Owen Wilson (Full Episode) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

My name's Owen Wilson and I feel good. about being Conan O'Brien's friend. >> Okay, this is clearly like a hostage. situation. >> Hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien. needs a friend. Uh slightly different. situation today. We have Sona Obsessian. as we always do. Good to see you, Sona. >> Good. Hey, good to see you, too. >> You look very nice today.

>> Oh, I Yeah, I doled up. >> Yeah, you do. You look really nice. Um, and uh Matt Gorly is out. He's got I. think a cold. He's got two little kids. in his house and I think he has a he's. just going to be in that situation where. he has a cold I think every 5 days. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, Glenn just started. school and those schools are cess pools. >> Incubators. >> Incubators. Kids always have snot coming. down their noses. >> Yeah, I suppose that's true. And so we. have uh David Hopping sitting in. And.

David, I know I had a little hitch in my. voice there in my sentence like, "I. wasn't happy to see you, but I am.". >> Oh, I didn't even notice the hitch. >> Oh, well then maybe I shouldn't have. brought it up. >> But I've overcome my reservations about. you taking over for Mac. No, you step in. from time to time. You're a fine. assistant. Uh and I'm sure there are. people who who love you. Now, >> let's. get him on the phone. you um you have. something that you wish to talk about. >> Yes. Uh a fan of yours reached out and I.

just wanted to share this message and I. always like to hear from the fans. Occasionally a king likes to put on a. disguise and walks among his peoples. >> Uh and so this is my chance to find out. cuz I'm up in my cl in the cloud sitting. on my golden throne. >> You're unreachable. >> Unreachable. Untouchable. Uh a god. >> Yeah. walk in here and we all like bow. and we rever you and no one's like. laughing at you and stuff. >> Why would they laugh at me. >> with with you?

>> With you. That's what I meant. >> Okay, let's hear it. >> Okay. Says, "Hi, David. I'm reaching out. in need of your help. My name is Seth. and I'm a huge fan of all things Conan. My wife and I are expecting our second. baby this November. We are currently in. the process of deciding on names. We do. not know the gender, but if the baby is. a boy, I would love to name him Conan.". My wife is not on board with this name. She did say though that if I were to get. Conan to agree with us naming our future. child after him, she would be on board. Any assistance on this matter would be. greatly appreciated. Hopefully hear from.

you soon, Seth. >> Wow. Conan's cool. >> Is it? I don't know. I have to say um. this is a delicate matter because it's a. huge decision naming uh a child. When I. was born, um first brother was Neil, then Luke, and then when I was born, I. was unnamed I think for a few days. This. is according to my mom who told me this. later on. And my dad went to the. library. This is way back in 1963. And.

started looking up interesting names. And he had this whole theory about how. names should be, you know, it should be striking but not. complicated. And it should. It elied. with the last name. So Conan no Brian. Oh yeah. But he did all this research. and found the name Conan. He didn't know. anything about Conan the Barbarian. He. didn't know anything about because they. were at that time like graphic novels or. something. He didn't know anything about. that and there were no movies yet. So he. just found this name Conan which had.

some like from the Middle Ages or. something like that. So he gave me that. name and for a while it was kind of. cool. And then that movie came out. >> and everyone was like Conan. where's your sword? And then the beatings would commence. just to. >> that was going to happen regardless. >> The beatings. Yes. >> The beatings were just going to happen. >> Even if your name was like Brad. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're the beatings. But why? Why you? Why not? Why didn't he. stress out about Neil or Luke's name?

>> I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he saw. that I was the chosen one. Um there was. a golden light. I was the only one that. had uh when I was born, I had bright. orange hair like an orangutang. And uh. my mom said, "You look like a fat Buddha. with like a Lucille ball wig." And I was. like, "I love you too, mom." But um. anyway, so I had the name Conan. This is. a big decision. And I have to say, I. have fans occasionally show me that.

they've had a Conan caricature like put. on their ankle or something, and I. always think, I don't know how I feel. about that. Did you ever think about. naming Becket Conan Jr.? >> Yes. >> You did? Really? >> Yeah. He was Conan Jr. for four years. and then he took us to court. >> When he was four? >> Yeah. He took us to court when he was. four. The judge immediately. immediately sided with Conan Jr. No. No. Not for a not for a second. No. My.

god, that'd be awful. >> Were there celebrities that you wanted. to name your kids after? >> No. But you're you're also you have a. very special like thing of you can just. be one name cuz your name is so unique. >> Yes. I'm up there with other onename. celebrities. >> Yes. >> You all you have to do is say Rihanna. >> Okay. >> Like Rihanna. Well, you can you can say. Rihanna went to a party with Conan. >> Madonna. >> and Madonna. >> My queen Sher. >> Yeah. >> But you don't have to say my queen. share. Just share. So let's say this. again. Share. Rihanna. Madonna and Conan.

went to a party. No one thinks that's a. weird sentence. No one says, "Wait a. minute, hold on a second because I'm a. one-name celebrity.". >> Yeah, I that's you're making jokes, but. that's true. And that's really cool. >> You really think if you heard that. Conan, Rihanna, Sher, and Madonna went. to a party, you wouldn't spit out. whatever you were drinking? >> I think it would be more like what party. that Madonna, Rihanna, and Sher are at. Did they invite Conan? But I would know. it's you.

>> No, no, no. That wasn't my question. My. question is they're all on one name. people. I'm a one named person, but I. shouldn't be in there is what you're. >> Yeah. Yeah. I The bouncer should have. stopped. >> I would want to know which one of the. three invited you. >> I know. >> Oh, clear. None of those people are. inviting me. No. No. That's one of those. things where they're out having a party. and then I'm there inspecting the HVAC. and I wander by their table and then. someone gets a picture and suddenly my. name is in with them. But they don't. include the part about repairing the.

HVAC. Uh I think no. I I I I'm going to have. to. >> I'm going to have to side with uh with. the wife on this one. I think Yeah. Right. >> I side with him. I think it's a really I. think it's a cool name. It's different. There's a Conan Gray. He's a young chap. >> My feeling is it's a unique name and if. you let somebody else start to use it, it becomes less unique. So, for your own. brand safety, >> what do you think about singer Conan. Gray? Don't we root against him now?

>> Yeah. No, we don't. Yeah. >> Okay, good. Yeah. Um, well, and what do. you think, David? >> I think Yeah. No. >> Yeah. Also, can I just say, David, you. have a lot of it. The name Conan. triggers you insane requests at 4:00. a.m. >> Um, you know, constantly insisting you. pretend to be paparazzi so that I look. like I'm really making the scene. >> Yeah. Trying to clear Even though you're. just not you're holding an invisible. camera and you say click click. >> Um I'm going to say yeah I think it's a.

it's a it's a no, you know. And there I. think Miles is a really good name. I. like the name Miles. >> I like Miles. >> I like M. But I also do like Conan. I. think it's a really cool name and I. think. >> Yeah, but not for others. I think we. just let it we let it lie. And also I'll. be And by the way, they said they don't. know the gender yet. We haven't. determined my gender yet. So Conan works. either ways. I'm having a gender reveal. party next year here on the podcast.

All right, let's do this. My guest today. has starred in such movies as Zoolander. and Wedding Crashers. His Apple TV Plus. series Stick returns for its second. season in November. And starting October. 2nd, you can see him in Rolling Loud the. movie. The very busy but endlessly. enjoyable Owen Wilson is here. Owen, welcome.

Doesn't happen all the time, but I'll. mirror the person that I'm talking to. And the minute I saw you, I walked in. and I saw you, I slowed down my speech. and I started to notice that I'm kind of. I wasn't doing it intentionally. I'm. kind of talking like Owen, you know, and. I'm sort of like. >> and I'm going the other way. I'm I'm. revving myself up. Yeah. >> Do you hate yourself? Do you hate. yourself now? >> How much do you hate yourself right now? >> Are you needy? >> Are you a needy guy who hates himself?

>> Well, I am super thrilled you're here. because I think we have a lot to talk. about. This is the Owen Wilson takedown. interview. >> Good. >> Cuz you've been riding high way too. long. >> Yes. >> You get away with murder. I really. believe that. And this is a takedown. No, I just I one of the things I was. thinking about is I was trying to find. start with a point of commonality like. what do you're from Dallas, I'm from. Boston. We could not come from more. different places. >> My parents are from my dad's from. Boston. My dad's from Belmont.

>> You're kidding. That's where my parents. lived before my mom got pregnant with. me. And true story, the landlords, she. had two kids already, Luke and Neil. She. the landlord saw my mom was pregnant. with the third and said, "You got to you. can't stay here." This was in 19, you. know, this is like 1963 when you could. say, "Hey, you're pregnant. Get the. out of here.". >> Was this against the Irish? Like, >> yeah. He was like, "Oh my god, this. she's probably pregnant with seven. kids.". >> So, they had to move and they moved into.

uh to Brooklyn and then I was born like. months later. And I know that's why you. came here today to hear that story. >> So, Dukakus, >> what's that? >> It was Dukakus from Brooklyn. >> Brooklyn. Yes. uh Michael Dukakus who. ran in, let me get this straight. Was it. 1988? I think he ran for president. >> 888. Yeah. >> And uh he was the governor of. Massachusetts. But yeah, he was uh and. the day, true story, he runs for. president. He loses to George HW Bush. and the next night my brother sees him. in line at the Brooklyn Star Market and.

he's buying soda pop. >> for his secret security detail that's. leaving that day. He was in line like. wearing a R. This is the greatest empire. the world has ever seen. The most. powerful country in the world and he, you know, missed by some points. >> becoming the leader of that free world. and he star eight item because those. guys are leaving. That's kind of a. poignant scene. >> Yeah. >> And I don't think the Secret Service. should do that, but they broadcast all.

protection is leaving Mike Ducatus right. now. >> Just this soda pop. That's what we get. But that's a true story. >> There was something with him. Um, wasn't. there sort of a photograph that they say. sort of hurt his campaign? And tank. where he had the helmet. He was touring. a military base. Yeah. And he got into a. tank with his head sticking out and. someone put a big helmet on him. >> He didn't look powerful. >> No. No. It looked like he was in a.

go-kart. >> Yeah. Yeah. And he just looked kind of. Yeah. like um I didn't know that your. your dad's from from from Belmont. But. you know that wearing the hat thing. about um you know JFK when he came to. Texas. >> you know they tried to get him to put on. a cowboy hat and he had enough sense to. be like well I'll come back like he. didn't get knowing that would go around. that would all have oh remember that. great picture of JFK in a cowboy hat to.

have a sense of himself that like that's. not how I want to be. No, he didn't put. on the hat. He wouldn't He didn't like. to wear hats. I mean, he had cool hair. He had the coolest hair of any. president. >> Yeah, I think that was like uh when Eie. White wrote his sort of that was his. little tribute that he did not wear a. hat. >> I got to look that up. Eie White. >> I wrote Eie White a fan letter. >> You did? >> Yeah. When I was uh a kid just about how. much I admired his writing and and he. wrote me back and it's the one framed. thing I've had.

>> really. >> in my any apartment I've ever lived in. I've I I got the letters I got the. letter back I think in 1980. We've. mentioned it here before, but it bears. repeating. Clearly, my question was and. since then the EB White people have. found my letter. He wrote clearly I said. to him, I'd like to get involved in I. want to be a writer or be creative or be. out there, but I'm afraid of criticism. And he said, well, if you're afraid of. criticism, you're going to have a rough. time of it because everyone gets. criticized. And then I chose comedy.

I chose the thing where everybody can. say anytime you suck. >> But that's funny. The Eie White that was. my um my quote that um when I was. applying to college uh was from Stuart. Little was live and learn. And the only. and that was my dad because I'd been. kicked out of school. And once we found. out that the college that they would see.

that cuz we weren't sure, are they going. to see that I was kicked out or will it. just show, oh yes, they're going to see. And so that's when we pivoted. And my. dad had his whole ad agency working on. my essays. >> How to turn your getting kicked out of. school into a. >> move the quote to live and learn. And I still remember the first sentence. of it. You know, my dad was a good. writer. He goes, "While my record may. not reveal this, I feel it's important. for me to address this,".

which we knew it was going to reveal. when we were getting out in front. >> Oh my goodness. For cheating. >> Wait a minute. You were expelled for. cheating. >> Yeah. Cheating in geometry. >> In geometry. Well, you know, >> and then he cheated on his personal. essay for cheating. You help on your cheating. I was in. ghost 2. I was there. >> I was there. I had read Steuart Little. You know, I knew I got this.

>> Owen was there. He was there. >> This is a take down. >> He was there with the 15 other. copywriters and the CEO of the ad. company. >> He didn't say anything. I got this. I got this. >> They They saw through it because I I I. did not get into Wesley and or Dartmouth. or Williams or Washington and Lee. >> Wow. But you did go to military school.

>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. And uh this blows my mind because. I just don't picture you. >> Why? >> Because you get a real military. demeanor real squared away. >> You know what? I take it back. I just. got a better look at you. And man, that's a guy. You can bounce a quarter. off his bed every morning. Those are. hospital corners. Private first class. Yes.

>> I didn't shoot through the ranks. Shoot. up through the ranks there. >> But you know what's funny? All so many. times a great military doesn't always. happen, but great military leaders or. people who are very brave in combat were. at the bottom of their class at West. Point. So you might be a great great. military figure that just be I'm just. saying it's possible. >> but I think there are like because. there's sort of attention given to the. guy who's first in the class but the guy. who's last at like West Point there's. some sort of kind of.

>> it's not a great story but General. Kuster was last. one of those guys there's another guy. besides Kuster that was last. >> Yeah. >> I think they were called the goat uh. back. >> I can't remember where Grant was. I. think uh we'll get Son you can pipe in. anytime but I think Grant. >> I remember how well Grant did at West. Point. >> Uh but uh you know I encourage all of. our listeners to write in cuz I know. everyone's shouting out answers right. now. Um.

>> you know what's crazy? >> Who's 21st out of 39? >> Who? >> Grant. >> Okay. And where was where was where was. Patton? >> And this and I mean Patton Oswald. Possible was first. He and Eisenhower. have the highest ranking. You there's. big surprises. >> He was 46 out of 103. >> Yeah. So, they're not all there was a. guy. Yeah. >> What I'm trying to and I want this to be. the point and we'll get to your projects. and your big successes. We'll talk about. all that and we'll get the word.

>> Well, we still were on commonality, right? Because we we we got we were on. Belmont and then that somehow then we. got on to Evie White. We're on Evie. White or No. Yeah. Then I have the thing. about the JFK JFK. He did not wear a. hat. >> He did not Yeah. >> He did not wear a hat, which is what. tribute after JFK's death. >> Hey, he did not wear a hat. >> No, it can be said of him as a few men. in a like position that he did not fear. the weather, but instead challenged the.

weather itself to get get it to blow. more gently and kindly on the world and. its people. Something like that. He did. not wear a hat, but instead challenged. the weather. That's what it was. It was. something like that. >> I was going to move forward with. something else because you in military. school still strikes me as very funny. and a rich subject. But I will return to. it and say it has never surprised me. that your first love and your first. instinct, a lot of people wouldn't know. this, was writing because you're a very.

accomplished writer. clearly read a lot. >> and your plan was not to be an actor and. it really wasn't to be one of the most. notable comedic actors of a generation. That was not the plan. The plan was. probably writing, right? >> Yeah. I mean, well, the plan was. probably to go into advertising. >> cuz I had a connection with my dad. >> Um but um. >> yeah, it was. >> there's still time by the way. It was I.

still think about like guys as I I do. like commercials and um I I I feel like. yeah when you see a good commercial it. sticks with you. >> and they're rarer and rarer I have to. say like I like the ones you know you're. becoming your parents like I mean now. the the I mean they've mind them for a. lot but some of those were really. >> uh good where they're trying to say the. names of. >> um I think quinoa and somebody says wa. we Yeah. Yeah. No, there that's a really.

good idea that and forget who does it. Was it progressive? Is it progressive? We're going to prevent you from becoming. your parents. >> And I just love how chatty they are with. sales people. >> I feel like I am. >> Well, no. I watch those and I think. >> that's me. I'm the guy going, "Hey, >> I'm the one chatting with the valet. saying, I bet you see some real beauty. in cars, huh?" And they're they're like, "Why? Why won't this lady leave me. alone?" Did you know that one in four.

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million. That's incredible. Well, with. AI, it can get so smart now. >> Yeah. >> Do you know what I mean? >> You guys should start scamming. >> No, that's not the point. >> That's not the point of this. >> That's not the point. One accidental. click can expose your information, putting you at risk of identity theft. Luckily, this is the point. Not that you. should start scamming, but that everyone. should get Lifellock. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Lifelock has. live US-based restoration specialists. who will be with you every step of the. way to fix your identity theft. From. first alert to full restoration. This is.

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me to uh write with him. But it's funny. when I came here today, we edited Bottle. Rocket, I think Next Door. >> Really? >> Uh yeah. So, >> and that's the first time I met you. >> You're not going to remember this cuz um. you've you've had many. >> Gracie Films. No, you there's this new I. was doing it was early early days of my. late night show and you were coming on. to promote I didn't know who you were.

and you were coming on to promote this. new independent film that was getting. and I went and saw it and I really liked. it. They got me a screening and you came. on the late night show to promote Bottle. Rocket. Yeah. >> And I was like I like this guy. This. guy's really funny. I liked the movie. It was very different and it was my I. think my first exposure to that Wes. Anderson. >> Yeah. >> kind of vibe. >> Yeah. >> You know, where it's not ruthlessly. linear like go to thing to thing to.

thing. It takes its time and it turns. and undulates in ways you wouldn't. expect. And I loved it. It was great. >> Thank you. Yeah. It was a big day for. you too, meeting me, I guess. >> Yeah. >> Oh, and you still here? >> Jeez, he just nodded off. Did you see. that? >> He did. >> He completely went to sleep. >> He did. >> Yeah, >> he did. I think it was true. I think it. was such a It was so much emotion. >> Oh. >> Processing all the emotion of meeting me. that day in 96 and you just shut down. No. No. Um Well, I mean, it wasn't, you.

know, we we. >> would have been great. You say you loved. Berak, so I was like I was a bit stuck. with I liked it, you know. Yeah. Uh but. uh. >> you didn't like it enough. >> No, it's 30 years ago. I mean, >> it was 70 years ago. I don't know where. you've been. It's it's 2008 right now. Uh you know, it's funny is that you're.

going to military. school is indirectly how you met Wes. because it was a friend of yours. Wasn't. it a friend of yours that you knew in. military school who introduced you to. Wes? or is is that incorrect? >> Uh yeah, that was um my roommate at. military school was from Houston and so. then when I went to after I didn't get. into those schools I applied to I ended. up at University of Texas and he was. friends with Wes from Houston and uh and.

then that's how Yeah. That's so cool to. me that you'd think if you're a creative. if you're a creative person if you had, you know, succeeded quote and gone to. one of those named schools, you don't. meet Wes Anderson. >> And this is this thing I'm saying time. and time again. It certainly happened. with me. I don't get the thing that I. think is absolutely crucial for my. future. I don't get it. I get knocked to. the side and I'm I'm I think I'm. screwed. And that's when I bump into the.

opportunity that later on looks like. it's much better. >> Oh yeah. The role that kind of luck and. chance kind of play in your life and. just sort of, you know, it's a long. baseball game. You don't know how. everything kind of fits together. >> Which is all I tell young people. because, you know, I tell, you know, my. daughter or I tell my son, I say like, look, you have no idea how young you. are. Things are still unfolding. You. just, you know, you take every day as it. comes. But. >> yeah, a lot of young people don't know.

that. They think this is it. They're. like, "No, it's not it.". >> Yeah. Very, as you say, a long baseball. game. >> Yeah. And and Right. And if you don't. know the way things, you sort of have to. kind of resist the urge to kind of get. in and label, oh, this is a bad thing. that's happening. This is a good thing. Cuz you don't know how you know. And if. if you don't know, then to try to view. the whole with uh you know, with wonder. is a better way to go. >> Well, I'm just I'm I marvel at your.

creative uh partnership with Wes. Anderson. You guys are so sympatico in. this cool way. I I have to tell you, Rushmore might be if I had if I had I'm. going to say 10 movies. Rushmore. Every. time I see it, it's just such an. unusual, fantastic, amazing film. And. what an accomplishment. And that's not. even mentioning Royal Tenon Bombs. Uh, and then, you know, you've you've also. been in a bunch of Wes's movies.

>> Yeah. I love Bill Murray and, uh, and. Rushmore and that and the relationship. between him and Jason Schwarzman. And um. the speech that uh that Bill Murray, you. know, when he talks about taking my dad. had a real thing against inherited. wealth and against like, you know, rich. kids. And so that speech that Bill. Murray delivers in Rushmore, uh get the. rich kids in your crosshairs and bring.

them down. My dad wrote that whole. thing. I don't know if you're going to. jump on me for this. And Wes, >> does he get a credit, Owen? No, but when. but when we but when we when we screened. it like I think it was at the New York. Film Festival and um and you know at the. end of the movie my dad leans over to my. mom. He goes, "Did you see that my scene. got the biggest laugh in the movie?" uh. the biggest laugh in the movie came from. actually a line that Luke had where. Jason Schwarzmann says to Luke's.

character like oh I like that nurses unr. that was Luke's. >> but also Jason Schwarzman's delivery of. that line he's like James Bond saying. Bond James Bond. >> he delivers it like have I got the. perfect ice dagger for you. That's the lamest joke. >> Yeah. >> Uh, you're being rude.

Your dad, many people don't know, cinematographer for Wedding Crashers and. also the the stunt expert. I'm just. making your dad key part. >> That's good. I like that backstory. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People don't know it. was totally Zoolander. All your dad's. idea. >> Yeah. Your dad got screwed if you think back. on it. Think of a career he could have. had. Yeah. If we were bringing up my dad. because he was a very, you know, smart.

funny guy and I always have to do that. joke that my dad did talking also about. the not getting into colleges because. this always gets a laugh. Um, my dad. said he was the charter member of the. 3790. club, which stood for three sons, seven. high schools, nine colleges, zero. degrees. >> And by the way, and this brings us back.

to JFK who said the most important trip. of his presidency was going to Ireland. And what he liked about the Irish wasn't. so much a sort of, you know, cliche gift. of gab. It was sort of using humor as a. way to sort of deal with life. And. that's definitely my dad. Cuz that. wasn't a proud thing for my dad. But it. was a way that he found to kind of, okay, well, let's get, you know, let's. get a laugh out of this, find a way to. deal with it. Yeah. >> And and Yeah. And I found kind of in my.

own life when something's kind of been. happening when I'm able to sort of turn. it into a story um you know or something. then it becomes a lot easier for me to. sort of deal with and in the times that. you know I've struggled is when I I. can't really turn this into a story. >> Is your mom Irish as well? Yeah. But my mom seems to kind of. distance herself from the Irish because, you know, I think it's like she doesn't. like that kind of the Boston Irish. I.

think cuz my dad will say that I was. named after the first Irishman in our. family to settle in, >> you know, some place in like Watertown, Massachusetts or something. And my mom. goes, "He was not named after the first. Irishman." He was named. My mom was. always trying to make sure everyone. understood that yes, we're Irish, but. we're the good Irish. >> That's my be like, you know, this isn't. a good road to go down. We are lace. curtain Irish. Did you know that? >> That's my mom is a little bit like would. prefer to be English, I think. You know,

>> well, my mom would say we're lace. curtain Irish. And then she once said. like, you know, there's the one toilet. Irish, like they have one toilet in the. house they all share, but that's not us. And so I started to say, "People need to. know, Mom, we are lace toilet Irish.". And she would, she was like Margaret. Dumont or Mark's brother. She'd be like, "Now don't you say that, which just made. me want to be Groucho all the more. I don't like that." She'd say, "I don't. like that." My dad, like, you know, he. would kind of tell us stories about, you. know, him and his friends and kind of,

you know, getting into trouble and. stuff. and he went to Dartmouth and I. think that he said that you know Animal. House was based on his fraternity and so. he you know had these kind of great. stories and my mom would always be don't. tell the boys these stories. >> you know cuz my mom would try to pretend. that nothing had ever happened you know. so that's two different styles of kind. of parenting and I think my mom's was. like you know don't say this stuff. because you could have a kid end up at.

military school if they take. So. >> what if he becomes a big comedy star? >> What's the right way, you know, to do. it? Um, yeah. What is the right way? I. know that Willie Nelson when Ford uh my. son was born. I was kind of talking to. him and he said that uh so what what. advice would you give me Willie? And he. said be yourself. Yeah, there is that. sort of style. don't try. And and I do.

think kids know if their parents are. kind of, you know, with my mom, you. know, the way she'd try to present. things, you kind I don't know if I quite. buy that. Um, >> it's fascinating like no one You just. mentioned Willie Nelson. It made me. realize few people exemplify be yourself. better than uh than Willie because for. years he didn't quite know who he was. And you see these pictures of Willie. Nelson in the 50s and even into the 60s. He's wearing at one point he's wearing. like a neou jacket. >> Yeah. He looks be an accountant or.

something. >> And he's got beads and you see early. photos and he does look like well I'm. here to do the books. He didn't know he. was a brilliant songwriter but it wasn't. clicking and he you know he'd have some. success. He wrote he wrote crazy but. yeah it hasn't quite still come. together. and he kept trying these. different guises. And then I guess he. moves to Austin at one point and says, >> "This is who I am. >> Screw it. I don't care about trying to. be anything anymore. I'm going to grow. my hair along and I'm going to sing what. I want to sing." And then he becomes the.

most beloved. >> Yeah. >> country personality of all time. >> Well, it's almost jarring seeing those. early pictures because that you're like, "That's not Willie.". >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. There he is. Look at him. But. also, there's a photo there. >> That's not Willie, right? No, it doesn't. look like Willie. We're looking now. I. mean, look at the turtleneck. He's or. he's got like a. >> Yeah, he's wearing it. Oh, I look I like. the one on the far left where he looks. like he works at your dad's ad agency. >> I'm here to help with your son's. application. >> Yeah. And then he becomes this other.

guy. >> I asked him about that song Crazy and I. said originally it was called stupid. He. was joking. >> Cassie Klein. Yeah. >> Stupid. >> There's a great dream. stupid for thinking. >> Um it's a there's a great story about. him. He writes that song and he tells it. to someone. He goes like, "Oh, we should. get that to Paty Klein who was a huge. star at the time and he was like, "We. got to get it to her now." And they. drive over to her house and he pitches. it to her late at night at her house.

And she goes like, "That's a hit." I. just wanted to take some time and talk. about that story. >> Um I'm going to get back to you right. now. Your publicist is jumping out a. window. What are they doing? How is this moving product? >> One of the things that you did that I. always really loved is your I'm just. again out of nowhere, but your role in. Night at the Museum playing off of. >> Steve Kugan. >> Steve Kugan and also Rob I mean getting. to be on set with Robin Williams, you.

know, such a Did you get to know him at. all? Robin. >> Robin actually wasn't really um on set. cuz he, you know, all the stuff I just. did all my stuff with Steve Kugan were. obviously miniature. But uh I they. paired me for my. >> um you know, all the press stuff I did. with Robin. That was the easiest press. junket I've ever done cuz you didn't. have to say anything. It literally could. be they'd ask me a question and Robin. would be right there and I'd say, "Well, Robin, the thing about sunglasses and.

boom, he would go sunglasses. Oh, Chief.". >> Yeah. And he's off and running. >> Yeah. Off and running. And um somebody. tried to bring up sort of something that. I think that's why they wanted to pair. me with Robin, just cuz there's some. stuff that they didn't want me to have. to talk about. and and a reporter asked. something and Robin just immediately was. like, "Don't you go there.". >> You get slapped upside your head if you.

go there. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, that was great. Oh, and by the way, the thing with Robin, I remember at the. And you've done one of those press. junkets where you're stuck in the room. >> Yep. Yep. Not a lot. A big part of my. thing, but every now and then I got to. do it. Yeah. >> Yeah. And they'll have like 80 people. that they kind of cycle through. the way. they used to do it. And so you're. sitting there and you kind of give these. canned answers. You kind of start to. have, okay, they're going to ask that. and I kind of give this joke or you know. this story and you always feel a little. bit like a hack cuz the guys filming and.

stuff are there with you all day. So. they're hearing you give these same. answers and stuff. >> and the same joke. >> Yeah. Same joke. >> Yeah. And Robin, of course, never. repeated himself the whole day. And at. the end of the day, those guys started. clapping. >> It was the only time I've ever seen, you. know, those guys. And they're like the. guys like from that, you know, that. Albert uh Brooks movie, you know, like I. think you saved the movie, like those. union guys. They're not easily impressed.

by anything. And to have those guys. entertained and clapping. I mean that. was. >> there is a there's no more discouraging. room because you you basically go into a. cube a black cube and you sit down they. put a camera on you and then they say. you're going to talk to 35 outlets. across the country today you know about. your TV show stick and you know it's. coming season 2 is coming up you know. Apple TV and you're like okay here we go. and then hey Houston you know hey Salt.

Lake City hey and you do it and the guys. in that room they've this is all they do. their whole life I don't think they ever. let them outside. >> So, they're just about as And if you can. get one of them to laugh, >> you know that you've cracked the Adam. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Well, Robin was just such a He was super. sweet to me. Always like just a mench. >> Yeah. >> Just a lovely guy. >> Yeah. Great guy. He was into cycling, I. think. >> No, no, I cuz I am and he was into it. and then he one day found out that I was. into it.

>> So, you do that for exercise. Is that. like your. >> I do it for like mental health. Uh I. like to getting a workout. Like. >> you get a workout. I don't go I used to. go crazier. Now I don't go as crazy on. the workout part of it. >> You don't ever go on the PCH, do you? >> No, I do not. >> I don't get those. I did it once. I was. with them. >> When you're driving on the PCH, you're. like, what are they thinking? >> Well, you know what? I was in a group. once that was like I'm just with them. and then they hit the PCH and I thought. it's all exhaust first of all.

>> Yeah. >> And um. >> no shoulder to ride. >> There's no shoulder on the ride. Yeah. I. just think unfortunately I've been to. Amsterdam. I've been to cities that are. made for people on bicycles. LA, no. And. every now and then they'll paint like a. little strip and say it's the bike lane. And basically they're just identifying. an area where you're killed. >> Yeah. >> Just for convenience. Can everyone be. killed on this little strip? >> But I like to go uh mountain bike, go up. in the hills, and there I think I'm not.

going to die. No one's going to hit me. while they're texting. >> Yeah. I might be attacked by uh you know. a coyote or a cougar, but I I will. probably survive the attack and have a. good story. >> Yeah. >> You know, so I mean so I do that. Yes. >> I But I actually Yeah. I love it. You. can drive like right behind my house and. within 30 seconds you feel like you're. in rural China. It's just like, you. know, just mountains and it looks like. the opening of MASH, you know, just uh.

where the helicopters are coming over. >> And what do you do for exercise? Like. that's Do you. >> I think biking is a decent thing. I. also, as you can tell, I lift. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Just going to wait a little bit. >> Yeah. >> I lift. Um nothing heavy. Mostly things that are in my way. You. look I mean you're going to think I'm. like kidding, but there is a bit of a. cowboy look to your face. >> Well, you know what's funny? >> And I'm seeing like and it struck me. even when you kind of came in like Okay.

>> So, I have a cowboy hat. I have like a. legit cowboy hat. When I put it on, I. swear to God. Yeah. Go ahead. >> Well, no, it's you know, it's funny. because I'm this Irish guy from Boston, but I put a cowboy hat on. And if you. look at early pictures of John Wayne, you're going to think I'm crazy, but if. you look at pictures of John Wayne when. he was like in his 30s, he's got the. same kind of face structure and eyes. that I do. And when I put a cowboy hat. on, it's just kind of it's I've had. people say like, "Oh, you look like. >> I'm telling you.". >> I mean, when I did when I was much. younger, look. Yeah. >> Yeah.

>> For this guy who no one associates with. manliness, it's kind of hilarious. I I I. got a cowboy hat from a friend and and. during COVID uh you know, you're kind of. stuck in the house and I'd see this hat. that I'd gotten years before, never. really worn and then kind of started. putting it on one day and but you have. to kind of get through that feeling of. like, hey, I'm wearing a cowboy hat, you. know, and which you feel a bit. self-conscious. I like to sort of blend. in and I'd kind of put it on and stuff.

since I bet it looks great one and and. well it made me feel great and I'm sure. you know that I felt like I kind of look. good in this like this is like a good. look and I remember like I'm going to. like I'm not going to worry about it I'm. going to start like wearing it and I. remember I got like a FaceTime call from. a friend I had the cowboy or I might. have taken it off like where why would I. take it off like I've got nothing to be. embarrass I'm from Texas I can do. FaceTime he says hi and he's got Sandler. with him who I don't know that well, but.

like immediately I'm like, do I take it. off or do I say why I'm wearing? And of course, like I can't say. anything. I just got to. >> At that point, you can't take it off. If. you take it off, you're admitting. defeat. >> Yeah. >> I do this thing where if I put on a hat, you've seen me do this a lot, Sona. If I. put on a hat of any kind, I sort of. become, it's like when I said I mirror. you a little bit at the top and be like, "Hey, Owen, how's it?" You know, I'm.

kind of mirroring your energy. If I put. a cowboy hat on, I swear to God, I do. this and I just did it the other day. when I was with my wife in in Aspen. She. wrote this play and was getting a. production there. And I'm walk around. and I had this cowboy hat on. So, everyone wears one in Aspen and I I like. putting on a funny hat. and walking. around and when women would walk by I do. the thing where I touch the brim and and. I was doing that and then I realized I. was like a dog would go by and I'd do it. to the dog. >> Oh no. >> But I loved it. >> I love and I just want to do that and if.

I have a cloth cap I want to act like. I'm applying for a loan. I got no money. and I'm I'll pull at the edges of it and. go you can see your way. I don't know. It's fun. >> Yeah. Mine is now kind of broken in and. and I have completely you know Yeah. feel comfortable um wearing it. But I. remember asking Jim Brooks like, "Jim, if you had to wear a cowboy hat or a. beret for a year, >> which would you wear?" And he is like,

"That's hard cuz a Jewish guy wearing a. cowboy hat says deep schmuck.". >> Yeah. Uh. he goes, "But a beret.". He he said, "I think I don't know. The. beret is really making a statement. It's. not a good one.". >> I love how much thought he gave in. I. know. >> It's a great question, though. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, you have this reputation for.

uh you love games and you love. organizing. challenges for people and they're. creative. Is that true? I've always. heard that you like even as a kid you. were as a kid I was kind of good at sort. of yeah coming up with the game and. changing the rules to maybe suit my uh. strong points and just growing up in a. you know one of three boys and just very. competitive. >> uh and so still yeah I can get in I can. spend all day like you know let's see.

who can hit that telephone pole uh and. get really into it. >> and then you'll start adjusting the. rules, >> adjusting it, you know, >> and I mean there are there are games. where like you you can only stand on one. foot, but it people do it for hours, right? Some of these games take a long. time. >> Yeah. >> Is that your preferred kind of game. where everyone's involved? >> That one sounds like standing on one. foot. I'm not familiar with that. >> I I made it up. I made it up.

>> There was a game tip horse that was kind. of a combination of horse and uh. one-on-one basketball. And I think that. was a really great game that could uh. catch on because when I've when I've. shown it to other people, they're like, "This is a great game.". >> Can you just tell me the basics of it? How does it work? >> It's playing horse except if you miss. your shot, I can tip it in. You know, my. feet have to be off the ground and you. can defend your tip, you know, >> so suddenly it becomes an instant. one-on-one. It's pretty quick.

>> Instant instant because you can't be on. the ground. So, it's like you could miss. your shot and I go in the air and then. you try to block it and then you and. then I you could get that tip and go in. But, it's just kind of a more athletic. version of horse. I remember we would. play stick ball. >> in my neighborhood, which sounds like I. was grew up in the 20s, but we did. >> It was if you if you uh my brother Luke. would, you know, spray paint this like. perfect pitch zone and you get a thin. bat and use a tennis ball and then you'd. have all these rules like if it hits.

that tree that's a single. >> If it hits, you know, that uh person in. a wheelchair, it's a double. You know, you're just making these random rules, but you really get into it. And then, of. course, I wasted everyone's time by. coming up with who my character was. >> Yeah. >> And making long speeches about my guy. did time in prison, but he's out now and. this is his chance to And people hated. me. >> as they do now. >> But I I understand where that comes. from. I really do.

>> Yeah. We would have BB gun wars and. Roman candle wars and, you know, just. passing the time. No one really talks about passing the. time anymore, but you know what I mean? It's such a nice like, oh, I'm just. going to pass the time. This is a nice. way to pass the time. We're also. obsessed with maximizing like, I got our. phone and I accomplished this and I did. that. >> I mean, that is something they say with. kids that you kind of, you know, you got. to let them be bored a bit and kind of. come up with stuff. And now there's this.

sort of panic. Oh my gosh, they're. bored. We we got to figure out something. for them to do. And it's like, no, let. them be bored. Let them figure something. out. >> Yeah. Um, >> boredom is a great thing. It's where all. the creativity comes, I think. >> Yeah. Yeah. We got a lot of stuff from. uh, you know, these Roman candle wars. and BB gun wars. >> Roman fireworks at each other. >> Yeah. Yeah. Roman candles. And. >> did you mention this in your. application? Um, >> no.

>> Skills. I can fire a rocket at you. Dartmouth thinks no. >> Not the kind of boy we're looking for. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I feel like that was in one of our. movies. There was sort of in Roman. candle. It was every man for himself and. this guy, a friend Max, who joined in. thought that we were on the same team. and I'm like, there are no teams. Yeah. In Roman Candle, cuz he got hit in the back of the head. where his hair kind of caught on fire.

And um yeah, I had to get a haircut to. kind of make it look, you know, not so. crazy. But um. >> so Keith when he realized that there are. no. >> Andrew has a BB in his hand from Yeah. that we showed in the Royal Tenon bombs. and that's from uh. >> you can push it around. It's. >> push around. Yeah. From where he got. shot. But um yeah, I don't know. Maybe. we better move off. >> No, I think it's good to encourage. people. You've got fireworks or BB's.

>> and I've already told them if you're on. a desert island by yourself. >> Yeah, >> we're going to put all these trigger. alerts on the front of this podcast. Uh. let's talk about Stick because you're. coming back with season two and I envy. you because Tim Olphant. >> uh is is a is a friend of mine. He's. also a thorn in my side. >> He enrages me because he's the best. looking guy in the world and he's also. incredibly funny which always felt to me.

like no my my humor is my consolation. prize. >> right. >> why do you and I always just assume that. like that okay and then this guy comes. along who is like leading man. good-looking and really really funny and. quick so I'm thrilled he's part of Stick. now. >> I mean he was great for his character. Clark Ross and he kind of um. >> excuse me he has a bigger role in uh. season two but I kind of felt like you. it's just some people you just kind of. hit it off with and Yeah, >> he was just a guy just kind of instantly.

got along with. And then in season two. kind of he and Mark Marin were together. a lot and uh hearing those guys kind of. bicker and uh. >> yeah, no one bickers like Mark. Mark. >> Mark has always got I love Mark but he's. I've known him forever but he's. get on that Tim talks too much. I'm like. Mark you talk a lot too sometimes. You know what amazes me about Tim. Olphant is that I've never seen him get.

rattled and I think about if he was in. Pompei today and Vuvius went off again. and people were screaming and running. cuz lava and ash and noxious clouds of. gas are floating down. Tim would be like. sauntering around maybe one hand on the. side of his torso. >> looking around like making kind of what. comments about that guy just got ashed. you know. >> but it's true and and I and I never saw.

him get sort of impatient or you know. you know people always think of me as. kind of laid-back but I do have a little. bit of a temper sometimes I don't get. yeah and I can get kind of um you know. irritable and stuff and never that guy. Uh Tim, you never see him and you can't. quite imagine it. I think he's always. just what you just, you know, were doing. that kind of um Yeah, that's his kind of. demeanor. >> Yeah. On Deadwood, he had this. incredible intensity,

>> right? Cuz he kind of early on played, you know, guys were kind of. >> like really troubled and menace. But the. real Tim is someone who whenever I see. him, I just start chuckling cuz I'm. like, "This guy is just he's got it. figured out on some cosmic level." He's. like, uh, you know, I don't think Andy's. from a family of three boys and and. usually there's sort of kind of that, you know, that shared kind of Lord of. the Flies kind of energy, but he doesn't. have that. He kind of escaped that.

>> Uh, he doesn't, you know, >> uh, he's not crazy kind of competitive. and stuff. Although there was a Galaga. um machine on uh on set that we all we. all three got into playing a lot. like Asteroids or Defender. >> like a classic old game. >> Old game. Yeah. And Mark Maron was the. best at it. >> And he's competitive and it was funny. And that's I guess that's kind of what I. like about uh games and stuff is that.

you know that most of us are kind of you. know when we get to be adult it's oh how. you doing? So I like games because you. kind of then break through that to kind. of see okay let's see what this guy's. really about a lot of you see with pon. it's like I'm going to take this bike. and I'm. where it's like all of a sudden that. goes out the window you see kind of okay. this is the real person that lived down. the street this isn't this BS version. that I'm getting and so with Mark you. kind of see okay yeah you like to act. like you're kind of above it you really.

want to win at this you know. >> that's hilarious because. famously Golf is a game that reveals who. you really are. People say golf will. reveal your true nature. >> And there's a bunch of games like that. But you're absolutely right. Again, though I in most sporting situations, >> kind of competition, you start to kind. of see Yeah. kind of how I see who that. guy is. >> Yeah. Yeah. It starts to kind of come. out in, you know, good ways and bad. ways. Um but yeah, >> I also envy you working with Judy Greer, who I think we all have crushes on.

Every guy has a crush on Judy Greer. She's great. >> She was here once and I, you know, hearts were flying out of my head. Just. love that. I love her. >> I know she's a big reader because she. kind of was always and knitting. Um, and. uh, but yeah, she sent me uh, um, a. couple books and she always has great. recommendations. But yeah, I mean, we. were just kind of lucky with, you know, with that cast. Um, you know, >> and also I'm just going to mention you. got a a movie.

>> Yes. Rolling Loud. Rolling Loud. And. that's no no problem. And that's um this. music festival that uh they put on. that's Do you guys know it? You guys. know? And it's And so the idea of this. movie is I've taken my kid and his mom. uh says absolutely not. You're not going. to Rolling Loud. And uh and then we go. and I lose him uh but at the concert. Uh. my kids are really into Rolling Loud and.

and Rolling Loud came to Los Angeles and. we went to go see and rap is very. different from uh you know I remember it. from how I remember it and so when I. when I went to go see the Rolling Loud. and I mean it's intense kind of yeah. this Playboy Cardi uh that we saw and. even Travis Scott when uh he's in the. movie but kind of seeing him in Miami. you know fire coming up and it's like. intense uh energy kind of.

>> the rap that you and I cuz I think we're. similar vintage. The. >> rap that you and I were No. Yeah. The. rap that you and I used to perform. That's not where I'm going with this. >> But when I first heard rap, it was all. that my name's blank and I'm here to say. I'm going to bring rap to the USA, you. And it's like early8s rap had this kind. of plotting you know and then uh you. know run DMC was like slightly. accelerated beyond that but you listen. to it now and it is now it seems to be.

metal meeting rap and sort of a similar. kind of. >> I love us talking about rap my favorite. this is the best part of the. conversation. >> I feel like I'm not even saying the word. right but it's like how else can you say. it but I feel like even Even when I'm. saying it, I say. >> when you and I say rap, it's not good. >> Saying rap. >> The thing about uh the movie Rolling. Loud, the when when I was checking it.

out, I was like, "Oh, I've had this. experience many times cuz my daughter, one of the ways we connect, she says. like, "Oh, I really like to go to the. outside land." So, I go with her. >> Go to where? >> Outside lands or I mean, we've been to. those music. >> We did Coachella. We'll go to these. And. it's really fun cuz that's where I will. put on a cowboy hat and walk around, >> you know, just to I think I'm blending. in and then people are like, "Why is Big. Bird wearing a cowboy hat?". >> Yeah, I don't blend in. >> Never. >> No, I know. >> My hat says I am Conan O'Brien.

>> Um, well, I'm going to wrap it up. I I'm. always super. >> This went quick. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm happy to talk to you longer. >> Have we ever chatted about the Killer. Angels? the book Killer Angels. Do you. know that book? >> No. >> Oh, man. Okay, I'm going to get you this. book and you're going to read it. It's. the book that changed my life. It's the. best uh historical fiction I've ever. read. It's. >> one book and it was written by an author. named Shara who passed away shortly. after we wrote it and it's about. Gettysburg and it's poetic and beautiful.

and I'm going to get it for you. Killer. Angels and. >> I read this book in like 198. will sound we better get back on rap. after I say this but I was talking about. the Civil War last night at dinner. >> Yeah that Civil War started as a Civil. War started as a rap battle that got out. of hand. It was Grant and Lee both. rapping and then it got out of hand. and millions died.

But you know that Joshua Chamberlain, the the guy in the Killer Angels. Okay. So, he kind of. >> Joshua Chamberlain is the hero of the. Killer Angels. >> He is. Okay. Yeah. He's a great. character from history. >> You I can't believe you haven't read. this book. >> Yeah. Okay. Great. >> You're going to read this book and then. I'm getting you into Dartmouth. >> By the way, I'm still sort of when I. meet somebody, you know, that went to an. Ivy League school, it I always am. impressed kind of. You shouldn't be. You. shouldn't be. But I but I I can't help.

it. And if I meet someone, I I can't. help cuz I've got my dad in me of like I. should befriend this person because you. never know now with my boys coming up. If I could, you know, have like a little. bit of a connection here. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You'd want to. lay low with my connection. >> We know Conan O'Brien. Oh, really? It's military school for you. Owen. Wilson. Uh just a crazy joy every time. to talk to. Thanks so much for having. me. >> Have you ever had a cat, Sona? Never.

>> I have had multiple cats. >> Yeah, >> I had a cat growing up. It was my cat. My wife and I now have three cats. >> That's a lot. >> Yeah, we have three cats and two dogs. And I have to say, the dogs are so. appreciative. >> Cats hard to win over. >> Yeah, >> cats are cats. They're tricky. >> Yes. >> Sometimes I feel like I'm working for. them, you know? >> Well, Temptations Classic Cat Treats is. the solution. Okay. Temptation's classic. cat treats are the crunchy outside, soft. inside treat any cat obsesses over. Each. treat is under two calories per treat.

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Treats. Cats can't resist. >> We're taking voicemails again. Nice. >> It's been a while. >> It's been a long time. >> The system went down. We couldn't figure. it out. >> Even the system went down. >> It's back. >> Don't worry about it. >> Yeah, that means it didn't go down. >> Just no one called us. >> No one called. >> Are you sure no one called? Even this. one, I just started cold calling people. saying, "Do you have a question for. Conan?". >> Yeah. Uh, hit it when you're ready, Eduardo. >> Hey, Conan. This is Mark from Ty calling.

from Tyson Corner, Virginia, also known. as McLean, Virginia. Um, so I actually. have a question, maybe a survey I want. to pose to you and the room. First, I. want the opinion of everyone in the. room. Sona, Matt, Bla, Eduardo, Adam. Saxs, any anyone in the room really, David Hopping there. Um, nice. This is a. theory I have, you know, for listening. to the podcast and uh essentially it. comes down to this. My theory is this. that uh if you love a certain character, you know, animated or not, that. essentially you love a certain character.

a lot that you essentially are likely to. become that character and uh I think. it's become clear from listening to the. podcast that uh over times he's more and. more likely that you are becoming Mr. Burns. the anacronistic. uh you know references to many things. that uh I had to Google afterwards or in. the moment. I don't know. He seems very. likely that Conan is turning into Mr. Burns. Uh if anyone in the room wants to. weigh in on this, uh please please do. I. think this theory has some uh has some.

weight to it. Uh I don't know. I think. it's a funny thought. Anyway, please. weigh in and uh and there you go. All. right. See you. >> Well, Mark, I think you hit the nail on. the head. Um, when I was a Simpsons. writer, all I wanted to do was write for. Mr. Burns. Uh, and I wasn't the only. writer who found him fascinating, but. um, yes, uh, I I do think that very much. so. I'm becoming Mr. Burns. Not just in. that I am evil and obsessed with things.

that happened in my boyhood in the late. 17th century, but um yeah, his his total lack of. sentimentality and uh his um his desire. to destroy everyone around him. Those. are all things that I I think I inhabit. And so yeah, >> Sona, you're Smithers. >> I think David is Smithers. >> David. David is Smithers. You're my. You're my Homer. Oh, come on. I don't. want to be Homer. >> Yeah. No, it's a good And I'm always.

forget. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good thing. >> Good thing to be Homer. >> And also, whenever you do something, I'm. like, who is this? Sona obsessian. E, I. like the cut of her gym. And And then. someone else reminds me, but wait a. minute. You've gone to Armenia with her. She went with you to Morocco. Uh, you. once smashed your car. Uh, you know, whatever. They list the 750,000 times. that you and I have had adventures. together and I go, "No, it doesn't ring. a bell.". >> Yeah. >> Um, >> is it your Flanders?

>> Oh my god. Totally totally David. >> You are You are very Flanders. >> You are very Flanders. >> Well, >> yes. Flanders, Homer. >> Yeah, I'm I'm Burns. And of course, David Hopping is definitely. >> Who would Eduardo be? >> Yeah. I'm trying to think. >> Mo. What's that? >> Who Who would Eduardo be? Mo, >> who's cool? Cool in thebody cool. >> I don't think there's anyone that lines. up with Eduardo. He's Cuz here's the. problem. He's just.

>> he's super cool and chill and centered. and uh he doesn't he he's not a terrible. caricature of a human being, which the. rest of us are. >> Well, the Oh, Adam could be Lyall. Langley. >> from. Yes. Yes. >> He's just a business. And then I mean. obviously Bl is Barney. >> Yes. >> I think you thought that too. >> Bl is Barney. That's fantastic. >> Yeah, but he Yeah, I think Bl cuz Bl's. just like a fun guy. >> Oh, and Jeff Ross is Marge.

I wouldn't do it if I were you. Oh, I. don't think it's a good idea. Oh, Conan. Oh, >> I'd be Lisa. I'd be Lisa. >> Oh, you would be. >> Oh, wait a minute. You would be. >> You'd be Bart even. No, he's not. Bart. is more maniacal. No, no, he's more. >> Don't be Homer. Can I be someone else? >> You are so Homer. Obsessed with donuts. Look, if I donut, I do love donuts. >> Homer's one up from Ned Flanders. >> No. Flanders has the together.

>> Not in a good way. >> What do you mean? >> No. No. >> You would. You would rather be Homer. than Flanders. Absolutely. I would way. Homer's the star. You should be so happy. with being Homer. >> He's so dumb sometimes. Yes, of course. Also, Homer has no control over his. appetites in every field. I mean, it's. you are Homer, you know, >> in every Yeah. Okay. But, you know, you're So, you're Mr. Burns. >> I'm Mr. Burns and very proud to be Mr. Burns. I have a hyperbaric chamber. I I. I have a massive estate with closing.

gates. When uh when children are. starting to leave the house, I say, "Release the hounds.". >> I I the couple times I've had a. mustache, I have immediately shaved it. cuz I look like Ned Flanders. Yeah. It's It's a real shame because. theoretically I'd love to have a. mustache but it's just not happened. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I bet I bet you don't. >> This was a great This was a great. >> question because everyone it was very. apparent who everyone was very quickly. and uh and it's perfect.

>> Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think that. that's just goes to show how cool the. Simpsons is, right? I don't know. >> Sure. Yeah. Let's give them a plug. >> Okay. I'm sorry. The Simpsons on Fox. Tune in. Uh, fantastic. Great question mark. Thank you so much.