Josh Safdie (FULL EPISODE) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

Hi, my name is Josh Safdie and I feel. like a liar saying that I feel anything. about being Conan O'Brien. >> [laughter]. >> Hey there, welcome to Conan O'Brien. Needs a Friend. I'm the aforementioned. Conan, joined by Sona Movsesian, Matt. Gourley. How we doing, gang? What's. happening? Good. Good. Good. Good in the. hood. >> What's the mood? What's the mood today? >> Mood's pretty good, I'd say. Yeah? Yeah. No, am I wrong? No, I'm feeling good.

>> I'm just I I like to get the vibe in the. room. I like to match uh the temperature. and I wasn't sure today. I was you all. seem pretty happy, right? >> Yeah. I wish I ate more. What do you. mean? I just didn't eat a proper meal. before and then we're recording. It's. like almost 2:00 and I'm I'm hungry. >> What what is a proper meal for you? What. would that be? What did you have for. breakfast? >> food in front of me. >> What did you have for breakfast? >> I didn't have breakfast. >> eat breakfast? >> problem. >> Okay. All the years that Sona was my. assistant, I lived in fear of her not.

getting. uh her sustenance. >> Because her mood would go. >> No, no, you would be you would become. the Tasmanian Devil. You really would if. you didn't get your food. And another. person who does that is my wife. Okay. >> My wife. I learned when we were early on going. out, she would say um. hmm. Getting a little hungry. What are you. thinking about lunch? And I would think. Yeah, yeah, we could do lunch. I learned.

that I need to act on that first warning. sign because she's a lithium battery. She goes from having a charge to having. no charge instantly. Yeah. And so then. it would go downhill very quickly. Yeah. >> And so and you're the same way, Sona. I. am. I pack snacks for my kids all the. time, but then I'll eat them because if. I don't eat But also You know, can I say. something else? Your kids are. malnourished. >> Yeah, they are. They're not eating. >> eating their snacks. >> It's like the oxygen mask in an airplane.

where you got to take care of yourself. first. Yeah. Okay. >> But Liza can live off of like an almond. I need like a whole. pheasant. >> [laughter]. >> What? What? It is true. Like a. rotisserie chicken. >> No, she would. >> [laughter]. >> I can't tell you how many times. on the Warner Brothers lot, Sona was. screaming at the commissary people, "I. want my pheasant.". >> [laughter]. >> Remember and then we got you a crown and. a king's robe? Remember that? >> and [laughter] a throne. Yeah, I.

remember. "I WANT MY PHEASANT!". "WHERE'S MY HUSBAND'S PEPPER?". SO, uh. >> [laughter]. >> so you didn't get enough food. >> I need to eat something after this. I. saw you eating potato chips before just. before we recorded. >> I. I know. I've been snacking. >> [laughter]. >> I understand. >> an accusation. >> felt like you were accusing me of saying. you ate chips, so you're fine. >> No, I'm not because there's no nutrition. in Oh, wait, they were pheasant chips. They were. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. Now it said now with 80% more. pheasant, so I don't know why you're.

bitching. >> meal. I need something warm that was. cooked and I need it in my body. Like I. need I need a lot of. >> after this then? Are you going to go. straight to a restaurant just by. yourself in a corner table? >> I might. I need to eat. >> [laughter]. >> You all both need to eat. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah, I need to eat. something that gives you more. intelligence. >> [laughter]. >> Ooh, walnuts. >> Not just brain food, but food that. actually is made of brain and gives you. brain. Did you say walnuts? >> Yeah. Walnuts make you smarter? Brain.

food. Semen too. Walnuts make you smarter. Walnuts make you smarter. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Some people too. It's good for your. semen. What? What Wait. Wait. Okay, you. and I are coming at this from different. angles. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. [laughter] You I'm pointing the finger. at you, Sona. What do you mean it's good. for your semen? What are you talking. about? >> I like, you know, when you want to make. a baby, you eat a lot of wal- walnuts. No? Nobody? Tell me about it. >> Uh wait, are you talking about it's good. for your semen meaning that it makes. better semen? I don't I don't know what.

it does. I just know if you want if you. want to make a baby Here we go. Here we. go. According to the internet, it. improves motility. >> HELLO! HELLO! You're screaming at me. And morphology. Come Yeah, come to me. for semen advice. Well, okay. It's come. to me for advice. [laughter] Jesus. Christ, Sona. It's good if you want to. make a baby. Low motility. >> Aren't there foods that affect the taste. of semen? Well, I think is that a myth? Pine- They say pineapple, right? Is. supposed to help it taste better.

I mean, I I say that. >> [laughter]. >> I. Can I just say something? I can't taste. the difference. I can't. I've had I [laughter] ate tons. of pineapple. And then I'm like, "I got TO GET ANY. PINEAPPLE HERE?" WAIT, YOU'RE DRINKING. YOUR OWN SEMEN? OF COURSE. I'M NOT GOING. TO EAT SOMEONE ELSE'S JUNK. >> AND YOU WANT Airwon to make a smoothie. with your name [laughter] on it. >> Yes. Oh, no. Yeah. I'm not going to. Someone else's semen? THAT'S DISGUSTING. >> [laughter]. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK I DO ALL THOSE BACK. EXERCISES? [screaming] Such a. narcissist. You will only drink your own.

semen. Constantly doing yoga and I'M. LIKE, "I'M ALMOST THERE!". UH ANYWAY, NO, I'VE HAD so much. PINEAPPLE AND NOTHING. >> [laughter]. >> I HAVE NEVER held up a rap sign more. Well, listen. I think it's time to talk. to an iconic filmmaker. >> [laughter]. >> Every publicist right now is taking us. off the list. My guest today is a filmmaker known for. such movies as Uncut Gems and Good Time. His latest film, Uncut Gems, is already.

getting just insane Oscar buzz. It's. everywhere. >> I'm sorry to interrupt, but when I go. home, I have to log these things into a. spreadsheet what each thing is about. And we do like Eduardo and I will put in. a small description like Sona talked. about being hungry, but this one's going. to be Conan drinks own jizz. Yeah. [laughter]. Post pineapple binge. >> Okay. Continue. >> But you know, not for no reason. All. right. I'm thrilled HE'S HERE TODAY. >> [laughter]. >> JOSH SAFDIE, WELCOME.

I think you and I are friends now. I. think so, too. Yes. You know why? Through Sandler. Anyone. who you know through Sandler, you feel. like you're a friend. >> The best. >> [laughter]. >> You know, I my favorite observation. about Sandler, and this is in the last. couple of years, is he always says the. best. I'll bring up anyone. So, let's. say I see Sandler in half an hour. um at the store where they sell overly. long gym shorts. >> [laughter]. >> uh. for middle-aged men um.

and I say to him, "Hey, I just I just. Only middle-aged men. >> [laughter]. >> It is such a long marquee. It's a. They card you when you go in. >> [laughter]. >> But it's actually I see Sandler and I'll. be like, "Oh, I know I know. What are. you doing, buddy? What are you doing?". "Oh, I just saw JOSH AT THE BEST!" AND. [laughter] THEN I CAN GO, "OKAY." And. then 20 minutes later I can say, "Oh my. god, I I I by the way, I was I was just. at a restaurant and I had a REUBEN. SANDWICH. THE BEST!". >> [laughter]. >> AND HE KEEPS SAYING THE best down to the.

point where you're like, "Yeah, then I. was in New York and I I actually. I I took the Lexington AVENUE OH, THE. [screaming] BEST!". >> [laughter]. >> THE BEST! HE ONCE SAID it to me. HE SAID. ONCE to me, I was like, "I'm going to go. to the bathroom." He goes, "The best.". >> [laughter]. >> And I understood it though. It was real. I was like, "Yeah, it is." It is the. best. You have that pressure feeling. in your bladder and then you don't. [laughter]. Then you don't. It's the best. It is the. best. My My wife has to text me. throughout the day saying go to the.

bathroom. I'll pee when I wake up and. then I go to sleep. Is that right? >> Okay. Yeah, it's unfortunate. So, that's. why when I talked to Sandler, I was. like, "I'm going to the bathroom." He. was saying the best. Like I'm doing it. Yeah, I'm doing [laughter] it. But he says it all the time. >> But he'll There's variations. The best. >> Yeah. The best. The best. >> The best. But I love that he would even. say it about like, "Yeah, you know, I. I think um. you Well, apparently the the wife, the. way she killed her husband is she used. she USED STRYCHNINE. THE BEST! >> [laughter].

>> WHAT? INSTANT. No trace. Doesn't show up in THE BLOOD. THE BEST! >> [laughter]. >> WAIT, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT toxins that. kill you? The best! >> [laughter]. >> But uh okay. >> you Cony. He Cony. He calls me Cony. He's the only one that can. And um you. know, we. >> I accidentally said it to someone. They're like, "What are you doing?" I. was like, "Well, I'm going to go see. Cony.". >> [laughter]. >> They're like, "Who the are you talking about?". Cony 2012. Is Cony like a 7-year-old boy? >> [laughter]. >> Also, we live in the same neighborhood.

and I have been driving through my. neighborhood and seen. what looks like 1975 Stevie Nicks. walking down the street covered in. different colored garments. And I look closer and it's Sandler where. there's I'm God bless him. He doesn't. try to match any clothing. You know, it's just it looks like a handkerchief. store blew up near him and everything. got glued to his body and it's every. single color you can imagine.

Unbelievable. pull up and I'll be like, "You know, hey, Adam, it's me." I'll. lower the window. "It's me, CONY." "OH, THE BEST!". >> [laughter]. >> UM HE GOT PULLED into a when I was once. I was once with him in uh he got pulled. into like a some sort of high-end retail. store because someone you know, he's the. nicest guy. So, someone's like, "Oh man, I'm a fan." He's like, "Let's take a. picture." And they invited him into the. store. He's like, "I'd love to show you. my my clothing." I'm Sandler in a. high-end retail store is not does not. make sense. >> [laughter]. >> So, he said I was like, "What was going. on in your head?" He's like, "I was. counting the hangers.".

>> [laughter]. >> You know, at some point I had to just. stop counting. I did 20. Very nice stuff. you have here. You got good stuff. Buddy, you got good stuff. I got to go. I got to go. Well, I also love he will. come by my house and he'll unlike other. people like in LA, you call ahead. No. one just drops in. Sandler will be outside THE GATE GOING, "CONY! CONY!" [screaming]. AND THEN YOU LET HIM IN AND he's like, "Oh, buddy, buddy." And I say, "Hey, sit. down." And then within maybe 2 minutes.

he'll say, cuz one time he brought his. daughters with him. He was He was in my. house for like 5 minutes. We watched. part of a football game and he went, "All right, I got to go. I got to go, buddy.". He barely sat down and then he starts. charging out and he's shouting up THE. STAIRS, "COME ON, GIRLS, LET'S GO. LET'S. GO." AND HE SAID, "WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE. NOT WANTED.". >> [laughter]. >> ALL I DID WAS SAY, "WOULD YOU LIKE A. LEMONADE? Would you. You know, let's get out of here." He. moves He moves He moves fast. >> He moves fast, but we are not here to. eulogize Adam Sandler. He's alive and.

well and we love him. >> Yes, the best. >> The best. >> [laughter]. >> We are here. and I want to start with this and then. we'll talk about other things and then. we'll get back to it. But your movie. Uh-huh. Marty Supreme Yeah. is a. juggernaut of delight. It is a just love. that movie. I have watched a lot of. movies Oscar movies because I got to. host that thing. I mean, movies that are. going to are getting award you know,

getting up for awards. >> Thank god you're a host. You're a great. You know what? I was telling Marisa, you. know, you you could be the you if you. were the host of a Denny's, I'd go to. that Denny's every day. >> Oh, thank you. Every day. >> that might be more appropriate. >> [laughter]. >> If this year goes well, it's on to. Denny's. Um you know, and but I I I. >> [laughter]. >> I saw. So, I saw your movie with my friend. Rodman Flender and he said, "Oh, let's. go to a DGA screening." I happen to be. in New York. >> Yeah. Um I knew nothing about the film.

I'm a big Timothy So, you were at that. DGA screening. >> I just went to a DGA screening and I sat. and the movie begins and it was a party. It was just like the crowd It was one of. those things that you dream about where. the laughs are all there, the the highs, the lows and from the moment that movie. begins, I I was in all the way.

>> and. it was just an absolute pure delight and. so I'm so happy you're here because no. spoilers, but I want to talk about this. movie. This movie is a major achievement. and I hope I mean, I know I know you're. getting a lot of love, but I mean. >> love from the people who you look up to. and respect is different. It's just. different. But it means a lot and also. weirdly weirdly I was saying someone was. asking me cuz Abel Ferrara who's in the.

film. who I've been a huge fan of and I knew. him when he was not a sober person and I. know you did, too. And one of the best. Conan interviews is the Abel Ferrara. Conan interview because it is. it is like yoga, man. You are. stretching. You are doing It was. unhinged and I'll tell you You know, sometimes there are movies about show. business and in movies about show. business like uh you know, My Favorite. Year um there's just improbable crazy.

things that happen. People get on stage. seconds after they fix the broken set. and the curtain comes up like a second. before. Uh Abel Ferrara was on the old Late. Night Show and. he he was this legendary director and. persona and not long before he was going. to come out. He was not the first guest. He may have been the second guest. >> was the first one. >> Okay, Dennis Leary was the first guest. and Abel Ferrara is going to come out. and while I'm out during doing the.

monologue or maybe even talking to. Dennis Leary as the first guest, Abel. Ferrara who's in his dressing room runs. away. >> [laughter]. >> Gets to the elevator bank at Late Night. on Rockefeller Center, hits the button, gets on the elevator and disappears. I'm and he's the next guest up and you. know, and I didn't know anything about. this, but god bless him, Frank Smiley. who's been one of my my segment producer. forever. and did every single Late Night Show and. was a major major force behind the show.

He takes off. Wow. Gets another. elevator, goes down and then runs out. onto the street and does that thing in. movies [clears throat] where you look. right, you look [laughter] left and then. he just gets a glimpse of of Abel. Ferrara like a leather jacket and that. saunter and he takes off and Abel. Ferrara goes into a bar and starts. ordering. and Frank goes in and has to drag Abel. Ferrara back, convince him, cajole him, physically pull him, gets him back. They. take the elevator up and he gets him.

back on his mark backstage as I'm. saying, ladies and gentlemen, Abel. Ferrara. >> Then he runs out and you didn't know any. of that? I didn't know anything cuz how. could I? You're You're on the stage. >> Yeah, and I'm. and I'm just you know, in full host mode. and then. he's he comes out and if you ever want. to look up that interview, it's. Abel Ferrara Conan O'Brien on the on the. Late Night Show and it is me talking to. a wild animal and [laughter] and he. is a I think a big part of Marty Supreme.

which we will which we will talk about. >> part of the interview though is how. quickly Dennis Leary abandons any sort. of allegiance he has to you. >> [laughter]. >> And you would think the two of you you. kind of would be connected and bonded. >> Irish guys. >> Yeah, he's like, all right, this is my. He goes right. Maybe he wanted a part. I. don't know what it was, but he went. right to Abel's Abel doesn't smoke. cigarettes. He takes a cigarette. He's. talking to Dennis. He's you know, Abel. Ferrara asked me once to do a Q&A with. him and I've watched him do Q&A's and. his thing particularly when he was not a.

sober person was to throw the moderator. under the bus instantly and just take it. to the audience and then just make fun. of the moderator and he did that to you. >> Yeah. He did that to you and I but he's. he's you know, I think you said. something about like Stallone subtitles. at some point and he is just like, >> [laughter]. >> "No, what does that mean? What does this. mean?" Yeah, yeah, yeah. He would ask me. every take he would say to me. he would say I'd tell him you know, what. with the scene was and you know, whatever we had all these amazing. conversations through WhatsApp cuz he. lives in Rome and he said he he's he was.

like, "All right, you do it." I'm like, "I'll do it?" Yeah, he's like, "You do. the scene and I'll watch I'll know I'll. watch you how to you do it and then I'll. know how to do it. >> Something no actor wants. No. [laughter]. And then he and then he said, "So, I did it, but I'm doing the scene. as if I'm Abel Ferrara." So, and I'm. like doing like the I'm talking and he. goes, "You're doing me doing the scene.". I was like, >> [laughter]. >> "That's what's going to happen. You know. what I mean? That's eventually what's. happening." So, yeah, that's exactly. what I'm going to do. He's His book is. really good. He's sober He's been sober. 13 years and his book is good.

>> Good for him. I'm glad And I worked with. him on my first film. It was that. situation. Each take he'd just walk away. wearing the lavalier microphone, go to a. bar Yeah. pound a beer and then put the. beers inside of his jacket, do the scene. with Ronnie who's the lead of the movie, Mary's husband. >> Yep. and who I wrote the movie with and. then Ronnie Ronnie would do the scene. with him. They never had one word. outside of the actual scene with. exchange each other and then for years. Abel would introduce me to people as his. director cuz I don't think he remembered. my name. I don't think he remembered my name. I love him. He's a very special guy and.

that interview with you is like one of. the great Conan flailing interviews. >> Yeah, no, it's And you know what Lorne. Michaels said to me once? He said, "Conan, people like to watch you work.". Which is and I realized he was right. People like to watch me. squirm, contort myself both my soul and. my physical body in order to kind of. make something work and he said they. they like to watch you work. >> [laughter]. >> And I said, "Well, I don't like. I like it when it's really easy.". >> Yeah, yeah.

I'm going to get us talking about Marty. Supreme which is getting all kinds of. love. >> because I'm getting. I have a 3-year-old and she's probably. trying to FaceTime me. It's all good. Yeah, your priorities are correct. Let. me turn this off right now. Quiet to the. 3-year-old. Shut up, Minnie. [laughter]. You're talking. Minnie, I'm talking to Conan O'Brien. right now. You have no idea what this. means to me.

>> [laughter]. >> Um I have so many questions about this. movie and then the first of all is. I don't think this movie could be made. without Timothy. Right. Timothy is this. nuclear. force at the center of the movie that. needs to propel it. >> Mhm. And I know that you usually are. thinking about who this movie has to be. for. I know that you and your brother when. you were thinking about. >> Sandler Uncut Gems.

it had to be Sandler and it had to be. Sandler to the degree that you wrote it. for Sandler in 2011. He passes. He. passes again in 2015. >> Sandy passed a bunch. That's what Sandy. kept saying. >> Sandy Wernick. [laughter] Yeah. Sandy. Wernick his his long time and I love. you, Sandy. >> Yeah. Oh my god. But Sandy Wernick just. kept getting this goofy script and I. think not even showing it to Adam. >> Definitely not. But then you guys kept. at it. You didn't cast anybody else. In.

2017 you get Adam to say yes and I think. it has been such a wonderful thing for. Adam. Yeah. Because after that movie. I mean those of us who know Adam saw. that he was a real dramatic actor long. before Uncut Gems, but you guys. put him dead center in the crosshairs. and gave him this. acting challenge and he killed it. Yeah. And that is you guys, that's Adam, but I.

know that. that whole process of doing Uncut Gems. took you 10 years. >> 10 years, yeah. 10 years. Unbelievable. >> was six. >> Yeah. My wife's like, you got to figure. it out. >> [laughter]. >> Can't do it that way. >> Yeah, yeah. Uh but I. >> so so. >> But Sandler, you know what's interesting. is like, okay, so I did the then I did. the special with Sandler. Love you. And. he makes you cry. Sandler can make you. cry. He he I just just telling him in. the clip that I saw from Jay Kelly, he's.

such a big golden retriever or not of. the mastiff. He's more like a mastiff. Big mastiff who's like, you know, I don't even like. I don't even want to say out loud some. of the things I feel about him cuz I'm. very for me he's I'm very emotional. about him. And I think most people who. are close with him do get that way. because he is very open. He's like a. very mushy mushy person. I love that. word mushy. He's very mushy. Mushy mushy. gushy. And mushy tushy. So that So I say to my.

daughter, I turned into a. three-year-old. I say all the time I'm. like mushy tushy. Everything is tushy. with my daughter. >> [laughter]. >> She's like you got it right. That's it. I'll like literally just turn to my. daughter and then every once in a while. I'm like, "Minnie, how guess what?" She. goes, "Tushy." And I was like, "Tushy.". >> [laughter]. >> Anyway, Sandler's. Sandler's a Why do we have to evolve? >> don't. We don't. I didn't You got to be. forever young. Yeah, I had that Jack. Fisk is my production designer, one of. the greatest of all time. He's just. turned 80 or 79 or something. And he. worked with the best and he grew up with. David Lynch and he's did some amazing. movies, There Will Be Blood and.

Mulholland Drive and Badlands, he met. his wife Spacek on. And he is. probably the youngest person I've ever. really gotten to know. Like he's like an. 8-year-old. And like we're texting at. 3:00 4:00 in the morning. and I just felt so I felt young with. him. >> Yeah. So So you just stay tushy. You. just got to say tushy all the time. Tushy mushy tushy. Mushy tushy. But. Sandler, when I was making Gems and you. know, spoiler alert to anyone who hasn't. seen it, he dies at the end of the. movie. And the entire film for me was. watching somebody who's so alive all the.

time and knowing that he dies, I would. well up and cry throughout the movie. Right. And he was like, "What's going on. with you?" And I was like, "I know I. have I have issues.". But I but I really would um It's so. funny that you had the power to keep him. alive. >> [laughter]. >> I could have. No, he had to die. Not. only that, but you essentially killed. him. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's weird. And. then and This is I'm all broken up. Why? I'm going to murder you Sandler. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, it just breaks my heart. >> is but he is but he is also the best.

Yeah. He's he's also so like to me that. he is that like. alive electric character who is like. constantly looking to just disappear at. any moment. Just connect with somebody. And he's a has he's anxious. He's a very. anxious person. His early stand-up where. he's talking pretending to be things in. the refrigerator. >> Yeah. You know what I mean? He is. He His humor is very unique. I grew up. loving those albums so much so much. to the point when I'm meeting people who. appear on the albums, I'm like.

starstruck. And so so I you know, felt. like I knew him on some level. So when I. wrote it for him, I also knew that he. had he has this rage in him, which he. does. That's real. That's not, you know, I mean it's obviously those who know him. he can get he can have an outburst, but. they're loving and immediately he can go. back to being mushy tushy. But he's. still like he's still Sandler and and. he's the Sandman. People How many people. do you know in your life you can just. call them that? Like their nickname I knew like six.

>> [laughter]. >> Sandman So so I I worked at a sand. company for a while. I did. They just they manufacture high. grain sand. >> knew no one's name, so you just called. everyone Sandman. >> [laughter]. >> And half of them's name when I found out. was Sandman. So you know, but you know what's. interesting to me. >> name was Sandman. Yeah, the last Jews. >> [laughter]. >> I'm wish Sandman. Yeah, I'm Superman. >> [laughter]. >> Spiderman. Yeah.

>> [laughter]. >> That's what I would say. I would say. Marty is like he's like Spiderman. He's. Marty Spiderman. You know. Well, he is I. mean here's the thing. >> did write it for Timmy. I did. I wrote. it for my met him before I really knew. him as an actor. And this kid that I. met, you know, I would go I was at the a. premiere for one of our movies. Agent comes up to me. Agents at a party. and they're like, "Oh, wouldn't you say. he's the next superstar?" It's pretty. innocuous. You hear that all the time. Everyone's the next superstar. So I'm. skeptical and I go and I meet this kid. and he's in the corner of the room and. he's with his buddy. And he was there,

but he wasn't like there. He wasn't. where he wanted to be and he had he was. like he couldn't stand still. He was. like coming out of his own skin and he. had these really big dreaming eyes. And. then I then I went to go see a movie I. call me by your name like four months. later. And he could that movie could. have been like kind of a small film, you. know, and he just through his acting. through his performance expanded the. walls of this movie, made it a huge. movie. And and I watched him on stage. afterwards. He just turns in this like. super serious star forming performance. And then he's doing being interviewed at.

the New York Film Festival, 1,200. people, and he's rocking back on his. chair, which I do all the time, uncontrollably. And he fell. He fell. down on his ass. I went on to his back. Could have been very embarrassing, but. every single person in that room laughed. and we laughed like we were his guest. And that was so like cuz we felt so. intimate to him. So I wrote it for. I said to him I was like, "I want that. person to be this part.". >> Well, so it's interesting to me about. this. about this movie. It's watching it and. there's a there's a bunch of things that. struck me,

but one. reminded me a little bit of Frank Capra. Frank Capra used to make the most of. small small characters. So yeah, okay, you're you're watching Jimmy Stewart or. whatever, but then he goes in just to. buy a newspaper and the guy who sells. him the newspaper is memorable. Maybe. has one line, but is memorable. That is. usually not done anymore. And Marty. Supreme. I watched it and I turned to.

my friend Rodman afterwards and I went, "Those faces. All the faces of. everybody. People that are in that. dreary hotel where Abel Ferrara lives.". >> yeah. Um anytime there's a face in the. crowd who and and the camera's on them. for a second, their face is fascinating. His faces loom out at you. And they're absolutely incredible. And I. was thinking about all the supporting. players. I mean how we cast every single. person. >> Sandra Bernhard, Isaac Mizrahi, Abel.

Ferrara, Tyler the Creator, Kevin. O'Leary from Shark Tank. [laughter] And. and you know, you have yeah, okay, Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah, but that's not a. shock that Gwyneth Paltrow was in a. great movie, but She hadn't acted in a. while. Yeah, but but to see Kevin. O'Leary. and and say, "Yeah, the guy from Shark. Tank. He should have a major part in. this." And then have it work perfectly. I love the fearlessness with which you. guys say,

"Wait a minute. That's the face. That's. the person." And I think you're seeing. something in them that you think is as. you said, it's all a documentary. This is this Marty Supreme movie is. based on a guy It's loosely very very. loosely. Very very loosely. Inspired by. Inspired by, but it's a completely. fictitious tale. And then what you guys. do, what you've done is you've extracted the. essence of these people somehow and.

they're the they're perfect in those. moments. >> Yeah. I always when I meet somebody I'm. just I want to see the best in them, you. know, and I and. and I'm I am admire people who are. centered. Like people who are kind of. they're invisible to themselves because. I. I'm not. But I but I do I I I admire. people who are I like iconic. They're. iconically them. There's a guy in the. movie who plays Abel's like side his. friend. Yeah. Who. who's also in Uncut Gems and his name is.

Mitchell Wenig. And he met him in a. diner in 2007 or something and I always. wanted to put him in something and Benny. and I put him in a short and then we put. him in Gems. And I stay in touch with. him. He shows up in the Sandler special. And he's a his job he worked for HUD, the the housing department in New York. City. And then he. I've his hobby is he's an autograph. collector. This guy is in the movie. And I saw him hovering and waiting. outside Gwyneth's trailer. My [laughter]. God. With a folder.

and glossy images of her from Emma. And. I said, "Mitchell, what are you doing?". He [laughter] goes, "You think you think. it's inappropriate?" I said, "You're a. co-star.". You don't You want me to get you an. autograph?" He's like, "No, I really. want to be the one to get it cuz there's. a specific place where she has to sign.". >> Yes. And what I love about but what I. love about him he doesn't sell. So he's. different from the guys you. who are selling stuff nonstop and making. sure he's here and there. He and he was, you know, good friends with Johnny. Anyway, he is I love being around him. I.

genuinely like, you know, every his. point of view on life. I find it so. refreshing everything he has to say. And. [snorts] I am, you know, moved by people. who are iconically themselves. So how do. I get it? How do I do it? What is I I. mean I just I don't know. I just see. somebody and I see them for their. essence and and I believe that if you. know someone really well, these. interviews help and getting to know them. and making them feel comfortable. That's. like so much of directing is just making.

people feel I mean that's you had to do. still have to do it. And and and then they can get into a. space where. they can be. without say how starting to sound like. evil manipulated, but they can be But. that is your job to manipulate them. >> can be led into situations. Right. And. then having someone like Timmy, I can. actually work with him through him. sometimes. And I don't put marks down on. the floor or anything and and Darius, my. cinematographer, is like master lighter, spends three hours. He's like, "No, they.

have to stand right here." I was like, "Not if they don't want to, Darius." And. I was like, "No, trust me." He's like, "They they have to. I won't be lit up. they're over here." I was like, "Then. they're not lit." Then they're not lit. over there and they're standing there, but I'll get them there. And more or. less the blocking that I have, I. generally know how this person's going. to move and they will most likely land. in that pool of light, but if they. don't, it actually helps add, I think, a. little bit of. um realism to the movie because things. aren't so perfect. >> Did you recognize the guy in the cage. who's with George Gervin, who's the. great Iceman from the Spurs? There's a.

guy who works in the cage, he's kind of. like the I guess the greeter, he's the. voice of of the ping pong parlor. Uh-huh. He was There was a viral video. in 2007 of this man on the side of the. highway, he was homeless, and he had a. sign, and the guy said, "All right, I'll. give you a dollar if you use that. magical voice that you claim to have.". >> Oh, yes, yes, yes. This is welcome to. 7-Eleven. >> remember that. He's famous. So it was. like a early viral sensation, yeah. Then. he became the man with the golden voice, and then he fell on some hard times, and. Good Morning America called him the man.

with the so-called golden voice. He. still had the golden voice, but I don't. know why all of a sudden it was. so-called. And I loved him. I found him. to be so special and warm, and, you. know, uh um uh uh and the voice, too. When you cast somebody, you're also. casting a voice. Which is interesting. Like I put Marianne from Brooklyn from. the Stern Show. She's the first person. you see in the movie. Yeah. And her. voice What's great about Marianne from. Brooklyn is is she's so beautiful, but. you hear this voice all and they put the. crow sound all the time. Fred's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But her voice, I find the voice to be. beautiful, and then you see her and. she's beautiful, and then you cast her. and she's the first face that you see, but you hear her first. Anyway, so I'm. casting all of. >> here's the scenario here's but what I'm. saying is here's the scenario that. >> no, but what I'm saying is the scenario. that fascinates me is. in this world now, post Marty Supreme. and Gems, you know, you're going to have. so many big actors, they're going to be. approaching you and saying, "Oh, you. know, come on, Josh, I'd be great for. this. I'd be really good for this." And, you know, it's it's Matt Damon, it's Ben.

Affleck, and they're being, "Yeah, yeah, and I'd be great for it, too." And then. you have to tell them, "Guys, it's not. you." "Well, who is it? Who do we lose. it to? You know, do we lose Who do we. lose it to?" "You lost it to the guy who. came to fix the toilet 40 minutes ago. >> [laughter]. >> Uh he had the snake, and he was routing. around, but he had the light hit him, and I just knew he had that purity of I. need to get this toilet unclogged, [laughter] and I don't care how much. I need to handle with my bare.

hands." And by the way, that guy's. playing Jason Bourne, too. >> Yeah, yeah, exactly. [laughter] Also, I'm I'm the Yeah. The safty version of Jason Bourne. But I. mean, that is something that I It. happened with Dave Krumholtz, actually, cuz he was going for the part that. Mitchell ended up getting. Yeah. And his. audition was amazing. He was great, he's. a great actor. I've always loved him. since Sons of Beverly Hills, even before. then. I And he's. >> a fantastic actor. But then he's like, "You know, I saw the. movie, and I realized, oh, I lost it to. that guy." You know what I mean? Like. >> Right. You're not. >> He paints lines on a parking lot, you.

know. He's he's he's uh you know, he's I. They wanted like this real this real. person, this guy's essence, who Yeah, yeah, yeah. as much as that he could. emulate it, he's not that person. And. And I think adding a lot of people who. you also don't know, but you feel like. you know them immediately has this kind. of additive effect that you're just in. real life. And and every every single. person I cast, the guy who works in the. shoe store, this guy Lloyd, he's. >> yeah. um horse better. He's a great. horse better at Aqueduct Racetrack. And.

uh Ratso, who's a friend of mine, who do. you Did he You never crossed paths with. him, right? He was not in the Lampoon at. all. >> think so, no. >> Ratso, Larry Sloman, he he was a great. writer, he wrote Stern's book, Private. Parts. >> I don't think I know him. Um. >> But I could. I might be best friends. with him. I know. >> [laughter]. >> I know him. I'm a very empty man. I know Penn. >> are you, by the way? And where are we right now? He's the guy. who plays the uncle. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah. >> Ratso. So he's uh Anyway, so the. backstory that I had for him is that he. got this shop uh through his kind of his. horse racing obsession. Yeah, yeah. And.

then I tell that to Jen, and then Jen's. like, "Oh, we'll look at horse betters.". So then all of a sudden you're getting. Lloyd. >> This is I mean, this is a. this casting technique. it it might change things because it's. so effective and powerful. And this. whole idea of well, we got to cast. someone as the nerd who operates the. elevator. Get me all the nerds, and. everyone who's has got an 8 by 10 where. they're wearing glasses that's taped in. the middle, and they're like, um they they just.

>> just learned what the what the word geek. is. Do you know what a geek is? Well, I. know what I think a geek is. >> No, but like I just I was talking to. Ronnie, and he was He casually mentioned. like he was talking He's reading a book. about the circus Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. A geek is the person who like. bites the heads off of chickens and. stuff. >> kind of geek, yeah, yeah. And that must. There must be Yeah, >> circus geek. There must be some. correlation between a geek. >> nerdy. >> Yeah. No, it's not It's original It's. original derivation is not nerd. >> Mm. It's. >> nerd. Nerds are smart. Geeks are not.

smart. >> Geeks are totally outside society, and. they're What's a dweeb, then? Well, the. A dweeb is very different. Yeah, what is. a dweeb? Well, I'll tell you cuz I have. long experience. Uh-huh, [laughter] no, I don't. That's why I'm asking. I don't. know, I have no idea. I like to pretend. I know. >> instantly. Well, there was a great all. There was a great In Living Color. sketch, it was like a geek, a dweeb, or. a spaz, and you had to pick. Yeah. And I. remember that as a kid, I loved it. Anyway, sorry, going back to Why did I. say geek? Oh, you're talking about the. tape. >> Yeah, and and. >> [laughter]. >> But let's let's get back to let's get.

back to the center of the movie, Timothy. Yeah. Uh is um. he's spectacular, and also. this is something he did last year in. the Bob Yeah. Dylan If I Is it he went. off and learned Yeah. how to play uh. guitar in a very specific way that uh. mimicked how Dylan was playing guitar in. those in those early uh Village years, and.

got it down. just right, which is no easy thing to. do. >> No. Then. >> Not at all. Then for then for um Marty. Supreme, >> if there's any voice you want to. emulate, Dylan's probably the easiest. >> Yeah. Yeah, [laughter] yeah, yeah. Yeah. Maria Callas, not so much. I lost that. part. I don't know why. Um but. >> When you get to to Timothy playing table. tennis, he's so convincing, and I found out. later on that um yeah, you can do. things, I guess, with CGI or whatever,

but he really spent a long time getting. great at this, >> Yeah. and. I started to realize he's built like a. table tennis guy. He's. >> so wiry and kinetic, and he's got so. much energy Mm-hm. that it's the perfect. sport for him to play. I don't know if. that went into. >> he would like to imagine that he could. be an NBA basketball player, but sure, table tennis. No, I don't tell him I. said that.

Tell him I said, "Yeah, oh, yeah.". The first one of the first, you know, the the inspiration for the movie was. this character that my wife, who's a. producer on the movie, got this book. that was a autobiography memoir about. this the wiry There was a bunch of these. intense outsiders who hung out at this. table tennis parlor, Midtown, New York. >> Mm-hm. Um a footnote of history, it was. interesting, it was owned by the first. black business owner in the Times Square. district. That's who His name is Herwald. Lawrence, and that's who George Gervin.

plays. But at this place, which my great. uncle played at, he said there was like. an orphanage for outcasts. And they were. all these wiry kind of proto-ADD. super smart people who got terrible. grades cuz they just did not care for. school, astrophysicists and criminals, this is a. motley crew. And I saw I was like. immediately when I was reading I was. like, "I want to know what these guys. looked like." And I typed in like 1949. British Open, and I saw immediately you see these. guys, young guys, wire wiry, bouncing.

all over the place, and I immediately. called Timmy, and I was like, "This is. the project we can do together.". >> Yeah. And I said it weirdly, I I don't. know why I was like so fearful of the. idea of period, so I put it to Peter. Gabriel, and I have the touch, that that. feeling. >> Mm-hm. Time I like it's the rush hour. cuz I like the touch, the rush. Uh And. uh And that was the That was the. beginning of it, and I just saw I was. like, "If there's any sport, this would. be perfect for for Timmy." And he And he. And he spent like 7 years. I remember he. played me earlier on. >> 7 years. 6 years, 6 years.

>> Yeah, cuz he was doing it in tandem with. Dylan. And I remember he played me and. and my wife, we went to see him. He play. He was just starting to learn guitar. He. didn't know how to play guitar when he. started doing Dylan at all. >> he's like, "Oh, I want to play you a. Dylan song." And I I wish I could. remember the song. I remember him. playing it, and me looking at my my. wife, and I was like, this is going to be rough on you, know? >> [laughter]. >> It was like He was like, "Well, that was. good, right?" I was like, "You're. amazing, man." I was. That was something, and I meant it. It. was something. >> That was something. But But that's what. people said to Dylan originally, [laughter] too. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But.

then I watched him like over the years. in tandem with table tennis, and he. started training with this guy in. uh who was like the youngest of US. champions, this guy Michael Landers, who. was on a Wheaties box at one point. Uh. maybe it was not Wheaties, but it was. another cereal brand. Anyway, he I. watched him train, and he got the. mechanics good. And then when By the. time he I linked him with these this. husband-wife team, Diego Schvartzman and. his wife Wei Wang, uh who she was an. Olympian who he did cuz I read that he.

did Forrest Gump. I see. And I was like, "I need Whoever did Forrest Gump, Right. I loved as a kid, I loved that section.". Which is inspired by an amazing true. story. uh in the '70s that broke down the. communication between China and the US. >> Right. It was through. >> helped thaw relations, yeah. Yeah, it It. was through table tennis. It was like a. hippy guy. missed his bus in Tokyo in the '70s, and. or the '60s, and got onto the Chinese bus. And they. were all They hadn't seen an American. person. So now there's this like.

long-haired guy, and he's like, "Hey, peace and love, everybody.". >> Yeah. And the number one player in the. world goes up to him, gives him a gift. The guy gives him a gift back, and that. made news, and then Mao was invited the. team to China, and then that broke and. then Nixon was like, all right, and then. it became known came known as ping-pong. diplomacy. Nixon visited shortly after. And I didn't know that story until I was. doing research for this, but you watch. Forrest Gump and you assume all of that. sequence when, you know, when he there's. he's like showing up like Zelig and all. that world history.

But but anyway, so. how did I get on that? Oh, ping-pong with Diego who did Forrest. Gump. when they met with him, you know, Diego. was has this incredible. >> Diego is is helping to instruct Timothy. >> He's going to Wei is going to his wife. is going to teach him how to play better. cuz the mechanics had to be perfect. And. Diego's going to be the choreographer. consultant. And he has this incredible. recorded like library of footage of. going back to the '80s of these amazing.

games. So we combed through all of those. and built each point, the narratives of. each point. >> we Yeah, it was really Yeah, the games I. imagine the I hope the games are really. engaging and entertaining. >> are thrilling. They are They are. thrilling. They're [laughter] thrilling to watch. And. um. you know, again, what adds to it is that. Timothy's. des- Marty's. desperation. desperation. and you know, so much of drama, cinema,

whatever you. however you want to categorize it is. about someone desperately wanting. something. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> And it's true in Gems, it's true here, desperately wanting to be the best and. show everybody. Actually, probably knows. I am the best and I need to show. everybody I'm the best and I will do. anything. >> Yeah, I love the Guinness Book of World. Records. I've always loved the Guinness. >> fascinated with that when I was a kid. >> Cuz it's amazing cuz you're like, wow, some This guy's the best at this thing. He can hold his breath for 3 and 1/2. minutes while like balancing a ball on.

his head. You know, there's something. really beautiful about the the desire to. have a place in the sun basically. The. car like and everybody and then dreams. in particular are. fascinating to me because they're and I. told the story kind of like a heist. film. You know, it's it's but it's like. dreams as heists. You're like trying to. control your own fate. And I think that. kind of adds to a little bit level of. level of suspense. It's like you're. watching somebody you know his dream is.

totally ridiculous to 99.9% of the. people he meets and every moment that. people do not buy into his dream or and. every moment he fails is approbation to. them. So it's like the whole every time. he gets set back in the movie, I think. what I like to hear is people really. feel that and it adds a level of tension. to it, but it's about a guy who really. just wants to be the greatest table. tennis player who also doesn't really. get him anywhere. >> There's been There's a lot of things. about Marty, Tim- Timmy's character. that's.

unlikable, you know, very brash, very. rude, cutting corners left and right, throwing. people under the bus if he has to. Um. and yet, there's not a person watching. that movie who isn't rooting for him. And I find that to be really fascinating. and that that's the sleight of hand that. I think is really magical about you know. Well, you have to give somebody. I think love is more important than. likability. And I I believe that those.

moments that you are connecting with him. are are kind of pure and they are. because they're pure, they have a. feeling of love attached to them. Like. liking is more of a casual thing. and you know, I I. I and I think that he's out chasing. happiness, desperately chasing happiness. and happiness is a very fleeting kind of. haunted feeling. Happiness is very is. kind of sad in a way. because it's so hard to to achieve. >> trying [clears throat] to grab smoke. >> Exactly, exactly. And I think that there.

is something sympathetic to it, but I. think his youth I think when you're. young, the concept of consequences so. it's so small because the world is so. big and because it's so big, there's so. many different options. Well, that. didn't work, I can go over here. And I. think that that youth is also kind of a. little bit of The movie's kind of about. being an idiot in your 20s. Yeah. You. know what I mean? >> god, and also confidence. He's I mean, this guy. >> confidence. This guy who. talks his way into all these situations. and then he's in a big room.

and he's in London, I think. >> Yeah. And Which one? In the dining hall. with with Kevin O'Leary when he comes up. or. >> Well, it's with he sees. Gwyneth Yeah. Paltrow's character come. in. So this extraordinarily beautiful. woman comes in and he sees her and he's. like. yep, going to call her up. >> [laughter]. >> And I I he. >> Well, his star Her stardom is like it's. so interesting to him. He's just like, wow, she burns bright. And he and and. and distract He's upset. The beginning.

he's upset with the It's the press. conference that he's manipulated. He's. upset that they're not paying attention. to him in this moment cuz he has. everything totally figured out. He knows. how he's going to get He's going to say. the things that are going to get a rise. out of these people so they're going to. want to write a piece about him. Then. he's going to be proud of his little I. used to walk around with a little. Village Voice clipping when I would do. my research and I'd pull it out to show. somebody like, I'm serious filmmaker, check it out. Look at my little Village. Voice clipping. And in hindsight, I was. so proud of those little clippings. In. hindsight it's probably kind of. pathetic. You know what I mean? I'm like.

showing this tiny little clipping and. I'm like, trust me, give me some money. to make this movie. Look at me, I was in. the Village Voice and like. >> Yeah, the minute someone pulls a. clipping out of their wallet [laughter]. you've lost the argument. But he But it's But it's But it's. endearing when he when Marty does it in. the movie with with Gwyneth and I think. that like with time I've been able to. kind of, you know, it was tragic, but. it's comedic. You know, what is the. um comedy is tragedy plus time. Like. that feels it that I think that's what.

makes that funny is that it's so tragic. that he is that way, but he's so. confident that it kind of down downplays. and I think his confidence is is. interesting to people. I think it makes. people are motivated to kind of want to. root for him. Plus there's a little bit. of a trick happening where you're it's. the sporting element. You're forced to. root for him. Yes. You know, like any I. don't know any I don't understand anyone. who watches sports casually. Like you. have to have a narrative, you have to. have a team that you root for. There's. stories inside of that so that you can. invest yourself in the game. Just to. like that's why I think people love.

gambling so much cuz it's like, oh, I. got to watch the sport and have. something that I really want out of it. And I think that that that does help a. little bit in the movie. I think you. feel like you really have to root for. him. Now, let's let's go to 10,000 ft. Google Earth out of this whole thing. This movie now. it's award season. I was really there. just now. >> [laughter]. >> Now, I'm going to go even higher and. talk about actually talk about plate. tectonics. >> [laughter]. >> But no, we.

movie award season, are you chill during. these situations where you're going to. go to. depending on when this airs, but. it's still going to be award season I. think when this comes out and. are you able to go and be somewhat. detached or are you. is every fiber of your being hope that. you come home with a big award? Oh my. god, no. I, you know, part of the inspiration for. this movie was the feeling that I had. after I finished Uncut Gems. You have. this like 10-year journey where you're.

filtering your entire life through these. characters. You're trying to understand. your life through fiction and you're. writing your creating these characters. and maybe you can change the way you. feel and you're like, oh, that's why why. I did this said this to my girlfriend or. whatever, did this to my buddy. And I woke up every morning I had this. and I was like, I got to get Adam. Sandler, got to get Adam Sandler. Then. finally you're making the movie. with a decent budget and with Adam. Sandler and then it's done and then I. finished the movie and I'm showing it. and the pandemic's like around the.

corner unknowingly and someone said, what's next? And I started to cry cuz I. was like, I didn't know I had this. hollow feeling because this thing that. was like my drive every single day was. gone. Didn't you contemplate maybe being. an architect? I did. How do you know. that? I. I ask I ask around. I walk around alleys. with Abel Ferrara. Give people $20. What's the word? What's the word on. Josh? >> Well, I said to Ronnie, I said to. Ronnie, I said, yeah, I don't even know. if I want to do this anymore. And he was. like, whoa, wait a second, you're my.

writing partner. What do you mean? And I was like, I I do. I would love to one day build a. building. That's like my big dream. I. like the feeling of a narrative of a. building, of going in and experiencing. and having something happen inside, going out the back and coming through. and then like forever that area you have. like a relationship with it. Yeah. Uh. but so I had that hollow feeling when I. shouldn't have had a hollow feeling. I. should have felt incredible. Should have. felt like I did this thing. I should. have felt a sense of accomplishment, but. I didn't. And that feeling as you see. that at the end of Marty a little bit,

you know, this he finally does this. thing, but it's for who? For himself or. what? And dreams are really lonely. So. that I have that now. I can't I'm not. going to lie. I feel that. So and I'm Yeah, next is the is the I'm. going to contact Burger King about. designing their new [snorts]. >> [laughter]. >> cuz I think that there needs to be more. aesthetics in fast food. I don't like. the direction of the the fast food has. [laughter] gone in. You know what's. going to happen? You're going to go into. the Burger King cuz you want to design a. better Burger King and you're going to. see someone working the fryer and go, "That face.". >> [laughter].

>> You're the next Myrna Loy. Myrna Loy? What the is Myrna Loy? Um but I do. But I do feel like So right now like I'm. just having a slightly like. disassociative feeling kind of like you. made this really personal thing. It's. connecting with people and audiences. >> deservedly so. >> I went to I I was once in a at a film. festival and they. in Poland. And these were like a lot of very small. art films and I was there a movie tiny. movie that me and my brother made and. there's other movies that we like and. they sat us all in one room. He said,

"One of you will be leaving with 200,000. euro.". And it's You look to your right. And you. look to your left and you look to your. left and it might be them and it might. not be you. And all of a sudden. everyone's looking at each other like. competitive. >> Yeah. And you're like holy And it. was horrible. I didn't like that. I. thought I was coming to this festival to. share this thing get to see Poland then. that volcano happened. Remember the. volcano eruption that no one could say. the name of that volcano and then all of. a sudden all the US judges who were. supposed to come in and be a part of the.

competition were grounded in America. So. I'm like oh shoot our best you know you. and Benny and I were figuring out how. well now we're not going to win because. we had these US judges. So then we. partnered with another filmmaker. We're. like all right if you win which we. thought they had another great movie. If. you win let's share the money. And he. was like that's a deal done. And then. you know you get there and you're just. looking at everybody and the competition. thing is kind of weird. That said it's. nice to win. You know what I mean? Oh no. some of the Polish film because they. only could use Polish people. And the.

jury. I see. You thought this was going. to a place like and we won. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah let's Hey do me a favor Josh. Sorry. Let's do a rewrite. No no no. THEY YOU WON. BUT YOU won and. what was interesting is that they they. said we really wanted to go and visit. Auschwitz. And they said you know okay well you. know there's a bit of a situation. because because there was this volcano. things are really scrambled we can't. really get people. all the people who want to go to go at. once. So we're going to go at 2 p.m. So. we went at 2 p.m. you drive. We get.

there and this woman who ran like. another film festival is like oh man I. didn't realize I had the screening at 6. p.m. It's now like 4 p.m. It takes like. an hour to get back. And they were like. she's like can we do an abridged version. of this tour? Oh. And I'm looking at. this like a bridge version of the tour. of Auschwitz. They're like well it takes. like 3 hours to walk it. And the woman. was like can we do the hour version? And. I'm like looking at this person. And. we're literally like running through. Auschwitz. You know like. >> [laughter]. >> that's where they that's where they. experimented on the fetuses this is. where they did this and this is where. they did that. >> Jesus. And we're looking around and then.

the alternative if you won to the. 200,000. euros you can get 2 million euros to. make a movie that takes place in. like in in Poland. Yeah. So that was. going to be the movie was going to be. this comedy that took place at Auschwitz. about the tourism industry. But uh difficulty of the dive. >> [laughter]. >> That's your I always judge a project by. difficulty of the dive. [laughter]. You know. Your comedy about Auschwitz is pretty.

good. >> [laughter]. >> Uh wow. Well listen I have to say um I wish you. all the best because I really did love. this movie as did so many other people. and uh I wish you. well and I think you're the real deal. Thank you so much for being here. Thank. you so much. That was amazing. >> [music]. >> Okay I have a burning issue I'd like to.

discuss. >> Oh. Is it burning? No no not that. Um. creams have solved that issue. And various ointments salves and related. balms. Oh my god. But that's not the. point. The point is there's something. real that's happening in the world. Sona. why don't you tell the good people what. I like to have maybe 3 days out of the. week. You like to have what was formerly. known as the Hailey Bieber smoothie from. Erewhon. >> Yes. And so. Erewhon makes this smoothie. It only.

costs $800. >> [laughter]. >> You need a co-signer at the bank. Uh but you get this smoothie. It's very. delicious and it's got various flaxes. and resins. Okay. Uh balms and ointments. aforementioned. It's got all kinds of. stuff in it but tastes good and I really. like it. I don't get it all the time but. I get it maybe twice maybe three times a. week sometimes on a on a busy week. And. your skin looks great. >> It's been so good for my skin. And uh it. is called the Hailey Bieber smoothie. Right. Very recently David went out and.

grabbed me one and he came back and he. was pale as a ghost. Yeah. Ashen. Mhm. I. I just like what happened? And he said. it's no longer called the Hailey Bieber. smoothie. He looked up for it on the. board it's not there. There's not even. an indicator like this is what you used. to buy or formerly known as? >> No her name's not there. It's no longer. called the Hailey Bieber smoothie. I. think it's called. >> glaze smoothie. So there's just no name. associated with it. >> Right. There's no celebrity name and I. don't trust any product that doesn't.

have a celebrity name. >> Oh. I'm very hardcore about that. Do you. know what I mean? [laughter]. I'm if I want to if I'm going to grill. something it's got to be on the George. Foreman grill. >> just do [laughter] any Rockin' New. Year's Eve or only Dick Clark's Rock? Only Dick Clark's and God rest his soul. I won't. If someone says hey let's rock. this Eve I'm like yeah. um but it's not going to be just a. generic rock it's got to be the Dick. Clark New Year's Rockin' Eve. So I am. very much uh attached to celebrity.

endorsement. It's the only kind of. product that I really that I really. want. And uh or that I trust. So this. has been a blow. And I do think there needs to be a. celebrity name attached to that. smoothie. And so this message is going. out to the good people at Erewhon. I. know that you must be devastated. My. guess is that they had Hailey Bieber. under contract for a certain amount of. time and then it expired. Yeah. And so. now they're back to just old raspberry. glaze.

>> strawberry Okay whatevs. >> [laughter]. >> Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But I. don't want to walk up to the counter and. say I'll have just some strawberry. glaze. >> boring Exactly. Yeah yeah. Where are you. headed with this? I think we all know. >> yeah. You need a celebrity attached to. this and it needs to be someone young. who Oh. >> [laughter]. >> young compared. >> relevant. >> young compared hold on it's all. relative. Young compared to say people. that were serving when Pearl Harbor was. bombed. >> [laughter]. >> I think it's all relative.

It's got to be a whippersnapper which. means anyone under 70. Will [laughter]. hit pick you up. >> Eduardo pulled it up and just to chime. in it's technically it looks like the. name is the strawberry glaze skin. smoothie. Yes. And so I'm I'm going. somewhere with this. And This nerd. [laughter] Well I just wanted to say. that I think whoever they choose next. whether it be you or somebody else it. they're going to want to be their model. for the skin. Yes. Yes. Okay. And this. is why what you some people listening. are like oh that's going to be a problem. for what Conan's about to pitch. No no.

no no no. This all the more reason. A lot of people associate Conan O'Brien. with oh his super quick wit. Oh. Um you. know uh those bedroom eyes. Oh. Um the. eye vein the eye vein that is apparent. in a bedroom. >> [laughter]. >> Um no. uh well yeah the hair the pompadour you. know all that kind of stuff whatever. But um I think first of all I have a. kind of strawberry look. >> That's true.

>> Yes. I do have that. And. >> here. I do have beautiful skin. It. really does glow. It really does uh and. and Because you can see light through. it. I. >> [laughter]. >> you can see my skeletal structure. Okay. I am uh the visible woman. And so I'm. just saying I'm I'm a pretty big name. and. uh yeah. Am I young? No I'm not young. But also. I'm one of those people you're like.

you're not really sure how old that guy. is. That's true. If you don't have. immediate access to the internet. >> [laughter]. >> So um and I behave in a very youthful. manner. I'm very immature. >> Yeah. So all I'm saying is I am willing. to lend my name. And when I say lend yes. there will be financial compensation. Oh. But I am willing to throw my hat. into the ring cuz I'm sure other. celebrities are pitching this hard. I. know for a fact that Paul Rudd was in.

there 2 days ago. >> Oh. >> Just screaming at them to call it the. Paul Rudd. And that is a. >> Mhm. for that Yes. >> Does it have to be that one or are you. open to naming any one of their other. >> This is my opening. It's a very popular. smoothie Eduardo. Yeah. Why would you. block me with this? >> a whole bunch more. Let's see what we. got here. All right. They have an. incessant bits smoothie? That should. [laughter] be you. There's an incessant bits smoothie that. they already have and it says made with. real comedy bits. >> choose the always on. I feel like this.

has to be it cuz this is the one you. drink all the time. >> Oh look. Perfect amino choco revive by. Gary Brecka. That one's got a name. >> You're I would do this. >> if they're putting Gary Brecka's name on. a smoothie then my Yes. I think he's. like a longevity expert. Oh yeah okay. Buh. We'll say yeah exactly. Um. Let's see. Gorgi cherry crush. I mean. if it's not I'm putting my name in for. this because there's a void.

>> Yeah. But if it has to be another. smoothie we can talk about that later. but you've opened a whole can of worms. here. Yeah I think it this makes sense. because you I enjoy it. Yeah you're. you're red. >> plugging it right now. I am red. I have. luminous skin. Yeah. I am married to. Justin Bieber. >> [laughter]. >> You're like if if you can't get Hailey. Bieber you seem like the obvious second. choice to Hailey Bieber. So that makes. sense. >> Yes. Um I think I actually think it.

would serve them well. >> see people saying I want the Conan. O'Brien? I want the Conan O'Brien. Be. honest. Can you see them I actually. would. I'm not even joking. I would I. think that Erewhon should name this. smoothie after you. But wait what when. you say compensation like what do you. mean? Like do you want like $200? I'm. not around here. >> [laughter]. >> Okay? First of all I would get my. representation involved and I would just. start to hammer Erewhon. And I mean. hammer them. >> that might not work. First of all I'd go. in and say what did Hailey Bieber get?

They would give an amount and I'd say. get 80% more. I've been around a lot. longer. I think I have even better skin. than her. It glows more." What? No, but. but you don't Are you at all worried you. don't have better skin? >> yuck my yum. >> [laughter]. >> Are you worried at all You're not using. it right. Well, you know, Lazenby. followed Connery for Bond. You know that. that that Lazenby was great. Lazenby did. a good job. >> He did. >> of people when you say James Bond, they. think Lazenby. Oh, boy. >> think No, he's one of the best Bonds. And he's one of the Bonds people think.

about the most, even though he only did. For Her Majesty's Secret Service. >> Or On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Okay. But wouldn't it be like going from Sean. Connery to like. >> That's what he just said. >> [laughter]. >> No, but I'm saying. >> right now? I don't know what you're. saying. I see what you mean, like Sean. Connery to like Mickey Rooney. >> Yes, thank you. Well, no, I was thinking. someone even. Yeah, like older. >> Oh. Oh, [laughter] older than Sean. Connery. >> Mickey Rooney, who's long dead. Yeah. And was old before he died.

Really [laughter] old. Yeah, but like, you know, like, I don't know, Abraham. Lincoln. Or like. Have you seen Lincoln's skin? Very dry. Look at those Brady portraits. He's got very dry skin. I just think there's so many young. people that go that know Hailey Bieber. I'm not saying young people don't know. you cuz I know young people know you. >> Oh, they know Conan O'Brien. And they. have to deal with Conan O'Brien. They. have to accept him as a reality. Um. >> [laughter]. >> I don't even know what I'm saying now. >> to.

Why do they have to deal with you? >> gravity. You got to deal with me sooner. or later. I'm gravity. >> [laughter]. >> I will get you sooner or later. Oh, there's no escaping this Conan O'Brien. Oh my god. >> even my generation, but he's. >> this actually does turn into Erewhon. coming back and saying, "Let's do this.". Yeah. Great. >> A- Also, when I said great, I meant. great for Erewhon. Great for them. Great. for anyone who likes a good smoothie and. wants to see it succeed. Because I bet. there are a lot of people like me who.

need a celebrity endorsement to really. trust a product. >> ask you this. Let's say they come back. to you and they're like, "We want to. change it to Conan O'Brien, the Conan. O'Brien smoothie. We feel we need to. lower the price a little.". >> [laughter]. >> We need to reduce the price by about. 90%. >> [laughter]. >> You having a good laugh over there? >> most of the good ingredients. >> doing over there, Chuckles? >> [laughter]. >> It's just. crushed ice and some unpasteurized milk.

>> [laughter]. >> With With sprinkles? With a swirl of. asbestos? WE GOT REAL 1950s asbestos and swirled. it [laughter] in. Listen, I accept the realities of the. marketplace. I am a capitalist and I believe in the I. live and die by the capitalist system. So, I accept the realities of the. marketplace. Am I as attractive as. Hailey Bieber? No, I am not. Uh am I as. vital? Uh am I as much a a hero to the. young people? I get it. I'm not. So,

yes, it'd be a price reduction. Yes, they would probably have to discontinue. some of the really good stuff that's in. there and replace it with I'll just say. older stuff. >> [laughter]. >> Same ingredients, but they're like weeks. old. No, not weeks old. >> [laughter]. >> What if they CHANGED THE NAME? THE ALL THE ALL THE INGREDIENTS HAVE TO. BE FROM THE Kennedy administration. Yeah, but I mean, would you. still left. >> over from the Kennedy administration. Butter, no. What if you changed the name. of it though? Wouldn't instead of just. being the Conan O'Brien smoothie,

wouldn't it be something a little bit. more fun? Like the What do you mean? He. needs that name recognition. >> I need the name. >> Okay. >> People want the name. >> Maybe you could have a descriptor in the. name of who who you are. And then they like in parentheses, he. hosted a show for a long time. Your. parents would know who he is. Or. something like I don't know. No, no, this [laughter] is a bummer. Ask your. parents the Ask your parents smoothie. No, Sona, this is not what we're doing. >> up K-rations with the metal tin. included. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah.

We took Korean War rations, >> [laughter]. >> put them in a blender. We found some government-issue peanut. butter from 1963. And some [laughter] Lucky Strike. cigarettes. Listen, I I I get it. Yes, you are right. There. have to be some adjustments to the. product. I understand that. These. Erewhon people aren't dumb. They'll do. the right thing.

Um and I get it. I'm I have some. humility, but I will replace [laughter]. Hailey Bieber, and it will be the Conan. O'Brien smoothie. I'm going to make this. happen. >> I hope so. Yeah. All right. If the. ball's in your court, Erewhon, if that's. even a real name.