Is this how the Western alliance dies?

The old world order ad is over. It is. time to start thinking about how to. build the new and I think that's where. the big focus needs to be for Europe. Not So, I'm less concerned about. thinking is it going to be President. Rubio? Is it going to be Vance? It's more is Europe going to move fast. enough to be prepared for this new. world. >> I find it very hard to know how middle. powers. organize themselves. Um you know, it's noticeable that that. in the EU they manage and they manage by. having a very legalistic sort of. process-driven approach because process.

is what allows countries to put their. rivalries aside in the moment and and. cooperate. But, you know, most of these. things require a a big power, a hegemon. to basically not knock everyone into. line. So, I I kind of really wonder how. you get something out this without. France worrying about Germany being too. powerful, about South Korea worrying. about Japan. >> The alternative to having a leader is to. have fear. If you're fearing that the. outside has to be dealt with in a way. that you didn't fear before, then you. are motivated to act. >> I think we are at the beginning. We've.

had another big episode to remind us. very powerfully that the old order is. dead. It reminds us how scary it is when. it happens. President Trump makes it. much much worse, but I do think that it. also yields an opportunity. And I think. the big question for all of us is what. does this new world order look like? That's our analytical question. That's. our job in the next few months. And I. think for politicians it is to work out. what they need to do to make sure that. it is the most prosperous and peaceful. order and that we don't slip into some. kind of might is right more dangerous.

world where war becomes much more. likely. It's a big challenge, but I. think we have to stop looking back and. mourning the old and look forward and. build the new.