Kumail Nanjiani (FULL EPISODE) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

Hi, my name is Kaml Nangani and I feel. Twitter pated about being Conan. O'Brien's [laughter] friend. Hello and welcome to Conan O'Brien needs. a friend. I am sitting here with. Sonomessian Matt Gorley. Hi. >> What's that? >> I said hello. I Yeah, >> you you brought up an issue. >> You doodled as this cool looking guy. >> I dood this guy. He's wearing uh I don't. know why I doodled him, but he's he's.

wearing uh farmers overalls. I don't. know that he has a shirt on. He's got a. big mustache. I don't know why I drew. this guy. I don't know who this guy is. >> You guys both love the 70s so much, which I think is very like mustache. heavy. And I'm just curious why you guys. have never like you've never grown a. mustache. >> I've had a mustache before. >> Just a mustache. >> Just a mustache. Not for long. It in. theory I really want to do it, but in. practice I in my mind Sam Elliott. Yeah. >> In the mirror. Ned Flanders. [laughter].

>> So, you come out as Ned Flanders. >> I think so. >> I think that my mustache it doesn't. Well, first of all, I've had a beard and. accompanying mustache, but a mustache. alone. I would look sort of like Michael Kaine. in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, you know? Like, >> but that's not a horrible look. >> No, no, no. What I'm saying is it's it's. Michael Kaine. So he can do anything. because he's Michael Kaine. I just it.

it's it's would be kind of thin and I. think I would come across as evil. I. think my true evil would and pervy would. come out. And I just did. >> something. I did a shoot where they put. a small mustache on me and so I can show. it to you. And you know what? It doesn't. I look like a creep. Okay. >> I think it's just perve. But if you can. indulge me for a second, which I know. you can. Let me see if I have. >> Well, I'm just gonna say my dad has. always had a mustache and he's the.

coolest guy I know. So, I just I'm If I. was a guy, I feel like I'd have a. mustache. >> Hey, if I had your dad's mustache, then. fine. >> Yeah. >> And I've tried to imitate your dad's. mustache many times. >> No, you don't. You don't. Taking a. dinner napkin and putting it above your. mouth is not is not. >> How many times have I sent you pictures. I've taken of me on a plane or just me. out in the world where I put a very. large white dinner napkin under my nose. and say, "Look, it's your dad.". >> Too many times actually. I think there's.

a decent amount of times and then. there's too many times. But um I think. you're just obsessed with his mustache. Oh, we're both We're all on our phones. >> Well, I find something here weird. though. >> Oh, here we go. Here we go. >> This Yeah, >> I was me. Hold on. Hold on. >> Look. >> That's not bad. >> I don't know. That looks cool to me. That's like This looks cool to you. >> I want to be friends with that guy. >> Hello. >> I want to be friends with that. You have. to do it that way, though. >> Look at this. Look at this guy.

>> This guy's awful. What an awful guy. [laughter]. I'm not kidding. I search my photos for. me with a mustache cuz you can do like. AI search of YOUR PHOTOS NOW. >> [laughter]. >> WHAT WAS HIS NAME AGAIN? >> THAT'S JEAN. That's right. >> I'm sorry. This guy is constantly being. arrested. This guy is being. >> I don't know. >> Look at that. He's being arrested. He's. being [laughter]. >> Right. That's a terrible guy. I don't. want to be that guy. >> I don't know. I Well, Movember's coming. up. Maybe you guys should grow. mustaches. >> And his eyes are dead. The mustache.

takes the life out of my eyes. >> But you guys need bushy big Sam Elliot. style mustaches. Can't you make that. happen? Like figure it out. I don't. know. Is there like a merkin for faces? >> Yeah, it's called a fake. >> a fake mustache. Yeah, I've got seven of. those in my wallet for other reasons you. don't need to know. [laughter]. >> I have a picture of me with a mustache. Just. >> Oh, I got plenty of those in my car. [laughter]. >> I'm responsible for a series of unsolved. crimes. [laughter].

>> I don't know. Yeah. It'. >> be cool if you guys just You're You're. so into the 70s and Tom Cull guys. >> I'm into my dad if I had a mustache cuz. in the 70s he had a. >> Oh, wow. Look at that guy. >> See? >> Yeah. >> Oh, not Who was the Who's the guy? >> Who? >> He's He died. The mustache. >> Oh, the guy that died. Yes. The guy with. the mustache that died. The mustache. >> No, I know what you're talking about. What do you mean? >> The guy who the mustache. >> What are you talking about? >> There's a mustache guy who died. >> The really cool guy with the mustache.

>> Sam Elliot's still alive. Sam Elliot. The. >> Roosevelt had a mustache. The Roosevelt. had a mustache and he's dead. >> He's a die. He He died. He's a cool guy. B Reynolds. >> Oh, well, he died. Yeah. Like years ago. >> You act like the mustache kill. He had. mustache cancer. [laughter]. >> Sir, there's nothing we can do. Well, you could shave it. I don't want to. shave it. [laughter]. >> Oh, well then you're going to die. Well, I guess my time is up. If there was only. a way. [laughter]. >> Mustache. >> You have mustache cancer.

>> [laughter]. >> We We don't think we can operate. But. what if I just shaved? Well, that would. save your life, but we don't recommend. it. [laughter]. Why not? Cuz it looks cool. What a weird thing to say. >> Oh my god. >> All right. My guest today is an actor, writer, and comedian who starred in the. hit HBO series Silicon Valley. He now. has a new standup special on Hulu called. Kuml Nani Night Thoughts. I am I'm. delighted with this fellow. >> He'd be cool with mustache. Yeah. >> Oh god, he's cool with anything in my.

opinion. Kuml Nani, welcome. [music]. >> Twitter what? >> Twitter ped. You know that word? >> No, I don't. >> It means like obsession, but not dark. obsession. >> Oh, >> but it could turn dark. >> It could turn very dark. >> Twitter pated is like when you're like. you've done three dates and you're like, I think this is something, you know. >> I see. >> This is that. >> Well, you and I have done more than a. few dates. I've been a fan of yours for. a very long time and.

you were so kind to me. I'm going to. thank you on mic when I got this. wonderful Mark Twain award in Washington. and these amazing comedians came out. >> which is a big deal to get to No one. goes to Washington DC. >> by accident. You you have to go there. with great intention. you guys all. showed up and you came and it was a s I. didn't I was not in charge. It's kind of. like a surprise party. They don't tell.

you who's coming. They don't tell you. All I know is I'm going to speak at the. end. So, I thought about that, but I. didn't think about I mean, who's going. to come to this? And I very I think uh. correctly thought I wouldn't go to this. if I didn't have to. And all of you, so. many of you turned out uh and you were. hilarious. You did a TED talk about me. and it was fanfuckingtastic. and it meant so much to me. Thank you. for being there and you put so much.

thought into it and you're such a smart. comic. I loved it. I loved it. >> Thank you. I It means so much to me. I. was going to thank you for having me, but I guess I should thank your team for. having me there. [laughter]. >> Yeah, >> it really was against you coming. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I had you on a You know what? I had a. list of people I don't want to see. >> They got a hold of that list and. misunderstood. >> [laughter]. >> I don't want Letterman. I don't want. Adam Sandler. >> No. Will Ferrell. >> It really meant so much to me to be. there. It really, really did because. I've told you I do comedy because of.

you. >> Oh my god. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's so funny to me. By the way, I. was noting this cuz I was working and I. just got done and I've been catching up. on episodes of this show. Your whole. thing. You're so like with them to. calling yourself a comedy legend and. stuff and then when someone pays you a. compliment, you cannot handle. it. totally crumble. You cannot change. the subject quickly. >> No, he can only brag downward. [laughter]. >> Exactly. >> You called yourself Beethoven. You. called yourself Michelangelo. >> And then I'm like, "Hey, Conan, you're. like a true legend in comedy.".

[laughter]. >> Look, why is he turning red? >> You are. I mean, it truly meant so much. to me because I genuinely do comedy. because of you. And you know, the fact. that all these people were there, you. know, uh, Coar, all the people who. turned out, Letterman, >> Sarah Silverman, >> Yeah. Will Forte, Will Ferrell, everybody's there. >> It's a testament to how people see you. And also all the like I went up to I'd. never met Brian. >> McCann. >> and I didn't really meet him that night. I just went up to him and said, "I've.

had I've I've got bulletproof legs stuck. in my head for 30 years." [laughter]. >> And he said, >> "Brian McCann, one of our great writers. who was also a performer." And he was. the always disappointing FedEx Pope, which was his title. Yeah. >> And bulletproof legs, which is one of my. bulletproof legs is so funny. I've had. it stuck in my head for 30 years. I said. that to him and he was like, "Thanks. That's really helpful." [laughter]. >> Um, but all those people being there and. it was such a magical night and I truly. for me like that day came at like this. really weird time where I had like other. stuff and I flew in for that day. I flew.

out the next day. I wanted to hang out. longer but I was like I have to be there. for Conan because it's so important to. me. And I kind of to be honest psyched. myself out a little bit being there. Yeah. I like overthought it and got like. way too nervous and I wanted to be able. to like I enjoyed watching everyone. I. wanted to really like it meant too much. to me for me to not be like super. nervous. >> Oh, that's interesting. It didn't show. at all. I mean, it was such a funny idea. you had which was a TED talk about.

>> that is what such great idea. >> What a non-compliment. You had a great. idea. >> Well, [laughter] no. You know, for me, >> the execution, we all know you're not an execution guy. [laughter]. No, no. That's my highest compliment. >> Oh, thank you. It's really fun when you. come up with something where you're. like, "Oh, this is a thing. This is. something. I can't believe nobody.". >> You got to wear the little headset. >> Yeah. I wanted to wear the little. clicker. You had the clicker and the. graphics and uh. >> and it was really nice to get a very. sweet message from Sona and nobody else. right afterwards. [laughter].

>> No, you know, Sona is a message from me. >> No, [laughter] you you sent me a very. nice text well as well. But it meant so. much to me to be there because um you. know what was interesting is so I've. been catching up I don't know how old. this episode is. I'm as you know I'm a. big fan of this podcast. I was listening. to your interview with Andy Samberg and. you guys were both talking about your. love of like silly comedy and how you've. always loved it. >> When I was a kid when I was a little. little kid I liked it. I like Jerry. Lewis and Lauren Hardy and Three. Stooges. But as I started getting like 8.

n 10. >> the last thing I wanted to do was be. stupid. It was very important to me to. feel smart and so I didn't like anything. that was silly. I really rejected it. My. favorite things were like something like. Groundhog Day which was it's a it's an. amazing movie but it's sort of like. there's an intellectual thing to it, you. know, and those were the things I really. like loved and it the thing that made me. fall back in love with silly comedy and. realize that it can be very smart was. your show. >> Oh, okay. and now I look up to it, you.

know, like silly comedy is it's it's so. hard to pull off, but really you made me. fall in love with it. >> Well, thank you. I think one of the. things that I've always thought and I. talked about this on the last uh TBS. show was there is this intersection. between. >> um stupid and smart and it's and it's. this weird. >> like Ghostbusters when they all cross. their beams like whatever there's this. magical thing that happens. >> I do think there's an intersection.

between really smart and really stupid. and I've talked about that. It's been my. obsession of my life. There's this. little golden spot and you can't hit it. all the time. It's hard to get it and. when you do get it, it's like holding on. to a moon beam. It's gone the minute you. get it and you just have to content. yourself with the hunt. But that is my. religion. My religion is every now and. then there's something where there's. this is very silly. Oh, it's so stupid. Wait a minute. I know something smart's.

happening here. There's a flicker of. something smart happening here, but it. it doesn't have it doesn't last. It's. just for a second. >> Yeah. And you can't explain it to. anybody who doesn't get it. And I. didn't, you know, so it was your it was. your comedy and Beus and Buttad around. the [laughter] same time that I was. like, well, really stupid stuff can be. made by obviously very smart people. >> I want to talk about your work. Uh, and. I'm going to edit this out and just make. it all about my work. [laughter]. >> Um, >> just you talking about what it meant for. you to get the Mark Twain Prize. >> Yeah. and how I think you're correct.

that I [laughter]. uh. >> and Conan does all his own editing. >> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He's really good at. it. >> I'm really good at editing. Um I just. watched your standup special, Night. Thoughts, and I really loved it. And one. of the things that you talk about in the. beginning was you started as a stand-up. It's fascinating because it's very. important to you upfront to say, "Look. guys, I know you think I'm an actor. who's now dabbling in standup, but I. started as a stand-up." What's. fascinating to me is I know you enough.

to know that you were petrified of. getting in front of people. Absolutely. terrified of getting in front of people. And yet, I don't know if it was uh. >> you took a loofah to your soul or. something. You decided, I'm going to do. the thing that scares me the most and. get in front of people. >> Yeah. >> That was a huge hurdle for you. >> Yeah. I mean, I was a very, very shy. kid. So, people who know me as a kid, knew me as a kid, are very surprised I. do this. I just I there's really no way. to describe it other than I loved. standup too much to not do it. Like, the.

only thing scarier than doing it was not. doing it. And I remember I have the. sense memory of what it felt like to go. to an open mic and sign up and go up in. front of these people that I didn't. know. And doing it in Chicago. >> was a very intimidating comedy scene, too. like it was kind of like rough and. tumble, you know, and and a lot of great. standups were from from like my class. there. But the only thing that hurt more. than doing it was not doing it. So. that's I really if there was any other. way I could do standup like without. people in front of me, [laughter] which.

I did do actually quite a bit. >> Right. I just thought of a very dark story. about that. Oh my god. >> Let's hear it. You really want to hear. it? >> Sure. Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. So, this is it's it's a. little funny, but it's also sad. Are we. ready for this? >> Yeah. You just described my life. >> Yeah, I [laughter] know. >> Jesus. >> That's my autobiography. A little bit. funny and very sad. [laughter]. >> Okay. Well, let me try and find a. palatable way through this inherently. very sad story. So, my scene in Chicago,

you know, was it was me, Pete Holmes, Hannibal Burus, Kyle Canain, Matt Bron, like all these B Stelling, like all. these really, really, really funny. people. And the funniest one of us was. this guy. His name was Pad Price. And he. was like better looking than us. He was. cooler than us. He was funnier than us. The girls liked him more. He had like a. great job. He was just and he was like a. great guy. And he was just like. naturally very very funny. And he told. this one story once uh very funny story. about he did like this bar show outside.

Chicago and there were just like four. people and two of them were facing away. and his friend was like [laughter] his. friend was like he was telling his. friend this and his friend was like yeah. it's going to be a great story when you. make it like I did a show for four. people and two people were turning away. and Pat was like yeah but what if I. don't make it then that's just what I. did in my 20s [laughter]. And then Pat Price passed away in his. early 30s. We were all in Chicago when.

that happened. He was like 31 or 32. >> And it's weird to think that is what. happened. [laughter]. And I only say that because he would. think that was really funny. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Yeah. Of course he would. Yeah. >> Jesus. >> Not the part I told [laughter] you. >> Not not the part where he not where he. passes away. He wouldn't find that. funny. >> No. No. [laughter] No. He I I I assume. he hated that part. >> Yeah. Um, [laughter] but he was he was I. see you trying to get out of this. He. was a really funny guy and we talk about.

him still all the time and it's just one. of the you know you probably I don't. know if you have this where it happens a. lot where you're like I'm sure you know. this too uh where you're like well the. funniest the most talented person was. that person and now they're like a. school teacher somewhere. You know that. happens all the time. They just didn't. want to do it. >> I mean in my case there wasn't someone. who was funnier than me. I mean I just. have to get the record straight. >> Well there wasn't. I mean there really. wasn't. I mean, I think what's funny is. usually, >> okay, I'll invent a guy, Bill Gooab. >> Gooab, he interrupted me for that. >> and he was great and he was so much.

funnier than me. >> But then one day he ate a big sandwich. made of and he's gone. >> Are you happy now? I'll bring him I'll. bring you back. You really are a comedy. legend. That is an [laughter]. inspiration. >> to everyone who's who's doing comedy my. age. >> No, of course. And that's why moving. away. No, but it's like No, but it's so. funny how it's all the things. It's. funny. It's sad. But of course, we you. come up through life and I have learned. to embrace the fact that I met so many.

people who are just absolutely. incredible and some. don't seem to move up the ladder. Some. aren't alive and some are and it just. never quite happened. And there isn't a. reason. There just isn't. Yeah, it it. is. I mean, we have we're very lucky. that that we're we we get to be here. right now. You know, there's a guy there. was one guy, I won't say his name, who. was like truly like just so brilliant.

Would kill every time, new ideas every. time. He was also an artist. He was a. painter and he was like, I kind of like. doing that more than this. We were just. like, this is the most important thing. in the world to me. And the fact that. you can have that talent and just not. really want to do it, I couldn't ever. relate to that. >> No. Well, you hit the nail on the head. when you said we're we're lucky. And I. was talking earlier about how ideas. having a great like a weight. One of the. thing I noticed in your special is you. have imagery is really important to me.

when someone has an image that really. resonates with me. And in one part of. your special, you're talking about your. cat bagel and how it's impossible. a veterinarian says. >> just give the cat these pills like these. these pills. And you're saying how cuz. I've had this experience recently. We. have three cats and trying to get a cat. to eat a pill is impossible. And you had. this great image which is you're saying. to the vet like how is that going to. happen? I mean um if you put a big plate. of spaghetti in front of a human and it.

has four Tylenol sitting on top of it, they know. And I was like that is such. someone and I could in that moment see. you I mean I could see the image I could. see the image of a big plate of. spaghetti being put in front of some. marinara [laughter] sauce and there. these big Tylenol or relief pills. I'd. be like, "What the fuck?". >> Yeah. What are you doing? >> What is this? >> That's what Bagel did. She would like. eat around the pill. Of course they do. She's like, "This is obviously not. food.". >> They're like us. [laughter] They're. absolutely like us. >> Like us. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I had a long. bet about my.

>> You have a cat, too? >> Yeah. And that's funny. We're just. giving her pills, but she will eat. anything. So, she will not eat around. anything. She eats the pills. >> Really? >> Yeah. She's crazy. >> Our cat Well, since then, can't get away. from this. Our cat did die last month. >> Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a. couple of downers. >> Sorry. Sorry. No, no, no. She was. And. [laughter] to be fair, >> let me try and find. >> that cat was much more talented than. either one. >> She did open mics in front of four. people and was like, "Someday this will. be funny.". >> She just didn't care.

>> She wanted to lick her own ass. [laughter]. >> That's all she wanted. >> Yeah. Exactly. That was. >> licked my ass. >> That was her true passion. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> I mean, I had a beautiful, beautiful. cat. Her butthole was the ugliest thing. I've ever seen. And it was always it's. all it's like all she wanted us to see. She's like, "You like my face, but what. about my butthole?". >> Yeah. >> What [laughter] about like the entirety. of it? Like, "Put your tail down, man. I have some respect.". >> They have no They have no respect. [laughter]. >> They don't. They don't.

>> She'd somehow prop up a magnifying glass. and just walk behind. >> Yeah. It's like, yeah, she has like a. periscope to it somehow. Wherever. [laughter] I'm looking, it's like. whenever I looked in my house, her her. [clears throat] butthole was the thing I. saw first. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Special. Yeah. [music]. The observation I had just watching you. do standup was it's that combination of.

you have great ideas and images. You. have great images and you talked about I. mean I want to not going to give away. your whole special but there was one. specific thing where you're talking. about in the old days when you would. have a a weed dealer and you would you. were talking about the experience of you. know when you went to buy it. >> you need to hang out with them. It was. just a thing where you hang out and you. said like and uh you know they'd want to. you'd have to watch a little bit of the. Matrix with them [laughter] and again.

that. >> true. >> but that image like you picked. [laughter]. >> you picked the perfect movie. >> and I can see you sitting on a shitty. couch. >> uh in the Chicago watching some of the. >> Oh my god. And I remember going to this. guy's house and it was always like too. many guys there [laughter] or not enough. guys there. So, it's like 17 guys with. backwards baseball hats hanging out. watching the Matrix or just you and this. guy watching the Matrix. I don't know. which is worse. [laughter].

>> And it's also this thing where you're. like pretending to be friends with them. and then they bring out the weighing. scale and all pretense that this is a. friendship is gone. Now it's suddenly. very much a business transaction. [laughter]. >> Right. Right. The other thing I talk. about there was this old lady used to. like sell like weed muffins in Chicago. at like certain bars on the weekend and. you'd go and you'd hope she would show. up and it was always a magical mystery. You don't know how much weed she'd put. in. [laughter]. >> So you wouldn't know if it was going to. be like I don't feel anything or like.

I'm going to be in bed for 5 days. [laughter]. I say this in the special thinking about. every uh email I've sent in the last 5. years. you know, [laughter]. >> I don't want to like do things from the. special, but but that it's it's it and. now it's all, you know, very. >> this is exactly how much what you're. going to feel. >> I mean, that's a little bit of what. you're talking about is this concept. that. >> um if you you can have a favorite song. and it's just magical to you. If you. start to really break down what the song.

is and you listen to it a thousand times. and you understand what the changes are. and how they work, some of the magic. starts to rub off and and erode. And I. think you're talking about this thing in. our culture where. [clears throat]. >> once things are legalized and then. labels are put on them and everything's. explained to you very thoroughly, this. is exactly how high you're going to get. And this is these are probably the. images and fantasies you're going to. have. >> Exactly. >> Uh and uh this has all been signed off.

by uh RFK Jr. Uh you know. >> he's approved at all. >> How did he sign How did he sound when he. signed it [laughter] off? >> Well, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SIGN IT. >> He's voiced by Katherine Heppern. We all. know that. >> today. >> you're an old poop. Yeah, exactly. [laughter] Uh, I was telling someone, >> [laughter]. >> uh, I think I was telling Rose Burn. this. Rose Burn, who I. >> By the way, I'm so excited for that. movie. One of the all-time great titles,

by the way. Isn't it amazing? I'm so. excited to to watch it and I want to. hear about like what it was like for you. doing that. >> Oh, okay. Well, I'm in this movie. If I. had legs, I'd kick you. Thank you for. promoting my movie on I'm so [laughter]. excited for it. Uh but uh I say my. movie, it really is that the the the. superstars of this uh project are uh. Mary Bronstein, who's the writer, director, and Rose Burn, who just is uh. a phenomenon. >> She can do anything.

>> She can do anything, and I love her to. death. And I So when I had a chance to. be in these scenes with Rose Burn, I was. like, well, I I have to do this. But she. texted me uh I think yesterday and said, you know, yeah, I'm I'm doing um hot, you know, hot ones. And I thought, what. is it about our culture where in order. to promote her movie, she needs to. ingest 40 lbs of toxins? >> It's self flagagillation. >> Yeah. And and so I said I texted her. back and I said, "If Katherine Hepburn.

were alive today, she'd have to do a web. a web talk show where she sits on a. toilet and eats a chili dog." [laughter]. like, you know, well, I think with. Spencer in the scene. Shut up, Catherine. We'll get to that in a. minute. [laughter]. You haven't pooped yet. YOU GOT A POOP, [screaming] CATHERINE. >> WELL, ALL RIGHT. I'll try. I'm not. feeling it just yet. >> Don't you want a big opening weekend, Catherine? [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> You're not going to go viral. >> All right. I'll eat the chili dog. >> And so, it's it's But that's what would.

happen today. It' be like, "Well, Maron. Brando, what are you wearing?" "Well, I'm in this, you know, thing called uh, you know, on the waterfront." Hold on, Marlin. >> You know, you've got to drink 10 bottles. of this diuretic. >> Whatever you're about to say, he's done. on his own. [laughter]. >> Anyway, so. >> he's doing it his private life. >> better than any of us. You know what you. were saying about how the imagery and. bits and stuff. What I love about doing. what we get to do is you're right, we're.

in a world where there isn't that much. mystery anymore. you know, I know. exactly if I eat this gummy, I know. exactly the level of high I'm going to. be. But I think when you watch movies, TVs, watch great standup jokes, whatever. it is, there is like new stuff in there. And it's it's so hard to get any new. stuff like walking through the world. But then I watch, you know, I just did a. show this week with Largo and at Largo. with Melanie and Nick Croll and watching. their bits, I'm like, that's new. I've. never heard that. I don't know how you.

thought of that. And if you explain it. to me, it wouldn't make any sense. But. it's like magical new things that you. get to experience. >> No, that's what uh that's why I'm always. I love seeing younger talent. I love. hearing what they have to say because I. get surprised. It's just so nice to be. surprised at my age when I can be. surprised. It just tickles me pink, you. know? >> Yeah. >> I know this phrase is I'm tickled pink, but I wasn't pink. >> It tickles you pink. >> It tickles me to the point where I.

become pink. But you buddy, you start. off pink. >> Yeah, I was going to say [laughter] it. tickles you. You. >> It tickles you. >> Tickles me. Me. I'm tickled. I'm tickled. to me. >> So [laughter] nothing Nothing changes. You're just tickled. >> Tickled to me. >> I say I'm tickled Conan when it happens. [laughter]. No, this is just reminding me that. whenever I just got back from uh from. shooting uh an episode of my travel show. in the Philippines, but whenever I've. been any, you know, if I've been in uh. when I was in Ghana, when I go to these.

places, uh Cuba, people come up to me. and they are concerned for my health. [laughter]. >> cuz they I'm I'm not just white, I'm. translucent. >> Yeah. >> And there is a caring like are you okay? [laughter] I'm like, "This is just what. my people look like.". >> Should we be able to see the bones. through [laughter]. >> of other people? >> It conveys a weakness. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, no, they're they're concerned. I. know. I think it's very sweet. You're.

concerned. >> I Every time you travel, I'm. legitimately concerned when you come. back, especially if [laughter] it's like. a hot climate. I'm worried about you. >> I feel like for you, it's always like, you know, when people get the bends when. they come up out of water. I feel like. for you traveling every time on a plane. is that where [laughter] you have to. like. >> You know what they should probably do? They should probably anytime I do a. travel show, the plane before it takes. me back to Los Angeles, it should first. take me to a field in Ireland. >> Yeah. >> And I and I have to be there for a week. >> You're like Superman. You have to like.

get power from your [laughter] from your. land. >> It's definitely not like Superman. >> Sorry. That's the only way of an. inverse. I think he meant an inverse. The only way you like Superman is that. it's [laughter] like everything is. kryptonite to you. >> Yes. I have to get back to my super. weakness, >> including Sun, which gives him power. [laughter] But yeah, hurts you. It's. clouds and rain for you. >> Exactly. Um, you know, I have to ask you. cuz you brought it up at the very. beginning of your special where you walk. out and you say, "Don't let these. muscles uh freak you out. These are just.

decoration. They're decorative. They're. for show." I have to say, very. impressive. Very impressive uh guns. >> Thank you. And I'm glad someone else in. comedy is not afraid to get jacked. >> What do you mean by that? >> What do you mean? What do I mean by. that? >> Are you talking about you? >> I'm jacked, man. Yeah, I'm. jacked. >> No one talks about it. >> It is weird because now people perceive. me differently and they think I'm a. different person and I know I'm not. I'm. exactly the same person I've always. been.

>> I just really like working out a lot now. and all this other stuff that goes with. it. And it was interesting when I was, you know, so I hadn't done standup in. like 6 to 8 years, >> right? >> And during the actor's writer strike a. couple years ago, I was like freak. I. was like, what do I I was like feeling. very creatively frustrated. So I was. like, I'll try standup and I'll see if I. still like it. So I did a bunch of shows. at Largo, the place we love. And Emily. was like, you people experience looking. at you very differently than they used. to. So the way you are on stage has to.

change. Like she was the one who really. was like, you can't be the same. comedian. you have to do something. different because you look very. different, right? >> And so that's something I had to be very. aware of when I was doing stuff. The. last thing I want to do is talk about. >> how I look, but she was like, you kind. of have to address it. >> No, it's good. You you come out, you. mention it right away, and you're very. self-deprecating about it. You're like, these are decorative. I've never been in. a [laughter] fight. >> No, it is funny. There's this. misconception that people if you work. out a lot that then you would be good in. a fight. Nothing is further from the.

truth. The best person in a fight is. just someone who, you know, has that. mentality. And they probably don't, they. don't need to have lifted a single. weight in their life. >> They just have that I'm going to punch. your face in, Matt Gorly. >> Well, you [clears throat] don't have to. >> No, no, this is just I don't know. I'm. just going with this. I'm in a flow. state right now and I just want to. describe beating you to death. >> Oh gosh. Death. >> Yeah, that's Boy, that escalated. quickly. >> Just pounding and pounding away at that. >> Okay. at that in sushi sauce. [laughter].

>> Excuse me. >> Just that face that looks at me like I. dare you to. >> I feel very confident saying that's not. a word. >> It's in [laughter]. I'll smash you. >> But your punches would hurt more, right? If you had to fight, if you had muscles. >> I don't know. Eduardo's with me on this. >> Yeah, I agree with Conan. I think I. think so, too. I think it's you've got. nothing to lose. >> Most It's people that are just they they. fight because they've probably been. punching people since they were 8 years. old. They've got nothing to lose. >> and it's their whole life and they. >> I mean can you imagine bringing yourself.

to punch someone like full force? I. assume none of us can uh just in a. couple minutes ago. [laughter]. >> Yeah, I see Gorly regularly running. through that. >> Yeah, >> Eduardo's shaking. >> I punched somebody full force before. when I was a kid. This was a middle. school. But. >> And did you punch a grown-up? >> No, I've never never punched a grown-up. before. >> So, how old were you? >> He punched a kid when he was an adult. [laughter]. >> Who and why? Exactly. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go. Who? Who and why? >> I was 13. I was wearing glasses. This.

was a classic bully story where somebody. pinned me up against the wall, took my. glasses off. Just tried to play keep. away basically. And my first instinct. when I tried to ask for them back, my. first instinct was just pop them. straight in the face. >> And you did. >> And I did. >> And how did that go down? >> Uh, >> did you get your glasses? >> I got my glasses back and I was never. bothered again by by this guy and his. friend. Oh, >> that's a good lesson. If you. >> punch the people you don't like. >> Yes. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Full for that. Thank you, Edward.

>> No, but but I mean Ed War comes in with. some sage advice worthy of Gandhi. But. no, [laughter] but be great if that. happened to Gandhi when he was in high. school and he just beat the out of. somebody and then. >> not proud of it fully. >> You should be. >> But but first of all, yes, you should be. cuz that guy had it coming. You probably. did him a favor. I don't think he did. that to anybody else. >> Actually, we were friends after that. uh. not not too long after. So yeah, it did. it did change. >> I noticed you're not wearing glasses. anymore. >> I [laughter] learned my lesson. >> And I don't want to bring it back to.

this, but that guy now is dead. >> He was funny though. >> You know what? He was the funniest of. all of us. >> He was the He was just trying to do a. funny routine about glasses [laughter]. and he needed your prop to That's all. He was just borrowing them. >> Um. >> Yeah. I don't know. I I've not I've not. done that and I don't imagine I could do. it. I think And I I mean I I am I look. strong. I can barely move. Like I'm. [laughter] genuinely useless in any. practical situation.

>> Right. Right. I noticed that you had to. be carried in here. [laughter] You came. with five people and they carried you. in. They made like a chair, a basket. chair with their hands. >> Oh my god. >> It's crazy. It's weird. Then they rubbed. all these oils into you. It's strange. >> They were chanting. >> They were chanting. They had huge. ostrich feathers they were cooling. [laughter] you with. >> Um. >> my writer has gone insane. [laughter]. we had to meet all these crazy demands. Um, >> I did find out, you know, I was I was uh.

I was like, I always get like whenever I. do a show or I'm somewhere very specific. like snacks and stuff and and then at. one point someone was like, I don't. remember exactly what it was, but. someone was like, "By the way, that. thing was very hard to find." I'm like, "Well, yeah, why did you do that?". They're like, "It says in your writer. You have to like have this thing." And. clearly my writer got messed up with. someone else's because it's a thing that. I don't have like any connection to. I. don't enjoy one thing I've experienced. which is uh if you have a slight. preference without you doing anything.

that becomes a demand. >> Oh it. >> and so what happens is I'll say well I. like a Coke Zero before I go on cuz it's. the caffeine and it's you know uh and so. you'll just say that and then you'll. show up someplace. This sounds like a. like a humble brag or it's not. It's. just very strange to show up and there's. a refrigerator filled with that thing. and you're thinking this could. >> Yeah, >> this is this is a restaurant should have. this on hand and it would last them a.

month, >> you know, and then it becomes like oh my. god, if Conan shows up and there's not a. Coke Zero there, we're all dead. >> Yeah. [laughter] And. >> it just it just feels odd. It just. became, well, if there's one, I'll take. one if there's one around. But that can. it's a game of telephone. I just saw Jay. Kelly which is an amazing movie with. George Clooney and your buddy Adam. Sandler. Phenomenal movie and it Jay. Kelly is basically a version of George. Clooney. A guy who's been a movie star. his whole life. >> and at one point he he's he's in a. dressing room and there's a cheesecake. and he's like why is there always a.

cheesecake and Adam Sandler says it's in. your writer cuz you like cheesecake. He's like I've never liked cheesecakes. and the entire movie every other scene. there's a close-up of a cheesecake. [laughter]. In almost every frame there's like a. slice of cheesecake somewhere. >> Yeah. Yeah. I guess I'm Clooney. >> That's what I take away from that story. >> Yeah. You mean a lot to all of us. comedians who've uh [laughter]. >> who started out as actors and then were. on er and became. >> um I I want to ask you something about. uh cuz I know this about you that you're.

a cricket fan. I am. >> And it's a I don't think I'm a dumb. person but I've watched cricket many. times when I've seen it. Have you? Well, I've just not live, but when I see it, I'm kind of fascinated by it and I watch. it. I cannot decipher cricket. I just. can't decipher it and I don't understand. it. >> I could watch a game with you like it's. about the length the shortest one is. about the length of a basketball game, >> right? >> And you would know cricket very well by. the end of it. >> And I just I just talked to these uh. rest is history podcasters who are. amazing and they're of uh from the UK.

and from Britain and they love cricket. Yeah, they might as well say, "I love. watching glip glop. I don't know what it. is. I don't quit." Yeah. >> Yeah. Exactly. Here's the big problem. with cricket. When people, American. people try to understand it, they try. and equate it to baseball. >> Yes. I superimpose baseball over it. >> You have to forget baseball. The only. It's a ball and a bat and then people. make fun of me for like it's almost. similar. It's really not. You have to. let go of baseball and that's when. you'll like understand what. >> So, I think I have to unknow baseball.

which I've been watching my whole life. you a big [laughter]. >> just for like a little bit. You don't. have to like eternal sunshine baseball. out of your mind. >> No, it has to completely go. >> That would be like we have amazing. technology. What do you want to forget? I want to forget the [laughter] rules of. baseball. >> I want to forget every association or. memory I have. >> It's $300,000. You sure that's what you. want to spend it on? >> Yes. It's either this or that Gwagon. Mercedes and this is what I want. [laughter]. >> And then I'm explaining it to my.

accountant. Wait, what is this? This is. a lot. I need to forget baseball. Every. association I have watching the Red Sox. from when I was a little boy in Boston, I it has to be removed completely from. my cortex. >> Are you a big baseball fan? >> Well, I am. I grew up baseball was the. biggest sport. >> Was it when I was growing up? Because. the Patriots weren't a thing yet. [snorts] They existed, but they weren't. a thing. Um the Bruins were huge and we. all knew Bobby Y and the Bruins, but I.

didn't sit and watch hockey a lot. It. never I but it's a religion. Baseball is. a religion in Boston. The Red Sox, specifically the Red Sox, >> right? >> So that was the thing that entered my. bloodstream, >> right? So So that that's good because. that's kind of why cricket I really love. it because it makes you feel connected. to Pakistan, you know, like I haven't. been back in a long time. I you know, I've been here more longer than I was. there, but it's really where I'm from. I. am Pakistani but sometimes I can feel.

disconnected from it when when I watch. cricket it makes me feel like I'm back. home. >> How are you perceived in Pakistan? Do. they claim you as a native son? >> I think it's complicated. Um I don't really have a good sense of. it to be honest. I think there are. certain things about me that they're. proud of and then there are certain. things about me that um they they have. complicated feelings about like the fact. that I'm married to a white American. woman. I think that that's seen in a.

complicated way. I think they like that. I'm successful, but um you know, I think. it's I think it's complicated. >> Yeah, I think it I think that makes. sense. And I think it's usually. complicated because I'm 100% Irish. genetically, but if I go back Yeah. [laughter]. >> But if I go back to Ireland, >> I can't claim that I'm one of them. because I'm not. I've been gone. We've. been gone for, you know, 120 years, right? And so, uh,

>> do you feel connected to it culturally? >> You do? >> Well, I feel connected to. that air. I mean, we were joking. earlier, but gen every cell in my body. when I'm in that climate is saying, "Oh, thank God." You know, what were you. doing living near the Mexican border? I'm giddy. [laughter] I'm, you know, I'm. >> That's right. >> I want it to be about 40° or 45°. I want.

it to be raining. >> Yeah. >> And these are not things I actively. want. This is my body telling me you're. supposed to live in a bog, >> right? >> And you're supposed to have died about. 30 years ago. [laughter]. >> That's how I feel about like when I. lived in Chicago, my body in the winter. was like, you are not made for this. >> No one's made for that. >> Go to the equator. >> No one's made for that. This is not. about you made for that. I don't I mean. I don't know the history of anything you. do. When people first settled there, weren't they like when it hit October. like we got to go somewhere else.

>> They should have [laughter] been. >> Why did they stick it out? I think. they're those big lakes and they thought. someone started grilling sausage and. they're like this is this is amazing. We. could block off whole streets and just. sausage. Yeah. And arteries [laughter]. >> simultaneously. Um I don't know. I I think that all the. time because Chicago is not I was there. for a summer in 1988 with Robert Smiggle. and Bob Odenkirk and. >> you guys did that show. >> We did Happy Happy Good Show there. And. what I remember is.

>> oh I know Chicago is brutally cold in. the winter but it's going to be really. nice in the summer. It's the it's the. most uncomfortable I've been in my life. was the summer of 88. I was living in a. tiny apartment with no w my room had no. window. Um, and I was I would. practically weep at night. I was just. sleeping on a futon. I would rush down. to my car down like three flights of. stairs and sit in the car and run the. air conditioning. >> in my 1973 Plymouth Valiant and then.

turn it off and run upstairs to try and. go to sleep. But by the time I got up. there, I was just as hot as I had been. before cuz I ran up three flights of. steps. >> So, you've never felt the Chicago. winter. It's not like a New York winter. >> No, no, no. It's that wind coming. I. have. I've been there in the winter and. I've felt that wind coming off those. lakes. >> Yeah. It's like the world is trying to. kill you every single moment. It feels. genuinely like tiny monkeys with knives. are attacking you every time you're. outside. >> Oh god. >> Yeah. >> I've been attacked by monkeys with.

knives. And I now I completely get what. you're saying. [laughter]. >> As it was happening, you were like, "I. feel cold.". >> I said, "This feels like Chicago." AND. THEY'RE LIKE, "UM, WHAT? That's stupid. >> That's not stupid. It's combination of. stupid and really smart. Yeah. Is it? It's a gold ing. [laughter]. >> Wait a minute. No, that I'm looking. I'm. checking. That was just stupid. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. [music].

>> You've really had an incredible career. thus far because it's not over. But you. started out in standup and then you do. this work as an actor. You didn't just. have success, you had terrific success, you know, and I mean I've told you this. before and I was. >> If it's nice, you could say it again. Okay, I'm [laughter]. I just loved uh I absolutely loved.

Silicon Valley and I just there were. scenes in that that I think about to. this day and I just had lunch recently. with Alec Berg and I was reciting things. to him. I was reciting. >> I didn't know how do you know Alec Berg? >> He's a you know [clears throat] first of. all he worked he and Jeff Schaefer. worked on my late night show for a very. short time. I did not know that. >> before they wised up and got themselves. to Seinfeld. Yeah. We know each other, but we he finally said, "Hey, let's have. lunch." Cuz we never really got to sit.

down and talk about everything. >> Yeah. And he's such a smart, funny. writer. And we were talking and all I. kept doing was, you know, fanboying out. about Silicon Valley. I loved your. character on that show. And. >> would you say he was your favorite? [laughter]. >> No. >> Okay. >> No, I wouldn't. >> That's I hate that. that honest dude. >> I love the show. >> Don't even respect it. >> No, no. I love the show. [laughter] I. love the show. And I'm going to say you. were my least favorite, but because the.

show was so good. >> Still pretty good. >> It was No, it wasn't even pretty good. No, Jake. [laughter]. >> Hey, thanks again for doing Twain. Um, >> well, no, you got to play such great and. you did it really well, but you didn't. get to but you played so well the. insecurity of that character. Yes, he's. like. >> he's a wise ass who's also very. insecure, right? >> And uh when someone makes fun of the. little necklace you're wearing, the next. scene it's covered up.

>> and then they call you on that and. you're denying that you're covering it. up. >> I love So that happens. So there's a. there's a scene there's a there's a. story in the show where we get a little. bit of money. We're a little bit. successful. So, I go and buy a gold. chain and I put it on and I'm all. peacocking it. And then Martin Star's. character, Gilfoil, who are always going. at each other, starts making fun of me. for it. And there's like a really funny. scene where everybody's just going. around making fun of me. And TJ Miller's. character, Erlick, says um uh he calls. me Beliv Desh, [laughter].

and sings sings that chain is poison. [laughter]. >> Yeah. And then there's a part where like. the whole episode builds up to we're. going to go in, it's called skunk works, and we're going to go in and we're going. to sabotage this. There's like a whole. scheme we have and we're going to we. have like stuff that we're sneaking into. our own workspace and we're like, "Okay." So to really feel like we're. nothing is a mess. We have to keep. making fun of Desha's gold chain, otherwise people will know. >> So as we're walking in, Zach Woods's.

character goes really loud for everyone. to hear. He He goes, "Nice change, Desh. Do you uh choke your mother with with it. when you her in the butthole?". [laughter]. >> And. >> he goes too far. >> He goes way too far. And then. >> it's like [laughter] he's trying this. comedy thing he's watched other people. play with, but he doesn't know what it. is. Yeah. >> Yeah. Exactly. Doesn't it? [laughter]. And Thomas Middle's character, Richard, is so thrown by that he falls down and. all the papers that were trying to sneak. in come [laughter] out and the whole. whole scheme falls out. And you think.

we're setting up the whole season and. it's completely like destroyed by that. one line. That story line happened cuz. over the summers they would meet with. us. The writers would alle would have a. meeting with us be like do you have any. stories that might be good for like you. being like a loser? >> And so that story is from my real life. [laughter] I was like, at one point in. high school, I bought a silver chain and. uh and I thought it would be cool and. people like started making fun of me. mercilessly and then I couldn't take it. off until I was off their radar cuz then.

they knew that they'd know that's why I. was taking it off. So I took like every. morning like put on this gold. shade that [laughter] would get heavier. every day and like burn my skin. >> That's great that that's from your life. >> So that's from my life. And it's funny. cuz they like changed it from silver to. gold. Like my real life was too lame to. be the lamest character on a show with. just lame characters. They had to make. it slightly cooler. Otherwise, it was.

too [laughter] sad. >> My real life was too sad. >> So great. >> It's so great. >> There's also a line where [laughter]. >> um. >> I guess I guess it was [laughter] Thomas. Middle reveals his the logo that he. wants to use. This is very early on and. it's one of my favorite lines which is. delivered by you. This is he reveals the. character and it's it's like a Peter Pan. that's wearing a pi piper but it's got. like kind of a Peter Pan sort of.

>> he's got like a feather in his feather. in it and he's got a flute. >> and you [laughter]. I you talk about how it looks like he's. holding a dick. >> Yeah. It's I something like it looks. like he's sucking a dick and he's got. another one tucked behind his ear for. later. >> For later. >> Like a snack dick. >> He says a snack [laughter] dick. He says. he has it tucked in for later. And I'm. like for later. [laughter]. I just loved I mean I love the whole. thing but I let you just said it looks. like he has a an extra dick tucked in.

his hat for later. [laughter] And I just. like I'm just gonna keep this dick for. later. And I was I'm still laughing. about that. [laughter] I'm reciting it. to Alec Berg. for having lunch. Um, and. uh I'm just very I'm I'm very pleased. for you that you've been able to. uh have this kind of it's unusual for. people to you can do it in standup and. then you can explore this world and I.

think really nail it and then decide I'm. going to go back and do a standup. special again after all this. It's been. what 10 years since you. >> Yeah, it's been close to 10 years. It. was right when you started making the. big sick, which was 2016, >> that I stopped doing standup. Um, and it. was really exciting to go back, but it. was also like scary cuz I had to learn. to do it again. I'd sort of forgotten. And the performance, I don't know how. interesting this is. Maybe it's not. interesting at all, but the first I I. was like, I'm going to go see if I still.

like it and I'm going to try and. recreate the conditions of when I was. really doing it. So, I set up seven. shows over the course of two weeks and I. was like, I'm going to do all seven of. these and see if I could still enjoy it. And then the seventh one felt a little. bit like old times and I was like, oh. I think this is back. So, the. first two weeks went really well cuz, you know, I hadn't done stand up. People. were excited to see me. I felt nervous. I felt really present. And then after. that, the next few weeks were not as. good. I wasn't, as I got more. comfortable on stage, I was getting I.

wasn't doing as well on stage. And I was. like, why is this happening? And I. realized it's cuz as I was getting. comfortable, I was defaulting to how I. was on stage 10 years ago and I wasn't. the same person now. And it was and it. felt disingenuous to the audience. The. audience could feel that I was doing. something that was different from who I. am as a person now. And so I had to sort. of go out and be like, okay, I'm going. to go out on stage and not be beholden. to any like. >> not even try and do well. just really. try and see how I want to be on stage.

and just like really lean back and see. what comes out. So, I had to like. relearn how to do it and then I had to. relearn how to write it. It's very. different from writing anything else. It's interesting cuz the one thing I've. noticed about my own experience recently. is I'm always been myself. I've been I'm. just myself and when people don't like. what I'm doing, they don't like me. Do. you know what I mean? >> So, [laughter] you know, it's true. It's. just like I don't I don't like Conan. They're not talking about that Conan. guy. That's me. >> Yeah.

>> I'm so This is who I am. I'm The comedy. comes out of my sense of who I am. If. you don't like it, that's me. You don't. like which can be very painful. And I. found doing this movie role recently, that's not me. That's a different. person. >> Oh yeah. >> And so was that the first time in your. career you've done that? >> Well, I've done really. Yeah. Most times. when people want me to be in something, it's as Conan O'Brien saying, you know, this character is our next guest, whatever, which.

uh, you know, was not that fulfilling. But, uh, I had this weird detachment from it, like, well, if they don't like that guy, >> that's not my business. And by the way, >> my thing is so immediate. I do it and. then it comes out. >> hours later. some, you know, sometimes. with the podcast a week later, but most. of my career has been do it, say it, and. then a two hours later people are seeing. it at home. >> Yeah. And there's not like a tremendous. amount of prep going into it. Like I.

assume you're doing your late night. show. It's that day you prep for that. night and then next day it starts over. >> And so it's all immediate. Or if you're. doing live shows, I got to go out there. right now and I'm very like, "Oh my god, here we go." And then there's this. experience where you know that thing you. made where you had to be somebody else. and you made it two and a half years. ago. >> Yeah. >> It's coming out now and I'm very Oh, I. hope people like that fellow in that. thing. It's this feeling of. >> that's not really me. So you've had it.

the other way where you're very much I. think one of the hardest things about. standup is if they don't like you, they. don't like you. >> Yeah. But then you've you've worked this. other field where well I figured out a. way that even if they're rejecting a. character of me I'm playing in a movie, it still feels like they don't like me. >> Yeah. >> It still feels very personal. >> Yeah. >> And it's also So how did it feel to have. your performance in someone else's. hands? You've never had that. You're so. you have to trust the director. >> I would maybe not have liked it if I.

didn't. Mary Bronstein, the director, is. one of the most confident, cleareyed. people I've worked with. And she just. she wrote the this this is a story she. knows backwards and forward. She's very. much in control. And I just thought I. will I completely gave myself over to. her and I was I was completely trusting. of her. >> That's the best thing you can have as an. actor is this feeling of safety with a. director. You're like, I trust them to. to make me that I'm in their hand.

That's why I'm very interested in never. doing this again because I thought that. was an incredible experience. I'm with. Rose Burn in scenes. People seem to. really like this. I'm out. [laughter]. It's I don't want to have the other. experience. >> It's a really truly horrible feeling to. be making something that you're going to. be doing for 4 months with a director. and you're like, I don't think this. person knows what they're doing. That's. the worst feeling I've ever had. And my. wife was in a coma for a week. [laughter] I can't get away from this. SORRY. TAKE TAKE THAT OUT. NO, NO,

THAT'S STAGE TWO. >> What was your What was your prep going. into it? >> A lot of prep. What did you do? I worked. with Mary Bronstein really hard. >> Did you like come up with like this. story? >> She was suggesting that we do that. And. when she first suggested, I thought, "Come on, you don't need to do this.". And then she was right. It really helps. It really helps. A lot of the prep that. actors have to do is so stupid and it. feels so like pathetic, but it really is.

very helpful. >> But one thing I will maintain is stupid. are the warm-ups that people do before. an improv show. [laughter]. >> I I've always thought those were stupid. And whenever I've been asked to come. back and do some improv and they want to. bring me out to an alley behind you, it's a benefit. If we're all going to do. improv to raise money for an important. cause, can I just give the money? No, buddy. It's gonna Everyone's going to. love seeing you out there again. And. when you're back there and they go, "Let's play liberty la.".

I'm like, "Nope. This is. >> Does that not help you?". >> No, I've never done that. So, >> no. No. I'm I Doesn't help me. It just. irritates me. >> Yeah. >> And I think it's a hidden prank show. I. think that's the thing that comedians. have that is hardest for me to that was. the most challenging thing for me with. acting is that there's always part of. you that's so. >> so self-aware and knows you're like and. it's a great thing to have cuz you hear. so many actors talk and they are not. self-aware at all and it's like I'm sure. that's what you did but I wouldn't tell. anybody. >> Yeah.

>> But comedians have so there's like a. part of you that's always like this is a. little bit stupid and acting at its core. is like very stupid. >> Oh it's really stupid. Like I'm going to. Oh, you say this now I [laughter] say. this. Oh yeah, I'm an architect today. It's so stupid. >> I'm [laughter] glad you said that. >> I did not like my father because he did. not, you know, whatever it is. >> Yeah, >> my career in baseball did not work and. now I'm sad. [laughter] Say something, I'll say the same thing back to you 40. times. It's so stupid. And you have to.

like forget how [laughter] absolutely. stupid it is. You know what I. love? That's why I love doing a late. night show all those years or doing this. is that I can always be present with and. honest about this is stupid but I love. it. I could I never had to. >> You're right. You're absolutely right. that. >> you never gave me what I wanted is at. its core very silly. >> It's so you can't you can't see. >> cut. Hey, are the donuts here yet? That.

[laughter] thing is so weird. And then you're talking, you're hanging. out with the actor, then it's action, and now you're a different person, and. I'm a different It's so But I do love it. so much. Well, good. >> And I love it because so much, and I'm. sure you have this, too. It's. >> one of the challenges is to be like. really present in the moment, really. like listening to someone and reacting. in life. I was thinking about, oh, what. I said that was stupid or I think this. thing I did a week ago, I hope they. don't think it was, I should email them.

right now, or I have to do this thing. later. so much of my life is thinking. about what I did or what I'm going to do. and that when I'm acting I truly feel. very very present because you have to be. you have to be. Yeah. >> Well, I'm going to wrap this up because. you've been talking and talking and. talking and I mean it's just awful. >> It's [laughter] just awful. >> It's just going to be you the whole. time. Take me out. >> Well, you know, we do a lot we do this a. lot when I'm not happy with the way. something went and this is of course. today. Um, we take you out and then it's.

just we have lots of extra tape of me. just talking about me and we fill that. in with your, you know, >> Oh, you already have stuff ready to go. You've already recorded stuff. >> Yes. >> That they take Okay. >> Yeah. And so it's just going to be. people will be confused because they'll. hear, "Oh, this is great. Conan's. talking to Camille. This is going to be. really funny." And then there'll be some. confusion that it's me talking and then. when the parts where you were talking, it's just more me talking about me. >> But I love those episodes. [laughter]. Stop listening. >> Is that it? We're at the end of it.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> This was great. >> Did we talk about anything? We. [laughter] talked about I think we kind. of talked about everything, but also. >> it really did fly by. I had fun. >> Um my special. Yeah. Are you saying it? I am going to say that it's on Hulu and. it's called Kuml Nani Night Thoughts and. it is really funny cuz you're really. funny and um you're one of those people. I just always enjoy and I'm crazy. jetlagged with I'll tell you this behind.

the scenes story. crazy jet lag from. this trip I took for my travel show and. I was on the other side of the world and. I came back and I' I just got back and. I'm completely out of it and my staff. was saying you know you're so tired and. out of it you know we should probably. move this podcast and they said who is. it and they said it's Kuml and I was. like no [laughter] a that is so that's. that's like a treat for me that's like. saying we canceled your birthday cake so. [laughter] that is not happening. >> so sweet thank you. Thank you. That's.

>> Thank you so much. Continue to thrive. and uh I just I I really love being your. friend. Means a lot to me. >> Oh my god, that's so I want to also. mention really quickly before I go back. to saying what I want to say about you. is I'm also in the new series of Fallout. which is a show I love. >> Isn't it a great show? So I have a. little part in that season 2 that's also. out on Amazon Prime probably. >> But you said acting is stupid. [laughter].

Yeah, but I'm really good at it. >> Yes. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Take take that. [laughter] out. Um, it means so much to. me that I get to be your friend and text. you and have you respond. Like truly, genuinely, I do comedy because of you. And I've. talked to other friends of mine who say. the same thing where they're like, "We. do comedy because of Conan." like what. you mean to us is I mean and the fact. that you're still like around and you. engage with us and you keep like. reinventing yourself and changing who. you are while still staying true to what.

we love about you. It's very rare for. comedians to grow up and still be like. you know you lose a lot of heroes as. they grow up and it's I feel very very. grateful that we don't lose so nicely. I. have to say my big fear always was, "Oh. my god, you get older and please someone. tell me like stop, stop." Gorly says it. all. Gorly says it all the time. I have. my people that I look to and one of them. is Martin Short. I just like go and I'm. like okay that guy's the generation.

ahead of me. >> and he's still as funny as a person can. be. Um and Steve Martin and I just say. okay uh you know they can do it. You can. if you. >> Yeah. I don't know. >> We're your Selena Gomez. [laughter]. >> You're welcome. >> Yeah, truly. >> I'm definitely your Selena Gomez. >> You're you're our you're you're our. lighthouse. You really are. [laughter]. You really are like the person we look. to to be like, "All right, it's possible. to not turn into a giant as you.

age." We shall see. I was with my. friends last night. [laughter]. >> This is a story that's still in prog. Let me just make some notes here. >> Yeah, please. >> Corly. girl is not buying any of this. I was I was hanging out with. friends last night and I mentioned I was. doing this podcast and people started. quoting your bits and someone said this. joke that was so it was from the year. 2000. I want to get it right and it was. you and Jim Carrey and you tried to make. him laugh with something with the mask. the mask that the movie that he was in.

with the green face. >> I forget what what but he like kept it. together and it was his turn. He said to. you I heard you're going to be in the. mask too the return of Rocky Dennis. [laughter]. It's such good writing. It's such a good. show. >> Oh my god. [laughter]. >> All too true. All right. Well, be well, thrive, and I'll see you soon, I hope. Thank you. Yes.