ALL TWINS ARE BAD ft. E.R. Fightmaster
Obviously, we know you're a Gemini. I. already knew that about you and that. you're from Cincinnati, Ohio. >> Okay. Listing my disabilities. [laughter]. >> That's crazy. >> Hippa. >> Hey everyone and welcome back to another. episode of the comment section show. starring me, your fave. Who cares about. me? Who cares about me? On to the guest. Today we have another iconic all-star, the legendary, the multi-talented ER. fight master. Woo!
Welcome back. >> That felt nice. H I bet that's what I. do. I just jerk everybody off just in. the beginning. Just a little and then I. want kind of to be torn apart. >> There you go. We got to edge. >> This is a take down. [laughter]. >> Build you up, take you down. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm so happy to have. you back. >> Um I have only grown more and more. obsessed with you in our in our absence. from one another. like watching you all. year long, you know, getting getting. your book, [laughter].
listening to your book. I chose to. listen. >> That is true. >> Because I wanted to hear your voice. [laughter]. >> It was horny if you haven't heard. >> And we miss each other. >> It was horny because it was activism, but it was like, >> which is funny because when I've heard. my my voice, I feel like I sound a. little cornball. Oh, but I don't feel. like that when I hear my voice in other. things. Just in my book, for some. reason. I I don't ever need to hear my. voice and I have chosen only careers in. which I'm gonna hear it all the time. [laughter] And every time I hear it, I'm.
like that's that's [ __ ] gross. >> You were telling me that you've narrated. audio books and you've done audio. erotica. >> I have. I've done audio erotica and. which was hard. >> It's fun but it's hard. And you you know. talk about like feeling like a cornball, [laughter] you know. >> That's what I mean. Are you doing Foley. at the same time? Like [laughter]. >> if you're like. You're spanking. You're like. >> I mean you'd be surprised. Well, it is. weird also because I was doing it with. someone who was like they're in my ears.
>> Headphones. Okay. >> It's like I'm listening to this like fem. with this gorgeous professional audio. voice and every once in a while like. she'll have a line of dialogue and it'll. come into my ears and I'll be like. [laughter]. >> forget where you're at for a sec. >> Yeah. But the noises that like I make. when I'm like turned on are like. [laughter]. they're certainly not. >> they're not registering the same way. >> No, [laughter]. >> I'm acting. It's the hardest acting I've. ever done. >> I bet. And then you narrated someone.
else's book. >> I did. I narrated Corey McCarthy's book. um with Man of War and it was this like. book about this trans kid in Ohio. And. that was hard because it's three days in. a cave as you know for like 10 to 12. hours a day. And like I was telling you, they like you're you're reading for. somehow two hours straight and then. suddenly someone be like, "Hey, can we. stop you?" Like that's actually not how. you say sizz. [laughter]. And I'm fully like. I [ __ ] edit it out. [laughter].
>> Hey, fix it in post. I want to keep. going. I I don't I would I did start at. the end of it, you know, you go kind of. insane and at the end of it I was kind. of like, well, why don't you just why. don't you just say it and we'll dub it. in. [laughter]. >> Yeah, you go and take over for me then. Why don't you do that? Take the. reinspip, Angela. [laughter]. >> I don't care. >> What's funny is when I did mine, I had. the producer, she was great, too, in my. ear, and she did stop me a few times. I. think the hardest part was when they.
were asking me if I could record some. laughs. Every time they ask me to do. that, they have to be forced, which. inherently makes them corny. So like, yeah, >> the amount of times I've had to force my. own cackle. And it doesn't sound. anything like my real laugh, but I just. kind of have to give it to them. >> Fake laughter is like it's so much. harder than fake tears. I know it's. really, really hard. Especially cuz like. my own laugh is like it's a honk, [laughter] you know? It's like a honk, like a ha and then a [laughter].
>> You don't want that. >> Yeah. They're like, "Yeah, that looks. gross. Um, can we try a different laugh? >> Let's do something fun, natural, something a human would do." Like, [laughter]. >> think regular human laughter. Can you do. that? >> Think less boat, more person. [laughter]. Well, you are a successful actor, which. we didn't really get to talk about last. time you were here because we were in. the middle of the strike and we were. being good noodles about it, >> but we didn't really get to talk about. your acting career, but I am now. venturing into acting.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. This year, that's my new thing. this year. I'll tell you about some of. the reads I've been doing after we get. off this episode. They can't know that. yet. >> Are you doing self tapes? >> Yes. And I was I would love tips on self. tapes because. >> How are you holding up? >> Something talk about corny. Yeah, >> nothing feels more corny than me. recording in my own home. I I literally. told my fiance cuz he had to help me run. lines the other day. >> and I felt like I told him I would. almost rather just go onto the set and. just get started because like doing this. is like so much worse. >> 100%. They are so hard and.
>> they're relationship destroyers. [laughter] I I like I in my last. relationship I had that person reading. lines with me all the time and somehow. it always was like we we literally. imploded. You know what I'm saying? >> Like a fight. >> This this time I would never let my. partner [laughter]. >> do it. I'm like I want this to work. >> Yeah. This for the sake of our future. Yeah. >> We can't run lines together. >> because it's the same thing. It's like. you're trying to get it's the same thing. as like the being corrected on your. pronunciation during like audio erotica.
[laughter] where you're like I am trying. to enter a flow state and you're and. you're saying stuff like hey do you want. to they have an and there do you want to. pick that up or like and you're like. we've been recording for four minutes. and you're going to stop my ass because. of an and [laughter] get out. I'm. starting fresh. >> Guards seize them. >> Yeah. I I that's how I felt too. And I I. just feel it's funny cuz when I was. running the lines with my fiance the. other day, I felt like each pass at it, he was getting more animated.
>> Yeah. >> And I was like, "Hey, can go ahead and. dial that back for me." All right. You're off camera. Yes. All right. Let. me let me [laughter]. >> And then you hurt them. >> So you're you're trying to outshine me. >> But you can feel that that for the right. person or for the wrong person really. that they're like, "Okay, fine. D. [laughter]. >> No, you can bring it back up." Yeah. No, it's so hard. It's so hard and we really. have lost the opportunity as actors. unless you're like at the very end of. the process to go in front of these.
people. >> like physically. Yeah. >> And I think it's so important like. because my iPhone is not capturing what. like what a TV camera can capture and so. I'm over here looking 5'7. [laughter]. >> You know what I'm saying? And and I'm. lit in my home. I'm not a I don't do. lighting. So, I look like I'm wearing. like a brown mask on this side. This. side is completely blown out. I'm 5'7. I'm upset. Like, you can see a shark.
painting in the background. Like, all of. it is taking everybody out. And if I can. go in the room, >> also it would prevent people from. sending me these sides that are like. absolutely like demure secretary. And. I'm like, I won't I assure you I won't. even fit at your desk. [laughter]. >> And if you had me in the room, you'd. know that, >> right? No, for real. I I started doing. my slate. I started doing it next to my. office door so they could see like how. big I really am because I.
>> sometimes I'm like, I need you guys to. visually see. I am a big [ __ ] So, like, >> if you're putting me across from a man, it's got to be a tall one. Like I'm. being so serious cuz I I stand next to. the door frame so they can see just how. tall I actually am. >> It's hard for tall women. >> I know. That's why I I did one thing, one like commercial thing, but it was. like a social media commercial thing. And I remember telling them, I am tall, so like if that matters optics, cuz I. knew there was a guy in the commercial, too. >> And they were like, "Okay, yeah.". >> And I was like, "I I genuinely mean.
that. I am tall. So if your styling. factors that, like I would keep that in. mind." They were like, "Okay." They gave. me like a tall boot. So I was probably. like 6'3 when I got on the set. Uh and. then when I got on, he's 5'6. >> So then they had to get they they made. me stand in socks and then they gave him. like two little platforms so that we. were like. >> you a hole. [laughter]. >> They made me stand go on my knees and. then put shoes under my like a little. rascal. >> Oh man. Oh yeah. I've done I've done. like sex scenes where they had the actor.
stand on an apple box and this was a. woman but they were just like, "Hey, it's looking scary." [laughter]. >> Which is weird because they like that. dynamic with heterosexual couples. They. they like it. And I think they're always. like trying to figure out how like. especially with like a like this was, you know, especially if you're like a. non-binary person like in these. relationships with women. >> They're trying to figure out how not to. fully alienate an audience while turning.
them on where they're like, "If you look. gigantic, that's too scary. But we do. want you to be taller because you're the. man, but you're not [laughter] a man. Like you're the you're the boy. >> You're the boy. You're kind of like We. [laughter] kind of want like. >> Oh gosh. We kind of want like Pete. Davidson but with like nice little tits. [laughter]. >> Do you see what I'm saying? >> But he boy so boy tall, >> right? >> You not boy so you not tall. >> Right. So there are going to be rules. And I hope you write this down. [laughter]. >> No. I'm so glad I I do not envy you for.
like having to go out and stand next to. men because the Do [laughter] you. remember? I don't want to [ __ ] drag. anybody. So, I'll say it positively. Do you. remember that movie Tall that was on. Netflix? [laughter]. >> Oh, the Tall Girl. The worst thing that. could ever happen to her in her life. >> Like when they were fully like she is. tall. Like it's demented, right? [laughter]. >> Look at this freak. >> The log line being like de demented. freak tries to survive [laughter]. and you find out it's like a beautiful.
511 blonde woman, >> right? Cameron Brink. Okay. >> No, for sure. She's but like Cameron. Brink looks like her and then they're. like. >> and look at this circus freak. >> It's a story of survival [laughter]. of ad adversaries fighting against the. enemy. >> And like the big I I don't even I don't. think I made it all the way through. because I was like, you know, projecting. too much onto it. But like [laughter]. like a big turn is that she is able to. like bags a man that's short and like. doesn't hate her for her disgusting.
size. [laughter]. And I'm I'm watching like this can't be. this. I guess this is honestly what. these studios think about us. >> Yeah. Tall straight women or just tall. people in general. Yes. >> That are not men. >> Like a studio, but there are so many. ideas that creator friends of mine have. that they're like, "No, that sorry, that's really complicated." And they saw. this idea and they were like, "We love. this. This really cementss how we feel. about women. [laughter]. This is this story needs to be told.".
>> Yeah. They're like, "That's a story of. resilience. Sure, but have you ever been. a tall girl?" Yeah, [laughter]. this. >> does actually know what it feels like to. be a tall girl. >> This is the only DEI that will survive. [laughter]. >> Yeah, for real. They're like, "Well, see. now we can't get rid of dii because then. tall girl.". >> Yeah. What's going to happen to tall. girl? >> What's going to happen to the tall girl? I remember in the in the movie too, I. know she says like she had like a size. 11 shoe or something like that, which. honestly is not even that big for. >> petite ass. >> Yeah. For being a tall girl, that's not.
even really that big of a shoe size. >> Uhuh. My feet are pretty small for how. tall I am, which. >> you would think is like, oh, petite, but. it makes my feet look like pegs, and I. hate that [ __ ] Like when you when you. have Bratz dolls and you take the feet. off, that's what my feet look like. >> You're falling over. >> Yeah. I was like, I would rather them be. a little bit bigger, so they balance my. proportions a little bit better, but. >> whatever. I remember one time I was I. had in college, one of my roommates one. year was a basketball player and she was. like 6'5. And so I for Halloween one. year, she had text me and said like, "Hey, do you think I could borrow some.
of your like Converse for my Halloween. costume?" And I was like, "Yeah, I. wouldn't care. Like, what size are you?". And she told me she was a 13. And I was. like, "Oh, I I'm sorry. I I'm not a 13.". She cuz she's like, "I'm a tall girl.". So she assumed I'd have bigger feet. And. she's like, "What size are you?" And I. was like, "I'm a nine and a half. >> You're a nine and a half?". >> Yeah. >> She was like, "What the fuck?" And then. she was like roasting me for having such. small feet. See, I did get pissed, [laughter] too. >> So, I was like, "All right. All right. Not too much on me. >> I would keep it private." [laughter].
>> Not too much on me, girl. Jeez. >> Uh-uh. No. No. That's That's a little. secret that you can have. [laughter]. >> I was like, "Don't tell anyone. You. don't need to be flexing in that way.". >> But do you have any tips for me for self. tapes? >> Dear God. I mean, like my my memory has. gotten truly since since like COVID and. we were locked inside the house and I. spent that whole year like. no one's I don't think anyone's ever. died from weed, but I got really close. [laughter]. >> Oh, but I was testing that limit, that's.
for sure. >> Yeah, they were doing that during too. [laughter]. >> Yeah, I was getting flown out. Um, no. After I really destroyed my brain that. whole year, I it takes me like five days. to learn the script, which it never did before. But being the. most off book, like truly truly having. like a couple of nights to sleep on. those lines so that you have the. opportunity to play. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? So that. [clears throat] the recall recall gets.
in the way of your flow state. >> Yeah. That's so true. That's crazy you. say that. I just said that to my fiance. yesterday, but go ahead. >> It's true. It It really is true that But. no, that's that's the realest thing. I I. like I always want I never I I just. directed a short film. And like one of. the things I said to my actor was like, I just want you to have all of these. words in your bones because I actually. don't know what I want from you yet. And. I want you to show me what you want. >> and then I'm going to tell you what I.
want and we're going to meet somewhere. in the middle. And I can't do that if if. you're like, "What is it?". >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah. Like trying to remember it. Exactly. Yeah. Well, that's I'll ask you. a question about directing in a second. But that's really such a good point. because I was telling my fiance the. other day like because the way I learned. in school because I have a photographic. memory, so I like imprinted on my. eyelids. So I I just read it a million. times and memorize it. But I was telling. him I was memorizing in the beginning. when I would get scripts. I would.
memorize all of my lines, but not. necessarily the flow of the conversation. or what exactly they're trying to. accomplish, what they're trying to talk. about. >> And that was like easier instead of. remembering them verbatim, just. remembering the flow of the conversation. so that I remember what to say when and. how to say it kind of deal. >> That's that's probably really smart. like just like in the you know next to. their line putting their even putting. your own emotion while listening because. I do think that if you get really I if I.
know what they're going to say there's. almost a part of me that is forgetting. trying to forget what they're going to. say so that I can be like oh [ __ ] my. response. >> and then I just pick ahead of time. >> like. >> you know I'm picking this arc for myself. and so like when I was on grays this. whole arc was like I have a thing to. accomplish. and and here's this little woman who's. like helping me accomplish it but like. she's stealing all my attention. So even. the way that I held my body towards her. was always like here's my work and here.
I am coming to you like with only my. head like you know what I mean just like. my body language being like you are. pulling me away from something you this. so it feels magnetic and I think when we. >> you know we had great chemistry anyway. but there were those like I I even did a. thing on the show where I stood mostly. with my hands behind my back because I. liked the idea of needing having a. physical restraint. >> Yeah. you know, and all of these like. these I think that.
>> you know, you're never saying I I'm. rarely saying a line that fits in my. mouth perfectly. Yeah. >> Because it's I didn't write it. >> Exactly. And it's not you saying it, >> right? So I have to I the thing that I. rely on is my body language. So that the. person who's watching me, whether it's. on a self tape or on a screen, is not. even really listening for what's being. said. They're they're watching me. deliver it with my like magnets. Ooh, I. love that. I'm going to use that. >> Do it. >> I'm for sure going to use that. You're. an established actor. I'm not. [laughter].
>> But no, I I appreciate all the tips. All. my actor friends have been asking for. tips. uh because I think it is in the. subtleties and also it's like one of. those I feel like as I'm going through. the very infancy stages of doing acting. um some of my friends have told me too. that sometimes it's like casting. directors or people will have like very. >> solidified ideas of what they think this. character looks like. But if you. approach it that way they can put your. face in there like they it's easier for. them to let go of what they pictured and.
see you in that role. Yes. >> That's why I love that. It's true cuz. I've worked in a writer's room and the. and it was so helpful to me to work in a. writer's room because you get to be. involved a little bit in the casting and. so you do you spend months creating. these people that actually can never. really exist like they're never going to. exist in the exact same way that you. have them in your head. Your script goes. through so many network notes and. changes before it ever gets to TV. >> Yeah. >> And then when you go through the casting. pro process, we are looking for anyone.
we audition to be the answer. Yeah. >> So, I used to go before I was in a. writer room, I would go into a lot of. things being like, "Maybe they do have. something in mind. Like, maybe this is. what they want me." No, no, no. They. want you to be the right fit and they. would love to be surprised. Are you. kidding me? Like, I think casting. directors also get so excited where. they're like, >> "We didn't even think about this angle.". >> Yeah. That's so tea. And this it's this. is so like silly comparison but not um. when I've seen like John Chu talking. about casting Glenda and he was talking.
about how like when I heard Ariana. Grande wanted to try I was like already. in my head I was like I'm not picking. her cuz I don't want to pick a big name. I I don't want it to overshadow the. thing but like I'll give her the shot. But he was like in my head though I had. already decided I'm wasn't going to pick. her and she specifically asked like can. you please not see me as Ariana Grande? I want to come in like as like a normal. person and you just audition me. And. when he he said when she came in she. like came in with none of her normal. makeup, none of her normal hair and then. he had no choice but to imagine her as. Glenda cuz she like made sure to like.
change his mind with how she approached. it. So that's T cuz she changed his mind. like you just said. >> Well, and it's so weird because actually. it's the same advice I would ever give. like a young person when they they're. asking about how to be in the creative. field. It's like the thing that makes. you special is that you are one of one. >> and actually all of us are one of one. and there are for sure going to be. actors that that really fit a mold and. so they're going to do this this same.
type of role over and over and over. again and I think that's awesome. I mean. truly really like admirable to like nail. that thing. >> that is e like easily consumable. >> Yeah. But I'm not easily consumable and. neither are you. And that's the thing. that makes us taste so [ __ ] sweet. >> That's true. You know, okay. Terry, look. at you. >> We are really the sour candies of the. industry. Like, >> yeah, that's so true. >> You know, not everybody's going to love. us, but the people that love us, we are. the only thing that they buy. And. [laughter] so, I'm like, I'm not trying.
to be licorice because no one is ever. going to think of me that way. >> That's true. And I even said to my team. recently, I was like, I was getting. offers to audition for things that were. like, we're looking for a woman or. >> anything else. [laughter]. And I was like, okay, I thank you for. sending me this. This looks really. exciting. >> Yeah. >> If they're looking for a woman or. anything else, they're not looking for. me. >> Right. Exactly. >> They're not looking for me. It's more. realistic that if if you send me out for.
something that's we're looking for a man. and we're open to things that I might be. a really pleasant surprise. >> Right. Exactly. >> But I'm not delivering traditional. femininity in a way that. >> that casting director is probably. looking for. And even the the version of. non-binary that they're looking for is. probably more fem presenting. >> Um and so you just have to get kind of. re you got to get real like I know I. know where I fit and I'm trying to be. authentic. Yeah, that's so true because. even the few times I've talked to my.
actor friends about like uh reads or or. things I've done um sometimes I'll get. reads for stuff which it's obviously a. woman a lot of times she's like in her. late 40s. >> Okay. >> And I was like okay so you're you're. auditioning one young hot person and. then everyone else is 40. Love that. [laughter]. >> It's normally someone who's like you. know she's like confident, she's loud, she's whatever. And I I'm like, "Okay, cool." Um, but some of the auditions. I've done, it's it's become increasingly.
more clear that they I wasn't the kind. of loud that they were looking for. And. that wasn't exactly how I was playing. it. Like I wasn't playing it like over. the top. Like I was kind of. >> I was kind of leaning back a little bit. just and showing it in other ways. And. that's not what they're looking for. clearly because they, you know, didn't. give it to me. Uh, but I have to assume. that they're looking like if I had. written a character that was a Drew Aalo. type. Aal tell me how to say it. >> Aalo. >> Awalo. Thank you. >> You nailed it.
>> Thank you. >> Um, if I was looking for a Drew type, I. would bring you in and if you gave me a. really subdued Drew, I'd be like, "Ah, fuck." [laughter]. You know what I mean? Like, so there's. there's part of that, too, is like I. will ask. >> It's like a balance of it. >> It is. It's you don't want to be a. caricature of yourself and you don't I. think a lot of people think that the. trick to acting I've seen this happen. with a lot of comedian friends is like. they get into the acting space and. they're like I know what acting is. It's. when you like suck all the joy out of.
your ass and you are really still. [laughter] and like I've definitely. fallen into that. I've I've had my. moments where I've seen that like where. I've lost my little spark. But. >> I I I think I think they do want you and. they can always tell you to tone it. back. But if I see somebody and they are. really subdued, it's harder to imagine. them popping. >> I'd rather see somebody pop and be like, "Okay, that was f that was so fun.". Yeah. >> She's a little bit more calm. Like. everything that you're giving me, but a.
little bit more grounded, >> love. And you've said you've worked in. writer rooms. Obviously, you've been. acting and then now you've directed, too. Do you have a fave? Any one of. those or one you lean a little bit more. towards now? My favorite thing to do is. probably. music, >> but acting I do really love. I And I. love it in part. >> And you're fantastic at both. So, >> thank you. I I feel the the thing about. acting, this is a really silly answer.
[laughter]. >> It's there's an ease to the existence, right? And it's not it's not what people. think. It's that. >> like, you know, we're multi-hyphenets. always with acting. You do get treated a. little bit kinder cuz they you're an. asset. >> and they need you there and they need. you here at this time and then they like. they have this really ridiculous. understanding that actors who I find are. that are often the smartest people in. the room. They have this understanding.
that actors are complete morons and like. should be owned by the state. [laughter]. And so they they take you everywhere on. that golf cart. They are driving you. around like you could not possibly know. how to walk. [laughter]. And I am in the golf cart being like. >> I know sometimes when you're on stuff. like that, you're like offering to help. do things and they're like, "No, no, no, no, no, no. Sit down. Sit down. >> Sit down, idiot." [laughter] Don't touch. that. Sit down. >> It would be like a toddler helping with. the dishes where you're like, "No.". >> Yeah. [laughter].
>> No. >> Okay. Thank you. You're a great helper. Thank you. Go ahead. >> He's such a big help. [laughter] But. they're all really they all inform each. other. And the the thing that I it makes. me you know like you talk about it like. we're like the sharks like if we set up. someone we die. >> Yeah. >> The thing that is really driving me is a. curiosity about how to make the best art. possible. >> Totally. >> And writing helped me understand casting. >> and helped me understand directing. And.
directing helped me take a script that. was not mine and make changes to it that. needed to be made. and understand that. when I get network notes, I'm not being. personally insulted on my writer's. script. You know what I mean? Yeah. And. writing being in a writer's room helped. me understand really acting better. So, they're all informing each other in this. way and strangely comedy is the thing. that has helped me best understand music. >> because with music here you are in front. of a live audience and.
>> anything can go wrong at all times and. only. >> comedians can handle that. That's true, too. Like adapting, right? Like being. able to pivot. >> My god. >> And obviously you love music the most. Music's your face. >> I do. I do like it because it's the only. thing that I own. >> Yeah. Okay. That's. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's yours. Your hard work is. yours. >> Yeah. You spend so much time in a really. lovely way. It's like such a journey. You get to spend so much time. helping others create their baby.
>> Yeah. >> And then the music. like you said. Yes. You know what I feel. like? I feel like one of those um. >> those nannies that have children at. home. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Raising your kids while you're raising. someone else's [laughter]. >> 100%. And I and I love these kids. >> But I am neglecting my [laughter]. >> That's so true. So true. That's true. Cuz I. unfortunately uh need to live. So there. is that. But I know you've been touring. your music. Yes. >> How do you like tour?
>> Touring is fun. I mean, you get to be. with people again. Like, I bet you felt. that way with the book. >> Yeah. Live performing is really fun. I. hate the logistics of touring itself, but live performing is always fun. >> Yes. >> It's like traveling though. I've told. everyone they're like, "You don't like. to tour?" And I'm like, "No, cuz I feel. like I'm on the run.". >> Yeah. >> Oh my [laughter] god. >> I feel like I'm on the lamb when I'm on. tour. >> Needed somewhere all the time. Yeah. >> Yeah. and that you really something is. expected from you all the time. >> and not everybody.
>> understands that. Just you need 15. minutes or you'll kill them. [laughter]. >> I just I actually just need 15 minutes. or you'll be dead. >> Please. >> Yeah. Get out. Go [laughter] away. >> Dude, on tour I literally was like, "Yeah, my faith is being tested for. sure. Like my relationships are being. tested." Because when I did my book. tour, I me and my sister toured. Um we. did our podcast, but it was promoting my. book. And so it's like live performance, book signings, like meet and greets,
like the whole shebang. But because I. rolled deep, I like took I took both my. parents. I took my my man, my sister, my. cousin, my assistant, my brother-in-law. was security. Like I took so many. people. There's probably like 11 or 12. of us on a bus together for like a month. straight. And half of us haven't really. stayed together like that. So we got. close. And we got close quick. Like we. had it was like after week one I was. like it's starting to feel like Survivor. a little bit. No one's been voted off. the island quite yet but we are. barreling towards that. >> I could feel it.
>> And we're getting you we're getting. older. You know what I mean? We're not. like I'm not 22 where I'm like it's so. fun to figure out how everyone else. lives. >> I'm a million. I literally every night. we were like we would have probably cuz. like have you toured on a bus? >> I'm about to tour on a bus. >> Okay. T you know what what's crazy about. it? I preferred the bus. Okay. >> Than staying in the hotels. I honestly, it's like, you know, you need like a. home base, especially when you go on. tour. You need somewhere that feels like. home. >> And so, every time we were off the bus, I was like, "My Shayla," every time the. bus [laughter] was leaving, I was like,
"Please come back.". >> Uh, but I remember every night we would. have to we would probably wrap the show. around like 9:30, 10:00, >> and then the driver wouldn't come till. like midnight. So, we would just go back. on the bus and wait till he came. It's. like the driver hours or whatever. And. so in those like two, three hours, we. would have some downtime and the my. brother-in-law is like 23, 20, going to. be 24. So him and like the younger. people in our group would be like, "Let's go out." And then I was like,
"Okay, you guys go out. Goodbye.". >> And I would sit and eat ramen on the bus. >> in heaven. >> in my pajamas. And then my man would be. playing Elden Ring on the bus. And. that's what I was doing every night. >> Man, that's romantic to me. [laughter]. >> I know. >> Oh my Talk about horny. >> That is horny to me. I went over to my. partner's house yesterday and she was. like, "What do you want to do?" And I. was like, "I think I want to stare.". [laughter]. >> Nothing. >> Legitimately. And then she was like,
"That sounds so nice." We sat on the. couch cross-legged, not looking at each. other. No TV on, no music. >> That sounds a little spooky, but I I. support you. If anybody would have come. in, it would have looked like we were. plugged in through our buttholes. You. know what I mean? Like the couch was. charging downloading the information. [laughter]. >> And her schedule is like equally nuts. So, we are fully like you have to find I. do think that it's so helpful sometimes. to find somebody that's as like.
>> psychotically busy as we are because. there's so much grace. >> I agree. And they and they just they. understand and they get it. Like. especially if I when I'm in those. stretches where I'm working all the time. and I'm sleeping barely at all and then. like I'll try to open something and I. can't open it to the point where it. brings tears to my eyes and then he's. he'll come and he'll be like I'll open. this you go sit down. I'll just go sit. down. I [laughter] have to sit I just. have to sit. I I get sitting in silence.
Yeah, >> it's room man. >> That's the type of [ __ ] I do. Like. sometimes I'll just wander into my. bedroom like and my man will be sitting. in the living room playing his game and. I'll just go in the room and I'll just. sit in there and silence [laughter]. >> like no music playing, no TV, >> not even on your phone. Just like. >> just sitting there and and he leaves me. alone. Like he he doesn't come and ask. me for anything. He's like, "Oh, are you. going in the room?" I'm like, "Yeah.". He's like, "Okay." And he waits for me. to come back. That's like. >> That's like having a cat. >> Yeah. [laughter]. Exactly. Exactly. It feels like um I. call it sometimes like normal human. time.
>> Yeah. So, like even just doing normal. human things, I just wander around my. house like a Sim. I just wander into a. room, forget what I was supposed to be. doing in there. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> It's like the only way to stay sane. because you're like, "Oh, I'm a real. person.". >> Yeah. >> Real person that exists in the real. world. >> Well, and I find that like if I go. online one, it's just zapping my brain. So, I try. >> and it makes me be like, "Oh, yeah. I. should work on that thing." [laughter]. >> And so, and then I'll be like I'll be in. the house and I'll be like, "You know. what? Uh, you know, I should be cleaning.
that thing. It would be really nice if I. read more. I should be running scales on. the piano. I don't work on that enough. >> And that's why I have to be like, it's. stair time, >> right? H, that's so good. I love I love. the the the like the pageantry of it. You're like, stair time. >> Yeah, it's stair time. And also just the. the time that I feel most like fem ever. feel fem [laughter]. and it happens so rarely for me. >> Yeah. is when my little gal will like.
come into a kitchen and I've had like. what the day I've just had like that day. where I'm staring but I'm holding. something that needs to be open. >> and she'll take it for me and open it. and I will fully do that again. [laughter]. [laughter]. >> Oh. [laughter]. soulmate for real. That's like you need. you need someone that that can match. your freak like that. >> Absolutely.
>> We we joked about that on tour a lot. because we were like I'm gonna go in my. bunk and close the door. >> So that's what I'm going to do right. now. I'd appreciate if nobody came and. talked to me. >> We just go and we just had mutual. respect for each other that way. Like. I'd be like, "Oh, it's bunk time, so I'm. going to go in my bunk." And then they. would close their little curtain. And. then. >> the little curtain that sounds so nice. >> [laughter]. >> I had like the back I had the back back. room with my fiance. So then I had the. door closed and then everybody else had. a little curtain on their own. It's.
awesome. Yeah. >> Felt like the Jonas Brothers. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. >> They're the only band I thought of. >> That's okay. >> That's okay. >> Me knowing no other [ __ ] band. >> there. No other ones exist. [laughter]. It's. >> just like who do you really need more. than the Jonas Brothers? >> I don't. [laughter]. [gasps]. >> What? Uh, what's your what was your. favorite if you could if you had to. choose a favorite tour date? Like what. was like the funnest one for you? >> LA. >> LA's great. LA is so fun.
>> I think in part it was because I had so. much disappointment management, which is. uh what I give to myself. I go, it's. going to be bad. [laughter]. >> It's going to be bad. LA's a hard crowd. They're going to come here. They're. going to hate this [ __ ] okay? And. you're going to have to win them, >> right? And I didn't do that half as much. on all the other tours, but for LA it. because it meant so much to me because. it's family and friends, you know what I. mean? >> And you don't want to really, you know, you don't want to give them a bad time. You don't want to do anything. embarrassment and you know that you're.
going to be thinking about it for. [ __ ] ever. So I just went out there. truly so zeroed in at the top of my. game. >> And. >> LA happened to come to party so hard. that night. >> Sick. >> It was unbelievable. Like I there were. part they were singing the lyrics. There. were parts of the show that I was like. fully like. >> you know what I mean? Like really having. this like the gratitude I felt was. unbelievable. Kids were moshing and a. girl got her wig pulled off.
>> That was that was the best. [laughter]. >> That you know it's fun when a girl gets. her wig pulled off. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah. It ain't an ER Fight Master. concert without a wig getting yanked. Baby, somebody's got to come with a wig. [laughter]. >> You guys want a party or what? Yes. And. I also I love um I love I love my fans. Like I think because of the queerness. and being able to be so visible like. specifically through grays. >> Yeah. >> I've picked up a fan base that's really.
diverse in all the ways. And at all of. my shows, there were people that with. disabilities that were sitting in that. section like with a great view of the. stage. And that means a lot to me. because I'm like, "Okay, great." Like, >> we're doing a good job getting people. here. Like, this is this is that means. something to me. And my crowd is not all. white and my crowd does not look the. same and the music or the message is. still meaning something to a big group. of people. And I don't get to see that.
that often. >> Yeah. Especially when you're doing stuff. on TV. >> Yes. I don't get to see it. So then, so. the music is really the chance that I. get to be with them. Yeah. And even if. they came, >> even if they come just because they saw. me on Grace, >> yeah, >> I don't care. It's it's it gets to be. like this. I'm like, no, think of it. Sure. It's the band. Like, I want you to. really like my music and. >> I want you to come here because it feels. important to meet me because I do meet. with fans after the show. And I I know I. don't know. It's just like we get so. separated from everybody. You know, we.
are making this art for people to. >> We want to make art that people consume. because we didn't get to see ourselves, >> right? >> And so then getting to watch them. experience the art, watch them consume. the art. It keeps you going. >> Absolutely. I was just about to say. that's what. >> that's what sustains me with the shark. [ __ ] Like how I can never like when I'm. struggling and I'm like this is. exhausting and I'm I'm tired and I feel. like I haven't like been alone or been. normal for who knows how long. It's. that's why I loved live performing, too.
And I've told people like that's one of. my proudest accomplishments is having. like my fans, none of them look the. same. Like there's they span many. different demographics and groups. And. I'm very proud of that. I know your fans. are like that too because when I posted. the cut down from our first episode. together, >> first of all, a million likes. Second of. all, everybody in the comments was like, "I can't believe you know who er. Fightmaster is. Oh my god, I can't. believe like they it was like they were. you were there, Shayla, but also they.
just were like, "Oh my god, I love them. so much." Like they were freaking the. [ __ ] out. Our the crossover event that. happened with us doing this was so. rewarding to me and I think it's why. we've stayed in touch and like. absolutely our fan are so aligned. >> They are. It's literally a circle. Our. fan bases are a circle that the. crossover is 100%. They are they are. violent. [laughter]. >> They are gorgeous. And they are diverse. >> And they don't play about you. >> No,
>> they do not play about ER5. [laughter]. >> No. And they do not [ __ ] around with. you. I You called yourself at one point. it's like um. >> what' you a tangible consequence. >> Yeah. >> And I was thinking like first of all, let me get that tattooed. [laughter] And. second of all, I the way that these. women feel so comforted watching you be. a tangible consequence. [laughter]. Like really [ __ ] like I I don't worry. about you. And I know you need to be.
worried about because that's and that's. probably what your beautiful fiance is. for. >> But I don't worry about you. And that. feels empowering. Like when somebody. goes into the comments and says. something negative to you, I'm fully. like. >> [laughter]. >> dumbass. I'm ready. I I'm like, she's about to. take back the night. [laughter] My. friend Kyle Pru, he messaged me. I put. it in my dump the other day, but he. messaged me. Uh, watching people wander.
into your DMs looking for a fight feels. like watching Joe Peshy go in the Home. Alone house a million times. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. Constantly going inside the. front door. >> That is so true. >> I was like so funny. I took a picture of. it. God damn. >> I was like, "Yeah, they never learn, do. they?" Um, it's actually so funny you. say that, too, because recently I made a. video defending uh trans women, trans. people in general, but especially trans. women, because they were the ones being. attacked at the time. [snorts]. >> And I made a video defending them. And. all I said was, like, this is literally.
what I said in the video. I said, "If. you're a transphobe and it's 2025, your. ass stinks." That's all I said. I said, "You have [ __ ] in your ass and your. breath stinks and you have no friends. Like, nobody likes you. You're a [ __ ]. loser." That's all I said. [laughter] I. didn't even I didn't specify a person. I. didn't specify a group. I literally just. said if you're if you're a transphobe or. a turf, your your ass stinks. Like, and. it's science. >> See, that is my written word. [laughter]. >> That's what I'm saying. >> Like, why am I in praise? >> This this happened without me thinking.
[laughter]. >> The spirit's calling to you. >> Wow. YES. [laughter]. >> GOD, >> that's all I said. And you know what's. funny is I have never and this was my. issue too when uh the election happened. When the election happened I was posting. oh I was posting crazy [ __ ] I was. posting all kinds of [ __ ] leading every. year leading up to the election. I've. been doing that. And so I when I posted. like. >> hey [ __ ] that [ __ ] Like I posted that. I hated him and I hate anybody who.
supports him. >> I can't even tell you how many women. were like you're telling me that you. don't want Trump supporter followers. We. can't agree to disagree. No. No, log. off. >> And also me of all people. >> Log off. Delete your account. >> I was like, me of all, you're asking me. if I Is that a joke? Like I I literally. was like, I feel like you [ __ ] don't. know me at all. Like, what the [ __ ]. >> Do they think Do they think that we got. here by like thinking that we need to be. palatable? >> Well, you know what I started hearing. after I was uh attacking transphobes the.
other day? Uh because the person who. started this [ __ ] is a turf, right? So, I was like saying, "You guys are [ __ ]. turfs and your ass stinks just like a. transphobe because you are a. transphobe." And they were like, "I'm. not transphobic.". Okay, so you're afraid of trans people. I'm not transphobic. I just like don't. want them near me. What's the [ __ ]. difference? >> They don't want to be near you either, you dumb freak. >> No [ __ ] No [ __ ] That's why I was like, I don't give a [ __ ] Like, if it looks. like a duck and it talks like a duck, I'm going to call it a [ __ ] duck. You.
>> You think me and my boys want to be. hanging out with you [ __ ] That's why I. was like, they want to be nothing more. than to be left alone and you just can't. mind your own [ __ ] business ever. >> I I love the idea that they're asking. because I think that's absolutely true. And the minute someone is transphobic, I. feel like I learn everything about their. sex life. [laughter]. >> I mean, truly, you're just like, oh, like the concern that you have for. others is like for others being. themselves, for living joyfully, for.
daring to be happy, >> to not want to die. Yeah. like all this. [ __ ] that you are really projecting like. your own anxieties and like self-hatred. onto them. And I learn I learn how. crooked the dick is. I [laughter] learn. how small it looks even when it's hot. out. You know what I mean? >> It could be the hottest day on earth. >> Yeah. You got the kind of balls that. don't get longer when it's like swampy. out. [laughter]. >> That's not in the cards for you. >> Uh uh uh uh. No. I know when I was uh I. had I had women like attacking me and.
telling me I wasn't uh for women because. I dared to defend trans women, our most. vulnerable. That's crazy. Um to which I. What's ironic about that is the week I. made that video, I had Dylan on the show. again for an all-star episode. >> Gorgeous. >> And I was like, see, I know turfs have. never ever ever ever interacted with. trans people in real life ever. If you. have, you didn't know because you're a. dumbass, but it doesn't matter either. way. I was like, I actually know and. love trans people in real life. Even if. I didn't, I would tell you [ __ ] to. choke on my dick. And honestly, the line.
that made them the most mad, other than. me saying their ass stinks, was I told. them to suck my dick. And then I said, "Actually, suck it from the back cuz I. don't want to look at you." And that. line, I'm not kidding, has made women. freak the [ __ ] out at me. These turfs, they literally are like, "That's so. disgusting. That's so unladylike." And. then they started calling me a man. I. was like, "Oh, so you are transphobic. [laughter] then?". >> I. >> Oh, wait. So, you are transphobic. Okay, I knew it. >> You know when you are when you're like. alone for a minute and then you like.
touch your partner or you have sex and. you get like that burst of oxytocin? [laughter]. >> I just had that. >> The endorphins just released. Yo, >> that song that Justin Bieber song where. he's like life is worth living. That's. how I felt. >> That is how I felt. I I'm obsessed with. these um sizz women that that hate trans. women because I think that they are I. think that it is also a confession of. like hey. >> I really had to do everything I was told.
my whole life and so and you HAVE NOT. [laughter]. >> YOU'VE NOT HAD YOU'VE not been in this. like. >> you cut the line. >> Yeah. I I'm actually I grew up in hell. You know what I mean? Like my uncle was. calling me hot when I was five. Yeah. Like there's actually no way for me to. be that makes people happy. If I'm. annoying, people wish I was dead. >> Exactly. >> You can't join me here. >> Yeah, exactly. >> What are you fighting for? >> No, for real. And who are you fighting. for? >> I've even told them before like I've. said this many times already, so having.
to say it again pisses me the [ __ ] off. because I don't explain myself to. bigots. Like I I was like the only. person like you want me to validate you. and your transphobia. I'm not going to. >> I hate turfs. I hate transphobes. I've. been that way forever. Um, and I've like. obviously I have many many followers who. are trans and so a lot of them were. like, "Thank you for always defending. us." And I was like, "You you guys stand. behind me as long as you want, [ __ ] I. don't give a [ __ ] till till you feel. brave enough to come out. I don't care.".
Right? I was like, and also, >> I've told people before, it's imperative. that sis women have this conversation. with each other. It's imperative that. cis women hold other cis women. accountable for being transphobic. It's. imperative cuz no one's free till we're. all free. And also to think that. transphobia will not affect cis women at. all is insane. It's already affecting. sis women. >> I mean especially I we can obviously see. it in the sports space. >> Exactly. And women of color especially. And that's the part that I was like you. think I don't know. I experienced it all.
the [ __ ] time. Like and it's because. I'm not I don't fit into these. euroentric beauty standards. But see, I've unpacked all of my internalized. transphobia and biases. So, it doesn't. offend me when people try to call call. me a trans person or a man to insult me. That doesn't offend me. >> And also, I do have a huge dick. >> I know. >> And you're going to suck it from the. back. >> And I would. [laughter]. >> And that's a fact, [ __ ]. >> Yeah. And I I I'm down with it actually. [laughter]. I'm like stuttering. I'm like, "Wait, ARE WE DOING NOW?". >> GETTING NERVOUS.
>> YEAH. NO, NO. LIKE, OKAY. [laughter]. I You know what? The the my truest. thought on this is that I think that. trans women have a more beautiful. understanding what what womanhood is. >> I agree. >> I think that unfortunately the. programming for sis women is is it is. it's kind of sad sometimes and I I'm. like actually no your womanhood is not. your role. Your womanhood is not your. status in society and your womanhood is. not. >> your ability to be sexually assaulted.
Yeah. And this trans this trans debate. that's like centering all on well like. if a quote unquote man in a dress is in. a bathroom. >> he will rape me. >> I'm like okay well the then it sounds. like. >> the problem that we have. >> is. >> is that men are going to rape and women. are fearing rape their whole lives. >> Right. >> And when you talk to trans women about. their womanhood they talk about it like. almost gets me choked up. They talk. about it in such this like beautiful.
expansive way. >> of like it's it's this feeling I always. had. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's this truth I've always. known. It's the most beautiful parts of. me. It's my softest self. And. >> I don't feel that from siswoman right. now because I think the propaganda is so. strong. >> I agree. >> And I love I love I love women. Oh my. god. I'm so obsessed with women. I'm. obsessed with all women. I really am. obsessed with all women. And I want sis. women to stop letting men be a barrier.
to their identity. >> See? Yeah. Absolutely. I've even told. sis women when I was defending I. defended Dylan. I've defended Dylan many. times, but I defended her when she put. out her song because um turfs once again. were attacking her and saying that her. song was. >> like basically saying she's vapid. It. was derivative. Yeah. It was a. derivative of womanhood. I said that's. her experience with womanhood. Notice. how she never said this is the. experience of all women. >> That's her experience as a woman. But. even let's just say that is what she was.
saying. She's talking about taking her. meds, right? She's talking about for her. both for her transition but also for her. mental health. She's talking about. having a one night stand, right? >> Are any of those things bad? And I told. them like because when Sabrina Carpenter. makes jokes about getting Eiffel Tower. on her [ __ ] tour, everyone's like, [laughter]. I love when women are sexual and me too. >> I love it. >> But see, when trans women have the exact. same conversation, all of a sudden you. want to talk about wear more than just a.
pair of tits. >> No [ __ ] [ __ ] I know that. Dylan knows. that. Sabrina Carpenter knows that. We. all know that. It seems like you're the. only person who doesn't know that. >> And I was like, there is nothing wrong. with any of those things. Just because. women are engaging in them doesn't make. them bad. But it speaks to what you. said, which is like it's almost like. that's the most like convicted they feel. in themselves is their womanhood, what. their idea of femininity is, what their. idea of womanhood is. >> And I was explaining too, even me, I was. like, I am a sis woman, right? I.
identify with the gender that was. assigned to me, >> but I am not a thin white woman, right? So my experience with womanhood is going. to be different from a cis thin white. woman. We're going to have two different. very experiences of womanhood. Is yours. more valid than mine? >> Right. >> No. Right. So, it's really all the. [ __ ] same, isn't it? Also, whenever I. say gender is a social construct and. it's made up, their minds spray against. the wall behind them. They immediately. are like, "What the [ __ ] are you even. talking about?" I'm like, "See, you're. not smart enough to have this. conversation with. >> different that is always the frustrating. part is you're like, we are creating.
arguments to protect people and so we do. our research, >> right? Exactly. and they are. manufacturing our arguments to tear. people down. And so they actually are. just pulling [ __ ] out of their stinky. little asses. [laughter]. And so you're coming over here and being. like, you know, Judith Butler would say. and and they're like, "But he sounds. dumb." [laughter]. >> Exactly. I use the term white feminism. because I was saying turfs perpetuate. white supremacist ideology, which is. white feminism, and white feminism is.
void of intersectionality. And if your. activism isn't intersectional, it. doesn't fight for everyone, right? And. it's racist most times. And I said, "White fe I said all of that to. someone." And then she goes, "White. feminists? This person is black.". >> Then I'm like, [sighs]. and then I literally wrote back to her, "Google the term white feminism. Study. up and then come back to me. You're not. smart enough to have this conversation. with me." And I said, "Notice how when I. made my original video, I didn't start. with this is why turf rhetoric is.
harmful." I said, "Your ass stinks.". That's why I said it because there's. >> I already said that. I already said the. truth. Your ass stinks. >> I was like, "There's no point. I had no. interest in having the conversation with. you because you don't want to learn.". >> And you don't have to have literature on. that, sweetie. [laughter] You just have. to have a nose. >> Just a nose. And you know what's in. there? I said, "And your breath stinks, too. It's probably from your [ __ ]. gingivitis." I said all kinds of mean. [ __ ] And then this girl commented on my. video and said, "Period to this video, but also just want to say one of my. co-workers is a huge transphobe and he.
has the worst breath I've ever smelled. in my life." And I said, "And when I. tell you I'm a scientist, believe me, >> or a witch, whichever one works for. you." No. >> And I was like, "It's a scientific fact. I told you you all have poop in your. butt and you're just mad at me because I. know and I'm telling everyone.". [laughter]. >> This is the most powerful like this. This is my mantra now. >> [snorts]. >> You got poop in your butt. [laughter]. >> There's people saying, "Oh, she's such a. fake feminist." And all I did was I told. transphobes that they have poop in their. butt. And somehow that makes me not a.
real feminist. >> Bro, what makes you a realer feminist. than being [laughter]. than knowing that transphobes have [ __ ]. in their ass. So, I was like, I I did. the research. >> That's actually empathetic. [laughter]. You can under I'm Oh, I'm empathizing. with their existence. They've got [ __ ]. in their ass. Like I was telling my. sister I was getting annoyed because I. don't first of all I don't want to see. turfs. I don't want to hear from you. I. don't want to see what you say. I don't. care about anything you believe in. But. more than anything I was like this. wasn't an open discussion. Imagine it. like this. I'm walking by and I go don't.
want to interrupt. Don't want to take. too much of your time. Your ass stinks. All right. Have a nice day. That's all I. wanted to say. That's all I needed. That's the ground rules. >> Just in passing. I didn't want to have a. conversation with you. >> It's it's like the opposite of cat. calling, but it is really similar. [laughter] It's like the guys actually. don't want the women to be like, "Yeah, no, I'm free." When they're like, "Do. you want to hang out now?" They're like, "Oh, [laughter] oh, oh, >> no." They just want to be like, "Timmy. alert.". So, anyways, I've been doing that this. week. But I was like, "I'm fighting off. turfs like a [ __ ] Feels like.
World War Z." They're like, "They're so. hungry.". >> I know. Oh my god. [laughter]. >> But we do have some fun facts about you. So, I do want to read you some. Obviously, we know you're a Gemini. I. already knew that about you and that. you're from Cincinnati, Ohio. >> Okay. Listing my disabilities. [laughter]. >> That's crazy. >> Hippa. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> You can't do that. Where did you find. out? [laughter]. >> Okay. It says here that you played. varsity basketball and varsity. volleyball in high school.
>> Yes. >> And then you got signed to play college. volleyball for the University of. Cincinnati. >> Okay. >> What did you play in volleyball? >> I was a middle blocker. >> I was. >> I was going to guess the middle. >> Mhm. >> That's the height. That's the height for. you. It says their volleyball team was. nationally ranked and they were named to. the USCAA all academic team for all. >> which is not not impressive [laughter]. or having a 3.5 GPA. >> Yeah, I I was the only athlete that did. homework. That actually means I probably. wasn't playing very well. [laughter]. >> Yes. >> You know what's so funny? You're so me.
Because one time Oh, first of all, I was. an athlete all throughout high school. >> Of course. >> And I played volleyball in high school, too, but I was a hitter. I was an. outside hitter. >> Right side. >> Outside hitter. Yeah. And then my sister. was an outside hitter, too. Even though. my sister's 5'4. Um, [laughter]. >> how did that happen? >> Only guy on the team, too. >> Oh, god. >> Only our resident gay. Yeah. Our. in-house gay. That was D. [laughter]. It was funny. I was talking about. because I played soccer. Soccer was my.
main sport. And Dason was like, you. know, everyone says softball's the gay. sport, which is like, okay. And but. women's basketball and soccer, she was. saying, are like even bigger. >> 100%. >> Yeah. Women's basketball. Yeah. And then. soccer I was like, well, it's either. lesbians or it's like straight girls. that make out with lesbians when they're. drunk. >> I would just say that they're more. closeted. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I Yeah. I think. >> in the early stages Yeah. soccer, those. girls were smaller, so they were more.
like they had the ability to like get. pretty in in high school. And all the. basketball players that were any good. There was just something about being. like, I don't know. I don't I don't. think Yeah. I don't think, you know, Bob. is going to like me. Like, so it didn't. [ __ ] matter. I'm wearing my sweats. And the soccer girls were had the. ability to be like hotties. Yeah. >> And so they stayed closeted for much. longer. But. >> jokes's on you. [laughter]. I know. That's why we laughed about it. because my sister played soccer, but. then when she went to college, she was.
like, I think I'm going to join the. rugby team, right? >> Did you do it? >> Yeah, she played like all four years. >> What can you um Sorry, this is now kink. for me. Um, [laughter]. what can you squat? >> Oh, yeah. What's your your highest. squat? >> Yeah, PR number. >> Yeah, around that, I would say. So, I'm. sucking your dick from the back. [laughter]. >> and your dick from the back. >> Hers from the front. >> God,
>> the tower. Look at that. >> I've got a lot of work to do right. after. [laughter]. >> God, I got to really roll up my sleeves. and get to work. >> I I got to call my partner. I got to let. her know I'm sucking [laughter] dick. >> I'm going to be late for lunch. >> And I will be full. >> You having a GPA making all academic? You're so me. That was me, too. One. time. One time someone asked me, "What's. the question you wish people asked you. more?" Right. And I said, "What my AP. scores were in high school.". >> [ __ ] [laughter]. >> Horny again. >> [ __ ] I do like that. I do like good.
grades. [laughter]. >> Me, too. I loved school. [gasps]. >> Yeah, it was fun. >> And I actually didn't do any homework. for like the first three years of high. school. And then they're like, you know, you're going to need this for college. And I was like, oh my god, >> we're not going to let you leave if you. don't do it. >> Why didn't you [ __ ] say that? And so. I went from like truly a 2.5 GPA cuz I. was like homework doesn't matter. You. can't control me [laughter] to being. like I need it for college and I had a. 4.0 and it was the easiest switch I ever. made. I was like oh I didn't when you. sent me home with this I didn't realize.
you wanted me to do it. >> I didn't realize you wanted it back. [laughter] but you gave it to me to. keep. >> Why didn't you say that? Like. >> why is nobody talking about homework? [laughter]. >> My teachers are being insane and they. thought I was funny so I'd be like no I. don't have it. and they'd be like, "Okay." [snorts]. [laughter] You know, there was just no. like, "You h you really have to." They. were just fully like, "You're our. favorite.". >> Why are you rzing up people in high. school, >> man? I go back to my high school now and. they I they my teachers still [ __ ] with. me hard. [laughter]. >> I bet they do. Hardcore.
>> You're just riing people up all. throughout high school. Okay. And here. it says they performed in Boom Chicago, an English comedy troop in Amsterdam. >> Yeah. Yeah, we performed. I performed in. Amsterdam. um at Boom. And Boom is like. you're performing for basically an. audience that's almost entirely English. second language. >> Oh, nice. >> And so you. >> do you speak Dutch? >> Uh in Bicha [laughter] and it's uh you. really you learn how to be universally.
funny. You have to because the first. like six months that you're there, you're pulling stuff out of your ass. that's really like an Americanism, you. know? Even even talking about like like. the Kroger or the Vons like whatever. that's too specific and so you your comp. is the Walmart but then you have in in. the back of your brand you know all the. their major brands now and you know the. Italian brands because we actually have. a big group of Italians in here tonight. Oh and there's a Scottish bachelor. party. It's improv and sketch. Okay. And. so there's just there was just such a.
learning curve of being like, "Oh yeah, like American humor is so specific to. us, right?" And the rest of the world is. actually working on a different level. because the act of the rest of the world. is connected to each other. >> Yeah. Like they're far more connected. than we are. We're like. >> 100%. When you're doing like comedy in. Europe, even if you're doing it in. Amsterdam, you're not even doing just. Dutch humor. It's the all of Europe is. visiting each other. They're all like. traveling to see each other. They have a. train system. True. >> So the audience was different every. night. >> Damn. and it's global and they're making.
fun of each other in a much better way. that like we can't do because our nation. is like, you know, white supremacists. and when we make fun of even Italians, everyone's like. [laughter]. >> something racist about that. >> Yeah, I've done a few white people jokes. like in my tiny standup set that I have, it's like a five minute one. I have a. lot of white people jokes in it. >> and some some offers I've gotten to do. shows I've been like I love the comic. but their audience is like southern.
straight white people and I was like. they are not going to laugh at anything. I have prepared because they don't have. the same kind of understanding or humor. so it's just probably not going to. translate as well. >> Okay. So I also performed with Second. City. We toured across the country. We. did one show in Ohio. We did not know. that the makeup of the show was going to. be entirely elderly. And I'm talking 90. plus. 90 plus all Republican. The first. 12 rows were wheelchairs. Okay.
>> Okay. [laughter]. >> I'm talking 90 plus. And so we have the whole like political. like comedy sketch show prepared for. them and then some improv slots. And the. political comedy is eating more [ __ ]. than a turf. You know what I mean? It's. just failing, failing, failing, failing. >> Yeah. >> And so we send out our angriest white. guy and we're like, >> "Do your worst.". >> And he goes out there to improvise and. he starts a scene THAT'S BASICALLY LIKE, "MY WIFE IS SO [ __ ] ANNOYING." AND.
[laughter] THE audience is like. >> it's Freddy Mercury when he's like doing. the queen that make BIG. [laughter]. >> just all these elderly people who truly. atmission had like they were [laughter]. standing up for the first time in 10. years to leave. >> It's just killing. It's just absolutely. killing. >> Oh my god. On their knees. On their. knees for Scott. >> So funny. What's a joke that hits across. the world? You would say when you were.
in uh Amsterdam doing the comedy troop. >> Everybody likes ripping on the Germans. >> Really? [laughter] That is nice. Good. tip to have. >> It's really fun. >> They all have a united enemy. >> and even the Germans. I mean, it's. obviously it's us. Like, you know, if. you're making a joke about Americans in. Europe, it's just about IQ level because. we think we're so [ __ ] superior and. the rest of the world is like, "Look at. those angry kids." like they [ __ ]. hate us, man. It's embarrassing. I was.
lying to people saying like I am Dutch. [laughter]. >> I I was over there like just because a. lot of the Dutch speak English. >> and so I was fully over there just being. like, "Hi everyone, like you know, [laughter] so nice to meet you." Like. >> lying. >> 100%. I'm not getting in a gay club. Like [laughter]. >> they they find out I'm American. >> 100%. Yes. No. And they they love when. we call ourselves stupid and they love.
when we're like joke about the Germans. being so on time. [laughter]. >> I mean. >> they're like those jokes killed every. day. >> Yo yo across the world. [laughter]. >> Good. No. When me and my sister were on. tour last year, we watched one night in. the bus. We watched Planet of the Apes. and we love those movies and we're just. big Planet of the Apes fans. And then in. I think it was Dallas, I was like doing. a bit where I would be every time they. would like laugh or listen or do. something good, I'd be like apes.
together strong. Killed killed. Every. time I said it, they were cackling it. >> What a beautiful thing to find. >> Right. And I was like And I was like, "Oh, period. Period." Next town we go. [laughter] to It was after it was. Austin, Dallas, Houston. When we And it. >> Oh, Denver. Yeah, we went to Denver. after we got out of Texas. It's like a night two or two later. I I. whip out the Planet of the Apes joke. probably 10 15 minutes in. Not one. laugh. Oh, back on the shelf. Gonna. We'll revisit her when I go to the city.
>> Oh my god. [laughter]. >> I thought I was going to kill every. night. Just that one. >> My. >> Didn't hit the rest of the tour. >> Rest of the tour. Nobody laughed. >> Isn't it crazy how like sometimes you. just find yourself like like I was on. tour. We were we were not slaying one. night. We were performing for a group of. veterans. And why are you always. performing in front of these? >> When you you know this when you tour. comedy, it's for some reason everybody. that's in the audience is there against. their will. They they're there by. gunpoint [laughter]. to say it's like you don't have to be.
here. >> No, it's if they're not at like a comedy. club and even then it's like kind of. iffy. >> Yeah. >> They were brought there by gunpoint by. some like union that they're in. [laughter]. >> Like their bosses made them come for. some [ __ ] and we were performing for. the veterans and we were kind of like. bombing so hard that at one point I'm. telling you I'm telling you I hate the. military industrial complex. I think it. destroys souls and worlds. >> I went thank you for your service. You're doing the Lord's work. Literally. [laughter] that.
I'm doing like an outro and and I go. [laughter]. and and they kind of are like. you got him. You got him a little bit. You're like, >> "Just a little bit.". >> You're give me. >> silence the whole show, but I was like, I I think I'll compromise my values here. for like a little bit of a little snack. I just want like a little treat and a. moose. >> Just a little, [laughter]. >> just anything. >> I still think about it,
>> girl. [laughter]. >> Truly. And even my friend Scott, who was. touring with me at the time, and he was. the one that was like able to do the. life [ __ ] When I came off, he was like, "You're doing the Lord's work." The. [ __ ]. >> He said, "I got desperate up there.". >> I [laughter] really did got desperate up. there. >> I blacked out. >> They weren't giving me anything. >> I I needed it. >> I needed it. I at the end of the day, I. need attention. So, >> truly, I was like, "Just a little. fingy." [laughter]. >> Just give me something. Anything. Okay, we'll go down some more of these. Let's. see. It says that you were in a indie.
rock band called Twin. >> and they named the band Twin because. they're a Gemini. >> Yeah. Well, [laughter] that's that's. that's factual. >> Yeah. So, and I also I I dated um I had. dated a um a lot I've dated a lot of. twins somehow. I don't know what I'm. attracting, but I've dated a lot of. twins. >> That sounds kind of scary. >> It can be. >> like like I feel like twins when they. get to a certain age, it's like, okay, enough. No more. I. >> You're no longer a twin.
>> I couldn't agree more. Being a twin is. for children. [laughter] And at this. point, you're 25 and it's perverted. >> Yeah. >> And you're creepy and weird. Yeah. >> So, knock it off. >> And if you ever wear the [ __ ] same. thing in front of me, [laughter]. >> I'll have you arrested. >> I don't care. Yeah. I believe I hate the. cops. >> I I believe in the police again for. that. [laughter]. >> Just for twins. >> Yeah. Mm- ATAB. >> That is crazy. >> All twins are bad. That's [laughter].
that's. crazy that you've just so happened to. date twins. >> I don't I'm. >> more more than once. More than once is. crazy. >> I Yeah, I I guess I'm problematic. >> Were they [laughter] Were they. identical? >> Yeah, >> that's uncomfortable. Imagine you're mad. at them and then their their sibling. comes and you're like [laughter]. >> there. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. I'll tell you when we're not rolling. Uh, this says they used to be a part of.
a sketch comedy duo called Mr. Beaver. >> That's true. >> Where they performed live shows with a. sidekick called Cat Piano. >> Yeah, that was some really magical [ __ ]. We would improvise songs on a piano that. the keys only made me, >> right? >> And listen, you could be like, "That. sounds [ __ ] stupid as hell." We were. tearing that [ __ ] [laughter] up. We were. winning awards. You know how hard it is. to win like awards for [ __ ] improv? Like they don't even they made them for. us. >> Damn. They were eating that cat piano.
up. >> I And I was really fem at the time. >> Okay. >> And so they were just like this hot tall. girl is. >> I honestly don't even remember the show, but the person who's doing it is hot. So. >> bro, listen. When I was fem that [ __ ]. was devastating. That [ __ ] was. devastating. I had to stop being fem cuz. I was [ __ ] [ __ ] up for you hoes. [laughter]. Okay, you can cook with comfort. My. non-binary was a sacrifice. you made cuz I was [ __ ] your men. [laughter].
>> And they were begging for it. >> Don't make me start doing it again. >> They wanted my [ __ ] foot on their. neck so [ __ ] bad. [laughter] And I. hated their asses the whole time it was. [ __ ] happen. I was like, "You're. disgusting. I'm on top of them looking. down like I'm looking at a turd." Okay. But they were in my bed. You comment. talking to me about my [laughter]. queerness. [ __ ] I did what you did. It. sucked ass. You think I'm jealous of. y'all? [laughter]. >> I tried YOUR [ __ ] I TRIED your [ __ ] It. sucked. >> You said two stars. >> God, dude.
>> Two stars on Uber. >> I'm sorry. That's never really exploded. out of [laughter] me right now. >> I let you have your moment. >> I It is crazy. >> Release it. You know what I mean? I do. actually feel like that is the that is. my pretty privilege is like I know how. [ __ ] trans I am because I was not. having an experience of like I was a. gorgeous woman. [laughter] I was. gorgeous. You know what I mean? I was. killing it. >> I was killing it. And what I did find I. did not like. Like I really felt I I.
like. >> I never really felt like a woman. And so. and I was such an awkward teenager and. then all of a sudden I was in college. and like really grew into everything. well and was like just getting so much. >> you have so much disgust on your face. talking. >> Well because it was hard. >> Yeah. I bet. >> like being being. >> and that like restriction it was like. suffocating. I'm sure. >> it was what I really found was it was. dangerous. >> Oh yeah. >> That like you could we're we're big and. we're loud, right? And I felt that when.
I was beautiful and something that these. men wanted, >> they had to, they didn't have the social. grace to just really accept me for being. smarter than them. >> and taller than them. >> and better than them at the things that. they were doing. And so they would do. this thing where they would pretend to. be kind to me and then they'd get me in. private and violence would happen. >> You know what I mean? Absolutely. And I. am so grateful. I found such a beautiful. queer community. I'm so grateful. I.
found my non-binary identity. I'm so. grateful for transness as a as a way of. being, as a way of understanding. Absolutely. >> And I'm telling you, it makes me care. for women harder. It makes me because I. think that there's so the most violent. place now for women, the most the where. we have the most reported incidents of. death and violence is in the [ __ ]. home. >> Yeah. >> That's where women are getting injured. They're getting injured by men that they. love in their homes. Yeah. That they. sleep next to every night. Yeah. Marry, have kids with. Yeah.
>> It's important for like I have a lot of. guy friends. I demand. >> kindness from them. I demand excellence. from them. I do not take [ __ ] when. they're talking about the women that. they're seeing. And they have grown with. me. You know what I mean? I love seeing. relationships like yours. Like that man. is so kind. He's so handsome. Like he's. there with you. He's supporting you. Like I actually know that women have. better options, but they are so trained. to take the least. >> Yeah. And these men don't deserve you. and they absolutely don't deserve you if. they're gonna hit you. And they probably.
don't deserve you anyway. So there. better be some You better [ __ ] love. this guy. >> For real. For real. I' I've even said. too, like, have you watched Adolescence, the new show on Netflix? It's really. really good. But it's like basically. talking about a young uh boy, like a. 13-year-old boy. It's not a secret. It's. not a spoiler, but he like he kills a. girl in his school because she rejected. him. But it talks about how he got. indoctrinated by red pill on social. media. That's like the whole point of. the show. So, it's not like, well, who. did it, it's why he did it. So, it's. kind of unraveling and unpacking all of. those different like things, those very.
small things that happen in the home. that breed this air of like entitlement. to women and their bodies and everything. about them and how they they genuinely. hate them. They don't like anything. about them. They just see them as. objects and things to use or abuse. And. so, like, I have obviously I loved the. show because it was very well done. I've. said many times there are are many. things I don't platform on purpose. because they are just that scary. Like. it's just it's just that horrifying. And. there have been a few stories that I. didn't include in my book because they.
weren't like my stories to tell. >> that I've heard about like at my. brother's high school. My brother is. going to be 21 this year. So when he was. in high school when I was still doing. this. >> There are things happening now like. where where men are inflicting violence. and they're young. They're minors. They're like sophomores in high school. Like it's just like how young it starts. like that understanding of what women's. place is in this world and where men sit. and like this indoctrination that is. becoming more and more accessible. because of things like social media, because of people like Andrew Tay, like.
all that [ __ ] [ __ ]. >> But it's it's actually why. we are in such an environment. environmental crisis, right? It's this. energy of extractivism. >> where these young boys are basically. being indoctrinated with colonialism, right? Of like everything that they see. is theirs is theirs. Yeah. and they want. to extract as much as they can from it. without putting any effort into it. without renewing that resource without. and I.
>> I think being being you know fem for a. minute. >> I did find that they like I felt this. like that they a lot of men will just. latch on to you and they're like they. are drawn to this resource that you have. which is your joy and your sex and your. whatever and they pull it from you but. they're not offering ing you anything in. return. And I'm like, that's. extractivism. And it's the same thing. that we do with our [ __ ] environment. >> You know what I mean? We are going into. these places and we are pulling oil from. the earth, but we're doing nothing to. protect her.
>> Yeah. Or to replenish. >> Yeah. And the beauty of having. experience as a gorgeous woman. >> Is that now in this like place of really. confident masculinity, >> be the partner that I wish I would have. had. >> Yeah. Totally. You know, and with with. my partner, >> I really work hard because I am I am. there for her joy. >> I am there for her sex. I am there for. her stories. I am there for her. intelligence. I am there for so many of. her really these like soul assets that.
she has. >> I see her as a person as like a full. person. >> I'm replenishing that [ __ ]. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> You know what I mean? Like I'm giving. her my energy. I'm making sure I have a. life that's interesting so that we have. something to talk about over coffee. You. know what I mean? Like. >> you have your own thoughts. >> Yes. Yes. I'm bringing my friends to. her. I'm making sure that I'm dressed. cute at least 60% of the time. [laughter] You know, I'm doing things. that because I I want this this. beautiful person to be a I want to be.
able to experience her joy. And I think. that men don't realize how much work. women are putting in to continually give. joy. >> for real and to keep things afloat. It's. like the most the most mundane things. like it's just the world doesn't move. without women. And I and I felt the same. thing like I was like I love women so. dearly and that's why. >> that's why I felt like this was my. purpose was to like. >> uh guide them away from that [ __ ]. like and even in the in the show. adolescence like the dad like in the.
beginning they're kind of trying to. figure out if the dad's like abusive, if. he's like if he hits him, if anything. like encouraging violence, right? >> Uh but he doesn't like he he has anger. issues, but he's not violent or anything. like that. >> And it's almost scarier that way because. I've told people that's actually far. more common that dynamic where you have. a a father who does nothing more than. provide. >> There's no emotional needs being met, spiritual needs. like there's no. checking in just on general well-being. There's no interest in what he likes. It's all forced.
>> You're forcing him to try and like. things that you believe are manly and. then not checking in with him and you're. just going and working and providing for. the family. >> And you're seeing that that dumping. money into something is enough. >> Exactly. And that's why And that's why. he turned out that way. So I'm saying. like it's even more like he's looking. for that like masculinity to latch on to. because his dad encourages that's what. makes a man. So he's not getting it from. his own dad. until he finds it online. and then it turns out to be red. pillshit. And so I was I've told people. before like that kind of misogynist or.
bigot in general because they're never. just one facet of bigotry um is far more. insidious to me. It's like someone who's. a lunkhead a lunkhead gym bro that's. like fat [ __ ] make me a sandwich. Like. obviously you could pick that dude out. of a lineup. Like for the most part all. women are like um that's sexist, right? Yeah. But it's men who have, I don't. know, gained the ability to somewhat. blend. Like giving dangerous. >> giving men like therapizing language, like giving them insight to how women. think is has like made them far more. dangerous because they can say things.
instead of something like that, they'll. say like, "Well, I just want to be able. to take you out of this masculine era. and like put you in your feminine era.". That [ __ ] is the same. They're [ __ ]. They're both bigots. They can both eat. my dick. That's how I feel about them. I. was [laughter] like, "It's me. absolutely agree. >> They're way more dangerous to me. >> Well, and I think that, you know, the. thing that is really scary to sizz. people is that like they're not even. really talking about gender anymore. They're talking about like their. workplace identities.
>> You know what I mean? Like, >> yeah, they're all Patrick Bates. It's. >> And you guys gross me out. >> It's true. It's It's their the way that. they're talking about like the roles. that they need to protect from trans. people. It's like it's psychotic. And. actually, okay, so I was watching Love. is Blind. >> and um and I watch a lot of the show. like this, [laughter]. but but when I thought that some of. those men were being kind to those. women, >> I literally had the thing of like, oh, I. was like, some of them were cute. Some.
of those guys are cute. And then when I. found out that they were basically all. being mean, >> I was like, those are the ugliest men. I've ever seen in my life. And I think. that something that really we can we. need to be honest about is that. masculinity is at its most beautiful. when it's in service to the feminine. because the feminine shines on the. masculine. >> It's it's a gorgeous thing to watch. Like I got this like leg up in the Grace. fandom because I was across from a woman.
who looked at me like I hung the moon. >> and I looked at her like she hung the. moon, you know? And so we had this thing. where the feminine was being woripped. and I was getting the light from her. shine. You know what I mean? And you I. can see even when when the relationship. was like dissolved that there was. everything. I could physically see this. like golden light leave the room even in. the way they shot it. And that they're. capturing something that's honest. Like. men that are good to women are hot to.
me. >> And and I don't give a [ __ ] what the. [ __ ] you look like. If you're bad to a. woman. Exactly. >> You are the ugliest little puddle of mud. on the [ __ ] planet. >> For real. And when you were saying you. have your own interest, too, I was. thinking. >> I was thinking about that that clip. that's going really viral of that guy. who did the morning routine and it's the. most [clears throat] insane [ __ ] I've. ever seen in my life. I was thinking. about that and I was like, everything. men like is [ __ ] boring. >> Oh my god. >> Literally ice. >> Oh my god. >> Literally ice. >> Doing doing push-ups on the balcony at 4.
a.m. I Oh my god. Everything men like. >> with a bottle of sparkling water. >> Everything men like is so boring. Like. even one time when I sometimes when I. hear like because obviously people who. are are men who look like my dad or like. my man, my fiance. >> um are catnip to like the worst. misogynist in the world because they're. like this guy gets it. He looks like a a. masculine man. Which that's. you know, okay, that's how I feel about. it. every time men come up to them.
Dude, I took I took my dad to a Clippers. game because my dad loves basketball. Sick. >> Took my dad to a Clippers game. My dad's. like a bodybuilder, so my dad's like. yolked right now. >> He wore like a black like just tight. tank top like with pants like tucked in. and some Jordans. >> Okay, I'm sorry to say this. I'm about. to be on my third dick [laughter]. >> hard. When I took my dad there, taking my dad. in a tank top to a Clippers game, it's. like throwing a ribeye in a tiger cage.
The way all men, it's no women, all men. are like, they have to come and talk to my dad. about his bench press. Hey, you guys are. weird. You know, like when I was talking. to your sister earlier about what they. can squat, it was because I'm um a gay. pervert, [laughter]. >> you know, and so I actually think that a. lot of straight men are also gay. perverts. [laughter]. >> And I would believe you. Honestly, I.
would believe you. >> It's It's like like the Andrew Tate. worship. >> Yeah. >> And I mean I'm going to really clarify. this. I mean gay in like the way that. straight people mean gay when they're. like that's gay. >> [laughter]. >> like that like you don't you're not gay. like me. I'm beautiful. You're you're. gay like that's gay. You're a gay. [laughter] pervert. >> Well, also it's just kind of like the. things they be doing sometimes when. they're alone. I'm like you guys. [laughter]. are so weird.
>> You absolutely hate Gay men like women. more than straight men like women. >> I mean they're [laughter] gay men are. woriing divas and straight men look at. their own wives and they're LIKE GET. OUT. >> [laughter]. >> DUDE, THERE I WATCHED ONE OF MY friends. make a video recently. This will be the. last silly thing I say, but uh she made. a video recently. She was talking about. when she sees groups of women. She goes, "When I see groups of women out like. >> they're like doing something together, going somewhere, I'm like, "God, that. looks so fun." She like every time I see. girls, I'm like, "What are we talking.
about ladies?" Like that's how I feel. when they're laughing. When I see groups. of men together, I'm like, >> "Well, clearly they just committed a. crime and they're coming back from. something." That's that we call that a. murder. [laughter] Like it's like a. murder of crows. It's a murder of men. >> And I I was I commented on the video. because when uh we my sister and I were. in Vancouver. We did a live show in. Vancouver not too long ago. We went to a. movie one of the days we were there and. there weren't that many people in the. theater. It was like our group of like. nine and then like maybe a few other. couples in the theater. A group of seven.
grown men come in the theater, sit right. behind us. Whole whole theater's empty. Sit right behind us. Talk the whole. [ __ ] time about, you guessed it, stocks. >> Men are this is why we can't get rid of. the death penalty. [laughter]. >> We can't get rid of it. >> And I was like, what are these grown men. doing seeing a movie together? What are. you guys doing? You're doing something. bad. >> Gay. >> You're doing something bad. You're doing.
something sinister. And I was like, and. I kept going the whole time just in case. they did something. >> Well, it would be normal. I would be. happy that they had their little friend. group if they had not chosen to sit. behind the two women. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Like just learn how to be together and. not be scary. >> I know. I was like, you guys need to. rebrand or something cuz you like it. seven grown men together. I I don't like. it. >> No, no man, no man has that many. friends, first of all, because you guys. don't even know each other's birthdays, so I don't believe you. And I was like, but also coming to see the movie, we.
watched the movie Companion, >> it was really good. Um, but obviously. like the whole point is that he like. doesn't see women as real people, so he. has a robot girlfriend. Spoiler. Um, but. in the thing like it's they would laugh. at the parts that weren't so they were. like satirically funny. They're not. supposed to be actually funny. So it's. like the parts where he would call her a. [ __ ] bot. They would be like [laughter]. >> sinister energy. >> Oh my lord. >> The way I was like don't make me turn.
around. I'm cringing so hard I might. throw up. [laughter]. >> Even when we got back to the hotel, my. fiance was like, >> "I did not like those guys behind us." I. was like, "Right." Cuz we didn't talk. about it the whole time. My sister and I. were obviously like when we looking at. them, but then he was like, "No, it's. like the way the [ __ ] they were laughing. at.". >> I was like, "That's not supposed to be. funny. These guys are [ __ ] gross.". And I was like, "Period, King, tell. them.". >> Do you know the reason that they're so. angry is because they actually do have. so much work to do. [laughter].
Like I I do get it. >> Like we said, we're sharks. >> I've been there. At the end of a long. day, when I find out that there's more. assignments for me to do, like I got to. contact my manager again, like all this. [ __ ] I get pissed off. >> You get pissed, too. >> And if every time if like every thought. I had was bad and hateful and I was told. that I had to change that, I can imagine. being frustrated. [laughter]. >> See, look at my empathy. >> Yeah, look at that. Well, we went over so many things today.
>> I obviously, you know, we're in love. So, I you can come back whenever, >> forever. >> Forever and always. Uh, but I would love. to know because you're a literal. multi-hyphenate creative. You're so. talented. Wait, before I ask you this. question, I think you are so incredible. in so many ways. Obviously, I jerk you. off all the time about how talented you. are, but past that, I think just you in. general succeeding in such a creative. space at so many different mediums, being exactly who you are and saying the. things you do, I admire you. I think. you're so amazing and I look up to you.
>> I could not feel more similar. I'm. telling you, I have talked to my partner. about you so much and and. >> likewise, [laughter]. >> the work that I think you're like the. work that you are doing, I think is. generationally like it's generationally. important. >> Thank you. I feel that way about yours, too. Look at us. We're going to stand. together. >> I'm going to cry [laughter]. >> and then we're going to kiss. >> Yeah. Oh, and then I got to suck the. dick in the back. >> That's a whole another thing. >> Yeah. A long time. Well, to kind of wrap.
it up, um, do you have any advice for. anyone within the LGBTQIA plus community. as a whole or just in general that maybe. want to pursue the creative art form and. maybe are a little nervous about doing. multiples, maybe they feel. underrepresented, do you have any advice. for them? I think we are entering a extremely. fascist and violent era. >> and I know that you're scared and I am.
scared but they don't deserve our fear. and we can't live there all the time. We. can visit the fear, but we can't live. there all the time. >> And the only thing that topples regimes, the only thing that ever works is love. >> and art. >> And you have to make love and you have. to make art. >> And you got to do it well. And you got. to enjoy it. And you got to not care if. the money comes because that's when the. money comes. >> And stop thinking about [ __ ]. capitalism all the time. We are, listen,
if fascism takes over and they tank our. economy, we're going to be struggling. regardless. So, at least make sure. you're struggling doing something you. love that keeps your integrity intact. There's nothing more important than your. dignity and the dignity of others. And. that being said, free Palestine. Period. Look at that. Everyone, give them a. round of applause. Obviously, we would never run for. president. Sometimes people I I would. vote for you for president was my point. But sometimes someone said, "You should. run for president." I said, "I would. never want to be in charge of this.
godforsaken [laughter]. country." [ __ ] that. No way. And somehow. like the things that I like Google when. I'm high would get released and it's. like [laughter]. >> and no one needs to see that. >> Are are birds really naked underneath. the feathers? [laughter]. No, we're going to we'll just leave it. here. Like kind of a mystery, but wait. Okay, Amanda, I want you to This is a. note to bleep this. The last thing I. Googled was.
because I was trying to show the video. to my [laughter] constit. [ __ ] ass compilation. >> If if that was leaked, I I would be the. first one to be like, "Drew told me that. this is the only thing that gets her up. in the morning." [laughter]. If I was in that video and I saw how. people were talking about me, I would. say, "That's AI. It's getting out of. control. [laughter] AI is getting out of. control." I would be suing Elon. [laughter] 100%. Yeah, Basos would have. my number. Just wanted to mention that.
was the last thing I Googled. So. [laughter]. that whole that whole line is going to. be bleeped. >> Iconic. Iconic. [laughter]. [gasps]. Anyways, thank you so much to my amazing. guest er for coming back for an all-star. episode. You're the best. >> Thank you for having me. I cannot wait. to suck your dick. >> Me too. Again, round two. >> Round two. [laughter]. If you're not already, I know you all. are, but if you're not following er, where can everybody find you? >> Okay, you can find me at genderlessgad on.
Instagram. You can find me at er. Fightmaster on Tik Tok. I'm getting. better on there. [laughter]. I'm getting better. >> I know. I do be seeing you post on. there. >> Yeah, I have been on there a little bit. I remembered it existed recently. [laughter] And um uh you can listen to. my sports podcast, Jocoul, wherever you. get your podcast. And you can listen to. my music, Fightmaster, wherever you get. your music. >> Loved. >> Thank you. >> And obviously we're in love. >> Yeah, I love it. >> Look at us sister wives. >> I'm a sister wife with your partner. >> No, I I I honestly sister W somehow.
genderless here. [laughter]. >> Just like the word [ __ ]. >> Yeah, >> bro. >> My mind's blown. >> Thank you all so much for tuning into. this episode. I'll see you next week. Bye.
