Rachel Sennott (FULL EPISODE) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

[music]. >> Hi, my name is Rachel Sennott and I feel. included about being Conan O'Brien's. friend. >> [music]. >> Hey there, welcome to Conan O'Brien. Needs a Friend. I am joined as always and I'm very. fortunate to be joined by Sona Movsesian. Yep. and Matt Gourley. Hi. What's going. on, gang? Well, our very own Eduardo is. actually going to do a career day at a.

high school to discuss what he does here. on this show. >> Oh my. god. Wait, so how did this unfold? >> Uh I have a cousin who teaches at Alta. Loma High School in Rancho Cucamonga. He. kind of knew what I did and was like, "Wait, who do you work for?" Right. And. he said, "Maybe you should come speak to. my students." [laughter] Cool. I think. so and I was really like up for it and I. was like, "Yeah, I'm totally down for. it. Let's do it." And then I was telling. these guys that it hit me yesterday that. I'm terrified about speaking to high.

schoolers tomorrow. Yeah. >> know how to market what I do, so maybe. you guys can give me some pointers on. like how would you Sona, you have. practice with this. >> is tighter with the high school. community than I am. Oh, no, no, no. Especially in Rancho Cucamonga, you are. speaking my language. Yeah. >> Well, you know, one of the things I. would say is if you were talking to. people that know the podcast and a lot. of people do, it'd be very easy. But. you're going to be talking to kids who. may not know what this is, but they know.

what podcasts are, right? >> I called my cousin as I had that panic. attack and I was like, "All right, prep. me. What's What's my audience?" And he's. like, "Look, there's a chance a lot of. them don't even know who Conan O'Brien. is.". >> Yeah. And I said, "Great." cuz I was. going to I was going to start with that, so that gets me nowhere. Um. But then I thought to gets me nowhere. >> [laughter]. >> Well, according to my cousin, not to me. I would say that was my instinct. No, no, and don't I don't take offense to. the phrase. >> [laughter]. >> Conan O'Brien gets me nowhere.

Which which maybe we should replace. Needs a Friend. [laughter] I say that. every morning when I wake up. >> Yeah. But then I thought. >> your teeth. Then I thought, "Okay, who. are some guests that we've had on that. maybe would resonate?" So I was like, "The first person that came to mind was. Billie Eilish and Finneas." I'm like, "Oh, that's a guest I could probably. pull and point to." Are there ANY OTHER. GUESTS? >> [laughter]. >> YES.

YES. YOU KNOW, WHENEVER I don't know. what to say to kids, I just bring up I. know Ram Emanuel and it kills. >> Perfect. Okay. Wait, great. What age? I. mean, it's freshman through juniors. >> all of high school. Oh my god. Do they. know like Daryl like Ryan Reynolds or. Han Solo, you know? Okay. Yeah. Okay. >> I don't know that Han Solo No, Deadpool. Deadpool. >> Ryan Reynolds would help us. I thought. about Al Pacino, but then I was like. >> No. No, they don't. They don't. That's like. saying I knew Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow. Wilson came in. Um Have we had the K-pop.

demon hunter girls on yet? >> No, but you would score. See, this is why I hunt tricks. Yeah, I'm in. >> Hey, I'm in. No, are you? 6'7". What is. Oh my god. That was so uncomfortable for me. I did. think about saying 6'7" like a bunch of. times. Just say 6'7". I've had I've had. some young people in the Philippines. shout 6'7" at me and I, you know, I. don't know what happened. >> Is 69 done? >> [laughter].

>> What? You're making it. In my life, yeah. >> [laughter]. >> It's been done for a while. >> that and like you remember when people. were like, "Turn to page 69." everybody. would giggle? We don't do Is that the. new. >> now. Okay. >> What's 6'7"? Uh no one seems to exactly. know. This is awful. Wow, no, Adam has. kids who are a little older than ours. My kids say it all the time. I they they couldn't really tell you. When I when I ask them what it means, they they do that and they and they say. that 6'7". But is it 69 related? No, not.

at all 69 related. It comes from. originally from a rap song. >> Correct. Talking about LaMelo Ball Yeah. NBA player. This is your opener. 6'7". What does that have to do with. podcasting? No, can I say something? I would say never. mention the podcast or what you do. Even. though you've been invited there to talk. about what you do, it's career day. Just. show up and go like, "Hey, 6'7". everybody. 6'7". Yo, yo, yo, 6'7". And. then um talk about how you like Billie. Eilish and then maybe talk Look up.

what's the latest thing that's trending. that's gone viral. >> going to show a clip of you on Hot Ones. maybe. >> Yes. Maybe like This is who I work for. >> people in people buried in graveyards. know that I did Hot Ones. So uh I mean, I'm talking about corpses. Corpses, long. dead corpses of pilgrims. Okay. >> People that died in the 1600s know that. I did Hot Ones. If the if he shows that. clip though, will they be like, "Who is. this guy?" Or you think they'll be like, "Oh, he seems cool.". >> say that lady looks insane.

>> [laughter]. >> That's what will happen. That lady looks like she's in great. distress. I hope that lady recovered. mentally. >> Can I say I do think that a lot of kids. in high school will know who you are. I. think so. I'm in a lot of making jokes, but you also you hosted the Oscars, you've done a lot of stuff. >> high schoolers love the Oscars. They're. [laughter] all over it. I did. They'll remember my costume changes. They'll you know, they'll be all over. it. >> I don't know. I think that a lot of. people know who you are. To give you. real advice is the more you can just.

keep it personal and grounded and just. about this is what I do. You know, you. listen to podcasts or when you hear of. them um because everyone they're. listening to some podcast, you don't. realize what the the uh. the technology that goes into what you. actually hear. I mean, that's cool. stuff. >> Yeah, I did think about setting up like. a little faux podcast setup in the. classroom and maybe Great. >> having them sit and just play the role. of host, play the role of guest. >> No, you're really good at setting up a. faux podcast studio.

Well, and you're cool. You're just. naturally very cool and likable, so you. should be fine. >> I started with a long prayer. Oh, no. Okay. They can be very intimidating, high school kids. >> It's three periods that I have to speak. to back to back to back. 30 minutes. each, so I'm Yeah, they're very scary. >> you, it hit me. I got terrified. You. know what? If you. can you show clips at all? Yeah, I can. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look through. I. don't know who we've talked to that. would resonate with high school. students, but Ryan Reynolds and and.

Billie Eilish. So two. How many episodes. came to mind? Oh, yeah, Michelle's. honor. That's a good one. How about Ayo. Edebiri? Is that how you Oh, yeah, Ayo. Edebiri. You see, I knew you'd get that. one. You know what? This makes me should. only be having. um people that high school students know. on the show for a month. But we should. do a month of just then we won't know. who they are. That's okay. They'll write. some notes for me. >> [laughter]. >> And then I'll know. You know, um Stop doing Okay, I'll know what I'm. doing. >> You you guys are killing it. I never.

birthed it. I know, but like when you. start saying it, that's when they're. like, "Ugh, no, now it's lame." But I'm. not trying to say it. to do it. Why don't we let's do 69 back? Oh, yes. You should just say I work for. someone who knows who knows A$AP Rocky. >> Who's in a movie with Who's in a movie. with A$AP Rocky. And then they'll be. like, "We don't know who she is, but. uh A$AP Rocky, yeah.". Yes, I love it. Okay, so get A$AP Rocky. on the podcast now that you brought him. up. He says he wants to do it. And Tyler.

the Creator. But he said it in that way. like I got to get rid of Conan. Hey, I should do your podcast someday. Uh man, I got to go. And then he's. suddenly unavailable all the time. >> Yeah. Okay, that's okay. calling him and. Rihanna picks up. And she's like, "He's. not here." and I hear him in the. background. "Good, honey, good.". >> [laughter]. >> "Good, honey, good. Good, honey, that's. >> [laughter]. >> good, just as I instructed.".

Who says just as I instructed? Good, honey, good. Good, honey, good. That's. how he talks. >> [laughter]. >> That's A$AP for you or as I called him. when I first met him, AKA Rocky. No, you. didn't. No, I didn't. [laughter] Oh my. god. I would have been horrified. >> OH MY GOD, AKA ROCKY. And he went, "It's A$AP." And he went, "Mhm, you suppose.". >> [laughter]. >> "You rapper, you." That's what I said. "Okay, honey." Well, I'll report back. All right. Yes, I want to hear how this. goes. >> I do, too. I want to hear how it goes. Unless it went badly and I don't want to.

hear a lot about how they knew nothing. about me. That's going to be horrifying. to me. Just make it up that they went. crazy. >> [laughter]. >> "We loved him in the early '90s." they. say. My guest today is an actress, comedian and writer who starred in the. hilarious movie Bottoms. Now you can see. her in the new HBO series which she also. created and co-wrote I Love LA. I'm very excited she's here today. Rachel Sennott, welcome.

I feel included about being Conan. O'Brien's friend. Woah. Okay, so that's. a sentence that doesn't make sense. phonetically or grammatically, but I what I'm thinking of is Do you. remember when we both gave speeches? Well, you hosted. I gave a speech. >> Yeah. Um What was the event? >> It was raising money for a children's. hospital. And I remember I took a big. cut. of what they raised that night.

>> That's part of my deal and the. children's hospital didn't know that and. they were [laughter]. And I said, "No, no, I get 80%." and. they were like, "But the children." I. said, "Fuck that." Remember that? Yeah, yes. And the children were there crying. And they were upset and you said, "Too. bad.". >> [laughter]. >> "Too bad, bitches.". But other than that, it was lovely. It. was so. >> that, [laughter]. they would have raised a lot of money. They would have. They raised actually. tons of money even still. >> [laughter]. >> The 20% that they got to keep. Um, I. want to start uh, I know we've already.

been talking and I've been really. looking forward to this because. uh, you came to my attention when I saw. Bottoms. I was really charmed by it. I. really liked it a lot. And then this. morning I woke up early cuz I'm jet. lagged from I was shooting in another. country. And so I I I watched it again this. morning. Bottoms? >> Bottoms. I watched it this morning. >> god. And I was just like, yep. >> wonder how it hits at like 6:00 in the. morning.

>> [laughter]. >> I'm like, it feels very different at. 6:00 in the morning. Uh, it's guess what? It still works. >> It still works? Okay, love it. >> It's really funny and and down to one. detail I love is the football players. play on a field that has a like a a. massive 200-year-old tree. >> [laughter]. >> on it that would never exist on a real. football field. But you guys had it. there because you needed [laughter]. something to happen and you didn't give. a and I loved it. I'm sorry I'm. swearing so much. I'm not going to do. that anymore. Are we not supposed to. swear? >> No, no. I I'm just doing it too much. I.

know, but I'm doing like I'm just a. sailor It's kind of cool and edgy. Yeah. It's making me want to swear. Well, I. shouldn't do it. I I it's not right. It's not right. >> right. >> I heard you were coming on the podcast. and I thought, why don't. I don't know what Rachel's promoting and. they said, well, she has this new show. It's going to be on HBO. We're sending you five episodes and I. thought, fine. You know, I'll watch one. I'll deign to. watch one because I my time is so.

precious. And last night my wife and I click on, we watch one, love it and I go, there's another one. We watch two. And I say, another one. We watch three, another one, four. And then my wife is. always going to bed at 9:30 and she's. like, I think I have to go to sleep and. I went, we're watching another one. And. suddenly I'm Mussolini yelling. >> [laughter]. >> Screaming at your wife. >> Yeah, yeah. Screaming at my wife, dogs, cats and I watched uh, five of I love LA. and it's really really fun. So, that's.

my that's my compliment up front. >> No, it's huge. I I feel like I do the. same thing when people send me like a. chunk of stuff and I I I was saying this. to you before. It's like, I'm like, I'll. skim through. I'll write down like three. moments that I like and then I'm done. And then I can reference them and be. like, see, I like all these three. moments. I watched the whole thing. So, watch it. Unless you're lying to my. face, but that's okay cuz I felt No, I'll never I'm a sociopath.

Me too. >> I'm people pleasing. Why do we have TO HAVE HER [laughter]. ON? I HATED EVERY SECOND OF IT. I HATED. EVERY SECOND OF IT. GET HER OUT OF. THERE. NO, but it I that means a lot. because I think like we wanted to create. that driving like my favorite shows that. I watched in college or like those. Sunday night shows where you leave and. you're like, I can't wait for next. Sunday and I want to know what like I. want that pull. And also like it's very. much of the generation, whatever, but I.

hope that it's funny to everyone. You. know what I mean? And you brings you. into the world and doesn't feel like. this is only for these people. Like it's. for hopefully for anyone who wants to. watch. a bunch of girls text each other and. talk and. >> [laughter]. >> hook up with people and talk and you. know. Well, I mean I might be a pervert, but. [laughter] You're also describing my. wife. You're like, um, that's my Wednesday, honey.

Matt is [laughter] Matt is constantly. texting me and sexting me and then yeah, and then we get together and we have a. Hailey Bieber shake and you know, so we. know we know what's. we know we know what's going on. Did you identify with one of the. characters more? Um. >> Did you feel like you're like, I'm. totally at Salula? >> [laughter]. >> Uh, I'm team Maya. Um, isn't that your. character, Maya? Yeah. Um, I identified.

with. the fact that I came from the East. Coast, uh, Boston, then went to school in. Boston, then left in this will really. date me, but 1985 with my writing. partner Greg Daniels and we went to LA. And I thought I had been dropped on the. surface of Mars and your show is very. much about someone who. comes from New York. and you come to LA and you think your.

friend is coming with you and then she. doesn't. >> Yeah. Uh, and that's Odessa's character. and so you think she's going to be. there, but she's not. She's she stays. and you have to make a go in LA. And I have to tell you, I remember that. so clearly. And so yes, the references. changed. There wasn't social media, there wasn't the kind of business that. your character's working in. Uh, there wasn't oat milk, there wasn't, you know, chai. We didn't have that. >> [laughter].

>> But what I remember is a. disaster. You guys didn't even have milk when you. came here. >> [laughter]. >> THERE WAS NO MILK EITHER. And there was. no Hailey Bieber shake. And there was. yeah, there was there was war rationing. cuz World War [laughter] had just ended. So, there was they put an embargo on all. Hailey Bieber smoothies back then. >> [laughter]. >> Cuz they knew she'd be born in like six. years. They needed the collagen FOR. THE WAR. >> [laughter]. >> SO, THAT DIDN'T EXIST. But what I. remember is, you know, when you worry about the.

references, the references can change, but the fundamental elements don't. change, which is it's horrifying. to come out to LA when you grow up in. that other coast. And I was horrified. I. hated this place for a year and a half. Absolutely hated it. >> for amount of time to hate it to feel. like, what the is going on, you. know? Like I also just felt like weird. Like everyone was like, you talk so fast. and you're really stressed. Like it's. like [laughter]. and it.

like you're like, I need to get on your. guys' level, but I can't, you know? It's. crazy. Yeah. [laughter] You can't. because Matt and I are the locals and. we're like, it is fast. I feel [laughter] scared about going to. New York. That scares me. scared, too. Same thing. The rhythm's different. >> Sona has been my assistant for a really. long time and Sona came with me. I think it was 2011. or 12 and you came to New York and Sona. has grown up here. She freaked out about. cabs. I remember you freaking out about.

cabs and saying, I don't want to sit in. there. Other people have sat there, too. YOU MAKE [laughter] ME SOUND LIKE SUCH a. princess. >> But I'm sorry, you were. >> weird. It is weird. It is weird. Uh, but. you know, it is it's a completely. different rhythm on these. It's so much. more intense. You're like, I have my car. that I cry in and I eat lunch in out of. a container. car. >> [laughter]. >> I puke in my car, not a stranger's car. with other people's puke.

No, you have your like your haven. [laughter] and your space and then it's. it's so jarring and weird and then like. you I feel like also once you've lived. on both, you're never over either. Like. it feels like I'm like I it's like I. forever have like two boyfriends or. divorced parents or something where I'm. like, yes. You're constantly it's a push. and pull. >> And people always say to me, they want. me to declare Yeah, LA sucks. I like New. York or you know, I'm done with New. York. It's LA, man. And it's not neither.

one is true. I Now I like them both. I. see the strength of both. I think there. are clichés about LA that just aren't. true. I think because LA is a much. larger surface area, there's so many. different neighborhoods that are. constantly I mean, everyone gets. gentrified eventually, but they keep. inventing new neighborhoods where. artists can live. >> [clears throat]. >> And I think there is is amazing art. artistic output in Los Angeles. It's.

just not shoved in your face. You can't. just walk down into Greenwich Village. and there it is. Meanwhile, in New York, I think it's I don't know how an artist. would survive in New York now because. it's it's everything's a gap and you. know. Everything's oh, an actual gap. Yeah, and I was like, [laughter]. Yeah, there's a gap of. and then I was like, no, a gap at Gap or. Zara. It's a gap at Zara. A friend of mine and. [laughter] I were walking around and we. tried to find CBGB's and it's it's like. uh,

a Varvatos store. Is it? And and we were. in a like this store and we were looking. at the old CBGB's and we were trying to. remember like, how's this layout how's. the layout? And a guy who worked there. who was trying to show us like a jean. jacket said, oh, no, no, the stage was. over here. You know, ignore these. these beautiful pants. This was the. stage [laughter]. and that's where the Talking Heads. performed and that's where the Ramones. were and I'm just like, >> are by the blazers. Yeah. And you're like, [laughter] fabulous. I. can feel the history.

in here. Wow. The $90 t-shirts. >> [laughter]. >> That's that's where Blondie performed. >> [music]. >> But anyway, I I love them both. Yeah, me too. >> and then the other thing is you inhabit. this other world that I have some. familiarity with, which is. writer/performer. I mean, you've written so much pretty.

much all the stuff that you've been in. Haven't you written just about. everything? I guess starting beginning. of my career, so Ayo and I did a Comedy. Central series like web series together. that was like three episodes. Shiva Baby. my I didn't write. My friend Emma. Seligman who directed it wrote. >> Yeah. And then Emma and I wrote Bottoms. together. And then this I wrote. This. was the first time I think this was the. most I ever thought as an actor or like. on set I'm like barely thinking about.

acting because I'm directing I directed. the finale. >> Right. You wear a lot of hats in the. >> it was. it was yeah it was like and then. prepping and then we're rewriting stuff. but then we're editing the show while. we're shooting it. The good thing is my. character is like stressed so I was just. like. >> [laughter]. >> I don't have to go you know what I mean? You should make all of your characters. stressed. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> I kind of have in a way. It's like I'm. kind of either stressed or stupid or. both. It's like one of the I there's. like two sides to me and the.

it's somewhere in that space. A stressed. stupid young woman. Yeah. That's. [laughter]. whenever I if I ever have to. >> car. Yeah. >> If I ever have to pitch you something if. I write a script and I want to pitch. pitch it to you I'm going to start. everything with a smart stupid woman. [laughter] Mhm. Stressed. Moves from LA to New York or. New York LA. >> [laughter]. >> But it was it was like um yeah I think. it's like. you know this it's like balancing those. things and being like which kind of.

which role do I need to be the most. today like there was a day like there. are some days on set where I was like. I'm more of a writer today than an. actor. I'm directing today but then. there were days like there was a day. that I had like a. multiple sex scenes which by the way oh. my god this was so funny because it was. like all the sex stuff in the show I'm. like I wrote or was in the room for. writing and I think like.

for me like sex and stuff like sex if. you're going to show it in a show or. movie like it should be like funny it. should tell you something about the. relationship cuz I think if I look at my. relationships I can immediately tell. like where we are based off of like how. the sex is. Do you know what I mean? Definitely. Okay. >> feel that way too? You're talking to the. wrong guy. Okay. >> [laughter]. >> I'm literally a virgin. I just mean okay. sorry. I agree with I agree with you.

No well then explain what you mean. >> Well it's very different in the. beginning than it is. >> explain what is sex. Oh sorry. [laughter] What goes where? Oh okay. totally. >> Show me what's alls. Oh my god. No no. I'm KIDDING I'M KIDDING. BUT but anyway. um Yeah I know what you mean. >> Yes yes. Yes yes like where I was like I. want all of the sex to feel like it's in. the show for a reason basically. >> Well in the the pilot episode. >> Yeah. opens with you and your boyfriend. having sex and what's funny about it is.

an earth I'm not giving anything away. cuz it's the beginning of the first. episode and I thought it was a really. good opening. It's LA so as there's an. earthquake and he's like oh my god. there's an earthquake but you're close. to orgasming and you just want it to. keep it going so you tell him I think. it'll be all right it'll be all right. and then he's the earthquake stops you. keep going and then the earthquake. starts again and he's like no I think we. really have to like. get out of the building right now and. you're like. I'm. I'm almost there. Can you just choke me?

>> [laughter]. >> AND I WAS LIKE OKAY. THERE'S A. familiarity here. >> Yes. that happens when you're in a. committed relationship. >> Yes. There's a familiarity but there's. also and a little it's. >> Yes. it's a little like utilitarian. >> Yes it's almost like do the three things. that I need really quick. Yeah yeah. [laughter] yeah. Like I'm almost there. You did one and two finish her finish. her off you know. >> was not. >> [laughter]. >> to your point it was not in any way. gratuitous it was funny.

>> Yeah. and it was telling me right away. how your character's funny these people. are. connected in a very familiar way and so. yes you're right it was not just we open. on sex scene so that we can get the. viewers in it was it accomplished a. purpose. >> It accomplished a purpose but it was it. was really funny to me on this specific. show because like we of course had an. intimacy coordinator but she would like. I would have a conversation with her as. like the showrunner and be like you know.

like we want to hear what the actors are. comfortable with ideally this scene. accomplishes like this sort of feeling. or like we like to shoot it this way. whatever and then she would call up the. actors but so I would have the. conversation with her as the showrunner. and she would be like totally and then. she calls like 30 minutes later and. she's like so this is what they're. thinking. I'm [laughter] like. I just talked to you last. She's like. you tell me what you feel comfortable. with. >> [laughter]. >> In the script. >> in the script you're giving a. >> Yeah yeah. Do we even want to go there?

I'm like I wrote that. I'm like. >> [laughter]. >> what? And so she's like I know but but. are we going to do that and I was like. >> [laughter]. >> yes oh yes like so that was so funny and. sort of bizarre like going at that from. like two angles whatever. >> But like. there was a day on set where I had like. an an emotional scene and then like. I'm not going to say what is happening. because it's it's sort of give something. away but sort of two two sex scenes in a.

day sort of it was like sex scene sex. scene lunch beans for lunch and then and. then [laughter] like emotional cry scene. and that day I was like today I'm an. actor. Like today I was like and that's. when you have your team of other support. like I'm like MF there's questions about. ults. you got it girl. I'm naked and I'm. crying. You know what I mean? But then. on another day you put on the other hat. and you're like today I can answer the. questions about that. So it was it was.

interesting like balancing those but. like finding what thing you were leaning. more into on the day. If that makes. sense. Well what makes sense to me is a. lot of my career starting with the late. night show I can use my thinking head. when we're thinking during the day and. we're working on the show and then when. it's time to go it's 5:30 guests are. here band is playing I need to get. makeup on and I need to let all that go. and then be the guy who's just in it and.

if the. guest put something out there that's a. surprise drop everything you thought. about and go that way. >> Go there. >> And go there because that's what's. happening right now and I found that. I don't know if you can relate to this. as an East Coast Catholic. what I can you know you're Italian is. that right? >> Half half Sicilian half Irish. Okay my. god you're screwed. >> [laughter]. >> Well I as an as a 100% Irish and but. we're we both come from very similar. stuff and what I can relate to is.

there's this combination of restraint. and busting through the restraint and. that's where this magical thing happens. >> but we like control. We like control but. also we secretly love the loss of. control. >> I know. Sorry. I almost was like girl yes. >> call me trust [laughter] me you can call. me girl. No I was just saying that I. mean that's the whole Catholic thing. >> It's a yin yang. >> That's where yes that's why it's like. it's like you're like why are why are. you guys freaks? Not saying you're a.

freak but I'm just saying Catholics do. you know what I mean? Cuz you're like. you have you live in this push and pull. of like control not control whatever but. I feel yeah I'm always reaching for. control whatever but the most beautiful. things happen sometimes when you just. are like in flow free flowing and you're. right it's like those things are a gift. and like when something goes wrong on. set or whatever it turns into the. funniest moment or the most beautiful. moment but I feel that way too where I'm.

a planner I like to know what's. happening. >> Which is good. That's the lesson of all. of this is it's not good versus bad it's. you need both. And there's another part. of this that I find fascinating which I. know nothing about and I'm you know. freely admit I know nothing about it but. you play someone who. your best friends with somebody she's an. influencer. you were helping her be an influencer. the idea was you were both going to move. out to LA and you're going to manage. your friend who's an influencer. She.

decides to stay in New York you go it. alone and so you're working at a company. where you're. managing or helping to take care of. influencers. I know nothing about that. but I also know that it's a huge part of. an industry right now maybe the. industry. I haven't seen it depicted. yet. >> Yeah. >> And what I liked was I was watching the. show and I was thinking oh my god you're. right these influencers who. make [clears throat] a funny video or a.

meme and they're holding a bag a certain. bag they that is a business they're. making a lot of money they're they're. they're getting sent a lot of products. and of course there'd be a management. system for them and I don't know. anything about it. I mean no one's. people actively don't want me making. videos where I hold a product. Yeah I. actually want that. I'm like afterwards. we'll do a video of you in this bag. >> [laughter]. >> I've been paid a lot of money not to not. to hold products. >> Yeah exactly. No but I felt like I'm so.

happy you say that cuz we kept talking. about the show like a reference point. being like Entourage for internet it. girls. >> [snorts]. >> Because we were like I feel like we've. seen Hollywood done a lot and I feel. like the internet is such its own world. and business and it's not separate from. Hollywood there's crossover but I think. like I was like this is how I came up. I. came up being online any of my friends.

who are like working in this industry. now came up online. I also know people. who just do that that's their only job. is like the internet and their videos or. fashion or whatever and so. I was just really like I don't know. I. think it's I think also like. the internet people like sometimes. struggle to show the internet in film. and TV because it moves so quickly. Yes. It's It's evolving so rapidly that if.

you try and depict it and your project. isn't coming out for 9 months, by the. time it comes out, people are like, "Well, that's lame. >> Yeah, it's dated. >> It's very dated and so I was like, the. way we tried to do it was make our own. internet in the show where it moves and. lives and breathes in the same way like. the internet does, but we don't. reference anything specific. It's like. we create our own like in episode 3 with. Dylan and, you know, the. you know what I'm talking about, but.

like those things where it's like it. it's it exists in the same way as it. does for us where it like informs all. the characters' lives. It's part of. their lives and their business, but we. don't it doesn't hopefully doesn't feel. clunky or like yeah, we we got it. You. know what I mean? Cuz no one wants to. see the other thing we kind of took from. Entourage is like you don't see too much. of like Vince acting. You see like.

his world and his like friend group and. their with their dynamics, but it's like. you that's what he does, but you don't. see it. Like it's like we don't need to. see Tallulah posting every second. Like. we got it. >> Dick Van [clears throat] Dyke Show, which is the, you know, oldest reference. I can come up with. This is literally. >> [laughter]. >> It literally starts They That show. literally starts before I was born. >> [laughter]. >> So, it's old even for me. But when I was. growing up, that was a show about. for you kids out there listening to this. interview, that was a show about uh a.

comedy writer. Mhm. And that had not. been depicted yet because they think. this is a time when, you know, people. are everything's so meta now. People all. know behind the scenes. Everyone's so. savvy. But back then, people honestly. didn't think that People were writing. jokes. Yeah. You know, that. [clears throat] that's just Lucy. Lucy's. kooky. No, no, she has writers and they. work all of this out and it's but. so it was a show about a comedy writer. and what they never did was they never. really showed you the sketches. >> Yeah. >> And I thought it was all them.

well, I think we got it for today and. then it was about their lives around. that. >> Yes. And it's the same thing. >> Yeah. All these years later, I always. it's uh Pulp Fiction. Yeah. >> They never show you what's in the. suitcase. Mhm. It's just a light. And. it's such a smart thing to do, but. that's Tarantino saying there's this. thing that's incredibly valuable and. everybody wants it and you don't even. need to know any more than that. >> that's what. That's what matters. Yeah, what you said. about the Dick Van Dyke Show, Yep. which.

I'm familiar with, but haven't really. given it a full dive in. It's in black. and white. Okay. Should I check it out? >> I'll colorize it for you. >> Okay, perfect. You'll put it in little. 30-second clips and you'll cut it. together. >> [laughter]. >> with a video of someone playing with. >> Yeah. slime next to it. And then I can watch it. No, it'll be. someone unwrapping unwrapping a box and. then Dick Van Dyke's in there doing his. stick. >> I love it. In 10-second clips and I'll. go, "Ooh." Yeah. Um but like yeah, it's. like the lives around It's like the same.

thing. The other thing is I was like, "Nothing is really new." Like I think I. felt certain times during this where it. was like I've got to make something. totally new and like, you know, you're. going to be compared to things and you. want to do your own thing, but it's like. everything is like from what comes. before it, but you have to take, you. know, your own blend of references and. ideas and hope it's like. it both like at the end of the day. people are people like relationships are.

like this era, the moment of like your. late 20s is always oh, I want to know. about if you had a Saturn return. Should. I ask you about that? >> What? A Saturn return. No, I don't know. what Yeah. Is that. >> going to tell me right now? No, I'm 32. So. >> Okay. Wait, what is. >> you a Saturn A Saturn return is like end. of your 20s. Oh, oh my god. I thought. you were going to return a car, the. Saturn because of a defect. >> [laughter]. >> That's where I went. So, I thought,

"Well, if you're not happy with the. Saturn Yeah. Do you think Joe couldn't. return her Saturn cuz she's 32? >> Joe couldn't return her Saturn. >> the policy that they have. The car. company's been defunct for 15 years at. least. [laughter] Yeah. I don't even. know what I'm talking about. know cuz. Dick Van Dyke drove a Saturn. Dick Van drove drove a. >> [laughter]. >> black and white Saturn. No, um I want to. know about this. >> Yeah, like I want to know your story. >> I am. Okay. Let Tell me what Saturn. return means. >> Okay, I have so many I'm going to maybe. need to pull up your chart or like dive.

in. Cuz do you know what sign you are? I'm an Aries. An Aries. >> Yeah. What does that mean to you if I. say Aries? >> Aries, you're a Virgo with a backbone. Okay, I don't understand. >> Okay, totally. Okay. >> that's kind of a. >> [laughter]. >> Do you know your rising and your moon? >> No, I don't. >> Okay, we'll find it later. >> But But but basically an Aries is like. fire. Right. >> Don't mess with you, but you have like. an order to you. Like you could have a. you A temper isn't what I would say, but.

it's like fiery and it's like don't mess. with me. Don't mess with the people I. love. >> I have. I can be intense. >> You can be intense. You can. I think cuz. you're particular about how you like. your comedy to be. >> Yeah. And I think if people hinder that. or or overwork you in a certain way. >> so many things that I don't care about. And then if it comes to comedy. Yeah. something where I'm supposed to be. funny, if someone's getting in the way,

I become like an insane Viking. >> Yes. with a broadsword. >> Yes. Yes, you have your [laughter] your. hills that you'll die on. You're like, "This is what I care about.". >> very passive-aggressive? Aries? >> Yeah. Or are they just aggressive? >> I think that's the Catholic. Oh. >> [laughter]. >> I think that's not astrology. I think. that's something else. So, tell me We're. all but we're made we're made up of all. of it. But let's let's get to this thing. because you talk about it in the show. and it's really fascinating because I've. had this experience of um. well, I know exactly when it happened, but it's happened a bunch of times.

>> Yeah. When I'm in New York, I go we do. sometimes tape podcasts in New York when. I'm there and we do them at SiriusXM, which is in Midtown right across from. Rockefeller Center, my old stomping. ground. And I'll go into the lobby and. there've been a couple of times where. there was one time in particular where. there were a bunch of young women who I. think were waiting to gather. >> Yes. >> lunch and they saw me and they came. over. They said, "Can we get a selfie?". And I said, "Sure." And I just started. chatting with them about how's it going? What's up? And gave them a little bit of.

advice, probably like the advice I gave. you cuz I'm constantly lecturing. >> [laughter]. >> young people. But um at one point they. some of the women started talking about, "Oh my god, I'm so old." And I said, "How old are you?" And they're like, "We're 28." And I. I like I wasn't eating anything, but I. started choking on imaginary food. [laughter]. >> Yeah. I was I was doing a spit take with. no water. I was like, "What are you. You're 28 and you're talking about how. old you are?" And I forgot. that just sounds insane to me right now.

But I do remember getting out of. college, moving out to LA, turning 23, then turning 24 and. thinking, "Oh my god, it's over for me.". >> so [laughter] over. I And so I basically. yelled at these people and said, "You. have no idea how young you are." But I. know that um. you know, your character has her 28th. birthday and it's kind of traumatic and. I think, "What? What is a Saturn. returns?". >> It's So, I It's like 3 years, but.

there's like a period in it. It's. different. It happens sometime between. 27 and 30 and it's basically like your. reckoning of like I feel like it shakes. up your life, which is why I'm. interested to hear like if you can. remember something from the end of your. 20s. >> Oh, you bet I can. You bet I can. >> and I'm guessing it's your Saturn return. because it shakes everything up and then. like you go through a breakup or you. lose a job or you blah blah blah, whatever, something chaotic. And by the. way,

>> a huge one. Can't freaking wait. But. it's like you feel like. >> She said that in a way like, "Please. don't ever tell me.". >> No, I love wait. >> [laughter]. >> I shut up. Go ahead. That's okay. It's. okay. I was just saying it's like it. happens to everyone, but it feels like. it's only happening to you and then it. lands you where you're meant to be. Oh. >> It's kind of but tell me your story. Oh, it's so simple, which is. uh. I'm 29. I'm a. writer-producer on The Simpsons. Everything should be good, but I think,

"No, I'm not where I'm supposed to be. Something is else is supposed to. happen.". >> feels weird. >> I just was And I remembered my agent at. the time saying, "Well, you could get an. overall deal to be at The Simpsons for 5. more years and you could make, you know, And I was like, "No. No, I can't take. that because something's supposed to. happen.". >> Yes. One of the crazier things in show. business. happens, which is David Letterman. doesn't get the Tonight Show and he. suddenly announces, "I'm leaving," which. no one thought he would do. And suddenly NBC doesn't have a.

late-night show at 12:30. They don't. know what to do cuz this is back before. the internet. So, today they would look. at 700. >> Tik Tok for talent. >> a million people who are viable and. they'd be 900 hours of everybody. >> Yeah. But they don't have that. >> Yeah. And these jobs back then, there. weren't there were two talk late-night. talk shows. That's it. >> Yeah. Um or just at that point it was. just one or maybe two. And they're. the main guy, David Letterman, has left.

or is leaving, announces he's leaving. soon in a couple of months. They don't. know what to do. So, NBC says, "Well, we. got to keep the affiliates in line. Let's just get Lorne Michaels to. decide." and that calms everybody down. like oh good Lorne Michaels Saturday. Night Live he'll just he'll figure it. out. Lorne goes looking it's a long. story but cut cut to him just in a room. saying there was this writer who worked. for us. who's got something. Conan O'Brien and they're like what and.

I you do an audition. I'm so loose in the audition cuz I think. I'll never get this. >> Yeah. and then one thing leads to another they. say no it's going to be Garry Shandling. it'll never be you and then suddenly. they go you know it's him. and they call me I'm at in the basement. of The Simpsons and they say you're. going to take over this massive job. there's no footage of you everything I'd. ever done. >> [clears throat and cough]. >> was on stage. there's nothing I don't even have a. headshot. >> and.

everyone freaks out and. that's what happened and. >> That's a pretty common Saturn return. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. but you know that was. that was how I end and that all happened. the audition everything happened when I. was 29 and then I am waiting to hear. back and I have my 30th birthday in my. LA apartment on Weatherly and then a. couple of days after my 30th birthday. You got the call. >> the call. Yeah. >> that your life's changed.

>> [laughter]. >> Saturn. return. What was your Saturn return? Working for you getting my job working. for you. >> You were that's right you were in your. late 20s. >> 27 well 26 I turned 27 and that changed. that changed my life I mean working for. you it's been it's been cool it's been. okay. >> [laughter]. >> Wow ringing endorsement. It really has I. mean it's like everything changed once. that happened. >> Matt? Well mine. was yeah I went through a really bad. breakup and uh. just took a month off work and uh.

had the same lunch every day at this bar. and went home and watched got high and. watched a James Bond movie. >> You showed up. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah that sounds. real nice. Oh she could see me now. But. I started thinking I'm going to read. every Shakespeare play and it was like. in two days it was like I'm just going. to watch every James Bond movie. >> Yeah yeah. And that was that for about a. month and then I look back on it so. nostalgically now though it was a hard. time but now I'm really fond of it. >> No but it for it shapes you.

>> I went through. >> [laughter]. >> I went through a uh. I went through a bad breakup in New York. that was prior to all this and I I. remembered I got a Seamus Heaney poetry. >> book oh my god I kept it in my back. pocket and I would lie down on park. benches in Manhattan and read from a. poetry book and I thought this is who I. am now and then [laughter] three days. later I was like I got to get a job. I. got to get a. >> and I went out to LA and worked on The. Simpsons but I I. >> [laughter]. >> I remember thinking for a minute this is. who I am now.

>> This is who I am. I'm a park bench 20. >> [laughter]. >> 28 year old who reads Seamus Heaney. poetry. You're lying down. I'm a hobo. You're like a romantic hobo. >> romantic hobo. The worst was that the. lunch I had every day was a I went to an. Irish pub and I had a corned beef. sandwich a deep fried Snickers bar and a. Guinness every single day. >> god. I know I can't believe I'm alive I. know. >> That's fabulous. >> [laughter]. >> And that's why I stand before you the. way I am here today. You're incredible. >> Well Rachel it feels to me like you've. had nine of these in your teens and 20s.

like you've had. I had like mini ones. >> You well mini ones you've you've got a. very big jump on a career at a very. early age. I feel I think yes but I I I feel also. like I had a lot of like. I don't know I think a lot of people in. my my age and younger feel like there've. been a lot of like setbacks like it's. like like basically like Shiva Baby was. so supposed to premiere at South by and.

then it was canceled cuz of COVID and. then I was like oh my god my career is. over cuz of COVID like when is this. going to end whatever. then [snorts] we get back into the. industry we get to make Bottoms Bottoms. comes out during the strike and like. there's there's I think like and you. couldn't promote it during the strike? >> Couldn't promote it during the strike. >> that I remember that. But the girls on. Tik Tok did it for us literally. literally shout out because I was like. they they took the movie and ran with it. and that was amazing but I think like I.

felt sort of a similar thing to you. which is like. basically like. I think you get the early 20s are really. chaotic I was like I don't know what I'm. doing by the mid 20s I was like. not The Simpsons but I you have your you. have your stuff where you feel like okay. I've got my thing I know what I'm doing. and then just all of a sudden like. something feels wrong and you're like I. don't know what it is and you sort of. like sit in something feeling wrong for. like.

two years or a year whether it be a. relationship or being like I'm not quite. doing like I'm doing what I want to be. doing but I'm not doing it all the way. or I need whatever. and like you have to make that leap like. I don't know if when you said I'm not. doing an overall deal at The Simpsons. your agent said you're a idiot. >> He did say that. >> Okay awesome and it's like because. you're like I don't have the next job I. don't know what it is I feel something. >> [snorts]. >> I for me like I think it was like. the jump of.

of fully stepping into a creator role on. my own is really [clears throat] scary I. think I've always felt. insecure in myself as like a. writer on my own I just in general I. feel like I'm like I I feel like I'm a. good like pep talker cheerleader I get. like I get to do list done but I never. really thought like I'm that talented I. in in general I think I'm just like more. of a hard worker than I am talented.

>> But that's you know that that's how. everybody feels. I think being hard working is is a good. part of it. >> No but that's how I would have I mean. everybody has that. Yeah. Not I I I. don't. that's just so common. that um you know I I. always thought that well I get by cuz I. work I can outwork anybody and I do my. homework. >> And then it was a long time and and look.

all all these years later I still have. those days. We all have that. >> When you show me someone who is uh an. artist of any kind and they have no. insecurity and they have no doubt and. they have no fear I think I have no. interest in seeing their art none I just. have none. >> But it's it's scary and it's like you. there's a difference between being in. someone else's thing and being a part of. it and knowing like well if it doesn't.

go well I can say hey I'm just the actor. or like I just did I didn't you know. what I mean like I had no control. >> to step into a role where you're like. oh if people hate this they hate me like. you not actually but kind of like I'm. like I there's no I'm like it's like my. name my name I'm like it's me it's I'm. naked in it I wrote it I'm the like it's. very vulnerable and so I like while I. was in the process of waiting to see if.

the show got picked up. I had like done the pilot I was waiting. to see if the show got picked up. >> you're waiting to hear from HBO. >> And I am like having to say no to other. things. and it's really scary because I'm like I. don't know if the show is happening I. don't know if I'm good enough I go. through a breakup I get arrested in the. Cayman Islands it's. Wait a minute. WAIT A MINUTE. >> WOAH. and this all happened in one.

month. What happened in the Cayman. Islands? I brought this is on me but I. brought a CBD joint in my back it was I. didn't even do it on purpose it was like. I had like a left over CBD joint that I. bought in a grocery store in like the. back of my purse and then they really. search your bag like they search your. bag she's like taking out my vibrator. I'm like girl put that away in the. middle of the airport [laughter]. like they search your bag and she was. like do you have any drugs on you and I. was like I do not have drugs on me so.

then like I was like like why would I. have drugs but then I didn't know CBD. was also legal so then she finds a CBD. so then I got in trouble for lying about. the. >> Cayman Islands is the hub of white. collar crime and they bust you for a CBD. joint. >> Yes. and I was they took my phone away. >> [snorts]. >> shout out shout the out Claire my. assistant who's out there you met her. she thought I was kidnapped so they take. my phone and my passport I'm in jail for. like five hours nothing Claire thinks.

I've been kidnapped cuz she's calling. the hotel she's like has anyone seen. Rachel some people at the hotel had seen. me getting into an unmarked white van. >> [snorts]. >> so then Claire which is how [laughter]. they take people to jail there What the. and so then Claire is like she's. been kidnapped so then Claire is like. calling the embassy literally. >> assistant cuz. Sona in the same situation. >> [laughter]. >> if they said uh we've heard reports that. Conan's gone he's not at his hotel he's. been taken in a white van you'd be like. all right well let me know Yeah I'm in. the clubs. I'm in the clubs.

I'LL BE LIKE IS A JOINT OKAY? >> [laughter]. >> AND TELL ME MORE ABOUT THIS JOINT. DID. THEY THROW THAT AWAY CAN THEY MAIL it. back can they should send that back to. us? >> [laughter]. >> I might need to look at that. I should. look at that. Keep him give me the. joint. Were you scared or were you. pretty confident with it? >> I was I was I was scared I think I was. also just having a breakdown in my life. where I was literally like I don't have. a show I just I just turned down. these other like jobs. I am like in the middle of a breakup.

with my boyfriend and now I'm in jail I. was like wait a second I was just like I. got really freaked out where I was like. I was crying in there and then I started. telling the girl about my breakup and um. >> [laughter]. >> it was just all anyways. Claire called my lawyers and they knew a. lawyer in the Cayman Islands who came. and got me out of jail. Oh wow. So um it. was all it was all fine. I just had to. apologize on camera and get a mug shot. and I do have a record there. It's okay. I love it. This is I mean I know I.

wanted the it's It's badass. I wanted. the picture so bad. I was like please. send me the mug shot. They did let me. put on makeup for the mug shot which was. I thought really sweet. I was like I've. been traveling, I'm sweating. She was. like you can you can go into your bag. for mascara. Um but that was all like in. one month and then I got back. from the Cayman Islands and the show got. picked up. And then it was my birthday. My 29th birthday. So mine maybe came a. little earlier than yours but now I just.

had my 30th birthday right before the. show comes out. So it's it's very like. it feels like I don't know it feels like. a very like mystical time where. everything is like shifting and whatever. but I felt so out of control that whole. time and I was like I don't know why I. just feel like I have to trust. Yeah. But it's that same thing where it's like. you don't know. >> Well here's what I'll tell you. I am. very confident that people are going to. love your show. I am and um cuz I know.

youth culture. Uh-oh. No no I I. No it's yeah. It's really well done. It's [laughter] your show is really well. done. I am confident that people are. going to really like this show cuz I was. binge watching it and uh and really. impressed. And I think you're very. impressive. I thought so when when we got to talk. and I met you um. and I'm a huge fan and I'm just excited. to do to see all the things you're going. to do. I really am. So just we're going.

to wrap it up as I want to let you go. and make more cool things but. um I'm a cheerleader. I'm an old. dottering cheerleader on the side and uh. I'm really happy for you. I'm that. really means a lot and especially you. watching all in a row means a lot to me. cuz I know you've seen. I'm like you thinking it's funny means a. lot because you're the funniest. So Aw. that's sweet. Thank you. All right. Yeah. I thought I'd bring it sincere at the. end. Um thank you so much for having me.

>> This was amazing. Thank you so much for. doing it. This was great and you came in. and hugged everybody and I've never. touched these people. >> [laughter]. >> He won't even look us in the eye. I didn't have I hadn't met you till. today. It's nice to see you. >> [laughter]. [music]. >> Hey Sona, uh quick question. You were. talking about something that intrigued. me when I entered the room and then uh. you quickly changed the topic. I got the. sense that you are babysitting even. though you have twin 4-year-old boys who.

take up a lot of your time. Why are you. taking on a babysitting gig? What's. going on? >> My friend has a baby who's about 9. months old almost 9 months old and um. they just need somebody for just a. couple hours every week. >> doing this for? For funsies. Here's can. I tell you something? >> No, you don't get to talk on this. podcast. >> Okay. All right. >> This is a podcast where. >> questions. >> white men blow V8. >> [laughter]. >> You be quiet. I'll handle this. >> Yeah. Yeah you take over what I'm going to.

pass the ball over to the other white. guy. Star Wars. Here's what I don't understand. I don't. understand you have twin boys. >> Yes, I do. and Mikey and Charlie and. they are a handfill. >> Sure are. Excuse me? Did you say. handfill? Yeah. [laughter] Handful. >> No, handfill. I changed it. It's when. you never mind. What were you going to say handfill? What are you doing? [laughter] What are. you doing? What are you doing? What is. your problem? What are you.

talking about? What are you talking. about? Did you were you going to say something. really inappropriate? No. it's all coming out. It's all coming out. I mean I'm EDITING IT OUT. NO you're not. [laughter] GOING TO EDIT OH OH SO IF I. make a mistake it stays in Yes. and if. you become. >> YES THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE IN MY. life is that. >> [laughter]. >> I don't know what he's talking about. What I'm saying I misspoke slightly and. said handfill instead of handful. Yeah. we we both made fun of you. It was fun.

We had a good time. It's Conan's. bleeding into his brain. Come on. So as. he ages he's falling apart. Haha. But [laughter] that's not what we're. going to talk about. You have twin boys. who are very young. How old are they? Three? They're four. Four. Uh. >> [laughter]. >> still that's very young. Yeah, they are. And then you took on you were like hey. throw that 9-month-old my way. Well so. here's the thing. My kids go to school. and then you know I'm working on my. second book but that's really all I've.

got going on. If I'm not here. >> material? And then chapter No but I got. a 9-month-old. I I have to say I had. twins and it we were really in it and. now I'm watching one baby and it's not. that hard. Like babies they eat and they. like you go you go for a walk and then. they sleep and then you play and it's. fun. >> anyone out there who's having a hard. time with one child Sona Movsesian? I'm. just saying if you've had two one after. having twins is.

more manageable. >> Okay so why don't you tell Why are you. complaining? >> [laughter]. >> I'm not complaining. No, I know. >> I I agree. It's fun. It's so much fun. watch baby. >> Are you getting paid? No, of course not. They're my friends. >> anything and not demand your share. Are. you paying to do it? I I mean no not at. I I'm having fun doing it. I like. hanging out with this kid. He's a really. fun baby. He's really sweet. He has a. little bit of separation anxiety which. is tough. And then you know we're just.

we're just chilling. Okay. Do you have. moments be honest when the baby's. melting down and you. you're not happy with the gig. No, I. don't. I'm being serious. I don't. I. like it. And I you know what? Maybe I'll. be a nanny now. Maybe this is it for me. Maybe I'm going. to quit this job You would leave this. job and be a nanny? >> [laughter]. >> I'm not hearing a Is this a resignation? Do you have something she could sign? I. basically babysat you for 12 years. You did not.

>> [laughter]. >> I was a very emotionally mature adult. Wow. Even as I said it my jaw felt [laughter]. started to rot off. I. uh I agree with you that um you did. babysit me. And I at sometimes. was incre incredibly immature I suppose. You have to coddle a genius. Okay. I don't. What do you mean? You don't. have to coddle. Do you? Yes. >> Okay, I don't know. You're saying you're.

a genius. What part of that sentence did you not. understand? Do I stutter? >> [laughter]. >> No whatever. Excuse me? >> [laughter]. >> YES. THAT'S A GENIUS WAY of saying. handful. I don't like to say the things. that everyone says. I like to invent new. ways of communicating. [laughter]. I think you're a real handfill. You filled my hand with your problems. It's mine is it just cuts through I. guess Joyce used a lot of language that. people didn't understand. >> Okay.

And then Joyce Kulhawik she was a. broadcaster in Boston. Do you know who he's talking about? Joyce Kulhawik. He laughed so hard. I'm twisting cuz he he was talking about. James Joyce and then he twisted it. Hey. you really enjoy my humor. No I don't. enjoy your humor. >> By the way if you grew up in the Boston. area shout out to JOYCE KULHAWIK. SHOUT. OUT. Shout out to Joyce Kulhawik. Shoot. the noob. Shoot the noob with Joyce. Kulhawik. She's not She was a big star when I was. growing up in in Boston. In local news?

Yeah. Oh I I had no idea who she was. Oh. okay. We're okay. Okay, we just lost all. of everyone. >> us down a comedy cul-de-sac. Nope. I'm. checking right now and our You took us. down a comedy handfill. >> [laughter]. >> Woah look at this our numbers in. Roxbury, Massachusetts have just gone. through the roof. This doesn't go out. live. I just want to say that I'm very. happy that you're looking after this. 9-month-old and it sounds like a win-win. for you. So much fun. >> For you a win-win-win for you the mom. and the baby. Yeah. You know cuz you're.

a wonderful person. I don't know. Why can't you ever just. accept when I'm nice to you? Call his. bluff. Call his bluff. >> I I've worked for you for so long. You've never just been purely sincere. You've never. >> have been sincere before. Haven't you. heard Eduardo say it? Yeah. Cuz you're. always nice to Eduardo. >> I've seen him be sincere to you. Yes. Thank you Eduardo. Thank you. What I've. told you I've never seen it. We always. we always cut it out. >> [laughter]. >> He calls me later and he insists that I. cut it out.

Yeah. I'm just saying sometimes when you. say something nice I hold my breath and. I wait for what's next. >> wait. always a joke after. No will you. say that nice thing again and see if you. can just let him sit in it. Okay, go. ahead. [clears throat] I think that. you'd be a great nanny. And I think that's a lucky 9-month-old. and a lucky mom that tricked you. into working for free. I know your face. Oh you know my face? >> know your face. You're not doing No, that's not.

>> [laughter]. >> That's the worst. No I'm being sincere. That's the worst. >> Where's our Where's my camera right. here? I know when you're being sincere. Your face is not. You mean a great DEAL. TO ME. I REALLY RESPECT YOU. You've been a great friend and I trust. you. I trust you more than I trust. anyone. Oh. my god. [laughter] Awful. Who do you. look like? I look like someone who just. drank sour milk. Yeah. I look like an. emoji that just drank sour milk. Uh God. bless you Sona. Yeah I'm having fun. Yeah and I think it's a great idea for. you to leave this very lucrative gig and.

go uh for free.