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Her husband just forced an election in humiliating fashion. The Democrats are going to go after every bit of the drift. Well, most Trump Trump's family and Trump's cronies. So Steve Wycoff, Jared Kushner the two sons or. or brothers Grimm as I refer to them and Melania, they're all in on it. Do they become even greedier? Now the clock is ticking. There is no way that they are not going to go after Amazon Jeff Bezos.

And from a week of questions with all the questions. Crazy thing about this is the country rejected. these people overwhelmingly. I'm Joanna Coles, this is the Daily Beast podcast. What a week. I feel like my own voice has dropped an octave. We've been talking about the incredible pushback. on Donald Trump that America gave him this week. I am here with the man who knows everything that's going on, all the minutiae of the Trump chaos and the Trump.

recrimination in the white House that's going on right now. Hugh Doherty, The Daily Beast executive editor, who has been working his ass off this week. In fact, even our producers who don't drink coffee have started drinking coffee. Yes, we are so determined to cover all this. Hughie, there's no time to waste. I want to get into Lauren Boebert. I want to get into Laura Luma. I want to get into Pete Hex. Is he going to be fired before the weekend? Will this what? Will he be fired before this evening?

What's going on there? Is Marco Rubio really resigning or not? He seems to be speaking out of both sides of his mouth. No surprise there. He's done that before. And we'll be talking about where Donald Trump is going. to show up for his interview. But first but first, ladies and gentlemen, something. Michael Wolff has been predicting for some time, which is that every time. you see the first lady out there, what is she doing? She's making content for her new documentary series.

It's a two parter. The trailer just dropped this morning. Feel free to go on to YouTube, watch it and leave your comments. A lot of people have already left comments. I literally failed to find a single supportive. comment for it, so perhaps people will be hate watching it. Huey, what do we think of the trailer? Should we play a little bit of it? I think we should play a little bit. One thing before we play that trailer. Joanna, I just want to see. Thank you to everybody who has joined the Daily Beast family this week.

Thank you to everybody who's already been in the Daily Beast family. The we have a direct number of people subscribing to us. We have had Joanna's amazing 4.5 hour. marathon, epic marathon, epic live action. So much fun. So much. Six and a half. I just want to see if you're not already subscribed, please join us. We are. We are heading to million subscribers. We have had a phenomenal week. And let's play the trailer. Let's play the trailer, people, get your popcorn,

settle back, and enjoy a new two part series. Everybody wants to be close to power and sometimes could be very dangerous. I'm a mother, a wife, also first lady. He's my priority. He will always be my priority. America deserves the best.

Their farms were destroyed. It's very devastating. The media, they want gossip. For me, it's noise. On November 20th. Experience new, never before seen moments. So what would you like to know? Melania the series on. November 20th only on Prime Video.

So what would you like to know? So much Melania. So much. We have so many questions. Many questions. I ask questions in your lawsuit with him, what would your top questions be here. Where will, you know, action night. Where were you on election night? Melania? Question number one. How do you feel about Natalie Harp, who was with your husband. on election night? And she said because he was she was screening his calls. She was screening his course. She was indeed. Maybe in case Melania was going to call.

Oh, yes. Good point. Oh, she said you are losing. Losing. She has priorities. I mean, it's those who do not want to watch this on Amazon Prime. We have Melania's voice right here. You do. You and I know the comments are going to be divided, of course, because not everybody likes it when I do my accents. But some people write in, they say Joanna's accents don't sound like. the person. No, they're not supposed to. They're supposed to simply draw. a comedic element to the podcast. But.

But I cannot wait to watch this thing. But other question how much money are you getting for this one? And, and I've got another one. Have the Democrats subpoenaed you yet? Because they're about to. Oh. Lawyer up. Melania, have you lawyered up? I think we've heard from Melania's lawyers over the years. Fascinating. And also, how do we feel about her. monetizing her experience as first lady when she's in the white House? In theory. But of course, she's never seen. She says she's first lady.

Are you, though, Melania? That would be my first question. Are you actually the first lady? And why don't you take your duties more seriously? Why are you the least visible First lady of this entire century? I think there's a profound questions there. The most puzzling thing about this, I have to say, is. Amazon have given her already. She has taken $10.7 million from Amazon and had to declare it. in her husband's filings.

Her production company was 17 million. Well, her production company got 28 million. My 10.7 went right into the Melania Bank. account or the Melania and Donald Trump joint bank account, I imagine. Surely as an old fashioned couple, they have a nice joint bank account, you know, checkbook. I think it's probably in. crypto, their bank account as well. Well, if it's Don Juniors crypto. Sure. Good luck with that. But there's presumably going to be another chance of of cash. But, the comments under this YouTube trailer are not charitable.

and not charitable to Amazon Prime and Jeff Bezos. We are showing some of them on screen. For those of you. who are listening on Apple or Spotify or wherever you go, get your podcasts. Because people are saying things like, oh God, this has got to be an early April Fool's prank. It's bad enough that we got a movie about this lady, but a limited series, it can't be real abut it can. Yes. Over can. And I really don't care.

Do you? Very funny, PC Frankie. That's a good comment. Okay, I'm going to cancel my Amazon Prime subscription, so we we're not going to waste of time reading comments. There are much better comments on our channel. People comment on our channel are fantastic. Particularly the Limerick writers. I just want to. Yeah, well, we have loads of poets on the channel. Big shout out to them. I love reading them. And but here's the most here is why are we talking about this? Well,

her husband just. forced an election in humiliating fashion. The Democrats are going to go after every bit of the grift. The thing that people said in exit polls when they were walking out. What are the issues? Cost of living, affordability, the economy. Not one big trunk of things depending on how you classify it and exit polls. and then said corruption, corruption, right. Feeling that people are making money. People are making money out of being in government.

Well, more specifically Trump, Trump's family and Trump's cronies. So Steve Wycoff, Jared Kushner, the two sons or Brothers Grimm, as I refer to them, and Melania, they're all in on it. It's as if they're all they've got their hand out. as much cash as they can get, and I wonder if that speeds up and becomes even. Do they become even greedier? Now the clock is ticking.

Well, you know, if you're doing a cash grab. and, you know, the caucus ticking, I imagine it's like Supermarket Sweep. where you get more ambitious when you're pushing, you know, you're pushing roads and Supermarket Sweep or guy's grocery games or whatever. I'm but this isn't a game show. This is real life. This is a there's a there's already a serious amount of money is going to Monia. There was no scrutiny. The Republicans weren't doing any oversight. And that's another aspect of this election. People said, all done, your job is to hold people.

accountable, to be a check and a balance on power. No. We have Democrats will determine that. They have already said some of the targets for subpoenas. Those targets already include Donald Trump junior. because of his are extraordinary business dealings. There is no way that they are not going to. go after Amazon, Jeff Bezos and Trump for this. are I'm going to say are extraordinary documentary. We've got we've got questions. We've all got questions.

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beast. And clearly they knew this was going to drop. Perhaps Milani in you. I don't know if Donald Trump knew, but but I tend to look at the world. through the lens of the seven deadly sins and of course, in their vanity and greed. And this seems like both. I was fascinated. by the fact that the picture of Melania on the front of the trailer. for the documentary reminds me very much of the. Patrick Demarchelier photograph.

Iconic photograph of Princess Diana in black and white. It was on the cover of a book. And of course, Melania loves the people that have gone before. Remember when she copied from Michelle Obama's speech? This is very much a picture. It even looks the hair even looks like Diana's hair. And yet Melania actually has fairly iconic hair herself. So a weird thing. And of course, using Brett Ratner, who was meted out of Hollywood.

and has shown up back in Maryland making movies with Melania, I was going to say that I, I'm not a female fashion person as you are. Joanna. I was getting a bit of Elizabeth Holmes. Oh, Elizabeth Holmes, because the blacks heard the neck. Which, you know, even unfortunate thing. But look, I'm we're talking about it not because this is going. to be a great piece of television. I think it's probably not just as a spoiler, but because it's going to be like long Instagram picture.

That's what it's going to be like, this long Instagram scroll, which is what the movie was. Right? And this is a lens into a family that is maybe not denials, not the right. term, but just, you know, sort of trying to go on as if nothing happened. And that's the weird. Her husband has had an even weirder week of, you know, I do as I say, no, denial is not quite the right term. But if we look at his week. What did he focus on? So Monday was pool D, he went to the reflecting pool.

and he ran to debate how amazing it was and how he'd sorted all out. and how badly Obama and Biden had failed. And he said $144 million they've spent on the pool and it's still not working. And he had some very specific pictures of of pipes. And, you know, and we all remember pool guy. who looked like Fat Tony out of The Simpsons. But funny enough, he didn't get a shot at it was funny that. But he did the pool on Monday. I Tuesday selection day, so, you know, maybe not about. Let's not talk about that too much.

But Wednesday, straight back out going round to his ballroom, looking at a beam. going up as if it was some sort of, you know, secret ceremony on Thursday. I'm unseen by television cameras because he banned them. He signed a an order in the Oval Office, which he says. will preserve the Oval Office in its current form forever. Among the things he said is it's a place of triumph. And that explains why there's gold everywhere. I mean, obviously the next president who comes in is going to tear this stuff off it.

He is signing an order that he claims will stop them from doing that, that only Congress can approve changing the Oval Office. Congress, of course, has approved none of his changes. And this morning he's got another one that Congress hasn't approved. He's got an official video of his new triumphal arch. Okay, grab your popcorn again. We're going to play you some of the video of the triumphal arch. This is a video that Donald Trump has just dropped. Let's just remind everybody the world is on fire because of Donald Trump.

He's failed to get a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine, which he promised on his first day back in office. He started a war in Iran. Gas prices are up. Inflation is not under control. Masked men are still going around the streets, arresting people and throwing them to the ground and splitting up families. And here is what your president having failed to well, having been,

as you say, widely humiliated, here is what he's concerned about today. I mean, look, look at this. What is he doing? I mean, golden light the names of states that he's lost or high or, one nation under God and wait for the next moment. The golden age of America. So is that what he is? Do you think this is one of those moments where it's a little bit like when Pete. Hegseth said they were going to stream live stream at the execution of this hood?

Yes. Killer. That that none of this will happen, that this is all a distraction. This is just to grab people's attention. I think it's to grab people's attention. I suspect, inside the white House. This is to try to keep him from throwing things at people. And they can get on with knifing each. other and peace and quiet while he looks at his videos. You know, they're giving their soothing, there's there's. also for those who cannot see this, you're being spared.

You know, you're being spared an ordeal in some ways. There's a lot of gold, and there is a sort of Lady Liberty. with a torch, except that she's also winged. And I don't know, it's that Melania's face. We can't quite tell. This whole thing. I mean, who runs a triumphal arch on the weekend and the week that you've got a defeat? Well, Donald Trump, Donald Trump doesn't see it as he doesn't see it as defeat. Right? He's like he keeps saying I wasn't on the ballot. This is about them.

It's not about me. I would have won if I'd been on the ballot. I would have won. No, no you wouldn't. You've been utterly incompetent as a president. We've been banging on about it at the Daily Beast, and now the country. has voted your people out. And not only if they had his people out. One of the things that people were saying was, we are sick of hearing from you. We are sick of you occupying your space and the airwaves and the time. And I know we are. You say we're hypocritical, we're talking about that, but.

we're talking about the madness of nuclear codes, and we're offering insight and analysis. He's just talking. He's just talking. He just wants attention. And on the subject of just talking, we also learned. what he's going to do to break his silence as Trump ever broken his silence. No silence for Trump to Prince. I'd never been any silence, but he's go ahead. We know that this morning at the white House, he is sitting down. with 60 minutes with their new correspondent, Ross Douthat,

a man who is from the right wing who's. been installed by CBS new leadership, Barry Weiss. as the supported star of 60 minutes. He has a TV news version. He has never done a television news interview of this magnitude before. He interviewed last week Mike Rogers, the Michigan loser, and, Abdul said the victor in Michigan. But on done nothing in this scale. He's going to go and sit down this morning with Donald Trump.

We'll see that in 60 minutes on Sunday. I mean, to be fair to Ross Douthat, he's done plenty of interviews. with people over the time. He's a perfectly experienced journalist. He's less experienced on television. And that's one of the things that Barry Weiss said she wanted. She wanted people who didn't have television experience to. And she doesn't have television experience. And unfortunately, that's been reflected in the CBS ratings. Yes. And, Trump obviously feels that. CBS has now a more friendly place for him than it has been in the past. The last time he was interviewed by 60 minutes.

was, of course, a catastrophe. Because he, you know, he went off, he went off the rails, basically. with Lesley Stahl, Lesley Stahl, the great Lesley Stahl, who. we had the great joy of honoring this week at the Daily Beast. Power 100, powered by Uber, our partner in this. She really is a beacon of truth and independence, and she talked a lot. about how disappointed she was that the ratings for 60 minutes had fallen off.

She felt that viewers had stepped away in protest. against the new ownership, and she very much hoped that people came. back, that she and her colleagues had spent some time deliberating about. whether or not to leave the show, but they felt so strongly about it. that they decided to stay, and she really urged people to. to check back in with them. But she is remarkable. I mean, her career has been incredible. The room was packed with people there to pay homage.

to her, and she's an incredible speaker. She's got a great sense of humor. and, well, it was just a joy to have her in the room. And she will not be interviewing Donald Trump because he, Donald Trump now is the people around him are clearly trying to insulate a bit. We are saying, yeah, let's go to the ballroom. We'll we'll help you out. Let's go and put up a video about your triumphal arch. that people will be really into that,

let's get you in front of 60 minutes. That's because he's a 60 minutes viewer. Let's just remember that, he is buying on the demographic that grew up with 60 minutes. He's watched it forever. Well, and I'm sure they were terrified of the idea of having someone older. than Donald Trump interviewing him because it will make him look so much older. Leslie is 84 and sharp as a tack. I think having her interview him would make him look terrible. I mean, Michael Wolff's been talking to people in the white House,

all of whom have said this week he seems older. Wednesday, he seemed older and quieter, and he's clearly been knocked by these election results. I think, the stuffing has been knocked out of him and you can see it, you can see it, and increasingly you can feel it, because around him we now have, a cabinet which has, you know, it's got people who are trying to get out. and it's people get people who are trying to stay in,

and there is one person as we know, as everybody knows that, that everybody thinks is target number one. It's Pete Hegseth that will come as no surprise. If anybody like. Who is he talking about? Who is he talking about? Pete. Pete Hex has had this extraordinary 24 hours. And it's still going this morning. He, you know, has overseen and pushed this disastrous war. JD Vance came out and said, what's the problem with the problem is the war?

And he kind of said that like, like, you know, I've got sucked in my way to work today. And you go, oh, the weather, it's a nightmare. He said, oh, this war is so bad. That war was started by the president, right? A choice of choice. And of course, for Pete, he pushed that war. He is supposed to be an acting it and this more. Yeah. Late yesterday afternoon he came out with his own video. Everybody's doing videos. He came out with his own video standing outside at the Pentagon, which,

of course you can see his preferred pronouns for it behind him. Department of War. Just as it is not the Department of War, it is Department of Defense. and only have its name changed by Congress. And he basically pleaded for his job. And we have got some of that here. This is not about me, but of course, the other side, in case you've noticed there, obsessed. a disgruntled defeated congressman, along with all his Democrat.

allies, has also dropped sham articles. of impeachment against yours truly, just like they tried against President Trump twice. You see, their policies don't work. So their obsession with political theater disguised as power. drives them to try to destroy their opponents. It's all about the politics of personal destruction. Didn't work against President Trump, and it won't work with me. You can rest assured of that.

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That's incognito slash beast. It's all about the. politics of personal destruction. Oh, Pete, it is. And it's your personal destruction, my friend. As you mentioned earlier, Joanna, he wanted a public execution. He got one. Oh, very good to live. I've. I've streaming and that's, you know, he. Here he is. This was obviously orchestrated probably by his wife, who is a former Fox.

News producer who we learned. this week is on the pitch, has been on the payroll of a defense contractor. It's disgrace. We also on the Griff. Yeah. And again, on the grift. He has been supported on Twitter by his father. He's enlisted his family. He's remember, he's got his emotional support brother who hangs around as well. And he's fighting to try and stay in the cabinet. And Trump has offered some. Let's see. I don't know if supports the right word, but we can hear Trump's own words.

Yes. When asked if he was going to get rid of Pete, here's here's how he defended his Secretary of War. Are you considering replacing Secretary Headset? No, I think he's doing a very good job. You don't want him to fail. Marsha Blackburn, sentenced to be appointed to. Well, I think I think he's doing a very good job. And I actually think he'd be very popular. if he did that, but I haven't heard that at all. So we know he's not doing a very good job.

They thought that the war was going to last 3 or 4 weeks, 5 or 6 weeks at tops, where now, in November, the war started at the end of February and there's no way out. The Strait of Hormuz is still a mess. People's energy prices are up, America is running out of munitions, and Donald Trump is calling round his band of advisers, the people that still take his calls saying, what do you think of hex? Which is a sign for I'm about to get rid of him.

What do you think? And in that, in that, response that Trump gave, he was asked a very specific question about Marsha Blackburn. Marsha Blackburn, is the senator from Tennessee, but she is. just won the race to be governor down there. And there is an opportunity here that she. then has to appoint a successor as senator. And. Hegseth has moved with his. very complicated family to Tennessee.

You mean three wives and seven children, three wives, three wives or seven children? You know, it's like, you know, I was going to see Band of Brothers, but, I guess they they run out of equipment. Pete was in charge, but, he moved to Tennessee. His his mega-church pastor is down there. He's from Minnesota. He used to live in new Jersey. This is not a guy from the South. This is not a guy from MAGA country. I he's kind of retreated to, you know, like a larger like the South Africans. The Afrikaners call it.

And he has clearly been jockeying to get the Senate seat. It would get him out of the Department of Defense. It would put him beyond the reach of subpoenas, and it would set him up right. We've talked about this before, quite possibly as somebody to run for president, because that's what he thinks. Do you think Marsha Blackburn wants to Texas? Then we are learning this morning, Joanna. That in. fact, Marsha Blackburn doesn't want anything to do with this.

Or at least her aides don't want anything to do with this. They don't need a toxic MAGA figure in a tennis in the Tennessee, but not see in in the Tennessee. See the Senate. She's she's got allies down there that she wants to give free. Verse two, she needs to build friends and everybody, everybody in the. or everybody in the Republican Party, I should say, is conscious that MAGA. got defeated, that the Republican Party obviously still exists here. We have one of the you know, the exists one of the one.

one of the few winning Republican governors. They don't need to go MAGA. They need to build outside. They need to build friends. They need to bring people in. And if you're in Tennessee, you're looking at a geography and going, hold on. Nearby are red to blue states. That could happen here. Tennessee has Nashville. Nashville is a large and growing city, and it has seen. a lot of people moved to Nashville. Rather like Hegseth, from Blue States.

Well, and it's a little bit like the Austin. It's a Austin is a blue dot in Texas. Nashville is the blue dot in Tennessee. And for years people said, oh, Austin. Austin says liberal blue dot Texas is red. Texas is blue. North Carolina state. Texas is blue. There's one person left. There's one Republican left in a law making role only. He's the only statewide selected Republican. Ted Cruz to your man. Oh oh, oh.

Who must be because he's up for reelection in two years. He's up in two years. Right. And I should think Ted Cruz is now thinking, oh my goodness, what am I going to do? Another dilemma for Ted Cruz here. He was clearly thirsting to run for president. But if Ted Cruz runs for president that Senate seat, would that Senate seat. becomes, you know, if he has to drop out Gina, he knows that could get in America at a point. Female governor. Yep. And if she doesn't get to point somebody, James Tower equal one by a margin.

That is absolutely huge. And do we seriously think that Republicans are going to get a new Republican. and that seat back and run? I mean, it's all Ted Cruz probably has to run for the Senate again. knowing that he might lose, but he's got the best chance of winning. The president might. Crockett would run for it. Jasmine Crockett, who lost in the primary to James Talarico. Yes. That was an effective congresswoman. Yeah, that's got to be. that's got to be possible because, also, clearly there's a blue uplift.

And she is not popular necessarily. with James Talarico because she kind of didn't endorse him. She was she. I mean, she didn't pull her. Haley. Stephen. She did not go full Haley. She she wasn't fulsome about. She was not. Yes. But here we have just to go back to Peter Hegseth. He thought he could do this chicken run to the Senate. He can't. No. He's like, you have to keep me in my job. But the thing that he's talking about is that next week, Thomas Massie has said.

he is going to bring those articles of impeachment in front of the House. of Congress, the House of Representatives. And he said he, Thomas Massie, is confident that he will get enough votes. That means that Republicans will vote. to impeach Hegseth, or that so few Republicans will turn up, that the Democrats will all turn up and impeach him. No. And then it goes to the Senate. Right. And this is even worse for Hague's, because the Republicans in the Senate. are there until January the 3rd and the lame duck.

There are some of them who just hit them. Thom Tillis has been out this week, very, very public. about his absolute despising of Pete Hague's. If an impeachment vote comes up, in, in the Senate. Thom Tillis hasn't said necessarily that he would vote to convict, but it certainly sounds like he would. Well, and he's got nothing to lose now because he's on his way out. Mitch McConnell. Yeah, I can still vote. Well, there'll be a lot of Republicans looking at this and thinking, I'm right.

Well, Bill Cassidy's outgoing, right. These are the outgoing, right. Tom Tillis going out. You've got Mitch McConnell going out. You've got a Bill Cassidy. Yep. And also you've John Cornyn. You've got John Cornyn. So you've got four who might well vote against him. You've also. and who are no longer going to be I'm sorry to keep interrupting you, but who are no longer going to be afraid of Trump. Right. I mean, the crazy thing is how afraid people have been. of this man who is the Wizard of Oz.

And on top of that, you've got Republicans who thought that they were assured. another term and who have not been assured another term, who've been kicked to the curb. John Huston got that round peachy ass of his kicked. He was weeping, when, you know, I know in Ohio. He doesn't always a thing, a thing. In fact, he has made that guy. He's a, you know, a long term Ohio politician. He's made him look like a weepy fool, like you were this hero quarterback. And. No, there's video of you weeping. But also, all of them know that nobody was a terrible idea.

All of them know it was a terrible idea. to rename the Department of Defense the Department of War. All of them were appalled, I think, when they saw Pete Hedges at lecturing the. the generals in his first date of the force speech and then in his second. one saying, no fatties, no beards, no weirdos, no trannies. I mean, you know, they all have service people living. in their constituencies who are appalled by this.

And we don't know what would happen if an impeachment, if articles of impeachment were to reach the Senate. But what we know is that it would be incredibly uncomfortable at the minimum. And if you're a Pete, what a way to enter history. You know, he first to be impeached and maybe to be convicted. That is I mean that's just a beyond disgraceful. end to anybody's political career. There's no coming back from that. Even for a man who, as Michael Wolff reminds us constantly.

Roger Ailes, the founder of Fox News, used to refer to Pete. Hegseth, who was, as we know, a weekend co-host, as Colonel Vodka. Colonel vodka was never even a cardinal. And I know every time we have mentioned that nickname in the comments. Yeah, people always say he was promoted. He was a promotion? Yes. Yeah. Vodka was in National Guard. Major new tabs. Pete. As our as our as Michael. Dearly. I discovered he was known as. I mean, no, Pete is kind of the tip of the spearhead, which is where he's always wanted to be.

Right? The tip of the spearhead of this attempt. to to to work out another act. The other person trying to work out another act is Marco Rubio. And he, as you said in the introduction, talking out of both sides of his mouth, there are leaks that he is going to resign. And then there is a denial in public that he would never think about resigning. But so what's he doing there? Is he trying to get feedback from people? He's he's trying to get his kind of circle of advisers to say,

this is the moment for you to go. You need to launch your own campaign. You've got to separate from Donald Trump and JD Vance. Yes. And it might be easier for him as secretary of state to go. than it is for JD Vance to go as vice president. Yeah, I think he's he's what in technical e b testing a b test. You put it out there and you see what one people react to better. And if I were Marco Rubio I would run for the hills, get back to. the Acropolis, get back to the Acropolis and do what you were trying to do before. Kimberly as interrupted, your best plans.

to essentially announce you were running for president. As I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted. a terrible election for my party, and Kimberly Guilfoyle. demanding her $100,000 Amex bill be paid off. And I want to give a shout out to Eric dieters, Eric dieters who came on the Daily Beast podcast and basically just showed us. how it was done, how Kimberly demanded money, how he was paying hundreds. of thousands of dollars for Eric Trump and Donald Trump to appear at his.

at his Freedom Festival in Kentucky. And by the way. Poor old Markel, of course, lives in Miami. And guess where Kimberly Guilfoyle has just turned off? She's turned up in Miami. What are you now? I wonder if she's trying to meet Bolsonaro. Oh, yes. Like Bolsonaro said, she's probably trying to. Boss's probably got some money stashed away. after she is. See, she is hanging out with her ex-husband.

Not that ex-husband. Her second ex-husband. I was going to say not. Not Gavin and not and and she was never technically married. to Don junior, though. She. They were engaged? Yes. No. As one of my colleagues pointed out, that she has an ex in every port, and she's docked with Eric Valency, her second ex-husband in Florida. and father of her child and father of her child. Yes. But poor old Marco. I, you know, he's. If I were Kimberly. Kimberly, can I just give you some advice? I would go down to Palm Beach and just start haunting Don junior.

Just start haunting him. Show up in restaurants, pay off. em maitre d to let you know when he's there and just turn up. Well, if anybody knows how to do payoffs, that somebody that 100 grand is off. Yeah, we should check back in with Eric Titus, because I do think he. I mean, this has been an election death by a thousand cuts, but he was definitely. a recent and relatively deep cut because he just went apeshit.

Yes. And, you know, we're talking about. these huge margins that Democrats ran up. We all know, you know, we all know the polls, but broadly right directionally. Right. In fact, they were you know, they were pointing to Democratic wave. They weren't pointing to the Democratic wave on the scale. It was. And it's up to historians to work out there's all the factors that caused it. But every day for the last, I don't know, three, four months, there has been another story that speaks to the issues about.

affordability and the issues about corruption. And every day has brought something. You're like, oh my God, I can't believe that Eric was amazing because it blew up and agreed. That blew up and the grift. And how many voters did it move? But ultimately, we don't know. But it it was part of the creation of this atmosphere in which people. are going going to vote saying, oh, the grift. Actually, I'm really offended by it. Holiday.

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and his major advisors were beginning to leak incredibly damaging stories. Yes. I mean, the Kimberly Guilfoyle story was a steady drip of poison. And then, of course, there was the the leak about Donald Trump's. wedding having been paid for by the, you know, an oligarchy and close connection to Putin. And even Donald Trump was embarrassed by that and said. Donald Trump Jr had to pay back the cost of the wedding party,

which Bettina, his new wife, had said, oh, lots of friends. Lots of people do this for their friends. They really don't know. They really don't. But your father was an adviser to Jeffrey Epstein. He was a financial advisor to Jeffrey Epstein. So we're not going to take your advice, actually. And we're not going to take your defense. of taking all that money for your wedding party. And then Don junior went hunting with this guy as well in Mongolia. Oh, yes. It's that an excuse to show. those wonderful pieces of Don junior with the Falcon on his arm.

and an absurd for hat, though I will say I've worn the occasional absurd hat. When you were hunting in Mongolia. No, never, never, never knowingly met a Russian oligarch. Oh, I have, but that's a different story. Oh, well, you used to work for one. I used to work for one. Yes. I would just say before people get at me in the comments. I worked for a newspaper in London called the Evening Standard, a great institution in the, in the capital of the United Kingdom.

And I was very proud of that Evening Standard. And in a rather bizarre turn of events, it was purchased by a Russian oligarch. who had been a former KGB station chief. And by his son. A flamboyant figure who, purchased this newspaper and sadly. ran it into the ground, I escaped. Without being stuck in a lag. But it was a bizarre, bizarre turn of events.

And my advice to anybody thinking about hanging out with Russian oligarchs don't. Well, I was going to say don't be near a window. Oh, yeah. Definitely don't, don't. It's always interesting to hang out with people on the edges of things, I think. And oligarchs are very much. if you're hanging out with somebody on the edge, don't go near the edge. Well, I was just going to say, yeah, don't go near the window edge. Anyway. So can we talk a little bit about some of those marginal figures around MAGA? Lauren Boebert, the congresswoman who looks like she's lost her. seat now in in Colorado, which was gerrymandered specifically.

Well, I mean, she moved to a different district. so that she could bring it home. The vaping groping congresswoman. Yes, from Colorado, who issued a statement saying today. Oh, well, I've got other things to do in my life. I'm a mom. I'm a grandma. She's very great. She's a woman of faith. And she's like, I'm a woman of faith. Faith to faith. Glory to glory. I don't know what that means. No, no, no. Lauren Boebert but what is the expression? Close the door on their way out. Yeah, right. Who cares? Go back to vaping in the movie house.

And it was Watsonville. Was it worse than vaping? What's worse than vaping? Well, it was an R-rated performance at that musical. Well, I was going to say it was Beetlejuice that she went to see. It was Beetlejuice. The music and it arousing. Anyway, Lauren, don't let the door hit you on the way. I tell you, what's not been aroused by in Lauren is, is a thumping election victory. Her she she's in the Colorado. fourth district, and, the margin between her and the challenger, Eileen.

Roback is so tight. So tight. She is behind, but point 9%. She. But I thought there was 1700 votes in it. Or last time I looked was 1700. There's a tiny, tiny number of 1700s, but there are still, of course, ballots coming in. And normally this doesn't matter. Normally, it's like it's all very fixed. The, the of course, the older member, Lauren Boebert, a classic election denier.

I guess what she's doing, she's going true to form. She's denying but true to form, in denial. Scott Gessler, her attorney, says we are investigating some very unusual. voting patterns and expect this election to head to recount one way or another. I don't know what it means. by unusual voting patterns that people voted against her. This this district, she had actually changed district. Her first district, people fell out of love with her. So she moved 300 miles across the Rockies.

Not district. As if perhaps nobody had heard of her. Exactly. I knew here you don't know me. Surprise. And which moved into the fourth electoral district of Colorado, which is on the west side of the Rockies. And, it was. it. Donald Trump won it 57 to 39. So 18 points. And right now. doesn't look it looks very possible that she's going to lose. and she's shouting cheat!

And an election denying she's actually so far. she's the only one that's called that's been shouting election denial. because this has just been so stunningly comprehensive. But she's going for it. And there is a danger here, of course, that she activates the Trump. crazies from last time, that she motivates them to think. that there is a cheat in going on, which we know there was not. I mean, the cause of election cheating have been so much fainter, though.

And of course, she. fell foul of Donald Trump because she was one of the three women. that demanded he released the Epstein. Yes. And it's a kind of it's kind of a funny, you know, sort of she's she's now. echoing his language despite having broken with him in the Epstein files. Is she MAGA. Is she not? You know, she's she's kind of out there alone, though. Well, and she was the one they took into the situation room. and apparently shouted at her and she was like, nope, these files need to come out.

Yes, I'm kind of, you know, but she could have had a moment there. where she reinvented herself as a sort of independent style Republican, having been slavish to Donald Trump, and she didn't do what Marjorie Taylor. Greene did, which was to leave the party and say, this is bullshit. You've done everything that you said you weren't going to do or what. Thomas Massie, who we were just discussing absolute Hegseth. moment, did, and he got primaried and who came out and topped there. You know, people look at Thomas Massie and see this a guy.

who has very conservative beliefs but clearly has moral clarity, something that people, when they went into the voting. booth were saying, there's no moral clarity here, right? It's bad. It's bad, you know, bad for the economy. But the corruption, the the lack of the work of moral clarity is a problem. And poor old Lauren Boebert. No, looks like she's peeing. She's being good. So she's paying an extreme price. I mean, let's be honest, she's got more. She's got other things.

She's got faith to faith and glory to glory. She's got a messy family life. She's just looking for something to do. And she's looking for another grift, I think. Yes. And you know, we're talking about these the marginal figures, this grotesque. that I mean, Victorian novelists have never come up with the cast that we've seen around. Well, I would argue with you. there, and I would just say that Dickens foresaw all of my favorites. Fair enough. Fair enough. I'm not even streaming. And he didn't have live. streaming YouTube Rumble Shores, and it's possible that even Dickens.

didn't come up with a character as grotesque as Laura, Luma or a Luma. I would challenge Dickens on that one. Yep. A lot of, I'm sure everybody now knows her name. She is a Maga. I do, you know what? There isn't even a word. Single word that encompasses what she's done. She's a social media troll. She has ear of the president, right? Whispers poison about people in his circle.

I was going to say, is there a word? Because she thinks she's an influencer. Right. And she certainly has had influence over Donald Trump. Absolutely has. And one of her. one of the things that she did was she sort of carved out a unique role. for herself because she would go through doggedly myopia, go through the social media accounts of people that Trump had around him. that he didn't heritage that were public servants, many of them. And she would find anything, even a like that they had made to another person's.

Instagram post or a Twitter, a Twitter post, and then tell Donald Trump. and and suggest a complete disloyalty to him, whereupon he would fire them. I think she's proudly responsible of 16 firings of people, because at one point or another, they had liked someone's and tweet. And she's got this weird name, right? Loomer LMER she post Womad. All right. As if it was a very there is there is actually trying. to be occasionally to those who do not know I'm Scottish.

I try and keep it discreet, but we've actually got a word Scotland, that has just sprung to mind. Yeah. And what is kyp client? A client LIPI think it's probably, like, probably. See. Right. A clip is an informer and a particularly mean minded one. Right. Well, and I haven't thought about that word since school. Right. But yeah, you're right. You're like. Well, Laura Loomer has is looming herself. She's a woman herself. She's had to cancel her podcast.

And, you know, obviously we're in the podcasting industry here. We wish no ill to other podcasters. Of course not. Of course. And yes and yes. Yes. And yet, she is live. She's not live. She's, twice a week on Rumble. Rumble. Was this free speech in quote marks network? Heavily propped up by by manga magazine billionaires. And she was on there twice a week. We do have a couple of.

We've got a clip, actually, of one of her hit shows. When she went to Guantanamo Bay with Hegseth. Oh, Lordy, lordy, let's play it. because we are hunting you like we hunted Al-Qaeda. in ISIS in the Middle East with the same networks. and the same intelligence and the same capabilities. And that's why we've seen drug flows in the water dropped dramatically. They're trying to find new roads. Doesn't mean they're going to stop. I mean, what fun to go with Pete Hicks to Guantanamo.

Can you imagine any and many in the major movement. No. Disappointed that they returned. Right. Couldn't they just have said there. So I think it's fair to say that Laura Loomer, despite her. closeness to the president and at one point. she was traveling with him on Air Force One. She's been and she's been in the Oval Office. She's been she's been omnipresent in some ways. And she's a close friend of Natalie Hobbs. And she and she has been very supportive of Natalie Harp.

and the other person supportive. Natalie Hart is Katie Miller, the wife of Stephen Miller, the deputy chief of staff, who is Michael Wolff? Revealed on Inside Trump's Head is in fact quite possibly off the island. But other than that, Loomer doesn't have a lot of defenders, because she she's gone after so many people. Well, she's also sort of a I mean, she was certainly. I mean, she got into a spat with someone this morning about the fact. that he said, you're just paid to to make your post.

And this I used to pay you. Yeah. And this was really telling because this guy, Alex Bruce, ran a lot of the Trump social media accounts. and the, the, the repost they retweeted, Laura rumors posts. So he is basically suggesting that when you looked in the past. on these Trump social accounts, they were not organic. She wasn't declaring, you know, if you go on social media, you often see a declaration that this has been this is a sponsored poster, you know, this post is brought to you or promoted by I, I don't know,

whoever you know, I am a company, an advertiser didn't say that. It looked like it was all a woman's opinion. She has a following inside the very core of the movement. So it turns out that was that was for sale and that Trump was buying. So we are getting an insight into, one of the things that I think, people thought was, oh, these people really are popular. They really do have that many likes. They really do have that many followers.

I think we're getting a bit of The Wizard of Oz behind the scenes here. Now, of this was paid for, this was purchased. These organic posts were not organic. And, you know, it's like I'm astroturfing, as they call it, this idea of fake, fake grassroots popularity. Oh, is that what it's called? Astroturfing? I didn't know that. What a brilliant term for it. Fake grassroots popularity. I love it. So Laura Loomer. actually issued her own statement, which I read only because it's hilarious.

I've been going nonstop supporting President Trump at real Donald. Trump ever since he came down the golden escalator. I've been running on empty for so long. Yes, you have Laura. Yes, you have. A moral vacuum is empty. So yeah, family, my personal life, my upcoming wedding, a healthy work. life balance, and just the act of having a life outside of my show. and my work have all been on hold, so I'm taking a hiatus. Yay!

Laura Loomer is taking a hiatus. She is recharging. She's refocusing on her personal life. She says her partner deserves more energy. Now, this is a partner that she said if the choice was between. her partner and Donald Trump, she would always choose Donald Trump. But now Donald Trump is a loser. Laura Luma is stepping aside. Yeah. So bad news, Laura. Lumos partner. She's going to be around a bit more often, and she says she deserves to be happy. We deserve to be happy together at this time in our lives.

Yes you do, Laura, and we deserve to be happy. But she reassures she'll still be watching us. Politics like a hawk. I'll still be paying attention, she says, fully supporting Donald. Trump, breaking news, commenting on news, doing research. And I'll be around. I will be present. I always am strange, but I won't be doing my show for a while. I'll be back when the time is right. I mean, what can one say? I was almost speechless, canceling her show because nobody was paying.

Nobody was paying attention. Also, we got hint here right from Alex Bruce. Nobody's buying her post. Nobody's paying. No, no, this is. this mica thing has all been a money train for so many people for so long. And the money train, it didn't just come off the rails. It went right into the canyon, like in some sort of, you know, Buster Keaton movie. So you know who else came off the rails? And he's only he was only elected or stay. Can we talk about our little man up upstate?

Anthony Constantino, who had JD. Vance have to go up and rescue Vance, win campaign for him? Don Junior went to campaign for him. And we should remind people this is a lease. Stephanie. Old seat. Yes. So we remember Elise Stefanik, who prostrated herself. for Donald Trump, and then he completely abandoned her. He promised her that she was going to get the UN ambassadorship. And then he gave that to Mike Waltz.

After Mike Waltz had disgraced himself by including the editor of The Atlantic. on a signal gate classified chain about bombing in Iran. I mean, an amazing reward for someone who was utterly incompetent. And Elise Stefanik, who'd managed to actually have a very effective, attack on the three university presidents. You will remember Harvard, MIT and Penn, right? Where she forced them to confront some things that had been going on.

on campus and actually drove out the president of Harvard and drove out. The president of Penn. has been left high and dry, so she's given up her Congress seat. And I'm sure he's hurtling herself into business in some way. If anybody wants to hire a man who would. Well, but if anybody did use on that. But yes, we've got news that we can come here. We can come to the future in a second. Okay. But can we just go back to Alex? I've just got to see. What I love about the MAGA world is there's no one would like it because,

one guy, accidentally includes somebody in a signal chat, and it's like, remember the butterfly wings causing a yes, causing across the world. And the chaos is just like it's chaos is just, you know, rippling out. And we have the latest reason, the latest part of this chaos, from, from the new congressman, from the 21st district of New York. We can't play the whole of his speech because it went on for 30 minutes. But we do have some some moments from it.

Listen, you scumbags telling people the truth, he can't even say what percent of the farm he owns. But you wouldn't say that because you're a bunch of fucking assholes. How would you feel if you just had to spend $17 million? Because you guys are a bunch of lying assholes. It's okay. It's a new day in America. Two. So you've got children in the audience here. I mean, actually, what is quite. clever is they've made up their flag behind him out of hard hats.

Yes, but it's not a very enthusiastic crowd for him. We've got similar star on his hat. My t shirt, actually. Oh, dear, oh, dear. Yes. If he's watching, he could tell me where he. He may be watching Joanna because he is actually Daily Beast reader. Thank you for reading Anthony Constantino. He read our story. And our story was, we'll put a QR code up as well. But a tiny Trump rep launches vile attack on young women. because as you heard in that clip, he was shouting asshole.

And among the people that he was shouting at about, he was attacking a 33 year old reporter up there. And Kate, Lisa, who he described also as evil. And, we reported on this. and he doesn't like our coverage very much, but thank you for reading. He does not have a challenge. Our characterization of him as tiny. Well, he is tiny. He is he's tiny and he's unfortunate. He does scraped in. He scraped in a district that Trump won by 20 points.

Well, actually, I have to slightly just tiny, tiny note there. He has claimed victory. The Democrat has not considered. and it does look like he's going it does look like it's going to win. But there are still postal, you know, mail. Oh interesting ballots to be counted. And the Democrats therefore are not entirely ruling out. That Anthony Konstantinos a congressional career. could be very short, very, very short as he is. Yes. And we got a picture of him up beside.

Mike Johnson, who as everybody knows, isn't very tall. And by the way, I just want to say I'm not particularly tall. This is not punching down. It's kind of pointing out the obvious, although it's. literally punching down in this case. Well, he's a little rocket man. He he he he sent us a very abusive text, I noticed and so or an abusive response. And I'm just going to say that at least to his predecessor, she managed to get into. a civil war with the failed Republican governors, governor, candidate.

for New York as well, Bruce Blaze and Bruce Blakeman, who retired last week. I was married to Nancy. She has no marriage currently. Yeah. And just totally out of the blue. Bruce Blakeman tweeted that at least the fan was lazy. At least the fan responded to him and she responded, I know this is a tough time and a tough in New York. and imagine it takes time to process. I will cut some slack as I have.

never lost any of my seven elections. Vicious. And it's kind of hilarious because, you know, if you're a Republican in New York, you're a bald man. It's like bald man fighting over combs. The how he smoked by. Kathy Hochul, the Democratic incumbent governor. She won two thirds to one third. And now they're all fighting with each other. And, and, you know, she's been succeeded by,

the, I don't know, the the Kim. Jong Kim Jong un of upstate New York. It's an absolutely extraordinary, an absurd prospect. It does have a serious thing, though, that anybody that wants to run. as a Republican next time round, that's your that's your allies. That's the supporters. That's what people are seeing on television and on their social media. They're not, you know, thinking, oh, those are graceful people who've responded. with, you know, with, with elegance.

And responding to this defeats self-reflection. Right. They're fighting each other well. And it's not the respect that you expect from public servants. No, no, none of this. We don't expect a public servant. And no disrespect is outfit, Joanna, but to turn up, for his election victory dressed in what appears to be personalized. So he's he looks like he's trying to emulate a rapper. Well, it's funny you should mention that, because he actually brought a rapper. who performed the rap at the end of the show, he Trumpy rapper,

a sort of, Temu Post Malone, right, who did a pro-Trump rap, a pro-Trump rap. Right? I mean, it's like Ali G or something. You can't you can't make it up. I mean, you cannot make it up. It's it's is this this is available if if the Trumps need a soundtrack. for their next, for the next documentary, I wonder if the Australian musician. whose soundtrack was used for the arch, the Triumphal arch video.

I think he's it's faded light is the band. Yes. I wonder if they've had their permissions asked for this. I find it almost impossible that an Australian would be okay with. because we have so many viewers and listeners in Australia. We get so many comments from people in Australia. I find it hard to believe in Australian would and especially a musician. Yes would be okay. So we are right now asking the white House,

did they seek the permission of Tristan Barton and his real name? He performs under that, under that name, Faded Light. Did Tristan Barton. actually give permission for his music. to be used on the video of the triumphal arch? It's possible that Tristan Barton is the kid. rock of Australia and wants to get on board. I don't think so. Just from listening to the music. I don't think so. But Tristan Barton, if you're out there, if anybody knows anything. about Tristan Barton, Tristan Barton Yorta Yorta in the comments.

Yeah. Of Yoshioka apparently. Please get in the. please get in the comments and tell us because we are really fascinated to know, is this yet another infringement of musician song by the Trump by the Trumps? It's it's totally possible. I mean, it'd be a fitting end to the arch that even the music, even permission. arch doesn't have permission and the music doesn't have permission. Yeah. And and Donald Trump no longer has permission. Trump. He's lost the Congress and he's lost. Well, he's lost the House and he's lost the Senate.

Oh my goodness. What a week. What a week we are. I think it's fair to say we're energized. And I am beginning to feel a letter. We just we were going to give a shout out 30s of indulgence. We've got a new coffee shop beside the office. We have a coffee shop. So I am a fan. It's called La Cabra, which is the goat, apparently. And. I will say there are long lines for it. The staff could move a little faster. Just a small observation. But this morning I had a sausage roll.

Well, a sausage in a croissant, which I'd never had before. It was delicious. And also cardamom bomb, which was again, incredible. And unlike everybody in the Trump's fear, they are not paying us. We we paid them. Yes. This is totally free publicity for our local coffee shop. It's 50 yards away, so we need to get the wait time down. Let's get the wait time down, guys, there's been a blue wave. Bring down the wait time. Yes, bring down the wait time. But it was delicious. And on the subject of wait time, I cannot wait for inside Trump's head tomorrow.

Yes, I'll be back side Trump's head, and then we'll be back with Doctor. John Gartner talking to us on Sunday about how will Trump. He's he's a psychologist doctor John. He's going to tell us how people like Donald Trump, who he calls a malignant. narcissist, that's his actual diagnosis for him, cope in defeat. How will he spin this? Will he get worse? Will he get nasty? Will he bully more or will he actually, some people in his office. told Michael Wolff, get quieter and, you know, just focus on the projects.

that he actually loves. Anyway, Doctor John will have his diagnosis, Michael will be back tomorrow, and of course, he'll have things to say about the Melania Trump series. And, I want to give a. shout out to the Daily Beast staff who this week have done a sterling job. Everybody has been working so hard to bring you up to date the results. And I think, as importantly, the reaction to the election results. by those who lost and of course, by those who won. And I wonder if we should go out, actually on a clip.

of John Ossoff talking about the grift. And it's. hard to get people to connect to the Griff because some of it's complicated. Inevitably it's complicated. But he seemed very much on top of it in this clip, which actually I, found on Michael McFaul, the former Russian ambassador, the American ambassador to Russia. And, he surfaced this clip for me. Now, maybe you saw Trump so desperate he's begging Putin for diesel.

But listen to this. At the very same time, the white House is brokering the sale of billions in Russian energy. assets to people who fund the Trump family and the Trump campaign. We're talking all fields, refineries, gas stations all over the world to be sold to the First Family's. cronies in a deal brokered and backed by the US government.

Y'all remember Jared Kushner, the president's son in law, the so-called special envoy. responsible for diplomacy with Russia and in the Middle East? Do you remember the other special envoy, Steve Wycoff, who co-founded the president's crooked crypto business world? Liberty? Okay, so follow me through on this. What Jared and Steve are doing right now. is negotiating with Putin to sell billions in Russian oil.

fields and refineries and gas stations to the president's friends. I thought the two most powerful words, Hughie on Tuesday. night came from Robert Garcia, head of the oversight committee. The congressman who will be head of the oversight Committee. Come the new Congress lawyer up. If you have been. Thank you for joining us and a big. thanks to our production team, John Romero. Then there's Ryan Murray, there's Benji Wilson, Rachel Parsa, Heather Pissarro and Neil Rosenhaus.

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