Jimmy Carr Doesn’t Think He’s Punching Down | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend
you travel widely you tour widely have. you found a place where you felt yeah it. doesn't work for me here or it's not the. Jimmy car sensibility doesn't work here. or have you found that it's it's. completely Universal it's pretty. Universal in terms of like I think. people are that come and see me it's. it's uh self- selecting self Selec so. very few people would come and buy a. ticket to my show go oh my it's very. very rude isn't he why is he so rude why. is he why is there so much filth in this. why is he talking about the worst things. why can't he be nice has got no singing.
voice this is awful like they know what. they at this point they know what. they've they've they've done a little. bit of a Google and come along I me. always think like a good proportion of. my income I should be very grateful for. this but a good proportion is people. that have been dragged Along by their. other half yeah like I don't know what. per I don't know but there's a. percentage of my audience every night. that are okay I guess I guess we went to. the I guess we went to the game on. Saturday so we're doing this for you now.
fine fine no he's fine no I really. enjoyed it I really enjoyed it could. have been shorter you know what I don't. I get haunted by this but uh people. always overshare and I'm I'm very. fortunate to have many people tell me. that they really enjoy my nonsense but. invariably there's some proportion of. those people who say I mean my wife not. a fan and of course I'm intrigued like I. want to talk to her I don't want to talk.
to the guy that likes me I'm more I'm. more interested in talking to the person. who's not and not only I talk to the. person that doesn't like me a lot. because they come up to me in the street. constantly a stream of people can I get. a photo with you my mom really likes you. my brother really likes you my cousin is. a huge fan it's never them yeah that I. I've never met anyone who's a fan of me. it's always someone in an airport going. can I get a picture with you yeah. apparently you're famous come here yeah. yeah Jes well if I have to explain I'm. famous then I guess I'm not I'm fine. with that yeah you came up to me but at.
least they don't tell you they actively. dislike you those are the people I'm. interested in I want to talk to them. Matt let's. talk let me get my notes out then you. pull out a giant Tome of reasons I hate. Conan um now okay we live obviously in a. very sensitive era and this has not. deterred you in any way you uh you you. like to walk that line uh I don't know. if that's intentional it's just my sense.
of humor it's your sense I slightly. think it's that thing where you go um. you think about friendship right what is. friendship it's uh someone you talk to. with no filter that's your best friend. is a person with the least amount of. filter and work colleagues like these. guys a huge filter right actually. shockingly no there's there's really no. filter here I don't know I don't think. we I don't think I don't think son and I. have any filter we've known each other. many years well that thing though that. thing of like how you make that's how I. gauge friendship and I kind of think. with standup comedy you go when the. audience come to see you you're acting.
like a friend so there's different ways. to do that there some people are. incredibly open and honest about their. lives and just let you in and that's one. kind of way to you know demonstrate. friendship but some people just say. anything they think is funny and they. don't think oh maybe the audience won't. be able to get this maybe they won't. understand it's a joke and I I like to. just go well this is what this is what I. think is hilarious it's a weird thing I. think I think comedians are show is. adjacent a friend friend said this to me. you know Robbie Williams a singer really. nice guy and he said I'm an Entertainer.
in the true sense if you don't love me I. don't love me which I found. heartbreaking and I thought well. comedians haven't got that comedians. like we desperately desperately want to. be loved entirely on our own terms yeah. is that we thing if you go I'm going to. say this unsayable thing I mean this the. council culture thing is like it's very. fun to for journalists to write about. but it's not real is it I mean you can. all sort of the biggest comics in the. world are saying you know outrageous. things but it's it's just that thing.
that comedy has a role to play it's. that's that's what it's meant to do I. think and whether it's pushing it in. terms of subject matter or level of. intimacy or what you can talk about that. overturn window of what you can and. can't talk about shifts through time so. actually there's stuff like M you. outrageous jokes but there's also people. opening up about their lives you Mark. Maron and Hannah gadsby and people. talking about their experiences and. that's another way it's opening up and. expanding so it's I I don't know I think. it's a it's fun I think it's a problem. I've had people approach me on the.
street actually not too far from our. studio here literally like a block the. block south of here someone rode up to. me on a bicycle and he was lamenting and. he he wanted to I think connect with me. he just like man going isn't it tough. the cancel culture I mean guys like you. you can't you can't say anything anymore. and I thought that's just not that's. just not true I don't believe that's. true no it's it's it's it's I don't feel. that there's things that I want to say.
that I can't say there's a there's a. weird thing going on though where. there's a little bit of you know in The. Wider World outside of Comedy there is a. thing there's preference falsification. going on now so say that again uh. preference falsification I just sounded. pretty I just wanted to hear okay I know. I I you know what I mean I don't I don't. know what you mean by preference falic. so if you look at opinion polls now they. don't work as well as they did 10 years. ago so there's a thing where people know. what the right thing to say is but and. cancel culture there's nothing from. above right there's no authoritarian. leader to us what we can and can't say.
and really you look at the world now and. you go the basket of things that you. cannot say is so much smaller than it. was 20 years ago you you didn't there. was blasphemy you look at George Carlin. seven things you couldn't say on TV you. can say anything now it's it's open the. issue now is kind of self censorship is. the idea that people feel like well I I. don't want to say the thing so I think. there's a cathartic element to come to. see a comedy show because you go this. guy this guy doesn't seem to give a. he's saying whatever he wants and that I. think it in genders I think people have. very interesting conversations.
afterwards where they feel a bit looser. yeah I think with all comedy shows. actually I think it doesn't matter. whether you know edgy not edgy it. doesn't doesn't really make any odds I. think it's just it puts people in a. state of okay this is this is fun we can. laugh at stuff I think if someone's. being uh intelligent and honest and. they've crafted their. work uh I I I don't know what subject. they can't bring up I'm you know I I I. may not like all of it but it feels to. me that I think a lot of it is do I.
trust the person who's up here talking. have they are they intelligent do they. in general like Humanity or inclined to. like Humanity somewhat do they have. antipathy do they are they malicious and. what's the intention I mean there's. let's face facts intention and context. mean a lot there's a big difference. between being homeless and camping MH. okay and but you you can sort of do a um. a journalistic article where you pretend. you don't realize that and just say well. he said thing this is a statement a.
statement of fact rather than realizing. it was a joke and the audience laughed. and they all knew people laugh at the. wrong thing because they know what the. right thing is y um yeah it's it's uh. it's interesting are my theories com. comedians leak I think they leak I think. you watch someone do one liners for an. hour and weirdly I've said nothing about. myself and given everything away people. know who I am yeah they have a sense of. okay that's fine and it's that equal. opportunities offender thing of just. going well if I hit everyone then no one. feels like they're being got but I I I.
don't even agree with the language that. sometimes use that idea of punching down. that that people kind of you you. punching down you go soorry you think. there's people below me. what what now I'll stop you. there who's below me then who no give me. the list who's below me I mean obviously. I'm a you I'm AIS heterosexual male so. who's who's under me in your hierarchy. of humans.
