Dr Joe Dispenza: You MUST Do This Before 10am!

Our research shows that your thoughts. can make you sick. The question is if. your thoughts can make you sick, can. your thoughts make you well? That's. absolutely possible and it's easy to. learn. So, when you wake up in the. morning Dr. Joe Dispenza Researcher and. best-selling author One of the most. sought-after speakers in the world. All with the aim of helping people. better understand and unlock the power. of their mind. I'm concerned about human species. Why? 75 to 90% of every person that goes to a. healthcare facility goes because of. psychological or emotional stress and it.

gets addictive to people. They need the. bad relationship, the bad job in order. to feel and there's so much research to. show that when they analyze their life. within some disturbing emotion, we saw. that they were actually making the brain. worse. But 50% of that story isn't even. the truth. People are reliving a. miserable life they never even had just. to excuse themselves from changing. You. can't wait for your wealth to feel. success. You can't wait for your new. relationship to feel love. But 95% of. who we are by the age of 35 is. programmed. Yeah, but there is a way to.

change. And so the model of change is. breaking the habit of the old self and. reinventing a new self. And if you teach. people how to do that, in 7 days you can. see very significant changes. So, try. this out as an experiment. First thing. you have to do is. Dr. Joe, you're someone that's. constantly doing research and developing. new ideas about where humans are and the. way the universe is. What are the. beliefs in your head that you're too. scared to share? Oh boy, I have I have a. very strong belief that. Before this episode starts, I have a. small favor to ask from you. 2 months.

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95% of who we are by the age of 35 is. programmed. When I read that in your work, kind of. hit me like a. ton of bricks because I just turned 30. And if what you're saying there is true, without realizing it, there's a puppet. master that sits above me that's calling. the shots in a way that I don't think. I've realized. Is that true? I think if we define a habit is a.

redundant set of automatic unconscious. thoughts, behaviors, and emotions that's. acquired through repetition. A habit is. when you've done something so many times. that your body now knows how to do it. better than your conscious mind. Then it's programmed subconsciously. So, then when the body knows how to do. it better than the conscious mind, then. for the most part, the greatest habit we. have to break is the habit of being. ourselves, right? So, there's a. principle in neuroscience that says that. nerve cells that fire together wire.

together. If you keep thinking the same way, uh. if you keep making the same choices, if. you keep doing the same things, if you. keep reproducing the same experiences. and feeling the same emotions, your biology begins to become hardwired. in a sense. It. it becomes programmed. So, in order to change uh something, to. arrive at a new vision of your future, if you were wanted to arrive at a new. goal or new vision of your future,

you'd have to change something about. yourself in order to get there. And you'd have to change the way you. think, the way you act, and the way you. feel. When you begin to become conscious. of those unconscious thoughts, so. conscious that you don't let them slip. by your awareness unnoticed or unchecked. by you. If you catch yourself speaking in a. limited way or. um you're you become conscious that. you're behaving in a certain way, in a. habit, and if you can notice or pay attention.

to how you're feeling, then you're no. longer the program. Now your. consciousness observing the program. You're only unconscious when you're in. the program and so to change then. is to become so conscious that you don't. don't go unconscious again. And in a. sense, that is consciousness that is. really the puppet master that really. decides who we want to be. I think the biggest problem. uh is that people lose their free will. uh to a set of programs. And so their.

body is basically um programmed into a. predictable future based on what they've. done in the past. So, to change then, to. change that habituation takes an. enormous amount of energy. and an enormous amount of awareness. Why is this. operating system, this program, useful? Cuz I look at everything that I. the way that I do and from doing this. podcast and speaking to experts, I've. stopped thinking that my body is against. me. And I've stopped realize I've. started to realize that there's a reason. for these things. There's a reason for.

the habits and patterns and. So, why is this useful? Because it seems. to be working against me in so many. ways. Well, um first of all, um. when we. when we look closely at uh certain. habits, whether you um. can ride a bicycle, whether you can speak a language, whether you can snowboard, when you. first learn any of those things, it. takes an enormous amount of conscious. awareness to get your body to do what.

your mind is intending. But if you keep doing it over and over. again, then the body begins to economize. it in some way. And so, we have a lot of. things that we can do automatically. or unconsciously or subconsciously that. allows us to multitask, to drive your. car, to talk on the phone, to do several. different things at the same time. So, a. habit isn't a bad thing. They can work. for you or they can work against you. The problem is is if you're.

as an example, complaining. and blaming and making excuses and. feeling sorry for yourself and judging. other people and you practice that and. you get really good at whatever you. practice. You practice that enough times that. you're unconscious to the fact that. you're doing it. Um. the moment you become conscious that you. want to change that, uh you're going to. be uncomfortable. Uh it's going to feel unfamiliar. It's. going to feel some degree of. uncertainty. You're leaving kind of familiar known.

territory and you're stepping into the. unknown. And so, uh many people when. they want to change a habit, um. they have to be willing to be. uncomfortable to do it. But habits can. work for us. There's a lot of great. habits that you and I both have that I. would never want to change. uh or would want to evolve in some way. But then there's a lot of habits that. don't serve us and and so, a person. really wants to set a vision of the. future, whatever that is, and they just. have to agree that in order to arrive at. that vision, they have to change in.

order to get there. Someone said to me that there's a. certain type of behavior pattern that we. can't change. They said when we get. trauma under the age of 10, things that. happen at a very early age, some of. those things cannot be changed. And then. there's things that happen later in life. that can be rewired and changed. Is that true? Are there some traumas, behavior patterns that just appear to be. too stubborn and too resistant to. change? If you ask me that question just a few. years ago, I probably would have a.

different answer than I do today because. if you look at a lot of the work uh. that we're studying in terms of human. change and human transformation, um. we've seen people with really difficult. pasts, really brutal pasts that. were abused and traumatized at a very. early age um and then. repeated traumas that took place in. people's lives. and they had night terrors and uh.

they couldn't be in relationships. They. had social anxiety. Uh they had a lot of. health conditions. We've seen them completely change. Uh. completely changed to be happy people. again, to. to free themselves from the past. And. so, I would never put a limitation. on change because I just don't think uh. you can really predict that. I think. many people that are learning how to. change, uh they understand what they're.

doing and why they're doing it. And the how gets easier. I think. for the most part, people can change all. kinds of things. And when they do. change, uh our research shows that their brain. changes, their heart rate changes, their. gene expression changes, there's. thousands of metabolites that are being. released into their. bloodstream that weren't there prior. Uh. there's a host of different changes that. take place biologically that kind of. support the person's transformation.

Is there a specific transformation. that sticks in your mind. as being the most as the clearest. evidence that you should never write off. um someone's ability to transform? Wow. Um. I'm so pleased to tell you that uh my. beliefs have been challenged. uh just in the last 2 years in. witnessing. so many different changes in people's. health that I I never knew was even.

possible. Uh. you know, everything from. stage four cancers that were. in a very progressed state that. metastasized to. organs and tissues and bones in the. body, a complete reversal. in uh that. in that health condition. Not once, not. twice, not three times. Uh we've seen it many times. Uh we've seen people that were blind, uh. that have been deaf, that.

that have ALS, that have lupus, that. have MS, that have Parkinson's disease, that have spinal cord injuries, that. have strokes, PTSD, myasthenia gravis, cystic fibrosis, muscular dystrophy. Uh, we had a woman that had her thyroid. removed, surgically removed, and I know. this is difficult even for me to accept. Uh, and grew a new thyroid back. You. know, we have the medical evidence for.

that. So, I don't know any longer what. the limit is. I think there's something. really cool happening in the world when. uh, people believe in themselves. And when you believe in yourself, you. have to believe in possibility. When you believe in possibility, you. have to believe in yourself. So, uh, when somebody. uh, has the opportunity, and I think a. story. is. uh, and there's no there's everybody. loves a story. There's nothing better.

than a story, and. when someone stands on a stage in front. of 2,000 people. and talks about their. um, journey to heal themselves from a. chronic health condition, and they it's not. um, always pretty. They lose things. They lose family. They sometimes lose. their careers. They get sick before they. get better. And And you see this. person's persistence, and you see that. they were not doing the work, uh, their.

inward work to heal. They were doing the. work to change. And if they understood, if they truly. changed that their biology should. change, and they were. um, uncompromising every day in showing. up for themselves and staying conscious. of their unconscious self, and and then. reprogrammed themselves in some way. When they tell that story, it's the. four-minute mile. It's somebody breaking. through a level of consciousness or. unconsciousness in the collective.

that's observing. the example of truth. They're actually relating with that. person. in a way that causes them to examine. possibility differently. And when you become conscious of a new. possibility, a change in consciousness. is a change in awareness, right? So, now. it's in the collective, and lo and. behold, it's not uncommon. We just had. this happen. in our week-long event in Denver just a. little over a week ago, 2 weeks ago.

And we had six people stand up out of a. wheelchair at by the end of the event. Now, I wasn't expecting that, but one. uh, person that had MS in the middle of the. week had a very profound experience, very profound experience. And a professional athlete, NFL football. player, and um, stood up, and he stood up for the. audience. And. when he stood up, he said, "I thought I. was going to a yoga retreat. I thought.

my brother was taking me to a yoga. retreat. I had no idea what we were. doing here.". And then he said, "I just I just never. loved myself.". And it was his act of change that. somehow. changed his health condition. He somehow. up-regulated. genes in different ways, suppressed the. genes for MS, and somehow he was more. mobile, he was walking. by the end of the event, and he was the. magic number one. And when everybody saw.

that, and they crowd the audience was. excited, we started seeing other people. have a similar experience. Now, that. possibility is becoming more of a. reality for people. So, I would always I never limit what. could actually happen, but I can tell. you that what an amazing time right now. uh, to witness people really doing the. uncommon. When you recited that story, I could see. the emotion in your face as you say it. And I can only imagine with the.

information that you have and the. beliefs you have about healing, change, transformation, the sense of urgency you must carry, and. the sense of like responsibility almost, I guess you must carry. Knowing knowing what's possible. Yeah, well, um, um, it I I do feel responsible for always. keeping the information based in science. and as pure as possible. I feel it's really important to do the. research that we're doing. I mean, we've. we've studied so much from a scientific.

standpoint the process of change and the. process of transformation and what. meditation actually. can do for a person in terms of their. biology and and some of the changes that. we're seeing just in 7 days. Um, my. responsibility really is to give people. my greatest understanding of the truth. and numerous opportunities to experience. it, nothing more. You know, there's a. way to inspire people into possibility. And so, they we combine different models.

of science, whether it's quantum physics. or neuroscience or neuroendocrinology or. psychoneuroimmunology, the mind-body. connection, epigenetics, electromagnetism, all of these sciences allow people to. understand themselves better. And if. knowledge is power, knowledge about. yourself is self-empowerment, and you. can empower people to do something with. it. So, the more you understand what you're. doing in the process of change, the more. you understand why you're doing it, as I.

said, the how gets easier. So, we now know that if you give people. sound scientific information, and that. is the contemporary language of. mysticism, and they can learn that information, they're basically making new circuits in. their brain. That's what learning is. Learning is forging new synaptic. connections. But if you don't review. what you learn, if you don't repeat it, it's so much easier to forget it than to. remember it. So, you got to repeat it. over and over again. So, we allow people in our workshops to then. begin to turn and teach it back to.

somebody. They have to really explain. it. If they can't explain it, it's not. wired in their brain, and they're going. to. something's going to be left to. conjecture, to superstition, to dogma, to spirituality, and and that's not. that's not the result we want. We want. them to use science as that model, and. if they can explain that model and. remind themselves what they've learned, reproduce the same level of mind, nerve. cells that fire together wire together. So, they begin to install the. neurological hardware in their brain.

by teaching others. Yeah, exactly. So, that they are prepared for an. experience. So then, if that information is. installed in their brain, that. philosophy, that theory, uh, that knowledge and information, and. now they can remember it, and they have. that model of understanding, and they understand what they're doing. and why they're doing it. If we can set. up the conditions in the environment and. give them the proper instruction, if they can get their behaviors to match. their intentions, they get their actions equal to their.

thoughts. If they can get their mind and. body working together, they're going to have a new experience. Now, experience enriches circuitry in. the brain. That's what experiences does. The moment those neurons begin to string. in the place, though, another part of. the brain makes a chemical, and that. chemical is called a feeling or an. emotion. And the moment you feel. unlimited, the moment you feel grateful, the moment you feel empowered, the. moment you feel whole, now you're teaching your body chemically. to understand what your mind has.

intellectually understood. The. information is just not in the brain. now. The information now is literally in. the body. And now you're embodying the. truth. of that knowledge, of that philosophy, of that theory. So then, you're teaching your body and. and instructing your body chemically to. understand what your mind has. intellectually understood. Okay? So. then, that information that's coming as. a new experience is changing your. biology in some way, and we've actually. shown this. So then, if you've done it once,

then it means you should be able to do. it again. And the idea is to be able to repeat an. experience. And if you can repeat it. over and over again, both neurologically. and chemically, neurochemically, you can. condition your mind and body to begin to. work as one. And when you can do it so. many times that your body now knows how. to do it better than your conscious. mind, it's innate in you. So, I want to. map out this process so that I make sure. I understand it. Starts with the neurology, which I I I I heard is uh,

a thought which you then ingrain in your. mind by teaching it to someone else. Is. that accurate? Well, first thing you have to do is you. got to give people information. Yeah, interesting. And science is probably the closest to. the truth in terms of information. And so, when your brain is exposed to. information and you're present and. you're paying attention, that neurons. begin to connect. That's what learning. is. Learning is forging new synaptic. connections. The Nobel Prize research, Kandel in the.

year 2000, his the researcher said that. if you learned one bit of information. and you paid attention that information. for about an hour, he would double the number of. connections in your brain as a result of. your interaction with that information. But if you don't review it, if you don't. repeat it, if you don't think about it, the circuits prune apart, right? So, if. learning is making new synaptic. connections, then remembering is. maintaining and sustaining them. So, it's so much easier to forget this. information than to remember it. So, you.

learn it. Once I got a person's head. nodding, then they turn the person next. to them and say, "Let me try this out. Let me try this out. Let me see if I can. repeat it." And so, between the two of. them, they exchange that information, and they start to build the model of. understanding. "Ah, I understand. I got. that. Okay." Then we advance the. information a bit more, and they they're. adding new stitches into the. three-dimensional tapestry of their gray. matter, and they have to remind. themselves what they've learned, reproduce that same level of mind. Mind. is the brain in action. As you install those neurological.

circuits in your brain then, now you're. prepared. It's the forerunner to the experience. You're prepared for the experience. So, give the proper instruction, get your. body involved, get involved in the. process. The experience then causes the circuits. to become more enriched. That's what. experience does. And then it makes a chemical, and that. chemical's called a feeling or an. emotion. And the stronger the emotion. you feel from the experience, the more. you remember it. And what is that. experience? What can. Abundance, health, wholeness, a mystical. experience, success, a new relationship,

a new career. Um. a new life. Whatever the person's Whatever Whatever. that vision. that person wants to arrive at in the. future. And to actually go from the thought of. that vision to the actual experience of. it. And the distance between that. thought and that experience is called. time. So, if we can teach people to shorten. the distance between the thought of what. they want and the experience of having. it, um then they they start believing more.

that they're the creator of their life. What would you say to somebody that. doesn't think thoughts matter that much? I would say 95%. of the world plus, or maybe more, 99% of. the world plus, sees thoughts as. something that we are. you know, it's my head talking. It's me talking in my head. And as long as I don't act on those. thoughts, they're inconsequential. I would I would say then that's their. truth. Is it their truth? I don't know. But for me, my thoughts do matter. I.

think every thought that you have makes. a chemical. And you can have thoughts that make you. feel good and thoughts that make you. feel bad. And and I think that if 90%. of the thoughts that we think are the. same thoughts as the day before, the same thoughts lead to the same. choices. The same choices lead to the. same behaviors, the same behaviors will. create the same experiences. And the same experiences produce the. very same emotions, and those same. emotions influence a person's very same. thoughts and their biology, their.

neuro-circuitry, their neurochemistry, their hormones, and even their gene. expression stays the same because. they're staying the same. There's. nothing wrong with that. But I do think that if you think. differently and you learn new. information and you have new thoughts, if you can make new choices and. demonstrate new behaviors and create new. experiences and arrive at new goals and. feel new emotions, I would say that's. evolution. And I think that people really really. secretly believe in themselves on some. level. And and I think.

being defined by a vision of the future. or really always always dreaming of. another great experience, I think is a great reason to wake up in. the morning. I've had lots of conversations with very. smart people on this podcast from. multiple disciplines, you know, psychiatrists, psychologists, athletes, health practitioners. And they've given. me such great advice on, which is. irrefutable scientific advice from so. many areas of my life. And for some. reason, there's still areas of my life. that I still can't act upon that advice. And I think probably for most of my.

listeners who've had great advice on. this podcast, and they think, yes, that's who I want to be. I have an. intention to stop eating sugar at 1:00. 1:00 a.m. at night, or I have an. intention to become organized or to be. this kind of friend or partner. They have the information. Right. What There's something stood in the way. of me doing something about that. information on a regular basis. Yeah. Well, I can give you a few answers for. that. Unfortunately, it normally takes a crisis, Yeah. trauma, disease, diagnosis, betrayal,

loss. A person has to reach that lowest. denominator. where nothing's making that feeling go. away. Has to. Well, not they don't have. to, but this is human This is the human. condition. This is the moment where they. don't feel like returning the texts. They don't feel like going to dinner and. seeing the same people. They don't feel. like um. watching the same television show any. longer. The sports car, the wardrobe, the None of that is making this feeling.

go away. This is. a moment of reckoning for the soul. And this is really when you could. actually see yourself. through the eyes of someone else cuz you. don't feel like yourself anymore. And. that's the moment where people begin to. change. They can see how they've been. thinking. They can notice how they've. been acting. They can pay attention or. become aware of how they've been feeling. for the last 20 years. And that that idea in in neuroscience is. called metacognition. That's the moment.

you're no longer the program. Now, what we believe and what we've seen and. what I think is much better approach is. um being defined by a vision of the. future. And if you understood. that you could actually elevate your. state without anyone or anything every. single day, and hold whatever that intention of your. future is. And it takes a coherent brain. to do that. And feel the emotion of your future.

before it happens. That is, you know, you can't wait for. your wealth to feel success. You can't. or abundance. You can't wait for your. new relationship to feel love. You can't. wait for the mystical experience to feel. whole or your healing to feel whole or. grateful. That's kind of. the old model of reality of cause and. effect, waiting for something out there. to change, to take away this emptiness, this lack that I feel in here. If you teach people then they could. elevate their state, and we teach that. model through meditation.

And they can combine that clear. intention with an elevated emotion and. teach them how to make that heart of. theirs more coherent. If they do that properly then, they'll. live their life feeling like. their future has already happened. Now, from that elevated state, instead of. that self-limited state, they can become. as conscious. of that unconscious self as they could. if they were at that limited state. And. and being defined by that vision of the.

future, getting up every day inspired by it, and. not letting any person, any. circumstance, anything in our life. remove us from that vision, that would. be a day well lived. So then, most people then they have that vision. of the future, but they give up on that vision because. in order for them to arrive at that. vision, they have to do something. They. have to think differently. They have to. act differently. They have to feel. differently. And it's so much easier to make the same. choice every single day. And the hardest.

part. about change is not making the same. choice as you did the day before. And the moment you decide to make a. different choice, you're going to feel uncomfortable cuz. you're stepping from the known into the. unknown. So, some people would rather cling to. their self-pity. than take a chance and possibility. They'd rather tell the story of their. past. instead of telling the story of their. future. They'd rather believe in their. past instead of believe in their future.

Uh it's so much more important though to. romance your future instead of romance. your past. And I think if people. understood that they could actually. arrive at it. I think many people have done this. already in their life. I think everybody. at least once in their life has done. something great. And when they. did something great, they just made up. their mind. And they made a decision in that moment. to do something or to change with such. firm intention.

that the amplitude of energy in making. that choice. caused their body to respond to their. mind. That the choice that they were making to. change became a moment in time that they. would never forget. And the stronger the emotion they felt. in order to change, the more they. remembered the choice. And we could say then that they're. giving their body a taste. of the future emotionally. And they're. literally aligning to that destiny. We discovered that if you keep doing. that every day,

somehow you arrive at that destiny, and. your biology will literally begin to. change to look like you're living in a. different life. What are some of the biggest myths. relating to. behavior change and. I guess character and personality. change, um. that hold people back? Our probably belief. I think in so many ways that a belief is. a. unconscious process. A belief is a. thought you keep thinking over and over.

again. until it's hardwired in your brain. And most beliefs are based on past. experiences. And so, many people have a belief about. something that has to change. in order for them to arrive at a new. place in their life. And what we discovered a lot of times. with people in this work is that. they they. when they Say for example, they were. healing themselves of a health. condition.

Sometimes they would. do their meditations three times in one. day. And I asked them, "Why three. times?" And they said, "Because I. stopped believing. Uh and when I caught myself no longer. believing in it, I had to sit down and. change my belief again.". In other words, they had to get up. believing more in their future instead. of believing less in it. And they have. to change their state of being to do. that. So, I think that. that's a limitation. I also think that. unconsciously we're always waiting for.

something out there in our life to. change so that we can change or feel the. relief of the lack of what we don't. have. And I do think that's kind of a limited. model of reality. I think when you start. changing inside of you and you start. seeing the changes happening outside of. you, you go from being a victim in your. life to being a creator of your life. And And I think that when that occurs, then all of a sudden it's no longer a. have to. It's something that you want to do. You. don't You actually don't want the magic. to end in your life. So now you become a.

work in progress by investing in. yourself. And when you invest in yourself, you. invest in your future. So there is. probably a chronic disbelief. that many of us have that we're not. creators of our life. Uh And the only. when we get the parking space or. something good happens to us, do we. believe that we're the creator of our. life? But imagine a world where. everybody actually took responsibility. in being the creator of their life and.

no longer the victim of their life. I. think we would see a dramatic shift in. consciousness. That makes people feel. uncomfortable. This idea of personal. responsibility. It's quite a It's almost. become quite a controversial. controversial idea. The idea that we are the creator of our. lives because then I have to accept. responsibility for all the bad things. that happened. Dave dumped me. I got. fired from work. Uh someone bumped into my car and it. hurt my neck. Well, maybe maybe that happened by. default. Maybe that happened by not creating.

Maybe you were just left to the. randomness. of reality that. that maybe you're not creating. And the fact that you're not creating, you're you're left to the effects of. your environment actually controlling. you, controlling your feelings and. thoughts. And By creating, what do you. mean by creating? Is it Well, well, if. you. If you woke up every morning and you. truly made time to think like this, okay.

If my personality creates my personal. reality, and my personality is made of how I. think, how I act, and how I feel. If I want to create a new personal. reality, a new life, I'm going to have to change my. personality. And most people try to. create a new reality, a new personal. reality, as the same personality, and it. doesn't work. We literally have to. become someone else. So if you said, okay, let me not default. and go unconscious to that 95% of who I.

am that's programmed. Let me become so. conscious of the way I think. Let me. become so aware of how I'm going to act. today. Let me decide what emotions keep. me connected to my past and bring me to. a lower level of lower level of energy. Let me not. go unconscious. And then if you said, okay, if a belief is just a thought I keep. thinking over and over again, what. thoughts do I want to fire and wire in. my brain? And with attention and with. intention.

to begin to familiarize yourself with a. new way of thinking. Meditation means to. become familiar with. If you keep firing and wiring those. circuits, you're going to begin to. install the hardware. Repeat it enough. times and it becomes a software program. That could be the new voice in your head. that says, "I can. It is possible.". If you said, okay, when did I fall from grace yesterday? When did I When did I lose it? Oh my. gosh, it was with at work, with my. co-workers, with my ex, with my enemy,

with the news, with traffic. Acting this way is not going to make me. happy. If I had another opportunity, another. opportunity, how would I do it? If you could close your eyes and. rehearse in your mind mentally how you. were going to behave in certain. situations, I'll give you a specific one. Anyone. So I'll give you the specific. one where. late late at night, on occasion, I've. eaten things that I really regret. eating. Al- Also, another one that I'm.

I'm trying to work hard on is I can be. very messy. with when I travel. So my my hotel room. can look like a mess, and I don't like. that about myself. And I don't know why. I do it, but it's almost like you talk. about being unconscious. I'm clearly not. thinking about it. But that's part of. the problem. And it's the same with the. bloody sugar at midnight. Eating ordering things that are. and then feeling instant guilt 10. seconds after I've put it in my mouth. Well, that Well, it may be that on some level.

Well, you could actually be addicted to. the guilt and not to the sugar. And so you you return to the same. emotional state. that allows that action to reoccur. So. if you said, let me decide. how I am going to act, what I'm not. going to do, and you rehearsed it, the. research on mental rehearsal says your. brain will look like you already did it. That you'll be so present, the brain.

won't know the difference between what. you're imagining and what is real. The. brain will begin to change to look like. the experience has already happened. Now, you're priming your brain for that. behavior. Keep rehearsing it. Rehearsing. it how? So give me Well, So I play. Mentally Mentally rehearsing Mental. rehearsal is one of these great ideas in. neuroscience where you can actually. install circuits in your brain, right? So everybody has done this. Musicians do it. They're playing a song. in their mind all the time. Athletes do. it. They're always going over their.

moves. Uh dancers do it. Actors do it. Uh so many people rehearse mentally what. they're about to do. And when they do. that, they actually prime their brain. They actually can change their brain. and change their body just by thought. alone. Physiologically changes. Physiologically change. You can take a. group of people. that never played the piano before. and divide them into two different. groups and do functional brain scans on. both groups. One group, they'll come for 2 hours a day for 5.

days and they'll practice these. one-handed scales and chords. Now, you. learn something new, you make new. connections in your brain. You get some. instruction, you get your body involved. When you get your body involved, you're. going to have an experience. You pay. attention to what you're doing and you. repeat it over and over again. Nerve. cells that fire together wire together. You're going to begin to install new. circuits in the opposite side of your. brain. That's That's common. You do the scan at the end, you see. those actual physical changes. You take. those people the other group and you ask. them to close their eyes without lifting.

a finger. Have them mentally rehearse those scales. and chords, and at the end of 5 days, they grow the same amount of circuits in. their brain as the people who actually. physically demonstrated the act. In. other words, they were so present with. what they were doing, the brain did not. know the difference between the real. life experience and what they were. imagining. The brain was physically. changing to look like they already. experienced it. They already did it. So now, you take those people. never played the piano before, they've. just been mentally rehearsing for 2.

hours a day for 5 days. You set them in. front of a piano, and they could. actually play those scales and chords. Why? Cuz they primed their brain for. that behavior. So then if you're going to prime your. brain for a new behavior, whether you're. the CEO of a company, whether you're a parent, uh whether you're learning something, the more you rehearse it mentally, the. more you prime your brain and body for. the act. So you could actually practice. rehearsing how you're going to change in. your life. And if you keep doing it.

enough times, your behaviors will match. your intentions automatically because. you have the mind installed to do it. If. you don't have the mind installed to do. it, you'll go back to the same past. behavior. So I play through that. scenario of making the decision. differently. Exactly. And rehearse it in. your mind until it feels right. Do you. feel like I could actually do that? And. go from start to finish without losing. your attention. And so that it gets easier each time you. do it. It makes sense then you're you'll. you'll actually do it. And then then if. you said, okay,

enough of this guilt. I've I've felt enough of it. I don't. like feeling that way. I could actually. break the conditioning of that emotion. in my body. Can I. condition my body? Can I teach my body. to feel something differently? What. would be the feeling that I want to feel. if I was able to do it? Would it be. worth? Would it be self-love? Would it. be freedom? Would it be joy? Let me. teach my body emotionally. what a future could actually feel like.

before it happens. If you keep doing it over and over. again, you're going to start making more. of those chemicals, and it's become. easier for you to do it. It's going to. become familiar to you. And that's. exactly what meditation is, to become. familiar with an old self, to know. thyself. Become so conscious of that. unconscious self that you don't go. unconscious to that self. And how many. times do we have to forget. until we stop forgetting and start. remembering? That's the moment of. change. What thoughts do I want to fire and wire. in my brain? Let me become familiar with. those. What behaviors do I want to.

demonstrate? What would greatness do? What would love do? And actually rehearse a greater a. greater way. Rehearse it enough times so. that you could actually step into that. footprint. Teach your body emotionally. that there's another way to feel and do. it over and over again. It'll become. familiar to you. And so the model of. change is unlearning and relearning. It's breaking the habit of the old self. and reinventing a new self. It's pruning. synaptic connections and sprouting new. connections. It's unfiring and unwiring, refiring and rewiring, deprogramming and.

reprogramming, losing your mind and. creating a new one, unmemorizing. emotions that have been stored in the. body and then reconditioning the body to. a new mind, to a new emotion. Turns out. if you teach people how to do that, in 7 days you can see very profound. biological changes if they immerse. themselves into the experience. And what. do these biological changes look like? Well, um so we run week-long events um. around the world. And I think it's so.

important to do events uh in person with. community. Uh because it's a flock. It's a herd. It's a school. Um. it's a collective. And so uh that exact process in 7 days, uh we take people through a very. immersive experience. And we do. functional brain scans or fMRIs or. quantitative EEGs before they start the. event and then we at the end of 7 days. we look at their brains. at the end of 7 days and there are.

dramatic changes. in the way their brain works, very. significant changes. Some of them are really outstanding. changes. We. put teach people how to create more. heart coherence. When you feel anger, when you feel frustration, when you feel. impatience, when you feel resentment, your heart beats out of order. When you. feel gratitude, when you have kindness. and care, when you feel love for life, your heart. beats in more orderly fashion. You can. actually train somebody to get good at. feeling that way and we we use that and.

we see people at the end of 7 days be. able to regulate their heart much better. and it's a function of really how soon. or how slow we age. We take a blood and we measure 2,882. different metabolites in in a person's. blood. And at the end of 7 days we measure. again and. I can tell you that if you're a novice. meditator, really never meditated before, kind of. your first event, and you go through that 7-day process,

at the end of 7 days, there's so many. biological changes that are taking place. in the. collective, in the community, not just. one, not just to the majority of people. and I mean a significant majority of. people. suggesting that their body literally is. living in a new environment and in a new. life. And there are chemicals. in their bloodstream in terms of. information. that wasn't there prior to the event. In. other words, some way without taking any drug,

without any taking any exogenous. substance, um, without changing their diet, without. changing their lifestyle in any other. way except going through this process, eating the same foods that they. typically eat, that at the end of 7 days there's. chemistry, there's biology that suggests. that somehow their biology is changing. significantly. Um, we measure gene expression. Uh, I can tell you that you can change. your gene expression in 7 days. Um, we measure microbiome and um, once.

again, 7 days there are dramatic changes. in the microbiome uh, and the mind. somehow is making significant and and. effective changes in our in our body. So, um, our research is pretty. outstanding because. um, a 7-day. uh, intervention uh, that's producing these effects. Uh, there's there's not a whole lot of drugs. that that are as effective. And we've discovered that.

the nervous system makes a pharmacy of. chemicals right now that works better. than any drug. That's what we've. discovered and it's all within you. I am a fixer. in my friendship groups. And what I mean. by that is I'm someone who probably. over-involves them themselves in trying. to help friends change stuff. Which. gift and a curse. Often times a curse. But um, I often get because I love. someone and they're close to me and I. want the best for them,

when when I see that they are. experiencing a recurring pattern of. behavior or habit um, that is causing. them unhappiness, loneliness, to miss. the goals they have in their life of. becoming a, you know, a husband or a. wife or a partner, whatever it might be, I have a growing sense of um, frustration. Cuz and I and then that sometimes exerts. it it's. that sometimes manifests itself as. trying to, you know, fix and help and. give advice and change them. You must. experience. that in a different way. You're much.

smarter than me. You must experience. that in a different way when you meet. people that you can see are having these. recurring patterns of behavior. And when you see that in them, has there any has there any ever been. frustration on your part? Have you ever. been frustrated that change hasn't. happened in someone that you loved? God, you know, I think it's I think it's such. a noble act to change and I and I. understand how hard it is to change. Uh, I understand that process. So, I think the greatest thing that I could.

ever do for someone is to show them what. change looks like. It's so much more. profound than anything that I could ever. say. Um, and I would never offer my opinion to. them. I would love them unconditionally. because I would maybe see a part of. myself. uh, that I've changed and I understand. how hard it is to change or or I. understand that they'll they're going to. have their moment uh, when they're ready. to change. And so I think it's I think. it's really interesting because what.

I've learned over the years is that no. new information. can enter the nervous system that's not. equal to the person's emotional state. You can give them. the answer, the right answer to the. problem and they won't hear it cuz it's. not relevant equal to the emotion that. they're experiencing. What we've learned is that. you take people and just say 7 days, just cross the river of change. Go from. the old self to the new self, immerse. yourself fully into it,

break free from the chains of those. emotions that keep you anchored to the. past, overcome those habits and. behaviors that keep you programmed into. a predictable future, um, overcome um, all those aspects of your beliefs that. keep you stuck in a certain state in. terms of how you're thinking and those. hardwired perceptions. 7 days, break free and and normally the. person has the answer. uh, to their own question. I think. that's when it becomes really relevant, when you have your own insight, your own.

epiphany, when it's your own truth cuz. you've you've worked to get beyond it. People when they analyze themselves or. analyze their life within some. disturbing emotion, when we looked at. the real-time brain scans, we saw that. they were actually making their brain. worse. They were driving their brain further. out of balance, overthinking, over-analyzing. Uh, and so, when you analyze something within an. emotion, an emotion is a is a record of. the past. So, you're thinking in the.

past, the solution could never be there. Free the person from that emotion and of. course they they see they they see it. from a greater level of consciousness. For all those people listening right now. that are like me that try and fix. because of through I mean through what. they think of as love, I may maybe be. doing it for other reasons, but. what what could they do to be a better. ally or friend or partner to that. individual? But based on everything. you've said that maybe they need their.

own moment or, you know, their emotional system isn't in. regulation with their information. God, anytime we we're going to do. anybody a great service is to help them. out of their emotional state. I mean, it's not a lecture that's going to help. them. Come on, let's go do something. Come on, let's go. Just get them doing. something, just breaking themselves out. of that state. It's not like the answer, it's they you they have to change their. state to get the answer. So, if I were to do anything, I would want to help them shorten their. emotional reaction to get them get.

beyond the emotion. Whatever that is and. I wouldn't be a lecture, it would be. something fun that we did or something. unusual that we did or just trying. something. Just let's just do something. And I think I think showing people what. what what love looks like, show them. what joy looks like, show them what. happiness looks like. I think I think. people notice that. I think I think they. pay attention to that. It gives them. permission. uh, to do the same. So, um, maybe just show up as um,

the person you would want to be around. if you were feeling that way. When you look at the state of the world. at the moment and the direction of. travel, the trajectory of, you know, technology and the way we're. living our lives and the decisions we're. making at a collective level, what are the things that most concern. you? What I always ask myself is it getting. better or is it getting worse, you know? And I I think um, in my lifetime I don't think I've ever.

experienced the world. as it is today, just with so many. variations of so many things. Uh, and I question the information that I'm. receiving. Uh, and I think that we need some type. of intervention as a species. We need we. we need a change. We need an intervention in some way. You question the information you're. receiving from where and what kind of. interven- intervention are you. suggesting? I just don't know that the.

information that I that I am exposed to. or information that people are exposed. to is the truth. Uh, I just question. that these days. And and there because. you can you can get so many you can get. so many degrees of it and so many. and I and I don't know if it's. uh, based in altruism, you know, for the. for the goodness of human beings or or. for self-interests and I and I think. that's a I think people are waking up. more to the understanding that something. has to change, you know, for us to.

really survive as a species. And what are the symptoms of. the cultural disease that you're talking. about? What are they? A lack of connection. Uh, you know, you know, we're in 3D reality, you know, connecting, communing, cooperating, uh, uh, uh, creating. I think those are things. that um, I think if you keep people in survival. and you keep them in fear and you keep. them at war and you keep them angry and.

you keep them in pain and you keep them. confused and you can control their. attention um, by controlling their emotions. Um. I think I think. we're going to you know. we may not make it you know as as a. species. But I think that when people truly come. together in in in an elevated state, I. think it's collective networks of. observers that determine reality.

And I don't think it's the number of. people. I think it's the most coherent. in heart and brain that begin to produce. effects. So the coming of. a new consciousness has to be a. collective. It's not one person. It's a collective group of people and. and I believe that you get enough people. collectively coming together that we can. hopefully uh. uh steer it in a different direction. Hopefully. Yeah. How about you? Are you optimistic?

I am. I'm optimistic because I think. people by nature. are good. I think there's goodness in human beings. and. I have the privilege of traveling around. the world and I see that and it. transcends countries and cultures and. races and gender. It transcends diet. It. transcends all that stuff. Uh it's just when people are happy with. themselves and in love with life. Um I. think I think their natural tendency is. to give and I think we're wired to do. that when we're not in survival.

When we're not in survival. When you use. this word survival. are you talking about the the fight or. flight state that we um. many of us live in? Yeah. I would say I. would say that living in stress is. living in survival and stress is when. your brain and body are knocked out of. homeostasis. Stress is when your brain and body are. knocked out of balance. The stress. response is what the body innately does. to return itself back to balance. The problem is is that if you keep. turning on that fight or flight system,

you keep turning on that emergency. system. um it will actually cause people to stay. out of balance and that imbalance. becomes the new balance. And they're headed for some type of. disease, some type of breakdown. No. organism can tolerate emergency mode for. an extended period of time and when. you're in survival and that primitive. system is switched on. it's really about the self. Uh when you're in survival, you have to. take care of yourself. So. um the emotions of anger and hostility. and aggression and competition and.

frustration and resentment. and envy and jealousy and insecurity and. fear and anxiety and hopelessness and. powerlessness and depression and pain. and suffering guilt and shame are all. derived. from the hormones of stress and. psychology calls them normal human. states of consciousness. Those are. altered states of consciousness. And. when we're in that state, when we're. living in survival. we experience separation. We we divide. in in in a lot of ways. And so there's biology that goes along.

with that and. that the hormones of stress heighten the. senses and cause us to become. materialists and and now when we're in. lack or separation, we force outcomes. We control outcomes. We fight for. outcomes. We compete for outcomes. We. manipulate outcomes. In a lot of ways we. we turn into a more of a primitive self. So. it's hard. um. to change that especially when you don't. have enough money. or you just lost your job or you just.

ended a relationship or. your best friend passed, uh it's really. hard um to move beyond those emotional. states. Um and so I think that that teaching. people um. how to change those emotional states and. move out of those are really important. and and. um. 75 to 90% of every person that goes to a. healthcare facility in the western world. goes in because of psychological or. emotional stress. That's eight or nine. out of 10.

And and emotional stress and. psychological stress are the ones that. tend to be the most harmful. Because if it's not T-Rex that's chasing. you, but it's your coworker in the next. cubicle, what was once very adaptive. becomes very maladaptive. And and the rush of those adrenal. hormones. become kind of addictive to people. And they use the problems, they use the. conditions in their life to reaffirm. their addiction to that emotion. They. need their enemy to feel hatred. And and.

if their enemy died, they'd they'd still. feel hatred or they'd find another one. Uh they need the bad relationship. They. need the bad job in order to feel and. that's why it's hard to change and. people become addicted to the life they. don't even like. And so if you can turn on the stress. response just by thought alone, by. thinking about your problems, then. that's the truth. you can become addicted to your own. thoughts. And if the long-term effects of the. hormones of stress push the genetic. buttons that create disease your.

thoughts can make you sick. And then the question is if your. thoughts can make you sick, can your. thoughts make you well? And we're. actually discovering that that's. absolutely possible. So then. teaching people then a little bit about. how to manage their emotional state and. to self-regulate I think is a great gift. for people because when they begin to. break an addiction to any emotion or the. conditioning of any emotion, there's. going to be cravings that go on just. like just like any addict there, you. know, and and you've many people.

overdose and many people have bad trips. and. and so when they start changing and the. body's craving uh those familiar. emotions, the body starts signaling the. brain, you know, of memories or to think. certain ways and to make certain. choices, do certain things, crave. certain experiences just to feel that. same emotion. And people say, well. this feels right. No, that feels familiar. That really. feels familiar. And and many people will.

tell the story. of why they feel that way based on some. past experience and it's usually not in. the recent past. It's usually many years. ago. Like a toxic relationship Whatever. that is. And so. they're basically saying I had an event. in my life and since that event I'm. still living by the same emotion and I. haven't been able to change. And they'll tell the story of that past. and in psychology, the latest research. on memory shows that 50% of that story. isn't even the truth.

They're they're they're making it up. because they don't have the same brain. as they had then. And so then people. people are reliving a miserable life. they never even had just to excuse. themselves from changing. And they embellish the stories so that. it sounds really hard to change. So what is it what is that point then. for a person when they say. the only person. that this emotion of hatred or anger. frustration or resentment, the only.

person that this is hurting is me. Because those those chemicals are down. regulating genes and creating disease. and a person finally really realizes. that and they really decide to change. When they overcome the emotion. the memory without the emotion is called. wisdom and that's the name of the game. in three-dimensional reality. Now. they're ready for a new experience. It's not it's not reliving the past. You. don't need to. You don't need to talk. about it. All you need to do is overcome. the emotion. When you overcome the.

emotion, you're free from the past. You can see it from a greater level of. consciousness and that's when a person. so many times in when they truly change, they'll say this. We've seen it over and. over again. They reach that point where they finally. break through and they and some of them. have had some really difficult past. They'll say, I would not want to change. one thing in my past because it brought. me to this moment. That's the moment the. past no longer exists. And they can look. at their betrayers. and see it with all had to happen for.

that moment and now they're they're. free. They they no longer belong to the. past. They belong to the future. I've never heard the concept or idea of. being addicted to a negative emotion. People talk to me about being addicted. to dopamine and pleasure and. sh you know, and all those things and. you know, like masturbation and. sugar and but the thought of being. addicted to a negative emotion is what. you said to me earlier about the guilt. Well, well, think about this. What do people do when they when they. feel an emotion?

What do they do? They rely on something. outside of them. to make that emotion go away. So whether. it's. the masturbation or the pornography or. the gambling or the shopping or the. sugar or the whatever, it's all because. they're trying to make that feeling go. away and they're using something outside. of them. So then. there is some emotion that the person is. regulating. That's why they're doing. that. They're doing that, right? So. so change the emotional state and it.

makes sense then the need to do it. diminishes. Which is not. doesn't seem to be very easy to do. Change my emotional state. Well, again, I think um. if you if you understood. what you were doing and why you were. doing it, just like learning anything, if you if you understood a formula. I think it wouldn't be as hard as you. think it is. I mean because there is a way to change. And step one in that process of change.

is new information. Always. It's the forerunner to any experience. Without the information, we doubt. that it's possible. And again, that the information and the. science removes the doubt. I've I was doing some research recently. about um why people change their beliefs. and why they don't change their beliefs. and some beliefs they're more. susceptible to take on some information. they're more they're susceptible to take.

on. One of the things I read about was. when they believe the source. Yeah. Another thing I read about was when they. when it's good news. So, if in studies. where they say to someone you're more. attractive according to the public than. you believed, they're likely to shift. rather than finding out they're less. attractive. And also things like health, you're more healthy than you thought you. were genetically, they're more likely to. shift a belief. The nature of our. beliefs and the nature of belief change, um. I I was writing in in in my book about. how um. looking in the mirror and telling.

yourself something, like some of the. sort of modern-day manifestation. community belief, doesn't seem to work. Just looking in the mirror and telling. myself that I'm beautiful and rich and. successful and powerful doesn't seem to. be an effective way to cause actual. belief change. Do you agree or disagree with this idea. that you can look in the mirror and say. something to yourself? When when we study belief and the change. in belief, uh I want I'll answer it on two levels, Stephen. The first level is that in.

order for a person to change a belief or. perception about themselves and their. life, majority of those people made a decision. with such firm intention that the. amplitude of that decision carried a. level of energy that was greater than. the hardwired programs in their brain. and the emotional conditioning their. body. As I said earlier, their body. literally responded to their mind. The. choice that they were making. became a moment in time they would never. forget. They'll tell you where they. were, what time of day it was, who they.

were with when they made up their mind. to change. It became a long-term memory. And the stronger the emotion we feel, the more altered we are inside of us, the more we remember that choice. That's why we need pain sometimes. That's when you said when you painted. yourself into a corner and you said, "This is it. I don't care how I feel, body. I don't care how long it takes, time. I. don't care what people think. I don't. care what's going on in my life, environment. I'm going to do this." And. you made up your mind the moment you.

felt that emotion, you were aligning to. a new future and to change. is to be greater than your body, to be. greater than your environment, and to be. greater than time. And so, when a person comes out of their resting. state, because your body is trillions of cells, 70 trillion cells, and they're all. spying on your brain. And if you were sitting there and and. you said, "Nine out of 10 times, I'm. going to fake standing up. One time, I'm. actually going to stand up." Before you. ever made that conscious decision, your.

body is so precognitive, it already. knows when you're going to stand up cuz. it's got to release a certain amount of. adrenaline so the same volume of your. blood goes to your brain. So, if you're sitting on the couch with. the remote control and you got your cell. phone here and your iPad here and your. computer here and your dog here and your. beer here and the big TV there. and you're eating your popcorn and and. you say, "You know, I I think um. I'm going to change tomorrow.". You What do you think your precognitive.

body's going to say? Relax, he's lying. again. He's not He's not willing to He's. not willing to signal the body it's time. to ride, you know, it's not There's no. signal to the body. And so, making that choice to change. your state of being with a clear. intention and elevated emotion actually. changes your state to believe in that. future more than you believe in your. past. Keep it up. Keep doing it. That's. a big explosion in the field. That's. important. That's a change in energy.

And nobody changes until they change. their energy. And when they change their. energy, they change their life. So, then. you make up your mind to do that and all. of a sudden, you have that. synchronicity. You have that. serendipity. You have that coincidence. And all of a sudden, you're saying, "Hey, that worked. Something I did. inside of me produced an effect outside. of me. I'm going to pay attention to. what I did. I'm going to do it again. I'll try it again. Let's the experiment. continue." You do it again and then you. say, "Well, when did I stop. disbelieving? Oh my god, I was stopped. disbelieving when I ran into that. person. We had that conversation and I'm. like, "God,

I returned back to my old belief again. Okay. Next time that happens, that I'm. going to This is what I'll do." And you. rehearse it in. So, your evolution. in your belief in self it changes as. well. So, then. so many people, second point, will. actually say this, "You know, I read the. philosophy. I understand the knowledge. I understand what it means to change. I. understand the power of meditation. I. saw the testimonials. I saw people heal. I believe it's the truth. I just didn't believe it could work for.

me. This is a big moment. This is a. moment where you step out of the. bleachers and you got to get on the. playing field. That's the person who says, "If this. works and I believe it it works, I got. to prove it to myself. I got to actually. I got to actually prove it to myself. that I believe that it could work for. me.". And some of them show up every day for a. year and never miss their work. Never. miss their meditation. A whole year in. changing from the old self to the new. self. They were doing their meditations. to change, not to heal.

They were doing their meditations to. change and when they changed, they. healed. They did their meditations. sometimes three times a day because they. stopped believing. They start. disbelieving and they were like, "I. defaulted. Why? Cuz I'm feeling the. emotion of my past. Some stray thought, some response to someone or something. caused me to feel it and I forgot. I'm. back to the emotion that's familiar and. I can't believe in that future. I'm. believing in my past. Let me sit down. and change my state of being again and. get up believing in my future again.". And sometimes they had to do it.

three times in one day. And when they. understood. that's the environment that signals the. gene, that's epigenetics, and the end product of an experience in. the environment is an emotion and it is, you could actually signal genes ahead of. the environment by changing your. emotional state. They were doing it with. that intention. And when you assign meaning to the act, you get a greater outcome and you turn. on the prefrontal cortex and now your. biology literally begins to change. And. we have data that suggests by just.

having the intention to make certain. genes, to make certain proteins or uh signal. certain genes and make certain proteins. Just having the intention literally. begins to cause the body to make those. chemicals. And what causes relapse in those. moments? Cuz I've had multiple moments of where I. thought behavior change had been. established and I managed to conduct a. new habit cycle and new behavior, favorable and you know, intended. behavior for a period. And then. something happens in my life.

almost subconsciously, seamlessly. Seamlessly, and I'm back Yeah. to all the old circuitry. You went unconscious. You went. unconscious and normally. it's unconscious to some thought. or some response. in your environment. You see someone or. you do something or you have some. interaction in your outer world and the. moment you have that interaction, you. you causes you to feel a certain way and. you return back to to the past,

basically. The the emotion is the past. And that the body is actually living in. the past. It's so objective, it doesn't. know the difference. It doesn't know the difference between. the real-life experience that's creating. that emotion and the emotion that. person's living by every day. It's. believing it's in the same past. experience again. And it will behave in. the past and it will think in the past. Subconsciously. Subconsciously. Seamlessly. So, I could for for example, if going to. I don't know, let's say France. I had a.

traumatic experience in France when I. was 10 years old, let's just say. And. then I go to France when I'm 30 years. old and I get back to I just start. eating junk food, for example. And I don't know why. I've like fallen. out of my gym habit and I'm eating junk. food. That. Theoretically, that could be my. subconscious that. um. falling back into a is experiencing that. survival without me knowing knowing it? Yes. So, so if to change is to be. greater than your environment, to be. greater than your body, and to be. greater than time,

then your neocortex, your thinking. brain, is a reflection of everything you. know in your life. It's an artifact of. the past. It's a record repository of. everything you've learned and. experienced to this date. And you have a. neurological network for everything. known in your environment. Your parents, your friends, your car, your computer, every object, every person, everything. you have a neurological network for your. identity as your body, from your past, for your ambitions in your future. Your. brain is reflection of everything that's. known.

And because you've experienced all these. elements in your environment, there's an. emotion associated with it. So, you have. an emotion associated with certain. people, different emotions associated. with other people, different emotions. associated with other objects and things. and other places and time. So, then. there's so much research to show that. when you put a person in the same. environment and they see the same people. and they go to the same places and they. do the same things at the exact same. time, it's no longer their personality. is creating their personal reality. Their personal reality is creating their.

personality. Their environment is. controlling unconsciously or. subconsciously the way they're thinking. and the way they're feeling. So, when. they see their co-worker, when they see. their friend, when they see their. parents, they're seeing their parents, their friends, their co-workers in their. neurological network as a memory of the. past. And because every one of those. people has an emotion associated with. it, they start feeling the emotion. that's connected to them and now their. state of being then is returning back to.

the past. So, then to change then is to. be greater. than your environment, to think, act, and feel differently in the same. conditions in your life. That's called. change. And how does How would I do that wake. from you know, I walk in and I see my parents, mom, dad, dog, house where I grew up in. Is there something that I do in that. moment before that moment, when I woke. up that morning, to make sure that I. didn't slip off into the unconscious. um memory and then for and therefore get.

the sort of unconscious feelings about. that experience. Well, whatever it is. that you want. If it's If it's. overeating, I don't know. I'm making. stuff up. If it's. some emotional button that you have with. your family. and and you don't want to feel that way. Yeah, I would rehearse that. If I If I. didn't want to have that. If If you have. a great If you're in I mean, I go to. when I would go to my parents' home when. I when I got older. it was all most of the associations were. so fond for me. Just being at home and. being with my parents and remembering.

where I grew up. It was always fun for. me. And and coming back and seeing how. much I changed in coming back and seeing. the the life that I lived at one point. you know, one point in in my timeline. So, if it's something that you truly. want to change, you're going to remind. yourself. how you're not going to think. You're. going to You're going to remind yourself. how you're not going to act. You're. going to remind yourself how you're not. going to feel and you got to remind. yourself enough times so you don't. forget cuz the moment you forget, you go. unconscious. Then you're going to remind.

yourself how you are going to think. You're going to remind yourself what. you're going to do and rehearse it in. your mind. And you're going to remind. yourself what feeling you want to stay. in the entire time so you don't default. back to the old self. If you practice. that, I guarantee you'll make some. progress. If you lose it nothing wrong. Tomorrow's another day. You got another. You got another chance and we just get. really good at whatever we practice. So, then when you return back into your. life and you say, "Okay. no person.

no place. no thing, no object, no circumstance, no. pain, no craving. is going to cause me to move from this. state today. I guarantee you. if you're able to maintain that modified. state of mind and body your entire day. something unusual happen and will come. in a way that you least expect. That surprises you and leaves no doubt. that what you're doing inside of you is. producing some effect outside of you. And the moment you see the feedback in.

your environment as a result of your. internal change you're going to pay. attention and do it again and you're. going to start believing, "God, did I. really create that? Did that really. happen because of how I changed?" That's. when the game really begins to become. exciting. Practice. Practice. I've been at it a long time. I can tell. Practice. Yeah. Um people hear that they. go. Joe, how long? How much practice? You know, are you talking about a. I've got to I've got to do this for. three, four, five years or.

you know, and and that practice, what. does that look like practically. for someone like me who hears everything. you've just said and wants to make. changes in key areas of my life? Okay, so. there's two times when the door to the. subconscious mind opens up. When you. wake up in the morning cuz your brain. waves are going from delta to theta to. alpha to beta. and when you go to bed at night, you go. from beta to alpha to theta to delta and. you slip through that scale pretty. quickly in the morning and the evening.

But your brain waves start to change. during those times and and one of the. features, one of the important elements. of meditation is to get beyond the. analytical mind. And what separates the conscious mind. from the subconscious mind is the. analytical mind. So, 5% as we said is. our conscious mind, 95% is programmed. subconsciously. And if you're going to. try to change yourself with your. conscious mind, you're outside the. operating system. So, then you got to learn how to change. your brain waves, slow them down. get beyond the analytical mind and enter.

the operating system where you can. rewrite a program, where you can make. those changes. And so. learn how to do that, practice learn how. to do that. And again, it's not a big deal. It's. easy to learn. And then once you can slow your brain. waves down and you're more suggestible. to what you're thinking, now you can. reprogram. You can't do with your. conscious mind. You can say, "I'm. healthy. I'm healthy. I'm wealthy. I'm. wealthy. I'm unlimited. I'm unlimited. I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm whole. I'm. whole." And your body's saying, "No, you're not, dude. You're miserable.

You're unhappy." That thought never. makes it past the brain stem to reach. the body, right? So. it's important for us to in the morning. or the evening. instead of reaching for our cell phone. as the first thing as a habit that we do. and checking our texts and our WhatsApp. and our Telegram and our social media. and our Instagram and our Twitter and. and Facebook and whatever else people. do, their emails, they get connected to. everything known in their life. Before. you start that try this out as an. experiment. Before you start your day,

instead of falling into that redundant. habit. you know, go on autopilot, just say, "Okay if the change is to be greater. than my body, to be greater than my. environment, be greater than time. and and the environment's so seductive. and my body's craving certain emotions. and it's programmed to get up and do. things, I'm going to sit my body down. I'm going to. tame the animal here. And when I'm ready. to get up, we're going to get up, not. when it's tired or when it wants to go. You could literally go inward and forget.

about your outer world. No longer think. about anything out there. If you could lose track of the familiar. past or the predictable future and fall. into the present moment. And if you were. sitting there in silence aware of. nothing but you. and you said, "Okay, what is. the greatest expression of myself I can. be today?". And do that exact process. Let me write. down two thoughts that are not going to. slip by my awareness unnoticed by me.

today. Two memories, whatever it is. What are two behaviors I want to change. today? Let me stay conscious of them and. not go unconscious to them today. Even if it means how I speak. What are two emotions. that I live by every day that I can. literally change. I want to become. conscious of what they feel like in my. body. I want to catch them the moment I. start feeling them. Let me review them. over and over again. enough times so I don't go unconscious. Okay, now I'm conscious of my. unconscious, that 95%.

How do I want to think? How would. greatness think today? Let me review it. Let me repeat it. Let me remember how I. am going to think. Let me remember how I. am going to think. Let me remember how I'm going to behave. here when I'm How am I going to act. here? Let me rehearse a change I want to. make in the certain circumstance. Let me think about how I do want to feel. today. Let me open my heart to life. again. Let me feel kindness and care and. love and gratitude and appreciation. Let. me Let me just bring up that feeling. Let me feel it with my heart. Let me. keep bringing it up so I can bring it up.

enough times. I want to get so good. at bringing up this feeling with my eyes. closed I can do it with my eyes open. You practice that and you not make a. decision to not get up until you feel. that emotion. And then ask yourself, "Can I stay in. this state my entire day?". And if you can't and you go unconscious, ask yourself at the end of the day, "How'd I do? Where'd I go unconscious? Okay, tomorrow. morning, new day, new lifetime. Let me. go again. Let me try again." And it's. the practice, it's the repetition that.

causes the change. Now, here's. the beauty behind this because all of a. sudden when those synchronicities start. to happen, when the coincidences start. to happen, it's no longer a have to. It's no longer, "Oh jeez, I got to go. create my life." It's not like that. It's like the magic is happening you. don't want it to end. Like you you you. realize that you are actually creating. outcomes in your life and now you're not. you're you're you're you're you're. wanting to do the work because you want. the magic to continue in your life and. that's kind of what I'm super proud of.

it with our community. We're doers, you. know, we they do the work not because. they have to, because they love all the. changes that happen in their life as a. result of it, whether it's a mystical. experience, a transcendental moment, you. know, a great opportunity in their life. They're like, "Wow, I I I somehow had a. hand in creating this." And so the. so the excitement of life, the adventure. of life, the unknown becomes the becomes. the quest. I'm so so I got to admit, I'm one of.

those people that wakes up in the. morning and then just gets dragged. dragged off. out of the bed. by my phone and notifications and off. into my day totally unconscious. And there's been so many things that I. reflect on in my life and go, "Man, I. just really want to. I'll get home at the end of the day and. I'll look at certain instances where I. responded in certain ways and go, "Man, I hate that about myself.". And I really want to change that. And it happens again the next day and I. go come home and I think, "Man, I hate. that about myself and I really want to.

change that." And it happens the next. day. And it's been happening for 2. years. When do you want to change that? When you're ready to change that, you. will. When you're when it's becomes boring and. it becomes predictable. I don't want to. have to wait for a crisis or you know, cuz. Well, now that you know, you can't not. know. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Now that you know, you can't not know. And on some level. you may have a belief that you think.

this is hard. Yeah, I do. Yeah, yeah. Cuz I've. struggled with it. Yeah, yeah. And it's. just like. uh. what. you going learning snowboarding and. never taking a lesson, right? It's going. to be like it's going to be tenuous. It's going to be challenging. It's going. to be difficult. Put your time in learn how to do it and. it gets easier as you do it. It's just. like you just you just have to learn the. formula. There's a formula that we've. discovered that it it's it's actually. enjoyable when you do it right. And you actually like it. People want to.

do more of it because it feels so good. and. I mean, we see you look at the. the HRV measurements with our community, look at our brain scans. These are. people that they're not faking ecstasy. They're not faking it. Their brain is at. such a a level of arousal. And the arousal's not pain. The. arousal's not. fear. The arousal's not aggression or. anger. the arousal is ecstasy. The brain. is going in this heightened state. They're making a connection to something. really big. And that feels really good.

And when they realize that they've hit. something really big and it's not coming. from anyone or anything outside of them, they stop looking for it out there and. they realize it's been within them the. whole time. I think I think. so many people. want so many things in their life, but. what we really want is wholeness. Cuz when you have wholeness, you can't. want. How could you want when you're. whole? You only want when you're in. lack. When there's brain and heart coherence, um. there's a level of wholeness that takes. place. where a person is no longer interested.

in separation or lack. They feel like. they have everything they want. That's a. great place to be in. And we've discovered that the more. relaxed you are in your heart, the more awake you are in your brain. It's relaxed in the heart and awake in. the brain, and we teach that. People. actually can get good at doing that. I really want to talk to you about this. brain coherence and this heart. coherence. Um I have to. close off on that morning. routine thing by asking you exactly what. did you do this morning? Ooh. This morning.

Uh I was up probably around uh. 4:30. Yeah. Why? Because there's nobody that can. bother me at that time. There's no. emails, there's no texts, there's. there's no there's my it's my time. What. time were you in bed? Um probably between uh 10:00 and 11:00. Okay. So that's not enough sleep for you, huh? Well, no, that is. I think I I actually.

measure my sleep, so I. and I look at it every day. That's part. of the reason I'm dragging out of bed, but Yeah, for me 4:00 in the morning, 5:00 in the morning is a really great. time. I just I I've just conditioned my. body that way. Um that's the time. And and I I spend a. little time. uh remembering what I'm doing. What am I. doing? What are you doing. in this meditation? Why are you doing. this meditation? What are you about to. do? I like to. just get myself. in my think box. Organizing what am I. not going to think about, what am I. going to stay away from, what am I not.

going to do uh in my meditation. Let me. review that. What I am what am I going. to do? When I get that all worked out, then I. get in my play box. In my play box, there's no thinking. I've got all the. thinking done in my think box. In my. play box, it's really about me changing. my state. And so um I allow for 2 hours every. morning. Doesn't mean I always take it. uh or need it, let me say that, but I. allow for 2 hours. Sometimes I like to. just get my mind. straight, and then. uh I do the work. And I do the work and. and. uh I like to get to that point where.

when I'm done, I feel. like something changed. Do the work. Yeah. What does the work look like? It's meditation. Yeah. It's finding the present moment. It's. getting into the unknown. It's getting. beyond myself, disconnecting from my. body, getting beyond. any thought of anyone or anything, getting beyond time, moving beyond space. and time. Turns out when you focus on nothing, there are so many amazing things that. happen to your brain. I've seen the.

scans over and over again. What have you seen in the scans? Well, there's this thing in the brain. called modularity. And when we're living uh by the hormones. of stress, and stress is when you can't. predict something, when you can't control something, or you. have the perception that something's. going to get worse. You switch on that. fight or flight nervous system, and the. rush of those chemicals. causes us to become alert, to become. aroused. And we narrow our focus.

on the material world. And so when. you're not able to control everything in. your life and you can't predict. everything in your life, you start shifting your attention to. everyone and everything, every person, every object, every place. We've all had. that experience when we're under stress. And. every one of those people, those. objects, those things, those places has. a neurological network in the brain. So. like a lightning storm in the clouds, the brain begins to fire out of order, very incoherently. It becomes modulated. or compartmentalized. It's a house divided against itself, and.

those individual compartments don't talk. to the rest of the brain. And we tend to. get overfocused. You never notice when. you're under stress, you're obsessing. about something, you're overfocusing. about something, you're overthinking. something, you're overanalyzing. You're. driving your brain higher and higher. into higher states of arousal, high beta. brain wave patterns. We discovered that if you teach a person. to go from a narrow focus on something. physical, something material, and broaden their focus, open their. awareness, and put their attention on. space, on nothing,

and create what's called a divergent. focus, the act of sensing and no longer. analyzing, thinking, begins to slow the. brain waves down from that beta brain. wave state to a low level beta, and then. all of a sudden to alpha. If they keep doing it, sensing space. tends to cause those different. compartments that were modulated or. divided to begin to synchronize. And what syncs in the brain actually. links in the brain. So the brain starts. firing in a more holistic state. In.

other words, every single area of the. brain is resonating at the same. frequency. And now the brain is. functioning as one neurological network. instead of individuals. That kind of. holism, that kind of. order feels really good. It feels really. good. And so people practice slowing the brain. waves down not only to get beyond the. analytical mind, but to cause the brain to fire in a more. coherent way. And if we're going to have. a clear intention. about what we want, the more coherent.

the brain, the clearer the intention. So. we've seen in 7 days, even in 4 days, these dramatic changes in the levels of. coherence and order that take place in. the brain. The brain's firing in a more. holistic state. That's when the person. notices. a change in their anxiety, in their. depression, in their PS PTSD, whatever. it is. There's more order in the brain. And and. uh the act of focusing on nothing and. opening your awareness to space. creates that kind of amazing change. Did.

you set an intention this morning? I. did. Can you tell me what it is? Ooh. Um I want to be relaxed and awake. I. want to be present with everything that. I do. Um I want to stay in my heart the entire. day. And um I want to be inspired by, you. know, the idea of helping people change. Do you struggle? I do. Yeah. What do you. struggle with? Wow. Um I run a lot of different. aspects of my company. I have.

uh events side. Uh we have a product. side. We have corporate consulting. We. have 250 corporate trainers. Uh we have a vitamin uh company uh. called BioCentropy. We work with uh. remote coherence healers uh that. actually are we do research and they're. remotely changing people's health. We. have a huge research team with. University of California, San Diego. Uh we have a lot of players on the team. We have um. uh nonprofits.

Uh. What else we have? Um. We have a Inner Health Coalition for. physicians and and doctors and health. care practitioners around the world that. want to teach a different model. So I. have a lot of different things that I. have my hand in. Um. And I think you know, I'm creative by. nature. And I like to be creative. And sometimes. I have a lot of obligations. in terms of making decisions for 2026, uh decisions about things that I need to. do, uh documentaries, whatever it is. And.

and I think I struggle with not having. wanting more time for being creative. Uh and that's kind of the fun part of my. job, whether. I look at the data, I see the research, and then I go, "Oh my god, I want to do. a meditation. Now I understand how to do. this meditation or teach this better.". All the information that we're gathering. in our research is to teach. transformation better. That's why I want. to close the gap between knowledge and. experience. So it's we have billions of data points,

and it's a lot of time to look through. all that and to learn about it. Uh but. if I would if I would choose to do. something, I would love to study the. research more, love to. uh do more teach um. um. create more meditations, you know, uh. teach some more unique courses. Uh and. so I I think I I think one of my. challenges really is to is to be able to. stay creative with everything I have. going on in my life. I think everyone. that's a high achiever.

always wishes they could pause time. I think um. we're we're at such a level of growth. right now to just. uh. uh globally. I mean, our events sell out in 10. minutes, you know, uh 5, 10 minutes. And and we have a. waiting list of. sometimes 10,000 people. Well, that's a. problem. You know, that's a. And and I won't give up doing um live. events, you know, I think it's I won't. do it online. I think it's there's. something special that happens.

uh in community. And so I've never met someone who is. so mission driven and doing so well in. this department that also. isn't paying a personal cost. for the mission in some regard or. capacity. Well, I I think I've learned a few. things over the years about that. And I think one of the great things, number one, is I have an amazing team. I. mean, I'm nothing. without my team.

Uh and they're creatives, and they're. cool, and they're. emotionally intelligent, and they. they're not nine-to-fivers. They share. the same mission. with me. They they see the same vision. They they do it for the same reason. Somehow they're part of that that change. and transformation. Um. So, my team um. is able to allow me to do something. really really unique and that is to. focus on focus on what I love to do more. than anything else. So, uh my team is.

super super huge help for me. So, I I I. think that it's an important element. The other thing that I work on, I think. every day of my life, is. uh to be the example of everything that. I teach. I I mean, that's important for. me because. uh uh. I want to be I want to be in the game. with everybody. So, when I see. transformation, when I see miracles, when I see healings, when I see change, when I see. poor people become rich, whatever that. is, and I'm a part of that, I think it's.

really it humbles me. Yeah, it really. makes me more humble in seeing what's. possible for human beings. And And so, I. never want this work to be about me. I. want it to be about you. I want it to be. I want to celebrate your story. Uh you. know, I. I want I want to I want to be there for. that person when they open their eyes. and were blind and they're seeing for. the first time. I want to be right. there. I want to be there. I want to remember. that moment and the and and her joy. Um so, for me I I work on on being the example.

in every way that I can. And and and it. sometimes it requires um. a lot you know, extra time to do that. Yeah. What is What is the What is the um And. then this is an interesting use of. phrase cuz I'm saying the word cost as. if as if as if it's a negative, but I. just I think everyone that's leading a. mission, whatever that might be, and. they're really dedicated to that mission. in the way that you are flying around. the world, continuing to do it in person where most. people you know, everyone knows you.

could just do it online and you'd. probably make more money, to be honest. You know, there's people that just have. moved online post-pandemic. You're. you're giving a level of dedication and. personal investment into this mission. that must. Well, I assume it must come at a. personal cost to some degree. Um you make sacrifices. Um you have to. sacrifice uh relationships at time, you. know, sometimes you can't be where you. want to be. Um. but I think that the people in my life. that love me understand my mission.

uh and and they respect that. Uh sometimes I'm on six different time. zones in 4 weeks and and that's a lot. for my body, you know, but. um. God, watching somebody on the stage just. the other day tell the story of how she. overcame trigeminal neuralgia in one. moment in the event. She wanted someone. to chop her head off. That's how much. pain she had in her face for years. One moment. She said, "I have no pain. That's the first time I've not had pain. in years.".

Uh to me, like. that's worth all the lost luggage, the missed flights, uh. uh the jet lag. That to me is worth more. than all the gold in the world. I mean, I don't know. It's just so so uncommon. and yet something in me didn't us. wakes up. Something wakes up in us. uh when we see that. We We We forgot. We forgot and somehow we remember. So, um you ask my staff, what is the. greatest part of their job, they'll tell. you being a part of transformation.

Being a part of it. Being a part of that. So, there is a cost um. always uh. uh and at the same time I really I. really work on. uh figuring out ways to do things. better. I mean, uh I think that's one of the things I. love about myself is just learning. learning from my experience, learning. from my past, and the experience is the. greatest professor. And And just saying, "Okay, if I had another opportunity, how. could we do it differently? How could we. serve better? You know, how can we make.

it easier? What can we do differently?". And And again, I just have a great team. that's super committed to whether. they're running events, whether they're. creating logos, whether they're doing a. brand, whether they're managing the. website, whatever they're you know, running the composing music with me for. meditations, uh or doing research. We just have a. really people that share that same. mission. And And I think um. changing individuals one by one to. somehow make a change in the world. Being a part of that's pretty cool.

Was there a conscious moment in your. life that sent you. more so in this direction? Um sure. I I mean, I got run over by a. truck in a triathlon in 1986 in Palm. Springs, uh California. And um. I broke six vertebrae in my spine. And I. had uh bone fragments on my spinal cord. and I had the neural arch of T8 uh. compressing on the cord. So, uh typical. uh. prognosis for that, you know, is is uh.

Harrington rod surgery. They They put. these long stainless steel rods in your. spine. So, in my case, it would be from. the base of my neck to the base of my. spine. Stabilize the entire spine. And um. I just had four opinions from four of. the leading surgeons in Southern. California and I was. in my 20s and I just I just couldn't. imagine myself living. on you know, addictive medications or. not being able to do. whatever I love to do physically.

So, I decided not to have the surgery. I. just went against the the the opinions. of. the experts and I just thought maybe. there's a way that my my mind could heal. my body. And so, um. that started my journey and it somehow. it worked. So, I've been spending the. rest of my life studying that. Had that not happened, do you think you. would have gone in a in a different. direction in life? Sure, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. What if the worst thing that happened to. you was the best thing that happened to. you? I don't know.

And that starts this this you create. this belief in your mind that you can. heal yourself using your mind. Well, it was kind of crazy because um I. think when you're faced with crisis, like I in the situation like this, we. tend to focus on the worst thing that. could happen instead of the best thing. that could happen. And that's cuz of the hormones of stress. and emergency. You always prepare for. the worst. Better chances of survival if. you think about the worst. So, it took an enormous amount of energy for. me to stop that. To stop thinking that. way and stop feeling that way. 6 and 1/2.

weeks of. a dark night of the soul, I would say. Cuz I couldn't get my brain to do what I. wanted it to do. Even though I. theoretically and understood it, I just. kept defaulting. And uh. I spent hours and finally I was able to. to kind of get control over it. And then. as soon as I started noticing. uh some changes in my body, that's when. I That's when I just the moment I. started feeling my limbs again, the. moment I started noticing I was moving a. little better, I knew somehow I was having an effect.

and that's that's the moment it all. changed for me. Running all these businesses, Joe, and. you have such an empire of businesses. and projects and people and teams all. over the world. How have you managed your relationship. with technology? Cuz technology's. omnipresent in my life. Yeah. And that's. why I say I get dragged out of bed by. it. Steven, I never planned on doing any. of this. I never I never planned on. doing any of this. I mean, all the. corporate stuff just came out of a few.

lectures because. there were CEOs and presidents of. companies that urged me to create a. model for change for companies and. organizations. I never wanted to do. that. I never wanted to do. Inner Health Coalition with doctors. Just our community. There's an emergent. consciousness that says, "Please do. that." You know, so we're we're working. on. uh in the same vein of the same mission, giving people our community, listening. to our community, and creating, you. know, more of that for people. I don't.

have I don't have any difficulty if it's. part of the mission to do any of those. things. I think it's uh. I think it. if I were just doing my events, uh and and that's it. And we could just. do that. My life would be. a whole lot simpler. But all these other. things that we're doing now in terms of. They They also bear a lot of fruit. I. mean, the research that we're doing. right now is is. I can say right now, Steven, that.

what we're doing is no longer. pseudoscience. I can say that now. It's. no longer pseudoscience. I can say that in 7 days, your body can make a. pharmacy of chemicals that work better. than any drug. I can tell you that one. intervention. called meditation can change a host of. different health conditions. There's no. drug that does that. So, if I weigh those. all those different things that I have. to. evolve uh. in some way against the effects it's.

producing, it's always for me worth the. effort. Are you happy? Yeah. What does that. mean? Um that I don't need anyone or anything. to make me happy. That's your definition of happiness. I think yeah. I mean, if you have a kind. of a freedom of expression without any. real limitation in your in your. comfortable with you and your and you. love what you're doing and. you feel good about it, and sure. I. mean, I'm always in the river of change. I'm always looking for blind spots. I'm. always working.

on evolving who I am. I always want to. be I always want to evolve my. experience. I always want to look to see. if it serves me. Uh so, um. Do you have sad days? I have I have days where I'm. overwhelmed. By just just everything. And what's what are the symptoms of that. overwhelm? Um it takes me a little bit to focus my. attention again. Just too many things I. have to think about. So, I have to. take a little time and get get centered. and organized.

But do I have sad days? I don't know. Sad, I don't really. know sad, but. uh kind of uh days where I'm. um. kind of kind of introspective. uh. needing much emotion. Yeah, I I have. those days. Yeah. If this were to be your last day on. earth, Joe. Wow. And there was. just a central message. that the millions of people that could.

be listening right now. you felt that they needed to hear. That would serve them the best and serve. us collectively the best. What might that central message be? It's important for people to believe in. themselves. I think it's. really important for people to remember. that they're the creators on some level. And they have a hand in creating in. their life. And that. uh. possibility is something that they. should always keep their mind open to. I.

think. that we're greater than we think. We're. more powerful than we know, more. unlimited. than we could ever dream. Do you realize how many people you've. helped? Um gosh, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. You must be moved by the feedback you. get because I was reading through. testimonials and messages and all the. top comments and stuff and it's really. really profound stuff. You know, and I it's hard to imagine a. world where that.

that doesn't touch, you know. It it it. Sit with you. For better or for worse, you know. You know, people stop me a lot. of times and I'll be somewhere and. they'll say, "Hey, I I know you hear. this a lot but. um you you really helped me or you. really changed my life." And I always. say to them, "I never I never get tired. of of the story.". Uh it's the feedback for me that uh. uh inspires me to keep doing what I'm. doing. So, I love the stories. I I love. those I love to hear them and it uh it. challenges many times my own belief.

about what's possible. So, um. yeah, I think I I I'm I love to. celebrate that with people. If this next. chapter of your life is successful, if we sit here 10 years from now and you. say, "Steve, that was a. fantastic decade. for you.". What would have happened in that decade. for you to say that? Gosh. Um we would publish a lot of papers that. show um how powerful people really are. Um we would have our own research center. where we could do even further studies.

on cancer, on uh all different chronic. health conditions. Uh we we're studying the effects of. healing on others and we have really. profound data on that as well. Um. I think that the conversation in in. health care and medicine could change on. some level. I mean, the conversations. that I'm having with researchers and. physicians are not the same. conversations I was having just 2 years. ago, especially when they look at our.

data, they they kind of fall out of. their chair. I mean, it's. I mean, as an example, a drug study. is about 25% causality. One in four. responds and it's usually. you know, 60 days, 90 days, a year before you see. a change. Our data is between 75 and 85%. causality. That means. uh eight out of 10 people are getting a. response and they're not taking. anything, no exogenous substance. In. other words,

their their nervous system is producing. a pharmacy of chemicals that works. better than any drug, right? So, I think. the conversation around emotional. regulation. and emotional health uh could change. That's something that I'm interested in. I think meditation could be something. that is a a way of life for more people. to. to be healthier and to be happier and to. be more whole. Uh. I mean, when I started this journey, even you couldn't even say meditation in.

public. You couldn't even couldn't say. it in certain organizations, corporations, government agencies. It. was not allowed, right? Now it's sexy. Now it's cool, right? Um so, demystifying. uh that process because there's so many. colloquialisms and slangs and idioms. that have to do with meditation. Demystifying that process, you know, we. don't teach any traditional. meditation. We don't teach anything. that's based on culture or religion. We.

we teach meditation based on the data we. see, based on the brain scans, based on. the HRVs, based on the data that we're. collecting. We know the we know the. words now. We know the music. We know. the timing. We know a lot of things. uh. in terms of transformation that has. helped us. in so many ways. So, What do you think's going to become sexy. in 10 years from now that's not sexy. now, like meditation? God, I hope it's not AI. I hope it's not I hope it's not AI. I. hope it's. uh something that has to do with hu- the.

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you're doing, which I found really really interesting. Um this is the first ever global walk. that will take place on Saturday, September the 23rd, 2023. this year. Um all the details are at. walkforthe.world. So, www.walkforthe.world. And I was reading about why you're doing. this. And the words community came up. The words illusion of separation came. up. Yeah. I think, you know, if you study.

the peace gathering projects that have. been done, peer-reviewed articles. of peace gathering projects, when people. come into a community, they meditate on. peace, a city, the crime rates go down, violence goes down, car crashes, car. accidents go down, economic growth goes. up. Somehow there's a change in the in. the collective. But when the meditation ends and the. peace gathering project ends, the crime. rate returns back to the same that you. know, the car accidents and the violence. return back to the same ceiling value as.

it was before. It's not enough to just. uh pray. It's time to be the prayer, right? So, walking meditation we do in. our community and we do a lot of them. because you got to be able to walk as. it. You got to be able to do it with. your eyes open. Doing it with your eyes. closed is a practice so you can do it. with your eyes open so you can. demonstrate it. Demonstrate peace. Demonstrate love. Demonstrate um. change for the world. And so, uh the walking meditation is. four types of meditations. There's. seated meditation. We do a lot of that.

and that's traditional. There's a standing and a walking. meditation and there's a lying down. meditation and we teach all of those. But the standing and walking meditation. is a great way to stand up for the. world. And decide if I change and enough of us. change, we could actually change the. world. So, the meditation starts with our eyes. closed, standing up with our eyes closed. and getting into an altered state. Music changes, we open our eyes and we. walk as that change. We embody that. change. We live that change. We think. about what we're going to leave behind.

for a new world. What what what if I. change? What would be Could I Am I part. of the whole? Could I affect the whole? And so, person walks for a period of. time, they stop again, they close their. eyes, they recalibrate, they get back in. that feeling, they open their eyes and. they walk again. And so, walking meditation is a great way for. uh thousands and thousands of people. from around the world to walk for change. in the world. And and and. we have such compelling data about. collective networks of observers with.

brain and heart coherence that somehow. when you have a random event generator. in our. in our ballrooms. And people. change their state and they have an. intention. That random events become less random. and more intentional. In other words, a machine that's programmed to. toss a coin a thousand times a second, multiple times a second. The more you toss a coin, the more. you're going to get 50/50, right? So, if. you if you have a machine in the room.

and and nobody's in the room, you see. just kind of this line stay right around. the 50/50 mark. But, when you fill that. room with people. and they change their state and they. have an intention, all of a sudden you. see that line break way out of normal. And a programmed machine that's normally. flipping zeros and ones starts behaving. very differently. It tells us that. collective networks begin to determine. reality. And it's not the number of. people, it's not the amount of energy. You got to have entropic energy. It's. the most most coherent group of people. So, if we come together on one day, and.

this will be one of many walks, you leave everything behind. Bring your family, bring your friends, bring your coworkers, bring your. neighbors. You never have to have done a. meditation before. We'll We'll guide. people through it. Uh we'll give them the MP3 file. And um we have just over 800 or 900. cities now from around the world uh that. are have from people from around the. world that are participating. And the.

numbers are growing. So, we don't know. where it'll go, but it's our first uh. attempt to just say if we just can move. the needle 1°, and off that trajectory, off that. timeline, just in another timeline, uh then it served its purpose. So, so um. yeah, we're excited about it. It's the. first one, and hopefully we'll do uh. some more. I'll put all the details. below, wherever you're listening to. this, so you can check it out. Is it I. was wondering as you were speaking, Joe, I was asking myself, you're someone that's constantly doing. research and developing new ideas and.

hypotheses about the world and the way. humans are and the way the universe is. Do there exist beliefs in your head. that you're too scared to share? You mean beliefs that I have that that. are from experience? Or beliefs that I have that I'm that are. conjecturous? Either. Both. Yeah, I I I have a very strong belief. that that um. the probability of us seeing the truth. in reality is zero.

I think that we perceive less than 1% of. reality. The. brain is missing out on a lot of data. And I think that we should never exclude. ourselves. from the unknown. You know, I think. there's a whole part of the unknown self. that that we're unaware of that that I. that I think exists beyond linear uh. time and space. And I and I do believe that that it's. real. And you don't know what that is? Oh, I do, yeah. Yeah, I think it's a.

realm beyond space and time that that I. think. uh you know, your eye right now is. perceiving a very small spectrum of. frequency. The visible light is a very. tiny slice in the electromagnetic uh. spectrum. And that visible light, red, orange, yellow, uh blue, green, indigo, violet, is is actually. uh bouncing off of the slowest and most. stable form of energy called matter. And. that gives us this perception of. separation, right?

Well, that small spectrum is less than. 1% of what we actually can perceive. So, I think that our senses plug us into. reality, into three-dimensional reality, but I think there are realities that. exist beyond space and time that we're. unaware of. That we can tap into? Yeah. Yeah, I do. And I think there are latent systems in. the brain. that once activated allows the brain to. transduce that energy, that frequency. into profound uh information. Do.

psychedelics drug drugs work in in that. in that way? I think psychedelics uh. give a person a perception of reality. that's beyond three-dimensional reality. We're discovering that the. nervous system makes its own pharmacy. of psychedelics. In fact, we have really. recent data that shows that. um. many people that have a mystical. experience in our work that have fMRIs. uh look like they're on psilocybin. Mhm.

Yeah. And yet your nervous system's making. that that that uh. natural chemical. endogenously. And how are those mystical ex-. experiences triggered? I'll give you the. short version. Mhm. Um. there's a tiny little gland in the back. of your brain called the pineal gland. And the pineal gland has tiny little. crystals inside of it that are stacked. up on top of each other, rhombohedron in. shape. And that little tiny uh gland acts like.

a radio receiver for electromagnetic. frequencies. And when those crystals. become. can become activated, uh like a radio. receiver, they can pick up frequencies. that are beyond your senses, the. quantum. And they can transduce It's called a. transducer. It can transduce that. frequency, like a TV antenna, into profound imagery. A very full-on sensory experience. without your senses. Interesting. Explains a lot.

Explains a lot. My girlfriend always. talks to me about the pineal gland and. DMT and. you know, and the power of everything. you've just described. I just want to remain open-minded. because being closed-minded at any point. in my life is not conducive with. progress and growth. So, my my um desire in doing this. podcast generally is just to learn from. people that have new perspectives on the. nature of the world and to remain.

humble in the fact that I know very. little. So, what you said at the end there about. us knowing almost knowing zero about the. nature of true reality, whatever that. might mean, I do believe. I do believe that I know very little. about the true nature of reality, and my. senses have deceived me, whether it's in. psychedelic states or other states. So, I'm very aware how the fragility of this. experience or. you know, whether truth is what I think. it is. Yeah. Well, um. I think it only takes one mystical. moment, one transcendental moment, uh.

for us to realize that um. we're missing out on a little bit of. reality. We have a closing tradition on this. podcast where the last guest leaves a. question for the next guest without. knowing who they're leaving a question. for. If you were made. president. Oh, boy. of this country. and you had to implement laws that would. make our lives better, Wow. what would you do and why?

Wow, where do we start? Oh, boy. Um. well, um. I would consider education uh to be a. much bigger priority. for. uh both people that teach, uh that they're rewarded in a in a. better way, and the educational system. to be uh. more Socratic and more stimulating for.

uh people to question and and and to. have healthy debates, I think. That's great. Um. I would consider looking at the medical. model a little bit more and really look. to see if health care is really. uh. helping people in this country. Uh uh. I would find ways to. uh. unify. uh. uh different. uh. sex or or different uh. uh organizations or bring them together,

bring them to the middle in some way. I. I I think. uh. standing up for principles. uh instead of politics is is a really. healthy thing to do. Uh I'd probably try to figure out a way. to reduce the debt, to end war, uh to find ways that we. could coexist with other countries. Um. I'd certainly think a lot about uh. artificial intelligence and decide if it. was uh really really healthy for human.

beings. Um. I I would uh encourage in many ways uh. different religions to come together and. and find ways to to um to get along. Um. I would. spend a lot of time with regenerative. agriculture and bringing life back to. the soil and back to the earth. uh. and figure out ways to help the. the oceans and species that are passing. uh and and to address uh healthy food.

Uh food that is good for people that. that is medicine for people. Joe, thank you for your work, and thank. you on behalf of all the people, the. millions of people who are all around. the world that you're clearly helping. without really even knowing it. Um. I've never seen such profound. testimonials in any, you know, in. anything I've ever seen. And also, the. reason why I actually have this on the. table isn't because you asked to promote. me. I think your team actually said I. didn't need to put it on the table, but. it's because one of our members of our. team um. their elderly relative has been going.

through a lot of a lot of pain and. struggle in their lives. Um and they read your book and it really. really helped them this week. Ah, that's. great. So, they asked if they could you could. get if I could get it signed on behalf. of them. Absolutely. Which I think is a testament. to. to the impact you're having on people. So, thank you so much, Joe. It's an. honor. No, thank you, Steven, for all. the work you do, also. I appreciate it. It's funny, every year around this time. of year, for whatever reason, I go on a. little bit of a psychological shift. And. that psychological shift, I think, is. somewhat inspired by summer, but it's.

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