Olivia Munn (Full Episode) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

Hi, my name is Olivia Munn. >> [music]. >> Is that how you pronounce it? Yeah, Munn. >> [laughter]. >> And I feel. so excited. and amazed about being Conan O'Brien's. friend. >> That's so sweet. >> Yeah. >> [music]. >> Hey everybody, welcome to Conan O'Brien. Needs a Friend. This is a very good day. >> Mhm. Because I'm joined, of course, by. Sona Movsesian. Yes. But today marks the.

return, the heroic return, of our good. friend and associate, Matt Gourley. >> Yeah. >> Oh, come on, guys. I like the heroic. part just fine. >> We we've missed you, seriously. >> Yeah. We've missed you, and just to. update everybody, you've been on a. paternity leave for No, no, I only bring. it up because I think it's a world. record. It says here, no. >> [laughter]. >> No, uh.

your daughter was born, I believe, eight. years ago. >> [laughter]. >> She's a freshman in college. >> Oh, how's she doing? Oh, she's great. [laughter] She's great. Uh no, you've been out for a little. while. You've been out for a couple of. months. >> I did. I took a little extended one, and. it was the greatest thing. It was. fantastic. I mean, I missed you guys, I. did, but man Well, how's it going? Bring. us up to date. >> It's going really well. I was able to. spend a lot of time with my older. daughter, which, you know, was kind of. magical. And then my youngest daughter.

has just fit right in, and. you know, not to get too sentimental, but you sometimes when you have those. moments in your life that you know to be. the best moments, but you only know it. after they're done. This was one I could. tell when I was in that it was just. amazing, you know, so That's really. nice. I'm happy that you had that. And also resentful that you took so much. time. Let me tell you something. >> of the happiness was I wasn't here. Yeah, exactly. When my daughter was born, I took 20. minutes. And when my son was born, I took four.

Now, let me also just add to that, I'm a. terrible father and an awful human. being. So, yes, I I am I saying this is. the way to go? >> You could have asked for some time. >> I could have asked for some time. Uh. that was on me. I think I I took a It. was a commercial break. We were doing. the late night show. >> part is he didn't even have to ask for. time. He could have just told people. he's taking time. >> Yeah, exactly. I know. I want to say. something though about your paternity. leave real quick. It feels like you kept. releasing other podcast episodes. It.

feels like you took a break only I did. from us. And you were still doing all. your other podcasts. >> those all before the baby was born. >> Not true. True story. You can hear two. kids crying in the background. >> [laughter]. >> Unless one of them's your wife having a. nervous breakdown. I'm And you often. referred to the day's news as you were. held up a newspaper during each. recording. >> Yeah, as you were hosting Mall Walking, you were, you know, I mean, first of. all, >> [laughter]. >> you We might do Baby Walking. Oh. Um no, listen, I understand those.

are more Those are priority shows. >> them. >> [laughter]. >> All I did was watch World War movies and. Dirty Harry movies with my baby while I. held her. >> that's the best thing for a little baby. girl to be hearing. >> into it. Make my day, punk. [laughter]. And um lots of people getting blowed up. It's a great thing for a little forming. brain. It was heaven for me. As that. fontanelle is starting to seal. >> pulsing while we were watching it. >> [laughter]. >> It's crazy. Um all right, I have some.

questions. Uh how is your your youngest. daughter's name is You talking about. Nell the smell? Oh, I thought it was I. thought you were going to go So, Nell. Nell, yeah. Um how is Nell different? She is night and day different than my. first daughter. She is My first daughter. is this wonderful tempest, like just so. funny, so crazy. >> Mhm. Nell just came out smile every time. you see her just a big smile. She just. sits there. She's a wonderful little. lump on the log. So we got one of each.

which kind of. magnifies their differences in such a. wonderful way. I don't know. It's I just. feel great. I feel lucky. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. It's. >> First of all you have you came in you. seem. seem very happy. You've got that kind of. doesn't he he not have a glow? >> You do have a glow. >> Well I birthed the children. Oh did you. now? >> it's the postpartum glow. >> Okay. Yeah. That sounds fun. >> Yeah. That's why he had such a long. paternity leave. Yes. He did. Sorry Matt you can have it inside if you. want to but he did say when we were. sitting around earlier he did say that. uh.

How did I forget how he phrased it? This. time around he gained a little more. weight than the first time and we were. like for your pregnancies or [laughter]. I was trying to explain it and now. you're going to make me uh. No I'm not going to make fun of you. Well I'm glad I got to hear about how. your body changed. Can I just say No I'm. glad Adam brought [laughter] this in. because you're a big fat now. He I mean you're list you're all. listening but when you waddled in today. >> I put on 10 lbs. Isn't that crazy? Waddled in. 10 hello. Oh.

no. I don't know. I think. >> read somewhere that Oh you're you're. going to go you're still going down this. road. >> Oh no. I just want to hear it. I hate to do. this kind of cuz what if this is just. All right. But that there is. this evolutionary sort of process to it. men in postpartum that they lose. testosterone temporarily and it's a kind. of thing to keep them. historically tied to the mother and. child. >> From straying. Yeah. From straying and. and it's a kind of thing that that has.

uh evolved over time and the the. survival of those fittest people because. the. father was there with the child and the. mother. So you're so so I'm So I'm. curious how does this relate to you. gaining weight? >> be some sympathy weight gained because. of the loss of testosterone apparently. >> walked. >> in he's got huge breasts now. >> [laughter]. >> I do. You have huge lactating breasts. and you're a big fat. >> [laughter]. >> And I don't mean either of those in a. derogatory way. >> No, no. >> No, no. Big fat WITH TITTIES. UM.

[laughter]. BUT WHEN YOU waddled. >> [laughter]. >> when you waddled in. waddled in here wearing his his D cup, I. was. >> [laughter]. >> I did come in. I'm ready to podcast. Uh. but but see you gained some weight but. you you still look good. Thanks. Um I don't feel good. Do you think do you feel like your. testosterone levels had dropped? Uh. >> [sighs]. >> you mean am I out there just hounding. it?

Um. >> Hounding it? Let me see. Pound Is it. pounding it though? >> No, I didn't pound. >> Okay. All right. >> [laughter]. >> Pounding it. Hounding his creditors for. more time. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah. Oh, I'm hounding it all right. >> [laughter]. >> You're doing what? Uh I don't I think. so. I mean I've been certainly been like. a sentimental mess in a in a sort of. like good way. You know, it's just every. single thing knocks me down in a like. kind of sweet way, you know. Well.

I don't think I've ever had you wouldn't. know what I'm talking. about. Do you feel like your. testosterone dipped? Well, first of all. >> No, after your kids were born. I'm not. asking No, but you know, my my. uh. my mother-in-law, Pam, God rest her. soul, she did say I remembered once sort. of talking about how I think I've grown. wiser over the years. I'm not as intense. as I used to be. I was very. focused and very driven in my 20s and.

30s and 40s and I said I think I'm. maturing and she just you know, she was. a. expert in these matters and she just. said um no, no, your testosterone level. has dropped. >> [laughter]. >> Like I was trying to credit it all to. wisdom and she was like, "No, no, you. just have less of that, you know, juice running through your. body.". >> See, I went through a male pregnancy, he. went through menopause. >> Yeah. No, I did. I did. Yeah. Oh, that's. nice. I did. Um but. uh. yeah, I I don't think that I got the. sentimentality. I'm I'm waiting for that.

part, you know? I don't get all mushy. You don't really ever? I do when I. uh When it comes to your kids. especially. >> No, just when I see old clips of late. night. >> Oh. >> [laughter]. >> Like, aw, look at him with Al Roker. 1994. No, um no, I do. I I do. I'm I don't. Yeah, I'm just saying stuff, but I think. uh but yeah, I am very First of all, very glad you're back. >> Oh, I'm glad to be back. Because you are. a very important voice here on this.

show, as you know, and I say that uh. with with no ridicule or jokes attached. to it or seriousness. Or seriousness or. real honesty. Um no, but uh we're really. happy you're I'm so glad to be back. I. did miss you guys. I edited the show. while I was gone, so it was really. interesting to hear you guys. Kind of. feel like I was there in a one-way sort. of way, where you're just coming at me. Were you ever coming in with your. uh patented quips, but then realizing. that you were just listening to us and. you couldn't participate?

>> Of course, and I don't have any actual. cash with me, but I'm making a $100 bill. that I would like to send to Eduardo for. his little Put you in your place. Yay! That's right. >> Well, that was an iconic moment in the. podcast. >> It was. >> When Eduardo called me a little I. forgot you're a little THOUGH. >> [screaming]. [laughter]. >> AND YOU KNOW WHAT? SOME PEOPLE SAY OUR. COUNTRY is terribly divided. You unified. the country. Yeah. [laughter] Everyone, I don't care if you're a red state, blue. state,

uh you know, Trumper, never Trumper, everyone said, "Yes, that guy is a. little bitch.". >> Yeah. >> Everybody It was a beautiful moment in. my life. >> a really sweet, definitely sweet. >> Everybody in the country listening to. little and big fat with them. titties. Yeah, big fat with them. titties. >> yeah. >> We bring people together. Yeah. >> Uh with our special brand of the truth. >> Can we uh give a very special thank you. to David Hopping for coming covered for. morals? That's. >> was fantastic cuz I edited and I I at a. time was just like, "They don't They.

don't need me." He's great. You know. what I mean? No, we need you. >> No, he was great. I won't have uh I. mean, David I can take in small doses. And you know I love David. >> Of Yeah. But he works Hilary Duff into. every conversation. And um and I listen, I I I like Hilary. Duff. I'd gladly have her here on the. pod. >> Yes. Uh. yeah, whenever we clear up whatever. legal thing we have between us. Um but yeah, he is so obsessed with. Hilary Duff. >> Can I just uh shout out uh in all. honesty my wife who who did all the work.

obviously for uh for all of this. She's. been amazing and so Amanda She's girls, yeah. Yeah, Amanda uh your wife, very. beautiful, very talented. You're a lucky. man. >> I am. Man, you're lucky. Yeah. Okay, well hold on. Jesus Christ, you guys. lucked out. Well, I'm I'm just saying. It's kind of creepy the way you're. saying it. I'm just saying when he said, "I You got to meet my When he said, "You. got to meet my wife." I thought it was. going to be like a broom with a face. painted on it. >> [laughter]. >> Her name's Amanda. Say hi, Amanda. Hello.

I mean, come on. Gorley's wife? That's. fair. >> Then this total smoke show comes walking. in and she's. she's gorgeous. The same could be said. for you, too. I mean, both of you are. really punching up. >> Yes. Uh I will I mean, no offense, but. oh my god, are you punching up? Both of. you. >> think that Liza met you know, that Liza visited me in the hospital. >> [laughter]. >> What do you mean? They just think it. some total accident happened and that's. how I got this woman, [laughter]. you know? Like she was there and then. accidentally got married. amnesia.

>> you came in and went, "I'm your. husband.". >> Yeah, exactly. [laughter] Thank god I. found you. >> Yeah. And you think I'm handsome. Aw, that's why. >> yes. We are both very lucky men. Yes, you are. And you know who else is a. lucky fellow? Your husband. >> Takakjian. >> Yeah. >> I can't believe I'm saying Takakjian. now. Tak Tak Tak. You don't even know. his last name, do you? >> Yeah, I know it's Beroyan. Yeah, no. >> Takakjian. >> It's not Takakjian. But yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Anyway, uh this is getting. really nice and everything. So, I just. want to get us back to ground Back to.

ground Okay? Please do. You suck. You. were way too long. >> Yeah, and you're a fat You're a. fat guy now. Fat guy, you got to lose. the weight. Your husband's name Uh your. husband's name is Takakjian. You're way. too loud and you don't help me as much. as you should. >> [laughter]. >> Um I think we're all. >> come from? Why? And I think we're all. And you're still a little You're. still a little A LITTLE. >> [screaming]. NO! ONE, TWO, THREE, little. No, I can't. No, I can't. I I. honestly I can't do it. Why does it feel. I can't do it. Why can't do it? I.

honestly could not do it. >> I don't know. >> You've called me everything. You. actually called me a little. before. >> I'm sure I have. I've called you a dick, an but I can't I don't know why. little hurts. No. >> Oh. I think I I just I feel like it's. it's too far. You think Eduardo went too. far? No, I don't think he went too far. I think I would go too far and I think. it's because I was your assistant for so. long. And I wouldn't want to Isn't that. weird? I know. I don't know. Wait a. minute, you have some tiny bit of.

professional fear of me. I kind of do. I do. I mean, when he said it, everybody. else was laughing and I like was like, "Oh my god, Eduardo.". >> Eduardo was scared. He went home. He was really terrified that like it was. over. I feel good about it now. And then. you remembered. >> [laughter]. >> And then you remembered who I am. Also, you probably went home thinking, "It could be over for me, but if it is, totally worth it.". >> [laughter]. >> What a way to go. Anyone in the country would have hired.

you. >> [laughter]. >> Uh well, super happy to have you back. >> Yep. Um and we've reunited, as you know, probably the there's isn't there a movie. where they have there's different stones. and they got to put them in the glove. and then they. >> the Shungara Stones of Indiana Jones and. the Temple of Doom? >> Sure. >> Are you talking about Thanos and the. Avengers? >> knew that No, we're talking about. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. >> I don't know. There's a lot of stones. that need to come together. >> Also, next week I'm back on paternity. leave. >> [laughter].

>> So much I'm looking forward to this. summer. >> Me, too. >> what I'm talking about? First of all, July 4th is going to be the 250th. anniversary of the United States of. America. That's a big deal. And just as. important, some pretty big soccer games. headed our way. Sports. >> I don't want to get too specific, but. let's just say some pretty big soccer. games are coming our way. >> a global scale. >> On a global scale, that's all I'll. [laughter] say. So much to celebrate this summer, so you. got to keep it classic with Miller Lite. >> Mhm. Miller Lite has been a true. American pilsner and the original light.

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that crunchy, I will. Okay, let's do. this. You know my guest today from the. TV show The Newsroom and the film X-Men: Apocalypse. Now you can see her in the. Apple TV Plus series Your Friends and. Neighbors. Very delighted to have her. here today. Olivia Munn, welcome. >> [music]. >> John and I have talked about this. before, like. growing up, like. like it's like to to even think that. you'd become Conan O'Brien's friend, let.

alone like, you know, like sitting here. talking with you is like such a it's. it's a really hard thing to go back and. be like, "Hey, like one day you'd be. friends with Conan O'Brien." It's kind. of it's very surreal. Well, that's a. very nice thing to say. Um but spend a. little time with him. >> [laughter]. >> You know. Yeah, you'll see very quickly. I think in 10 minutes you'll want out. You'll want out very badly. But you know, I'm I'm so happy you're. here and we were chatting just before we. came in here to do the pod. I call it.

pod cuz there's not time to say podcast. >> Okay, you saved a lot of time. >> Yeah. With doing that. >> and we should stop now. Uh but we were chatting and you were. just talking about how which I can. relate to and I think you can relate to. Matt. But you're tired. You're tired. because you're you've been taking care. of your kids and you just said, "I am so. tired." And I said, "Trust me, this. podcast today is going to be your time. out." But you're going through the same. thing. Yeah, newborn. I got a What? >> Yeah, I'm I mean she's great. She's one.

What do I do? Do I talk? That's [laughter] right. This is your. first day I'm still waking. >> first day back since a maternity leave. The children are now in their 30s. >> [laughter]. >> He's been gone for a really long time. >> Yeah, but um and I think too long, but. um we'll we'll figure that out later. Uh HR tells me I'm not allowed to bring. it up, but. >> [laughter]. >> But you you're tired. You're you were. exhausted. >> I am pretty I'm really tired. I was like. as I was as I was coming in, John was. like, "Have fun on Conan." I was like, "I'm so tired." Um but I'm so excited to.

be here cuz I was saying like it like. we like our they're 4 and 19 months and. we. um. like of course we're we have people that. help us and we're so so grateful and. lucky, but we I was saying we do like. this. this crazy thing is that like when. everyone's [clears throat] there and. like we're happy to help and be there to. help. My mom is there to help, too, and. my stepdad. Like we want to be in the. mess, you know, just be in it with them. and the the problem is is that just.

leaves us with nothing on the other. side. So like we're giving to our work. and then we come home and it's like. like we can do it all ourselves we and. it's just um and I just. >> I don't have that instinct. Oh. >> When I come home um I'm very happy to. say cuz I have we have a lot of help. I. have I have eight butlers. >> [laughter]. >> That's just me. I have sur- and I have. people that carry me. Oh. >> Yeah, from the toilet to my other. toilet. And I. >> bathroom a lot. >> Yeah, oh, I'm constantly. >> Like it's from one to the other? Yes. >> There's no stopping. They don't stop.

anywhere else. And there's a toilet on. the little chariot they carry me. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I'm constantly Well, by the way, I. if that's what's happening, I think you. need it. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> No, no, trust me. I don't think this is. like vanity at all. I think there's. something going on. >> a really good [laughter] point and thank. you for taking my side on this cuz, you. know, my wife is always like, "Is this. really necessary?" I'm like, "You have. no idea. >> [laughter]. >> how necessary this is.". But I think that's your problem is. saying we want to be part of the, you. know, >> [laughter]. >> you can meet the children later in life. Do you know what I mean? You can meet.

them later. >> her problem is that she wants to be. involved with her kids and like. >> all about? I don't get it. >> Oh, okay. Okay. People like Winston. Churchill, he was raised by uh people on. the estate, then he was like brought to. meet his parents at a certain age. I'm. I'm serious. [laughter]. They're like, "Come, it's time to go meet your father. Hello, father." You know, it was a weird. thing and he. >> call you by your first name, don't they? >> [laughter]. >> Hello, Conan. Yes. Mr. Conan. Mr. Conan. Exactly. But. >> It's casual, but still like formal. Super casual. Yeah, I just think um like.

every little moment just like I think. that John and I connect so much to our. own childhoods. Like we have such. distinct memories of what our childhoods. were like and and we see our children. in ourselves so much. So I think it's. like every time we are. Like the funny thing is like Malcolm. will do something and then he and I will. both have a John and I will both have a. different reaction based on like what. our childhood is and so that sometimes. they're very we're very different. He's. Irish Catholic, you know, white collar.

family and then. I grew up in a military family with like. my my Your mom a Viet- Vietnamese. refugee, >> Yes, right. Yeah. Who came here in 1975. >> war ended. Yeah, it was out. [clears throat] on the the last the last. um the last boats out and um So, you. have a completely different frame of. reference than than John Mulaney, Irish. Catholic. >> yeah, yeah. So, like we like the other. day, gosh, I can't remember exactly what. it was, but um. uh John said something about um like.

like Malcolm is like, "Why can't we do. this thing?" And and um and John was. like, "Oh, well, because it's closed now. Everything's. closed." And then I was like, at the. same time I was going, "Well, because. we've decided that we're not going to do. that because" And then and we both. looked at each other going like, "Which one do we Which way do we go? [laughter] Like which What what are we. doing?". >> have your story straight. >> not. And we do that a lot. And then then. one of us will kind of start start to. talk slower, and that's the one that's. the cue to be like, we follow that. person, whoever. So, [laughter] be like,

"No, it was you know, we it's closed, so we're not going to go today, but. we're going to go tomorrow.". And then we're like, "Oh, okay." I don't. So, your kids now think you're just. liars. That's what we're trying to do. >> That's all parenting is. We're trying to. get She has twins as well. I think I. think the three of us have kids that are. around the same age. My boys My boys. turn five in July. Yours is in October. >> Yeah. And I think Malcolm. >> Yeah. Yeah, just turned four at the end. of November. >> Okay. I used to tell our kids that Obama.

canceled it. I'm serious. I used. [laughter] to do that. I used to tell. them, "You know, Obama canceled it. That's why we can't do it." And they and. very quickly they figured out. And one. times I said, "Oh, is that" They said, "What?" And I said, "Yeah, it was on. CNN." And my I think it was my daughter. said, "What is that? The Conan Nonsense. Network?". >> Oh my god. And I was like, "Okay, well, this doesn't work anymore.". They're [laughter] Republicans now. Is. that a Biden term? >> two when she said that, yeah. I just. said that to John just yesterday. I was.

talking about something that my mom had. said to me that was so like flippant and. innocuous. She like she wasn't even. thinking. I know at that time she didn't. think it was anything. But what she said. I knew was a lie. Because it was just like when I was a. five-year-old, you know, she was like, "Oh, whatever it was was just like a. little lie." Mhm. And I knew. and it I know in that moment it course. the the course changed from being like, "I believe everything my mother says.". to being like, "Oh, you're just you're. not going to be telling the truth about. things.". >> Right. Right. >> And then I look at myself as an adult.

and be like, "Nah, my mom knows. everything." She's so annoying. She. knows everything. She's always right. And yet I'll still be like, "No." Cuz. that's my my default is to be like, "No." because I remember when it all. changed for me. >> one time and I can never trust you. again. >> I think as a kid like you know, I said. to John, "We never know when we're. creating a core memory.". So like there's that things that my mom. said and did that she will never ever be. like, "I remember that." because there. was one time when it's like in the '80s, right? So my mom would had us my sister.

and I my step sister same age as me came. home from school puts us to nap. And then I hear the door close. And I. look outside. I go into the living room. she's in the van pulling out of the. driveway. We're nobody else is going to. be home. We're So you're alone. >> at four years old. But this is the '80s. when you could like, you know, leave. your kid at home you go run and come. back. And I ran out crying and. screaming. Well, I thought she was. leaving us. And she's annoyed. Now she's. got to go back like, "Okay, get back in. the house." And [laughter] I was just.

being like and then I was so confused. like now she's annoyed with me and did I. do something wrong but she was leaving. me and it was just and that became such. a core memory. >> But that's bold even for the '80s. That's pretty. >> Yeah. That's pretty good. Not. [clears throat] for the '70s but for the. '80s. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, we used to also in the. um pickup trucks like you know, sit in. the back of the flatbed but on the hump. where the the wheel is we could sit in. there like just you know, a free ride. through the highways. Like no one no one. got in then. >> It was a different time. >> Yeah. Uh. yeah, I'm amazed at the things that we.

did in the when I was growing up in the. '70s. I just. you know, sometimes I wouldn't see my. parents for months at a time. Yeah. >> left with just a map and a gold coin. >> I know. >> [laughter]. >> I just used to go on a full walkabout. for 3 days in your hometown and just. come back tan and dirty and yeah, yeah. Well, this is interesting cuz. cuz I can relate obviously to John and I. have similar, you know, kind of lineage. and we're both comedy obsessives. Is he.

always trying to turn something into a. comedic riff? Is that Is that something he does at at. home or not so much? Like is he Is he. turning stuff into material that happens. around the house and can you see him. doing that? No, I can't see him doing. it, but it must be happening cuz I'll be. watching a like I'll I haven't seen his. stand-up until recently. We're in. London, I watched it and I was like. you've been like clocking all of this? >> [laughter]. >> Core memories you're making core. memories. I'm like everything is a core. memory? Everything? His latest special.

is called core memories. No, it's Yeah, cuz uh. but I have noticed something with him. that. you might relate to as like a comedian. cuz I've seen I now I see it now with. him is that like Malcolm said something. the other day too, I think and and when. something's really funny, there's not a big reaction. It's just. like. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. And like his his brain. is already at It's almost like he's like. writing it down in a notebook in his. head. >> Yes, you don't immediately laugh. You. just go, "Oh, that's very funny." Yeah,

yeah, yeah. >> Yes, that can be used later. Uh-huh. [laughter]. Yeah, I enjoy. Yeah, yeah. But I think. sometimes there's not. Sometimes there's. really not. There's like, "Oh, yes, that's very good. That's very good." I. think it clicks it just literally it. flips a switch instead of like where the. rest of us are just like that's funny. I. think it immediately flips this other. switch that's like that is very funny. Let me log this down. Let me not forget. the nuances of whatever this whole. little moment was. So, that happens a. lot more than. than than I than I than I recognized.

like the you know, the first year we. year we were together. Yeah, it's not as. obvious as John saying, you know, you're. you know, you're Malcolm falls down and. he's like, wait a minute, I can use. this. >> [laughter]. >> no, no, no. Keep crying so I get down. with it's like. Um, but you know, uh. we were talking just before we got. started and I thought, I want to ask you. about this because your early life. there's. you know, there's a lot happening. You. and your mom comes here. Um, and when she has you, where are you.

living? Is it Oklahoma? Oklahoma. I was. born in Oklahoma City. >> Oklahoma, but then. um, it doesn't work out. Her marriage. doesn't work out. >> My father, um, cheats on my mother when. I was 6 months old. >> Oh, boy. >> And then she, yeah, she she my sister. was two and a half. I was, um, a 6 months and my mom was. uh had his dry cleaning and was going. through his suit jacket and found two. movie ticket stubs. and went up and asked him like, did you. go to the movies with somebody? And he. said, yes. And she goes, was it a girl.

or a guy? He goes, it was a a girl. He. goes, is it a date? He's like, yes. And. then so she leaves and then, um. And she goes to Japan? No, so she leaves. so my Okay, my mom and my uh my mom, my. grandmother and her nine children. escaped Vietnam um in the fall of Saigon. and in '75 and then they came out to. Oklahoma because they. um, there was a um a Christian. university president that was like, I'll. sponsor, you know, all 10 of you to come. to Oklahoma. And they went there and. then um my mom went to university and.

everybody still lived there in Oklahoma. And then when my when she left my. father, she went back home to my. grandmother's house with, you know, my. uncles and everybody there to take, you. know, take care of her and and us. And. um my mom would tell stories about my. dad [clears throat] coming to get us to. for visitation and my uncles would be so. mad and they'd pick up huge rocks and. just throw them at him and like throw. them at the his car and like it was just. they were just the Saigon came out in. them. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, what a ancient way of showing. displeasure.

Do you know what I mean? Like I I get. that you're passive aggressive. Yeah, I'm passive aggressive with you Matt, but I don't pick up large boulders and. throw them at you. >> that we know that's an option. >> an option. But she so then she goes. >> and then eventually she she remarries um. my first stepfather. My mom's been. married three times. My second. stepfather. it's important to note that he is. amazing. His name is Sam, but my first. stepfather was not a good guy at all. He. was really for 14 years of my life from. like two to 16 and so she married him.

and he was in the military and then that. uh brought us to. >> was a bit of a like a rageaholic yelling. Well. >> person. Would you call him that? >> He was very abusive abusive in many ways. um and. it's interesting like. abuse, right? Like like there was. definitely screaming and yelling, but. there wasn't like a rage like when you. see in movies that just somebody comes. in and what's going on in here? It was. just like that. it's when. you know, you're the your blood runs. cold. You just feel you know, you can. just feel it. It's like when your kids.

are like dogs, right? Where you can feel. things before anything is said. You. could like it's raining outside and I. would learn like later in life like. okay, rain is actually bad because he might be. late for work or something might be that. and then he's going to come home and be. really in a bad mood. So you just kind. of like. >> Yeah. clocking all these things. He he. wore um. always at home he he would wear like. flip-flops and so like the sound of like. flip-flops on the linoleum cuz you know. in a military housing you have like the. same kind of concrete floors that. linoleum on on top of it and just like. those kind of things that you just kind. of perk up and go like okay, someone's.

coming or danger is coming. Just before. we came in here you were talking about. how. you you seem like someone who. obviously went through a great deal and. then And some point had the. strength and tenacity to say. "I'm getting out of here." Cuz you. talked about getting in your car and. driving. This is, you know, when you're. much older, but you decided, "I'm going. to go to Los Angeles." You got in a car. and you just started driving and you. said, you know, your your car broke down. at one point and you were looking for a.

replacement part on the side of the. road. Yeah. So I There's this real fire. in you like, "I'm going to get out." I. always wanted to be an actor. And when um. when I was like uh. like maybe 17 or something, my best. friend gave me this book called An. Actor's Guide Your First Year in. Hollywood. And I was like. page one, let's go. Yeah, we're going to make it. And um. and so I I told my mom that I wanted to. be an actor and you know, my mom being. an immigrant was like, "Oh, that's not.

you know, my my mom and her siblings all. came to America with nothing and they. all have like, you know, master's. degrees and PhDs and become like top. engineers and one has worked for NASA. and they're doctors. They've And so my. mom is like, you know, we don't have a. dentist or a lawyer in the family yet.". >> [laughter]. >> And I was like Yeah. Yeah, I was like, "Okay, yeah." And also, you can. understand where they're coming from. >> Yeah. That if you if they're coming from. that reality and then you just one. generation removed is saying "I'm going.

to try improv." Mhm. >> [laughter]. >> Uh and I'm going to throw. uh and I'm going to play, you know, some. uh um some theater games. I can understand why they'd be freaked. out. Yeah, especially cuz she's like, "Wait, you want to do what?" Like she. did tell me a long time ago. She goes. "You want to be actor? You go, only one. man can do it, Tom Cruise. You not Tom. Cruise.". >> [laughter]. >> I was like, "What? Come on, there's a. lot of people. >> true. There is only one man that can do. it. >> You you not Tom Cruise. I was [laughter] like, "I'm not.". However, he and I do have the same.

birthday, so [laughter]. I would ask her a lot and she was like, "If you you to college and use your. degree for 1 year, like then I'll I'll. say okay, you can go. And now I know at. this point I'm an adult, but it's an. Asian family, so it really mattered that. my mom was, you know, there to support. me. And also I didn't have the money to. go do that and and I needed a lot of. support and and permission from my mom. And so I um. graduated um from University of Oklahoma. with journalism degree and then I worked. at the NBC affiliate for 1 year in.

Tulsa, Oklahoma. You were sideline? No, I was doing this. assignment desk. You ever been into a. newsroom before? So there's the like we. go into a newsroom, there's this. assignment desk and it's where you. answer the calls from people going like, I love what, you know, Jane was wearing. today on the what color was that suit? [laughter] And there's also people going. like, um there was a, you know, um I've. got a complaint about, you know, XYZ and. what's happening over here on this. street. There's also all of these uh. police scanners, paramedic scanners, fire department scanners, and it's just.

a. just constant noise of people telling. you like, there's a, you know, a school. bus turned over on 49th Street. There is. um a house fire on 8th. And it's constantly all the time and. your job is to hear it all. and then to tell people and be like, Conan, go to 89th Street. There's like, you know, >> fire at McCreary's barn. Get over there. Exactly. [laughter]. And they're right there in front of me. and I hear nothing. And I would hear. producers screaming out what he like, you know, they're like, a school bus. turned over on 29th. You're like, I'm.

like, really? And they're like, oh my. gosh, there's a house fire on on. Robertson. I'm like, there is? And I'm. like, I I'm the worst person at this job. ever. I It was Your [laughter] job is. not to go, YOU DON'T SAY. WOW, THAT MUST BE SOME FIRE. >> We should put it on the news. >> [laughter]. >> I'd be watching people get up and run. and I'm like, what? They're like, and. they'd be like, they'd be into the. parking lot screaming what's happening. and I I just couldn't hear it. And so I. took that job for a year and then. then they asked me, don't ask me why. They're like, do you.

want to stay on longer? And I was like, "Well, I told my mom I. would only do this for a year before I I. would go." And I was just determined to. just do a year. And then I started thinking like, "Oh. man, maybe I. maybe I will." I don't know. I talked to. my mom about it and she goes, "You know. what? Just why don't you just wait. another year. Just like one more year. and then you you then you should go out. to California and give it a try, but. just one more year." So I was like, "Okay." And then one day, speaking of. core memories, like not knowing when. you're creating them, my sister. was getting dressed and she was in the.

bathroom, putting on her makeup and she. said, "Oh, you know, Mom said the. funniest thing to me the other day. She. said, 'You know, Olivia keeps wanting to. go to California to be an actor and I. just told her like next year. And if she. says anything to you about it, just tell. her next year and we'll just keep saying. next year next year until one day she'll. forget about it.'". >> Mom. And my sister said it of just like, "Mom is so silly. Isn't that so silly?". And I I'm pretty sure my sister doesn't. even know this story cuz it probably. didn't even clock to her. But in that. moment I was like, "Oh my god, like. well, why is this working? Like why why.

why cuz it clearly worked on me." And I. thought, "Well, I'm letting it work. Why. am I letting it work on me?" Well, because. what if I don't make it? And if I don't. make it, then for the rest of my life I. could always say, "Well, I was going to be an actor, but. my mom wouldn't let me." Right. And. yeah. In a way. uh you have an out. I have an out. forever. So I I had a a this this old. like beat-up Land Rover Discovery that. like broke down like every 20 miles or. so and we did something that um.

like. it was not a good thing for the. environment to do, but we took out the. catalytic converter cuz in Oklahoma you. could. And the catalytic converter. allows uh more um just to have just more. like horsepower and it like and it's. [clears throat] really bad for the. environment cuz it doesn't it lets all. the exhaust kind of out, but in Oklahoma. you could do it. So um. >> Thanks, Oklahoma. >> [laughter]. >> So the the the mechanic was like, "You. you take this out, you're going to get. like you're going to be able to go a lot. faster and you're going to get more. >> gasoline out the back,

>> [laughter]. >> propelling you forward. And then I also had a really bad a crack. in my radiator and I knew about that, but I couldn't afford to. >> Like you're driving Chernobyl. >> [laughter]. >> Um and so. I mean. >> You're kind of low on uranium. >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> So I um so then I had to drive like um. gotten my in the car and I was like to. go from Oklahoma to Texas and then all. the way through, you know, New Mexico,

Arizona and then to California, but it. like it stopped like every 200 miles and. um cuz you have to stop open the. gaskets, put in the the radiator fluid, you know, to the freon to, you know, keep it going and then then at one point. it just was like steam was coming out. I. was in the middle of um New Mexico and. the steam was just like spewing out and. it's like the check engine light's. coming on, so I pull over and I'm like, "Oh my gosh." and like the the hose for. the radiator it like had blown. It was. like a like a crack in it. And so I'm.

like like and this is like before like, you know, there I mean I think I had a. cell phone, but it was like a Nexus like. Nextel and you know, it was one of those. weird ones that nobody else had. So um. I'm like I just I'm on the side of the. road on the highway like look, you know, like walking for a while going through. the brush and then I find a hose. I'm. looking for something that I could use. and I find a hose and cuz I've already. had to You found a a radiator hose? [laughter] No, no, not a radiator hose. >> Okay. No, it was like. >> Still a hose. You found what you were.

looking for. That's amazing. It was a it. was I don't know what kind of hose. It. wasn't a water hose. It was it was. something, but I did it because in. college my best friend Cara, she's very. she taught me a lot of of this stuff. And um and so this had happened once. before when we're in Oklahoma during. college and I was like, "What are we. doing?" She's like, "We're going to go. find a hose." I was [laughter] like. "What do you mean?" She's like, "We're. going to find something and like so we. like on the side of the road you just. keep like looking and looking and like. you'll find something." And so. >> [laughter]. >> you know, I look I mean it wasn't easy. It wasn't like I was like an hour or so.

just. >> treasure hunting? >> [laughter]. >> I'm just saying you may have a real. talent here. Well, you just search and search and you. find something. >> Uh-huh. And I I carried um the. screwdriver and I carried like the heat. resistant duct tape. I mean, I had the. whole thing cuz like this was a. situation that I had experienced for. like a over a year I've been going. through this. So you'd think actually. that I would have kept like extra hoses. That's the key. No, not if your not if. your experience is. just go outside and look around.

>> [laughter]. >> It's like shopping at Meineke. Um But we. found it and it got me through it got me. to the very to the it got me. like all the way to Altadena where I was. meeting cousins. And so how long before. you got work? Once you get to LA, was it a long time. before you found some work in front of a. camera? Well, it depends on what you how. you describe work. So in I. In Actors Guide Your First Year in. Hollywood they tell. >> [laughter]. >> They said you really yeah. They tell you. >> After the chapter on finding a hose.

>> [laughter]. >> This book is really good. >> [laughter]. >> You know how like they they up they do. like a a new a new edition? Maybe they. should do a new edition interviewing me. for it. Yeah, the new edition, yeah. So. um I it says like you to become an actor. you need to join the union. And how do. you join the union? You get your SAG. card. How do you get your SAG card? Well, you book something that gives you. a SAG card or you go and be an extra. And you can be an extra and you get like.

pink slips. I think it was like three. pink slips equals like one SAG card. >> That's what I got. You did? Did you get. it? >> Yeah, for being an extra, yeah. Wait, how many how many pink slips did you. get? >> Three. And did you get did you get a. speaking parts? >> No, I was just a I was How did you get I. was a high school student even though I. looked 38. Uh and it was. >> in the I saw what the credits it said. creepy high school student. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, prematurely aged dude. Did. everyone get one or did they just give. it to you? >> There were. the guy it was called a show called the. smart guy on like uh was it Nickelodeon.

or something? I can't remember and one. of the actors was someone we knew from. an improv group and so he got three of. us as featured extras to get our SAG. cards. >> Wait, what was the what was the featured. part? Creepy guy in a high school like we. weren't we weren't like speaking. It was. kind of it seems like a game or. something. >> that's the it wasn't. >> really background work. It totally Yeah, yeah, yeah. And but I I thought you just. go. and then you're like every background. person gets like a I didn't know there. was like a special thing like you have. to be like you have to have a featured.

whatever that means. But so in the book. it says like go to central casting. And. you bring your passport and another. identification and you go there and line. up. So I go to central casting out in. Burbank. And like there is a line that. goes you know down the block down the. block around the block and I'm there. like passport in hand the biggest smile. on my face. I'm like we're doing it. Yeah. We're we're we're going to do it. We're here. Look at us. I'm the new Tom. Cruise. >> [laughter]. >> That's like the book says. Yeah, you. guys have the book too? Yeah. Um and um.

and I was like literally the only person. smiling the entire time. I was like this. is it and I get to the front and the. first one I did was Gilmore Girls. And I couldn't believe it. I was like I. got cast on Gilmore Girls. And I get to Warner Brothers which is. already like right? And um and then it's. like 4:00 a.m. and you know they tell. you to bring your own clothes. >> Yeah, multiple choices. Yeah. I brought like a. check-in size of like winter clothes. >> [laughter]. >> And then they just like I'm like I gave. them my name and they're like yep keep. going and so I I you know get there and.

I I see all these people there and. no one else is smiling. It's 4:00 a.m. and I'm just like guys. we're doing it. Here we are. [laughter]. This is we we made it. And And this one guy brought me over and. he's like come here. He's like "Is this. your first time doing this?" And I go, "Yes, it it is.". He was like, "Okay." He's like, "What um. what color did you bring?" I was like, "What do you mean what color?" And he. was like, "What color did you bring?" I. said, "I I don't I just have like winter. coats and stuff." He goes, "Hold on." He. he he hands me his red his red scarf. And he's like, "You need this so that. they can see you in the background.".

He's like he he puts on a red hat. He. goes, "And you want to make like big. gestures." He's like, "You know, like. you can say hi to a friend that's way. over there." And like. >> So he had all these like tips and tricks. and taught me about like bringing. Tupperware so that I can like take food. home and like how we want to get into. meal penalties and it was like this. whole thing I learned yeah. >> of background acting on your first day. Some of the advice I'm not sure. I I. have a hard time watching Gilmore Girls. cuz there's a guy in the background. [laughter]. who's always flailing like he's on fire. and he's dressed like Where's Where's. Waldo. He's dressed like Where's Waldo.

>> [laughter]. >> Like I can't understand Rory. Um but that's I only did that I only did. uh one other um background uh job. The. very first thing I booked was this uh. was It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Oh, there you go. Sunny is. >> my jam. >> Yeah. Oh, wait a second. >> [laughter]. >> So, I I booked this It was the It was an. episode where they were like there's. people protesting um an abortion rally. Do you remember this episode, guys? Okay. [laughter]. And there's this one it's like it's it's. more than it was a It was one It was a. small role.

It was like one of the like a co-star. role um and um. but it had a but there was it had a big. impact. It was a It was like really. funny lines. It was great. And I I went. in and I I. I Wendy O'Brien did casting for it and I. was my first thing and I couldn't I was. so excited. I was so excited. I couldn't. believe it. I was this is so exciting. And. then Monday morning rolls around and I'm. waiting. It's supposed to be filmed on a but I've. never done anything like this before. So. I just I don't know. I know it's supposed to be filmed on. Monday and I'm waiting I'm waiting I'm.

waiting and then I I. try to get a hold of somebody at the. agency. Like no one's answering. Try to get. somebody at the management company. No. one's answering cuz it's super early in. the morning. I'm like, I feel like I'm. supposed to be there already. And then finally I get a call from. production. And the woman's like, "Oh my god, we. transposed the last two numbers of your. cell phone." My number at the time was. 0608, so they were calling 0806. And they're like, "I'm so sorry. We had. to go audition all of the extras for. this role." Uh And I was like, "What do.

you mean?" They're like, "We told your. managers." But my manager at the time. was too busy starring and filming his. own movie. Oh god. >> that weekend. Oh, come on, bro. >> give me any of the any of the yeah. >> Mhm. Oh my god. >> him just a number more chances if I were. >> [laughter]. >> It's not too much. >> I'll give him 15 more chances. >> Yeah. I was like I [laughter] was like I. you guys I was like, "I'll be right. there. I'll be right there." Like, "I'm. sorry. We've had to move on." Like, "But.

don't worry. We'll remember you for next. time." I thought, "Of course you're not. going to.". >> back at my start and there were things I. desperately wanted. um to happen that didn't happen and then. later on I realized that if those things. had happened. the real great shots wouldn't have come. along for me. It would have set me off. on a different road, so because you go. on this streak of. Attack of the Show. um you get Daily Show. Yeah, Daily Show. You got offered a part on 30 Rock.

>> Oh, that one, yeah. which you couldn't. end up doing. >> Mhm. Um and then you do The Newsroom. Um. that was like my first big like a. behemoth to take on, right? Like The. Daily Show with Jon Stewart was a it. Those both are like kind of. simultaneous. Like they're very. different in their own ways. Right. >> Right. Um but then. I knew that I was like just the outlier. in that whole cast of The Newsroom and. that. um. you know, and actually after my first.

day of filming, the very first scene. that you see me in in season I'm in. episode two, season one, he came to me afterwards. He's like, "You know, we were He's like, just so. you know, we were all watching being. like, what's this girl from The Daily. Show going to do?" And I was like and I. kind of felt that that pressure a little. bit, but then also at the same time felt. like. like I didn't know a lot about um like. like the etiquette of like. um of like filming on on sets and like. how like I would ask a lot of questions. I would go to Sorkin and be like, "Can.

you explain all these little things to. me?" Because I was like I mean, I didn't. write the character, you did. So I I. would And so there is like a little And. I would ask other actors to be like, "How would you say this line?" And. they'd be like, "What? Like you can't". And I was like cuz like. apparently um you're not supposed to. give other people um acting notes, which. I never would, but I think in that same. vein they're surprised that they're. like, "Well, you're going to want" And. I'm like, "Yeah, well, like how Why. would I just want to use my brain if I. can have everyone's, you know, help and. and involved in this?" And. um. And so. I I was looking at I knew I was going I.

had like such an amazing. high-caliber group of actors around me. and I was like, "Oh man, I don't know. I. just have to like kind of narrow in and. think about what I'm doing." And I I at. that time in entertainment, I feel like. a lot of times I'd seen. characters like that. play really just overly demanding or. apologetic and I just wanted to play it. straight. I just was like, "There's. like just like any There's nothing has. come close to that. I I stopped filming. that show in 2000.

sev- four- 14 14 17 14 Something like. that. A long time ago. And I nothing has. come close to that scene because of the. challenges that Sorkin um. put for me in there to like really. like uh just. make things really small, but still give. it as much impact as I I think also he'd. be a very hard guy. it'd be very hard to act in his stuff. because he puts so much dialogue in. there. >> It is. >> And I'm when I watch his stuff, I'm.

always very He's obviously a great. writer and he's really a savant at at. this. He does great work. But I'm always thinking, yeah, I I. I couldn't work for that guy. >> Memorize all that stuff. >> and and what you know me, I'd just be. making up gibberish. >> [laughter]. >> And he also loves walking and talking. So that business where. you know, every. >> can't walk and talk. >> I can't walk and I cannot walk and I. cannot Unless [laughter] he's carried on. a toilet. >> I'm carried on a toilet Yeah. all my. scenes. >> [laughter].

>> But Oh my god. >> It's interesting cuz you. you you've. had kids. I know that you then battled. breast cancer. And you made a decision to just take. time off, but I heard you say somewhere, I'm not going to do some announcement. that you won't be seeing me for a while. >> Yeah. Which I thought was cool because. when people announce, I'll be stepping. down from my career Yeah. momentarily, I. always think no one asked, you know. I'm. like I always think it's so funny when.

people do that. I'm like, you don't play. for the Lakers. Like no one's being. like, where are they Tuesday night? Where are they? I'm like, you're an. actor. Like everyone wants to make this. big announcement and it's like, I think. if there's somewhere where people are. expecting you to be. Yeah. You know, then okay, you should let us know you're. not going to be there, but it was like. it was a it was a personal decision. And. um. and and yeah, I just felt like I just. had gone through. If your wife dealt with post-postpartum, but I had the worst postpartum anxiety.

Did you have that at all? >> Yeah, I did. >> Yeah. I was ready for postpartum. depression. They heard about it. I'd. never heard of postpartum anxiety. Mhm. And so it was um. like about a month after Malcolm was. born and all of a sudden I just like I. wake up at 4:00 a.m. My eyes just pop. open and I just go. and I just feel it in my chest every. day. It's like that every day for almost. a year. Mhm. And I. >> I just I I would just have to hold his. arm going from room to room sometimes. And that would just feel like cool the.

rest like sometimes it'd be cool, but it. would always be there. And I didn't understand what it was. I. didn't really say anything to anybody. about it. I just told him like I don't. really feel good. I'm just kind of. feeling anxious. And it wasn't until um. Um it wasn't for like 9 months or. something until finally I like opened up. to I think my therapist about it. And I. I wasn't able to make a lot of breast. milk. Um and so then I um I really tried. and my son was struggling because I. wasn't not giving him any any any.

nourishment. And it was uh. so. frustrating. And so I was like I'm just. stopping. I'm going to put him on. formula. He's going to be okay. But by. stopping cold turkey like that, I didn't. know even if I made a little bit, what. happens is your hormones drop. Oh. And. everything like I had I was not prepared. for that. So then it just it just. dropped me into like the the depths of. postpartum hell. >> Ugh. And um I. I was spiraling. And then I ended up. getting um people asked me like what. what were your thoughts? Well, the thing. is I didn't have thoughts. Thank God I.

didn't have any thoughts of self-harm or. hurting anyone else. Um and I have. my heart goes out to every woman who's. experiencing that. And there's not. enough sympathy and empathy and. understanding for that. Um it's it's. it's absolutely um. horrifying to to feel those things. I. can imagine. So that was a big part of. reason why I was like, "Okay, I need to. take some time away." But I wasn't. thinking about that yet. Right when I was getting out of that. postpartum haze, I was like, "I'm. feeling good." Then I get diagnosed with. breast cancer. >> Yeah. And then it was like.

it was a a very aggressive fast-moving. cancer that was like all over both. breasts. So I went through many surgeries, five. surgeries. And then in that process, I. was like I think I need to step away. from being in the public eye. >> Wow. And it's also just important to. point out you had no symptoms. Mhm. And. so you took this lifetime risk. assessment test Right. which told you. you had a very high number and that. saved your life. I mean that's huge. >> Yeah. Yeah, the the clear mammogram and. a clear ultrasound and I did clear.

genetic testing um as well or genetic. testing it came back clear. Um a lot of. people ask about BRCA and BRCA is um a a. is a very well-known breast cancer gene, but there are many breast cancer genes. and I tested negative for all uh cancer. genes. Yeah, so um there there's a I. know. The lifetime risk assessment test. um. and it's a free online test it takes. minutes to take. It's been around for a. very long time, but a lot of people. don't know about it. Anything above 20%.

um is is considered high risk and it's a. score that will tell you how likely you. are to get breast cancer in your. lifetime and mine was 37.3%. >> Okay. So I went to go get the MRI. and the doctor called me that day and. he's like I think I I see something on. um on your right breast. You should you. should go get a an ultrasound. So I was like okay, I'll go get the. ultrasound and then. doctor's taking. you know, some time and it's never. really good when they're quiet, right? So I'm like is everything okay? And. she's like well, I see the one from the. MRI, but now I'm finding two more.

I'm like okay and then she explains it. to me. So with our women our breasts are. like circles and then they put a cross. through it and then there's quadrants. And so multifocal means there's. more than one in one quadrant. Multi-quadrant is that it's two. different quadrants. It's not. it's not that abnormal to have. multifocal in one quadrant, but it's. abnormal to have it in Yeah. Yeah. multiple quadrants. So they're like. okay, you should go get a biopsy. So I. go get a biopsy and they're like. yeah, it's a very aggressive fast-moving.

cancer and and it's not normal to have. multifocal multi-quadrant at your age. And then they're like well, let's go. back to your original MRI and look at. the other side and they looked at the. left breast and they go okay, yes. We. got to go an MRI biopsy on this." And. they did that one as well. And so. um they're like, so then I was diagnosed. with multifocal multi-quadrant bilateral. breast cancer. And then after my double. mastectomy. they sent it off for pathology and they. find. um a tangerine-size section of more. breast cancer in my right breast. Cuz.

you know, they look for it's called. clearing the margin. So when they get. your tumors, they take the tissue out. and you want to make you they want to. come back and be like, "Okay, we we were. able to get a clear margin." So whatever. tissue sample we got, we were able to. say we got the tumor because there is. clear there's clear tissue all around. it. Um and because they did my whole um. double mastectomy, they were able to. take all the tissue out, but they were. like, "Okay, we weren't able to get. clear margins till past like a. tangerine-size section of more.". So um and that was and I would never.

have I I would not have found it until. it was a much [clears throat] later. stage if I didn't take the lifetime risk. assessment test. Jesus Christ. And then. a year after that, a little less than a. year after that um. I would have my mom do a mammogram. My. mom just turned um 70. I had her do um a. mammogram [clears throat] and an. ultrasound. It's clear clear. And I did. her lifetime risk assessment score and. she scored um in the high risk. And so. then we had her do an MRI and she has. um she was diagnosed with HER2 breast. cancer. It's a type of breast cancer.

that can double in size every 6 weeks. >> What? So when she when she got when we. found it, a few weeks later she has her. double mastectomy and it already become. multifocal. Ah. Cuz it was at that time. Yeah. You do. It's so. >> [laughter]. >> It's a really I'm actually working with. Senator Mark Kelly. on legislation that will help um make it. a lot easier for women um to have this. done just because the onus shouldn't be. on us to always know about these things. And I can I'll I will you know, this is. a.

one of the biggest missions in my life. besides being you know, uh a mother and. and a wife and a daughter. I want to um. help as many women as I can with this. It's so simple, but it shouldn't be um. on us to know about it. You know, when. we go into our doctors, they take our um. blood pressure, they ask about like our. cholesterol, and they should also say, "What's your lifetime risk assessment. score?" And so we're working with I'm. working with um Senator Kelly on. figuring out a way to um. get every doctor in our country to make.

that part of their standard of care. >> Yeah. All right, lifetime risk assessment. test. That is huge. I'm writing it down. Yeah. I better write it down for you. >> specific one, the Tyrer-Cuzick one. I I. have it in my link in bio in my. Instagram. Um cuz there's there's one. called the Gail something other that is. the Tyrer-Cuzick one. They're all a. little bit different for some reason, but We can put it in the show notes. >> Yeah, yeah, put it in the show notes. Well, now you're working on your friends. and neighbors with Mr. Jon Hamm, and I. bet it's nice to be, you know,

and my night must be nice to be back in. it, I would think. Kind of therapeutic. to be working and, you know, Yeah. um. and. making that great show. I really do love. that show. >> Thanks. I'm so happy you like it. >> Um and. we got to do this again sometime. >> Yeah. Oh my gosh, it just settled in. What else we going to talk about? >> [laughter]. >> Well, um you know, I uh Finding hoses? >> [laughter]. >> I hope my friend my friend Cara I'm. going to make her listen to this. She.

was the one who taught me that. She's. She's a She's an architect. Do you know. California Chicken Cafe out here? Of. course. >> She's like the the VP of branding there, and she's the one who. redesigned all of the California Chicken. Cafes out here. They're like all the. time. >> I've noticed they've got a new look. Yeah, they do. >> They have new They have new font and. everything. That makes me like the. chicken more. When it's [laughter] all about. presentation. If a chick Sometimes there's a really. good chicken with bad font, and I'm. like, "I'm not eating that shit." You're. a big font guy. >> I'm very big on the font. >> What I learned is they did better during.

COVID than a lot of places cuz. everybody's looking for like just a. healthy easy alternative. So much so. that they don't do eating anymore. Yeah. >> just pick up. You know a lot about this. place. >> no. I sure do. >> She knows her uh fast foods and your. food outlets, right? Isn't that fair to. say? It's not It's not really It's not. like Carl's Jr. >> I didn't You're just listing off a whole. other places, yeah. >> Okay, it's it's it is it's like that. It's good. And I like you don't have to. walk in. They have like a window now and. you just go order and pick it up.

>> out by us? There's. I don't think so. I If I If I go to one, it's the one on Melrose. Excuse me, we're talking. Let us talk. Can I just. say the best one of all is El Pollo Loco. because It's El Pollo Loco. Please. Okay. I like La Polla Loca. myself. [laughter]. I like to feminize things because women. need to be heard and seen. >> [laughter]. >> But also, I like a chicken that's gone. insane. I like a chicken that's eyes are crossed. and it's gone insane and and then the.

chicken is telling you eat chicken, but. the chicken's gone insane and it's this. crazy thing where you're like a. chicken's gone so insane, he's telling. people to eat more of my kind. >> Yeah. Game recognizes game. Exactly. Game recognizes fowl. >> [laughter]. >> Um all right. Well, my best to. uh to Cookie John, you know. I mean. uh and. >> Well, I love him. Listen, uh be well. I'm so glad that you're healthy. I'm. glad that you have these two beautiful. children.

Um and that you have this great family. I'm just very happy for you. Aw, thank. you so much. I mean, it really means a. lot. I mean, um just so happy to be here. with you guys. I mean, we love your. show. Everybody loves your show. And um They have to. It's the law. But it's been so nice. I don't want to. leave now. Well, you can stay. This is a. nice place to hang. >> What do you guys do next? We usually. just go out for a tasty freeze. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. And a little California Chicken Cafe. CCC. Yes. Yeah, that's what I call it.

>> interview somebody else after this or. you have one a day? No. We tend to. record more stuff, but Yeah, I don't. know if we're doing more. I mean I'm. Yeah, I would We're next week we're. doing We do segments separately and all. that. I think that's it for today. You know. Yeah. Um Sometimes we just do. local news and weather. >> [laughter]. >> How many episodes do you do a year? Well, this is interesting. You're going. to be the 400th episode. >> Hey! Me? Yes. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, which means you get a pair. >> someone. You get a pair of socks. Someone didn't. plan I feel like it should have been No,

it doesn't No, please. It's like But you. get a pair of socks. That's exciting. Olivia, I want to thank you. >> wait, sorry. Hold on. >> [snorts]. >> Yeah, you can Yeah. Yeah, adjust your. clothing and here we go. Olivia, thank you very much for being. Oh, hi. >> [laughter]. >> Start again. Olivia, >> Yes. I just want to tell you that it was. lovely having you here on Conan O'Brien. Needs a Friend. I do consider you a. friend, and I wish you all the best in. your future endeavors. And now I say.

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Hey. >> Yeah, we're doing a segment. Uh Conan. and team, I'm a huge fan. Love listening. to your podcast, and it is one of the. things that got me through chemo, so. thank you for that. >> That's Good for her. You guys. should do a segment where you guys. discuss new words that kids use these. days. Hey Kira8Kira, I'm so glad that. you got through chemo, and love the. suggestion. It's the new What What the. words that kids are using these. >> kids are using these days. Do you know? Sure, there's rizz. I've been told I've. got rizz. by no one. I was going to say,

name one person. >> No one. I apparently I am rizz-free. Uh but it's a good word. Yeah. It's good. slang. Do you know what the slang is. these days? Uh I know cap, no cap, and I. know. >> What's cap, no cap? Cap is. uh you're telling the truth. No cap is. you're telling the truth. Cap is when. you are. uh not telling the truth. Okay. That's right. Yeah, because it's all. about hiding behind a cap. Someone. explained it to me. >> Oh. Oh, so so So, use it in a sentence. Um.

Hey dude, you're You got You got a cap. on right now? Oh. What? Well, no, I'm. trying to use it in a sentence. I know, but I just told you you have no cap. Hey. Conan, uh no cap. Uh you did great at the Oscars. Oh, thanks a lot. Yeah. Okay. Um I don't like that. I I. [laughter]. I just think it's. these new phrases should be easier to. say. Yeah. >> what I mean? That's why like the guy's. got rizz makes sense to me because.

you're saying a lot in a very short. little word. Yeah. >> Um, that's why uh I think it's useful. No cap cap just feels like it's you're. complicating something that's, you know, >> not meant for you. Um, and then I think there's the one. about any I didn't Don't they add maxing. now to everything? >> there's all like frame frame mogging, gesture maxing. >> Oh, well, that's because of um the. social media uh star um who who's who. looks maxing who who which she uh helped.

invest. And I thought of a joke the. other day. I ran over a controversial um. social media uh person with my truck. Yeah, I was charged with clavicular. homicide. Okay. >> [laughter]. >> Look, I'm getting mad respect. I wrote. that joke the other day. Cuz um. I saw him being a douche somewhere and I. just was like, "Okay, that's a. >> Sona Sona has her head down like she's. going to puke. I don't know what to Can.

you No, I did a bit on the Oscars that. was all about me trying to appeal to. young people. But the whole joke was. that's impossible if you're doing it on. uh you're doing it on broadcast. television. And that was the joke. But I. it someone sent me a clip of clavicular. watching it and saying, "Dude, that's wasting his time trying to. be cool on network TV." And I thought, "No, that's the joke, clavicular." But. then I realized I'm engaging in an. argument with clavicular.

>> [laughter]. >> No, I would And that's when I thought I. I should use this time for good and. write a joke about clavicular where he. gets hit by a truck. And then I came up. with it. >> [laughter]. >> We in. Sorry, you're you're you're charged with. clavicular homicide. Come on. High fives all around. >> No high fives. You say so much. nonsensical words. I feel like you could. come up with it. >> I could come up with something a lot. better than cap, no cap. That's Okay, okay, let's say hey, are you serious? Is Say something that's.

like, hey, this is serious. >> SRZ. Sears. No, that's a department. store for people who still remember it. >> it's a long gone. Sears is so long gone, we can change it and it's just SRZ. Okay. >> what are you going to do? >> I can you say I'm Sears like it's 1998? What's that? I don't know. >> [laughter]. >> Okay, you're I think I'm better at this. than you are and I think you're drifting. away. >> [laughter]. >> What do you think? You must You're the. closest to this age. >> going to say we Adam's probably the. expert cuz his kids are like the perfect. age that. >> Yeah. I do hear cap, no cap. Uh.

>> Tell them it's not good and to switch to. Sears, SRZ. >> Low-key, people say all the time and you. actually in your Oscars thing said, which was really funny and we say it at. home now, low Can you and Lee or. something like that? >> low key, low [laughter] key, yeah. Which. I think you made up, but it's like a. play on low-key. They say low-key a lot. >> I just said what Skyler Higley told me. to say. That was one where it was like. teaching a dog how to speak by putting. peanut butter on its lips. >> [laughter]. >> Skyler said, say these words and it will. be funny and I went, okay, Skyler. So Sears. So Sears.

Hey, Sears. I thought that was a good bit. There was. another one. Yeah. Uh no, no, but what. what's the. You don't know? I feel like I don't. know. >> No, no. Uh Blake has one. Yeah. Oh, a. lot of times people will talk to chat. like, yeah, chat. That's you know, cuz. when you're live streaming, you're. looking at a chat that people are. talking about, but people are bringing. it IRL into into real life and and. saying, oh, yeah, chat, let's go out to. dinner at, you know, Chipotle or. whatever. >> Well, well, I don't but. Okay.

They're referencing that yes, a chat can. be having while you're can can be. happening while you're having a. conversation online. >> chat instead of guys. Like, hey guys, let's go do this. Hey chat. >> okay. That's bad. >> like the silent scream, I feel like Gen. Z does. Have you seen that where they'll. go like, Oh. I've never seen that before. >> They'll also say bet. Yeah, bet. Bet. I've heard a lot. >> is really big. >> You know what I want to do? I want to. grow even older in ignorance. Okay. >> dream is just to drift away on the ice. >> Okay. Uh, and just not know about no.

cap, chip chop, flip flop, squiggly doo. >> I love it. You do? Do you Did you not use slang terms when. you were younger? Um, I think I used slang terms from the. 40s when I was growing up in the 70s. >> [laughter]. >> You must have been so cool. >> hey, 23 skidoo, you know? >> [laughter]. >> I was always trapped in the 1930s and. 40s in the late 1970s, sure, you know? So, um, yeah, I was a weird weird kid. and no one should do as I did. All. right, I think we learned a lot and also.

in a way we learned nothing. And maybe. we now know less than we did before. Mhm. >> And we've accomplished our mission. Sears. Sears. Sears.