Kaja Kallas: why China doesn’t want Ukraine to win

You had an extraordinary conversation. with the Chinese foreign policy chief. Wangi about how China sees the war in. Ukraine and it was reported that he said. to you that China has an interest in. seeing Russia not lose. What what was. his message to you? >> Uh his message was that uh it's not in. their interest uh that this war stops. because then America's intention will. turn to China and and it's not in their. interest. It is interesting um you know.

why he said that. Later on I spoke to. some thinkers from Japan whose. assessment was that actually that war in. Ukraine is not very popular in China. So. they need to also explain this to the. people why they are the key enablers of. this uh war. Um so so to make this. softer and say see this is in our. [Music].