The Pat McAfee Show Live From The NFL Combine | Friday February 28th 2025

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hello beautiful people and welcome to. Lucas Oil Stadium here in beautiful. Indianapolis Indiana the forever home. and the combine this program starts. now. combine magical as is that particular. jib shot from Scott that was different. than any had done before the Louisiana. man can sense that there might be some. gay to nuggets on the way as this is our. last day here at the combine but it will. obviously continue through the weekend. and today it is the tight ends in the.

secondary working out on the field While. others are bench pressing and meeting. behind the scenes with teams and medical. and you name it it has been an absolute. blast to be down here all week long now. we've been hearing a lot of things as I. assume a lot of you have we'll certainly. chat about that we have Michael Lombardi. the general manager of UNCC that'll be. joining us at some point in the first. hour in the second hour we'll have. Brandon Bean joining us now there might. be some surprise guests and there might. be some stop buys and there might be. some magical things that happen.

during the show from what we are being. told now it's not just me obviously I'm. here with a great group of lads and once. again Tai Schmidt has missed MH the. program damn no text from him today we. hope he is okay if you could send your. love to Tai we would be wildly grateful. but the toic table is here it just looks. a little different at Boston Connor and. uh mad Mel Kyper mad Mel today tight. ends allegedly a deep class secondary. people going to run fast what are you. looking forward to today here in. beautiful Indianapolis Indiana yeah I.

think you know you mentioned how deep. this year's tight end class is Pat I. think you're exactly right obviously the. top two guys you know Tyler Warren. Coulson Loveland I don't think they're. going to do much today so we're going to. really test the depth today you know a. couple other guys couple prospects who. you know if you go by raw Athletic score. Ras which everyone's talking about the. Raz score uh we're going to see which of. these guys maybe makes a name for. themselves and really pushes themselves. up big boards as maybe the number three. number four number five tight end con. man I don't like hearing new names say.

they're not working out the combat yeah. I don't love that at all I mean shador. Sanders wasn't going to throw up a came. to meet and do medical he announced that. before the combine said Hey listen I got. a lot of years of tape that you can. watch I'll be throwing in my pro day. which is a normal thing this does happen. his workout partner cam Ward also has. come out and said he will not be. throwing here Tyler Warren not playing. lovland uh Loveland hurt I believe a. Royo tight end out of Miami also not. working out so you're seeing some people.

big names high-end guys not work out. pretty status quo don't need that to. become the norm with everybody though. con man yeah it's terrible I feel like. those guys at least they were you know. consistently great all year but it does. open the door you know will Howard let's. see what you got you can be the star. here and and you know we hung around and. watched the dline linebackers yesterday. I'm not sure if that's my mik uh. exhilarating very fun uh to sit around. and watch that for a little bit they. didn't actually have the times in the. stadium that was a huge Miss so we had. to watch the TV copy as well which was.

great because rich but the time is. always like projected time it's not the. actual time so I think they uh cuz in. the stadium all the teams are getting. their own time yeah yeah yeah which is. nice but for the people in here you know. it's tough to even know the relative hey. could be 4 seconds could be eight you. know who who really knows how to clock. those things but now you know it'll be. nice to see some of the other guys step. up a little bit and I know there's a a. tight end out of Bowling Green Fanning. is his name Fannon who's a absolute stud. shattered a bunch of Records this year. so maybe a little less known guys unlike.

the cam ws and shador and Tyler Warren. and lovelin maybe make a little name for. themselves here today which would be. nice yeah put on a little bit of a show. here in Indianapolis you can certainly. steal it and maybe bump up your draft. stock a little bit and that's what the. magical thing about Indianapolis is is. you got a lot of conversations happening. behind the scenes you got a lot of. workouts you got a lot of face to- face. time with these coaches and you know Jim. Harbaugh said the other day on our. program to start this entire week of us. down here at the combine he said oh. these guys say they like to compete well. here's an opportunity come compete some.

of these guys can really do it will. Howard okay mhm my source s are telling. me that last night 11:00 p.m. at. night some people from Indianapolis were. walking around. dtown and they look into a hotel parking. lot it's a little chilly last night here. in Indianapolis and there's one guy. taking dropbacks and throwing a football. over a parking thing to the other side. and there's somebody coaching or.

catching it they get a little bit closer. they said well that's a tall big son of. a [ __ ] throwing the ball there sure is. this somebody trying to just be like hey. I Uncle Rico this thing combine week all. the NFL people here I'm going to do this. got a little bit closer it was Will. Howard wow it was W Howard who I don't. know if he flew in or got here earlier. whatever the case was but he had a. throwing you know schedule that had to. happen did at 11:00 p.m. last night in a. hotel parking lot not for the cameras. there was no cam around the person.

walked by and said it was just him and. one other person who was catching the. ball for him did not know who it was. Will Howard is ready to come out here. and make a big impression I believe I've. not talked to will I've not talked to. Will's people I don't know them that. well a lot of people are asking like hey. Pat is Will Howard got you guys on a. payroll no we just so happen to be at. all of these games where he played his. best ball and he's a big son of a [ __ ]. and whenever you talk about being big. whenever you talk about having Moxy when. you talk about being likable and. whenever you talk about being able to. put a ball on a DOT it's like is that.

not what we're looking for in the. quarterback and then allegedly uh I was. at Cafe patatu this morning obviously in. Indianapolis staple great there's a lot. of people there and uh some people were. dropping some information had a great. breakfast with Rich Eisen shout out to. Rich Eisen for paying for breakfast. getting a chance to kind of see people. and chat with people there's people that. are like uh 10 of Ohio State guys were. kind of asked if you could bring one. player with you to the next level to a. team who would it be and I think eight. or nine of them said will Howard so when. you talk about a guy being loved by the.

boys especially with how that season. went losing to Michigan losing to Oregon. a lot of money a lot of names lot of. egos a lot of hype going in that could. have kind of spun in on of itself got to. give credit to Ryan Day obviously for. keeping the boys rolling got to give. credit to Chip Kelly for being able to. keep the boys rolling who I saw. yesterday he looks fantastic I'm going. go back to college win a National. Championship then I'm and come up to the. NFL and try to do the same damn thing as. an offens coordinat this time not a head. coach in the NFL has a lot more off of. his plate he's able to just focus on. football which would be good but but. will Howard had touchdown celebration.

dances with every guy on the Ohio State. bucke guys he was the guy that they. looked to to rally and he was the guy. that got it done he's a national. champion he's a stud and he seems like a. perfect guy to lead your program will he. come out here with Cam wish Shor not. thrown Jackson Dart will be thrown want. the old. Miss well easy easy you say that we even. allowed to say Old Miss are we even. allowed to say the school name actually. you can't even mention the state of. Mississippi oh is this America yeah it.

is there's a lot of people you know. saying a lot of I we didn't start it. okay it happened to be the number one. Tren in the world for about two days we. allude to it say no nam I got people. saying I'm a terrible I didn't what do. we reporting the news that's all I've. already done this dance I've already. done this dance with somebody from. Mississippi before okay so uh I'm I'm. ready if you would like all the people. that are coming after me we're ready we. are a in that world but Jackson dart out. of a University in South I guess not.

even allow to say oh we even allow to. say that whole thing but he could. potentially make a massive jump in this. entire thing I love the opportunity for. these guys whenever other people choose. not to perform and uh I think we're. going to see that now today tight end. secondary tone what happened yesterday. that is notable and what's going to. happen today that we need to talk about. yeah we'll start yes yesterday and we'll. start with the dline Shamar Stewart was. the basically the Talk of the Town uh. last night during the workouts he waited. at 65267 when uh was he was at the. Senior Bowl he was 65 281 so he lost.

about 14 pounds to do what he did. yesterday obviously you're looking right. there he ran a 459 at that height and. weight which is absurd he also jumped a. 40in vertical and a 1011 broad he. basically had the same exact numbers as. miles Garrett in the combine obviously. miles you know was a top pick and had 32. and a half sacks in college Shamar only. had four and a half sacks in college so. the the production wasn't there but as. an athlete he was an absolute freak. yesterday yeah and he lost some from the. Senior Bowl until now he was listed at.

uh 66 290 in the guide so was he. originally that then he gets down to 281. now he's at 267 it's like what will we. end up being if he gets down to 260 255. is he only going to get faster runs a. 4559 at almost 270 lbs what an absolute. specimen and I believe everything he did. was in like the 99th percentile or 98th. percentile and you know I don't think a. lot of people knew Shamar Stewart's name. maybe before yesterday and then. yesterday everybody's like hey this. guy's going to do a day this guy's going. to have a day and he did so he shows up.

in a big moment has the body type in the. making to be a great NFL player good for. Shamar Stewart making himself some real. money yesterday great uh also on the DN. dline group uh Landon Jackson uh out of. Arkansas he is 66 270 he jumped 40 and a. half in his in his vertical then he ran. a. 468 which is ridiculous he had 6 and a. half sacks each of the last two seasons. he's a late round first early second guy. who probably helped his stock a ton. yesterday he also redeemed himself in.

the bag drill in high school he had a. tape come out that wasn't great in the. bag drill yesterday just an absolute. monster just a different human being. yeah definitely and I I think he was. obviously going crazy around the. internet because of that high school bag. drill and people like remember this guy. and it was like no I actually didn't and. then once I saw the video I was like oh. yeah I remember the guy walking up. stopping smacking a bag and then jogging. four yards smacking another bag and. rolling he had a hell of a day for the. woo Pig sooie bunch yeah hell of a day. then we go to the linebacker position a.

guy we talked about yesterday who was. going to show out and did show out Jad. Campbell the linebacker from Alabama he. weighed in 63235 ran a 45 uh and then. was just at like super smooth in the. linebacker drills so he secured himself. a first round spot yesterday and like. watching his tape like he sees ball he. goes and gets ball so he he definitely. helped himself yesterday and then the. last one was James Pierce Jr who when. you were going through Abdul Carter. stats yesterday you were talking about. Abdul Carter and then you the second. name that you mentioned the entire time. was James Pierce Jr The Edge out of. Tennessee. um he had 17 sacks the last two seasons.

he ran a. 447 yesterday at 65245 so I think he. solidified himself as the number two. Edge to probably come off the somehow. everybody's getting faster bigger and. stronger and it's an honor to watch you. know all the hard work that has gone in. behind the scenes to get to this point. remember we're just watching these dudes. do these things the amount of hours and. early wakeup calls and strict diet and. everything that has gotten to this point. absolutely bananas congrats to James. Pierce Jr let's go back to Jihad. Campbell cuz I was watching all the. workouts last night I think they went.

till about 10 10:05 10:15 last night. late night last night and I was watching. the entire thing he's long he's lanky. yeah he is a long lanky fell incredibly. smooth a lot of the workouts they had. them doing uncomfortable and awkward. we're talking about full Sprints One. Direction then telling you to stop turn. around having to Sprint back and then. catch the ball being thrown directly at. you maybe at your body or at your face. tough things to do he was clean. throughout the entirety there was a guy. from Georgia yeah sh Mond sh what's his. name sh Mund I believe what mundon I.

believe it's how you pronounce his first. name I could be completely wrong I'm not. 100% sure if that is what his name is. but SM a l mundon Junior yeah small Mund. whatever it is he's a linebacker can we. put the Tweet up that I put out there uh. yeah here's the is that the work yeah. here it is schma mundan JR linebacker. from Georgia I didn't know we didn't I I. thought we didn't have the video we must. have found found it very late okay so we. find the video so he's running one of. these drills right here and I'm watching. this last night and it's is moving you. talk about 50 plus tackles each of the.

last three seasons these are the. exercises full Sprint that way stop turn. now a strike is being thrown at you and. he that hits him right in the face and. he just jogs it right off and to be. honest I don't know how that doesn't. happen more to these guys how often are. you sprinting directly at a quarterback. and he's throwing a strike right at your. face so that thing you're running full. speed One Direction because that's how. you're being judged are you going to be. able to go full speed stop turn Go full. speed back and then that thing's running. right at your face looks like an easy. catch a lot of guys made the catch a lot.

of guys dropped it he got hit right in. the face bonked right in the nose or the. eye I thought potentially they said no. and he end up getting back in there but. it was a lot of activity it went very. long last night and the energy was. insane on the field we saw some guys. benching this morning a lot of juice. looked like there was some movement. feels like there's some special. situations popping up here yeah it is. and uh then today we we move on to the. Dbacks and the tight ends like you said. and a guy that I think is going to do. kind of what uh Shamar Stewart did. yesterday is and while everybody is Nick. eeman warry who's a safety from South.

Carolina he's 63 225 and he expects to. run like low 43s and he is just an. absolute monster on tape he like. remember when Taylor Mae came out and. and wowed everybody at his height weight. and then ran like in the four threes. they're expecting Nick IM and worry to. do that today Malachi Starks who's the. um safety from Georgia who is personally. when you look at the safeties he is by. far the best at playing the ball in this. draft he's going to run in the four. threes most likely today people are. going to be very very impressed by that. and then you move to the tight ends we.

talked about the tight ends that aren't. doing anything today and Conor. referenced Harold Fanon out of bullying. green a Mac guy so we're going to see. him today uh he set the record for most. yards and most catches in a tight end in. in one season in football in college. football history uh so we'll look at him. today and then the other one is kind of. a forgotten guy on that Oregon offense. Terence Ferguson tight end he said he's. going to run very well today he's 65 260. so if he moves well today he's also. going to move up okay so Terence. Ferguson obviously uh that Oregon. offense is what it is is you know the. way they move the ball and everything.

like that he was a monster but they got. a lot of guys over there on that Oregon. team that are monsters excited to see. him show up and then in the secondary. there's a guy that's going to run a four. or two yeah Maxwell Harrison he's out of. Kentucky he's the guy that DJ said. yesterday was one of his three guys that. he said could push the Xavier worthy. record um and then we talked to some. sources about Maxwell Harrison who uh. said he's definitely going to run. probably they expect him to be the. fastest 40 of the draft okay well he's. not the only one that thinks that I saw. a couple people say they're going to run. the fast yeah both out of Texas Isaiah.

Bond thinks that he's going to run the. fastest of all time wide receiver I. think we have the video right. foxy going to break the record tomorrow. for sure uh I anticipate running 420 or. possibly I'm feeling great I might one. 4-1 okay okay so he he feels like that's. how he's going to go Mr Bond shout out. to him saying that and he wasn't the. only one yeah Jaden blue out of Texas. the running back out of Texas he said. the same exact thing so those Texas boys. which you know they ran with Xavier last. year so they might have an idea of their. speed against him so they think they're. going to compete with him yeah and. obviously sarc just is a uh track.

Factory I guess down there makes you. wonder you know with uh everything else. going on is that just going to continue. is Texas going to continue to have that. speed and if they do what is Arch. Manning going to do with it uhoh Quinn. your was uh playing through an injury. last year is kind of what the narrative. has become here at combine so a lot of. people are impressed with his toughness. we'll see how he throws and does. everything here at the combine excited. to watch that the the convo around the. combine though yeah is not a been about. the prospects. it has not been about what's going on in.

the field now granted if Bond runs a 419. it'll certainly that'll become or blue. does whatever the case that'll become. the convo the convo here is is a deal. going to get done with Matthew Stafford. because remember this beautiful city of. Indianapolis Indiana which is the. greatest host of any event that you. would like to have literally any event. you'd like to have Indianapolis would. like to host it and we'll do it better. than anybody else we're built for. hosting we love hosting and the reason.

is because we got a lot of restaurants. that are within walking distance to. everything we got a lot of servers the. service industry here in Indianapolis. very much understands what the deal is. they'll keep restaurants open they'll. keep bars open they'll give back rooms. they'll give privacy they'll let people. have their convos and it's become an NFL. spring break to get deals done or test. out the waters for if there's any other. conversations to be had the big one. Happening Here Matthew Stafford he's the. first Domino they say in the quarterback. not just for the older potential free.

agent quarterbacks not that Matthew. Stafford's a free agent but he's been. allowed to Snoop around so you might as. well consider him that Aaron Rogers. hasn't officially been released but he's. like a free agent Sam darnold the entire. Russell Wilson Justin Fields you know. Kirt cousins potentially we'll see what. happens with him but the Domino that. needs to fall first allegedly is Matthew. Stafford he is looking to get paid from. what everybody has been saying and once. he gets decided now the draft class. quarterbacks get viewed a little bit. differently now the other veteran. quarterbacks get viewed a little bit.

differently but what the hell is going. to happen with Matthew Stafford well I. think it's been reported and if it. hasn't been reported I guess uh we we no. I don't think we're breaking any news I. think everything that we're about to say. has been reported it is difficult though. a doubt yeah because there's a lot of. conversations happening with a lot of. people that know a lot of [ __ ] here at. the combine so what's going into this. year like uh am I the amount of times. I'm saying am I allowed to say that has. that been am I what is the you know I. feel like I'm an Insider this was doing.

yesterday I feel like we all do like CU. we're just shaking hands with people and. passing and they're just dropping. information it's like I didn't know that. is that uh you say off the Record yeah. yeah but we're trying not to catch. anybody up and we're not in The Insider. game but I think what has been reported. is this morning as we speak either. moments ago or still currently Matthew. Stafford in the Los Angeles Rams meeting. now there are other teams that are very. very very interested from what is being. reported and what source says have been. telling us uh the Raiders allegedly very.

very interested allegedly there is an. offer that is very much in play for. Matthew Stafford to potentially you know. go to the Raiders if he doesn't get. something figured out with the Los. Angeles Rams where he only has 4 million. guaranteed coming up into next season. which is basically a nothing contract. for any player let alone a starting. quarterback let alone a guy who's going. to end up in the Hall of Fame who wants. to play ball still so whenever you think. about Matthew Stafford you think about. okay he's having a convo with the Rams. today if that ends up going very well. does he go back to the Los Angeles Rams.

okay if he goes back to the Los Angeles. Rams now everybody that was looking at. Matthew Stafford to potentially be their. quarterback is still in the market. Raiders Giants Steelers how about the. Browns they're going to go young but. what are they going to do so once. Matthew gets figured out which we are. being told and I think it's being. reported is going to get figured out. today today we will know what is going. on with Matthew does that mean during. our show does that mean later tonight. who knows but what's happening with. Matthew allegedly cooking as we speak. over there in Los Angeles well you.

mentioned it I mean this kind of. everything hinges on this we really. can't move any other chest pieces until. this gets done and it kind of sounds. like I mean we if if nothing gets done. with the Rams something is in place with. the Raiders now granted you know there's. still pieces that need to be moved. around but you wonder you know if he. does go to the Raiders is that one of. those things where hey he's going to. bring Cooper cup with him and he maybe. brings a couple other guys with him. because we already know that the Rams. are going to move on from Cooper cup now. obviously I think the Rams give him the. best chance to win in the interim but. who's to I mean the the the Raiders.

haven't had a quarterback in years. that's kind of what I mean this is a new. Raiders gon yeah that's what I'm say I. mean that was the last guy worth of [ __ ]. you know kind of speaking of Derek Carr. alleged going to be the Saints. quarterback going forward exactly great. player great he was he was great but. obviously didn't have the type of. success so it does kind of feel like. Matthew Stafford he might be one of. those guys where if he goes to the. Raiders you know who's to say that he. doesn't turn them around you know right. away obviously we know the Rams want him. back it's it's all about the money at. this point but we'll see what happens. you know you get a couple suitors out.

there kind of tickling your taint and. and and maybe you don't decide you knowy. I want to go somewhere else yeah there. is a chance that that happens con oh. yeah it's very plausible and it it also. sets the draft like when you're looking. at those top four picks you know the. team two of the teams you just mentioned. the Browns and the Giants they're both. in the top three and those are kind of. the quarterback needy teams still and. you know with the Raiders you would. think sure they could go get Stafford. they can get cup but I I wouldn't rule. out them even draft from the quarterback. after that because Brady is probably one.

of the loudest guys of hey sitting. behind someone and learning and being. able to see that obviously him and blo. Rogers you know and there's been guys. who H haven't done that and have had a. ton of success Jaden Daniels but it. feels like that is kind of the most for. or for sure way uh to get your rookie. quarterback to become great immediately. and then you know that that would set up. some of the other teams as well and the. Browns you would assume no matter what. at two are going to take a quarterback.

just because that number two pick has. just been the you know definitely going. to be a guy if if you have the number. two pick and you take a quarterback let. the number one team do their thing you. guys decide hands off you know at number. two whatever quarterback you take. history tells us in the last two years. they are going to be unbelievable. immediately but really Stafford is going. to make so many massive you know. decisions for other teams based on where. he goes and with this upcoming draft and. the Las biggest Raiders you know. obviously they're looking at a. quarterback need a quarterback talked to.

Chip Kelly yesterday Chip Kelly said uh. I literally right out here I said you. guys need a quarterback right he goes. every team needs quarterback and I'm. like okay Jeff that's not true okay no. but he's saying technically yes every. team he was literally like just being. like uh yeah I need a quarterback to. play football you know and he said to. you you want to play quarterback for us. I'm like Chip Kelly offense hold on are. you going to be calling that you know. that entirety I I think the fascinating. situation with the Raiders and you. brought it up there all the OG.

quarterbacks are like we're rushing. these guys in here we're rushing these. guys in here we're giving these guys no. chance at all now Tom Brady who. everybody at the combine has basically. said very active Tom Brady has been very. active in being the owner of the Raiders. Tom Brady has been very active in like. hey not only my investment but also if. I'm associated with this place I would. like it to do well I would like it to go. well now he just so happened to be. skiing in Montana yeah at the same exact. time Matthew Stafford was skiing in.

Montana they're both incredibly wealthy. got same houses or got houses in the. same Community out there in Montana and. they just so happen to be there and you. know that is uh that's kind of what's. being reported by one particular party. of the Starbucks scuffle and on the. other side of the Starbucks star down. and saying you think they just so. happened to be in the same town in. Montana at the same exact time in this. time frame where one is wondering what. the future looks like and the other is. needing that exact person that's what. Schultz is saying NFL Network saying.

they just so Happ hey happen stance this. happens with rich people all the time. and Schultz goes I know I've grown up in. the ridgew world but there is always so. that has been an argument but I think. what hasn't been said is that they. didn't meet when he was out there that. they didn't go skiing together whenever. they were out there and that kind of. Falls in line with everything we're. hearing about Tom Brady as the owner. whenever the head coach interview was. happening with Pete Carroll you know's. running the interview Tom Brady whenever. every other interview was happening. around the building you know on the. interview Tom Brady general manager.

think Tom Brady now I would assume Tom. Brady is very much involved in who's. going to be our quarterback and I think. that is why whenever PFT in Floria. reports like hey there's common ground. in Vegas it's like yeah cuz Tom Brady's. quarterback understands quarterback. situation understands exactly exactly. where Matthew Stafford is whenever he. went down to Tampa and he can also tell. Matthew who's looking for a massive. paycheck allegedly is what being said. now there is nine figures on uh in an. offer sheet somewhere edly for Matthew. Stafford in this entire thing at this.

stage congratulations to him on that but. Tom took like 25 mil guaranteed to go. down there to Tampa to build up a team. and win it's like what is he saying. versus what other teams are saying what. does Matthew Stafford want how's the. meeting go this morning with the Rams I. mean there's just so much to kind of go. into it all and all eyes are on the. Georgia Bulldog Matthew Stafford draft. class 2009 oo you know something about. you you mentioned it he got picked 221. picks ahead of me you knew that bad well. it's a doubt but uh you know and and a.

lot of people said hey maybe you should. have you know been a second third round. guy you know and they just didn't give. you the opportunity didn't look enough. tape you know maybe didn't get eyes on. you I didn't get invited the combine I. didn't get invited the combine thanks. Madill not my decision no that's not. what I heard you have many combin have. you done uh every single one of them. okay so not my decision I'm not inviting. guys you know I'm not I'm not oh so you. don't have any say well you know do I. have say do I not have say I mean that. kind of you know that that's something. we don't need to really discuss right. now you mentioned the money situation. though with Stafford I you don't want to.

phrase it like all he cares about is. money obviously he's a quarterback in. the NFL he's going he has a Hall of Fame. career exactly but you talk about those. situations uh let's look at the tax. situation in Vegas a little bit. different than the tax situation in La a. little bit different than what they're. reporting about you know the the New. York Giants saying hey 90 to 100 Mil. guaranteed right when you come here your. uh your dollar is going a little bit. farther in uh Las Vegas than it's going. into any of those other places so if. money is you know one of the kind of end. all Bealls of this. one of the caveats if you will then.

who's to say the Raiders aren't you know. in terms of being able to compete with. the Rams they're right there so let's. just play this out real quick Matthew. Stafford goes to Raiders that means we. assume Aaron's going to be in. conversation with the Rams you would. assume that is how that is going to go. darnold probably too and then darnold. probably in conf with the Rams with. anybody at that point and then now these. other teams that at the top that need a. quarterback they have to start saying. okay do we dive deeper into the rookie. quarterbacks now is that maybe what. shador and cam are hearing too like hey.

teams are kind of waiting to see. what for sure is happening with the. veterans quarterbacks before that and. are they like well if we throw now and. we have a great day of course it matters. but the only thing we can do is hurt. oursel maybe going into this. conversation I don't love it I. understand it business-wise but if you. go out here and light it up maybe. whenever one of these teams that is. going to inevitably end up without a vet. goes yeah I want that guy over that guy. now Browns we assume going to take a. quarterback we assume they're gonna take. quarterback because they have to because.

it has to be a rookie quarterback has to. be cheap they can't afford anybody else. because they don't have it so whoever. goes there everybody saying cam Ward. everybody's saying that's going to be. cam Ward he's the number one quarterback. so now you look at the Giants you look. obviously at the Titans you look at the. Raiders you look at a lot of these teams. that need QBs Who falls in where I think. there's a chance that more. rookies yeah kind of get drafted early. than we had been talking about all the. way up until this point well that's why. the movement will be so interesting like. the obviously the pat rots the Jags at. you know four and five neither of those.

teams are taking a quarterback the. Patriots have Drake May the Jags paid a. lot of money to their quarterback so. they're not doing anything I mean titans. Browns Giants Raiders Jets yeah all of. them all of them need a quarterback top. seven and nine saying that they're. sticking with Derek but they need a. quarterback too you get a rookie. quarterback in there I mean that's a lot. they met with Cam they met with Cam Ward. and they don't have that much money. obviously they're in cap hell for who. knows how long so who says they wouldn't. trade up to New New England at at four. cuz I think it was maybe it was field or.

was DJ yesterday talking about how at 5. you know the jets are in love with. somebody there's only cam or shador left. who says they don't hop the Raiders and. go to five and take take a quarterback. and then I don't even want to speak just. for our city but I mean the Indianapolis. Colts at 14 they said it's open. competition the quarterback when they. want a young guy or they maybe want. something else I mean like there's a lot. of teams as you start to look at it and. as we start to hear conversations and. now granted the people we're hearing.

from are people that would like these. younger guys you know they would like. these younger guys get opportunity but. they're like hey we're hearing a lot. more interest than what is being. reported as teams continue to look at. their situation and situation around it. it's like yeah maybe we take a shot on a. guy because a quarterback can be very. cheap and that can help your entire. salary cap if you can hit on a rookie. guy but also I so I was listening to. your podcast yesterday Mel um and you. made a good point about you know the. Giants at number three like day ball and. Joe Shane like how many if they don't if. they don't win this year like they're.

already on the hot seat how are they. going to do it with a rookie quarterback. at three if they don't get Matt Stafford. like I looked into this and maybe it was. somebody that was around deall in Shane. not them exactly but somebody from that. area maybe the pr Pur sure okay may the. pr person could be comes over and says. like hey our building thinks you've been. very fair with everything just want to. let you know that like with the way we. talked about the Hard Knocks and. everything like they don't hold it get. like hey you guys have been very very. fair and I was like that was very kind.

then dropped in a little. reminder deos won like five Super Bowls. he was Coach of the Year National. Champion like hey uh yeah I know it's. with Bill but he's just saying like he's. been around a lot Nick and Nick Sabin. and Bill bich are like deo's guys. they're like let's not like don't forget. that please in your conversation with. everything we have going on like please. don't forget that Dao has had massive. success which is why Mara is very much. like okay you've seen it you've done it. we behind the eightball in a couple. situations let's see what you do but.

them getting a Young quarterback you. would think would be able to help out. the rest of the roster or maybe them. going with the vet like they're saying. with Matthew stord like if they get a. vet and then they they uh pair neighbors. with you know one of the best athletes. of all time in Travis Hunter to come out. and whether he's playing white out or. dback like they immediately become a. better team than shadur and and Connor. kind of mentioned it like if they do get. Stafford the Raiders still they've been. mocked shur at eight or whatever seven. or eight whatever it is uh in every. single mock because you know the.

relationship with Tom and the N. quarterback so like yeah what happens. with Stafford be kind of put not a bow. on it everything but like what what. happens with Stafford is is huge and. allegedly today for everything so last. night I was watching the combine I. thought the NFL Network did a great job. with combine congratulations to them MH. legit I think they've done a good job. with figuring out how to film it and do. it rich and Daniel J Jeremiah are like. the perfect tone for it it's long I mean. you're watching golf you're watching. golf in there VES did look sweet in.

always does he's a big son of a [ __ ]. too you know what I'm saying he's just a. big son of a [ __ ] if you're a player. out there and you want to coach for. someone that's been there done that. we're talking about Travis Hunter how. many Super Bowl catches how many. touchdowns Hunter a few not just one a. few what did they say that about the. Patriots with Travis Hunter uh that the. meeting you know between Vel and Travis. they did have a little J little convers. before left talking about like hey.

you're not the first guy to do this yeah. but also in the evaluation of Travis. Hunter the New England Patriots have we. heard anything about how uh the Patriots. said they consider and this is just. being reported this isn't from this is. not from Vel to us this is from other. people's reporting no this is just from. reporting and it's not from Elliot wolf. either but they consider Travis Hunter. the number one corner and the number one. wide receiver now that could be coming. from Travis Hunter's agent who heard. that from I mean there's just so much. [ __ ] that gets kind of thrown around out. here was like footballs by Will Howard.

at 11:00 at night inot think we were. told that by somebody not associated. with the NFL somebody lives in. Indianapolis we we live here so we know. a lot of people around town and they're. like hey saw a guy huge guy just. throwing a football in a parking lot at. 11 o'clock at night we're like look at. Uncle Rico down here and then we said. yeah [ __ ] it we're going to go see who. that is it was Will Howard it was Will. Howard and then just like a quick what. the hell is going on to the other guy. who they did not know and he's like ah. schedule he has like a schedule there. was a you know so he got to do this it's. like this guy might be the guy mhm this.

guy might be the guy in no this person. couldn't reiterate enough. the the guy that taught us this the. source I don't want to give I almost. just said name there no I almost did too. ear we do not that's the whole thing. that the biggest day of this dude's life. a guy in the NL yeah huh a guy in the. NFL no no it's Indie guy it's an indie. guy that that saw this who literally was. just downtown and saw it and it's like. the thought that there was no cameras. around like wasn't trying it was just.

like I got to get this in somewhere it. was like back parking lot like hidden. away almost as if trying not to just. trying to get [ __ ] done it's like that's. a hilarious aspect of it all who are. football gu who are guys that you want. to bring into your culture you know it's. like if you listen to Crystal Ball down. in Miami cam W definitely a guy you want. to bring in he said he flipped that. entire place on a Ted was an incredible. leader shador has it in like everywhere. shador is gone team has followed and. gotten better incredible toughness. obviously able to do the entirety.

Jackson darts beloved We Believe down. there in the school in the South. School sweet potato pie. and we should probably uh put a line. through that yeah I don't even know if. we're allowed to have that on the. graphic underneath Jackson Dart you know. you don't say names and people still I. mean there's Lane kein team there's been. a lot of. things brother it's a number one Trend. in in the world what are you going to do. well what do we I mean we are topical ex.

like what do we and I think if you. listen to the entirety there's some. empathy there at the end oh yeah and the. whole situation which we certainly have. but with that being said made a footall. point not ready just want to let. everybody know right no names alluded to. a very very very very very very very. very very. viral dots tied it in he a legended a. couple times a lot of times cuz we.

learned our lesson because we've danced. this dance before yeah it's not our with. a Mississippi person we've done this. entire thing before so I I mean we hate. that the. situation happened but it did sure and. it's like we didn't create that no it's. like we just we we report the news Ness. he's beloved by his team you watch the. the Jackson Dart is Bel loved by his. team down there in all Miss it's like. all these guys seem like guys you want. to get in your building too which would.

be great for an organization and uh I'm. excited to see if this draft class has a. lot more winners than it does losers. because there's next to no hype but the. reason that there is no hype is maybe. because these guys are just boring Team. guys like maybe you know maybe these. guys are just boring Team guys in this. entirety I think a lot of it has to do. with you know the quarterback class last. year was just so good too and and they. don't think those guys like just by. watching tape or whatever are those guys. yet so it's like hey down year so they. don't have the hype or whatever but you. know when we were talking about the.

Raiders you know they knew do have a new. OC and you talk about will Howard like. could that be it doesn't feel like he's. going to go number eight over there but. it could it be a second round raid yeah. I mean you have no idea I legitimately I. mean b what I'm B at this time last year. was not a first TR Bingo then he puts on. a show NE was Penn Penn wasn't either. yeah Shawn Payton meets with him and. Sean's like I love this guy you start. looking at the tape through like your. offense's eyes with the guy even J even. JJ last year and he was the guy he. wasn't doing it in a parking lot he was. doing it in the uh convention hallways. or whatever and he actually got filmed. you know uh everything gets filmed by.

the way yeah yeah so I mean that did not. with wi there last night once again. because they that's crazy to me that. that's happening but to your point go. ahead pal no I was I was just saying. like because because of last year's. class and how they performed in their. first year I think that's why the the. hype isn't there but who says that that. can't happen with all the guys this year. too it's it's also inevitable that as we. sit right now like this game of. quarterback musical chairs someone's. going to get left out and someone is. going to panic on draft night I know. this class you know even on my big board. don't have a whole bunch of these.

quarterbacks you know going yeah yet. exactly we'll see what they do on the. field but there's going to be one of. these teams who's putting all their. chips in either the Matt Stafford or the. Aaron Rogers basket and that doesn't. work out for them so they might be. inclined to you know trade back up in. the first round or or do something like. that and who's to say that we don't see. you know four guys four quarterbacks get. drafted in the first round well that's. what's crazy like we're talking about if. Stafford's here there all over the place. if he stays in LA right okay so now all. of a sudden none of those top 10 teams.

that were looking at Stafford they're. not getting them let's say because of. the Aaron Rogers situation who knows if. teams want to do that because at least. with Stafford you know you got four or. five years you know he's still playing. at a playoff level Rogers although we we. think he's great that it didn't go well. for the Jets and then looking at Darnell. what if he stays in Minnesota it's like. there's so many the musical CH last two. games with Sam darnold they they were. tough and that might have hurt a that. crazy $75 million yeah it wouldn't. really make sense for him to sign a.

massive deal in Minnesota because you. know koc's KOC you know say what you. want about JJ McCarthy if JJ McCarthy. isn't great KOC is gonna make him great. okay no ma no matter what that's why you. have Justin Jefferson and TJ Hawkinson. and Aaron Addison and maybe Aaron Jones. comes back like that situation seems set. up for any quarterback so it might only. be Sam darnold and then all of a sudden. it's like okay well the Giants and. Browns they're they're not probably. going to move they're probably going to. stay Pat so do the Raiders then go get.

darnold do the Raiders then you know try. and move up to one because that's. another thing with the Titans like we're. talking about the Titans like well. they're probably not going to take a. quarterback what the hell are we talking. about okay we all watched the Titans. last year they still need a quarterback. and this is a new GM and we've seen it. with new GMS you've talked about it all. the time like those guys want the stamp. on their own team and sure like they. have you know this I think the Titans. are praying to God that somebody really. wants one. sure y cuz they probably wanted you talk. about a new team exactly and maybe they.

take you know Abdul Carter who is you. know generational as we say even though. he's got a foot injury who knows no no. one team said or we don't know how many. teams maybe two teams said but there's. 32 teams that are testing that foot out. and he woke up the next day and I I. would assume another team's medical said. we assume this has been the way this way. for a while well only the Titans GM or. whatever was the guy that said he didn't. even say him he just said a lot of. people hate that generational world ha. yeah but you never know yeah correct.

somebody could be is AD in venar. generational YH you could say that I. would say right you think whenever he. was coming out of South Dakota State go. big go Blue Go Jack anybody was saying. this guy's going to be generational I. don't think so you know you have no idea. that's the thing about the draft that we. have to remember we need to remember. this and we talk about this on draft. night a lot because we have six hours to. do it it's like a lot of these guys are. going to suck can't wait okay a lot of. these guys are going to suck and a lot. of people that we think are going to. suck turn out to be yeah pretty good and. a lot of people we have no opinion about.

come out of nowhere and are great I mean. that is just the history of the NFL that. is the reality of every single draft. class and that is also the reality of. this time of year when people really win. somebody over you win over one team. you're in a good spot okay in the draft. you win over two teams much better spot. now granted you win over three this is. just like business anytime you have more. people interested in your product you're. going to have a runup offer you're going. to be able to do that whole thing but. all it takes is one Lanta Falcons of. pennic. they were the ones they said we love. this guy we just paid a guy we don't.

care this is somebody that we think is. generational when maybe if you didn't. watch Michael penon college at. Washington or at Indiana you didn't. think that going into the draft because. he wasn't chatting about as much as. Caleb and Jaden and Drake may you you. get it in that entire thing all you need. is one Team Shawn Payton love and Bo. Knicks all you need is one team and. whenever you hear somebody say Doran. draft KN well that was a reach no that. was one team that liked somebody a lot. more than everybody else and we'll that. they have a vision for a said person and. have them make or make them successful.

well and some of those guys I feel like. we talk about a bunch the their entire. career like they we we almost get bored. with them like Brock Bowers when he was. a freshman at Georgia it was like oh. this guy is this guy is generational he. he's going to go and then he doesn't. even go in the top 10 you know it's like. guys obviously you go back you redraft. he's a a top three pick he was one of. the best players in the N I think he was. all pro this year was he was he one of. the first second set the he set the. record yeah like he he set the all-time. record for rookies and and it's. situations like that like with Tyler.

Warren you think about it's like hey. this guy was so good at football but. he's not going to do the combine he's. going to do his pro day and he's doing. meetings and stuff but like who says he. doesn't drop and then in October it's. like how was Tyler Warren not a top five. pick why wasn't he talked about as one. of the best dudes and then you know you. mentioned too some of these guys that. are gonna suck they'll end up like Makai. beckon where they'll be talked about and. ridiculed for so long and then they'll. go to a situation like Philly and be you. know a future alltime guard one of the.

highest paid guys could end up like that. the guys that end up sucking and just. not finding the right home or just. actually sucking your football we don't. talk about them ever but Maki finding a. new home I mean it's happening with Sam. it's happening it's happen with L of. these guys but other positions it very. much happens as well I mean our Guy. debut our Guy debut gets drafted uh. third round second round second top of. the second round yeah top of the second. round first late you know whenever it's. his pick is traded on draft night they. go it's basically like an end of first.

you know like if you're about to do this. conversation goes to New England okay. goes Carolina okay comes Indianapolis. perfect setup and he's at the perfect. time of his career so there are some. people that maybe need to find their. spot and go off it's like but there's. going to be guys that we don't expect to. be Hall of Famers Hall of Famers out. here oh yeah oh yeah and you talk about. Tyler Warren it's like wasn't he their. he was their he he was was their offense. yes and they didn't have wide receivers. I wonder why or what the combo is going. to be about him especially with the.

importance of a tight end in an offense. yes I mean if you look at how important. that position has become to the sport of. football feels like the tight end should. get a lot of shine which today big day. for that okay speaking of things that. would no longer Shine the chains oh no. yeah Chain Gang chain gang is back up. officially and. uh dead. good mad M we're about to have a moment. of silence for the Chain Gang ah [ __ ] it. chain gang sucks what now listen if.

we're watching leather heads you know if. guys have leather helmets on or we're. going back to the 1960s sure the only. thing that we heard about the Chain Gang. in the last couple years was when one of. these guys who was overweight and. probably shouldn't have been on the. field you know not in good shape would. have like a horrific leg break that was. the only time we were talking about the. change or you know if it was here we go. yeah that's I mean what the hell there's. a billion multi-billion dollar league. and we're getting a chain link fence and.

bringing it out like what the hell are. we doing don't we have the technology. where we can finally move past this well. the strength of the chain is obviously. the strength of each individual link and. every once in a while when one link. starts dosing with another link it. causes an absolute logistical Nightmare. on uning the Chain now I do believe it. has lost a lot of its luster since this. defense offense I don't know I don't. know Jing I know his face I know hey. Jack you're going to be coaching in. Europe pal a little bit of a dust up. here. first time Jason Garrick goes hey how. about it how about it now the issue with.

it all is and that's a tush push play. there that is also being discussed. obviously at the uh the entirety but a. little bit deeper into this tush push. play is uh is the spotting of the ball. okay how are they going to spot the ball. well they said that they're going to use. some sensor now okay so Chen gang's out. they're going to use some sensor this. was pitched last year mhm Hawkeye techn. I assume this was pitched a decade ago. but last year it was actually put onto.

the field of play and the only reason. why we know this is because I've been an. avid hey this can't be in 2024 how this. goes we can't be just judging things off. of us we can we can send a FaceTime you. you can send a thing up to a satellite. and then it can just send over some and. we can just see people in 8k somehow. okay I have no idea how that we can. create AI can think get anything and we. can't figure out where the hell the ball. is without bringing this thing out I.

respect and appreciate it as a backup if. we if we need doubt if there's a. malfunction in something but there has. to be some sort of technology that is. able to actually document not only first. downs touchdowns you talk about. everything uh punts even it helps out. like where' the ball go out of bounds I. mean there's just like so many things. field goals if it's up over top of the. post where's it I mean so many things. that if we could figure out that. technology what you would assume you. could but and then the people from. tennis Hawkeye came in and said we got. you we already got to figure it out we. need cameras down the lines we need a.

camera moving now and then we'll be able. to do it we are celebrating these people. okay we had Mack androe on Mack androe. from the tennis community said oh. Hawkeye technology now that adds in a. whole another element we said what's. that and he said well tennis players say. that with their eyes best in the world. these tennis players they look down with. their eyes and they clearly see that the. ball is out of bounds so they challenge. it which is why Hawkeye happens and then. Hawkeye goes. and then boom hits the end of the thing.

and the tennis player is like that's not. real like I literally just saw it now. Grant a heat of the motion maybe a. little bit of blur maybe sweat drips in. the ey maybe you miss it whatever the. case is maybe Hawkeye is right but this. adds in a whole another element of. rigged conversations that are on its way. that we didn't know was happening in. tennis with the Hawkeye technology but. there are tennis players that are like. oh this the the league is working. against me right now the league wants. this person to win like there's people. that think Hawkeye works against so. whenever Hawkeye gets the NFL we're. excited but we are precautious a.

littleit then then it debuted and it was. crap okay absolute crap it was a. preseason game Detroit Lions throw oh. what a ball What A Catch gorgeous keep. the clock rolling here second quarter. obviously Kennedy makes a great catch. they show a replay from the beginning of. the play now we're 35 seconds in this. obviously 45 seconds into this thing. everybody now I I assume commentar is. chitchatting about it but they haven't. shown it on there they're trying to. figure out where the hell the ball was. okay was it a first down was it not a. first down we got this new Hawkeye. technology the central will be able to.

tell us Dan Campbell goes Hawkeye where. are we cuz on tennis we turn up look at. the. screen it's immediate and we could have. got you know people with 14 different. eyes and Chain Gang out on the field to. the other side maybe they have run a. gaser we're still waiting it's 3 minutes. and 16 seconds later 319 all on air. first of all and then boom it's short. it's like okay everybody I guess that's. good 3 minutes and 30 seconds so that is. longer than the Chain Gang so if we're. going to bring in this technology all we.

hope is that it's more efficient because. the bitching about reviews and the. bitching about everything else all. revolves around the game stopping and. other stuff happening so as long as this. can be efficient and accurate we're all. in and I think everybody will be all in. but they can't have that roll out week. one with this whole entire situation com. man and they know that they have to know. that cuz they scrapped it quickly after. that they scrapped it very quickly after. that and that's why it does feel as. though they they've had to have some. sort of progression between that dog.

[ __ ] and then where they are now because. they wouldn't just throw the Chain Gang. out without knowing like hey what the. product we have now is going to be quick. it's going to be much better you're. going to be able to tell it within a. little 10-second period but hopefully. that the Chain Gang is done forever I. still think we should line up old guys. so they can get uh obliterated by people. on the field their knees and stuff and I. I still think we should have a job for. the older folks with. the entire thing cuz some of those guys. 809 years old they they ain't got.

nothing literally they're just coming to. chain they're going they're going home. and they're trying to get back to doing. the change and the change served its. purpose in the NFL and in football as a. whole and we appreciate them but just. like everything robots are coming this. man seems like a robot has an answer for. everything oh yeah business strategy. inspiration advice football the general. manager for the North Carolina Tar Hill. is Michael lardi yeah. look at those shoes shim they're. shimmering love love awesome Felix.

Mutual lbo purple Yesterday by the way. appreciate it thank you wow you did see. the plum suit that was attacked by tyr I. loved it it who attacked it tyres. halberton it's his birthday today happy. oh actually his birthday is tomorrow. it's leap day I appreciate you clapping. for him because he does deserve it he's. a leap day baby so it's only four years. get cheated out of that weirdo so happy. birthday Tyrese there you go that guy. doesn't have as many birthdays as. everybody else kind of a bummer but uh.

happy birth Happy Birthday to the new. North Carolina Tar Hills you have a. brand new general manager head coach. operation in the football Department how. are you doing we're great we're doing. good you know we're just we have been a. dead period so we had a chance to get. the players in work out do all that. stuff so it's been great yeah we set up. our recruiting for 2006 which is. everybody's ahead of it and uh it's been. great you got to watch a lot of high. school tape seen some really cool high. school stadiums seen some bad High. School stadiums you know feel I mean.

Texas I got to tell you Texas High. School Football love oh man those. stadiums are incredible yeah you know we. need a little bit more of those in some. other cities but it's been great I think. the game will continue to do that in. other places and there's a lot of great. High School States obviously. Pennsylvania Ohio Florida Texas. California Georgia Louisiana I think has. some great South Carolina and I'm sure. there's other states that I missing. Montana's got some guys Montana's got. some guys a kid from Idaho the other day. it was great yeah it so you loving it. you loving the process I absolutely love.

it it's great you know everybody says. well how you dealing with it it's like. it's different than pro football in the. sense that you know you have to work. three boards you got 07 you got 28 you. got 26 you're dealing with that the. portal but it's a lot of fun and you. know it's the same thing I mean when I. worked at as a GM you know everybody. wanted more money everybody lied it's. the same two things that happen. everybody wants more money and everybody. lies so. let's talk about that process of you. being an NFL general manager you're back.

at the combine I know you just landed. thank you for making time will you be. able to stick around with us after the. break too sure okay sweet so you'll be. able to talk to us next hour we'll get a. little bit more Lombardi conville but. you come to the combine is it um Glory. Days feel thinking about the NFL stuff. or what are you here doing right now. specifically well there's so many people. here there's so many contacts that you. know from my time in the league that you. want to reconnect with because you're. they're going to have players too you. know in terms of whether what happens. with the portal so you want to be able. to really it's about the maintaining the. relationships you've had with these.

agents that I haven't had since I was. doing media so I want to reconnect with. them and everybody's here at this place. at one time I had a bunch of fundraisers. to go to this week for our North. Carolina uh folk and so I couldn't get. here until today but that that's that's. the best thing this is the best meeting. place for everybody I mean there's more. action happening at the hotels when I. worked in the league than I was actually. on the field okay so let's talk talk. about that a little bit more Matt Ru. said that the general manager for his.

team the Nebraska when he was with us. yesterday he said I'm here and he is. currently meeting with the agents and. stuff and it's the same agents for NFL. guys that there is for high school guys. pretty much you know and it's the same. it's it's it's very reminiscent of the. time they may have a guy that wants to. enter the portal who knows everybody's. talking hypothetical situations but you. have to have a relationship with the. agent to understand when you're talking. to him on the telephone what you're. dealing with and and a lot of these guys. I have from my time in the league but. there's a lot of new agents that you. don't know and you need to kind of.

maintain that relationship and see if. you can because you got to get a sense. of it it's easier to to to have a. conversation with somebody after you met. them we need you to get uh introduced to. Money Team Ed money to you B he's uh. Aaron's guy he was the guy at Joe Shane. hard knock's phone call that was on the. other side Ed it says on the captions. okay that is he young lad stopping lad. he's good beard good dude does good. business does good business I could tell. on that call Ed wasn't going to give Joe. a shot at another thing I could tell on.

that call you can hear by the tone yeah. me too guys also heard it to you KN okay. so so let's talk about the Hard Knocks. off season it is tweeted uh by Ari mirov. I do believe at mysports update he is a. grinder Ari mirov is an absolute grinder. whenever it comes to aggregating and. finding news per sports report uh Bill. bellich and UNC will be featured this. offseason uh for the Hard Knocks. offseason season okay so we love. what the Giants allowed us to see okay.

and I think all of us did we all chatted. about it there was a lot of things uh. learned because it was our first time. ever watching that entire process and. there's a lot of things said you guys. have it this year is that accurate you. guys got a great relationship with NFL. films it would make sense too with how a. college ball is becoming Pro bow at this. exact time I think there's a lot of. conversations going on right now about. that I think we've had a lot of offers. from people all over to have us come in. and look at our program and kind of do. the behind the scenes things I don't.

think anything's yet been official or. signed to it uh to make it happen Don't. Let saquan Go who would it be would it. be yeah don't don't do that would it be. you would it be you negotiating that or. who's making that decision no that would. be the university and and we got to make. you know when you're dealing with the. university and the brand that we have at. North Carolina which is incredible you. got to make sure that everything's done. right all the te's are crossed and. obviously bill has been talking to. different people they contacted all of. us here and and Bill's been sting it out. so so you're saying there's definitely a. conversation happening you guys in NFL.

films know each other very very very. very well I mean that's that's very well. document and it's a tremendous Place. agreed and so they do an incredible job. but it's I don't think it's official to. be where it's at the point where we. could say we're going to do it if if we. do do it the idea of doing it is to let. people examine what we're doing and see. people take a look at the 33rd team in. the NFL on how we're building this. program and what we're trying to. accomplish and I think it'll give an. accurate portrait tra I've often said if. you're going to do hard knocks you got. to let people know you know what you're.

doing because people are going to look. at you and people are going to judge you. and what you know and you've got to. really be able to teach a class it's a. good idea though recruits. watching parents watching too all yeah. we got like Mel has to teach a class on. how to scout we got to teach a class on. how this all happens and so that's what. that would be the intent and let people. know look you know there's not many. times that you can have the greatest. coach of all time take you into a. meeting yeah I agree and if we were able. to get access to your entire thing where.

you were building a Personnel Department. scouting Department Bill's doing his. thing you guys are going the high. schools recruiting how does that go. those conversations we'd all be very. intrigued by it but I also think the. college football um like either transfer. portal guys or High School guys or. parents would obviously watch that like. when you come on here and you know. you're an incredible good businessman. but when you come on here and you talk I. think whenever people the more they hear. you they more they're like I want to go. there I met some UNCC kids that were. carryovers from maybe the last roster or.

whatever and uh they were at a Monday. Night Raw I think in Charlotte I think. they were up there in Charlotte they. come the money a raw and I talked to him. and I said hey you're going to be. dealing with Michael Lombardi now Bill. bich obviously the greatest of all time. but you're going to be with Michael. Lombardi utilize him as a resource okay. like use him as a resource he's a person. that I use as a resource he has a wealth. of information on so many things so when. you're talking about becoming a man in. leaving college and being a better. person like your experiences are all. like a weapon as well I think personally.

for the right people that are looking. for that type of stuff I appreciate that. but that's our job is to take these kids. from being everybody thinks college. football's amateur it's no longer. amateur they're all getting paid some. form of compensation and the key is to. teach people how to become an no longer. an amateur to become a pro you know. that's the key when you wake up in the. NFL and your first year as a rookie you. have to learn how to be a pro and if you. don't know how to do that you get caught. behind yeah I think so and I think. that's why you guys have such a head. start like when bill came on and we. talked to him about going back to North.

Carolina and we're like you're going to. hate that aren't you and he's like we've. done all this before this is there it's. NFL you guys are treating it like an NFL. operation so it'd be a great Hard Knock. whoever gets it and whoever does it we. can't wait to watch hour two on the. other side live from the Indie combine. be a friend tell a friend something nice. [Music]. it's impossible to be at the top at both. of those essentially like.

it's another farting day orlovski. situation just took what do you mean. it's. unbelievable just talking I did not fart. it's two times now there this the. orlovski thing you guys being serious. right now or you messing with me listen. to this clip this is you just moments. ago it's impossible to be at the top at. both both of those essentially like.

it's you guys. definitely freaking. idiot we. swear no we swear we swear no one did. that. then what did you eat I haven't even ate. hey if I were you right now i' go grab. some good one my wife texted me she said.

oh my gosh mcafe show I'm dead I go PA I. promise you on everything I did not hard. who runs your Twitter account AB I do. what's this all about I would like to. know in that situation where your. butthole started talking what did I do I. can't even be serious with you man what. are you chucking a glass of milk eating. some fruit over there get you some. coffee get that butthole a little bit. more active I haven't ate I'm eating. yogurt I have a thousand text messages. right now people going oh my gosh I'm. like I just wanted to have like a quiet.

Tuesday I don't even know why we're. going to have another hour maybe run. that clip just yeah yeah on Loop we have. the video Shams let's let you judge here. it's impossible to be at the top at both. of those essentially like. it's I need to hear the context I want. to give our shut up like what J vote. it's a fart all day long Kirk you know. that has anybody voted no Dan I'll be. the captain of team know today we need. you to do a tiebreaking vote is that. okay sounds good to me it's impossible.

to be at the top at both of those. essentially like it's there's no doubt I. mean I like how he just kept on going. right there when he was talking he. didn't even break stride as that thing. came out he wasn't got the buggy went to. the store grabbed some dude wipes to. wipe those ass cheeks just like I assume. you do is wable you have to go dry wet. dry toilet paper white toilet paper if. not you're really risking the rest of. the day having the swamp ass you know. Dan orlovski man he got to accept that. man he got to wear that with a pride one.

thing that really bothers me when people. do not take credit for it you know if. somebody says oh that was you that. farted I get upset when it wasn't me I'm. like no when have I ever not claimed it. when it was mine you should claim it at. all those airports people are traveling. today looking up at ESPN D RI farts. what's wrong with this guy the close. caption the following program is a. collection of students talking about. happening in the sports world it is. meant to be comedic informative the. opinions expressed on this show do not.

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tackler for the Green Bay Packers. you damn it be a friend tell a friend. something nice could change their. [Applause]. [Music]. life hello beautiful people and welcome. back to Lucas Oil Stadium in the. beautiful city of Indianapolis Indiana. the forever home of the combine which we. are at our two Starts. Now. combine it is a magical time for the NFL.

for our city of Indianapolis and for. stories to Blossom or. end in the NFL and in the football world. as a whole I'm not here alone no no we. got a great group of dudes live from the. balcony the lobby The Concourse here at. Lucas Oil Stadium absolutely magnificent. setup all week we can't thank everybody. enough for being a part of this from. Craig and Isaac uh from the CIB of. Indianapolis the city Improvement board. who are the people that work directly.

with the NFL shout out to McCarthy Carly. Jeff you know had some obstacles that. were certainly threat you know there was. a lot of that from all parties made some. magic happen and then the entire crew. that set everything up and I know we've. been shouting out Scott and everything. like that but whenever you talk about. everybody that went into making this. happen we can't thank you all enough I. think it's been a magical few days it's. been fun to be able to catch up with all. old teammates and friends and old. coaches and meet new people that. obviously I've been a fan of wink marale.

was in here yesterday cuz he was. watching his boys and then I got the. chance to meet D coach EP Esposito and. the entire crew there it was like nice. to meet you guys nice to meet you guys. people I'd heard of but hadn't got a. chance to really meet in person I've. done it here so I'm very thankful that. we've been here for the past three days. and uh it's been a beautiful kickoff to. the offseason the toic table looks a. little different today okay and please. send your teas and peas to Tai Schmid. who has missed two days in I wonder if. the Iowa guy has forgotten a work ethic. uh it's at Boston Conor and it's mad Mel.

Kyper uh mad Mel I know you have high. high praise for Michael Lombardi joining. us the general manager of the UNCC. tarhill football team without a doubt. one of the few guys who you know has. always shown me a great deal of respect. I obviously respect him he is my GM I. feel like he kind of got blackballed you. know towards the end of his career in. the NFL this guy's the goat okay so if. you know you're in an NFL building and. you have any ill will or malice towards. this guy uh you kiss my ass as well so. that's kind of how I feel about my party. oh yeah without a doubt okay I I went to.

the bathroom and uh came back mad Mel. thank you for that uh kind of layout of. it all and I would like to Echo that. sentiment you know I didn't know that. that was potentially needed to be said. but we we do say that hey lombo we love. you buddy appreciate I love you guys too. I really appreciate everything you've. done for me it's been a blessing really. now you help us out let me tell you. Lambo about how we truly feel about you. okay doing a Daily Show yeah 3 hours. sometimes we go four sometimes we go 2.

and 1/2 sometimes we go 5 okay so it's. like whenever you do that lucky to do it. thankful to do it okay but there's some. days where man we should not be taking. anybody's time like nobody should spend. their time with us today so we try our. best to like show respect for people who. show their attention to us or enjoy. their day alongside of us I we try our. best and there's some days where it's. just like there's not this is crap like. we cannot this is not good and. everybody's first thought is lombo and.

what you have done for our program and. you don't even know this I assume on. days where there is real anxiety for me. maybe 15 minutes not a lot of news when. like 15 minutes before the show starts. and in my head and body having real. anxiety like today the day where people. realize that they need to stop watching. this program we send a text or a call to. you and you have never said no to us and. anytime you come on anything we ask you. about could be business could be quotes. from the past could be about war.

strategy could be about football could. be about anything you have like a. phenomenal and you're an hour eater that. is awesome hey we got an hour eater In. Lombardi biggest compliment you could. pay to someone from. us from us so that is how we feel about. you we absolutely love you like you need. know appreciate that that's very nice of. you and I appreciate being on this show. cuz it really helped you know my career. it sold me sold books which I really. appreciate you know you know how that. goes when you're in the book business. but yeah it's been tremendous I mean I.

love doing this I really do I know Chuck. wanted to go back but I know there's. part of Chuck that still likes this and. still likes doing this yeah Chuck's not. going to be able to stop by I don't. think in his new no no one over there. you enter the cone of silence when you. go in there yes I understand that uh one. half of the hammer Cowboys tone digs is. here and obviously Lomo knows everything. about the combine what do people need to. know about what happened yesterday at. the combine and what happening today at. the G yeah yesterday there was a few. guys a handful of guys who who really. stood out Shamar Stewart being the the.

first one being you know 65 270 jumped. 40 in Broad 10 11 ran the 46 basically. the the same numbers as miles Garrett. when he came out actually there's only. there's only four guys in the history of. the combine who weighed more than 260. and jumped 40 inches it was Mario. Williams Miles Garrett Shamar Stewart. yesterday and also Landon Jackson. yesterday who also is above two 60 and. did the 40in ver yesterday but I wanted. to ask lombo a question after that off. of that so Shamar Stewart has all those.

numbers has the 10 R grade the RAS grade. or. whatever uh but he only had four and a. half sacks in his college career how do. you like as a GM do you go back do you. obviously have to go back and be like. all right why did that happen or how do. you evaluate someone who is just an. athletic freak but didn't necessarily. have the production he should have had. to match that he's a great player but he. not that's the hardest thing to do is. because it you have to take some of. these positions that everybody thinks. are all athletic positions and break. them down into into instinctive.

positions right to rush the passer is in. instinctive position you can't run past. the guy you've got to know when to. transfer speed to power you've got to be. able to understand how to set up the. tackle you've got to play smart I I was. on the phone with uh with with a a. legendary NFL coach and he was talking. about almost said the name there they. did and he was talking to me about tuna. uh it was he was got I I I don't I. didn't want a name drop but it was on. the phone with parcel's it was just the. greatest baby man we know you lbo the.

the greatest phone call you can get is. when you see Bill parcel's calls you. it's the greatest so because you're. going to learn something you're going to. learn something and for me it just makes. it makes me so happy so he was talking. to me about jumbo Elliott and how he. became a left tackle and they drafted. him everybody said was a right tackle so. he went to Lawrence Taylor and said hey. Lawrence you know I'm going to put jumbo. over at left tackle you tell me if this. guy can play first day goes by Lawrence. doesn't say a word second day goes by.

Lawrence grabs him and says he's the. real deal he's tough he's got a nasty. disposition he's got great balance all. those things and he's smart and you. can't beat him twice key word you can't. beat him twice he knows how to set up. his Rush he knows how to handle somebody. and there's instinctive positions in. football the reason I tell that story is. because there's instinctive and so when. you see these guys with great athletes. or great 10 times you want to say oh we. can make them into something but there's. an element of instincts that go into. this right it's like a don't tell me.

about a receiver that can run fast and. hasn't had any production yeah they. they've got to come together right you. can make all the excuses in the world. well he didn't get the ball he didn't no. receivers look at AJ Brown didn't run. great look at De Debo Samuel didn't run. great right but they're great players. okay so on that note about running great. there is seemingly and we got the. secondary here uh today there is C. positions that if they run a certain. time though it's over right like corner. is one of them you can't be a 4 six. Corner four five Corner well it depends.

on your arm length if you're a 44 five. Corner you're a four five corner and. you've got arm length that arm length is. going to make up for that little bit of. difference of lack of speed you have how. good are you at the line of scrimmage. are you a second 20 guy or are you a. first 20 guy can you burst for the first. 20 or you losing speed as you're running. and I think more than any position. corner is instinctive you've got to be. able to jump off a one foot at a corner. you've got to be in Balance to jump to. make the play the ball in the air and. you've got to have the sense to redirect. we've seen a lot of Corners that run 455.

that play a long time in the in the in. the NFL because they're instinctive they. understand they can read the route they. know when to break and anticipate things. so yeah I think to me you just can't go. like you don't think there's like a. disqualifier in the 40 for a corner. position even in the modern day that. somebody said they're going to run Bond. of Texas said he might run a 419 I've. never seen that before in my life yeah. I've never seen it before but maybe he. can do it with the training and all that. but I do think the ball in the air okay. you got to play the ball in the air no.

matter how fast you are you've got to be. in Balance when the ball's in the air. it's like watching the NBA players if. they can't shoot off a one foot they. can't play if they can't rebound off a. one leg they can't play and so it's a. little bit like defensive backs you got. to see their balance tone tell me about. the tire tell us about the tight ends. that are performing uh today and the. tight ends in this particular draft. class because I think this is a good. question for lombo Mad Mell about you. know the importance of that position in. like we saw what Brock Bowers did last. year why aren't any of these you know.

being chatted about is it because Abdul. and Travis are so different yeah so they. they're talking about the tight end. class being one of the the deepest you. know tight end class in a long long time. obviously Tyler Warren Coulson leveland. out out of Penn State Michigan they're. not going to do anything today a Royo. out of Miami he's not going to do. anything from tight end running back D. tackle off ball linebacker last year. only two of those guys went in the first. round I'm talking 10 guys in the first. round do you think that's a a product of. the current NFL coming back to you know. you know Smashmouth pound like those. guys are more those positions are coming.

back or do you think that just hey these. there's a lot of there's the people in. those positions this year are just. better than the last year's I think. there's a Resurgence back to the tight. end I do I think there has to be because. you can't live in shotgun on Fourth and. inches and try to hand the ball off. right Ag and you got your team has no. toughness if you can't run the football. and you got to have tight ends that. tight ends to me have always been the. night in the chess board they do so many. different things you need them. and so I I like for when you build like. who's the queen yeah well the Queen's.

the quarterback right you know well. who's the king well does MO coaching GM. exactly that's cuz they're the last one. to fall yeah yeah it's probably coach GM. yeah you know Checkers we were we were. doing I've been doing an exercise so we. have our Board of our 26 class of of all. of them and then who are the top 30. players on your board we have 225 names. on our board who are the top 30 offense. who are the top 30 defense and it forces. you to say how do you want to build this. team how do you want to build North. Carolina's team if we could get these 30.

players this is would be great and. there's it's a good tight end there's a. lot of good tight ends in America as. there are because the tight end position. is evolving nobody they're not all. playing basketball now and so it gives. you so much versatility because the. object of football is to substitute. without substituting that drives people. crazy so when you can have a tight end. like grank who can go out and catch a. ball at receiver and then you have. another tight end who can line up on the. line I mean Tony Gonzalez was really. good but when he had Jason dun as the.

blocker with Tony Gonzalez as the move. guy they became a dynamic offense in. Kansas City with Trent green and so you. need those kind of guys and the tight. ends give you that versatility which. makes you so much better you know Brock. Bowers is great now if the Raiders had. another blocking tight end to go with. them now how do you match up to that so. now they're really in 12 but they're. really in 11 cuz Bowers becomes a. nightmare problem for the slot receiver. see you need to be in nickel but you're. in 12 but you're in 12 but they can. block and they can run strong side and. they can run weak side see everybody.

says they lineup want these receivers. they can't block and play them as a. third receiver well they can't block. anybody the defense knows to not run the. ball weak sides so they know they got to. only run the ball One Way well they took. May the year before that so I I assume. Chip is going to do something like that. he's got a great Advantage they work. perfectly together and when you have. that combination like the Steelers have. Fri M right they have he's one of the. few on the line wise that can threaten. the scam so now if had another motion. guy to go along with the way Arthur. Smith calls def offenses and the way.

they run assuming they get a quarterback. and all those things they've got you. know now you've got an offense that can. substitute without substitute you. mentioned some goats there Tony Gonzalez. obviously Thursday Night Football we see. him now he has highlights Galore and. changed the game from the tight end. position congrats to him on everything. uh in its entirety then he mentioned. obviously Travis you didn't mention. Travis we'll talk about Travis Kelce to. your point about blocking Travis Kelce. uh felt obligated to get better blocking. as he got older because he thought he. could be an asset to the offense in. different fashion there was a couple.

big- time touchdowns that Patrick. Mahomes scored where Travis Kel's lead. blocking and like actually up in there I. feel like he thinks that's a big deal. you mentioned groon though can you talk. about how groon was just like he was a. tackle and he also was a wide receiver. watching him he he was I mean he didn't. get to play as long obviously with. injuries but whenever you're that big. strong athletic and great at football I. assume injuries are going to follow you. like that is going to that that's how. your career was going to go and I think. he probably knew that especially going. in or whatever and maybe he didn't maybe. he thought he could defy it but just.

like law of averages with the amount of. hits he took with how big he was and how. he played football was like this isn't. going to be a 1520 but it is going to be. a like and he was he was special man he. really was he tilts the field in his. favor it's you guys are probably too. young to remember Mark Bavaro Bavaro had. a short career because of a knee injur. brao was one of the most talented. players I've ever seen he could dominate. the end of the line he could Block. Lawrence Taylor R and then he could go. down the seam and catch the ball I mean. he was remarkable and and grank is a lot.

like Bavaro was because he could play at. the end of the line but he could also. run receiver routes now grank wasn't you. had you had uh Dallas Dallas another guy. I thought Dall everything about Dallas. Clark Iowa. do his toughness his juice his. competitive spear everything his. quickness was so good right where gr. grank was more of an over route outcut. guy it was a long it was deep routes for. grank not that he couldn't catch shorter. routes but Clark was really good at. winning third down routes grank was good.

at winning down the field routes and it. was hard to cover cuz again to quote the. great Bill parcel's even when he was. covered he was open yeah yeah and. speaking of that man um che cheese bring. it in Ring of Honor. member there go boom there he is wow. look at that Dallas Clark that looks. great yeah he's a ring of horor congrat. congratulations is a quarterback sweet. the slow Zuma yeah that's that's.

quarterback sweet and Dallas obviously. earned that with his years of great. football both at Iowa where he was a t. linebacker I believe for a bit and then. we are right behind that particular. camera right there but the tight end. position is a beautiful one if you have. a great one and pton Manning obviously. with Dallas did magical things and then. but you had you had Marcus Pard too who. was could play on the line why Pard was. before me so I never got a chance to. watch him work but you're % right the th. position is beautiful but you had Kobe. Fleer and then what's name Dwayne Allen. Dwayne Allen Dwayne Allen was a tackle.

right he but he won another Super Bowl. with us in New England you know I mean. cuz he could line up and play on the. line dude when I say great Dwayne Allen. was I enjoyed Dwayne Allen same they. were they same draft class yeah third. and fourth round I think or uh one out. of Clemson one out of Stanford Kobe. drafted before Dwayne and then Dwayne. got there and he was just like a grown. man he would put his mits on it was just. like and that's it right you ever get. any locker room I was going to say. didn't him and Pat anger have a little. tussle in the locker room I don't know. what you're talking about but naked.

brawl I thought that might have once or. twice Pat anger put an arm on you know. that is wasn't an arm he. says no he wasn't might have but it was. somebody yeah it was Dwayne's awesome. Kobe Fleer though was very much like a. go get I'm excited to see what these. guys do Tyler Warren was the pen State. offense as a whole Conor has a question. for you Lambo so to one of the things. tone said the depth of some of the. position positions in in the draft tight. end D tackle there's a few others does. that hurt some of the you know middle to.

top guys that are you know maybe not. like a Mason Graham who everyone has in. the top five but some of those guys that. might be you know a little higher in the. D tackle draft but because there is so. much depth that teams might wait to take. him just because they're not nervous and. then uh sheer said this on Wednesday. what what does it mean and I forget Pat. asked someone this yesterday as well but. what does it mean when the 10 pick is. very similar to the 35th pick when. you're evaluating guys well so you grade.

every player and every player gets. assigned a grade and what what Adam is. saying there is there's only 10 players. who are Elite and everybody else is is. for lack of a better turn in a in a. cluster of players and the reason you. trade down in a draft isn't because you. just want to trade down you don't have. an you have this impulse is because. you're trading to a cluster you know who. you're going to get but you're trading. to a cluster of grades that are all the. same so if you sit there and you don't.

get one of those 10 and you want to pick. a defensive tackle and say you're. picking 11th and I'm making this up and. somebody offers you a chance to go to 23. and you still have five tackles to move. down and they're all the same grade then. you make that trade and so it's really. just about the grades reflective of the. board we get so Mel does this all the. time which is very annoying by the way I. want to say this I'm sure he's going to. have a question for you every very. annoying when all we talk about is this. guy's a first rounder this guy's a first. rounder this guy's more of a third.

rounder that that's really meaningless. because the verbage has to be attached. to the player what is the player going. to do and so what Adam's saying by. there's only 10 guys that some teams. think are immediate starters the rest. are potential starters so when you put. it in that category you know Mel will. get mad because you take a potential. starter at 11 and you should have taken. them at 28 but they're still saw. potential starters mhm you have anything. to say for yourself yeah I mean.

sometimes you know these teams are going. to be they're going to reach you know. I'm going to have something to say about. it and that's why after the draft you. know Hey listen you may think you had a. a great draft in my in my eyes you know. I'm going to slap a c minus on you cuz. cuz I got to see you know I got to see. the proof and the pudding lumbo I did. want to ask you about something though. something that kind of drives me nuts um. and it's been happening you know more so. in years past guys kind of just opting. out to do the on on the field stuff yeah. you know and we had dick cerio on the. other day and he basically said listen. you can't put too much stock in the on.

the field stuff anyway it's not like a. guy going to go out there and he's going. to be a fifth rounder he's going to go. through the drills and then boom he's a. he's a second rounder he's a first. rounder but do you think this is a trend. that we're going to see more so in the. next couple of years where this is. basically going to turn into interviews. and medical and we're going to have more. of these guys say Hey listen my tape's. out there you can watch what I did in. college I'm not going to do the on the. field stuff and as a GM how much does. that affect kind of your evaluation of a. player well I you know it's still a game. of football so you still have to watch. him play and I think that's the most.

important aspect I mean we in height in. college recruiting we don't have the. combine so we have to use basketball we. have to use track and field we have to. use other sports to kind of use as a. reference to check their athleticism and. to truly test how fast they are because. it's hard to see based on the level of. comp if they're really fast but I mean. this trend has been going on for a long. time guys opting out and we get it and. the Agents do a good job of of coming. you come to the campus you work the guy. out I've often said to me and this would. have to be collectively bargained is if.

you don't work out at the combine and. then you have to come back to Indie and. then you have to take another drug test. to make sure that everything's clear. because what you don't want to see is. any the guy doesn't work out at the. combine he doesn't test positive for for. enhancement drugs he goes home for five. weeks he gets gets that going and you. can't test them again until June and now. all of a sudden you've been duped if and. I'm sure I didn't even think about that. if you're Mel if you're Mel Mel's. biggest mistakes and my biggest mistakes.

have been when when guys have gotten. drafted when the word steroids probably. was the reason why they got drafted I. don't know if nowadays it's as much but. there's certainly science that people. have we had an era I mean ion bandri I. got sent I got sent to the library by. coach Walsh to do a report on steroids. cuz we had no idea what steroids were. what year is this about 1985 there was a. defensive tackle from Boston College I. won't mention his name sure we can. figure it out 1985.

defensive see now this a lot more the. people suspected for like you know that. he may be enhanced sure but we didn't. even know what that word was we didn't. even understand it you know we had no. idea so I had to go I literally wrote a. book report on on on and I can still. remember writing it all the drugs I mean. it was probably the biggest book repor I. was just out of college I I didn't do. anything like that in college my whole. career so I was pretty proud of it but. you know we got you get duped on it you. get duped on it you just you don't know. what was that.

um that documentary in uh IUS Icarus. have you ever seen Icarus yeah I have. I've watched that it you know that. Russian doctor scientist piss guy was. I'll give you another one there's a. school there's a school and I'm not. going to mention the school's name that. that was reproducing NFL players for a. very small school at a high rate right. and you as an executive in the league. and all of a sudden this small school in. a big state is producing a lot of guys. you're saying wait a minute something's.

going on in a gym there somewhere right. I mean you that's what you get paid to. do that's hilarious right you you. started doing descriptors in a very. small school started producing in a. small school in a big state starts. produc I thought I didn't know how many. more you were going to get into there so. I just guessed what school that was we. don't hear any of that really much. anymore the performance enhancing stuff. that we hear about usually is ader all. always that cuz the NFL never says what. it is though so players are always the. ones that have to self- admit that's why. the guys who say like I got Horny Go.

weed at the gas station and I think it. was tampered I didn't know that so I'm. out for 4 weeks there's guys that give. like used to at least give those types. of excuses then there's people that have. tainted supplements I took a supplement. but it wasn't on the uh the bottle which. is real somehow supplements do not can. just omit some things because they're. not I don't think they're FDA regulated. so it's just like and the NFL's policy. is you know what you're putting in your. body it's like sometimes sometimes you. don't so that excuse has one that has.

garnered some uh attention over the. years but nowadays we don't really hear. about it much right I I don't I don't. think we hear about it much anymore no I. think and I think a lot of guys know. that there's the European element you. can go to Europe and some of these drugs. that are not FDA approved so you're. saying yeah wait wait a minute it's. still happening yeah why I think look it. look if the what we're what's at stake. and I don't think I'm not accusing. anybody of wrongdoing what's at stake is. a lot of money I mean this cap is at. what 275. million right it's a huge that's a huge.

investment you have to make in your body. and and you know you got to do that. ladies and gentlemen we have some. breaking news out of Los Angeles. California Matthew Stafford who met with. the Rams this morning and was. potentially going to field offers from. other squads cuz he only has 4 million. guaranteed left on his contract next. year allegedly was asking for good. amount of money he's staying with the. Los Angeles Rams wow it was a good. meeting this morning McVey and Matthew.

Stafford we assume Les need as well met. with Matthew this morning in their. facility who knows what was discussed. who knows what the deal will be at this. exact moment but what appears to be a. statement of yep from the Los Angeles. Rams is Matthew Stafford staying in La. uh rap is reporting that he ends up. taking less and he would have gotten. elsewhere to stay with the r okay so we. thought that was certainly going to be. something that happens uh Hometown.

discounts a real thing especially at. this stage of Life his family has their. friend group he already has everything. kind of sorted his resume is already in. place so to pick up uproot and uproot. and head elsewhere was going to cost. some money I assume the Rams knew that. which might be why they offered him a. low deal to begin with they offer them a. low deal and say all right if you want. to go see somewhere else and then they. find out what the Market is and then. they're able to make what is considered. a fair deal to keep them around is that. how you view it yeah I think what they. what they did was they said look we.

don't agree why don't you go see what. your Market is and come back to us and. literally because we're not in free. agency he had to come back to him yeah. right and so this wasn't the Joe shame. where Joe had you know really was in. free agency so you know then he comes. back and now all of a sudden do you move. do I take 10 million less to stay here. and I have to move and by time you add. everything up and I and I think from the. Rams point of view is it gave them time. to say okay where where do we get our. next quarterback from is it ston Bennett. is it somebody else you know where do we. go from here and I think look they're.

they got the ball on the what the 13. yard line they were the only game that. Eagles yeah the only tough playoff game. let's be clear the only tough playoff. game against the Eagles had was that. game and if they don't blow two. protections you know where they don't. block jayen Carter for some reason and. some why you know he's throwing the ball. in the end zone and that guy special he. just threw to there puka and obviously. Cooper is going to be gone but joh McVey. we assume in his offense is going to be. able to move the rock you know the. offense too already which is another. added thing about the money going.

elsewhere new offense new system new. home New Life new everything new. question marks probably new gripes about. things that are happening in that. building that's a lot of new new new new. new so in his eyes he thought it was. going to have to be very very expensive. and I think he thinks he should get paid. because of how he's been playing. football and absolutely go ahead and do. that so I'll be excited to hear and he. stayed healthy which is key right I mean. this has been the key for Matthews to. stay healthy durable right durable I. mean nobody throws the ball better than. he does he still can throw the hell out. of the ball and the teams that were.

interested in him need a quarterback. okay so now that's the Domino that falls. Los Angeles Rams are sticking with. Matthew Stafford Matthew Stafford is off. the board now we got the Raiders the. Giants the Steelers we got put the draft. board up um we got the number one. overall team with the Titans who who is. their quarterback going to be uh you got. the number three overall pick with the. Giants who's their quarterback going to. be you got the number two overall pick. pick with the Browns they're going to. draft a Young quarterback could draft a. Young quarterback Titans could draft a.

Young quarterback it would make sense. Giants would draft a Young quarterback. would make sense Patriots locked in Jags. locked in Raiders could draft a Young. quarterback Jets could draft Young. quarterback so now is everybody's and. you go all the way through there you the. Saints Derek Car last year of his could. if they were to they allegedly met with. Cam Ward Niners good C is good Dolphins. good Colts could draft young quarter I. mean there is a lot of teams that could. draft a quarterback now that Matthew.

Stafford is staying with the Rams if he. would have want any of those teams. obviously that changes the math a little. bit but a lot of teams need quarterback. how do you view that that's the position. think Sam darnold I'm pretty happy okay. you know I think Sam darnold's. marketability just went up a little bit. more even though I'm sure he has a lot. of teams after him because who else is. who else are the giant who else are you. going to call who else is out there that. you feel like can at least you can watch. a tape say this guy did a hell of a job. you know you can say well his jet tape. wasn't good but that was a lifetime ago. right and speaking of jet tape not good.

Aaron Rogers we don't know what he's. going to be doing is he retiring is he. coming back and playing our. source have told us that he's out of the. country you know and we'll be on I. believe the program next week so I. assume we'll learn a little bit more. there but he's potentially in the market. as well currently Kirk Cousins. potentially in the market yet again you. know there is a chance that he is going. to be out there so a lot of these. veteran quarterbacks I her cousins will. be interesting because he's going to get. paid by the Falcons so he's a little bit. like the Russell Wilson situation so. that he's going to be an economic value.

for a team that thinks he still has. something left in him all right Lomo. we're going to slide you a little bit to. your right okay joining us now ladies. and. gentlemen is a man who is a friend of. the program a sand bagging. golfer and absolute gentlemen a lad of. the lads ladies and gentlemen general. manager of the Buffalo Beals Brandon. Bean.

andate do you know lombo. Bean how you doing good to see you good. to see you good how are you Mr ban how. are we good to see you good work Bruce. really good work you be right here. really good work all week. Bruce Bruce Bruce that baby Bruce. oh that was from the truck had a baby. baby truck baby truck way go Bruce way. to pitch in there oh no can we get this. the more you can do right yeah well I I.

brought it over there for him make me. look good I know it's tough no no no it. isn't you're a handsome lad young. looking lad not as young as that jaguars. GM did you see that GL Jimmy coldstones. yeah he's 22 he Jimmy glad uh Tommy. Gladstone yeah yeah exactly he listen he. could be a guy we have no idea so let's. lead into that the general manager world. is interesting obviously you've been a. part of it and now now you are in the. middle of it at the very highest level. with the Buffalo Bills and you have. officially drafted and developed uh NFL.

MVP okay. congratulations congrats to him how much. of this combine this event is attributed. to whether or not you're a good general. manager is this like the ultimate test. for a general manager in your eyes and. how do you view this kind of event in. looking at next season I think it's just. a small piece I mean the number one. thing here is truly the medical you know. that's that's why this all started but. for me the most important thing are the. interviews that we get to do at night. just it's the first chance to kind of. get to know the guys that uh behind the. helmet and and who they are how they.

tick we've obviously done a lot of. background you know we'll be we'll be. calling Mike a lot to ask him about his. guys real soon they're good right Mike. aren't they all the guys but but that's. that's part of it you're trying to dot. the eyes cross the te's and then from. here obviously the guys that are working. out you kind of getting that first basis. of 40s jumps all that stuff and then. we're we're lining out our Pro days at. workouts and then the 30 visits so it's. just it's one piece uh the medical thing. is obviously huge you hear these stories.

of whether this guy's going to have to. have a surgery or you know whatever. which can affect their draft status yeah. and the medical is interesting do all of. them have to do medical or is it. something that is is medical like the. only feels like nobody skips out on the. medical right or am I wrong in that in. general I think there's been one or two. but in general they at least do that. which is which is important if if you're. going to come here and not do the. medical then probably should didn't show. up well if you're going to pay somebody. millions of dollars you should at least. know that what you're paying for is you. know operable so let's talk about that. Abdul Carter who's some people are.

saying generational Talent he on like a. Friday or I don't forget today maybe. Tuesday maybe it was one whatever the. case this guy's going to need surgery on. his right foot or his foot going to need. a bol in there eight weeks or he can. power through and showcase that he's. tough enough but it it came across like. medical has flagged him then the next. day it was like actually he's good to go. is that. as much as like one team flagging. another team not or how does that. normally go do you all get individual.

reads on people and scores on people. when it comes to the medical how does. that work from behind the scenes yeah so. there's a cimer of the best docs. Physicians across our country all here. and so it may be one physician from a. team it may not be the Buffalo Bills it. may be another one that Flags it these. guys all look at it they talk about it. and they make recommendations to the. player you know himself then the agent. may get involved the agent may have. connections to a certain position send. them out there's going to be second on a. guy like that especially you're talking.

about a guy that's going to be you know. potentially drafted at the top there's. going to be a lot of opinions on it so I. personally don't have anything from our. physician yet on it but at some point. yeah you guys are in the coming weeks. yeah I mean with AB do I'm just saying. in general this happens this this you. guys straighten up to. one no I was saying maybe it's really. medically bad and and he should probably. fall to 30 yeah. you're yeah because there is a little. bit of that gamesman I'm not saying you.

guys would do it no we' never but at. this point there is gamesmanship with. like players and stuff right I mean that. happens we saw that with uh CJ stad. remember there was like a leaked one. portion of a test that is just like one. of like 10 scores found a negative one. leaked it this guy's a [ __ ] like. there and then it turns out obviously. he's not he goes on to do what he did. his rookie year but there seems like. there is stories that kind of get out. there how do you kind of Dodge duck dip. dive and Dodge to that and do you all. just understand that it's happening you.

understand it's happening but you've got. to make sure you have the people that. you trust to make those decisions and if. it's medical you're counting on your. Physicians and they understand you know. how important is especially when you're. talking about drafting a guy as high as. Abdul Carter in this case and maybe you. know there's some guys that we may have. a third round great on and our doc may. say hey I think this is a one contract. player like he's got bad knee arthritis. I think he can make it 3 or 4 years we. may say well we're not going to take him. in the third but if he fell to the fifth.

or the sixth what's the odds of a fifth. sixth rounder two contracts to to make. it to the second contract so at some. point take a swing and there's been many. of stories of guys that have failed. their physical and they've played into. multiple contracts so uh at some point. it's worth the risk yeah I could imagine. I appreciate the Gathering of the. information and you also telling us all. this information now let's talk about. your team right now you got an NFL MVP. bro I know that's not the ultimate goal. no it's not but as a GM as an evaluator. as a scouter you pick this guy we saw.

what he was his rookie year but you're. betting on not only the player but the. human and the competitor and everything. that Josh Allen is and then from one. year to the next we watch him just. become the Prototype of what people were. looking for that would be a cool moment. for you whenever Josh won the MVP. legitimately because you felt like a. Believer I assume yeah yeah I mean it's. obviously he's he had a non-traditional. Journey Junior College uh emailing all. these coaches to get a scholarship gets. one offer at Wyoming and then we know. all the people that were questioning you. know could he play quarterback at the.

NFL and you know he he drafted where. he's drafted he was criticized we were. criticized for doing it so but he never. wavered you know he took the criticism. and you know he's he's always had that. chip and just doing our research this. young man you know he had his chip you. know way before he people were giving. him reasons to have a chip and and he's. got a chip now as as excited as he was. and honor to to win the MVP he knows and. we know the ultimate goal is to bring a. championship to Buffalo and and so that. didn't remove any chip winning the MVP.

yeah he works his ass off you know I I. think it's pretty obvious that he works. his tail off because development from. one year to the next is obviously. spectacular and special Lambo you got. any questions for bean well I mean I. think to me that his ability to be. accurate Josh everybody questioned. whether that could happen I mean having. coach work for coach Walsh that was like. could he ever do that because his arm. and all that Talent was was amazing and. credit him and your organization for. believing that he could do cuz that's. usually something that doesn't happen. but my question to you would be you know.

you're like a lot of teams that have. been so close that kind of have to break. through the threshold you know when you. watched the Super Bowl what was your. reaction to What do we have to do to. break through the threshold yeah I mean. ultimately I don't think you want to. overreact naturally that game played out. the way it did Philly you know scored. early and got a defensive touchdown and. really allowed that Philly pass rush to. pin their ears back if that stays a one. store a one- score game longer maybe. they're able to stay in it but Philly.

you know you go back to how did Tampa. Bay beat them you know during the co. year it was the same thing their dline. got you know got after them and so you. know Shawn and I both believe in. building up front and you know the. whether it's the o line and the dline. obviously got to have a quarterback so. that's probably where you know we you. know we could always look to improve and. and we've tried and listen i' I've got. to do a better job there as well Mak. sure that I give us the weapons that we. need hard hard to pick where he picks. and stay good you know it's just the the.

systems rigged against them you know and. and when you have good players your. systems rigged you got to have cap. problems now belich had a terrible. drafting record remember that's what. everybody said you're picking at like 30. and right now they're saying systems. rigged right now they're saying 10 to 35. is all basically the same it's just hard. you're not going to find an elite three. technique at 31 I mean 42 probably not. going to. I. mean a hard thing to do especially when. you're trying to get the off I mean Howe. sitting there and he got a defensive.

three technique just dropped in his lap. right I mean you know just didn't miss. it you had that right Mel without a. doubt you know I say hey best player on. my board you know you'd be an idiot not. to take him and somehow you know the. Eagles slide up and uh and get him. Brandon I did want to ask you a question. though now listen this happened last. year and I wonder if your philosophy has. changed at all obviously you guys trade. with the Chiefs you know and they end up. getting Xavier worthy um too's point he. was one of those. guys at that time for was there scored.

in the AFC title game he did now and and. everyone obviously you Conor is a. Patriots fan as you know I just thought. I mention. exactly you know fans and people on. Twitter are going to you know take pot. shots at you and [ __ ] on you and say hey. what what are we doing we can't beat the. Chiefs and and we're you know trading. with him and letting them get another. guy they got another guy who maybe we. could have used do do you take any stock. into that I mean do are you thinking at. all on draft night hey we we can't you. know these guys are calling we can't. trade with them because they're a team.

that we're going to see down the road in. the playoffs does last year does that. put a sour taste in your mouth at all or. is that something where it's like hey. guess what guy on Twitter uh go [ __ ]. yourself okay I'm the GM of this team. and I know what I need to do to kind of. put us in a position to win a Super Bowl. yeah I mean to me you always what your. first thing is what is the best decision. for the Buffalo Bills and you can't. worry you don't have their draft board. they're not calling you. and you understand anytime you tra you. trade out of a pick that they could take. you know the highest player on your. board the second like how far do you.

want to go back and so we just felt like. you know we moved back and then we moved. back again but we acquired a third round. pick out of that and we did not have one. so we got a defensive tackle and Dwayne. Carter that played a lot of meaningful. snaps people look at it as Keon they. want to make a battle between Keon and. Xavier and what I would say is it's okay. if both players turn out to be good. players in the NFL and one player can. fit one team better the other one can. fit their you know their system better. it's we're one year in I don't think you. can ever decide whether a player is.

going to the Hall of Fame after one. season or that he stinks and and Z you. know all the you know all the glory to. to Xavier worthy he did a nice job year. one we like Keon Coleman as well and. we're excited to get him where we did. and time will tell if I'm an idiot or. not there's other reasons I'm an idiot. but uh sandbag on the golf course is. that why you think that's a reason why. well I was going to say you kind of. stuck it up their ass with Shakir anyway. so it's like hey guess what this guy's. pretty good hey congrats on the new deal. apprciate that okay all right so. obviously over the last couple Seasons. we've seen him come into oh who is this.

guy to oh this is a guy and obviously. you think the same thing you paid him. congrats on getting a deal done yeah no. excited to get khil he's one of those. guys that has become more of a household. name year three but found him in the. fifth round out of Boise a couple of. seasons ago and late in his rookie year. Josh and him really started forming a. rapport and then he actually led us his. rookie year in receiving in the. postseason that year and then we come. into year two uh for him we we still had. Gabe we had Steph and you know I thought. we had a real good Trio with those guys.

but we had a lot of confidence and Gabe. got paid we were you know we're happy. for Gabe you don't want to lose them and. we made the decision we did with Steph. but a lot of that was the confidence. that we had in khil and the guys that. that we were going to bring on board and. he did not do anything but give us more. confidence and we're excited to you know. to be able to extend him through 29. fifth rounder to signing that big deal. congratulations khil Shakir legit that's. a big deal tying it back to the combine. great hosting thank you um what did he. show you said fifth round you got him.

what did he show here or in the process. that made you think that he could become. a guy yeah I think he's one of those. guys he's he's a sneaky speed you know. we saw him at Boise he could play inside. could play outside really smart he was. at the Senior Bowl I thought he stood. out down there uh the week I was down. there in practice I don't remember what. he did in the game but in practice you. could feel he's just one of those guys. he was always open and at Boise when he. you know when the ball was in his his. under his frame he came down with it. he's he's reliable he's consistent and. so I think just what you saw on film. plus every step of the way Senior Bowl.

combine and then when you interview the. young man he's just he's got a quiet. confidence he's not going to boast and. tell you how good he is he's just going. to you know he's a lunch pill he's he. fits Buffalo you know you know perfectly. yeah you have a great culture up there. too keep building you transition now. into your new roster which you're going. to have to do especially whenever you. have an NFL MVP and a very good amount. of players you're going to have to. figure out your next team your next team. obviously you watched New England have. to do that for a long time 20 years they. had like four or five different teams. there that were able to have success the. Chiefs are doing the same exact thing.

you guys are going to have to do that. now back to the orig New England. Patriots fan Boston Connor has a. question for you here yeah yeah and we. we'll see if you can do that not many. can the chief even can so you know no. pressure don't worry about it don't. don't hold that standard that high cuz. it's unsurmountable but to the point of. you know rebuilding the roster salary. cap now 279.899. of all time is it a relief having that. number kind of set in stone now and you. can kind of make your projections of who. you guys can sign who you can bring in.

what contracts you kind of need to. change or was that already something. you've been working on um and also you. know knowing that you're paying Josh uh. a bunch of money does it help a lot now. that we are all the way at you know damn. near $280 million at the cap yeah I mean. it's listen and in my seat you always. want it to go up as much as it can. because you know squeeze a few more in. here you're looking under all these for. for a couple of dim and Niel but um yes. we we always try to error you know as. the at the end of the season when we're.

looking at the guys we want to extend or. guys we're going to have to move on from. we're kind of airing on you know we were. in the kind of two low 270s as what we. were figuring up what we're going to. have to be at so then last week we got. the range of 277 to 281 and5 I think and. so to get this number it really helps. we're we're obviously studying that we. extended Shakir so you know now is when. you're having those conversations of. guys on your roster that you want to. extend can you create space by extending. a guy restructuring his deal or you know. potentially moving on you know last year.

we had you know as Pat was talking about. we had a year of transition everybody we. knew yeah I still remember you FaceTime. I me what are we doing you just cut. every player that I've ever known with. Buffalo. Bills I mean what are we doing it's not. funny either I was I was still hurting. over doing that I know I know I know I. didn't even think about you being a. human I didn't even think about you. being a human I'm just like this guy up. here's got no soul hey what are we doing. you're like yeah I know this is a tough. day right now my wife's already yelling.

at me about it so but it's not easy. that's part of the business and if. you're going to be successful you're. going to have to continue to do it. excited to watch you take advantage of. the lower end of those salaries of the. did remember that remember that I keep. keep bringing all the advice this year. TI this year tight end you're good there. running back you're probably good there.

uh great pick out of Kentucky last year. uh and then dude he was much faster I. think than I I thought and he was able. to yeah very good yeah he. was had it the whole way though you I. thought it was a first round a great. value getting where he got and then dle. D tackle this year so mad Mel excuse me. so I'm just saying probably uh with your. pick 30 was it 30 probably D tackle this. year so if when you're looking uh. yesterday last night you could probably. go home today I think you you probably. saw your guy last night and who is.

it I don't know yet we'll see tell me. who tell me who's there and I'll tell. you well not who were the tackles um uh. what's his name out of organs uh oh. Harmon Dereck Haron okay so you know him. better than us why don't you tell us I. would hope I know him better than you. well let's go then that's why you're on. I know we got mad M so I I respectfully. I respectfully said. National Champion Ohio State D tackles. probably in that range umich Collins. yeah Kenneth Granton that area so you.

know just a couple just a couple guys. just get them all down to me and the. best one what do you think of this draft. class thus far though the depth of it to. his point is in a couple different. positions allegedly at your position. normally going to be taking need not. necessarily best available at like 30. whatever uh it best and yeah you want it. to marry yeah yeah obviously you want to. be the best y if that position of need. has a crop top end can't do it okay we. got to go somewhere else but if the. position of need has a good top end. we're going to hit that especially back.

half or at least last third of first. round right that's kind of mind yeah I. mean to me you can you can the best. thing you can do if if you really want. to hit a need and you don't feel the. values there trade back a little bit and. try and and pick up a pick and then hit. that player where where you got value. you just got to make sure you don't. trade back too far and if you got two. guys there that you would love either. one of them but you don't like them at. pick 30 maybe you like them at pick 40. to 50 if you think they'll be there. trade back pick up a you know like last. year we picked up a third round you know.

with the move to get Keon so there's you. know there's a little analysis you you. got to kind of evaluate your board. you're a mover and Shaker oh yeah you. are mover in sh they got 10 picks this. year oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] what the hell hey. that's a hey 10 picks is a lot that's we. need them but we need them we we you you. talked about it the cap pay and Josh. Allen uh the guys we have we extend. shakure you know you have to you know as. Michael tell you you you have to hit on. these draft picks we have to continue to. find these you know lower cost guys if.

we don't hit those it's not a. sustainable product to continue winning. Lomo what do you think uh is his focus. of building his culture from watching. his team and then Mr Bean I would like. to hear your response to his analysis of. the team y'all stop calling me Mr Bean. y'all make me feel like I'm a 100 years. old Mr be character character it's. English character yeah need to know who. that is we respect youon great actor you. know Pat Pat I think it's exactly the. way the NFL needs to work it's two guys.

that have the sheriff's philosophy and. they work together you know he just. mentioned that they believe in the. offens and defensive line Shawn was with. Andy in Philadelphia so he was in. influenced there and I think that if. you're going to win in this league you. got to have two people doing the job cuz. Shawn can't Scout all the players and. and he can't coach the team so you have. to have two people that can do the job. but they share the same philosophy I. think what happens in the league a lot. is we think this collection of five or. six people can make it when really it. comes down to two people and then those.

two people educating the organization on. the shared philosophy I think what they. deserve a ton of credit is the. transition from being an 11 team to be. more of a buffalo team weatherwise when. they got into 12 oh yeah cuz remember. your team wasn't built for Buffalo. wasn't that the conversation a few years. back you know you heard that no it was. it was and it was right listen I I did. not have enough a physical enough Run. game when the weather you know and and. we adjusted to that and knew that you. know we could throw it with anybody but.

can we run it when the weather dictates. that I think they've done a great job of. I think you've done a great. job of handling that and and as the. league now is transitioning into this. you know remember it wasn't popular to. run the ball now all of a sudden. Philly's made it Philly had what 11. games where they ran the ball more than. they threw it yeah I think they had 200. more Rush attempts than pass attempts. yeah and so we're seeing it and you know. and so I think and they have a they have. a fifth running back on their team I. mean who could stop him in the goal line. who could stop him in the red zone right. so it's a problem and I and I think to.

me that's the hard part it's just. defensively it's hard to sit there in 30. and think you're going to get defensive. lineman you have to kind of get a couple. breaks I think the best in 15 we had a. really good we didn't win the Super Bowl. we lost to Denver but we had a really. good defensive front but we kind of piss. pieced it together getem Hicks for. nothing Allan Branch was on the street. we got him from Buffalo actually kind of. got his leg life back in order it was it. was a little bit of a it that line was. good we had Chandler Jones with a first. round pick but it's hard to get that. when you're picking in the 30s I'm not.

making excuses but it's just you got to. get lucky on some things how do you feel. about what Lombardi he just poured a. massive amount of Praise on it and then. he kind of took a shot at what you did. have at one point and then he came back. into the praise this is sandwich. technique I wasn't I I wasn't there. though for for if he talking about Alan. Branch no he's no no he's talking about. the uh not buil for Buffalo oh yeah yeah. he was spot on though yeah and you have. to every single year you have to self. assess everything you guys have right. and that's a whole process yeah you got. to I mean why did you come up short was. were you just tur the ball over uh were.

you could you not run the ball. effectively could you not stop the run. could you not get to the pass so you got. to look uh at how you're going to beat I. mean we all know the AFC is a gauntlet. to get through and it's not changing. anytime soon so uh we always start with. our division you got to you know if you. don't that's your easiest ticket in and. and you're getting at least one home. game so we start with the dolphins Jets. and Patriots but after that you know. these same teams you know starting what. with what Kansas City's done you got to. give them a lot of credit to be whatever. seven or eight straight AFC championship.

games that's that's remarkable okay and. he mentioned you and McDermot rowing in. the same direction in a lot of places. that kind of starts to Splinter you know. I want the credit or I don't want the. blame or I got good players I have bad. players there's a lot of opportunity. there isn't I mean those happen that's. whenever a bad franchise a bad culture. happens you and McDermot obviously I got. a chance to see him yesterday he's cool. looking man a't he m son of a [ __ ] son. of a [ __ ] but it feels like you two. rowing in the same direction what is it. about him that makes you like him so. much and what is your thoughts on him at.

this stage of being a head coach as. opposed to maybe a few years back yeah I. mean Sean and I worked together in. Carolina I knew who he was you know. coming up behind Jim uh Jim Johnson you. know the late D coordinator that was for. Andy and Philly and so he uh you know. Andy moved on made a decision we you. know Ron Rivera comes in and Sean and I. were together for I think six seasons in. in Carolina and made it a Super Bowl. against Denver same year you were. talking about and so you know sean gets. there and and then I get there and and. we both kind of you know when you're.

working together even though you're not. in the seat he's in or I'm in you're. having conversations with with people. and so there were many times Sean and I. had conversations about building a team. and just like I was telling Mike. building it up front things like that so. I think you start with do you is your. philosophy the same like if if your. philosophy for winning is different it's. probably going to be hard to get on the. same page and then you you know Sean's a. a good person we believe in treating. people well building you know it's it's. team and it's it's not about me it's. about we what can we do what's my role.

and so I think that's how you get a. shared vision and and an alliance how. hungry are you guys man so hungry you. got to be up there I mean just so good. so I mean just ha ha and Bill's Mafia is. ready to explo I mean that was a first. down too by the way yes thank you thank. you it was hor [ __ ] but now we got yeah. we're very fast there's a sensor in the. ball now Pro now there's aens in the. ball so everything's going to be right. now going forward I'm glad we could be. the test dummy again again again change.

the rules uh all right we're wrapping up. here on ESPN you guys have a fantastic. weekend obviously the NFL combine will. be taking place here in Lucas Oil. Stadium in Indianapolis Indiana forever. I hope and I assume and uh Rich Eisen. and Daniel jeremi will be the host of. that they are great at what they do. athletes will be doing spectacular. things on this Turf can wait to talk. about it all on Monday elimination. chamber also tomorrow night live from. Toronto Canada the four nation's Champs.

from everybody in the truck great work. this week boys great work this week in. the. truck to everybody that set this whole. thing up great work this week to the. boys thank you so so much to Tai Schmidt. we miss you to mad Mel thanks for. stopping by Brandon Bean Michael. Lombardi and us will continue on YouTube. ESPN plus Disney plus and Tik Tok live. you are the greatest people on Earth for. allowing us to do this for living be a. friend tell a friend something nice it. might change their life. goodbye okay now we're still live you. watch that that [ __ ] was right in your.

face being that was you're he did that. without a monitor that's what I say I. was looking you're he did that I mean. that's that's what you call a pro that's. what you call a pro what do you mean. without a monitor there's a monitor up. there there's no a tele propter it was. aele tell what to say brother yeah right. couldn't you imagine this show with a. tele propter yeah it would be much I. mean I my reading comprehension not that. good so I don't know if Ty would be able. to do it he's like a speed reader Connor. reads A Lot Conor reads A Lot tone and I. same school system we we we had a text.

was that over break or whatever I missed. something in one of your tweets and you. said hey you oh it was the Super Bowl it. was the Super Bowl contest with the. score of whatever and I said reading. comprehension yeah you're supposed to. put he put the score down the exact. score 2713 didn't put who was winning. though and he's like a representative of. the program now we're giving away. whatever so it's like hey you need to at. least people got to know people need to. know how to enter an actual submission. so I come out of nowhere and uh I don't. give like a group text like hey this is. how this is going to go so it's on me. but yeah we don't read that good um. before we let you go and we can't thank.

you enough for joining us oh yeah how's. the golf game you know cuz golf season. it's beautiful in Buffalo right now yeah. what do you do do you tgl it you Sim I. got a simulator how is the game it's. it's all right you doing any business. while you're Sim uh I have okay so. speaker phone yeah listen to this. drive I don't do that I stop I stop and. have the conversation. but oh so we're not I'm not swinging and. doing it no but I got the phone in there. ready to roll how often are you talking. cuz I think it was a couple years back.

you told us like if you even see a tweet. from pro football talks Mike Florio who. is obviously you know. yeah I as the name as the name was. coming out of my mouth I thought oh okay. great they we this is great but anyways. hey he had a great breakdown of that uh. Starbucks Stone sure had a had a great. have you guys solved that crime yet rap. sheet came over here R got [ __ ] up you. should he had two black guys dude no I.

did no that is not that is not the case. um we don't know if they're going to. shake hands before they get out of here. they're not going to shake hands no uh. but rap it's almost like Mel and Bill. Tobin the late great Bill Tobin I mean. that was rest in peace bill I was going. to say where's Bill Tobin at okay uh. rest in peace bill bill was a wonderful. guy Bill was a wonderful bill is rest in. peace yes that was disgusting we love. Bill to I didn't. bring we scratch that from the record. yeah we like shake his hand and squash. it if absolutely so but we I think what.

rap wanted uh me to know and I said you. should say this you're an Insider he. goes it's not for me to say he. says he did not call NFL security that's. big news that's big news I think that is. kind of breaking news from a news. breaker there he's saying I did not call. NFL security was I asked about the. incident because a lot of people saw it. by superiors in definitely so he's. saying he's not the one that was like. Mommy you know like that is you know cuz. Jordan was like Dad you know and then.

everybody said rap was like Mom you know. so that rap rap rap would like to let. everybody know that he was not the one. that c n that is what our source says. says are telling us so you just gave. your Source away yeah. Ian told me right over here yeah you're. a great source breaker thank you thank. you you should have heard it the other. day hey I got a text from Source s that. said I'm playing next year so that was a. that was a tough giveaway as well but. let's talk about it you would you would.

read something hear something pops up. somewhere it's like oh maybe there is a. little where there's smoke there's fire. maybe there is a little issue you'll you. know check in with the GM on the player. you know and it doesn't necessarily mean. I want to trade it doesn't necessarily. mean I want to make a deal you're just. trying to gather information does that. happen still and how rapid is that. happening right now especially at this. combine here I think it it's always. happening because the league never stops. I mean there's guys that you're hearing. in June you know for whatever reason a. team drafted a player and now they. realize man they want to get that player. on the field they've got a a contract.

that they could move on from so I don't. feel like it really stops until you get. to like late June between there and Camp. it kind of dies down and you know we got. our staff you know they're they're on. top of it more than me they're keeping. me up to date you know with my with my. Scouts they're on Twitter and all that. way more than or X whatever it's called. way more than I am yeah but I've tried. to track it as well as I can but we've. got a good group of people and we'll put. on text chain hey I heard it from an. agent I heard it on Pro footb talk I.

heard it on you know X whatever it is. and so then it may not just be me it may. be one of them may reach out to one of. their contacts on a club and say hey. reading is this true just so you know. whether you want to spend any time on it. or not do I want to go watch the player. and evaluate him or I don't need to. waste my time and normally truth is told. there I would say most of the time it is. now not all the time sometimes the team. may say at this point they're thinking. about it but they haven't kind of you. know they're not they're not saying yes. but they're not saying no okay you could.

also send one of your copos out it. sounds like and uh say hey do we have. any uh do we have any operation going on. here and respond back go yeah yeah sure. sure sure sure go and waste your time on. all that stuff and then when it comes. back nah we got nothing how about when a. player says I am not willing to. negotiate feel this like now granted you. be who you can afford to be the miles. Garr Cleveland Brown situation for. instance which could I mean o line dline. Howie this is um miles Garrett allegedly. uh not willing to negotiated with.

Cleveland Browns okay has asked for his. trade very loudly obviously wants the. world to know not just copos finding out. I'm sure if you've heard about it not. yet have you heard no I haven't heard. that okay well there you go okay so. Miles Garrett is not happy thanks guys. in in in his um in his message actually. he utilized Andrew Barry's word. in a bar that was like get me out of. here like a direct shot seemingly in the. thing miles Garrett top five player and.

whatever you want to have conversation. uh obviously defensive player of the. year he said I just want to win man I I. just want I would like to be in the big. games so he wants to go to a place. that's great which obviously would suit. you uh in the entirety but when you hear. something like that does it scare you. that the player feels like that with the. team like how do you go about reading. one of those situations and I'm not. saying exactly miles but this has. happened with star players in the past. obviously yeah I mean listen we when. there was rumors about Steph wanting out. before you know before we actually moved.

on even you know a year prior things. like that so sometimes there's some. truth to it sometimes there's no truth. to it I think you start with the play. you know the player himself you know. Andor his representatives and you just. have truthful conversations about where. both sides are at and and sometimes you. may have to agree to disagree you know. on that circumstance and so you got to. in in this role you have to do what's. best for your club and you know is that. you know is it time to break it off now. is it is it you know what we're going to. do it for another year like we did Steph.

and break it off later so I think you. know that situation I don't you know I. couldn't tell you what the facts are. other than you know some stuff you're. he's at a Copo going down in Cleveland. going down on the lake uh Lombardi as we. wrap up this hour uh we appreciate you. hanging out any part any parting words. for Mr Bean here no I mean look he's got. more money than he thought he was going. to have he's got great op got 10 draft. picks I mean you know last year's last. year everybody's 0 and0 so started all. over again yeah good luck Mr Bean we. appreciate you Brandon for joining us. and uh congrats on all the success thus.

far how old are you 48 oh you look so. young you look younger not as young as. Gladstone well that's what I was going. to tell you Gladstone let's let's look. at him in four years like President I. didn't have when I did my press. conference I didn't have gray hair when. I was 40 do you guys have a group text. gentleman you'd have to reach out to. glone yeah we we do I have not connected. with him yet but yeah we'll we'll we'll. make sure to do that because that's like. a business like that's natural you have. to have he usually only uses Snapchat. you do Snapchat hey pipsqueak you guys.

got to give him a swirly in the bathroom. here kind of ducked him hi welcome to. the show brother uh lombo thanks for. hanging out thanks guys I appreciate. being here good luck thank you so much. you don't have to get up and leave we're. we're going to throw to a break lombo. we're going to throw to a break Lomo you. Mr be he's only been gone a month he. forgot forgot how TV works yeah I got. didn't do TV anymore he's a general. manager hey there's going to be lot of. players coming out of UNC let's go let's. go I'm I'm I'm in I'm in for that Chapel. Hill is a nice place to visit I I'll be. down there I'm in North I'm a North.

Carolina born guy oh yeah yeah plus yeah. great Golf Course Duke guy though great. golf course I'm not a Duke guy don't. start. that I heard I heard don't start hey you. saw in Bill's you saw in Bill's contract. that was publicly because it was a state. done contract he's a member down at that. Country Club remember he's got the. country club couple cars which country. club what is it down there it's called. Chapel Hill Country Club it's beautiful. it's right there it's right next to the. campus then they have one on campus I. mean it's North Carolina is you know. they've got so many great last night we.

were at Quail Hollow which is going to. host the PGA there good track great. track you see what he's doing right now. and it's on my simulator oh how do you. play it you play pretty well I've played. it yeah remember he they PJ last time it. was up in Buffalo or New York or. whatever and he lied about yeah you lied. about your scoring I did not li8 yeah. you said yeah I'm normally in the '90s. or whatever played my ass off to do that. iwe shot 75 yeah so you're saying we. should be proud you're saying like hey. no I got lucky I had the round of my.

life on the biggest stage here I got. lucky and then there was a little bit of. on the scorecard wasn't there if I Dan. orlovski all right let's get he's not. even here to defend himself by does have. to be here to defend himself wait a. minute wait a minute hey here rap sheet. will you come over here please oh [ __ ]. rap sheet hey Ian he's breaking news on. you that he he already gave you up as. the source though hey I didn't give you. up I said my source.

says said that I did not call NFL. security can you yeah that that in my. source was talking about your situation. there is all I said I mean I think you. have good source say says in this. situation how would I how would I do. that okay I would number my boss I mean. not me11. answer get the Cs down here hey the. makeup's good though to cover up the. Shiner yeah. up hey how's the week going for you rep.

it's been a week what's Stafford getting. paid uh probably similar to last year. last year he got 40 should be about. similar to that it's not done yet but. it's what I H took less you reported. that what does that mean how much less. so my understanding is like Giants and. Raiders you know he was allowed to age. was allowed to talk to him would have. been more higher 40s maybe up to 50 and. wasn't going to be that for the Rams but. if you're Stafford it's like you can win. there it's home actually home so I think. it made sense all right we appreciate.

you rap she great work this week makeup. on all right we'll see this oh he has no. make that was a shot of you s that's how. I look yeah I woke up like this Bean. okay I had some coffee. from. [Music]. oh Dunkin Donut oh my. God all right we appreciate you he's. trying to crash the stocks right now. buddy he's once he like realized like. wait a second uh yeah I don't drink. Starbucks anymore he's really been he's.

really been going I hope they shake. hands obviously cuz the combine's a. great place we get a chance to chat with. great friends like you two thank you for. stopping by Boys we're going to take a. break we'll be back on the other side. for hour three be a friend tell a friend. something nice it might change the life. take fire. [Music]. well nonetheless as of February 1st uh. Pat maath is officially a contributor. with.

WWE from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania way of. Indianapolis. Indiana living his dream to be a part of. WrestleMania I want to I want to see Pat. mafey tonight I've been preparing for. this my entire life like maae wins maae. wins Pat maae has done it again and time. to toast the boys he toast the brand.

Mam's wanted to drink beer with Stone. Cold forever stun stun up there's a. point in my life all I could think about. doing was professional. wrestling M closing in on another. WrestleMania. Victor first we're going to have to get. the okay obviously and we did from. people high up they were the only people. that knew for a while there was like. three people that knew in the whole. world that that was going to potentially. be a situation for a little bit city of.

stars Boston Conor here we will be there. tonight nobody's supposed to know we're. here it's going to be tough cuz if. you're a man that's only known for. wearing tank PS you kind of got to. covered. [Music]. up there any heart here I didn't hey I'm. Pat nice sir he's hanging in the. back one second one second one second. you I to my. [Music].

face I can't see [ __ ] who's to be in. here nobody this is you until you go out. come on. dude let's go and take a look around. there's some bump beds there you know. there's a [ __ ] in a shower here in the. back he sat in that bus 6 7 8 hours 9 10. hours I'm tring down that thing holy. [ __ ] what a view that that's going to be. hell yeah those [ __ ] people are going. to be there just waiting you know for an. opportunity to potentially have a.

WrestleMania moment it's ridiculous this. is awesome WWE is just like the best at. operating they take care of the non. obvious so we're very thankful to be. here and tonight should be [ __ ] sick. oh yeah I think there's like three. people in know here are we not supposed. to come in here no yeah all right four. now look at you [ __ ] say a word I'll. see you at H sofa you're going to be in. La hi I don't know George is you know. load George we don't know George you. don't know maybe up do oh. nice as soon as I saw George showcase at.

tight end University tank top I knew. there's a chance old George about do. something. special are you kidding boys welcome to. WrestleMania you know the night was. getting late sure we didn't know if a. moment was going to pop up where maybe. my services could be utilized I haven't. been in a r since SU. okay like not. even in one all I wanted was The Miz to. have an opportunity to have ACH a. WrestleMania match good guy stand there.

and then The Miz mentions I sent out an. open Challenge and we go oh my god there. it is I put out an open. Challenge and no one. responded why because I'm the. Miss and. di oh. let's. go wait a.

minute here I have walked out into a. stadium as a WWE. Superstar probably a million times in my. head WrestleMania was missing prop AC of. me in the prop acab Me show and I'm. thankful to the WWE universe that said. hello whenever I came out on that. massive [ __ ] stage by the way there's. only two announcers undefeated in. Wrestlemania history me and Pat I can't. believe ofies. here hello beautiful.

people Su. Snoop Su Snoop you're a legend dog. you're the best dog hello Miss none of. us saw this alleged open challenge that. you said but. good news this is my WrestleMania tank. talk if you still would like a match why. don't you let me beat your ass right.

here right. now you all want to see The Miz versus. Pat mcafe right here right. now oh yeah I'm the host of WrestleMania. and I cannot make matches official. Li I do believe your tiny balls are. showing tiny. balls tiny.

balls baby meat as well there's. [Music]. 8,4. 97 people here somebody has to be able. to make a match up this. somewhere I am the dog father and the. host of WrestleMania so I feel like I. can make that match happen right now we.

got a ref we got you we got you let's. get cracked I'm out let's go I don't. do and Ma go right after B with the. right hand Driving Miss back into the. corner Pat mby in action this is a. blatant sneak. he takes his duties as host of. [Applause]. WrestleMania oh yeser Dar shows up and.

you check out his paint top though he's. got sparkles on it you're behind this. aren't you oh no I have no idea you said. the same thing of the rubble I didn't. know this guy was showing. up oh what a kick by. maafe hold on on hey baby B baby. [Music]. b000 George Kenn and the San Francisco.

49ers I'm not sure how wise that wise. M's got the official distract in the. ring K just took out this Kel telling. Mak to go up top M heading up to the top. [Applause]. rope and Tak it out the m. now we talking M may never win another. match Mame closing in on another. WrestleMania.

Victory. oh the. old deade hter with a pun to end this. thing here's your. winner p a surprise here tonight at. wrest media goes. [Music]. Hollywood.

Bo that match was awesome I had so much. fun there that was a good time the putt. is [ __ ] hilarious you got a tiny. bulge CH. on I had a feeling I had a feeling tell. we were staying here all day oh I wanted. to text you earlier I not to text you oh. of course nobody [ __ ] text than you. had a hell of a sh I'm so thankful to. the people at the WWE it was a super. cool night super cool moment and I'm. very thankful for it. all 5:30 a.m. Sunday this day started.

6:30 a.m. Saturday so much cool [ __ ]. happened in between now and then joke of. an existence I'm very thankful for. everything let's go take a. nap why let's go to the phones let's go. to Dan in Connecticut lovely place here. on the 5y phone line. Dan oh what's up Pat McAfee Dan you are. too young to listen to this show I can. tell I think how old not Dan I am.

Owen M Owen how old are you he so. different I am at eight and a half oh. eight and a half if you're telling us. you're half age you're too young to we. listen that's a record what what's on. your mom what do you want to talk about. Owen. um I want to talk about how inspiring. this show is and how you're inspiring. this whole entire world with how you're.

talking about sports and how you're. talking about your life. experience thank you Owen Owen thank you. owow I'm taking and also [ __ ]. Boston you the best the best I would let. and know if you're still listen ow. you're inspiring best kid ever ow and. the way you talk about sports is. inspiring I didn't know8 and a half to. do that is that shout out that Hey ow.

New Generation in Connecticut I guess he. was making me feel good too by the way. he's making me feel good making the show. feel good he was talking us up he was. hyping us up and then boom yeah little. is this Aristotle's brother little. misdirection from Aristotle's brother. and eight and a half there that was. awesome I'd say he put his balls on your. forehead but I don't think they dropped. yet so probably the most interesting. trade was the Randy Moss trade after the. draft the first day of the draft we've. been trying to trade for Randy Moss for. two months all like child birth I mean. it's took forever after the first day of.

the draft I talked to Mr Davis I said. are we going to make a deal or not and. he said yeah we'll do it we'll do it for. your fourth and I think we were picking. like seventh in the fourth round I said. well we got to get the guy in for a. physical we can't take his contract. we're going to have to renegotiate his. contract and Mr Davis said well that's. your problem you want to trade for him. then you get it done I said all right I. call up Randy hey Randy this coach Bel. boom hangs up the phone what let me try. this again Randy it's coach Bel who is. this who's pranking me who is this hangs. up the. phone Randy this is coach Bel we traded.

for you what is this a joke this better. not be a joke who is this no no no no. this is all right all right all right. really I said yeah but look we got to. get this done by tomorrow at noon goes. all right what do I need to do I said. you need to come up take a fiscal and we. need to renegotiate your contract is by. noon yeah CU well I'm in Houston now but. I got a plane I'll be there nice he. flies and he's there at 8:00 in the. morning comes in and takes the physical. know the old yeah uh-huh make sure he. okay you're.

good renegotiate the contract we're done. at 10:00 and first thing he says to me. is where's the Playbook oh said right. here he said okay because when I walk. out there with the first team with Brady. I got to know all the plays I can't go. out there and make mental errors and. screw up I got to know of his offense. and he was smart now this guy was smart. on this post safety coverage what are. you going to do goes you ain't going to. see any post safety coverage against me. like he goes you're going to see cover. two we haven't seen cover two in years. he's like you're going to see cover two. and he was right and then he would say. well here's how I'd run this route.

here's how I'd run that route and I. started thinking like we got to start. giving Randy some routes we're running. this and they play cover two how he can. move him into the slot he's like move me. into the slot I said yeah so you can get. out the middle of cover two all right. good 25 touchdowns so many opens up the. running game I'm telling you it Randy. come on man trying. to hey why let's. go this show sticks and the fact that.

you listen we are very very thankful for. it that could be on the line with a. gorgeous assist the alltime leading. tackler for the Green Bay Packers. you up up damn it be a friend tell a. friend something nice to change their. life. [Applause]. [Music]. sport hello beautiful people and welcome. back to Lucas Oil Stadium in beautiful. Indianapolis Indiana the forever home of. the combine which we are live from hour.

three the program starts right. now. comine hey that was good work there. Scott that was good work there Scott you. should be proud of your work unreal. Louisiana Scott on obviously yeah he did. he was seeing the field a little bit. differently today than he did yesterday. last night he was dreaming like Queen's. Gambit he saw a couple different moves. around the race cars and showcasing the. Super Bowl champions on the wall this. Louisiana Bayou boy has absolutely.

crushed for us and uh not just me but. the toic table at Boston Connor and mad. Mel Kyper and one half of the hammer. done Cowboys T digs and all the boys in. the truck uh wanted to make sure that he. felt at home so we actually ordered. Scott uh we got you some G some G. nuggets little bit of G got some gor. nuggets I don't know if we have a camera. on it or not but Bruce Bruce has go. ahead Bruce go ahead and hand him over. Scott tell us what we we think it's G. and uh some of that Indiana just let you.

know yeah we killed that G right down. the road here so I hope you enjoy it we. appreciate your work you have been. fantastic for us brother okay cheers to. you Scott who's making G in Indiana yeah. to be clear I'm not 100% sure I thought. of the idea uh yesterday and me and Z. chatted about it and um Z said I I can. get G to by to you by 2:30 and I said Z. you know what you go ahead and run with. it I I don't know where he got it I. don't know how he got it but I'm. appreciative of you that's by you fresh. that is by you fresh I bet that Gator. doesn't taste like Governor Jeff.

Landry's Gator well Governor Jeff lry. has the best Gator yes he still waiting. on it yeah yeah when's that arve I think. we're going to have to go to him. potentially but thank you Scott you've. made our show better we appreciate it. and you saved your Best For Last there I. mean you saved your Best For Last which. is obviously a thrill we have a couple. uh you know programming notes Here. uh big news fresh out of a meeting with. Matthew Stafford that resulted in. Matthew Stafford remaining with the Los. Angeles Rams Shawn McVey head coach of.

the Rams will join us on Monday at 12:15. Shawn McVey will be joining us shout out. to Artemis uh the pr guy over there. piecing This Together very nice to C. artist I'm sorry not Artemis geez both. name is cool yeah Artemis would be. that's a superhero name which is what he. did to make this happen but artist uh. for making this take place and uh Sean. mcfay we can't wait to chat with you you. know oh yeah coach thank you for the. honor of joining us on Monday I can't. wait for that conversation first time I.

think so yeah this be our first time. talking to him we've learned a lot about. him from afar though we've obviously. watched all his miked UPS we've seen him. he was on a microphone for the Super. Bowl crushed it absolutely crushed it. that's why whenever they you hear. Amazon's offering him 20 million a year. or 30 million a year to call games it's. like oh this could potentially be the. next voice of football if he wanted to. Madden uh John that is had a very early. start as a head coach for the Raiders. wins a bunch retires at a very young age. goes into TV becomes the John Madden not.

that he wasn't a incredible coach he was. he won a lot but it was in a short time. period he goes to TV takes over feels. like Shawn McVey potentially on the same. track if he wanted but every year he. turns it down and he says I'm a football. guy I'm a football guy guden same exact. thing congrats on getting your name back. up in the Ring of Honor in Tampa but. with that being said Shawn McVey on. Monday is a big deal how'd they get the. deal done Matt Mill how'd they get the. deal done how'd they get Matt to stay. out there well I think you know you look. at it and it's kind of one of those. things where at Matthew Stafford's age.

obviously money is a big part of it but. he's made a lot of money I mean we all. have talked about this Pat you've moved. a couple times in you know the last. couple years moving is the worst [ __ ]. thing ever it sucks okay he doesn't want. to move his family he's got kids he. doesn't want to move them from one place. to another and and he's at the end of. his career okay he wants to be in a. place where he can win a Super Bowl we. talked about it the Rams were right. there they pushed the Eagles to the. brink no one else in the playoffs did if.

they win that game they're playing at. home in the NFC championship and who. knows they might be Super Bowl champions. you could make that argument sure going. to Vegas they got a new everything you. know Sin City that'd be great are the. Las Vegas Raiders going to win a Super. Bowl next year probably not are you. going to go play for the New York Giants. are they going to win a Super Bowl next. year no uh you know let if you go to the. Giants you're you're hoping hey maybe. we'll win five games this year I don't. think that's Matthew Stafford's done. that okay he played with the Lions when. they [ __ ] sucked he doesn't want to. do that again he's in a pretty good spot.

in uh you know in La so I think it all. kind of made sense you know hey I'll go. out there I'll let people kind of smooch. my nut sack and and they did a little. bit of that didn't they exactly they did. that a little bit but at the end. everybody likes that at the end of the. day I'm going to stay in LA with my. family my wife's a superstar here as. well with her podcast my kids are. comfortable in school and I'm going to. go hunt another Super Bowl sha McBay how. about him saying it was nice to feel. wanted though you know cuz the Rams. trade from Detroit took place allegedly. in a resort down in Mexico over like a.

weekend Extended Stay so didn't get. necessarily to hear from the entire. league on if they would how much they. would pay a Matthew Stafford at this age. allegedly there was 90 to100 million. offers out there I don't know how many. of that is ever going to get solidified. or firmed up in the public knowledge but. allegedly the Giants were offering n. figures at this stage to get Matthew. Stafford in there into the day ball. offense now with the Matthew Stafford. quarterback domino falling and by. Falling I mean staying put at home now.

all the other veteran quarterbacks are. in conversation including Aaron Rogers. Adam sheer has tweeted that now that. Matthew Stafford will stay with the Los. Angeles. Rams the New York Giants are. investigating all veteran quarterback. options including Aaron Rogers per. sources so he doesn't just have a. Source s he has source is numerous. people talking about that he's at the. combine a lot of people at the combine. it's like yeah we will certainly. investigate whether or not he can keep. the same house he doesn't have to move.

he actually already has this house in. New Jersey and he can come play for the. New York football Giants it'll be a. different experience over here than it. was for the New York Jets and uh I. assume he's not the only one they're. also going to be peing at Sam darnold. and others as the veteran quarterback. Market is now a little bit more wide. open with Stafford stay there's also. Buzz about uh Russ Wilson going to the. New York Giants and I think that's you. know it's it's not too farfetched. because if you guys remember uh I. remember cuz I'm a Steelers fan he left.

the New York Giants facility and flew to. the Pittsburgh Steelers facility last. year and then he never left the facility. and became a Pittsburg Steeler so they. had interest they had a lot of interest. in in Russ last year uh the New York. Giants did so it it wouldn't be. far-fetched to think that they would be. potentially interested in him again this. year if it's not Aon what are your. thoughts I I think the only uh. difference between the Jets and the. giant is the colors so I don't know if. Rogers wants to do that red white and. blue yeah fantastic colors one of the. best schemes out there when it comes to. colors but I think that would probably.

sting for Rogers uh I think no matter. what all the teams that were maybe. possibly drafting the quarterback. depending on you know Stafford are still. going to now be in the quarterback. Market you know if if we're looking at. Cleveland and we're looking at the Giant. when it comes to the draft Cleveland the. Giants the Raiders you know and pending. Sam darnold you know if Rogers or. cousins or Russell goes to any of those. three teams I think those three teams. all still are thinking like hey we still. need a long-term option especially when.

it comes to Aaron Aaron's you know going. to be 42 if if he's not already that's. not a if he wants to play I think that's. something that does get forgotten yeah. Aaron Rogers could certainly decide to. retire that is not. something Aaron Rogers football yeah he. is before the darkness he's. 90 80% or something like that like 90 10. 8020 yeah so it's not as if that is like. something that he has never thought. about he was going to do it with the. backers before that situation played out.

how it played out yeah and honestly you. know us reading the Aaron Rogers. situation just as people that have been. very lucky to talk to him weekly. throughout the last five seasons and. there's been a lot that has happened and. then obviously getting a chance to learn. about the human the football everything. about him I don't just like the text I. got from my source s about the tight end. uh Travis Kelsey in Kansas City it's. like his last sentence was I can't go. out like that you know and I know. there's a lot of people that chase the. dragon at the end of their careers but.

like there's no way Aaron lets that be. the final taste in his mouth about NFL. in my eyes I I don't think you know. because the end of that season he starts. spinning it you know and obviously he's. back from an Achilles he starts moving. that team starts playing much better. that team starts playing what everybody. thought they were going to play like now. obviously way too little way too late. we're not saying that's not the case but. like those last couple games it's just. like when you go golfing you know it's. just like when you go golfing you're. done with golf and then whole 17 whole.

18 somehow you hit one and it's like a. flop shot like Phil Mickelson and it. goes in and it's like yeah I shot 102. today but we'll play tomorrow if I do. that one every single I'm not saying. he's a 102 golfer I'm just saying at the. end whenever you still you. you I believe when I approved everybody. yeah I still got it I know I still got. it and uh I think there's a very in my. eyes and this is not from him I have not. asked him we will talk to him next week.

we certainly will I mean that is. certainly a question that'll be on the. but like from a judgment standpoint it's. like I think he's going to I think he's. playing football again I I think there. is personally he is not said that I. think AJ would assume that he's going to. continue to play football cuz he is but. the end of the season you think AJ. thinks he's out no no I don't think that. no no I I I I I think you're right I I. think I legitimately think that is the. case but there is a chance he retires. though and like literally just. disappears into a jungle somewhere or.

into a house or maybe he opens a book. club or a bookstore I mean there's like. so many different options with Aaron. Rogers I I believe that they're all. being kind of dove into at this point. and who would blame them this deep into. his career a Hall of Fame career already. yeah no I I mean I think he still wants. to play he doesn't want to go out like. that for his sake. I hope he has more options than going to. the [ __ ] Giants I do not want to see. I was thinking where's he going to go. and win like who has openings Minnesota. yes only if they don't want JJ and we'll.

see I mean if they want JJ yes if they. sorry if they don't want to make if they. don't want to start JJ's like. quarterback career this year I mean. obviously you want to win a Super Bowl. but I also think there's a difference. between going somewhere and and winning. nine games and getting in the playoffs. and you know then we'll see as opposed. to the Giants just have so many holes. and I it doesn't matter how I don't. think Roger at 32 in the peak of his. powers with this current roster that the. Giants have I don't think he's taking. him to the Super Bowl so does he want to.

do the same song and dance in New York. with the media you know I just for his. sake loving the guy I do not want to I'd. rather see him go play for the Raiders. cuz he's closer to home and who knows. you know they win nine games that that'd. be unbelievable a Aaron in Vegas imagine. that desert house he would have out. there be so sickon beautiful that feels. like Sam Sam's going to be a Raider but. then I'm thinking like could Aaron go to. ten like with Tennessee makes sense. probably he has raw land out there a lot.

of people have raw land in Nashville. Tennessee we have learned strictly. because of the reports of Aaron Rogers. having raw land in Nashville Tennessee. which he certainly does we assume unless. the real estate portfolio has changed in. a matter of a couple years I think I. think the coach matters in that. situation though too because that's why. the McBay thing made sense because it's. like he'll go with a guy he respects I. don't know if he wants to I'm not and. I'm not saying anything about Callahan I. think see like the Steelers at this. point it's like I If there's anywhere he.

goes I hope he's a Steeler because you. go to Tennessee not only are they going. to [ __ ]. suck for my life. the of the so you know what the. Pittsburgh Steelers are putting down. that'd be awesome cuzz he respects. Tomlin but Tennessee you don't like as. much I just don't think going to be any. good I mean that division stinks you. know better than anybody you know that. division absolutely stink wor the AFC. South ter big Go's awful but you know. it's just does he want to go somewhere.

where he's got a second-year head coach. where it's kind of the same thing this. guy's trying to get his philosophy in. there he's trying to get the team to. roll in his direction and you got a guy. who's been playing quarterback for 20. plus years to come in and say like hey. pal zip it we're going to do what I want. to do okay like yeah your playbooks. awesome we're running my [ __ ] offense. and that's like a whole bad taste thing. it's like he's going to if he has a bad. taste in his mouth right now okay he. wants to come back and he wants to play. and he wants to win Tennessee Giants I. mean Raiders have they got a lot of like.

good hype but I don't think we're. putting the Raiders above Denver yeah. Denver Chargers or the Chiefs obviously. so it's like the situation the Steelers. would be cool and the Vikings would be. cool those are like basically the only. two legitimate options it feels like. were those other places yes they need. quarterbacks but is like Aaron Rogers. going to go there and like could you. imagine the Giants if it starts the same. way the Jets did and then they fire day. ball and he's going through a. situation no that not be good that' be a.

nightmare um how much money is Aaron. guaranteed next year do we know o not. sure so like everybody's talking about. Stafford's looking to make money. Stafford's looking to get paid while. also being respect here we go outright. release 49 million a dead cap next. season for the Jets 25.5 million 14. million. uh okay this is depending upon whenever. they make the decision to move on which. they've already publicly said that they. would all parties have and the GM of the. Jets said we didn't give him an.

ultimatum we didn't tell him he can't be. on the pat Macky show and AR was like. I'm going to be on the pat Ma and he. said we're getting we're getting a. different quarterback then and Aaron. said fine and walked out of there that. was like being talked about found doubt. reported I was so uncomfortable I was. like come on this guy's career a [ __ ]. billion dollar industry leave my [ __ ]. name on please I'm in Puerto Rico Jesus. Christ please I'm just yeah and then he. had to come out and address it at the. combine there was no ultimatum made. about anything with him to come back.

they have a vision of what they want. their team to look like they will take. the dead cap hit and continue to build. that Aaron Glenn and muja got hired over. there to do that with the Jets we. assumed that that was going to be the. case I think Aaron was hoping for an. opportunity to make it right with jets. fans and the Jets organization and bring. along a Young quarterback but I don't. think that was. I don't think that was ever really. reality I just in my eyes with I don't. even know if it was just those two or. how many different coaches or GMS would. go in there and it would not be the case. now V says there's um opportunity and.

compensation up there in New England. that's right with the Jets being in. rebuilt the Buffalo Beals being at the. top how long before the New England. Patriots are back you know dancing under. the confetti you think in your eyes in. under the Super Bowl confetti which is. the confetti well the how do you. describe the confetti as a Pac Super. Bowl only Super Bowl you only you only. problem confetti for Super Bowl so if. we're talking confetti um I don't know. let's see cuz the whole thing with and I.

love Drake may I am confident he is a. Hall Famer without a doubt but if say m. if we proved sounds like he doesn't. believe him if Drake May proved anything. this year he can be all worlds but if. you don't have an offensive line it. really doesn't matter if I mean it. happened with Mahomes in the Super Bowl. got got killed so when we're talking. about confetti I mean you got you got to. fill some holes you got you got to be. able to use that compensation to bring. in the right guys now with Vel at the. helm when it comes to competing for.

division titles and that's kind of what. he said yesterday with Rich Eisen and uh. what's his name uh DJ Daniel Jeremiah uh. he said first and foremost we got to win. the division and when it comes to Wi The. Division I don't think we're that far. away especially with Drake and the money. we got in comparison to some of the. other guys I I know I saw you looking. over there as if I thought it was. Gladstone I thought. GL the boys from du are walking by good.

luck good luck in the AFC. South huh good luck not worried about. you I'm worried about not worried about. this place you need to watch it okay the. Jags certainly have had the Colts number. for a long time yeah but I've I've. talked to a lot of people around here a. lot of them wearing Colts logos let's. just say all right it is a a big pile of. [ __ ] no that is not true just a year out. from being the Titans I actually got a.

chance to shake Chris Ballard's hand. over there earlier that was a good. moment for me all I I assume for him as. well is he suting up this year look like. he looked like he beard looks awesome. right beard looks good he cut his hair. obviously said I'm not cutting it until. we win Super Bowl and then he realized. I'm an adult you know like I got to oh. is that what he Jesus pric it a couple. years thought he realized he's not one. at the Super Bowl not last year yeah he. wasn't able to do it last year we got. open competition you never know a. quarterback position quarterback comes. along either Anthony Richardson learns. how to be a pro and plays football well.

and then we're off and running sweet. shows up dayto day does everything. required to be a professional. quarterback an NFL quarterback also. doesn't tap out when he's tired but you. won't be tired if you do everything. you're supposed to do dayto day I think. the tapping out whenever you're tired is. a bigger indicator than of anything else. you know it's a big indicator I think. personally of a lot of things culture. one of them he should not think it's. okay to do that he should want to be. able to be out there with the boys no. matter what happens so you you Chang the. culture a little bit here in India you. get a couple guys in here get a couple. guys out of here you get the quarterback.

position right you get the L house. rocking huh huh yeah there like 15. things that's fine you know it's not as. if that that that's what this season's. all about yeah that's what this season's. all about everybody's o and0 we just. heard it m Bingo that's what Lombardi. said that that's the thing about the. patriots man better yesterday or better. today than we were yesterday. tomorrow what we're going to be 10 times. better than we were today yesterday I. think you tomorrow is today I'm seeing a. lot of people that they just lot.

doppelgangers I can't see with all the. lights it's impossible lights are very. bright everybody looks like somebody but. everybody's like staring at us and can. see us very well M you know so I always. wonder like if we got heat with somebody. here walking by and we're L looking in. their Direction going hey how you doing. and head they're like they called me a. big dumb dip [ __ ] just about two two. weeks ago whatever I mean that that's. why uh who do we have on yesterday that. Matt rule that's why I love Matt rule so.

much cuz when he was in Carolina I can. specifically remember calling him an. absolute doofus and he he has he he. probably knows he probably doesn't care. cuz he knows didn't go well over there. well I think what a lot of these coaches. understand is there's a lot more than we. would ever realize if we're not in a. building on why something that isn't. working you know so they certainly can. build up some Spite and anger towards. people but I think coach Ru will. potentially listen to that and then. listen to a couple more clips and he was. like you know what those guys those are. my type of coming from a good a good.

place and Frank GRE helped them well and. I heard some stuff about that uh a lot. Carolina Panthers are in a good spot. from what I've heard okay right they. don't need a quarterback got a. quarterback don't need a quarterback. Morgan the GM dog dog I believe he's. going to be on the program at some point. in the next few weeks I would assume uh. a lot of some coaches that I've known. through my football Journey are down. there coaching got a chance to catch up. with them chitchat with them the things. they're saying about the way the. organization is running right now vers.

maybe what they had heard about the. organization from years past just being. like things are real things are feeling. up up yeah things are feeling very good. over here and it all goes back to terer. donating a stadium that's yeah right for. that concert yeah it didn't hurt donate. and then Bryce coming back he gets. benched then comes he watches Andy. Dalton go bananas and then he goes okay. takes a breath for a bit doesn't have a. team literally a whole program and. organization on his back gets to watch a. pro be a pro how he goes about doing his.

things and also how much he maybe trusts. or understands this or looks this and. then gets drop back in it's like good we. feel good then Canales his offense is. kind of understood by people Morgan. going to get their culture people in. there H hubard started to go bananas. towards the end of the year got an. extension Canadian man Canadian I. believe CH and then what then you look. at the top you look at the top yeah I. think chuba's Canadian I think damn. right never mind then is that right yes. sir that was our Canadian Gumpy I be. Canadian tomorrow maybe we should kick.

him out of the league then Doug chuba. yeah well let's not get too crazy about. any Canadians cuz we got kid Canada's. little brother coming you know we we. have talked about him good point. Medical's not great I don't think what a. thumb thumb and a knee too play with. yeah play with a basically torn ACL all. year so he's tough but a little bit. older you know knees all [ __ ] up. Canadian Canadian that doesn't help nope. no it helps prob probably a winner he'll. probably be the number one pick in the. CFL draft I heard I heard from some.

which is a great League fun League they. have fun games like the way they go. about doing their zy it is it is a. little zany it's a zany version of. football which we appreciate whole. country zany take it easy ton T you. sound a little negative yeah let's talk. about your Tweet T what' he say I said. [ __ ] Canada what how'd that go for you. why'd you do that what way he muted it. he didn't see any of. it got a lot of Canadians yelling at a. they kind they tend to forget we can.

send about I don't know 50 guys up there. and take over the whole country okay all. right we knew that's what you were. alluding to and I don't love that at all. I would like to say that it does feel. like the Canadian hockey team beating. the United States of America and the. four nations in Boston was like a we're. staying a country and that that is just. gotten real quiet hasn't it since that. game there has been no chatter of Canada. really becoming the 51st state like. literally the hockey team a pig slip. game they kept it hey so congrats to the.

Canadians I would like to say they may. have lost Wayne Gretzky though he is. taking it on The Shins and he may be uh. May Harbor and Wayne in the states what. happened let's just. say Legend we all know it yeah but. Wayne's American now yeah his leader his. leader initials are DT and J okay they. ain't they ain't. JT and that's coming out of Wade's B.

that's I think it's djt is what you're. saying whatever you know it's not just. JT it's don't know if he's a junior I. don't know how it works to bej TJ well. there is one of those I think exactly so. you never know I'm bad with initials and. stuff but sure he ain't he ain't looking. at the guy I didn't know wayo did that. uh-huh and then also when walked onto. the ice people weren't happy with him. because he basically said like let's go. boys let's go boys to all the Americans. and didn't really look towards the. Canadian well that's where the mat was. you. see but you don't have to say anything.

and then when you're taking that turn. you can say like here we [ __ ] go. bushed to the Canadians and then said he. didn't he just watched is that true. Gumpy that's not true at all that no no. no that's actually true yeah that's what. happened I'm not making that up at all I. mean he friends with everybody in hockey. he's the greatest hockey player of all. time I you guys lost wo as a Canadian Is. that real well turned on him not at all. turn on him after that they did yes we. can't just be labeling everybody. Canadian you know there is some. differences in countries here what okay.

so I think what you were trying to say. some stupid [ __ ] he was saying that not. everybody from Canada represents all. Canadians I think right is that what. you're saying dumy EXA okay I'll help. you out here ship painter okay this guy. grinder tough guy from Canada great. addition to our particular program maybe. Canada's greatest X well maple syrup. hockey's awesome that's fine we got our. own I mean their their leader does. represent Canada though and we know what. he no but I heard uh yeah I guess you're.

right I didn't think about that yeah but. then that that goes the other way for us. absolutely no doubt about. it we just got to make sure we think Hey. listen we all got more in common than we. think let shake shake. theirs let's go shake their HS it's all. sticky from no thanks yeah but it tastes. good does we add a little bit more sugar. to you guys' Maple start made it good I. was going to say it's no pearl Milling I. know that. mhm we took a little bit more sauce and. put it to hockey you know wait till you.

see what we do with curling I thought we. really had it there when curling Mighty. Hamilton took the gold medal from the. boys that was the only time people gave. people don't give a [ __ ] about it. anymore you know we won they kind of. just like all right you guys can have it. oh you think we just send them back. pretty much yeah all the curling rocks. retired the sport they created lacrosse. too right yes they did love that sport. Gumpy Canada has a lot of great things. let's never forget it right gumps. exactly like a hockey team that was more. healthy than the American team for the. four nations final uh we were pretty.

banged up too we lost some of our top. defenseman as well it's not for okay. well it must be nice to still have MC. Jesus on the ice whenever we don't got. ours Jesus's yeah so I mean people a lot. of people do say Charlie makoy was the. heart and soul was of that team actually. when you go look at the uh first can USA. game he put McDavid in a [ __ ] blender. absolutely buried him actually Brady. kachuck came off the ice he's miked up. he said I'm falling you into [ __ ]. battle today Charles see I think the. Canadians would say you dropped into our.

accent while doing the conversation. about America so that's a hockey accent. that's not a Canadian accent we got to. take it all like the Canadians create. great diction right great words bucket. let like what are you doing man I that's. what I'm saying I'm thinking we like I. think we're okay with can I think we're. okay with Canada are you doing this cuz. tomorrow yep I'm going can Bobby roode's. Canadian Bobby Roode is Canadian so. there's something it's gilberg so is. Pete who who founded the Canadian.

Destroyer believe Chelsea Green is. Canadian United States champion for yeah. so she's going to make a choice Pat. you're not wrong we we are fine with. Canada Canada is not fine with us though. yeah they booed our national anthem I. heard that oh yeah that I can't I forgot. what started this whole thing it was. that Kiana Reeves that's the only one. I'll go with everyone else he thanks. Bieber What's we can't talk Gosling's. Canadian what he's got stuff going on or. no I was thinking of the other Ryan he's. got stuff going on a lot of stuff going.

on with the who is Canadian he's also. Canadian yeah right yeah Canada's good. where do they come to. ACT I think everybody kind of makes. movies up in Canada now do Toronto. Toronto No actually that's not real. Goodwill Hunting was a lot of that was. filmed in Toronto I I don't believe that. for a second it yeah nope that's not. true hate to say that just fun fact I do. that's true what's your problem that's. mad that's mad not here t a color trying. to add a little context that's. completely wrong that's not true that's.

a great movie that's a great Boston. movie that's not. true filming took place between April. and June 1997 although the story set in. Boston and many of the scenes were shot. in the location of greater Boston air. many of the Interior sh. film Toronto yeah so rooms it's not like. they were using the landscape cuz it. stings what do we what the hell no they. wanted a little bit nicer they say. that's what they were saying Google hun. that's not what they were saying sorry. sorry the greatest they weren't allowed. to film in MIT cuz [ __ ] actually happens. yeah Bingo they can't use Harvard. because [ __ ] we're actually trying to.

solve [ __ ] yeah I'm sure yeah they are I. just found out they have universities in. Canada yeah they do they say uh. University of Walter I believe is up. there Walter yeah univ water is good. one so how thisy how's your schooling. work up there in Canada so you guys do. the same as us 12 grades exactly yeah. how come you guys didn't join us in. 1770 why didn't you guys just cuz. they're still loyal to the.

queen is that the queen king no actually. they actually fought Us in 1812 that's. the war of the 18 1812 yeah they sided. with England and tried to invade I. actually looked it up cuz I was going to. Tweet it they don't still pay taxes to. the queen and you you hear yourself what. you've been saying yeah but you got to. remember what Canada did for me. personally what going up there and yeah. I think they [ __ ] it is it true they. weren had a great time up there they wer. a country until like 1975 or something. like you had a great time down here too. see I have had a great time down here I.

but we what I'm saying is let go to. shake their H you guys can I'm staying. right here I'm with you brother well we. saw that red white and. blue not just red and white and it's not. for. you it's been a great week here we can't. thank you enough for joining us we're. going to get out of here I will be on. NFL Network I. think yeah who knows after Wednesday. we'll see that was a wild scene hey end. show about 2:45 come on Don come on down.

be at the end of the tail end of the. kicking field goal kicking session it'll. be electrifying and we get right into. the punters you're there microphone on. the field just like every other position. group you know has like X players on the. field be hosting get down there wasn't. even broadcasting nobody was filming. that there was not a single camera on. when I walk down there that seems like a. miscommunication that's going to happen. that's life but today in this place. communication is key what do you learn. about a prospect that makes you think to.

yourself you know I want that person to. be in our building what do you learn. about a player that makes you think you. know that guy can fit in on our football. field what about an undersized a little. too fat maybe a little bit too slow guy. what characteristics does he have deep. down in his soul and his plums that make. me believe that whenever he gets an NFL. jersey on and an opportunity to be in. the NFL and live his dreams he's going. to give his all to that he's not going. to [ __ ] it up that's what this is all. about and then when you watch these.

athletes run on the field what you're. seeing is humans do things that they. would have never even comprehended 20. years ago 30 years ago we might see. somebody run a 419 this. weekend. 40 That's 120 feet okay 419 from a stop. not allowed to be moving at they aing a. fly 40 this is from a dead stop this is. like cheetah type [ __ ] this is like uh. this is the fastest car you could get. from zero to Finish Line this is.

unbelievable what humans are capable of. and it's all on display this weekend all. the teams are looking to get better all. the players are looking to get drafted. and we're just trying to have a. fantastic weekend watching it all. enjoying it all and seeing who the hell. is going to win elimination chamber hell. we can't thank everybody enough for. allowing us to be a part of your. day-to-day we can't thank everybody. enough for rejoining us this week after. a two- week Hiatus I mean what an.

absolute that was the longest time it. feels so long being away it was maybe a. month it felt like that we weren't doing. this and every time there's like a. natural fear like once we stop nobody's. going to come back they're going to. watch other shows once again and say. yeah we're we're going to do this. they're going to say you know my life. was better without that dumbass show a. part of my life that is always the fear. that is always the anxiety so those of. you that have rejoined us we can't thank. you enough for those that are brand new. yeah this is how it goes at all of.

it going to get sued this is going to. happen this is going I mean this is the. this is the experience and uh we are. incredibly grateful for it all just like. I'm grateful for all the boys boys up. here great work this week good work to. the crew great work boys and girls great. work crew great work to the crew thank. you all so much from the lighting and. miking to the cameraing to the rigging. and building to OLED from Avon with the. LED board leg to zitto and Tim McAfee.

doing the moving of this whole thing to. foso being on an email chain since. December in making sure all the eyes are. dotted in tees are crossed we appreciate. you f to bruo having to do a little. moving bab you're the best brownie into. the truck great work boys work great. work truck just saw grigson walk by he. appears to be yeah he's 275 he's back oh. he's that big guy yeah he's the he's the. orangutan looking fell holy.

[ __ ] he's jacked hey he looks big guy. big boy it's like Andrew Whitworth kind. of I did thought that was it was nice. catching up with him last year at this. event chitchatting hearing some things. from his side allowing him to hear. things from my side and then boom bang. we move on a lot of mingling a lot of. talking and uh we're so lucky that we've. been here we'll see you on Monday it's. going to be a good one Matthew Stafford. staying with the Rams what happens with.

all the quarterbacks how about all these. draft prospects who pops this weekend. who drops this. weekend what are the story lines coming. out of Indianapolis from the Insiders. other than they just try to fight each. other at Starbucks. sure we shall see we'll be on it all all. right boys be a friend tell a friend oh. oh. oh big night. at is coming soon to Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania this is a uh show that I.

believe is unprecedented I would say so. yeah for sure mad Mel how what would. your descriptor be of big KN out after. what you know of it what you've heard of. it and everything like that oh I would. say I mean unprecedent it's a good word. it's it's a show that basically has. everything you could want in a show show. if you were going to show up to some. sort of event everything you could think. of it it will be involved big laughs big. singals big. giveaways Big Night Out coming soon to.

Pittsburgh Pennsylvania this one is. fascinating for me cuz I've always I've. wanted to do the show um for years I'd. say years literally I've been wanting to. do a show like this for years I think. it'd be good for people you know to just. kind of uh watch a spectacle take place. and to do that takes a lot of prep takes. a lot of planning takes a lot of. cashola and uh I think we're at a point. where it's going to be awesome and uh.

the people that are going to be a part. of it there's massive surprises I don't. even know how to I don't even know how. to describe the uh the surprises the. giveaway I mean you're talking I think. we're going to make somebody a. millionaire that night you know so like. there is I'm trying to make yeah it's. going to be a big night out and we can't. wait to get to Pittsburgh with that. being said be a friend tell a friend. something nice it might change their. life we're going to sing together okay. team on me team on three 1 2 3 team.

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