The Pat McAfee Show Live From WrestleMania | Monday April 21st 2025

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now. Mania was awesome. a two night spectacle. where new dreams are coming true, new. storylines are developing, and a goat. has officially broken a record that we. thought would never be touched. Yes, Alexander Ovuchetkin broke Wayne. Gretzky's goalc scoring record a week. ago, but John Cena has surpassed Ric. Flair as a 17 time world champion, the.

most in the history of the professional. wrestling world. Now, it came in a way. that not a lot of people would have. hoped for John Cena. He actually. utilized the title in a legal object. while the ref was down and out. John. Cena took advantage. And John Cena said, "Cody Rhodess, your story might have. ended a year ago, but tonight you are. just on the wrong side of a historic. chapter in John Cena becoming the.

certified goat." A lot of people were. upset about the way that whole thing. went down. We'll talk to John Cena in 14. minutes on this particular program. Whoa. He had a press conference last. night. He did not say much. He did. allude to the fact he'll be talking. tonight at Monday Night Raw. But how. will he handle himself right here in the. blender at the WWE World after a magical. weekend? There's new champions. Joining. us is a man who just got done calling.

his 28th Wrestlemania. The greatest of. all time, the voice of the WWE, Michael. Cole. A lot of things happened this. weekend, Cole. Indeed, they did. And. what a what a wonderful Wrestlemania. Hell yeah. Cole. John Cena winning a 17th world title in. controversial fashion, but I said it. last night. No matter what you think. about how it ended, Ric Flair was the.

dirtiest player in the game in many of. the 16 world titles. He kicked so many. dicks. Yeah, he did. He punched so many. balls. He did. And then that's And Ric. Flair was considered one of the all-time. great. So, I do think that John Cena is. the GOAT despite how he went around all. this. But I think the most exciting part. for me for the weekend with the new. champions that were crowned uh Dominic. Mysterio despite what you feel about. him. Wow. Brand new. Respect. Respect. Yeah. Yeah.

Respect. Respect. General. Wow. Makes sense. Congrats to dirty ass, disgusting ass, dumbass. That was awesome. And also the. man who I believe is going to be the. next superstar in this business. Jacob. Fatu, brand new United States. He is our new United States champion.

And I live in Indiana. You live in. Texas. These people live all over the. country. He is now our champion of. America. And I can get down with Jacob. Faw too leading the way. No doubt. Who. else? Cole. Uh we've got a I had a. tremendous uh match to kick off the show. last night. IO Sky retaining her. championship against Ria Ripley and. Bianca Belair. That was a heck of a. match. Um Becky Lynch returned. Hell. yeah. That has come back around is now a.

tag team champion with Lyra Valkyia dog. Logan Paul wins again at WrestleMania. talent. Hey, he is boo all you want. He. is one heck of an athlete and a. tremendous businessman and he caught a. drone. He did. Sweet. Just said come to. me drone and the drone came all worked. Tiffany Stratton arrived on the big. stage with a win over Charlotte Flair. One, two, three. It was hard to tell. which box she was in, by the way. I was. I was on on your page. It was the middle. box. It was the middle box. That's why.

you're the best analyst in the game. Like I said, uh Jade Cargill did. wonderful against Naomi. uh weapon. athlete. Unfortunately, Rey Mysterio got. hurt, but he was replaced by Ray Phoenix. to take on El Grande Americano, who Chad. Gable once again. We don't know that. We. don't know that. You see the intro? That. wasn't him. We have a brand new world. heavyweight champion. What's his name? His name is Main Event J Uso.

The new day. What are you eating? The. New Day with a 13th title. Hell yeah. Hell of a win. And of course, Damen Priest, Drew McIntyre with an. unbelievable Sin City fight. I mean, you. talk about absolute cinema. A lot of. people were saying that might have been. the best match in the history of. Wrestlemania. I'm right there with him. Damian Priest, Drew McInty. Yeah. I. mean, if you're going to come to Sin. City, two tables, not one. Not one, not.

two, three tables. There's only two. right there, but I think someone else. went through one as well. Uh, you know, we were hoping that they would maybe mix. it up in our section a little bit. I was. looking to, you know, give a couple. tatas to to Drew McIntyre. Oh, yeah. That go over well. Yeah. Well, it didn't. get over that far, but yeah, in in my. humble opinion, maybe the best match in. the history of Wrestlemania. Ty was more. bummed out um when Damen Priest lost. than he was when the Yankees lost in the. World Series to the Dodgers. Really? You. were bummed out about it? How about when. uh Joe Hendry became the surprise.

opponent? I know you guys love it. You. love it. Um I appreciate that you said. on on the call, you know, like listen, I. believe in Randy Orton. I don't believe. in Joe Hendry. Okay. I love seeing Debbuck go crazy. marking out for him, but I you know, listen, not everybody can be on the same. page, so I had to listen. I thought, did. you hear that pop? Did you hear that. pop? Joe Hendrick came out and when you. said the next great you talking about.

Fatu I thought you were about to say Joe. Hendry I believe dude yeah get used to. seeing his he didn't belong in the same. ring as a Viper. Okay. And that was. proven. He had his mania moment that. that RK out of nowhere though. Especially on Ry's 20th uh anniversary. Yeah. I mean the guy's thing is to turn. around and smile and the camera zooms on. him. I don't get it. Look how electric. that is. Yeah. This part. You mean that. part? Bang. Electric. Incredible. Wow. And we're also neglecting to talk about. perhaps the biggest story of the.

weekend, the fact that Paul Heyaymon. once again stabbed some people in the. back and aligned with Seth Rollins in. that triple threat match for the main. event of Wrestlemania Saturday. Absolutely incredible here. The low blow. first to Punk. We thought he had. realigned himself with Roman Pat, but. that wasn't the case. They I thought OTC. was back with the original bloodline. And as soon as Paul dropped to that. knee, I knew this rap bastard son of a. [ __ ] was going to rattle those balls. and the cheeks and a line with Seth.

freaking Rollins. I went on the ride the. whole time. He sent that chair over CM. Punk. I'm like, of course, this is the. favor. Then when he lowb blows him, I. go, wise man's a super genius. Wise. man's got to figure out the bloodlines. all the way back. And then whammy. Seth. Rollins. Allah the shield break up in. Indianapolis, Indiana. Into a stomp. One, two, three. Seth freaking Rollins. The visionary, the. revolutionary Seth freaking Rollins.

He's now teamed up with Paul Heymon. Paul Heymon will join us in one hour. I. cannot wait to talk to that man to see. what he has to say. I heard him last. night at the uh the roast. How was that? Right. of Wrestlemania. Paul Heymon was. throwing some Paul Ste. He was throwing. some real heat. I I I don't know if it. was a work or a shoot, brother. Couple. things that were going on and I was just. on cloud 90 right in the middle of all. of it. Having a time of my life. Some. other sports happened this weekend that. we have to catch up on quickly before.

John Cena joins us out here. Yes. NBA. playoffs happened. All the favorites. basically won. Only two of the lower. seeds won. That was the T-Wolves beating. the Lakers by 23 in LA. Kind of bad news. Bears there for the Lakers. Luca went. off. Still looked unbelievable. And the. T- Wolves won by 20. Well, what is that? 22 points even uh even without a big. night from Ant-Man. Uh Clippers Nuggets. was probably just the best overall game. I think everyone thinks that's going to. be the best overall series. Uh that went.

into overtime. Russell Westbrook came. through in the clutch unlike earlier uh. in the season when we saw him miss that. layup. Joic, I think he had 299 and 12. I mean, the guy is ridiculous. And the. Clippers, I mean, even though they lost. game one, the Clippers look great. Kawhai's playing a lot of basketball. I. think he played 40 minutes and James. Harden looks like prime time. Jimmy. Harden. Let's go back to the Denver. Nuggets real quick. Do we think the. players maybe wanted some change? Uh, that's what it seems like. That that.

that seems to be the writing on the. wall. kind of all. Yeah, especially. Malone was, you know, talking some [ __ ]. about him kind of to the media in some. postgame press conferences. So, it does. feel as though maybe the boys are coming. together. And this game, too. They Yeah, you can see right there. But they were. down most of the game. It felt like if. there was ever a time where a team would. quit, it would be, you know, right. there. And instead, here come the Nugs. Look out. But that's kind of the West. The West also Thunder won by 50. Just. just so we're keeping track. Yeah, 50 is. quite a spread in the playoffs. How.

about in the East? Who who's looking the. most dominant on the Eastern side? The. most dominant I think I would say the. Boston Celtics just because uh they took. care of business. Um it stayed under. Uh. Jason Tatum, you know, everyone's saying. Tatum didn't have a good game. Oh, well, who had the most rebounds of any player. this weekend? Oh, that's right. Jason. Tatum. So, he can do it all. Uh and you. know, 14 boards. That's no joke. Especially in a game that went way. under. This is going to be a defensive. grind here. Uh but yeah, the Indiana. Pacers are rolling, right? There's no.

doubt about it. The the way they play, I. don't think anybody wants to play them. Uh Giannis is going to score 40 points a. game in this series, but they might not. win a game just because the Pacers are. playing so well. Hallebertton, the. maestro of the court, if you will. Um. and then kind of the other story in the. East is the Pistons Knicks. Everyone. loves the Pistons. They got the dogs. They got the dogs. Jaylen Brunson went. on a 20 and0 run in the fourth quarter. Uh and they won the game. Yeah, 20 and0. It wasn't just him, but he was basically. uh creating, scoring, doing everything.

Uh and they they were down the whole. game. I think going into the fourth, it. was an eight-point game. Pistons were up. and then the Knicks end up winning by. 11. You're a Knicks guy, Cole. You all. jacked up? I am, and I can't wait. They. play again tonight. OG, he's the guy. who's going to be the uh the guy they. need in this series. Xactor XActor. Xactor. Exactly. And they're they're. playing well. I mean, the Pistons, I. think the Knicks are going to win in. six. Second round, I'm a bit worried. about, but we'll see. Who do you who. would they have in the second round? Uh. I believe uh I believe Who's that cool?

A team from way up north. Oh, so you. won't even get a chance to lose to the. Pacers this year. No, no, they won't. Uh. NBA happened, NHL playoffs also. happening over the weekend. Yeah, we. started playing some of the most. important buck of the year out there on. the ice to the NHL playoffs in a similar. fashion. All the favorites won though. Uh just like the NBA, most of the. favorites won. All of the favorites won. five games so far. All the favorites won. four. Is there a playoff problem? Is. there a first round of the playoffs. problem? Oh, I don't think so. We got to. college football playoff, got to NFL. playoff, go to NBA playoff, now we're at.

the NHL playoff. Maybe we just need to. understand that sometimes there are. levels to this [ __ ] There are levels to. this, but it's weird cuz like the way. the uh NHL playoffs are set up. It's not. like a one verse eight thing. They play. to the divisions or whatever. But yeah, four of the five teams were home teams, so maybe there's the home ice advantage. The ice is tilted a bit. The only uh. home team to lose, unfortunately, was uh. Gumpy's Dallas Stars. They lost 5-1 to. Yeah, but we thought they kind of stink. coming in right now. They lost six or seven coming into the. playoffs. So, no, they weren't good. coming in, but and the Avalanche were. the favorites and McKinnon had two goals.

there. Uh, in the other games, the Jets, the Winnipeg Jets won over the Blues 53. The Kiacs won 4-1 over the Devils. The. Leafs beat the Suns 6-2. And the Knights. last night in this city beat the Wild 4. to2. Golden Knights might have a chance. Uh, can't wait to catch up with the. Static Cup playoffs as they roll on. The. NHL in hockey playoffs as a whole are. mustwatch. I mean, it's so fast. It is. so electrifying. Speaking of mustwatch, there's been a man that has been around.

the WWE for a majority of my life. He's. been preaching the good [ __ ] hustle, loyalty, respect. When you heard that, all you thought to. yourself was, "Wow, here's a hardworking. man who will give his all to his. professional and to his people. Here's a. guy who's going to be able to ascend to. the mountaintop and not just get there. and hang out and see and then drop. No, for 20 years, show up night after night.

after night, understanding that the work. only starts when you get to the top.". And carried the company in beautiful. fashion for two decades. He's a man that. has been discussed as a goat by the. voice of the. WWE Michael Cole for the better half of. the last decade, let alone the fact now. that he's the all-time leader in world. title runs. But is the way that he did it last night. at Wrestlemania going to tarnish. everything that this man has done for 20.

years? Is him being a. backstabber, ballkicking, heel of a champion going to. ruin all the great that this guy has. done for society? He's made more wishes. for Make a Wish than any other person. ever. He's an actual actor. Every movie. he's in, he's a banger. But right now, these people think he's an [ __ ]. Ladies and. gentlemen, our champion for the 17th. time, John Cena.

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[Music]. eyes. This is automatic. [Music]. Feel like a helicopter pilot with us on. today. I am I would trust you, John. Your captain for this afternoon. We.

are cruising at 32,000 ft. We're I feel. like I'm at 40,000. If you're at 32,000, I'm at 40. I can tell, man. How you. doing? I'm great. How are you? It looks. like you're feeling pretty good. Congratulations, John Cena. 17 time. Smells like you're feeling pretty good. [Applause]. 17 time world champion. Yeah. Well, now that that's out of the way, what uh what can we discuss? What's. what's going on in everybody's life? Okay, so let's discuss some things. Um. Mr. Cena, when you made the decision to.

kick Cody Rhodess directly in the groin, was that just the beginning of the mind. games, knowing that whenever it came to. WrestleMania, whenever it came time for. Big Match Jon to show up, that maybe. that would get in the back of his mind. and you would inevitably one, two, three, become a world champion? Was all. of this just for last night to happen? Or is all of this because it's how you. truly feel about these wrestling fans. who I think in their words have. disrespected you over the last 20 years.

or so? So, uh, that's a that's a very. long- winded way for me to hear a. question that sounds like, "Hey, there's. a really cool thing going on on. television on Monday Night Raw and. Smackdown, and I want you to spoil. Monday Night Raw and Smackdown for me.". me. So, I'm not going to answer that. question at all. Okay. I appreciate uh. what we're doing on television and I. think that's you you've been in those. seats. You guys have both been there for. the excitement of Raw and the excitement.

of Smackdown and the excitement of. WrestleMania. Um there's just certain. certain lines I'm not going to cross. that I think are meant for Raw, meant. for Smackdown, and meant for premium. live events. So, uh, what I'm hearing. with that question is, "Hey, in this. awesome TV show, while we're in the. middle of the season, can you give me a. spoiler?" And my answer is no. Okay, so. no spoilers. How about this? Can you. give me an inside look in your brain. when that place is saying, "Let's go. Cena" much louder than the Cena sucks.

chance. Was there ever a time where you. maybe said, "Uh, you know what? Yeah, hey, thank you guys." Last night, was. there a moment of, "You know what? These. people have been riding alongside of me. and these people still do love John. Cena. Did you think about that last. night when you were in there? Not uh not. once. I've been pretty I' I've been. pretty clear um that I've done a lot of. work on myself to make sure that I'm. okay with me. And I think once you get. to that point uh and you have love in.

your life, starting with selflove and. you have loving connections in your. life, um you begin to realize the things. that are most important. I reference. your team. I always see the same people. around you behind the curtain. You have. your family. You have your close circle. You have people that you love. And. that's awesome. When times are good, but. I know you know about this. When times. get tough, those are the only people you. got. So, I've been I've been on a hell. of a ride and I've had a lot of folks. ride with me. And through the good.

times, you know, maybe there's a lot of. people and through the bad times there's. very few. And those are the people I try. to focus my time, effort, strength on. Well, you need to know, there's been a. few of us that have been there through. it all. Tai Schmidt is one of them. He. has a question for you, Mr. Cena. Oh, boy. This should be good. Without Well, listen, John, you know what I was. actually just going to say? Mine's less. of a question and more just I I'm in. your I'm in your corner. I'm right in. that in that boat rowing with you. I. don't think, you know, they everyone has. taken, you know, you for granted. I. think I probably have, too, you know. I.

I'll I'll admit it. So, I want you to be. as Did you think this would become a. therapy session? Not at all. No, listen. Not at all. No, man. I'm cool with this. I love leaning into difficult stuff. By. the way, thank you for sharing that. Keep coming. Keep going. So, I was I was. basically just going to say I I want you. to take this thing farther than than. maybe these people even think you. What. thing is that? I don't know. Coming down. the ramp and you know, if you spit in my. face tonight, I'll just I'll eat it. Like, hey, it is what it is. You're. probably right, Cole. There might there. might be some some a fetish sight or. something. We I mean, come on, John.

Let's not go that far. I mean, hey, there's something out there for. everybody. I don't judge nobody. Have. you thought about that though? Like have. I thought about spitting in your face. and you eating it? Not until you just. brought it up, but then I'm like, man, maybe we can, you know, like a like a. pay-per-view sort of thing. I don't. think you should fans. Only fans. Hey, you done only Yeah, I got an Only Fans. page. I got an Only Fans page. Yeah. So, we're going to No, we're going to table. that idea. Okay. All right. I like that. We're going to sidebar that later on. Have Have you thought though? Like I. haven't even scratched the surface on. this yet. There is so much lower I can.

go. I can I mean I can really scrape the. bottom of the barrel on this thing and. these people have no idea. Have you Have. you given that any consideration? Well, I I I don't know. I can't I can only. control what I can control, right? So, I. don't know how many I don't know how. many people actually listen to what I. say. I'm I'm going I'm going to ruin. wrestling. So, uh I they'll find out. tonight on Monday Night Raw. Why is. that? Wrestling has given so much so. much to all of us, yourself included.

Are you going to I am so exhausted and I. have. given everything to this. and it is. uh it is instant gratification. like this for me that's love man. Oh. yeah. When uh even though this is an. employee of a company we spent over two. decades together. That right there is. love. Did you hear what he said about. you? I don't have I don't have much of.

that beyond this because as much as. these people see what I show them, they. don't know me and they'll never know me. and they'll never know who I am. And. uh man, it's just You say they've given. me so much. Dude, I've also given every. effing thing I have. Absolutely. And now. I I'm you know I'm at my sunset and I. don't have you like I don't none of. these people know me man. Hell yeah. Amen. You know like we didn't.

we didn't do any of that stuff together. like Yeah. You I mean for real you guys. were there. That's great. But I'm the. one falling down like and that's I don't. know man. Like I. [Music]. Whoa, dude. You can Oh, beat his ass. Greatest of. all. No, no, that's greatest of all. time. None of you are going to be able. to see any wrestling cuz I'm going to. ruin that son of Okay. Okay. So, like.

whatever, man. And that that's that's. all I got to say about that. Like I it's. not a matter of like, uh, how far can I. stick the knife in them? No, I'm just. going to shut it down. That's it. I. respect it. Yeah, John. I was very. critical of you in the beginning of this. whole thing. Dude, you've been critical. for me 20 years. somewhat, but I think. because it was such a shock when all. this went down, knowing you for as long. as I have, um, and not. knowing that this was going to happen. I. mean, I it it it affected me.

emotionally, it really did. But, uh, in. retrospect, um, and I said it last night, you're the. GOAT. In my mind, you're the greatest of. all time. It doesn't matter how you're. acting in the ring now, how you acted 20. years ago. And I said this on commentary. when you won your 17th world title last. night and people were bitching and. moaning about how you won it cuz you, you know, Travis Scott got involved or. whatever the garbage was. At the end of. the day, at the end of the day, garbage. Ric Flair was the dirtiest player in the.

game and he won many championships in. the same way that you did last night. So. for people to be critical of the way you. won your 17th title, I think they're. being very hypocritical. You got it. done. You've been at the top of this. game for 20 years. You have the greatest. run of anybody that I've ever been. around and I congratulate you for that. Now, I don't love a lot of the things. you're saying about a lot of people, but. I do respect everything that you've. given me and you've given this business. Man, I'm entitled to feel how I want to. feel and it's not there's three sides to. every story. There's mine, there's.

yours, and there's the truth somewhere. in the middle. Uh unlike all of these. people, sometimes you get lost in the. sauce. Everybody gets together in a. group like this. You guys all get loud, you all get emotional. I'm a student of. the game and I said it Friday night on. Smackdown like winners write history and. I don't I don't get lost in the sauce. I. focus on writing history and that's why. I'm where I'm at. You know, for for a. lot of years when you get caught up into. this being a kid from a small town, coming from nothing, coming from. farmland and imagination land to get.

here is I'm not supposed to be here. So, you do get lost in all the enthusiasm. and the energy and then you kind of. realize like, oh man, this is coming to. an end. What are the things selfishly. that I want to do? Okay, I got a. legitimate chance to write history. So, I don't care what anyone else thinks. about my choices at the current time. I'm going to do finally what I want to. do for me. And you know, you're entitled to that, John. And whether your perspective is.

irrelevant. It's my it's my choice and. it's my decision and I'm just going to. do what what I want to do. And I and I. know that that's not going to mesh well. with everybody, but say what you want. about my actions currently. Say what you. want about my behavior in the past. You. can't knock my hustle. You can't knock. my loyalty to this company or brand. You. can't knock the respect that I have for. the the people before me. And you can't. knock the fact that I've honest I've. every single day that I've stepped in. the ring, I've been honest and.

vulnerable with the audience. And right. now, I'm not meshing well with you guys. and I'm just being straight with you. guys. But but I but I sort of Pat me. well. Pat, you'll get this. So So it's. okay for a group of people to have a. negative reaction towards me and I'm. supposed to say, "Oh, no, no, you're. entitled to do what you want." But if. I'm not feeling well, if I'm having a. bad day, if I'm if I'm for a second. feeling grumpy and I don't want to deal. with that BS, I can't do that. I can't. tell you how I feel. That's not a. functional relationship. That's not.

good. And that's what I mean. Like this is not good. This is not good. is what I'm saying. Like oneway street, brother. And if I if I got one more. thing to do before I go out, it's teach. these people what a functional. relationship is because they don't know. That's very nice of you to do that. I. think it's a good thing. Leaving place. better than when he left it. That's all. I'm trying to do. Unless you ruin. wrestling, which we can't have. No, I'm. dog. I'm just going to shut it down. That's all the Here's the thing. Ruining. wrestling is there's going to be a show.

Everybody's replaceable. There's always. another show. I'm going to make. wrestling start over. That championship. is coming home with me and I will be the. last undisputed WWE champion. Period. So, they're going to have to make a new. title. They're going to have to start. the clock over again. And whoever is. that first champion, whether it's Cody. Rhodess, whether it's Dirty Dom, whether. it's Logan Paul, whether it's Braun. Breaker, it doesn't matter. They'll be. the first one. Bruno, Hogan, Austin,

Rock, HBK, Taker, Game, every name you. can imagine. CM Punk, that comes home. with me because that's what I've earned. and that's what I want to do. I want to. write history and I'm going to put my. stamp on the business by taking that. piece of the business home with me. We. all we all talk about this new era and. we talk about how the business is. changing. Well, I'm taking the last. piece of tradition in the business home. with me and you guys can figure out how.

to set settle the dust when I'm gone. Period. Jeez. All right. Well, I'm excited to see how. they re Hey yo, you're a headline guy. There it is. Boom. I'm not going to. spoil TV for you, but there's your. headline. Thank you for not spoiling. Right. Hey, thank you for giving us a. little clarity on why you're doing what. you're doing as well. Now, I'm not. ignorant. I'm not saying that there's. never going to be another show. Of. course, there is. You guys will be here. next year without me. You'll be here the. year after without me. I don't care. I'm. cool. I'm cool in closing this chapter. of my life. There's one piece I'm taking. home with me, and that's so you guys can. figure out how you want to do it from.

here on out because you're not the same. folks I came in with. Period. Jeez. Wow. We've all grown because of you. Yeah. And I'm not the same person I started 20. years ago either, man. Well, after you. carry a company for 20 years, obviously. there's going to be a lot of difference. Uh, I don't care what you're doing. If. you're the same person you are 2 years. ago, you're not doing it right. There. should always be growth. There should. always be development every day. Yeah. Every moment. Yeah. With that being. said, I thought you looked really good. in the ring. Absolutely. So, you're the. one. I thought you looked jacked. I. actually did well. I thought you looked.

really jacked. I thought there was You. picked You picked I mean, there was a. lot of I mean, you looked prime, John. Cena. Dude, you have run out of [ __ ] to. talk about, huh? Now you Now you're. talking about my fitness. No, cuz uh the. last time is now is what everybody's. saying. You just said my last. Wrestlemania, I'm going away with how. good a shape you're in right now and how. good you're going. You're telling me. next year, two years from now, 3 years. from now, somebody doesn't come up and. say, "John, you just won your second. Oscar because Ricky Steniki is so damn.

good." Peacemaker. Peacemaker just won a. Grammy or Emmy or whatever. Boom. For that entire thing, you got a. Tony award because you probably did some. Broadway [ __ ] that you're going to be. able to sing somehow and none of us will. understand why you're so good at it. And. then they're going to say, "Oh yeah, there's a little dream match waiting at. Mania." How do you know? Like why are. you so sure? Cuz in this business, especially the guys that are in your. conversation, which are goat talk, it's.

like there's always a chance, isn't. there? Is there always a chance? Why are. you so sure that this is it? So, uh, this is one I'm going to address to the. world and the people behind me hopefully. will understand whether they like me or. they don't. Like I said, I'm always. shoot straight and I'm a man of. integrity and I'm a man of my word. And. when I got in this business and I. started to have some success in this. business and I had to to face almost. being fired to come out clean on the. other side. When I won my first title, I. made a promise. And back then it was.

like mythical. We never think we're. going to reach the end when we're 20some. years old. I said, "When I'm a step. slower, I'm gone. If you watch my stuff. from 2015 and you watch my stuff from. today, I'm a step slower." So, you know. what? I'm gone because I made that. promise to these people behind me. And. whether they like it or not, I know. wrestling retirements aren't real cuz. there's always a payout involved. I've. been in the business almost 25 years, and the business has been good to me. I've been smart with my money, and I I. will have a life without want, and I.

know how appreciated I am for that. Never once take that [ __ ] for granted. There is no amount of. money and there is not a check and this. is just a shot across the bow to any. casino owner, to any territory owner, to. any promotion owner. You can't write me. a check to bring me back in December. I. am done because of the promise I made to. them. Whether I like them or I don't, at. least I go out keeping my word. And for. them to understand that they may have.

some unpacking to do in their own. personal lives. I get to sleep sound at. night. I'm good. December, I'm gone. All. right. All right. I respect that. Barry. Sanders. That's Barry Sanders. Stop. And. that's why I was bringing up your shape. cuz you said you're a step slower. I I. thought you looked Yeah, but dude, you're high as [ __ ] out there all the. time. Oh, wa. Yeah, but all the time. Yeah. So, it's always the same. I don't. know, man. You got to warm up to the. peak to come out of the current. You're. like, man, this guy looks really fast. It's that scene in Tommy Boy where they.

pull him over. You know how fast you. were going? 13 mph and you pulled over. on the wrong side of the road last. night. You laid down and he said, "Still. got it." Yeah, I know you did. I know. you looked awesome last night. Another. guy uh from Massachusetts, Connor has a. question for you. Yeah, John, it's an. honor to be sitting up here with you. Sweet mustache, man. Hey, thank you very. much. I appreciate it. Mustache. I've. never heard that. You think about maybe. bringing one back, especially till Dude, I can't grow facial hair. I I haven't. shaved in 10 years. In this new era, you. might be able to stuff to I mean Okay. All right. Just something to consider.

Can I get some of that at the top? Yeah. Yeah, sure. I Hey, that looked good. I. thought you Dude, it's coming in. You. did something different. No, I did. I. did. It's coming in. It's coming in. Yeah. See, I listen to you idiots. I do. Now, John, what's the secret? Cuz I. could use a little bit of You have to. You have to take the ones from the side. and plant them in on the top. Exactly. You take the lawn over here and you put. it on the dry spot. It just takes a. while for it to come in. Yes. It looked. good. It has It's coming in, man. It's. coming. Hopefully in a couple months it. looks better. Hopefully in a couple. months it looks better than I thought it.

looked great last night. I'm going out. with a huge like a long hairy. Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully. Yeah, that's. Yeah, a little maybe. But I can't grow a. mustache. I got nothing. Well, again, we. can figure that out. I'll grow a little. patch right here. Put them on right. above the lip. There's another headline. for you. Hair transplant. There it is. Look at that. Boom. I'm dropping them, dog. Thank you, dude. Yeah. And there's. no shame in that, man. I got a problem. I try to fix it. That's what I'm Science. has come to a like, hey, you know what? This has been a thing. Let us help you. And I'm not going to tell you who did it. cuz I'm still waiting for it to get.

better. Once it gets better and I got. the long flowing locks and I'll be like, yo, go to this guy. And if you're. thinking about it, truly go to this guy. So, I'm working on it. Work in progress. Work in progress. Like I care, but work. in progress. It looks unbelievable. No, I just saw so many bald spot signs, you. know, and that's the thing when you get. it like so you get the deal, right? And. your hair falls out cuz the new ones. have to grow. So, the old one falls out. So like in January, February was like I. had it in November. That's when I came. like half a skin hit up here. And you. guys, by the way, thank you for being so.

aware of my needs and emotions cuz you. guys ripped me to shreds for a genetic. problem that I can't control. Hey, I'll. tell you what. Hey dude, you don't look. good enough out there. Like that's what. I'm saying. This isn't cool. You guys. aren't cool to me. Like this isn't Why. do you think I did? I'm in the Rumble, you know, trying to win and like, man, I. a bald spot. Like, yo, that's not fair. I can't control that. It happens to. seven out of 10 dudes. Like, but hold. on. Hold on, though. Their hair shaming. of you has made it what? Better. I think.

you went and made some plays. Hair's. grown in full. I get it. Yo, I get. leaning into uncomfortable stuff is. like, "Hey, maybe if if you got a good. friend and they tell you like, maybe. don't wear that out." That's cool. One. of you sons of [ __ ] could have pulled. me to the side. No, but in unison you chance and you. make me feel small and you embarrass me. Like, y'all don't know what that's like. That is straight up bullying it is. And. that's that's just not cool. I don't. like it. That's not cool. Hair look. good, though. If it means anything. Yeah. So So thank you for bullying me.

into getting surgical hair replacement. Like that's how far that's how far y'all. push me. I I just appreciate that. But. yo, it's coming in. Come on fuzzies. Come on fuzzies. Yeah, it does look. fantastic. Tangents. Anyway, here we go. Uh, you mentioned, you know, taking Did. you think this Do you think this would. go like this? No, not at all. All right. Cool. Cool. But it's going great. Is. that for you, Cole? Uh, but, you know, you mentioned Dom and Logan kind of the. new era. Who's going to take it over? Did you have any thoughts about the.

other, you know, Wrestlemania matches, whatever? That is not pertaining to me, so I can spoil the hell out of that. Uh, Don Mysterio is is born for this, period. and and I got to I got to work with him. very early in his career and I've had. the chance to work with experienced. talent, but I've also had the chance to. work with a lot of new talent and you. can tell right away there's always u you. know late arrivals people can like not. get it and then figure it out. I'm a a. living example of that. But there's also.

those people like god damn I remember. Randy Orton just making everything look. so easy. Dom just makes everything. effortless and he doesn't crack under. pressure and any pool we've dropped him. in, he has not only treaded water, he's. swimming laps around everybody else. Don. Mysterio, we we ain't even close to what. that kid's capable of. He's he's. incredible and he's he's going to be. incredible for the next 20 years or as. long as he wants to be in this business. He will be and I love his dad. Like he's.

another one is a close connection. I. love that dude. He will be the most. famous Mysterio in professional in. profession. He already he already thinks. that I think which is part of the that's. I love the confidence dog. I love that. I love that. I remember I remember a. young man such as myself who created a. fake PhD, you know, a doctorate in. thuggonomics just to let everybody know. we need a new album. What do you mean. fake? You do not. We need a new album. Actually, I got it I got it from one of. them online schools. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. And Logan Paul. Logan Paul's a.

stud. I text him right away after his. match. I'm like, "Dude, you are. innovative." From his entrance to. holding a drone to thinking like on. another level of like, "I'm going to. swing big and try something different.". I thought that was [ __ ] I thought that. was dope. And then his performance, he's. doing stuff that I I couldn't do at peak. physical condition. So, regardless of. how if you like him or you hate him, he's doing athletic moves that are. better or as good as any any of the. wrestlers out there, any of the trained. wrestlers. And here's what I like most.

about Logan Paul. He doesn't give two. shits if y'all like him or not. He does. it as himself and he's okay. He's like, yo, this dude is a stud. I every there's. going to come a time when y'all wake up. to Logan Paul. This dude, he got here. late. That shouldn't be a penalty for. him. He is a WWE superstar. He belongs. in that ring with everybody else. And I. know he's always going to be himself, but whether you boo him or not, you are. going to pay to see that kid because he.

is unreal. Perfect setup for him to be a. WWE superstar. Amateur wrestler in high. school and college content creator. Has. been hated on the internet long time for. a long time. He's got he has He's. literally callous. He is, man. And not. only calloused, like he's been hated, but he's also been through the fire. Like, oh man, you'll never work in this. town again. He's had that phone call 10, 12 times. He doesn't care. He just. there's a dude who never gives up. He. will just keep getting up, man. And. content creators have to always be. thinking as [ __ ] Not everything's.

great, but you always have to be. thinking, thinking, thinking. And you. brought up that drone. He caught a. drone. I didn't know that. It looked. like he was taking a selfie and then he. let it go. And I'm like, how are they. What's the camera on the string? And. then he caught that. Caught the thing. like it was a bird flying back to him. like a parrot. I I I didn't know that. was possible. And then puts on a a great. match after that. Yeah. And AJ Styles. obviously. Oh, you don't have to. AJ's. he's just is one of the best. You don't. have to go there. How about him? He's. jacked right now. He is. He is. I mean, I feel small around these guys. Randy.

Randy and Batista switch bodies somehow. Wow. Randy. Ry's life somehow. No, Ry's. also like a foot taller. Holy [ __ ]. Weapon. I mean, I talked to Ry's belly. button. I don't know how he did it. He's. a foot taller and 300 lb heavier. I. don't know what's going on. Speaking of. you and Randy, let's go back to that OVW. class, right? It was you, Randy. Barack. was in there. Yeah. Shelton Benjamin, Batista, Batista, Shelton, all at OVW in. Louisville with Rip same time. Yeah. And. do you think when did you I got to shout. out Danny Davis and Jim Cornet, too.

Those are two guys who were Rip Rogers. as well, but those are three guys that. brain trust. Uh they had their own. method of doing business, but man, they. they allowed us to respect the business, the appreciate what we're trying to do. Um the the foundation of storytelling, the foundation of physical fundamentals. We we were the right group, but we had. the right mentorship. You all knew you. were going to make it? No. Not that you. thought you were going to Everybody knew. Brock was going to make it. Yeah. And I. know I I think everybody knew Randy. would get a chance, but like you got to.

remember sitting in OVW, you got The. Rock on TV, Mankind on TV, Undertaker, Stone Cold, Steve Austin, HBK, like even. the low-level guys, even the opening. match had storylines. I mean, you were. there. Yeah. There was no room for. anybody. And then like the meltdown. happened, you know, Austin left and and. Rock left and they changed the name and. the XFL failed for the first time. So I. was like, man, we we need a new look. We. need guys. And dude, ruthless, bro. We. were ready. Ruthless. Well, in many.

ways, that's where we're at now with the. company. Yo, that's that's why there's. never there has never been a better time. to be a WWE superstar than right now. because, man, the the pay is great. The. way they treat the talent is incredible. This is not me talking to you about our. relationship, but the way y'all show up. for these for the new talent, for the. NXT talent, for for the LFG talent, like. for for Wrestlemania, for Raw, you guys. you guys show up. Yes. I can deal with.

our relationship on television, but you. guys show up for this. And because you. are, you're allowing these people to. know like, yo, this is a viable, awesome. career choice. Live dreams and live. well. And yeah, man. Thank you for. paving the way, too. I know there's a. lot of bumps, dude. No. Yeah, because. first time I saw you. First time I saw. you. Uh, we If If you're gonna say that, you got to go the road before and the. road before we go back to Buddy Rogers. and all the the carnival wrestling and. all that. Like, I I appreciate my little. chunk. That's why I'm okay closing the.

chapter, but there's 20 years. Yeah, I. understand that that was your little. chunk and there were those that came. before you, but you came before me. So, uh, very much appreciative of trying to. finish first, man. Just trying to finish. first. But I watched you at Metife. promoting a Wrestlemania. It was Colts. were playing I think the Jets and you. came out in the warm-ups and you had to. have just came. I think you were working. the night before. We were watching and. you walked out there and you were. standing in the middle of the stadium. and you gave the most impassion speech. I've ever seen. They had you before.

warm-ups. There's probably like 15,000. people in the stands or whatever. Everybody knows you're a mass guy. You. did this entire speech. You turn around, you walk off and I go, "Mr. Cena, thank. you for that." and he goes, "Hopefully. we moved some tickets." So, you kept it. moving. It's like, you've been a. consmate professional for the WWE. You. showed up for the WWE every single night. of your life for two decades. Even at a. 15,000 seat arena promotion before. preseason or before warm-up start, talking about the autographs that you've. done, the Makea-Wishes that you've done,

the roads that you've traveled on your. bus, it's like you're a dog, dude, for. this business. An absolute dog. So, whenever you talk about this next. generation of talent and how good of a. time it is in WWE, your [ __ ] ass is. one of the biggest reasons on why it is. such a good time in the WWE. Congrats on. your 17th title. I know you're not going. to respond on anything for that, but. you've earned all this [ __ ] Go ahead, Deb. Yeah, you guys have talked about. talked about Dom, Randy, Logan. I'm I'm. I'm still pissed off. I'm seems like I'm. the only guy up here that believes in.

Joe Hendrick, but besides that No, you're not. No, I thought so. Uh Joe's. awesome and I got a chance to meet Joe. at the Rumble face to face and he had a. small moment in the Rumble and he's. like, "Hey, uh you're good at this. How. do I make this more?" And I gave him. some advice of like you don't you go out. there and you be yourself and you make. your moment your moment. When you try to. make your moment more than is given, that's selfish and you're a small piece. of a greater show. And I thought he did.

excellent at the Rome. And last night I. thought he was brilliant. What I got to. do is if I'm a new if I don't know that. kid, I got to know him. He got to do his. stuff. He got to be in a Wrestlemania. match with Randy Orton. Hell yeah. And. he got a a fantastic moment and giving. Randy his 20th Wrestlemania. But we got. an introduction on a large level to Joe. Henry. Just because I didn't bring his. name up doesn't mean I'm sour on the. kid. No, no, no. I think I think he's. going to I think he's going to be a. major player. Like and it because I hope. not. He loves it. He loves it and he.

gets it right. He hates it. Hey, but. speak the cool the cool thing is I like. him. I don't. There's the chemistry with. me. Yes. So, I I'm I'm I He's got a. great mind. But speaking of fantastic. moments, despite your relationship with. these fans, how did work on that? How. you'll work on I'm sure the toxic. relationship, but how did it feel when. you won the 17th title? Like, how how. was that moment with you, your mind, your body in that moment when you got up. on the turnbuckles and you actually did. it? So, we're going to reflect on all. that stuff in December. And right now, I. don't want to talk about anything that's.

going on through my mind because I don't. want anyone to get a false. representation of the things they're. going to see on Raw, Smackdown, and. premium live events. Okay? Uh I I will. promise you, I promise all you guys, cuz. I know you'll all be on the panel, you. might not be there soon as that last. match happens. I know you guys are doing. a show the next day. If I can't be on. that next show, I will be on as soon as. I possibly can. Hell yeah. And then we. can talk about all this. But until then, the reason these people show up is. because they want the excitement, the.

unpredict unpredictability, uh, and the. uncertainty of WWE programming. And I'm. I'm just not going to I'm not going to. spoil that for me. I'm not going to. spoil that for Congratulations. Yeah. Congratulations to you. We will see you. tonight on Monday Night Raw, 8:00 p.m. Eastern on Netflix with a 17 time world. champion. That's a big number, dude. John C. I thank you. I thank you.

[Music]. The goat. The. [Music]. goat. The. goat. The. goat. The goat. Hell yeah. Always training. Always. training. That's right.

AJ Hawk just tried to alpha John Cena. I did not hear just uh Yeah, he probably. just come over here. Slide him over. I'm learning, Connor. I'm learning. You're doing a great job. Ladies and. gentlemen, AJ. Hawker. Yes. Hey, I like this version of. John Cena. What was it? What is this. version of John Cena? Feels real. Feels. like the guy is very comfortable. It.

feels real and obviously dominated last. night. What do you think he's going to. say tonight on Monday Night Raw? I've. been hearing a lot of uh like teasers. that something big is happening tonight. Yeah, he's got to be saying something. massive tonight, right? I'm not giving. anything away. I got to address some. stuff tonight on Monday Night Raw. Paul. Heymon will be joining us in about 20. minutes or so. Is he going to be on. Monday Night Raw tonight? The RAW after. Mania is always absolutely bananas. Michael Cole, what are you expecting for. this evening? Raw. Raw after Mania. I. mean, anything. It's going to be an. incredible night. I want to hear if Seth.

Rollins is going to explain why he did. what he did. I want to hear what Cena. has to say. Dominic's going to be there. He's the brand new Intercontinental. Champion. Uh, what's Gunther and Jay. Uso's reactions going to be to the World. Heavyweight Championship? You know, I. did want to say one thing about John. And you know, Pat, you and I have talked. a lot over the last couple of weeks. about the change in John and his. character. Um, I sort of after he. explained today, I can sort of. sympathize and with that a little bit. because I've gone through a lot of that. in my career and um the just the.

evolution and getting to the point where. he only got a few more years left and. it's like, you know what, I just want to. be myself now. I I don't give a damn. about being a puppet anymore or doing. that stuff. I want to be who I am and um. hopefully the la next couple of years we. can do that. Yeah. But you haven't been. blaming the fans for it. I think that's. the thing. John Cena said like I've been. taking a deep dive in all this and it's. you the fans that have been making me. feel the way I felt over the last 20. years. But I think some of the fans, Tai, yourself included alongside Debbone.

have taken a long look in the mirror and. said, "Yeah, maybe it is our fault.". Hasn't that kind of been the case? Without a doubt. I mean, you just look. back and this guy's given me so much. What have I given him? You know what? Really? What have I given him? Nothing. I mean, I I Bone was a little bit more. because when Cena first started kind of. going at the fans, you know, Bone crying. in the office, you know, just like a big. ball of just nerves and, you know, last. night even Bone was kind of, you could. see he was he was kind of trapped in his. emotions. He didn't know whether he was.

supposed to be excited for Cena, if he. should really kind of look into himself. and say, "What have I done for this guy? I haven't done anything." Travis Scott. came out. I saw him last night. That was. cool. He loved it. You guys loved it, right? Did he springboarded over top of that. rope with ace? That was bounce. Now, he. got crossroaded pretty quickly there by. Cody Rhodess. A little bit. I was. worried about it. Little bit of a. receipt. I will say I got a fresh new. pair of boom. Oh, okay. Look at the. bottom of those. What are those? Shack.

West, Chase B. Huh? You know, the guy. that created uh Mo Bomba, the Jack Boys, if you will. They were in. the house last night. Oh. They said, "Hey Pat, we brought these for you.". Actually, I got handed these after. That's awesome. Literally, as I'm on the. way out, "Hey man, these are for you. We. brought these for you." I was like, "Excuse me?" They're like, "You're size. 12, right?" I said, "Yeah." They This is. for you. Handed them to me. I got brand. new shoes from Travis Scott. Freel. Then.

I had to think to myself. I said, "What? What?" Travis Scott's gave me shoes. Papatouille got sent to the office the. other day. Yeah. Tamana got sent to the. office the other day. Delicious. John. Cena just came on the show. So, what are. they what's about that time? What's. going on here? What is the deal? Are we. being recruited right now? I'll tell you. that hardcore title was earned last. night by Travis Scott. He took a. crossroads that I didn't think he was. going to be able to get back up from. He. did. He celebrated with Cena. And I. believe he was calling Cody Rhodess a.

[ __ ] the whole time. Is that what you. were hearing, Michael? Yeah, of course. That's what he was calling Cody Rhodess. the entire time. I just like his swagger. when he walked out to the ring. It's the. middle of a match. A match is happening. right now. Pretty big match. You know, you hear a lot of people pretty big. match. You hear a lot of people complain. about Travis being involved in this. whole thing. He's one of the biggest. stars on the planet and he was involved. in Wrestlemania. There you go. That's. all you need to know. And Fiend was the. official theme of Wrestlemania. Heard. that a lot. Yeah. I don't think we heard. it enough. Actually, I I I won't be able.

to get that out of my head for probably. the next. year. FE theme. I'm sure we'll get it tonight. I'm. looking forward to it. I It's catchy. though, isn't it? It is. It's very. catchy cuz as you get into it's hard to. Yeah, it's kind of. hard. Uh, big news happening in the. sports world. The Philadelphia Eagles. had to figure out their center after. Jason Kelsey retired to go do the New. Heights podcast. They live a life of.

celebrity. They have extended their. center. Cam Jurgens. wins the Super Bowl. Has to replace. Jason Kelsey. Has done a fantastic job. Four years, 68 million, 39 point. guaranteed. That ties him to the. Philadelphia Eagles through 2029. Big. business happening before draft night. for the Philadelphia Eagles. They've. paid Saquon. They paid Cam. They've paid. Jaylen Herz. They paid Devonte Smith.

And what's going on with AJ Brown? What. was there was some stuff. Oh yeah, there. was some chitter chatter about AJ Brown, wide receiver of the Eagles. Yeah, they're tying him to New England. They're saying, "Hey, if Abdul Carter. falls to four, don't be surprised if the. Eagles try and partner a little deal. with AJ Brown, maybe another pick to. move up to four, take Abdul Carter. because the whole New England with Mike. Vrabel and AJ Brown, their relationship. from Tennessee, it goes all the way. back. Obviously, New England needs a. wide receiver. I don't see that.

happening." Uh, I mean, Nick Serriani, what did he He wore AJ Brown's high. school jersey the day after they won the. Super Bowl. Was wasn't that his move. when he was doing the press conference? So, probably not. But, uh, it sure. sounds like uh, Abdul Carter wants to be. a Philadelphia Eagle. We're in smoke. screen season. AJ Hawk, everybody's. lying to everybody right now. Yeah. Why. would why would AJ Brown want to leave. the the Eagles, though? You think he. wants to be traded? I mean, there was a. lot of chatter last season that Nick. Serioni had to keep the uh, you know, the train. You win the Super Bowl,

doesn't that everything goes under the. rug? They just signed Saquon Barkley, though. They just recommitted to, hey, we are going to be a run first team. And. if AJ Brown's cool with that, cool. And. if AJ Brown's not cool with that, you. can see how maybe uh they could probably. get about 18 targets a game with New. England, couldn't he? Ruffling some. feathers if you wanted to. I mean, that. you don't want to leave a a great. situation. We know wide receivers want. touches. Always drama around big- time. wide receivers. He is one of the best. one-on-one wide receivers when it's out. there. But this is a team built, you. know, for wide receivers to make a.

sacrifice. They're built off the run. game to get the most explosive plays up. there. Um, you see the investment on the. offensive line. It's going to be. interesting to see how this plays out, but I I'm I'm with you. I don't I don't. think it's no it's no chance they get. rid of AJ right now. In other big NFL. news from the weekend, uh, the. Washington Commanders under the new. ownership, Josh Harris, Magic Johnson, and team have negotiated a deal with. Washington DC for a new stadium back in. the District of Columbia. Congratulations. [Applause]. Three billion going back to RFK campus.

in time for a 2030 kickoff. That feels. like forever and obviously I assume it's. very easy to get things done in. Washington DC. I assume there's not a. lot of red tape or things like that in. the District of Columbia. I assume this. will be a fantastic stadium because. their current one is absolute shite. There's a lot of those around the NFL. right now. Happy to see teams getting it. fixed though, Michael Cole. Yes, indeed. And uh you know, we were in a great.

facility for Wrestlemania this weekend. That. elite absolutely incredible. The newer. things you can tell like Font and Blue. Okay. The hotel that we are staying at. here and have stayed at here. It was. built or opened in 2023. 2 years old. Brand new. Like everything in Vegas, no. offense, has been built for so long. Like it's been around. It's been around. Everything's so big, too. So to renovate. or remodel, it would cost so much money. and everybody would have to shut down. So you're kind of like at at the mercy.

of whatever the time period was whenever. you built your hotel. The Font and Blue. just launched in. 2023. State-of-the-art everything. So. that that was the nicest hotel I've ever. stayed in. Every time you build a new. one out here, if you've been coming to. Vegas, like every whether it's Arya or. Cosmo, they always kind of got to do one. up. Just like these stadiums, like we. talked about how incredible that stadium. is. It's It wasn't a bad spot. Wherever. we went on the underbellies of the. stadium, it was incredible seeing it. When I landed at night, just driving by,

it just looks like some [ __ ] from the. future. Just unbelievable. Las Vegas is. a great city, man. Great. Host anything. What's that? To host anything. Yes, for. real. Cuz you guys were walking across a. bridge to get over here, I guess. Is. that accurate? I guess there were some. shots last night of people leaving, walking across a bridge back into the. strip area. Everybody's joyful, having a. good time. Wrestlemania. How you doing? Keep it moving. Did you Well, not. everybody's joyful. Did you see that guy. on the escalator? What happened? She was trying to work. his way up the escalator going down. Yeah, he had to tap out. I'll tell you. what, the others working around him and.

completing the task of getting to the. top and him just having to realize he he. was not built for that right there. Anytime you're trying to go up the down. escalator, you're signing up for a. little bit of a trick here. You're going. to have to do at least eight times the. amount of steps to get up to the top. And if he was built the way he was. built, and I don't like to judge people, but normally those who are pretty active. are not built that way. Correct. I like. the blind confidence that he was going. to be able to do that cuz that thing was. rolling pretty good. Oh yeah. And then. all of a sudden he gets about three.

steps away. Start tossing the shoot. Yeah. He just. tossed everything he had up there. Losing weight, take the shirt off and he. just starts coming back and people are. swim moving him on the way up. That had. to be a tough experience. Well, and. we're not talking like your your. standard mall escalator. There's like. three story. Yeah. So, like you at the. top of this building. Yeah, exactly. I. mean, the one in the hotel is at least. three stories tall. So, like you got to. know when you're going up. So many. celebs. Yeah. So many celebs. Feels like. we announced everybody legit. It was.

like every segment that we were showing. more and more celebs. We were getting. cards just thrown at it with people with. handwriting. Hey, this is uh Donna Rogo. Oh, yeah. That guy. I love that guy. Jir. Gibbs. I felt so shout out Jamir Gibbs. Hey, we drank beer with KD in the crowd. Yeah, George KD gave us a beer in the. middle of the show last night and it was. it was pretty w it was pretty wild out. there. It was awesome. Little yachty. hanging around there. Quo was like, "P I. have beer." Yep. No problem. Quo, can I.

give you one of Steve Olson's beers. here? Rick Rubin, who's one of my. all-time favorites, was there on. Saturday. Rick Rubin front row. I I. think because of the way the seats were. kind of set up, he was getting I mean it. was Kirk Herb Street. Yeah, Herby. Herby. was locked in for three and a half hours. straight. I'm looking over at Herby at. one point and his face is just like. when Joe Henry Randy Orton was. happening. Yeah. His smile's blown. Kirk. had no idea how one of these things is. not like the other. Correct. Yeah, he. was. So Kirk was like, "How?" Kirk.

looked over at me a couple times. He was. like, "How?" We like the guy with the quads, right? Rainy's got the biggest quads. I've ever seen. He is massive. Quadzilla. and then his upper body is absolutely. stacked. Joe Hendry walked out there. with his TNA title and said, "I'll be. the one if it has to be someone." All. right, Howard two will be on the other. side. We got Paul Heymon joining us, the. wise man turncoat or. mastermind. We shall see. I think uh I. think when today's show is done and.

done, everybody will say that was a hell. of a week from Las Vegas. get us back to. the Thunderdome and then to the draft in. Green Bay, Wisconsin. What a week you. have. Big. announcement. Coach Mike McCarthy, formerly of the Green Bay Packers, will. be joining us Thursday night in Green. Bay for our draft spectacular. Be a. friend. Tell a friend something nice. that might change their life. [Music]. [Applause].

I feel. [Applause].

[Music]. No problem being a bad guy. Cody Rhodess wanted to do it fair and. square. John Cena didn't give a damn. Chad Patton is back. You cannot be a. perfect ambassador. Cover by Cena. Cover. by Cena. Patton's in the ring.

John Cena has set the record. John Cena. is a 17 time world champion. Here is. your. winner, the. new. undisputed. WWE. [Applause]. champion Cena. You may not like it. In fact, you'll. probably hate it. But at the end of the.

day, like it or not, John Cena is the. GOAT. There is no longer a debate with a. 17th world title. John Cena is the. greatest of all time. Cena is the. biggest piece of garbage I have ever. witnessed in this industry. Wait, I. agree with you. Screw you, John. But Ric. Flair didn't win 16 world titles being a.

nice guy. He was the dirtiest player in. the game. John Cena did the same thing. tonight and he set the record at. Wrestlemania. Travis Scott came out to. assist. Czech West and Chase B are here. He used the title off of Cody's head and. here we are. celebrating the greatest of all time. when it was all said and done.

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now. Mania has been awesome. There has been. shows literally since the moment we got. here all the way through late last night. and today all capping with Raw after. Mania tonight from T-Mobile Arena, right? T-Mobile. Yep. T-Mobile Arena. That's where we're going after this. That'll be on Netflix at 8:00 p.m. Eastern. And John Cena has some. explaining to do. Dirty Dom is probably.

going to be celebrating in our faces. And what will Paul Heymon be doing. tonight on Monday Night Raw? We'll find. out as he joins us in about 14 minutes. or so. Who's us? Well, it's some members. of the WWE Universe. It's also the toxic table at Boston. Connor and at Tai Schmidt. It's. nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Paul. Thank. you very much. It's one half of the. hammer down Cowboys AP Tone and it's WWE.

GOAT, the voice of the WWE just got done. with his 28th Wrestlemania. Ladies and. gentlemen, Michael Cole. [Applause]. Cole, big story line coming out of. Wrestlemania in your eyes. Going in your. projections and thoughts, coming out. your projections and thoughts. Um, I. mean, obviously the massive story is the. fact that John Cena won his 17th World.

Championship to set a record. John was. here moments ago. He said he's going to. tell the world what the next step is and. how he is going to uh, what was the term. he used? Um, end professional wrestling. as we know it. Ruin ruin professional. wrestling and make everybody put a uh, a. reset button is basically what he said, debut. Is that right? It was uh, you. know, I don't blame him. I don't blame. him. I'm I am interested to see what is. the next chapter, how he ends it tonight. or in his mind how it actually comes to. life. I'm interested. Raw aftermania is. always elite. And you mentioned Paul.

Heymon here in a matter of moments. I'm. sure he'll be on Monday Night Raw. tonight. We need to know why Seth. Rollins sold out for lack of a better. term to the wise man. Yeah, I agree. And. uh con man, this is uh now multiple. Wrestlemania for you. How'd you feel. about the crowd in Allegiance Stadium? Uh I thought the crowd was great. I. think it's different for a Mania like. this cuz last year Mania, you know, take. the scene of surprise solo. They had all. the that that run at the end whereas.

this year it felt more like a, you know, like a movie at the end with, you know, the entire Heymon thing with Seth. Rollins, with uh Roman, with CM Punk, like it was, you know, I believe you. said cinema earlier. I think cinema was. a is a good way to describe it because. like last year it had the loud the big. moments that everybody wants to have and. you know it wasn't quite like uh the. stone cold when he came out with with KO. but it was those type of you know loud.

pops surprises last year where this year. it was like wow look at what they're. doing with the entire storyline like I I. I for one did not see that coming. I. remember where me and Debb were sitting. Uh Debbut actually said, "Oh my god, Haymon's grabbing a chair." And so when. that entire thing happened, like it was. kind of like a shocking what is going. to, you know, go on. So it was. incredible and I thought the fans were. uh just as good. I think there was a lot. of title changes. Jay Uso obviously. getting a massive win to kick the entire. weekend off. The heat was spectacular.

His press conference afterwards was also. electrifying, Ty, don't you think? Without a doubt. I mean, the the crazy I. mean, and you guys especially, you guys. have been on TV for 36 of the last 48. hours, you know, just going non-stop. I. love Vegas. I mean, that feels like it. was it feels like it was a year ago. It. was it was two nights ago. Like, it I'll. tell you what, this city is awesome. It. can it can do some some crazy things to. you, but I think overall, you know, like.

the venue last night, it's hard just not. to get intoxicated with everything. AP. Tone, I saw you having some booze and. enjoying yourself. I saw you slap hands. of Randy Orton, almost come your pants. immediately. Yeah, I had my. Wrestlemania. It would be funny if that was a joke. It. actually happened. Uh I had my. Wrestlemania moment. Yeah. With with the. Viper last night. He was walking off. Got the high five. Got the fist pound. from him. He's been a legend for so. long. And when you talk about a WWE. superstar, that's him. Like that's. that's the mold that I love in my WWE. superstar. Someone who just looks like.

an absolute monster. And that was Yeah, that was really cool last night. Yeah, it was a fantastic thing. And um. whenever you talk about new tag team. champs on there, Lyra Valkyia is now a. double champion, which is a wonderful. thing for her. So quickly into her. career has she become absolutely. dominant in the WWE. The big question. though is why in the. hell did Seth Rollins team up with the.

wise man? Ladies and gentlemen, [Applause]. well well here. Okay. Wow. Okay. [Music].

Thank you for. [Applause]. [Music]. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Paul. Haymon. I'm done. [Applause]. [Music]. Don't break my heart again. Don't break. my heart again, Paul. Don't do it, Paul.

Man, don't break my heart again, Paul. Please. Why did you do that? [Music]. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music]. So this gentleman right here,

I call you a gentleman and you laugh. Okay. So this jerk off right here, says to me, "How could I do it? I did it just to piss you personally. off. Nobody else. Nobody else in the WWE. universe. Just you. I did it all just. for you.

personally. Now, what the are you going to do about. it? [Applause]. And the answer is the same thing that. Roman Reigns and CM Punk are going to do. about it. Not a god damn thing. Jeez, it's Easter yesterday. Oh my god. Yeah, you're right.

So. please be unlike your daughter and keep. your mouth. Jeez Louise. Wow. Sorry, Sarah. Watch me. Yeah, we. apologize. Holy [ __ ] Holy [ __ ] Holy [ __ ] Holy. [ __ ] Would you like this or would you. like the uh It's up to. you. Oh, back at commentary. Paul E.

dangerously is about to break down the. action. Let me tell you, uh Paul, I. watched your work at the roast of uh. Wrestlemania last night. I think you. caught a couple bodies out there last. night. That was quite a moment. I was. lucky to be there. I will say I was. lucky to be there. But it feels like. there is this edge to you right now, more so than ever before. Was this the. plan whenever you joined Seth Rollins? Get a little bit more edgy, let people. know they suck more. How are you feeling. on this particular overreaction Monday.

with my hands? All right. Okay. How are. you feeling mentally and emotionally on. this particular overreaction Monday? Mania Monday. Lose your best friend. lately? No. Lose the ability to worship your own. tribal chief lately? No. I could still. do this one rand. No problem. Wish I could too, but that. was taken away from me, wasn't it? My savior did not resurrect himself on.

Easter Sunday yesterday. He couldn't cuz. he was put down on Saturday and there. was no resurrection. There was no. benediction. There was no absolution in. the life of the tribal chief Roman. Reigns. And there couldn't be. Let's be. clear about this. I didn't betray Roman. Reigns. What. did I put my hands on Roman Reigns on. Monday night and shove him down to the. canvas in front of millions of people. watching at home? I didn't touch Roman. Reigns. What did I do? I got shoved down. to the canvas. I got I got I I I got.

emasculated in front of the entire WWE. universe by my tribal chief Roman. Reigns. I pleaded with him. I would My. best friend did a favor. Saved Roman. Reigns' family. Best friend. CM Punk. I. agree with you. CM Punk. Not much of a. best friend. Look at the position that. he put me in. What a compromising position CM Punk put. me in against my own tribal chief. You. know, you know what that'd be like? That'd be like, Pat, Pat, thank you so. much. Thank you so much for all that you.

do, Pat. Check out this hot broad from. Vegas. She's all yours. You go, oh man, I got my wife and my kid with me. Let's. not even explore that possibility. Really, Pat? Why? Here's a possibility. for you. What happens in Vegas stays in. Vegas and do it. right and do it right in front of your. wife. Yeah, that'd be no fun. My house. would burn down. That's what you're. saying. Got it. Got it. Okay. So, CM. Punk put you in a bad spot with the. tribal chief because you owed him a. favor. So, you're mad at him. So, what. kind of best friend was CM Punk? That.

was bad. But who? A lousy best friend. A. fitty best friend. So does. That's. right. That's right. A shitty best. friend. That's right. Here's Michael. Cole. going like the like the criticism. belongs to me. Criticism belongs to CM. P. Paul, your entire life and career, you have gone to people that pay you the. money, that give you the spotlight, so. you can leash off them. Whoa. So, I want to know I want. [ __ ] I want to know how much Seth. Rollins paid you to pull off this this.

thing that happened on Saturday night. You are a businessman. About a dollar. less than Vince McMahon used to pay you. to be J.R.'s lackey. Got him. Wise man. I'm sorry. Were you going to. the lowest bidder back then? Never saw. you jump to WCW. Never. I don't see you. going to Jacksonville anytime soon. Oh, so you're staying with the highest. bidder, right? So, you're just like the. hooker, guys. I'm loyal to people unlike.

someone else that is sitting next to me. And did you forget that you were the one. that put your entire career and. reputation on the line by turning Taz. and I into the number one commentary. team in WWE. That was because of you. Had nothing to do with Jim Ross or. anybody else. You believed in us. You. put backed us. You're welcome. So there. you go. And now how's he treat you now? He's telling you the same way CM Punk. treated me. Treats me like crap. And. then and and then and then accuses me of. being disloyal. I was loyal to CM Punk.

I brought him back after the hell in the. cell. I gave him a spotlight. I gave him. a chance to redeem himself with the. tribal chief Roman Reigns. And he puts. me in this. impossible impossible. emotional compromising position. That. was an absolute no win. Wasn't not only. was it a no- win, it was a must lose. with my tribal chief Roman Reigns. And. that's my best friend. He's as. appreciative as you are. How could you.

take that moment away from Punk? You. guys had built this for 20 years. Main. event no wait a minute. You can't back. that up. What was his dream to main. event Wrestlemania? What did he do? He. made event at Wrestlemania. Was living. color playing him? Did I Did I ruin his. day? Did I sit there all day fetching. going, you know, I wish I could be in. the corner. I wish I could hold you. follow. I never did that. What' I do? I. pumped him up. I primed him. I hugged. him. I gave the man love and. affirmation. I gave him the support he. needed to main event Wrestlemania. You.

rubbed him in the back. That was my. promise. You rubbed him in his back to. soften it up. My promise. My promise was. to be in his corner for WrestleMania. I. honored my promise. I honored my. commitment. How am I disloyal to CM. Punk? Nobody is making the case against. me. I am. How? Yeah, I hit him right in. the balls. Damn right I did. And you you. did the same thing to the guy who was. gave you everything for All right,

forget about this. Okay, so Roman Reigns. threw your face to the canvas on Monday. You said that's on my tribe. I'm sorry. I'm bringing up bad memories there. Looks like you're getting a little bit. emotional there. And I I know it's a. tough I know. Tough situation. Tough. shove, too. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. vicious. He threw your face. I didn't. like it either. I didn't like the still. photos. Everybody had a still photos. His hand on your face. I didn't like it. So you think that he disrespected you on. that particular day? Was Seth freaking. Rollins the visionary, the.

revolutionary Seth freaking Rollins? Is. he the one that's coming up to you and. telling you about all these things? Like. you think CM Punk's a good person, put. his arm around you, trying to smooch you. whenever he knew Roman was coming to. town. You think Roman cares about you at. all? Was it Seth kind of pushing and. needling you? Or was it you going to. Seth saying, "Please, Mr. visionary. You are the future of the. business that I would like to work. alongside. If you could just give me a. peak behind the curtain in that. relationship, I think I would be very.

thankful. And I'm sorry it's emotional. one day. It's a lot has happened. You're a Hall of Famer married to the. game. Congratulations. [Music]. Well earned. [Music]. Sometimes the truth is so right in front. of you that that that you do these. Kennedy assassination conspiracy. theories to try to wow figure out what's. really going on. And and and. this this is a straight line. Yes. And.

it doesn't take me to point it out to. Seth Rollins and it doesn't take Seth. Rollins to point it out to me. We just. happen to be. two like-minded, like interested people. walking into the main event of. Wrestlemania and understanding that we. both suffered the same fate at the. tribal chief Roman Reigns. That Roman. Reigns uses everyone in their sight in. his sight, squeezes the juice out of the. fruit till until it's not useful. anymore, and then discards them like he.

did to me. And that CM Punk. See, CM Punk does as much good to my. reputation as Shannon Sharp does to. ESPN. Oh, no. Jeez. Oh, boy. All right. See, I'm All right. We don't need that. We don't need that. Lock going on. I'm. Don't Oo be I'm not the one getting. sued. Whoa. Whoa. Okay. All right. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. We move along.

We move along. We get it. We get it. wise man. You get what you're saying? I. am. Okay. We get it. Okay. So, how long. has this whole thing been in play? You. and Seth together. You're looking for a conspiracy theory. I'm just asking a simple question. When. did you guys decide to join forces? Yeah. When did you guys start smooching? When I handed him the chair. Oh, no words that need to be said. We're. all speaking the same language. We're on. the same wavelength right now. Yeah,

that's it. Ty has a question for you, Wise Man. Yeah, Wise Man. I'm just. curious. I mean, I'm not used to seeing. you like this. It's actually kind of. messing me up a little bit, but I mean, how how do we get the marionette strings. back? How how do you I mean, what what's. the plan of attack here? I I just I I. can't I'm looking at you and it just it. hurts my heart because I I don't want to. see you like this. Well, the plan of. attack is what happened at Wrestlemania. I made sure of one thing. I lived up to. every promise. I never betrayed my.

tribal chief. I took CM Punk to the ring and I was in. his corner for the main event. But here's what times he did one of. these. Remember ring the bell. Boom. You know, it's funny. I I find it very. interesting how at Mania they say the.

winner of the match is Seth Rollins and. and he was by the way. Yes. I find it even more satisfying in my. dreams that there's someone who is now. inside the head of Roman Reigns and. inside the head of CM Punk and all they. hear is not the winner is Seth Rollins. They hear the. losers of the match, Roman Reigns and CM.

Punk. And I'll even do it in that order. and give Roman Reigns top billing. because I know that pisses off CM Punk. even more. All right. So, what should we. expect out of you and Seth? What do you. think? Is this going to be something. like we've seen with you in the past. with guys, or is this just a happen one. night? We all have the same views, same. visions, same dreams. You tune in. tonight to Monday Night Raw and I will.

lay this out for you in such simplistic. terms that even Roman Reigns and CM Punk. will understand it. Wow. Okay. All. right. Connor has a question for you, Mr. Haymon. Yeah. Wise man, you're. saying a lot here. Um, are are you. worried about the possible. repercussions? You know, cuz Seth, he is. a father and now that the man is back, he his duties might, you know, take him. elsewhere at times and you could be left. alone here. And so, you're calling out. Roman Reigns, you're calling out CM. Punk. They live and breathe this [ __ ].

Are you worried that you might have to. watch your back now, especially with. some of the physical violence you've. kind of taken over the last year? Are. you offering to be my backup? I I think. you're going to need more than me, brother. I I would I would love to be. your backup. I I would concur with that. assessment. Exactly. Exactly. You're. going to need some more beef. And so I shall go shopping. Oh, yes. Huh. Whoa. Interesting. Well, well, well, well, well, well. Anybody in mind?

Yes. And who would that be? He's a lot of beef. He's a lot of beef. He's a lot of beef. There's a certain. Viper out there. You can't give us any. hint. I Wise man ain't believing. I know. that. That's a little Michael Cole. You got. any more brain busters for Paul Heyman, Paul? I was hoping for trying to do my. job as a journalist trying to get some. answers. Tone has a question for you,

wise man. Yeah, sir. Hmon. Um, I know. and you know, and this jerk off over. here doesn't know. As we found out, you. did this out of the the just, you know, your heart. Your heart was in the right. place in all this. You did nothing wrong. to Roman Reigns. You did nothing wrong. to CM Punk. I know that. You know that. They should know that. Um and like you. said tonight, they will find that out. Why do you think, you know, everyone. sucks? That guy [ __ ] sucks. Um why do you.

think you're so misunderstood, Mr. Who's. the smart ass? [Music]. You the one that's going to get. deported. Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, Eagle. Mats are hot. I I I may suck, but it's. your mother that taught me how. [Applause]. [ __ ] of an audience today. I cannot wait till you're back in. Indianapolis. Amen. Wise man. Amen.

You should have heard him laugh. You. should have heard him last night at the. roast. I didn't know what I was signing. up for at that roast. Okay. And. apparently neither did Fluffy. [Applause]. God, you'd think of all the You think. The Miz would get pissed at me? No. Miz. laughing his ass off. You think Braun. Strowman literally Braun Strowman goes. up there crying that he's not on. WrestleMania and I tell him straight to. his face, he's not on Wrestlemania. because he sucks. And did he get mad at.

me? Nope. He's rowing with the punches. You'd think Tony Hinchcliffe would would. get mad at me cuz I totally upstaged him. on his own show and proved that it. should be the Paul Heymon roast of. Wrestlemania, not the Tony Hinchliff. roast of Wrestlemania. Think he'd get. mad at me? No. Who gets mad at me? A. professional. roaster of a fre a freaking a guy that. makes his living telling jokes on. panels. A guy that makes a living doing. roasts is the one guy that gets mad at. me and wants to fight me on stage. You.

were sitting directly next to me. I I. mean, it was it was quite a scene. You. And not only is he the one guy that. wanted to fight me on the stage, he's. the one guy whose ass I guarantee you I. could kick. Oh, hell yeah. I didn't know you were. sizing up a potential fight out there. Well, when Fluffy walks in a room, how. do you do anything but size his fat ass. up? All right, let's get back to Thank you for handling.

that situation for Tone earlier. Uh, yeah, buddy. We hope you stay. By the. way, Tone has the rest of his question. for you. No, I just wonder why do you. think you're so misunderstood? Because I. I'm sitting down here. I understand. everything you're saying. I know you. didn't do anything wrong. Why these. marks think you you did so so many. things wrong? You've been in the business since you're. 14. You should know. Why do you think. these people are so against what you. did? They do. You see, it goes back, it. goes back to who created the island of. relevancy. I really don't give a damn. about their irrelevant.

opinions. Do you care about the opinions. of people who are irrelevant? You don't. care about the opinions of most people. who are very relevant in your life. You. You don't care about the opinions of the. people who pay you. They sit there and. they go, "Hey, Mr. McAfee, don't talk. about Shannon Sharp on the air today.". And you go, "I talk about anything I. want. I'm Pat McAfee. Watch me swing my. slong all over the place. They go. McAfee. Don't talk about your podcast on. the air. What do you do? I'm King. Schlong. Watch me, Pat McAfee. Right.

This is on you. This is about you. Not. me. I mean, accurate stuff. Accurate. stuff, buddy. I mean, I mean, come on. Hey, but hey. Hey. Last night when the. roast was over and you and I were out. back and you're. going wise. men, by the way, it's puff puff pass. Not puff puff puff puff puff puff puff. chase down the gummy. Puff puff puff. puff pass. Right. And you go, wise.

man, you know Stephen A. Smith really. sucks. Right. Right. And and I go, I. love Stephen A. The man calls me the. goat. The man Stephen A. Smith is on the. air saying, "If there's one person in. the universe that I, Stephen A. Smith, at $70 billion a year want to be, it's. the wise man, Paul Heymon, and you sit. there and you go, these ESPN bastards. give me the same money as him or they. can." No, that's not true. None of. that's true. With that being said, there.

was a lot of weed being smoked last. night. Love that. And I had a great. time. I had a great time with that bit. Stephen A, I'm a big fan. You know that. Go get all the money you can get. All. the money you can get. But you I think. you were more prepared for that roast. than anybody else. And uh Miz goes up. Tony goes up first. Does his thing good. By the way, I I a good reaction. Went. well, sits down. Miz goes second. Miz. has been preparing. Oh yeah. For a long.

time. I don't know. Miz had a hundred. jokes. He started doing standup, right? Yeah. He literally was trying his best. Started rolling through it. Did not go. great. It did go good. I'm sorry, miss. There was a couple moments where, you. know, I go up immediately after, did not. know what I signed up for. I'm just. going to go sit down there. Fluffy goes. uh Braun Strowman comes out, takes his. shirt off, goes bananas. I mean, the. whole thing. Jeff Dye comes out. Jeff. Dy, I believe, does this on a regular. basis. Then Paul Heyman comes out and. there's just a different, you know, the.

cadence of how everything was going was. one way. I'm kind of popping through the. clouds as this is going like, "Okay, funny. Funny. All right, I'm dead tired. This is good. This is good." You came. out there and I mean, you took out just. a full on that Rollins flamethrower. Yeah, they was. It was a Rollins. flamethrower through the whole thing. You need to do that more often. I think. personally, uh, I think they should be. hiring you to do that. I think you and. Tony should potentially team up out. there. You don't do a lot outside the. wrestling world. This has just been your.

life strictly full-time. All the shows. you're not on air. I don't want to give. away too much here. You're there. Okay. This has been your entire being. Why has. there never been a trip outside of the. business? Will there ever be a trip. outside the business? And uh is this for. I mean this is what forever obviously. this is the pace you're going to be able. to keep going. You think this industry. keeps me very vibrant and I love every. moment of it and I cherish every moment. of it. This industry pays me very well.

So doing projects on the outside, most. of these projects can't afford me. Um, am I interested in some things? There are things that I'm interested in. doing. Yes. Like last night was. something you thought you'd be great at. and said, "You know what? I'm gonna give. this a go." Because you did. Yeah. They. threw it in my way and I was like, "Okay." I didn't, you know, I asked a. couple times, hey, who's on the panel, you know, I I I it was I was not going. to skewer the WWE guys. I mean, I kind.

of did and The Miz and his wife and, you. know, but but that was that was a lot of. that that was with a wink and a smile. But I I wanted you know what it's like. It's like and I I'll say this about you. here. You were an outsider that came. into our world and you could do it as. good if not better than the guys on top. from day one. You came in, we knew it. Logan Paul. Logan Paul came into WWE. He's an outsider. Now, usually back in. the days, Michael Cole can tell you. about this. Back in the days when an. outsider, even even a a top football.

player would come in and go, "Hey, I. want to be a wrestler." First thing they. do is they take him down to the Met, they break they they break his leg, they. snap his ankle, they tear the the tendon. off the bone. The first thing we do is. hurt you in this business. The very. first thing that was always done. And. then it's if you really want this, you. come back, then we'll teach it to you. So, it was a very tough business for. outsiders to break into and it's very. intimidating to break into this because. as you can testify just learning the. rhythm of hitting the ropes or taking a.

turnbuckle that's not easy and outsiders. will look at it and go oh just run. towards the rope really take an outsider. put them in a ring say hit the ropes or. take a turnbuckle and they will realize. very fast how complicated this industry. truly is to do to present and to. perform. You came in, you showed even. top guys you could do it. And there was. a lot of resentment against you at first. for that because you could do it better. than the very top guys instantly instead.

of guys who trained for 5 years. So. could Logan Paul. So they came to me and. they said, "Would you do the roster to. Wrestlemania?" And I said, "You know. what? I'm going to go on their stage. I'm going to steal their show. I'm going. to do their stick and I'm going to do it. a lot better than they can ever do. Now, if they asked me to enter a. juggling contest with Pen and Teller or. something, I wouldn't do it cuz I can't. juggle better than Pen and Teller. If. they ask me to do a tap dance con. contest, I wish I could tap dance, but I.

can't. So, I wouldn't do it. But on this. with a microphone in my hand against. anybody, let's [ __ ] go. I did not know you were going to be a. part of it. Okay. I did not have enough. information. I I realized that quickly. when I got there, okay, I I was like, I. am illprepared for whatever is about to. take place. 10:00 local, too. Very, very.

late night. When I heard you were there, you should have seen the excitement. It. was like I was a 12-year-old. I was in. bed basically. And then all of a sudden, I hear Paul Heymon's going to be here. I'm like, [ __ ] yes. had to make the. rounds. Everybody had like a crew with. them. Did you see everybody's crew? Yes. Everybody had a massive crew with them. So, it was like nice to like, hey, good. to see you. Good to see you. Good to see. you. Is there catering here? I am. starving. No, there's a couple uh. there's drinks over here. Well, there's. a difference between hunger and. munchies. Yeah, I'm kind of floating.

between both of them on a 24-hour period. of that whole thing. But as soon as I. heard you were there, I was jacked. And. uh I would argue you microphone any. setting winner forever. I hope that does. extend to some other stuff. Ty has. another question for you, Wise Man. I. do, wise man. Uh, just curious. Last we. were talking about the being in the. stadium and all that kind of stuff. Does. it ever surprise you? I mean, obviously. a lifer like how this [ __ ] just gets. bigger and like it was almost hard to. kind of pay attention to everything.

going on cuz you just get so intoxicated. being inside the stadium. What you think. coming down the ramp and everything? I. mean, is it kind of just another another. day? Uh, or do you actually get to kind. of take everything and be like, "Holy. [ __ ] this is I mean, this is [ __ ]. incredible." Uh, all the above except. for the first part, which is about being. surprised about it. Uh, it's never just. another day. It it's it it's today is is. the day. Today is the day to steal the. show. Today is the day to have the best. performance of our career. Tomorrow, we.

have to be better than today. The day. after tomorrow, we have to be better. than tomorrow will be. If if if I can. look back on our body of work nine weeks. ago, 10 weeks ago, and I like what I'm. watching, I haven't grown as a. performer. I haven't grown as a. presenter. I haven't grown as a talent. I haven't grown as someone that takes a. look at the industry and tries to move. it forward. And and if you're not. growing, then you're dying and you fall. into the past and someone passes right. by you. So, I take a very progressive.

approach to it. I also cherish every. moment because every moment can be your. last. The first Wrestlemania that I was. in someone's corner, coincidentally, was. 2013 at Metife Stadium, right over the. bridge from New York from my house. And. um and and the first person I went out. to the ring with that night was CM Punk. against the Undertaker. Oh yeah. Yeah. First person. I also managed Brock. Lesnar against Triple H. But I the first. time I was in someone's corner at.

WrestleMania was with CM Punk. And I. told my kids that night who came to the. show, if CM Punk and Brock come out to. the ring alone, I I didn't die in the. back. I didn't have a heart attack or. stroke or collapse. They benched me. And. that can happen where literally the the. former chairman of the board could be. sitting there eating a protein bar. watching the monitor and the music is. about to hit and he goes, "Ball a minute. Have a seat with me. Watch this on the monitor together with.

me and watch it play out and that's it. It's over. You're benched. You've been. replaced. Happened Happened to him many. times. Hey, the host of Money Night R. No, you're not. Hey, host Smackdown. No, you're not. Hey, the host of Money Night. R. No, you're not. Hey, host Smack. No, you're not. How many times they pull the. rug out from underneath you? So, it. happens. So every time I get to do my. thing, I cherish every moment of it of. every moment of it like it's my last and.

I look at every performance that I give. as merely an audition to be invited back. to the next show. With that being said, am I surprised it's a success? No. You. know why? Cuz we're. good. Cuz what we do is quality. because. we have brought this business forward. into an atmosphere that is sophisticated. and that the audience can get can get. emotionally invested into and now you. can be proud. It's no longer just a. boutique industry like yo you wrestling.

fan. Yeah, WWE fan. Yeah, of course, man. Who else would I be a fan? Yeah. Well, ECW, yeah, I get that, too. Um, but you know what I'm saying now? It's. like, yo, I'm a WWE fan. Check me. Yo, you too, right? Yo, what's up, brother? And and it's just this thing when Elon. Musk colonizes. Mars, the very first form of. entertainment that Elon Musk will. present will be Wrestlemania from the. planet of Mars. [Applause]. and I will accompany someone to the ring.

for the main event and I hope we're. calling it. Hey Paul, I I do want to say. this u because I've mentioned it a. couple of times over say the last 5. years. People don't know how involved. you've been in the behind the scenes of. this wonderful story that started with. the Bloodline and now it's turned into. where we are today. I have said that you. deserve an Emmy award for what you have. done and our business will never. probably get that recognition. Maybe it. will since we're changing, but seeing.

you write this work with the talent. involved and how you've extended the. story for as long as you have is. absolutely incredible. At the top of the. game, main event every single time. I concur with your assessment. I figured. you would. I thank you for your kind. words and I concur with your assessment. Um, I I uh I challenge the Emmy Awards.

to finally open their eyes and and. understand exactly what's going on in. front of them. I mean, you know, it it's. not like we're bicycling tapes anymore. in syndication. We're on Netflix. We're. we're being covered by ESPN. Why? We are. consistently the number one videos on. YouTube. We are consistently the number. one guest on any podcast that has us on. Why? So with that kind of global. recognition and acceptance of.

the beautiful performance art known as. professional wrestling, one would think. that the Emmy award people would open. their eyes to what's truly going on in. entertainment. You would think. Right. And sooner than later, the public will. speak up to such a degree that the Emmys. will have no choice but to recognize us. for our contributions to people's. entertainment. I hope so. I hope so. Cuz.

you've uh you directly and Michael Cole. Now, at this point, 28 Wrestlemanias. have contributed to the entertainment. portion of my life uh at a rapid clip. and at a higher rate than any other. broadcast company, production company, movie company, show company. Oh, and oh, yeah, it's 52 weeks a year, every year. forever. By the way, by the way, we just. had a 12-hour off season. Yep, that was. it. We're starting the new season. tonight. Raw After Mania. Paul Heyaymon.

will explain why he took his right. foreharm to two different sets of sacks. on Saturday night. Connor has a question. for you. Paul. Yeah, Wiseman. Do you. think to everything you just said, the. new WWE Unreal show with the behind the. scenes of the writing and the creative. and how much goes into it will help that. case? Because it feels like, you know, maybe there isn't as much public. knowledge about the creative and how it. is 365. But documentaries sometimes, you. know, we've seen it with F1, they kind.

of bring a new light, a new angle to. something and it gives it a lot more. pub. Do you think that's going to happen. with the creative after the WWE Unreal. series comes out? Yes. Good answer. You hate it. Do you hate it. or no? No. I I accept it. I watched the Unreal. trailer and I do not believe I am. considered an old school guy by any. parts. do not want to act like that is. the case. But as a person who operates.

with our show as a work, yeah, we think. everything is, you know, what it is. real, brother. We think, you know, this. isn't a work, it is a shoot, but we. think and treat it as a work all the. time. And I think there is now a chance. that uh, you know, I don't I don't know. how it feel. Obviously, I can't wait to. watch it. NFL film's involved. Omaha's. involved. WWE'se's involved. Netflix is. involved. It's going to be great. I. don't know how much I love. You know, I.

I I don't I I I don't I don't have to. love it. It's It's not for me to love. I. I'm I'm a very very old school guy. The. oldest of I mean, you know, I I. I go back to a theory of uh heels settle. in the heat, baby blows the comeback, you know? I mean, it's it's that simple. of an equation that that that the good. guy is the good guy because heroism will. prevail and the bad guy is the bad guy. because on any given day he is unable to.

beat the good guy and therefore must. cheat to do so. I mean the the the these. are the fundamentals and and then the. rudimentary thoughts of of of my mindset. towards the industry. But I'm also very. accepting of where the industry has gone. and will go and the culture and the and. society's culture that pushes it. forward. Do I like walking through the. curtain and there's a camera right in my. face documenting how I come out of the.

character that you see on TV? No, I. don't like it. Am I Am I going to fight. against it? No, I'm not going to fight. against it because those cameras are. going to be there whether I like it or. not. So, I'm accepting of the fact that. this is the change in the industry and I. better figure out how now to capitalize. on that, how to expand from it and how. to be a part of it or it's going to. leave me behind. That's about being.

relevant. So, if you're not if they do. WWE Unreal and every time that they say, "We're going to mic you up for this. meeting." And I go, "Oh, no, no, no. You're not put a microphone on me, not. put a camera on me when I'm talking. creative behind the scenes." Well, then. I won't be on WWE Unreal and it's going. to move on without me. So, it's there. That train is leaving the station. You. can go with the train into the future of. this industry or you can stay behind. like these old-times and then go, you. know, back in my day. Back back in my. day, this is not how we did it. It ain't.

your day anymore. And it ain't your day. because you refuse to go into the future. with the industry that is moving at a. rapid pace that way. It it'd be it'd be. like someone going to Steve Jobs and. saying, "Hey, uh, we're going to we're. going to we're going to whip Kodak's ass. by building a better camera inside of a. phone. All the music inside of the. phone. Everybody's life is going to be. right there inside a phone." He goes, "Oh, no, no, no, no music. You need a. record player camera. You got to go to. Photo Man to have it developed.".

baloney. The future was there. He went. with it. Everybody else had to catch up. So, anytime you see the future playing. out in front of you, it's not for you to. like. It's not even for you to have. respect for it. It's for you to have an. understanding of it and then master that. understanding or the world moves on. without you. Got it. And I think it'll. bring more fans, too, and respect to the. entire business. That's massive respect. for the way you view. What What would. your life have been if if is is is if if. if if your dad, who I know is a very a. big- time forward thinker. Big time for. No, Tim McAfee, you don't think your.

father's a forward thinker? I see how. much support he has given you in all. your endeavors. If your dad said to you, Pat, what are you doing? You podcast? What? What? What? What's a podcast? You. can't do a podcast, Pat. No, Pat. Traditional media. You need to go on CBS. or NBC or ABC. Tim Sounds like Tim. Yeah. Tim McVey was putting together a. gazebo. Okay, then if you then if you're. going to rebel against your stupid. father, then tell then tell me. Tim is uh not the biggest brainiac when.

it comes to tech, but I say, "Dad, I'm. doing a podcast." He goes, "Uh, I don't. know what the [ __ ] that is, but good. luck out. there." That is. dead. That's what Tim's doing. So, if. you didn't understand what the podcast. world was, where would your career be. today? Yeah. If you just went with. traditional media, the thrill of victory. and the agony of defeat, right? It's. over. Come on. I got it. I got it. We. got to dodge dip dive and dodge our way. into the future and into technology. And.

I think from what I've seen once again, NFL films great at what they do. WWE. great at what they do. Netflix great at. what they do. Paul Heymon better than. all of them at what he does. Amen. So, if everybody's coming together, I assume. it's going to be magical and hopefully. the respect will grow for the amount of. work that is done behind the scenes by. the Paul Heymons and the others. Ty has. another question for you. Yeah, I mean, it's it's cool, but do you think is is. there any part of it I mean, I know. you're just saying, but like as a fan. like isn't doesn't part like shouldn't. some stuff be left up to your own.

imagination so you can But I'm not. making that decision. I'm not the one. calling that shot. Yeah. So, and I'm not. going to change their opinion of it. unless they ask me in in such a manner. that my my my contributions to the. conversation can weigh in on the. decision. They didn't ask me. So, it's. happening anyway. So, since it's. happening anyway, I'm either a part of. it or I'm not. So, you jump on the train. or you let the train leave the station. without you. Do you think the the. discussion between like Triple H came on. the show on on Friday and basically you.

know gave an analogy about how invested. everyone is but how they feel like they. have the right to kind of book anything. Do you think that will kind of that's. just going to make that exponentially. bigger where because people are seeing. the behind the scenes stuff they're. going to feel like they should have a. say in how these shows are put together. and it it's kind of just going to. continue to I don't want to say create. that divide but obviously that shit's. very loud. I think the public has I. think the public has always been able to. dictate what we do. If you like the. presentation, you will buy a ticket to. support it and come and see it. And if.

you don't like what we're doing, you'll. stop coming and we'll have to sit there. and say, "Hey, the gates are down. The. t-shirts aren't selling. Nobody's. watching the TV show. No one's tuning. into the podcast. No one's buying this. No one's on our website. We got to. change course. It's the public is the is. the ultimate judge. The public has the. ultimate sway. The public chooses what. they like, in which case they buy. The. public doesn't. We're salesmen. We We're. commerce facilitators here. So, either.

we sell successfully and we know we're. doing it right or we don't sell. successfully and we know we got to. change it up. Who who are some of the. young people in the industry in the WWE, whether it's NXT, LFG, Evolve, or even. on the Raw or Smackdown rosters, speed, I guess, in that. Who are some of the. young studs that you kind of have seen. since the beginning and go like, okay, future of the industry could be in a. good spot here with this particular. person? Seth Rollins.

Seth Rollins. Amen. Seth Rollins. [Music]. There's others. Maybe Seth Rollins. Seth Rollins. Okay. Wow. Seth Rollins. Future of the industry. Going to carry the industry into higher.

heights than it has ever been. Seth. Rollins is exactly where Roman Reigns. was in August 2020. Roman Reigns was a. multi-time Wrestlemania main event. Mo. Roman Reigns was a multi-time WWE. heavyweight champion. Roman Reigns was a. multi-time Universal Heavyweight. Champion. Roman Reigns had been on top. for eight years in WWE. The big dog was. as big a name in WWE as he possibly. could be. And then he sat on the couch.

next to Paul Heymon and the tribal chief. was born. And tell me anybody who truly. remembers the big dog today. OTC OTC OTC OTC. You're welcome. And. that's exactly where Seth Rollins is. today. Everything that you've seen Seth. Rollins accomplish has led him up to. this point in his career. And the same. transformation of the big dog into the.

global recordbreaking box office. attraction known as the tribal chief. Roman Reigns is the same step up that. Seth Rollins takes starting tonight. Can't wait to watch. Can't wait to. listen. Ladies and gentlemen, tonight on. Netflix, 8:00 p.m. Eastern, Monday Night. Raw, will be blessed by the. presence of the wise man, Paul Haymon.

Love you, wise man. Love you, wise man. Here you go, wise. [Music]. [Applause]. man. Cole, you [ __ ] you dork. What about the people? What about the. [Music]. people wise man doing? Dork. Wise man. wouldn't even stop. Thank you, wise man. Why did you call him a dork? I'm calling. you. Thank you, wise man. Thank you,

Paul. Thanks, Paul. Thank you, Paul. Thanks. Thanks, Paul. As we restack the desk here for the. final few moments of this glorious Mania. overreaction Monday from the WWE world. We should have AJ come out with uh this. bad boy. Come here. Hawker Hawker. AJ Hawk. AJ Hawk. AJ. Hawk. AJ Hawk. AJ Hawk.

John Morant. Oh, great catch there. Unbelievable. Paul Heymon, are you. kidding me? I was stand here with St. Sam Roberts. Just in awe of that. performance. Lord, our Lord Lord of the Marts will. join us in a third hour. Okay. Here from. WWE World, but as we wrap up here on. ESPN, we'll be back live from. Indianapolis, Indiana tomorrow in the. Thunderdome. Feels like it's been a. miles uh thousand miles hour. Draft.

night is Thursday night in Green Bay. AJ, we'll be headed back there. made the. announcement in the first hour. Mike. McCarthy, former Super Bowl winning head. coach of the Green Bay Packers, will be. joining us back in Green Bay on Thursday. night. He'll be a great addition to the. program, I do assume. Big Mike is going. to be amazing. I think he's very excited. for it. Maybe we even I'm sure our set. our set will be right off of Mike. McCarthy Way. There's a street named. after him. He'll be very humble about. that, but we should make sure we bring. it up. Um, we were talking to him. earlier today and he said, "What are you.

doing for dinner?" And then uh we asked. him if we could stay at his house. because I've lived down there a long. time. Been in Dallas, you know, but we. can see what type of condition it's in. Feels like he's ready to go. I can't. wait to get to Green Bay. It It's going. to be We were in Detroit, obviously. We. are in Nashville, obviously. Peter. Shreger will be joining us. Uh Mad Mel. Kyper will be there. Green Bay, this is. the perfect city seemingly for a draft, right, AJ? Yeah, Green Bay doesn't get. to host a whole lot of things because of. the weather. usually want warm weather.

places, but uh I think they're going to. be juiced. Everybody there I know I've. been talking to that live there have. been very excited. Uh Dutch, uh. quarterbacks is obviously the massive. question mark, but I feel like we're. going to get more athletes. I think. we're going to get some offensive. linemen picked early. I really think. it's a mixed bag going into Thursday. night. Absolutely. I'm interested to see. where these running backs go, too. Uh. start with Ashton Genty. He may be right. out here in Vegas, may get drafted by. the Raiders. That's a big story line. obviously Amarian Hampton and just the. depth of that overall class. Wide. receivers, too. I feel like in years. past, we've known the top two or three.

wide receivers uh and how they're going. to come off the board. We don't really. know that this year. Very deep. Uh Dline. group as well. I'm excited. Draft is. always great. Uh one of the greatest. kind of reality shows in shoot sports. Ty Madmell, I know, has been doing his. research. Is he prepared for Thursday. night from what you've heard? Uh I. believe so. I think probably, you know, still got a couple booklets that he. needs to, you know, kind of comb through. a little bit. Um, really looking forward. to getting back to Indianapolis to kind. of do some of that prep. Um, but but.

yeah, you know, I mean, Mad Bell will be. ready to go. Didn't we try to get actual. Mel Kyper on the show a couple times. this draft cycle? Well, you know, I'm. meeting with JMs, you know, every waking. second of the day. So, unfortunately, it's pretty tough for him to, you know, get out there. We have not been able to. book Mel Kyper on our show. Ah, years. straight now. Yeah. But I'm sure he's. going to love you on Thursday night. Can't wait for that. Con man, I know. you've been focused on the New England. Patriots picking at four. What else have. you been paying attention to for draft. night? Yeah, just just kind of what our. outfits are going to be. You know, that. that's something I always try and think. about before leading up to the draft,

especially after last year. First one. outside in the cold in Detroit. I think. we're going to have to uh kind of brave. that same cold in Green Bay. But no, it. does feel like there's going to be some. madness. I I've the smoke screen. season's alive. I I heard Sher on Friday. say like, "Hey, you still can't rule out. Shadura the Giants at three." And then, you know, we're talking Mel Kyper. Mel. Kyper has Shador as his number one rated. quarterback above Cam Ward in his, you. know, entire draft breakdown. Mel Kyper. has Shador at the number one.

Not the number one pick cuz he knows the. Titans are taking Cam Ward, but in his. big board, he has Shador as his number. one QB. So, so he's saying the Titans. are wrong. Yes, exactly. Mel Kyper. saying that here a week? Yes. Mel Kyper. is steadfast on Shadore being the guy. I. feel I feel as though basically every. mock draft we've had leading up to this. point is completely wrong. I I think a. lot of those two three four combos are. going to, you know, come out of nowhere. I think that's why the Abdul Carter add. four to Philly is coming up now because.

teams are finding out like, oh, two and. three are not going to go how you think. it's going to go. And then obviously. four is completely dependent on how. those two and three picks go. So, I. think it's going to be an incredible. draft and I think there's some teams. that are in that top five that might. make a move that causes them to become. one of those teams that wins, you know, 10, 11, 12, 13 games next year. And I. think that might be the New England. Yeah, of course. That's what you've been. paying attention to. Tone, quickly, is. the hard outcomes upon us. Uh, we have. highlights for everybody on this.

particular draft night. Feels like we. don't know a damn thing about who's. going where. No, we got highlights for. the top 50s just in case anything. happens cuz you never know. There's. sometimes people that sneak in at the at. the end of the first, especially because. this draft is, you know, they're. labeling it as starters, not stars. So, there's there's 30 different guys um. that, you know, go from 10 to 40 that. could go into the first round. So, that's kind of what's going on there and. we'll find out. Uh Michael Cole, Raw. After Mania tonight, 8:00 Eastern on. Netflix. People should tune in. Why? Uh. because it's the best Monday Night Raw.

of the year, and there are so many. surprises planned. It is going to be. absolutely incredible. You don't want to. miss it. And I do want to say one thing. about the draft. It is our annual right. as Jets fans to wait and see how we're. going to screw it up again. You're not the only team that's thinking. like that. I think a lot of people are. Tonight 8:00 Eastern on Netflix. We're. all After Mania will be insane. Michael. Cole just said there's a ton of. surprises planned. Go ahead and give it. away Cole just like you did on Friday.

We'll be live back in Indianapolis. tomorrow. Then we'll be in Green Bay on. Thursday. We can't thank you enough for. allowing us to do this for a living. From WWE World in the WWE Universe, ESPN. folks watching around the globe, we. appreciate you. We can see you. digitally. Goodbye. Okay, now we're digital. Yep. Now, AJ, I don't want you to hand that. microphone off to somebody, but there's. a guy in the back who is the lord of the.

marks. Y that we need to come up here. and give us his analysis of this. Wrestlemania weekend. We'll call it 60. seconds with the Lord, but we know it'll. probably go 5 to 10. Ladies and. gentlemen, the host of Raw Recap and. Wrestlemania Recap alongside Megan Ram. Yeah, Morant Jaw. She's the greatest Megan. Morance. great lady and also a guy who's.

on Sirius XM, friend of the program, Lord of the Mocks. That's right. My le. Sam Roberts, ladies and gentlemen. Baby, Sam. Hello, Sam. My. le. My lord. Great to see you, Sam. Hell. yes, my lord. Thank you, my lord. It's. his crown. He leaves his crown at home. Big pop.

I don't know if you're these people. Big. pop. Invincible. Ali. Hell yeah. That's. how I'm invisible. Oh yeah. Yes. Way to draw drive the fans away, Sam. They are kind of falling out. Yeah. Hold. on. They guys, wait. Wait. What the. hell? Wait. Hey, you guys are wrong. Hang out. Hang out. See you guys over. there. Raw. Hang out. The show's not. done. All right. The boys and I have a. rapid fire questions for you. We saved. this for last. That's why everybody is. here. Connor would like to first give. you a thank you for being the lowest.

Yeah. Thank you so much for the. education your show has given me. I feel. like I walked into Mania this weekend. and I kind of knew everything that was. going to happen. Um granted some things. I didn't know. You gave all the finishes. away. No, you No, but I knew all the. move sets. I knew all the combos. I knew. exactly what the wise man was going to. do on Saturday night. I mean, Debo. looked at me at one point talking about, you know, Punk and Rollins as they were. going off and I said, "Just just wait on. it because our tribal chief is coming. around a corner somewhere." And what. happened, Da? You were spot on. Yeah, he.

came around the corner. Yep. And the. only reason I was spot him was cuz my. leash Sam Roberts. So, Sam, I really. just want to know, you know, best match, worst match, you know, in in your mind. Best. match was the fatal four-way for the. Intercontinental Championship. Dominic. Mysterio, congrats, Dom, winning the. Intercontinental Championship. He did. not take kindly to a certain commentary. duo laughing at him trying to take his. mask off. Spanish pretty funny, actually. He didn't appreciate that.

What was the mask? Somebody told me that. that was a sacred mask or something. He. told us on uh Wrestlemania recap that it. was uh it had a lot of cultural. significance, but then he realized how. much bigger he was than the entire. culture and that's why he was trying to. tear it off of his face. So that's what. you guys you missed that. You shouldn't. be missing something. Yeah. Okay. You. know, you shouldn't be See, there it is. Oh, no. He's like, "No, I don't want it. after all." There it is. See, that's You. missed that when he was coming out. That.

fool couldn't get his the hood off. I. don't think. So that's the best thing. and the worst is John Cena winning cuz. he's going to ruin wrestling. Going to. John Cena with the help of Travis Scott. ruining wrestling last night. What? Last. night it's already ruined the worst. match of Wrestlemania. He took it from us. Wow. Cody was there. for us like he has been this entire. time. And John Cena ruins Wrestlemania. He said tonight he's going to Tonight's.

the night he ruins wrestling. You. haven't seen nothing yet. He said you. guys going to have to reset the whole. damn thing. You're going to have to take. all your little mark gifts that you got. around the house. Throw them out cuz the. shit's restarting. That's what Cena. said. He said, "I know the show will go. on, but it ain't going to be nothing. like what it was. I'm taking the. tradition of this place and I'm. leaving." That's what he said. He said. he's going to explain it tonight. That's. what he said. He's going to take the. title. Goodbye. See you later. When he. retires and wrestling will never be the. same again. We got to start from the. beginning. When you come back, there's a. tried andrue tradition of you, you put.

the younger people ahead of you so that. the business continues for generations. and generations. The idea Tiffany. Stratton goes over boom. The idea of. coming back, announcing you're going to. retire and then saying, "No, no, no. I'm. going to be selfish. I'm going to take. it all for me on the way out." Literally. the worst thing you can do in wrestling. You would have called himself. Did you. tell John that? I didn't get to see him. I didn't get to know. Peabot has a. question for you. Law, you talked about. the matches. Uh, one of my favorite. things about Wrestlemania are the.

entrances. Uh, I want to know your. favorite. What do you think the best. one? Stone Cold was obviously awesome. It was incredible. Uh, Stone Cold missed. the ramp. Stone Cold. I blame the ramp. I blamed Gim, but he was he was moving. on that bad boy. Uh, CM Punk, Seth. Rollins had an incredible entrance as. well. What was your favorite the. weekend? My favorite entrance was. definitely CM Punk's entrance in that. triple threat. Not just because we had. Living Color there, but because that. amazing video package that put.

everything into perspective that. juxtaposed his first WWE promo with his. first Wrestlemania main event that are. so many years apart. I think there was. such a story told just in the entrance. alone. Look in my eyes. That's what it sounded. like. What do you see? What do you see? What is it? Cult of personality. Oh, you nailed it. You should have. been out there. Awful. Okay. Awful. I.

thought it was very good. Disrespect. Ty. has a question for you. Thank you. Yeah. My lord. Uh, listen. You've been doing. this for a long time. I don't know how. many Wrestlemania you've been to. Quite. a few. Um, yeah. 41. 41. There you go. 41 total. I'm I'm honestly just looking. at you for my marching orders how I. should feel about this. When we're. talking Sin City Street Fight, is that a. top three match at WrestleMania all. time? Is that a top five? Wait a minute. All time. All time. I mean, it was. really good. That's very high rank. Is.

that really fair to That's what I'm. saying. Give me my marching orders, my. lord, please. Top 10, I guess. Top 10. Sure. I mean, it was a it was one of the. great matches this weekend is what you. would say. you go and and you'd say that. but a top three of all time. There's. been so many I know that's why it was so. matches. Yeah. No, I think Drew McIntyre. did amazing. Drew McIntyre clearly has. stated the fact that now it's time for. him to be in world title contention once. again. So yeah, I would say top several.

of the weekend. Top several of the. weekend work. You know that. Okay. for. you're saying that that's top several of. the weekend. It sounds like you think. great Wrestlemania weekend in the ring. Incredible Wrestlemania weekend in the. ring. If you look at everything under. the main event of night two of. Wrestlemania, incredible. The main event. of Wrestlemania night one. Incredible. So much so much incredible stuff. And I. felt like this year we got to the the. the tradition of Wrestlemania. really.

felt like the end of a chapter and. beginning of the next one where you're. showing up now and going, "What the hell. is going to happen next?" Well, after. Mania, it should be packed. AJ Hawk has. a question for you. Oh Lord, Sam, how. surprised were you to see Becky Lynch, the man come back and what do you think. her path looks like moving forward? I. was Here's what made me happy that the. man came back. Becky Lynch has been uh. she's been in many forms. She's big time. back. She's she's she's evolved as it. were. But there was Becky coming back as.

the man, looking like the man, feeling. like the man, sounding like the man. It. was it was it was that reminder of how. much she has done. It was a reminder of. the fact that Becky Lynch is, I would. say, the first woman to have been in an. era the top superstar in the entire. company. And that's who we saw. and her. coming out, it's the exact opposite of. John Cena. Her coming out and saying, "You know what? I'm going to use. everything that I've done to help put.

Lyra Valkyia on the map at the biggest. stage you can possibly do it on." That's. what you want out. Who attacked Bailey, though? I don't like that. Bailey was. supposed to be in there. I don't know. I. don't know what's going on sometimes. with the security around back there. I. don't know if it's a Vegas thing. It. might be Vegas. I like that Becky. obviously was there because her husband. had a big match and just so happened to. be able to fill in for Bailey whenever. she got attacked on Friday. But shout. out to the man coming back around to Las. Vegas. Tone has a question for you here, Sam. Yeah, my lord. Um just a WWE hat.

Love that. Yeah, that's that's your fan. I can tell. Yeah, thank you. I can tell. Uh, Randy Orton, the Viper, arguably one. of the most physically imposing WWE. superstars of all time. You think it was. disrespectful to throw Joe Hanley into. the ring with him? No, I think it's. disrespectful what you just did. Thank. you. I think you are disrespectful by. calling Joe Hendry Joe Hanley. You don't. think that was disrespectful for the. Viper to throw that [ __ ] guy in the. ring?

No, I think that I think first of all, I. love Randy coming out. He was wearing. the the the same colors that he wore. when he was just a young guy when he was. first debut. Yeah. Oh, you knew that. Yeah. You You guys are all finished. We kept him up after. I don't think I. ever said Joe Hanley on my show. But I. do think it was That's right. I do think. it was a huge moment for Joe Hendrick, getting that entrance at WrestleMania, hearing a stadium full of people react. to him, having us talk about him. He.

already did that at the Rumble, but yep, I believe Wrestlemania. Wrestlemania. And look, you get a match. with Randy Orton at Wrestlemania, whether you're Joe Henry or Joe Hanley, it's a huge deal. That said, for Randy. Orton, it's it's inevitable. There's. going to be some RKOs's. Yeah. Yeah. I. think Joe Hendry uh that's his name. Certainly knew what he was signing up. for, but he wasn't scared, which we. appreciate in front of 60,000 plus. Huge. weekend.

23,476 or whatever the number was. Michael Cole here has a last question. for you, Lord. Yeah, I do. Really? Uh I. saw a clip from the uh Wrestlemania. recap today. Carrie and Cross went off. Yes. I can't imagine what it's going to. be like tonight. What was that all. about? I don't know. Uh we had the room. on, you know, we were recording and we. were we were picking up people as we. went. We got uh Becky and Lyra like. right outside Gorilla. Dominic Mysterio. came in the room. We got his interview. We just had the room on. We thought we.

might get the winner of AJ and Logan. Paul and Ker and Cross just barged in. Clearly, there were no questions to be. asked because he just had this this. statement to be made. And I think he. voiced this frustration that I'm sure a. lot of people have, and Kerion's really. the only one to do it this publicly, that guys like Logan Paul, whether. they're athletically gifted or not, come. in, go straight to WWE, go straight to. huge matches and and have these. Wrestlemania moments where Carrie and. Cross was was was going for years all.

over the independence, for years trying. to make it to WWE and he finally makes. it in and he can't even get. Why does Logan Paul have to be blamed. for that? Logan Paul's an incredible. athlete. He's guy's unbelievable. He's. supposed to be there. What do you want. to gatekeep on greatness? Okay. Huh? Sam, is that what you want to do? No, I. don't want to gatekeep on on greatness. But I do want to look at people who have. given their life to this sport that we. love, this art form that we love, and.

go, "Yeah, you pay your dues, you do it. the right way, you end up on top." Look. at Michael Cole. Michael Cole had to pay. dues. I was at the Mattel booth over. there. They're making an action figure. of Michael Cole from the Attitude Era. Guess what? Guess what? He had to pay a. lot of dues in the Attitude. Era. And then he had to pay a lot of. dues in the Ruthless Aggression era. And. then he had to pay a lot of dues in the. era after the Ruthless Aggression era in. the PG era. Now finally, he's the GOAT. I'm still paying dues. I work three. straight days on television. Amen. Hey.

Sam, why don't you give a uh toast here. to Wrestlemania as we get the hell out. of here and we say thank you to the. people that joined us here at the. convention center and the wrestling. world. Raw after Mania tonight, Sam. Roberts. Oh, I can't wait. You got to. give a toast. You got to give a toast. Oh, a toast to the greatest spectacle in. all of sports and entertainment, Wrestlemania. And one time for the Raw. after Wrestlemania where it all changes.

again. Drinks up, boys. Cheers. Appreciate you, Sam. You're the man. Appreciate you. I don't toast. non-alcoholic beverages. You're so cool. You weren't giving one. All right. From all of us to all of you, to everybody in the back, great work. setting this entire thing. To the boys in the back punching. buttons, doing the audio, doing the. cameras, doing it all. We appreciate the. hell out of you. To the ESPN crew that. set all of this up with all the cameras.

barcoding the boys. Thank you. Brian on. the jib, thanks for making this happen. WWE people that rigged the uh LED board. and the speakers so people could hear. Also to all the superstars that stopped. by and to all the fans that blessed us. with their presence here. A very long. weekend of Wrestlemania. Tonight is the. night cap at Raw After Mania. 8:00 on. Netflix. It is going to be awesome. Be a. friend. Tell a friend something nice. It. might change their life. We're in this.

thing together. Team on me. Team on. three. 1 2 3. Goodbye. [Applause].