John Mulaney Was Honored To See Conan’s Mean Side | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend
I want to say something else we've. talked about this subject because. another thing that you talk about which. is likability I know that you sometimes. I really love it when you break into. song sure uh. sure well don't say sure that means no. this is good it's a good way to show. your listening is to say little things. while someone's talking well how do we. know that we're not just dropping those. in them. you know what I would love to do is. record John doing little things like yes.
of course yes and then drop those into. other people of course uh anyway I would. do a thing sometimes uh over the years. in front of the writers where. I couldn't say something. um to them about how I didn't like a. sketch or what the flaw in the sketch. was but I could start singing a song and. the song would very specifically it. would be a very chipper song but it was. a very the lyrics were improvised and it. would then very specifically get into. what was wrong with the sketch and it.
was like a spoonful of sugar musical. passive aggressive it's incredibly. passive aggressive but the song would. keep going and I would commit to it 100. and people would be chanting along and. then realize that they had just had some. I there was some lead in that dress. there was some I don't know what that is. but you're born in the USA. it was you were born in the U.S yes. behind that driving beat Reagan said oh. well you know well well we'll use that.
as my song and then he hadn't listened. to the lyrics and I hadn't listened no. yeah they were critiquing his sketch yes. [Laughter]. I really like that and I love the whole. idea of being able to communicate. Truth by just singing a song about what. a waste of time Webster Hubble reference. was and how we won't recover wow we. won't recover you know what I mean and. then it's just it comes out that way in. song I'm the guy who makes references. all the time but when Melanie makes.
references. I mean it's ridiculous. uh yeah exactly just like that you can. edit right I won't but I can no okay and. right where I did and then put in cheers. and then edit out the part where Melanie. comes right back at me and it's like. Edith Bunker saying maybe you're the. Meathead no and the problem goes crazy. edit in that time multiple times you.
referenced to Tova Borgnine. yeah they had a bad divorce did they. Tova and Ernest yeah right he divorced. her because her forearms were bigger. wow add more laughter there I can't do. it and then uh some silence and then uh. music and then more left okay or was. Ernest Borgnine divorce from Shelley. Winters maybe I'm Shelly Winters he. stayed married to Tony okay great were. they married didn't they do uh Poseidon. Adventure together with Shelly Winters. whom I think Debbie Reynolds sorry no.
Shelley Winters is in Poseidon that's. what I'm thinking were they married at. the time is Ernie in that isn't he. Ernest Borgnine is in that okay he plays. yeah Ernest Borgnine is let's go I doubt. it's after that actually no joke I think. I remember seeing the Poseidon Adventure. I think they were married in it. and I think he's like a retired police. detective or police captain okay I.
believe you're welcome nicely done. nicely done yeah Sona finally made a. reference that I get all right um okay. okay let's just take it easy and. everyone just relax let's put the knives. away absolutely okay yeah your attack on. me I think was completely. you know my life has changed so much. Sona has it yeah let me tell you how I. can just get all this stuff delivered. right to my door I mean if you grew up. when I did in the early 1920s that was.
unheard of you know a kid in a cap you. had to hey boy boy you know and you'd. have to say yes sir and you'd have to. say you know toss him a coin go get me. that goose in the window and hit say yes. sir Mr Scrooge but it was that was was. like back then yeah but now it's not so. much of our world digitized an automated. why stick to Old School mailing and. shipping if you mail or ship often let. stamps.com do the hard part for you. simply print Postage and shipping labels. right from your home or office it's.
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it's funny because people that it. I clearly on the podcasts have shed my. concern for likability but yes you have. yeah but I'm saying I I I I'm in a good. way you have yeah I've shown how mean. you can be oh please I don't think mean. I think bravely honest is the way I. would call it uh no in a it's like.
you're you're a monster you changed up. pitches and you're like oh the whole. time he's been mean yeah well we could. which is the which is the big reveal for. every comedian oh they have contempt for. so many people and so many things. oh that's the big do you know did you. guess what that's our everyone's Rosebud. is a sled that says kind of mean yes. I I don't take a second yeah. to think about the sled.
just to collect yourself. I'm really rattled yeah you're shaking. up a lot yeah this has been a huge. Revelation for me how about that funny. waiter we had at dinner a few months ago. which waiter I don't even know I don't. even look at it remember how funny that. waiter was he gave us he gave you the. bill you nicely treated me to dinner and. he said. um and you said and I'm not leaving a. tip and he said sir I'm expecting. something absolutely amazing.
yes he had perfect timing yeah he was. great he was very good I forgot I forgot. we had a good time didn't we did we see. any famous people that we saw John. Mellencamp from a distance I didn't see. him he was blocked I saw him I saw his. profile. we saw and we knew the guy he was with. that's right we did I had a I had a. um large gum abscess worked on that day. so my face had like a golf ball in it. you people in the restaurant thought I. had struck you I know it really did look. it did look my face.
didn't hurt and I didn't want to cancel. dinner because he's so hard to get to. nail down plans with because ever since. he got married yeah. when I knew him three Liza it was like. we were like you know uh oh the times we. had oh yeah we were like Schneider and. uh and uh Kibler yeah yeah uh we're like. BBS we were like those guys no we were. they used to call seriously they used to. call us the wolf pack oh right and two.
of you well there was another I don't. know if they want to mention the we. should mention the name on Mike it's. your call more than mine you go you say. it no I know come on we know it's toga. board game it is not. but it was you me Alex Trebek who's not. around anymore he's not around anymore. yeah well he's not he's that's a good. way to say it well I'm sorry he's not we. were young we were had we had fun we had. so much fun I tore it up and there are. whole areas of New York I can't go to.
anymore right we'd close out Jones on. third yeah. it's a lunch place. people around the world that's a calm. lunch place it's really chill it's just. Southern California nice it's lovely no. whatever but then yes I got married and. I settled down and then you got all you. were like a baby about the whole thing I. stomped my feet at the wedding he did. he did it full-on Rumpelstiltskin he was. going up and down jumping up jumping up. and down stop me in dirty cowboy boots.
a little Cloud raised up yeah but um. when you realize that I had this mean. streak did it endure you to me or were. you disgusted no I knew the first. there's also the only two choices uh. endeared me to you but when I would do. stand up on late night I got to meet you. like after I got to meet you on the show. and then I got to talk to you after and. you were talking about you were. on the other guests to me I was thrilled. yeah you know you said it was like. wrestling a cat trying to get an.
interview out of someone and I love to. know that you had great contempt for. your other guests oh yes no I I think uh. it's almost you'd need to be lobotomized. to. to interview people every single night. and just be delighted by everybody it's. not possible now and you were you were. but also I knew I could talk to you yes. immediately that that was quite an honor. to me is that you felt you could. um you could say nasty things about. other people to me which you could and. you can yeah that's sweet that's really. sweet it's one of the greatest gifts you.
can give a young man that you're. mentoring is to let him know how small. you are on the inside what a little yeah. little prick you are yeah what a nosy. neighbor gossip. do you have good neighbors do you have. nosy neighbors that Snoop I have nosy. neighbors that know that lies is a witch. oh because they've been hearing through. the hedges yeah. um uh I uh wait no but I love people. then there are people that are able to. you know our mutual friend who we both.
adore Martin Short is. he's he's uh he can he's so mean he can. be so mean and incisively mean about. people and situations and gossipy but he. also has incorporated that into his on. stage oh my God and he's done it better. and no one's done it better and he's. he's so do you know what I mean he's. yeah I think aren't all comedians mean. sorry I mean there's always there seems. to be a mean streak in mean Mean meaning.
um not cruel yeah if there's a joke how. would you describe it actually if you're. with a group of Comedians and they can. make a joke about you that's mean but. they'll know it it'll get a laugh. they'll they'll do they'll do it ten. times out of ten yeah yeah yeah right. yeah okay all right I was gonna say Nate. bargatzi once described doing stand-up. for people that don't know what stand-up. is he did it at a award thing for his. father and he said they don't know I'm a.
comedian so it just seems like a mean. speech. remarks where you're on. products and people and the city you're. in and it really is that's all it is. it's just a mean speech so someone did a. uh. mashup online of all the times. Marty's come on The Late Night show and. he would always do the same thing you. know he'd come out and the first 10. minutes which was just delightful and.
delicious for me was him. tearing into me with all these prepared. beautiful Jabs. uh and really going to town. and I would just be dissolving it's just. a pile of mush I was so happy and then. we'd we'd move on. and someone put together a mashup of all. the best Marty roasts of Conan and it's. online somewhere. and Marty who I hung out with recently. said that he went online because someone. told him it's really funny Marty you got.
to check it out and it's had a lot of. clicks so he went online to look at it. and the first comment was. doesn't he know Conan could tear him. limp from him oh my God. four. it's like. what like Conan's just barely. restraining himself no it doesn't know. he could tear doesn't he know him he. could limp tear him limb from limb but. Conan's just showing great restraint.
great grace yeah. everyone in the studio audience was. always going wow Conan is showing great. grace to this petty little man this. petty little elf is just. but Conan with his coiled steel muscle. keep it up short he'll be using your. hands. [Laughter]. I just I don't know it just was like oh. okay that's the essence of not. understanding I would like to make one.
thing clear because we're talking about. how mean we are. I have to say it I don't I'm not mean to. anybody out in the world that I. encounter and I'm sorry we were all. holding like you're not mean to no no no. when I feel do we feel this is lost on. any I mean I don't know I don't know. because I'm gonna hear about it I'm. gonna hear like hey I so apparently. you're the worst guy that ever lived I'm. like now I'm back to your neighbors who. are you around that's gonna yell these. things. you always get the paper on the front.
lawn I do yell things I do I go I go and. I walk out like Tony Soprano and I get. the paper yeah I'm always in the same. robe that Tony Soprano I bought it from. the Gandolfini estate hey More Travel. shows less interviews Conan yeah yeah. stick to what you're good at the travel. stuff is working. I like travel stuff. uh yeah I just want to see you want to. figure it out that I want to clear up. that you're a very nice uh fellow with a.
that's nice for you to say I think it's. a Cold Black Heart we have such an. outlet for our uh uh anger and disdain. that most of the time we're very even. killing nice I'd say yes that's an. accurate statement I believe I would. absolutely agree I think I've been kind. to you when people were watching Sona. when people are looking I'm kind to you. no you're not you're okay all right. you're right you're right to her on this. show on the show you're brutal to me on. camera when you had your late night chat. occasionally I'll notice that we're in. public and I'll do some performative.
nice thing if I think someone might see. it no I'm saying if I think people are. watching I'm good at replicating. kindness no isn't that a great thing. yeah.
