Lisa Kudrow (Full Episode) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

[music]. Hi, my name is Lisa Kudro and I feel. still really good about being Conan. O'Brien's friend. >> Is this a dayto-day thing with you? >> Still every day I ask I take a walk. [laughter] and then I go, "Wait, how do. you feel about being Conan O'Brien's. friend?". [music]. >> Hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien. needs a friend. joined by uh well no. Matt Gorley right now. He's still out on.

paternity leave. >> Yeah, >> it's been six years now that he's been. on paternity [laughter] leave. >> This child uh just joined the army. Um. uh good to have you here, David Hoppin. >> Great to be here. >> And um and Sona Obsession, of course, as. always. You were late today. Uh we we. just taped an interview that you weren't. here for. What happened? Was a little. bit of a snafu. >> There was a little bit of a snafu. >> What happened there? Um, it wasn't in my. calendar. So, if it's not I'm like, you.

know, if it's not there, I don't know. it's happening. >> Is this a physical thing? You write in a. physical calendar? >> What do you like? I have a calendar and. I write in it with my. >> Yeah, it's got like, you know, a a. fireman with no shirt on, you know? >> Oh, like a calendar. >> That's the kind of calendar I picture. having. You probably like a sexy guy. calendar, right? >> That's a digital one. But then there's. other calendars that get sent that do. have it on there. And I didn't pay. attention to those. >> There was a show about um male dancers.

that you were obsessed with. >> They weren't dancers. >> Oh, they were jigalowos. >> They were jigalos. >> You're obsessed with jigalows. Did you. have a jigalo calendar back in the day? >> I did. I have a jigalo calendar. >> every month. And see, this is why I. asked you. I picture you having like a. jigalo calendar or a shirtless fireman. calendar or now a heated rivalry. calendar. >> Yeah, baby. >> Okay. And then the problem is you get so. distracted by the hunks that you don't. write things down. Every time you go, "Oh, I'll write down I've got to be in.

there for that interview for the. podcast." And then you look up and it's. one of the the shirtless hunks from. Heated [clears throat] Rivalry and you. go. and then you forget and you just write. blither blather blather. >> Yeah. Or I just drool all over it. >> and you draw butt. You draw butts on the. calendar. >> I draw Oh my god. I draw butts. But. maybe maybe that's my system for putting. things in my calendar. >> Yeah. Two butts means uh I got to get. into the podcast. [laughter]. >> Three butts means I've got to go see my.

my orthopedic surgeon. >> Yes. It's a it's my butt butt code. >> Yeah. >> It's the butt code for my calendar. Look. But then also today. >> and then you use different things. There's some butts. There's some. penises. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Six butts and two penises is Mikey and. Charlie need to get their shots. [laughter]. This is her system. The ancient Incas. used knotted string [laughter] instead. of recorded language and it they it. worked fine. Sona uses a series.

[laughter]. >> of butts and dicks. >> Yes. >> Uh and in a certain order and I mean. your when you published your version of. uh King Lear, it it was fantastic. >> People are going to look at my calendars. thousands of years from now. And they're going to be relics of butts. and penises. And then people are going. to worship. >> Yeah. I realize that it exactly explains. the solar system and the movements of.

the sun. >> Yes. >> I I think so. I think it's a very. special system. Anyway, so I went to a. workout class this morning. [laughter]. >> Anyway, aside from my ancient Incan or. Aztec calendar of butts and dicks. >> Yeah. >> Onward. Yes. So, butts and dicks. calendar. Then I went I went to work out. this morning and I was driving somewhere. and then I got a a a text from Bl, which. is the one of the scary texts to get. when you work. He's like, "Where are. you? What's your ETA?" And I'm like, "Oh, I'm supposed to be somewhere right.

now." And then I called and I found out, but I look like. >> you you look you look like you went to. the gym. >> Yes. Look at me. Look at my hair. >> Well, I think you look great. What's the. problem? >> Shut up. >> No, no, no. I mean, >> I mean, thank you. No, I feel like uh. I'm I'm really wishing you didn't have. so many subscribers on YouTube right. now. >> Okay, so here's the thing. I want to. know what your workout is because in the. whole time I've known you, you've never. said to me, "I'm off to the gym for my. workout.". >> Yes. >> You've never done that.

>> I don't. >> So, what do you what do you do? What is. a workout? >> Today was the first workout I WENT TO. >> THAT'S I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> YEAH. >> This is gold. I'm a prosecutor who just. happened to ask a [laughter] question. and you said, "Well, when I purchased. the murder weapon and committed the. murder.". >> I thought today would be the day that I. >> So, today was your first day where I did. a spin class at Soul Cycle in Pasadena. Shout out. Give me No, don't give me. some. I'm probably not going to go back. I was really.

>> You are not going back. >> It really I suffered throughout the. entire thing. >> Okay. So, also I picture you like. yelling back at any instructor. If they. say, "Okay, now ladies, let's go. Let's. We're going up a hill now." You're like, "Fuck this. I'm not going up a hill.". >> I was saying it under my breath. I was. like, "Shut up, Shut up, bitch.". As she was talking and telling me, >> "You're not allowed to yell at the. instructor. I'll cut a bitch.". >> Yeah. I But I wanted to. And the whole. time I was like, "This is stupid. Why am. I doing this? I want to watch TV. What. am I doing? Why am I doing like I was.

taught I had an internal monologue that. was so not what you should have when. you're in a workout class. I hated every. second. >> Did you have Were you while you're. working out, is there a big container of. red vines in front of you [laughter]. >> that you're eating while you're. >> Yeah. like six calories out, like 12. calories [laughter] in. >> Someone's feeding it to her. >> Yeah. Yeah. You bring an assistant to. feed you red vines. [laughter]. >> Well, I'm glad you're here and um Yeah. >> I'm sorry. I I missed the interview.

>> Don't be sorry. I mean, yeah, you would. have had fun. Yeah. >> But uh. >> I know. I I like who you interviewed and. so I'm bummed. >> I know. I'm sure I'll interview uh you. know Barack and Michelle Obama again. soon. >> It was [laughter] Sher. >> Yeah. And Sher. It was Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, and Sher. >> Oh my god. And oh, and the survivors of. the band Queen. Um they But you know. what? We'll do you'll come to [laughter]. >> I got John Deacon included and he. doesn't even do anything with the band. anymore. >> You know what? Everyone was here. It was. really fun. But you wouldn't have loved.

it. I. >> took your seat. >> Yeah. Oh, and this great hummus place. sent in some food. [laughter]. >> But next time that happens, we'll we'll. everyone's laughing it up. You the. hummus place, huh guys? You like that. one? I hate everybody in this room. >> Uh this is hilarious when I introduce. this guest. It just always cracks me up. cuz we've been friends literally. forever. And uh she uh she is one of my. absolute favorite people in the entire. universe. Uh she uh stars as Valerie. Cherish in season 3 of the hilarious HBO.

series The Comeback, which people people. are so psyched for this. >> So excited. >> So psyched for it. Uh she is uh one of. my closest friends. I adore her and I. love when she comes on the podcast. Lisa. Kudro, welcome. [music]. >> I mean, we've known each other forever. >> Yeah. and uh got started together as. everyone knows in in improv in ' 86 and. and um. >> and it's still a dayto-day thing with.

you. I never know. I never know. Am I am. I still good with. >> there [laughter] have been there have. been whole years where I've been out. >> but at the moment I'm in which is fine. >> and we'll see how it goes. >> That's not true. >> The um [laughter]. >> it's the other way around. >> Yeah, I know. >> what where did that come from? [laughter]. Look, in the 2000s, I just turned on. you. Uh, [laughter]. no, we were just, it's funny cuz I mean, you came in here and you started being.

really funny and we're just laughing and. we hadn't even like turned on the. microphones yet. And it just always. feels strange when I say, "Hey, my guest. today is Lisa Kudro." Because we had. dinner uh last week Yeah. with my wife. Liza and um and you and uh Michelle. could not be there because he refuses to. dine with me now, >> right? >> Um and [laughter] he was out of town. >> I know he was out of town. We're just. trying to start trouble. >> No. Yeah. Anyway,

>> but uh yeah, we had a blast. And so it's. so funny when it's formalized. this way a little bit. And it used to be. worse. Not worse because you were always. great, but when I would say when I had. an a band and it was on TV and they'd be. like, "All right, here she comes. Lisa. and you'd come out and you, you know, the dress and I'm bowing to you and then. getting behind my [laughter] seat. >> and I I always flash back to you and I. in a Dupar's diner in the late ' 80s. going, "Here's a funny idea for a skit.".

>> Yeah. >> Well, we both got to get back to our day. jobs. >> Uh, so it's. >> Your day job was writing. >> Yeah. At least I had a I had a decent. Yeah. Yeah. And you were slinging hash. >> at the headache clinic. >> At the headache clinic, [laughter] which. was giving Why were you slinging hash at. a headache clinic? >> I don't know. You said slinging. [laughter] hash. I wanted to be a good. improviser. >> Yeah, that was good. That was good. Now. it's a very funny scene. >> Slinging headache clinic. >> Exactly. [laughter]. >> Um yeah, I'm uh delighted that you're.

here. People get very excited when you. come. >> Um huge fans here. Uh, and so Paula. Davis, who we were just talking about. before the mics came on, who's been with. me uh, forever, who's our booker, she is. vibrating for, I would say, a month now. talking to me about the comeback and the. new season of the comeback. >> That's what she was telling me. She's. doing a rewatch. >> But she's not the only one. I have so.

many friends that are telling me the. comeback. because they know that you and. I go way back. People are asking me. questions about it. I don't know. anything. Um. >> Oh, I was going to say, so the. >> a lot of people from my life. >> couldn't watch seasons one and two. They. couldn't handle it. >> It was tough. >> And I think probably for you, even. though you're too supportive to say it, but my husband hasn't seen them. Do you.

know that? >> Really? I didn't know that. >> Michelle has not seen all of season one. or all season also. I think that's. really sweet. I watched both of them and. thought it was brilliantly funny, but. because I'm such good friends with you. and care about you, it's hard. It's. hard. >> I just don't even know what anyone is. talking about [laughter]. with that. I can't like I'll tell you. makes me nervous that I'm something's. wrong with my version of reality because.

you're not the only one. >> It's like because they're so humiliated. for her. >> You play it so brilliantly close to the. bone. And for me anyway, there was the. character of the writer Paulie G, >> who was just so. mean. And that actor did such a great. job, especially Yeah. in season one. He. was. so good at being a type of writer I.

know, >> right? >> And it made me [laughter]. >> but you know, not supporting you at all, you know, making. >> just wearing away your confidence uh and. so much anger and bringing so many of. his own issues to that situation. >> that because I don't know, I've been in. that world It was hard. It was hard just. like I I told you I wanted to like fight. him at one point. [laughter] I said I.

said I don't want to meet him because I. think I want to hit him with a 2x4, >> right? >> And poor guy. He's a lovely guy and a. terrific actor, but uh he needs a. beating because [laughter]. >> But listen, I mean, cuz we had a. writer's room the first season. >> and every one of them knew that guy. >> Yeah. So, we weren't making him up. And. the thing is is that to me it was really. obvious that this guy thought he was.

having a promising career. You know, we. hear that he was a Simpsons writer. He. won an Emmy and, you know, and now he. has this show and then the network tells. him, "No, it has to be this." Oh, and by. the way, just to hedge our bets, there's. a companion reality show. Yeah. >> And. >> and and it's that would be enraging. Yes. to any showrunner. >> Yes. >> And he is a particularly assholeish, right? And has whatever feelings he has. about.

>> her cuz she is annoying. She is sort of. >> right. >> phony. And what do you do with that? And. just shut up. Right. Right. Right. [laughter] And. >> I've been that's been a solid five. minutes of me monologuing, [laughter]. by the way. But to me, it was really. obvious like what he's pissed off about. And Okay. >> No, no, that's fair. I just uh. >> there's a. >> and he's punishing her, but did she seem.

punished? >> Well, she's. >> Sona says no. >> No, she's like blissfully almost. >> I wouldn't say blissfully. I would say. Valerie Valerie Cherish is. >> valiantly unaware. >> Valiant [laughter] unaware. But also, I. think one of the reasons she's that way. is she's not completely oblivious. She's. she knows that she's hanging by a thread. in this business. She knows that um and. and you play it so well. you're.

uh excruciatingly. optimistic in a way that's so forced. because you know that. >> this isn't all going your way and you're. so thirsty. You really want to win that. Emmy. You really want and what's amazing. to me is that it really does capture. something you see out here. >> You see it out here all the time. >> is the big four smile. I can't tell you. how many times I pass a billboard.

>> and I see a big smiling face of someone. who's saying it's all great, >> right? >> And I know that person's miserable. I I. know they are. I've met them. I know, you know, and I see those faces all over. the place because so many people aren't. happy. >> in themselves. Do you know what I mean? and and so the smile gets bigger and. >> it uh that's what you see a lot of and I. think Valerie Cherish is like the best.

character in my opinion that captures. >> something that exists out here. >> and I do have a lot of empathy for her. but I also think she's not Peter Sers as. Cluso she's not someone who's oblivious. >> no. >> things are fires are you know she knows. that oh here's the paparazzi they're not. shooting her. They're shooting someone. she used to work with. She's trying to. get to her. They're stepping on her. feet. She knows that it's not going her.

way and she's pushing herself through. the crowd. >> Yeah. I just realized I just might be. really mean [laughter]. cuz that just made me laugh. >> Well, it's funny. No, it is. >> not for her. [laughter]. >> I mean, for her. >> She [laughter] thinks it is, but it. isn't. Like, yeah. I don't. >> but it's this it's a. >> I don't know it's a really. >> to me she's what she's doing is like. that's okay. >> like that's her mantra is.

>> it's okay. >> it's okay it's okay that's what it takes. you know like [laughter]. doesn't matter and then [clears throat]. >> cuz first I was just making fun of her. season one to me yes I am mean and I was. making fun of that and after we were. done I had a friend And she's smart. This woman, her name's Merade. She's. really great. And she was saying, "Oh, but no." And she's Irish, so I don't. know. Maybe you know her. >> Of course. Yeah. [laughter].

>> I see. I see her at the meetings. >> The community. >> once we reach for the same potato at the. bowl. Yeah. >> Oh my god. >> It happens. Yeah. [laughter]. >> You mean it just a bowl of ters there? >> Fight over. >> There was a fight. >> But she said, "No, isn't she wonderful? She's just, you know, she's so she you. can't keep her down. No, there's no one. more resilient. No, she's wonderful. She's the strongest person I think I've. ever seen. And I just went, "Huh?". >> And then realized, "Yeah, because I. don't feel bad,

>> right, >> playing her, >> I don't feel decimated.". >> Y. >> when I'm playing her. >> Yeah. because I am rejecting the. rejection or the insult and turning it. into something that she needs that I. need. >> Well, she doesn't say no ever. She says. if they say, "Okay, now you've got to, you know, >> for this, I'm making this up, but if in. the new season they said, "Okay, to. promote this next project, we're going.

to you you need to be covered in duct. tape and we're going to put bunny ears. on you and you have to hop down. Hollywood Boulevard." You'd be like, "All right, well, okay." You know, I. mean, you can do it. This is what we're. doing. I guess this is what the kids. want to see now. I don't get it. >> But you would do it in 120° heat. >> Yeah. >> And probably pass out. But she is. intrepid. She's brave. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. And just I I. >> She wants what she wants. And whether. you think that's a worthwhile goal,

>> Yeah. >> is another issue. But yeah, she doesn't. give up. And there's something I guess. we like that. >> So here's something. >> I guess we like that. I don't know. [laughter]. >> All of a sudden like Lindsy Vaughn. flashed in my head, you know, like. everyone likes a come. No, but cuz I was. thinking why is she doing this? >> Yeah. >> You know, and then like well everyone. likes a comeback and everyone likes that. went I don't know. It seems dangerous. And then. >> this just happened over the weekend. I. don't know when this comes out but.

Lindsy Vaughn crashed and I think she. fractured her leg. >> Yes. Yeah. But there is the reality to. um you know she was really brave to make. that attempt but you're right there's a. high level of. there's a slim chance this will work out. right. >> but that's what makes a comeback so. incredible are the odds against it. >> and you can't have a comeback or do that. if you're not. >> just being optimistic and hopeful.

hopeful against all odds against like. what's like presented right in front of. your face. >> I don't know. But yeah, I don't know. We. do this every 10 years. >> This is what I wanted to talk about, you. know. [laughter] No, but this is the. thing. This is what I love. >> What's so [laughter] unique about this. show is I think the first one is. >> 2004. >> 2004. And. >> came out five. >> Yeah. And you were kind of I mean it's I. think it's two years or something before. Keeping Up with the Kardashians. It's.

like this is. >> you were. >> doing a satire or something that hadn't. I don't think really formed yet. >> Then you come back. >> um 10 years later. >> and now which then commented on that. moment and I think few people would have. the patience or the nerve to say these. come out once every 10 years. But it's. really cool because now I have not seen. a second of of the third season, but the.

idea that you can now. drop in again a decade later, >> it's very unusual. >> It is, isn't it? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But I'm so It's so great that we. didn't get picked up that first season. because it gets to be about something, >> right? Were you surprised when it didn't. get picked up? >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> I was surprised. Yeah. >> I Why were you surprised? >> Just cuz it was really good. >> Thanks. >> And you think, well, this will now get.

picked up. >> Yeah. >> Of course. >> Um I've been wrong about these things. before. >> I've had my own experiences, but. [laughter] but um. >> Wait, what do you mean? >> I don't know. Um but I but I think uh. >> you've only had an easy time. >> You're right. >> Um just. >> you and your privilege. >> I know. [laughter]. Never a bump. Never a bump in the road. I don't know. I I was surprised. But.

what's nice about the world we live in. now is shows used to go away all the. time. Yeah. But now there's this world. where shows can not get picked up but. they they don't go away and then you can. have this audience build and people who. and if you. >> make I mean I've seen it with so many. like party downs an example of a show. that I don't think was getting a lot of. attention but you can check in on it. years and years later and it's almost.

like the wire the you know there are. these comedy shows that okay didn't see. it didn't support it. You check in much. later on. I wasn't aware of Party Down. and then you you see it and you go, "Oh, they've really they've made a nice. little Swiss watch here.". >> Yeah. >> And it's just as good now as it would. have been if I had tuned in the day it. came out. >> And definitely the comeback had that. >> where it was building and building. And. you probably experienced a lot of people. >> when you're out at the supermarket. >> Oh yeah.

>> The supermarket is where [laughter] all. the fans of the comeback are. They are. They are. They're there. You're there in. the produce lane and you're there like, "What about those melons?" And you're. like, "I don't know. Hey, the comeback.". Um, [laughter]. but I go to a lot of supermarkets. Uh, but you must have had that experience. where you're hearing from people. >> I love that. And so, you didn't hear. that necessarily from the, you know, the. people that made the show or broadcast. the show, right? >> But you knew I'm hearing from way too.

many people. Well, even when it was when. we were on, >> we heard. David Bowie got in touch with HBO. because he was going to be on tour. He. didn't want to miss anything. So, send. him. >> Wow. >> whatever. I don't 2005 DVDs or whatever. it is. Look, I'm looking [clears throat]. like I don't know. We don't remember. [laughter] You know, >> then you find out the other shows David. Bowie wanted. Oh, [laughter].

>> no. He. >> I didn't get the latest fear factor. >> where they eat [clears throat]. >> Can you have that one, please? Um, you're like, David, >> but to and then we felt like, oh, okay, yeah, that's right. HBO, that's all they. need to hear probably. And you know, we. had a lot of bad reviews because people. didn't understand what they were seeing, >> right? And then uh by the time halfway. through there were revised reviews like. retractions and.

and. that happened. So we and also our. ratings we were doing as well if not. better than. Entourage when its first season was just. the year before and went all right. So. great. And what who else has shows that. you don't you've not seen this before? you don't really understand and then you. get to know what it is and embrace it. and it's great. Um, HBO except they kept. telling us, "Yeah, we're not HBO is not.

HBO anymore." So, I don't know. It's. really got a I don't know. We'll see. I. don't know. And then it turns out I only. found out a couple years ago there was. one guy at HBO that I don't know if I. ever even met him in charge who was just. like, "We're not going to pick that up.". Right. >> Yeah. But I have to say, yes, it was a. surprise that we didn't get picked up, but I didn't feel bad, >> right? >> I And I was in shock that I didn't feel. bad because I thought, well, look, this.

is about the best I can do. And I think. we did it about the best that it could. be done. So, I've got nothing to feel. bad about. It's not my mistake. >> Yeah. >> So, I don't know. I didn't feel bad. >> Well, that's I'm glad. Um, >> yeah. >> You should have felt a little bad. >> Oh, I'm just sorry. >> I felt bad later. Yeah. >> When I. >> As long as you felt bad at some point, I. did. Good. Good. >> Oh, no. Don't worry. >> Good. >> Oh, I felt bad. No. No. Like. gut-wrenching. It filled like a hole in.

my inside. In my soul. Yeah. Good. And. my soul's. >> That's necessary for good work. >> It is. Yeah. >> I Okay. >> Yeah. You'll You'll have it one day, son. [laughter]. >> But it wasn't, will I? >> But here's the thing. It wasn't because. it was cancelled. It was because someone. else, it was Bill Maher talking about. something and jokes that don't land. because like one joke and it was famous. I don't remember um someone making fun. of someone who's marginalized or you.

know like a victim or and he was saying, "Look, you want to make fun of white. men, you can make fun of white men all. you want, okay? Because they've got the. power." Yeah. >> But don't make fun of that person or. that thing. And I went [gasps]. women are still, you know, you can't. make fun of women in that way. Like, you. can't, oh, no, they're just, it's too, they're too easily recognized as victims. if they're and I went, no, >> I never thought of it that way.

>> An idiot. >> I mean, because so much great comedy, I. mean, >> yeah, women do. Lucille Ball, you know, Tina Fay, so many great. >> uh on and on and on have made fun of. themselves as women. >> and it's brilliant, you know. >> Yes. But Val, this wasn't the same. This. was like a a man. >> being cruel to her. And I thought, "No, it's a writer.". >> Yeah. >> You know, g have giving a hard time to.

an actress. Like, like, why is that a big shock and. horror? I mean, that's when what do you. think? What do you think actors and. especially actresses have put up with. forever? Yeah. >> You know, and haven't I don't know. >> I don't know. Anyway, >> no, but you proved me wrong. I take it. back. I'll never say it again. I. [laughter] get it. No, I get it. I get. what she's saying. >> What do you What do you give us your. input here, Sona? >> I just think you I actually think it's. part of the reason why she was so just.

kind of like okay, just taking it is. because she's used to it. I mean, that's. how it's always been for her, >> right? It's not going to change. Exactly. So, you've got to like here's. here are the boundaries. >> Yeah. >> And so, you just work within them, around them, you know, that's all. And I. mean, look, I I don't know if it's. because I've I don't know if it's I. never felt like. Oh, I'm a woman and so, you know, I. don't get to I don't know. I mean, on. some level, yes. Especially with this,

it just didn't occur to me. It's like. this isn't gender specific ambition or. >> hopes and dreams. So, it didn't occur to. me that it would be an issue at all. And. I think it kind of was that it was a. woman. But, um, >> now when you come back 10 years later. and you do the second season, >> Yeah. You did you feel more assured that I. know I really know who this character. is? I know there's a lot of fans. People. are excited for us to return. Did it.

feel different? >> Kind of. I mean, it's a little scarier. because then there's expectations and. and what Michael Patrick King and I knew. was it's 10 years later, she's 10 years. older and it's going to be different. >> It has to be different. And um you know. and then I just thought it was great. that we had her win the Emmy. >> Yeah. >> For a performance she couldn't even. appreciate in herself because she was. stuck on how tired she looked.

>> Yeah. >> in the scene. And um and I liked I liked. that a lot for her. And then of course. the huge thing is that she you know. leaves the Emmys that you hosted. Thank. you. >> Mhm. And [laughter] um I got paid. >> Oh, you did. I told them you didn't have. to get [laughter] paid. That's. >> It was. >> That makes me mad. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It was validated parking. That was my. [laughter] payment. Yeah. >> Kidding. >> But um. >> I I needed to say I'm kidding.

[laughter]. >> It's disturbing when you'll say. something like, "Yeah, and I hope. something horrible happens to you, Conan." I'm kidding. That [laughter]. that I'm kidding. chills me more. Oh, okay. [laughter]. >> Because it could be real. >> It could be true. Uh. >> I'm explaining in the joke. >> to myself. [laughter]. >> I was really yourself. >> I was really sad about um the character. of Mickey. >> Yes. >> The actor who plays your.

>> and the actor Mickey Robert Michael. Morris. >> Yeah. And he he was such a. so terrific and he completely nailed. this kind of person that we all know. especially in this business. Someone. who's been with you a long time is in. your corner and it's just you all you. were getting was you know undiluted. support. >> Yeah. >> From him. But uh and of course he's not.

perfect, but I just I was very obviously. sad, you know, that that he had passed. and that character is just kind of note. perfect, I think. >> Yes, he is. And also biting his tongue. >> Like we had so many takes he was sort of. a little bit of a reality check. sometimes when she's saying something. and you're wondering like. >> that's stupid, right? And then you like. they switch over to Mickey who's looking.

confused or. >> Yeah. >> Why'd she say that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He was great. Yeah. And that was a. horrible loss. I mean I I couldn't even. think about. >> doing more. >> Yeah. >> For a really long time cuz we'd been. talking about it and, >> you know, knew that it would it might be. possible, you know, to do more. But no, it took me a really long time to. get over Mickey. Like Yeah. >> Yeah. But yeah, he was great. And you.

know, he wasn't he was sick when we were. shooting that season and when our first. day we were we had to walk back and. forth a lot somewhere, I don't know. And. he had to sit down. He said, "I don't. know if I can do this." M. >> and Michael Patrick King, you know, who. know knew him and from college, that was. his college acting teacher. And um and. he came over and he and he just said, "You can do it. Of course you can do. it." And I said, "Yeah, and whatever you.

need." And. he got as over the course of shooting, he got better and better and better. >> And his doctors said, "What are you. doing? Cuz everything's good. like the disease is not progressing. >> Yeah. >> We don't What are you doing? So I don't. It's that stuff. I I love hearing. stories about that. >> Yeah. >> Happening which. >> cuz we don't understand it but it makes.

100%. >> we believe it. I I believe there have. been times where I haven't felt well and. then I've gone out and done a show for a. really big audience, you know, at a. theater or something and I. I I feel great afterwards. And you. think, okay, this is adrenaline, but. it's also community. I got my people. around me. Um I'm getting all this. positivity, >> right? you're getting this bath that is.

uh very um you know life-saving, >> right? >> It's it's so I totally understand that. >> Yeah. I I right I mean we look if CO. taught us anything well it taught us a. lot of things but to me one of them was. boy our immune systems. are everyone's is different and wow the. it seems like what what activates it and. what you know what helps it along and. how much of wellness is immune system.

and then other things and we don't know. to me it just meant oh. >> that's right we don't know most. everything about [laughter] our bodies. and our universe and every we don't know. a lot. >> Well, I get most of it, but. >> Okay. >> I'm sorry. I just do. >> You understand that stuff? >> Yeah, I do. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Can you explain anything. about the. >> I don't think you would understand. So, [laughter]. >> okay. I'm sorry, but do you know what I. mean? It's just the level. >> Do I know what you mean?

>> Yeah. I'm just thinking on like I'm. thinking in like the ninth dimension, you know? So, there's only so much I can. do for you people. >> That's true. You know what's. interesting? >> That's true. >> I just I'm sorry. I'm a little bit. honest and then oh it's all this. >> By the way, I mean I think Conan is so. smart that he could explain physics. >> No, not physics. Physics I don't. understand. >> You [laughter] don't? >> No, I really don't. >> Do you ever take physics? >> No. I mean I did in like high school, but I I you know. >> when they start saying, "Oh, time is a.

>> relative.". >> Well, I of course I understand that. Um, I'm the one who explained it to. Einstein. >> Oh, okay. >> But no, there's so much I don't. understand. Uh, that. >> I believed that. Oh, okay. That was you. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Went back in time and he was like, "Who. is this man? What are you doing in my. patent office? >> Hey, E= MC², buddy." And grow out a. mustache. >> And then I future. Yeah. >> That was Conan, you guys. Yeah, your. accent was spot on.

>> Well, that was Einstein. Do it again. Can I hear it again? I'm trying to work. in the patent office. >> There we go. Okay. >> And I think Oh, who's this Irish lady? [laughter]. >> I'm a dude, man. >> You look like Jane Lynch. Shut up. [laughter]. >> Square. >> Um, >> time is relative. >> Yeah, >> he [laughter] just tried to explain it. to you. >> Um, >> I don't even know. So, here's [laughter]. an interesting thing about you is that. you've experienced this.

real uh this real victory in this space. with the comeback, but you also got to. experience that in Oh, >> no. NO. [laughter]. >> BUT IF THAT'S WHERE YOU were going, that. would be great. >> Yes. Yes. You I don't know. I don't know. what you were doing before the. [laughter] comeback. It just didn't pop. whatever it was. No, my point being that. you with friends, you could arguably say. you got to be in the last giant communal.

TV. >> Yeah. >> You know, mega hit that no one at the. time realized this is maybe the last of. these where everyone's going to watch. this show and it's a cultural cultural. touchstone and um this is where we all. are. watching these people go through. this this life that was such a. phenomenon. >> Yeah. >> And very few people get to be in the.

nose cone of that rocket. and you've had. both these both very different. experiences, but the success you're. having now is is the success of this new. way of experiencing TV as opposed to the. massive, >> you know, uh it's Cheers level, happy. days, massive uh and I'm just curious. like you've experienced them both and I. don't think a lot of people have.

>> That's got to be an unusual Yeah. to. have both of those. Okay, [laughter]. >> I wasn't that's all you don't need to. comment. like a cult hit because that's what I. feel like. >> But also it's a different it's a very um. it's it's it's a very it's a great piece. of work that is. uh that fits this new medium really well. in my opinion. >> which is um trying to understand. [laughter].

>> cuz what do you mean times relative? Yeah. All right. Yeah. >> See, a guy's on a train and he's passing. a station. >> Now, what if someone on the station. throws an orange? >> See, that's what I'm hearing. simultaneously while you're talking. about the other thing cuz time folds. >> Cuz you're existing. Yeah. You're on. both of the time, right? Okay. 1986. And. hi, I'm Lisa. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, I'm also at that point in. my life now, too. I'm traveling. I'm. existing on this plane.

>> in 2026, but I'm also right now in uh. 1986 and I'm buying tons of Lisa Kudro. stock [laughter]. >> and now I'm rich. Um, [laughter]. >> it was exciting when I went public. >> Yeah, I MADE A KILLING. [laughter]. >> YOU KNOW, SOME of you were started. buying Lisa when friends hit the air, but not me. [laughter]. I was there in the olden days when we. were in a weird basement doing improv,

>> right, >> for absolutely nobody. I think that one. night we had one person in the It was a. rat, but they they applauded and they. had good [laughter]. >> they had good suggestions, >> but they they were the same suggestions. [laughter]. >> Virulent disease rat. You said that. already. >> You were so mad at me. It felt like. there were days we were doing this. You. were just looking like why are we doing. this? Like why what did you do?

>> We were in a performing in a theater. that was at the bottom of the. Scientology center and no one would come. in and there was one person I think one. night there was one or two people in. >> wow. >> a theater that and we did our show. anyway. We were like we're going to the. real pros perform even when there's one. or two people. Let's go. And then. afterwards I was just embittered. Oh. [laughter] yeah, you were rough. >> And she was my, you know, so honest. Elise was always super honest with me. And I just.

>> she would when I would be down or if. someone was doing performances that were. hacky, I would put my head in my hands. like this. And she'd say, "They can see. you. >> You're being a dick." And I'm like, "Oh, [laughter] right. You're right. You're. right. I forgot. >> that's subtle compared to what you were. doing. >> You know what you were doing. What were. you? Show them what you were actually. >> I don't know. I can't Oh, pulling my. hair out. Yeah. >> You know that you know that bit that. funny bit [laughter] when he's. >> like in so much pain and he's pulling. his hair out.

>> and [laughter]. it's a little more than just this. >> What. >> I'm saying? I. >> I'm saying you're A TERRIBLE PERSON. [laughter] BASICALLY. I guess. Wow. That's not nice. Yeah. That's not a nice. thing for you. wore my heart on my. sleeve. >> I know. >> When it came to comedy. >> Yeah. >> And I That was not always a good thing. And I needed to just be. >> felt like it's good. >> You just need to put a sheet over me. [laughter]. >> You just need to put a sheet over me. When someone went up to do a nerd.

character and had tape around the middle. of their glasses was going, I've been working on a new formula and I. like computers. [laughter]. And Lisa just needed to have You need to. have a tarp that they put over a. barbecue outdoors. You just need to have. one that you put over me. so that they. couldn't see. >> No, it was that I wanted to die. >> Wait, who's going Oh, you're going up. Okay. [laughter]. >> Give me a second. >> Conan, we're going to put the tarp on. now. Then you just see a quivering tarp. with steam coming off of it.

>> Fists coming out of. >> Okay, listen. What is this? Beat up. Conan day. Sona's not going to stand for. that. >> Yeah, I am. I am. >> Oh, okay. You're going to encourage it. >> No, I am. I'm going to encourage you. I'm going to laugh and I'm going to. enjoy it. >> Yeah. But to me, it's not beating up on. you. It's just you are had a highly. attuned. [clears throat]. >> antenna for [laughter]. subpar comedy. And that's the whole. thing about classes. Everyone's learning. >> what their clown is. Don't you hate that.

expression? Find your clown. >> I mean, yeah. Anyway, that's Groundling. think teachers like, you know, you just. got to find your clown. And I get really. mad. The one thing I still can't do to. this day is um improv warm-up exercises. And there have been. >> I didn't like them back in the 80s. And. uh I just wanted to go out there and do. the thing and I didn't want to play. these games backstage to have us all get. in the mood or something. >> Me neither. Not in the mood. >> And then um Yeah. And it's these games.

like I look at you and go and you look. at me and go and [laughter] bloop. And. you're always in an alley somewhere in. Hollywood. And uh it smells like urine. and you're going [laughter]. and I would say, "Can we just not do. this? I will pay you. I will pay you if. we don't have to do this." And be like, "You have to do it, man. It's really. good. We're going to. >> We had to do that recently.". >> We did. We years ago. >> We did a We did a show for charity and. backstage again in an alley in Culver.

City, I think, and someone said, "Okay, everybody, let's warm up. Let's get. Let's play Skittley Daddy." I know. >> What is that really? >> I don't know what it is. I didn't know. No, I didn't know what the thing was. They were even telling. >> I didn't know either. And I said, >> but it was an involved thing. But first, you had to like scoop up like just like. no. >> And I was begging. I was saying, "Can I. just not do this?". >> Yeah. Why did you do it? >> No. I think we did it a little bit and.

then just went, "All right." Okay. >> Moving on. >> Is it time? I think it's time. I think I. don't know that [laughter] we have time. for this. I made the sound of a siren. I. said, "Oh, I think someone. I think there someone got hurt. somewhere. We better go inside." Oh, the. cops are coming. We better clear out. >> Is that a gunshot? >> Yeah. [laughter] Kapow. That's not a gun, Conan. That's a. terrible gun. Now get back to your. bloop. I said blipped. You got to say, [laughter]. >> Anyway, that's just me. I wasn't built.

for that. >> No, I didn't like it either. Yeah, >> I almost quit because I didn't like what. I saw in the first improv class where. it's like throw a spaceball and they're. just and. >> and be angry and they're just like gr I. couldn't [laughter] I just went that's. what I have to do. Maybe I'm not this. isn't for You know what's interesting? The I've always thought, >> and this is something that's true of. legitimate acting, which is not what I. do, but the the line between.

um it being great and you absolutely. humiliating yourself is so razor thin. And you know, a lot of. uh acting classes kind of you need to. just put that stuff all aside and. strip yourself of all your and I I think. uh of of your defenses and then so or. roll around on the floor or pretend. you're a jelly bean or all that kind of.

stuff. And I thought, yeah, I did you go. like good jelly bean or. >> that was [laughter] that was you being a. jelly bean. Yeah. I was like, "Yeah, yum, yum." I love jelly beans. Jelly. Yeah. Um, >> always a good. >> But I don't know. I always thought, "Oh, no. All I am. >> is if I weigh, you know, 90 lbs, 185 of it are defense mechanisms, [laughter]. >> and then some hair and maybe some teeth.

So, I can't I'm not going to get rid of. all that stuff. I can't do it. I mean, I. have my hats off to people that can do. it. I have a lot of respect for. >> But you still use so much improv. You. learned something. No, both of you did. learn a lot. I'm guessing unless you. already were just natural improvisers. >> I think both of us brought. >> some of our own way we think to it. And. then yes, you learn great. >> tools rules by listening, listening, talking, responding, and then just and. committing. >> And that was the first thing I learned.

watching him. He was really committed to. throwing a ball [laughter] and you. didn't look No, no, no. But there was no. ball. He was pretending there was a ball. and it looked like he was throwing a. ball and he looked like a little angry. but not over the top. >> No, you did it. And that's what acting. is, which is why you can act. I let you. say all that, you know, cuz I felt like. you really wanted to, but [laughter] um. >> No, you can you can act. You can act. because you know how to listen and.

respond. Isn't that all it is? >> I guess. I don't know what it is. >> I don't either. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Whatever you're doing, keep doing it. >> All right. >> That's what I'll tell you. >> Oh. >> Um, >> you [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. I don't know. I mean, maybe you have questions for Lisa cuz. you know, I know Lisa so well. >> done. >> Yeah. But I I know Lisa so well that. some these are interesting interviews. for me always because sometimes I think. well we just talked about that at.

dinner, right? >> So then I think, oh, I want to make sure. that the the people listening get some. stuff that isn't just me because I know. Lisa so well, you know. Does that make. sense? >> Yeah, I totally get it. I think that I. do have a lot of questions about you. guys starting off together in terms of. are you both kind of the same people as. you were back then? You think you must. are. >> I think I'm very much the same. I will. tell you we both had not great cars.

>> So you have better cars now. [laughter]. >> That was No, I'm just talking about like. we got to start somewhere that people. can understand. I. >> was my car. You had a Datson Z. Yeah. And it was fun. >> 280Z. >> You had a 280Z. >> My dad's That's a nice. >> No, it was a fine car. I'm just saying. it was um. >> It was a It's a great It was a great. >> Wasn't always clean sports car. And then. could get a little. >> Oh, no. My cars were never clean and I.

smoked so. You did what? I don't know. I [laughter]. can't. Of course I did. For 20 years. Oh. my god. Okay. Pack a day. No, Lisa. >> Well, what I did it just part-time. poorly. [laughter]. >> And I used to say, you could do better. at smoking. >> You could I would get mad. You'd be. smoking but not enough. [laughter] And. I'd BE LIKE, COME ON. >> YOU COULD DO BETTER IN OR OUT. >> ARE YOU IN OR YOU OUT? >> IN OR OUT?

>> YOU GOT TO BE A THREE-PACK A DAY SMOKER, LISA. >> Did you ever smoke? >> No. My god. If I No. If I smoked, I. would look. >> I was very aware that if I smoked, I. would look like a kid who got into a. pack of cigarettes [laughter]. >> and like the teacher came by and went, "Put those down, Auggie.". >> I'm picturing you next to Lisa though. with those candy cigarettes. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Puffing little. powdered sugar. >> Oh, and I started smoking this summer. I. was at Harvard. >> Oh, that's you. We were there at the. same time cuz you went you were there in. the summer. >> We were there at the same time. >> and I used to work on the lampoon in the.

summers there. So, I never missed a. summer there. And that's when I started. smoking cuz those bugs, those. flying water bugs, as big as your fist. As big as your fist. >> What does that have to do with you. needing to smoke? [laughter] Who says. there's too many bugs? I need to smoke. Why? >> Cuz it terrified me. It stressed me out. so much. And I didn't tell you the part. that made it so bad. As I'm sleeping and. I hear a jet has flown into my room. [laughter]. >> Oh god.

>> Okay. cuz it's these old crappy. buildings next to the river and there's. no screens on them but there's no air. conditioning because you know it's the. east coast [laughter]. >> and well that's how it felt coast you. east coast in the 80s [laughter] um. and it was an old an old charming dorm. building and so the windows were open. >> and I went what like something. mechanical flew into the room. It was.

the loudest. >> And there was a giant water flying. cockroach water bug this big. >> Don't you looking like I don't know what. she's talking about. >> No, no, time I was there. I didn't see a. bug. >> No, there's there can be some big bugs, but it never made me think I need a. smoke. >> Okay. And then it was on my and it was. just like on my wall. So now it's this. big on my wall and I went okay. And I. grabbed my shoe. dumbass throwing a. tennis shoe. That's way too slow. Y.

>> as I throw it, it's. >> flying toward my head and and then I. couldn't sleep and you know there were. cigarettes somewhere and I just started. smoking and it calmed me down cuz. nicotine is wonderful. >> Oh, >> it's really good. It's good stuff. >> Never had it. >> Yeah. And then another one flew in and. they became pets. [laughter]. >> There was no getting them out and there. was no choice. >> You got them little toys. >> [laughter]. >> figured out their favorite.

>> You had them for 14 years. >> You know what Robert said to me once? He. looked at me when I was being insane. about something and tightly wound and he. said, "You're the only person I know who. would be healthier if he smoked.". >> Oh, >> that smoking and the breathing and the. nicotine. >> you it would extend your he said Conan. it would extend your life. It's bad for. everyone else, but you and I was some I. think about that sometimes because. Robert's been right about a lot of.

things. >> And now I think at my age if I started. now [laughter] I'm like come on, how. much damage could I do? >> No, but this has nicotine in it. So. >> Oh, nicotine gum. >> Yeah. Look, I didn't even take one, but. I have it. >> This is turning into an ad for starting. to [laughter] smoke, which I don't want. it to be, although I'm a little. intrigued. [laughter]. Wait, but I do want to say something cuz. you said, "Are you different?" And. here's You are a little different. >> How? >> I mean, we should be, shouldn't we?

Yeah. Don't you think? >> Sure. >> Okay. But you had told like when we met. >> different from when I was in 1986. >> Well, yeah. I mean, I should hope so. I. don't think you're as tightly wound. >> No, I'm not. >> Okay, good. He was worse. He was worse. than the Okay. [laughter]. >> Time working for you, you have been. gotten a lot more chill. >> Yeah. Yeah, I see that too. But he told. me that he would be so tightly wound. like something I can't I either I don't. remember or I just don't want to say. Um.

No, cuz you were telling me something. happened at college and it upset you and. you sat and you quietly just like took a. part a chair. >> Yeah. >> Really? >> Just like quietly. Yeah. >> Patiently. >> Yeah. >> With rage. Wow. >> Yeah. Something in the comedy realm. hadn't gone my way. And I went back to. my room and there was a very sturdy. wooden chair that they have at Harvard. that has like the Harvard insignia on.

it. And I quietly was pulling out all of. the pieces of the chair. >> Oh boy. >> Yeah. I had that in me. I have there's a. there's a guy in here um who uh scares. me. But um. >> is that scary? Cuz maybe this is scary. You told me that story and I went, "Yeah. [laughter]. Right. Yeah. You can't actually. in front of. >> No. No. I would never turn that on. anyone. The person I beat up on mostly.

is me. >> and writers who need a physical beating. every now and then. >> Sure. Well, >> yeah. [laughter]. >> No, I Yeah, >> but I mean uh I we of course we both. change. I think having kids changes you, too. >> Yeah. Like I love and I said this. recently on someone else's podcast, but. when. the. so much of being young is being. narcissistic. >> So it's necessary. You kind of have to.

be a narcissist when you're young and. it's got to be all about you and your. problems have to be the biggest thing in. the world because you are going through. life and it's the stakes are big. And. then once. uh my daughter showed up and then later. my son, I remember instantly knowing, "Oh yeah, I don't count anymore. It I'm. not. I get it." And and liking it. Like it's. about them.

>> Yeah. >> I've got to be here for them. [sighs]. >> And uh just even thinking about it, I'm. >> much calmer. >> Yeah. >> So I Yeah. needed to be having kids when. I was 15. [laughter]. >> Oh, that's what you That's what you were. built for. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. All of us. >> All right. Kids, settle down. [laughter]. Dad, why do you have acne? Shut up. I got to go to high school now. Well, not yet, BUT NEXT YEAR. [laughter]. >> YOU guys settle down.

I'm going to go watch Star Trek reruns. [laughter]. >> Um, well, I am I think we're all. thrilled anytime you drop in. >> Thanks. Uh, and um so excited for the. new season of the comeback, which is a. jewel. >> It's just so beautifully made and really. looking forward to it. >> And I love you. You're one of my. favorite people in the history of the. world. So. >> Oh, come on. >> Seriously. >> Yeah, you are. Mine, too. >> You just did a me, too. Yeah. Uh,

>> okay. >> I mean, come on. >> I think you gushed enough. Thank you for your Thank you. [laughter]. >> mail it. Oh. >> Here comes A BIRD WITH IT. [laughter]. >> IF YOU'D give me your address, I would. >> Yay. Let's play. [laughter]. Got to warm up for improv. >> Okay. >> Lisa Kudro. Peace out. Tupac.

Okay, I'm going to break into this. programming now with uh urgent urgent. news update. >> David Hopping just saw the Backstreet. Boys [laughter]. at the Sphere. >> and whatever you're doing, if you're. driving right now, I want you to pull. over to the side of the road. Uh if. you're listening cooking uh dinner, dinner uh I mean just order order out. >> Um because this is just too important.

Yeah. >> David, what was this experience like? Backstreet Boys, the sphere. paint the. picture because America wants to know. >> Okay. Hi, America. Um, it was on. >> America just hung up. [laughter]. >> It's just one person named America. >> Yeah, it's America Ferrara. She does not. want to hear this story. >> Um, it was on my birthday. We drove to. Vegas. Got there with no traffic. We got. there under four hours, which. >> that's nice. >> A win. >> People love that part of the story. Um, and then. >> whenever you hear about seeing an iconic.

band at the sphere, >> you said paint the picture. >> People's favorite story is about the. commute. >> Okay. I love that you consider the. Backstreet Boys iconic. This is nice. >> Please. You didn't see my uh I have put. little quotes around it. Okay. >> No, they come on. They're a big deal. >> I love the Backstreet Boys. >> I'm not going to on the Backstreet. Boys. >> I'm not going to I just didn't I didn't. know they were your cup of tea. >> I'm just saying this is a huge band. Whether or not I know all their songs, I. know a few of them. Let's get to the. place. Um, [laughter] do it before it's.

not done doing, >> which which goes, >> yeah, [laughter] do it before it's not. done. Hey, hey, do it. Um, she's All. That and a corn sandwich. Uh, [laughter]. they have some great songs that are part. of the American experience. >> Yeah. >> Uh, but anyway, um, just get to the good. part. >> We got to sphere. >> Then we stopped and we got canned. peaches. [laughter]. >> Sorry. Go ahead. >> I got a drink and a souvenir cup. It has. all their faces on it. >> Then we walked we had standing on the. floor. So, have you been to the sphere?

>> I haven't been to the sphere. >> cuz like Son and I get excited about. like the little things in life. >> Walking into this seeing the huge screen. was everything. And then everyone stuck. to you. You were supposed to wear all. white to the concert. >> Why? >> Everyone cuz it's like their Millennium. album cover. They're all wearing white. Oh, I thought they were all saving. themselves for marriage, [laughter]. >> which I admire. >> Like a virginal thing. >> They're virginal. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They're all like pushing 60. They're.

like, "When the time comes, I want it to. be special." [laughter]. >> And now for my next hit, >> got to get going to the place where we. go. [laughter]. >> Yeah, that's a big one. Um, everyone. stuck to the theme though. Everyone wore. white. >> That's great. >> And then they came out and I've never. seen anything like this. like the it was. like space themed. So there's like a. spaceship above you and it's like. everyone's like looking up. I missed. them even coming out on the stage. because the visuals were just so cool. >> So I'm getting the sense they didn't. need to be there. >> They did. Their [laughter] music was.

everything. >> Well, they could play the music and then. you could look at your spaceships and. then you know whatever. They could have. anybody get up there in a white. >> No, they needed to be there. Eduardo's. going soon. >> Are you going to the Backstreet Boys? >> No, no, no. I'm going to catch uh No. doubt. >> Okay. Cool. Yeah. Taking my wife and my. niece. Yeah. My daughter. Yeah. [laughter]. >> I don't know if they've ever had a. comedy show though. You should try to be. like the first person. >> You know how I prefer to watch No Doubt? >> When they premiere on my show in New.

York. >> Oh, what a flex. >> In 1993. >> What a flex. >> Mike Trip. [laughter]. >> Uh, so the sphere. >> Yeah. >> I want to go to Here's what I want to. do. I want to go to the sphere when. they're featuring something that in no. way is enhanced or benefited by the. sphere. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I. want to go when all they're doing is. someone's playing a banjo and they're. rebroadcasting. Walter Kronite's last episode [laughter]. of the news and it's just a regular news.

program where at the end he's and they. just run that a couple of times and. someone [laughter] plays a banjo and. it's all around you on the sphere. No. special effects. It's just Walter. Kankite saying, [laughter] "It's been an. honor and a pleasure and uh you know, take care and uh be well. Good night.". You know, >> or something that doesn't even use the. screen at all. It's like two people. having a guest lecture on like AI and. they're not even talking. No, no, you. use the screen cuz at one point the two. people giving a lecture mention um I'll.

be talking about this at a separate. conference which is on March 3rd and. just the date [laughter] March 3rd comes. up. >> in tiny font. >> in small font on one part of the sphere. Those are the things I want to go see at. the sphere. I want [laughter] my dream. is to misuse the sphere. Let me be very. clear. I will go and do something at the. sphere that completely. misuses that amazing technology. >> PowerPoint presentation on like a time. share in Vegas. Yeah.

>> And then you're just like holding. >> it's just one little part. [laughter]. It's one little square that could. >> You can even see it. >> People No, [laughter] here's the thing. You can kind of see it. That's important. to me. You can kind of see it. And I go. on and on. >> Oh my god. >> Uh yeah, that's how I want to use the. sphere. But anyway, so you had a good. time. >> I had a great time. It was. Yeah. And. then at the end, I was actually texting. Sona after because it's just a bunch of. drunk Backstreet Boys fans all walking. in some hallways singing their songs. together.

>> Mostly some of the Backstreet Boys are. in with them. [laughter]. [laughter]. >> Hey, wait a minute. Isn't that Jub Jub? What's What are their names? >> Uh, well, there's Nick. There's AJ. >> There's Nick. >> There's Nick. >> I don't know. Is there a Nick? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I want to just make that up. >> Is everyone okay? Everyone's healthy. >> Everyone's healthy. They're all there. >> Okay. >> It's like the um New Kids on the Block. also are in Vegas. They're all there, aren't they? >> Oh, I know. They are there. I'm trying. to pick a date to go see them. >> You need to do those guys ever join.

forces, you know, like or is it like. Marvel and DC where that's not allowed? >> No, they they've done they've toured. together before. >> Oh, they all get together. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I just thought I had this cool idea. >> Oh, no. And can they then join up with another. group like you know Manudo or is can. [laughter] can you ever get another. group that joins them? So those two. united Backstreet Boys and New Kids on. the Block. But then who else could join. them? >> We need an In Sync reunion. >> Oh, >> In Sync. I mean it could be 98 Degrees.

It could be O Town. >> What if you got them all together? I. mean all together. And then um didn't. let them perform. [laughter]. >> Wait, what do they do? up there giving. the PowerPoint presentation. presentation. >> No, you [laughter]. you get them all together backstage and. then you lock the door. >> and then I go out and I show a I show a. little time share uh lecture. It's. projected on one small part and they. have to watch it and they can't get out.

[laughter] They can't get out. It's. >> the ultimate bait and switch. I love it. >> You'll be murdered. Hey, a lot of people have tried. A lot. of people have tried. Old women are. taking a swing at me every day. [laughter]. Uh, all right. There's my pitch. Sphere, call me. Peace out, Tupac.