Pat McAfee's 2025 Draft Spectacular with Mike McCarthy | April 24th, 2025

GMs are running mock drafts with their. staff to see who could potentially be. available whenever it's their time to. pick on Thursday night as we have our. fourth annual fourth annual fourth. annual fourth annual Draft Spectacular. Our biggest show of the year except for. this year. 31 dreams will come true. How. many teams will be up with the [ __ ]. How many trades will be made? How many.

future Hall of Famers will have their. names called this evening? Oh [ __ ] No. way. The next pick is. I'll tell you what, 27 years in this. thing. I [ __ ] live for the draft. Please welcome from West Virginia. University, the 2014 Colts man of the. year and two time. We have a 7sec man of. America. Hello Nashville. I'm not going. to say a single word about the Tennessee. Titans record against the Indianapolis.

Colts because I was a punter and there's. no reason for me to talk about them. With that being said, we did not punt. much against the Tennessee Titans. So, you probably have no clue who I am to. begin. Keep your eyes closed. But. imagine that the pick in the 2024 draft. 15 years from now, this person's in the. Hall of Fame. Which team, what's that. number one team you were thinking of. saying? The Dolphins. The Dolphins. My. god. Come on.

As many of you know, a couple years ago. had a little bit of an outburst when the. Packers selected Jordan Love. Jordan. Love, quarterback, Utah State. Oh. no. Oh. no. Oh no. Walk it off. Von Walker, last [ __ ]. receiver the Packers took. No. two. Uh, good. God damn it. They're going to be on the clock here.

soon. So, I decided to saunter down. here. Uh, this is the biggest pick the. Green Bay Packers as a franchise will. have in the last 20 years. If they [ __ ]. this up, I'm going to walk up to the top. of the Power Light Building and I'm. going to dive head first off the top of. it and turn into a pile of pink mist. down on the street. So, uh, I don't. know. Good. Uh, the pressure's on. You. know, unless you want to come pick up my. bones and my goofy bloody body, then uh. I suggest we do the right thing here. We. don't know the pick. Yeah, I know. I do.

know the pick. I won't I won't [ __ ]. say it because I don't want to get. chastised by anyone from the NFL. [ __ ]. [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ]. I mean, it was skip rap for me. There's. no way this should be humanly possible. But what is impossible? It's I'm. possible. And whenever you're talking. about red panda, you're talking about. the biggest I'm in the history of I'm. possible. What she does every single. night is not supposed to happen. There's. no way you're supposed to be able to. accomplish this. AJ Hawk, what' you say? How many people can do this? None. Just.

red panda. Five bowls. [Applause]. [Music]. Something nice to somebody. Two years ago when I retired from the. Colts, I retired alongside two greats, Robert Matthysse and Joe Wrights. A. couple months later, I watched the. draft. Robert Matthysse announced the. pick, Joe Wrights announced the pick, and then an orangutan announced the.

fourth round draft pick. I was replaced. by a zoo animal. I was not upset about. it because the orangutan was terrible at. his job. You know what I'm wondering is. if the guy you had in your studio, Mad. Mel Kyper, I know that sorry son of a. [ __ ] didn't have this week plugged in. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Uh, I just. played it. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. You're a sack of [ __ ] [ __ ] lap, Mel. You suck. Your boots on the ground in. Kansas City and you don't know [ __ ] from.

apple butter. You [ __ ] suck, pal. Piss off. You lose. I win. I'm the king. You're a [ __ ] court guesser. You suck. and you know it. Hey, ease up on the. [ __ ] Gator Tales, pal. [ __ ] you. You're a piece of [ __ ] Glazer. Yes, I. did. I had this. Oh, no you didn't. I. had this. I had it. Trust me. Can I talk. for Christ's sake? Okay, fine. Fine. Yeah. Can I talk? Okay. Yeah. Like I. said, Kyle Pittz. No, you didn't. You. didn't. Yes, I did.

Probably the most interesting trade was. a Randy Moss trade. After the draft, the. first day of the draft, we've been. trying to trade for Randy Moss for two. months. All like child birth. I mean, it's took forever. After the first day. of draft, I talked to Mr. Davis. I said, "Are we going to make a steal or not?". And he said, "Yeah, we'll do it. We'll. do it for your fourth." And I think we. were picking like seventh in the fourth. round. I said, "Well, we got to get the. guy for a physical. We can't take his. contract. We're going to have to. renegotiate his contract." And Mr. Davis. said, "Well, that's your problem. You. want to trade for him, then you get it. done." I said, "All right." Said, "Okay." Hung up the phone. This is like. 11:30 at night, right after the first.

day of the draft. I call up Randy. Hey, Randy, it's Coach Belic. Boom. Hangs up. the phone. What? Let me try this again. Randy, it's Coach Felch. Who is this? Who's pranking me? Who is this? B. Hangs. up the phone. Randy, this is Coach. Belche. Who traded for you? What? Is. this a joke? This better not be a joke. Who is this? No, no, no, no. Really? I. said, yeah, but look, we got to get this. done by tomorrow at noon. He goes, "All. right, what do I need to do?" I said, "You need to come up, take a physical, and we need to renegotiate your. contract." It's by noon. Yeah. Go, "Well, I'm in Houston now, but I got a.

plane. I'll be there." He flies and he's. there at 8:00 in the morning. Comes in. and takes the physical. You know the old. uh make sure okay you're good. renegotiate the contract we're done at. 10 o'clock. And first thing he says to. me is where's the playbook right here? We got it. Let's go. He said okay. because when I walk out there with the. first team with Brady I got to know all. the plays on this post safety coverage. What are you going to do? He goes coach. you ain't going to see any post safety. coverage against me. 25 touchdowns. Mad. Mel Kyper has a question for you. He was. looking for it. Who the hell is Mad Mel?

Who the hell is Mad Mel? Oh, has the guy. ever wore a jock strap? Ever worn a jock. strap, but I've sniffed plenty of them, so I know what's going on with these. players. Okay. Are you considering maybe. moving back up into the first round. after this pick and kind of filling out. your roster with one of those guys who I. suggested you take in in order to kind. of take the Colts over that hump and get. you back into the playoff? Well, I. wouldn't tell you if we were. First. thing, thank you, Chris. Go to hell, man. First and foremost, Pat, I'd like. to say, hey, listen. Thanks for having.

me. Cleveland is beautiful this time of. year. Granted, it does smell like a. mixture of poop and diarrhea and sewage. It doesn't smell great down here. All. right, I was getting in here, you six of. them, we have almost two hours. Hold it. Hold it. Oh, don't drop it. I dropped it. It says Brock. Oh, [ __ ] right away. These guys are. Bears. Caleb Williams Commanders Jaden. Daniel Patriots Drake May Cardinals.

Marvin Harrison Jr. Chargers Joe Giants. Malid Neighbors Titans JC Laam Michael. Penn Jr. Roma Vikings from Jets with the. Jets. What? JJ McCarthy Jets from. Vikings. Olu Fanu Broncos. Bo Nicks. And then the 13 pick. Oh my. god. Bowers to the taped on his chest. since 757. Bo Nicks. Bo Nick quarterback. for the Broncos. Congrats to Bo overall.

Billing Shawn Payton right now. We were. there for the proday and then our. private workout was the following day. We threw 80 more balls. The first sign. of an inaccurate quarterback is when. you're throwing these shorter routes. because the ball's got to be on the. right shoulder. It's a little bit easier. down the field to stretch the ball and. maybe hide your accuracy deficiencies. It was impressive. I just remember we. got in the car afterwards and I just. looked around and I said, "Are you. kidding me?" How long had it been, Jaden? And what was the process like to. get to this number two overall pick for.

you? It was a process. I learned this. from the guy next to you. Being. processoriented, we wanted to get. through everything before we actually. settle on a decision. But we knew this. one for a long time. Pat, I have so much. respect for you and of course never done. very well against you, but I've always. loved competing against you. You add a. lot to the game. You're great for the. league and look forward to seeing you. play this year and not coaching against. you. Thank you, coach. That had to feel. damn good. Everybody's the goat. You. know, this guy's a goat, that guy's a. goat. It should be reserved for the. very, very few who actually are the. greatest of all time. And Bill, I want. to embarrass you, but you are the goat.

Hell yeah, Bill. I always appreciate. Bill and I have had a ton of times where. in 8 seconds we could do a trade or not. do one. I think it's harder with a lot. of these younger GMs. As we get older, there's less people that maybe you feel. like that you could pick up the phone. and call. So, we certainly miss you. during this time period. Appreciate it, Sean. Ton of respect for you. Congratulations. [ __ ] I thought you two. would have buried the hat. You got to be. [ __ ] kidding me. What happened? Jesus. Christ. Some [ __ ] in a Toyota came by. and just [ __ ] splashed me. $6,000. suit and I smell like a [ __ ] wet dog.

Now, we need to make sure that this. guy's going to be comfortable here as. the potential face of our franchise. I. can't even take you seriously some. You're going to see this one, two, boom. That is what you're going to see over. and over and over again. Absolutely. explosive. The thing that really takes. it over the top, Jesus [ __ ] Christ. The thing that really takes it over the. top if he wears that Verizon visor.

underneath his. helmet of a [ __ ] mad get it together. The following program is a collection of. stooges talking about happenings in the. sports world. It is meant to be comedic. informative. The opinions expressed on. this show do not necessarily reflect the. beliefs of their peers, their boss or. ESPN. There may be some cuss words.

because that's how humans into the real. world talk. If you are a young, please. seek permission before watching any. further. [Music]. Hello beautiful people and welcome to. Green Bay, Wisconsin. You're looking at Lambo Field in the. legendary G that is synonymous with the. sport of American football. The greats. have played here. The story of the NFL. has been told here. And tonight, dreams.

will come true as Green Bay, Wisconsin. is the host of the sixth annual Draft. Spectacular, which begins in five, four, 3, two, one. NFL draft. We're live here. I'm not 100% sure these people can hear.

what we're saying. There are no speakers. out to them because the speakers are. coming from that massive stage on the. other side of this parking lot. We are. sitting here literally feet away from. the greatest traditional stadium in the. history of professional sports. Lambeau. Field, the home of the Green Bay Packers. and the Green Bay Packers fan base that. has been around for generations and. generations.

They're streaming go pack go and tonight. we'll be cheering for 32 young men whose. dreams will come true as they become NFL. players and drafted to some team. somewhere. There's supposed to be a lot. of activity. There's supposed to be a. lot of action and we'll be talking about. it all. It's not just me. Obviously, the. toxic table is here at Boston Connor and. at Mad Mel Kyper. Yes, they do. Matt Mel, the fans are. chanting that the Bears still suck. The.

Bears might suck, but the draft does. not. How do you feel tonight here in. Green Bay, Wisconsin? Well, it's an. absolutely electric environment, Pat. Obviously, uh, you know, for my money, the draft should be in Green Bay every. single year at the birthplace of. football. What an environment. Let's. see. I think we're going to get a lot of. fireworks tonight. That's what a lot of. people are saying. Boston Connor, what. does that mean? fireworks in your eyes, especially as a Patriots fan with the. fourth overall number pick. Patriots F4. are going to reset their franchise. They're going to go to new heights. Super Bowl is going back again. But I'm.

not sure if anything good's going to. happen. Let's keep our expectations low. Roger Goodell just showed up on the. stage on a bicycle, you know, because. the pre-season tradition at training. camp, the Green Bay Packers ride bikes. to practice. This place is booing his. ass out of town. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Big night here for the. draft. for Roger Goodell already getting. booed. Huge night. Huge night. The crowd. is electric. They showed up. They're. going to show out. And uh everybody that. I'm talking to is saying we should. expect some fireworks. So, I'm excited.

about this first round, man. I can't. wait to get underway. I believe Lil. Wayne just showed up on a bicycle as. well uh for the Big Brothers Big Sisters. uh local foundation here in Green Bay. It's a beautiful start to the draft. Mason Crosby also over there, kicker for. the Green Bay Packers. Legend. Um, also. here, Green Bay Packers legend, the. all-time leading tackler in Green Bay. Packer history, AJ Hawk is here. Oh yeah. AJ, has it been great to be.

back here in Green Bay in front of these. people? Yeah, this is like like Matt. Mill said, this is where the draft. should be every single year, man. These. people get it. Yeah, it's pretty. impressive, man. This is where football. was invented pretty much. And obviously the crowd are big AJ Hawk. fans. How could you not be? The guy. tackled more people here than anybody in. the history of Packers. And they've been. tackling people here for a long, long. time. I wonder how they'll react to a. man who is a Super Bowl winning coach.

for the Green Bay Packers. Back home, I. believe, is how a lot of people have. been talking. Coach Mike McCarthy is. here. Gary, love me. Gary Yinszer for sure. But it feels like your heart is in Green. Bay, Wisconsin. And uh getting a chance. to watch you experience your little. welcome home here has been an honor. And.

thank you for joining us here tonight in. Green Bay. Well, thank you for having. me. I'm been really enjoying being with. the crew here. Uh we've had we've had a. good couple days, but uh we're just. getting started. Well, I just can't say. enough about coming back home. This has. been um super cool. Frankly, over. overwhelming. So, well, thanks for. having me. No problem. And overwhelming, you say. I think it's all warranted and. earned and deserved. Uh it's not just us. on the stage here tonight. Obviously, we. have a chance to have a guy a part of. our crew who's addicted to the NFL.

draft. Live from the draft cave, one. half of the. hammer Cowboys AP Tone in the draft. game. tone. Um, obviously this is a. night that you look forward to all year. long. How do you feel looking ahead to. the next 4 hours or so? Yeah, the draft. is the best, Pat. I mean, I'm a huge. college football fan, huge NFL fan. So, this is kind of the culmination of both. things. You see the N or the college. football guys that you rooted for. getting drafted by your favorite NFL. team potentially. And then also, the.

draft can change your team for all of. history. 21 years ago today, the. Steelers drafted Ben Rothberger. That. brought us three Super Bowl appearances, two Super Bowl championships. that could. happen tonight for a team that could. bring you happiness for the next 20. years and that's kind of what we're. looking for tonight. I love to hear that. and every team thinks that tonight is. going to be a pivotal moment as Clay. Matthews is getting the crowd jacked up. here. You talk about a legendary draft. pick for a team in Green Bay here. He. looks amazing as do all the boys up. there representing for the Green Bay. Packers. Also in the draft cave tonight.

is a man that should not be on our show. And I say that with all due respect to. this man. He is the draft guy. The fact. that he's not on ABC or ESPN and the. fact he's on our show is a travesty. I I. think because of how damn good he is and. how plugged in he is. Thank you so much. In the draft game cave next to AP Tone, ESPN analyst Peter Shreger. Come on, guys. I am so fired up. It's my favorite.

night of the year. I'd rather be here. than the Super Bowl than the opener and. the kickoff. I love the draft. And my. phone is already alive. I think we're. going to get some action up at the top. Hey Pat, thanks for having me. Couldn't. be happier. Let's go. Oh yeah, you're. damn right. I like you took your jacket. off just to vest, you know, a little bit. casual but professional. It's a big time. night. Shreds, you just alluded to it. there. I think there's been rumors all. day that there's going to be a lot of. fireworks. Connor said it. Deep said it. I think Matt Mel said it. I think we're. all hearing it. What does that mean? Is. that a lot of trades, trades, or what is.

the thought here? We could have a trade. at the top. Nothing has been done yet. You saw Jake Glazer's tweet perhaps. online. The Jaguars are a team that's. been looking around to go front back, but I reported on ESPN on Monday. I came. on Get Up with Greeny. I said, "Hey, the. Browns and the Giants, their phone lines. are open at 2 and three." Now, the. Titans Pat, they told everybody, "We're. not listening. Cam's our guy. We're. moving right along." The Browns did not. say that. The Giants did not say that. Is there a Godfather deal to move up in.

the draft to either two or three? Phone. lines are open. Nothing official yet, but know that there are calls being. made. Okay, Matt Mel, what does that. mean to you? What does that mean? You. only one team has solidified. Could be. the biggest or most amount of question. marks we've had since covering the. draft. Yeah, without a doubt. But, uh, I. actually think there might be a sleeper. team. I think there might be a sleeper. team that not even Shrags has heard. about. Listen, everybody knows, you. know, this this is Green Bay, okay? The. Packers are sitting at the back half of. the draft. Obviously, very late. 23rd.

pick or so. Listen, I'm I'm kind of. reading the tea leaves a little bit. Don't discount maybe the Packers jumping. up into the top 10, kind of shaking. things up a little bit for the fans. here. That would be a wild move. Coach. Mike McCarthy, let's talk about some of. these teams potentially trading back. I. believe we've talked to you over the. last 24 hours. That's not a move that. you hate. You you don't mind going back. a little bit. Why do you think at the. top they're thinking about that 23 and. what do you think is a hall that they. could potentially get? Well, I think the. biggest thing is everybody puts so much. into these boards and they're looking. away, you know, their personal needs are.

and where they think the different. positions are we're going to follow. I've always been a fan of going back I. know my first year in Green Bay 0607 I. think we had 10 11 12 picks each year. and that's really the basis of your. football team where you get a lot of. depth and so forth. So I think as these. guys, you know, the amount of work that. goes into this, this is a huge night for. the whole organization. But going back. to me, I've always felt served the. roster development component very well. Okay. I love that. I love to hear that. Now, I know as we go through the night,

some picks are going to be made by teams. and we are just going to be peppering. you with questions. So Oh, yeah. We. appreciate the hell out of you, coach. Uh let's go back to that draft cave. Tone two, three, four potentially open. Uh, is that because of the superstars at. the top of this and maybe the lack of. quarterbacks at the top of the draft? AP. Tone? Yeah, definitely. I mean, there's. uh all the guys are talking about, you. know, there's there's is this a starter, not a star draft, but there are some. stars, one being Abdul Carter, one being.

Travis Hunter, one being Ashton Genty, and then if you depending on who you. talk to, Tyler Warren, guys like that. So in a in a draft where it's so. starheavy in the first two three picks. with just those guys and then you're. looking at more starters there's teams. that definitely would want to go up. there and get those stars in Travis. Hunter Abdul Carter Ashton Genty and. then you know guys five through 25 5. through 30 you know they have similar. grades so it's a situation where teams. if they want to make a huge splash. they're going to go up and try to get. one of those guys. Tres when did Cam. Ward become the solidified number one.

for the Tennessee Titans you think? And. uh why do you think that was so easily. decided after the draft process began, but at the beginning there was like. there's no clear number one quarterback. Let me give you a little story time. Going back to the combine, they bring. him in for a meeting. And Cam Ward, they. surprise him and I think coach will love. this with a tape of his worst plays of. his college career. All the worst [ __ ]. that he did in college. And they said, "Okay, explain all of it." He didn't shy. away. He had an answer. He had an.

explanation for everything. It was the. worst of the worst. He took full full. blame for any bad play, but also. explained what could have done right and. where the communication went wrong. They. then Pat went to San Antonio, Texas to. speak with everyone at Incarnate Word, where he started his journey. 7,500 kid. school down there in San Antonio. The. Titans brass went down there and did an. investigation process and it came back. as clean as it could be. Did the same up. in Pullman at Washington State and then. went down to Miami. The last stage of it.

was his visit to Nashville. And I'm. told, not only did he impress everyone. in the seauite and Miss Amy and the. whole deal, this dude went across, tried. to meet everyone in the equipment room, tried to meet everyone in the cafeteria, introduced himself. They love the. player. They love the kid. And this is. not one of these big marketing machine. with the agent and the brand and this. and that. No, this is a kid who just. wants to ball and was a zero star. recruit out of high school who started. his path at Incarnate Word. Let's go.

Okay, we love everything about that. story. And uh coach Mike McCarthy, you. hear Peter Shreger talking about the. interviews and all the behind thescenes. stuff that's taking place because this. is a multi-million dollar decision. Right. I don't talk like that. Oh, Christ, you're killing me. But uh. hey uh I I think the I love all the. points that Peter made cuz you know. that's the thing about it when you bring. you bring the recruits in or the. prospects in you go out and talk to them. everybody that they touch is is part of.

that process. So I I thought the points. that that were made are so important you. know whether it's the security director. the people in the cafeteria all that all. that all that factors in because you you. know at the end of the day the hardest. thing to evaluate is the EQ the. emotional is am I okay? Yes. Yes. um it that goes involved in that. So the. exposure, but uh you're good. You're good, coach. I was I was talking to Zento and Foxy to. show the hugs that Cam Ward was getting.

in the green room while it was all. taking place of Mario Crystalall while. you were talking there. But everything. you're talking about, I think as. players, AJ, we want good dudes in a. locker room. Like that is literally the. number one thing as a teammate. That's. the number one thing I care about. I. assume they're going to be able to play. football now. Yeah, exactly. We've seen. what they can do on the field, right? Like when you know you're bringing in a. franchise dude who's going to be the. face of your program forever. I mean, you can't do enough due diligence, I. think, to make sure that that person is. is going to be the leader. But we hear. that buzz word culture all the time. Like what does that mean? Like how it.

means you bring in good dudes that are, you know, they live well on and off the. field and they they take take care of. each other and they're accountable to. their teammates. Coach, is that was that. your culture, I assume? What is your. culture that you try to instill? Oh, definitely. I mean, you can't have. enough good football players. number. one, but at the end of the day, it's a. connection. It's a connection that. builds continuity where the ultimate. confident comes to be successful in team. sport. Yeah. You were talking about that. Green Bay Packers team that won a Super. Bowl. You're talking about that group. being tight. Oh, yeah. No doubt. I mean, I I think what that team went through to. win a Super Bowl doesn't get enough. credit. Um, you know, when you get into.

this roster development, you know, I. always go back to that team, 77 players. it took to win that championship. So. with all them injuries, so at the end of. the day, core guys like AJ and that. defense in particular kept us in every. game and then we got going at the end of. the year. But yeah, you have to have. that if you if you're going to win a. championship in this league, D. But I. want my team playing cards with each. other. Absolutely. Legit. I think that. is like the most important part of this. entire thing. If guys like each other, they're going to play better together. And one thing that stuck out about me. about uh Cam Ward is his coach. When you.

hear his coach Chris Ball talk about. him, the leader that he is, the alpha. that he is when he walked in the room, every step that he took up, he played. better, he was more productive. And we. talk about culture and great guys that. starts at home. You know, for the most. of the guys that I played with and his. parents, great group of parents haven't. missed one game in his football career. and they plan on keeping that streak. going in the NFL, man. So, that's. awesome. We have some breaking news here. early. We talked about fireworks. Adam. Shfter has just tweeted that the. Jacksonville Jaguars are trading up to. number two. Wow. Uh the Browns are.

trading the number two overall pick, a. fourth round pick, and a sixth round. pick to the Jags. The Jags are trading. the number five overall pick, a second. round pick, number 36, and a fourth. round pick, and their 2026 first round. That's a hole. I feel like that's a lot. What does that mean, coach? That means. they really like somebody at number two. They're new coach, new GM. Totally. I. think it's awesome. Number one, I mean, how can you not love Travis Hunter? I. mean, I think Okay, so that's what. you're thinking. Well, we don't know. Oh, hey. Hey, coach. Maybe he does. He.

did his research. You did your research. That's what I think it is. I mean, you. know, but uh no, I I think number one, you know, these scouts and these. organizations put so much into this. process and, you know, they they're. sitting there ready to make these moves. So, um I I don't think you can look at. how much they gave, but I think you got. to give them a lot of respect that they. identified someone that they want to go. up there and get. So I I think that's a. great move by them. Always do. And. whether you know same thing if you're. going back or going forward, you just. got to trust your board. Coach, when do. you think they Sorry. When do you think.

they started working on this trade? Like. could this have come up in the last hour. or is this something that's been going. on? No, I I think I think the. preparation of it, you know, definitely. be going on. I mean, it could be a week, it could be four weeks, you know, it. depends on the personalities and the. people involved. when that happens, you. you just said people involved like in. Dallas or when you're in Green Bay, if. something like this did come across, whether you're trading back or up, does. the GM, Jerry, or the GM when you were. with Green Bay, do they say like, "Hey, we're we're going to move back. Hey, we're going to move up or is it kind of. like what do you think about moving back.

or up?" I mean, Green Bay and Dallas, their operations are similar in certain. ways, but obviously different. particularly when you talk about the. leadership group. But I I would say. clearly I mean there is a tight tight. communication you know group cuz you. know obviously you don't want Peter. [Laughter]. Schm there. I mean so it's been that's. no fun. We watch we watch the uh we. watch it happen. Cam Ward has officially. been selected number one to the. Tennessee Titans. Welcome to AFC South. Cam. Okay. Welcome to AFC South. Him and.

Roger Goodell had a very easy, gentle. meet and greet, which is uh maybe a tone. setter for the rest of the evening. Roger Goodell getting a little older, had that back surgery, did a hug, not. that crazy of a go-to. Um let's go down. to the draft cave. Uh Shreger Travis. Hunter, why Jacksonville's moving. offensive guy and Liam Cohen. Obviously. Gladstone comes from the McVey operation. le Theo. Do we assume that's Travis. Hunter or what are the thoughts? I. believe it will be for Travis Hunter. I. don't have that confirmed 100% but that. is the expectation. And I would note.

this for Browns fans. Paul D Podesta, moneyball guy, Cleveland Browns trade. back. They might not be done trading. back. They have a lot of pieces they. need to add. And they look at a chess. board here. Let's collect some picks. Let's keep making moves. This is the. draft to do that. And if you didn't land. Hunter and you didn't leave and you. didn't land Carter, you might as well. keep on piling up, piling up, piling up, piling up. Cleveland Browns, they might.

be in that business if you're looking at. the Paul D. Podesta moneyball style that. has been employed for years in baseball. AP Tone, we think Travis Hunter is. obviously going to play wide receiver. with a package down there. What does. your film study say about Travis Hunter? I mean, Travis Hunter first and. foremost, off the off the field, everyone says he is just like by far all. about straight ball. All he cares about. is ball. watching film, hanging out, working out, getting better. So, off the. field, you know, you're getting like a. hundred out of a hundred character guy. And then on the field, like we've talked.

about, he is a oneofone generational. player. We use that word too often, but. not for Travis Hunter. He is definitely. a generational player. He averaged 111. snaps a game. Okay, 111. The next. closest guy was 85. So, it's about 30. more snaps a game than the second place. guy in college football. obviously the. best corner in football, the best wide. receiver in football. Everyone says he'd. be number one on their board for corner. or wide receivers. If the Jags are. taking him here, they are getting an. absolute stud and the Heisman Trophy.

They're going down to. D Mad Mel Travis Hunter number two. overall pick to Jacksonville. We all. assume. What was your draft uh analysis. on him? Obviously had Travis Hunter very. very high up on my board. But I would. just like to make a little caveat to. what Shrag said about, you know, Paul D. Podestessa and the Browns. The only. reason they have to play Moneyball is. because Jimmy Hasslam gave out the worst. [ __ ] contract in the history of NFL. But but that's beside the point. Travis. Hunter obviously a dog both ways. I. wouldn't necessarily call it a red flag.

Some people a little worried that, you. know, hey, is this guy too focused on. the Fortnite? You know, is he focusing. enough? Well, that's, you know, a. discussion for a different day. Coach, curious. Do you think this guy can play. both ways in the NFL? We're not playing. in the Big 12 anymore. We're not playing. That's a good lead. It is. All I'm. saying is he's not lining up. He's not. lining up against any rum dums from Iowa. State anymore. Okay. Some other guys, coach, can he go both ways in the NFL? Absolutely. Cuz he cuz the the. information is there. I mean, he's done. it. I I think number one when you look.

at his grade, I would love to know what. his grade is on the on the on the. historical boards, you know, as far as. all time to see to see a young man. that's rated top five in both as a. corner and receiver and also have. returnability. You're talking about a. four down player from both sides of the. ball. I think I mean that how do you. manage that? Huh? How do you manage. that? Is it packages? Do you do that? Definitely. I mean that's that that's. you know that that's something you got. to start. I think you definitely you. start that way because hey just okay. maybe it doesn't work out. It gets to be.

too much. Okay, maybe he plays just. corner. Well, all those reps at receiver. I mean it's only going to help him be. better at corner. So I I I think this is. a great selection. I mean he's got to be. one of the highest rated players. What. is the score out of? Is there like a. total score number that all teams have. or what is it? No, everybody puts a. final grade, you know, on a player and. it, you know, and it has it has the. value, but you look at the historical. grades. What was AJ's whenever you guys. drafted another father? Historical historical. It would be.

historical, Dun, if somebody was able to. play both ways full time. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. No, I mean, this is I mean, when when when have you ever talked. about a guy like Travis? Never. Never. Yeah. I mean, never. We've had guys. sprinkle on obviously prime time Deion. Sanders. you know, Seawwood, Champ. Bailey, those guys, especially on a. collegiate level. I think uh what like. uh Tone said, you know, off the field, he's a 10 out of 10 guy. He's all. football. You can tell that he's a. smart, smart guy. He knows the ball, but. taking care of his body would be the. biggest challenge if it is Travis Hunter.

up here playing both ways. As Roger. Goodell heads to the podium, celebrate. the 32 young men entering the NFL. I'm honored to take a moment to. recognize a player who's made a profound. impact on and off the field. Can't believe the Walter Payeyton NFL. Man of the Year award presented by. Nationwide. Smart. Good move. recognizes. one player each year who best represents. greatness and compassion both on and off. the field and in the community. Hell.

yeah. Tonight we are proudly joined by. the 2024 Walter Payeyton NFL Man of the. Year, Eric Armstead. Hell yeah. Good work, Eric. B. Thought. we were making a pick here, but. certainly making the world better at the. time. First off, Duo. Nobody from Jacksonville here. Yeah, I. like that though. That's why I like. that. This is a lot of Green Bay fans.

Connor, we were driving around town. here. Yeah, this is different than. anything I've ever seen before. And I've. played here and we took a bus ride in. We took a ride at the Ace Hardware. Downer. We go down a few blocks and then. all of a sudden Lambo pops up out of. nowhere. There's houses here. Looks like. it's down in Greenfield down there. But. it is it is really like that. Oh, you. are heavy. Cars parked all front yards. out here. I mean, it was an insane scene. in Green Bay. I would recommend it to. anybody cuz it feels like it's a game. day. I assume this is what game day is. like. I would recommend this experience.

to anybody. It is awesome out here. Yeah. So cool. And and you know, we. started with the entire show with that. opening drone shot. Green Bay Lambo. there is that kind of aura to it, but. it's a football town, you know, like. last year we were in Detroit. It's a. city. It's a little different. It's not. the same. Like we are in a town that is. dedicated to football. You know, you. mentioned the the people out every. single house, you know, 100 bucks, 85. bucks for park and a bunch of small. businesses. You love that. But also just. everyone being bought in to the team. You know, look out here. It's all.

Packers fans. Last year in Detroit, it. was sprinkled. There's a few different. people from different teams. You know, of course, a lot of Lions fans, but. still all dedicated to the pack. Earlier. they played the Go Pack Go music. That's. unbelievable. I don't know if I've ever. actually heard the Go Pack Go with the. little tune they play with it. I loved. that. But it is sweet being kind of like. a college town almost just dedicated to. football. New England's kind of like. that with Foxboro and Gillette, but. something like this, it's it's next. level. It's going to be a night that uh.

Travis Hunter is going to remember. forever. The Jacksonville Jaguars gave. up a haul as he makes his way to the. stage. Clean Jack. Clean pink fit. Do we. have it? He's pumped up. Down to Duvall. Florida. boy stand in Florida. Love that. Great skip there. Athlete. There he is. There he is. ESPN had a. great shot of him skipping down the. hallway putting a hat on. NFL Network. here waiting for him to get out. Travis.

Hunter, one of the greatest athletes in. the history of ball, has officially been. drafted to Jacksonville, Florida. Congratulations, Travis Hunter, getting. number two overall. The thought of Liam. Cohen, first year head coach, offensive. guy, uh, play color. GM Gladstone, who looks like he's 12. years old, them making this big of a. play tells the fans, too, I think, that. they're, you know, fully invested. We.

want to make a splash especially in. Jacksonville with how they've been Matt. Mel. Yeah, without a doubt. You lose a. couple receivers. You know, a lot of. people, you know, pre-draft saying, "Hey, Ashen Janty, that's going to be. the guy they're moving up and maybe. they're moving on from Travis Etien.". And obviously you they got to figure out. whatever they can do to get, you know, Trevor Lawrence back on track. He needs. to be the guy that he was supposed to. be. You get a guy like Travis Hunter, [ __ ] that's not a bad start for, you. know, uh, Cohen and Jimbo Gladstone. Let's go down to Draft Cave AP Tone. Travis Hunter officially a Jacksonville. Jaguar in Shrags. How did we get here?

Unbelievable that this thing might have. been already in place before we even. started today. There were conversations. being had. I came on Get Up on Monday. over on ESPN. I started the week by. saying Cleveland's phone lines are open. They were. And here comes Jimmy. Gladstone, 34 years old, slick as it. gets, making a huge swing. And if you. listen to his quotes at his general. manager press conference, he said, "I. will not be timid. This is not a timid. move. My small Travis Hunter story for. you guys. I worked with Charles Woodson. over at Fox. Charles Woodson spoke to.

the team when the Colorado played UCF in. Orlando. Okay, speaks to the team. Fine. Travis Hunter and him start talking. Travis Hunter then went to Charles. Woodson's kids game that Friday night. because he wanted to just watch ball and. talk more with Woodson. This guy loves. the craft of football. And for as much. as we talked about this Colorado program. and how it was a lot of flash and all. that, his favorite thing to do, he just. wants to go fishing and chill and be. with his friends and play video games, this guy's about the right stuff. And I.

got to tell you, Jacksonville, I'm. talking to those guys now, they are over. the moon. Liam Cohen's bumped up AP. Tone. Why do you think that's the case? Well, he is. And because you get a guy. like Travis Hunter in there and you. talked about pairing him to, you know, make the life easy for the quarterback. Trevor Lawrence. Like they they got an. absolute steal last year in Brian Thomas. Jr. He was he was what they get him at. like 18 19 whatever it was and he he. became out he's an automatic number one. white out so then you pair him with. Travis Hunter so he doesn't have to. automatically come in and be the number. one so he could be the number two and he.

could also play defense I I feel like. it's a literally the perfect. there's a chant out here happening that. the Cowboys suck and uh obviously I. don't think that's the most fair thing. to happen to coach Michael Carth he's. not there anymore that's okay nothing. but respect for Dallas in the last 24. hours he has made that very evident to. us that he still loves Dallas Cowboys. and everybody at Dallas. So even though. the fans are saying the Cowboys suck, we. would like it to reiterate and hammer. home classy here does not hate the. Dallas Cowboys understands that. business. Uh how' you hear everything.

you just heard there about Travis Hunter. make you think about anything coach? Yeah, definitely. I I think the biggest. thing is you know four down player on. both sides of the ball. I mean you talk. about dynamic you sit there I mean when. you get to the end of the week and. you're you're putting together your 48. man roster. I mean, you talk about reps. and I'm this guy something like I mean. I've never had a player like this and we. had Charles but Charles the defensive. player of the year but but to have a. young man that can make an impact and I. thought the point was made that he. doesn't have to be the number one. receiver I think I think that's a great.

point so he can play in the flow of two. receiver sets, three receiver sets and. then and get him going because I think. they're definitely going to want him on. the field, you know, for every snap as a. corner. Matt Mel mentioned getting. Trevor Lawrence some help, doing. whatever to help him out. I wouldn't be. surprised if they get back here and get. another playmaker in the back field. You. talk about me moving on from ETN. He. hasn't been healthy. Hasn't been as. dynamic dynamic. But Travis Hunter, what. impressed me most is his instincts, his. special spatial awareness on both sides.

of the ball, defensively and offensive. You saw him stick his hand there on that. big fumble uh on the goal line. You. don't expect a player like that playing. both sides built the way he is to make. that type of play. those uh reaction. plays in zone coverage and playing at. the quarterback, showing high, breaking. low, making the diving catches, unbelievable ball skills will be a. tremendous payoff on both sides of the. football. Football IQ through the roof. I think that's why Prime loved him so. much. And obviously he and Prime worked. together and worked very closely. He. took Travis in as like his kid almost. And uh the New York Giants were on the.

clock and their pick is in. Let's go to. Roger Goodell. 2025 NFL draft. The New York Giants. select Abdul. Carter, defensive end, Penn State. Okay, so the New York Giants add to an. incredible defensive line. Coach Mike. McCarthy, we talked to you. You said. feel like you need four ones at the. Dline position in the modern NFL. Is. that still what you mean? And what do. you see out of Abdul Carter that maybe. remind you of Micah from a few years.

back at Penn State? Yeah, definitely. I. mean, obviously a ton of similarities, but I think his his pass rush and his. ability just jumps off the tape. But you. look at this snap right here that we got. up there, you know, with his ability to. beat a a double team on the tight inside. zone, you know, playing off the ball. I. mean, really Clay Matthews was the first. guy that we ever had as far as as a pass. rusher and then moving him back and. playing him off the ball. Obviously, we. did that with Micah in Dallas, too. So. great flexibility, meet his starter, and. I think as you sit here and watch him, he's going to be getting the attention.

from offensive protection units. He's. going to be getting chipped right away. because I mean, he is a dynamic rusher. They got sexy Dexi there, too. Absolutely. They got four ones. You got. burners, you got Kavon, you got sexy. Dexi, and now you got Abdul Carter. He's. a guy that you expect from day one to be. able to change the math, especially on. passing downs. And most of these games, most of these big games come down to. two-minute drives. come down and get the. stop or making a play on offense. When. you got guys that you can get a fourman. pass rush on, that is unbelievable. And.

you can't account for where they're. going to be. You don't know where. they're going to line up. Like I think. that's the story of this whole draft. with the defenders. They're so. versatile. You have a lot of guys that. came in, played two years off the ball, all of a sudden they they go up and. they're edge rushers and they get 11 12. sacks. That's not an easy thing to do. That's two completely different. positions. He had a foot and a shoulder. allegedly played through everything. Let's go down to the draft cave. AP. tone. Abdul Carter was the clear number. one defensive guy on the board outside. of obviously Travis Hunter. Yes, he was. And the thing I love about Abdul Carter. is and AJ just talked about it there. So, he comes in 2022, he's a freshman.

all-American. He's playing off the ball. 2023 all Big 10. He's playing off the. ball. That's because they had guys on. the outside. This year, 2024, it's his. first year strictly playing DN and he. becomes, you know, the best DN in the. country, the best defensive player in. the country, and he got better and. better every single year. Um, obviously, where's number 11? You guys talked about. the the comparisons to Michael Parsons. My favorite thing about him is four of. his five highest pressure games and best. sack games were against ranked teams. So, he showed up when it mattered the. most. But yeah, big time player in big.

time spots against the best competition. Yeah, Abdul Carter's a stud. Okay. Uh. let's go to Peter Shaker down in the. draft cave. Peter, hey, I thought they. were drafting a quarterback. I thought. it was going to be uh Shidor. I thought. the Giants were going QB. still could. happen, I guess. And when did they make. this decision about Abdul Carter, you. think at three? This has been in the. works for a while. They were never. taking Shadore at three. I'm not sure. where all that came from for the last. several weeks. Uh, and it wasn't going. to be Jackson Dart either. It was always.

going to be Hunter Carter once they knew. they couldn't get Cam Ward. Uh, I'll. tell you another thing here. I spoke. with James Franklin, coach of Penn. State. I said, "Give me a good Abdul. Carter story. I'm going to be with. McAfee and the boys." He says, "Hell. yeah. Here's the deal." He goes, "I went. to go recruit Abdul Carter when he was. in high school. Philadelphia kid in one. of those row houses." Says he opens the. door, the front door, and right there in. the living room, not like there's a. foyer and not there's no mud room. He. walks right in and right there in the. living room is a bench press and a high. school Abdul Carter is just putting a.

set in while the coach of Penn State. walks in the front door and there's a. bench press in the living room. I love. it. One more thing. Million one. Million. two. board thing. The the almost like the not. the Cardinal sin, but the thing that. Giants fans just can't get their hands. around is that they traded out when they. had Micah Parsons on the board a few. years ago. They traded back. They ended. up getting Cadarius Tony and they got a. future first round pick. That rubs so. many Giants fans wrong and it just sits.

and it just fers. This guy might make. right what they made wrong three years. back. The Giants are in an interesting. situation. We all understand that. Everybody has watched along from the. hard knocks off seasonason all the way. through last season with what Saquon. did. Day ball Shane the amount of time. yada yada yada. Abdul will be able to. get to the quarterback and put pressure. Madel, what are your thoughts on what. the Giants did with all the smoke that. was coming of them maybe taking Shidor. early early in the draft? Yeah, you. know, personally, I probably would have. taken Shidur Sanders. I don't know if. Russell Wilson or Jameus Winston or.

whoever, you know, Yeah. Tommy Devito, Tommy Cutley. Thank you, Tommy Cutley. I. don't know if they're going to get the. job done. Abdul Carter though is. absolutely unbelievable. You look at the. elite bend around the edge explosive. He's built like a brick [ __ ] house. You. mentioned the playoff run Pat. He's. tougher than a $2 stick. Tough to miss. on this kind of kid. Coach, I'm sure you. know you look at Micah Parsons and. probably think, "God damn, that's a. spitting image of the guy I was just. coaching." No doubt about it. It's It's. hard not to think of Micah when you see. number 11 out there. But I I think a a.

big thing too when you look at the. history of great organizations, you. know, that won Super Bowls, you go back. and look at the Super Bowl teams of the. Giants. Look at those defensive lines. Look at them defensive front. I I I love. it when teams really lock in and and and. play to their history, the trends of. making their success. I mean, that's. that's a hell of a defensive front. Now, I'm sure Mara appreciates it as well. And Mara had to be in on to say, you. know, he uh was trying to lead them to. water with Saquon Barkley last off. season. it ends up not happening. I'd.

like to see how much Mororrow was doing. this Boston Connor on this pick as Ian. Rapaort has reported that the Patriots. pick is in. We don't know what it is. yet, but they're saying the Patriots. pick is in, so they're not trading out. Yeah, thank God it's probably going to. be a Hall of Famer. Uh the A Carter. thing, the Mara thing, you wonder if. Mara did have some sort of good idea. Maybe Joe Shane's kid chimed in with a. good idea. Maybe Joe Shane listened, maybe he didn't. But it feels like so. far, especially with Carter and Hunter, the the kind of theme around is that. they love ball. You know, like we talk. about how much you need to love football.

to actually be good. Like for you guys. as players and coach, of course you like. how do you know if someone loves ball? Coach, that's actually a good question. I would like you to answer because you. told me that there's potentially a new. like board coming in or a new score. coming in for some of these teams on. like do they love ball or not? Like. trying to figure that out. I I would say. it's new. I just think like it's like. anything. It's heightened. And I think. you got to be careful. Well, I'm going. to go on the other side of this because, you know, sometimes when the player is. hesitant, you know, oh, he doesn't love. ball or he's not, you know, you got to. make sure it's just maybe a little lack.

of confidence because that's that's. where mistakes are made. But how do you. know? What do you mean by that? What do. you mean by that? What do you mean by. that? Well, pro football is about is by. confidence. I mean, you have that slight. hesitation, you know, in it way he's not. finishing a play or, you know, he's not. finishing a block. confidence to me sometimes that lack of. confidence can also look like man this. guy doesn't love football. Would you. draft that guy? Could you could you. bring him in and like empower the guy? I. don't think it's that clean cut. I think.

it know you got to know that. But to. answer the question, these guys love. football. It jumps off the tape. I mean. it jumps off the tape. I mean just the. way they chase the football, the way. they redirect. Obviously they got the. skill set. They're elite. Uh but yeah, these guys love football. I mean they. just their motor. I mean, I I go to. Carter just the uh the Boise game. I. mean, what does he make the first six. tackles? I mean, you know, we're talking. about playoff football and this guy goes. out and he, you know, he makes an impact. immediately. He, you know, he can. disrupt the game. So, yeah, those guys.

are so important to your football team, but I get I get the hey, they don't love. football, they don't have enough grit, or they have the yellow dot. I mean, seen different formats with it, but make. sure you're not dealing with a guy that. has, you know, he just needs some. confidence cuz the end of the day, you. play your best football when you are. rolling rolling in conference. I mean, both of those last two players, they. they're dripping with confidence week in. and week out. You can tell they can play. multiple positions. You talk about Tone. talked about him playing off the ball. and then moving up to the edge. That's a. completely different ball game and for. him to go out there and be uh.

immediately dominant. But, I mean, this. this guy, we watched him down in the. Orange Bowl. It was some questions. would he play because of the shoulders. We knew he'd be a top five pick, maybe. the number one pick at that time and he. toughed it out, played through that. game, had a high impact on it. That lets. you know, that's one of the things, adversity. How do guys deal with. adversity? And that'll tell you a lot of. times how much they love ball, how much. they love to compete. Let's go down to. the draft cave real quick as Roger. Goodell, no actually Roger Goodell is. making his way to the stage right now. for the Patriots. In the 2025 NFL draft, the New England.

Patriots elect Will Campbell tackle LSU. It is official. A lot of mocks had this. happening. You know, there was times. where at Boston, Connor thought Travis. Hunter was going to be a New England. Patriot. There was times he thought. Abdul Carter was going to be a New. England Patriot. Then over the last. couple weeks, it feels like Campbell has. been the guy slotted to be a New England. Patriot. How do you feel about this pick. and uh what does this mean for the. Patriots in this new Vrabel era? Well,

you just mentioned Mike Vrabel. This is. the first pick of the Mike Vrabel era. and it's kind of reminiscent of the MCDC. penn. You know, there's a new culture. coming to New England. We've been. talking about how awesome it was when. New England had this, you know, Moxy and. aura to them of being that team in New. England that is unbeatable. You know, there was something about going up. there, but that hasn't been around the. last few years. Will Campbell the big. conversation leading up to the draft. Hey, this kid's arm's too small. You. know, this guy's got 33 in arms. That's.

not good. He's not going to be able to. play tackle. Penny Soul's arms, let's. just, you know, talk about that. 33 and. 1/4 in. Okay, so a little longer. Not. that much longer. He played left tackle. This isn't a guy that you got to move. from right tackle to left tackle to the. left side of the line. He played. 2,447 snaps at left tackle when he was. at LSU. He started all three years at. left tackle at LSU and this is the SEC. Gave up two sacks over the last two. years of ball. He played every single.

snap. And that's the biggest thing for. me. He plays the position. He's played. He toughs it out. He's not, you know, a. wuss. He's going to continue to play. whether that be left tackle or be left. guard. You know, say he comes in and. sure maybe his arms are a little too. small, an inch too small. Hey, guess. what? We got a 15-year guard. and Dante. Scaria, one of the, you know, premier. Hall of Fame offensive line coaches. He. talked about, he said, "Hey, look, it's. not that big of a deal." From my. perspective, some people, you know, say.

it is, you know, a very big deal. He. says it's not cuz he's got the best. feet. He gets to his spots. Sure, if his. arms are short, then he's have to use. that. Throw the punches at the right. time. Kind of use those angles. Get to. your spot, guys. 6639. Feels like you've. done a lot of research tonight. This is. a good pick. It is a good pick. Well. done. Who Who's the franchise? Who's the. franchise at the end of the day? It's. the wide receiver. Is it the pass. rusher? No, it's the damn quarterback. Protect Drake May. He's the dude. Will.

Campbell's going to do that. Okay, let's. go to the draft cave. Uh, with. everything that Connor just said, is. there anything to add AP Tone? There he. Connor did an incredible job. There's a. couple of things. He's the first true. freshman to start at left tackle for. LSU. And then, as Connor said, he did. that for three years, 38 games. He only. missed two games in the three years that. he was an all or sorry all SEC every. single year. He was an all-American this. year. He was doing that with those short. arms. Conor said the two sacks. That was. in a thousand pass blocking reps over. the last two years. He only gave up. those. He's a great run blocker, too. Um.

he did have the shortest arms since. 1999, but we've we've already said 199. wingspan. shortest 199 shortest wings shortest. wingspan since 199 all eligible tackles. or what is that? What do you mean? Yes. Uh, tackles that went to the combine, I. believe. Oh, wow. He's got He's got. these little arms, huh? Is that what. we're like? He's got the T-Rex arms. Is. that what we're worried about? Uh, real. quick from me on this one. They loved. him. Vel's a guy who knows and respect. like this is right up his alley. I've.

been told that all week he's been. walking around wearing the free shirt. that the NFL gave all the rookies. Like, he just got a t-shirt and the like. here's a bag and a gift bag and that's. what he's been wearing around town. I. love that. This guy's an allworld guy. But in what they say is a threeplayer. draft. If you listen to it all week, it. was Genty, it was Carter, it was Hunter. This wasn't one of the guys. And you. think if Jaylen Milro, I'm sorry, if uh. what's my Joe Milton doesn't throw like. he's like, you know, Dan Marino, who. knows if this goes a different way, but. you can't consider that. You just got to.

go on. They got the best linemen. Coach. Mike McCarthy, offensive line this high. in the draft. You like it? Love it. Uh. you talk about three primary positions. your quarterback obviously first pick, second pick, rusher, edge rusher, and. now the off left tackle. You know, that's what in the quarterback. Those. are your four primary uh positions in. the National Football Play, National. Football League. Excellent pick. Obviously, I think the footwork, his. hips, alignment, and so forth. I mean, talk about his tenacity, his finish, you. know, reputation as a great leader. I.

mean, he he he he's a cornerstone, a. keystone. Pennsylvania Keystone type player. No, I. think this is a Short arms though, coach. Short arms was the thing. No, definitely not. But yeah, I mean, hey, at the end of the day, he can he go. inside. I mean, we talked about a bunch. of guys. I mean, throughout my career in. Green Bay and Dallas, draft tackle, draft tackle, you know, and if he does. have a problem, then he goes in, plays. guard. Not a big deal, but I mean, this. guy's a premier player. He's played in. the SEC. You You hit the number of. snaps. How many How many?

24,447 at left tackle. Yeah. Bingo. Didn't miss a game. AJ, it's a dog. Durability is a skill. It's something you can work on. I love. it. If you're if you're not injuryprone. in college, you're probably not going to. be injuryprone in the NFL. Well, he's a. natural knee bender. I mean, you can see. I mean, you see, what does that mean. exactly, coach? When other people like a. casual fan doesn't watch football, you. see I think always look, you can see. just on those few clips here. Look at. the ankle and the knee and the hip. flexion. Okay? You know, you see he's. always his hips are always coming. through. Always coming through. Then. he's got the finish. Then then he has.

the tenacity to go with it. So, you. know, I I I mean, hell, I think it's an. excellent pick. Cleveland Browns making. their selection of five. They traded it. here. The Cleveland Browns select Mason. Graham. All right, defensive tackle. Michigan. Two D lineman now off the. board. Abdul Carter and now Mason Graham. heading to the Cleveland Browns. They. trade out of two back to five. I wonder. if Mason Graham was the guy that they. wanted and they knew they could get him. at five and why if we can get a hall. alongside of it, let's do that. Let's go.

to the draft cave. Uh, Peter Shreger, why do you think Browns go back to five, stay at five, and take Mason Graham? I'm. surprised, guys. It takes a lot to. surprise me. At no point in this. process, and I'm I'm I am secure enough. to tell you, at no point in this process. that I hear Mason Graham to the Browns. in any shape, way, or form. And that's. why we love the draft. So, Mason Graham. goes, all draft process was considered. the best interior defensive lineman that. I had thought and heard that his stock. might be dropping and he might come out. of the top 10 because of the physical.

traits. Wow. He's not tall. He's not. big. And if you walk in a room and you. saw him walk across the stage, he. doesn't look like he's a menace. And. then you watch the film and all the guy. does is just destroy things. So, I. thought that they were going to take. Hunter at two. Of course, we see what. happens. But one thing to note, phone. lines were open and the Browns were. willing to listen to maybe come back and. trade back and collect more. No one was. coming back to get up once Abdul Carter. and Travis Hunter were off the board. Hey, pick who you like. And I think.

that's how it's going to go from this. point on. As Mason Graham, uh, who Peter. Shreger described as a basic ass looking. individual, uh, basically is what we. watch him live at the Rose Bowl. Literally feet in front of us. Problematic in there. Yes. At the Rose. Bowl, the international championship. And much much like Will Campbell, I feel. like he was kind of the man from day. one. You knew what you were going to. get. Just a bowling ball of butcher. knives in the middle of that defense. You put him on that defensive line with. Miles Garrett on the outside. Like. that's a problem cuz the best. quarterbacks that I played against, they.

hated that pressure up in their face. between those guards. He generates that. type of pressure and he's unbelievable. with the line of scrimmage, defeating. blocks, being an athlete, keeping his. balance, and not only beating blocks for. making tackles in the back field, being. very, very disruptable, disruptive in. that back field. I love everything about. Mason Gra and his pick. Mad Mel, uh. Mason Graham's a guy you love. Absolutely love him. I mean, he's. tenacious, you know, there's no two ways. about it. He's a mean cuss, you I think. that gets thrown around a lot, but this. guy is an absolute junkyard dog. Love.

the pick. I I Triggs alluded to it. He. didn't see it coming. I do question. whether or not the Browns know what the. [ __ ] they're doing. I I. really listen, you know, hey, I love Joe. Flacko. I love Footstep Flack. I love. Kenny Picket. Sher Sanders is sitting. there right there, okay? He's the number. one guy on my big board. He's one of the. best quarterbacks I've ever evaluated. I. just Hey, DTack will help. Sure, that'll. help. The Browns need to get it figured. out, though, and I just don't know if. that's a pick. Again, Mason Graham,

great football. Coach Mike McCarthy, you. think the Browns are in the wrong for. bringing Mason Graham to team him up. with that Dline that they just paid a. $40 million pass rusher? Not at all. I. mean, we talked about it earlier about. defensive lines in the football. I mean, I tell you what, if you want to improve. their team in the trenches, you better. jump up and take some of these linemen. cuz I mean, I think you've seen a trend. here. O line, Dline, both. Yeah, I think. so. I mean, I Yeah, I don't know how you. can argue with this pick. Come on, Mel. I mean, yeah, come on, Mel. You don't. have Utah's like you got to probably in. Cleveland is he from Pittsburgh? Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, coach, I mean,

D tackle's great. Don't you need a. [ __ ]. quarterback? You told us that last. night. You don't go without a. quarterback. Hey, does this mean Kirk. Cousins potentially? Let's go back to. the draft game. Peter Shreger, does this. mean Kirk Cousins reuniting with Kevin. Sansky in Cleveland? Cuz that was kind. of a narrative like two weeks ago. It. was. And then they went and got Flaco, who is Stfansky's other love. So, I I. don't know if that's going to happen. right now. You know, Cousins is an. interesting one. Obviously, he's been. shown up to Atlanta. I could tell you I. would expect Cousins to not play for. Atlanta, but someone's going to have to. eat it. I don't know if it's Cleveland,

though. Okay, so not Cleveland. We know. the Las Vegas Raiders are on the clock. They just brought in Gino Smith this. past offseason. Obviously, Pete Carol, Tom Brady, a lot more active. Coach, what do you think the Raiders are. looking at? I know you did some research. on team needs and such. Um, let me check. my list. Check your notes. Check your. notes. Yeah. Word on the street is right. that uh possibly. No, it's not. Yeah. You know, Tate, it says tackle, receiver, and corner, but god damn, don't you like the runner here, Ashen. Gent? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. No, I. mean, I think that's uh I think Pete I.

think Pete will have a hard time passing. up, you know? I mean, I just when I. think of the Seattle Seahawks and that. great run they had up here with that. great defense, but Marshon Lynch, man, I. mean, I changed that changed the times. in Seattle. Roger Goodell is heading to. the stage right now. Sorry, Con Man. In. the 2025 NFL draft, the Las Vegas. Raiders select, Ashton Genty, running. back, Boise State. I'm happy. I'm happy. for Ashton. He came, he came on our.

show. He was awesome. D But he put Boise. State on his back. Could have. transferred, decided not to, became a. superstar, led them to the playoff. Everything that he did was fantastic. I'm happy he's the top 10 pick. I am as. well. Just a phenomenal, phenomenal. football player. last year. Obviously, he was the runner up in the Heisman race. and he was chasing down that Barry. Sanders record, which all of us up up. here thought was untouchable. Seems like. a great great character guy. I believe. both parents uh military as well. And. you talked about that run with Seattle. back in the day with Marshawn Lynch. I. asked Ashton when he came on the show,

what backs did you kind of model your. game your game after? Who is it? Marshawn was the first name that come. came out of his mouth. Alvin Chimera as. well. You see, is just his. explosiveness, his power, his contact. balance, his vision. He's everything you. want in a runner and great great weapon. for Gino Smith as well. How many tackles. has this guy broken? Honestly, I know. they tell you the number, but this is. the first draft pick of the Tom Brady. era for the Raiders. So, I'm I wonder. how much I would assume Tom being an. offensive guy loves having a guy like. Ashton Genty in the back field. The. Patriots had a great run game all the.

time. Play action was their baby. You. know, Gino Smith, great play action. quarterback. Chip Kelly there now. I'll. be excited to see what he does dialing. up the offense. You talked about Pete. Carol in that Seattle team and getting a. Marshawn Lynch. Feels like they got the. running back of the league as he or of. the draft class as he dabs up Roger. Goodell. Let's go to the draft cave. AP. Tone. They're saying it's a deep running. back draft, right? And the first one's. off the board now. Do we expect the run. or how do we expect this to go? There's. it is a very very very deep running back. class. They they're talking about one of. the best running back classes in a in a.

long long time. Obviously with the top. four being the two Ohio State guys, Amari and Hampton from UNC and then. Genty. Um I don't know if it's going to. be a run. And I think the overunder for. the round uh for for the first round is. two and a half. So I think everyone. thinks Amarian Hampton's probably going. to go at some point this this round and. then is you know as Trayvon Henderson is. Quinchon Juckkins or something like that. going to sneak into the the end of the. first round. Shrekes felt like we've. known this forever. Spyc said on an. interview that his kid said if he didn't. draft Ashen Genty he was going to look. for a new family and a new team. Isn't. that accurate? Yeah they did this they.

took a running back over the two. offensive tackles that are still sitting. there. That's what's interesting. Membu. sitting there and I think a lot of. people thought they might go all right. let's get our bookend tackle here and. let's build our nope they go with Genty. the runner who's so dynamic here's an. interesting note on spy techch I called. him about last week and we were empty in. the notebook whatever and I said running. back too soon he goes dude we got Bucky. Irving last year out of Oregon and I. will tell you that guy was the fuel of. our offense and that's what everything. went through you mix Chip Kelly Pete.

Carol and a guy who evaluates and loves. the running back position. That's what. gets you genty. I couldn't speak about. the college stuff. I don't watch Boise. State. I saw in the bowl game. Hey, I. saw in the bowl game Penn State bottle. him up. So, I'm not going to do flips. over running back at six just yet, but I. like the kid. I like the kid. Oh, wow. Chuck know that. Shrekes also wants to. to find Mason Graham in a bar and. challenge him. It sounds like as well. I'm not walking up on Mason Graham. anywhere. That guy looks like Ashenty. Neither of those guys. Mad Mel, you love. Ashen Genty? Absolutely loves Ashen.

Genty. You look at him, he's built like. a goddamn Greek god. I mean, he looks. like an Adonis. I also look at the. Raiders. Hey, you look at a couple of. these drafts they've had over the. Listen, I know it's, you know, new front. office, new head coach. They've had a. lot of guys who have had some off the-. field issues that, you know, they never. got to see their full potential. You. don't have to worry about that with Ash. Genty. You know, Debuts mentioned it. Obviously, he's got two military. parents. He's a good kid, but he's a. hard-nosed son of a [ __ ] when he goes. in between those lines. I think this is. perfect for the Raiders moving forward. Yeah, the caboose on that guy, you know,

massive coach love big asses at. explosive positions. Absolutely. He's a. bowling ball full butcher. Now, I think. the biggest thing is his contact balance. and said it earlier. Uh, and then the. number of tackles this guy breaks, you. know, living in North Dallas, I've been. hearing about this young man for, you. know, the last five five or six years, you know, right there in Fris. But, I. mean, he is an impact player. I mean, I. mean, he, you know, you talk about it, a. young man that's going to touch the ball. 20 22 times a game. Wants to, huh? He. wants to as well. Oh yeah. No, but he's.

built that way. I mean, yeah, he he. could go in right now and play that way. when you look at his body type and his. run style and and he's done it. I mean, this is a great pick for for beating. those guys. I know Gent is unbelievable, but how much has the recent success of. the Jir Gibbs and the Bejian Robinson up. at the top of the draft impacted these. these backs coming out now? Yeah, definitely. And I I think you know. obviously the financial component is you. know something to look at but the end of. the day if you want to change the. identity of your of your football team. this young man will do it. Absolutely.

love it. Hell yeah. And spitec did say. he was going to gut him like a stuck. pig. Yeah. He said he's leaving. He say. he's leaving. Um the Jets are on the. clock now. Uh they obviously signed. Justin Fields this offseason. I think a. $30 million deal if um remembering. correctly. 20 million and then like a 10. million I think is the way it was set. up. Obviously they moved on from Aaron. Rogers in a quick abrupt way uh from our. journalism. We found that uh coach they. called him in journalism. Our.

journalism don't laugh. Don't laugh at. us. Uh our journalism uh told us that. Aaron flew from one side of country to. the other over there and uh he walked in. and they said, "Hey, good news. get the. [ __ ] out. And then he hopped on a plane. and flew back and his Jets time was. over. But with that being said, brand. new era in New York yet again, looking. to do something that hasn't happened for. the Jets in a long, long time. Justin.

Fields obviously their starter. That is. the money that they paid him moving. forward. What are your thoughts on what. the Jets should think about doing? And. uh is it are we going to see another big. guy potentially move here? Yeah, I think. so. Uh once again, I think his tackles. are going to come off the board early. Uh, I think, you know, based on people. I've talked to, if you want one, you. better get up there and get them. So, uh, but and I think the end of the. thing, this is a this is a new era, you. know, defensive mind. Aaron's defensive. minded coach, you got to get the. trenches right. You have to get the. trenches right. And I think it's so.

important. And we've had some impact. skill positions go up. But I think the. tackle position is the primary here. Matt Mel, is this going to make the. whatever happens here going to make the. Jets Super Bowl contenders yet again? It's funny you mentioned that, Pat. I. was just going to say, listen, I hope. Aaron Glenn does great. If Jesus Christ. of Nazareth was available right now at. number seven, I don't think it [ __ ]. matters at all. The Jets are never going. to win a Super Bowl, unfortunately. Boston Connor knows it. This team's kind. of just destined to suck forever. They. just had a Mount Rushmore quarterback. come and Jesus Christ. What? He went. four or five games there. Okay. Yeah,

let's let's draft a tackle. That's. That's really going to put us over the. edge. Good luck. Good luck. We'll see. We'll see. Obviously, we don't know. That's Happy Easter, by the way. Happy. Easter. He has. risen. Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I mean, anybody. Big Mike could be that the OC. of that team and they still want to do. well. It is impossible. When it comes to. the Jets themselves, let's keep in mind. they got a 19-year-old running the team. Okay. Who's Brick Johnson like? Who's. the most swag dummy player on the board.

left? That is who Brick is going to want. to take. And that's why, you know, I. could see someone with as much swagger. uh and maybe not as much skill going. But to the Dline point, maybe Jaylen. Walker from Georgia. Who knows? That. might be the guy. Maybe maybe a couple. trenches guy. They were chitting for. Jordy Nelson. I I don't know if Jordy. Nelson could help the New York Jets, but. uh this draft pick definitely will. Mad. Bell, will it? I mean, we we don't know. I mean, we'll see. We'll see. Again, you. know, tackle's nice. Uh they they got an. exciting new quarterback, you know, new. GM, new head coach. I just don't see it.

I'm sorry. Let's go to the draft cave. Uh Peter Shger, where were the Jets been. linked to through the last draft cycle? Tyler Warren, the Penn State tight end, and then Arman Meu of Missouri. We'll. see who they pick. Oh, another right. tackle. That's draft. The New York Jets. select Arman. Meu, Missouri. Congratulations to the. New York Jets. They get a new tackle. He. is not at the draft. He's at home. That. looks like an awesome environment that. they are showing on ESPN right now. Good. balloons, good lighting, good outfits.

Looks like he is uh he's from Kansas. City, Missouri. Uh right now celebrating. with his family. I enjoy I know we're. not supposed to say this because we're. at the draft and the NFL. Shout out to. them giving us this spot and being able. to do this. If I'm getting drafted, I'm. at home. You know, I am doing that. moment right there. Love that he's at. home with his people. Love that he gets. drafted. Obviously top 10, but to your. point, tackles are moving right now. It's a necessity. Yeah, definitely. And. also, I'm going to make a point by being. at home. That's one of the coolest. things as a head coach. You get to talk,

you know, talk to the to the to the. draft pick when you get on and hear the. excitement in the background. And I. mean, there's there's nothing like it. And this this is pretty cool too though. But don't but but to be home and share. that with your people. Outstanding. So. great pick. Well hey seriously you got to have. tackles. No you got to have tackles. I. mean and Jess's got a talented football. team. There's talent there. I don't know. how you can ever go wrong taking these. big men this high. How okay Mad Mo. Who. would you have liked him to take then? Well I mean Tyler War maybe you know get.

a get a weapon. I know a lot of people. mock him there, but after seeing that. how lit it is with his family. He's in. Kansas City. I know he's ending the. night at bazookas. So, yeah, let's just. say I like the Arvin. Meoo. I'm big time. You're coming. around, man. You're coming around. There. you go. Debbut not as many like the. years past that we've done this. Yeah. We've known the big names that are going. to go top 10 basically. It's afterwards. Now, we got offensive tackle heavy. We. got trenches heavy. This is old school.

football. I think this is synonymous. with the cyclicality of football and. what we're seeing right now in the NFL. It usually starts with uh the. quarterback position. We already know we. usually expect Is that a word? Oh yeah. I don't I don't think so, but it sounded. damn good. Run with it. Float, but yeah. What's we don't This wasn't that. quarterback class. Um at least not now. at this point coming into the draft. And. a lot of people talked about the depth. on both sides of the line, the offensive. lineman and the defensive lineman. and. told me, "Don't be surprised if you see.

over 20 of these positions picked in the. first round, which isn't sexy, but at. the end of the day, this is how you. build a program. We have Howie on the. show all the time. O line, Dline. You. just made an investment in Justin. Fields. You really want to see what you. got in your quarterback, protect them, and then you go out and get the weapon. Let's go to the draft cave. AP tone. memb.". Yep. Three years at right tackle. Uh, actually, the Jets took left tackle Olu. Fanu out of Penn State last year. So now. they have their two bookend tackles.

moving forward. That's Patriots fan. farting in the microphone. Arman Membu, he he's great. He really shined at the. draft this year. He ran a 491. He's the. fifth player since uh 2000 to be over. 330 lbs and run a sub 540. So he's an. absolute athletic freak. He's all about. upside upside upside. He only gave up. one sack this year as well. Trager, did. we know they were going line there at. New York Jets? Yeah, it came in this. it's like this afternoon that it was. more likely if Meu was on the board they.

would take him. I you know I thought Meu. would be gone. So that's a great one. The mock draft is still intact because I. had Meu to the Raiders and here he goes. So it's fine. But I will say this Mason. Graham. That's it. Mason Graham I did. not see coming. Uh I'll tell you. this. This is a guy who is a classic. combine eye opener which the Jets. historically do not have a great history. with. Vernon Goldston was that guy. Sorry Jay-Hawk. This is what happens. when you draft on measurables. That. said, historic measurables. It's a new.

regime. I just could see five years from. now some Jets fan calling me up and. saying, "I can't believe we drafted. freaking Arman Meu over Tyler Warren.". And I'll say, "Hey, you needed the right. tackle, boys." Craig, can I ask you a. question? Craig, do you remember what. Meu was looked at? Like what where he. was projected going into the combine. before he went and did great. Yeah. Not. not up this high. It was you had the. Texas kid, of course, you had Will. Campbell and everyone was saying Ohio. State, Simmons, all these guys. Membu. wasn't in that conversation just yet. He. really catapulted himself. And I'll tell.

you, yesterday or Tuesday, I know Darren. Muji had like a 45minute zoom with Arman. Meu. So, you get the feeling that this. is someone that they've already had an. eye on and they put the finishing. touches on that. Yeah. I I think like. anything, you know, these the New York. Jets have a board and we've said this. already a couple times. If you want to. know lineman, an offensive tackle, you. better get up and go. You better get up. there and take them. A lot of teams need. them, right? Yeah. And I mean, there's. there's a lot of there's a lot of team. that have offensive tackle, one or two.

in their needs in the first in the first. 20 picks. So, I I don't know how you can. ever go wrong taking an offensive. tackle. I mean, especially I mean, we. talked about you need four you got four. first round picks on your defensive. line. Well, you better have you want to. throw the ball and and go win games and. in November, December and go win that. two-minute drill that we talked about in. the playoff games. You know, 90 some%. 94% of the playoff games come down to a. two-minute drill. The last series of. things. So, you know, to have them book. in tackles and you want to be a running.

past football team. This guy's dropping. stats, dropping stats in 94, 95, whatever it takes. I mean, it's it's. it's I I think there's been what, two. games in playoff football, two or three. games in the last two or three years. that have not gone down to the last. series. Okay. I mean, that's our league. I mean, that's our game. It's that. competitive. I mean, parody has been in. place for 20 years. Yeah. When when it. comes to the combine with Meu, like, how. often is it when you're going through. the draft process where the tape matches. the combine or the tape doesn't match. the combine? Like, where where does that.

overlap? I I I you know I I think when. you get into a combine sensation gets. drafted higher than people think about. I mean I mean we don't like the finish. I mean some of these clips here I mean. this guy's a football player. I mean. look at I mean he's got good contact. balance. Look at his feet. I saw the. combine solidif I don't think I don't. think I've ever been part of a draft. meeting. We came back from the combine. like whoa move him up you know but it's. almost oh well let's tell them we got to. take a harder look at this guy. Got it. you know, we we got to get we got to get.

in. And does it check a box? Does it. check a box? Like if it's a wide. receiver and you're like, we're. wondering a little bit about Absolutely. Yeah. The combine will check a box, but. it's not going to like change your draft. board is what you're saying. Yeah, absolutely. No, I mean, it's part of the. evaluation, but I, you know, you cannot. get too far away from the film. You can. never get too much reinforce the film. Don't you want his speed and everything. to reinforce? With that being said, a. lot of film has been talked about. The. Carolina Panthers are on the clock and. making their pick. 2025 NFL draft. The.

Carolina Panthers select Tedarola. McMillan. Wow. Wide receiver. Irish. Arizona. Irish. Okay. We're just talking. about film and I might have known that. that was going to be the pick for the. Carolina Panthers. Um, people talked. about his film. People talked about some. of the things he said. He loves. volleyball, which is a sport we all love. on this particular set. We played. volleyball earlier in McCarthy's barn. actually which is about same size as the. house out there on a beautiful piece of. land here in Green Bay. This guy though.

they said on some film maybe he's not. finishing some plays they say doesn't. love football that was like all the. negative smear that was about him but. whenever he gets the ball and what he. did at Arizona phenomenal talent I. believe. Yeah, I I think once again when. you look at this young man catching. radius, you know, I love big receivers, big receivers. Throw me the damn ball. I. mean, I mean, because he is open because. of his catching radius and he plays that. way. I thought 2023, you know, the the. change for 23 offense. So, you got to.

see him run a lot of different routes. and um excellent pick. You want to help. your quarterback, this is how you do it. And Bryce Young. obviously had a little bit of a. resurgence post. I thought Bryce played. well last year. Yeah. got benched. Then. he comes back and he becomes a guy. That. team actually starts going in a positive. manner. Now they add another weapon for. him down there. Got to appreciate that. debuff. Yeah. Big time weapon. And you. obviously can't coach up size when you. have that size speed, you know, athleticism combination. That's tough. for DBs usually. Typically with T-Mac. going to be smaller than him. So he's. goes up and blaze in time and fly up.

draft boards. It was a question if maybe. he would have dropped if he would drop. in his draft because he didn't run as. fast as people thought. But like you. said, you can't coach up that size. There was some question about how much. does he love ball and I'm sure they did. that due diligence. Dan Morgan, what I. know about Dan Morgan, he's not drafted. guys that doesn't love ball. So, I can't. wait to see T-Mac on the next level. Just put a celebratory lay on to Roger. Goodell. Shout out to uses on the draft. stage right now making an official pick. Let's go to our draft cave. Uh AP Tone.

the T-Mac conversation. Obviously, we. watched him in Arizona. He was. electrifying a lot of highlights during. draft season. It got a little loud. What. did you see? It got a little loud. because, you know, he didn't run at the. combine and then there was a lot of. talk, would he run his 40? He ended up. running his 40 at his Arizona Pro Day. and then there was a lot of mixed. numbers on what he ran. It's a little. slower than people would thought and. then that video came out from when he. was 19 talking about watching film and. stuff like that. But this guy has always. always been good. He was a California. player of the year when he was coming. out. He when he was a freshman, he led. all freshman and receiving yards. He's a.

two-time all-American. He had 3,400. career receiving yards, which was. obviously all records at Arizona. He had. the most 20 plus yard catches in his. during the span of his career than. anyone in the college football. I mean, he's a walking highlight reel. So, as. long as like as long as we talked about. Dan Morgan and they felt comfortable. with the guy and you know, there was a. talk about him taking off plays, but Dan. Olowski had a good point today where. there's a lot of offenses where coaches. today in college football are saying, "Hey, you know that we know this ball is. going the opposite way. You know, you. could take this play off and stuff like.

that." As long as everyone felt good. about that, I think it's a great pick. for break. Coach Mike McCarthy, your. thoughts? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I. think there's some great examples here. on the highlight tape when you know when. when we would evaluate that everybody. say, "Oh, ball skills. He's got good. ball skills." Well, yeah. Define that. So, you got a guy with a big catching. radius, but he is a plucker. I mean, he. he is natural hand. He plucks the ball. out of the air. You know, I when I. evaluate receivers, one of the first. things I always look at is he a plucker. or is he a framer? You know, guys that. frame the ball, they got to frame the. ball. You know, this guy's a plucker.

Don volleyball player. DBs like framers. DB. Yeah, I'll go with that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. I'll ride that. So, no, but you know, I think third down, red zone, those types of things. I mean, he'll be super productive. That's a I. mean, that's quarterback's best friend. right there. Let's go down to the a uh. the draft cave. Um Peter Shger, we knew. this was happening for Carolina. I don't. think there was a single conversation. about what Carolina was going to do at. all during the draft process. No, the. talk all the last few hours has been. Carolina's trying to trade back, trying.

to trade back. They wanted a. differencemaker. What I will say this, you talk about Dave Canales. Who did. Dave Canales have in Tampa Bay as his. number one when he and Baker really had. that year? Mike Evans. It was Mike. Evans, a 6'4 beast along the perimeter. who can do things in the red zone if you. need. McMillan was a controversial. prospect. I will tell you why. It's not. just that, hey, he played volleyball or. he took plays off. There were legitimate. questions from teams whether he loves.

football. Well, I can tell you the last. 72 hours or so, he has gone above and. beyond addressing those with teams. And. his college coach, his original college. coach, Jed Fish at Arizona, has been. going on the campaign trail for for this. young man over the last two weeks. explaining just what a special person he. is. And I think that goes a long way. when you hear it from the college coach. who says, "I don't even coach the guy. anymore. I'm at Washington. But when we. were at Arizona, this was everything to. us. 3,400 yds, 26 touchdowns, and I will.

add in a draft that everyone told us. there were no good wide receivers, no. good wide receivers, guess what? We've. got a running back and a wide receiver. in the top 10. Uh, Shregs, it looks like. he's pumped to be a Carolina Panther. Here's him walking through the hall, barking at that Panther logo. Boston. Connor, I loved watching the Irish do. his thing at Arizona. Happy we're going. to see him on Sundays. Guaranteed. Incredible him with Xavier Lee yet. I. assume that'll be a very sweet little. room, some conversations. But how. awesome is it for Bryce Young, too? Like.

you're talking about this, you know, defensive GM, new with Dan Morgan kind. of new guy. But all of a sudden, Bryce. Young is the dude there. Saints making a. pick. This is a big one. Saints select Kelvin Banks Jr. tackle. Texas. Coach Mike McCarthy. I mean, yeah. I keep saying here, I love to pick every. time a tackle comes up. But I I I'll. tell you this. I I think I think the. Saints have an outstanding offensive. line. I and I think it's just been.

completed. I mean, I I think this. offensive line can rival can be up here. in, you know, in in a top offensive. line. I think this is a great addition. to that other line. So now, who's our. quarterback down there in New Orleans, man? Well, no. That's why I'm sorry. about that. No, no, listen. That's why I. love this pick. As you look at Derek. Carr, his I mean, his his [ __ ]. shoulder isn't attached to his body. right now. Allegedly. Allegedly. We don't know. But. yeah, so you need to protect the guy. Who knows who the hell is going to be. taking snaps this year. I don't think. this year really matters anyway. You're.

not hiring Kell Moore and expecting him. to come in and win the division. Hey, listen pal. Go two and 15 next year. We'll get Arch to come back in and, you. know, take over where grandpa played. We. don't know. But I love this pick. We saw. Kelvin Banks play again. Mean cuss, big. son of a [ __ ] You want to talk about. big honking cabooseas? This guy's got. one. Yeah. and uh Ryan Ramch, they're. like all pro tackle, just retired at 31. And then I think it was two years ago, they took uh the meanest of mean.

streaks. Uh Trevor Penning, who. apparently is just a brawler. So now. they got two super young tackles. And. yeah, we'll see if they come back into. the first round for a QB. Let's go to. the draft cave. Peter Sherger, I thought. we were having a quarterback. Does that. mean they're trading back in or are they. maybe in the Kirk Cousins sweeps thing? Oh, uh they might be trading back in. I'm thinking they're a Jackson Dart. team, too, and they might be ones coming. in at the end of the first round. And if. you look at the Saints, they might be. able to stay in the second round and get. one. Look, meat and potatoes. They get. their offensive lineman. And you. mentioned Arch Manning. Well, if you're.

taking this guy this year out of Texas, it couldn't hurt to take Arch next year. Oh, you think they're just setting up an. Arch Manning for next year? Uh they the. fans said in Indianapolis, we had a suck. for luck campaign going on. I would like. to let everybody know I was butting my. ass off that year. Hell yeah. I I I was. trying to I was trying to play as good. as possible and all the boys on the. field were trying to play as good as. possible. We did not play good and we. did end up with Andrew Luck. But it is. funny we're already looking ahead to. next year's quarterback draft class. And. I think it's pretty evident with how.

this draft has gone thus far that people. are potentially saying if we're going to. take one, maybe next year's the class. But let's get back to this with the. Saints. They're in the NFC South. Yeah, obviously Carolina Panthers just got. another wide receiver. They look very. good towards the end of the year. Buccaneers solidify who they are in this. entire thing. The Atlanta Falcons got to. figure it out. Michael Penn, we'll see. if he's a guy. Now, the Saints go. offensive lineman for Kell Moore's first. pick as a head coach. Yeah, you. mentioned Kell Moore, former. quarterback. I am surprised they didn't. go quarterback here, Shador Sanders or. Jackson Dart if that's their guy. You. know, it's apparent that they don't.

think too highly of these quarterbacks, but I would think you want to go into. this season if you have expectations of. winning that division at least and. getting a quarterback. So, maybe like. Shreger said, they're not done. They'll. get back in there in the later half and. get it. But it's a great pick. You got. Alvin Camra as their most dynamic weapon. on offense. Another big boy to p away in. front of. for you know Kell Moore obviously much. more than office. How do you think he is. going to like his first year. implementing that offense? What do you. think how do you think it goes? Obviously the quarterback situation. still up in the air. Well I I think you.

know number one I I like the roster. I I. think this is a better football team. than obviously the record. I mean they. they went through a tough tough injury. injury phase. They're going to get a lot. of those guys back. Like I said, I think. this solidifies the offensive line. I. mean, that that is a hang you're at. offensive line group. Now, clearly, how. many guys do you need up there now on. the old line? How many guys like solid. going into the season? I mean, I if you. want to put value on it, I I think, you. know, if you're going to say you need at. least four number one picks, we were. talking about the amount of value that. goes into a Dline, you know, if you look.

at some of the best offensive lines out. there, you can make a case that three. offense, you know, three first rounders. on your offense. I mean, we're talking. in theory. Yeah. you know, but I think. in this particular case with the Saints. roster, this is this is an excellent. fit. I mean, because when you you look. at them now, you go in there, they're. running the ball and he's dynamic and he. is a m he's a he is a matchup problem. I. mean, both running it and throwing it. So, um I I think Kell Kell will have a. great time running in pass, but coach, he's got it up front. Coach Kell just.

came from Philadelphia. Yep. Obviously, this just like Ben Johnson with the. Bears. The first thing Ben Johnson does. coming out of Detroit with their great. offensive line, load up the Bears. offensive line. Kell Moore coming out of. Philadelphia, first thing they do, load. up this offensive line. It's a trenches. It's a trenches sport. Always will be. Kell Moore also like to run that ball a. lot last year in Philly. Don't you think. that is? Hell yeah. Yeah. Control that. clock. No, I I think that that's funny. But, um, I think the biggest thing is, you know, like I've said three times,

you know, I mean, they they that that's. going to be that that O line will impact. that'll impact their season. We got. shirtless Packers fans and uh, Hall of. Famer Steve Mcichael. Monga, rest in. peace. My heart is with the Mcichel. family during this incredibly difficult. time. Misty, please know that you are in. our thoughts and prayers. Mongo's remarkable contributions to the. game and the community will never be. forgotten. Can't believe that his legacy.

will continue to inspire generations to. come. 50 years ago, with the fourth pick in. the 1975 NFL draft, the Chicago Bears. selected one of Steve Michael's. teammates and closest friends, Walter. Payton, running back Jackson State. Walter would go on to rush for nearly. 17,000 yards and 110 touchdowns over 13.

seasons, all with the Chicago Bears. As you heard earlier, the NFL continues. to honor Sweetness, not only for his. performance and excellence on the field, but also his commitment to give back to. his community with the Walter Payeyton. NFL couple different teams. Obviously, everybody loved Warren as well, Big 10. tight ends there having a field day. Bears still suck. Obviously, Raj Gadell.

set these fans up not to be able to boo. him there for a bit and then he took a. turn. Rest in peace to [ __ ] Not only a. legend on the football field, also in. wrestling. Okay, I absolutely love [ __ ]. Mcichael. Rest in peace to him. Love. that Roger Goodell brings up [ __ ] who. I think is universally loved. That. Walter Payton also good move. And then. he goes bam and with the pick. Coulson. Lovelin comes in there, tries to sneak. it in before they can boo him off the. stage because the Chicago Bears hate. here is real. Uh, coach McCarthy, can.

you tell me about the Packers Bears. rivalry and also Ben Johnson's offense? He has an ability to do great things. with the tight end. Why do you think it. was lovely? Well, I think number one, I. think just is his, you know, his. flexibility and you look at these wheel. routes that he's running, back shoulder. throws and everything. You know, when. you think about an offense for a. quarterback, you know, the easiest. throws are right in front of you. So the. the tight end position is critical to. controlling the clock, but he's also. time and time again, you'll see on this. the highlight tape is his ability to win.

the vertical routes both in inside and. outside. So definitely a matchup. problem. You see, you can see the action. he's getting down there in the red zone. So excellent, excellent pick. And I'll. say this about the Bears and Packers. rivalry. I my first year as a head coach. 2006, uh Steve Sable grabs me at the at. the owner's meeting and he says, "Uh, hey, I just want to tell you this." you. know, he's telling me about the history. of his father, NFL films, and so forth. And he goes, he goes, "I just want you. to realize not only how important it is. that you're the head coach of the. Packers, but you're part of the greatest.

rivalry in sport." Now, at the tight end. position, they add another one. I mean, they're he's they're walking mismatches. You know, as long as they can be viable. in the run game. They are mismatches on. third down, red zone, moving that ball. down the field. And Lovelin, his. production doesn't match his draft spot. because of the offense, because of the. quarterbacks that he played with last. season. But he is dynamic in space. Great uh catching radius. He can go up. and get that ball. Smart player, physical player, has won. Has been on. the championship team. He's an. unbelievable player. I love this pick. for Caleb. You got dynamic weapons on.

the outside. DJ Moore, you got Roman. Dunce who you we expect to take a step. up. You built up paid some money to. build up that offensive line to protect. Caleb. And now you got a great outlet. for him along with Cole KT who I think. is a dynamic tight end as well. So Ben. Johnson's got a lot to work with with. the Detroit Lions. They never had too. many weapons. Great team to bet anytime. touchdowns on as well. So looking. forward to this Bears offense next year. with this addition. Let's go to the. draft cave. One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone Coulson lovelin ahead of. Warren. Did we know that in Shrags.

immediately afterwards? How'd we get. here? We we always knew it was going to. be a chance. You know, we we were in all. of us when we were going through those. national championship games. We were on. the sideline last year. We were. infatuated with Coulson Lovelin before. we were infatuated with Tyler Warren. This year he led them in in yards in. that national championship game. Uh, fun. fact, he was Idaho Gatorade Player of. the Year. So, in Idaho, what did he do? His dad said he woke up at 5:00 a.m. every single day to brand cows before he. went to high school and before he was. playing football. Um, and like Debbut. said, he was their entire passing. offense this year because of the.

quarterback situation, their lack of. weapons, but Coulson Lovelin, two-time. all Big 10, 66, 250, incredible target. There was always a chance. We started. hear that, you know, it only takes one. team and half the teams had Coulson. Lovelin as their number one, half the. teams had Tyler Warren as their number. one based on their offense and what they. were looking for. I think I joined you. guys last week and I told you I spoke. with an offensive coordinator who was. freaking out over the thought of getting. Lovelin. Is there a chance I can get and. his team's in the 20s and I was like, "No, dude. He's not." I said today on.

that NFL live show he's going to go top. 10 and he might go earlier than that. 10. is perfect. I I you know, tweet me out. whatever you want. My favorite pick of. the draft so far is Colston Love to the. Chicago Bears. That offense, that. coordinator, that quarterback, and then. to also have Roma Dunes on one side. I I. love this. Oh, DJ Moore. I love this. Colton Lovelin could be like, you know, one of those breakout rookie tight ends. that we get every so often. Hell yeah. Brock Bowers last year with the Raiders, obviously broke some records. Matt Mill, do you feel the same way as Peter.

Shreger? I do absolutely love Coulson. Love him. Had him a little bit lower on. my big board than Tyler Tyler Warren. What I'm most excited about though, is. now for the next 5 months, we're going. to hear about how the Bears are going to. win the [ __ ] Super Bowl. It's the. best. It's the best pick ever. We might. as well cancel the rest of the draft. There's no reason to do it. That. goofball, Ben Johnson, he's going to. goofball. He's a great coach. Well, you. saw the video when he first walked into. Hall looking like a [ __ ] goofball. Clap. No, he did not. I wish No. What. are you talking about? I wish him the. best of luck. I really do. I do love the.

Coulson Loveland pick though. Deoxion. You pair him with Cole Kit. their. offense is going to be something. special. Now, we'll see if if Caleb can. kind of reach where he should be. Yeah, definitely. I I I'm going to go back off. what your point you made about matchups. You know, when you look at coverage. unit, you know, we always talk about the. one piece, the corner, the two-piece is. either a nickel or so, but the. three-piece is either a linebacker or. insert safety. Now, that's you better. have a damn good coverage unit here cuz. he's going to get a lot of matchups on.

the three-piece in, you know, versus. coverages in the National Football. League. election. AJ, Michigan man going. early here at tight end. Got to love it. Yeah, of course the matchup thing is so. real because there these big body dudes. say it's third and six. The guy runs. out, he pivots away, he uses body, he. boxes me out, he catches like there's. just there's matchup issues that these. guys will prove when they're athletic. like that. And you're right, the. production might not be crazy cuz they. didn't throw the ball. I think they do. 12 personnel with this. I mean, what is. Ben Johnson going to do? Probably do. that. Yeah, the entire time. Yeah. And. then what's that mean for you at DB? Uh.

well, with how the defenses are now, most of these teams try to out nickel. regardless of unless you're going jumbo. with 13 person, three tight ends or a. fullback or something. Most teams are. going to run out nickel, you know, 80%. of the time. So, you mentioned it when. you're in a second and seven and it's a. running pass situation and you got me. out there on coach Lovelin, you box me. out, that's a first down every time. It's just a matchup problem. He's a dog, too. I I just love watching this kid. play. Yeah. Hopefully Caleb gets better, right? I mean, he will. He's a lucky Ben. Johnson. I think he will. And Joe Tuni.

up front. I think uh San Francisco 49ers. are on the clock. I believe I believe. their pick is in uh currently paying. tribute to the military. Hell yeah. Shout out. Shout out military. Roger. Goodell is on his agame here. He really. is. Yeah, he's on [ __ ] Mcichel and. Walter Payton the last time. Now we got. Huh? Huh? Walter Payton man of the year. earlier. Okay, you're going to boo. You're going to boo military now. The. crowd's on their aame, too. They're. waiting. They're waiting. They.

understand. Okay, have some respect. Oop, they're saying oop, let's have some. respect. Now, Roger Goodell is headed to. the microphone to make the pick for the. San Francisco 49ers in the booze. Rain. down. USA. Oh, USA champ. Hell yeah. Here we go. Thank you to our men and. women who serve in the United States. military for your sacrifices to defend. our country's freedom. Hell yeah. Hell. yeah. Well said, Roger. Hell yeah. Hell. yeah. With the 11th pick in the 2025 NFL.

draft, the San Francisco 49ers select, Mike Williams, defensive end, Georgia. Okay, Mel Williams out of Georgia to the. 49ers. You know, you got Bosa over there. that uh you know, slow out of the gates. last year. I wonder if it was just. because they were fully focused on. Let's go to the draft cave. AP Tone, Mike Williams. Did we expect this? Yeah, we did. Uh DJ had him at up this far in. his draft. So did Shregs had him up. there in this at this far in his mock. draft. Uh Mike Williams in 2022 as a.

freshman led Georgia's national. championship team in sacks. He plays the. Jack linebacker position in Kirby's in. Kirby's defense which basically moves. him around everywhere. He's what 65 260. I believe. So yeah, he's going to play. opposite of Bosa. He's going to be. mostly an edge I believe in the NFL, but. he moved around a lot in college and he. is an athletic freak. This team, this. Niners team made its bones on being a. defensive line team. whether it was. Buckner or Armstead and of course Bosa. and over the years it's kind of. deteriorated and last year was an.

embarrassing version of that defense. especially for defensive line coach. Chris Cacer. Robert Salah's back in town. guys. Robert Salah had a big voice in. ranking how he liked these defensive. players. Robert Salah loved this dude. Mikuel Williams. So I saw Jed York the. owner and CEO just tweeted out Robert. Salah's back in the building. This might. as well be a return to the good old days. for the Niner gang back there in San. Francisco. I'll add one thing for Robert. Salah. Tumultuous couple months. Obviously gets fired by the Jets. He's.

out of work, goes to Green Bay, works. here kind of pro bono, then goes over to. the to the uh to the NerS. Robert Salah. had his eighth kid in between all of. that with his wife tonight. Eighth kid. So, congratulations to Bob Salah. Congrats on the sex. Let's go. Yeah, congrats on eight kids. That has to be. Congrats to his his wife as well. What. awesome lady absolute beast over there. As you saw AJ Hawk come back, he. couldn't he had to go to the bathroom.

obviously the Niners pick. Uh he was. talking about coach Salah going back to. San Francisco. Coach, let's talk about. that. Coach Salah whenever we saw him. with the Niners before he becomes a Jets. head coach. We're talking Joe, jacked. up, energetic. We saw the vein in his. forehead a lot. Then he goes to the. Jets. All joy, happiness sucked out of. him for a while. Comes into Green Bay. with the floor as one of his best. friends. Finding joy again in coaching. is probably something that's real. What. do you think about this pick and what do. you think about the Niners defense going. forward? I love what you said, joy. You. know, he get the joy back obviously.

going back. Um and and I think Peter. said it best. It's kind of like here we. go again with the 49ers. Another first. round draft pick. Excellent. Youthful uh. the common freak be made. He's young. started for Georgia as as a freshman on, you know, on a great great defense. So, um I mean this this guy is so disruptive. and uh how many how many how many uh. first round picks do they have in their. D line now? All of them. Seems like I. mean it's just the commitment has been. consistent there and it has served them. very well. Dallas Cowboys.

Dallas Cowboys just announced uh Roger. Goodell just announced the Dallas. Cowboys pick. It was Tyler Booker from. Bama. Yeah, the guard Booker from Bama. guard. Okay. Uh, shout out to Tyler. Booker getting drafted to the Dallas. Cowboys. We have the man who coached the. Dallas Cowboys literally last year in. the previous five years, I believe. Uh, Coach McCarthy, they go with an. offensive lineman here for the Dallas. Cowboys in Shotti's new tenure. Why do. you think this pick was made? And what.

do you think about this pick? Love the. pick, Mel. Love the pick. I'm telling. you. No, seriously. I I if you would. asked me who who we'd be picking, this. is this is the way I think go. I I I. think once again it a lot of. conversations. It's an offensive line. that is better today than it was, you. know, at point last year cuz they had. five young young offensive linemen play. a ton of football next year. Now you're. adding Tyler. So I think I think you're. back getting back to hopefully the good. old days in Dallas with an excellent.

offer. What are your thoughts on Dallas. Cowboys? you've told us over the last 24. hours, but obviously we haven't talked. about it. When they're now up on the. draft by uh draft board, it's time to. bring it up. It feels like you have you. enjoyed your time in Dallas and you have. no ill will at all. It feels like not at. all. I mean, I I I love I love my time. in Dallas. You know, I'm actually for. the first time I'm getting to enjoy the. city some the last couple months. So, great city, phenomenal organization. Uh. cannot say enough about Jerry and Jean. and Jones family. Super super cool. Um,

just the way you talk about a family. organization, Quint, the way you talk. about a close family. You guys are. asking me, "Hey, what's Jerry like?" And. we talked about the land man. That's. that's who he really is. You know, the. Land Man scene. I mean, so, um, great. time. I'm I'm I'm a better man today. than I was when, you know, when I went. to Dallas. That's awesome to hear. No, I. mean, he's he's such a great family man. Um, you know, the football experience. looking to do it a different way, you. know, with the way my experience in. Green Bay. So, obviously that has. benefited me some. And I and I'll just. say on in on a professional uh.

professional sense where I mean you sit. down and talk to Jerry about life, business, and things outside of. football, it's an education and and I'm. very thankful, you know, to him and his. family for the opportunity I had. Happy. to hear that. We love watching your. teams down there. Uh the quarterback, Dak Prescott, takes a lot he takes a lot. of heat because he's Dallas Cowboys. quarterback. Listening to you talk about. him over the last 24 hours has been. awesome. He's they get him protection. obviously with Tyler Booker, but Dak's a. guy, right? Yeah. I mean, and you know, I think part of working there because of.

the content driven around the football. team. I was actually surprised to hear. what you guys thought of him, frankly. I. mean, you know, I he's uh as natural a. leader as as I've ever worked with. I. mean, the work ethic that he has and it. translates to that. That's a hell of a. locker room. That's a good that's going. to be a good football team this year. I. do. I think there'll be 10 plus wins, playoff caliber football. I think Brian. will do an excellent job. He's prepared. for this. He's been there three years. He knows the do's and don'ts and he'll. do it his way and so forth. But there's. a lot to love in Dallas and I think. playing in a tough division, you know,

with the Eagles and give them credit. for, man, what a great run they had, you. know, and the championship that they won. and the way they won it and also what. Dan's done in Washington. So, I mean, Dallas Cowboys that that that'll be a. hell of a division. And hey, let's talk. about the Giants, too. You know, they. got better today, too. Yeah, obvious NFC. NFC East is a beast. That's a hell of a. that's a hell of a division. You guys. got a lot of traveling in the NFC East. when you Dallas Cowboys. Didn't even. think about that for a while. Uh, Shreger had Tyler Booker mocked to the. Dallas Cowboys. Let's go to the draft. game. Shrekes. How'd you know? Why'd you.

know? Uh, just everyone told me I was. stupid. Let me let me take a moment. here. Let me flex. Let me do something. we used to do in about 2014. Let me dab. a little bit. Oh. Oh, wow. That was a. dab. Yeah, I saw it. Yeah, that my mock. draft sucks right now. And this one was. what I needed. I got the Cowboys pick. right. Let's go. I'm back on the train. Let's go. Come on. He was He was fired. up here. Stone knows. He was Kelly. Tell me about. Booker, brother. All right, so Booker, everyone who talks about Booker with the. that is Alabama compares him basically.

to Will Ander Will Anderson, they say he. is the Will Anderson off the offensive. side of the ball. Team captain. He shows. up every day. You know exactly what. you're going to get from him. Uh just. like steady Eddie guy that you know what. he's going to be and he's going to be. there for you every single day. And kind. of a not miss guy. Looks like he's got. juice. Look at him dancing. I love this. energy. Lot of juice. He is. His hands. and feet are I love watching like his. initial punch and his feet, dude. It's. like little pistons. His feet in the. ground. Watching the push this dude can.

get. I mean, like as a defensive player, when a a guard is a big strong guard. like this that pushes people around, I'm. not like you pay attention. You know. where that guy is at all times because. he could take your head off at any. moment. Matt Mel, your thoughts on. Booker to Dallas. Absolutely. Love the. pick. You look at him 66 325. He's a big. son of a [ __ ] Obviously, I think the. thing that really the thing that really. put him over the top and kind of got. this done, we heard the clip from last. year. Jerry uh Jerry knew how big his. hog was. He had.

easy that's kind of what took for that. But that's the second uh pick here. Someone retires. You know, Ramch with. the Saints, he retires, they take a. tackle. Zack Martin with the Cowboys, he. retires, they take a guard. Dolphins. Now you wonder, especially because these. linemen are going Terron Armstead, they're kind of left tackle stud. You. wonder if they go back to tackle last. year too, the Super Bowl champs, that. was kind of a question coming in with. Fletcher Cox on the defensive side. retiring, Jason Kelce retiring and.

moving on. And obviously they re rebuilt. and went on a run. What was it like uh. having Zack Martin, one of the all-time. great guards in that building? I mean, Zach, I mean, he's a yellow jacket all. the way through. I mean, great leader. Um, super pro. I mean, I can't say. enough about him. you know, he actually. played through some injuries the last. couple years, but talk about a man that. played at a high level so consistently. for a long time. So, I mean, he'll be. missed. The man will be missed and. obviously his performance, but that's. once again, I think this is a this is. the right pick. Yellow jacket, not gold, huh? It can be whatever you want to.

show. I'm getting tired of getting. corrected up here. I tell you what, this. is [ __ ]. You say, "Oh, god damn." You say yellow. jacket was awesome. That was just I've. never heard that. I've never heard that. sentiment before. We need you to talk. more, not less. I'm going to start. calling Hall of Famers as yellow. jackets. It is yellow. It is. They try. to soup it up with saying it's gold. That thing is a yellow jacket. No. problems asked. The Miami Dolphins are. on the clock. AFC East problems these.

Miami Dolphins. Bubble Gumpino obviously. in the truck right now wondering what. the Dolphins are going to do to get them. back in Super Bowl contention. Yeah, AFC. East problems I'd say for themselves. Maybe. Uh, I I know for a fact that. Bubba Gumpino is thinking to himself out. of Boy F, boy oh boy, they better not. screw this up. I'm I'm assuming he wants. Tyler Warren. I know in my heart that's. what Gumpy wants, but I also know in my. heart they'll probably go somewhere else. because Gumby wants that. I do feel good.

as a New England Patriots fan kind of. seeing what's going down in Miami, stuff. off the field, things of that nature. Hopefully they get the right guy who. doesn't kind of look left and right at. all the clubs and uh strip clubs and. push and the nice weather and basically. everything that has kind of screwed up. their team and Jaylen Ramsey on the way. out as we've all heard. Well, and I. think you know you you look at another. team in the AFC East who just can't seem. to get it right. You look at the Jets, you look at the Dolphins, it's I mean.

what what can this team do to kind you. know [ __ ] they couldn't win a Super Bowl. with Dan Marino? You kidding me? I mean, you know, it's they got so many holes on. the roster. It's kind of a, you know, you close your eyes, you throw at the. dart board, and whoever it lands on, you. could probably guess, yeah, we need this. guy to make our team better. Uh, there. are reports out there that they're going. uh dtackle. Oh, nice. There are reports. that they're going. We are obviously not. uh tipping picks here. No, never. We we. would not do that. Uh, but there are.

reports that uh Oh, no. They are. They're taking a guy out of Michigan. Okay. Jason Grant. Yeah. Kenneth. Kenneth. I think Kenneth Grant. I think. maybe maybe I don't know. Here comes. Kamish confirmation. Pick in the 2025. NFL draft. The Miami Dolphins select. Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle. Michigan. So, the reports that we've. seen were potentially right. And uh you.

know that's that's great news for the. Miami Dolphins. Let's go down to the. draft cave. AP Tone, is this what they. needed down in Miami? I don't know if. this is what they needed or not. Um this. is a this is kind of a shocker. Uh there. was some teams or some mocks that had. Kenneth Grant going in the first. Um but. it was a lot later in the first. Now he. is a big boy. He is 6'4 330 and when he. was next to Mason Graham, they were two. of the best DTackles together. There's a. video. I'm not sure if this is the one. where he tracks down Kron Allen way down.

the field knows him just run stuffing. Uh he is a big boy. He's a run stuffer. The thing is will he be on the field for. all three downs, but when he is on the. field, you are not running past it. Oh. yeah. Here's the video right here of him. hustling downfield, driving down Kron. So he's an athlete. He's a dog and you. cannot run on him. Okay. Uh we love. that. Now the Colts are on the clock and. uh from what I'm reading on the. internet, I would like to raise a cup.

to Shane Styens offense offense adding. an absolute dog from the tight end. position out of the Pennsylvania State. University. Cheers to the Colts getting better and. to all dreams coming true here in. beautiful Green Bay, Wisconsin. Here's. Michael Cory. It's a yellow jacket crowd night. Still got it. This is a yellow jacket. crowd and uh there's a McAfee jersey.

down there which I'm very thankful for. Um let's go down to the draft game cave. AP tone the Colts obviously we bring in. Daniel Jones to compete with Anthony. Richardson. That's going to be an open. competition. Good luck to both men. What. I'm hearing from Anthony Richardson's. off season, too. Can't wait to see him. continue to grow as a professional. More. football the better for Anthony. Richardson, who did not play a lot of. football in college, which we're seeing. is maybe a little bit of a downside to. leaving and going to the NFL early.

Nonetheless, any year could be a. breakout year for him if it's Daniel. Jones. Cool. Shane Styen runs an. offense. Almost got to the playoffs and. won the AFC South with Gardenner Mchu. What are the Colts looking at this year, you think, at the draft? And let's say. they add a tight end from Penn State. What does that mean? And who are they. getting? So they were mocked at tight. end whether it was Warren or Lovelin in. 99.9% of of mock drafts. So if they do. get Tyler Warren, they are getting a guy. who had an incredible breakout season in. 2024. He set tight end records at Penn.

State this year. He had a game where he. had 17 catches for 224 yards. Uh I mean. he coming out of high school, he was a. quarterback prospect who was committed. to Virginia Tech to play quarterback. You're going to see on these highlights. he run blocks like a son of a [ __ ]. like you are. He is a pestery. [ __ ] Team going to hate him. He. plays Wildcat quarterback. He does it. all. Tyler Warren is a dog. We know. that. We watched him take a hit when I. can't remember which against Notre Dame. where he smacked he smacked his head so.

hard off the turf. He was out one play. because he is an absolute monster. Good. for the good for the Colts and he can. pass. Congratulations to Tyler Warren. coming to Indianapolis. He's at home in. Glenn Allen, Virginia. They're showing. his uh family and he's celebrating on. ESPN right now. Rosenhouse sitting right. next to him at a baby Rosen house. getting a front row seat to it. Uh Peter. Shger, a lot of talk of Colts getting uh. tight end. Uh this helps quarterback,

this helps Shane Stiken, or this is best. player that was going to be available at. the time the Colts were picking. It's a. tremendous pick. I don't think the Colts. expected Tyler Warren to be sitting. there without having to trade up to get. this guy. I had him in my mock trading. up to get Colston Lovelin because Warren. was already off the board. So, he slips. to 14. It's perfect. I was talking to. James Franklin earlier. He's like, he's. everything you could possibly want, not. only in a player, but in a culture guy. Never complains, nothing, and will do. everything. I was so high on these two.

tight ends. They're different. This is. more, and I, you know, you say the word. Grank and everyone say, "Oh, I don't. think he's Grank yet." This is more of. your grank type where he can obviously. catch the ball and do all this stuff, but he can also block his ass off. And. this is what everyone loves about Tyler. Warren. I had him going seven to the. Jets. He goes 14 to the Colts. Indianapolis got a lot better tonight, and that was a win to add Tyler Warren. both in the locker room, which I think. they needed someone like this in the. locker room and also on the field. Uh we.

added a bunch of guys on defensive side. to the locker room too that we are going. to love. Coach Mike McCarthy, your. thoughts on Tyler Warren to the Colts? Love the pick. I can't I just can't say. enough about his versatility. I think. the biggest thing when you look at tight. ends, do they can they play two. positions, two spots, three spots, or. four spot? This is a four spot tight. end. Special special player. I'm talking. about on the line, off the line, out in. the slot, but also in the back field. I. you look at his skill set. I mean, insert schemes and everything and then. the action passes that come off of that. This guy this guy's a full deal. This is.

uh this this will definitely help. Indianapolis. I love you see how he. plays Wildcat quarterback. Would you. ever do that in the pros? No, absolutely. I think that could carry. over. No doubt. Fourth and one, give it. to them. It could be I got to work on my. reputation, AJ. You know, I'm old. school, so I I probably need to jazz it. up a little bit with a couple trick. plays. That's Yeah. So, that's what I'm. That's what I'm told here on my time. off. So, hell yeah. We be throwing the. hell out of that. Well, I feel like Warren, he was not only best. available, but huge team need. We got no. production out of our tight end position.

last year. It was games, big moments. where we needed them. they didn't come. through. So, drafting this guy at a spot. they we didn't expect him to be. And. like you mentioned, we have a. quarterback competition with Anthony. Richen, Daniel Jones, and it's going to. help big time. Either one of those. quarterbacks ended up winning that that. uh job. Yeah. If you're a Colts fan and. you're watching that highlight tape, those that 44, you got to be seeing that. white Iowa son of a [ __ ] Dallas CL. going through your head watching these. clips. You got to be so pumped up if.

you're a Colts fan. I'm pretty sure Matt. Mel had Todd Warren pretty hot. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is an unbelievable. pick for the Colts. I think something a. lot of people are discounting. You say. 44, Dallas Clark. I agree. Maybe get. used to 14. He might be in that. quarterback competition because we don't. we don't know about these other guys. We. saw him, you know, taking the football. under center, running as a quarterback, throwing. I mean, just a a he's a five. tool player. I mean, this guy's. absolutely unbelievable. What a steal. for the Indianapolis Colts. Let's go. down to the draft game cave for about. five minutes or so. Uh, boys, the.

Atlanta Falcons are on the clock. A lot. of conversation about what they're going. to do with Kirk Cousins. What are your. expectations for this particular draft. pick as we all. take a. P. boys? I'll say this. The Atlanta Falcons. for what the last 25 years offense have. been the offense offense offense Drake. London, Bejian, everybody. But besides. that, they have been the last, I. believe, ranked last in the league as. far as sacks for like the last 20 years.

Do they finally go defense here? Is it a. Jaylen Walker tight? Is it too early for. James Pierce? Are we going to get one of. the edges here? Do you think Pierce. Walker makes sense? You know, got Baron. the corner. Remember Raheem Morris is a. defensive backs coach by nature. Maybe. they go with that route. Uh it will be. defense. I can't imagine for the fifth. straight year they're going to go. offense. The real question is what are. they doing with Cousins? So, a pick is. going to come in in the next couple. minutes and we'll get that and it will. be a defensive pick. I'll be shocked if. it's not. But then you got to wonder,

all right, we have this massive. albatross of Cousins who keeps on. showing back up to practices and he's in. the building, which is incredibly. awkward. He's there and like then you're. like, all right. So, they're paying him. this massive salary and yet he is. already known to be the backup and Penn. is ready to sore. So, I think the. Falcons are one of the more interesting. teams in the league right now. And after. Fontau has gone offense, offense, offense, and then quarterback last year, four years in a row, number eight.

overall picks to pick offense, you have. to think defense. We think they're going. to go defense, but we never know with. them. Obviously, the Penn last year. threw everybody off. But it after Kirk. went through what he went through last. year and wasn't playing Greg, Penn. looked like. unbelief with Drake London, that Tampa. game on a Sunday night, he was lights. out, throwing absolute laser. So we I. mean, we think they're going to go. defense. We're not sure potentially. Is. there a a pick so far in this draft. that's surprised you? I I I don't want.

to say I was surprised by the the. Colston Lovelin one. Yeah, they've chose. Lind over Warren and that's a big. decision. It was and especially cuz like. Cole KT he can block but he's you know. he's also receiving tight end as well. Was there a pick that stands out to you. that Well, Kenneth Grant, we blew over. because we blew it over because of. course the Colts came and they got warm. But it's like the Dolphins, they do it. And now I'll say this, Steven Ross is a. Michigan man. And Steven Ross is the. owner and the business school there is. the Ross School of Business. And I think.

if there's ever a debate of do we want. this guy or this guy, the Michigan man. might have some sway in that building. I. would also add that Wink Martindale, whether or not he's got a big voice in. the NFL or not, Wink was a defensive. coordinator at Michigan. He had Mason. Graham and he had Kenneth Grant. Every. conversation that I had talking to Wink. about Mason Graham, he said, "Don't. forget the other big boy, Grant is a. mover as well." Think about Michigan. right now. They they did not go to the. National College Football Playoff. They. had a ton of injuries. They just had how.

many players? three in the top 15 and. Will Johnson's gonna go also. So, shout. out to Michigan, go blue, the whole. deal. Well, that I mean, talking about. the guys that that went, you know, it. kind of uh puts an onus on how important. the quarterback position is that they. did not have this year. Uh you had. Kenneth Green. I'm looking at it right. there. What? 22 to the Chargers, which. makes sense with with Yeah. Um Mter. Okay. So, the Browns had a pick, the. Giants had a pick, the Saints had a. pick. There's only been one quarterback. off the board. It's a good reset right.

now. It is. It is a good reset right. now. Are is there any So where's it. come? 21 now. Is there a chance that a. second quarterback comes at 21? Do you. think there's a chance that someone. potentially trades back up into the. draft or are we potentially done on. quarterback for that? Wait a second. We. got a visitor. Hold on. Here we go, folks. Is awesome. I'll tell you what, there's a portagon literally 10 ft away. Thank you boys for carrying this. business. You're doing a great job. Let's go. Uh yeah, look, Mike Tomlin's. got like the power to say screw it. I.

want Shadore Sanders. I'll take him at. 21. And I look to you. How would you. respond if that was the decision? And. Mike Tomlin's like, you know what? At. the end of the day, I like the kid. We. don't have a quarterback. Shador Sanders. is our guy at 21. I think every Steelers. fan has a bad taste uh in their mouth. from the where a similar draft where. there it wasn't a great quarterback. draft and the Steelers at 20 took Kenny. Picket because I feel like they they. felt like they needed to. Um, we're in a. situation tonight where the Browns have.

picked who are in a terrible quarterback. situation. The Giants have picked who. aren't in a great quarterback situation. The Saints picked and they don't have a. quarterback at all basically and none of. them took Shadur. So, if all these teams. pass off and is there a huge difference. between three and five and and nine and. 21? I don't know. They're all first. round quarterbacks. So, if the Steelers. uh I you know what, I don't think I'd be. pumped to be honest with you. We're be. honest. I don't know if I'd be pumped. about it. Well, I'll tell you this. The. fact that Shadore, who had everything.

filmed and was all about, you know, they. would never shine away from it. We. haven't seen his face on any broadcasts. right now. He's not at the draft. I. think they had an indication. This is. not a shock that we're sitting here at. the 15 pick and he hasn't been taken. Falcons are going to get the pick in. soon. I don't know who it's taken. I. would imagine it's a defender and I. would think it's in the front seven. I. have not looked at my phone, but I would. say this. Let's get to the pick because. here's Atlanta and you can't take. offense five years in a row. Yeah. Uh. Shriggs, on that note, thank you boys. No problem. For carrying that. That was.

really good work out of you. Um that was. a great break. Without a doubt. Roger. Goodell is heading to the podium to. announce the Falcons pick of a defensive. end pick in the 2025 NFL draft, the. Atlanta Falcons select, Jaylen Walker, defensive end, Georgia. Okay, so the. trench the trenches keep going. Yeah. Here for the Atlanta Falcons. What are. your thoughts here uh in the NFC South. getting Jaylen Walker big coach Mike.

McCarthy? No, absolutely. And and I. think Rahee that's an excellent pick for. them and uh just you know talking to. some people earlier that I'm not. surprised about at all. I mean the the. edge is you know same deal tackles edge. rushers corners and pretty soon I'm sure. we'll see a quarterback. This this guy's. I mean this guy's a real versatility. too. another coach's son, the. coordinator son. Can't wait to see him. play. What you got? Massive wingspan as. well. I got a a Stafford coach cuz we. were talking about it before that he's. going to love. So, he is one of eight. players across the FBS to play at least.

300 snaps at outside linebacker, 200. snaps at inside linebacker, and 50 snaps. at slot. So, he is a versatile piece. that uh they can move around down. And. that's finally a defensive pick for the. Atlanta Falcons in the first round. Their whole thing too going into the. combine, right, was they were just. meeting with defensive guys. That was. kind of the report at least. I don't. know if that ended up being true, but. the fact I mean I feel like a lot of. people had Jaylen Walker higher. I know. New England they were considering taking. him at four. That was the news uh. leading up to the draft tonight. What do.

your notes say, coach? Everything I agree with everything. that's been said. Son of a [ __ ] He caught me. I was. looking ahead, man. You're looking. ahead? Yeah. What are you looking ahead. for? Huh? What are you looking ahead at. right now? I'm just curious cuz the. tackle, you know what's next? What's. next? So that's what's next. I mean the. run, you know, this run has been Yes. of. tackles. We talked about the first 20. picks, you know, first 18 picks. If you. want off, you want an O line and trench.

player, you better get up there and get. it. So that's what's happened. Arizona. Cardinals currently on the clock. They. bring back Kus Campbell this off. seasonason. They sign Jacobe Brassette. to back up Kyler Murray. They resign. Trey McBride. they lose, you know, Zack. Pascal and Lopez. What is the thought. for the Arizona Cardinals down the draft. game, Peter Shreger? Yeah, look, we we. went last year and they of course got. the Harrison and they were happy and. then they went back and got Alexander, another good player. I Jonathan Ganon is.

a defensive backs coach at heart and. this kid from Texas is still sitting. there again. Pick is not in yet. I'm not. tipping any picks. Whoa. Whoa. You're. tipping picks. Right. I'm just saying I heard they loved Baron. and then I put it in my mock draft and. everyone's like, "We're not taking a. corner." So, we'll see. To me, that. makes a lot of sense for a team that has. a gaping hole at that position and the. number one corner not named Travis. Hunter still there. I just got something. thrown at me from the crowd. Shout out. to them. Very kind. It might be a.

pre-roll to be clear. So, they're trying to help out. Yeah. A. little bit of a gift potentially coming. from the crowd, which I'm very. appreciative. Um, but nonetheless, Arizona Cardinals. Peter Shreger's. tipping picks now, man. No, I'm not. I. don't know your thoughts on that, Matt. I swear. I don't know. Now, they better. not take them. Well, I'll tell you what, if they do, I'm going to walk off this. set down into the trailer and I'm going. to smack you in the [ __ ] mouth, okay? Because I thought you had a little bit. more respect for the game. I don't. understand it. Again, this is one of. those picks though where we'll see what.

happens with the Cardinals. They get. Josh Sweat. They kind of get, you know, one of the prize pieces of free agency. You mentioned Jonathan Gan and I know. he's the, you know, defensive backs. coach at heart. What does this guy love? Shots, explosives. Pew, pew, pew. So, we. could see maybe, you know, a a receiver. coming off the board here pair with. Marvin Harrison Jr. maybe to kind of, you know, let Kyler Murray reach that. next level and take this team to the. promised land. I uh the Cardinals are. such a fascinating team. Yes. You know,

they're they're like Kyler Murray such a. fascinating quarterback. Oh, yeah. Without a doubt. because we'll see. moments of like guy take over a game. We'll see times where the Arizona. Cardinals play much better than we could. have expected. I mean, there's been. numerous times where they play at a. level that we couldn't have expected. Ganon seemingly a great coach. Will they. ever be able to piece it all together? That's kind of the question about the. Arizona Cardinals. Oh, I like what he's. done out there. I mean, I I know just. competing against him. I I think he has. shown improvement in his time there and. you know, like anything uh you know, he's known for defense and I agree with.

you. I think we'll go corner here. corner potentially shranks. Is that what. they're doing? Don't know yet. I don't I. swear texted. I'm praying they don't. Now you guys talked about or somebody. mentioned wide receiver and Matthew. Golden. What if they pair her to Mecha. Iabuka back up with with Marvin Harrison. Jr. I like that. Like both those. pictures. Yeah, it would be nice. especially with McBride. One of the best. tight ends out there as well. Marvin. Harrison Jr. last year. Yeah. I think. um didn't like he wasn't stealing the.

conversation for the rookie of the year. conversation ever. Hey Pat, you know I. know the pick. It's not it's not Baron. So we can keep on going. Let's go. Let's. keep rolling. You weren't pick What is. the pick though? Sh. They're going. defense, but I'm not going to tell you. who. Keep going. Position on defense. Keep going. Keep going. Okay. Up front. Let's go. Keep it up. Okay. Is that like. front seven. like green? Maybe Mike Green out of. Marshall. It could have taken Mike Green. who obviously led the uh entire country.

in sacks this past season. Uh could. potentially be there that another. trenches pick though potentially coming. Mike McCarthy which we have talked about. since the jump of this draft that that. might be the trend here of the six other. draft spectacular. Yeah, I mean there's. so many so many big men on the you know. on the board. So yeah, definitely. I. think do they look around the division. like, "Hey, Kenneth Walker, Kairen. Williams, Christian McAffrey. Is that. ever a thought when they're thinking. about making their picks just because. they're a three stud running back?".

Well, hold on one second. Hold on one. second. Draft the Arizona Cardinals. select Walter Nolan. Okay. Defensive. tackle Mississippi. Congratulations to Walter Nolan getting. drafted to the Arizona Cardinals. Now, back to what you were about to talk. about. Do you draft to beat your. conference or what do you do? I don't. think I I don't think you're sitting. here today thinking about your about. your division. I'm sorry. Yeah. I mean, you're you're thinking about your. division all the time. Division games. are the most important thing about the. regular season. I mean, I love the.

format that they went to, I don't know, 7 8 n 10 years ago where you put the. division games at the end, the. competitiveness of it. It's all about. the division. That's what the regular. season's about. So, yeah. I mean, absolutely. I mean, when you're looking. your at your roster development, you're. always aware of what your division. opponents like. I mean, one thing about. this league, it's hard to win a Super. Bowl. But I'll tell you what, it's a lot. harder to go to the playoffs 8, nine, 10. years in a row and always be on the. doorstep. So, you look what Philadelphia. has done. I mean, you got to recognize. they've had the best line of football, but they've been able to sustain success.

over a period of time. And that those. are the things you definitely got to be. in tune with as you pick. And that's why. we we keep talking about the trenches. You know, Bradley Cooper's over there. making plays, too, for Philadelphia, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I love Well, go. ahead. I love Bradley Cooper. No, no, sorry to joke. Bradley Cooper actually. sitting in the owner's box. He opened. the said making plays. He announced the. team. Yeah, he is. I don't know if you. heard his introduction to the team. Got. the boys fired up. Got the boys fired. up. They I thought he meant on the field.

making plays. I mean, maybe if given the. opportunity, you never know. You put him. at slot, you know, maybe put him in the. defensive back field. He might. See, we're a good team, man. I teed that up. nice for you. I mean, that's that's what. we were practicing outside there. Yeah. Matt and coach coming together. Uh they. go dtackle in Arizona. Matt Bell, your. thoughts? I mean, I kind of love it, you. know, building up that Dline. Obviously, we were just talking about, hey, you got. to get after guys like Brock Pury. You. got to get after Matthew Stafford, you. know. I mean, we'll see what Sam Darnold.

does in Seattle. You got to get after. that guy. You got to be able to get. after the quarterback if you want to, you know, make a deep run in the. playoffs. Cardinals, you mentioned it, Pat. Every single year, oh, the. Cardinals start out 3 and 0. They play a. good team. They get their asses kicked. and they kind of go on a little schnide. We'll see if this is finally the year. that they can turn that around. He was a. monster at Texas A&M, then obviously. over to Mississippi as well. Mississippi. NIO invested in their Dline. Oh, yeah. And uh it certainly is has paid off. here. Now, the Bengals are on the clock. and obviously we've seen a lot of.

defensive linemen uh drafted. We've seen. the trenches drafted. Trey Hendrickson. is a big conversation with the. Cincinnati Bengals right now. Obviously, he's a friend of the program, so we. understand the situation very well. Are. they going to be able to pay him as well. as paying Jamar Chase Higgins this past. offseason? We shall see. Let's go down. the draft game. Peter Shreger, the. Bengals defense was not good last year. They get rid of Louis Anarumo. They got. new DC Trey Hendrickson issue happening. What do you think the Bengals are kind. of eyeing or thinking about here? Yeah, Al Golden is the new defensive. coordinator. Hold on one second. Hold.

on. [Music]. So good. So good. So good. [Music]. Look at this place. It's amazing. It's. awesome. They got juice. I don't know. what I didn't know what to expect, but. that's incredible. Smile. Got a lot of. beers in the sky. Green Bay. Sorry, Shreger. Uh, had to have that moment. with these people who've been standing.

out here for like 11 12 hours they're. saying out here for this draft. Go. ahead, Shregs about the Cincinnati. Bengals. What I told you guys on Tuesday. when I was with you, like if they take. Mike Green or Shamar Stewart or whoever. the defensive lineman is, it's unfair to. the kid because immediately you're going. to compare him to Trey Hendrickson and. it's like, well, you can't do that. They. have to at some point start addressing. the fact that this guy might not be. there. So, I would think defensive line. picks not in yet. Could go a variety of. directions, but trust me, the Bengals. know how bad and atrocious that defense.

was last year. It doesn't matter if. Burrow Higgins and Chase put up 40 a. game. Got to be able to stop someone. Uh. Tone Diggs, obviously the AFC North is a. little. scared. Sweet. [Applause]. Carolina, so good. So good. So good. What a time. [Applause]. Matt Bell. This is different than. Detroit. Much much more active. Well,

it's like I mean this this stadium's in. a neighborhood, so you felt like it was. going to be a little bit more homey. It. certainly is. Feels like we're a part of. something right now, coach. Definitely. not. This is unbelievable. Unbelievable. AP Tone, are you scared of the Bengals. in the AFC North? They got a guy. quarterback. They got their two wide. receivers. Trey Henderson, they think. it's going to get figured out. Draft. pick could change everything as Shregs. is sweet Carolina down there in the. draft game. Yeah, they better take. defense because uh I'm not afraid. You. know, the Steelers scored 40 the.

Pittsburgh Steelers of 2023 scored 40. points on the Bengals last year in a in. a victory, you know, and they uh pretty. sure they've had they've had those two. wide receivers in Burough for a few. years now. And I I think they're 14 and. 13 when they play together over the last. two years or whatever. So, no, unless. they sh up that defense, which, you. know, they might. Um, but no, no, definitely not worried about the. Bengals. Uh, there's a potential alleged. defensive end going to Cincinnati. Oh. Is what the conversation is. Mad Mel, we. assume defense was going to be the way.

the Bengals went. Yeah, without a doubt. And I think, you know, I I don't know. who the pick is. I haven't looked. I'm. not a sack of [ __ ] like Shakes. I'm not. going to tip picks. I'm not going to do. that. If it is a guy like Mike Green, I. love that pick. Explosive. Okay, you're. you're shaking your head. No, it's not. Mike Green. I don't know who it is. Whoever it is, though, I am curious. Okay, I am curious. I didn't see that. I'm going to act like I didn't see that. Whoever it is, uh, you got to go defense. here. Shrags, though, if they draft a. DN, is that kind of opening the door for. them to kick Tan Hendrickson's ass out.

It certainly, it certainly leads to that. conversation, which I says is like, look, we don't know what the deal is. with his contract long term. He's in his. 30s. He's amazing. We all know that, but. we're probably not going to give him. that big money. So, let's draft someone. with a rookie contract. Uh, I said it on. your show this week, like that's going. to be the position. And it's unfortunate. for the kid that if they get rid of. Trey, every Bengals fan is going to say, "Wait a second. He's not doing what the. guy before him did." Well, maybe he does. though. We don't know. We're not sure. how this guy's going to be. Coach. McCarthy, Trey Hendrickson. I think the.

biggest thing, too, number one, I don't. see Cincinnati kicking Trey to the door. I And once again, you need more than two. pass rushers. So, I mean, so once again, this is excellent depth. Also, the. possibility of a move and I I think you. do go rusher here and it's a smart pick. whether Trey's there or not. Roger. Business decisions factor, but you got a. chance to improve your football team. I. think they focus on the Dline here. Go. rusher. Keep Trey, too. Why not? Here's. Rogerell. Sweet Carolina. With the 17th. pick in the 2025 NFL draft, the.

Cincinnati Bengals select Jamar Stewart. defensive end Texas A&M. Congrats to. Shamar Stewart out of Texas A&M. They. are doing a pass rusher, which is Trey. Hendrickson's, you know, position. Is. that a sign of what's about to happen. with Trey Hendrickson or are they just. loading up on the Dline like every team. has seemingly done on this particular. draft night and with their mindset? What. are your thoughts on Shamar Stewart out. of Texas A&M and adding a pass rusher in.

that AFC North, coach Mike McCarthy? Definitely. Yeah, I mean just you once. again you watch the highlight tape. You. see the position flex, his ability just. to come underneath, but you know, let's. go back to Trey. I mean what you want is. Trey to help mentor this young man. So. yeah, I once again this this is a smart. pick all the way around. Let's go to the. draft cave AP Tone. Are you scared of. Shamar Stewart and Shrags? Is this. guaranteed a Bengals defense draft pick. since the beginning? If he puts it all. together, yes, I I am afraid of Sheamar.

Stewart. He is just an athletic combine. freak. He put up the exact same numbers. as Miles Garrett at the combine. He was. He ran a 459 and a 40in vert at. 65270. What? Which was just 65 270 459. with a 40in vert. Um coach talked about. the positions that he played. He played. all the way from three tech to edge. He's one of 15 players to have at least. 30 snaps at everywhere from three tech. all the way out to the edge. They used. him everywhere. Now the thing with. Shamar Stewart is his production. Talk.

about it. He had one and a half sacks. per year. One and a half every single. year. So four and a half sacks over his. three years. So the production does not. match his athletic ability. Now if you. want to look at it in pressures is a. stat that you know people don't love or. whatever, but he did get a ton he did. get a ton of pressures. Um so we'll see. if the production gets better in the NFL. cuz he is an absolute freak. And I I. talked to a GM about him because that's. the big knock. He only had three and a. half sacks over two years and he had. four and a half over three years. That's.

not good. Then you look at him and he's. an. absolute relax. Matt Mel's losing his. mind over there. Here's the note though. Here's the note. I spoke to a pretty. good GM and he's like, if you watch the. tape, he's there every single time. He. doesn't know how to close yet. Like. we'll teach him that. Absolute monster. I think 17 is right about where everyone. thought. And guess what, Trey. Hendrickson like this again lights the. fire under him. And of course it is. Obviously, they can work together, but. it also is, wait, we got our young guy. It happens time and time again in the. NFL. Shrekes, as you were talking there,

AJ said, "What does that mean?" What do. you mean? How can you teach a guy how to. close? Like, what do you mean like he. gets a lot of pressures, but he doesn't. get a lot of sacks? How do you That's a. better question for you. And I honestly. the GM Yeah. And I'll ask I'd ask coach, the GM is like he gets to the. quarterback every single time and then. he's not bringing him down. Like, can. that be taught at this stage in your. life? Yeah, definitely. I agree with. your point. I think number one, you. know, production, but disruption. you. know, he's got the disruption part. He's. got all the ability. And I think just. like anything, you you're in this first. round to sit there and be able to talk.

about a young man that has all this. ability, position flex and those things, and you say, "Hey, he still has a. ceiling here. I mean, he still has room. for improvement." So, as a coach, you're. excited about this cuz when you sit in. that draft room, at the end of the day, you fall in love just like everybody. else is, but you only get one pick in. the first round. So, but at the end of. the day, you want to know what he is, you know, and where where's the ceiling, where can we pro because we have to make. sure you define the role for the young. man and make sure he fits into, you. know, into the scheme and things like.

that, but absolutely to me closing on on. a on a rush. It's part of the. fundamentals of of the line play. What. are your thoughts on obviously him. learning and getting better and Trey. Hendrickson potentially teaching him, but also this potentially meaning Trey. Hendrickson is not a Bengal? Yeah, and. we've, you know, we've been around the. game for a long time in locker rooms. This is one of those situations where. they better get right if if it lead, especially if it leads to Trey. Hendrickson leaving because it's the. complete opposite. You you drafting a. guy based on upside and potential and. the opposite of that where Trey.

Hendrickson has been a a closer, a. production maker every year in and year. out. He's the lead league leader in sack. sacks right now. So, this is a guy every. year he's going to be productive. He's. going to play and he's going to close. and be that guy for your defense. So, if. you are moving on and going younger, this is the part of the draft though, the part of the first round where these. type of picks are made based on what we. can get upside and based on potentially. what we see down the road. Seahawks are. on the clock right now. They're in the. middle of a massive transition. Obviously, you guys from the Packers, uh, know a pretty important person over. there. Schneider. Uh, you're a guy you.

respect the [ __ ] out of him and we've. heard you talk about him the last 24. hours about how much you love his. football. [Applause]. ac era over there in Seattle. Yeah, definitely got a tremendous amount of. love and respect for John and you know. Pete him had a an unbelievable run up. there in Seattle. But yes, I think you. know when it comes to personnel um he. does he does an incredible job with his. roster development. So, it'll be real. curious to see where he goes. I think.

we'll trust his board here. I hope he. does. Here goes Gadell with the pick. Here we go. Pick in the 2025 NFL draft. The Seattle Seahawks select Gray Zable. O line guard North Dakota State. Okay. Northakota State creates dogs, especially if they're first round draft. picks. What do you you say they hope he. trusts the board? What do you think that. means? And what do you think? I think. just like anything, I mean, a lot a lot. of conversation about this young man, you got to go to the senior board. I. mean, that's that's where he really lit. it up. Had a hell of a week, and I know.

that that made a definitely a big. impression uh to the Seattle personnel. department. Offensive lineman selected. Let's go down to the draft cave. AP. Tone, North Dakota State. We love dudes. out of there. And Shreger, why was this. the pick for Seattle? Yes, we do. And to. coach's point, he won uh voted on by the. players at the Senior Bowl. He won. practice player of the week at the. Senior Bowl. Uh he's one of the most. versatile offensive linemen in the. draft. He played all five positions in. college. Um he started all 16 games at. left tackle this year, but he's most. likely going to be a guarder. Why don't.

they try him at tackle? Honestly, why. he's he's almost 6'6. Why can't you try. him at tackle, coach? Would you would. you try to give him a shot? He played. tackle in college. No, absolutely. I. think he plays the best position he can. But I I think that the thing I want to. make want it was a great point is five. position flex. Yeah. This 17 game season. going 18, that's a real deal. You know, the ability to have an offensive line to. have those five starters line up and. play a whole season. It's it's it's it's. harder and harder and harder. Oh yeah, by the way, the offseason program, you. know, the offensive line development is.

the biggest challenge is a hey coach, as. you sit there and outline the offseason. program, get ready for training camp, you know, that's the group that causes. you the most stress cuz you know they're. not getting the amount of work that the. other positions are able to get. So, uh, that position flex is that to me there's. there's a lot of value. I think the. Green Bay Packers do an incredible job. with the position fleck of their. offensive line. I think you have at. least two guys that can play five. positions. Versatility is obviously a. big deal, especially whenever there's a. lot of turnover throughout the season, a. lot of injuries, and who can fill in and.

play where. We saw the Chiefs move their. allpro guard to tackle throughout the. entirety of the season. Let's go down to. the draft cave. Shrekes, do we know the. Seattle Seahawks were going to take. offensive lineman and also huge turnover. over there in Seattle? That's not an. easy task at all. No. And we're talking. about a whole new identity for this team. and they fired their offensive. coordinator after just one year. So, they're trying to get something else. going here, too. Gray Zable was the not. only the star of the Senior Bowl, but. really impressed everyone at the. combine, too. I was told this week Gray. Zable would be a top 20 pick, and I had.

a GM tell me, "I'd be shocked if he fell. out of the top 20." That's pretty high. praise for an interior lineman most. likely in the NFL out of North Dakota. State. Uh, and once again, I had him go. in there in my mock draft. Let's go. Dab. for it. Dab for it. Dab for it. Natural. You look very natural. Pat, I have a uh. staff for you that you you'll love. He. was obviously a zero star come out of. high school. Uh went to North Dakota. State to North Dakota State for farming. He just bought 250 acres near his. family's farm to plant some corn. Yeah,

he's going to kill some land. I respect. that just like he's tilling Dlineman. now. Also, another stat about this guy. Uh Ian Rapaort tweeted he's a former. lefty pitcher who threw in the low 90s. Oh yes. Uh whenever he was in high. school. They're getting an absolute dog. up there, Mad Mel. Yeah. I hope he's. great at football because a lefty. pitcher throwing in the low. I mean, this this [ __ ] guy could have made. $350 million playing Major League. Baseball. But, but you look at the Seahawks, you. know, coach talking about positional.

flexibility. Obviously, you get and I. say this in the most endearing way. You. get a [ __ ] hay seed from North Dakota. who's got a meme streak in him who wants. to go out there and just eat nails for. breakfast. We saw what Sam Darnold could. do with a clean pocket. Obviously, Gino. was under duress quite a bit this year. I love this pick. Again, I hope this kid. pans out because it looks like he may. have turned down a a potential, you. know, Hall of Fame baseball. If he was. [ __ ] throwing 90 m an hour in high. school as a lefty, this guy might have.

been like a top five pick in the MLB. draft. Yeah. But instead, he's a first. round draft pick, offensive lineman out. of North Dakota State. Go Bison. We love. everything about that. These smaller. schools, whenever they get a guy. drafted, I feel like it's a more short. pick. Just in my eyes, I'm like, they. must know that this guy's a real guy cuz. the competition, how do you judge? You. know, it's always the knock on the small. school guys. So, my favorite part about. it, what everyone is saying is he had. the best week at the Senior Bowl. So, I'm sure he was jacked up for that. because that's the time he's going to. see those guys on the even playing. field, the best competition, and then.

you show up to a combine, which is. another high pressure situation. And he. went up there and showed his ass there. as well. So I love when small guys come. in when they step up in the big time. stage like you said that that bows well. for the big time stage on coach McCarthy. you mentioned the senior bowl for him. very important whenever you're at like. North Dakota State the senior bowl week. right yeah big time and I I think. another thing too just when you hear. everybody talk about them is level of. self-discipline you know and I think you. see that in the trend when you get these. guys that come from a little smaller. program because you know when you do. play big time football you know you're.

you know it's the factory of how. everything is done is laid out for you I. mean look I mean we had to put up with. that [ __ ] with AJ when he But they got. the Green Bay from Ohio State. But no, but I think the smaller, you know, programs, but your level high. self-discipline has to be higher and you. just hear all these great things to say. about them. And I think this position. flex is important. Buccaneers. Buccaneers are on the clock and Adam. Shfter tweeted that they are picking. So. I guess that means they're not trading. Is is that the conversation? Because. they're saying now on the internet there.

is a lot of phone calls happening for. the rest of this first round. allegedly. right now there's a lot of activity. coming up or people want to go back I. think only one quarterback taken like. we're talking about the beginning of the. draft how many teams needing. quarterbacks like I feel like a lot of. people thought Jackson Dart would be. gone you know by 10 probably and him. still being there feels like a surprise. like if you're the Steelers this would. be a time where it's like hey if they. like Jackson Dart or even Shadur Sanders. like do you even risk it like do you. even just go up one spot to Denver even.

though you know Denver's not taking. quarterback. I wonder if our. conversations about what the quarterback. uh draft class is is a little different. than what the team's conversations were. about the draft class. I wonder if the. media speculation of what the. quarterback draft class is. Both at the. beginning of the draft cycle was like. this is not that good of a draft class. Then we all bought in. I think of course. I think all of us bought into a lot of. things. We still have a lot of picks. left and you know we're still in the. teens. So, let's remember we got a long. night still ahead of us, but allegedly.

there's a lot of phone calls happening. towards the end for people that maybe. want to get back in. Maybe it is for a. quarterback. Maybe it is to move up to. do their thing. I believe the Buccaneers. uh are going offense uh from what we. have seen on the internet. Uh not a. quarterback. Obviously, they're happy. with Baker Mayfield and have extended. him. What a Hey, how about Baker. Mayfield going down there and just like. I don't want to say a rebirth, but just. like a fullon new career. I mean, you. got to love his story. you know, Lake. Travis High School, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, just the whole the whole deal.

And then, you know, number one pick. there in Cleveland. So, you know, I'm. I'm very very happy to see him have the. success because you talk about a dog. playing the quarterback position. Yeah, they might get another. Ohio State wide receiver. Nice pick. Ohio State drafted to the Buccaneers. So, they had a weapon. Baker likes that. Yeah, they had a weapon for Baker. Mayfield. AJ, this guy was not talked. about by a lot of people. And I think. Kirk Herbstre brought up like, "Hey, this guy's a guy that nobody has talked. about. He'll block his ass off. He has a.

humility factor about him that doesn't. get chatted about a lot, especially. first round wide receivers. He's been an. afterthought basically in every offense. at Ohio State. Still had production. Still a guy. He's obviously led them to. a national championship. How do you feel. about this Buccaneers pick for Baker. Mayfield?" I mean, you talk about like. receivers running the full route tree. and having like being an absolute. technician. We saw him play in the Rose. Bowl in the college football playoffs in. person. It's it's great to see, but. Brian Hartland has a receiver factory. going there at Ohio State and how he. coaches these guys up. I mean, IA's.

number one receiver really anywhere else. in the country probably, right, Debb. Button? He's at Ohio State. It's almost. like he's an afterthought, but we know. how much of a weapon he was from seeing. him in person. I think it's a great pick. for the Bucks. And I also he's another. one of those guys where he has all the. physical physical tools and skills, but. he also seems to have the character to. go with it as well. Yeah, he I mean, he's incredible. all the things you. said, but me watching him as a DB, as a. receiver, his understanding of spacing. and coverage and how to present himself. to the sits down when he needs to. He. knows that he he he's a professional. already at the college. Absolutely. He's.

a quarterback's best friend on that. highlight tape. You go back specifically. to that play against Oregon is something. you don't see with young receivers are. coming out of the draft or coming into. the draft in year one, like those late. hands and that deep seam ball to split. those safeties. for him to remain calm, remain relaxed until the ball is there. at the very very last second. That is. very, very tough for a defender because. a defender a lot of times we're in that. trail position, especially a linebacker. underneath. You've been in this position. run through and cover two, which you're. going to see a bunch in the NFL. You're. reading the keys of that receiver when.

those hands and those eyes get big, that's when you react. So for him to. have the patience, the understanding, the savviness in this play right here, right in the slot, number three, that's. always a problem for defense. line up. speed at three, knowing exactly where he. is, being under control, laying hands, walking touchdown. So, big time play and. that's what he does. And he blocks his. ass off too down the field. I respect. that at wide receiver. I like the singalongs we got going. [Music].

Okay, so greatest singalong song in um. history of singalong songs. Baker. Mayfield gets another weapon. Mike Evans. obviously just going to be a constant. thousand yard receiver. Now they got a. guy who's not scared to do the gritty. work for that offense down there in. Tampa. Well, I think all the great. points have been made. He is plug and. play. He can play the one, he can play. the two, he can play the three. Also, you're going to love him on first and. second down because now he can come in. there, set up that play action pass cuz. he does the dirty work. So, this is an. excellent excellent addition. Yeah, you.

remember that clip during the national. championship before the Jeremiah Smith, you know, inside fade on third down for. them to basically win the game. I was on. the sideline talking to Will Howard. saying like, "Hey, hey, when we get this. coverage, we need to run this." So, you. talk about like knowing football too, having him. They got McMillan last year. from Washington who was also young. receiver. Then they resigned Godwin too. Let's head into the draft cave. Shrekes, did we know wide receiver was coming to. Baker Mayfield's offense? I mocked him. having uh McMillan there, but he's gone.

I love Ibuka. Here's the one story I got. on Ibuka. You guys know it well well. well deeper than I do. I don't follow. the college game. At the combine, a. decorated head coach had lunch with me. after meeting with Ibuka and was. physically and emotionally just. completely blown away by the kid he just. met. He's like, "That guy can marry my. daughter. That guy can be the captain of. our team as a rookie. That guy was. unbelievable as a character person. So. you put him in that room with Mike Evans.

and Jaylen McMillan and of course Chris. Godwin. I look, you can never have. enough good wide receivers. They say you. want to have it like a basketball team. All different sizes and different roles. He plays a role that they don't. currently have. So I you guys know him. well more than I've never met the kid. I. hear unbelievable things. He goes top 20. and goes before Matthew Golden, which is. actually really interesting. Congrats to. Mecha Ibuka cuz his stats and not being. the number one guy. Go ahead, AP. Well, no. I was I was going to say the only. thing that you guys have missed is he's. the all-time leading receptions guy for.

Ohio State. Is that right? Like not as. the number one guy. So, this is who he's played with. Marvin. Harrison Jr., Jackson Smith and Jigba, Chris, Garrett Wilson, Jeremiah Smith, Carnell Tate, and he's the dude. And he. and he's a four-time alltime Big 10 or. sorry, fourtime all Big 10. Like, it's. crazy. Yeah, I love it. Mad Mel, do you. love it? Yeah, I love it. I wanted this. guy really [ __ ] bad. So, I'm uh a. little upset right now, obviously. Uh. who's that to Mad Mills University? The. Packers. Yeah. Yeah, the Packers. I. would love a guy like that. Obviously, we'll see what they do. Uh he's not a.

[ __ ] diva. That's the big thing. I. mean, Diggs just mentioned he played. with all these guys. Never bitched, never pouted, never hit the transfer. portal. Said, "Fuck this. I'll go to, you know, jerk off state and be the. number one guy for 100, you know, you. know, 200 more." Why is he like that, coach? What's happening here? What's up. with this guy, coach? Guy loves ball. Guy loves ball, coach. What university? What university could. he have transferred to? Well, I said he. didn't want to [ __ ] go to jerkoff. state. Ohio State, win national.

championship. I don't know. What state. is that? No, Yuma. Arizona. Yuma. Uh, the Denver Broncos are currently on. the clock. Obviously, last year's pick. at Bon Knicks was a success story. throughout the season. They took an $80. million uh cap or 90, whatever the. number is. biggest cap hit in the. history to move on from Russell Wilson. Shawn Peyton obviously had the blessing. of ownership whenever he took the job. Hey, if I don't like Russell Wilson or. this doesn't work out, I'm allowed to.

move on no matter what the cap hit is. They did that. They rolled the dice. They drafted Bo Knicks. Shawn Peyton on. draft night joined us and talked about. how much he loved Bo Knicks literally. from the moment that he met him. Said he. can make all the throws. They got better. throughout the entire season. Obviously, the AFC West is a stacked division that. is very difficult, but Shawn Payeyton is. a winner and uh I assume whatever pick. they make is going to be the right one. Coach McCarthy, how do you feel about. Shawn Peyton and how do you feel about. everything he's done? I think he's. definitely you're seeing his football. team come in the light now. I mean, he's.

clearly got his his his fingerprints all. over everything that they're doing and. and especially from the quarterback. position. Always respected Shawn. You. know, our our our careers paralleled. each other for quite some time as. quarterback coaches and so forth. So he. was a guy that I always watched what he. was doing whether he was, you know, in. New York and down there in Dallas and. then, you know, there with the Saints. and now in Denver. So you really seeing. that come together and you already made. the point about the division. You talk. about four coaches now. I mean that. that's and Sean's the youngest, you.

know. So I mean I mean that's that's. nuts. Jim Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, Andy. Reid, and Shawn Peyton all in one. division. Yeah, that AFC West now that's. that's fun to watch. Uh let's go down to. the draft cave. Trags, what are your. thoughts on what the Denver Broncos are. looking for? It's my guy Sean P. I know. he liked Loveland. He really liked. Ibuka. He liked Genty, but he also liked. a defensive player. I'm not going to say. anymore. Ah, tipping picks. Defense. tipping picks. No. Bar is a safety.

corner. This is what they're saying. Sharks. One. of those wishes will be coming true. right now. Hell yeah, brother. Sam is a. 17-year-old Broncos fan who has bravely. battled cancer. Hell yeah. Sam, let's go, dog. Looks good. Suit looks. His wish is to. announce the first round draft pick for. his favorite team. Please join me in. cheering on Sam as his wish comes true.

Take it away, Sam. Go, Sam. Hell yeah. Yeah, Sam. Yeah. Let's go, Broncos. Yeah, I love it. All right, with the 20th pick in the. 2025 NFL draft, the Denver Broncos. select Jade Baron DB Texas. Nailed it. Good pick. Absolutely nailed. it. Corner goes to Denver. Uh, congrats. to Baron on becoming a member of the.

Denver Broncos defense. That is. phenomenal. Yes, that defense has been. like top five defense forever seemingly. Obviously, you joined Patrick Certain. and the boys over there. How do you feel. about this pick? I mean, I love this. pick. Already a pretty good secondary, especially at the quarterback position. with the reigning defensive player of. the year, Patrick Certain on one side, Raleigh Moss on the other side, and then. McMillan in the slot. So, a lot of. people that I've talked to can see this. guy playing on the outside or the. inside. He was a very productive uh. interior slot defender, a great great.

communicator. He can coverage, he can. tackle, he can do everything on the. outside, he went and just uh he just won. a Thorp award last year for Texas. So, he can play anywhere. Absolute dog. Uh. speaking of joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, the general manager of the. Seattle Seahawks, John Schneider. Thank you for joining us. A lot of. people here in Green Bay sending their. love. Thank you for taking the time. You. roll with Gray Zable. Can you just. chitchat about that a little bit in the. middle of this transition time for your. Seattle Seahawks?

Yeah, great great, you know, position of. need for us. Uh, you know, great great. kid, great guy. He's a, you know, one of. the 30 3030, so 30 bench, 30 ver, 30. test score. And I went down to the. senior bowl against that, uh, competition down there and just had a. great week. You know, he's voted like. the scouts vote him the, you know, competitor, you know, best practice. player of the week. And then, you guys. know, a lot of those guys split. He. actually, he could have left. He stayed. and played in the game. And, yeah, we. were hoping he'd be there. you know, we. had stuff going on, but um it's just. like a really clean, safe, neat, good.

We love it. We love the pick. Yeah, we. we learned a little bit about him being. a lefty pitcher, maybe throwing in the. low 90s as a high schooler, obviously. Great athlete and that whole thing. I. assume he's great for the culture as. well as you're trying to establish that. Is that a big part of your uh scouting. and evaluation? Yeah, absolutely. You. guys know, you know, Steve Hudson works. with us. He's actually the highest, you. know, offensive lineman or highest guard. we've taken since uh since Hutch was. here. And uh yeah, just um.

Sorry, they're beeping in on there. Sorry. Sorry about that. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. He's just he's just he's. just like this he's just like this, you. know, u just a badass, man. And like, you know, Hush loved him. We were all, you know, that that mentality, like that. nasty mentality. We just love adding. this kind of our kind of guy to this to. that room. Coach McCarthy and AJ Hawk. have been singing your praises, brother. You need to know that. Bye, guys. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you, Johnny. Coach, what'd you think of his pick? Yeah, love.

the pick. I mean, God, I could repeat. everything I said, John. Great pick. He also said, "Trust the board, right?". You know what? Yeah, trust the board. And then, you know, he he's done this. for a long time. So, he's he's been part. of a, you know, great SCH scouting. history. Ron Wolf established that in. 1992, and John's had a phenomenal. career. So, I mean, he knows what he's. going for. Go ahead, AJ. John, what do. you think? You think you might try to. trade back up and get a couple more. picks in this first round tonight to. keep things interesting? Thinking about it, brother. Thinking. about it. Really? Hey, they're saying.

it's very active right now. Are the. phones very active right now? Uh, not not not anywhere near as much as. we expected, you know. I thought there. was going to be a lot more going on and. um just really quiet, you know, so kind. of bummed in that regard. It's more fun. when people are moving around, hopping. around the board, you know. All right. All right. Well, congrats on your uh. pick. You are you guys going to hit. Nikki's tonight? You guys hitting Nikki. or they going? We don't need to leave. here, man. This place is rocking. Your. hometown is rocking tonight, John. Oval. Office, I thought. Awesome. All right. Oval Office. Come on. Reservation.

Ladies and gentlemen, general manager of. Seattle Seahor. Thank you. John didn't. know you're talking about con man. Was. that John doesn't know what you're. talking about overall? No, you told me. to fit it in there when John was on. All right. Roger Goodell will be walking. to the stage. Yep. Right now to announce. the Steelers pick. Thank you to John. Schneider for joining us with the 21st. pick in the 2025 NFL draft. The. Pittsburgh Steelers select Derek Harmon.

Defensive tackle Oregon. All right, so. let's just go directly to the draft. cave. AP Tone obviously die hard. Pittsburgh Steelers fan. They're showing. some Steelers fans in the crowd on ESPN. currently going crazy. very excited. about Derek Harmon becoming a Pittsburgh. Steeler. Your thoughts and is this what. you expected? Yeah, he was uh he was. mocked the Steelers a lot besides. Shajour. Uh you know what they say about. Derrick Harman, Cam Hayward 2.0. So. that's awesome. We're going to get. another Cam Hayward going to get 12 plus. years of great football. The Steelers.

got absolutely [ __ ] gashed uh at the. end of the year in the run game. So they. decided to get go out and get an. incredible DTackle. He was number one in. FBS in pressures from the DTackle. position by 12. Let everybody by 12. Like I said, he's basically they're. going to pair him up with uh with Cam. Hayward and Keanu Benton and and try to. sh up that middle because they shred up. the linebacker position uh last year and. then you you pair him with Highmith and. hopefully TJ and and we we're starting. to look really good up front again and. it's really what we needed. We didn't.

need a quarterback at this point. We. needed to sh up that run game. Yeah, he's he certainly got Mason Rudolph over. there. strengths. Did we know they were. going DTackle, not quarterback? I heard. quarterback all the way. I heard. quarterback, but I also heard. quarterback at two and three for about. three weeks and a month and then, you. know, so anyway, let's put let's take. that away here. So, this is here. Pittsburgh. I thought it was the one. place for Shadore. I know he had a good. meeting with Tomlin. I know he had a. decent meeting uh that was 5 hours long. there. And I thought if there is a guy. who can unilaterally say, you know what,

screw it. That's my guy. Let's bring him. in. It was Tomlin. Truth matter is, if. you're in the Aaron Rodgers game and. you're trying to convince Aaron to come. and you're even trying to still be in. the Aaron Rogers game, the last thing. you would do would be draft a. quarterback tonight and they go to Aaron. and be like, "No, no, we still are. really committed to you." So, this this. to me tells you this to me tells you. you're all in on Rogers. This tells me. you're all in on Rogers and you're going. to give help to Rogers so that he can. field the best team possible. This was. Shador to me made sense at 21, but this.

to me just tells me even more so that. this is Rogers and the Steelers and. that's the future. Uh Tone, wait until. you see the setup that he has at his. house with his family. I'm watching it. right now. I just I just I love that. he's a Pittsburgh Steeler. Uh I. absolutely love that he's a Pittsburgh. Steeler. That feels like a Pittsburgh. Steeler. Eddie Ducks. A Chuck Conway. jersey. Yeah, his [ __ ] boys got a. Charlie Conway Ducks jersey on which I. absolutely love. Another That's an Adam. Banks. Adam. Banks traitor. Cake eater. Quack quack. quack quack quack.

quack never seen it. Debug never saw. that. [Music]. You knew it. Come on. We know. I mean, I. love that. I'm going to take points away. for not having a Bombay jersey. somewhere. But uh listen, I understand. what Shreggs is saying. If you're a. Steelers fan, you better pray to God. You better pray to Ya. You better pray. to whoever the [ __ ] you pray to that. Aaron Rogers shows up into town. Okay. Aya Aia, the god of you know what? Of. course. All right. Mother. Yeah. Mother.

What? You know, however the hell the. kids are saying it these days. Uh. because listen, Tone, you can wax. poetic. You can say whatever you want. If you go into next season with Mason. Rudolph as your starting quarterback, the Steelers are absolutely [ __ ] Uh. coach Mike McCarthy, Yuri Yenzer at. heart, obviously growing up in. Pittsburgh. defense all been. So them. taking a first round D tackle. Your. thoughts? Loving it. Trust your history. You know, it starts in it starts with. defense in Pittsburgh. Always will, always has. Um things will work out.

there. I think it's an excellent pick. Excellent pick. Matt Mel, what's worst. case scenario? We go nine and eight with. Mason Rudolph. No, worst case scenario. is you go three and 14. No, we went we. went nine and eight with Duck Hodgeges. and Mason three years ago. Quack quack. quack quack. You didn't watch it with. Duck Hodgees. Duck could play, son. Shout out Duck. He was that big night. out. He was great. I love Duck. He was. Duck is Duck's everywhere. He was in a. duck blind, too, last week. I think he. uh came home duckless, if you will. Uh.

we love Duck Hodgeges, obviously. But. the Pittsburgh Steelers, they've been. caught in a uh purgatory almost. Middle. of the pack, winning season, obviously, as Tom was saying, able to win no matter. how many players, no matter who he has. But because of that, they never really. get like a top five draft pick. So, Steelers fans are like, "Yeah, we're. okay with winning seasons, but we need. more." Does this help, you think? Uh, Coach Mike McCarthy, I'm a lifelong uh. Pittsburgh Steeler fan. Always will be. And I'm just going to say this, I said. it earlier, watch what you wish for.

It's it's it's harder to go to the. playoffs 10 years in a row than to win. one Super Bowl. So, pump the brakes. would be my would be my opinion. AP. Tony, he's talking to you. Oh yeah, cuz. he's just a city boy. Born and raised in Greenfield, Pittsburgh. Uh, that's real though. That. is how Steelers fans feel at this stage. of the Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers. era, which has been a great 18, 19. years, whatever. Yeah, you better. resigned TJ.

Yeah, definitely. No, that's He's. getting traded with the Packers tonight. I heard TJ is. I heard that, too. This. place is going wild. This place looking. nuts. Wow. Already going wild. Strangers. Yeah. You heard this? You ever heard. this song, Dette? You know, going going. to a. PWI predominantly white institution, you. learn all pretty quick. You learn all. these signals. I didn't know about the PWI. Oh, yeah. PWI, HBC. I got you.

Yeah, they're still going. Green Bay's. bringing it tonight. Oh, man. This is. unbelievable. I bet tomorrow they'll be. like this, too. Yeah. I there's not. enough hotel rooms here either. So, I. have no idea where all these people are. staying unless it is literally just the. houses that are around here cuz it felt. like the there's been a lot of trees. that have been burned through the sky. that have I don't know if it was a skunk. problem. Coach Mike McCarthy, you told. me there are some skunks out here at the. last while, but this place has been.

electric all day. All day around this. entire stadium. It's different here in. Green Bay, man. It's a movie. It's a. movie. It is. And I don't want to take. pot shots, but just, you know, after. being in that [ __ ] hole Detroit last. year, that's a pot. It It makes I I. really do think [ __ ] hole. Jeez. Tony. said it. And also we saw we saw human. [ __ ] in the street last year. Yeah, but. they were good people. They're good. people. Biggest draft of all time. Remember that one, boys. They ain't. bigger than this one. You kidding me?

None of that here. Oh, no. Hey, Shra and. Tone, why don't you uh Somebody is on. that loud pack. Oh, yeah. And there is. some really funky, skunky, stinky, icky. floating through the sky here in Green. Bay. Oh, yeah. And I appreciate it to be. honest. This deep into this thing, this. far away from the end. On that note, let's go down the draft game, boys. You. got about four or five minutes as we on. the stage take a run, pal. All right, who do we got on the clock? We got the.

Chargers on the clock. Chargers. So uh. what what Michigan players are left out. there? No doubt. Will Johnson. So Mter. obviously was with him in Michigan and I. just this is not lazy. I know that they. absolutely love Will Johnson. They also. loved Kenneth Grant. So I I had him go. in Grant in the mock draft, but if not. that Will Johnson makes sense, but I. don't think anyone saw Golden being in a. So this is interesting. Uh Shador, we. just saw him on the ESPN broadcast. So. they do have cameras on them. Um Tomlin. taking a defensive tackle instead when.

there's a gaping hole at quarterback. It. tells me it might not be tonight for. Shadore. No, I mean so like I said. before before the Steelers picked, you. know, the Browns, the Giants, the. Saints, they all passed on him. Now the. Steelers also pass on. Those are teams. with horrible quarterbacks. Horrible. quarterback. Horrible quarterback. situations and he's getting passed on. So it's not a it's not a great look. I. mean, it's not a great look for any of. the quarterbacks in this draft besides. Cam Ward who went number one. Jackson. Dart is still out there. Uh, I've heard. rumors that there are teams potentially. trying to get back in, specifically the. Giants to get back come back in.

potentially. I know they love Jackson. Dart. They also did a ton of homework on. Shadur Sanders. So, is there is there a. point in this? Now's the time. You think. it's now's the time if you're coming up. Here we go. These are all the teams that. that all were playoff teams last year. They would gladly trade back. There's no. player that's going to be uh, you know, putting them into the Super Bowl. I. would also look at those teams at the. end. Eagles, Chiefs, Bills, and you. could tweet this out. Eagles, Chiefs, Bills to trade up and say really we're.

getting back over the hump. Ravens, we. might trade up. There's a guy that we. love who is sitting there that we. haven't had an opportunity to get. So. maybe that's Golden. Maybe it's Simmons, the offensive tackle out of Ohio State. You look at a team like the Chiefs, all. right, went to the Super Bowl, we're. sitting here at 31 and maybe the guy. falls for us. But like if there's a guy. that they rate highly, what what do you. got to give up to move up to this spot? a third rounder, maybe next year's third. rounder. So, I love this part of the. draft. I love all the nights of the. draft, but right now is the real This is.

the meat of it for me. 22 to 32. These. are your playoff teams, your contenders. Who's getting over the top? And then I. ask, are the Giants trying to get back. in? So, we'll see. Well, let's I mean, so yeah, Chiefs, you you took it right. out of my mouth. If they come up against. Simmons or Connor Lee, whoever Simmons. before the energy, before the uh injury, might have gone top 10 this season. because he he was really really good. also like you know what's going on do. you know anything what's going on with. Bills and James Cook could they come. back come up and potentially get a Mario. on Hampton or something dude they are.

far apart and that's been since the. combine and they started giving these. extensions to everybody and Brandon Bean. who you guys have on the show all the. time was like we're going to pay Cook's. expectations were way higher than what. they were looking to pay and he's also. got another year left on his contract so. do you create a little leverage and say. the North Carolina running back or. either of the Ohio State running backs. are sitting on the board let's light a. fire there and let's do do it. You can I. look Giants, Saints, Browns. Now's the. time. It's not going to be a bounty of. picks. Well, what are you doing? Let's.

go. And the Browns just got a bunch of. picks from the Jaguar. I thought the. Browns made out pretty well in that dro. uh in that trade going back to five, especially getting a one next year. Um, anything in the last, I don't know, five. or six picks that that stood out to you. since the last time we did this? I mean, you know, you had John A. Baron, you had. a Mecha the Amecha Ibuka going to Hold. on. We got a pick from the Chargers. coming in in the 2025 NFL draft. The Los. Angeles Chargers select Omaran Hampton.

running back. Okay, number. They brought. Naji in. But, okay, Pat, are you back. here? Cuz I love this. This is fun. We. got I love this as well. We got an a. running back out there in Los Angeles. If you remember Eckler a few years back, Jim Harbaugh loves pounding the rock as. AJ Hawk has summoned the fans to throw. their jerseys to him so he could sign. them. That that is that is currently. what's happening right now. Uh Sharpies. are getting tossed at big Mike McCarthy. who's showcasing his hands. He talked.

earlier about plucking the ball. That's. what McCarthy's doing with these jerseys. and it's truly phenomenal. Our coach is. helping out AJ. Uh the Chargers go with. running back debut. That's classic. That. is classic hardball football here. Oh. yeah, physical. Uh you expected maybe a. wide receiver here. See some dynamic. weapons still on the board. But uh. Hampton is unbelievable. He is a top. tier three down back. He's a breakaway. back. Very vertical. Kind of reminds me. of like a Jonathan Taylor or even a Fred.

Taylor. Vertical once he sees the scene. He's a north and south runner. Has the. breakaway speed. Can also catch the ball. out of the back field. I love everything. about Amarian Hampton, the backto-back. first team all ACC. Very, very. productive player and a great pickup for. this ground, you know, this tough team. that the LA Chargers want to become. Let's go uh to the draft game. Omar was. always the number two running back. Yeah, he was always the number one He. was always the number two running back. in the draft also statistically over the. last two years. So, he had 1,700 yards.

and 16 touchdowns in 2023, 2,000 yards. and 17 touchdowns this year. The only. player that had more yards at the. running back position the last two years. was Ashton Genty. Omar Hampton has been. quietly one of the best running backs in. the country because he was at UNCC. He. was awesome with Drake May and then this. year he basically put the team on his. back cuz they had quarterback issues. Yeah, he's been the number two all. along. Makes me wonder a couple things. here. I look at the other teams. You. hear me? If Will Johnson played for Mter. and played for Harbaugh and everyone.

said he's an all world top 10 guy and. they have a need at corner and they. didn't draft Will Johnson. I wonder if. his slide is going to go further. And. then I look at the quarterbacks. And. then I look at Matthew Golden, who. everyone thought was going to be the. first wide receiver off the board, a. Lightning player out of Texas. So, there. are still some really talented players. You guys were on the break. I I I'm. interested in Kansas City. I'm. interested in Buffalo. I'm interested in. the Eagles. Teams that like to see if. there's someone dropping, if they can. pounce. It's really interesting draft. And the Green Bay Packers on the.

complete opposite end of that. They. don't take number one wide receivers. No. Matthew Golden sitting there. Do you. add a weapon that has a four? What's he. run? 429 or whatever. I mean, it feels like. you should. I I got a text from Tai. Schmidt and he said, "Look, we missed. out on that bua, but it feels as though. it was always destiny to have Golden and. it feels like having that guy that takes. the top off, you know, Watson, he's had. his problems in the past with the. hammies and things of that nature. Dos. is great at those jump balls. Jell,

what's that? If they don't [ __ ] pick. this guy, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this. microphone as far as I [ __ ] can. No, no, no. That'll be a weapon. You got a. good arm. I'm just saying, listen, okay, I I understand the Packers history, okay? They they don't necessarily need. the first round guy. They've had a lot. of success picking guys in the second. round. I'll just be frank with you. They've done a lot of work on the. offensive line. I don't want them to. pick another [ __ ] offensive lineman, okay? I don't need a plugandplay guy. Jordan Morgan, hey, great pick last.

year. played three [ __ ] games. Okay, three [ __ ] games. I wanted him to get. Cooper Jeene. What do he do? Oh, yeah. He had a pick six in the Super Bowl. He. had a pretty good [ __ ] year. So, if. Matthew Golden's there, he is. Go get. him. Go get him. For the love of God, go. get him. Coach McCarthy, what do you. think the Packs I think I think they. trust their board. They really do. I. mean, I I think this is, you know, I'm. feeling the heat over here, but, you. know, I think Brian Gutigan's done a. great job, you know, with the overall. roster and, you know, this this there's.

no don't reach and go he'd be a great. pick, don't get me wrong. I mean, hook. him horns. I mean, he's outstanding. I. think he'd be a great fit here. Where. are all the DVs, man? Yeah, that's what. I was going to say. They missed out last. year on I think they go corner. I'd be. okay with Harrison as well. Will Johnson. still there, too? He was raised. Yeah, it's a lot of good corners in this. Good. safeties, too. That some play really. good safeties. Let's Let's talk real. quick though because I think you do have. a take. No. Number one wide receivers is.

the big conversation with the Green Bay. Packers. Is that a fair conversation, you think, or No. Oh, I think it I think. it's a fair conversation. And I think. especially when you're building your. offense as a young quarterback, you. know, I just go off my time getting here. in ' 06, we already had Donald Driver, you know, and then we made the change. from Brett to Aaron, but then took Greg. Jennings in the second round, you know, then Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall. Cobb, Devonte Adams. So, you're talking. about five second round or the third. round, four seconds and a third over a. 12-ear period, you know. Well, that's.

that that's that's how you get the. matchups, you know, so he don't have to. go out and he don't have to or you're. always trying to feature the number one. receiver. So for a quarterback runs the. offense, he goes through the. progression. I I think it's a very. healthy way to go. I think financially. it's a very responsible way to go as far. as the cap. But you know, once again, we're getting a little further down here. in the draft. So I mean, what's the. difference between a one and a two? I. get there is the financial component to. it in the in the fifth year. So, um, but. yeah, I don't think you need to go. draft, you know, a receiver in the first.

round. Now, I say that my first draft in. Dallas, we were talking about going with. a corner and we were thinking defense. and then Judy and Rugs went off the. board and Jerry, you know, he was on the. yacht and I was I was in Green Bay at. the at the barn and yeah, great place. But, uh, and he's like, "Hey, coach, what?" He goes, "What happens if CD. Lamb's going to sit there?" We've been. talking about defense all day. And I was. like, "Hell, I'm I'm an offensive guy. the hell of defense. So I mean so so you. you know I think yeah there's no. absolutes in this as we know you know.

and I'm going to say this one more time. the amount of work that goes into that. draft board from not only I mean this is. the this is the personnel departments u. this is their Super Bowl I mean these. scouts these road warders have been out. there and all collecting all this data. then you got the support staffs that are. part of it. Then you got the coaching. staff that has a hand in it. But there's. so much work goes into this sport. And I. I know there Schumer involved in this. and so forth. But this is you got to. trust your board. Trust the board. Trust. your board. Matthew. I just think that's. you know when you don't that's your room.

risk your risk for error goes up. And. Matthew Golden are the Packers wondering. we didn't expect him to be here. And. then you see Ian Rapaort tweeted out. that they're fielding calls right now. There's a lot of people that are calling. the Packers. Hey, you guys definitely. don't want to take a wide receiver right. now. Matthew Golden still available. Maybe we move up at 23. They're saying. the Chargers were taking a lot of calls. They made a pick. The Packers made a. pick. The pick is in for the Green Bay. Packers. Uh the stage is announced to. obviously the joy and delight of all the.

fans that are here. Instead of trading. out, what do the Packers do? Mad Mau. last uh prediction here. I'm good with. uh with Golden or Harrison because they. they do they need corn uh you know Jaier. Alexander's probably going to be gone. They need corner help as well. I didn't. know that about Jaier. Jire's gone. Been talked about. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, they're either going. to trade him or probably cut him, I. would assume. Damn. Okay, so the player. are the Green Bay Packers going to do. something that we have not seen them do. in a long time because there's a player.

that runs a 42 available at uh wide. receiver. Jordan loves your quarterback. We would like to see that work out. Matt. Laflur is Blake caller and a head coach. We'd like to see this offense do. something. We're in a brand new era. here. We turned the page on from Aaron. Rogers whenever he was in his darkness. retreat. Are we going to do something. that we don't normally do and draft a. wide receiver in the first round? The. internet is saying, "What the [ __ ]. Gell doing?" The internet is saying, "Kidley Winks back there. The pick's in. Let's go." We're in Green Bay. Maybe a. little dramatization here. I like you.

But I think you got a uh I think you got. a really fast Oh, here we go. Good. Here. we go. I think you Roger Goodell is. making his way to the stage, taking his. sweet ass time here in Green Bay. It is. his show. We are in his league. We. appreciate him alongside Mark Murphy. Legend Mark Murphy for the Green Bay. Packers pick here in Green Bay. Okay, Green Bay, it's your time. to make this historic pick. Please give.

it up for first team AllPro, Pro Bowler, twotime Super Bowl champion, and Packers. President and CEO Mark Murphy. Good pop. Oh, thank you, Lord. Thank. you, Roger. How about this atmosphere? Isn't. that unbelievable? Yeah. Hell yeah it. is. Roger. Thank you in the NFL for bringing.

the draft here to Green Bay for the best. draft in the history of the NFL right. here. Well said. I like that. That's a. good promo. Good promo. On behalf of the Packers, Packer fans here in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and everywhere cuz our fans. are everywhere. It is my pleasure to. welcome you all to the NFL draft at. Lambo Field. Well, get to it. 23 picks. in. It is our honor and privilege to. host this wonderful event in our.

community, particularly since we are the. only communityowned team in the NFL. Ty, shut up. Shut up. Ty's an owner. Ty's an. owner. He's talking to you, Ty. Ty's out. here. Just out of curiosity, how many of. you are owners? I got the you. Mike. You're the butt as [ __ ] We also. have the best owners in the NFL. It's. not real. They're real. That's not real, Mark. And we also want to celebrate the. special connection we have with our fans. as the early days of professional.

football. With a 23rd pick in the 2025 NFL draft, the 13time world champion, Green Bay. Packers. for the first time since 2002, draft a wide. receiver. Matthew Golden, wide receiver. of Texas. Let's [ __ ] go.

Oh, that's awesome. Get you some. There. you go. Go Pat, go. Go Pat, go. Go Pat, go. Let's [ __ ] go. It's about [ __ ] time, baby. [Applause]. That was electric. Yes. Awesome. Coach, I don't know if you guys. knew at the time.

[Applause]. [Music]. Will that speed up or we staying at the. same rhythm? It's like baby shark. No, same. It's not not speeding up. [Applause]. Would. it go? Coach McCarthy, I don't know if you knew. this whenever you were the head coach. here and into draft personnel. decision-making, but all it takes to. draft a wide receiver in the first round. to get this reaction. We have Ty.

Schmidt. This is what you look like, Ty, as the Green Bay Packers. And now. [Laughter]. I think that is uh probably synonymous. with how everybody felt here. Massive. pump for Mark Murphy and the Green Bay. Packers whenever they announce that a 42. wide receiver who's hitting the stage. right now. Hitting Can we get in the. stage? Yeah, he looks awesome. Wow, what. a suit. Welcome to town. Coach McCarthy,

they had an explosive wide receiver to. the offense for Jordan Love. What are. your thoughts on the decision that was. made tonight by Mark Murphy and the. Packers? No, it's outstanding. I mean, anytime you add, you know, playmaker, I'm sure that starting with Jordan Love, they're they're extremely excited. So, now this is an excellent pick. I. guarantee I mean, we talking about trust. the board. You'll be surprised that he. was highest rated guy on the board. I. think I think, you know, there's this is. a win-win right here. You know, got a. very high rated wide receiver at the. right time and and obviously it gives.

them a huge boost to their offense. The. fastest player, you know, fastest. receiver in the draft. They need a guy. who creates separation. That was kind of. the issue last year. Obviously, you. know, you got uh [ __ ] tall drink of. water. Can't think of his name right. now, but Watson. No, Watson. Watson. Yeah. Blew his knee out. So, he's he's. going to be gone for a while. They they. need a guy who can create separation so. Jordan Love doesn't have to just, you. know, take a five step and hold a dick, throw it up there, and hope that one of. his guy comes down with it. I I have a. feeling Golden's going to have a big.

year this year, massive year. And he. needs to. We We The Packers need a guy. like this. You know, I I want to comment. on the kick return, too. You know, that. that's one thing that Hold on, coach. I think he just did a Green Bay chant. Green Bay on three. One, two, three. Green Bay. Don't know if that's a champ, but who cares? Who cares? Let us know. Go ahead. I'm sorry. What? No, definitely. I I just think special teams. is a huge factor in this part of the. country, you know, and I I go back to. the days in my earlier years uh with.

Devin Hester. I mean, I mean, you talk. about a guy keep you up at night. I. mean, you're giving up a 100 yards of. field position every time you play. against the Bears during that era, you. know, in this type of weather, particularly in the November, December. month. So, you also got, you know, he's. a four down player. So, you know, those. are things that are are very important. You get to these spots. So, obviously an. excellent pick all the way around. Complete wide receiver. Usually when you. get one of these guys that run a 42, they're one trick pony. They usually. don't pan out NFL. My favorite thing. about him is he stepped up and became. that number one wide receiver for Texas.

last year. he can run the entire route. tree. He can kind of uh run the deep. routes, obviously the intermediate. routes, and he's a guy with the return. ability that you can just get the ball. in his hands and he can impact on that. way. So, all three levels of the pass. game and then that that time he ran at. the combine. You knew, okay, I I expect. him to go higher because of the time. I. didn't expect him to run that fast, but. he definitely plays football fast as. well. So, I'm excited about this pick. No, and I like the body type, too. Usually, guys run that fast a little. slight. Yep. I mean, this guy's got a.

full balance body. He's also a ball. plucker, as you called him earlier. Coach McCarthy, pluck and separate. That's for sure. AJ, I love that Mark. Murphy said for the first time since. 2002, we're taking a wide receiver in. the first round. AJ, do you think it's. because of what McCarthy said where they. didn't expect Matthew Golden to be. available and he shows up and it's like, wait a minute, this is we have to do. Coach, when you say trust the board, is. that like when they say uh best. available, like when a team their best. player available? I mean, there's. probably I doubt they thought he was. there. I mean, you kind of have to take. him. Why Why wouldn't you? Especially if.

you know the kind of reaction you're. going to get from the people. Obviously, you're not pandering to the the hometown. crowd, but watch this guy's tape and and. there's no question of why you would. take him in the first round. Well, and. with to what you know, Matt Mel said. with Watson, like if Watson's hurt, he's. coming to the end of his contract. Dos. also coming to the end of his contract. Like you you kind of have to make. decisions, especially with wide. receivers with how much they're getting. pa paid. like now all of a sudden. you're getting choked up first round. there for wide receiver in the first. round. Uh but uh no with Jaden Reed and.

Golden you know Josh Jacobs obviously. the offense kind of ran through Tucker. Craft Tucker Craft also I mean they got. weapons everywhere you look. Yeah they. hit on him too like now it is hey Jordan. Love go and get it done. Let's go to the. draft cave. Peter Shreger is this. everything that we're talking about. accurate from what you're understanding. in chitter chatter with Laflur. Hey, listen to this. Uh, this guy when he was. at Houston lit up Texas and then Texas. was like, let's bring him on. So, I love. that story. Had dinner with Lafleur two.

nights ago. I wasn't cheating on you, Coach McCarthy. I had dinner with the. Wait, hold on. We got a pick. I'm going. to go Vikings. draft. The Minnesota. Vikings select Donovan Jackson, guard. Ohio State. Congratulations to Ohio. State Buckeye Donovan Jackson getting. drafted in the first round. offensive. lineman over there for the Minnesota. Vikings. JJ McCarthy seemingly going to. be their quarterback. Fresh off of an. injury. Excited to see what Kevin. Oonnell is able to do. Protecting the.

quarterback. Always a good play. Let's. go back to the Green Bay Packers. shranks. What were you going to say. about the Packers and their decision? Just real quick, Laflur said this might. be the year we do go wide receiver. They. really liked Ibuka. They really liked. McMillan. And they really liked Golden. Uh and that it worked out this way that. all the other players that they had at. the port are there. But we might have. some news, guys. and I'm going to lay. out if you know what I mean. No, go. ahead. What is it? Well, I think. Sheper's reporting it. I'm going to wait. for him. But I do know a team in New. York has been making calls throughout. the last 20 minutes and I want to see. what Sheper's got on the screen here.

because Yep. We're going for it. Giants. are trading back in. Let's go. Okay, so. the Giants are trading back in. This. could be for a quarterback just like. what a lot of people were projecting. over like the last week or so. Able to. take somebody at three that you really. liked in Abdul. Now, are you able to get. the quarterback that you wanted cuz you. knew they were going to be available? There's a chance that is happening right. in front of our eyes. Yeah. And they did. that extra private workout with Shador. Sanders, I believe, and and Jackson. Yeah, I think so. So, you wonder if. they're going either of those places, you also wonder if you know Mara has a.

favorite. This is where with the Giants. after last year's Hard Knocks in the. offseason, their front office. I I I. would lean towards what Mara feels like. and I'd stay away from Jackson Dart. We. also can't forget that uh Joe Shane's. kid who you know wanted uh wanted to. keep uh Saquon also put out on his IG. story that uh he loved Jackson Dart this. week. So Oh, now to be clear they are. showing on ESPN down to Canon Texas. Prime. Gilly the kid and Shador. Sanders's party. Is that because ESPN. knows what the Giants are doing? They.

did this with the Jackson. All right, we're back in the game. Okay. All right. Uh I'll add this. Joe Judge is a big. voice in that that at Miss program and. you might say Joe Judge the front office. from the Giants with the exception of. Shane. A lot of those guys didn't. change. So if they have any read on that. thing, they'll know inside and out about. Jackson Dart. And I have a feeling he's. been their guy all along, but it hasn't. been done yet. Yeah. Also, our Giants. fan, residents Giants fan, Bruce Bront. has already ordered a custom Shader.

Sanders Giants jersey, which he has in. possession. So I do hope for him. I. don't know. I've haven't you heard a lot. of the rumors that that Dable is a. Jackson Dart guy? I've heard that. Yeah, but everything could be wrong. You're. right. You know that that's the issue. Like we thought there was going to be. quarterbacks at two three. We thought. maybe the Raiders like there is so many. different conversations. Saints with. Derek Carr Browns. What are the Browns. going to do? I mean there still. Pittsburgh Steelers going to get a. quarterback. So we don't know what's. real and what isn't real. We do know. that this is definitely going to be for. quarterback though. I mean that is the. only reason why you would do that. Oh.

wow. They cut to the quarterback's not. on the phone, but these guys are. Oh, that's good drama on ESPN as we follow. along. The pick is in for the New York. Giants. So, now we will await Roger. Goodell. I think that was you, Shreggs. What was that? Yeah, I was just going to. say left to right. Steve Tish in the. room. Chris Mara, a lot of the. influential people were involved in. these discussions this week. This was. ownership on down, but Joe Shane all. along has let it be known they were not. going to reach for a quarterback. They.

were not going to do something that was. out of character, but if it got to a. certain value, they would be willing to. trade back. I feel pretty vindicated. I've been saying this all along. Abdul. Carter at three trade back in the 20s. and go get Joe and go get their guy. Jackson Dart. I think it is. I don't. think it's going to be Shador. Okay. So, Shanker, you think it's going to be. Jackson Dart? I believe there are others. around the internet for the last few. days that have projected that the Giants. like Jackson Dart more than they like. Shidor, even though they had great. interest in Shadore and probably great. interest in Travis Hunter as well as.

they were scouting the Colorado team all. season long. Here's a big decision now. in this entire draft night. Which. quarterback did the Giants take? Was the. true two all along, Shador Sanders, or. was it Jackson Dart out of Old Miss? That's the question that we're about to. have answered. in a matter of moments. I mean, either. way, just looking at uh Peter Diggs's. mock draft here, it it is pretty. incredible that he had the Giants traded. back in. Granted, it was 26 and this is.

the 25th pick, but I mean, Shrakes is. kind of swinging a hawk, right? What the. hell is he? I'll take I'll take that. Matthew Golden one, too, while we're at. it. Who do you have him trading back in for? He Jackson, I think he just said. Jackson. Jackson. I don't know if it's. Jackson yet. The pick. I don't know, but. that's what I think it would be. Big TV. AJ Hawkchant. Let's go. That's AJ. Hawkchant. Rattle through Green Bay, Wisconsin. The all-time leading tackler. for the Green Bay Packers. Giants making. a lot of plays at the quarterback room.

already this offseason. Coach Mike. McCarthy. Russell Wilson, Jameus. Winston. Now they have uh Tommy Dvito. and Cutlets. They tried Matthew. Stafford. They tried Aaron Rogers. Now. they're trading back in. What does that. mean? You think coming from the Giants. organization? Uh I I think it's the. approach you have to have. They're. trying to develop a quarterback room. Obviously, they got they got pelts on. the wall with Russell, you know, and I. think, you know, you got two good. veterans. You know, Devito has shown. some some promise in his his. opportunities and but once again, you. got a chance to add a starter capability. quarterback with either one of these.

young guys. It'll come down to. preference obviously through their film. studies. Whose preference are you think? Who reigns supreme in that room? I guess. it's I would have to say it's the head. coach. I mean, you look at the the. history, isn't he? D's known. quarterback. I mean, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. He's got a great history. with quarterbacks and the job that he. did with Josh Allen speaks for itself. Yeah, I think you definitely got to lean. in his direction on this certainly. And. then what did we hear? Somebody I don't. know who just said AJ. Go ahead. There's. going to be more action right after the.

Giants pick. And I'm telling you, I. don't have the team yet, but some. interesting stuff with some trade. capital coming up. But the Rams are. after the the Texans who are now the. Giants. Rams were looking to trade back. and I believe they are going to trade. back also and it might be for a. quarterback hungry team there. So it. might start rattling right now. Okay, so. Rams uh uh Rams trading their pick back. The Texans just traded their pick back. This was kind of what the end of the. convo was in the draft narrative. every.

team that needed a quarterback. We're. like, "Yes, we need a quarterback, but. we're going to kind of the value of the. draft pick matters for us on who it's. going to be and they're trusting the. board." And it appears as if all the. people that are in the position to trade. out are willing participants. Texans. said, "Yep, we'll get out of here." Rams. said, "Yep, we'll get out of here.". Allegedly. And now these teams are able. to get their quarterback they wanted and. another player. Falcons are moving back. into the first round to the Rams spot at. number 26. Don't think it's a.

quarterback. Maybe not a quarterback. Maybe not a quarterback. Here's Gadell. to clarify the Giants. Giants. Who's the. number two QB? With a 25th pick in the. 2025 NFL draft, the New York Giants. select, Jackson Dart. Wow. Quarterback, Mississippi. Wow. Okay, so Jackson Dart. out of Old Miss is officially the second. quarterback taken in the 2025 NFL draft. Congratulations to Jackson Dart who I. think everybody knew was electrifying.

throughout the season. Jackson Dart. obviously has that face paint. He plays. for a Lane Keifin offense down there in. Old Miss. Obviously, it's the SEC. He's. able to spin it. They were almost in a. college football playoff. They weren't. in a college football playoff, which I. think led to not a lot of people. thinking of Jackson Dart as an NFL. prospect. Then, as the draft cycle went. on and combine went on and everybody. started watching his film and how much. of a dog he is and how much of a leader. he is, people are like, "Wait a minute, this Jackson Dart guy is a real guy.". Mad Mel. He is officially the second. quarterback taken in this particular. draft. Shador Sanders still available.

Mad Mel. Yeah, it makes no sense. Shador. is my number one player on my big board. I think he's the best player in this. draft, bar none. Best quarterback. certainly in this draft, bar none. But. you look at a guy like Jackson Dart, obviously he's got all the intangibles, big laser, rocket arm, can move outside. the pocket, run around a little bit. I. think the Giants are also looking at the. marketing opportunities here. You. imagine the amount of t-shirts you can. sell with like, "Hey, smoke those darts. Light up those darts." You know, all. that kind of stuff. That matters in New. York. That matters in the big city. Obviously, I think he has the. personality in the moxy to be able to. handle the big city. Here's his reaction.

whenever he gets told he's the New York. Giants next. quarterbacked up. The whole team is. Congrats to Jackson, man. That's a big. deal. What did you see from his tape, coach Mike McCarthy? Makes you think he. could translate to the NFL. Well, well, number one is transition from the. pocket. Obviously playing for Lane, you. know, very disciplined, welloiled scheme. as far as, you know, the timing throws. and getting the ball out. But he remind. me a little bit of a Rich Ganty because. Rich always had he has that spurt to. step up and and get out of there. I was. I'm real impressed with his uh with his.

scrambling ability and getting to the. second level. Little more quickness and. speed, I think, than you realize until. you watch the tape. And I love the throw. that he has to his left on his scramble. drill to his left, flipping the hips, putting the ball on the back of the end. zone. So those are the kind of things. that I look really look for when you. when you're watching tape and I mean. it's he's a very very productive. quarterback. Move the change, control. the clock. I mean he's not only good for. the offense, he's good for the whole. football team. If I can get in guys here. the way do you see I mean I think it. might not be official yet but we're.

going to get I'm going to talk about the. Giants dart. The Rams trade with Atlanta. the compensation's crazy. Atlanta, I. believe, is giving up a future first. round pick to move up to the 26th. overall pick. And I'm not a 100% sure. yet, but that is what I'm getting on my. phone from sources at the teams. And. that is mindblowing considering I didn't. think this was a It's Atlanta. So that's. interesting. Put a pin in that for a. second. Back to Jackson Dart here real. quick. Like you're talking about Charlie.

Weiss's kid called the plays. Dable. knows him inside and out. Joe Judge is. down there. Joe Shane's daughter goes to. Miss. Joe Joe Shane has been around Miss. football for two years. This one is. something that they've always had in. their back pocket, a guy that they have. always liked. And I'll just say this. from talking to Miss folks. I don't know. if he's going to be the next Phil Sims. or Eli Manning or whatever it is. It. sounds cliche, but this guy they had to. tell to leave to go home at 10:30 every. night because that was the rules. And it.

was like, bro, you got to leave. also a. crazy competitive person. Like crazy. compet had never played pickle ball. Pickle ball before. Lane Keins into. pickle ball. He learns how to play. pickle ball and now he's like kicking. Lane Kein's ass in pickle ball. It's one. of those deals. Like he wants to be that. guy. I think Giants fans might be a. little skeptical. You got a quarterback. at 24 25 in the draft. You're like, but. why did we hear Shadore the entire time? I don't know. I didn't say that. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay. Uh Darius, what do you.

see out of Jackson Dard? What do you. think of this pick? And also. compensation's coming out for this Rams. Falcons trade. Yeah, Falcons are trading. 46 242 and a firstrounder in 2026 for 26. and 101. So future first rounder. depending upon what the Falcons end up. doing this year obviously will tell the. story. Well, they must love. We we know. it's not a quarterback, but I will. assume it's a player that absolutely. love I'll assume it's not a quarterback. I will also assume it's a player at a at.

a very premium position. So, right after. the quarterback, you got left tackle, you got pass rusher, maybe corner. So, we'll see. But Jackson, great pick. 26. pick to the Atlanta Falcons. with the 26 pick in the 2025 NFL draft. The Atlanta Falcons select James Pierce. Jr., defensive end, Tennessee. Okay. Hey, so they go get a pass rusher, which. is what you just talked about, a premier. position, a need. They give up a lot,

but does it matter, Coach McCarthy? How. do you think they view it if he ends up. being a great play? It's already been. said, premier position. Obviously, you. know, you get to this point, you start. getting those blinking lights up there. So, it's obviously something they're. they've been watching. So, that's why I. I mean, you talk about giving up all. these picks. Yeah. Let's let's talk. about in two years. You know what I'm. saying? I I think you you got to you got. a a guy that everybody talked about up. in 10 15 y you know so you got to you. got a very talented rush player and uh I.

I I think you're never wrong when you go. if you if you trust the process not to. be redundant here's a blinking light go. get it. Yeah, I think I mean once again. this is this is good management of the. board. They obviously feel very highly. about the selection and obviously a very. different uh part of the draft but u. remember they traded all those picks and. jump up and draft Julio Jones because. they loved him. James Pierce Jr. Coming. coming into the year, I would say he was. assumed to be like a top 10 talent wise, top five talent-wise. I think he.

probably had that orange or red dot on. some of the boards because of some off. the- field maybe character concerns and. I'm sure uh Font not in that front. office did their due diligence to say to. feel comfortable enough to give up all. that compensation and jump back up here. and get him. So, this is a hot What's. that? On that note, uh Rapaort reported. that the Falcons met with Pierce and his. mom yesterday. Yeah. to just get one. final conversation. They must have loved. it so much they trade into the first.

round to make the pick and they give up. a firstrounder for next year to get into. the tail end of the first round. They're. expecting a lot in Raheem Morris's. defense. Yeah. And after the combine, Digs, you can probably speak to this, but I'm pretty sure that Monday after. the combine, one of the biggest winners. of the entire weekend was uh Pierce. Like he he completely dominated. I. forget what he ran, but I thought it. was, you know, in the 44s. Like he he. was unbelievable. Yeah, he ran a 447 at. 65245. And Pat, we had a show when you. were reading off, I believe, stats from. Hembo and it it was about Abdul Carter.

and his pressure and time to pressure. and everything like that. James Pierce. was second in all of those. Like he was. second right behind Abdul Carter as far. as edge and he's probably the most he's. probably the second most talented edge. rusher, but yeah, there was some. character stuff and things like that. So, if they feel good about that, can I. can I be the devil's advocate here? And. you're giving up a second round pick. this year and a first round pick next. year. Come on, guys. Coach, he's got. high ceing. Coach value. He's only 6'5, 245. That guy first round pick his.

ceiling is off the charts. I think that, you know, Rahee Morris is a big factor. in this decision, too. I mean, obviously. Atlanta's organization has great. confidence in him, you know, but the. orange dot or, you know, whatever the. conversation. those I mean they I'm. guarantee you they feel they probably. got a top 15 pick you know so do do the. math on that whatever the hell that. comes out to I mean they got they got a. premier pass rusher in the third and and. Raheem Raheem will do a great great job. with this young man you look at this. Falcons defense too they they go out and.

get Jude on obviously but their pass. rush Oh they need it it wasn't worth two. squirts of piss okay I would say that. but. all day second pass rush in the first. round in this draft exactly so you go. out and address it. I mean, I kind of. love it. I agree with you, coach. I. mean, you know, you can equate it, add. it up however the hell you want. It. doesn't matter if he's a player. Uh, let's go down to the draft cave. Sherger, while we were going to the. bathroom, you said Chiefs, Bills, uh, I. forget who I was saying. I think you. Eagles. Yeah, Eagles. And I think you. said something about the Ravens. We're.

currently sitting at the Ravens at 27. I. assume they're fielding callers like. everybody else is. Or what are your. thoughts? Yeah, I I think that those. teams at the end, they are the teams. that are looking at, but Josh Simmons. still on the board. I I mean I'm looking. at him and I'm looking at Dcasta and. what they do. To me that would make. sense if you're not going to trade and. have a team come up. I I wouldn't be. shocked if it's like a Malachi Starks or. Maxwell Harrison here if they need. secondary help. Malachi Starks is very. very like just fits the Ravens. You pair. him with the safeties that they have. Yeah, I feel like it might be What are. your notes saying there, coach? What are. your notes? Yeah, definitely. I was.

going to go Starks. No, I mean I mean. that's a dog right there. Another. Georgia Bulldog and the Ravens obviously. definitely fits. That's a culture. Yeah, absolutely. That'd be a great fit for. the AFC North. Yeah, Chuck Maggano is. over there now. Uh, obviously, I mean, I'm kind of bummed out about. that. Me, too. But he wants to win Super. Bowl and he's going to bring back the. Pagano punch. You know, it's kind of. been the peanut punch. Remember, the NFL. tried to start a war. Was that a debate. or what? A lot of people a lot of people.

who respect, you know, ancient football. back in Wyoming, Chuck Pagano started. the Pagano punch. Peanut Tilman comes. in. Everyone's talking about the peanut. punch. Chuck Mago's, you know, eating. rocks on the corner. No one cares about. him. And we just want people to know. like, hey, there was an old Italian man. who who this is all a madeup story. Put. his life on the line and was going for. the ball. He he definitely led with the. crown of his helmet a lot. Safety for. Wyoming. So the NFL the NFL a couple. years back put out a video on the peanut.

punch and what you can do. And Pagano. was the one they used as the video. And. uh basically people were saying like, "Oh, Pagano thinks he created this. punch." And then Peanut even quote. tweeted the video and was like, "Okay, basically dog and Pagano." And Chuck was. like, "I was asked to make this video.". I am so sorry. I'm so sorry. So there's. a little bit of heat between him and. Peanut there. There's a little heat. between him and Peanut. Um yeah, AJ can. attest to this. We've seen a few peanut. punches. That guys, I mean, that was.

unbelievable. precision just the numbers. on it like statistically where he was. compared against think of everybody. who's carrying the ball knows he's on. the field too like it affects how you. maneuver around the field when you have. practice that's a big part I'm sorry I. assume practice leading up to playing. against them ball well I I think in. today's NFL the last 10 years as as a. league is taking the helmet out of the. game you know the punching you know in. the techniques you know with tackling. taking I mean it's even more you see. you're not no one's worried about. missing tackles they're going for like.

Oh, I'm coming. I'm punching for the. ball and I'm I'm going to sacrifice. getting run over because I want that. ball. Yeah, it's a big all curious. It's. easier too. They start to clinch and. they almost help you tackle. Marlin. Humphrey slot corner who had one of his. best seasons of his career last year. He's one of the best peanut punchers out. there right now. They're thinking on the. internet that everything we've been. saying is accurate for the Ravens. That's what the internet is alluding to. at this exact moment. Obviously, we. don't want to tip any picks. Feel like.

we've been pretty good tonight. I can't. believe you've been really good. Why. haven't we just said it if we know? Because we're trying to, you know, ball. jack. Don't be an [ __ ] It's more fun. this way. It's better this way. I. disagree. I love it. All right. I know. you love it, Shanks. You're super. professional. Obviously, it's there's no. valor in having like Jordan Schultz or. Albert Brer tweeted. want to find it out. from the Well, that's your job though, trying to be our star pick. Stay out of. Star in the 2025 NFL draft. The. Baltimore Ravens select Malachi Starks.

All right, there you go. Defensive back. Georgia. Okay, so let's go down to the draft. cave. Tone Malachi Starks comes to the. AFC North. We just talked about it. Perfect culture fit seemingly. Yeah, as. a Steelers fan, uh I I know the Ravens. I respect the Ravens. This is just a. perfect Ravens fit. He started 14 games. as a true freshman on their national. championship team. And he's just so. smart. He could do so many things. He. had to play a little bit. You can see it. right here. He had to play in the slot a. little bit this year because of. injuries. Um they're thinking in the NFL.

he's he's going to be more of a free. safety type just because he called the. defenses, he set the defenses, he can. play anywhere in the secondary. He's a. ball hawk. His ball skills are. unbelievable. Yeah, he's a perfect. Raven. It's so cool. It's a great pick. And you look at what they got with B. with Humphrey obviously, but Kyle. Hamilton and you know Nick Emani out of. out of South Carolina was the hot. prospect at the combine. He still might. go in the first round, but everyone I. spoke to was like that's combine stuff. It's great for February. Starks is like. the guy. He is the safety. And I'm going. to worry could be a great linebacker and.

safety in his own right, but this is the. pick. DB. Yeah, Darius just popped right. there. Obviously, it's a great suit. Uh. he's swagged out going to Baltimore. What a culture. What a locker room. Some. of those plays you're watching on the. highlight make you excited. Yeah. And. and T just mentioned it. You got so many. guys in that secondary now with position. versatility with Humphrey, with Kyle. Hamilton. This guy fits right in. His. ball skills. His once again spatial. awareness and confidence like to be in. that slot as a safety and then not only. be in position but get that head around.

and high point the ball like that's. teach tape. That's an individual drill. For him to rep that in a high leverage. game is unbelievable. He's played in big. time games since the moment he stepped. on to Athens. So, I love everything. about this pick. This has Chuck Pagano. written all over it. Yeah, Chuck's going. to get Grady Whim hands on. Good. Good. dab with Raj Gadell. Ro Oh, he picked up. Raj Goodell. He carried Roger Goodell. We went chest to chest. Test to test. Picked up and moved him from one side of. the stage to the other. He is excited to. be a Raven. And I love that Goodell is.

pumped for him as well. uh adding a. great safety especially somebody that's. not scared or DB somebody that's not. scared big time player SEC he's played. against a lot of dogs in the wide. receiver he's played a lot of big games. I think that's a big deal for a DB don't. you think so coach big time a lot of. pelts on the wall I mean you love his. tenacity you know we're talking about. the high point on the interception. that's big time football you know once. again great great fit and I think. there'll be another safety coming up. here they go pretty.

homework. But if you watch a lot of the. these clips and if you watch his tape, like a lot of the stuff he's he's. communicating. He's playing he's playing. in a bunch. He's playing in a stack. And. like you said, he called the defense. He's like right here. He doesn't want to. get out leveraged to the flat. 13 has. him beat by by position. He He reads it. Boom. He knows I got first to the flat. Like just little things like that to. where you you're able to these combo. coverages to pick up these matches. Like. this is not easy to do. He's doing it in. real time against some of the best. receivers in the country. Finishing.

plays, too. like finishing plays. Like. that's a big deal for me for a DB. because possessions are so valuable. And. now if he's making plays, creating. turnovers, getting picks or fumbles, you're handing Lamar Jackson an extra. possession in the first or second half. of football game. That is huge, man. I. absolutely love this pick for the. Baltimore Ravens. AFC North gets tougher. seemingly and uh that's kind of the. culture of that division. Speaking of. tough, Detroit Lions, brand new Lions. are on the clock. Shrigs, what do we. think with the Lions tone? What are we.

uh are we are they trying to get out do. you think or is this a pick stick? I I. personally I thought they were going to. do like a best available defensive uh. player at this spot whether it was edge. We know the defensive injuries last. year. They were just decimated. I forgot. about that. They had what like 15. injuries. They were decimated on the. Dline. So is there, you know, a Dtackle. or a DN edge guy they like left or you. know they're always looking, you know, for for value at the corner position? I. know they brought in some corners this. year, but I wouldn't be surprised to see. someone in the secondary either. Craigs, your thoughts. Will Johnson's still on.

the board, local guy out of Michigan. And you know, they they brought in Will. uh obviously DJ Reed from the Jets. They. have Terry Arnold, so maybe corner is. not it, maybe safeties. But the truth. matter is this. I covered the draft two. years ago when they took a running back. at 12 and an inside linebacker at 18 and. Jack Campbell. And everyone was like, "This team sucks. What is Brad Holmes. doing?" And Jir Gibbons might be the. most dominant pick they've had in years. And of course, Campbell. Don't go by the. board and what you're hearing. Brad. Holmes is going to take who he wants. right now. Also, Jiad Campbell's still.

on the board. He's only there because. his shoulder injury. He's unbelievable. It feels like he feels like an Eagles or. Lions pick at the end of the year. Jiad. Campbell just because he's only there. because of his shoulder injury. So, we'll see. Love the way you're sitting. down there. I'm just I'm talking. Uh, let's go back to the truck. Evan. Fox, Detroit Lions fan. What are your. thoughts? Obviously nowadays as opposed. to back in the days, you have a lot more. trust in the decisions being made, I. assume. Yeah, 100%. And they were spot.

on. It's got to be a defensive guy. It. could be a corner. It could be defensive. end. It could be defensive tackle. That's kind of what we're all expecting. But most importantly, it's going to be a. dog. Brad Holmes finds dogs. And you. guys just mentioned the guy from. Alabama. He loves Alabama guys. Brian. Branch, J Mo amongst many. Jir Gibbs. obviously. So I would not be surprised. if that's what we go with. Hey Foxy, you. guys in the back are doing a great job. We're trying, man. We're trying to keep. up. First was Gumpy when they took that.

detail. Gumpy is so mad right now that. they didn't take Tyler Warren. Am I. right, Gumpy? That's all I wanted. It's. all I wanted all season. All I talked. about, I wanted Tyler Warren. That's all. I wanted. That's all he wanted. Yeah, we. didn't get him. It's great. Chris will. figure it out. Tyler Warren coming to. the Indianapolis Colts. Shout out to us. The pick is in for the Detroit Lions. We. assume I'm going Xi-hawk. I'm going to. I'm going to [ __ ] my pants thinking of. the Campbell and Campbell Law Firm. The. 2025 NFL draft. The Detroit Lions select. Ty Lee Williams defensive tackle Ohio.

State. Okay, what are they getting? AJ. Hawk out of Ty Williams. A big dude in. the middle that's played a ton of. football. You cannot move the guy a. disruptor. He may not get a ton of. sacks, but the guy is going to affect. the quarterback on passing plays and in. the run game. He does all the dirty. work. He's a monster. taking on doubles, splitting doubles. I love his hands. Larry Johnson's one of the best Dline. coaches in the country. He's been. coaching them. Yeah, I think it's a good. pick. Foxy, we like this. Love it. Absolutely love it. You got to have. beef. We all know beef wins games. It's. what the Eagles did. They just won the.

Super Bowl. This is perfect. Coach Mike. McCarthy, your thoughts on national. championship pedigree? Tai Lake. Williams? Outstanding. No, once again, every lineman that's been picked I got. my pom poms out here. Once again, I. mean, how many old linemen and D linemen. have been picked so far? I don't know. 20 at least 20, right? I mean, so I. mean, yeah, once again, anchor anchor. player inside just from the little that. I've seen, but you know, you'd never go. wrong with them picking the big man. Yeah, him and McNeel, they signed Alien. McNeel to a massive deal uh last year.

And then obviously Aiden Hutchinson. The. Lions are one of those teams too, though, where it's like how many how. many times are they going to get this. unlucky? Like last year was insane. Unbelievable. It was It was awful. Still. winning games somehow. Still number one. seed in the NFC and had nobody that we. knew on their defense playing. Yeah. Great coaching staff, great development. Kelvin Shepard, a friend of ours, New DC. after Glenn leaves. He gets a massive. piece on the Dline. Let's go down to the. draft cave. What were your thoughts on.

Tyreek this season? And Triggs, was this. expected out of the Detroit Lions? He's. a big boy. He's like 6'3 330 and he. anchored that Ohio State defense all. season long. He's actually he played all. four seasons. He he he played 12 games. his freshman year. That's a lot of Yeah, he's he played all four. He was all. conference the last two seasons. So. yeah, he's a great player and like he. wasn't one of the guys that was. mentioned a ton cuz there was a so much. talent on the Ohio State defense, but he. was definitely the anchor in the middle. I did not have this and I will say this. is classic Detroit. I'll never get their.

pick right. They go off the boards with. the mockdraft guys saying do not go. consensus and it has worked every single. time. And Brad Holmes I trust. Good. pick. I don't even know the player. National championship. DJ has him ranked. as a 67th player. I believe Mad Mel. Wow. That's very low. Uh Mad Mel Kyper. just re reapplied some hairspray to the. joy and delight of the fans who are. pretty boozed up and maybe even high at. this time of the draft. Without a. doubt. That loud pack is still rolling.

through the skies here at Green Bay. Go. loud pack. Go. Go loud pack. Go, go, Lou. And it's been going on to this set. and it has. I'm feeling a little bit. intoxicated. Uh, obviously got to make. sure the hair is perfectly quafted. It's. getting a little late. Listen, Tyler. Williams, great pick, great player, little bit of a stretch, I think. You. know, I had him a little bit further. down on my board, so a little bit, but. again, we talked about the Lions. This. is the kind of stuff they do. Okay, you. get him in there with Dan Campbell. He's. going to be a great player, unfortunately. That's kind of just the. way it works. All right, let's roll.

through an update of the draft thus far. Obviously, we are 28 picks down, four. picks to go. We started with Cam Ward, which was a foregone conclusion coming. in. Congrats to Cam Ward being the. number one overall pick in the Tennessee. Titans. Travis Hunter was with the. Jacksonville Jaguars after they trade. all the way up there. The New York. Giants take Abdul Carter on a. quarterback. Will Campbell to the. Patriots felt normal. Mason Graham. really had people up in arms. Uh there's. a lot of people that are confused by. that pick, including Peter Shreger who. said, "Mason Graham, base ass looking. dude going to Cleveland. Let's go. We'll.

see how he does." Genty first running. back off the board and then all the way. through Tyreek Williams feels like it's. been an interesting draft but every pick. we have set up here and said okay that. makes sense legitimately this is like. the first time long time where like some. of the picks like all right we can see. how they get there you know what I mean. coach yeah absolutely every team. watching the draft intently trying to. figure out what to do like are all the. teams and I guess this is a dumb. question for you but for me it's real. talking to John Schneider there a few. months ago he's still active right Now,

you think are is everybody still active. or is there some teams that know they're. done for the night and aren't even. paying attention to it? Oh, no. I mean, I've never seen that. I mean, you go all. the way to the end. I mean, you said, you know, then you have the post meeting. real quick and then obviously get back. in the morning. So, no, they're they're. definitely, you know, everybody's taking. every call, you know. So, yeah. No, they're they're still working. Mad Mel, last four picks. We're going to see any. brain busters, you think? Hair looks. great, by the way. Thank you very much. Uh I I mean, I'm going to be shocked if. someone doesn't come up and get Shadur.

Sanders. Doesn't look like it's going to. happen. I don't know what all these. [ __ ] morons are thinking. Again, I've. grinded this kid's tape. He's. unbelievable. He's the best quarterback. in the draft class. I know Coach. McCarthy has looked at his tape. He. likes some stuff about him as well. I'm. shocked that he hasn't gone gone yet. And I at this point, I don't think it's. going to happen, unfortunately. That's. kind of been the momentum last couple. days, you know, is like cuz there for a. while we're thinking maybe top three. pick. that was being chatted about by. everybody including Mel Kyper and Mad.

Mel Kyper. Shreger said it wasn't me. saying that, but there was a full convo. like, "Hey, it's Deion Sanders kid. Let's assume he'll be able to handle the. bright lights and the big Was it always. this way?" And I don't know, like how do. how does that narrative change so much. in the media over the course of the last. month and a half? Legitimately have no. idea. It's just the insiders, I guess. Coach, see you. Like, who sets it? Who. sets that? I I I just think the the. intensity of smoke screening is evident. This one though, this one's unique, guys. No, I've never in my life had seen. someone being mocked going second and.

third for weeks by everyone and then. doesn't go in the first round. So, this. one is unique and there's a lot of. different factors, but like I'm not. shocked right now. I never had Shador as. that guy cuz I never heard that from the. team. So, we couldn't as a media. necessarily foresee this, but we also. couldn't will it to happen either if. that's what it felt like early on in. this process. I feel for the kid. It. stinks. Everyone telling you you're. going to be the first quarterback taken. and then oh wait Cam Ward is oh then the. next week oh you're going to be a top. five pick and then now he's there. So I.

think it's unfortunate. Meanwhile the. draft is the draft. The NFL guys are. going to take who they want. Washington. Commanders pick is in. What a hell of a. year for them. 25 NFL draft. The. Washington Commander select Josh. Connelly Jr. tackle Oregon tackle not a. safety. You thought a safety was coming. to Washington. Coach feels like Yes, I. did. Am I allowed to say his name? What? Safety? No, no talking about this. talking about Josh. This could pick Wizy. and lineman.

I get to change my answer, right? I've. been feeding that old line to drum all. day. Stop now. Uh this is deep. This is. a lot of tackles. We we talked about. this with uh I think DJ's mock, Shrag's. mock, a lot of people's mocks was a lot. of tackles, a lot of offensive line, a. lot of defensive line. I think, you. know, maybe it's because the how the. players are. Rest in peace, Nipy Hustle. there on the back of the shirt. There's. a lot of players maybe not as good at. the skill positions, but I think. football right now is having a. renaissance in the trenches. Like I I.

just you look at the Philadelphia Eagles. Dline, best in the league, offensive. line, best in the league. It's a monkey. see monkey do league, copycat league. That's how they won. They ran the ball. 200 more times than they did pass the. ball throughout the season. And maybe. it's because there's a an abundance of. talent on offensive line and D line, but. also I think it's I think it kind of. represents where the game is right now. too, coach. I think it's always been. there. I mean, it really really has. I I. just think, you know, if you look at the. playoff games, you know, when you stand. on you look at the O line and D line.

usually tells a story. I mean, it tell. it's a big part of the story. And um and. that's at the in the value of these big. men. And we talked about it because. there's going to be obviously a hole. there in the second and third round. where you know because there's so many. that that went this high. So I think. it's very smart by these teams to jump. up here, you know, to grab these big. guys. Yeah, there's a guy out there. spinning a top right now that you. wouldn't believe, coach. There's a. chance that guy needs to get the Oh, that's a pillow. That's even more. Oh.

no. He dropped it. Yeah, he dropped it. There he is. going to be bad. He's smell. He's spinning a pillow. He just dropped. it again. There he is. Oh no. Oh no. What's that there, pal? That's some. Wisconsin cheddar. 15year white cheddar. cheese. Love that coach. But even to the. trenches 2023 that Super Bowl, you know, Chiefs ners and the Chiefs were running. the ball way more. That was the entire.

thing where they reloaded their O line. after you know the Tampa loss and then. San Fran too. That's what McAffrey had. like 22 touchdowns in a season. So it. has been like the last few years game. I. mean. always the trenches I think I think. every draft kind of is obviously a draft. of his own. This is obviously deep in. the trench. We knew it coming in and it. it's lived up to that so far. But like. like coach Mike said, I know in our. meetings, regardless of what was going. on, it was always, hey, we better stop.

the run first, control the game, and. then once you get into those playoff. games, just kind of like NBA basketball, it's all running and gun until you get. to those playoffs and it becomes, hey, half court possessions, how can you get. it stopped? Same way in the NFL. Also. understanding what you have in Jaden. Daniels. This guy's a generational. talent. They they went out, they they. trade for Laramie Tonsel, one of the. best left tackles in the NFL. You add. this guy, you got to as Pat eats the the. Wisconsin white cheddar and the crowd. goes absolutely a [ __ ] Looks delicious.

But 15 year 15 year age white. cheddar top notch. That's what they do. here. They love cheese. So you're telling me the cow milk thing? Yep. Was 15 years ago? You bet. And now. I'm eating this. Yes, that's cheese. How. the hell does that work? How is that? Cheese is like wine. That should be. $9,000 worth of cheese then if that's. the case. No, they pasteurize it, [ __ ].

Don't you know anything about dairy. farming? Jesus Christ. No, I don't. Teach me. Now's not the time. Now's not. the time. $4.52 is blocking. Well, that is great. Good luck. Good. luck, brother. passing right now wants to eat the. cheese. Give him a little sliver. Little sliver.

He's going to do one. Yeah. Pretty good. Pretty good cheese. Pretty good. Yeah, pretty good cheese. AJ's eating cheese. That's abnormal. Normally, it's just chicken and rice. I. love cheese. I actually love cheese. I. don't like fancy cheese though. Vu. debut. I wonder why. That's weird. Debbut fake ate that. PWI. That was a work, brother. Are you guys done with this? We can jump in there, man. You guys done.

with Are you done with it? You're a bad. guy. You guys want it? I already had. some. Oh, now he's going to break open. [ __ ] your cheese. Oh my god. [ __ ] that. cheese. just inviting them to sucks. It. smells like [ __ ]. That was delicious. Jeez. I never just I. never had a bite. I never just like just. eat grab a block of cheese and eat it. But shout out to Green Bay, man. Nice. shi. Not that Did you see that? I mean,

it's just it's sitting in my mouth. So, yeah. That's why I was I was pointing at. this stuff to get to. you. on. I was pointing at that stuff to. get to Oh, shut up. If the only thing. you have to offer to society is cheese, your town sucks. Okay. Football team here. And that's a. fact. Great. Roger Goodell is at the. stage or the second time tonight we have. the opportunity to grant a wish for a.

deserving young man to announce the. first pick for his favorite team. Hell. yeah. Tommy. Baby Tommy. Let's go, Tommy. Tommy, love it. Yeah. Shoes are sick. Tommy is a 16-year-old. living with a neuromuscular. disorder, is a huge Buffalo Bills fan, and he's here with me to make the. announcement for his beloved Bills. Hell.

yeah, Tommy. corner safety. There you go. Let's go. Buffalo. Hell yeah, Tony. With the 30th pick in the 2025 NFL. draft, the Buffalo Bills select Maxwell. Harrison. Let's go. Let's Oh, pick. Other. DB. Maxwell Harrison, I believe, out of. Kentucky. Correct. Yeah, out of.

Kentucky. Uh, goes to the Buffalo Bills. Brandon Bean uh solidifies uh member of. the backfield. How do you feel about. this Darius Jay Butler? I love it. Resigned Christian Benford earlier in. the offseason who I think is a very good. underrated corner uh in the NFL. And. Taran Johnson, one of the best slot. defenders as well. So you you got a. pretty good starting three out there at. quarterback. Maxwell Harrison uh. explosive. Ran a 428 at the combine. Was. absolutely flying. He's a playmaker,

too. ball skills and he can flip the. game at the blink of an eye. Obviously. anticipates well, can make plays and. once he make plays, he's always a threat. to take it all the way back into the end. zone. So, I love this pick right here. Uh missed some time last year, I. believe, with a shoulder injury, I. think. I'm not sure. Uh but a great pick. and then a great spot right here for the. Buffalo Bills. He's wearing blue. Now, obviously went to Kentucky. He'll be. wearing blue for the Buffalo Bills. Let's go down to the draft cave. Shriggs, why do you think Maxwell. Harrison ends up with Buffalo? Yeah,

it's a one of those best player. available, but also an absolute burner. Brandon Bean, who's a friend of this. show, of course, friend of mine. This is. what he's always looking for. A guy who. not only has the stuff on the tape, but. can also come in and burn and be an. actual combine warrior. Uh curious here. to see if there is a team at 31 or 32. who's going to hop in. Maybe. I don't. think so right now, but I look to my man. right to the left of me. What do you. like about this player? Uh let's not. forget what happened to the Buffalo. Bills. Uh I can't remember which corner. it was. went out in the playoff game and.

then they just got absolutely torched. the rest of the game. So, a great pick. for them. He had six career. interceptions. Three of them went back. to the house. So, when he gets his hand. on the ball, uh it it always he always. takes it home. And then five. interceptions in 2023. He was out a lot. of the season this year uh with the. shoulder surgery. Um but no, great. I. don't I I don't I don't often mention. agents names and I don't really care. about who represents who. had a. conversation with Ed Barry who is the. Saquon Barkley. Aaron Rod's agent and early on in the.

process Ed Barry hits me up in February. and is like you don't know his name now. Maxwell Harrison will be a first round. pick so shout out to Ed Barry the best. looking agent in the game yeah young lad. I saw him marry somebody I mean he's a. real deal Ed Barry he uh he went to UK. as well yeah and he was a football. player I talked we talked to him at the. combine headun he's a head hunter. handsome so shout out to Maxwell. Haristston uh explosive. We'll be. talking to Brandon Bean here, I think, here in a matter of moments. The Eagles. and the Chiefs just swapped picks. So, Shrekes, your intuition was accurate. You just didn't know what was happening.

I don't know who it was for though. And. now it's interesting. You s you show you. go one pick up. So, there must be. someone obviously that the Eagles love. who's still on the board. We'll see who. it is. And they said, "We don't want. Chiefs take this guy." So, who would. that be? Jihad Campbell still up. Has to. be another. So, who. Simmons is on the board still. You look. at the big offensive lineman, you think. of Stoutland. Johnson, they lost area. It would have to be a player that they. thought the Chiefs were going to take, right, coach? If you're moving up one.

pick, yeah, it's a blinking light. I. mean, definitely if you go up one pick, it's it's someone You've said blinking. light a couple times. That means like uh. as they come off the board, you got you. got one guy sitting there, you know, that's five, six, seven slots higher. than Yeah. potential yellow jacket upper. yellow. jacket. Chiefs like Harrison maybe or something. of that nature. There was one guy that. was like, "All right, well, since we're. not getting him, we might as well get. another fourth." And he retrades back in. every draft, right? Isn't that his his. MO? He has that record for most uh.

trades. You think this was just maybe to. uh Hey, I need to keep the trend going. Did it last year, did it last year? So, I I believe what is being reported is. that uh the Eagles are adding a dog to. the defense. Now, did they think the. Chiefs were potentially going to take. him or why would you give up a fourth to. move up one? That has to be the case. I. guess that that would have to be the. reason why um this Philadelphia Eagles. team last year on paper and obviously,

you know, in the NFC East, yeah, they. were loaded. They had number one defense. in the league and then they had the. number one run game in the league. And I. guess since the beginning of football, if you have the number one rushing. offense and the number one defense, you're gonna win a Super Bowl. I I think. that is just kind of what it has been. Yep. Cam Jurgens came in for Jason. Kelce. Seamless Jason Kelce dog. Absolutely unbelievable. Cam yellow. jacket. He's a yellow jacket. Yellow. jacket. He is a yellow jacket. Post. football and during football he is. They. had to get new OC, new DC. You're.

talking about everything over there in. Philadelphia and the roster that they. had and the team that they had. It was. on paper best team in football and then. it's Super Bowl legitimized. Yeah. Now. they're potentially adding another. weapon to that defense that was. very Vic was considered dead. Vic. Fangio, this guy can't do football. anymore after the Miami Dolphins. situation. Now the Eagles uh seemingly. loading up on defense even more. You saw. him obviously twice. That team was so. good at football last year. I mean I.

clearly from the by by week I thought. clearly they were the best team in. football and the most consistent team. you know and then obviously you know had. the tough divisional game against um. against the Rams and obviously in the. championship game of Super Bowl were. decisive victories but yeah once again. let's talk about the trenches you know. it's they they had it on both sides of. the ball. I thought their young players, particularly the rookie class, really as. a season got on and uh the thing that. really jumps out, I know personally we. were what minus 8 turnover ratio against. them in two games. You can't you can't.

beat Jones Junior High with that. So, I. mean, but the point they do a great job. taking care of the football, you know, taking the ball away it, you know, they're definitely built the right way. Coach, you've obviously went against him. a couple times. What do you think about. the job that coach Serriani's done all. last year getting killed by the media. saying, "Hey, they need to fire this. [ __ ] clown. This guy's a [ __ ] He. doesn't know what he's doing." He gets. killed, coach. I don't know how much you. know. He was getting killed all season. and he just keeps going, keeps staying. the course and they win the Super Bowl. What do you think about the job he's. done in Philadelphia? He's done a great. job. I mean, think about it. I mean, he.

won a Super Bowl last year, but he's. this he's been in his second one. I. mean, his numbers speak for themselves, you know, and they some jobs have a. little more pressure than others. Philadelphia, you know, as we know, is, you know, it's it's a different place. and um and the intensity is here, but. you have to admire the job Nick has. done. Let's go into the uh draft cave. here. Philadelphia Eagles potentially. maybe taking Jihad Campbell, linebacker. from Alabama. Yep. Uh that fits team. very very well. So, dude, I mean, the.

these players just keep following them. and they and they're not going to stop. taking them. I mean, it happened with. Jaylen Carter, not as as far. Obviously, they took him at 10. He is, uh, Daniel. Jeremiah's 12th ranked player. Um, he's. only here because he had a shoulder. injury. He had 117 tackles this year. Um, he was a five-star edge coming out. and they moved him to offball and he he. flourished this year. He only had eight. missed tackles all year. He was one of. three players who had more than 100. tackles to have uh less than 10 missed. tackles. Chase, he he ran a 45 at the.

combine at 63, 230. like he's he's just. an absolute monster. When he sees it, he. goes and gets it. Like he I I love this. player. The stat the stat that I love, guys, is that he has the most tackles in. a season from an Alabama player since De. Mo Ryan's in 2003. So Demo of course did. spend some time in Philly. And I'll just. say this, Vic Fangio, that man's a dog. And what he did with those young guys. last year and got them to get to Nolan. Smith where he went where he had to go. And of course the rookies in Cooper.

Deene and obviously Quinan Mitchell, but. like what their defense went from two. years ago and one year, you cannot. underestimate the impact of Vic Fangio. He might be the best defensive. coordinator in all of football and now. he gets just another piece. Uh. unbelievable pickup and how he does it. again. Spagnola would certainly have a. conversation with at the Kansas City. Chiefs. Uh, but nonetheless, that. Philadelphia Eagles team, anytime you. have 14 eyes on the quarterback because. your front four can work, you're talking. about Gil being off the ball, the four. guys up front can get home. That was uh.

very evident in the Super Bowl and all. season long, defense. Yeah, especially. when you have guys on the back end like. Zack Bond was a former edge rusher, too, that moved to off the ball. Had a. defensive player of the year caliber. season. Now you Nico Dean was a great. leader out there. He got banged up. So. now you got him coming in. Communicators, great communicators, great coaching. that I can look at the. players, see how much they're talking, communicating pre- snap, and I can tell. how well they're being. Coach saw that. rookie year with Cooper Deene. Jiad Campbell, linebacker,

also the Pat the moving up one pick. It. was either this year or next year. I. think the Eagles have like 12 picks. So, they have picks to give. They give up. they give up a fifth round pick. It's. not And that guy's going to go on to be. a Hall of Famer. Sorry. Jihad Campbell. uh gets selected to Philadelphia Eagles. obviously a dog. Uh congrats to him. Congrats to the Eagles. Now the Chiefs. are on the clock. Uh 30 second pick. Even when they don't win a Super Bowl, they get the Super Bowl pick of this. entire thing. Patrick Mahomes has.

tweeted out. What's this mean? Cool. Cool. Sunglasses guy. No, I think I. think it means like I like what's about. to happen. Okay. I I think it means I. like what's about to happen. It's got to. be Luther. It's got to be a left. It's. got to be a got to be a left tackle from. Ohio State. Yeah, a lineman. They got. they got no tuning. I'm thinking. receiver. Offensive line has to be, but. I feel O line definitely position need. We saw it show up often with him last.

year. But the sunglasses just make me. think wide out. Yeah, cuz he Yeah. Yeah. But we'll see. Or tight end. Yeah, cuz. what emoji would he use if it was an. offensive lineman? A muscle. A fat show. the arm thing or or a fact one. maybe emoji. I think they got rid of. that. I think they got rid of that. Bring it back. I like they can do the. pregnant person. Yeah, I don't know if. that's still up there too. Maybe. I'm. not 100% sure. We got best now. I mean,

all these old linemen have flown off the. board. Dline edge guys. Do we have only. a couple receivers went couple corners. DB? Like who's the best available? I. don't know if you guys have it or not. Um Will Johnson, Mike Green, Josh. Simmons, who's the tackle from Ohio. State. Um Black Dackle from Iowa. Abs. Absolutely. Henderson. Yep. And Jun, Nick Warary, the safety out of South. Carolina. Hold on. Both Ohio State. running backs still. Ohio State running. back. Yeah, you love that. If you're. talking, I think that Who's that? I.

think he'd be a great picker. South. Carolina safety. Oh, yeah. Also, don't. forget Andy, what did they did they. trade in to get LSU running back a few. years ago? Yeah, Clyde Edwards. So maybe. they drafted him last in the first. round. But you know, you look at what. they're they're teaming. They lost. Justin Reed. So Mike said uh coach. McCarthy said and that is interesting. I. you know, Steve will use my I don't have. any information on it. I just think that. would be coach. Can you tell me about. Andy Reid? Obviously longtime coach. You. both have been in the NFL a long time. He has careers in two different places.

Obviously had sustained success. offensive guy. I think you both were. here for the Packers at some point. No, I actually followed Andy here. Okay. Yeah. He was a quarterback coach and he. went to Philly in 99 and I I replaced. him here as a as a quarterback coach in. 1999. So, what do you think about Andy. Reed and his style? Why is it though. he's so good? Super consistent. Um, you. know, I think like anything, you know, Andy's been successful in two in two. places. So, he has a great system. I. mean, he has great systems and I think. like anything is a young coach and we. all go through it. You know, everybody.

has a plan, you know, and it's the it's. the it's the Mike Tyson. Yeah. Everybody. has a plan. you get punched in the face. But, you know, Andy's systems in in the. way he's evolved, it's tremendous. I. mean, you watch you watch her off once, it's always it's always evolving and and. obviously with Spags on defense. I mean, that that's a great great combination. And then they got Tobe, right? To on. special teams. I mean, that's that. that's a that's a strong unit right. there. Yellow Jackets. There's a lot of. yellow jackets. Yellow jackets. That's a. lot of yellow. Yeah. Hey, before we're. on a 30 second pick.

Good crowd. Good crowd. Great crowd. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Mike. I love. that. Uh, allegedly the Chiefs might be. taking a tackle from Ohio State who won. a national championship last year. Okay, so that's why um that's why Patch. Mahomes be pretty cool. Oh yeah, I'm. back there cool chilling. Yeah, chilling. He's he's got sunglass on, but. he's the son. Ah, sunglasses on his son. He's a cool guy. The reason why he's.

cool is because he's got new security. out there to the left. Madel Kyper, you. pumped up for the Chiefs and Patrick. Mahomes. Absolutely. Love this pick. I. mean, we we need Mahomes to, you know, kind of be that guy again. I'm sick and. tired of them, you know, mixing. matching, trying to get a guy out there. Let's protect the guy. We know what he. can do when he is upright, when he's. healthy. They've been trying to figure. this out for a couple years now and it. seems like this might be the pick to. finally kind of put the nail in the. coffin and and maybe they have, you. know, their left tackle for the next 10. to 15 years. And we're watching these. highlights. He's a dog. Absolute baller.

Furniture mover. It'd be crazy. This. furniture this many tackles have been. taken. He's still available. Yeah. Well, I think that's like 18 uh trenches wise. in the first round. 18 total players. He. was uh he was probably originally going. to be a top 10 15. He he uh hurt his ACL. uh towards Patella. Towards Patella. That's a kneecap for against organ in. October. Yeah. Yeah. So he just got he. literally just got cleared I think this. week. Um the doctors were at the combine. were were super happy about where he.

was. Um so yeah, that's a that's a steal. for obviously the Chiefs get a you know. a steal of an offensive line. 30 second. pick. Hey Coach McCarthy, how do you. feel about them taking the tackle? Yeah, I got to come up with some few. more verbs. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is. a man who drafted Maxwell Haristston out. of Kentucky, the general manager of the. Buffalo Bills, friend of the program, Brandon Bean. I know Bane, he got a fast, explosive DB. in the building. Was this always the.

choice? Uh, did you know he was going to. be available? No, you didn't. You You. never know. I mean, corner is a premium. position and so you're just really when. you're sitting at 30, you can go so many. different ways. So, um, he was a guy we. had our eye on for sure and as it got. close, we kind of felt like he may go. There were some teams with corner needs. in front of us, but, uh, fortunately, he. he was there and we fired up to get him. What were your thoughts on how the draft. went tonight? A lot of trenches work. Lot of trenches work. Did you guys know. that coming in? Yeah, I mean there's a.

there's a lot of talent there. I think. people were sticking with their board. and and not trying to reach too much. And it's not a, you know, it wasn't. heavy at the top of quarterbacks and so. that, you know, in our world that. stinks. We like it when there's a lot of. good quarterbacks because that pushes. better position players down. But um, no, I think I thought it was, you know, teams made sensible decisions and that's. why we were nervous at 30 that a guy. like Max uh, probably wouldn't be there. Well, he was there and he was pumped to. join your squad. I don't know if you saw. him walk the tunnel. He went up to the.

Bills logo and went bananas. Darius has. a question for you. Yeah, you bet. All. these corners, DBs being available. What. was it about Max Pacific that has. separated him from the pack? Yeah. I. mean, uh, infectious personality, infectious smile, this and he can run. I. mean, just, you know, you can never add. enough speed. That's something, you. know, you're always looking for on both. sides of the ball. And but he's not just. a a man guy. This guy can play zone. He's got ball skills. Um, he he had a. really good year the year before. He got. nicked up shoulder thing this year.

Missed part of the season, but uh tough. kid. healed up, ready to go and and. we're excited to add him to, you know, to our group. Now, what do you look. forward to for the next couple rounds? Are you already prepared for that or is. it just kind of see how it goes? Yeah, I'm going to uh knock out the media and. uh here next after you guys put you guys. first. Thank you, Mr. Bean. Thank you, Mr. I have a there's one last question. for you from Mad Mel. Maybe not a. question, just an opinion, I assume. Well, yeah. Be just curious. Listen. Hey, I know that you guys just gave Josh.

Allen basically a billion dollars, but. was there any consideration? You're. sitting there, my number one guy on the. boards there, Shadur Sanders. Did it. ever cross your mind, hey, maybe we go. grab this guy and and, you know, just. kind of stash him underneath Josh. We uh we kind of blacked out the whole. quarterback board. So, we were uh we we. didn't look at any quarterbacks uh in. the first round. Maybe later, but uh not. round one. Hey, congratulations on what. seems to be a great pick and another. great first round for you. Coach Mike.

McCarthy's here. I don't know if you. have any messages for him. He's been. great on this show tonight. I don't. know. How you doing, coach? Doing good. Great job, Brandon. I know this is uh. all the work goes into it. Good luck the. next few days. Appreciate that. Much. respect to you, coach. Good to see you, buddy. All right, ladies and gentlemen, the general manager of the Buffalo Bill. is Brandon Bean. Thank you, buddy. All right, and that's that. Huh. Here is. how the draft shook up this evening. From Cam Ward to Josh Shims and all the.

picks in between. We had a pitcher who. is a lefty drafted to Seattle that can. throw 90 mph. We had some steals. We had. some reaches. We had a lot of picks that. I think we all said good for them. That. feels like uh that feels like good play. Tyler Warren is a member of the. Indianapolis Colts. I'm pumped up about. that. Travis Hunter got picked number. two overall, which you know was supposed. to be Shador at the beginning of this. entire process. Then Travis Hunter. became the conversation quickly. Abdul. Carter, Will Campbell kind of chalk.

across the board the first four. Ashton. Genty doesn't get picked fifth. Mason. Graham does. And uh the story of the day. is it was a trenches draft. That is. basically the only convo you can have I. think about this first round. Don't you. think, coach? Yeah, no doubt. And. congratulations to these young men. And. you think about they're they're all. first round picks in the NFL draft. I. mean their starting line has been. established. So for them to be, you. know, to get this to this is exciting. cuz now you know cuz now the road the. real work starts. So and and it's going. to be exciting to wait see what happens. the next few days. You got rookie free.

agency. So you know you think of this. thing and in the big picture of things. every NFL club, you know, they're. they're loading up their database, you. know, with four or 500 players. So I. mean this is this is a big day. I can't. say enough for for these personnel. departments and how much they put into. this. So, just much respect and uh best. of luck to everybody next two days. We'd. like to say the amount of work you put. in since finding out you're doing this. has been nothing short of impressive. We. appreciate the hell out of you, coach. You crushed it. Hell yeah, coach. Coach,

you absolutely crushed it. It was. awesome. I mean, these people have been showing. you love obviously since you got back. into town, as they should, and they're. appreciative of you, but like you. crushed it for us here tonight. We're. very thankful because, you know, how can. you prepare a guy for a show that has no. real. anything? Yeah. No lane. It's like, coach, you're just going to get peppered. with questions all night. All right, I'll do my research. You know, watches. his tape, has his notes. You were first. class throughout this entire thing. And. inviting us to your barn earlier so we. could get a workout, going to dinner.

with us last night. We're so thankful. for you, coach. You kicked ass here. We're very, very grateful for you. Well, thank you. No, it's been great to be. part of it. It's always good seeing. seeing my first draft pick that we. didn't even talk about in 2006. Oh yeah. AJ AJ's got us started back in 06 first. year. I remember first team meeting. That was your I didn't realize it was. your first team meeting as a head coach. Absolutely. Yeah. So as uh remember the. great pinst pinstripe suit you showed. up. I remember he did say one time a. couple years later he came back and said. I should have been put in jail the way I.

practice you when I first got here. That. was old school CBA two days full pads. day one. We preach practice at like 8:30. in the morning, 6:30 at night. Just. that's when football was football. Coach, can we talk about that though? He. was your first pick. He was the fifth. overall pick at linebacker out of Ohio. State. He was uh stubborn with his. medical reporting for the teams that. were looking to draft him. Uh he told us. stories about lying to people about. injury history and everything like that. because of, you know, those not telling. him. I said, "If you want to find it, check my check my file. If you think I.

got a knee, if I've had four knee, I may. have had four knee scopes. as my file. said and my file says too. I'm not. correcting it. Anyways, it worked out. Uh, what was it about AJ that made you. guys pull the trigger? We love him and. we're lucky to talk to him every single. day. I mean, I can remember, you know, Ted Thompson was um there's really no. questions about AJ, you know, when one. thing you always when you look at the. history, you know, multisport athlete in. high school, obviously had a great. career, you know, at uh at Ohio State, impact player, tackling machine, and. he's got a [ __ ] nose of a middle.

linebacker. Yes. I was telling my son, sorry about. that. That's a. compliment [ __ ] ball. No. And he he. and he's the illustration of what we had. back then. You know, same guy every day. Never had to worry about AJ. True pro. the day the day he showed up. Hell yeah. AJ. And what was it like playing for. coach McCarthy? I've only been with him. for 24 36 hours. The best. I wish I. could have played on a team that you. were coaching. I just want to let you. know that. Coach McCarthy was actually.

one quick one. I got called in. I got. caught on camera flicking off somebody. in the sidelines. It was a joke. A coach. probably didn't remember it, but they I. remember I was in a towel. I was in a. towel and the PR guys came, "Hey, come. here. We got you got to talk to coach. before you talk to the media." And I. walked into this office I didn't even. know existed and on the bottom floor in. Lambo. I'm in a towel. And I was like. mad. I'm like, "What are we what are we. talking about? This is a joke." Like and. he said he's he got he he wasn't pissed. at me, but he was like, "Calm down. Calm. down. We just got to get our story. straight. What was going what were we. doing? What the hell was that?" I was.

like, "Coach, I've actually done this. like five or six other times. Just. wasn't caught on camera." And but I was. like, "It's a joke." I was, you know, and he was really cool with it. So, I. appreciate him for that. I got I got. fined from the league. Let's. call I came in I came in a little hot. just in that town. I was like, "What am. I doing in here?" Like, "Let me go. Let's What? This is so stupid." And he. he like. he he felt me. He felt me coming in how. hot I was and he like calmed me down. instantly. Okay, I get it. Coach gets. it. We're fine. Coach, your players love. you. I bet, man. I I that's the best. compliment you can give to a coach. I.

don't think I've ever heard a player. that's ever played for you say anything. differently and I could see why. You are. an absolute dog and we have no idea what. your future is in a football world. Okay. Uh we're very grateful you're. here. We assume you're going to coach. again cuz you're a football guy. That's. what football guys do. But just know. that if you ever want to do media, you. are very welcome to join us. And I think. you would do very well in whatever you. do in the ball world. And uh tonight has. been awesome. and the stories we've. heard from you and about you just kind. of stamp everything we thought the inter.

football guy and uh the football world's. lucky for you. We're also lucky for down. the draft c uh cave Peter Shrager. Thank. you for joining us tonight by the way. pop for you out here guys for you out. here. I got to tell you I had such a. blast with you. I'll put this draft. broadcast against the one I used to. always be on NFL Network and against all. the ESPN ones. It was so much fun. And. I'll also say this, Pat, I had great. reservations that we were going to be. tipping and picks all this stuff. This. was the purest and most wonderful.

experience I've had on draft night. And. I'll tell you something what was really. great about it. We celebrated every. single player selected and gave them. their due. We didn't make this a reality. show about the guys not being drafted. Kudos to you and I can't thank you. enough for how warm the reception's. been. Sher, we love you, buddy. You're the goat. We we said this to everybody like. Shreger should not be available for our. show. Yeah, what a. miss. Should not be available. So, thank. you for joining us and uh we'll continue.

to watch you as you crush it on ESPN. AP. Tone, the amount of work you put in uh. on this entire draft process. We. appreciate the help. Great work, Tone. Thank you, brother. It's a pleasure. It's my favorite. It really is. But all. the film, all the staff, I mean, everything you did for this program, you. should be incredibly proud of yourself. You uh you crushed it this year, Tone. Thank you, brother. I I appreciate that. Means a lot. You know, it does. Um it's. my literally my favorite thing to do. every single year and it's it's not. work. I mean, we we get to do this. It's. awesome and I appreciate it. I think we. had 230,000 concurrents at one point.

Damn. Yes. Wow. Yeah. I It might have. got more than that. It might have got. less than that. I guess there's some. problems with Oh, you don't say. I guess. there were some things dropping out. I. guess there was some crashing going on. Pretty good little night, I guess. Thank. you all for watching at home. Obviously, the toxic table at Blossom Conor Mad Mel. Kyper, boys. [Applause]. Okay, we're currently sitting at 1.4. million views on YouTube alone. Okay, that's a big number. Uh, that will only. grow obviously through the night. Thank. you to everybody that watched. And thank. you to Mad Mel for legitimizing our.

show. Amen. You know that's what you do, Mad Mel. You and Coach Mike McCarthy's. clapping. Mad Mel, you legitimize our. show, brother. Why Why are we not doing. Why are we working tomorrow? [Applause]. I got I got volleyballs, you know. with it's been [ __ ] awesome being in. Green Bay, you know, being in coach's. barn earlier. I mean, [ __ ] if I would. have told 16-year-old me or, you know, 21-year-old me when the Packers won a. Super Bowl when I was in college, holy. [ __ ] [ __ ] I would have smacked the. taste out of my mouth. That's [ __ ].

This has been an incredible night. The. fans here, great. Unbelievable all. night. And boy, still out here. Place is. empty, by the way. Place is empty except. for right here. That's amazing. Yeah, I. am. So, I'm going to drink a hundred. booze cocktails whenever we get done. tonight. I'm ready to to [ __ ] rip it. It just been an unbelievable amount of. We will certainly do that at houses that. are built for booze cocktails, which we. are Airbnbing. Boston Connor obviously. Foxboro similar driving through like.

neighborhoods to get to the stadium. This place different than I think I've. ever Yeah, I think this is probably the. most unique experience in all of sport. in America. And would you agree with. that? Oh, without a doubt. Because even. like with Foxboro, with Massachusetts, there's other sports. Like all they have. here is Packers football. They're. booming, but they these are the best. type of crowds. You want the interactive. crowds. You want the ones that are going. to, you know, kind of chirp. So, it's. been incredible since the beginning. And, you know, Green Bay is a great spot.

for a draft because it is fully. dedicated to only football. We talk. about football tons, Pittsburgh, you. know, Foxboro, New England, things of. that nature. all those other cities. The. thing that separates it, you know, Green. Bay from all those is that it's it's. strictly football. You know, they're not. they don't give a [ __ ] about basketball. They don't give a [ __ ] about hockey in. Green Bay. They do in Wisconsin, but. they truly don't have a team, you know, in Green Bay the way they have a. football team. So, it's been incredible. The boos have been hilarious for me. But.

hearing, you know, the chance for, you. know, Mike, for AJ, for Tai, people. throwing [ __ ] up to you, you chugging. beers off camera that Yeah. and dirt. Coach, I wouldn't do that anywhere. You. know me, but it. it's been awesome. Pittsburgh next year. will be, I assume, very similar, but not. a setup like this. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. Maybe we will literally see. I I mean, this has felt the singalong, the vibe, the feel. It's been fantastic.

Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, you've had a great night tonight, Dutch. You, too. Uh, what are your thoughts on. this draft? What do you What do you. think about what everybody said? First. of all, sitting here with coach Mike. McCarthy, man been just the ultimate. respect. Pay gave us so much hospitality. bringing us to your bar in this city. I. had my reservations about the draft. being at Green Bay. This has been. awesome. The crowd has been amazing and. and coach said it earlier like. congratulations to these young men. Like. this is a dream that we all had. We all. dream to be first round picks uh in the.

NFL and they're actually realizing their. dream and then the work just starts. But. it's been a long journey for them. All. the ups, all the downs. uh even the. whole process since the college season. ended to this point with them and their. families. So just much respect to them. and everybody that didn't get called. tonight. We got a long weekend ahead and. then some free agents be picked up as. well. So this was an awesome awesome. night, man. I love draft night. Um it's. been incredible and this crowd still. bringing it legit. Yeah. Got to respect. it. Real healing right now. Four hours into.

this. I'm ready for physicality. I know. you are. I'm clear for physicality. This is 4. hours in. These people are still. rolling. Shout out to the cheese they. sent us. And also shout out to the. truck. Great work, boys. Great work, boys. Everybody in the And also back in India. at the Thunderdome. Thank you for all. the work. And to the uh the all-time. leading tackler in the history of the. Green Bay Packers, AJ, thank you so much, brother. You're. great. This is awesome. I didn't know.

what to expect, but yeah, coach Coach N. Appreciate these people. I didn't. realize everybody else was left and. they're just around here. I thought. everybody's here. Yeah. I'm staring out. at an empty Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is. completely empty. We're probably the. only ones still going. The NFL shut off. their music up there. They had a. DJ. You That's amazing. That guy's. spinning the top. What is the hat he's. spinning? That's a pillow. He's the one. that tossed the cheese out of his. pocket. Yeah, that guy right there.

Hopefully his pocket. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. the pants. You never know. There's some. more cheese stick. Oh, I think that's. Kobe Jack. [ __ ] throw it back. He. throw it back. Oh, here we go. Conor will eat it. Oh, no. Conor, here we go. Stand up. Stand. up. Oh, it's Sarento. That's good [ __ ]. Good stuff. Big sponsor. Is this thing. going to open or No, you got to. definitely peel. Definitely peel first. I don't know if that'll work. I don't.

know if it's if it's even a peel. This. stage is sick, too. That I mean, ours. that had NFL drafts there. They're trying to They give you cheese. and they tell you to go [ __ ] yourself. with the cheese. They want him to [ __ ]. himself up with the cheese. Okay. Oh, they want you to eat it. Oh, eat it. Oh, no. He's going to eat it, right? Oh, no. Yeah, right. In what world? [ __ ]. marks. Marks. Yeah, right. Some good healing. idiots, man. All right. Uh, we.

appreciate you all so much for hanging. with us. For everybody that watch at. home, you're the greatest. Let's. remember, uh, all right, we're going to hang on to. this, Sarento. We'll enjoy that later. Be a friend, tell a friend something. nice. It might change your life. We're. in this thing together. Team on me. We'll eat the cheese. We'll beat the. cheese. We'll meet the cheese. And we're. lucky to be a part of the town known for. cheese. You guys crushed it tonight. Green Bay is an incredible.

city. The draft has a lot of dreams come. true and I think we're living out one. every single time we get a chance to do. this. Team on three. Coach, you crush it. tonight. One, two, three. Good boy.