Matt Gourley Wasn’t Supposed To Be On The Podcast | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

Adam Sachs are a wonderful Overlord here. at the podcast uh he's a podcast genius. he's the Boy Wonder um we owe him our. thanks great Deb of gratitude he alerted. me of something on Reddit and the title. is is Conan's podcast using the dick. dork and deer formula I started. wondering if Conan is using a classic. Radio TV construct known as the dick. dork and deer formula for those. unfamiliar this is a common structure in. big morning radio shows where the dick. plays the antagonist saying the boulder.

jerky things the dork is quirky or. socially awkward creating funny friction. the deer is the heart of the show. keeping things grounded and often. echoing what the audience is thinking I. have a theory we're using the dick dick. and dick. for three days CU I think it switches on. and off all the time I don't think there. is a deer here you know what's amazing. is that when you hear that if I was if I. didn't know any better I'd say oh that. makes sense and um I'm sure there is a.

format for these things people would be. stunned by how little thought went into. Conan O'Brien needs a friend true it was. I mean honestly it was Adam saying Conan. you should do a podcast and I said huh. well if I do it I better have Sona there. because that's just she's in my life uh. she's my assistant and uh we seem to be. really funny together and it's a real. connection and then um they said we need.

a dick and they brought Matt Goran. professional dick a professional dick. you guys are both dorks and dicks yes. you're both dork dicks yeah yeah or dick. dorks dick I like dork dick. dorks uh we're corked dicks yeah ready. to blow you are though I mean I think we. are all definitely dicks I think it's I. think I think it's a different formula. but I think that is very interesting. that that is a Formula when I think. about it now whatever we come up with is.

random this is a Jackson poock painting. except it wasn't even painted by Jackson. Pollock there was a can of paint on the. side of the road uh it was painted by a. dick yeah a car ran over it and splorch. a bunch of paint onto a canvas and. that's what this is for better and. clearly worse yeah but uh right is that. now you weren't thinking anything like. that were you Adam you're Adam you're. allowed to jump in oh here he comes he's. just uh he's unfamiliar with the format.

so he's sitting 50 ft away I is this mic. on the headphones are not okay wow so. you're the podcast. genius just do I speak into this. tube uh no I the answer is no I. definitely was not thinking that we I i'. never heard of that dick dork deer thing. either uh it I I can see how it makes. sense but no that wasn't the thought the. thought was start with you you actually. said like you want some people around. you you need people to bounce off of you.

you can't just do this by yourself um. and you could it probably be better well. said you didn't no what I said was I. don't want it to be too good oh so let's. make sure that son is here in Gorly. remember you know like sort of if. something gets too if a nuclear reactor. gets too hot they put in these rods to. cool it yeah of just sort of mediocre. stuff dick dork dick you're dick Dorking. it big time right you're doing a dick. dork better than you do I'm being a dick. and I'm also explaining how reactor.

works well we should we should give some. credit to Jeff Ross uh. who and not Jeff Ross the the uh the the. roastmaster general comic Jeff Ross my. producer of 31 years yes who who 25 of. them very capably he also identified the. fact that you and Sona have a great. thing and it's really funny so we should. have Sona there and um and I had known. Matt for many years at that point worked. with him for many years and so I when we. said we wanted you know uh the best.

producer in my mind there Matt's the. best conf something you had me come into. a meeting and Matt was there and we met. yeah we got along great and you said. well Matt will be the uh producer at the. time I thought that meant he was I'm not. this isn't a bit or anything I thought. he was behind a glass case me too. producing it I had no idea that he'd be. in the room with us and um when you were. in the room with us and talking I was I. was was like oh I was.

surprised and for Years hated it yeah I. mean I got that sense just years no no. I'm kid um no a surprise and then. immediately saw oh this is no this is. great this is a triangle this is. triangulation because you I'm going to. take a second and be legitimately nice. to you you bring so much great stuff to. the podcast and you think differently. than I do not as quickly and not as you. were so close not as uh you know all.

dear a little dork not as touched by the. gods you not kissed by the gods but uh. but um you do such an amazing job and so. that was but that was a complete. surprise to me same with me because I. had no uh understanding that I was going. to be on mic I was just supposed to come. on and help develop the pilot but I do. remember one of the first times you. engaged with me on mic and in true. service to this thing it was a question. about Star Wars oh and you turn turned.

to me as like what do you think of this. and I had this answer about the prequels. or something I didn't even know you just. looked like someone I think it was. because you were dressed as a. Jedi and I mean in a child's Jedi. costume the kind that ties around like. an apron and just says Jedi on it not a. good Jedi not a cosplay Jedi but an. 11-year-old going out on Chris on a. Halloween Jedi I did in the back of my. mind think there was a world where Matt. like you guys would Matt would speak. more but the Prem was that yeah you.

weren't going to talk you were just. going to be the producer you like got. there to be a microphone out there where. I was kind of like why is there and I. wanted there to be a microphone in front. of you just in case and uh and for a. while I kept I remember this but for. easily the first 20 episodes I was. hiding your microphone you were I'd come. in early I would using a saw I would saw. it off I know you didn't know they just. come off I didn't know some you just. duct tape my mouth too that was harder. cuz you you're quick you're very quick. but then bla comes stumbles in BL is.

like if you're at a campsite and you. don't put your food away bla will show. up so bla stumbled in and um you know he. was. like like outside the tent and then he. started saying things we thought okay. we'll blae here and then Eduardo now. Eduardo designed the studio right. Eduardo is the one here who actually. knows things he actually has skill he's. trained he's talented and and you. actually.

uh Matt you have some actual real world. abilities in editing I don't do anything. Sona. Jesus I'm. sorry but you know the way light can't. escape a black hole I mean just you what. you don't do anything and it's amazing. it's absolutely amazing does it. infuriate you a little bit I love it I. love it I love it you're right you are. the best at doing nothing like you've.

turned it into an like not only an art. you just always been Sona and it's. amazing don't change a thing okay but. that's also an insult oh and um but no. I'm I'm I mean Eduardo is the one who uh. designed the studio uh just makes this. whole thing hum you're the Maestro you. deserve so much better for me except you. have to take the occasional shot because. you're a human being the room with me.

that's fair and you have to absorb some. of the hate that was uh crystallized in. Brooklyn Massachusetts in the' 60s this. is going to sound Cy I can't take credit. for hardly any of it uh I just do what. you guys allow me to do so oh you know I. hated that he's a he's a deer he's the. de that's the deer right there there's. three deers over there I knew you going. to give me for it but I have to. should we be more like those those like. you okay oh you're going to do the. dick part also we don't have sound. effects and I think all those shows.

have and fake fart noises and stuff yeah. we use real farts here we don't use fake. fart noises we can't afford we couldn't. figure that out we have a fart. mic mik son's always carbo loading. before every episode get ready 900 lb. cans of beans give me some beans give me. some beans I got work to do I got work. to do and then Eduardo's always like you.

know there is a fart sound effect that's. literally on this board so he like that. sucks yeah we we give me the fart mic. there's there's just one we have to pass. around or are we individually Mike okay. I'm I'm calling no there's one fart mic. and then when you feel it you give a. look someone's like it's fart time maybe. we say it's son to your credit you're. always ready to go.

when you feel it son is always ready to. go you are money in the bank yes I do. yes I want to wrap this up but that's. the origin story of. how oh God wait a minute that was so. sounded like that sounded like wet. corduroy ripping I know that did not. sound what is was that was like a lung. being pulled out of someone's chest. Eduardo different type of farts what was. that not like anything I've ever.

someone falling into a trash compactor. that was Aquaman. part all right all right farts and the. wet farts are not that funny the. first that one was that one was funny. this is I know comedy really have turned. into a radio drive time show this is all. right well avoid the. 405 avoid the 405 and uh we'll be back. with the Wack. Pack right here on z55 535.

[Applause]. B hit the. fart Jesus so pathetic that's just a. dead person that person's been dead for. 6. weeks but we're all laughing at the fart. farts are always funny no never funny oh. God God.