Molly Shannon (Full Episode) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

Hi, my name is Molly Shannon and I feel. proud and cool to be Conan O'Brien's. friend. >> Oh, okay. Uh, no, you're not. [laughter]. >> I don't think I generate a cool vibe, but. >> Yes, you do. >> Really? >> Oh, yeah. Are you kidding? The coolest. >> Hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien. Needs a Friend. I'm joined by Son of. Obsessian. >> Hello. And of course, uh, Mr. Gory, how.

are you, sir? >> I'm well. How are you? >> I'm really good. Although, we did. discover recently that the chair I'm in. makes noises. >> Yeah, it does. >> Are we going to oil this chair? What's. going on? >> I am not the person. >> Did we find out what's wrong with this. chair? >> I'm actually I will say uh Jason Chi and. I are ahead of the game. We already. switched that chair out for you. So, this is a new chair that doesn't make. noise. >> We just interviewed a very famous. celebrity. Yes. >> And while I was talking to him, I heard. [screaming]. >> Yes. It sounded like a very old Jimmy Stewart.

at an auction. >> But what [laughter] it was uh what was. going on? Who who would allow a chair. like that to even be in this room? >> Well, we're not exactly We don't test. the chairs every day beforehand. >> This why you didn't get that job at. NASA. [laughter]. >> Well, we don't test the rockets. That's. why we didn't test I mean we kind of. operate in in this studio. We kind of. operate on a oh when it breaks then we. fix it versus being ahead of the game. We kind of wait for something bad to. happen. >> I don't know. I You just looped Eduardo.

into your failure. >> Oh no. >> And uh and that's not No, >> I go by that. Yeah. >> Let's just make sure we have the proper. equipment. >> Everyone looked at the clock to see how. much more time we have during this. segment when I started speaking. By the. way, >> yeah, I do just mark when to rap. I. wasn't judgment call. Bl. I like you and. I appreciate I don't look at the clock. I just look for something that I can. hurt myself with. >> Just made it so awkward. Like we want. you to just stop talking. >> But we tell you that. >> But everybody just looked at the clock.

about it. Literally, you all look as. soon as I started speaking, everyone. looked at the clock to No, they didn't. I didn't look at the clock. >> You did. You all looked over there. This. is on [laughter] video. >> Keeper of the time. That's my job. It's. nothing personal. Yeah. >> Okay. But now you've talked a lot on. now. I'm looking at the clock a lot. >> I apologize. Your share is fixed. It's. fixed. But it did make a big noise and. it was a big problem. >> No, another big problem that needs to be. fixed right over [laughter] there. >> I'm sorry. >> You're saying that this this institution. literally is not a welloiled machine.

>> Exactly. [laughter] It is not. >> We had a topic and then we went down. this primrose path. Sorry. >> What were we talking about? I can't. remember. Why don't we just start over? No. No. This is fine. Just shut up. >> When did you decide? When did you decide. that you needed to steer the podcast. left and right? I got this. I got this. What a mad man. >> Leave the man alone. He does a lot here. >> Yeah, I know he does a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of the uni bomber. >> Okay. So, [laughter]. we had I'm talking to you now, Matt.

Let's see. Let's see if Interjecty can. just settle down for a second. >> What about me? >> Uh, you're good. [laughter] Okay, >> we'll get to you. We had a topic that we. agreed on before we started. >> We're going to talk about the fact that. Sona's sons have learned to swim. >> Oh my god, that was the topic. Full. disclosure, we sat around for the topic. We trying to think of that. >> That was the topic that made us say. hallelujah. >> No, it was. She brought it up and you. went, "Okay, let's go.". >> I know you did. I just was saying. >> you approved it. Wow. You know what's. looking tempting right now? Blaze multi.

volume discussion of squeaking chairs. [laughter]. part four, chapter one. Um, [laughter]. but uh, okay. So, let's let's commit to. this and see if there's something. [laughter] there. So, Sona, word on the. street is that your twin sons learned to. swim. >> Yeah, Charlie and Mikey can swim now. >> Okay. And. >> no floaties needed, baby. >> What was the process? >> They went to classes and had an. instructor one-on-one, and they taught. them what to do, and they they did it.

>> Wow. Well, that's a [laughter] good. story. >> I've got a story. No, but I I have one, too. >> I want to I. >> Do you want to hear about how I learned. to swim? >> That's what I was going to say. I want. to learn how you you learn. >> Let me show you how you tell a story. about swimming. We went, they made a. promise that the swimming would be. learned. It was learned and all was. done. [laughter]. >> No conflict. >> Then no conflict, no plot point. And. then everyone was happy and then long. credits, 40-minute credits. >> We did have a little bit of a conflict. >> Oh, good. This is how you.

>> didn't want to lead with that. >> They were learning how to swim in this. one pool and then they thought they. could only swim in that one pool. >> Oh, you took them someplace else. Then. when I took them home or we took them to. another pool, they were like, "This is. not the pool we swim in.". >> They [laughter] they took sight specific. swimming lessons. >> Yeah. It only works in that one pool. I. can understand that. That's sweet. Um. when I was a little kid growing up, and. I think I've mentioned this before, uh. we didn't have a summer house or. anything, but we would stay at my. grandfather's summer cottage. He had a.

small house uh near the state beach in. MissWamakut, Rhode Island. And so all of. us, the giant O'Brien clan, would cram. into my uh grandparents house and that. was our favorite thing. We'd go there. for like a month in August and we would. go down to the beach and it was time for. us to learn how to swim and my mother. signed us up for red cross classes that. they taught in this marshy area that was. near the uh near the state beach. And it.

was, you know, not the most appetizing. body of water. It was like a salt marsh. [laughter] Uh, this is where you're. going to learn to swim. >> Yeah. And you'd like climb through some. some tall reads, maybe be attacked by a. a crane, and [laughter]. you know, it had that boggy smell, methany smell. Anyway, we'd all gather. [laughter] Of course, my mother um I. would burn constantly, and so she would.

just put white t-shirts on us, which we. now know just attracts more sun. [laughter] Um, and I would get giant. blisters on my back. >> I'm just picturing these little red. children. >> No, I was so [laughter] walking into a. swamp. >> I was so red. I don't even think they. had come out with sunblock yet. >> This is, you know, the early 1970s. [laughter] So, she put I think she just. put mayonnaise on our faces and then I'd. be attacked by these. >> for the animals. >> Yeah. [laughter] Attacked by these marsh. animals. So, I'm sitting there like.

cross-legged and this woman would. lecture us and then she would say whose. turn it was to go in and and the first. thing she wanted us to learn was how to. float on our back. And I remember she. would always read through all our names. and we had to say present, but she would. always say the same thing. She would go. c n o nan O'Brien. And then on the ride. home, my brother Neil would go Conan. O'Brien.

Conan O'Brien. And I would sit there burning like. [laughter]. shivering cuz you get like blisters and. then you're shivering. uh and and covered in just like a. methany bog smell. >> and still like a some kind of marsh bird. still nestled in my shirt. That was my. traumatic introduction, >> but I do thank the Red Cross for. teaching me how to float on my back, which I can do to this day, which I can. do to this [laughter] day.

>> And yes, you have a story. >> Oh, well, uh, a year ago when we we. hired a swimming instructor for my. daughter, Glenn. [laughter] And, uh, so. this is the first time she's coming. over. We've we've never met her. She's a. wonderful young [laughter] woman. comes over, gets out of her dayclo into a leopard. print one piece, very attractive young. woman, sits there. Neither none of us. have entered the backyard yet. And she's. just sitting there in the pool. Turns.

out she's in our neighbor's pool. And. the the mother of the neighbors comes. out and it's like, "What is this woman? >> She went to the wrong house. >> She went to the wrong house. What is. this? Is my husband having an affair? What is this woman in a leopard print. bathing suit doing in our pool? And she. came over. She figured it out and came. over. She's like, "I'm so sorry. I just. I just went to your neighbors and the. wife was there and she thought maybe I. was having an affair or something." And. [laughter]. can I just say this is the excuse I use. every time Liza catches me cheating.

Who's this bikini bimbo in our backyard? Swim instructor who mistakenly came to. our home. [laughter]. >> I say that every time. And Liza goes. home. Yeah. Oh my god. >> So, did how did the lessons go? [laughter]. >> Fine after that. >> Okay. And she and I are very close now. >> I bet you are. >> Uh, listen, the important thing is it. started off with us not knowing what to. say. >> Um, and uh, and Bli.

stumbled and bumbled as most large. forest bears do, >> but you did help. I think my anger. towards you um caused me to come up. suddenly remember this story. Maybe it. was maybe it was me prompting you guys. with some good premise. >> It could have been but don't we always. say let's just go we'll figure it out. But also it was Sona's inability to tell. a good story that I think out of panic I. rose to the occasion and then you rose. to the occasion. So Sona you helped too.

>> You're welcome. That story that just. went nowhere. >> I have a question though. Did any of you. have a relative who just threw someone. in the pool and that's how that relative. learned? But Eduardo's Yeah. My my dad. did that to my cousin. He just threw him. in the pool. >> Eduardo, why don't you tell your tale? You were thrown into a pool. >> I was not, but I've had cousins who were. thrown into the pool to be like, "Figure. it out. Learn how to swim." Right. >> I. did that to one of my kids, but I just. gifted him a bank safe at the same time. >> Went straight. It was a bad.

>> Yeah. Happy birthday. Here's your bank. safe. I'll never let go of it. Now get. in the pool. Um no. Uh my wife's. grandfather who fought in World War II, amazing guy. Um he used to I think like. in the 50s like her father, you know, um. my my father-in-law and his siblings, I. think they would just get tossed in the. pool. >> Wow. >> Uh by this, you know, tough guy who had. >> fought in the war and you know, battled.

and stuff. Yeah. >> Uh was like, "Get in the pool.". >> Out of a landing craft on the beach at. Omaha Beach. >> And it worked. >> Oh, no. No. Uh they mostly died. >> Oh, man. There were a lot of siblings. >> And he had to flee. He's still wanted. for murder. [laughter]. >> No. >> Yeah. Yeah. He's a 98-year-old fugitive. Um [laughter]. >> all right. My guest today is a hilarious. actress who was a cast member on. Saturday Night Live. Now, you can see. her alongside Will Ferrell in the new.

Netflix comedy series, The Hawk. Uh, this woman is one of my all-time. favorite human beings, and I'm thrilled. she's back on the podcast. Molly. Shannon, welcome. [music]. Molly, uh, listen, I've known you a long. time. You're going to listen to me now. I don't know. I said listen. Listen. [laughter] here. I've known you a long. Now. You listen to me. Uh, I'm a huge. admirer of yours. You have the best.

energy. Molly just walked into this. building and just made everybody happy. >> It's sunshine. >> But that's the effect you have on. people. You You were talking to. everyone. You were talking about how. much you love the building. You were you. were hugging me. You were hugging our. our booker, Paula Davis. >> Um, >> I got a hug. >> A. >> even you got a hug. Yeah, even you. [laughter]. >> Come on. >> I always feel like we have Oh, here's.

your coffee. Let's have this coffee come. in. Thank you very much, Maddie. >> And you're fired. >> Thank you so much. [laughter]. >> Uh, so I've always felt like uh a. kinship with you, Molly. And I I don't. know [clears throat] if I'm correct in. saying any of this, but we both are. Irish stock. >> Catholic. >> Yes. Irish Catholic. Yeah. >> Okay. I used to watch you uh you know. over the years when I first was watching. you on SNL and I would notice that you. would just throw yourself around with. >> absolute careless abandon.

>> often into stacked chairs classroom. chairs [laughter]. >> as Mary Katherine Gallagher you know and. at the time I remember thinking well. those must be made of foam. >> and then I found out later no they're. just the same chairs they use in a. classroom which are the most dangerous. thing in the. I would do that and I would think. I think it will get a laugh.

>> would throw myself into a pile of of. nails. >> if I thought people would laugh. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I thought this Molly Shannon. [laughter] there I don't know I need. it's just always made me very curious. about you and I've always felt like. we're quasi related. Is that possible? I. know it could be possible. Um, but. >> how how Catholic were you growing up? >> Very Catholic. My dad was really um, you. know, Yeah. We went to church all the. time and he was very uh, I would say.

very religious, you know. Yeah. Yeah. He. believed that you shouldn't have sex. before marriage or you should put your. marriage certificate above the bed. Like. that type of Catholic. >> Oh my gosh. Interesting, right? Yeah. Yeah. >> He felt like you shouldn't live with. somebody before you were married. Yeah. Well, that would be my parents as well. >> Your parents, too? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. >> They were both very Catholic. >> Yeah. >> Um in almost a 19th century way, you. know, like it felt like interesting. >> And they were both very smart. My.

parents were both very smart people who. lived in the modern world, but came from. this 19th century idea. I think a little. bit of how one should conduct oneself. >> I love that oldfashioned values. I was. going to say, but regarding the Mary. Katherine stuff, I feel at that time I. was much crazier and more reckless and. it felt a little bit like I didn't care. and I I wouldn't even feel pain when I. was doing it. I would feel nothing. I. would feel it the next day, but I. couldn't. >> the next day. >> Does that isn't that like I wake up. bruised and cut and I could not feel it.

in the moment at all. >> My wife would always notice like I'm. getting out of the shower and I would. just my whole leg would be yellow and. purple and she'd say, "What is that?". And I go, "Huh?" And then I'd remember, oh right, we had a water buffalo on set. and I jumped on it and I got thrown off. of it. You know, I would remember these. things and it didn't hurt as much at the. time because I was getting all the. adrenaline of people laughing. Haha. >> Yeah. >> Orange man fell down. [laughter].

>> And then you didn't even notice you were. bruised and. >> No, you don't really think about that. stuff. And then later on you'd notice. this leg won't work. [laughter]. >> Exactly. I'm just walking in circles. >> Yeah. >> I think you used to watch mass on. television cuz I remember that being a. fixture when I was staying at my. grandfather's uh house. My grandmother. and grandfather would have the mass on. television and I remember being kind of. fascinated by that because sometimes it. was the only thing that came in. This is. before cable. And you would just watch. whatever came in like, "Oh, we're.

getting reception on this one [laughter]. channel. It's a Catholic mass. Let's. check it out." It beats going outside. and playing like other [laughter]. people. >> Yeah. My sister Mary and I would watch. the mass for shutins they called it and. we would count and they would show. people going up to communion and we. would. >> to get the to get the wafer. >> to get the way for we would we would. guess how many people were wearing. GLASSES [laughter]. like one two three. >> and so it was I mean today you were you.

were looking into the future because. today that's the kind of stuff people. bet online about they can you can make. any kind of bet and that's the kind of. thing people would been online about. now. >> My friend's son started Poly Market. She. >> Oh, you're kidding. Mhm. Yeah, >> that must be going. >> Wisdom of the Wisdom of the Crowd, right? Yeah, I know. It's amazing. But I. was going to say and then we would watch. this other show called Dave and Goliath. right after. Do you remember that? >> Of course I remember Dave and Goliath. It was Claymation. >> Yeah. >> And it was there was a boy named Davey. and his dog was named Goliath. And.

Goliath would be like, I don't know, Davey. That doesn't sound like a good. idea. And they were made, I think, by. the Catholic arch dasis. >> Yes. >> And they were little morality tales. And. so it was always, you know, this. claimation boy. >> Yeah. >> Saying, "I'm going to go over there and, you know, throw paint against that. wall.". >> I don't know, Davey. Oh, there they are. There's Davey and Goliath. >> Guys, that's so cool. Yeah. >> Love that show. >> So, that show was weird.

>> Some of the episodes were very strange. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I I'll have to go. back and look at it, but I remember. >> Let me refresh your memory. >> Okay, [laughter]. >> I'm glad you brought this up. There's. one. My brother Neil and I howled for. days about this. We were watching it. Davey and the whole family's on a. camping trip and Davey finds this. beautiful spring, like a little watering. hole that all the animals are drinking. at, and it's just beautiful. And Davey.

finds a can of red paint and he pours it. into the watering hole and says, "Look, I made a giant strawberry shake." Haha. And of course, the dog goes, "I don't. know, Davey." And then you see all the. animals. Yeah. You see all the animals. try to drink out of it and they can't. >> Do they die? >> And I think they're going to die. >> And the father has a stern talk with. Davey and I thought Davey's a [laughter]. sociopath. Yeah, >> that's amazing.

>> That's really messed up. >> I'm going to put plutonium in this water. supply [laughter]. >> so no one in New York can have a drink. of water and anyone who does will die. I. don't know, Dave. That's an act of. terrorism. [laughter]. >> Anyway, I'm sorry I went on a jag there. >> I love it. Wait, Conan, do you are you. like a do you consider yourself an. extrovert extrovert or do you ever have. time when you're not performing like not. being bruised, waking up bruised where. you're just like have to be quiet and. just reading or.

>> it's a funny thing where I want to say. I'm a I'm you can be both. It's a weird. thing, but you can be an insane. extrovert, which I can be, and then. there are other times where, you know, people come to the door and I just kind. of want to stay in my room. >> Yes. >> Because you almost feel a shyness like. >> I don't want to turn that guy on right. now. >> Yes, of course. >> It's It's weird. You can be both. I'm. guessing you're both. >> I'm both. Jack Nicholson used to say. when he would go out in public, he would. have to be the mayor. You have to be the.

mayor. Oh, hello everybody. You know, like really? And I like that's a good. way to put it. Yes, I'm definitely both. I I love being around people. I'm like. you and I I get energy from people, but. I can be by myself for hours and be. completely entertained hiking and being. quiet. Yeah. So, I think I'm an. extrovert introvert maybe. >> Yeah. I think you can be both. I just. spent a weekend and it was my wife was. out of town and I just it was me and my. two dogs cuz my kids are both, you know, uh out of town. >> and I just. >> spent my whole weekend either reading a.

book or walking with the dogs. And then. I came in today and I can't stop. talking. >> I know. That's amazing. >> And it's been a problem. They want to. sedate me. >> You've been alone. So, do you feel like. giddy when you're by yourself at the. dog's house? Like by myself and like I. could do whatever I want. And how long. do you sit and read? How long can you if. you have the luxury of time? >> Oh, I would read for hours if I could, you know? I mean, with breaks. >> Yes, with breaks. >> And I blame apps. Apps have shortened my. reading uh time. But [clears throat] um.

as long as I take a little break um I. can I can read a lot and I like it. Makes me really happy. >> This is interesting because. >> when you describe your childhood, it's. not like mine and you've talked about. this I know a lot and you've talked. about it on this podcast how your dad. very unconventional in some of his. thinking. Yes. because at one point in. in one way he's he's very Catholic and. very strict but in another way he had. these very strange ideas that he was uh.

about what it is to have a child I. guess. Is that fair to say? >> Oh sure. Yeah. >> Like he would encourage You've never. talked to this about this with me but he. would encourage you to cheat. >> Yes. Yes. Mhm. He did not care a lot. about. >> So this is a guy who says no premarital. sex. [laughter]. no premarital sex and you can't live. with someone before you marry them, but. if you can cheat to get ahead, do. [laughter] it. >> He was like that. No, he just he he.

really thought street smarts were like a. great thing, you know, learning how to. make a buck and make it in the world and. school. He he would say if I had a big. exam and I was stressed out in high. school, he would say, "Can't you get a. call in sick and get a copy of the test. so you can go in the next day?" So he. really did not care about school. He was. so laidback and um yeah, he was much. more into street smarts. Isn't that. interesting? >> It's fascinating. >> And then Yeah. So he didn't mind. And.

then if we went to the amusement park, like he's like, "Okay, if you guys clean. out that backyard, I'll take you to. Giaga Lake, this local amusement park in. Cleveland." And then but then when we. got there, he was like, "I don't really. want to have to pay." So he's like, "Can. you guys sneak in, hop over the fence?". And we were like, "But there's barbed. wire. You go around." [laughter]. And he was like, "Just do it. Do it. It'll be an adventure." [laughter]. Because he didn't want to pay. >> It's funny that he's defining this as. street smarts. >> I know. These are just crimes.

>> These are crimes. >> These are just [laughter] crimes. >> These are crimes. >> Yeah. It was all illegal. >> He was wild. He was fun. Or you go to. the movies, right? He didn't. Yeah, I've. told these stories before, but we would. go to the movie and then after the mall. or whatever, they would have those gates. that they would pull down like at. Spencer's Gifts or the wig store, whatever. >> And then we saw a wig store coming out. of the movies at the mall and he was. like, "Stick your little hand in there. and try to pull out a wig." [laughter]. >> You have little rit to it. >> They thought it was the claw game that. [laughter] you get in an arcade. It's.

like that. You just reach your hand in. if you can get it. You can. [laughter]. It's a jewelry store, but if you can. catch your hand in there, >> but we do it. So, I pull a wig, w big. wig from me and him and my friend Ann. and we put them [laughter] on and we cry. laughing running out of the mall with. our wigs. >> No one will ever catch us. They said. leaving the mall wearing three crazy. wigs. [laughter]. >> Arrest that man in a beehive hairdo. >> No, there there is 100 crazy stories. like that. He was wild. He was a rule.

breaker. But yes, he was traditional. But understand the Catholic stuff was a. little messed up because he is uh he. ended up admitting right before he died. I said, "Have you ever thought you might. be gay?" And he was like, "Most. definitely.". >> Oh wow. >> And um so I think he was conflicted with. his. >> what he's not alive to say what he would. have been whether it be bisexual, homosexual. But I I did say, "Have you. ever thought you might be gay?" When he. was dying of cancer 72, we were sitting. at the Four Seasons Hotel. I was on a.

pressure and he's like most definitely. and then we talked all about it. So I. think the closeted homosexuality or. bisexuality was mixed up with the. Catholic stuff. Does that make sense? >> Of course it does. Yeah. >> Because he couldn't fully be who he. wanted to be. So I think he had. >> anger about that not being able to. express himself. >> Yeah. >> So. >> and then it comes out your elbow. It. says there's a phrase I've always. thought that I've heard used, which is. if you can't admit some essential truth.

about yourself, you think you can. suppress it, but it's coming out in some. way. >> Yes. Yes. Exactly. >> And that means stealing wigs through a. great [laughter]. >> Exactly. >> Uh you I heard this one story that you. and one of your friends used to go to a. hospital to eat food for free. >> How would you do that? >> That was so fun. Well, THAT'S KIND OF. [laughter] LIKE. OH, THIS ONE'S FINE. OH, YEAH. >> NO, I don't think we did it. No, we. didn't. We would pay for the food, but. it was kind of like I still feel that.

way. It was if you've kind of felt in a. little bit of a rut, I would do I would. try to throw myself into a different. atmosphere. >> like, oh, let's go let's just go up to. the hospital and we'll get lunch and. we'll get like cream of broccoli soup. and a split tuna fish for salad sandwich. and we can watch the doctors. And it. felt inspiring to be in a different type. of atmosphere. I still feel that I still. feel that same way. And when I would. when I was first in LA and I was. struggling as an actress, I would get. kind of depressed cuz I was like, "Oh, this is so hard. It's such a hustle. I.

didn't realize how hard it was." So, when I felt in kind of a blue mood, I. would drive to Ontario, California, and. I would go to the Wilfford Academy. School of Beauty and let the young. students do my hair, and I would get. breakfast at Molly's, and then I would. feel better. kind of throwing myself in. a new new atmosphere, >> right? >> I think it's like traveling but like. little cheap ways to kind of. >> open your mind. >> Yes. Yeah. It's not um. >> there is this concept uh among you know.

neurologists you have to just keep. challenging your brain. You just keep. changing it up. And then one of the. problems is people get into a rut and. they're not challenged. So, it sounds. like the almost the ultimate way to say, "I'm going to hang out with some scuba. divers just to see what that's all. about.". >> Exactly. >> Even though I haven't passed any classes. and I could easily die underwater. I'm. just going to try it. >> Well, I love reading about brain science. and stuff and I do think if you do feel. in that state, sometimes an action can. help you kind of get out of your head.

and I think Yeah. So, I love reading. about that. Also, if you ever felt like, you know, angry or something, if you do. or kind of supercharged, if you do a. math problem, like a subtraction problem. in your head, that can also calm down. your amygdala. Or if you I just love the. idea of thoughts and how you can change. your thoughts and um stuff to do to help. you get out of a little rut or. something. Does that make sense? I love. reading about that. >> Yeah. Every now and then I'll be doing. something and a friend say, "Well, this.

doesn't seem very like you." And I. think, "Well, that's good.". >> Yeah. Yeah. because I I want to try. >> Like what kind of thing, for example? >> Well, I don't talk about it much on the. show, but for years I've I drive a. motorcycle. I ride a motorcycle and. people don't know that. And I I do it. kind of like I just like and you can be. another person. >> You can put on a helmet and then you can. just go and as long as you have credit. card in your pocket, you can pay for gas. and you can go anywhere. And sometimes I. just feel like I'm a different person.

when I'm doing that. And I take off. >> for most of a day and come back and I. It's very therapeutic. >> because I'm being someone else for a. while, which I really like. >> Yes. I love that. >> I also kill people at random. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. >> No, you can. You can if if it's. completely random. Nothing links you to. the crime and then you get away. But you. have that feeling of like I'm choking. the life out of you. [laughter]. You know, you know what I mean? And then.

you run quick burial, shallow grave, and. then you run away. [laughter]. >> And then you just feel like I was just. that guy for a while. >> I've done that second one a lot. >> Okay. >> And I lied about the motorcycle. [laughter]. >> I mostly just killed. >> anyway. Try it. You're going to really. like it. [laughter]. Um, I know that we're here to talk about. this project that you're doing with with. Will Ferrell. >> Yes. >> And you two have.

>> such a unique chemistry and relationship. that just goes back. >> Had you worked together before SNL or. was SNL the time that you came together? >> Oh, that was the time we came together. I worked at Mel Melon uh it was Melrose. Baking Company and Will was in the. Groundlings Comedy School across the. street and we had a mutual friend named. Patricia Carter and she said Molly I. really think you're going to get along. great with this guy Will Ferrell and I. was like bring him over to the coffee. shop. So he came over and I was like. nice to meet you and what do you want. and he was like I'll have a scone and a. latte and then we just started talking.

We became friends. We've been friends. for over 30 years and um. >> we we did click right away just like she. said and I got on SNL first and Will. came shortly after and Will Yeah, we. just right away was like clicked so much. and have been really close close friends. for so long. >> And then you're on SNL together and. everything else happens. >> Yeah. And I really did feel like the. press was kind of behind and when we all. first started, all us newcomers, they. were kind of like, you know, really hard.

on us. And I remember thinking, wow, the. press is really behind. They're just. kind of copying old press and will to. take the like to not feel bad. He would. um hang up the worst reviews about. himself on his office door. >> Oh man, >> isn't that wild to just kind of take. the, you know, to not feel ashamed about. it. And I was like, God, good for him. I. could never do that. But I remember. thinking they're wrong and they don't. these people are really good. I'm like. this is good. I So it helped me. understand the press a little bit where. I was like wow they're like outside and.

haven't caught up yet. >> I remember first hearing about Will and. someone said oh yeah I've been hanging. out with this new cast member Will. Ferrell and um at the end of the season. he dressed as a character on some sketch. >> and he decided to just keep wearing the. the costume. >> Yes. And I don't know if it was like a, you know, like a boiler suit or some. kind of over-the-top weird costume, but he wore it for weeks and weeks. And. a friend of mine said, "Yeah, I saw him. at the Natural History Museum, and he's.

still wearing that outfit." [laughter]. And I said, "I don't know who that guy. is, but I love that guy." And this is. before I knew him. >> Yeah, we I'm blanking on the character. that I know. He loves doing that kind of. stuff and it's so he's really just. entertaining himself and it's just so he. it's just so fun and and he's so. creative and I think Will too is more. serious too than people would expect. Like we know his big comedy side, but I. know his more serious side and it's so. >> Yeah, it's a real drag. Yeah, it's. [laughter] awful.

>> Um no, I I I know what you mean. It's. you know what I mean. I think what's. tough, and I think it's the same thing. with you, too, is. >> people would assume you or Will are just. >> kooky. >> all the time and over-the-top. >> entertainment machines. >> and both of you are very soulful, >> real people. >> You have a very serious side to you. >> Yes. Yes. Very. [laughter] And and and. do you find that there are people when. they first meet you who think they're.

going to meet the Molly Shannon who's. going to throw herself into a bunch of. >> chairs and then they find someone who's. really talking to them seriously about. an issue. >> probably. Yeah. I think because I think. I am more serious. I really like to get. to know people and if I have time and I. think I'm more a one-on-one and I think. I'm shy than people would think too. But. yeah, I I do feel that a little bit too. Yeah. And the whole thing too with. critics like what you were saying too. I. feel like I'm very conscious too of like. God you could so easily you know the. whole like show biz is such a hustle and.

I just don't like getting into that. thing of like going back like you're. good you're bad you're good you're bad. I think I can really repeat like. childhood patterns and so I try to be. healthier. >> You know when you think about life and. how lucky we are to be healthy. I just I. just don't I don't really worry about I. I try not to get into that too much. >> Don't you think having a family helps? >> Oh my god it helps so much. It's just my. everything. Like I'm just so glad I'm. alive to be there and do it. It's it. affects every decision in my life. My. children, I I want to be there. I love.

being a mom. That's my number one. So it. m it makes showbiz less h I'm very I'm. pretty laid-back about it, I would say. >> Yeah. You have like a solid foundation, like a solid basement foundation of this. is what matters and then. >> the other stuff can come and go. >> Yeah. And I feel like I just don't want. to do that to myself, like rile myself. up like that, like never feeling good. enough or that you're only as good as. your last thing. I'm like, "Ugh, enough, [sighs] you know? I want to I I feel. like I'm proud of myself and I try not. to have to need that so much from the.

outside." Does that make sense? Yeah. >> Otherwise, it just feels so unhealthy. And I feel like there can be a nice. place to be healthy and be creative and. not like not not worry too much about. that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know. Uh, >> I worked hard in therapy to uh not rile. myself up like that. >> What kind of therapy did you do if I'm. not being too EMDR? And uh do you know what that is? >> No, I just said too [laughter]. look like I know what's going on. >> It's more for like trauma where you do.

like bilateral stimulation. And so if. you were nervous, you would [snorts] you. do the beep beep beep beep like the. little um there's like a buzzer where. you would you would hold the buzzer and. it and you go back into you would you. could pick like supercharged moments in. your life like the top five where you're. like and uh feeling scared or whatever. and the the bilateral stimulation kind. of will bring it from like a 10 to like. a three. So you slowly kind of can. reprocess this these tra trauma. Yeah. Yeah. >> And so it really it's it's great.

>> Did you ever do cognitive. >> cognitive? Um I mean yes. Yes. >> Cognitive is so fascinating because they. say if you have a good imagination it. can be great or you have also have a. great imagination for bad things. >> Yeah. My my career is over. I suck. I'm. terrible. >> All these things David writes to me. every day. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. Every morning. >> Just little memos. Um but I start to. spiral and go down. And one of the. things I learned is write it all down on. a piece of paper. Yes. >> Write it all down on a piece of paper,

walk away from it for 10 minutes, >> come back and then read the piece of. paper. >> during a worry time. >> Yeah. And you read it in like I'm the. worst person who ever lived. And I go, "Well, no, Stalin was bad and [laughter]. >> Hitler." I mean, yes, I'm bad, but I'm. not that bad. And then, you know, >> you find evidence contrary to the. beliefs. >> But also, a lot of the things you've. written down just look silly, >> you know, like they just look. ridiculous. And it's helped me talk to. my kids if they have anxiety. >> All these little tools, but I'm always.

looking for the another thing, you know, because you okay, I've got those tools, but I'm always looking for the next. thing. >> Yes. I love that. I I I love that kind. of stuff, though. But that does make. sense, the act of writing it that you. can put it aside and then when you go. back and look at it, you're, you know, you're like, "Yeah, I just I just wrote. a great book called Social Anxiety for. the Overthinker and it talked about that. same thing." And I I love that kind of. stuff. I talked to myself out loud. One. of my kids overheard me. I don't want to. talk. They're private and stuff, but I.

was talking to myself in my office and. that one of them overheard me and I was. like just going through these files. It. was kind of tedious. And I was like, "You're doing a great job, malls." Out. loud. [laughter]. And one of my kids heard me and they. were like, "Yeah." They yelled over at. the house, "You're doing a great job, malls." [laughter]. But I I I wasn't aware that I was doing. like a kind of Long Island co talk lit. talking to myself out loud telling. myself I was doing a good job. I don't.

know. It just came out. You're doing a. great job. >> Isn't that [laughter]. love I love positive selft talk, creative visualization. I feel like life. is hard. Like any tools that can help. you. For me it's exercise. It's like I. have to I feel like I'm in great shape, but it's not really about exercise. It's. about It just makes me feel so happy, so. good. I sleep better. >> It just makes me relax. >> Do you do this? Cuz exercise releases. all these endorphins. And so what I have.

found is. >> I'll get on a treadmill and I'll run. really hard. It's like, wow, I did I. just did 40 minutes on the treadmill. really, you know, really going all out. and I'm sweating and I get off of it and. I'm I'm euphoric. Yeah, >> I am euphoric. And when I've been on the. treadmill, I've had all these ideas and. it's like, I'm going to, you know, I'm. going to learn how to play the obo and. I'm going to become a really good obo. player. Like, I'll come up with all. these ideas for what I want to do and. I'm going to take a woodworking course. [laughter] and I'm going to I'm going to. build a sideboard and give it to my wife.

on our anniversary. It's going to be. made out of [laughter] maple and and. then I'll play the obo while she's open. I'll have all these ideas. >> and I'll start looking up stuff online. like obo classes. carpentry [laughter]. classes and then I get in my car, I. drive here to the studio, I get to work. and I think I don't want to do any of. that. [laughter]. >> I don't want to do any of that because. my heart rate came down and all of this. great stuff that gets released. So. >> I have learned don't make any calls.

>> Yeah. >> Don't make any plans after the exercise. period. Just wait a little bit. But it. feels so good. >> Yeah. Yeah. And that is so I love it. That's great. that I love that you have. that inspiration though and while you're. >> if I ever call you right after a. workout, just don't listen to me. So, I'm [laughter] going to say like you and. I should get married. We should leave. our SPOUSES AND MARRY EACH OTHER AND I'M. [laughter] GOING TO TAKE A WOODWORKING. COURSE and I'm GOING TO BUILD YOU A. HOUSE, MOLLY. YOU'RE IT'S GOING TO BE. THE BESTEST HOUSE YOU EVER SAW. >> THAT IS SO FUNNY.

>> And then I get to work and your. husband's like, "What the man? I'm. sorry, man. I just had a really good. exercise session [laughter]. and I love Molly." Sona, I understand. you've been really enjoying the new. Hyundai Palisade. That's a beautiful. looking machine you got. And you've been. driving around. The kids like it. How's. it all working out? >> The kids love it. They actually call it. the allnew Hyundai Palisade. I'm not. even kidding. [laughter]. >> How old are they? They're four. >> They're four. And they that's what they. call they call they tell their friends, "We have an the allnew Hyundai.

Palisade." And then that we they love. driving around in it. They have so much. fun. >> Tell me about some of the perks some of. the cool things about the Hyundai. Palisade hybrid. Well, you know, I'm. kind of I'm not a reckless driver, but I. don't always pay attention. So, the car. is very good at telling me if there's a. car next to me, if there's a car behind. me, so I don't drive into them. Yes. >> So, um that's a very good feature for. you. >> Yeah, those are very good. >> And I imagine for a lot of people. >> Yes, exactly. >> I got to say it's a very good looking. car. And also, I heard you blasting. tunes the other day.

>> Yeah, >> those are some good speakers. >> They are. They are really great. speakers. And you know, I have to play. music a lot for talk. My husband loves. music. My kids love music. It's all all. we have is music on. >> You're driving around. You're in like a. nightclub driving around. It's great. >> Yeah, it's a nightclub. We're bumping. tunes. Cruising Sunset Boulevard. >> All right. Well, ready to make your next. drive feel epic? Learn more about the. Hyundai Palisade at hyundaiusa.com. Call 562-314-4603. for complete details. Have you got an. ass? Then Duth Trading Company is for.

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on life support. >> Oh god, >> they went too far here. They went too. far. >> Yeah. And you read it. You read it all. Didn't even ask any questions. >> I just blacked out and this came out of. [laughter] my mouth. Uh, do your glutes. a favor. Shop at a duth trading store. near you or at duthtrading.com. Duth. trading for folks who work their butts. off. >> Conan, where do you get your work drive. from? Like, how did you dare you speak. to me directly that when you were fresh. out of college? Like, is that from your. dad or your mom? >> Uh, work was prioritized when I was a.

kid. Um, but uh, you know, I don't think. all of us learn that lesson in my. family, but I certainly. I don't know. I I decided I I remember. kind of thinking like in fourth grade. >> Yeah. >> like I'm just going to I didn't know. what I was good at. I had no idea that. I'd be good at anything. >> Yeah. >> So, I just decided, well, if I work. really hard, that'll make up for the. fact that I'm not good at anything. I. remembered thinking that it's.

[clears throat] not a cool You started. off by saying I feel so cool. I'm not a. cool person. I was I just worked really. hard when I was a kid in in a way that. makes me a little sad now. Really. worried about stuff. >> Yeah. >> And the way I combed my anxiety was to. prepare really hard for things. And then. that yielded these benefits. And then. people later on said, "You're really. smart." And I thought, I think I just. work really hard. >> Interesting. >> So, but I have I have a work ethic. Uh,

and I like to make things and I like to. work with people and make things. That's. kind of just part of who I am now. >> That's great. Sometimes I think about. show business, I'm like, you have to be. crazy. It's like I think like, you know, >> you're from Boston, I'm from Cleveland. Like, I just think, oh my god, what did. I think coming out here not knowing. anybody? Like you have to be kind of. crazy to think that you're going to come. on let's [laughter] you know you have to. don't you think I mean if you really. were to if I were to really have known.

how much work it would be and what I. would have to do and the somersaults and. back flips and what was going to I'm. like oh my god I can't believe I did it. you know. No, when I look back, yes, of. course. I look back now and I think we. graduated from this really good school. and I did well and I was like, "Okay, well, I'm going I'm going to LA with my. friend Greg." We took a People's Express. flight out there. >> My god. >> I don't know if you People's Express was. like if you had no money, you flew. People's Express. You gave them some. cash. There was no, you know, it was.

like flying. >> You give them the credit card on the. plane. >> Yeah. It was like flying a barn. You. could get on a barn and fly. Uh, they. put wings on a barn and you flew to LA. [laughter] We took a redeye and Greg. Daniels, who's gone on to create every. great show. >> Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did fine. I go to. Greg for loans. [laughter]. >> We just had this goofy existence, but I. >> The only thing I can say is it was like. a salmon swimming upstream. >> And did you come out, you guys leased an.

apartment for a year and just did you. take jobs while you were taking comedy. classes? Uh, well, we had a we had an. entrylevel job. We had a a job at uh. this show. It was on cable. It was on. HBO back when if you wanted to watch. HBO, you checked into a hotel or a motel. >> cuz no one I knew had HBO, but we worked. on this show called Not Necessarily the. News and we had a sort of a entry level. job at that, but then we would take. other jobs. I took some kooky other. jobs. >> So, did you come out with just a small. amount of money, too?

>> I love your podcast. This is [laughter]. >> I know. I know. I like the Molly Santa. podcast. >> LIKE I HAVE SO many questions for all of. you. >> Did I do what. >> did you come out with like $3,000 or did. you have How much money did you come out. with to LA? >> I can't remember what I had. I don't I. didn't uh We knew that we had this gig. We just didn't know if it was going to. last. >> Okay. >> So, we were under the impression that we. were on like a 3-we try out. I think we. just didn't know. >> Yeah. >> And so, we came out very ready to leave. immediately or that was what we kind of.

told ourselves is this isn't working. and we can do something else. But I. remembered thinking, I'm not leaving. >> That's so great. I love that. >> And I kept thinking, I just want to have. a girlfriend. [laughter]. >> That was Yeah. And no one would talk to. me. Uh. >> so sweet. >> Well, this is very sad. Uh let's talk. about the Hawk because you and Will. Ferrell are together. >> Yes. >> And again, which is as it should be. Will is out there doing all kinds of. insane stunts, >> which I love. This is the will we love.

to see. Go. >> He's out there 100% committing to being. the Hawk. >> Yes. >> Who is this downout aging PGA golfer? >> Yeah. >> And you are his ex-wife. >> Mhm. >> And tell us a little bit about that. relationship. >> I'm kind of frustrated with him cuz I. feel disappointed. I'm I'm like, "Oh, these nutty golfers." And you know, I'm. being very hard on him. And. >> And he was great in the past. >> He was great in the past in his glory. days, but now I'm like, "Oh god, I'm so. sick of your bullshit." you know, I'm.

really tough and I kind of want to do my. own thing and not rely on him and I want. to pull myself out of this these world. of golfers, these crazy. >> all consuming that world. Yeah. >> That how they can compartmentmentalize. things and and um but we have a son, but. yeah. So, but we really do love one. another. We're just kind of in a little. rocky period, but we we truly do love. one another deep down. And um yeah, it's. about our relationship, our family, and. we have a son who's a pro golfer and um. >> and who's really good. >> Who's really good. Yes, he's excellent. So, yeah. So, it's just it's just that.

whole world and um yeah, we had a blast. shooting it. It was so. >> beautiful. I am just going to imagine. that when you two get together for a. project, it's right back to could be the. third week at SNL that you're. >> Exactly. It is like that. >> There's a lot of tom foolery chicainery. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Skull duggery. >> Yeah. We we had one day where we were. shooting and there was a little stunt. woman who was hired and um her name's. Sandy Gimple, but Will said he was like, "Molly, did you see when Sandy was.

taking a rest on the ground during when. we weren't shoot?" I was like, "Well, of. course I noticed." You know, she's like. flat on the ground sleeping and we. notice the same things that we think are. funny or you know, it's just it's an. absolute joy. We talk about our kids. I'm really close to Will's mom and dad. Will was really close to my dad. It just. feels like family in all honesty. And. Will is so professional. This is what I. always tell people. He is the most. professional, most prepared, most. thoughtful, you know, just like he's.

just the best. You better be on your. aame because he Frell is ready to go. >> But see, that's another misconception. people would see a Will Frell or you. Molly and they would think, well, they're just wacky and they get together. and they're crazy together and then they. roll it. They don't understand that. there's just an immense amount of. preparation and professionalism that's. required to get to that space. And then. there can be some improvisation, but. that's like the frosting on the cupcake. You know what I mean? >> Exactly. He's sitting there and he's. looking uh uh and he can look at the. scene and go, "Yeah, we could lose that.

I guess we could cut that." You know, he's looking at the writing very. technically and excellent. you know, so. it is just all those things, but he is. there before everyone ready to go and. memorizes really fast, too. Like he'll. have these giant scenes where I'm like, "Wow, you you you started memorizing. that last night. That's hard." You know, he's just a a pro. And um so it just. feels so fun. It's just working working. with your friend and it's just it's the. greatest. I I feel like. >> there's no greater joy than when you get.

to work with people you love. It just. doesn't even feel like work. That's. truly how I feel. >> Well, that's how it in it's so many. people in the world have to do a job. >> Yes. >> That they don't maybe love or have a. connection to. >> Yeah. >> And uh anyone who gets to. >> um. >> do anything like what we're doing and. it's not just in the arts or in comedy. or entertainment. It's just, you know, people that really love what they do. That is the ultimate gift. >> It is the ultimate. >> greatest way to go through life.

>> Yeah. And you should never I think it's. so important to not buy to enjoy where. you are and not be like, "Oh, I'm only. as good as this last thing." It's. >> doesn't come with age, though. >> It comes with age. I try to just enjoy. like I'm like, if you can't be happy, I. I I had a you know, when you think about. life, how precious it is, and health, I. just think I don't want to live like. that anymore. I I had a my childhood was. up and down. You're good, you're bad, you're good, you're bad. It's like I'm. not going to do that anymore. I don't. like that. This life's too short. So, what I want to say is yes, it makes you.

appreciate I I don't like buying into. that you're only as good as your last. thing. I think if you do work that is. meaningful to you and you love it, that's all that matters. Cuz like I. said, I've seen people become superstars. who feel like they're only as good as. their last movie. And I'm like, I don't. want to live like that. Like, if they're. like that, >> I should just enjoy my level where I am. because there isn't. Do Do you know what. I'm saying? >> Of course. Well, there's also there's a. lot we can't control. >> Yes. Yes. So, if you're quote only as. good as your last thing that you did,

you have very little control over that. >> Yeah. >> Do. >> you know there have been things I've. been involved in that I thought were. just the most amazing thing ever and it. didn't No one talks to me about it. Doesn't go anywhere. And then there are. other things where. >> everyone just loved it and I don't. remember the difference. There's just. other currents things that are. happening. This is a very This isn't. I'll say this. You came in with this. energy. >> Okay. >> I'm not You're not being punished. You. look very upset. >> I know. [laughter] You came you come in. with this energy that I'm just going to. call this is going to sound very LA and.

crunchy, but you come in with this. energy that's very healing. >> A true and very positive. Uh and I just. absolutely. uh love talking to you. You have always. been I mean you you came on my show so. many times. >> through over the years. you would always. come on and be just outrageously. entertaining, but I also knew that you. were the highest quality person. You.

really are. And so to have you and and. you coming in today and just everybody. is irradiated in this Molly Shannon. glow, it's a it's a lovely thing. >> So sweet. Well, you know, thank you, Conan. That means so much. Well, I I. feel like I could almost get choked up. You know that I feel the same way about. you and I remember two years ago you. were so nice. Conan's exactly the same. all the time. Like you treat everyone. with respect and kindness and you make. everyone feel good. You have that. ability, that gift. You were that way. with my father. But I wanted to say too.

that um if I get up about comedy. or thinking too much about competition. or sure, everybody has it. Oh, he's. doing I just think when I really want to. get back to be grounded, I think really. I do it to make people feel good. Like I. like when people feel happy or they're. like I love that. That is really all. it's about. You won't get up. It's a It's I'm an entertainer. It is a. giving. It is. Do you know what I'm. saying? And if you think about it that. way, like a service almost, then you're. not going to be so self-centered about.

it. Does that make sense? Yes. >> And I want to enjoy my life on Earth as. an artist, not be like, you know, I. don't want to be that way, competitive, or you know what I mean? >> Exactly. I do know what you mean. >> Um, [clears throat]. >> but I still want others to fail. [laughter]. >> You know what I'm saying? I want people. who aren't me in comedy to fail. >> No, that's not what Molly said. >> Wait, is that not. >> That is the complete opposite. >> I agreed with what Molly said and all. I'm adding is. >> but I want others to fail.

>> Yeah. No, you missed the point. completely. >> I want to do better not because of my. own abilities. I want them to fail so. that I rise. >> I [laughter] see. You see what I'm. saying? No. Still still completely. >> Okay. Well, whatever. I think we pretty. much said the same thing. [laughter]. >> Okay. Conan, listen. getting back to the. Irish thing because my Irish shing was. that my dad could be tough, you know, this and that. My mom died when I was. little. So much of me getting into it. was a bit of a painful thing. Like my. dad really would have loved to have been. an actor. My mom died. I thought, well,

if I get famous enough, I'll bring my. mom back from the dead. It was very sad. stuff. And I still have to ask myself, do you really still want to do this? Is. this really you? Do you do you, you. know, I really have to check in with. that, you know? But that's my point. Going back to the Irish stuff of it was. it had some dark stuff. Of course it. does. You know what I mean? >> Really dark. >> Do you really? >> But also, of course I do. Yes. There's. also the. >> am I doing this because in some way I'm. not well like what's the whole wanting.

to make everyone laugh? Is there an. unhealthy part of this? Is there a part. of this which is. >> uh revenge? like I can make everyone. happy because maybe some people weren't. happy but now I'll make everyone happy. and is this unhealthy and if you get. healthy does that mean you can't do this. anymore all the dark stuff. >> I had a I just got my star in the. Hollywood Walk of Fame and I. >> congratulations [laughter] and Will gave. the speech gave a speech so nice but I. was going to say I get very shy when. people have to show up for me that makes.

me shy I can go be a celebrity by myself. alone but if people have to come for me. I get like oh god I'm going to. disappoint you or even at SNL. Will always bring tons of friends to the. show. He'd have like this, you know, he. has so many friends and I was always. like I would prefer strangers because I. felt like if a friend's going to come, they're going to get disappointed and. they're going to want to leave. >> This is me. I mean, everything you're. saying is if there's a thing where. people, which hasn't happened a lot, but. something like the Twain Award where. people come for Conan O'Brien, I was.

mortified. Really mortified that like. people I don't want people to have to. go. No, they're flying in. They're. flying in. No. And they're going to. prepare. They have to prepare stuff. And. I had done it for other people and felt. fine doing that cuz I loved the people I. was showing up for. >> Yeah. >> But I couldn't see it the other way. So. I was kind of mortified. >> And then um everything you're saying, I. always when I was doing the late night. show or any show and people were like, "Yeah, and guess what? Your friends I'm. like, "No, no, what do you mean they're.

here?". >> Yes. >> Oh, no. Now the show has to really be. good. >> Yeah. Because if it's a stranger, it's. like there's nothing, you know? Yeah. When I would do SNL, if I did invite a. friend, I have to give them a list of. rules. I was like, don't, you know, because they'd be like, "More Molly.". And I was like, "Oh my god." Like, "Really, don't you [laughter] hard on. us. You're just going to make me feel. bad." So, I had to I had like a list of. rules like, "Say that. You can't say. this." Like, I already am hard on. myself. Like, so no more Molly in the. show. It's like the love. My least.

favorite is occasionally there's an. etiquette when you come off a show. First of all, you're always going to be. great, but no matter what, oh my god, great show, Molly. That's what you do. And that's what you would say to me if I. came off stage. I love people that come. up and go, "How do you think it went?". >> Oh [laughter] my god. >> Is that Yeah. How do you think it went? I don't know. How do you think it went? I'm just curious what you thought. >> Oh, well, I guess I should get out of. the business. All right, we have to wrap. this up. Okay. >> But Molly, uh, I adore you. I love you.

You're so great. And you live in this. neighborhood. So, can we get lunch? Wouldn't that be nice? Let's do a lunch. sometime. >> Yes. It will be very serious. >> Serious. [laughter]. >> No joking. No bits. >> I'm going to break you down. [laughter]. >> No bits. >> No bits. No bits. >> It's like a It's like a No shoes, no. shirt, no service. No bits. >> Can you do it? >> I think I could do it. >> Deadly serious soap. >> It's going to be ready. [laughter]. >> It's going to be my dinner with Molly. Like my dinner with It's just going to.

be the same thing. Like serious. All. right. >> This was a joy, a pleasure. I love this. office con. What could be better? I. mean, this is so Thank you so much. Everybody loves you. Thank you guys so. much. >> Molly Shannon day is a fun day. I've. tried to start you know, start. saying I've said about you to try. and get negative stuff out there and it. doesn't take. >> no one people I'm just like, you know, Shannon, I think she's KIND THEY'RE. LIKE, "NO." [laughter] WHAT? >> HE TALKS SO MUCH about you.

>> Yeah. And it doesn't take. It won't. take. >> That's hysterical. >> I'm going to try again later today. >> Yeah. Good luck, guys. Thank you for. having me. >> Yes. [music]. My assistant David Hopping has entered. the room and you have an announcement to. make. He said. >> yes. So, um. >> I do not know what this is by the way. >> Oh, you're I think I think you're going. to like it. So, [laughter]. >> just call every once in a while. >> and he says the tests are back and.

you're hilarious. [laughter]. >> No. >> Okay. So, every once in a while I will. get tagged in different Tik Toks about. Conan. And last night I opened up Tik. Tok and I had like a bunch of. notifications. So, I clicked it and we. all know Toy Story 5 just came out and. you play smarty pants. >> There is an entire side of Tik Tok that. find themselves attracted to smarty. pants. >> And it's not like just a few. These. videos have like over a 100,000 likes.

each and all the comments are about how. weird it is to be attracted to. >> what the. >> a potty training toy. >> And I I sent Eduardo some of them to. pull up to show you. >> Check this out. >> Multiple levels. >> Ew. >> Hold on. [music]. >> Oh god. [music]. >> [singing]. >> It says it says, "Hear me out.".

>> 148,000 likes on that video. >> Oh my god. >> Uh, excuse me. >> Does it not occur to you that maybe this. was my intention [laughter] when I. brought this character to life? >> No kidding. >> What? >> Yeah. >> Walk us through your process. >> Well, I have a lot of RZ, I think, is. what the kids say. Is that right, Sona? >> I don't know. I'm not well. This is This. is so [laughter]. gross and disturbing. This is like. >> I didn't see this one coming. I have to. be honest. [laughter] I tried to You can. say I tried for a second to go with it.

and be like, "Yeah, that's what and then. I realized I can't.". >> We have another Oh, here we go. Here we. go. Here we go. You want me? [music] Give me that. GIVE ME THAT. I. WANT THE GIVE ME THAT. GIVE ME THAT. >> Oh god. No. The internet needs to go. away. >> Um, I know you're not supposed to kink. shame, but shame on you.

>> No. Yeah, you can. For this, we can kink. shame. >> Really? This is kink shameable. >> This is kink shamable. You are a potty. training toy in a children's movie. And. people are like, I what? Like what? What. are we doing? Like there's so many hot. cartoon characters out there, >> David. Oh, do tell. >> There's a lot of hot [laughter] cartoon. characters out there. Are you saying Oh, so you're saying it's not just that I'm. a cartoon character. It's that there are. other far more worthy. >> Yes. >> sexual uh Let's hear who they are. >> H off the top of my head.

>> I mean, this is not in a cartoon, but. recently I was reading a comic book and. I was like, when did Superman get like. this hot? Like there's been a lot of. illustrated characters I have responded. to recently. I just I can't think off. the but not Smarty Pants. Not. that. That is ridiculous. I'm sorry. >> You can't see it. What about the There's. a section where Smartyp Pants has my. hair. You know, it's a dream sequence. A. fantasy sequence. >> Are you asking me if them adding one of. your characteristics makes it more.

attractive to me? >> That's my [laughter] Yes. Yes, senator. That is my question. >> The answer is a hard no. [laughter] And. it's uh it's even. >> The gentleman from Boston will yield his. time. >> I yield my time. And I also asked for a. weapon to kill myself. [laughter]. >> I know that doesn't usually happen in a. Senate subcommittee hearing. >> No, >> but if there's a weapon present, I will. use it. >> You will go into a warm bath. >> Arrested. No, they don't weird. >> Okay. So, I don't know. No.

>> Uh, David, give us your thoughts cuz you. know, you discovered this. >> I was shocked whenever I clicked on it. to see what this was. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, well, uh, I don't know what to. say. Uh, >> the world is not well. No, I mean. there's hot cartoon characters. >> Again, you keep saying that. >> Okay, I think we can all agree Jessica. Rabbit is a hot broad we all want to. bang, right? And then I like even me and. I think that there's hot cartoon. characters. >> Oh, [laughter] yeah. No, I want to bang.

her. But I'm saying there's hot cartoon. characters. You are a podcast. >> We got to think of another one. Who's. another hot cartoon character? David, you're probably thinking of someone. Uh. any of the like. >> Well, I'm now strok now. We're going to. take a look in your psyche. That's. >> Skeletor. [laughter]. >> Like He-Man can get it. >> He-Man. >> Yeah, >> he can get it. >> Sure. G.I. Joe. >> Are you saying Yes. >> Are you saying He-Man. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> I think He-Man He-Man Guess what?

Skeletor. >> Skeletor doesn't. >> Skeletor. Jared Leto playing Skeletor. Unfortunately. Unfortunately. Skeletor. is DTF. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Yeah. He bones. He bones. There you go. Nice. Nicely done. Nicely done, Blade. >> No, I remember my friend had a thing for. Gambit from X-Men. That like he's hot. >> That's a cartoon character. >> Yes. From X-Men. Gambit. But I just I. this this this is one of those things. where you're like people don't need to. post everything.

>> That's the That's the human. He's a. machine. He's for kids. He is. He kind. of a childlike. being himself. >> Well, I think uh he has many of my. qualities. So, yeah, probably a little. bit childlike. >> Like I would do Woody before I did. Smarty Pants. I think. >> Buzz Buzz Lightyear for sure can get it. >> You know, you can get him if you just go. to the store [laughter]. >> for raking the Toy Story. All I know is. that a minivan packed with Disney.

lawyers. >> on their [laughter] way. >> is driving from Anaheim to this podcast. studio right now at a0 [laughter]. miles an hour. >> Absolutely. >> And you know what? Anyone who goes to. see Toy Story 5 the day after this comes. out Yeah. >> is going to see just. >> just pixels where I used to be. >> Yes. >> And a burn mark on the screen. >> I think that's for the best. We lost any. chance of you being in the sixth one. >> Actually, anybody that goes to see the. movie is going to be put on a sex.

offender list from here [laughter] on. out and has to go door to door in their. neighborhood. >> No, they're going to stop the film the. minute my character is about to come up. and go, "All right, you perverts. [laughter] We got you. CLEAR OUT. CLEAR. OUT. >> RAIN. A vice raid. >> Clear out. Get you in the raincoat. Get. out." [laughter]. >> Oh god. >> Oh my god. >> No. Even Even Wall-E before smarty. pants. I have a list, you know. Can I say what? Now you're just being mean. >> No, I'm not. Wall-E. >> Wall-E is like sensient and he got Eve.

>> and sensual apparently. >> Yes. No, he got he landed Eve. There's. like a thing to him. There's a there's a. sensitivity. There's nothing about your. character. >> That's just What are you talking about? I'm I'm adorable. [laughter]. >> I mean, you're talking about pee and poo. poo most of the time. A lot of your. humor is like pee on you. [laughter]. I saw what the character was and I said, "Oh, you want the Sona?". >> Okay, this is happening. Those people up. there putting this upper into some weird. [laughter].

>> Uh, well, listen. Uh, I think the only. way to decide this matter is for. everyone to go see Toy Story 5. [laughter] in theaters now. >> The biggest. >> And guess what? The van just turned. around. [laughter]. The van just turned around. It just did a hard 180 and it's. [laughter] head headed back to the magic. castle. >> Oh my god. >> Uh all right. Uh peace out.