After Venezuela, which country could Trump target next?
Give me a sort of ranked order of which. countries might be next. Would you would. would would you know would you put Cuba. top of the list or would it be. Colombia's Petro and if so, what kind of. an intervention? I think I actually would put Colombia. you know where Gustavo Petro the. president has clashed repeatedly you. know with President Trump. I put them at. the top of the list. In that case, you. know, Colombia is the biggest producer. of cocaine in the world and there are. gangs producing growing coca leaf. producing cocaine in the territory. So a. strike on those gangs, I think is very.
possible. This wouldn't be a strike on. the regime in the same way it was in. Venezuela but you know he said sounds. good to me I believe Trump about that. possibility. Cuba sounds like they're. thinking more of a kind of slow. strangulation cutting off you know the. oil that they were getting from. Venezuela and hoping that the regime. implodes. I think we also need to have. Mexico on the list. You know Trump has. spoken often in a similar way to. Colombia about hitting Mexico about. hitting the cartels there. So that's a. real possibility. The reason I think. it's less likely than Colombia is that.
Mexico handles Trump better than. Colombia does and that may give them a. bit more room to sort of delay strikes. like that. It's completely extraordinary. that we're having this conversation this. way. >> Yeah and it's going to get more. extraordinary because one of the. reported reasons that Trump did this now. pulled the trigger on this is because. Maduro has been dancing on TikTok. basically saying come and get me Donald. Trump you can't get me. He's been being. kind of weird and whimsical in an. attempt to say that he's not hassled by. the fact that the world's most powerful. aircraft carrier is at his doorstep and.
that that is reportedly one of the. reasons Trump went for him and Petro is. is much more like that than anyone else. The Cubans they keep their heads down. The Cubans are not out there dancing on. TikTok saying Donald Trump this Donald. Trump that. So I I'm with Kinley I think Colombia is. very very likely to be next on the list. >> So the one the one place that we haven't. mentioned very much yet is Greenland. which he again mentioned last night. Let's just hear the president's talking. about Greenland. We need Greenland.
from a national security strategic. situation. It's so strategic. Right now. Greenland is covered with Russian and. Chinese ships all over the place. We. need Greenland from the standpoint of. national security and Denmark is not. going to be able to do it I can tell. you. So Shashank, we need Greenland from a. national security standpoint. How. seriously should we take that? What. would it mean in practice and what would. it mean for NATO? Well, let me put it. this way. The Danes who of course.
Greenland is a Danish territory put out. a statement the Prime Minister Mette. Frederiksen who weirdly you know 18. months ago was being interviewed by Joe. Biden for the job of NATO Secretary. General suddenly finding herself issuing. statements saying you cannot annex the. Kingdom of you know territories of the. Kingdom of Greenland. We're a historic. ally. Just they are really rattled and I. think rightly so because this is a. long-standing fixation. Now Greenland. doesn't have that combination of. ideological antipathy.
of you know the counter-narcotics angle. the oil angle but of course what it does. have is two things. One of them is. resources critical minerals. and of course we know from Russia. discussions we know from how your. discussion of Venezuelan oil the reality. of of availability of resources and what. Trump thinks are two different things. and the other thing Greenland has is it. has US bases on its soil. In that. respect it's a bit more like Panama in. 1989. My concern is not so much a US. assault on Greenland you know a Tom. Clancy novel. My concern is the US wakes.
up one day and simply declares its. facilities in Greenland to be a. sovereign US base area henceforth. It's. a legal fait accompli knowing the. Europeans aren't going to come and get. it. That is what really concerns me and. clearly Europeans see this as a serious. problem. And how much are the people. that you talked to in the military. establishment and the security. establishment in Europe concerned about. this? How actively are people now 72. after this weekend considering this. possibility?
>> just this weekend. So Danish. intelligence services also quite good by. the way. Bust a US influence operation to work. with American intelligence operation. working with influencers in in in. Greenland. So covert networks of. influence. Danish intelligence has been. really on this. They have been seriously. concerned. Now of course the awkward. thing is for a country where we're. talking in the UK, UK intelligence is. very close to US intelligence. The UK. does not spy on America and suddenly we. live in a world where countries like. France that do spy on America or Germany.
for that matter which we've just learned. was spying on Obama's phone calls from. Air Force One. I think they're at a real. advantage and have real assets here. because suddenly you really must know. what's going on in the NSC to understand. threats to Europe. It's not just. penetrating Vladimir Putin's inner. circle.
