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Hello, beautiful people. And welcome to our [music] humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this overreaction. Monday, happy 4:20. This program begins. now. SPORTS ARE THE GREATEST AND WE had a. fantastic weekend of playoff sports. The. NBA, kind of boring, but playoffs are. happening. The race to the ultimate. prize in basketball. >> Yes, that's right. Larry O'Brien. >> Larry O'Brien. There you go. Larry.
O'Brien. That's what everybody's looking. for. Started this weekend and Connor. will have a full breakdown. He watched. every single moment of every single. game, which we certainly appreciate. Then the NHL playoffs, they had a. massive weekend started between two old. giants deciding to just start and scrap. as soon as the puck is dropped. Obviously, you got Brady Tkachuk, USA, Team USA hero and leader and chirper on. the bench. And then you got Jordan Staal. there on the other side. Hey boys, you. want to start the playoffs with a fight? Yeah, [ __ ] it. Let's [ __ ] do it. Yeah.
>> [laughter]. >> Okay, for the good of the game. And then. THE BOYS THROW DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF. CAROLINA. OTTAWA. NOW, A COUPLE BIG. SHOTS WERE LANDED by both sides, but. that's how the NHL playoffs kind of. started and their entirety of the. weekend was electrifying. The NHL. playoffs are something that if you. watch, you're going to get captivated, you're going to get mesmerized. And. although the Flyers are going to get a. big time win over the Pittsburgh playing. once game two tonight in Pittsburgh, by. the way, you're going to see something. that's special, you're going to fall in. love and the games are going to be. exhilarating. Lot of NHL games, great. Lot of NBA games, kind of a little bit.
of a bummer, but nonetheless, we're in. playoff season, we're thankful for that. We got games tonight in the playoffs we. cannot wait to watch in the NHL and the. NBA. The toxic table's here at Boston, Connor, and at Ty Schmidt. Comment. incredible weekend of playoff action. >> Not there. Yeah, it was the best. I. mean, you mentioned it, the NHL start to. finish always delivers. The NBA, you. know, it's going to take a little bit. just to get into it when it comes to. competition wise, but that's why this is. fun. You get to kind of poop on all the. dumpy teams unless you are Evan Fox, the.
number one seed Pistons lose to the. Magic, which was an absolute joke. I. think it's the first time ever or maybe. the fourth time ever that it was a. wire-to-wire victory for an eighth seed. over a number one seed. But no, it was. fantastic. I mean, can't uh can't really. mention the weekend without mentioning. that neck brace though. I know it was. >> Rest in peace. a little a little tough. for you as well. >> No kidding. Yeah, it was a it was A IT. WAS QUITE A fake this weekend, you know, and uh. the thing that I didn't think was. possible.
was actually possible. Still don't know how. Randy Orton lost. Yeah. And doing so. try to break my neck. After my neck had. already been busted by Jelly Roll's big. ass, smaller than he was, big ass. crashing THROUGH COMMENTATORS DESK, JUST. FEET in front of Michael Cole and the. boys who are forced to watch us. Jelly. Roll and I have been the best friends. And then all of a sudden a couple weeks. ago he pops on the screen and starts he. says, "I'm going to check you. I'm going. to check you. I'm going to do this. I'm. going to do this." It's like, "Jelly, what are we doing? I was just here for.
the Grand Ole Opry when you went in. there. What are we talking about?" He. said, "Well, why'd you tell Randy to. attack me?" And then he said, "You know. what? This is for everybody." Two more. fingers BREAKS ME IN HALF. I BOUGHT THE CENTER. MY WHOLE BODY JUST. LOSES its senses. Cody Rhodes is. clapping. Obviously everybody thinks. he's a hero. He might be. He might be. This guy just might be. I don't know how he was able to get that. win over Randy Orton who's everything. perfect with professional wrestling. Cody Rhodes somehow hits the Crossroads. on Randy. You know why? Cuz Randy was a. little distracted.
Cuz Randy wanted to snap my neck in. half. I'm already IN A NECK BRACE. IN. THE BACK THE DOCTOR SAID, "YOU NEED TO. KEEP STABILITY IN YOUR NECK." I SAID, "WELL, I'M GOING TO GO REF JUST IN CASE. SOMETHING HAPPENS, you know, I'll be. ready." Charles Robinson goes down. RANDY ATTACKS ME. I MAYBE DIDN'T KNOW IT. WAS ME. YEAH, MAYBE. He could have been confused. Makes. sense. Felt like he knew. I don't know. There was a lot of. physicality in that match. Said. everybody. >> Yeah. >> Yep. First phone call after we decided. we had to save the business, I told him. kill everybody. That's what I told Jelly Roll. Jelly. Roll was like, "You told him to attack.
me." I said, "No, I told him kill. everybody." I didn't know you were. going to be sitting out there. He did. kill you. He killed me, too. >> Mhm. That's what happens when you dance with. a viper, the apex predator. Oh, I was. trying to do was motivate and inspire. I. was trying to tell him that for future. generations of wrestling, WE NEED YOU TO. GO AHEAD and get the strap, GET THE. TITLE, GET TO THE TOP of the card so. that everybody else CAN FOLLOW. SO, BAM! AND IT ENDS WITH THAT. PEOPLE ARE ASKING, I APPRECIATE CT scans. and C5. They got scans coming back. tomorrow morning. >> Good luck. Jeez. Could be anywhere in.
there. I'll tell you what, I've been. wearing this thing since I got. Jelly Roll. Yeah. I got Jelly Roll. >> Yeah, you did. That'll happen. >> I've been wearing this, just keep it. secure. They ran scans, I'll get it back. tomorrow morning. I'm very grateful and. hopeful that I'll be completely healthy, but there is some soreness, obviously. Got some cuts and bruises, too. Hand. right here cut. Well, I think that's cuz. the table exploded. >> I got some shrapnel. Somehow got a. splinter in my crotch. I think it's. because of what happened to the table. I. mean, there was a lot that happened out. there, and you know, I did want to let.
everybody know that I am okay, just in. case people were worried cuz I I did. seem lifeless there for a bit. >> And I heard a couple people and I said, "You know what? I got to let them know I. am very okay. Actually, this is how I. feel.". So, I would like to let everybody know. that although the mission. uh was supposed to be Randy Orton saving. the business, I think what happened. instead was uh. Cody Rhodes proved he is the one. And uh. That guy had his eye his eyeball. Oh, [ __ ] Boy, shut. This guy's face.
I think he got a. right to the right [clears throat] to. the thing, kind of cut him open, and. then I think there was a punt that. happened afterwards to go ahead and just. go ahead and swell up the whole side of. his face. Cody Rhodes was obviously very. admirable. Randy Orton is still. everything that I said he was. But, good news is Oh. business doesn't need to be saved after. all. And good for them. Mhm. And for me, I finished my story. Mhm. He did. Yeah. I came up in the Indies. Yeah, you did.
IWA East Coast. War pig. War pig, yeah. I went through development, NXT. Don't. Let's not forget trampoline. >> And your barn. I was a wrestler trained by Rip Rogers, same guy that trained everybody that's. retiring kind of currently. Don't forget. your trampoline. Trampoline league. >> OVW, trampoline growing up, always. champion, trampoline champion. Now that we really go through it, trampoline wrestling, indie wrestling, undefeated. >> State title in normal wrestling. I didn't I never [laughter] normal. wrestled. That's amateur wrestling, never did.
that. Uh you would be able to tell if I. did cuz I'd be looking for those. cauliflower ears immediately. I went. through developmental, went NXT. Yeah. Commentated and wrestled down there. Stupid Adam Cole. Bingo, had that. happen. >> Mhm. Get WWE, commentated, lucky to do. that, did pre-shows. Lucky to do that, wrestled, lucky to do that, ref'd. Yeah, yeah. >> managed. Yeah. Lucky to do that. It's been a hell of a run. Thank you, wrestling. >> [applause]. >> Congrats. >> Thank you, wrestling.
Hell of a run. Thank you, wrestling. >> all. It was an honor to be over there. And you know, maybe I took it too far. and tried to motivate my friends saying. the things I was saying. Yeah. Sometimes. when you're trying to motivate someone. >> [laughter]. >> That did feel good. I'm I might I must. say that. The neck was hurting every. step, obviously. >> Great posture. Great posture. >> Thank you, yeah. I had to hold it. together. And you know, a lot of people. said like what if I did count to three, would that have counted? I'm we'll never. know. Yeah, you were saying that, right? Yeah, yeah, the stripes on. We'll never. know. We'll never know. And I thought he.
was so out. He had. It was a tough day. Yeah. It was a tough day. >> Yeah. Then obviously it's WrestleMania in. Vegas. You kind of got to go experience that a. little bit. >> Got to. Mhm. Went and played some black. jack at some private tables in. bopped over to. Fountainbleau at LIV. 50 Cent was there. Oh, sick. >> And I'll tell you what, it was an. interesting time in life cuz it was like. I was back in the day, you know, cuz. used to go to a lot of clubs. I was back. in A Club and I was listening to in the. club with 50 Cent and I thought well.
time's full circle. This is a good way to go out of. wrestling. And uh. you can find me in that club and we had. a great time in there. Oh, yeah. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is. here. That was a trip back in time in. there. Oh, yeah. Big Mike taking care of. us. We appreciate Big Mike. I'll tell. you what, I learned a lot about Big Mike. post the evening that we had. But D-Von, what a time in there. Saw Cam'ron in. there. >> Yeah. Tony Yayo. >> What? UH MURDA. WHAT? 50, OBVIOUSLY. STILL GOT IT, BY THE WAY. All of them. Get Richer or Die Tryin'. No skips. All.
heaters. Best album of all time. Got a. chance to experience it and uh it was a. blast. I mean, we did a Vegas We did a. Vegas. It's been a while since since. I've been in a nightclub. >> Me, too. I inhaled some smoke at one point. I was. like. Oh, there it was. That's 21-year-old me. right there. Just Oh, it's actual smoke? Yeah, fog machine. We're at another. place here. I. still got his fastball, though. But I'm. glad, you know, you're an old school. dude, you know, didn't let didn't let.
the little bump slow you down, man. We. had a good time, great night. Obviously. rough night for you. Jelly Bubba, Randy, Cody. It was tough, man, but you powered. through. We had a great night. Mania. always brings it. Night two was awesome, as well. I enjoyed it. It sucks I saw. Sam put the picture out. So, it's. official. Yeah. You're out of the. business. I said it, man. That does. suck, but I will be watching. I'm I'm. I'm They might have got me back in. Yeah. I'll tell you, I was pretty. intrigued by a lot of the things that I. saw as well. Which is fascinating cuz couldn't tell. them. Okay? Yeah, good.
>> Sure. And they didn't want to talk to me, either. I'll tell you what, I think it. is a good time for me to leave the. business. >> Mhm. I I think it is I think right now. is probably a good time for me to head. out. >> [laughter]. >> I think that's probably a good decision. And I'll tell you what, there was a. couple people that said some rude. things. Omar, guy who runs SportsCenter. account. His name's on the SportsCenter. account. Even though SportsCenter is a. show with a lot of people, Omar runs the. SportsCenter Instagram account. Yeah, that's who I was talking to right there. >> Mhm. Had to do it. Omar is a slob. You. know, he he's sitting right there. That. was awesome. >> Anybody could have got it. I mean, there.
was a fat Cena on this side I gave it. to. There was a little kid called him. the ugliest kid in the building. That. was rude to me. He came back double. middle fingers right to my face. There. was some rude interactions out there and. I was probably the reason for them. Mhm. I was saying a lot of things, okay? I. was just trying to motivate my guy. That's all. People saying really mean. stuff right there. They're. They're telling me that I needed maybe. just be evicted from society. Oh, that's. just despicable. There was some of that. There was some of that. I'mma let. everybody know there was some of that.
But on that note, it was probably my. fault cuz as I was trying to motivate. Randy, all I wanted him to know is that. everything else was [ __ ] and he was the. king. It turns out the American. Nightmare still got the throne. Yeah. That guy's a real deal, brother. >> Yes, he he is. That cut. >> a warrant out for his arrest here. though? Like if he ever comes back to. Indy? For what he did here? Yeah. I. won't press any charges. Okay. That. whole thing's done. Respect. Water under. the bridge. All behind us. We might have. to. The wrestling business just kind of. rearview mirror. Mhm. And to the.
wrestling business, I'd like to say. thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. >> Well done. TAKE A BOW. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET SOME SPORTS. ONE. HALF OF THE HAMMER. DUH. COWBOYS AP. TOWN. WHAT DO WE. NEED TO BE looking at tonight and what. are the trends telling us about this. particular playoffs that maybe will make. me get a crown like I'm Cody Rhodes? >> So tonight we are back on the court and. the ice for both sports. NBA has three.
games tonight. There's not a spread. lower than six and a half points, I. believe. SO. >> THIS LEAGUE SUCKS. >> WHAT ARE YOU DOING, MAN? I THOUGHT I WAS. TOLD I WAS TOLD WHEN WE GET TO THE. PLAYOFFS GOOD GAME. FIRST ROUND. I TELL. YOU THAT WHAT WE WERE TOLD. >> WE DID WARN EVERYBODY, hey the first. round probably normally sometimes always. sucks as well. Uh it's just kind of how. the league goes, but over the weekend to. start the playoffs, the favorites were. six and two straight up and six and two. against the spread. Your losers. the Detroit Pistons Fraud. >> and the Houston Rockets. Those were the.
two teams that didn't do what they were. supposed to do. Obviously, the KD injury. threw a little bit of a wrench in there. That one was basically a pick'em at tip. So, really the Pistons really the ones. that screwed the pooch this weekend. there. >> Um and then when you go to the NHL side. of things. >> What happened? the Pistons were really the only. favorite to screw the pooch. >> didn't show up, Pat. We got jumped right. at the beginning of the game. The Magic. came out, got a lead, and anytime we. wanted to come back, we made it close. We had no chance and they hit a three. It was terrible. >> Okay, so the Detroit Pistons.
are the number one seed in the Eastern. Conference and we lost to the Orlando. Magic to the Heat. >> people say though? What's the word. people say? It rhymes with fraud, but. it's not fraud. Don't say it. >> I'm not saying it. >> EARLY TO SAY IT. >> FRAUD. >> NO. FRAUD. >> [screaming]. >> FRAUD. I FORGOT WHAT THE WORD WAS. IT. THAT WELL, THAT IS WHAT people would say. in this particular situation. It's one. game. >> It's one game. Why is everybody burying. a team for one game? And I'm only saying. that strictly cuz we're about to get. into the NHL and Thomas is going to. break down what happened. So, I would. like to be able to utilize this excuse. in about 35, 40 seconds or so whenever.
we get into the NHL conversation. But on. that. >> Uh you guys were supposed to be the ones. this year, like the actual This was the. year. And then all of a sudden, Orlando, who was in a play-in in uh two playing. games. >> Yeah. Yeah. Paolo Banchero was getting. run out of the building in Orlando. Now, he's leading the team to beat the hell. out of the number one seed. Is it Are. you guys done before this thing even. begins? And then I read a stat, 11. straight playoff losses. >> Yeah, that's a bad stat. Uh people are. saying that the Magic actually lost in.
the play-in game play-in game on purpose. so they didn't have to play the Celtics. so they could play us. I don't like that. one bit, but I will say this, Cade. Cunningham showed up, 39 points. No one. else on the team showed up. Tobias. Harris had 17. Every other player had. single digits. Jalen Duren, he's like. our all-pro center. He needs to step it. up here. And other than that, like. anytime we had a little bit of momentum. where we might come back, they would. just hit a three and they out-physicaled. us. Detroit teams cannot get. out-physicaled, so that was the story of. the game. >> Okay. Well, [laughter] hey, number one. seed will lose every once in a while.
You guys will get back in there. We'll. get back in there. I'm not worried about. that. We're a young team. That's what happens. >> Oh, cuz normally one seed wouldn't be a. young team, you know, normally they'd be. pretty comfortable with the moment. Now. you guys get to the big dance and all of. a sudden your dancing shoes are. disappearing. Amen. That's not good. >> Not good at all. Well, people also. I heard Cade Is Cade playing? Cade 39. points. He was the only one who showed. up. Oh, [ __ ] I love Cade. So, you guys stink as a team. What's Cade What for 39? >> Cade went for 39, Tobias 17, everyone.
else single digits. The other guys need. to step up. Jalen Duren, our center, got. out-physicaled last night. That can't. happen. He will bounce back. I trust. these guys. I trust the coach. They'll. be okay. >> I like the way you said out-physicaled. instead of what you wanted to say. You. know what I think everybody else was. saying. I I don't like that cuz just remember. that all these guys, okay? People need. to remember this on the internet. and at WrestleMania maybe if they're. sitting in front row. All these guys can snatch you by your. necks. >> Oh, yeah. Seriously. And lift you up. like a movie. And do one of these if they wanted to. We got to remember that.
>> But they're not here right now. No, they're not. >> And he stunk. >> And people are saying. >> [laughter]. >> that the Detroit Pistons are a BUNCH OF. FRAUD. >> [screaming]. >> YOU WANT TO SAY IT? YOU GUYS WANTED TO. SAY IT AGAIN? I'M not saying They wanted. to say it. They didn't know what we were. going to say, so I just You yelled into. the mic there. You can say it. Okay, NHL. playoffs obviously happened this. weekend. Four and three straight up with. the favorites. Con man, I heard the NHL. playoffs were electrifying while we were. doing WrestleMania. >> Yeah, fantastic you mentioned the game. sevens. It started with a throw down. fight. It was the first game to kick off. the entire playoffs and it was.
wonderful. Brady Tkachuk, Jordan Staal. basically just throwing bombs. This is. what hockey's all about. talk about the. moments that playoffs have. This is. going to be one of them when we look. back on it once this thing is said and. done like, "Hey, yep, someone's hoisting. the cup. How did this thing start?". Boom, with fists flying. After this, it. was pretty much a tame game, simple. two-nothing beatdown. Logan Stankoven do. the stanky leg. He scored the first. goal, and that was all she wrote in that. one. The next game, unfortunately for.
you, was Flyers-Pens. Uh, Flyers-Pens, I mean, hey, it it was a. good game. It's a rivalry game. This. thing's going seven no matter what, so I. wouldn't be too too upset, but yeah, third period 1-1 game, and Flyers just. kind of ran away. They they scored two. goals. Uh, Rusty actually put one in. before it was all said and done for the. Pens, but that one right there was kind. of your game winner. Flyers march into. Pittsburgh, and uh, you are. unfortunately one game closer to.
possibly wearing a suit with that bet. with the uh, with the governor. Yeah. I. saw a lot of um, I saw a lot of people. talking about stats about if you win the. first one of a seven-game series, what's. the likelihood of you winning the entire. thing. Just look at the Flyers'. likeliness to uh, win the cup. Uh-huh. And then let's look at those stats, and. then let's look at Sidney Crosby's stats. in that entire tonight, game two in. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Sidney Crosby. and the boys will attempt to get back. into a series. You go 0-2 in the Philly.
Ooh. Don't want that. You're dead. That's not. happening. If that happens, you're dead. >> It's not happening. Hey, what team is. Sidney Crosby on? Not the team that would ever go 0-2 in. the Philly. >> Big no. I hope not. It's preposterous for me to even think. about that. >> Are people calling you guys. >> No. THEY'RE NOT CALLING. >> FRAUDS. NO. FRAUDS. YOU PIGS. THAT'S. WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING. NO. LET'S GET. AWAY FROM ALL OF IT. Let's uh, let's go. to the NFL, please. Can we go to the. NFL? >> Hell yeah. >> Please, we go to the NFL. Massive things.
happened this weekend, a huge trade. Dexter Lawrence leaves the Giants and. heads to the Cincinnati Bengals. >> What? Joining us now is a man who might tell. us how the hell that all went down, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam. Schefter. Schefter, C2 through C5, I'm getting the. scans back in the morning. You can tweet. it. You're welcome. Now, let's talk a. little bit about the NFL. Dexter. Lawrence, he's a member of the. Cincinnati Bengals. I had no idea that. the Bengals did this. I had no idea that. they would trade the number 10 overall. pick. I had no idea that they worked an.
extension for $28 million. He'd be up. He's through 2028 with the Bengals now. with an outsider. How did this come. together? This is a gigantic move, I. think, for the team in Cincy. Well, what I would say here, Pat, is. that it had been brewing for a couple of. weeks, and the Giants and Bengals have. been talking really for the last week. And the Bengals were willing to offer. the 10th overall pick in this draft. The. Giants wanted more. They went back and. forth, and I think it became apparent to. the Giants that they weren't going to.
get more than the 10th overall pick. And. ultimately, they felt like it was in. their best interest to go ahead and make. that deal. They pulled the trigger on. that deal on Saturday night. They get. back the 10th overall pick. And this. really, to me, is interesting on so many. levels because now. the Giants have two of the top 10 picks. in this draft. The two New York teams. have 25%. of the top 16 picks in this draft. And. the Giants here are going to be able to. get two real difference-makers for John.
Harbaugh in his first year as the head. coach. From the Bengals standpoint, massive season ahead for Cincinnati. Huge year for Joe Burrow. And the. Bengals know that they have to win. for Joe Burrow, and they have to win. now. So, they figure that the player. that gives them the best chance to have. the best season this upcoming season, a. critical year, is not any player they could take at 10, but rather Dexter Lawrence. And. obviously they've gone through the mocks.
to project who they might or might not. get. It's not a deep draft at the. defensive tackle position to begin with. And so the Bengals figured that this is. their best way to use that pick and they. make the trade. First time in franchise. history that they've ever traded a top. 10 pick for a player, which obviously is. enormous. >> I love that. Shout out to Cincinnati. trying to work on something that they. have fundamental issue with, which is. defense as well. Obviously whenever they. pay T and Jamar and they have Joey,
everybody's like, "Yeah, we get it. You're going to be able to score. points." Will you ever be able to win an. NFL game when it matters though if you. don't have a defense? They obviously. make some moves. Interesting with Trey. Hendrickson situation over the last. couple years. He's on the way out. Dexter Lawrence obviously interior. defense alignment. Hampus sent over his. stat. Bengals D-tackles ranks since. 2021. In sacks, 41.5, that's 28th in the. NFL. Uh 53 tackles for loss, that's. 29th. 249 pressures, that's 20th. That's. all since Geno Atkins retired. So in the.
middle of that D-line they have had a. lot of problems and obviously Jonathan. Allen comes in and also sexy Dexy. They're trying to fix that thing. immediately. And in the AFC North, if. you got a good front, you can win. You. have to have a good front to win. So I. like that they're investing there. Congrats to them. Let's talk about a. front. Trent Williams gets a 2-year $50. million deal. Is that what I heard? 2-year 100, what is the 2-year $50. million extension? They were not going. to let him out of the building, we would. assume, and the San Francisco 49ers.
always having to make things happen for. their players. Now this deal had been at. the finish line for about 2 weeks now. And within the 49ers building they. thought every day was the day it was. getting done. And today the agent. obviously announced that it was done. But it they've been at this spot going. over some language here for about 2. weeks. There was never a doubt that this. deal wasn't getting done. The 49ers. obviously have put a huge priority on. Trent Williams. You see what he's. accomplished, you see what the team has. done this offseason in terms of adding.
Mike Evans and Christian Kirk and. bringing back Drake Greenlaw and now. obviously retaining Trent Williams on a. 2-year deal that includes $37 million. guaranteed. This is obviously a huge move ahead of. the draft on Thursday night. The 49ers. are sitting there in the first round. later on. We'll see whether or not they. stay there, they may not. But it's a. situation where now if you draft an. offensive tackle, if you draft an. offensive tackle, you don't have to rush. him along. You've got Trent Williams and.
the feeling in the organization had been. look, we want this guy, this deal is. going to get done and the agent. announced that it was done this morning. Uh Trent Williams obviously a monster. fantastic football player. First ballot. Hall of Famer, we think. >> Yeah. Yeah. We hope we think. We don't. know what a first ballot Hall of Famer. looks like anymore for professional. football, but we think he would. definitely be a first ballot Hall of. Famer if all the voters are doing their. thing. So fast, so nimble, so. experienced. Now can the Niners win a. Super Bowl out there? Can they do it? They've had to deal with.
all the issues of a team that has won. the Super Bowl. All their star players. go from not making all the money to. making all the money. They've had to. gone through different iterations. They. obviously find their quarterback. They've had to pay the quarterback a lot. of money. It's fascinating the kind of. story this Niners team has been on. Now. they need to win a Super Bowl. I'm. excited to see if they can stay healthy. and do that. Let's continue the trade. conversation and business conversation. of the NFL before we move to the draft. Go ahead, Con Man. >> Yeah, Shefty, big news out of you this. morning. AJ Brown is now likely to be.
traded to New England. I know a lot of. people thought that might happen then. didn't think it would happen, but you. putting this tweet out was huge news. just for people to really believe it. now. What is kind of this status? Is this. just something that, you know, both. teams are in agreement, June 1st will. come, he'll get traded and what do you. see kind of the compensation to be to. will it be a first-round pick? Will it. be, you know, a second and a third? What. is kind of the next steps here for A.J. Brown to be a New England Patriot? Well,
there is no agreement on the deal right. now, but I think that both sides expect. that eventually, once they talk closer. to deadline, that they will be able to. work out an agreement. New England wants. him, Philly is open to trading him, and. I think in the end he will get traded. My guess is it'll involve a future one. at some point in time. I don't know that. it'll be '27 or '28. The two sides still. have to figure that out and see where. they wind up, but I think the Eagles had. been looking for a first-round pick at.
least for A.J. Brown, and I think they. felt like they could get it and still. feel like they can get it in the end. So, my guess is that trade will include. a first-round pick in the end when the. two sides wind up agreeing to whatever. deal they come up with. There's not. another team out there that I can see. other than New England. where A.J. Brown's going to wind up. And. the news this week would be that they're. not going to be doing this deal. before or during the draft because. obviously, as we've talked about, the.
cap ramifications are such that New. England would have to take on too much. money to trade A.J. Brown before June. 1st. So, they're going to wait till June. 1st. Hold on, Shep. Am I Do I have Mandela effect here? Haven't we. just post-June 1 designated things a lot. in the history of the NFL? Why does this. one seem so like, "Hey, got to wait till. it's summer." Like legitimately, why why. cuz haven't we done this in the past. where we've just said, "Hey, this is. this, and we're doing it June 1st or.
June 2nd"? That's that's for a player. being released. You can't designate a. trade as a June 1st trade. And so, there's a big difference there, and obviously, like it'll involve picks, but I'm not expecting that trade clearly. to involve picks in this draft. It's not. like. New England's going to be picking for. Philadelphia. They don't have the. agreement in place yet. So, they'll come. to an agreement at some point here right. around June 1st. And at that point time, A.J. Brown will be allowed to go to New.
England, but it it this the rules of. releasing a player don't work the same. way that they do with trading a player. Got it. Okay, so thank you for the. clarification there. And I like the fact. that they're all just like, "Hey, we'll. figure late late May. We'll figure this. out. A.J., just hang tight, okay? We got to. do this. You know the way this entire. thing is, we got to wait till May. Draft, obviously gigantic. There's been. some big conversations about things. should be designated before the draft. even begins especially in the host city. Diggs has a question for you, Schefty.
>> Yeah, I do, Schefty. Reports coming out. today that the looks like they're. Steelers are not going to hear from. Aaron Rodgers about whether he wants to. play next year in the before the draft. >> Who said that? Uh I believe I saw. Pelissero report that. >> Yeah, Pelissero and Rapoport, which is. Schefter's peer. We've been seeing you. sharing each other's [ __ ] by the way, you guys. >> you know, it felt like we were going to. get an answer before the draft or at. least that's what the rumors were and. we're they're talking every day and now. well, how is going to be QB1 during. OTAs? What's the latest on Mr. Rodgers?
Well, it's exactly what we've talked. about where they have essentially said. that they thought initially it would be. about a 30-day window before they got an. answer from Aaron Rodgers. That 30-day. window came and went. Then they were. hoping that they would get an answer. before free agency. That obviously came. and went. Then they were hoping to get a. answer before the draft and obviously. that feels like now it's going to come. and go without answer from Aaron. Rodgers. And obviously the question will. linger out there Is there a reality to. deadlines, though? Is this just them.
publicly saying, "Yeah, 30 days.". Like are they talking there and about. like what where do we know where the. whole thing is? Like how how is this. become our expectation? Because we as. people who have dealt with Aaron. Rodgers, okay? Not as much as maybe some folks who are. with them every single day if they're a. team and everything like that, but we. have obviously been there. Does Aaron. know? Like whenever you they come out. and say, "Hey, this is a 30-day thing.". Was he informed of that or because. there's a chance he's literally off the. grid somewhere and has no idea that Now,
I'm not saying that's the actuality, but. I'm just saying this dude is not like. the others, okay? This guy and people. are like, "No, he's not." Blah blah. blah. It's like there's a reason he's. allowed to be the way he is though is. cuz of how damn good he is at football. and has been. You ask any player and any. coach, they say Aaron Rodgers is that. guy. Now, on that note, does Aaron know. the Steelers want him as quarterback? Has that like how Is he looking at a. contract every day? Yeah, how much do we. know? Like what do we know about that. entire stuff, Schefty? Do you know. anything? Yeah, here's what I do know. I know that. some people.
had suggested that well, maybe it's not. done because money is an issue. And I. just was told that money's not an issue. here. The contract's not the hold up. It's just Aaron taking time. >> Contract. doing what he does and and and operating. on his own time schedule, whatever that. is. When he feels like he's ready to. give an answer for whatever reason. Uh you know, I think there's there's. probably like again, I think it's always. dangerous to speak for him. I don't want. to do that, but this is going to linger. for a little bit it seems like. Okay, so. contract you said there. So, that's.
already the business. What's that? Contract's not an issue. So, the. business this is already been figured. out between the Steelers and Aaron. I don't know if it's been figured out, but I was told the contract won't be an. issue. I think cuz Aaron whenever he was on. with us, we haven't heard anything from. Aaron's camp, right? Has anybody heard. anything from Aaron? >> No. Since the time he was on with us, he. said I don't have like a contract offer. Like right in that how he explained it? >> Correct. Yeah, he said he hasn't. received any sort of contract offer yet. When was that? That was in A month ago. What Yeah, about a month ago. Post. Olympics, yeah. So, I wonder if that has. that changed? Do we know? Do we know if.
that's changed cuz I just I'm asking I. was told that it could this be. contractual related and I was and I was. I was told no that's not the case at. all. I'll tell you what, we've been down. this road a couple times before. Until it comes Yeah. The 30-day thing is laughable. Someone. who said okay we need your answer in 30. days like. what are we doing? You you know that. that's not happening. Okay? So all. >> The draft though I think is a reasonable. expectation. >> I agree. Like I think their draft is a. reasonable expectation especially with. 12 picks and every this is new era but. still trying to go for it there. It's.
like I think that's a reasonable. expectation. I just wonder behind the. scenes cuz what we've heard from Aaron. is that he does I don't even have a we. don't even have like a thing is what he. said a month ago or whatever. If he. hasn't said anything or hasn't come out. publicly from him we are going to not. assume anything. Smart. >> Right. Okay, we are not going to assume. anything. >> Can't. Cuz he will get his messaging. out. Certainly. Mhm. We know that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay, we we definitely and. you know that. [laughter]. Yeah, you know that more than anybody. So I think the draft is reasonable. But. also there's a lot of things that have.
to go into that I guess that decision to. be made. Good luck out there Steelers. fans. >> Just pick one. Good luck out there. Steelers fans. That's kind of what it. is. Let's continue to talk about the. draft which is going to be spectacular. this Thursday night round one. Obviously. on ABC, ESPN, NFL Network will be live. YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, TikTok. and uh. anywhere else that we missed? X live. maybe. >> We'll be all over there. We cannot wait. Coach Cowher will be joining us. AQ. Shipley will be joining us whenever the. big guys get drafted which could be a.
thing but obviously there are some big. names that are starting to cook up for. this particular draft and now rumors. always this time of year interesting. Go. ahead D-Butt. Absolutely a quarterback. who will definitely be in Pittsburgh, Ty. Simpson. I just want to know your. thoughts on him and does that mean he's. basically confirmed to be a first. rounder? And then wide receiver Jordan. Addison heard he had a great pro day. Is. he pretty much locked in to be the top. receiver off the board based on what. you're hearing? I don't know if he's going to be the top. receiver but he's going to be a top. pick. Him and Carnell Tate, I think will.
probably be the first two wide receivers. selected. I would think that both have a. realistic chance to go within the top. 10, 12 picks of the draft. Both will be. off the board pretty quickly here. Uh. those two guys, Tate and Tyson. You see. the moves that Tyson made on Friday. The. Giants spent a lot of time with him. It. certainly feels like the Giants have a. high level of interest in Jordan Addison. attending their his workout and having. dinner with him and doing all those. things, all the legwork on Jordan. Addison. Tate obviously is still going. to be a very high pick. Those will be.
the top two receivers. Um. What was the initial question? Do you. have any other. >> Tye Simpson. Tye Simpson. Hey, on that. note, just to wrap up your last thought. about the wide receivers. Uh Tate is. currently minus 200 to be the first wide. receiver taken uh on Thursday night on. DraftKings currently. That's That's. That'd be my guess that he would go, but. I think there's enough Tyson love that. it wouldn't shock me if Tyson went, but. I if I had a bet today, I would say. I feel better about Ty uh Tate going. ahead of Tyson. But by the way, the.
Giants The Giants could go Tyson at. five. They could do that. They could do. that. >> It's all fluid, it sounds like with this. particular draft. And on that note, Tye. Simpson now, Schefter. Yeah. So, Tye. Simpson, I think there are two teams that stand. You see that the odd the the the the. oddsmakers are right here. The Cardinals. and Jets are the two teams. Now, the. Rams, if the Rams had had pick 29, which they. traded to the Chiefs for Trent McDuffie, the Rams would have given him serious.
consideration right then and there at. 29. And I'm not going to say that they still. couldn't take him at 13. My guess would be no, but you don't know. how the board's going to fall. And so to me, the odds come back to the. Cardinals and the Jets. Now, the Jets. have the first pick in the second round. on. Friday night, pick 33. The Cardinals are. 34. And you know what's fascinating. about that. is that. if we go back to the last week of the.
season, the Raiders kicker, Daniel. Carlson, made a 60-yard field goal. against the Chiefs at Allegiant Stadium, career-long 60-yard field goal that gave. the Raiders the win that knocked them. out of the top slot at the other rounds. of the draft. They kept the first. overall pick, but they would have had. the first pick on. Friday night, and because of that kick, now they don't. The Jets do. So, the. Jets. >> What? are in position to go get Tyree. Wilson if he's there. I think the.
Cardinals absolutely could come up to. board, and the Cardinals are listening. or at least taking calls on pick number. three. So, I think those calls are expected to. pick up this week. We'll see whether. Arizona stays at three or whether they. move out. What's the matter, Pat? Your. neck bothering you? What's the matter? I. said, "What are Well, if you get my. scans before I do, which I know you've. done before, okay? Let me know, okay? Cuz I would like to get rid of this, but. you I got him. I've learned my lesson. there. I've I got him, okay? Hey, we've. all we all have our trials and. tribulations publicly, okay? We we all.
we all have that. But on that note, you. just kind of blew my mind there, which. did kind of whiplash my neck, which is. obviously C2-C5 kind of thing happening. because remember Crossroads commentator. table Yeah. 80-yard sprint, RKO. You. said the Raiders don't have the first. pick in the second draft second round. What? So, what? How is that So, how do they get. number one overall? I thought that was a. big deal. It it was it was done on strength of. schedule. So, they had the best strength. of schedule, like the or the worst,
whichever you want to look at it, they. got the number one pick. Now, the. Raiders, Jets, Cardinals, and Titans all. had the same record. So, they rotated. because it on strength of schedule. So, the Jets pick top of round two, Cardinals pick top of round three, Titans pick top of round four, the. Raiders I believe traded the pick at the. top of round five, and it goes like. that. Rotating. If Carlson had missed. that field goal Worse right. topping every round. >> Okay. Holy [ __ ] I feel like I'm.
learning a lot of things right now. The. post-June 1 designation. I thought to. myself as he was explaining that, idiot. You again, we talk about this every. office. >> [laughter]. >> That's what I was saying. Now you're. talking about this and I'm idiot. We do. a draft spectacular where all we do is. commit all of our time towards the. draft. For some reason it is one of our. biggest shows every year and we are very. grateful to everybody that watches. We. should have known that. >> the draft. I got. >> [laughter]. >> We got Oh, by the way, ESPN. I'm making Or maybe it's the NFL. Who.
Who made the graphic? I think it was. Schefter, wasn't it? Oh, I don't know if. he made it, but he was the one that. tweeted it. Somebody announced when they. announced that I'm doing pick second. round and third round picks for the. Colts on Friday night or whatever and. back, excited to do it, honored to be a. part of it. They put Pat McAfee. undrafted. It's like You kidding me? Can't be doing that. Pick 222. Got the. car You don't know anything. Hey Pat, Pat, do you have an idea of what you're. going to say when you get up there or. are you just going to wing it? When? On Friday night. Friday night, brother. We got an event on Wednesday. We got. this show here. We got a [ __ ] first.
round of draft spectacular on Thursday. He's still waiting for his scans, Shefty. >> Yeah, I don't even know if I see two or. see five. >> Pens-Flyers tonight, Shefty. >> got Pens-Flyers game tonight. What are. you talking about, Shefty? But yes, I. have an idea of what I'm going to say. cuz I don't know if you saw this, I'd. like you to be a little bit more. efficient on your reporting on the. Indianapolis Colts happenings. Do you. have the video of Daniel Jones arriving. at the facility today? On the Colts. Twitter, I do believe, it is what it. was. You should see THIS GUY'S GAIT. OH! WE'RE PEACOCKING IN THERE. And after.
what I just saw Tatum do and what we. know Daniel Jones was able to do with. his ACL, I mean. yeah. Yeah, I'm thinking the broken leg on one. side, torn Achilles on the other is just. fine. Okay, I'm thinking we're going to. be A-OK. It's quarterback position. Look. at that walk. Look at that walk. Shefty, look at that walk. My quarterback. Uh-huh. You know what. You know what doesn't look good for. April 20th? Agreed, 4/20. Happy 4/20 to. you, Shefty, you little stoner. Have a. Have a I hope you have an incredible day. today. Uh Alec Pierce, he's out. What?
>> Wait, what? Sorry, what? What happened? Didn't he just get a hundred million. dollars? What do you mean out? >> He got the biggest in the history. >> Yeah, and he's done already? Well, Alec. Pierce signed a four-year hundred. fourteen million dollar contract this. off season and underwent an ankle. procedure that will sideline him for. roughly three months. >> That's a long time. Three months? Where were you ON THAT ONE, SHEFTY? >> [laughter]. >> HEY. HEY, he was your guest at the top. of the show. HOW DID YOU MISS IT? >> WHERE WERE YOU ON THIS ONE, SHEFTY? HUH?
WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK HIM ABOUT IT? Why. didn't YOU ASK HIM ABOUT I DIDN'T KNOW. [screaming] I WAS SUPPOSED TO ASK ABOUT. ANYTHING. I I DON'T KNOW WHERE A-OK. WE. JUST GOT A HUNDRED FOURTEEN [ __ ]. MILLION DOLLARS. PAT, WHAT [laughter]. THE HELL? PAT, HE OPENED THE FREE AGENT. EXTRAVAGANZA ON THE PAT MCAFEE SHOW. >> AGENCY FRENZY. IT IT IT IT. IT WAS A SPECTACULAR DRAFT. FREE AGENCY. IS A FRENZY, and this is chaotic to. think about that Alec Pierce just had a. big three months. He's out. Twelve. weeks. What are we doing? Come on. Anything else about the Colts. that we need to know? Anything else?
>> That's a long time. Yep. Anthony. Richardson's not there today. Kenny Moore's not there today. Both. players have officially requested. trades. Colts are so bad, man. >> Anthony Richardson, good luck out there. We think. Uh if you find your full potential. somewhere, we will be happy. I was I was. a believer towards the end. I had, you. know, cuz his upside is crazy. Good. luck. Seemingly very unlucky. Kenny. Moore leaving. Don't love that. >> that. Don't love Kenny Moore leaving at. all. This dude's an incredible football. player.
He showed up. Now, granted, I think. there was some injuries, maybe? Uh yeah, he blew banged up. He He played. >> hits. When. >> he's in the middle of it, there's going. to be a little bit of that. I think. everybody understands that. >> Physicality. >> He's great, but Zaire, okay, he gets. traded to Green Bay. He made what, 1/3. of our tackles? >> Yep. I think he was in on every single. tackle. Okay, he and I obviously had a. happenstance that took place, but he was. [ __ ] every single tackle. Felt like. he was in there everywhere. >> Pittman. Yep, Pittman and I. Michael Pittman, as. we love Pittman. >> Pittman. So, we're going through a team. transition as if we were like the.
Niners. Yeah, Patriots. At least you got. a new GM, new coach. >> a negative right now, Pat. Go back TO GO. BACK TO DANIEL JONES, walking in, looking cool, we'll be in a good spot, all right? >> Let's hope that for Friday, too. Let's. Can Can we get you announcing a guy with. the name Dan Jones or John Smith? And. maybe they give you the correct phonetic. spelling. [laughter]. Yeah, the Okoriki thing really came back. to get me in a bad way. His name's. Okereke. But what did they tell you? Okoriki.
Spelled it out there for me. I'm excited to get back there, side. stage. But last time I did the draft. pick, Roger Goodell looked at me and. said, "This is what you're wearing?". It's right, bro. You got a rough Wait. Wait till he sees the neck brace on. Friday. >> [laughter]. >> We hope not. Yeah, I mean, we hope. there's no actual Yeah, okay, let's talk. How long is the brace staying on? Huh? How long is the brace staying on? I. mean, if he's got a broken neck. 18 months? Get my scans back tomorrow. morning, I should know. C2-C5. C2-C5 is. where they're looking. Most important.
one. >> Got a closer eye on C2 through C5. I. told him I felt pretty good because. whenever, you know, when Cam'ron came up there and the whole. place started vibing, Uncle Murda was. doing a full bang, Tony Yayo, bucket cap. on, looked so cool, and 50 Cent just. straps in. It was hard not to start. bopping a little bit, you know, there. was a lot of this GOING ON. BECAUSE. BANG! WHEN JELLY ROLL Jelly Rolls you, I. mean, your body loses hope. >> I don't think I've seen a table explode. like that. Yeah, I got I literally got I. got shards of wood all over my entire.
body. It was a long weekend. Okay, last. question here about the draft. Hopefully. though, you won't see this after I get. scans back tomorrow. But once again, if. you get scans early, I would like to. sign a thing that says you can break the. hippo law thing. Ty has last question for you about the. draft. >> Shifty, Brett Veach said that he expects. a lot of trades to happen on Thursday. night, so he was excited for fans. But. from what information is out there, it. seems like most of the teams we hear. from are interested in trading back.
Where do you think this is going to end. up? Like do you think we're going to see. more trades than normal? Or, you know, kind of right on line with what we've. had the last couple of years? Yeah, I think that when you look at the. last 2 years, there were five trades on. draft night in each of the past 2 years. I mean, we might get the same number. this year. I'm not looking for any earth-shattering. moves. I'm looking for some moves where. teams maybe jump up a few spots. We'll. see how it goes. Like sometimes a player.
may fall into a spot like one of the two. pass rushers could slide, depending on. how the draft goes, to number five or. six. So, is there a team out there. that's willing to jump up there and. offer enough to make it happen? One of. the pass rushers, is one of the teams. willing to go back? I I think there's. always I I I think we may get a team. jumping up for Tyree Simpson uh in the. back of [clears throat] round one, the. way that the Giants went up last year to. 25 for Jackson Dart. That could happen. Um.
but I'm not looking for more than the. five that we got the last 2 years. I. think that would be surprising, but. it's a strange draft in that regard. >> Okay, I can't wait to see it. We've. gotten a lot of different reports from. different source says from around the. league on how they view kind of who's. where, and it feels like it is a real. crap shoot coming on Thursday night. after about 12:13. Like it feels like. there's a real crap shoot. So, if one. team likes somebody very much and. they're falling, you could see a move. up. At the tail end of something you. might see some teams that like a lot of.
guys and they're like, "All right, we'll. get out of here. We don't need to be. spending a first round on any of this. type of stuff. Let's go to the second. round." I think there is going to be. some action late. I think that from my. understanding, from our conversations. around the league, I think there's going. to be some action late and I think it's. it's not going to be devastating. Like. it's not going to be like a gigantic. move, but it's going to be a lot of. repositioning. I think there's a chance. that's at at. I was saying it. There are a lot of. teams. There are a lot of teams that want to. move back. There are not as many teams. right now that want to move up, but.
the draft hasn't started and there's. certain guys that haven't fallen into a. certain spot to make those teams want to. come up yet yet in advance, but that. could very well happen Thursday night. All right, we appreciate the hell out of. you, brother. You're the man. Ladies and. gentlemen, that's Adam Schefter. Yeah, Schefter. I think like uh. I think the tail end of that thing's. going to be some action. >> Oh, yeah. From our conversations. Okay, this is me trying to do some. journalism. Mhm. As. we will guide a 5-hour show. Well, maybe.
shorter, we'll see. But I think there's going to be a lot of. moves, so I think that's going to reset. the clock. And all these kind of moves a. little bit. >> And and I think a lot of it is like. position-based. Like there's seven. offensive tackles who are supposed to be. the best seven of the draft before that. drops off. If those seven are starting. to go in the teens to early 20s, then if. a team in the later half wants to come. up, they're going to have to do that. because it falls off until guys are. going to be taken like in the third. round. Ratings are going to be. outrageous for this. We're so incredibly. lucky that we're a part of it. A man who.
was part of the mastermind of creating. it all. Former number two at the NFL. I believe. the actual title was Chief Media and. Business Officer. Okay, so that's CMO. and CBO, I do believe, for the NFL. Was. there for over 20 years. Uh. absolute stallion. of a suit. >> Oh, yeah. Like an actual absolute. stallion of a suit. Now he's the CEO of. the PGA Tour, ladies and gentlemen, Brian Rolapp. >> Yeah. Hey. How are you, Pat? Good to see you. Great.
to see you as well. Some would say. you're a super suit, and I would say. that the PGA Tour made the right No suit. on. Yeah, no suit on. I understand. I. Yeah, it's casual. You got to do it. We're in the middle of the season right. now. We got 22 more events. Okay, we got. another major coming May 14th with the. PGA Championship. Obviously, you're in. work mode right now, but I think the PGA. made the right decision. We would like. to let you know that from the NFL. Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you. No problem. >> Feels good. Okay, so whenever you go. over there, obviously, everybody assumes. that your experience from the NFL will. help the PGA kind of grow and blossom.
Masters numbers up and to the right. We. assume golf will continue to be that. way, especially with the news that's. happening abroad. We'll dive into that. But, what do you think you bring from. the NFL in the growth that you oversaw. and saw happen with that league from a. broadcast standpoint that you can take. to the PGA? Like, how much have you been. relying on your information from the. NFL? Well, a a lot. Um, golf is not football. Like, you know, professional golf is not. professional football, but I will tell. you there are things I learned at the.
NFL and helped do at the NFL that I. think can make professional golf better, which is why I took the job. Um, one. thing we were we were just adamant about. at the NFL is never sitting still and. innovating. Um, and then second, make. sure the product is really good. What. you watch on a Sunday, make sure it's. competitively good. Make sure the rules. are right. Don't be afraid to change. rules to make it better. And I think. that's what we're doing here. I think, you know, we're spending most of our. time with a group of players and some.
outside people trying to figure out how. we make the PGA Tour product better. Um, and we've got a lot of work to do, but I think come this June, we're going. to unveil quite a bit, and I think it's. going to make not only golf fans happy, but it's going to make sports fans happy. because this sport is growing like. crazy, and we just want them to connect. a little bit more with the PGA Tour. Yeah, golf is a phenomenal sport. I did. not play it as a child that much, but. obviously I've gotten into it as I grew. older. It's the perfect thing to have on. the TV during the weekend, especially. now with a daughter. I think people love.
the sport. Obviously a lot of business. and everything like that. There's a lot. of people worried about the sport. Okay, for whenever LIV came into the scene. There was a lot of worry about what the. future was. I not golf purist. I wish I. was. That'd be great. I'd probably be a. much better golfer if I was golf purist. But I'm just kind of outside looking in. We all learned a lot about the PGA, I. think, and how it operated. Then we. watched the super duper swing show on. Netflix. And it's like the schedule. these guys have is insane. And then. there's no guaranteed money. I think. there was a lot of things that we kind. of learned about the PGA Tour through.
the LIV, but a lot of people thought it. was going to divide golf. Now, golf has. obviously survived. PGA Tour has. obviously thrived. And the future. conversations about LIV are what they. are right now, very, very loudly. How do. you feel about how PGA has evolved since. LIV started? And what is kind of the. vision for you as you go forward with. whatever happens with the competition, if that makes sense? Yeah, no, it makes sense. Look, I I. think. um. I think LIV did. what. the AFL did for the NFL years ago.
Maybe what the USFL did for the NFL. years ago. It's basically competition. can make it better. And I think what Whenever you get. competition, you end up figuring out. what you do well, what you don't do. well. And I think that's what LIV did. was expose some things that maybe the. PGA Tour could do better. How we can. make it better for fans, how we can make. it better for professional golfers, how. we can make it better for our television. partners. And that's a good thing. And I. think the changes that the Tour has made.
before I got here, the changes we're. doing now, I think shows that when you. do those things, fans go to where the. best product is, and where the best. golfers are, and where the best athletes. are. And I think that's really, really. important. So, in a lot of ways, I think. LIV did the professional golf world a. favor in a in a lot of ways. And so, but. going But again, I spend most my time. now thinking about the PGA Tour and how. we do these things better. Um and so, I think the future's really. bright for us and I think it's bright. for professional golf.
>> I think the PGA Tour got to showcase how. much better it is, too, through the. years. I you know, we learned a lot. about the PGA Tour, but then we also. learned about a lot of the things the. PGA Tour has done very well over. as we turn over and look at something uh. with. a money pot happening with DJ Khaled in. the back screaming, which I love we the. best as somebody's trying to win a. tournament. There was like some things. obviously flawed, but I think it was a. showcase of what the PGA Tour was. Now, a lot of the boys on the PGA Tour roster. took a lot of pride in the fact that. they've represented the PGA Tour. You're.
going to about to go through a process. here where I assume the PGA Tour is only. going to get bigger and bigger and. bigger. How is your relationship with. the golfers? I know that you said you. have a lot of meetings with them as you. try to evolve the sport, but what is. your relationship like with the golfers. and how is it supposed to be, you think? Well, it's it's pretty good. You. mentioned First thing when I got the. job, and something that maybe some people. thought was crazy, but I thought it was. a good idea was I was going to meet with. as many of the PGA Tour members as I. can. And I think I'm up to 85 or.
something like that. And And these. aren't short meetings. I've spent. anywhere from an hour to an hour and a. half with them. And I've learned a ton. But I think. they're smart, they're driven, they know. what they want. And I've learned a lot talking to them. They've given me a lot of good advice. Um so, I think I think that's that's. that's really important. But also, I. think it's important to remember the PGA. Tour is different than most professional. sports. Um.
when LIV came along and and the PGA Tour. has started. started doing things some things. differently. One thing they did was. essentially create a situation in a. league where the players actually own. part of the tour. So, if you think about. it, my shareholders, the people that I. think most about, are actually the. players. That's not the same in other. sports. Where I came from, it was. owners and players, management and. labor. It was a collective bargaining. agreement. It was much different. It's a. different feel here when members of the.
board and the people are the. shareholders and they're and they're and. they're players. So, when you have that. relationship with them, I think it's. really different and unique, but also. something pretty powerful where I I I I. like to think we're really aligned with. where they want to go. Yeah, I would. think so, too. And I I think the. players, obviously, they see your. resume, they hear about what you've been. able to accomplish. They probably have a. lot of respect and trust in what your. vision is going to be, especially if. you're keeping them in the loop. And. what happened with the last guy that was. in your seat, you know, that was all.
very public. >> Yeah, mutiny. >> That was all very, very, very, very. public. Let's talk about one of the guys. in your locker room that's obviously. incredibly important to the game and to. our lives, I do believe. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Brian, I had a question cuz I it. when I was watching yesterday, it's like. this is so awesome that that Scotty and. Matt Matt Fitzpatrick, sorry, uh were in. the playoff. And it feels like Scotty is. in the top five and it's not feels like. he's in top five every single week. How. important is that for the tour to have. your stars and Scotty be in the top. five, top 10 every single week in. contention?
Well, I I think it helps. I think it's a. lot, but, you know, Pat, you asked me. about what I learned from my old job. So, here's the thing about the NFL. Um. I think and I'll get to your question in. a minute. The NFL works because. when the Cowboys are on television, you'll watch. Or when the Steelers are. on television, you'll watch. Or the. Giants, cuz they're from a big market. But what really works. is when the Bengals are good, you'll. watch. Or the Lions are good, you'll.
watch. And so, in golf, even right up to. this LIV thing, there was this. perception that, "Hey, a tournament is. only good if a couple of top guys are. playing or the couple guys on the. leaderboard on Sunday." When the reality. is, outside of the NFL, I can't find another. professional sport where the competitive. parity is so tight. So, that meaning. that the difference between the number. fifth ranked golfer in the world and the. 50th is nothing. It's razor thin. It's a. It's a stroke over 4 days. And so, I. think when you see Scotty being at the.
top of the leaderboard, it's great. And. the fact that he is top of the. leaderboard almost every week is an. amazing athletic accomplishment. It's. really, really hard to do. But, I also. think what you're seeing is this tour is. full of a lot of really good athletes. and golfers and compelling and we need. to do a better job exposing it. But, you. saw that out on Sunday, right? You saw. Scotty do what Scotty does, which is. make a weekend run. But, you saw Matt. who and what he did and he consistently. He consistently got there and and won.
the tournament. And by the way, it was. by a stroke in a playoff. And so, I. think on any given Sunday, that old. expression, I think it applies to the. PGA Tour more than almost any other. sport. So, you took that from the NFL. Okay, I got it. >> [laughter]. >> That's what you took. That's what you. took. I I respect Yeah, patent it, trademark it. Tell Commish you beat him. to it. But, it is real. As a Cam Young. comes into the scene, does his Gary. Woodland eagles on 18 or whatever from. like 200 yards. There's just like. spectacular things happening all around.
uh your tour. Now, the last question for. you and we appreciate you so much for. your time. I think it's a very important. one because the PGA Tour has always been. the best battling against the best. And. everybody thought that was what's going. to happen, you know, when everybody. split and divide. But, now you're in the. middle of having to figure that whole. thing out. D But has last question for. you here, bro. >> Yeah, we talked about uh some of the. rumors with the other tours. And now. with big game Brooks coming back to PGA. Tour, we saw some of the stipulations, I. guess, with his deal. Is there like a. defined path for players to come back to. the PGA Tour and is it kind of I guess.
situation situations are situation with. a player by player situation? How is it? Yeah, I think we're thinking about it. Listen, we're reading all the same. headlines you're reading. We don't know what's going on over. there. We don't know we know those guys. are under contract. We'll respect that. Brooks came back onto the tour because. he made a phone call and said look I'm. out of my contract and ready to come. back. So we're thinking about it. You know, we're we'll we'll react when. we have an opportunity to react but.
right now we're focused on the making. PGA Tour better. But listen, I've said it publicly and. I'll say it again. I'm interested in. whatever makes the PGA Tour better. That's what that's what that my job is. That's what I'm interested in doing and. and that has no limit. So that's that's. how I'll focus on it. I appreciate the hell out of what you. did for the NFL. I appreciate what you. did for us. Okay? Brian knows that I'm. I can get you know. I can certainly tell people. what a lot of people think. I actually. will say it which causes situations I.
would say. Uh. Brian, you've always been very patient. with me and us and very. giving for us. So we are very very. grateful for you, appreciative of you. Good luck out there. We can't wait to. continue to watch and I'm excited to see. the up and to the right the roll up. effect of the PGA Tour and the. incredible sport that you guys have. Well, Pat, we need to get you guys out. and experience a little bit of that. So. like I need you guys should come to the. Players Championship next year. Whatever. you should come and have fun. You're a good man, Brian. We'll see. We.
would definitely want to come. We would. definitely want to come. We also don't. want to ruin any of these things. I was. at Augusta. I watched the Masters last. We don't need to be anywhere near. >> [laughter]. >> I don't need to be anywhere near that. type of situation but we will certainly. evaluate everything else and we'd be. honored. So we're very appreciative. All right, we'll see you then. How's your game? Are you How's your. game? Are you asked or you good? Listen, I wasn't that great to begin. this job. The funny thing is I play less. golf in this job than I did before. [laughter] That's the problem. So, I'm. getting worse. I'm getting worse. >> Now, you lost all your bad habits.
You're only getting better. Ladies and. gentlemen, CEO of the PGA Tour, Brian. Rolapp. Yeah, yeah, Rolapp. He's a dog. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see your. tweet? No, I'm not the only one. >> [laughter]. >> I don't need to bring that up. We don't need to bring that up. We were getting. pseudo sued by somebody within the NFL. who has a partnership with the NFL cuz. we didn't clearly pay for graphics at. one point, but we had highlights. So, we. couldn't use the the NFL's graphics, but.
we could use the NFL highlights. So, my. entire defense was, "So, can I pause the. highlight? If I pause the highlight and. the helmet's on there, that's a. graphic." Wait, "Can't pause." "Okay.". >> Okay, got you. >> So, Brian Rolapp got to hear me. >> Oh, yeah, I remember. >> really in a full. We're using Connor's logos. >> Yeah, we drew them up. Is this what you. want? This is what I'm saying. >> Good times. Brian Rolapp, can we please. can we please please. We'd love to, Brian. Thank you. He's a. weapon. He can deal with everybody and. anything. That's why he's perfect for. the job. We're back on the other side. Goodbye.
Well, welcome to the main event OF. WRESTLEMANIA, PAT MCAFEE. EVERYTHING. HE'S DONE TO YOU, CODY. BEAT THE HELL. OUT OF HIM. EVERYTHING HE'S DONE TO YOU. >> [cheering]. >> JELLY ROLL. IS HERE. AND ALSO PAT MCAFEE AND PAT MCAFEE. JELLY ROLL. ON THE SPANISH ANNOUNCE TABLE. >> [cheering]. >> JELLY ROLL AND ELBOW DRIVING PAT MCAFEE. MCAFEE HALFWAY TO HELL.
NOW, go give THEM THE ONE-ON-ONE FIGHT. THEY CAME TO SEE. Go give them the fight they came to see. >> [cheering]. >> BRING THE GARBAGE TRUCK OUT AND TAKE OUT. THE TRASH. OH, WOW. MCAFEE COMPLETELY. WIPED OUT. THE BELL HASN'T EVEN RUNG. >> [cheering]. >> McAfee's out. >> Well, McAfee needs a stretcher. I THINK. THERE'S ONE ON THE WAY HERE. He needs a.
shrink is what he needs. And Randy Orton. walking on and he flattened Pat McAfee. Whatever game plan was in place for the. challenger here has completely gone out. the window. >> One other look. Jerry Rhodes with an. elbow driving McAfee through our. announce table as Cody Rhodes looks on. with a smile. And now, as they get. McAfee out of here, Wade, HERE'S THE. SITUATION. FINALLY, we're going to get. that one-on-one thing I need. That's the match between Orton and. Rhodes. Finally.
Equal playing field. NOBODY SCREWING. AROUND. Rhodes and Orton for the title. Well, the fix was attempted by McAfee. The jump-start before the bell even. rang. And McAfee now has a one-way. ticket to hospital. So, wait. I do want. to bring this up as they deal with. McAfee at ringside. Randy Orton. Randy Orton, there's been rumors running. rampant online all week long about Randy. Orton possibly being injured. From what.
I understand here, from what I. understand in the locker room today, there was a lot of talk about Randy. Orton having a back injury. So, will he. be 100% tonight? You know what you call. that? You call that a red herring. That's just another thing being thrown. at Cody Rhodes to think about. I don't. believe it for a second. Randy's been. through the wars in his career. We know. he's had major back issues. I don't see. any sign of that right now. Randy's. fine. So, does this McAfee situation. screw Randy up at all? 100%. Clearly, McAfee was here to be on the outside, to.
be a major issue and a thorn in the. side. We take another look at what just. went down before our main event even got. started as they Crossroads. followed up by this elbow drop through. the table by Jelly Roll who got attacked. by Austin and McAfee in the build up to. this. >> [applause].
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the Thunderdome, on this overreaction. Happy F'ing 420 Monday. Hour [music] two. of the program begins now. Sport. >> Aren't they the greatest? Play I'm so sorry. I don't look like. this. It's not your fault. >> Yeah, don't apologize. Three people are to blame for this. I got backstabbed a couple of times. Mhm. Business. That's a good call. Yeah, right. >> Mhm. Cody Rhodes caught me in a crossroads. Okay? I went for a big ride. Once again,
I ain't stopped doing that. But if it. landed. >> That's the Oculus. That's the Oculus'. problem and you know it. Jelly Roll, I. did it to him. I had a high big whooping. one and he slammed and he hit me. He He. saw it coming. I said I'm not doing it. again. Then there I am, grandest stage. of them all. He just posted Randy Orton. That's my guy. The bell hasn't rung. He's not supposed to beat us in this. fight. We We were supposed to beat him. in this fight. We're supposed to beat. him down before this match starts so. that whenever the match starts, he's. already battered. He's already bruised. THERE'S NO DOUBT RANDY ORTON'S going to. beat him if he's already beat him. They. flipped it on us, didn't they? Yeah, he.
did. Very quickly. Yeah. He knew. He's a. crafty son of a [ __ ]. >> And that's the thing about me, you know, and I'll grant I've done everything in. the wrestling business. You have. Okay, I've done everything in the wrestling. business. That's the thing about being. new in there though. I get so excited. I'm like, oh, here's my moment. I'm. going with a big one. And bang, he. moves, catches the angle Paul. I'm. upside down. Now I'm in his armpit. I'm. in his armpit. >> Not a good place to be. It's like I'm just like hypnotized. I. can feel my body, I can't move it. Like, what am I doing here? I didn't know I. was this flexible. I'm not. It hurt. Everything hurt. And then bang, right.
into the mat. Then all of a sudden he kicks me out. I. [ __ ]. fall out of the ring. It's not as It's. not a short fall. Sack of bones to the ground. Yeah, in my head it was a lot shorter. than this. >> It's not. As I was falling through the. sky, I was like whenever I'm in a dream. and you know you're falling and you're. Oh, yeah. That's what it felt like as I. was. And then I hit the ground. Boom, lose my. air. Then all of a sudden Kevin picks me. up, throws me up on a desk that I. burst. Correct. You You That thing. debuted. Okay?
And in there in which I was on a. commentary table. That's right. Standing. on it on a regular basis trying to get. one a little bit thicker probably. >> Mhm. Yeah. Where the hell did he come from? >> Good question. Great question. I HADN'T. SEEN THIS EX-CONVICT. HE'S A GOOD MAN. MHM. But in this moment I think he got. lost in the sauce of 106,000 people or. whatever it was. 106,000 tickets being. sold to be Things obliterated. Shrapnel all cuts cuts bam bang splinter. on my nipples. I mean it's a bad spot.
that I got going on here. my life? Yeah, but I lost control of my body. Had to. get stretchered out of there. They. stretchered me out after Jelly Roll. Jelly Rolled me. And that was whenever they saw the in. the back probably put a Look at that guy. that guy right there. >> What did he say like hope you get well. soon? Uh oh, no. Those marks they aren't like. NFL fans. No, no. No, they weren't. waiting for. >> Say some mean things you got to say. Like Lions fans. They're saying really. mean things. Really mean things. That. was the best. That was worth it all. And then I came back. >> Yeah, I mean Yeah, cuz I got my body was.
checked. They were worried about my. neck, but the body was A-OK. And you. know Charles Robinson goes down, let me. get uh let me get out here. Now, a lot. of people are asking if this would have. been official if I would have made it to. three. We'll never know. You got to get that. shoe lace didn't get you, too. Could. count a little faster, I think actually. looking back at it. That's That's That. was a big mistake. And uh maybe it was. my neck brace. Uh probably. I should. have counted quicker. You figured Randy. would have. That a lot. That kind of says it all cuz. you sprinted down that ramp. Cuz and you. couldn't tie your shoe because of your.
neck obviously, but you get you trip. over that shoe lace. So that's going to. be tough. Yeah. And there has been. people that have have not had good runs. down ramps. >> other people who did not break down. going down that ramp this weekend. What's that? Big dog Big dog was going. 100 miles an hour. He did not break down. there. >> about Bron Breaker? Yeah. Yeah, Bron. Breaker did a nice little spear. I think. it was nearly just a drop. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I mean we're TALKING ABOUT THE. CUZ DOWN THE END THERE THERE'S A IS A. LITTLE DROP OFF. >> YEAH.
You know, and uh did I know that as. well? I don't know. What a psycho. Yeah, Bron Breaker's back. That's good. There's a lot of things I saw I was like. it's good. Oh, good internet connection. >> Man, it's really good. Danhausen. Did. you see that? Danhausen incredible. And. his group. >> And his group of midgets which Michael. Cole said that's exactly what they. wanted to be called. Michael Cole said. before you cancel me online. >> Mhm. this particular group of people. told me that they want me to call them. Hausen's midgets. >> Yes. And they were, weren't they? They. showed right up there for Cena. Cena did. a phenomenal job.
>> Oh my god, though. So good. And then. Roman Reigns with what? 0% body fat? >> Huh. Yeah. Yo. That was quite the. difference. >> Those shoes. Is that 0% body fat out. there? >> Tribal Chief's back. It was a hell of a. show. Six-man tag. All right, I'm sorry. Six-man uh six-pack ladder match. Did. you guys watch that? >> Oh, yeah. McDonagh. >> Spectacular. >> Spectacular. McDonagh won't put his life. on McDonagh. We knew it soon as, you. know, I I I said in lead-up, you know, as I was trying to motivate my friend. Rikishi. Former. Yeah, I was going to say. I use.
that term loosely. I was trying to. explain to him that everybody's ass. The. only thing that's good is you. Okay? That was the hype up a friend. That's what I put other people down to. lift him up. That's what I'm doing. That. that is exactly what I'm doing to do it. I didn't even look at Sunday. Okay? Didn't even So, I said Sunday not worth. a watch. This is what you need to be. watching. A lot of people took that very. personally. I could [laughter] see that. A lot of. From my understanding At the moment you. went wrong. No, I was just Hey, this is. what it's about right here. Okay? A lot. of people took that very personally. And. I would like to let everybody know if I.
watched that Sunday, woo, from takeoff. until land, perfectly timed. A lot of. people said it wasn't long enough, but. for me in my particular flight, perfectly timed. What a show. Penta hit that Mexican. Destroyer on him. Oh, on McDonagh? Yeah. Rusev? Did we know he was going to be in. there? >> No. What a perfect light. That head thing. Oh, oh, yeah. That was a good show. >> great. That was a great show. Brock and. Omos semi, you know, I was not familiar. with his game. I'll just say that. Guy.
is an. absolute. >> Omos is [ __ ] freak of nature. Omos is. talented. That SEC baby. Yeah. Now, not. really. Do you get it? Right. SEC shot. put. >> Yeah, you're starting really right. He's. a monster. I thought he played left. tackle, Bama. And how about him just. eating an F5? >> Yeah. Eating an F5. Just getting right. up and saying, "How you doing?". Unbelievable. There's some big. >> Way to kick off. I mean, that's two you don't see that. >> That's just not walk That's WWE. >> That's what we were talking about the. whole time. Those are WWE superstars. With what we learned. We learned that we.
learned everything. >> Not that one guy in the main event on. Sunday. That was a great match. I said it was going to be shite. I was. wrong, man. I'm a I'm a big fan of the where the. direction WWE is going. You know, a few. years ago they. They were calling it Triple H something. else and then they were going Triple K's. and. uh at uh Take His Oil. They were saying. I mean, we got Oba. We got Javon Evans, Trick Willy. You know, Jade lost to Rhea. Welcome.
back, Rhea. You got the title back, but. um Rhea, by the way. I. I she doesn't look nearly as jacked. >> No. She looked. so explosive like nimble. Yeah. That was. awesome to watch. And then Jade. I mean, I didn't know that. Is that why. I didn't know that? Once again, we're continuing to talk. WWE. You're right. Congrats, WWE. You. guys are in a great direction, man. Happy You saved it. Congrats, [applause]. you saved it.
>> Yeah, certainly did. They weren't in a. great direction till. I'll tell you what, a lot of people took. it very personally. >> Well, and everyone still bitched about. it regardless. No way. Nah, well, hey, that's the business, baby. That is the business. Good luck to all parties out there. I. would like to say about the American. Nightmare out there, Cody Rhodes. He just might be the right one. Yeah, that man's a WWE That might just be the. right one, that man. I. just you know, getting the cheat cuz. I've been studying him, you know. Mhm.
Tape. Yeah. I'm studying him, trying to. help out, drop some things in there. He. don't need my help in the ring. Okay, he's obviously winning or what? Well, I could have gave it to him. I wonder if I would have went over to. the bell. and they would have been like. no. What do we do then? I mean, were there. any stipulations beforehand put in place. that said you couldn't do that? >> clear, I I sprinted through gorilla. I. was not in gorilla. Like I sprinted. right by. >> [laughter]. >> Can't slide out. That's why there was no lights, no. nothing. Just me coming flying in there.
I was going to save the day. The picture of perfection. Yeah, I. thought about that a lot, you know. I I realized in the moment that I. certainly put enough thinking into that. Instead [laughter]. of everything else that was going on. Yeah, it was an honor. It was an honor. to be a part of it all and. WWE put on a hell of a two days out. there in Vegas. Shout [applause]. out to the roster. Shout out. They did a great job.
Dan Hausen is a problem. I will say I did meet the Hausen. And we're out of there. I saw him five. different times. Always full. >> [clears throat]. >> Yeah. Are you sure it wasn't one of his guys? I didn't know the group of Michael Cole. said it, not me. Midgets. Okay, that is their group's name. Little.
people is proper term. We do believe. we've been down this road before. Michael Cole said this group would like. to be called it. I had not seen that. particular group with the Hausen. I had. not seen that. Have you confirmed that. his curses actually work? Yes, the Mets. lost 11 straight or something. Well, Dan. Hausen's from Detroit and he cursed all. of Detroit's enemies and that would. include the Orlando Magic and we lost. and we're the one seed in the series. isn't over yet. So I'm not a believer in. Dan Hausen. Foxy, I would not be doing. that. Hear that Dan Hausen?
We better win a title Dan Hausen. Foxy, that group is going to walk in here. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. Okay, because of you. We're trying. to stay out of the negative with that. group. All right, let's move on to talk about. sports, NBA playoffs and then playoffs. happen. Talks to tables here at Boston. Connor at Ty Schmidt. Want to have the. hammer? Done. Cowboys AP Tony's here. Going back to Pittsburgh this week. >> not wait. This is going to be the best. week of the entire year. Not even close. I'm very interested to. see.
the view is going to be amazing. Yes. Okay, the optics of the draft are going. to be incredible. Pittsburgh built for. optically awesome things, especially. with football with where the stadium is, with all the history. I mean, it is it. is going to be phenomenal viewing. I'm I'm intrigued to see how many people. cuz there's a lot of Yinzers talking. right now. >> I've decided A lot of Yinzers talking. right now saying, I ain't going down. there. You're right. Listen. >> And then what? Am I supposed to come. home or am I just [ __ ] sleeping, Donner? How we getting out of. >> That's That's who we are. We're going to. [ __ ] okay? And it's supposed to be what? 200,000.
people a day? Who cares? Who cares what. they think, okay? It's about the TV. product. And if it looks good on TV, the. rest of the nation thinks it was great. Doesn't matter. See, that's what the. Yinzers are saying right there cuz now. they're adding to the I actually kind of. want to watch the city uh a little here. on TV while it's happening. I don't know. why I need to get I'm hearing a lot of. people come around and be like, yeah, I'm a I'm a go down and see it. >> push comes to shove. I think push comes. to shove. Last day. Want to get down and. see it. Frank's going to get asked about. it. Hey, we got a ride going down there now. Do. you want to go?
I said I wasn't going. Are you sure you. don't want to go? All right, there ain't nothing else. Like the weather the weather Thursday I. know Friday. I know Yinzers the. weather's supposed to be immaculate. They're going to get off of work on. Friday and everyone's heading down. Oh, tarps off. Ah, I cannot wait to see the crowd, Donner. Yeah, if they see people too on. the TV that aren't Yinzers, they're. going to be pissed that there are people. that aren't Yinzers on there and then. they're going to need to go to represent. Pittsburgh in itself. >> I'm excited. This is a nice little. social experiment for Yinzers as we look.
from the outside in here. You know, it's. uh I'm excited to see how they handle. it. I think it's going to look amazing. I think it's going to be fantastic. I. think you're going to learn a lot about. Pittsburgh football and the history of. how much football matters to the area. I. think you're potentially also going to. learn that injuries are I ain't doing. it. There's a lot of that potentially. [laughter] Can't wait. as well in the. city. We'll see how it goes. Now your. NFL veteran Darius Heyward-Bey is here. to talk to Hey everybody. Excited for. the draft spectacular, brother. I think. we got a good one. I am. We will. obviously Bill Cowher. I can't wait to. be in his presence for those few hours. It will be a little faster. Can't wait.
for that. The crowd. Can't wait for. that. It should be electric on all. fronts. Bill Cowher is excited. >> Oh yeah. Bill Cowher is knowledgeable. and Bill Cowher is going to love that. he's back in Pittsburgh. >> Mhm. Okay. And we are incredibly. thankful and lucky that he'll be joining. us. AQ Shipley will also be there. And. maybe some surprises. >> Ooh. Maybe some surprises. Not like what we. did to the WWE world. >> Okay. That was pretty dope. That was a good. surprise. >> Top notch. I felt pretty good about that. Top. fantastic work. Surprise, nerds. Did you see all the.
wrestling people the way they were. reporting it? Uh calling your fans that. paid money to be there nerds is not a. good idea. Who said that? Like shut the. [ __ ] up. Yeah. Okay. Shut up. Nerd. That was awesome. Exactly. >> the business. >> Exactly. I would The fact we ran that. live, the amount of things That's good. >> we That's good heat. We knew that was. going to happen. We said, "Hey, you put. big surprise up on that thing, those. people are going to drone like zombies. right over their surprise. Surprise. Surprise. Surprise." We knew there was. going to be a massive massive crowd. I.
mean just just well executed, well done, hilarious on all fronts. [snorts] And. even the people in the crowd, most of. them were like, "Oh man, he got us. pretty good.". >> [laughter]. >> It was a fun run. It was It was a fun. run there. I'll tell you what, three. weeks, okay? That's [clears throat] how. long that was. Did that feel like three. weeks or did that feel like two years? >> Two years. Two years. Yeah. I can. imagine how long it felt for you. Yeah. It was a good time. Thank you, WWE, for. the opportunity. And I would like to say I think the. relationship between ESPN and WWE. started off good there. Yeah. Strong.
>> We'll see, I guess. Everybody will kind. of see cuz there was some wonderings, there was some worries. We'll see how, you know, everything goes. Excited to be. a part of it. That'd be a good partnership for a long. haul. Oh, yeah. See, sports media. people. So, you got the wrestling people. mad that ESPN's doing it. Yep. Yep. And. then you got the sports media people mad. about Yeah, why the hell are WE TALKING. ABOUT WWE? BY THE WAY, our show, 90% of the NBA and. NFL turned it off. Yeah. I I don't think that was. highlighted enough. I think that was. kind of just thrown in there for a.
thing. We're here for sports, but also. WWE and ESPN partnership, I think it is. a pretty big one. I think there was a. lot I think Entertainment. >> I think it's a pretty big thing. So, everybody buying into it. I'd like. to say to the people at ESPN. I not that I speak for anybody at the. WWE literally. >> [laughter]. >> I do not speak for wrestling fans and I. do not speak for the WWE. I do not say. that. But, I appreciate that the ESPN. folks did go all in. Like, that was. cool. That's a good way to welcome a new. partnership. >> Yeah, for sure. Wouldn't that be fun?
Did you see they made a documentary. about Inside the NBA, too? ESPN did. Welcoming you men. Did not see that. That's really cool of them to do that. That's a cool thing to do to people that. are coming to your network, you know? That's a very fun thing to do. That. would be awesome to experience. >> Yes, it would. Wouldn't that feel good. as a That would be feel great. That. would be good. A warm hug. So, congrats. to the ESPN and WWE's relationship. I. think it'll be amazing. And congrats everybody going all in. That was fun. That was a fun. WrestleMania. That was a fun road to. WrestleMania there for the last That was. fun.
The mentions, I'm excited for those to. stop. Yeah. I bet. I could see that. Just want to ruin everybody. Just want. to go into the profile, scroll through. the photos, screenshot the photos. Do a little bit more research. Previous. articles wrote by person. Screenshot. that stuff. I had some time yesterday on that. flight. One one one person in particular. almost got a full on barrage. And I said, "No, I'm out of business.". True. Which I am. That is a good move. though, just picking one.
Out of just So you see, you're like. Nick. That's That's what Nick has always. been. >> Just one. Old Frankie skates back there, he's. always the friend you send it, send it, send it cuz I'll screenshot something. Mhm. About to be just a murder, just a. murdering of somebody with facts, reason, and actual logic, and. photo evidence. I can't just do that. anymore on X. I used to really go at. people. >> Mhm. You know, you talk [ __ ] about me, sweet, you open the door, I'm going to. murder you now. Let's go and see who's. Let's go and do this, you know? Can't do. it anymore. Nick's always the guy you.
got to send a message. Sounds like you. are as well. I'm not going to see I'm. not going to send it. Set an example. Just one. All you need is one. >> You guys are bad people, okay? We don't. need to go into that buzzsaw anymore. We're done with the business. Okay. Rest in peace. Are you sad? It was a good run, man. Great run. It was a good run. Yeah, it was a good run. >> I remember the first day. Well, if you treat every day like it's. your first day, actually, which is one. of the WWE rules, always has been. Every. day could be the most exciting day in.
the WWE. Well said. >> think I tried to do that. Literally every single day. Mhm. Pretty isolated last 3 weeks though, I. will say. Didn't really see anybody. >> [laughter]. >> Didn't really talk to anybody. >> That's healing. That is healing. Had no internet or. anything on the bus. You know, just kind of locked away. Just. locked away. Mhm. Let me go ahead and open this [ __ ] up. Where am I headed? That way. All right. I had everybody in here. Yeah. And then right back out. That was a. crazy run. >> Oh yeah. What a road. I'm not sad.
I'm thankful. Hell yeah. And on that note, Bam. All right. Good run. Good run. GREAT WORK. >> [applause]. >> ALL RIGHT. IT IT FUN. I LOVED IT. IT WAS A CHILDHOOD DREAM, LOT OF THEM. >> YEAH, multiple WrestleManias. Mhm. I. mean, that's, you know. Yeah. Multiple. main events. Yeah. So cold. >> just so many different little moments.
Stunner, yeah, obviously. The run down. the ramp. >> Th- That That personally, I mean That. might be my favorite one. >> my That was my favorite thing you've. ever done this year. Oh my god. Oh, man. I felt pretty athletic. Yeah. As I was. running, I'm like, all right, everything's kind of holding up. >> And if you don't have perfect posture. there, you're collapsing. Cuz my neck. Yeah, exactly. So. >> Exactly cuz of my. >> [laughter]. >> I mean, just so much stupid. All right, let's get out of here. Let's. move along. Joining us live from Maniac. in Ohio is a man who's a college. football national champion, Super Bowl. champion, Rookie of the Year winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk.
C2, C5, any workouts I need to do? I tell you what, I prayers up for your. scans. I hope they come back very. positive, obviously. I hate to see you. in the neck brace again. It's tough to. see you this way, but you do handle it. very well as we saw you sprinting down. the ramp at a 4.4 pace. That was. amazing. >> Thank you. It was a little downhill. Might have been 4.5, 4.6, who knows. I. was trying That was just three-quarter. stride. Yeah. >> want to mess up the neck too much, you. know. I didn't want to mess up the neck. too much. Down there at the bottom, I. should have done a little bit more uh. calculation on the drop-off cuz there. was a lead down and then a pick back up. and I guess I should have counted.
quicker. I'm not even wearing the same. shirt as the refs, okay? OG. I am a Yeah, old school. >> I am old school. >> Yeah, throwback. Mistake I made, AJ, I. should have counted quicker. That That's. on me. Prob But I mean But you were a legit. ref. But in the moment though, you. You're a showman as well and you're an. entertainer. So you got You can't just. boom, boom, boom, one, two, three of. them. You know that. You're right. I didn't even goodness. Yeah, I mean, that's it, right? Maybe. that's what Randy was upset about. I. already got that I respected the. business. >> Yeah. Cuz I did think if he's going to. become ch- Oh, good call, Tony.
Cuz he he wanted a quick count. But I didn't I didn't want to do it. No, cuz you're to honor. But also, the. question remains, if I do count to three. there, does it even matter? Do they ring the bell and you guys are. out of there? I don't know, yeah. I I do. not know. I do not know. matters. >> Yeah. I do not know. >> Cody, Cody was clearly respecting the. count. All right. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. a man that tried to get into a little. WWE action himself. on X. He decided to go after an entire city. I used to be one of you.
Let me go ahead and showcase how I know. I used to be one of you. One of the. greatest tweets I've seen in a while for. a guy clapping back at a city trying to. say, "Don't you talk about us. You're a. different now. You live in the city of. stars. You won a Super Bowl with the. Rams. You won a Walter Payton Man of the. Year with the Rams. You are celebrated. as an all-time great Ram. Don't need you talking about our city. over here in Ohio hasn't won a ever.". Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the. program, Amazon Prime pundit, absolute.
stallion, Super Bowl champion, future. first ballot Hall of Famer, Whitworth. I mean, who knows? Ladies and gentlemen, Andrew Whitworth. What up, baby? How you doing, man? Gentlemen, gentlemen, I'm good, baby. I. love what you tweeted there to. Cincinnati. Can we please run through. all of the things briefly here? You. played 168 games as a Bengal. That would. be enough. Okay, you should could have. put period. Sent that thing. >> Three division titles. Hey, we did some. good things together. Could have sent. that and stopped. Five straight playoff.
appearances, six total if we're counting. just as a total. Could have sent just. that. Had all four of my kids there. That's like, "Hey, >> deal. Okay, that's kind of the thing.". Then this is where you kind of take a. good turn in my eyes. "I've been to Jeff Ruby's 1,000 times. I. pretended to like Skyline Chili when I. was sober. I've stumbled drunk around. Mount Adams eating pizza. Montgomery Inn. barbecue is literally in my fridge right. now. I spent many a night in the. Courtyard Covington. Sat in Red Suite. with Neil [ __ ] Armstrong. Watched Amy. Grant with the CPO at Cincinnati Music. Hall. I partied with Nick Lachey. Okay,
That's a huge one. 98 Degrees, obviously. Club Bang on Fourth Street. If you know that, you're a Cincy person. You ate the Blue Goose sushi boat in. regular You sat with Charlie Sheen as he. smoked the cig in the Queen city club. So obviously big big time big time. Cincinnati day and then you said and. list goes on so I'll use we respectfully. any damn time I want. Who dey? Okay, so. this obviously all comments as you start. to celebrate the Cincinnati Bengals move. of Dexter Lawrence I would assume. Can. you explain to me how you think that.
happened and why you think this helps. the Bengals and if you're going to be. you were the pride of the Yeah, pride of. the jungle. Pride of the jungle this. year. If this is going to make. Cincinnati a lot more lovable worldwide. why does anybody care? How do you feel. this helps the team and why do you like. the move Whit? I like the move just because to me I. think of our run in 2011-2015. Pat. We went to the playoffs five years. in a row and one of the things that. always stuck to me when I left there and. I got to LA and I think of some of the. swings that we took when I was with the.
Rams organization is it always felt like. all right, we're a damn good football. team. We just can't quite get over the. hump but there was never this all in. moment from the organization and when I. say that I'm talking from up top. Hey, let's go make that big trade. Let's go. sign that one more person to a contract. that maybe we're pushing it a little bit. in the cap but we're saying hey, we're. going to win a damn Super Bowl. To me. that's what's been missing in my opinion. in the Joe Burrow era is like all right, you do have this unbelievable. quarterback. You do have some really. talented receivers and you have been.
able to put up some great offensive. numbers but where are the big swings. every off season that say I think. sometimes you need to put the whole. building on notice. We're all in. Like. we're going to go try to win a Super. Bowl and that's the bottom line and so I. think to me this was their version of. that. It's more about the message. Do I. think Dexter Lawrence is a good good. piece to them having that opportunity? Hell yeah, I do but I also love the. message. We're sending the whole team a. message. Hey, we got a window. We're. about to go try to take that window.
right now. Everybody lock in and let's. go. Seems like it was a good deal for. both parties as well to get done. I did. not expect Duke Tobin to ever do this. This is obviously a a top 10 pick trade. First time they've ever done that in the. history of the Bengals. We all assume. that everybody would want Dexter. Lawrence if he was available cuz how. good of a football player he is. Tell me. a little bit about how the Cincinnati. Bengals decide Dexter Lawrence instead. of Trey Hendrickson. Is that the. conversation you think? And with the way. Trey is kind of gone the last 3 years, and then now we bring in sexy Dexy to.
the D-line. Do you think they were just. ready for the next chapter there without. Trey? Like what How do you think we get. to this point? And should I even. consider that being tied together? Yeah, I think people are going to make. that the argument, but I would say it's. two total different things. I think of. an edge rusher is Edge rushers are a lot. easier to handle in the sense of you can. chip, you can you can adjust. protections, you can do a lot of things. to take one single edge rusher and try. to limit their impact. But when you're. talking about interior push, destroying. guys in the run game, being able to. create 100 something pressures over the.
last few years like this guy has done. in his time as a New York Giant, like. that's something you just can't do much. about. He's getting double teamed and it. doesn't matter. He's going to impact the. interior of the defense and that offense. is going to have to adjust for how they. proceed with him there. I think that. that's a just a huge piece to when you. start to say, "All right, let's look at. how we can be better." I mean, we forget. they have performed on offense. I mean, they lost games last year in just. absolutely. head-scratching, frustrating ways cuz. they can't get off the grass and defend.
on defense. When they have defended on. defense, they went to a Super Bowl. And. that was when D.J. Reader and Trey and. those guys were playing really well. And. forget And don't forget they didn't. build that through the draft, either. They built that through adding some free. agents at a price and saying we're going. to go spend some money, some veterans. around here, and then the emergence of. Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase and Tee. Higgins. And so, you look at this now, and you say, "Hey, where they were in. the draft at the 10th pick, where they. going to get that superstar defensive. player who without question is playing.
and playing a lot as a rookie?" They. they were unsure if it was going to fall. that way. This gives them a guaranteed. football player, a guy who's going to. impact a football game on the defensive. side of football in in up front in the. interior right now. They don't have any. questions about that. So I think to me. it gives them a guarantee and makes them. say, "Hey, let's go play some defense. Let Joe Burrow do his thing and let's. get ourselves back in Super Bowl." Don't. forget where it is this year. They want. to re- They want to redo. They want to. be back in SoFi having an opportunity a.
Super Bowl again. And Aaron Donald is. the one that wrecked that, by the way. Last play, interior D-lineman, wrecked. it for the Bengals. They would have your. ass. They would have had your ass. That. little confetti moment. with that little confetti moment with. your kids, which is like one of the most. beautiful moments of all time, NEVER. HAPPENS. >> [laughter]. >> OKAY? Never happens if it wasn't for. Aaron Donald just blowing the entire. play up seemingly out of nowhere from. the middle of the defensive line. I. The thought of Dexter Lawrence with. Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins now all of. a sudden. Now that we know Ja'Marr and Tee Higgins.
a little bit more, okay, after the radio. row appearance. >> Yeah. What the [ __ ] quarterback for the Bears'. name? Okay. That was That was Ja'Marr Chase. >> Yeah. It was the best. Dexter Lawrence, by all accounts, is the best, right? >> Yes. And that kind of what the thing. was. I think there was a report that. Harbaugh was not allowed to talk to. Dexter Lawrence or something because the. agent denied any conversation. I didn't. even know that was allowed. But I think. it's because Dexter Lawrence is like the. best. Harbaugh could have gone in there. been like, "Hey, listen, this is boom. boom boom." So I'm excited for that. Locker room maybe becoming electrifying.
as well over there. Go ahead, A.J. Yeah, as no lineman, a guy that you. played with, Geno Atkins. I was with you. for one year in Cincinnati. I remember. there was times in practice, an interior. D-lineman, Geno would shut practice. down. They'd have to take him out. because the guy was so disruptive. I'm. just curious with Dexter Lawrence, is. that something you're looking for from. him in the interior? And how how tough. can it be for an offense when you have a. guy that interior that gets a great push. on pass plays, but also is impossible to. move in the run game. Yeah, I mean, look at it, too, really.
You look at the what Baltimore lost this. year in Tyler Linderbaum in the center. up front. You look at really the. Steelers trying to figure themselves out. up front, who their group's going to be, and the Browns as well. So, when you. say, "Hey, we're going to go at a. dominant force in the interior." And. don't forget Cincinnati's situation. It's all about all the other pieces that. matter, too. Two young linebackers going. into their second year. Now, they're. going to have an absolute stud playing. in front of them. How's that going to. impact them and them to play at a high. level? You've brought in a lot of other. free agents, whether it be in the. secondary, or Boye Mafe, so another edge.
rusher. Now, this frees you up in the. draft to go, "All right, we probably. need another secondary guy. Let's look. at some interior help in the offensive. line, cuz Dalton Risner's only on a. 1-year deal. The rest of your line looks. to be together for the future years.". And then, you know what? Is there that. dynamic edge rusher on third down that. we can get? Because here's the reality. of Trey Hendrickson. He's a hell of a. player, but here's the truth. He is. ranked at the top of the group when it. comes to sacks and pressures at the. quarterback, no doubt. But, let's go. look where he's ranked in the run game. in all those years as well. It it ain't.
up at the top. So, my point is is that. you're talking about a guy who, yeah, he. put up a lot of numbers. I played. against the guy like that I would. compare him to in Arizona in Chandler. Jones. Lot of statistical things. Hey, going to get create a lot of sacks. He's. going to get some pressures on the. quarterback. But, you know what else you. can do? You can run the football right. at him all the time, anytime you want. So, when you're dictating the terms on. defense, that's the reality. And so, to. me, I think when you talk about a guy. like Dexter Lawrence, you're talking. about all three downs, how can we affect.
it? How can we go get maybe a guy in. this draft that's an electric pass. rusher who can come on the field on. third down and then impact us there, while we also have the interior push of. Dexter Lawrence? That's just the. reality. Trey's a hell of a player. Is. he a guy you want in a closing. situation? No doubt about it. If you're. up in a game and you want to get off the. grass, that's who you want rushing the. quarterback. But, But you're talking. about a defense that's been 30th in the. NFL, that's been dead last, I think. they're trying to figure out how do we. put all the pieces together that help us. be a total defense, not just one that.
can win on third down and eight when we. need a guy to go get a sack. I love that you said they are trying to. figure out there as opposed to we cuz of. the tweet, but then at the end, you. know, you spoke as we. As a Bengal fan, I think anytime you build up the. trenches, you know, Jerry Jones kind of. said it whenever he traded away Mack. Now, is it going to be end up being true. with Mack up in Green Bay? I doubt it. That offense or that defense obviously. and he was in on like every single play. But Jerry said like. uh we got to be able to stop the run, Mack. Mack is not stopping the run. Calling.
the wrong name. >> [laughter]. >> And then he said that you need to be. able to stop the run. That's a very real. thing, especially in this NFL right now. You know, right now it seems to matter. more than ever, which is why I think the. trenches are going to be spotlighted. more than ever. There's some interesting. decisions being made with young guys or. just uh being hypothesized that are. seemingly easy. I don't know if that's. the case. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Big. Whit, it's draft week. Uh and when you. look at the top for tackles, it's. Mailata and Faalele, both right tackles. in college and a lot of people have. their third right tackle as Blake Miller.
or sorry, third tackle overall. Blake. Miller's a right tackle as well. But. then some of the teams at the top, they. need left tackles. How do you feel about. guys um who are very, very talented? Can. they make the move to left tackle? And. then also if like the Lions, depending. on who they take, have talked about. moving Sole over to left tackle as well. How hard is that as a tackle to move. from the right side to left side or vice. versa? I think when you're talking about coming. from college to NFL, not as big a deal. as long as you don't have something. where the guy's got an injury or. limitation where he can't switch feet. I.
think that the biggest thing though is. when they get to the NFL, uh you know, you don't want to toy with that much. It's It's too. you know, everything becomes too. nuanced. It becomes you got to be so. elite at it that you don't want to be. flipping all the time. I think it's one. of the craziest things ever watching in. Wirfs and Penei Sewell the last few. years being able to do that. Like I I. just was one of those people literally. left side once I started playing it, that's all I could do. Uh you know, the athletes those guys. are, it just shows by their ability to. do it. I just think once you get to the.
NFL, it's a tougher thing to me. I just. don't know a lot of guys who flip side. to side who are the your elite players. And if I want an elite guy, I want to. find the side I want him to be on and I. want him to become elite at it. And so, I think drafting them in the draft, I. don't get over the concern about. especially when you're talking about. those guys. You're talking about some. guys that have all the skill sets. possible to play the positions each one. of them and whether it be their size, their athleticism, or their length, all. those things. So, really it's about, "Hey, what's the guy we're the most. comfortable that?" I'm sure they've seen. him move and they say, "Hey, this is the.
guy we're the most comfortable being. able to move over there." And that may. be why they lean to one of them over the. other cuz they feel like they can get. over there, take the kind of kick sets. they want, play with the balance in the. position, uh and they see the most. upside in them being able to flip over. and be the same guy. See, I'm only a. left tackle. Yeah, I get me too, Pat. I'm I I just. can't I I I know athleticism with the. right kick. Well, you also played guard. from my understanding, right? And you. said it was the easiest thing you've. ever seen cuz people [laughter] are just. running into you or whatever the case. is. >> was. big Graeter's ice cream era. That was a.
big Graeter's black raspberry chip. Uh you know, it that was a big era. I. was 365 then, so almost 100 lb from. where I am now. So, it it was a it was a. big that was a big boy. I was big wit. for sure then. That's. >> [laughter]. >> Uh Justin Smith, you talked about the. WWE Justin Smith at that time used to. call me the Big Show. That was actually. my nickname. Where? Well, it's the Wiz Show. That's it, baby.
I know, I saw your wrestling aspirations. at that league meeting. Uh league league. Rashad, I'll tell you what. That's what. good. Yeah, I should have I should have. been preparing right there cuz I would. take some lethal shots just a few weeks. later. You know, with that would have I would. have had you back, Pat. Exactly. >> I got you, baby. It's too late now. You were too busy. Twitter fingering with Cincinnati. That's what you were doing. You were. doing the whole I've been in movies. I've been in. >> dropped it. Yeah. I dropped the ball. That's on me. That's on me. >> Well, good news is you'll never miss it. again cuz I'm out of the business.
forever. That's right. Okay, speaking of. business forever. And we just talked. about, you know, guys that are tall, athletic, have all the things to make. There's a guy that's been doing it a. long time just got rewarded again. They're talking goat conversations. Go. ahead, Con man. >> Yeah, what Pat's talking about Trent. Williams getting a two-year $50 million. extension with the Niners so he can go. back. We've kind of seen Brock Purdy and. the Niners without Trent Williams and. clearly they're affected whenever he's. not on the field. Is he kind of the. greatest left tackle of all time? Where. do you kind of put him? And also, what.
does just having that kind of stalwart. at the left tackle do for your entire. team? Cuz we've seen, you know, Trent. Williams pregame against Cleveland. Browns when they're going to throw down. and fight and then Trent walks over and. then everything kind of stops. What does. he mean for this team? And where do you. kind of see him ranking on the all-time. list? You know, I actually made this point on. Thursday Night Football this year. I. actually think Trent, in my opinion, has. really He's He's put himself there as.
the all-time great. I really do. And And. listen, Anthony Muñoz was a mentor of. mine and somebody I've looked up to my. whole life. The man he is, the player he. was. He was so generationally ahead of. his time. It was He was an unbelievable. player and to me has held that for a. long, long time. But. I think what Trent has been able to do, not just in the run game, not just in. the pass game, in the screen game, the. athlete he is out in space. I mean, DBs. and especially now that they can't go. low and try to take out the legs and.
they have to stay up with this freak of. nature. >> [laughter]. >> Exactly. Sherman I argue about it all. the time. And Trent is It's unfair. I. mean, it really is unfair. Uh I think he is without question the. greatest athlete and impact left tackle. in the history of the game. I mean, I. think that to me, when you really look. at all three levels of what you're asked. to do, and then you talk about. consistency, longevity, ability, availability, uh and adapting to today's game and. every version of the game he's had to. play through, uh he's the greatest to me.
of all time, and he he's submitted. himself as that. As a guy who's going to. be a Hall of Fame left tackle, that is. very cool to hear you say, by the way. That humility, but also the reasoning on. why we should maybe view him as the. greatest of all time, as well. I. appreciate the hell out of that, Whit. Now, I will say, after seeing you at the league meetings, and I I told you this, I do think I can maybe. >> [laughter]. >> I do. >> No chance. How you saw my get off! You. saw IT! YOU FELT IT, DIDN'T YOU? You did.
feel it a little bit. With you 265, I'm. close. I could get you. >> of shape. Hey, Pat, my my insurance goes. out this year, so I'm thinking about. pulling a, you know, I'm I think I'm. going to join Rivers and and be Philip. Philip Rivers. I'm going to get my 5. years of insurance back this year, maybe. I'm trying to see if I can get me. just How many games you got to play? Give me a shot, baby. Bring the big show. back. >> How many games do you have to play to. get that? Just one? I think you just got to be on one. I. mean, come on, let's go. McVay, come on, man, please. I got [laughter] to get one. game. Shanahan, they'll let me come be. the right tackle for a week. I don't. know. Come on, guys. I know the system.
>> count for practice squad? Cuz they got. vets on practice squad now since COVID. Remember COVID, they opened a practice. You got to be on You got to be on the. roster for a game. I think that I think. that's the thing. >> Don't even have to play. You can get it. >> I got a lot of kids. I mean, we need. this. Come on, guys. >> [laughter]. >> I think it seems pretty easy. Just put. you on a roster for. >> cut and dry. >> Yeah, just And we should start doing. this. Every team. should negotiate in an extra roster spot. to bring in a veteran for a week, you. know, to keep up their insurance. Give a. speech. I assume you'll give a speech. I. assume you'll give a Yeah, a route. You.
do the entire thing. Yeah, absolutely. Maybe show team, too. You know, get some. reps in with the helmet on, get some. pictures. Oh, he was really there mixing. it up. You know, that whole thing. Do. you think you could? Cuz I when I was. looking at you. See, I. I was on same team as Dwight Freeney and. Robert Mathis. Okay, so I uh Yeah, I. don't I I don't want to do that. >> [laughter]. >> No, but I understand the chess game of. this entire Sure. So, when I saw you, you know, I'm going to try to speed you. I'm going to try to speed you right now, get you thinking you're going out there. You're 265 right now. I think I'm going. Yeah, I think I'll.
walk him back. I I think I'm going long arm on him. I I. think Yeah, he's got short arms. Short arms. >> Yeah. I'll be able to get that. I'll be. able to get that hand right there, right? Don't you think that'll be there? That hand will NEVER TOUCH ME. WHAT? >> [laughter]. >> WOULDN'T EVEN MAKE CONTACT. >> past you. I I got 36 and 1/2 inch arms. I don't I. don't think you you got to Long arm. would not be the road I would go. If I. was going to go any road, I would not go. that one. We'll feel it out.
>> It's chess game. >> Last thing he'd expect. >> Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there you go. Who knows what. happens with C2 here, C3, C4, you know? Yeah, I was going to say, watching you. run to the ring, little vertical in the. stride if you think you're going TO LONG. ARM. I THINK WE'LL HAVE A DOCTOR ON AT 2:05. EASTERN, BY THE WAY. DR. David Chao from. Minnesota. Okay, perfect. Okay, [laughter] let's let's get the. pass rushing going, D-Butt. Yeah, arm. length is actually kind of a part of. this conversation. Always is in draft. season. But, with the top rushers in.
this year's draft, you got Rueben Bain. Jr., you got David Bailey, you got. Reese. Bailey's the more polished one. Reese, that's the potential, maybe the. next Micah Parsons. And then Bain, dog. in the pass game, dog in the run game, but the arm length is a question. Uh as. a tackle, which one of these young guys. do you see having the most success early. on and then probably having the best. career as it goes? Yeah, I mean, I think when you get into. the arm length conversation, I mean, it's really just like I've told you guys. before when it comes to tackles, it's. about what's their strategy outside of.
that. How do they execute those things. in the game, whether it be being able to. get hands off of them, being able to rip. and do some [clears throat] of those. things. I mean, you look at a guy like. Micah Parsons, people don't even. realize, I mean, he barely uses his. arms. He's just so good at being able to. manipulate his body, you know, much like. really good receivers who can you don't. get hit hard very often. Micah Parsons. is really good at being able to dodge. and dip and kind of slip all the. different hands that he gets from. tackles. He's really able to do that at. extremely high level, you know, whereas. you had like guys like Aaron Donald, he.
didn't have some crazy arm length, but. for his size, he had decent arm length, but he was unbelievably strong and good. at getting your hands off of him, being. able to knock your hands off of him. He. had a plan all the time. We seen him. fighting the knobs and everything else. So, you got to become an expert at what. it is that you think you need to be able. to execute. And so, when I look at those. guys, I mean, I just think when you. watch Payne play, man, just the effort, the energy, the passion. Like I just it. feels like a guy that you're like, man, inevitably this guy's going to figure it. out one way or another because it just. seems like he has a motor that's.
different and that's something to me. that means a lot. But, you know, obviously I think Bailey, some of those. guys have some rare top-end talent. where, you know, you got to see him rush. I think at the NFL level to really know. because to me, I I want to see your. ability where you look in college a lot. of times it's like, man, they beat him. with speed, the guy flips his hips, it's. over. You know, they they go dip. underneath or go underneath the guy like. that's not going to be NFL tackles. They're going to be in front of you and. you're going to have to have counter. answers to all your things that you. think you're going to be able to do. And. so,
really being able to see them their. rookie year, their ability to adapt and. counter. or be an expert at that one thing they. do. We think of Jared Verse, you know, really coming onto the scene with his. power. Then, he's going to have to adapt. We. seen last year not as much of an impact. at times because he's going to have to. adapt who he is and how he plays. And. so, I think when you look at these guys, their ability to adapt and their ability. to develop counters. is really going to dictate how good. they're going to be at the next level. Can't wait to see the next group of. super freaks out there. I mean, it's.
every single one That's why Trey. Hendrickson in that Ravens jersey. that debuted this weekend. Oh, yeah. It's just not what what you expect. No. It's a little bit of a It's a little bit. of a surprise. >> Looks like a raven if I've ever seen. one. That's a tough That's a tough. position. That's a tough You got to be so. explosive, so strong, so fast. Just the. fact. >> least favorite day ever. The uniform. day, the picture day, like I you know, I. just no, thank you. Look, [laughter] I. No, thank you. 8K cameras now. They got. 8K cameras now. Scream at the camera,
give us a raw raw so we can show you in. the stadium pumping [laughter] the fans. up. Like, I don't give a damn. Just play. Let's just play the game. I don't want. to do this. One of my favorite That was. my day. I was not I was not part of that. day. That was one of my favorites. It's. a selfish wet day. And I appreciate that. you backed out of those, genuinely. Uh. they only asked me to do it twice. And. they said, "Give me your football face.". I said, "All right. I'm not doing this.". And I was never invited back. You didn't. give them a good football face? No, I.
said I don't know what that means. I I. genuinely don't know what that means. He. said, "You know, like a football face.". I was like, "Okay. >> [clears throat]. >> I know what you're talking. Quarterbacks Quarterbacks can look cool, receivers can kind of like show the ball. and flash it, running backs can kind of. do the Heisman. Like, as a lineman, what's a cool stance Yeah. >> [screaming]. >> for a picture of you? Like, I'm in a. kick set? Like, that's cool and. intimidating? Like, NO, THANK YOU. >> [screaming]. >> I GUESS THAT IS. I DON'T GIVE A. THREE-POINT stance for anybody, damn it. Well, and also So, I'm not getting a. three-point stance for a photo. Three-point stance I.
It's the belly button on some of the. offensive linemen, too, with the way the. jersey is. Especially if you're moving. like this. I think you got to do a yell, right? You probably always had to do a. ha. Oh, you got to scream. Yeah, you got. to give a roar. No, thank you. Any pause. for the Bengal I mean, if they go if. they go white unis, you're totally. screwed. >> Oh, yeah. Uh that's just a tough look. for O-linemen. Yeah. Elevator buttons, bellies, I mean, we got it all. >> OH, WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THIS FOR. Thursday night. There's going to be so. many stupid videos that these guys are. going to be forced to shoot.
Oh, HEY, LOOK, HAVE FUN. YOU JUST GOT. DRAFTED. DREAM COME TRUE. PEOPLE behind. the camera trying TO WORK IT. YEAH. THEY'RE STANDING THERE. And then they do the full 360. Let's do. a full 3. 60 view of this guy. Spinning the football doing the casual. thing. I mean, that's what's coming on. Thursday night. There's going to be a. lot of big boys allegedly. Go ahead, Ty. Last question. Yeah, with I think it was. probably like 5 years ago where everyone. was saying that O-linemen in college. just weren't as good or weren't as ready. to come into the NFL with the way the.
college game has changed. But over the. last several years, we've had runs in. the first round where we'll we'll have. 10 plus O-linemen get drafted. Do you. think that's a byproduct of guys being a. little bit more, you know, a little bit. better now and more ready to come in and. play right away? Or is it just that as. we've seen, like it is impossible to. kind of keep the same guys on your. offensive line and you need to have at. least, you know, eight to 10 bodies in. that room who are capable because it's. just impossible to stay healthy. throughout the course of a season.
Yeah, I mean, you look at this draft. I. mean, they're talking anywhere six to. seven guys going in the first round. So, uh this is one of the more talented. groups, you know, as I've talked to some. guys across the league than in years. past. And so, I I think really one of. the things that's happened is is that in. in the O-line world outside of the NFL, outside of college football, whether it. be, you know, LeCharles Bentley or Duke. Manyweather or any of those guys that. are training guys, you're starting to. have these facilities where. >> Yep. Oh, yeah. AQ's now doing it. I saw. that. Like, you got a lot of these guys. that are now specifying in training guys.
outside of all of that. And so, I think. that's really what's had to happen. I. mean, I used to have this argument all. the time with the league when they would. come talk at our seminars about the flag. football push. Like, I love getting more. and people involved in football, but. like if we're going to eliminate. practices and preparation at the NFL. level, uh so linemen are getting less of those, and then also at a younger level we're. encouraging everyone else to play the. non-padded version of football, like. where are we ever going to get linemen. development? So, at the at the beginning. stage and at the ending stage, we're.
going to eliminate your ability to. prepare to could be become a lineman. So, where do you want them to develop. from? And so, they're one of the biggest. part of our game, they're what separates. our game and makes it different. And so, to me, uh I think what's really happened. is you've seen some guys be able to. specialize in training offensive. linemen, give them a home, somewhere to. go in the off season, somewhere to. develop in high school and junior high. and in college outside of just their. facility to go develop those skills that. it takes to be ready. And I think that. you're starting to see now the impact.
that's having, and you're having more. and more guys are able to come in, play. early, and be successful. And I think. we're starting to see a little less of. that dip that we kind of felt there. through those years, cuz I think you've. seen some guys coming in and play really. well as young linemen. So, uh I'm. excited about that, and I think that's. only going to continue to grow because I. think that's something a lot of guys. that are former players are getting into. and really seeing that this is a big. part of this thing now. With the NIL. money, with everything else, now even. linemen are making money in college, which is crazy, right? So, uh you know, that's the truth. Where there's money.
being given to players, there's going to. be people out there trying to create a. business that they can get some of it. So, I think that to me, now you've seen. the development of offensive linemen off. outside of just their facilities and. their teams is is growing, and so is the. impact it's having on us having more. productive guys being available in the. draft. >> I love the explanation, it makes sense. Cuz the drills that you have to do are. strenuous. Mhm. They are hard, they. suck. >> Only position in the world plays with. their back to the ball at all times, Pat. Not only that, also somebody trying to.
break your back every single play. Hand-to-hand combat every time. none. >> linemen do are like athletic movements. you do as a kid. Like nobody doing any. of that stuff. So it's the one thing. about it is it's not just like you're. you know, I'm not saying it's some crazy. athletic movement. What I am saying is. it's something you have to retrain your. entire body to do because it's not. something you did growing up. Most of. those body positions, most of the things. it takes to anchor and everything else. have to be learned over time and it's. not something you did growing up as as.
an athlete for most players. So. it takes a while, you know, you you go. with that thing of how many reps you get. and how many opportunities you have to. do something. It takes a while to. develop those skill sets. and so I think it's something very. unique and you can't get it by just. training with anyone. You need people. who are putting you in those positions. over and over again and I think that's. the biggest development is in strength. training and on the field. We're seeing. people adjust movements to what linemen. specifically do and that's helping them. develop. >> I love that. It's good for the game.
because when they dip, the game dips, we. dip. You know what I mean? And that's. really We can't be dipping anymore. Okay? We got to be striving, especially. for greatness with the boys bumping up. front. I do like that you shouted out. the shipyard there. Okay? The shipyard's. getting at All those drills suck. They. all suck to do. They're all hard, they're all miserable, they're not fun, but I'll tell you what, at the end of. the the road is a very green pasture. Centers are getting 30 million now. You. know, this is a the game is going. So.
I'm excited for it. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champ, Cincinnati Bengal. and LA Ram legend, LSU Tiger at heart, Andrew Whitworth. >> [singing]. >> I'll say we whenever I want. Damn right. >> Well, I'm talking. Why are you guys. attacking him? Because he doesn't live. in Ohio anymore? He lives in Los Angeles. and he gets sun? Don't don't lump me in. with people that are attacking him. You. know, Whit is like, you know, he was the. man there and he still is the man. I. think anytime he goes back. No, I. he he felt obligated to explain himself.
Number 10 sitting in the red suite with. Neil Armstrong. We could have really. nailed down on that and say, "Hey, did. you Neil, no, did you really Do you. think you actually really went to the. went to the moon like you did?". >> Yeah, if you wanted to get slugged in. the face, cuz that's usually how Neil. Armstrong deals with that, cuz he knows. it's not true. I'm genuinely flustered. about it all. About what? What do you mean? >> How crazy it is, like how. >> We're celebrating it hard here in 2026. >> As we should. >> FaceTime with my daughter when I'm. wherever. I could be in a place with no. service, okay? Somehow.
I can open my phone, it can have a. little glimmer of hope somehow, and I. can FaceTime with my daughter. That type of advancement in technology. is outlandish to think about back in the. day. And we were celebrating big time at. Artemis 1 up there in Denver. >> Well, they made that phone call, too, back then, right? Mhm. They had They had. phones, yeah. >> That's a direct line to the moon. >> Called to the moon. So, they had to do. the Yeah, the rotary, yep. Not NASA.
NASA didn't have to do that. But on that. note, way to way to do it back there in. 1969. >> That's right. That's incredible. Yeah, it is. Think about how incredible that. had to be in 1969. Kid me? That's like. whenever somebody just first created. like electricity. Who did that with the. key? Ben Franklin. >> Yep. There it is. Think about how pumped. they were when they found out that they. didn't have to just use the fire stuff. Like we can actually. >> it won a war. Like throughout. >> to the moon and it won a war. Yeah, the Cold War you're referring to? >> Yeah, I'm pumped we won that, yeah. >> Yeah. I'm certainly pumped we But they. even had to think to themselves over. there like, "Really? The moon?".
That's really far. >> Mhm. Holy [ __ ] They were just kind of. like captivated by it. They had to be. >> Yeah. Yeah. Good for us. And having like. the foresight for Neil Armstrong to be. like, "You know what? I'm going to bring. my golf bag up here." Smart. So, I can, you know, tee this up and hit like that, you know what I mean? I love [laughter]. that. I love that. Hey, I know there's a. lot of important [ __ ] in here. I need I. got a nice golf bag. I need that thing. to be total It's like, you know, in good. shape when we get up there. I want to. flush a four iron off the dark side of.
the moon. I love that. >> And that's how sports ties into this. Exactly. And that's why we always have. to talk about it because sports were. represented. >> They were? In outer space at the moon. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. the man who represents sports in a. beautiful way. We're so thankful that he. is now becoming basically full-time. analyst on ESPN for the NBA, especially. in the middle of this beautiful NBA. playoff run that started with A BUNCH OF. BORING ASS GAMES. >> YEP. AND DON'T LOOK NOW, MORE BORING IS. ON THE WAY. OH, NO. Or is it boring? Maybe we just don't know enough. Joining. us now, NBA champion, ladies and.
gentlemen, Iman Shumpert. Yeah, Shumpert. What's up, Shumpert? My guys, what's. going on? What do you got to I'll I'll bet I don't. know I don't know I don't know if it was. boring. I don't know if it was boring. We saw a lot of good stuff out there. I. don't know if it was boring. Okay, so. you're saying a lot of good highlights, a lot of good plays by the good teams, even though the good teams are beating. the bad teams, except for the Pistons. Let's talk about that right there. What. happened with Detroit? I know you were. high up on Detroit, obviously, whenever. the Hornets were potentially when the. Hornets were going to potentially get. their spot, you actually said, "Hornets, that's fun that's fun story. That's cute.
story. The Pistons were waiting on them. though." Now, I felt like the same type. of energy was being had with the Orlando. Magic. Is this a bad match-up for the. Pistons? What happened here? Not at all. I think that the Orlando. Magic have answered whatever issue that. we've had with them. Everybody was. questioning them. Everybody was pointing. fingers at them. The thing about the. Magic that I like so much right now is. most times when they are challenged in. the media, guys are challenged guys are. challenged by their coach, they all. crumble. I think they came together and.
they accepted the challenge. They have. come out and they've played passionate. They have played together. They have. played with a willingness to. communicate. You see their defense going. up and that's what I pay attention to. I. pay attention to all the bright spots. they have and then at the end of the. game, they got Franz Wagner who decided, "You know what? If Paolo Banchero can't. figure it out in these crucial times, I. know I can figure it out. And at the end. of that game, they played through him. and looked like a totally different. team. It will be interesting to see if.
game two, they do the same things and go. to Paolo Banchero early on. Let Bane. kind of, you know, determine how the. games go after that. And then at the. end, go to their closer in Wagner cuz. they look like a totally different team. when he had the ball in his hands. playing from the top. >> Okay, so if we had to give a. alert level for Pistons fans from 1 to. 10. One being A, no worries here. It's a. series. Don't Don't even worry about the. first game. If anything, you're the. number one seed. Detroit has a history.
of having massive success in the post. season. So, don't even worry about what. just happened there in game one. 10. being A, this is not good. This could be a. problem if this is what the Magic are. going to be doing. If you were a Detroit. Pistons fan, Well, I'm a Bulls fan. But, uh. I would say that they have about they. have about. uh. I'd say a five because this could be one. of two things. Detroit was sitting at. home, you know, not feeling like.
there's much of anything to do right. now. You know, you get stuck in that rut. of waiting on the playoffs. You're. excited, but there's no game. So, you. kind of lose a bit of rhythm. Uh looking. at a guy like Cade Cunningham, you're. not sure how it's going to go for him. You're looking at the rhythm. You're. looking at the steps. The Magic looked. like a team that just got done playing. That just got done with all those reps. and repetition. They've been in closing. matches. They've had the game where they. feel like, "Ah, we didn't come out. particularly well in that first play-in.
game. But, this second game, we really. got to take it up a notch." They felt. like this match up is for them. I think. they jumped on them early and they did. what all teams do, which is you're. supposed to go on the road and steal. one. What Detroit has to worry about is. saying, "Hey, we cannot let them steal. two." Stealing two changes the series. I. think stealing one, I kind of expected. them to not I expected Detroit to close. this one out. I'm not going to lie. Wagner, he he he definitely surprised me. toward the end. Uh I expected Detroit to close this out, but I would be nervous to say I don't.
want the Orlando Magic to say we figured. out the recipe for the end of games cuz. at the end of game sometimes they don't. close well. If they start playing. through Wagner, I think it changes. things a lot. Okay. Detroit is at a five. panic meter in Iman Shumpert's eyes. How's that make you feel, Foxy? He feels. like you were okay with the five. >> I'll take a five all day because I was. at a 10 for sure. As a fan, I watched. that game and I said, "The Magic were. supposed to be a top one, two, three. seed at the beginning of the season.". And they played like ass all regular.
season and I'm like, "Did they figure it. out? Is that team back? And is that who. we're playing right now as an eight. seed?" That's a problem. But Iman says. five, I'm good with that. >> What was the stat on how much. >> I'm only Go ahead, Shump. I'm only. saying I'm only saying that five because. you got to think, Cade is coming back, he's still finding his way. He took a. couple of tough shots that I felt like. not not what he usually does. Uh he kind. of was forcing the issue a little bit. more than I've seen him do in the past, but his is all about rhythm as we look. at it. The thing that I was nervous.
about with the Pistons was the legs, the. pop, the exaggerated defensive close. outs. You didn't see that out of the. Pistons yesterday and I think that's all. to do with them just not having a game. for a week. Seems like an eight or nine. panic meter in my eyes, but I'm not an. NBA champion. Our conversation with Iman. Shumpert continues digitally on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, TikTok Live, and. X. We can't thank you enough for. allowing us to do this for a living. Be. a friend, tell a friend, something nice, it might change your life. Goodbye.
I've Hey, I'm going to tell you, fresh. out of WrestleMania with whatever's. going on with my neck, I was too fast. for my own good earlier. So, that. hitting that right on the screws right. here. That one felt pretty good. Iman, I. don't know if you saw that. mean, just I. I mean right. I mean that that was a Hang curveball. Yeah, right there. Fresh out of what. just happened with this. I'm pretty. proud of myself. Okay, so you're not. that panicked about Detroit. I'd like to. hear that. And hopefully the Pistons. will win for your sake because Orlando. Magic fans, I don't even think they were. Orlando Magic fans during the playing.
game. So, the fact that you guys are. about to get beat by them potentially, that's that's a sad state of affairs up. there in Detroit. I don't like it. >> Just need the young guys to step up. That's all this is. Young team, need the. young guys to go. >> All right, number one overall seed, that's incredible news. Let's stay in. the East. Let's go to the state of Ohio. AJ has a question for you, Shawn. Yeah, Cavs are up one nothing. They play. tonight against the Raptors and with the. addition of James Harden, I guess what. have you seen from him? You know, they. acquired him earlier this year. What. have you seen from this Cavs team with. Harden? Obviously, we know what they're. able to do with Mitchell and the other.
talent around him, but what are the. chances of this Cavs team going on a. run? Uh I like the Cavs. Uh I think they're. just in a tough position dealing with. the top of the East. Uh Boston and. Detroit just scare me on their schedule. The The New York Knicks scare me on. their schedule. Uh they have matchups. that they can win. Uh but when I look at the Cavs, I just. see a Donovan Mitchell that is. benefiting so much from James Harden. And it's not just when James Hard- James.
Harden rewards him with uh an assist. It's not just when he comes off of a. ball screen. It sometimes it's just the. attention that that James Harden. commands when he has the ball or he's on. the floor allows people to have to be in. a single coverage a lot of the time. against Donovan Mitchell. Even if just. for two dribbles. Donovan Mitchell is. extremely dangerous if left in single. coverage where you have something else. to worry about cuz it's a it becomes a. pick-your-poison type of situation. I.
think James Harden is also doing a great. job in pitching ahead and making people. dangerous earlier on in the shot clock. before getting it back, which makes you. always have to deal with him in a. closed-out situation, uh which we've seen doesn't benefit. anybody when he goes to that dribble. package and wants to get up uh quick. three or a three that can potentially. land in somebody getting another foul. and a four-point play. I really like. them. It's just the top of the East is. tough, and the top of the East is tough. defensively with multiple people that.
can guard in the backcourt. Right now, what you're seeing is James Harden and. Donavan Mitchell may be too much for the. Toronto backcourt. >> Okay, let's talk about the top of the. East and uh the backcourts. Uh you were at the Knicks game, I heard, courtside. Were on the wood at your. bopping wood you're bopping wood at the. game, I heard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was there, man. Shout-out to the New York Knicks, man. Organization always take care of a. former players, man. It was a good game. Yeah, I mean, I got canceled out of uh. courtside tickets over there at Madison. Square Garden directly from the top, which I completely understand and.
respect and appreciate. But you were. there, boots on the ground, obviously on. the wood. What do you think about this. Knicks team? We got a real deal? Cuz. whenever they're playing the Pacers last. year, that guy right there, Jalen. Brunson, they're they would become just. like periods where it felt like it was. an hour and a half of my life where I'd. see that guy with the ball and he. wouldn't miss. Just like refuse to miss, basically. How do you feel about this. Knicks team maybe making a run this year. again? Uh I like it. Uh I I told everybody. early on in the season that I felt like. the New York Knicks had the East. Uh it.
didn't seem like anybody else had. anything that, you know, screamed on their roster that. they should be doing this. The Boston. Celtics were a pleasant surprise. The. Detroit Pistons were a a pleasant. surprise. But we all looked at the. Knicks, especially with that run that. they made last year and all the. decisions and moves that they made to. put that team together. They are built. to win the East, and there was a lot of. pressure on them. The reason I enjoyed. watching them is because Jalen Brunson.
got off to a quick start. He didn't. control flow and made sure to share the. sugar. I thought he picked a lot of. spots to just turn down moments that. we're used to seeing him aggressive. Moment that we're used to seeing him. take 20 and 30 dribbles in one. possession and forcing the issue a. little bit more, but he deferred. They. kept running that blast action getting. Cat involved on that pinch post letting. two cutters go by. You know, Cat. overthrew a couple of them, but you saw. him throwing that late pass down the. lane to a lot of guys and getting guys.
involved and I felt like when he stayed. involved within direct action, it led to. him having enough rhythm at the end to. say, "Hey, I could turn it on." Which is. where you saw him get to his mark uh. scoring the ball. But, the Knicks played. to their ability right now. I just think. at the end of games we need to be able. to trust in that two-man game. Uh there's times that they don't score. well together and I just want to make. sure that at the end of games we don't. go away from that because once you have. a two-man game where everybody knows. it's coming, you got to then raise the.
question, can anybody stop it? Iman saying, "Hey, let's not get stupid. here like we do every single [ __ ]. year.". Okay, let's. >> Here we go. Let's continue to okay. They. say you get tired, but I say we're not. running any two-man, we don't have any. threat of anything down the stretch. basically. So, that's what you're saying. right now basically? Yeah, I think it it really comes down to. X's and O's. The Knicks play hard enough. to keep themselves in the conversation. It's always a two-three possession game. down the stretch. There's never Rarely. do you see them just give up and lay.
down. Uh the Knicks go out there and. they compete and that's, you know, half. the battle. They're they're they're not. great defensively, but they're still. sound. Uh I think they make a lot of. moments up that, you know, other other. teams have shot blockers that are, you. know, in a higher frequency. I think. Mitchell Robinson is just, you know, dealing with some tough stuff right now. They already started to hack a hack a. Robinson early. uh you know, just to get get out the. game, but that's all it all comes within. strategy. I think that the Knicks just. really need to just, you know, relax in.
the pocket of saying, "We're going to. hang our hat on the defensive end, which. we knew they would dealing with their. head coach and his history. You're going. to hang your head on the defensive end, but if you're going to lose at the end, you're going to lose with your guys that. you went to go get." It needs to be. Jalen Brunson and Cat. You need to be. able to put pressure on them and say, "If we lose, we lost our way." And. that's all I'm asking for. Good luck to the Knicks. Guys, make it a. long way and then fire your coach. Okay?
And then. the Pacers Pacers, we were game seven of. the finals. Mhm. We're in the lottery now. It's a quick. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. It is a quick. >> Oh, yeah. It is a very real thing. So, the fact that the Knicks are always in. it, I think if I was a Knicks fan, would. make me excited. Bruce, who's a die-hard. Knicks fan, obviously excited for this. team this year, it sounds like. >> Oh, yeah. Much much better than last. year. Like, we are much improved in the. Mike Brown era. A lot of it is the X's. and O's offensively. I think the Knicks. were like 22 and 12 against winning.
teams this season. They were 12 and 22. last year, and there was all that talk. about how they can't can't compete with. the top of the NBA. You know, that narrative's out. We're. we're ready to roll. Let's go to the top. of the East, shall we? Ty has a question. for you. >> Yeah, Shump. So, I know we're talking. about the Knicks a lot, and that's. great. But, I mean, >> [laughter]. >> you watch the Celtics, and it looks like. Tatum you know, nothing ever happened to. him. He's completely fine. He almost has. a triple-double the other night. Brown. is doing what he's been doing all. season. You got Luka Garza just. absolutely filling up the bucket off the.
bench. And they just beat the [ __ ] out. of the 76ers. Oh, yeah. How like, I guess as if you're. playing on the Celtics, how difficult is. it to kind of stay engaged in this. series when you probably know you're. just going to beat the [ __ ] out of them. You're kind of looking to who you have. next. And ultimately, it I mean, can. anyone in the East beat the Celtics? I. know we're talking about the Knicks a. bunch here, but just watching these guys. play, it just seems like they are much. better than everyone else in the Eastern. Conference.
Yeah, uh they they definitely look head. and shoulders above right now. I I I. can't act like that I don't feel the. same. I think everything changes with a. match-up. We expected them to look this. way against a Philly team that didn't. feature Joel Embiid. Uh we all. understand why they beating the [ __ ] out. of these people right now. It's not a. lay-down thing. It's not a X's and O's. They don't have their big brother. around. It's easy to beat up on the. little brother when the big brother. ain't there. So, that's what's happening. right now. It's It's not that the the.
Celtics wouldn't already go out there. and have their way. They We forget that. this team is built for success. This was. the blueprint. This is what OKC mimicked. saying, "We're going to go 10 guys deep. We're going to live and die by the. three, but we're also going to get up. and pressure." Then they became the DNA. They became the blueprint. We'll see if. they repeat. But, Boston has always had. the DNA of that. They'll switch players. and they'll go get other players, but. they usually gets get players that mimic. the way they play. And they play the. same way all the time. Anytime you play. that consistent, it becomes incredibly.
difficult, especially now that they have. Tatum feeling like he's back into that. superstar bounce. It was good to see him. really lift off of that leg and really. trust. He took a couple of long steps. within traffic. Anytime I see him trust. it like that, that's always a really. good thing as a Boston Celtics fan. How. he has responded post-Achilles has been. spectacular to watch, especially as. somebody who has a quarterback who's. going through an Achilles recovery who. got done by the same doctor, I do. believe. That's great news for the. Colts. But, for the Boston Celtics, not.
only Tatum just picking right up where. he left off. Mazzulla's a psycho, but. also from my understanding, you guys. brought in a secret weapon this late. into the season, Connor. >> Yeah, last week a lethal shooter came to. town. And you could say that he had a. great effect because I don't think a. basketball touched a rim on any of their. shots in the first quarter. It was one. of the most impressive displays of. shooting I've ever seen. >> Iman, is that You know lethal shooter, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. How is he not on a [ __ ]. team? And [laughter] then also, is he Is.
this coach He literally went and coached. the Celtics. >> Yeah, he was the He was there for those. few days off after the end of the. season. Okay, can't wait to get him in here, okay, cuz we're never going to miss, seemingly. But what is it Is that a new. specialty that people are like. I've never seen a guy miss. I mean, first time, then he understands. it. >> Sure. >> Then then I see him make. >> It's the internet, all right. Don't. Don't ask Shump why is Why isn't this. guy in the NBA? >> [laughter]. >> Come on, now. We see a lot of gimmicks. on the internet. I Hey, I think it's a. whole Don't YOU BE [ __ ] LAUGHING AT. THE LETHAL SHOOTER, EITHER.
I like the lethal shooter. >> Go look up lethal You could go look up. lethal in college, now. He ain't no just. He ain't no just a goofball like Oh, no, he Oh, no, he got a real clip on him, though. Like, it's for real. Like, he. could have went He could have went It's. just that you got to remember a lot of. things in the. the NBA, there's a ton of guys that. didn't make it because the situation. didn't fit. It's like, if they were to come out of. college 2 years later, the league kind. of changed, and they were a perfect fit. And some guys just missed it by a year,
missed it by 2 years. It's a lot of. different times that that happens. If. somebody needed a shooter coming out of. college when he was coming out, if. somebody really needed him, and they. gave him a shot, why can't he be a. Anthony Morrow type player? You know. what I mean? It You got to really think. about it like, he's not one of those. guys that I would call. internet guy. Because I know a bunch of. guys that are internet guys. Hey, Shump, look it up. Okay, thank you. Lethal shooter, hell yeah. Yes. And. thank you for the years of.
entertainment. And the ingenuity to make. a shooting a basketball into something. it could be the When he started debuting. the spiked rim. >> Oh, man. I was like, oh, this fucker's. on to something, dude. This This going. to start doing something. Then him and. Red Bull started doing some crazy [ __ ]. shooting on the moon. I think he was in. a helicopter at one point. >> Gummy bear. Yeah, the gummy bear into. the bottle. I understand it now. You do? Yeah, I'm happy to hear that. I think the Celtics do too, which is. kind of an issue. Let's go to the West, shall we go ahead, Connor? Yeah, Sean, but it felt like the one good series we. were going to get was going to be. Rockets-Lakers and there was actually a.
video posted of Kevin Durant not missing. in warm-ups. And then the NBA sent someone to bang. his knees so that Luka could get back. sooner rather than later and kind of. extend this series. Not sure what the hell happened there, but what did you see in Rockets-Lakers? LeBron back to his same old antics. I. think he had 13 assists in game one, so. he's dealing the ball as well. Do you. see this one going seven or once, you. know, Luka gets back, is this thing all. she wrote? Um.
I don't know. Cuz I didn't I I honestly. I didn't expect even the three days in. between games. I ain't going to lie to. you. I I It's a lot [laughter] of stuff. It's a lot of stuff involved. with seeing if we going to see 77 put. the jersey on. But I think it went. exactly how I thought it would go. Okay. To dare come out there without KD. I think off sheer disrespect alone,
LeBron was going to ensure that however. it needed to get done, it was going to. get done. Luke Kennard came out there. and played, you know, amazing and having. his playoff season high. Uh. I I thought Deandre Ayton got out there. and got involved exactly how he should. Just be efficient, play around the rim, don't make any excuses, have some pep in. your step. He went out there and gave us. all we wanted to see. Uh Marcus Smart went out there and did. exactly what I feel like he's supposed.
to do in playoff form. He doesn't get a lot of credit for a lot. of the intangible things that he does, but he does them. Uh but uh the Lakers. went out there and did what I thought. they were going to do. I don't expect. much out of Houston without KD out. there. We saw how much their field goal. percentage, their three-point PERCENTAGE. >> WHOA. I I heard. that if LeBron. beats this Houston team Mhm. with what. is currently set up for the Lakers, the goat discussion is over. Yeah.
>> That's what Perk said. And uh now it's. happening. Now we got a guy Chicago. Bulls jerseys all around his [ __ ]. office, okay? All over the place saying. he's supposed to beat this team. He's. supposed to beat Houston. Talking about you. I'm talking about. >> [laughter]. >> I'm talking. about you. >> I get it. I I get it. Perk puts a lot of. pressure on them and they. >> [laughter]. >> they. I get it. I get it. Hey man, it's all. great for TV.
>> [laughter]. >> Uh. if KD don't play. Yeah. against. If he don't play, uh Bron will dog walk. this [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> Like All right. Okay. Good. I'm I'm I'm. being I'm being 100% serious though. It's not going to be like this. dominating version of LeBron, but Bron's. best attribute is his basketball mind. He does matchups better than anybody. that we've seen. Uh and that's from. matching up as a team, uh who gets to shoot on what side of the.
court, what percentages will work out in. his head. That's what he's good at. So, KD better get healthy. If KD's not healthy and Houston has to. manufacture points in a brand new way. that they haven't done all year when. they've gotten comfortable doing. everything as same going being the. second option, like we're not going to still have that. anymore. You telling me that people can. now tilt and load up on my side of the. floor and none of those driving lanes. are available. I did not like what I saw.
out of Houston. uh Kevin Durant. And so if they're going. to put that pressure on Bron, I don't. know how it makes him the goat. Uh, Michael Jordan is still bald with baggy. shorts. It's cool. Don't even worry. about that. But, it is a very important. series when you break down that Kevin. Durant just sat out the game one. Like, for Kevin Durant to sit out that game. and give the Lakers a taste of. just it it it really just gave them a. deep breath to take because I was.
worried they wouldn't even get a game. I thought they would just run them run. them run them run them and they wouldn't. get a game. KD sits out, it changes. things. It changes things. I hope KD is. okay. Hope we get a good series out of. that. And I'm appreciative of the fact. that. LeBron's the goat, man. Hey, listen, I. guess he's going to have to win five. NASCAR races. Yeah. Yeah, true. >> Okay, LeBron's going to have to win five. now. Feels like Michael Jordan and his. team are starting to figure out the. NASCAR thing. Oh, yeah. He's got to win. that deep sea fishing championship. >> True. That yeah, with a marlin. I think.
he's got to go catch a big marlin out. there. He's going to have to get a. couple good golf courses. >> Sell more shoes. >> Great golf for you. >> Yeah, a lot more shoes. Sell a lot more. shoes. >> Going to have to sell a lot more shoes. But if he's just. carrying the Lakers at the age of 41, oh, there's a real combo happening all. of a sudden, isn't it? Seems like. there's a real. >> Oh, yeah. He's the best He's the best. far as the longevity of a career, being. a professional on and off the court. Of course. He's Yeah, yeah. I I He He the goat in a. lot of different conversations. I.
totally understand. It's just. that black that that that black 23, man. That black 23 was different. >> [laughter]. >> Got a lot of his shoes here. I got a lot. of his shoes here. I got a. >> Man, he was different, man. He was. different. >> Yeah, yeah, that's what they said. I was. watching The Last Dance and he certainly. was. He was different. But I I you know, I'm. a Chicago kid. Who knows? I could have. you know, I could have grew up in Ohio. and then Bron would be the goat. I could. have grew up in Detroit and Bron would. have been the goat. You know what I. mean? I hated on Kobe's greatness for.
the longest just cuz I wasn't from LA. Then I realized I was the fan the whole. time cuz I know way too much about Kobe. Bryant to be acting [laughter] like I'm. not a fan. I do like how sports creates that. though. I mean that's a real thing that. happens in sports that doesn't happen. anywhere else. So, I appreciate our. sports world more and more every day. Last dance. I think I could play in the NBA in. whenever Jordan was playing. Okay, I. want to let you know that I. I think I could play in that NBA. You. give me 6 months, I think I could.
potentially get the handles to get into. that NBA. We're only watching. >> know, man. EMON, THEY WERE DRIBBLING THIS WAS THE. BEST TEAMS, RIGHT? All those things were. all playoff runs. So, those were the. teams that were in the playoffs. So, I'm. assuming. >> that's how I get it? You think that's. how That's how we beat Gary Payton? You think they were dribbling like that? You thought You think Portland was. dribbling like that? >> NO, THE BOTTOM OF THE LEAGUE. >> YOU THOUGHT? UTAH was dribbling like. that? John Stockton was dribbling LIKE. THAT? OKAY. NOW, >> JOHN STOCKTON WAS COMING OFF THE ball. screen putting nail in coffin with Karl.
Malone, [laughter] buddy. We wasn't even close TO WINNING THAT. GAME. KARL MALONE AND JOHN STOCKTON HAD. ME FEARING FOR MY LIFE. >> [laughter]. >> THANK YOU, SEAN. >> MY LIFE. >> ALL RIGHT, I understand. I understand. >> Y'ALL GOING TO STOP DISRESPECTING OLD. SHAWN KEMP WITHOUT HIM PUNISHING PEOPLE. AT THE RIM. [laughter]. BOTTOM OF THE LEAGUE. I'M TALKING WORST. TEAM. I'M TALKING WORST TEAM. >> DON'T DO THAT. DON'T DO THAT. DON'T do. that. >> 18 teams in this league right now. 18 teams IN THIS LEAGUE RIGHT NOW. THEY. TRYING TO GET COLLEGE PLAYERS. THEY.
BETTING ON EIGHTH GRADERS. THEY GOING TO. [laughter] GET EIGHTH GRADERS RIGHT NOW. THEY THINKING ABOUT THE FRESHMAN IN HIGH. SCHOOL SAYING, "When is he going to be. available?" THEY TRADING FOR THAT. That's what I'm saying. >> That's in the league every year. We had. to beat [ __ ] Like we not going to act. like the Bulls. Like why we always. acting like the Bulls they had to do. what they HAD TO DO. >> [laughter]. >> LET ME GET THAT APPLE BOY. >> [laughter]. >> THEY LIKE OH IT WAS LATE MAGIC.
HEY. HEY CONGRATS TO THE BOYS. Congrats to. the boys. Thanks for what you did for. basketball. UH. AND MICHAEL JORDAN thank you for what. you did to basketball. I would like to. say that. We beat Charles. We beat. Charles. Charles still mad about it. No, people will throw that in Charles' face. all the time though. I think that's. probably why he doesn't LIKE IT. THAT'S. CHARLES. HE PISSED ABOUT IT. HE SUPPOSED. to be a champion. Not for that ball guy. there that two three over there. That. what I'm saying. That's why we talk. about this. Y'all talking about the. bottom of the league. I don't care about. the bottom of the league. It's the. bottom. >> [laughter].
>> True. The top. What's it? Michael. Jordan. I mean also kind of the. international I mean for what's. happening right now in the NBA. I mean. it's Michael Jordan. Yeah. Good man. Pretty great. Hey you. seeing you in this neck brace is so. concerning Pat. If I must say so myself. man. >> [laughter]. >> You can't be letting them do that to you. dog. Everybody seemed like everybody. even on the way out the fans were saying. things that were making the injury. worse. Oh my lord they went on my boy. Oh they. >> [laughter]. >> oh they got my boy. Yeah man it was bad.
day. It was bad day. Shorty seen that thing. explode. Nobody That table could have. never guessed a [ __ ] jelly roll is. going to be coming on there. Oh my lord. Of the three which was the worst? Was. the jelly or You. >> Yeah that one was. To be clear none of them were. >> Or the RKO. This was uh this that guy. just said something very rude to me you. know and then I wondered about my mom. watching at home and if she thought I. was going to be okay. So I was like I. got to give her a okay. Are those. license paramedics? And then obviously that's for everybody.
here you know just one of those. [laughter]. Uh that was Kota. Yeah Kota's a licensed. Las Vegas paramedic. Uh he's. >> Good save. He's a good man. He talked me. down a lot and then he was the one that. all. Jesus Eamon did you see that? DID YOU. SEE [laughter] THAT? THAT'S SO GOOD. That what I'm saying, but. that's a dangerous Oh, man. YEAH. OH, NO. >> [screaming]. >> THAT'S MY BOY. >> YEAH, HE MINE. I WOULD HAVE WENT on the stretcher after. that one. That's the stretcher. >> That was before. THAT WAS RIGHT BEFORE.
I mean, I went right to to the table. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, you just got right up too. Like. Yeah, that's I'd have been I'd have been. asked for my neck brace and my. stretcher. I'd have Yeah. I didn't ask. for anything, Emon. Okay, they sent out. what they thought I needed and I'll get. my scans back tomorrow. Thank you. Then. I came down and thinking I think I could. count one, two, three. LOOK, RANDY, THAT'S MY GUY. >> [screaming]. [laughter]. >> THAT'S SATURDAY NIGHT, EMON. JEEZ. THAT'S SATURDAY NIGHT. >> RANDALL. HEY. OH, MAN. YEAH, then I went.
I'll tell you what though, I didn't let. it slow me down afterwards, did we? No, not at all. I went and gambled. I played. a lot of blackjack. I went to a. nightclub. I felt like a 95-year-old man. in a nightclub. I went and saw 50 Cent. We had a good time watching 50. It was. like a trip back in time. >> Tyrese looks like he's having a great. time. Tyrese was having a good time. I I. I will say Tyrese was having his. WrestleMania moment. Yeah, he was a good. guy. >> spirit. [laughter]. You said. >> That's fine. >> Do you guys have shingles now? I'VE. NEVER. >> NO, THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WORKS. OH, [ __ ]. ACTUALLY, I'm not sure. We will We will. find out.
Uh Tyrese, you're in on Tyrese. >> Oh, yeah, never been more in on Halle. Kidding me? Absolutely. He had a great. performance. >> Oh, yeah. He had a great performance, I. will say. Through all Through multiple. settings. Tyrese had a great performance in all of. them. It would have been nice if Kittle. would have just let him drink that beer. Well, Kittle and him work in a gimmick. right there, too. I like that. >> Kittle had a lot of beers. I would say. Yeah, good stuff. Yeah, Kittle Kittle. had a lot of beers, I will say. He's. coughing, he's thirsty. Is that what. he's selling there? I don't know. Uh. here's that beer. Kittle says, "Give me. that." Emon, this could be you next year.
at WrestleMania. Let George Kittle chug. your beers. I think the beer relatively. affordable. Really? I think so. I just. don't know I don't know if I'm going to. make it if the playoffs is on. There's. some good stuff [laughter] going on, bro. I don't know. I don't know if I can. do that over the playoff. I watch the I. watch the recap, though. I watch the. recap. >> Watch the clips. I get it. I understand. what you're saying. Uh let's I get the. clips. I got to watch the game live, dog. It's some good [ __ ] out here. Yeah, you're right. And there's an alien. playing currently in the West. Go ahead, D-Budge. >> Yeah, while we kind of still talk about. the goat combo, MJ, Bron, Wemby is kind.
of like the first player I've seen since. Bron kind of has that goat potential on. both sides of the court. Now, he just. had his playoff debut last night. He. dropped 35. You know, they pretty much. handled the Trail Blazers wire to wire. But what's your expectations for him now. and going forward? Cuz watching him, Steph, Cass, I'm like, man, this this. this team can can be on a real run right. here. What's your thoughts on Wemby and. the Spurs? Uh I like him. I like him. I think if. anybody has something to say about the. OKC Thunder repeating, it's going to be. the Spurs. Uh.
the only other way I can see it is the. Boston Celtics just. um. becoming becoming a better match-up. throughout the seven-game series. I. think it'll take them a couple games to. figure it out, but Boston can always. pose the question, I feel. But coming. out of the West especially is important. for them because they are the only team. that can match-up with the OKC Thunder. And it is because they have an. exceptional athlete in Victor. Wembanyama, and they have a a great.
backcourt that defensively can probably. one of the only backcourts that can. match-up with OKC. It's just OKC is so. deep a team. Man, it's so much pressure, so much all the time. Uh I can't put any. expectation. on the Spurs, but I can say that I'm. very excited for them. I'm not going on. the hill with Perk and saying that. they're going to win their first time. around, cuz I do you know, I go with the.
the game and the history of the game. And it says that he's too young. He. needs his heart broke. So. Thunder up. >> he's going to need a Yeah, he's going to. need a heartbreak. He's going to need a. heartbreak and I think the Thunder are. going to be the ones to do it. >> I can't wait to see what the off-season. looks like if Wemby goes through a. heartbreak. He might write an album. Yeah, he might. He might write He might. write an entire music album. >> Or or or he gained that 20 lbs that. Giannis wanted to gain. You remember. when Giannis gained the 20 lbs and came. back and we were like, "Wait, how do we. stop that?". He was just He was just Bambi. He was.
the deer in headlights, falling all. around. You could push Giannis in his. hip and he'd fly out of bounds. So, he. kind of would miss a lot of his. finishes. And then he got real strong. And them hips got tight and all of a. sudden it was pop and he was in the air. on top of everybody's head. It's like, "Does Wemby get that weight or does he. stay nimble?" Cuz I also like him being. elusive. He's kind of slithery how he. gets by people. Yeah, it's time to He. had a behind-the-back there at 7 What? How tall is he? 7'4". >> 7'4". >> Fast. >> Yeah, like is he going to I want to know.
does he stay Kevin Durant-ish or does he. start going more toward the Giannis. body type? It would be interesting to. see on how he works on his body. But the. sky's the limit for this dude. The way. he competes on both sides of the floor. is exceptional. Even the way he talks. about basketball, the way he embraces. challenges. He is so good for the. basketball world. >> Hey, is that what you guys used to do. like. after a whistle was blown and somebody. would try to take a shot at a hoop, guys.
started blocking those shots, right? Then I think it was. >> KG rule. KG KG started blocking them. Can't get it. No free bucket here. Then. AI, I think I think he threw one like. what? >> moon, yeah. Yeah, people are having to. shoot like that against Wemby. Like that. little floater right there [laughter]. looked reminded me of when AI was trying. to steal the Yeah. the the extra shot or. whatever. It's insane. Like that's a. whole new style of. >> thing. Yeah. That's another thing we've. talked about. He takes away the floater. Sometimes people have tried to do that.
and he still blocks it. Like right here, that's a unorthodox floater. Like nobody. should have to float that high. You. shouldn't have to extend your arm that. early. I'm That is wow. Yeah, a floater. It's like You know those You know that. You know that dog You know when the dogs. do the dock jumping? And they like chase a ball that's going. out there? Like I wonder how high you. could put one for Wemby. Like if it was. Like if it was volleyball. Volleyball. they'll like set it high. Tell somebody. go get it. 14 ft. How high could Wemby.
get if he had to go get one? >> Unbelievable. If he had to, right? If he. had to go get one. If he had to go do. it. >> If he had Cuz like in practice we won't. get it ever, I don't think. Like if it. was a game No reason. How high can he. >> However high that was right there. I. think he could have kept going. >> Unbelievable. That's unbelievable. But. that's the The other thing about it is. he's got some He's got some strong. hands. He gets a fingertip on a lot of. these shots. Sometimes people are. throwing passes and just his finger.
alone changes the direction. A lot of. times it'll change the spin of the ball. It'll It'll It'll ricochet a little bit, but when he seems to get a deflection, it's always a total redirection of the. ball. I can only imagine that his hands. are stronger than they appear. I I You. could probably ask Obi Obi he slapped. him dead on the back doing that back. behind the back move right there. But. the the cool thing that. the. Portland Trail Blazers are going to have. to realize that Jrue Holiday is going to.
benefit from this the most. I'm excited. to see game two. They have to. reestablish in their mind that there is. a lost art of the mid-range jumper. The. mid-range jumper cannot go away when you. play this team. And I say that to say. you have to be able to go off of a ball. screen. You have to be able to put their. defender on the hip. Then you're going. to have to be able to play within that. flirting range of can he block it or can. he not block it? When you shoot that.
mid-range jumper, sometimes Wemby bites. If he bites and goes for the contest, you now have somebody that has a. offensive rebounding lane. If you don't. do that and you go for the bait and. think that you could just leave it on. the rim with a floater, you get you deal. with the results that we just saw. Okay, we got a mid-range the [ __ ] out of the. alien down there in San Antonio. Good. luck to all parties trying to do that. Iman, thank you for making time for us, man. You're the best. Yes, sir. Thank. y'all, man. We would like some more. non-biased punditry, though. Yeah, right.
down the middle. Oh, you know. Hey, frozen. That's weird, interesting. Live. [laughter] from Stump Street, Iman. Shumpert. Thank you. I'll tell you what, he was ready to go. to war right there for them Bulls. Yeah, always. Made some good points. He did. bring up some good stuff. I still think. I I my answer was never I could have. been on one of the ass teams, down to. bottom. I think. I could have been on. one of the ass teams. Probably Pacers. I. wish we could throw you out there and. see. Maybe you find out the same way you. just found out about the business. >> [laughter].
>> Uncalled for. I don't know if I'm. getting Crossroads, Jelly Roll, and N. RKO'd. >> [laughter]. >> Maybe I'm the one doing that. They had. the Jordan rules. Bad boys they had to get through. Laimbeer and them boys. Rodman. Okay, so. that's the Troy. Okay, that's what I'm. saying. Bad boys. You guys are talking. about like four teams. >> The playoffs. I'm not I'm not I'm not. I'm not saying that. I'm saying first. game of the season, worst team. I'm on. the [ __ ] The Knicks. Washington. Bullets. I'm yeah, Flint Tropics. I'm on the Flint Tropics. How many. points you putting up? How many points. you got to score to get I'm defensive. specialist. I'm passing that thing.
Yeah, I might hit a three and D. definitely. I'm bopping wood out there. I'm talking about the Flint Tropics. Okay, that's what I'm talking about. And. NBA kind of has always only been. four four to eight teams if you think. about it. I'll tell you, people do not. like the way this season has gone with. the obvious good, obvious bad. I don't. know how they fix it. I'm excited to. hear. There was something that Adam. Silver uh this weekend there was a rumor. or something. I forget what it was. [ __ ]. [ __ ]. Tier, maybe Ryan Smith said something.
about it. Like a tier. Like if you. qualify to be a part of it as opposed to. having to outright, you could like. qualify for that particular like are you. rebuilding or I forget how he worded it. It's like I like that they're trying to. figure it out, but every game being a. six-point spread. obviously basketball it's only two shots. whatever the case. It's still like oh. yeah, they had a 45 and a half points. per game. >> all time. >> It's like that's not good. >> it's the playoffs. The Celtics are. favored by 14 points. Yeah, so it's like. how do teams get better and then now. they're doing expansion?
I don't know, it's all fascinating. It's. all interesting. I guess content is. content and events are events. If you. can sell tickets to an event, people. will go to event. Okay, like here in. Indiana, Indianapolis, people will go to. Pacer games if they have friends in. town. What is there going on on Tuesday? Oh, we can go to a Pacer game. Let's go. to a Pacer. So it's a live event. I get. that. But from a watching in like buying. in perspective, sometimes it's. hard to know who who's. who's trying now. Playoff basketball though. Yes. Everybody wants a piece. Oh yeah. Even. the Orlando Magic are trying to take a.
little bite out of that. Uh-huh. They're. going right into Detroit and smack them. right in the mouth. Got all the people. in Detroit already given up hope on. their number one seed Detroit Pistons. >> They should. What? They should give up hope. >> I don't give up hope yet. But to counter. your point, the Pistons were bad for. like 10 years, couple good draft picks, boom, they flip the switch. Same with. the Spurs. They were horrible for years, couple good draft picks, they flip the. switch. So I assume that's what Adam. Silver's going to pitch to everyone. And. that's Ryan Smith's problem. Ryan Smith.
last week was like, "Hey, like we've. been bad for a while and we haven't. moved up in the lottery. That's a. problem." And so it's hard to get better. when you don't do that. >> He said we're in a good spot though. We. have gotten to the point now where we. will Yes. be going. He said but there's. other teams that are hey, don't look now. There's other teams that. are about to be trying to do what we. basically just kind of got on the tail. end of and all these other teams. It's. been a known system, I guess, in the. >> Just pulling into the pits right now. That's what he's, you know, talking. about pit stops and takes 4 years to to. get back out onto, you know, pit lane.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, to. help. uh in the current situation to maybe. give a prognostication on what is. currently happening as we await my. scans, which will be returned tomorrow. morning, uh former NFL doctor, obviously, uh. founder of the Central Injury uh PFI, is. it? Pro Football Injury? Yeah. Sports Injury Central. >> Yes. Oh, there it is. SIC. Uh which I. did not get to see the video of mine if.
they did one, but we are asking for. [laughter] it now, ladies and gentlemen, Dr. David Chao. >> Yeah. Doc, what's going on, Doc? So, We'll. give you We'll give you a live live. recap of this. I'll My question for you. is harder hit, Jelly Roll on you or you. taking a hit in the NFL? >> Okay, good question. I think uh in the. NFL, I blacked out um mentally, didn't. really remember the thing. Uh for the. Jelly Roll one, my whole body stopped. working. I don't know if you saw it. It. was uh it just couldn't really operate. it for whatever reason. So, I think. there's maybe some nerve You see my head.
bobbing there? My head bobbed back and. forth there. So, maybe it's a nerve. I. Obviously, I don't I can't have anything. broken here, right, Doc? It just But it. wasn't just this. Yeah, remember I got. the crossroads, which is a lot of. ripping on the neck. Uh so, I GOT BOOM. OKAY, THAT? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. WHIPLASH. >> know if that potentially did anything. either there, Dr. David Chao. He's right. back up there. I'm a [ __ ] cat. And. then boom, watch this, Doc. AND TWISTY WOOHOO. OH. OKAY, could be. whiplash as well cuz I'm coming to a.
complete stop, but also he's he's raking. on my neck right there. And then to kind. of cap it all off, after I do a 75-yard. sprint with the neck brace on because. who knows, it's a lot of pain, I get. this ONE I DEVASTATING BANG. RIGHT. THERE. I mean, doc. in my mind with how it's feeling, especially after Go. Go. Go. Go. Go.
And if any man did wish death upon me. >> Yeah. and blood in my body. And I can't. see. So, I I don't know if I've been. treating it perfectly, but I have had. this on. We're getting the scans back. tomorrow. What do you expect that I'm. going to hear whenever I see these scans. between a C2 and a C5, doc? Well, look. I hope it's going to be good. news. Look, you certainly strained your. neck. You certainly took a lot of force. on it. I'm actually surprised you didn't. break a rib with that jelly roll thing.
and so forth, but you're playing hurt. You're playing hurt today for the fans. It's all good. >> Okay, so what is projected recovery here. with potential broken rib? Actually, I. don't even thought about that. Now that you mention it. >> Yeah, a little bit. >> I do feel a little. little tenderness A little queasy. Yeah. Couldn't tie your shoe cuz of that. Yeah, I couldn't get down there. I didn't even think about my rib. Maybe. we should get that scanned as well. Maybe a hairline fracture in there. It's. kind of coming in and out as the. adrenaline's kind of wearing off. Uh. neck strain, how how long am I going to.
Of course, if the scans come back clean, which you are are normally right there. in everything you project. How long neck. strain going to be bothering me? How. long you think I got to have this thing. on? I I I think you're going to be stiff for. a while, but I don't imagine that you're. going to keep that neck. collar on for very long. You're just as. soon as you get the MRI good, you're. just going to be like one of the. football players that just say, "I'm. going to roll with it." even though in. your play hurt without it because you'll. be tired of it and. >> [laughter]. >> you're already trying to move around a. lot as as it is.
My money's on you recovering faster than. most here, but I will say this. Say what. you will about WWE and I covered. ringside WWE before. The action is real, and the injuries are. real. I mean, say what you will about. it. Yeah, thank you, Doc. I agree. All right, thank you for that. Let's now. turn our attention to the draft. Obviously, you've been a part of many of. those, and the medicals matter so damn. much. There's somebody that has. seemingly been hurt, uh ligament, bone,
and muscle in his collegiate career, but. so explosive. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Pat's talking about Jordan Addison. at Colorado. He tore his ACL, and I. believe PCL as well, maybe, uh MCL, and. then he had the collarbone injury 2. years ago right before the college. football playoff, and then the hamstring. issues this year. What did you see from. Jordan Addison's workout, and how do you. think uh the NFL doctors will see him. going into this draft? We're not really that worried about. Jordan Addison, and we said it ahead of. this special pro day, his personal pro.
day. Hamstring injuries always heal. Have we ever heard of one that didn't. heal? He doesn't have a history of. recurring hamstring. Look at that. athleticism. The collarbone, he plays. football. It's a collision sport. It's. healed. The knee is the issue, but. remember the the knee was. multi-ligament, and it was 2022. So, you've got a lot of tape on him and. how athletic he is and how he's. recovered. So, I actually don't see a. lot of issues on him in terms of medical.
for this draft, and I think that's what. you're hearing about him going up the. draft board point in time. >> Yeah, I think that's a huge deal. I. think what you just said is a massive. ordeal because for me, I'm I'd be scared. to death to have somebody that has so. many injuries to draft to a 17-game. season with a bunch of adults, faster, and maybe even more physical than it's. ever been at the highest peak of it, not. necessarily every single play. It's. like, how will this guy survive? You. saying the injury's not seemingly. correlated to each other, and his most.
recent one's a hamstring. He'll be back. from that. You're not saying You're. saying that any draft class this would. be not a problem or this draft class. because it's not nearly as I guess blue. chippy is what they say I guess in his. talent he would be considered a blue. chip. Are you saying any draft would. view him that way or this draft in. particular? Well, you know, medical grades are. different just like a personnel grades. are different. What I'm saying here is. medical isn't going to determine where. he's drafted. I think he's fine.
medically. His talent will determine. where he's drafted. And his talent might. have him at the top of the wide receiver. draft. And I think it will come to. fruition. They're not worried about. Jordan Tyson besides despite all this. injury prone stuff which I don't like. that injury prone term. The kid plays. hard, his injuries are not related and. look at how he's performed in the years. since his knee injury. Not real worried. about him. Wow, that's a huge statement. coming from you I think. I think Jordan. Tyson's people are certainly going to be. pumped to hear that as well. See?
That's what we've been saying this. entire time. He has some Odell [ __ ]. going on. You know, in the in the in the. workout and then you watch some of the. film it's like this guy's freak freaky. out here. If you're able to get him, why. not? But there's also potentially people. trying to stir up a little [ __ ] right. now saying. you would never draft him. Definitely not before the 14th pick. >> [laughter]. >> No, you never want to do that. We are in. draft season. Not saying doctors do that. but certainly teams do it as they roll. Let's go to the NBA another massive. story. Go ahead Ty. Yeah, Doc. Anything.
on Luka Dončić? Now there's you know, there's a chance that he's going to play. game three. Maybe we see that the you. know, there's a an extra day off in. between games for this series. What what's your take on this? Do you. think we're going to get a somewhat like. 60% Luka? 70% Luka? What's your take on. this? Look, you know, when you travel to the. Europe and you try and get all the. special treatment it's a grade two. hamstring strain. We've been saying it. sports injury central all along, he's. out for at least the first series. The.
Lakers will have to survive that for him. to return. Here's the issue. I actually. see Austin Reaves coming back before. Luka Dončić. Austin Reaves can try and play through. his rib issue and try and tough it out. Luka, if he comes back a game too early, he could be lost for the rest of the. playoffs. So, I don't see the Lakers. doing that when it comes to a hamstring. the way that it is for him. So, I think. they're going to have to get by Houston. without him and then see what happens. >> Okay, Doc. We appreciate you so much. Thank you for taking the time. I don't.
know where you are right now, but are. you always in scrubs? No, you know, this was off-kilter. I'm. I'm you know, I Yes, sometimes I'm lazy. I'm between surgeries and so I'm in. scrubs between surgeries. When it's a. planned visit, I put on that. SportsInjuryCentral red shirt. This was. an impromptu, so apologies. No, apologies to us to not getting your. report immediately after I had this neck. injury. I should have asked. I should. have immediately went to. SportsInjuryCentral. and said, "Hey, what should I be expecting here?" Cuz I.
was starting to freak out a little bit. and then they were like, "Don't worry. about it. You go ahead and put this. collar on. You'll be okay. Do whatever. Do whatever." I can go to 50 Cent. concert? There'll be a lot of this. Yeah. I do this? He said, "You do it with the. collar on. You'll be safe." That's good. news. What's the under on your recovery? You're a football player. Hell, yeah. Well said. >> Amen, Doc. Well said, Doc. David Chao. And Dr. God, I needed that, didn't I? He knows. He does know. 173 text messages after.
WrestleMania. Not one from him. Really? He's probably checking tape, make sure you'll be okay, though. Yeah, he didn't want to say, "Hey, hope you're. okay." He just wanted to find out. Yeah. Make a [clears throat] bad read on it. Yeah. That was interesting. I've been doing a. lot of no phone stuff lately. What else? What else is there? Huh? Oh, yeah. Yeah, WrestleMania, I had no sir I had. nothing. I was I was honest. I was honest. Came out of that thing. afterwards.
Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding. ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding. ding. I'm like, "Oh, I wonder what. happened?" Oh. Oh, yeah. That's right. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, you're going to get I did I did. I. was like, "Oh, something might have. happened." Cuz we got a lot of stuff. going on right now. There's a lot of. stuff going on in our particular. business. So, I thought maybe something, you know, really happened. Then I. realized, "Oh, everybody." Yeah. You. okay, dude? >> Yeah, I just got to stretch it out. You. okay, dude? Everything okay? I just saw. Jelly Roll. Wait, [ __ ] Jelly Roll. What. about that? Oh, [snorts] we don't like. Jelly Roll? Yeah, what the hell happened. with you? >> No, we [laughter] No, we don't. No, no, no. I think me and Jelly Roll are going. to be okay. Maybe you two, but the rest.
of us. You're done on him? Yeah. I just didn't. like that. I mean, why would you. >> Jelly Roll all right? >> He could have put that to bed. Who. cares? I'm sorry, did we see what he did. to you? I mean, you're you're apparently. very forgiving human being. Yeah, but he. was also telling the crowd like, "Hey, I'm representing for you guys." I think. Jelly Roll was just having a little rock. star moment there. You know, I think he. was doing full rock star, Bret. >> Okay. You could have. >> [laughter]. >> figured it That's what I think. [clears throat] he was doing. >> And he sure shouldn't have been singing. the national anthem. What? Michael. Cole's sitting there. You It's happening. right in front of you guys. I do. appreciate D-Butt. There is an angle.
where D-Butt is actually pointing. going, "No." Everybody else has their. phone out watching me die. So, D-Butt, I appreciate you at least. pointing. >> living in the moment. Yeah, a lot of. phones out there. Everybody seemed to be. so happy when this thing broke with me. on top of it. Then the stretcher comes. out. Shout out to Koda and Miss Lady. I. don't I forget her name. >> Mhm. I was talking to them last night. They said, "Hey, say you okay, Pat?" I. said, "I don't think so.". Yeah, I don't think that guy was. licensed either uh that got you on that. stretcher. >> think so. >> If you're in Las Vegas and you go. through something, I hope you don't. There's a chance that Koda and Miss Lady.
do come get you. >> No, I hope not. Well, I hope they don't. have to send anybody ever. I hope. nothing ever happens. It worked. I hope. nothing ever happens. But, yeah. I mean. Shout out to Eddie Orengo helping out, too. Mr. Jordan helping out. >> Mhm. Thank you, guys. >> Was it your first time being on a. stretcher? Yeah. >> Like taken out like that? >> Yeah, first time ever. A lot of things. happened in in that wrestling. >> There it is. >> [laughter]. >> Look at the crowd. So big. Yeah. Yeah, so bad. Yeah. What a. time to be alive.
>> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I'm up. Tore it up, man. >> That was good. I'll tell you what, you. get stretched out and come back, nobody's talking about being a fighting. referee. >> Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? You only get one night. And my shoe was. untied, I just realized. >> Yeah. Dangerous. Happy I'm okay. Oof. So. close. I should have counted. Well, you. couldn't look down cuz your neck was. potentially fractured. So. >> have counted. Exactly. I can't decide. And that's why The motion was a little. slower. Takes slower. >> Yeah, cuz in my head it was a lot. faster. Now that I'm watching it, it's. kind of slower than And maybe that was. the relay through the neck. Mhm. And. then the hands got Was this just the.
animal in Randy coming out? He just saw. a human neck He just saw red next to him. and I think he I think he thought maybe. I should have counted quicker. I I I. haven't really caught up with Randy. >> Could have just been the Viper coming. out. Saw the ref shirt, too. Yeah, yeah, you know, Robinson wants I'm just a. little bit worried that Randy and I's. friendship is going to be affected by. this. >> Yeah, that's Yeah, I mean I think it's. going to have to. I got rid of my. RK-Bro, everybody should worry. Mhm. Voice in his head. It's nothing you. can't get by. Yeah, who knows what voice.
What voice told him to do that to you? Exactly. >> Maybe Jelly Roll's Could have been. Jelly. He was thinking about the song. Get By. And boom. >> And he said, "That's how I get by.". >> Got you. Jelly Roll's got a lot of hits. Mhm. A lot of hits. Son of a sinner perhaps. Doesn't excuse what he did. >> [clears throat].
[singing]. >> I'll tell you what, when they do the. Bada bing. Bada bing. Getting the chance to experience that in. the arena one more time, couple more. times. His interest was [ __ ] pretty. good. Good fit. >> Me and Randy were sitting down in the. ring getting ready for a fight. >> Yeah. You know, getting ready to save. the business. I'm telling Randy, "You look good, champ.". Mhm. "You look good, champ.". People are taking pot shots at me.
>> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> of pot shots at me. >> What? >> One of 50's guys. 50's guys? >> fatso. Right over here. We going to see. him later. Yeah. [laughter]. Have a good time with him, man. He was. He was pretty good guy that guy. >> [ __ ] you, Pat. >> Yeah, big bingo. Did he have that same. energy later? Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. He let me know and I I looked. at him and I did remember him. He was me. and him eye contact one-on-one right. here. Cuz you do see the each individual. >> Oh, yeah. Omar, right to your [ __ ]. >> Close to you. What side was Kittle on? Kittle was talking [ __ ] to a lot of the.
crowd, I think, a lot of the time. But I. told Kittle to go [ __ ] himself though. If we are wondering, I was in the ring. and I looked at Kittle, "Fuck you, Kittle." Had to. And Kittle goes, and I go, Tyrese get one, too? >> [ __ ] booze bag drunk Tyrese was. seeing red. He deserved one cuz he was. definitely on Cody's side. >> Yeah, I was like We knew he was a. crybaby. We Tyrese's dad though, okay? >> John, Big John? >> Yeah. Let's talk about Tyrese. Haliburton's dad, you know. I would like to say, our guy. >> Courtside Courtside again? >> Our guy, definitely my guy, okay? He's.
the a legend. I come out, everybody's. middle finger, everybody's saying. everything to me. I get in the ring, Big. John Haliburton's front row. >> [laughter]. >> Thumbs up like this at me, smiling, waving. Everybody's [laughter]. Everybody's flipping me off. Everybody. in the building is flipping me off and. I'm flipping off everybody, "Fuck you, [ __ ] you, too. Hey, you fatso, yeah, right." And Big John Haliburton, big. thumbs up and waving. So happy. >> That's support. >> And I like looked at him and I like I I.
was going to say. I was going to I was going to do it. But I I want to call I said, "Ozempic-looking ass.". >> Mhm. It's a call. It was a. That's an interesting thing, man. Very. rarely can you just walk into an arena. >> Mhm. or a stadium. and everybody in there hates that you're. there. That was a beautiful thing. That was a. lot easier to see the people that were. supportive of me, you know, cuz they. really stuck out. And I appreciate them going through it. out there. I appreciate you guys going.
through it out there. >> Yeah, cuz yeah. >> [laughter]. >> We were getting. right away. >> [clears throat]. >> So, I didn't know all his [ __ ] fans were. on the stage there. I mean, they're. pretty close. >> Yeah. I mean, they were pretty close to. the situation. We didn't do I didn't do. a lot Yeah, I just forgot. He got a guy. right there, [laughter] too. That was. crazy. >> Yeah, I got a guy right there, too. He. was the one I was holding a sign said, "Trash McAfee." Soon as I walk out, I. saw it. I'm like, "What's this guy all about?". >> [laughter]. >> I don't think I should have got a full. entrance. But if we're out here, let's [ __ ] do.
it. I guess. every one of you needs to get it. >> Yep, you can take it. Sweet. Eat some. With the red, too. Red letters. >> Yeah, it was a good time, man. It was a. good time out there. And you know, I guess I was mistaken a. little bit by some of the things I said. >> Sure. It happens. That's going to. happen, yeah. I'll just try and gas up. my guy. Yeah. Yeah. Safe at business. And who's the real loser in this whole. thing? Look at me. Yeah. Look [snorts] at me right now. Yeah. I got finally meet [ __ ]. Cameron. God [ __ ] love. Hey, ma. What's up? >> What's up? [ __ ] met him finally. It.
is what it is. I was so pumped to meet. him. Take a picture. I got a [ __ ] neck. brace on. Yeah. He probably respects One. [clears throat] of them Saturday. WrestleMania. >> Mhm. I can't say it. And I didn't say it, by. the way. And I do know rap songs well. enough to not say it. >> [laughter]. >> Okay? Yes. As a what who does know every rap. song and basically every word to it. There you I have to know it better, okay? I have to know every song very. well. You be a couple beats ahead. >> [laughter].
>> I have to be I have to be there's no oh. we're too intoxicated we're flowing. right now. Okay, I saw a lot of people. tweeting Pat definitely some people were. saying did he say? And then everybody was like no that's. Hal Burton and they're like no he knows. the words back there it's like I come. from an NFL locker room. Let's all please have some respect for. my teammates and understand that that. that would never happen and it can't but. I'll tell you it is a fine line when. you're singing songs from 2004 okay and. you know the words.
Kind of. And then all of a sudden if you're in a. video in the back and you're rapping. along. And you know it's a club so you can't. hear anything you can't even get caught. doing that. Hey his [ __ ] mouth just. said it. I know it I know it you can't. do any of that so. Please please know. that that would never happen. Now Hal. Burton he was putting on a show. Yeah. Hal Burton was putting on a show but how. that whole album. I mean all all 50 has to do is just play. play the out just press play on get rich. or die trying we're going to do the. whole [ __ ] thing. He that's all he. has to do. Thanks. There's three.
different albums that he has heat from. too. It was a [ __ ] it was a great. [ __ ] show. >> Play the power intro song. Nice. Yeah. Cam'ron got up there. I can't believe. it. My favorite show. Curtis Jackson. yeah that might have been my favorite. live show too. >> It was [ __ ] incredible. I I mean it. was a great show. He was. I told him that actually. Hey man. graduated high school in '05 yep I was. the one that you. Mhm. Yeah all the [ __ ]. was us basically. Go go every day. Mhm. Thank you so much for your contributions. to my life. No problem man get up. Like.
all right I need to get the [ __ ] out of. here. >> 10 out of 10 hospitality too. Unbelievable thank you. 10 out of 10. Drinks hey what do you. need what do you need what do you need? Come on in we had a group of 10 out of. 10. Yeah we were deep. >> We were deep dudes all. >> [laughter]. >> And just like right in yeah come on in. all right sweet we walk into a room it. was a big room. >> Yeah. Oh. I don't know if I should be here right. now. Tony [ __ ] Yayo. Oh man. Unreal. The. real report. >> Yeah that is. Him and Uncle Murda love. that. We need you on the show actually. You got a [ __ ] TONY DALE? NO PROBLEM,
MAN. Nice to meet you. I'm in this. Sunglasses on. [ __ ] ref shirt. >> Ref shirt. Ref shirt. [laughter]. Incredible. The ref shirt. It's hilarious to see. obviously people that know the business. and then people that don't follow the. business. You all right, bro? Tough night. Tough. night. >> [laughter]. >> Tough day. Are you going to be okay? I. don't know. I don't know if anybody's. ever had Pay for the scans. Yeah, check. in with Joe. Jelly Roll called me. Jelly. Roll called me. Banged. Jelly Roll Jelly. Roll, you know Jelly Roll? Grammy Award. winner. [ __ ] he pulled me through a table. He.
just exploded. Just splinters all over. my body. And then Randy Orton, you know RKO? [ __ ] got me. That was all tonight. They said, "Wow, are you going to Is. everything going to be okay?" Like, I. don't know. TBD scans. Let's see. I'm. running on adrenaline right now. Yeah, I. didn't see this until this morning. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, this is after Yeah, this is good. >> [laughter]. >> What you going to do? I put it on. I. like how they're holding you on there. What are you going to What's so funny? [laughter] What's so funny everybody?
[clears throat] Just sneaking it in. there. Just make sure they know. What? Cuz I knew there was going to be a lot. of photos being taken. Your thingy's. down there. Is that frog driving that. thing? >> [laughter]. >> I was not [clears throat] It was all. hey. Look at your face, too. Yeah. All. of. All of it. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I got carted out twice. I got. stretchered out. I got carted out. You're hunched over like that. >> [laughter]. >> Like how you're hunched over. Yeah, I mean yeah. This is kind of guys, but I couldn't. control my body. I couldn't control my. body. >> No, of course not.
>> [snorts]. >> They're like, "Hey, there's still fans. here." I go, "What is that [ __ ] me?". >> [laughter]. >> Locked up. My body, I can't use it. >> [laughter]. >> Those days are past now. Mhm. Hell of a. run. Unbelievable. Great run. Great run. AJ, you were part of. my wrestling run. Thank you for your. service, AJ. Back in the day, that was. fun, yeah. This college. E bought your part. Thank you so much, E. bought. Frankie, thank you, buddy.
To my WWE 2K brethren. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. What a run that was. What a run. >> True honor. They were really happy. whenever we all got into that game. >> Ecstatic, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was one. of the nicest days on the internet for. us. It really was. Yeah. That was my. introduction to the IWC. That's when they said, "Hey, yeah, not. in our [ __ ] time." Oh, yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] all these goofballs. >> [snorts]. >> They don't get it. They never will. They. won't. They might have been right all.
along, though. Feels like they probably are. You guys look great in the in the game. You too, AJ. Thank you. We're always happy. >> and Joey and Cody Cody are going to be a. tag team now? Travel around? I don't know. I didn't get a chance to. catch up with either of them. [ __ ] Walter Cronkite. >> should have done your right. Yeah. Is Cody's eye all right? I don't think so. >> From what I understand from what I saw. on the internet, not in real life, I. haven't seen that thing in real life. I believe that that that thing was a big.
time Huge. That was a big time. And then. there's also, I believe, some stitches. here. >> Yeah, he got kicked in the head. >> Some other [ __ ] happening here. >> Back here. He got [ __ ] up pretty good. >> really really He laid it all out there. Exactly. Which is why we would like to. reiterate. The [ __ ] might be the one. >> That guy might be the one. That guy. might be the one. Yeah. I'll tell you. He was fun to watch out there, wasn't. he? Oh, yeah. I didn't really appreciate the fact. that, you know. when we attack him. before the match starts, he's supposed. to lose that. Mhm. Yep.
He's supposed to lose it. You're not. supposed to [ __ ] drop Randy into a. post. >> No. No. Cuz Randy's supposed to bump. Bump. Bump. Bump. Bump. I got to stop doing that. AJ, why don't. you We talked about it last week, man. Don't They've been They watched film, too, bud. You know they saw that. Like, they were waiting. That's good. You're setting up You're. setting up a comeback, maybe, someday. No. He's done with the business. >> huh? We'll see. Deals are deals, dude.
>> man of his word. I did sign something I didn't read, so. I did see that. Yeah. I got caught up in. the moment. Randy said he was going to. go talk to the crowd. I couldn't wait to. hear him say And that guy was smirking. For an Adam Pearce? Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to say thanks to him for trying. to keep up. >> Guy I didn't need to know his name. I think his name's Nick. All the trucks. are sick, though. The RAM trucks? Yeah. Yeah, those were. sweet. >> recent one was the best. >> Yeah. The week before that, probably not their. best. But it was good RAM truck. I [ __ ] did it. It's very unlike you.
to sign something that you didn't read, though. It was only a couple words on. it. I felt like it was pretty basic. stuff. But I think it did mention that I could. get hit by anybody at any time. That's. why he was smirking. Clear for. physicality. I said, "All right. You got. it." Yep. Cody actually said when he got. in the ring, he reminded me. He said, "I. can hit you right now.". What? And I had to think to myself, "Can. he? No way." Randy. Oh, yeah, he [ __ ]. can. Do it. And then guess who hit who. >> [laughter]. >> And then guess what didn't work. That. was not how that was supposed to go. We.
were supposed to beat him the [ __ ] down. Yeah. We were supposed to beat him the [ __ ]. down. Mhm. He was supposed to go through. maybe the commentary table. >> Exactly. He was maybe supposed to have Maybe me. Yeah. That would have Who knows if I'm. showcasing out there. Yeah. I'm. showcasing immortals. I guess right. here, coming across on him. Then Randy throws his [ __ ] bag of. bones back in the ring. Ring the belt, doofus. >> One, two, three. We're out of there. He's got it. >> They were talking about match times. Mhm. That one. >> There was a lot of talk about that. That one should have been much quicker.
>> Yeah. But instead, it was the complete. opposite, and I felt like I was taught a. bit of a lesson. pretty quickly. Yeah, they told me Randy's going to. [ __ ] kill you. Jeff Jarrett was going. to kill you. And Randy's going to kill. you. Almost like the wrestling gods say, "Hey, kid. Scram." Which is why I said, "Hey, if. this doesn't go how it's supposed to go, I'm out of here." Yeah. We're back on Wednesday. Where at? Live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Ooh, oh, yeah.
Tomorrow we were going to be live, and. then something was offered to us in. Pittsburgh, so we are going to have to. take them up on that offer. So, we are. going to do that. I get a lot of people. telling me that I'm getting lazy uh cuz. we don't do a show as much. Whenever. there's some sporting event on in the. afternoon that we're all going to watch. anyways, what we have learned over the. history of doing the show is it is not. worth you watching us watch another. show. >> [laughter]. >> It is not. It's not good for anybody. >> What was it? It is not good. It is. literally not good for anybody. It's. [ __ ] the worst. Okay, it's the shits. And we can't help ourselves. Mhm. If the. Masters is on the afternoon, You're.
watching. >> to watch the Masters. If March Madness. is happening, we're going to watch it. That That's kind of how it goes. So, we. got a lot of people talking [ __ ] about. us about not, you know, this week. We're off tomorrow. We're getting off. for something they've never been off. for, and we're getting our scans back. tomorrow. >> Yeah, yeah. Very important. You might. have to have fusion surgery. tomorrow. Potentially. Yeah. But also, the thing we were offered tomorrow, I've. never heard of any human being getting. offered it. And we are going to take advantage of. that. Hell, yeah. >> We're also doing a, you know, 5-plus-hour show on Thursday night, so. You know, kind of. No, but genuinely, the fact that you any.
of you watch anything, we're very. surprised and appreciative of. Thursday night's going to be gigantic. Yes. Mhm. Wednesday we're live from Pittsburgh. from the draft spot. Friday, too? Friday we're live from. there as well. With Roger Goodell. Ooh, the. commissioner of the NFL? Annual annual. post-first-round. "How'd you do, Rog? Hey, what are we. doing about the refs, Rog?" A lot of. that. That That There's going to be a. lot of I think that's probably going to. be the focal point of this particular.
conversation this year. Hey, B-Mac, heads-up, we're coming in with that. Right? Don't you think, AJ, that was. nice of us to do? >> Absolutely. Yeah. >> Yeah, give him a heads up. He knows. He. would expect it, too. Heads up, normally. we want to know where the next draft is. going to be as well. You already know. that, though. Well, the one after DC. There you go. Heads up, we also want to know. 18 games, two buys? Mhm. Feels right. Australia, automatic buy? How's this. work? What's your thoughts? There's a. lot to talk about with him. And that he. will have answers. He is actually Grass.
The streaming deals. Streaming deals. Back to the table. Five. more money, five more games with. YouTube, NFL Network getting purchased. by ESPN, but also the NFL now having a. percentage of ESPN as a whole. Mhm. Maybe making players. >> with him? Maybe making players declare before the. draft whether they want to come back and. play or not. Something to think about. Quarterbacks? Sure. Whatever. Sounds good. I like the. NBA. Just quick follow-up, do we know if that. has happened yet? Do we still have time. before the draft starts? How many days? Two days.
Two and a half-ish. So, could still happen. >> Actually, 77 hours. Yep. 2 minutes, 53. Pretty good little. countdown right there. Yeah. It's right here, I guess. We know. Good job here, with voice. Good job. Good job, Zeke. Good job, Dirty. Good. job, Nick. >> boys. Coming together. Countdown to. Draft Spectacular is currently sitting. at 77 hours, 2 minutes, 35 seconds. Can't wait. So close. It's the next. generation of NFL superstars.
>> Oh, yeah. The best. Live in Pittsburgh. Think about the energy that's going to. be there. Nice weather. HOLY [ __ ] AJ. Great. weather. Great weather, isn't it? I. mean, yeah, people are going to be. there. Pittsburgh, let's not get It's. going to say yeah, I'm going to put my. eggs in a I mean, not freezing. It's not. going to be freezing. I don't know if. the Nardo's doing the reading of the. Doppler that he created, but it does. sound like by all accounts it's going to. be a good couple days. The NFL seemingly. has that effect. Yep. Came to. Indianapolis for the Super Bowl, we had. like 75-degree weather in February. It's. never happened before for 4 days, then. as soon as they left we had an ice.
storm. Mhm. Pittsburgh, here we go. Green Bay was a little bit Friday was. bad. Thursday, the night of the draft, we got lucky, but Detroit was the cold. Boy, it was cold and windy. >> Brisk. I forgot how chilly it was. Have. we Have we decided on a dress code yet? We haven't. What we're dressing like? No, no idea. >> We have not figured that out yet. I. packed a. Don't. I got an idea. I got an idea I. need to run by you. I know what it No, no, no. I mean, I know I know what the. last years have been, so. Okay, so we're just going, hey, let's.
dress nice. Yeah. Okay, it's the draft. >> Professional. That's why I need to run. it by you. It's a draft spectacular. You're dressing like an [ __ ] is that. what it sounds like? >> It's It's just I've I have a couple. ideas. Ty, it's a shame you never get to. go to this. >> I know, and I was really I love. Pittsburgh. I love everything about. Pittsburgh. Um It loves you, man. And, you know, of course, it's going to. be nice, too, but you guys will You guys. will be, you know, you don't you don't. need me up there. You'll be fine without. me. >> But you would make it better. Like if you were ever a part of one of. these, I think you, Ty, Schmitty, would.
really enjoy yourselves. >> Well, listen, it's one of my fav, you. know, it's one of my favorite nights of. the year sitting at home watching you. guys or wherever I end up, you know, wherever I'm at, I'm tuning in to you. guys and I'm just saying. I am just chomping at the bit like, "Oh, man, I would love to respond to that.". Or I would have loved to say something. there, but. it's just not the reality of the. situation, unfortunately. It's crazy. always got something going on. >> I know. Why do we have him on the graphic? I. don't know. I actually asked Bone that.
Said, "Hey, this is kind of. >> Oh, he was too busy letting Cody in the. building to Oh. >> I'll tell you what, Bone really had. quite a performance this weekend in. Vegas. He showcased that he's on He was. clearly on our side, but he was happy. without ended, I think. Huh. You know. what I mean? He had a great night. Oh, yeah. The Bone? 50 Cent. Mhm. Did he knew though Did he know who. 50 Cent was? Lot of this right here. >> [laughter]. >> Well, 50. Like right behind him. Mike Did Debo.
know any of the songs? Yeah, he he had a. couple of these. Yeah, right here is 50. >> pockets? Yeah, I said, "Debo, get your. hands out of your pockets." 50's. [laughter] right behind him. They got. cameras around it, you know, the whole. thing. >> Debo was Was Taco on stage? I didn't see. him singing. I didn't see Taco on stage, but I will say Debo had a Taco week. Debo, part of the Mania main event. >> Sure. Uh story being whenever you let. Cody in the building like an [ __ ]. and then he's with 50 Cent. Taco does. the track thing. Then he's on stage with.
Flo Rida. >> Yep. You know, like it was uh it was an. interesting it was an interesting week. 50 just. acting abnormally normal for who he is. at this stage of life. Just immediately after he performs, just. comes out, just stands, just stands, he's just casually standing here, talking to people, having a couple. drinks. I'm like, "Fucking beast.". You're just chilling? Yeah, just we. Literally, he's [ __ ] what? Super genius TV creator. Has the greatest album of all time.
One of the best internetters. Yep. Vitamin water. I was going to say. Great. businessman. I know he's got booze. companies, too. >> Incredible businessman, yeah. Just. chilling, having a good time. Like [ __ ] A. You got me. senior high school, bro. Every day in. the club I'm going in the club there. Now I'm in a club. Damn near 40. I feel like a [ __ ]. dinosaur. >> [laughter]. >> Hey, we're having a good time. We're. having a good time. And it was just like. back in the all the same songs. >> Yep. From back just pick me up, put me. back in the club act. That is what it.
was, but there was numerous discussions, numerous times walking into these rooms. but I shouldn't [ __ ] be here. Yeah, it's not this stage of life. I should. not be walking in here. Then you get in. there, the energy's great. It's like. Okay, I remember I used to do this a. little bit. Here it used to be a good. time. Tyrese Haliburton's looking at us. going, "I'm 26 years old. Yeah, I wanted. to be a Bieber jelly.". >> [laughter]. >> It just feels like so different. 50 said, "Yeah, we was having a ball at. Live in Vegas. My man Haliburton pulled.
up on me." Okay, sick. All right, so I think he does remember. that we exist. It was a good time in. there. It was a good time. He had the. whole place was having a good time. He. has so many hits. Yeah. So like every generation knows and Vegas. is a lot of different There's different. conventions. CinemaCon was happening. there. WrestleMania's happening there. There's some business [ __ ] going on. There's some gambling [ __ ] going on. So. all these people go to all these hotels. and then end up in the clubs. It's like. you got to be able to hit like it I. don't want to say it's like a Super Bowl. type thing, but it is like if you can. hit every generation Vegas, you're going. to hit, I think. He every song.
every person. 85-year-old [clears throat] drunk who's. there all the way down to the. 21-year-old kid that's celebrating their. [ __ ] first time in Vegas. Whole place. just every single song. It was. It was electrifying. Going to head on. off score whole plane ride back? Yeah, 50. Stay fit. Did today, too, before the show. Perfect. >> [ __ ] need Get Rich or Die Tryin' and. me and they had a great time. It was a. great time. Wish Randy would have won. Yeah. But it. seems like. everything we thought we needed in that. business isn't Seems like it's okay.
Mhm. Exactly. That's Oh my goodness. That guy. Full time. Talk about being in shape. 0%. body fat. You'll be seeing my ass all. summer. Thank God for that. >> Mhm. Business is good, isn't it? Hell. yeah. >> Hell yeah. It was a good run. Be a. friend, tell a friend something nice. about change your life. We're going to. sing together. Tomorrow we're. experiencing a once-in-a-lifetime thing. We'll be back on Wednesday live from the. Draft setup. I wonder if they know that we're going. to be there.
Wednesday. [snorts]. >> Who's day? >> [laughter]. >> Who is they doing? We're all in this. thing together. Let's never ever forget. that. Always going to be stirring some [ __ ]. even whenever we don't mean to. Team on me. Thank you all so much for. allowing us to do this for a living. Actually, we're very, very thankful and. lucky. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three, team. Goodbye.
