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I love that, Pete said is. encouraging gender affirming care in the military. I love that in the video that he spoke about this, he had on a full face of makeup. The MAGA men are laser focused on masculinity. because all they think about are men. And now we've reached. the next layer of this where we know they're thinking about penises. It's just like, you know, the Band-Aid just keeps getting ripped off, and they're revealing more about themselves as they feel more.

emboldened in their fascist regime, much like Trump's cognitive exams. Peg Seth has found himself with a needle in his arm. saying, why won't my penis work? Doc let me know. I'm Joanna Coles, this is The Daily Beast, and we have a new feature. to the podcast, which I want to tell you about immediately. We have a phone number finally, for you to leave your voice messages. and your questions for me or Michael Wolff or David.

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We are going to be talking about Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell and of course Pete Hegseth. Where does she stand on Haiti? Loti I suspect Jen has more testosterone. in her little toe than the entire of the American military. Let's get into it before we do. Quick reminder, please subscribe to The Daily Beast wherever you get your podcast. The reason we can have independent conversations.

is because we are independent media, but that means we rely upon your support, and one of your ways to show that is to subscribe. So now finally, let's get into it with Jen Welch. Oh my goodness. You are the scourge of the Department of Education. Jen Welsh is back on the podcast, and she has pissed off. the head of the education Department, Linda McMahon. Jen, explain everything before we get into discussing Mitch McConnell.

Lindsey Graham, all of them. Let us first discuss you and how you upset the Department of Education. Okay, so on my podcast, I've had it. My co-host and I were discussing homeschooling and. how a lot of homeschoolers do this because they want to teach creationism. And in the homeschooling pamphlets, they talk about dinosaurs. living with man at the same time discourage critical thinking. And I said, this is trickle down stupidity.

The people, the dumbest people she knew in college were homeschooling their kids. And so this is trickle down stupidity. This is MAGA on steroids. This is Maha, this is trad wife. This is unvaccinated and unchecked and all that shit down stupidity. I wish that I had thought of that. I it's such a good line and it is of course what homeschooling is. Okay, I know some of you out there have been homeschooled. You can leave us a comment, but I think homeschooling isn't good for the kid or the parents.

It's not. And my my point. was that the parents can't critically think they're very scared of the world. They're very fear based people. They've been encouraged to be blindly obedient. And so I called it trickle down stupidity. They chop it up. New York Post, Fox News, bedwetting, hand-wringing, pearl clutching, losing their mind. I get really excited about this because it's so easy to just poke them. because they're so scared of people. And the the liberal white Jennifer Welch, you know, really terrifies them so much.

To my surprise, you terrify all of us. I'm just putting out that you do to touché. But they Kiley, our producer, said, I'm Jen, the Department of Education just tweeted about you. And it was like they quoted. the New York Times Post, and it was like, homeschool, homeschooling is great, blah, blah, blah, all of these platitudes. Meanwhile, it's important to note that of course, they piled on to this because.

part of the fascist project is Christian nationalism and Christian nationalism. An antidote to that is. Trump likes the poorly educated. So of course there's said he's open. These are his words. I love the uneducated. He wants Linda McMahon. to close down the Department of Education because fascism can thrive. if you have a dumbed down, trickled down, stupidity, electorate. And so of course, they've clamored onto this. Did you just do that trickle down, trickle down stupidity. This could be a meme.

This could be a gesture that we all start doing. Trickle down incompetence. You can you can say it were so many things. Yes you can. So where are we now? Has someone come to you and asked you to start a school? I would send my children to the Jen Welsh School of Life, the Jemma School of Life. The Glenn Beck just posted on Instagram that he is. He would like pumps and me to debate a 15 year old homeschooler. Yes, on his show. I hope you said yes.

No, of course I'm not going to do it. I mean, a 15 year old homeschooler, because as a mother, like this 15 year old has been wildly indoctrinated, probably thinks that the Earth is 5000 years old. And here's the thing. And they probably live with a dinosaur. pterodactyl. Yeah. And I don't want to intellectually bully a child. Now, Glenn Beck I would love to intellectually bully, but. So you should you should do a debate with Glenn Beck about it.

Glenn, if you're watching the challenges laid down in person, in person, possibly naked, not naked, I don't know that there's a bottle of vodka. big enough that would entice me to see Glenn Beck naked. All right, so unit arts, then unit. But I do think a wrestling, a debate. I mean, actually, it was the thing that Charlie Kirk said he loved to do. Right debate, you know, take me on and will argue it out. Although he had pretty extreme positions to.

so where does this end Gen I mean, the news cycle will run amuck. New tomorrow. There will be scared. Terrified of somebody else. You know, these are the people that are scared of Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, drag queens, books, Jennifer Welch, podcasters. These people live in a constant state of heightened fear. So while I am scaring them today, fret not. Tomorrow some new scary person will come out. and scare the shit out of them tomorrow, and then they'll just repeat the hysteria.

all over again. And that's what life is like inside the magical. Okay, so side note as we are both the mother of two sons. Two sons? Yeah. Two sons. Could you imagine anything worse than homeschooling them? No, I couldn't, and I don't think they could imagine anything worse. Right? No. The idea of my two sons being trapped with me for 15 years. as I was distractedly trying to teach the math, geography, all the things.

What a disaster. That would be a complete disaster. And I don't know about you, but when my kids, sometimes they were like, hey mom, can you help me with my homework? And I sit down, it's like algebra. And I'm like, straining like, I don't remember this. It's been married. No, I remember my best friend's husband used to be on homework duty. from time to time, and she said it was always a disaster. because he would just end up shouting at them, why don't you understand? Why can't you do this?

And it's just some of us are not born to teach. Exactly. We're not born to teach. But the MAGA movement also has weaponized all of this against teachers. who are wonderful people, who are underpaid, and they have made. teachers out to be a boogeyman. And so they are encouraging this homeschooling. And so that's why they have just completely latched on to what I said, because it is a mirror. It is a mirror up to how stupid their plans are for the Department. of Education. Okay, well, we've got off to a flying start with a flying start.

Okay. So you know, my next question obviously is testosterone. I suspect you have more testosterone. in your little finger than the entire of the American military. What do you think of Hedges is decision are Secretary of forever wars. that there should be compulsory testing for testosterone in the military? I love this, I love that Pete.

is encouraging gender affirming care in the military. I love that in the video that he spoke about this, he had on a full face of makeup with multiple multiple camera angles. Why was he doing that thing where he looked into the middle distance? I thought that was very strange because he starts by looking directly at you, and then suddenly a shot where he's talking over, like, where have you gone? I immediately noticed that as well. This is an unserious person.

We don't have to look that far into Freud's. teachings to understand and deduce what's happening here. The MAGA men are laser focused on masculinity. because all they think about are men. And now we've reached. the next layer of this where we know they're thinking about penises. It's just like, you know, the Band-Aid just keeps getting ripped off, and they're revealing more about themselves as they feel. more emboldened in their fascist regime. So. So what is it about, though, the quest for more testosterone?

Because I don't think they have much. I think this is the governing of low tea people, people that have high testosterone, number one, probably don't even know it because they've never had to test it. The fact that he's thinking about this tells me, much like Trump's cognitive. exams, Pete Seth has found himself. with a needle in his arm saying, why won't my penis work? Doc let me know. And then they, oh, buddy, you've got low t, you need testosterone injections.

I think when the history books are written about all of this. and all the tell all memoirs, after you know who kicks the bucket, it's. going to be revealed that all of these broken men have caused. a ripple effect by their uniting and to try to keep their secrets, you know, covered up when I think we know a lot of them. are in the closet, a lot of them are probably bisexual. So you have experience with addiction. Pete Hegseth has had problems with alcohol.

He left his two jobs running veterans. affairs organizations. with accusations by. whistleblowers and by former colleagues that he was intoxicated on the job. When he went through his hearings, he promised that. he would not be drinking on the job. Do you think this is another aspect. of his issue with substances? Absolutely.

I don't think he's ever received treatment. My husband, as you mentioned, is in recovery and people that are in recovery. It requires rigorous honesty, which precludes any addict. currently in the Trump regime that may be an active addiction. It precludes them from seeking treatment because the number one rule is. you have to be rigorously honest and you can't have secrets. The whole Trump regime is about secrets and lies. So of course he's either not sober or he is a raging, dry drunk.

This is not a person in recovery. This is not a person who's gone through therapy. We may remember that he was accused of sexually assaulting a woman, pay to her. hush money. His mother wrote him a letter begging him to stop assaulting women. and treating women like shit. Yeah, she said, you are an abuser of women. Yes. And I think that a lot. of the problems with these men are the secrets they keep. And in Pete hexes the world.

He is a really crazy Christian. And you probably heard his pastor talk about women. not having the right to vote and all of this stuff. And Pete, Seth probably tries to solve his problems by saying, Jesus, please forgive me. And this is the this is how where Trumpism. and Christian nationalism completely dovetail. Trump has been able to commit all of these crimes and do unethical. things, and the public has forgiven him without any accountability.

Well, that's what. evangelical Christianity promotes forgiveness without accountability. Okay, so let me ask you something, because looking at the Washington Post. Ipsos poll last week, the only real people now full throated. supporting Trump are Catholics, Roman. Catholics and white evangelicals. Where does someone like Lindsey Graham fit in that mix?

Right. So again, it goes to the secrets. I grew up in Oklahoma, which is very, very evangelical Christian, Oklahoma City and the state of Oklahoma. The predominant religion is evangelical Christianity. And these people, my mother would always say my mother lifelong, 1883 years old. She'd always say, how did she even end up in that mix? How did you end up in Oklahoma? What was your family doing that? We're from Dallas originally, and then my dad bought some businesses and we moved to Oklahoma. And so she would always say, well, Jennifer,

the bigger, the bigger the Christian, the bigger the secret. And it was always true. My friends that were recruiting me the most that were like, you've got to go. get saved, you've got to get saved that were just like manic about it. Their families. I'd go spend the night and I've noticed one night the mom kind of had a black eye. and I would say, Heather white, what does your mom have a black eye? And she was like, oh, my dad and mom got in a fight the other night. Well, it turns out her dad was banging the secretary. and mom found out, confronts him, he roughs her up.

But these were the people that told me that my family was going to burn in hell. forever because we didn't go to the church that they went through. So how do they atone for that? Please forgive me. I screwed my secretary and I punched my wife. Poof. You're forgiven. Who does that sound like? Trump starts an insurrection. All of the things to court. You have immunity. Poof. No accountability. So people ask me this all the time.

How can evangelicals support Trump? It's the exact same thing. Authoritarian religion has a accountability. Forgiveness. Without accountability and authoritarian government, they both require blind obedience and picking up the rug, sweeping things under and putting them out. He does seem to be using the military for as his own personal trainer. I mean, you see him pushing sleds. He's always doing weights. He's doing all up. He's attempting to to do pull ups.

Have you seen them? Well, it makes the case for low tea. Right? But have you seen him trying to do the press, the bench pressing. and the pull ups? I could do better than he could do. Well, that Glenn Beck should challenge the two of you to be versus. Jennifer Walsh. I'll do it. I'll take it. And then RFK junior should be the referee. He should. He can. Actually, he's actually pretty fit. I have to give credit where credit is due office pretty hard. I haven't seen the bottom. I'll just never get over he and kid Rock climbing in that bathtub,

drinking milk together. That was a weird shit. Weird. And that thing where he's on his bicycle in the so weird. Strange. And then he's out with Doctor Oz, climbing up things and then doctor, they're so weird. It's very, very odd. But I think that he has transferred his passion for alcohol. to a passion for exercise, which is why he's always working out with the troops. He's pushing his sled. I just think that now he's getting into into high tea Loti whatever the tea it is.

Michael Wolff says that this is Pete Hegseth, throwing his hat in the ring to be president in 2028, that he realizes that JD Vance and Marco Rubio have got a head start. JD Vance was out doing Joe Rogan last week. He was doing everything with his book. And Pete is. Whoa. What's happening? And Marcos running Venezuela. He's national security adviser. He's secretary of state. And this war isn't going very well.

And what I call myself the secretary of war, he should have stuck with defense now, his secretary forever Wars. So this is him saying, hey, over. here, free t injections for the brochure. Thoughts? Do you think that might be plausible? Yes, because I think most of the men in the manga movement are. They feel ten foot tall and bulletproof. And I think that they they like dunking on things. They know that they have failed forward and that life has come at them to easily.

And so, of course, Pete, Seth, who is breathtakingly incompetent, who is a an impulsive thinker, an impulse impulsive actor, of course, he thinks he would have the hubris. and the arrogance and the delusion of grandeur. to think that he could be president of the United States. So yeah, I can buy into that. I hope he does run. I hope he does run. I hope he runs to. I hope you do, because we all need some fun. We need some entertainment. I want him to run.

I want him to run to. Okay, good. All right. So we'll be behind him. And also they can. I always think he looks like an American girl doll. He does little pocket chief. He does little socks, and he stars and stripes. I think there could be a whole line. American doll. Yes, I think this is Joanna and I are endorsing. on the Republican ticket for 2028. Pete pizza. Yeah. Our American doll boy. Yep. Perfect. Okay, so, Mitch McConnell, dead or alive?

I'm sorry, but. Oh, that's such a good road. I think we I think we've got a situation where we have a veggie boy propped up. I think his brain is cooked. Is such bad taste. It is. But you know what? But I don't care because Mitch McConnell had. I intend to treat Mitch McConnell the way he treated the American electorate, the way he has treated American women, the way he is treated our constitution.

So, yes, I'm going to bask in the bad taste of bashing Mitch McConnell, because women in my home state. don't have a right to abortion and are dying because of Mitch McConnell. And we could go on and on about all the horrible things that he's done. But am I sad that he's in the hospital at 80? God only knows how much. I mean, I feel like we've been watching this man die for five years. every time he's not been well, would you, if you were his wife?

And that is a scenario I'm struggling to imagine. I wasn't going to say. Would you pull the plug? I was going to say, would you have come back from your trip to China, where you were meeting. the vice president of China to see your husband, who had fallen. and been unconscious, taken to hospital, and the emergency. call had CPR on it. They said, oh, we're you know, patient is undergoing CPR. He's taken to hospital in an ambulance.

We know because he's told us he was unconscious. His wife, Elaine Chao, was away. If you were married to McConnell, would you have come back? I that's a hypothetical. I was married to McConnell. Would I come back? No. If my current has been CPR, I would immediately. get back at wild horses. Couldn't keep me from getting to his side. But if I was married to Mitch McConnell, know how to lean Chao it you'd. Elaine Chao. It's a new verb, isn't it?

Lane? Chow it. Yeah. Okay. First. So you think he's in? Are you with Laura Loomer on this? That he's in a persistent vegetative state. Why do you have to put me in such. That is diabolical. Okay. Diabolical company. She she kind of. I kind of I kind of am with her. I kind of am on this issue. I am finding myself in strange bedfellows with Laura Loomer. I do not think that this man is of sound mind. The photograph that he took from an American hospital.

as though he were a hostage of al Qaeda or ISIS, is breathtaking. And clutching the news, clutching the newspaper and trying to smile. I'm calling bullshit on all of it. And I think Andy Beshear needs to grow a pair and do what. Mitch McConnell would do and call the election. Just start it with death. He would definitely do it. Definitely. And then let Mitch McConnell come out and say, no, I'm here. I'm completely fine. What are y'all doing? This is crazy.

Why has no Betty put Mitch McConnell on just a knife? A ten second video to reassure people that he is he's in a vegetative state, his chief of staff. His main advice gets paid quarter of $1 million. He hasn't figured out how to actually reassure. people that Mitch is still compliments, right. I just. This is serious.

He is a United States senator. How many people on both sides of the aisle, whether it's RBG. or what was the lady in California, Dianne, Dianne Feinstein or Donald Trump? Kay Granger, congresswoman. in Texas, who, it turned out, had moved into a residential care home. Exactly. Alzheimer's and was still congresswoman. Exactly. And this is just the Senate is ours. The Senate is the peoples. And these this club of crusty old senators have made it theirs.

And we need to demand the way Mitch McConnell would demand. I mean, he he was he had power and he wielded it. even when he was the minority leader of the Senate. And I think that Andy Beshear. needs to man up and call the election right now. Do it. Andy probably needs to cool Pete and get a shot. Get a shot of high tea. Courtesy of and yeah, courtesy of the US military.

Think that. Do you think that this is a good moment for Andy Beshear? I mean, what would. what would Gavin Newsom be doing if this was happening in California? I think we would see him. Gavin makes bold moves. I mean, that's one thing that he does. He likes to be provocative towards Trump. I do. I think it could really be a game changer for Andy Brashear. I interviewed him in person once in Oklahoma. and he's like straight out of central casting. He's Southerner, choirboy, nice.

progressive on a lot of issues, looking really good looking. I mean, just and you can just tell he's like a good person. Like it came in. I was like, he's just a good person. This for him to show the kind of cojones to do something like this, I think it would put him right up there in the talk for 2028. Right. Because the electorate is craving people that fight. We want the our politicians to fight for us the way. MAGA is fighting to tear everything down, the way MAGA is fighting to plunder.

We want our politicians to fight for us. And I think if Andy were to do this, it could be a seismic shift in his political future. But if he were to do that, does that put him at odds. with a Republican state that has voted for him? And of course, his father was governor, too, right? So, in a sense, does he end up he's got to kind of straddle. a line in terms of I think a lot of his voters. are actually normally Republican. or people who voted for Mitch McConnell have also voted for Andy Beshear.

I think that he. I think that now is not a time to straddle. ether, fight fascism or don't. But the straddles are the silent people that are capitulating. And so I'm tired of the straddles. I would rather sit down with somebody that's batshit crazy MAGA than a moderate. right now. Wow, yeah I would. Wow. Because right. now, in the face of what we're seeing, it is either you're going to fight this. with everything you can and you're going to fight for it.

I had a professor on the podcast yesterday and he was like, I'm just in the middle. And I'm like, in the middle of fascism. What does that look like? What does it mean to be in the middle of this? And I think we need to be clear eyed with our full chest that we oppose this. We oppose the crime syndicate that is planted in the executive branch right now. So where are you on Todd Blanch? He's a compulsive liar. He is a pedophile protector.

He is a criminal enabler. He goes in to his hearings with two active bar complaints. That's never happened. I mean, you know, everybody is like, oh, we're living in times. I'm like, I really want precedent times. My husband was on my podcast earlier and he said, I never thought I'd say this, but give me back Jeff Sessions. That's how low the bar is, right? And Jeff Sessions, yet another of Trump's people who worked slavishly for him,

recused himself over Russia, as we all remember, and, of course, has never really gotten back on his feet after that. No, no. And that's that's the price. That's why all of these men will debase themselves to Trump. And you know what it is. I've just figured the whole thing out. You know, the trad wide movement is popping off all over the place. All of these MAGA men Little Moses, Mike Johnson, Pete Hedge. said Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, all of them could put on a masterclass on how to be a trad wife.

We are governed by submissive men that are trad wives to Donald Trump. Donald Trump's cabinet is actually a trad wife cabinet. It's a trad wife cabinet wife cabinet that is a reality. They are so submissive and he finds them boring. because he falls asleep in his own cabinet meetings. If everybody agrees with you all the time, it's a snooze fest. It's a snooze first. Okay. All right. Helipad. Will you be flying your helicopter to the new helipad on the south lawn?

Of course. Of course. When I take my helicopter, I'll. I think there's a helicopter in your future, Jen, the way that you're going. So I still can't help thinking it should be Jen Welsh for Senate. Come on, Jen, you've got to find a safe seat. We've gone over this, Joanna. You know I would rather earn my money on my back than be a politician, but rather it just be cleaner, more defined, less nuanced. Yeah.

No, I think that the reflecting pool, the all of the gold medallions. I know you probably saw the crazy glue that was on Trump's desk the other day. Right. All of these things we can dive down and talk about. But I decided I don't give a shit about any of these things. I don't care about the East Wing. I don't care about the ballroom. I don't care about the arch. I don't care about the reflecting pool. I don't care about the helipad. We can fix all of that. We can fix every single bit of that. He is turning upside down. The rule of law.

He is appointing people that met with Gillon Maxwell. privately and told her, look, I'll move you. And here's a pardon. This is what I'm deducing from this. I don't know if this is true or not. This is just my hypothesis. And when it's politically convenient, I'll roll it out for you. Just keep your mouth shut. Don't say anything else to the Wall Street Journal. Do you think she'll be pardoned as Trump leaves office? Assuming she can't be be she can't be pardoned before then. Yes. Do you think that that Trump actually has won the Epstein files? No.

They're pesky. They have a they just don't ever completely go away. Do they? We think oh, they kind of ebb and flow. I think there's two much there. There's just an overwhelming amount of evidence there. I mean, and the more they cover it up, the more public opinion. turns on on him regarding that on both sides. So there's still 3 million more files to come out that haven't come out,

but there doesn't seem to be any pressing call for them to come out. I mean, we had Andrew Weissman, the former general counsel of the FBI, on the podcast last week, and he was saying, there is a smoking gun. in those 3 million files that haven't yet come out. There's obviously a smoking gun, otherwise why wouldn't they release them? And that's one of his reasons why he thinks. Todd Blunt should never be attorney general. But I wonder. I can't help wondering if the fire has gone out of the Epstein files.

I don't think so. I really don't I, I just don't think that that is going to completely die. I think that every single time I open up my phone, there's some story related to it. And the the survivors and their bravery and always putting themselves in the news. They showed up to talk Blanche's confirmation hearings, and he's refusing to meet with them. And the Democrats need to do.

Do you think the Democrats did a good enough job of interrogating Todd Blanche? I didn't see all of it. But typically, I would say. the Democrat should be the first in line to get some of these low tea shots. And I'm a Democrat. I am a Democrat, but I wish that they would. get rid of their give effect meter and just start fighting. Their approval rating is low because they don't fight hard enough. It's.

not because people disagree with them, because they don't fight hard enough. And now is the moment where Andy Beshear is good a man as he is. He needs to go gangster. I was surprised during the top Blanche hearings that it was actually John. Cornyn who, as we know, has been primaried by Trump in Texas, but it was his dissection of the slush fund, the $1.8. billion fund that seemed to hang around Todd Blanche the most.

And then there was the moment when John Kennedy, senator. from Louisiana, asked him, are you a friend of Mr. Trump? And he goes, well, I'm his lawyer. I mean, I was his lawyer, I was his lawyer. I'm the acting attorney general. And you thought, oh, John Kennedy yet again caught someone else out. Do you remember when he went after Kristi Noem and just sliced and diced? Yes. When he said, you know, you spent quarter of a billion on that ad campaign, did Mr.. Mr. Trump know you were spending that money?

Yeah. And I'm sorry. I can't resist it. I love his accent. I love those southern accents. But he. got effectively he got rid of of Kristi Noem. And I can't help wondering if by accident I don't think it was on purpose. He managed to get Todd Blanche to trip on his own shoes. You know, I think that it's really you ring up a really interesting point. Republicans by nature, are they fight a little bit harder. And when I think about the people who are now disassociated from MAGA.

that are still Republicans, Thomas Massie, Marjorie Taylor Greene. Told me. leaving they seem to outflank. Democrats in their critique of Republicans. It's incredible. If you hear Thomas Massie or Marjorie Taylor Greene. talk about United States policy with Benjamin Netanyahu's government,

they outflank Schumer and Jeffries on this. And even though the Democratic Party, the base. that we are leadership, doesn't ever listen to the base at all. And so you have sometimes these very bad actors, I think, in Marjorie Taylor Greene or Tucker Carlson and some of the others. who end up outflanking Democrats. in their critique of Donald Trump. I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene went on some rant. the other day about the war in Iran and people being warhawks.

I mean, just completely eviscerated Lindsey Graham, that he was a war hawk, he was a warmonger and all of this stuff. And then all the Democrats are like, Cory Booker is like, you know, he was really a hero. Cory Booker referred to Lindsey Graham as a hero. I'm like, what are we doing? What are we doing here? Lindsey Graham was a piece of shit. Objectively, this is a man who, you know, was clearly gay. and ran a voted against gay issues all the time.

A complete Warhawk, homicidal, really? And we can't be calling him a hero. What are we doing? Okay, so you got a huge response to one of your posts. after Lindsey Graham died holding a drone. Can you just describe for us? Okay, so I was very intrigued when I got online. and somebody posted photograph and said, This is Lindsey Graham's.

last known photograph, and he was in Ukraine, and he's holding a drone and listener and viewer. The drone was black and it looked like a big giant penis. This is this is poetry in motion. Of course, MAGA loses their mind. Jennifer Welch said Lindsey Graham liked penis. I have so many LGBTQ plus friends, and I see from living in a red state. how closeted men, closeted Christian family, guy, Republicans.

ostracized, demean, diminish these people during the day. and then fetishize them at night. I don't know if you saw actress, James Rose on Instagram. She did a video where she and she has tripled down on it. She alleges that Lindsey Graham, she's a sex worker, paid her. a stack of cash, and Lindsey was wearing red lingerie.

She performed all sorts of sex acts on Lindsey Graham. Now, here's the thing. If Lindsey Graham's kinky and likes to wear red panties, I don't care. But when you're voting against gay stuff, then it's relevant. It is a relevant issue. He was in favor of the Defense of Marriage Act. Exactly, exactly. So he's, you know, anti-gay during the day and then doing a bunch of gay. stuff at night. And so I don't I mean, this whole idea that when somebody dies, we have to reinvent who they were is insane to me.

Like, Trump doesn't do that. He hated Robert Mueller. He goes after him. Now, I don't want to completely go after Lindsey Graham, but I go after him. just as much in his death as I did when he was alive. His death is not going to make me go, oh, he died. I can't call him gay anymore because. whether he's alive or dead, Lindsey Graham was a closeted gay man. Jen. Well, it's always good to see you. It is always good to see you. And you're about to go off on holiday. So I'm so glad we got squeezed onto your.

And I knew I had to I knew I had to I knew we had to reunite. We did. We did have to reunite. Jen Welch, thank you so much for coming into the studio. And I want to see you the minute you get back from Italy. Of course it will happen. Excellent. Thank you. Is there anything that Jen. Welsh doesn't have a strident opinion on? It's why I love talking to her. Because she's got such sort of lateral ideas and funny phrases,

from trickle down stupidity to her fascination. with how difficult it is to be gay in the evangelical community. And of course, they form Donald Trump's base anyway. I love having her on. She'll be back again soon the moment she gets back from her Italian holiday. If you have been, thank you for joining us. Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast. Don't forget to call our new phone number 92927435779292743577.

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