Kesha Takes Conan On A Spiritual Journey (FULL EPISODE) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

[Music]. Hi, my name is Kesha and I feel. about being Conan O'Brien's friend. >> That's exactly what Michelle Obama said. >> She did not. That was what Aluccino said. [Music]. >> Hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien. needs a friend. Uh my eternal search for. friendship. really meaningful friendship.

>> so far. How many of these shows have we. done? >> 300 and something. >> and not one person has agreed to be my. friend. This is a this is a journey. It's like Hercules in his labors. I'm. just out there trying, but I'll keep. trying. I'm joined uh by my I hope. friends, my panels, >> we're friends. >> and employees. Um. >> that's true. >> Yeah. Uh son Messian, >> you said 300 and I was going to guess. like 3,000. >> No, 350 something like that, right? 350. I was way off. Okay. >> And Matt Gley, how are you? I haven't.

seen you guys in a while. Uh we've we. spent a little time apart and I did miss. you guys. I say that with genuine. feeling. Good, >> which is rare for me. Um and I'm curious. how everyone's doing. Sona, what's what. you been up to? >> I fell uh down the stairs a couple days. ago. >> We're laughing already. Well, you're. here, so you weren't killed. >> No, I wasn't killed. But. >> where tell us what happened. It was at. my new place and I was coming down the. stairs and I slipped and so I like slid.

down the stairs on my on my butt. >> So it was like a all the way down and. nobody was around. Like Tac was in the. shower and so it was one of those things. where you just kind of are like, >> "Well, I just fell. Now I have to just. get up and continue on with my day.". >> Did Did uh Did you get Did it hurt? It. hurts so bad. >> on the on the coxix. The tailbone. >> Yes. On my tailbone. And it still hurts.

Like I'm having like I'm kind of like. moving around a lot on the on the chair. right now cuz it's like kind of. uncomfortable for me. But. Tac came out of the shower and he was. like, "What was that?". It sounded like something really heavy. fell. >> Okay. T. Who threw a piano down the stairs? Who threw an Armenian piano down the. stairs? >> Oh, come on. But it was just like, you. know, when you fall, it's like it could. be funny if someone else is around or if.

other people. >> You're chilling right now. >> If other people like come and check on. you, then it's like, oh, okay, she fell. It's weird, you know, but she's okay. >> They make it kind of normal. >> Yes. But when you're by yourself and you. just you're at the end of your fall and. you're just kind of in a weird position. and you're like, I just have to get up. and just keep going, >> right? That's life. >> I know. But. >> is all of life. >> And it's ironic cuz people falling is. one of my favorite things. >> Oh my god. You have shown me over the.

years as my assistant long before this. podcast, you would say you've I would. hear explosive laughter. I'd be trying. to get a show together. I'd hear. explosive laughter. I'd go out and you. would be watching a bride come out at. her happiest moment and then fall into a. big bowl of dog. like and you would be crying. I would. too. And then and you know what it is? It's best it's best when it happens when.

someone's pining. You know if there is. there is a difference. If a person just. falls, it's not as funny as someone. who's dressed up for their big moment. and grinning and saying, "Everybody look. at me." And then they trip. Do you know. what I mean? And uh it's. >> there was a there was a video I. bookmarked and would watch over and over. again. It was these two men dressed as. mascots, so in big costumes, and they.

were on ice, and they were doing a a. commercial for, I think, cars or a car. dealership. Okay, this is. we're gonna have to throw to this. We're. going to find this and throw to it. >> Wait, wait, hold on. Hold on. Okay, one. of the real quick listeners, go to the. YouTube channel or mascots podcast could. not stay standing.

This is This is I'm so glad I brought. this up. >> I can't breathe. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> You got to find. >> Go to the tape. Go to the tape. >> He's like, you know, he's like walking. around and then he just. >> goes down hard. Yeah. >> Oh my. You've been defeated. >> Oh my god. You're in vapor lock. You. defeated it. You've been.

>> I'm actually crying. I can't speak. >> I think about it. I think like on a. regular I think about it more than I. think about my kids sometimes. Just this. video of this guy this these like Did. you find Please tell me you found it of. these people on a mascot. >> This is it. >> This is it. >> This This is it. I've seen it. Okay. >> Oh my god. Put it up. >> Put it up. >> I'm going to cry more. >> You know what does that for me? Have you. ever seen the drunk Ewok on the Today. Show at Halloween? that humps their legs and does Michael.

Jackson dancing. >> Oh my god, it's incredible. It's. incredible. It's like a Halloween. >> display. There we go. >> Oh my god. >> Is this it? >> Yes. >> Yeah, it's the bloopers. >> The wrong socks. [Laughter]. >> Oh, the hot dogs here. [Laughter]. Don't make him keep doing.

>> Don't make him keep doing it. >> I didn't give up. >> He's about to. help him. Help him. >> Guys is a proud sponsor of Golden Goat. for Hot. [Laughter]. Oh my god.

Are they playing Yagy Sacks? >> What? >> Oh my god. >> Okay, whatever that car is, I'm buying. it. >> Why? Why do they keep me? >> Amazing. >> Look at her. Look at her. She's a. puddle. >> That lived up. Sona, I wasn't thinking. that was going to live up to her. That. was pretty good. She's going to die. You. You're not getting enough air. >> Yeah, I am. Sometimes I get really. scared I'm not breathing enough when I. laugh. Video does it all every single.

time. >> We got to do this. Uh my guest today is. a singer songwriter whose first. independently produced album, Period, is. out now. Very happy she's here today. She's a she's an old friend from back in. the day. Kesha, welcome. [Music]. Pesha, first of all, we I know it's a. podcast. It's an audio medium, but you. look as always fantastic. And we do have. cameras rolling. Anyone, you got to go.

online. You got to check out right what. what how Kesh is dressed. You look. fantastic. >> Thank you. Which camera do I like. >> stand and look? I mean, we have all. these cameras here. >> You look incredible as you always do. You're wearing Conan merchandise. And. this is Oh my god. I just. >> Oh my lord. And this is what you will. look like if you buy Conan merchandise. >> Oh wow. >> Yeah, >> it's amazing. >> Kesha was a 77y old man before she put. that shirt on and became. um I am so glad you're here. You look.

gorgeous. You look fantastic. You are. all things Kesha. >> Um and I want to start. by reminiscing. >> Let's go. >> You came on my show in 2010, I believe. when you were blowing up with Tik Tok. and you kept coming back on my show. >> I wouldn't leave. >> You would not leave, but you were such a. loyal person. You always came back to. the show. You were always great. We had. great interviews. Uh we had great.

moments. You would perform. You were. just a trooper and so nice to me. And I. wanted to first thank you for that. >> You're just a you're just a you're you. were great. And then I want to reminisce. about we're not getting into specifics. today about the various that you. have gone through. Um we're going to. stay clear of all that for all legal. reasons and blah blah blah. But I was. walking along uh in Venice a bunch of.

years ago when you were in the midst of. some real dark times and we bump into. each other. I hugged you because I just. knew that you were going through this. bad time and we had this like nice. moment of me asking you how you doing, you talking to me. It was this nice. human moment. Of course, you're Kesha, so there's paparazzi. >> Yeah. >> I had never seen paparazzi before. >> They are not interested in Conan. O'Brien. So I was like, "Hey, so that's. Paparazzi. >> They avoid you.". >> Yeah. No. Oh, no. No. A photo No. A.

photo of Conan O'Brien is uh is worth. less. Even in the digital era, you lose. money on a photo of Conor O'Brien. But. they got this photo uh and and so I. thought and it circulated and I thought. got to first call the wife about hugging. uh Kesha on the street um. >> to confess. >> to confess that yes, Kesha and I have. been seeing each other secretly. But on. a personal level, I'm very happy for you. that you have gone through. a really bad experience and come out the.

other side seemingly stronger than ever. and looking beautiful and making great. music. And so just I just wanted to. start with that like this just big dose. of positivity and and as my old friend, I'm proud of you for hanging in there. >> Oh my god, this means so much coming. from you. You're iconic. And the reason. I kept showing up is not because you're. iconic, but because you're such a good. man. Like, you're so kind. And you can. just tell in Hollywood.

>> there's everybody and then there's like. the especially bad ones, but then. there's like sprinkled with especially. good ones. And I just could always tell. from the very beginning. >> I was like, he's an espe like you're a. magical like light worker. like you're. just amazing. So that's why I do this. and that's why I show up with. >> guitars in your face on my. >> Listen to this. You look at you look. what you brought. You bring you you. bring me this gorgeous Fender Strat.

which is I love a Fender Strat. I look. at this. Yes, I know. We're now a game. show like a price is right. >> and I've never seen that color with a. black pick guard and it is absolutely. How's the action on that baby? >> The action is satisfaction. >> Okay. You shouldn't have asked him. >> I know. I regret. >> you back. Yeah, >> that was so nice of you. You're just a. lovely person. >> But literally, it's because you're such. an amazing person. >> Oh, >> like that. >> We got to take this on the road. I think. I should be part of your I think I.

should be part of your live show. >> Let's go. I'm going on tour, baby. Let's. go. >> I know. And it's called the tits out. tour. >> Yeah. You'll have to get your tits out, though. >> Listen, when when I let these When I let. these babies out, >> you were going to see audience. attendance plunge. When these two Irish cutlets come out, >> bring them out, baby. >> When these. go like two two little dollops of spam. >> That is both too too poetic and too on.

the nose or something. Oh my god. Irish. cutlets. They got to come out. They've. never seen sunlight. And it is time. >> Let's go. Come to MSG. I'm I'm. headlining Madison Square Garden for the. first time in my entire career. >> Wait, how could that be the first time? I've played there many times. It's the. first time I'm headlining. So, like. having gone through the I've gone. through. >> Not fun. Don't need to talk about it. But. >> I will say I am proud of me too. >> You should be. >> I am proud of me. >> And I'll say something. Um I want to go.

back and take people just, you know, this is not news to you, but your story, you've been working at this for a very. long time. And I think I like to. highlight those parts of the story. because there are a lot of people that. can think attractive woman hits it big. It can just happen. They don't. understand the years and years of the. songwriting you were doing since you. were a kid. >> Oh yeah. >> Um your mom. >> a songwriter.

>> Totally. Yeah. >> Wrote for Dolly Parton. >> Uhhuh. >> Wrote for a bunch of people. >> Johnny Cash, Ro Hagert. >> But you guys had hard times. uh food. stamps, not a lot of money, struggle, >> and from an early age, you were writing. songs and working on. >> becoming yourself. >> Yeah. Well, I kind of like got the. assignment when I was little, like my. mom was like, "You're going to be a pop. star." And I was like, "I am?" She's. like, "Yeah." And I was like, "All. right." And so then I was going to go to. Colombia. I didn't know that you went to.

Harvard. >> Yeah. >> That's cuz you're smarty. A little. genius. >> No. No. Lots of evil. Trust me. Lots of. evil, dumb people go there, too. >> I believe you. >> Every college encompasses all kinds of. people. So, yeah, there are war. criminals there right now that are. training to be war criminals. But that. aside, and don't worry, I'll make a. donation. Um, you were working on your mom told you. you're going to be a pop star and you. took the assignment seriously. Well, I'm.

also secretly people don't know this. about me because I, you know, have my. butt hanging out and I brush my teeth. with a bottle of Jack. These kind of. things. So, people think I'm like dupy, but actually I was really smart. >> You're dupy like a fox. >> I'm dupy like a fox. No, I got like. almost perfect SAT scores. My IQ, I. forget what it was, but it was. impressive. And I was going to. >> Before all the Jack Daniels got me. >> before all the Jack Daniels got to me. and I was gonna go to Colombia and study.

comparative religion and psychology. >> Uhhuh. >> And then instead I signed a record deal. >> Yeah. >> So what was my point? >> I think the point is and it does not. surprise me. You're saying, "Oh, it. might surprise some people that you're. smart.". >> Yeah. >> Um there's all kinds of ways of being. smart. And it does not surprise me at. all that you're really smart. and and. and watching first of all the tenacity. that you took to your career. I think. for your first album if I'm correct you.

wrote like 200 songs. >> Oh, every album I write like 200 songs. I write many I this week I've probably. written like nine songs. It's insane. Most of them are bad and some of that's. like how some of the hits come out is. cuz I'm like okay yesterday I wrote a. good song. Today I'm going to write one. or two songs, so let me just write like. the worst song and then all of a sudden. the worst one I can write ends up being. the fan favorite. >> Well, that does not surprise me. There's.

an old saying that every person who. comes out with the great American novel. or great has 15 terrible novels in their. desk. >> Yeah. >> And the problem is once they write the. hit novel, then the publishers quickly. want another one. So they go, "Oh, I got. them." And it's like, yeah, there's a. reason those didn't go. Um, yeah, you. you have to write. I mean, Lennon. McCartney wrote hundreds and hundreds. and hundreds of songs before they get to. >> writing the good stuff. And. >> I think a lot of art is good editing.

>> It's what you take out. >> Now, this podcast, >> we don't seem to take much out. Oh, it. would be 10 seconds long. and it just can't make any. >> Yeah, this isn't art. So, we know that. >> that's not true. Humor to me is the most. impressive kind of art. I'm going to. challenge you on that. >> I think in moments I think in moments we. hit these really nice high notes and. then there's a lot of Matt going blah. blah blah and Sona going blah blah blah.

>> Why do I sound like that? >> You have a beautiful high register. Ah, >> it's funny cuz you describe yourself as. a kid as a seeker. >> and that you. >> tried out different churches. You were. you were looking for something. >> Well, so since I was little, okay, let. me back this up. It's my last lifetime. >> Mhm. >> And I always knew that, but then I. recently was at the Naked Hippie Commune. and the medicine woman was like, you. know, it's your last lifetime. I was. like, I know, right? She's like, it.

definitely is. So, ever since cuz I'm. Pisces. >> What? And Pisces means you've had other. You're saying you've had other. lifetimes. How many do you think you've. had? >> Oh, too many. >> Okay. And this is the last one. >> This is it, baby. This is the finale. That's why I got it all popping off like. crazy. >> Yeah. >> So, it's the last one cuz I was like, "Give me all you got." And God was like, "Are you sure?" And I'm like, "Yeah, bitch." And then I'm like, >> you know, when I call God he. tends to throw thunderbolts down at me. >> Or she.

>> Or they. I'm just going to cover every. base here. But what I'm saying is uh um. I don't like the way you talk to God. I. think it's disrespectful. That's my only problem. Um so you know, so this is your last lifetime. I would. be okay with this being my la last. lifetime because I've loved this. lifetime. And if this is it, I am not. greedy for more. I don't think it's. going to get better. >> When's your birthday? >> April 18th. >> Oh, you're at the beginning, honey. >> I know. I can't do more. This is like.

your first one. You have like 3,000. minimum left. >> I'm more worried for the world than. >> Oh my god. >> Well, it's going to it's going to be end. times. >> It's all post-apocalyptic me babbling as. a new person. >> Um, so you were going to uh you were you. know this is your last who told you. this? A shaman told you this? >> Well, this medicine woman. So, I go to. this place called Eselin and it's like. you can be naked and you started as an.

alternative to an insane asylum, but. it's in the redwood forest and you go. and you soak in like these lithium. filled baths and you're naked and it's. beautiful and there's butterflies. We. love it. >> So, I go there and then I met this. medicine woman and she's like, "Oh my. god." And I was like, "I know." And. she's like, I'm like, "I know." And. she's like, "It's your last lifetime, you know." I'm like, "Yes." And so we've. been doing all this work trying to get. me like spiritually. focused and ready to just like spread as.

much love in the most adorable package. as much as I can. >> till the day I die. >> Let me ask you a question. Would I do. okay at be honest? >> You would love it. >> Do you? But. >> have you ever been Do you know about it? >> I've never been naked. So, >> well, come to the tour and get your. >> So, so, so, >> no, but what I'm saying is, what I'm. saying is I don't know. Be honest. Pick. try be and be We're friends. Be honest. How would I do at. >> Well, how do you feel about spiders?

>> I'm okay with spiders. >> Okay. How do you feel about like. nakedness and. >> I like other people being naked. >> Okay. How. >> totally down with it. >> How do you feel about hippies? >> Hippies. I'm cool with hippies. >> You'd be You'd be great. >> Yeah. Yeah, you can go and like take. different I teach songwriting there. >> Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. I'm down with all. of it. I'm down with everyone else being. naked. Me maybe in a three-piece suit. >> No, that's great. You can whatever makes. >> like a little but like uh assless chaps.

>> Wait, but you're watching everybody. who's naked and you're fully clothed and. sketching them. >> Sounded sounding kind of weird. I've. done that there. >> And I found a little window I can peer. out of. >> Oh no. >> Yeah. peering through a little window. and I brought the little window. I set. it up between two trees. >> And you were never invited there. >> And I was not invited there. And I'm. escorted out and I run away every time. you go. >> You were invited. Now you're not. invited. >> I'm not invited. You just disinvited me. >> No, you would love it. We should go. Honestly, if you ever want to go for a. weekend, it's my favorite place in the.

world. Okay. >> And what was my point of all of this? >> You don't need a point. That's the thing. is it's. >> a podcast word. You don't need this one. This how this one works. >> So I just don't have to have a point. I. responsibility God. I'm gonna give you. your point. Go ahead. >> And this is the ultimate form of. mansplaining. I'll tell you, Kesha, what. you meant. >> Tell me my point. >> Well, I was asked bringing up the fact. that as a kid, you were a seeker. You. went to like 10. You used to drive. around to different churches or have. your mom drive around to explore. And it.

sounds like this has been a theme in. your life. You're going to you're just. >> you're out there to try and find out. whatever you can find out. You're. curious, which takes a certain amount of. bravery, I would say. >> Oh my god. It's It's very psychedelic. out here. You guys don't think it's so. surreal. >> I have the trippiest experiences and I'm. like. >> it's fine line between like spiritual. and just insane. But like. >> I love writing that line. And I've just. had so many interesting like.

serendipitous experiences like where my. my cat I had a spiritual awakening and I. like saw the universe and my cat brought. me headphones and a guy. >> was that real the part where your cat. brings you headphones. >> I swear to God, Mr. Peeps, I swear to God. >> What brand headphones? You can turn this. into a plug. >> and then Mr. Peeps can make some money. >> Come on, Peter. Let's go. No. So, >> what do we use in here? You sure. headphones. >> It was this giant Sure headphones. My. cat brought me those.

>> cat approved. >> Ask Mr. Peeps. >> They're really good. >> Mr. Peeps just made $40,000. >> He does that. He's great. [Music]. So anyways, so like weird psychedelic. things have been happening my whole. life. So I started cuz in school I was. like I don't I don't know if I belong. >> with these people cuz I'm in like. outside of Nashville. People are thrown.

around the nword. I'm like I think I'm. gay. And then. >> I was like well actually I just don't. like anybody. And so then I met punk. rockers and I was like, "Wait, I. with punk rockers cuz they're like. >> don't give a but they stand in. their integrity, but like in a very. offensive way.". >> Yeah. >> It's kind of fun. And so I was like, >> in your face. Yeah. That's the essence. of punk rock is lean into it in your. face. This is happening. >> Yeah. But like at the at the heart of. it, there's a lot of integrity. Yeah.

>> That's just mixed with rage and like I. don't give a how this reads to you, but like it is what it is. And I loved. that. Like Iggy Pop was a guiding light. for me. So I'm in like middle school. I'm like, "Mom, will you drive me from. one super church to the other one?" And. my first kiss outside of a super church. And I was like, >> I have always been fascinated with what. makes people. do what they're doing, like survive. Like what do you believe in? What are we.

doing? What are we doing here? >> And who are you going to listen to about. how to do it? And like why? >> Mhm. So that was always my fascination even. with becoming a pop star. Like I always. thought Mc Jagger was very similar to. like the preachers I would see at the. church. Like. >> there's a similarity there. >> He's a good frontman. >> Yeah. >> You know MC Jagger probably the greatest. frontman of all time. A good frontman is. serving the same purpose as a preacher.

Yeah, >> it's this tireless energy and then they. have to project hardcore belief in what. they're doing. >> Totally. >> And you can't let that, you know, that's. why. it's easier to be Bill Wyman, the bass. player in the Stones, formerly bass. player, but like you can kind of hang. back and have a bad day, but if you're. Mick Jagger, you can never have a bad. day. >> You can't doubt. You can't have a doubt. in your damn body about what you're. doing. And like that faith, I'm like, I want that faith in something. That's wild. So, I always was like.

really fascinated to that energy. And. like, >> did you know you could get up on a stage. or that you you belonged up on a stage. even as a a kid? >> No. I was like the person that. everyone's like, you're too weird to. even like sit near. Like, you're just so. weird. And so, no, I didn't want to be. on the stage. I was like, I'm just going. to go make out with some dude. >> That has been my motto my whole life. >> Wow. you guys. I'm gonna go make out. with some hot dude.

>> This was your religion in a way. >> Honestly, dead ass. >> Yes. >> I dabbled in that a little bit. >> I was Sona worked with me for quite a. while during the period of time when you. were coming on the show and everything. Sona was making out with some dude up in. my office. >> She was supposed to be filing. >> who's done the filing lately. >> This is my It was my religion. Yeah, it. was your religion. >> Yeah. So, >> I love that. I just saw there's a song. in there. Go on. >> There's um You got to cut her in. Uh.

>> no, it's fine. >> You know, it's interesting to me that. and I didn't realize that you were doing. backup vocals for a while before you hit. it on your own. And that's a very. interesting role I would think and very. educational because you're around Miley. Cyrus, Ariana Grande, and you're. watching them do it and you're doing. this providing this very technical. assistance to them as the, you know, and. helping them out, but you're also you're. kind of watching from the side, but. seeing how it's done. >> Totally. And like absorbing it all. Like.

I've worked with. all different kinds of people in the. business, but one of the greats is Rick. Rubin. Y. >> and like just seeing how he's done it. alongside of how someone like Ariana. does it alongside of I wrote a song for. Britney. >> like just kind of like taking these. notes and that's why I teach songwriting. is cuz I'm like I've been around some of. the most incredible like artists. >> of our generation.

>> not let alone myself right so very cuddy. Um, >> this is only going to be the uh the. podcast that's used that word the third. most. >> That's right. Right. There two others. that are still ahead of you to figure it. out. >> I like watching I like watching people. in flow. That's why you wanted to know. why I brought you a guitar is because I. love watching people in flow. I love. seeing people in their creative. and like anything can be creative,

right? like the way I got dressed today. I It's creative. >> Yes. You took a Conan t-shirt and you. took it so uh to the next level that um. Yeah. I've never been attracted to. myself. and now I am. Wait a minute. That's not true. >> Promoting promoting self- loveve in. here, too. We love that. >> You're not attracted to Kesha. You're. attracted to yourself. >> Making the t-shirt with me on it.

attractive. Yeah, I'm certainly. attracted to you as well. >> Yeah. >> So, let's talk about this because you. you put in the time, you work, you work, you work, then I meet you when Tik Tok. hits and it's a phenomenon. And you have. described the feeling. that so many people wish and pray for. this day. And when it happens though, it's kind of mindaltering because you. had been playing in front of Oh, I just. played a show and there were a couple. hundred people there and then overnight.

>> Dude, it was not. >> Don't you call me dude. >> I almost called you. >> I'm an admiral in the Navy. You call me. Admiral O'Brien. >> I'm an admiral in the Kesha Navy. >> I stopped myself from saying No. Okay. >> No, is okay. This is okay with. >> Not to go. Okay. So the shows I was. playing before that were like 10 people. and the one guy at the bar was asleep. So does he count? I don't know. And then. I played Laala Palooa and I will look.

out and I was like, uh, do they know? They must be here for the person after. me, >> right? Who's standing behind me that. they want to see? >> And I was like, what? And then they knew. the song and I was like, what the. is going on here? And then that night it. was like hanging out with the Black Keys. and they came to the show and I'm like, "Whoa, what the hell?" It happened so. fast. So fast. And my mind like was. like, "What?" It was very weird. >> Well, I remember you came on for TikTok.

and then you kept coming back uh uh with. other performances. And what I always. remember is how. you're so quick and funny and your whole. spirit was let's see where this goes. Which was great, which was really nice. And you had this sense of humor about. uh I'm I'm sure try to say this right. way. Like you would use your sexuality. in this way that was really fun. >> Silly and fun. >> Silly and fun. and things firing out of.

your. >> chicha. I'm sorry. Yes, that's right. >> I didn't realize we were in in. Nicaragua. >> Please, someone translate for me. >> Two counties and a chicha. You got them. >> And one chicha. I'm not familiar with. the chicha. or the vagina for that matter. >> You both were writing in here. >> Yeah. I'm just trying to get my terms. right. You know, when Kesha comes on, it.

comes with a term sheet. >> Yeah, >> it does. There's. >> God is a Uh there's cunties and. chichas. >> Can we get a teleustrator in here as. well? >> But no, like literally and things were. firing out of your nipples and it was. >> There was You didn't Oh, wait a minute. That's a dream I had. >> Um Yeah. You had You would You would. There was a burlesque fun attitude about. it all. >> Yeah. which uh was had a almost. cartoonish element to it and it was it.

was fun. It was for lack of I mean. that's the that's the word. It was fun. and experimental and artistic and silly. and absurd and the whole thing mashed. together. >> Totally. Cuz I like I grew up not. knowing. I didn't have my God to pray to like. even in anywhere. I was like, and I and. I've started to realize like it's kind. of cool that I do feel like a true. original. In ways I wished I had someone to be.

like, I want to be just like that. person, but there's like nobody to. really point to. Like there are a lot of. amazing people I want to be like in. ways, but there's not just like one. person. >> Well, I have this theory that I've had. for a while, >> which is we all grow up looking at. people and thinking, >> I really like what they're doing. I. really like what they're doing. I really. like what they're doing. And. sometimes you can mistakenly think I. want to be that person. And what I have. found is it's and I've said this before. It's your failure.

>> to be the person. And I'm not I use the. word failure. It's not really a failure, but it's your attempt to be the person. and your inability to be them that makes. you original. >> Yes. >> So you you have your eye on this idea. that I'd like to be that person, but. you're different. You've got in my case, I was just I I was aiming at that and I. was a bad copy of that when I was. younger or thinking I was supposed to be. that and then it was my failure to be. any of those people that made me. whatever I am. >> Totally. I like I have many thoughts.

about this. So, I think authenticity is. the highest vibration you can vibrate. at. like true authenticity, not trying. to be somebody like really just your. authentic weird self with your family. dynamic passed down in your body and. your DNA and where you come from and. everything you've seen and done. Like. your authenticity, you're the only one. Like everyone is a. true original. >> And so I've like started playing a fun. game with myself like how authentic can. I be? And it freaks people out. It kind.

of freaks me out sometimes, but then I'm. like well it's authentic. This is the. game we're playing. It's your last. lifetime. So that's a Wait, there was a. really good point. Hold on. >> Let me tell you what it was. >> What was it? >> B. Tariffs don't work. Oh, >> okay. I remember now. >> Sorry. >> Okay. >> I made I made a guess and I was I was. wrong. >> Not was not okay. Height of the pop.

stardom like bedazzled bodysuits, not eating. like trying to be. trying to be this thing that I'm not. >> Yep. >> And I just like hit a wall where I'm. like doing the da the dancing and I'm. like this is not me. >> Everybody wants me to be this and I'm. trying to please them because I like. people to be happy. I want people to be. happy. Timberest song in the world. Took off the bedazzled bodysuit.

>> Mhm. >> Stopped the arena tour. started a punk. band called Yeast Infection, played Dive. Bars, much to the dismay of everybody. around me. >> Oh my god, they were not happy. >> But like, that's one of my proudest. moments cuz like I did grow up on food. stamps. I'm not scared of what it means. to not have money. Like, that. I'm. going to stand in my integrity of who I. am and in my authenticity. And I'm not. going to stand for like I'd become the.

thing that I. like hated. Like I don't want little girls looking. up to someone who's not eating and me. pretending like I'm eating but I'm not. Like no, I'm not going to do this. It's. not who I am. It's not what I stand for. that. And that was like when. everything changed where I was like I. tried it your way you guys and it's. and now I'm doing it my way and. like take whatever you want because my. genius is in my mind. >> Mhm. So, you can never have it. You can. own my voice. You can do the thing. Blah.

blah blah. >> Well, let's talk about that because the. uh album you're coming out with now is. the first time that you've owned the. rights to your voice. Is that right? >> Yeah. It's the first time I've had the. legal rights to my recorded voice since. I was 18 years old. >> Jesus. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. Um and after a 10-year litigation, three states. >> And this is period. This is the and and. it is it's a strange thing to think. about and I can kind of relate not on.

the same scale but I can kind of relate. when you're. >> young and super hungry you just want in. >> when you're just happy to be there. >> You're happy to be there. And so, and. this is the one of the oldest stories in. show business. >> is pop stars. when they're 17, 18, >> signing everything away because. someone's saying, "We'll we have the. microphone. The microphone's in that. room. If you want to sing into it,

>> sign this piece of paper and you'll do. it.". >> Yeah. Well, and you also like your. brain's not fully developed. I grew up. without a father, you know, came from. very humble beginnings and so like also. didn't really understand in perpetuity. in the universe. >> Mhm. >> Like that's what I signed and I was like. and in my mind I'm like I'm a punk. rocker. Like he's going to take they're. going to take a bunch of money. That's. fine. Like I don't care about money. But.

actually what I didn't realize is like. in perpetuity in the universe my voice. like that's a. >> it's a big thing you're signing. >> Yeah. >> And then I just like I like reached max. capacity biggest song in the world. moment and then it was like no. >> Yeah. >> And so that's when I saw you in the. street. >> So I needed that hug. So thank you. >> I was wandering around hoping I could. hug Kesha and I manifested you. >> I love that. And I was like, I got to. get her fast cuz it's her last life.

>> You can do that. >> And I'm And I knew that I had 10,000. lives still to go. >> But I knew I couldn't get you the next. time around. >> Oh, right. >> Cuz you're not going to be around the. next time. There's going to be some. other I don't want to hug that creep. this period of time that you went. through this crazy litigation and all. that stuff that everyone's read about. and and I don't think people that have. been through. legal things on that scale can. understand how it consumes your whole.

life, you know, and like it takes over. your whole life. And when it has to do. with your creativity and what you do to. keep yourself sane, >> that's doubly. It's not like, oh, you're. being sued over a parking lot that you. own in Nino and you may not get to see. it for a while or you may lose part of. it. It's your essence of who you are. >> Well, it's the thing that you Yeah. It's. It's weird. It's like your soul is is.

>> like on paper owned by someone else, but. you're like, but it's in my body and I. have rights to my body, but all of this. has infiltrated every ounce of my body. and my brain and it just is really toxic. and it's really unfortunate because, you. know, people use that as like a tool to. torture. >> Mhm. >> And it works. Like it was really really. hard and I just remember getting more. and more um scared and paranoid. >> because like the but then also.

like how long it went on and that was by. design. >> Yeah. >> And. you know I remember being told that by. the time I got out of this situation I. would be old and I would be broke and I. would be irrelevant. So every single. time that I do anything that connects, it hits like on a level people will. never understand, >> right? >> And so like it's like. >> it's a great it's a sweet revenge. >> Oh, it's also just like.

>> it's not true. Like. >> I'm not old, god damn it. And I'm well. the legal bills, but and I'm not. irrelevant. And so that it's like it's. nice to have people that believe in you. and like. >> so I appreciate you and I always have. from the be like our relationship from. the beginning. >> It's so funny that you cuz I feel like. we're in in tune in some crazy way uh. because you bring this guitar and you. talk about flow state. That is the way I. chill is before you showed up, I was.

upstairs with an epohone casino strapped. on just doing scales and noodling and. doing little riffs because that in my. office because that's how I kind of turn. off the noise. >> is I've found that if my hands are busy. >> the noise goes away and if I'm doing. scales or if I'm doing it's just. everything calms down a little dead. >> Yes. This is what The Real Housewives of. Beverly Hills does to me.

>> I'm dead ass right now. I don't know. why, but it scratches that part of my. brain. >> But, you know, I completely relate to. that. And I've said this before, but uh. for my wife, it is below deck. >> Um she likes her some below deck. And. there are times where she's so smart and. she's so, you know, hyper literate and. hyper competent. And then there are. times where I'll just find her in a room. and she's like got Cheeto dust on her. face and she's just watched like 15.

below down under below decks in a row. >> And you're like I'm like are you all. right? And she's like who are you? Like. I'm your husband of 23 years. >> You've never seen me naked but I really. am. And so I mean but that is I. understand that. I understand that we. all need that. >> We all need we Well, I think because. creativity has become like it became my. job and then it became like I have to. fight for this like so hard. I.

need like 30 minutes one time a week to. watch some ladies yell about their. Birkkins. Okay. The Birkens. Such an innocent shoe. or bag. It's. >> a bag. >> This is a fake Birkin. >> That's a fake Birkin. >> Oh, yeah. But you can't tell, right? >> South Korea. You could not. >> The minute you walked in, I was like. fake Birkin. And you know what?

Matt gave me the signal to cancel. >> He did. >> He gave me the let's cut this off. We. got fake Birkin in the house. And we. can't talk to you. You might you might. meet not the real Kesha. >> We actually switched that out with a. real Birkin. We weren't looking. Love. that. >> That's our prank show. >> Oh my god. Giving people real Birkens. Okay, I'll play. >> You know, um you had the moment, you. talk about these little cultural. moments. You knew you had made it. Uh. you said when the Simpsons switched out. >> the opening of their show because they.

always do a different opening. They did. an opening featuring Tik Tok. >> and you were like, "Okay." I. >> was like, "Fine, >> got it. >> I guess this is on." And I was like, and. then it was like wild style. It was just. like wild style. My life's been wild. style. >> Wild style. >> It's just the only way I can describe. >> So, are you willing to have like a. boring day that which I know you. mentioned you want to watch your Beverly. Hills housewives?

>> Yeah, that I. >> But but but are do you ever take a day. and just I don't know, you know, make a. make a some pasta, >> cake, >> a cake, bake a cake. Uh, paint a wall, you know, do some electrical repair. >> To be honest, no. This is like kind of a. problem. I have no chill. I have a. tattoo that says chill. It's a lie. I'm. not chill. >> That's why you got the tattoo is to try. and chill. Remind.

>> yourself. Just get more tattoos. >> Yeah. >> I have a tattoo that says stop talking. >> You do? >> You know, but I wish I had a tattoo. >> Well, it doesn't help. Um, no. I don't. understand. >> But what what about when you're at this. retreat? >> Okay. But then you're romping around. naked, chasing the butterflies and like. trumping up in the hills and then you go. in the art barn and then you go and you. like dance your traumas away and then. the medicine woman.

>> Are you still naked when this is all. happening? >> You like can be, but. >> I wasn't dancing naked. >> I agree with your I'm making little. little noises again. I'm the creep who's. peering in at Esselin. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm in a far away hill. with crazy big comically large. binoculars going I think I see cash. >> You're wearing like a sniper ghillie. suit. You know this. >> No, I'm not wearing a I'm wearing a. birding outfit. >> So it's you go and like you don't.

usually dance naked. You're usually just. naked in the hot springs. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Don't be weird about it, Conan. Don't be. weird about what? Dancing naked is. problematic. I'm I'm sure. You know. >> why? >> I don't know. Things could get caught in. the machinery. >> What? What machinery? >> There might be a thresher nearby. I don't know. I haven't thought this all. the way through. I assume they're out in. the woods and there's a threshing. machine. >> Your Irish cutlets are going to get. caught in the combine. >> I won't have my Irish cutlets thrashed.

in some thresher. Kesha, you've ruined. >> you've ruined this podcast forever. >> He short circuited after you said. chicha. >> I know you said chicha. And you know. what? Once that happened, >> let's not discount the jazz either. >> Are we writing these down? What do we. have now? >> We've got two counties. Well, I guess. two cheeses now for counting that one. >> One Irish cutlets and one beazzled. >> Count it. >> And you're both writing down. I'm going.

to keep these on clipboards. >> cuz I love having this. I love. consulting a clipboard. Hold on a. second. That's one be jazzled, two Irish. cutlets, a. You compared your nipples to spam. >> I want to write that one down. >> Well, if you saw them, you'd notice what. I'm talking about. Let's just say the. freckle is not the most erotic symbol. Um, you have had I'm telling you, you're a. very spiritual person.

>> What's this segue going to be? Let's go. Do it. Get it. Get it. >> Here's kind of like a cash pes. Don't. stop. Okay. Um, listen. I want control. of this. It's my job as the admiral of. this podcast to get under control. And. Kesha has ruined everything. Um, you are always fun. Always fun this. That's why you know what happened was we. I was doing something at South by.

Southwest. >> and someone came up to me and said. Kesha's here and was just to speak to. you and I hadn't run into you since I. think I saw you on the street and I said. I would love to see Kesha and then 5. minutes later you walked in and we had. this nice reunion and I said you've got. to come on the podcast please. >> and here we are. >> and here we are and it's a mess. >> It's a mess. >> That is what I should be. It is exactly. what it should be. You are a magical. You're a magical spirit from another.

land. >> Let's take a spiritual journey together. Tell me. >> You're a very spiritual person. You say. you've had spiritual encounters. Do you. believe in ghosts? >> I'm not a ghost person. I don't think. >> Are you kidding me right now? >> Well, I don't know about ghosts. >> I believe there are energies and. spirits, but I don't know about a ghost. >> Would you ever go ghost hunting? >> Yeah, I go ghost hunting. >> Okay. So, I did a TV show on Disney Plus. called Conjuring Cash where I went ghost. hunting, looking for aliens, looking for. Bigfoot. >> T is some happened. Didn't do a.

season 2. So, on the my tour this summer. on the day is off, >> I'm doing it myself. >> See, this is how you relax. It's not. making a cake. >> That is your chill. That's your chill. Your your chill is looking for Bigfoot. And. yeah. >> What about Loch Ness Monster? yeah. >> Chupacabra. But I don't know what that. is. What the Yeah, too. >> It's an Israeli appetizer. >> Um, >> but like, yes, that is how I relax.

>> Ghosts, though, specifically ones who. have passed on, you think are still. visiting us? >> 100%. Okay. So, I'm filming a show. I am. the exact producer filming the. cameraman. I forget what the camera's. called where it's like infrared where. you can see body heat. >> Eduardo, camera, Eduardo. >> Oh, sorry. I defer to Matt. Damn it. You're good. I'll have you see my. previous answer. >> A thermal, >> I think. Isn't it a thermal camera? Like. Predator. >> Just like that. Yeah. Okay. So, I'm. filming him. He's filming me. Day two,

Haunted Insane Asylum. They're with Big. Freda, Chip Coffee. We're bored. It's. like 4 in the morning and they're like. start like basically talking to the. demons. I'm like, "All right, where you. at?" Like, "You're not even here." Just. like. >> right condescend the demons, insult the. demons, which would bring a demon forth, I would think. And it did. And so then. on camera holding the camera, watched. this thing like crawl up Jake and crawl. into the ceiling. And it happened so. fast that I was like, "Jake, there's a. thing." And then that's how fast, right?

Filming it. >> Exact same time, he like throws down a. red camera, really expensive camera. I. was like, "Oh my god, there's something. crawling on me." Pulls his shirt up and. there's three scratch marks down his. spine. And Chip Coffee comes over and. throws holy water on it and then it. heals and I'm like, "What the is. this?". >> Who's Chip Coffee? That's the crulest name I've ever heard. And why isn't he a private detective? >> He might be. >> My name's Coffee. Chip Coffee. Uh, well,

okay. That's stunning. Do you have all. that on camera? >> Yes. And nobody cares. That's the. craziest part. >> Who cares? >> I'm like, nobody cares about these. ghosts I found. You're welcome. But I. found so many. Do you get creeped out in. a graveyard? Are you kind of happy. there? >> No, I'm so happy. Yeah, >> cuz I'm like almost there. >> Well, you know what? >> Oh my god. >> No, you're not. >> No, you're not. >> Trust me, I'm getting to the boneyard. long before you. I'll tell you and I'll.

come back and I'll tell you how it is. >> It's me. It's me. It's Conan. >> No, please. >> I'm not I'm in the afterlife and I'm. still not naked. All the other ghosts are letting things. flop around. >> Wait, where? How would you haunt? >> How would I haunt? Irritating. >> I would scare people, but I'd be I mean, I'm going to pass on and Gorly and Sona. are youngsters. They're going to be. happily living their lives and I'm going. to just be like, "Hey, what's going on? >> Doing bits.". >> Doing bits. I'm going to be doing bits.

and coming back and saying, "Wouldn't it. be funny if Yeah. And you you will get. an exorcist, but nothing scary will. happen. There'll be no cone vomiting or. head spinning. I'll put my hair up in a. bun and it'll just get knocked out. >> Whenever her hair is in a bun, I knock. it loose. >> Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, it's a lot. of like Yeah, >> it'll I'll do that. Or gorly, I'll. scratch your favorite He loves to listen. to old Kaiser tunes on his uh 45 player. I've got that jingle when they jingle. >> Got me. >> I don't He just He loves He just puts on.

old records and he wears a Sears sucker. suit. >> Oh my god. So cute. >> Yeah. Yeah, I do do this. I do do this. I'll be scratching. All your records. will be scratched. You know what. happens? >> Markets and I'm in a ukulele club and. >> same cute. >> I'm assigning him a personality over. time and soon it will become very happy. about it. >> Little things like he'll take things. that you have like organized and he'll. move them around just a little bit so. it'll infuriate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but the thing is the first person. I'm going to go to is Kesha. Okay. You.

better. >> That's like Yeah. I'm going to go to you. first. >> You better. >> Hey man, Jesus. And I'd be like, "I like. when you wear my merchandise. It looks so sexy. and I can monetize it.". What a what a weird ghost. You're going to, you know, I'll be the. first I'll be a ghost that has a. restraining order. Cash. 55 ft. Oh,

Um, well, I got to talk about this. You're going out on tour. It's the tits. out tour and I have got to join you on. stage and I got to let these cutlets. breathe. >> Yes. Let them out, baby. >> Uh, are you enjoying the live. performing? I bet I have a prediction. that you're enjoying it now maybe more. than ever because you've been through. everything. >> I am enjoying everything better now. It's weird when you like sign away the. rights to the one thing you do and have. dedicated your life to in perpetuity in.

the universe and then you get it back. >> Mhm. everything is different. I feel. like I'm living in hyperolor. I feel. like I'm also like healing in front of. the world at the same time, which is. like messy. >> Mhm. >> But I just had to make a conscious. choice like what do I believe? I believe. in being authentic. >> I believe it's my last lifetime. Like I. really do believe it. And so like. it. Let's go. And like now everything is.

so much more fun listening to I I. couldn't even listen to music for a long. time. I have not listened to some songs. that were like particularly unpleasant. for me. >> Y. >> and I like last week you would hate this. but I was like dancing around my room. naked. >> No no no I like it when you do it. >> Okay. Just not you. Okay. I want again I. just am there just as a sketch artist. >> but just like crying being like.

these are my children like I've turned. my back on my children and like I love. them and I want to play them and the. fans want to hear them and I can't wait. to see my fans and I'm free. There was. just a period of time when like I felt. so forgotten by the world. >> Mhm. like 10 years is a long time. And I was also like signed to the people. that were suing me. And so like by year. like nine, I was like, I feel so.

like nobody cares. >> Yeah. >> And it was so isolating and so. depressing. And then I get a phone call. Everything looks the same. Ring ring. In 3 months time, you will be. free. And I'm like, well, everything just flipped in that. minute. Like in that moment, I wrote 200. songs over the course of the next couple. of months. Like just there was like. color brought back into my life. >> And now I can't wait to tour. And I'm.

all the music that has negative. connotation. Everything is energy. So. yes, I believe in ghosts. We'll have to. circle back on that. But anyways, I'm taking. I didn't even die, but I'm a ghost. hanging around your house. doing sketches. >> You're alive and well. >> I'm alive and well. I'm here to serve. you with a ghost subpoena.

>> Oh, ghost subpoena. >> Um, yeah. So, uh I mean I am uh I am. genuinely very happy for you and it's. funny. I have this because I've been. doing this for so long and I encounter. people and then I see them at different. phases in their life and I'm I I have. this relationship sometimes and I've. said this to many people and and you fit. the bill as well where I'm rooting for. you because you came and you know helped. me out and gave of your talent on my.

show a long time ago and when. uh and and repeatedly and you were. always brought great energy And I. thought, I'm just so happy to reconnect. with you and this has been really funny. and fun and and filthy at times. >> I'm like a little psychotic. >> Yeah. But also, no. And also, I'm. learning some words here that I didn't. know. >> Oh, we love that. It's good you wrote. them down. >> Yeah, it is. It's good you wrote them. down.

>> What happens when this piece of paper's. found later on in my content? >> That's when the restraining. >> This laundry got sent back and the woman. who works there wants to talk to you. This was rolled up in your Hi. I have. Mr. O'Brien's grocery list. I'm. wondering if you could help me find some. of these. I understand Irish cutlets, but where are the chichas? >> I need two counties. >> I need two counties and uh a chicha, please, to go. Um well, I'm really happy. for you. The tits out tour. I'm going to. be there, man. I'm going to be there.

dancing on stage. No, no, that will hurt. you. That will hurt the numbers. >> You must No, no, no. Your fans will get. so mad when I dance out on tour in the. tits tour. >> They'll be so happy. >> Sona, talk some sense into Kesha. >> H They won't be happy. >> Um, your first independent album, period. This is under your own label, Kesha Records, July 4th, 2025. This is. your sixth studio album. I'm really. happy for you. And thank you so much for. bringing me that gorgeous guitar. I'm.

going to be playing that today and. tonight. And thank you. Uh, Conan merch. has never looked cooler. >> Oh, we'll have to take some hot pics and. drop it on the gram. >> Yes. Yes. I wish I knew what the gram. was picturing it being dropped on Graham. cracker. Kesha wants a photo on a Graham. cracker. Idiot. >> I know what the Graham is, he said, lying. Um, >> Kesha, thank you so much for being here. and for bringing your cool spirit. >> Thanks for always being the. best. Jeez, that.

>> gorly. Rick Rubin and Conan O'Brien. Like, you are one of the best men. >> Oh my god. That is the first and only. time anyone will clump you together with. Rick Rubin. I think my two favorite men. >> I'm going to try and get into a fender. bender with him. >> just so that we're named in court. together. I'm going to wait for Rick. Rubin to drive by and then just slam. into the back of his car. >> Conor Bryan struck Rick Rubin Sona. twice. He was driving his Nissan Sentra when he. was hit from behind by Conor O'Brien.

>> All right. Bless you, Kesha. Go forward. and do great works. >> Let's party. [Music]. >> Okay, we need to discuss something that. just happened moments ago. >> Um, and this has never happened before. uh on the podcast in five years. We took a break. We had just finished. interviewing Kesha. Wonderful time.

Really fun. Wonderful. She's so funny. and fun and uh it was revealing and cool. and all kinds of stuff. Then we take a. break. >> Um I remain here and start doodling on. my sketch pad. >> I remain here too. >> Uh but um. >> cuz I am Why don't you tell us what. happened, man? >> Just tell us. It's okay. No, it's really. embarrassing. It's not okay at all. >> I had to pee and I went to the bathroom.

and I opened the door. It wasn't locked. and Kesha was peeing in the bathroom. >> So, you walked in on Kesha while she was. urinating. >> and she screamed. >> She screamed. >> But she did the cutest little. like this like an ewok or something. And. I She was very nice about it. And I. truly didn't mean to. It just. >> You said you truly didn't mean to. But I. would like to point out that just as you. got up from the table, you looked at me.

and you said, "Time to watch Kesha. Ping.". >> And stormed out of the room and I said, "No, >> no, you did not say that." And this is. for court records. You did not say such. a thing. >> Can Can I say something? The door was. closed and you didn't think about like. knocking. >> Here's the thing. The door was not. locked and there are two doors in that. restroom. There's the door and. immediately to the left there's another. door. So, I just anytime I've ever used. that restroom, it's always locked if.

it's being occupied. So, I just wasn't. used to it. >> You are you are you suggesting that I. did that on purpose? I didn't even know. she was in there. >> I don't know. It's not proper bathroom. etiquette. If the door is closed, you. knock. >> I'm totally with Sona on this. I'm a. knocker. I always I always knock. Uh I. find. >> I just certainly will from here on out. I can tell you that much. Oh my god. >> But I mean, >> unless it's Cesa. >> Yeah, it was. We heard shrieking. >> Yeah. >> Um, you came running back in, face beat.

red. >> Uh, the We have a whole bunch of people. out there who were watching the podcast. They find out what happened. They're. screaming. >> I mean, it really did sound like a house. of murder. >> Yeah, >> it did. Well, and also, I have to admit, cuz I think it's a very awkward. situation for everybody. You came in. here, you're like, I just walked in on. Kesha and then we could have just you. could have ignored it, but you went out. there and you apologized. >> Well, I thought that was a nice thing to. do. >> No, I think it's nice, but it also I. don't know. Does that make somebody more.

uncomfortable or more embarrassed? >> Can I also explain one other thing? I. was right on the heels of Eduardo. saying, "Let me just go pee really. quickly." I didn't know which one he was. in. I thought because this one was. unlocked, he was not in. >> he was trying to come. >> Yeah, maybe. >> Yeah. Yeah, in his defense, he was. trying to watch Eduardo urinate and. accidentally walked in on uh in Sexy. Kesha. Uh so I wait there and and just. to to let people know here, there are. two bathrooms. There's one right next to.

our studio and then there's one that uh. is kind of further on down the hall. And. so you didn't use the one right next to. the studio. >> It was It was used. It was in It was. >> How did you know it was used? Cuz the. door was shut. >> I thought. >> Yeah. Why didn't you walk in on that. one? >> Because I thought Eduardo went into that. one and I thought no one else is in this. other one cuz I knew he went into that. one. >> I don't know. There's a lot of. assumptions here. >> A lot of assumptions here. There's also. there's also Can floor. The second. bathroom is labeled pop star. And the first bathroom is labeled uh.

peons that work here uh at the show. That's an unfortunate pun. >> Yeah, it is. And and no pun intended. And then my bathroom is uh is called. Comedic Icon and that's on the top. floor. >> I just I just want to refresh us to the. interview prior to this where you spent. a good five minutes talking about how. you wanted to dress like a urinal and. have women pee on you. So. >> no no no that's okay. That was perving. on cash while she was at the right.

>> No, no, no, no, no, no. First of all, this whole thing about me dressing as a. urinal wouldn't work on women. That's a. flawed concept. So I know you're lying. Oh, that is. >> I know you're lying. >> Oh, well, dressed as a urinal and ent. trap women. >> Uh, slight flaw with your plan there, Gorly, that you're trying to assign to. me. Clearly, you've thought this out, and I've found your sketches and I've. seen what you've done. Um, anyway, I. want to assure all of our guests that. from now on, Matt Gorley is going to. knock. >> I Yes, agreed.

>> And um, and a good idea maybe to lock. the bathroom door when Gorly's on the. property. when the mad peeper when the. mad peeper's here uh let's lock things. up. >> you know can can I ask a question so uh. you know we are on the second floor. Conan your office and uh your own. personal bathroom is on the third floor. >> it's not my personal bathroom because I. share it with Adam Sachs Jeff Rosson uh. anyone else who wants to go up there. >> well that's my question is should we so. this doesn't happen again should we. assign Gorly a bathroom this is the only.

bathroom you're allowed to use I'm not. like a sex offender I know we should. Well, first of all, we want to learn. from our mistakes. >> You know what? We should learn from our. mistakes. First of all, I think Gorley. should wear an ankle bracelet for a year. >> and he has to go to every pop star in LA. >> and tell them. >> and knock on their door and tell them if. if you're urinating in a bathroom near. me, I may try and peek in on you. Yeah. >> So, that's rule number one. Rule number. two is we should get one of those uh. outdoor bathrooms and we should put it. in our little yard and that should be.

just for gory. >> Oh, like a portaotty. Like an outhouse. >> Little outhouse portaotty. Oh, you like. oldtimey things. We'll get you an old. >> Wait, no. I have a solution. I quit. >> Okay. >> Hey, a little win-winwin. A little. gorilla potty. A goraotty. >> We did it. >> Um, listen. Uh, you can write up rap all. you want on a piece of paper. >> But you just wrote rap. >> Um, oh my god. >> Listen, it was an accident. Accidents. happen. And uh. >> I will say if if you're going to walk in.

on someone, I feel like Kesh is a good. person to walk in on it. She's a very. like very cool. >> Yeah. I walked in four times on. Alpuccino. Yeah. And he was like, "Get. the hell out of here. What are you doing? It's the fourth." Hey, he said, "I. understand." One time it was the fourth. time. And I said, "Hey, it's taken you a. long time to pee, Mr. Pacino." What do. you want? I'm 94. I've also played Jim on taxi.

>> All right, peace out. Love you, Kesha. Bye. >> Oh my god.