James L. Brooks (FULL EPISODE) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

Hi, my name is [music] James L. Brooks. and I feel quizzical about being concl. [laughter]. [music]. I came in a little hot. Yeah, right out. of the gate. I know. I was like an. auctioneer. friend. Oh, I've been watching a lot of. auction videos online.

>> Is that a thing? >> There's there Sabes has an account and. you can watch them and they're all these. really like professional people and a. lot of them are on the phone and they. just raise a finger and he's like, "Okay." And we have 3 million there. Two, do I have three? 31 31. And then. they just And I want to be one of those. people who was on the phone raising my. hand. >> I'm here's my terror. As you know, I. have a lot of ticks and bodily. movements. Um, and. >> I think you meant like the insects.

[laughter]. [clears throat]. >> As you know, I'm covered in tick. [laughter]. >> What if I just took off my shirt and it. was solid tick? [laughter]. >> Oh god, >> just a solid like black t-shirt of. undulating ticks all going [laughter]. sucking away. and I'm like, "Yeah, I've. got some ticks." Um, [laughter]. no, I uh I've always I've thought about. that. I've never gone to a real auction. And the idea that I'd be in an auction.

where it's like 9.1 million going once, going twice. I know that it [laughter]. would, you know what I mean? They'd be. like, "And Conor O'Brien over there with. 9.2. It's on you now, buddy." I grew up. my neighbor was an auctioneer but for. like cattle and stuff like that and he. he had this really crazy way of doing it. where he'd be like. [laughter]. and he would walk up and down the. street. He was tiny. Hey, he sounds. tiny.

[laughter]. OH GOD, I'M CARRIED AWAY BY A BIRD. >> He would I was just a kid and he'd offer. me paps blue ribbons and things like. that and we wanted to do a different. thing botchi. He always wanted to play. botchi. >> This isn't wittier. This isn't weer like. >> is there a lot of cattle? >> No, there's none. He's from He's from. Missouri. >> You know what? I uh So that's what. you're watching is auctioneer videos. I. didn't know that was a thing. I am. addicted to. >> I mean I watch a lot of guitar lick uh. little Instagram videos and stuff, but.

one thing I've noticed that I'm totally. transfixed by are little carpentry. hacks. >> I can't make anything out of wood. But. they'll they'll show you how they join. two pieces of wood by making these. little cuts. Or they'll show you, oh, if. there's a crack in your furniture, and. of course, they always have equipment. that I would never have that I don't. think anybody would have except a. professional woodworker. But they'll. say, oh, no, if you put this screw. halfway in, but then you cover it in. glue, but then you make this little.

divot and you put it in here, it's. recessed, and then you clamp this. together, and then you sand it. And I'm. like, "Oh my god, I just orgasmmed. [laughter]. watching that. It's fantastic." And then. I watch the videos where they explain. how an orgasm works. And I could watch. those forever. [laughter]. And those are hacks as well. >> Those are hacks as well. And you cut. them here. And you cut there. [laughter]. And then you put a little glue. AND. that's my auctioneer voice.

>> Oh god. >> Going west. I'm also imagining this is my YouTube. video is I watch Conan having an orgasm. covered in ticks. >> Yeah, I'm covered in ticks. Orgasming. while watching a carpentry [laughter]. hat. >> One view. And the ticks are all. watching, too. >> One view and it's me. >> One view. It's [laughter]. >> awful. >> Yeah, that was uh Wow. I don't know how. that all came together, but it did. What. do you watch? What's your guilty. pleasure? >> My gosh. I I'll watch a lot of like uh.

10 things you didn't know about. Godfather 3 or something or like. restoration of old toys that where they. sand blast it and um like repaint it and. things like that. It's kind of like an. ASMR. >> I'd like to come back as someone who. knows how to make things, >> you know? It's so endlessly fascinating. and uh I I I don't know what it is, but. it's so satisfying to see people. >> Yeah. You know, especially if when they.

if they do something like liquefy. aluminum and pour it into a mold and. then make something where they polish. it. I I will cancel everything. [laughter] No, no, no. They found your. replacement liver. It's they can insert. they can they can surgically put it in. right now before it dies. I need to. finish watching this. >> Oh, you know [laughter]. my chances on another emergency liver. >> that you might like. What? >> Marble Olympics. >> I don't know what that is. It's like. someone makes these huge.

racetracks and they race marbles against. marbles and there they all have like. names and there's all kinds of different. races and marbles in the bleachers. watching. It's amazing. >> This is sports for nerds. >> I know. But isn't it possible? Isn't it. possible that. >> we've reached Oh, it's okay. >> This is the extinction level we've. reached is that we, you know, we gained. over time. We figured out how to gain. humans. is if you do this and you do. that, a human will want to buy that.

product. So, it's all been figured out. by algorithms and and they figured out. what humans love to watch and we're all. watching it. And I was in an airport. like 3 days ago. Everyone I passed was. on their phone all watching the thing. that's been wired directly to their. brain to please them. >> And we might stop feeding ourselves. I. know it's it's really getting although I. heard I don't know if this is true but a. lot of kids are into dumb phones which. are basically like very basic.

>> I got one for the Oscars last year. >> for I turned my phone my app off. completely. >> Does that work? I'm interested in that. >> I love it. I love it. It's a thing. called a brick and it's a solid like. it's a it's a physical object that you. have to have with you. So you can leave. it at home and if you brick your phone, you can set what apps you can use. And. so I can go out and just have nothing. but maps and Spotify or something like. that, you know, and I can't be. >> Is this an ad for this device? Are you. secretly getting money? I'm not getting. any money. >> Is your phone like that now? >> No, not like that now cuz I need it if. >> And you just touch it to the brick and.

it breaks your phone. >> on there and it you preset what apps it. will let you use. And if you leave that. thing at home, you can't. >> I've talked to you about this, Adam. Sometimes I'll text Adam going, "If you. if there's an emergency at work, text. Amanda because my phone's pricricked. [laughter]. >> and I don't want to be on social media. or anything like that. I I need to do. that.". >> It's great. >> Yeah. >> It's just I got a real dumb phone. >> when things are really heating up with. the Oscars and it's. >> people think they're getting a call from. a drug dealer.

>> Yeah. >> You know, it's just hilarious. >> So, they're disappointed when it's you. [laughter]. >> But then I try to make up for it by. actually selling them drugs. Drugs. I. have no way of knowing how to guess. I'm. like, I've got some really good blackar. heroin that can be your, you know, and. then I have to go out and find it. >> And how much? You don't know how much. you're going to charge for that much. >> Imagine Imagine him dealing drugs. >> You would be a terrible drug dealer. Why? >> Because you don't do drugs, >> right? >> Um, okay. >> All right. So, what.

>> that's like a big reason. >> A lot of people don't use the product. they A lot of people don't use the. product they sell. >> How much a little baggie of Coke would. normally cost? role play this. Okay. It's a It's a dark alley. There's one. broken street light. Sona and I. It's 1944 in your scenario. >> I'm looking for Hey. >> Yeah. [clears throat]. >> You need a fix? Yeah. I'm your drug. dealer. What's going on? >> You already can't say. What if I'm a. cop? >> All right. Hey, how about this? Uh, >> you have to have an alias. >> Yeah, you got to be like a little more.

>> My name is Jazz. [laughter]. >> Oh my god, YOU'RE SO BAD. >> WHAT'S WRONG WITH JAZZ? I got this. I got this. I just don't. want the cops to get us. >> Okay. Hey, Jazbo. >> Uh, where'd you hear about me? >> We're looking for some stripes. >> Where'd you hear about me? >> I heard about you back at uh in the. wars. >> Okay. [laughter] What you What you want? >> Some stripes. >> Stripes? Yeah. I got stripes. I got. black bennies, Jojo's, flip flops, flip. flops, pink ladies. >> All right. >> Squantos, half prontos. >> How much? >> What do you got?

>> Uh, a dollar. >> Done. [laughter]. See, I told you. Do you Do you have anything stronger? Do. you have any um any blow? >> You want to blow? >> Yeah, I'll blow you. [laughter]. >> How much? >> I'll pay you whatever you want. >> Okay, that's what I'm talking about. I've just got to blow you right now. [laughter]. >> I All I've got is $2,000. >> I sold a bunch of stripes earlier today. [laughter] Here you go. Now, let's get.

to me blowing you. I'm Jazzbow the blower. [laughter]. >> You know, >> you know how they say. >> I'm a top blower in this town. Jazzbow's. the name. Blowing's my game. [laughter]. >> I'll give you whatever you want. This is. just a deposit. >> You know how they say if you're a cop, you have to tell me. Yeah. >> Take off your shirt. I got to know if. you're covered in ticks. [laughter]. >> I don't remember if this is even the. same record. >> I didn't either, but it feels like it. was a long time ago. It's time to the. same one. Okay. >> Uh anyway, >> I have no idea. Was it YouTube? Yes.

>> Is that the same one? I don't know. [laughter]. It started with seriously. I don't know. I took notes. >> All I know is that I'm paying you top. dollar to blow you in this scenario and. my name's [laughter] Jazzbo. >> I got drugs for a dollar and I'm being. paid to be fated by a man by a Jazzbow. covered in. >> I also love the first time you're like, "Hey, I'm your drug dealer. [laughter]. >> I'm your drug dealer. Drug dealer here.". >> Dingo. >> Jazzbow's the name. Drug dealing's the. game here. [laughter] Any ding ding.

ding? Anyone watch illegal drugs? Jazzbow's the name. Drug dealing's the. game. [laughter]. >> Um, and I'll blow you. Well, >> what [laughter] the. >> I have to say this is going to be an. excellent show. [music]. >> You're not going to remember this, but. I'm going to thank you up front because. you did me a huge. >> when you were selling those flowers.

>> [laughter]. >> I was selling flowers. I was blind. You. bought one and then paid for my. operation. Oh, wait. That's a Charlie. Chaplan movie. Um, now you did a great. thing for me and you won't remember this. in addition to other many great things. uh that you've done for me. But um when. I was a writer on the Simpsons and out. of nowhere. they announced that I would this. complete unknown uh was going to be. taking over for David Letterman. His. name is Conan O'Brien. No one knew how.

to react. This is insane. And somehow. they they were just looking for any. quote and they got to you somehow and. they said, "Uh, well, Simpsons, James L. Brooks, what do you think of this?" And. you said, "The moment I met Conan. O'Brien, I knew that he would one day. replace David Letterman as the host. [laughter] of Late Night." Now, that's a. really funny joke. But thank God the media had no sense of.

irony. [laughter]. >> So that happens with a lot of things. that I hope are jokes. >> I read so many articles that were like, "Of course, James L. Brooks came to his. defense [laughter] AND SAID FROM THE. MOMENT I met him, he was the only one.". And I think I survived off that quote. for a couple of months. >> I think what I actually said was he. can't. We have him under contract. [laughter]. You know, someone did. Actually, it. wasn't you. >> No, there was actually I remember.

somebody coming to me cuz you were under. contract. >> I was under contract at the Simpsons. when this insane thing happened and out. of the blue, I mean, I got the word that. Yeah, kid. You're it. When I was at a. rewrite session in the basement of the. record room at Warner Brothers, a phone. call came through. Someone said, "It's. for you, Conan." I took the phone and it. was my agent Gavin Palone and he said, "You got 12:30." And I said in a.

deflated tone, because I knew what I was. in for, I said, "I knew it." And cuz I was scared. And. then. >> wow, >> the drama unfolded, which was um I was. under contract at the Simpsons for. another couple years. And I remembered. someone at Fox said, "Now hold on a. second. You know, he's got to buy his. way out of his contract." I was driving.

a Ford Taurus at the time, which I still. own proudly. Uh and um. >> Oh, man. >> Yeah. And they said, "You got to buy. your way out." And it wasn't you, it. wasn't Richard Sakai, it was some guy at. Fox was like, "Hey, wait a minute." But. did they come to you ever and say, "What. do you think of this?". >> No. I remember hearing that somebody. told me, you know, because, you know, you you were you were quickly a star, the staff. I mean, you I mean, that was. that No, it was it was insane how. quickly that happened. And um and and.

then somebody said he's wanted exactly. this since he was 14. >> I remember I left SNL and I'm in New. York and I get a call from Mike Reese. and Al Gene and they say, "We hear. you're available.". um would you want to join us at the. Simpsons and this is in 19. uh 911 I think they said uh Jim Brooks. is coming in and I started pitching you. ideas and you were laughing you have. that amazing iconic laugh and I was.

overjoyed and then I had you said yes to. two of them and then Al Gene said tell. them about the Montreal. >> Oh wow. I pitched it then. Wow. >> And I said this is my first time in the. room. That's one of the classic Simpson. shows. >> Well, I had just had two ideas accepted. and my there's a big part of my I don't. know Catholic Irish Catholic don't push. it just you got to this is going to. anger him because it's weird. [snorts]. and I pitched you Montreal and you.

laughed really hard. And. that was my one of my great days in show. business to this day. >> was pitching to you and having you be. happy and hearing that famous laugh. >> A laugh that [snorts] unbeknownst to me. I had heard on television growing up. That famous laugh of you that you can. >> Do you hear it yourself when you watch. Mary Tyler Moore show or Taxi? Do you. hear yourself? >> I do. I do. It's Yeah, I do. There's a. there's a there's a sort of an echo.

quality that's attached to it recently, but [laughter]. no. Yeah, I do. I mean, and terrible. You know, I've had people turn around. during watching a comedy movie and my. laugh bothered them so much they turned. around giving me dirty looks for. laughing at a comedy. [laughter]. >> Uh yeah, it is. Um we remember Dairo. that famous scene in the movie theater. Cape Fear where he's being incredibly. obnoxious and laughing. Um I uh I mean.

you have had uh you're an insane career. um you've been um spec so spectacularly. successful and I thought I'd start at. the beginning which is you've done all. these iconic shows revolutionary shows. movies and you start out working on. shows like my three sons or Andy. Griffith show and I was wondering.

>> my mother the car. >> My mother the car a famous [laughter]. car a famous bond. >> I I if you recall It's about a a man. whose mother dies and comes back as a. talking car. >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. >> It wasn't my idea. I wish it was. >> But um and it was was Jerry Van Djk the. Who was the who was the star? I think it. was Jerry Van Djk maybe was the star of. it. And it's a it was a famous bomb. I. don't know if you they or told you, but. it's a famous bomb. >> Famous as being I I never knew that. No,

>> when I was growing up. >> I I think of it as a sort of moderate. [laughter]. No, no, no. I'm here to tell you famous. bomb. It was a famous [laughter]. >> uh Yeah, there you go. Uh iconic bomb. Everything you do is iconic. But this. was um and I was I was looking at these. early shows and thinking, okay, you go. on to do of course Merit Teller Moore. and Taxi and Roa, all this is like you. are, I think, the best of the very best. of 1970s and ' 80s television. uh.

Simpsons and then you do Terms of. Endurement, which to this day is a movie. my wife and I watch hundreds of times. and beg anyone to watch with us again. because it's so amazing and broadcast. news and it's just it's ridic your your. resume is uh madness and feels like a. fraud like you've made this up. This is. an invention of AI. What were you. learning on the Andy Griffith show? What. were you learning on those early shows?

What did they teach you. >> that that I might survive is is is the. big lesson I think I got out of it. because I came out of here to I came out. to California from a job I really liked. as a news writer in New York um for one. of the networks and. things had been you know I had been. messing up pretty continually and then. thank I got this job without being a. college graduate that you're supposed to. be a college graduate which is was an. usher at CBS That's you're supposed to.

be a college graduate for that job. because it was a it was a. >> like an internship. You. >> step on a ladder. Yeah. Yeah. And. because my sister knew the person who. assisted the person who hired the. ushers, I got the job. >> And um and it's so nuts when I mean when. you look back cuz nothing would have. happened unless that happened. >> Yeah. the way the way it worked out. because then it's always nuts to think. how how luck plays a part. Uh, and then.

the usher staff filled in for sort of. minor jobs when the the when the person. who had the be the better job, the minor. job though in the scheme of things went. on vacation and I filled in for somebody. who was a copy boy desk assistant at CBS. News and um and he didn't come back from. vacation and and [clears throat] it was. just that was the break. Was he lost at. C? [laughter]. It sounds It sounds so ominous.

>> Well, he died. [laughter]. >> Yeah. What did you do to him is the. question. >> It's clear what you did. That's where. your deal with the devil starts. This. unprecedented career. [laughter]. >> Um, so you start that kind of writing. and then at some point you have to say, "All right, television writing is a. possibility.". >> Uh, I never saw it I never saw it as a. possibility. I I I never saw it as a. possibility. somebody I I worked with. when I had a job at a radio station. Uh.

ended up in a docu independent. documentary house here and he offered me. a job and I took it which was leaving. the first secure thing I had in my life. which was a job at CBS. >> in the news division. And then I came. out and I was laid out laid off six. months after I got here. And um and and. then um you know I I. it's not like I always wanted to write.

I always wrote with no notion that I. could do it as a profession. Never never. honestly never occurred to me. I mean it. was it I my ambition was primarily to. survive. I mean that yeah that was it. And um and and you know then I I went to. a we were we were a grubby lot us as as. documentary makers and I went to a a a. party on New Year's Eve and um and we. were there being grubby and a and a tall.

handsome man walks in in a tuxedo and. it's Alan Burns and uh he was he had. five shows that he had created comedy. shows on the air at that time. I mean. and and um and and and. he said asked me he said what do what do. you do and I said well I want to write. and um and he got me a job that's what. he knew he didn't read anything or. anything else he was just he was just. that sweet a guy.

>> and so we yeah so he got me an. assignment and then you know things. started to work. >> you know it's interesting that some of. these shows these early shows like Andy. Griffith show. the past episodes are still magical to. me and it's because it's character. comedy and I'm thinking at some point. you must have learned it's it's not. rapid fire jokes. One of the hallmarks. of your career has been writing that way. within characters. >> Uh I guess [laughter].

>> wait a minute I'm basing this off of. >> Yeah, you've been telling learn you know. what I'm saying. [laughter]. >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. >> Somebody write down what that guy said. >> Wait a minute. I just came to Yoda and. said Yoda I heard there is no try. there's just do what mean you [laughter]. say. who you talk to [laughter]. whatever I guess. uh that's what this feels like right now.

okay forget that [laughter] I'm going. back to just jokes um which is uh which. is what I should do uh you you know it's. funny because huge turning point in your. life Mary Tyler Moore show, a show that. you. create and you did the pitch. >> with Alan Burns. >> With Alan Burns, but did you who' did. you pitch it to? And was Mary Tyler. Moore in the room when you pitched it? >> I had uh done a show um Room 222. >> Love that show. >> And Allan and I met on that show. and.

and uh and Grant Tinker, who was the. >> Mhm. >> who who was the vice president at Fox. and was married to Mary Tyler Moore and. was. >> every time you mention his name was the. best boss that ever happened. He saved. he saved our rear ends. He he. >> I mean he he was amazing in his support. of writers. Just crazy great. We all I. mean we all loved him. He was a magic. man. >> And um we pitched to CBS for the Mary. Tom War Show. pitched a bad idea. I.

mean, our first idea was a bad idea. And. uh my father, the car, [laughter]. [laughter]. so you pitch a bad idea. [laughter]. And uh it was it was an amazing pitch. session because there were like a. semicircle like you do it for like like. a bad science fiction movie, a. semicircle of chairs with all these. people in it. And the the head of.

program, this is a true story, the head. of the head of programming in the middle. of it. And we our first idea. was that she be divorced and coming off. a divorce. Um and and. um and the the guy actually said. there are three things people don't. like. Stories about divorce. I swear to God he. said this cuz we had wrote a character. in it. You know Roa Morgan Stern.

stories about divorce Jews and. mustaches. I'm not making you couldn't make this. up, right? >> Oh my god. >> He's looking at me. a Jew with a. mustache. [laughter] Oh my god. >> As he says it, that really happened in. time and space. That actually happened. >> Yes. The guy was [laughter] looking at. my face saying that. Uh Grant said Grant. went in and and and and we never knew. it. He just said, "Wait for me." He came. out. He looked a little angry and he had.

he had just, you know, used the weight. that he had to save our asses. Unbelievable. So you do this show and. it's interesting in retrospect people. say Mary Tyler Moore show was. revolutionary. She's single. It's a show. uh based about this woman. She has a. career. She she doesn't have. >> she has no steering wheel. >> She has no steering [laughter] wheel. She has a wise cracking. There's no wise. cracking kid. There's no, you know, she. has a mustache. >> She has a mustache. She's secretly. Jewish. [laughter].

>> Morenstein. Um, people talk about it now. being revolutionary and you never saw it. that way while you were making it. You. were just making a show, correct? >> At a certain point, we knew that we were. making the right show at the right time. because it was just sort of what was. happening to to women in general then. So, it was the timing, you know, the. thing that you you can't create yourself. just was right. >> Right. And and coincidentally, it was a. time when the only time in the history. of television when a new president of.

television came over and the first thing. he did was cancel a bunch of top 20. shows because they were all those. bucolic petticoat junction you know. hillbilly shows and he canled them. >> when they were enormously successful. shows. It's never happened before. It. wouldn't you imagine today I think at. the time CBS had maybe nine of the top. you know 20 shows or they were just. killing it with westerns and the.

president of the company said I've. always heard this rumor that it was wife. who was embarrassed by this bucolic. comedy and and thought that it was lame. I don't know if that's true, but um he. came in and he said, "Let's get rid of. all of these." Which can you imagine? >> Enormously successful, highest rated. shows. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And got rid of all of them and put a new. complete new stamp on what CBS was all. about. >> And a half year earlier, >> he had one of the first shows to come. out of that was All in the Family as as.

as he built a new CBS. And then at the. last minute we were in a death time. period with the Mary Tyler Moore show. and he changed us and put us behind all. in the family or else I I don't think we. it would have happened. >> I think we would have been lost. But. it's funny I I think you said no one if. someone sets out to do and again you'll. tell me I never said that. Um but uh. that if you set out anyone who sets out. to make a revolutionary TV show isn't.

going to. >> Yeah. I mean, I think I think with Room. Room 222 because it was I think the. second show to have a black lead, the. first show to have two main black. characters, you know, so that was, you. know, that that felt good. You knew you. were doing it. You knew it was. happening. And uh but this, you know, certainly didn't see it coming. I. remembered room 222. seeing that and noticing the difference. that. these did seem as com, you know, usually.

when high school students were served up. to us, um, it was, you know, guys in. Letterman sweaters and it was it it felt. very much like Azie Nelson, Ricky Nelson. kind of stuff. And this felt like people. I knew. I wasn't in high school. I think. it's 1969, so I was about 6 years old. when that show came out. But I. remembered thinking, "These feel like. people I see in my life and they feel.

authentic." I didn't even probably I. didn't know the word authentic, but it. felt real to me. the director producer. of the show, Gene Reynolds, who was, you. know, when we were working for him and. he kept on uh sending he kept on sending. me back to the high school, kept on. sending me back. I I finished research. I'd go to him. I said, "Yeah, I got it.". "No, you don't go back." And I sat in. classes for a while and there was a. teacher showed up, you know, and and I. and I was hanging at this high school at. his insistence. And you know,

>> do that now and you're in trouble, you. know. [laughter]. I'm working on a TV show. [laughter]. >> I don't think you are, sir. Come with. us. >> I thought it was raining. That's why I'm. wearing this [laughter] coat. >> Why do you have all that candy now? That's a different story. [laughter]. I have low blood sugar. Um I think a. huge, [laughter] you know, it's. interesting too. This was an era when. you feel like there was real leadership.

in television. real, you know, people. like Grant Tinker who had taste and. would go out on a limb and they weren't. just trying to follow the latest trend. Um, when I was in college and working on. the humor magazine, The Lampoon, I was. there all the time. I practically lived. in that building because I was obsessed. with comedy. And one night there was a. knock at the door and I opened the door. and there in a double- breasted suit is.

Grant Tinker and he was standing with. Brandon Tardicov. >> Wow. >> And they were doing some event at. Harvard and they saw this building and. they knew, oh, you know, some funny. writers are coming out of that place and. they just wanted to see it. So they. knocked on the door and I opened the. door and they asked for a tour. I was. 19, I think, and I just led them around. the building and showed them everything. and answered all their questions and. worked up the nerve to make a couple of. quips along the way. And then uh as they. walked out the door, you know, I.

remembered Brennan uh Grant Tinker. looked like someone out of Guys and. Dolls. He had like a pinstripe suit, you. know, but I led them around and then I, you know, took them to the front door. and I remember Brandon Tardikov just. saying like, "Well, Conan, you're a. funny guy." [laughter]. I think I lived off that for a decade. Did you ever tell them that after you. had arrived in television? >> I don't think so. I mean, uh, I did a. pilot with with Robert Smile and I did a. a pilot with Brennan Tardikov. I don't. know that I took the chance in our one.

or two meetings with him. Amazing. And. these were people with. >> uh real talent and taste and. sensibility. >> Uh, and I think that's in short supply. these days. Um, you know, so many people. are running scared in not just. television but film. This people are. running for cover that it's uh I don't. know if we'll see their like again. >> It was data. It was all you know these. are this is before data.

>> Yes. >> Yes. I mean they had their thing but it. was very rudimentary. >> No. Now we have actual computers that. tell us we don't like Jews mustaches or. divorce. [laughter]. >> Turns out they were right. Um, I don't know why we fought it so hard. Um, uh, I'm very curious about Mary Tyler. Moore because she, uh, she played a big. part in my life because when I first got. my late night show, um, for reasons I still don't.

understand. And I was under fire for. this this kid doesn't have it. Who is. he? He seems awkward. Um, uh, this isn't. going to make it. Mary Tyler Moore was. my second guest. She was the guest on. the first guest on the second show and. then came back routinely and was an. incredible talk show guest. Um, and of. course I couldn't believe that I was. sitting here talking to someone who was. coming through my television Dick Van. Djk show on a black and white TV in my.

kitchen in Brooklyn, Mass. And I'm. eating bologn strips my mother put in a. bowl and I'm watching this person. Yeah, I was being punished. [laughter]. I was on war rations. But um that was a. big meal back then. [laughter] But I. mean it was a big it was a it was a big. I I had this feeling of she is making. eye contact with me and using my first. name and it still seems unreal to me. But she was um. what was working with her like on that.

show? There's a there was an. extraordinary thing she did that she was. the the great star of the show and she. she used all the power she had not to. have the power and to be and to make it. a company and to make everybody you know. feel like that. >> an ensemble. Yeah. >> Yeah. So it was never like, you know, we. had to worry what would Mary think. I. mean, you know, we'd have a run through, we'd try and fix whatever, you know, needed fixing. And and she never came to.

the office. We were on we and at seven. years we got I remember the the best. thing I did in my life is they were. saying, "Let's let's go out while we're. ahead. Let's call it a go. Let's call it. a go at six." And I said, "Seven." So. that was the that was the. >> I just bought a boat. >> The best word. [laughter]. That's the great motivator. Buy a boat. and you'll do three [laughter] more. seasons. Also, I'd never buy I never believe get. out while you're ahead. [laughter]. No, I if I buy a boat, it's going to be.

called the SS. Write it to the bottom. [laughter]. But so so you wanted seven and I know. she did have a note or I believe she had. a note on the final episode. >> Yes. >> One of the few times that she. >> never the first time. The only time. seven years never did it. never came to. our office to to to to say something and. we had had we wrote a a we it was you. know it was it was nuts be it was nuts. the nation stopped for our final show it. was like crazy you can't there's I I I.

you know it's it was crazy the extent of. it. >> do you remember the share or the number. that it got because. >> that's an era that has passed you know. the Super Bowl wouldn't get the share or. the number. >> I'm not into numbers 52% % I think. [laughter]. >> Uh I always heard it was 51. It was 52. [laughter]. Forgetting Iowa. Okay. Okay. Incredible. And so she had but she had a note on the.

last episode which was. >> that everybody had said their farewell. and we hadn't done it for her. >> Oh wow. And and I don't I don't can't. imagine I I don't I can't explain it. But then we did it and and it's one of. the best moments I've ever been part of. >> Is it the shuffling out together? >> Oh. Oh, that was that was on the set. That was great. They There were We were. We were running it and they get get into. a group hug. >> They're all saying goodbye and it's.

over. >> They're in a group hug. They're all. hugging each other. six I think six. people hugging each other and they're. crying and they said um and it was like. there was something where who had. Kleenex in the hug and in dress we said. no no the Kleenex is on the table so the. group [laughter]. >> hugging each other to the table such a I. mean I remember. >> and it was the way to go out it was just. it was just the way to go out. >> and there was a famous episode where the.

lights Mary's going to have a party her. parties always go badly. She says that Johnny Carson's coming to. the party. Of course, Johnny Carson is. the biggest star in television. We are excited that he's going to show. up. >> and all we knew was that he was he was. he would do the show and then we made. that show because we heard that he'd do. it. >> Yeah. >> So, so, >> so you made the show because Johnny. Carson said he'd do it, which was an. impossibility. He didn't do things. It's. not like today where everybody's. everywhere. It just was, you couldn't. believe that the most famous man in.

America is gonna and who doesn't do. anything other than the Tonight Show is. going to show up and the lights go out. Mary's apartment loses its lights and. then Johnny Carson enters in the dark. >> and you hear him and it was. >> you never saw him. you never saw him and. it was you got Johnny Carson and had the. balls to say you're never going to and. you heard him. >> and you couldn't believe that this show. would get Johnny Carson and then not. show him [laughter] and just you could.

hear his voice. >> Um and it was just magical. and you have. this run in television and then you say, "Okay, I'm going to do movies." And. that's the leap that I always think is. fascinating when someone says, "I think. I could do this. I could make a movie.". I would, of course, I've never had that. impulse. I've never thought I could. direct. But clearly, this is just. something that was in you. You knew this.

is something I I could. >> I can't I I I can't explain it. I I did. I had no ambition to be a director. I I. I just simply didn't. >> So your first feature film is Terms of. Endearment. >> Yeah. >> A movie you can go back to and back to. and back to again. And it's become more. relevant because of the way we. experience news. Now it is prophetic. It's, you know, talking about emotion. and drama being inserted into the news. and people being a news man being.

relatable. >> You're talking about a broadcast. >> I'm sorry about broadcast news. I was. I'm sorry. Thank Thank you so much. I. was I was trying to think I was trying. to I was just trying to think how to. save him. >> That [laughter] that's I just want I. just want you to know there was no I. didn't recoil. I actually wanted to come. to his aid. [laughter]. >> Let me explain something to you. >> That's the kind of guy. >> Let me explain something to you. >> Maybe you haven't watched it in a while. [laughter]. >> I'm doubling down. Terms of endearment. begins. >> Begins in a news. >> You got to make this podcast less. I. just bought a boat. [laughter]. >> Keep it going. >> Okay. Uh I apologize. And you will fix.

this. I know you will. Um, >> no, you have to leave it. I mean, >> no, but all [laughter]. and if you say it, um, listen, I'm gonna. make it very clear to you that I was. right the first time. And I find that I. if I never apologize, and I'm seeing. this play out in in public life, in. politics, there. uh, the original terms of endearment was. a version of broadcast news, [laughter]. >> and it's a really weird turn when. everyone decides to abandon the.

newsroom. Um, did you feel comfortable. the minute you were directing? Did you. did it feel to you like this was I feel. like a duck in water, you know? >> I was I was working with, you know, with. Jack Nicholson and he was, you know, the. the the man, the guy, the star, and um, he made it great because he'd come up to. me, you know, sort of like he said, "You. want to know the worst direction you. gave today?" [laughter]. And then he said, "You want to know the. best direction?" And and. >> so he was tutoring you a little bit.

>> He was he was being great to me. He was. just he was just he was just sort of. half sort of three quarter getting but. just in my corner and and that's that's. what that's that's that made it work. >> I would imagine you'd be intimidated a. little by him. He was a you know just he. still is massive star. >> No, he was I mean it's great actor. I. mean that you know I mean you know that. was that was what you had to work with. you know. Yeah. And then there was a. scene I think it was in that movie. There was a scene because there was a.

scene where where he had a I I came to. him and he said he this actually. happened. I said too angry too it's just. too angry and and then I said again you. know that it was just too angry. And. then he did the scene and sort of blew. up that I kept kept on doing this you. know just he was just blowing up not. performance. And I said that's it. And. and that was, you know, and then we both. I mean he broke up and I broke up and.

you know and but it was it it was just. it seemed too angry until suddenly it. was like nobody had ever done it just. like that. >> I'd always heard is it true that Bert. Reynolds turned down that role and did. Stroker Ace instead. >> No, he did a picture he did a different. picture. He did a picture with like a. like 12 women in it and him or something. like that. >> That's the movie we all want to make. >> Yeah. [laughter]. and and and and and he was the number. one box office star in America. He had. said he'd do it and then he turned it.

down for this movie. >> and you know and I had the number one. star doing my movie and then I got a. phone call from his press agent. Bert's. decided not to do the movie, but he. wants you to know he loves you. >> And and um and he sent a little jacket, a little that that that the jacket I. just looked at it and it was medium and. I'm a large. [laughter]. >> Oh man. Oh, Bert. [laughter].

>> Yeah, >> it was just the jacket he was wearing. that day. Yeah, it was just whatever he. was. It had Burnt written in it in ink. >> Just said Gumm Smoke on it. [laughter]. >> Absolutely incredible. I mean, I I'm. intend to embarrass you with this, but. you've got three Oscars, 22 Emmys, a. Golden Globe. >> Jeez, >> you need to immediately be in a Broadway. show cuz we need to get you a Tony. >> and uh I think you're set, right?

>> A Grammy. >> A Grammy. Damn it. You need a Grammy. >> Well, Golden Globes could be the G in. there. >> Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you got to get the. EGOT. That's There are very few that can. claim that. I'm sorry. I think these are good ideas. I'm pitching you. [laughter]. Oh, you used to like my ideas. Now, check. >> Please, [laughter]. sir. Please. We try again with a. different pasta. [laughter]. >> Um, you took a hiatus from directing for.

how many years? >> I don't know, man. [laughter]. Hey, are you high? >> I don't know, man. >> I don't know, man. Leave me alone. >> You got nothing better to talk about? [laughter]. >> Well, you took a you It's This is the. first movie, Ella McKay. Your new movie. is the first one you've directed in 15. years, I believe. >> Yeah. >> And did it feel when you got on set like. you're just right back where you. started? Yeah, there was I I I was.

producing other o other films and and. and and I was and Ahmad said all the. time when I do that and I was working I. just you know I don't even I can't I. have no explanation for it and um and. then I went I was going nuts because I. think you know I'm not myself unless I'm. writing and and then um and and that's. and Elma case you know happened that. way. >> Yeah. And um you have terrific cast. >> Yeah. Um, and I was very happy to see.

Julie Cavner. >> in there. I mean, she's I know she's. been a long part of your history, but I. got to know her at the Simpsons and. she's just a. >> force is God. You I mean, will you look. at the movie, >> you know? [laughter] I mean, just. because you're going to feel great see. you're going to feel great seeing her. She she takes she starts the movie. That's what I love. She's the narrator. and she starts by looking and I love the. narrator saying, "I'm the narrator and. this is what's happening." I felt very. taken care of by her, you know.

>> Oh, great. Yeah. Lovely. Yeah. Yeah. >> And she's I mean that voice which I I. mean first got that voice was first. burned into my brain on Roa I believe is. where I first heard it. >> Yeah. When she was a kid. That was her. Yeah. That was. >> Yeah. And um and it's just lovely to she. just cuts through everything and I know. oh I know her. >> Yeah. >> She's going to hold my hand and and and. take me through this journey. >> I show me the person who doesn't love. her. I mean it's just especially you.

know and that happens in the in the. movie and and she's the one she's. literally the narrator taking you. through it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Did it feel to you when you were. making it like this is the experience. I've had before after taking a break for. a while. Did it feel like yes, I'm. putting on an old an old coat. This fits. this process. You know, >> you know, when you're going to direct. it, it's it's sort of um you you leave. the world, you know, but you know, you. leave the world even more intense than. when you're writing. I think when you.

when God knows you leave the world a bit. >> and these days. to have an idea and to say gee that's. sort of funny and sort of you know maybe. and to be able to get a movie made out. of it you got to appreciate the out. of it you know because it's it's it's. not those kind of days and um. >> specifically I mean how is it different. just that there's so. >> I mean I mean what's the thing about. data you know this that that you know. this will work because you run the. numbers and stuff like that and there. are no.

There are no numbers to run on. Hey, I. got an idea and you know, so so so. you're lucky. You're you're you know, it's it's great. You get you get to make. it and I got to make it. >> You probably won't remember this, but. you came on my show early days. I think. 1994. >> I might have still been writing it. Yeah, [laughter]. I spent a long time on that script. Yeah. Uh, but you uh you came on my talk. show, the the late night show, and you. um we got into this conversation about.

how well you write for women, which uh. is in full force in Ella Mccay. And you. talked then, and I thought I'd revisit. it now just briefly, which is that you. were raised by women. And you think that. had a profound effect on your ability to. write for those characters? >> Yeah. The conversations of women were, you know, my whole upbringing. There was. hard stuff going on and and I was a.

child and I always heard my mother and. her two sisters were enormously close. Uh and I I just her and my you know I. had an older sister who helped raise me. because you know circumstances were you. know just um tough for a while and um. and I heard and I did I was I I grew up. hearing them talk. It's also interesting. to me that in this movie past trauma. informs everything that's happening for.

the character of Ella. It's like the. things that she's gone through with her. father and the death of her mother. It's. all informed and and her family and and. even her husband. People are. she's she's not catching a break from a. lot of people in her life. >> And and it's it's interesting to me that. it's not unlike your story where you had. some traumatic experiences when you were. younger. >> That that's the same. But but she's.

she's a remarkable kid. >> Yeah. >> She's a remarkable kid who as a. remarkable kid has to handle things no. kid should have to handle. And the thing. that that held it up for a long time was. finding out who could play the part. Uh. because because you know the the thing. that was in my mind was to kind was I. always loved those Katherine Heer and. Audrey Hepper movies, those 1950s. movies. That was I mean I was I was nuts. about them. And this is this was really, you know, me trying to copy them.

[laughter]. >> Yeah. >> It's Yeah. Yeah. >> It was fascinating. >> Homage. I think homage is the better. word. Yes. [laughter]. >> Everything's an homage. >> Writers guild. It's an homage. >> In tribute to in tribute to. >> But it's interesting because my. experience with you on the Simpsons was. you would always remind us, make sure. you're writing for Lisa, make sure. you're writing for Marge. Because left. to my own devices, I would only write. about Mr. Burns. I mean, [laughter].

I only wanted, you know, because because. he had unlimited wealth and was uh in. evil. >> Um you that's [clears throat] a fantasy. for me that I can uh you can have a. character who has a hyperbaric chamber, golden robots, you can release hounds, anything can happen. And if left if I. was just left alone in a room, every. single episode I wrote would have been. Mr. Burns goes to college, Mr. Burns, [laughter]. Mr. Burns gets his period, you know, uh,

which is one I wrote, [laughter] um, projected cuz they said science doesn't. back this. But anyway, that's uh that. was your voice was was often heard in. the room saying we need to make sure. that this this family exists and that. all of these characters are utilized and. that they're real. Even if amazing, weird, strange things are happening in a. cartoon, it has to have this inner. integrity, >> which I still think is.

[laughter]. >> I just wanted to get you here to tell. you that. I mean, it's it's always funny. is always the object, but but yeah, but. I think Yeah, I Yeah, I think it it. Yeah, I think that was always true about. that show. I think is true about the. show. >> It's unbelievable that it's still going. I mean, to me, it's been I left that. show in 1993 and said, "Well, you know, I'm out of here and this thing's got. another year to go. There's. >> unfold without me.".

>> Yeah. There's no way this continues. without me. Um, which I say whenever I. leave a room. I say that at parties. I. say that when I leave a restaurant. [laughter]. This Denny's will will surely perish. without my um so I'm shocked when I see. them still functioning. But uh I um. yeah, and then I've had the experience. of going back. 30 years later and the and they're some. of the same people are there. It's. absolutely incredible. They're chained. to the wall. They're skeletons. I mean,

it's incredible. But um it's one of the great success. stories in TV history. >> It's amazing to me. It's amazing to. everybody on the you know it's it's just. it is it is it's it's um Yeah. And and. we we went on when the Fox network was. >> Yes. >> was was on on life support. >> Yes. >> And then we got um the cover of a. magazine sort of like Antenna News or. something like that. It was a It was It.

was It was You never heard of the. magazine, but we were on the cover and I. put it on my office wall and then and. then all of a sudden that wall was. covered with covers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It was like crazy. >> It was a phenomenon. And uh it was the biggest thing. Michael. Jackson. I mean, talk about talk about. Johnny Carson doing the doing Mary Tyler. Moore as a guest star. You think, well, you can't top that. But Michael Jackson.

in I think 1988 or ' 89 appearing as a. guest star. >> And you had Carson, too, right? Didn't. he didn't? >> Carson was there. I I was there the day. Carson came in to do his voice cuz he's. uh I think he's helping out Crusty at. one point. And it was just after Johnny. had retired. and wasn't doing anything. And then he. said he'd do The Simpsons. And I it's. burned into my brain that day cuz he. came in coolest looking guy ever. He had. a Phileofax and two packs of cigarettes.

unopened. And um he sat down, he did his voices, he did his records and then we of course. had a million things we wanted him to. sign. And so he sat there signing and. started talking to us and we were asking. questions. I think he liked being around. a room of writers and he missed it and. he chatted with us. And then I went out, I had to do something. And when I came. back, he was just walking to his white. Corvette. Every year I think he got a. brand new white Corvette and he got in.

it and he had his cool sunglasses on and. he said, "Uh, I don't do a Johnny. Carson, but uh, excuse me. Uh, how do. I?" And I said, "You go down there and. you take a right." And he said, "Thank. you." And he took off. >> That was pretty good. He took off. He. took off and he took a right-hand turn. And just as he took the right-hand turn, I remembered it's a left. >> Oh no. And I'm dying and I'm watching. watching and what here he's going is to. a culde-sac that takes you pretty much. to like Olympic Boulevard but there's. you can't access it because it's a lot. >> Oh, you suck. >> And I waited and then after about a.

minute and a half the car came back the. other way. >> And so I know that Johnny Carson was. thinking [laughter]. looking. >> You should have said I SAID LEFT. I SAID LEFT, YOU WHITE-HAIRED. [laughter]. Oh my god. >> Uh, man, opportunities missed. I wish. you had been there, but uh yeah, absolutely amazing. This has been a joy.

Uh, thank you so much for taking the. time. Congrats on your new movie, uh, Ella McKay, and, uh, just getting to any. chance I ever have to connect with you. is magical for me, man. You've made a. huge difference in my life, and I I. can't thank you enough. >> Mumble, mumble. Yeah, >> mumble, [laughter] mumble, mumble, mumble, mumble, mumble. >> Yeah. No, thank you. Thank you. >> We're going to put in using AI, we're. going to put you in the end saying, "Please, Conan, you're the most talented. person I've ever met [laughter]. >> and you're going to hear it later, and.

there's going to be a lawsuit. and we're going to insert a lot of. things. Conan, you look fantastic. [laughter]. >> But we'll keep this part in as well. >> Yes. Yes. We'll keep this in exposing my. terrible crime. >> Okay. [music]. >> I'll admit I'm a little terrified. because Aaron Blair aka Bl says he has. an idea for a segment and um you know I. guess we don't know what it is.

>> We don't know what it is. So here we go. BL I I tremble but you have the floor. >> So uh I don't normally do this as you. know and and I like to think of myself. generally as a unifier bringing people. together. I don't want to be divisive. I. don't want to tear us apart as a group. >> Uh but you know sometimes uh. >> this preamble is going on forever. You. know sometimes a man comes to a time in. life. >> Well it's not it's not a very there's. not a lot too a lot not a lot of meat on. this bone. I'm trying to draw.

>> in mind you threw Eduardo under the bus. for watching. >> soccer. But also I will say shots were. taken at me so I feel like you know uh. uh you know turnabout is fair play. >> I still don't know what you're talking. about and we're 40 minutes. >> I'm going to get to it now. I'm going to. get to it now. So Chelmi and I uh after. every podcast we clean up. You know we. want to we want to leave a good studio. for a nice clean studio for the next. people coming in. And um the other day. uh I found this in Matt Gorly's chair. >> Oh no. Oh,

>> a used Kleenex. >> Well, obviously squirreled away. >> I didn't know that was. >> in the chair. Uh which I cleaned up and. I just I have to say that's disgusting. >> Matt came at me. Matt came at me with my. multiple drinks in a previous I was just. curious about it. >> And so I saw this and I was like, "Oh, I. got him. I got him." I obviously would. have left that there if I knew. >> Yeah. First of all, first of all, Matt. is an extremely uh cleanly person. Uh.

>> cleanly. >> What? >> I can't speak anymore. >> You could just say clean person. >> No, he is one who cleanly clings to. >> this. Um [laughter]. Matt is a man of cleanness. You are uh I. barely shower. [laughter]. >> No, that is. >> He's trying to help you. No, no. That is. uncharacteristic of Matt and I'm sure he. just forgot it. >> I find it interesting that you think he. came at you for your different drinks. because I thought it was just him. saying, "Hey, what's that all about?". >> But it's a deep wound for you. I didn't.

realize you were now a ringless Gollum. in your cave. [laughter]. >> He clearly. just like the drugs backfired on you. I. knew this was going to happen. >> It was hostile. >> I'm just saying. >> the way you went at him was a little. hostile. I I like to bring people. together, but I I keep saying that, but. I don't think you do. Um. >> I think it's indicative of a bigger. issue, which is. >> we don't really clean up after ourselves. that well. You especially. >> I do. I just miss that. >> You have a thousand drinking vessels and.

none of them get picked up afterwards. >> Okay, let's look at the whole picture. When you guys say we've got to clear out. of this room and make way for the next. uh you know taping, I'm thinking to. myself, uh this is my building. This [laughter]. is was the only reason this exists is. for Conan O'Brien needs a friend. This. is my studio. And then it suddenly it. turned out to be this Airbnb that I get. to hang out in [laughter]. for like 20 minutes and then I better.

get my ass out of here. AND YOU BETTER. CLEAN UP. NO, NOT AT ALL. THAT'S INSANE. >> This is outrageous. >> This is my I'm Hurst and this is Hurst. Castle. [laughter]. One, I've got three mugs here. Two are. filled with coffee cuz I drink a lot of. coffee. I've also got a tea. I've also. got these Kleenex, which by the way, I'm. more [laughter] than happy to throw all. over the place. [screaming]. >> I got to CLEAN THAT UP. [laughter].

THERE'S just tissues everywhere. >> Listen to me. I didn't claw my way to. the top of [laughter] this business so. that I could better get out of here. quickly to make way for the other. podcast that's coming in. HANGING WITH. JOE BIBAI. [laughter] BUT FIRST, I. BETTER clean up after myself. Let's see now. Now I'm got all these. little cups. Better take them in. Uh-oh.

He's coming. I better wash everything. thoroughly. NO, [laughter]. NO, NO. >> Evie does run run run a tight ship. >> She does. >> She does. She. >> We are a little scared of her. >> I am so terrified of Eie. And. >> Erica Brown, >> I will say Erica Brown and and uh this. is her place. She runs it. She's the. queen. And when she even looks at me, if. I'm using one of those metal straws, uh, I I know my only thought in my head is. not to enjoy my Haley Bieber smoothie.

[laughter] since No longer named the. Haley Bieber Smoothie, by the way. I. don't know if there was some Yeah, I. think she got into a fight with uh. >> I don't think maybe her the contract. expired. >> Oh, wow. >> It's no longer called a Haley Bieber. smoothie. Um, [snorts] and uh. >> that means you could get in there and. get in there. It could be your smoothie. >> I want to uh get that smoothie. I think. I probably have to add something. So, I'll just say like throw some uh I don't. know, put a Snickers bar in there and. call [laughter] it the Conan O'Brien. Um.

put a little creme dementh in there. Um. [laughter] so, uh yeah, my point was. where were we? >> I was saying you're talking a big game. about making a mess, but if Erica Brown. walks in here, you will. clean up after yourself cuz you're. scared a little bit as we all are. >> Erica Brown out by the kitchen. If I. even see her, I start scrubbing. surfaces. [laughter]. >> I suddenly. >> You were TALKING SUCH A BIG NAME. >> THAT'S TRUE. NO, THAT'S TRUE. BUT in. here Oh, no. I might risk the.

disapproval of Bla. [laughter]. THAT. THAT. I hired you when you were a. fetish. [laughter]. I was the one that removed your. umbilical cord. You still had it. attached. >> This is crazy cuz normally I would be. defending you. I'm your biggest. defender. And now since you know you. teed me up, I say you go, >> b and so no, if you have to do a little. cleaning afterwards, Bl. I mean, I've. kept you in your in your faux goofy. watches. [laughter].

>> That's right. >> You live in a in an apartment that's. filled with little action figures. >> Life-sized predator statue. >> Yeah. Is that right? >> Yeah. Well, one day saving up for it. >> Saving up. Yeah. [laughter] It was It. was either that. >> or a wife OR MUCH NEEDED. >> [laughter]. >> LET'S SEE. LIFE OR a life-sized predator. statue. [laughter]. Um, anyway, Bl, I respect uh where. you're coming from. Uh, it's just that. you're completely wrong. Okay. >> I apologize you and chills. I'm very.

conscientious about that thing. It's not. like I ever walked in on cash peeing or. anything like [laughter] that. So, >> I It was all in good fun. I I I again, I. was It was all in in justest. I really. don't care. I just was seeing it as a. good opportunity to get you back for the. drinks. >> Hey, listen. We got and I also got. burned by Conan like you got burned with. the drinks. So now we're even. >> Listen. Listen. The important thing is. that if people are hating each other and. trying to get each other, [laughter]. we've recreated my childhood. >> And I'm very happy. >> I hate how you have like pulled the.

strings to make us all go at each. [laughter] other when we should be going. after you. Why are we Why are we. divided? We should be united. >> You're right. The devil's greatest trick. is making you believe he doesn't exist. [laughter] Well, anyway, Conor O'Brien. needs a friend. The happy friendly show. by a guy with no inner demons. [laughter] And just like that, he was. gone. >> All right, everybody, clean up after. yourselves. [laughter].

That was fun.