Greta Lee (Full Episode) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

Hi, my name is Greta Lee and I feel. [laughter]. excited. >> OH MY GOD. [laughter]. >> ABOUT BEING Conan O'Brien's friend. >> Greta, you just set the record. You set. the record. >> That was the longest. Uh, it wouldn't be.

the longest intro because that record is. held by Jeff Global who went. for maybe 45 minutes, but there was just. silence. >> I just died a little bit and then came. back to life. [music]. >> Hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien. Needs a Friend. I am Conan O'Brien, of. course, joined by my two chums, pals, amigos. They're my ride along buddies. That's right. Sona Massian, >> what's up?

>> And what? And uh Okay. I don't think you. really want to know what's up with me. I. think you just said that. >> I do. I didn't. >> Matt Girly, how are you, Matt? >> I'm good. Did you kind of mean ride or. die? Cuz ride along feels like we're. you're a cop and we're like your kids. >> I think comedically I'm an expert and. you two are researching the role of. being funny and you're riding along with. me. Okay. >> But then we stop and we're involved in a. shootout. >> But [clears throat] we also don't have a. choice to who we get to ride along with, learn how to be funny. Exactly. [laughter]. You know, you want it to be, "Hey, I.

want to ride along with Bill Hater." No, that's not going to work out. You're. with Conor O'Brien. What's our shootout? >> Sometimes you do get phrases wrong. >> I do. Yeah. >> Yeah. And it makes me laugh. Like you. said, cute meat the other day when we. were recording and it's me cute. >> Yeah. But you know what? You can flip. those around whatever you want. I play. with language like James Joyce. I'm. constantly No, no. I'm very creative. with it. You're like, "The rule is to. say it this way." Well, you're just. saying it incorrectly. Cute meat is not. the right way to say it. Right along.

makes no sense. >> Meat implies like they didn't have a. meat cute, but they just saw each other. and went, "Hey, you kind of got cute. meat." You know, >> like your meat is cute. >> Oh, >> you guys are terrific. [laughter] And by. the way, >> I want I want you out of my comedy cop. car. >> We can't. These doors are You can't. >> I I don't follow the rules. I don't you. want to color inside the lines and do a. good job with your talking. I'm all over. the map. [laughter]. Uh I and I think that it's the way to.

go. >> I think it's just important like you. remind me sometimes of my mom. >> and she is not a native English speaker. So you you the two of you have the same. sort of grasp on a lot of like. >> you say cathartic like he [laughter]. does. >> Do you say cathartic? >> I like to throw a C in there. It makes. it gives it an arctic chill. [laughter]. >> Oh, it's I didn't realize it was on. purpose. >> Yeah. Wow. I'm telling you, there's a. lot that I do that and you're thinking,

of course, you're the guy that if you. got in a time machine would go back to. look at Picasso and go, "No, no, no. Not. two eyes on one side of the head. This. will never work. Make cats with big. eyes." [laughter]. Um, and and that's why uh you know uh your. time travel adventures are always just. terrible. >> But what I do is I play with the forms. I'm very elastic and creative. >> It's all on purpose. >> Of course it is.

>> Yeah. >> What are you talking about? >> You say Saturday Night Live weird too, which we've talked about. >> Well, that was years ago. Saturday. lives. Yeah. >> Yeah. You did it. Well, I told you what. happened. Lauren is from the deep south. and then he invented this whole thing. think I knew this whole thing about. being from Toronto, but when I first met. him, he was like, "Hello, Cody. Welcome. to Silent Li." [laughter]. >> He was drinking a mint jeulip and he was. fanning himself. He was sitting on a big. porch. >> Big spread down there in Alabama. Anyway, it's nice. >> Uh, sure. Okay. I will try to conform to.

your more legalistic ways of speaking. >> We could do you. We could go We could go. on a comedic ride along. That's what it. is. So, we're both like in the backseat. of. >> And you say I remind you of your mom. And you remind me of. >> She created you and I created you. So. that makes sense. >> Okay. All right. You know what? >> She birthed you. I don't know how to. argue. She birthed you as a human. And I. I saw you uh and I cleaned you up a. little bit and then touched you with my. magic wand. And now you're international. star. Son of obsessive. [clears throat]. >> I can't even argue cuz you're kind of.

right. >> And I did clean you up. You were a mess. >> You did not clean me up. I was fine. >> Covered in leaves when I met you. >> Okay. >> Uh so here we are. And I think it's good. we got that out. It was very cathartic. [laughter]. >> You say words incorrectly. You sound like my mom and she's an. immigrant. You don't know how to speak English. sometimes. Even though you were born.

here and you went to college here. You're supposed to be a writer, but how? >> I love that. The teacup is the. [laughter] best part. I should be insulted, but that's one of. the better songs I've heard. [laughter]. >> Yes, >> it was brilliant. That was really nice. >> Thank you. >> I will be paying you back for that for. weeks and weeks to come. >> I know. >> And so, um, >> my lawyers will be in touch. >> Your lawyers? [laughter]. Your lawyers?

>> You mean the ones that are suing you? >> Yeah. David Melman. >> She uses the lawy she uses lawyers that. are suing her. >> That's like when you go to buy a house. and you go to the seller's realtor and. go, "Hey, could you represent me, too?". >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Um All right. Well, let's get into it. because this is quite a show we have. today. My guest uh this uh this fine day. is a talented actress who starred in the. fantastic film Past Lives. She also. voiced Lilyad. in Toy Story 5. So, this I've heard of.

it. >> Yeah. Toy Story 5 is uh many people say. the performances in Toy Story 5 are the. best performances ever recorded. >> I heard that but there was they said. they singled out one they said every. single performance they said one. performance in particular. >> really made it. >> Greta Lee. >> It was Greta Lee. [laughter]. >> Well anyway now you can see her in the. new Netflix movie The Last House. Uh. she's lovely, super talented, so happy. she stopped by the podcast today. Greta. Lee, welcome.

>> [music]. >> You and I have had some opportunity to. hang recently because we are part of the. most successful movie of all time. >> Oh, is that right? Is it. >> I just said that. >> you guys are in the Odyssey. [laughter]. >> Yes, we were. >> Why yes, we are there. Did you not make. it until the [laughter] end? >> We are there. We're definitely. >> People have always said I have a Matt. Damon quality and I pulled it off. He. was unavailable. Um, [laughter]. >> yeah, >> we are in this movie together and you.

were fantastic, by the way. And this. this thing, I don't know about you, but. I'll get these uh William Morris. Endeavor will send me like a thing that. says, you know, Toy Story 5 has now. passed the $800 billion mark, which. entitles you to a check for $75. [laughter]. And I'm just really excited. So, I just. go like, "Yay, ice cream's on me.". >> Yeah, exactly. >> It's really fun. It it is very fun. I. Yeah. And I I don't want to be go about. it and bring up, you know, the numbers.

that. >> I'm sure your numbers are very. different. You could carve out, you. know, but you know, a lot of people in. America, and um I'm I know this to be. true. I have facts on this, see that the. emotional core of the film, Smarty. Pants, uh and Lily Pad. Um and there's a. lot of like Tom Hanks, Who? >> Joan Caua. I mean, there's a lot of that going on. that is going on right now. How are you? >> In my mind, it's going on in my mind. >> No, it's definitely I'm not on social. media, so [laughter] I am the right.

person to confirm it's definitely going. on. It's been the blowback. Wow. >> Incredible. >> Have you Have you checked in on Tom? Is. he okay? >> Tom [laughter] is Tom is depressed. >> So depressed. >> He's flatlining. >> Yeah. >> And um you know, just I mean these guys. Tim Allen hasn't spoken since the movie. came out. >> because they're just decimated by all. the love. >> Yeah. for Lily Pad. Smarty Pants. Um, did you have fun doing it? Cuz that was. an insane experience. >> The press tour or the actual recording. of the movie? >> Press tours are just I don't even know.

what to say about press tours. Increasingly, they're more embarrassing. >> Yeah. I would say this one though, compared to some others, it was pretty. okay in terms of the embarrassment. factor. I mean, I I thought we did some. honorable work out there. >> We did some honorable work out there. My. favorite part was getting tossed in in a. in Tom Hanks and I were tossed into a. van, driven down to Disneyland, and they. said, "We want you to get shot in the. theme in the theme park, you know, videotape of you in the theme park for.

promotion, and we'll So, our characters. are behind us going, this is real. This. is real." So, we go down there, they. take us through all these different. tunnels. They put us up uh in front of. this tunnels. Yeah, they put us up in. Oh, your graffiti is all over the place. [laughter]. >> Um a lot of you know those tunnels and a. lot of Matt's a dick. Um [laughter] but. >> he worked there at Disneyland. >> Oh yeah. >> Back in the day. He was a talking trash. can. >> Um and I make fun of him cuz I'm a. talking toilet train toilet [laughter].

paper. Um. >> how the mighty. >> Yeah, exactly. You actually have the the. superior position on me. But anyway, they had us pose in front of this flat. that could have been anywhere. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It It could have been anywhere. Why did. we have to. >> You're method actors. You're performers. You take this seriously. [laughter]. >> They're not going to shaft you like. that. They're going to put like a green. screen behind you. >> Exactly. No, Greta. Once again, as I've. always said about Greta Lee, she's. always right. She's always right. >> You've always said that. >> Um, you are a lovely person to hang with.

and talk to and so we we've been trying. to figure out, you're very busy. when. could we get you here on the podcast to. chat? And so I'm so glad you're here. >> Yeah, you got me. >> Yep. [laughter]. >> This is our first six-hour podcast. We've never done one of these, >> right? It's a sixparter, right? >> Yeah, it's a sixarter. >> Is it six hours in one sitting or have. to come back six times? >> It's cheaper to do six hours in one. sitting. >> Okay, got it. >> So, and no bathroom breaks. >> Oh, great. [laughter] I have my. catheter. Let's go. I'm ready. >> Uh, so much to talk about. Uh, and I'd.

like to set the stage a little bit. Uh. you're uh born and raised in Los. Angeles. >> Uh your parents are immigrants from. South Korea. >> So that culture is super strong when. you're growing up. >> Super super strong. >> I remember in in my family, which is. Irish Catholic, there were certain. messages we got loud and clear. Yeah. >> Uh about how to behave and what's okay. and what's not okay. I'm imagining it's. the same thing in the South Korean. diaspora.

>> Yeah. I'm still not in the clear, [laughter]. >> you know, [clears throat] like I'm still. being tested. I I don't think I've. passed yet. >> What's the message that you were given, whether uh out loud or just subtly? Was. it to be quiet? Was it to be a certain. kind of. >> person? Well, I don't want to be. dramatic, but it it was like, you are. not enough. [laughter]. >> Stop being so loud. Be a lady. be more. respectful.

Um, stop trying to be funny. It's just. weird. >> Also kind of not ladylike. >> Yeah. >> To be funny. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I feel. it's funny hearing colleagues and other. artists talk about especially people who. do comedy, their childhoods filled with, you know, watching SNL together on the. couch and you the whole family kind of. getting behind. That did not exist in my. household. It was like and but by the. way my family the funniest people on.

this on this planet hands down. However, the idea of like telling a joke it's. like what what are you doing? You want. to get spanked like [laughter] what are. you doing? >> So that was that all came later for me. um in terms of like understanding that. oh comedy is a business is a profession. and you can actually do something with. that. But yeah, my my childhood and. growing up was um deeply rooted in. Korean identity. I was also the first.

born in my family. So that means I was. sort of the gateway um for everyone. I. was the first person to go to school in. the States. I I was the first person I I. remember teaching my parents the Star. Spangled Banner for their citizenship. tests and like and like. >> that was hard. You should have. [laughter]. if me I would have taught them the wrong. stuff. I [laughter] would I would have. made up some words in there just to. screw with them, you know. >> But it's the test, isn't it? >> I know. But hey, [laughter] if my.

parents get kicked out of the country, that's funny to me. [laughter]. >> You really like a weird song. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> I'm just saying it's an opportunity to. throw a few extra words in there. Maybe. get a chuckle. >> Oh, sure. [laughter]. But I've read that your role models when. you're a young girl, when you're like a. young woman, young girl, when you're. growing up in this film, you're supposed. to be ladylike. You're you're watching. movies and you're identifying with Val. Kilmer, Nicholas Cage. >> What's that all about?

>> Well, I think it makes sense if you. think about how much I was. >> under this pressure to be more feminine, more like hyperfam, a lady, all of that. So, I just swung full throttle the other. way and was like, Val Kilmer. Yeah. [laughter]. >> I mean, which I don't know is the was. the poster child of of that kind of. masculinity for me at the time. And. >> Yeah. Yeah. And uh Nicholas Cage, Jack. Nicholson, those guys, I remember. watching them and and feeling like, wow,

I I want to be like that um as a young. girl, which I you know, I don't know. It. still doesn't quite make sense to me. I. think it kind of does because if the. repression, and I'm not using that in a. dramatic way again, I'm saying like if. there is a repressive stay in your box. sort of vibe you're getting, you need. jet propulsion to get out of it. >> And so I can understand saying like,

okay, I'm going to identify with these. guys who are kicking ass in movies. Yeah. >> And and and throwing people through. walls because that will propel me more. out of this world. I mean, it's not that. you want to be them, you just want to. get out of this. >> Yeah. Yeah. [clears throat] Yes. That's. it. Yeah. >> You go to New York. >> Mhm. >> You go to college in New York. >> I go to college uh Northwestern and I. made a stop in the Midwest. Um and that. was strategic on my part. Really? Um. yeah, because I applied early to.

Northwestern. I remember as a. 17-year-old uh looking at a map of the. US and and thinking like, "Oh, I could. go from one coast to the next. I could. just go from LA to New York and that. would be great." And I think I would. know exactly what that would be. And. then I thought, wait, but what's this. middle area here? What what what's. Shboan, Wisconsin? What? [laughter]. And I really my mind I I was open to a.

whole new to me a huger cultural shift. from the Midwest to how I grew up than. like other parts of the globe. I I. couldn't believe that there was this. whole section that that I just didn't. know anything about. And it really paid. off for me. Actually, I met my husband. there. I'm like, yeah, I'm basically. Midwestern. It's funny. You're. approaching your move away from home. like it's this buffet table and you're. not going to go right to the end. You're. going to work your way down. You should. have moved one state at a time and.

[laughter] slowly made your way across. >> Exactly. Exactly. And then I'd make it. there at my deathbed. I'm like, "Finally, [laughter] New York City. >> I'M READY TO HAVE A GOOD OH, MY HIP. COLLEGE. Here we go. Freshman year." So, you met. your husband at Northwestern and uh was. he in the dramatic arts as well? >> Yeah, I think um I maybe he would like. people to know he was actually an urban. studies major, sociology major uh who uh.

also was in Meow, the comedy group. there. >> Yeah. >> Um. >> and we met through that not because I. was in Meow, I was in the band that. played for Meow. >> Really? And we were called Captain. Tabag. >> Okay. So, Captain Tag, >> I got to go. This [laughter] was really. >> Captain Tag is the band you're in. >> No, no followup question. >> It plays for the comedy group Meow, [laughter] which is where urban planners. get together and do improvisational. comedy. And all the comedy is about.

well, if we could get uh. >> the city grids like what what's. [laughter] wrong with this public? >> A roundabout might help ease pressure. Yes. >> Um and scene. Yeah. Um, yeah. >> You have [laughter] uh worked on so many. great shows. One of the shows that. you're. >> He's going to let Captain Tabag go. >> Yes, he is. Just leave it [laughter]. >> because I'm a sensitive host who got a. signal that we move on from Captain. Tabag, but you countermanded it. >> All right. >> So, Captain Tabag, [laughter]. >> yeah. >> What instrument did you play? >> Uh, the vocal. I [laughter].

>> the teabag. >> You throw out You want me to go in a. certain direction? I go that way and. then. [laughter]. just No, no, no. You're going to leave. that all in. >> Jeez. >> Sorry about him. That's what he does. >> Um, it's fun. >> So, what jobs have I done? Was that Was. that your question? >> No. [laughter]. If you could be reincarnated as any tool. in a toolbox. Uh, >> I love that. >> You're kind of an Allen wrench, I think. >> Yeah, definitely. >> I was very fortunate to have hardworking. parents. They modeled for me what it is.

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dance dance frenetically like a mad like. a madman. >> Yeah. Like an absolute man madman and I. clap along and I I encourage you to do. it even though I probably shouldn't. >> David, do you think you work hard? >> I I do. I I um if I see like a video. where someone's complimenting you on. like Instagram, I'll send it to you. >> You sent me all four over the all four. over the last. >> I sent you the four best ones. You sent. me four in total. >> I. >> You s through so many negative ones.

[laughter]. >> If you ever don't want to drive, I'll. come pick you up and drive you to work. >> Don't you know what? I want you to do. that, but I I bought a little. chauffeer's cap, like a tiny one that I. want him to wear on top of his head, but. he won't do it, and I think that'd be. really funny. All right, guys. I think. you both work very hard. You're both. entitled to these wonderful Neutrorain. bars. So find nutritious and always. delicious neutrorain bars at your. favorite store or online retailer today. and look for new neutrorain crunchy bars. and stores near you. You work on these.

amazing shows. I mean I was I was. thinking about it and and going over. like your. >> your past girls Russian Doll of course. the morning show. Um you're but you did. this uh spot on Broad City which I saw. recently because I've been binging Broad. City. Well, I watched it I watched it. here and there back in the day when it. was on and I really liked it, >> but um my daughter came home from school. and summertime and she started binging.

it with my wife and so I sat in and I. just would watch whole seasons and then. go to the next season and the next. season. >> It's so good, isn't it? >> It's fantastic. And it really holds up. It's great. They're remarkable. And um. and I I remember liking it at the time, but because of this new uh streaming. era, you can you can really appreciate. all the different little ciruous roots. and notes and themes that run through a. show. >> Just fantastic.

>> Yeah. Are you re-watching Girls too with. >> You know what's interesting? Um my. daughter did. I have not, but I want to. go back and start it again. >> Yeah. That is also one of those shows. that um it holds up in a very uh in an. uncomfortable way. Yeah. >> Like you almost wish we had progressed a. little bit more since that time as a. society, but a lot of it really holds. up. >> In what way? Well, I think like for.

millennials specifically in that time, um I mean in the world, but specifically. for people living in New York City, >> I really feel like that was the next. chapter after Sex in the City. I really. do. >> Um and the way and Lena, I I think she's. incredible and what she was doing at. that time I I think was absolutely. remarkable. Um and um yeah, she deserves. all kinds of praise for what she did. >> Incredibly remarkable. Her book.

>> Yes. >> Lena Dunham. >> Yeah. >> Wrote an autobiography. >> Uh. >> I listened to it. >> You listened to it? >> Yeah. I don't always do that. I don't. always love an audio book, but for this. one in particular, I I think you have to. listen to it. >> What I like to do is read the audio. book. [laughter]. >> It's very hard to do. >> Very hard to do. >> You just say whatever is being said. You. put a glass of water next to the speaker. and then you just watch the water. vibrations and then [laughter] you. figure out what they're saying.

>> And you you're worried about my. interjections in this. Yeah. >> I'm just telling you either got it or. you don't, buddy boy. [laughter]. >> Um. >> you're going to see that's going to get. a lot of likes. Uh. >> podcasts don't get likes. >> Sure they do. Okay. >> Right. Like this guy knows podcasts. Um. but uh yeah, she's a she's an a. remarkable person and so honest. >> Yeah. so honest about everything and. that and and a great writer, >> an incredible writer. Um, and I realized. I was having like a suspended panic.

attack while listening to her audio. [laughter] book driving in LA cuz you I. I were in a car so much I kind of. thought like, oh, this is a perfect. listen. >> It is and it's also not. She writes with. such brutal honesty and it is so it's so. painful and and enraging. Frankly, I'm a. I'm a little enraged on her behalf. >> in terms of the things she experienced, but I Yeah, highly recommend. >> Uh if you want to be enraged while.

driving, [laughter] this is the book for. you. No, it's a it's a it's a beautiful. book. It's an amazing document. >> Um. >> you have worked with so many incredible. women. uh Amy per Tina Fay Lena of. course Amy Schumer Natasha Leon and my. journey obviously very different from. your journey but some things are the. same which is I. >> in my family I never in a million years. thought that this was any kind of a job. >> so when I was in high you know grade.

school and high school I was a nervous. grind and I was funny with my friends. but I had no idea I mean my I never saw. anybody from show business in Boston, Massachusetts in the 1970s. And it. wasn't part of my culture in any way. And then it was just through a series of. accidents that I sort of got. >> closer and closer. >> But when I finally did get into this. world and you realize a big part of it. is working with people whose mind. >> works kind of like your mind and.

>> in different ways and that there's a. whole world of people. >> Yeah. that we're also getting beat up on. the playground, but now we're all. together and someone's paying for lunch. It's it's, you know, and it's a job. That's crazy. >> I I I think my version of that is I. actually grew up really knowing a lot. about the industry, not because of my my. family, but because in LA, I went to. Harvard Westlake, >> um, which is this a. >> very good school, >> the private school here in Los Angeles.

filled with industry families. So I had. a lot of exposure to, you know, a lot of. different very successful people early. on, but the idea of what that was was. presented in a way that was almost like. don't sell out. Like don't don't. actually be like Spielberg, which is so. funny to think about [laughter] cuz. anyone was like Spielberg, right? We're. like I don't know. Um and I remember an. English teacher pulling me aside and. saying, you know, don't I I hear you.

want to be an actor. I hear you want to. go to Northwestern. Don't come on don't. do that. But but what way was she saying. it? >> I think there was this real emphasis on. like on like being an intellectual and. being a real artist, whatever that meant. to people. But that did I I have to say. inform a little bit of my decisions in. terms of like where I wanted to go to. school and what kind of moving to New. York after college. Like I wanted to be. a stage actor and I really I wanted all. of that. Um, but to your point about. finding your people, I grew up um, at.

that time like dealing with a little bit. of my identity and being Asian-American, like, oh, basically at lunchtime, like, do I hang with the Asian kids? Where do. I sit? And it wasn't until I found the. theater kids, I was like, oh, I'm just. that race. [laughter]. >> Yes, >> I understand now. It's all fine. >> These are my people. Right. >> And it doesn't matter where you come. from, but if you're a theater nerd, I'm. with you. >> That's what it is. Yeah.

>> And uh Yeah. I It's so funny. I remember. >> in another lifetime, >> I think I was working on Saturday Night. Live as a writer and someone noticed. they put they'd throw me in sketches. sometimes and someone said, "You should. take a serious acting class." And I. thought, "Well, okay, we have weekends. off." And so I took a class with like, you know, I think it was at Udah Hogan. in uh I got into this class. >> and I thought, well, I'm going to really.

learn. And I remember they went around. the room and every single person said, well, I would never do a commercial and. I will I don't want to be in a movie. Uh. I wouldn't have anything to do with it. I just want to do Check Off and I want. to do it in a very small theater. And I. was sitting there and I thought, [laughter]. >> You're just all lying. I mean, it's fine. to have those aspirations, but I just, you know, and then subsequently, I've. seen them all, you know, getting a. burrito and [laughter]. this tastes delicious. It's scrum diddly.

do. >> Yeah. >> There's no ramp into this question. >> I can't wait. >> Okay. [laughter]. You committed a murder. >> Yes. >> I I said let's not talk about. >> 1999 Portland, Oregon. >> Off the record. Off the record. >> Off the record, you committed a murder. Um, no. Uh, I heard that you were you. would sometimes get an impulsive tattoo. and I am that's one thing I have that's. a world I've never sort of uh. >> well your skin looks delicate I have to. say [laughter]. >> now.

>> I wouldn't I wouldn't mess with it. I. would Yes. Yes. >> What do you mean by that and please be. honest? >> I just I I mean it it it feels. [laughter]. it feels vulnerable. >> You're saying it I feel it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't need to. [laughter]. I can I can I can I can tell from where. I'm sitting. >> You reacted like a mummy walked into the. room. >> So, you're saying if I got a small. tattoo of like a yin-yang symbol, it. might kill me. >> Possibly. Yeah. The way it transfuses into your.

blood and it just I I don't know. I. don't. >> I do. You know what? Immediately when. you said that, everyone here nodded. their head like that. Definitely. >> You're just speaking a truth. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Do you have like piercings or. anything else? Oh, I have a ton of. piercings. >> Yeah. What? I just I'm really into it. I. think it's fantastic. I cannot go. through a metal detector at the airport. And then when I uh show them why, they're horrified. >> Show them. >> Um I do. I'm really into that. No, I. have no piercings. I have nothing. I.

think because I grew up with bright. orange hair and very pronounced freckles. that faded over time. >> Not interested in in any other marks on. my body. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But what would be an. impulsive tattoo for you? Something. that's just like, "Oh my god, I can't. believe I did it, but I just went for. it.". >> Okay, fine. >> You don't have to do this. >> No, I'll give you one. I [laughter] I. was so mad about a certain election one. year that I tattooed the female symbol.

on my finger. Mhm. >> Um, which was really stupid cuz it's. like it looks like I have forgotten what. I am and I [laughter] NEED TO REMIND. >> IT'S LIKE momento where you have to. remind myself. >> I like when a kid puts right and left on. their sneakers. >> Exactly. Like [laughter] it looks. strange. Um, but at the time I mean I. put it on this finger because I felt I. mean I don't know. I I just felt like it. was this moment, you know, heard of. mansplaining. Like I felt like that was. a big like sh no no no. So I put.

>> a female symbol on my finger. >> So now I can do that all the time with. [laughter] this reminder. >> I realized recently I don't have enough. testosterone to. >> mansplain. You [laughter]. >> It's just when I try to mansplain it's. just it doesn't come across that way. It's just explaining. And women are. like, "It's okay.". >> Yeah. They're like, "From you? It's. fine.". >> Yeah. From [laughter] me, IT'S. EXPLAINING FROM YOU JUST FEELS LIKE I'M. CHATTING WITH ONE OF THE LADIES. >> THE LEAST intimidating guy.

>> Yeah. Yeah. That car was mansplaining. Were you mad? Not really. [laughter]. >> He was on a pink phone. And. >> can you can you manspread as [laughter]. well? You can't. >> Hey, let's not get into it. >> Okay. Let's see those piercings. >> Okay. Let's just settle down. >> I apologize. Um, uh, okay. So, this I. know comes up a lot in your interviews, but I I need to tell you that when you. were booked on the the podcast and. you've had so much different success.

>> Mhm. >> But some of the people on our show are. that work here are sort of religious. zealots about past lives in a really. sweet way. And I know that you must get. that all the time. >> Um, I do get that all the time, >> which is nice. It is. >> It deserves it. It's a such a great. movie. >> Thanks. Um, you know, I do get that all. the time and I do really appreciate it. Not just be, listen, it's so nice to be. in a movie that people love and, you.

know, is successful. That's that's so. great. But beyond that, I still have so. many people stop me and not in like an. aggressive or intrusive way and just. feel the need to just turn and say very. simply, I love that movie so much. Thank. you so much. And and to me, I think. there there's so many different ways we. can complain about our industry and and. this job and what, >> but I think that's like an instant. reminder that like I love film and I.

love what we do and and how great to be. able to connect with all kinds of. people. >> It's nice to be busy. We're really lucky. to get to do this. You're running around. doing all these different things. You. never quite know what's going to. resonate. >> Yeah. >> And I'm sure you felt, okay, this. project is special, but you're doing a. bunch of things. You do that and then it. endures and that's one of those films. that's going to made a big impact. Uh it. is much discussed. It is much praised. but I feel like in 5 10 15 years it's.

just going to keep going. >> Yeah. >> And then and and other things that maybe. got some noise will fade a little bit. But that's one of those movies that. touches on something very elemental. >> Yeah, I think so. Um, and I like that. the reason is something that feels so. kind of elemental to just being a. person. Like one of my favorite. experiences was a young woman coming up. to me and saying, "Thank you so much for. past lives." Um, she said like, "I'm 17.

years old. I've never been in love, but. because of your movie, I'm so excited to. be in love.". >> I was like, "Jesus." And I was like, "You Leave me alone. [laughter]. How dare you come up to me? I'm with my. family right now. turn around and get. out of here. [laughter]. No, but it really. it just I mean, how could your jaw not. hit the ground when you hear something. like that from someone? And I just like. I am so appreciative and and and. genuinely do hope that I get to.

experience that for a long long time. >> Yeah, I think you will. It's uh and. obviously your story relating to that. film because you were up for a part, didn't get it. >> Oh my god. and you were crushed because. you thought, well, this would have been. a really good part. You moved on with. your life and then the original casting. fell through. Is that right? >> I think enough time has passed now that. I can tell this story. >> Okay. >> The murders that I've committed. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Portland, Oregon. >> We'll start with that one. No, it really.

was such a messy ride. And you this, you. know, it happens a lot with casting and. with you you find out like, oh, I was. not only the second choice, I was like. the 15th choice or whatever it is. But. in this case, I really was told by the. universe several times that this was not. going to be my job. And at a certain. point, it just became so absurd and. insulting because the first time I. auditioned, I I was convinced to do it. I didn't really think I could speak. Korean well enough to do it and that.

wasn't something that I was looking for, but I was convinced did the tape and. then didn't get it and was like to my. agents like, "Come on, like see like. what did you make me do?" And they're. like, "No, no." Well, you know, they. thought that you are just too old. [laughter]. >> Nice. Yeah. >> Don't worry, it wasn't your Korean. >> You're too old. [laughter]. >> Oh jeez. >> But but basically it that was the case. cuz they had cast the other role. Um. this really excellent Korean actor who.

was much younger than me. Um. >> and it went to someone else and they. were going to shoot it and but then it. fell apart and it came back almost. exactly a year later. the same thing. Um, and I think I had sort of started. talking to them and at the time, and. this is just wild, but I got a call from. Scott Ruden's office and he was attached. at the time. Um, and it was a message. that was a long voicemail that was. something something like, um,

>> where are you? Come, you have a meeting. at Cafe Clooney. Um, you know, he's. waiting something something. Um, and I. thought I got past lives cuz I thought, oh my god, like this is amazing. like he. wants to meet me at Cafe who needs to. tell me that I got this job. >> Um, I listened to the message again and. again and I played it. I sent it to my. agents and they played it and we. realized collectively that the message. was actually for Greta Gerwig. >> Oh, [laughter]. for something completely who knows what.

that was for. I don't know. I've told. her now um since and she she was like, "Oh my gosh, I have no idea." But that. was such a publicly humiliating. experience because the whole a you know. all the agents were like oh my god oh my. god yeah that's that's ruden that and. then collectively realizing that was the. wrong Greta. Um and so I really thought. like please leave me alone with this. job. [laughter] It's not mine. I get it. I'm too old and I'm too American or. whatever.

>> Yeah. And you're no Greta Gerwig. [laughter]. >> Not Greta Gwin. >> You're the wrong Greta. >> Yeah. Uh, wow. And you know, it is when. you have experiences like that, you. think, I didn't ask for anything. Leave. me out of it. >> Stop coming to me, getting my hopes up a. little bit, and then slapping me around. >> Exactly. Stop it. >> So then it comes back around again, and. all works out. >> Well, yeah. And then, uh, it was like, can you zoom with Seline tomorrow? And. it was during the pandemic. Um, and I.

had no time to, you know, cram and train. and try to pretend like I'm like a. different actor. Sort of [laughter]. like, no, it's go time, you know, like, um, and we read together on Zoom and she. gave me the job on the spot and it was. just. >> I know. I hate stories like that, though. You know, it just feel it just. feels too I don't like when it feels so. cosmic or like so. >> well, you know, >> mostly it doesn't feel that way. There's. so many things in life that don't happen.

that when it does happen, you kind of. have to honor it. Cuz I've I mean, I've. had one major cosmic moment like that. where. >> What was yours? >> How I got into this whole on air thing, which is how I It's too long a story to. go into, but I had no business getting. this late night show when I was 29 years. old. I just had no business. >> It shouldn't have happened. I was in no. position to get it. I wasn't ready. But. uh things kept conspiring. >> Yeah. How many people did you kill to.

get that? >> Oh my [laughter] god. Well, a lot of. them lived. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Kim old fallon. They all somehow. survived. Yeah. Greta Gerwig. [laughter]. She was the big one that had to go. >> Um although why they called me when they. were trying to get Greta Gerwig, I don't. understand. [laughter]. >> Um but uh. >> it I am a scientific person. I can. usually. >> look at someone's magical story and tell. them why well that's not really magical. because this and this. But every now and. then I hear something and I go yeah.

there's no explanation for that. And my. situation. it is truly. >> you know uh when I got the job I knew. Tom Hanks just as a writer from Saturday. Night Live. I he knew me because he. would come on the show and I would write. things for him and he looked at me and. he pointed at me and he said this. doesn't happen what's happening to you. It doesn't happen. I don't think it's. ever happened. And he was saying it as. like a in a calm historic way. Yeah. It. was very bizarre. And so when I try to explain that to. younger people who've grown up with me. yakking in the background.

>> Yeah. >> The idea of me doing a show just seems. like, well, of course. >> Well, they're like, "You've been around. forever.". >> Well, [laughter] yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Talk about old. >> Talk about old. Take your old and. multiply it by 15 [laughter]. and you get me. So I mean that doesn't. uh I've they don't understand that when. it happened. >> there were just whole the universal. outcry was who is this guy? Why him? >> Yeah. >> How did this happen?

>> Um and uh so I I honor that. >> Sure. >> I don't get it. >> Something. >> I don't get it either. But is that. stressful for you now? I mean that was a. while ago but. >> not now but then. It was oh my god. >> to feel like that lucky in a way. >> Yeah. And and also when you have that. kind of situation. there was some Esquire piece about me. and no one knew who I was yet and they. had one photograph of me because there. was no internet. There was no I didn't. have head shot.

>> and Esquire did a thing about jealousy. when someone you know has been elevated. And the the headline of the piece was my. photograph with like a bullseye on it. >> Oh boy. And I remember looking at this. before I even went on the air looking at. it and going, "Okay, this is going to be. fun.". >> Oh, yeah. [laughter]. >> So, but um it's all worked out and it's. miraculous and there but also there were. you know I guess what I'm saying is that. I do think sometimes.

>> and this is not scientific and this is. maybe just Irish magical thinking but. sometimes there is a something at work. that cannot be explained. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I think in your case with this. project, it just kept coming back. >> Yeah. I mean, I think for me it's still. really hard to explain and to wrap my. mind around what's happened for me. >> Um I think there I don't in our. business, no one is entitled to.

anything. Um, I I feel like I came off. of a lot of years when I was first. starting out, feeling really really kind. of put down by, you know, the lack of. opportunities for someone like me, like. forget being a girl, like all the other. things. And I just felt like I couldn't. believe I was still in it or trying. And. there was a time it I really, and I've. said this before, I I felt like I had. already gone to my own funeral. And it.

wasn't it wasn't like so desperately. sad. It just felt so like fact and I had. made peace with it and I was living a. great life. I mean I had my kids and you. know I had this husband that I met in. college and a really full dynamic plate. a full plate and yeah made peace with. like I'm going to be a supporting actor. like I think I will have enough. opportunity coming in to just like. support my [clears throat] family enough.

um and this is going to be okay I think. but I know now looking back how well how. dead I was And like there is something. that is. >> yeah a little sad about that. Um because. you think wow that is such a human thing. like you your dreams very often die and. have to die. >> and we see it all the time. >> and then sometimes new ones happen that.

are so much more than you ever could. have imagined there's just no possible. way to wrap your mind around it. And. that's sort of how I feel right now. Like there's no it's hard for me to. categorize or sort of like place myself. within the world of like, oh, I'm like. I'm like Val Kilmer or I'm like this. person. [laughter]. Yes, guys. Every day I wake up and I. look in the mirror and I'm like, how. much am I like Kilmer? [clears throat]. But it's just it can feel disorienting.

is what I'm saying. like and like what. that sense of purpose and what's going. to keep me going because I have the all. the tethers and all the things that I. used to have to kind of measure myself. and how much I was failing. All of it is. just cut and it's all new and it feels. like there's no blueprint and I have no. idea. So, >> well, I was just when I was talking to. you just before you came in here, >> and you're saying, "Well, I'm here. today, but I got to jump on a plane cuz. I'm going to London for a project." And. >> the speed of things has picked up.

>> all because you are extremely talented. You work really hard. You know your. craft and. people now, you're known commodity. And. the flip side of that is you're gonna be. jumping on a lot of planes and a part of. a lot of things. And so that's great, but you do have the balance, which I. think is the most important thing to. have in this business of I've got my. family. I I know what's important to me. And I had all those years of thinking. this probably wouldn't happen. That.

really helps when things pick up the way. they are now. >> That like everything is is cake. Everything is dessert. It's extra like. that. It it really does feel like that. I mean, of course, I have my days and. there certain jobs that are more. challenging than others. There are. certain situation. Of course. >> Um, but I feel right now, I mean, talk. check on me maybe in a month, [clears throat] in a week. >> I'm just going to I'm going to cold call. you at 3 in the morning. >> Hey, are you okay? >> Conor, what how you doing?

>> Yeah. So, you said it was cake. Yeah. [laughter]. >> How do you feel now? >> Yeah. >> I want to talk about this movie, The. Last House. >> Yeah. >> Which, and I'll tell you a little quick. story. >> I always like to see the movie of anyone. who's coming on. >> Yeah. Uh, and so I was like, "Okay, well, I know your work really well. I'm. in a movie with you. We've chatted. >> Okay, we have a lot to talk about, but I. want to see this movie." And then, uh, my assistant said, "Uh, oh, it's we got. it. We're going to watch it this. morning." So, I came in early and, uh,

it it came through Netflix. >> Yeah. >> And it starts to play and there's no. >> uh, you can't hear anybody. [laughter]. You can't hear anyone. And then and it. was and it [clears throat] was every now. and then you could hear a little word. and you'd say something like would you. like a sandwich? [laughter]. >> But then you don't hear anything like. >> you know like would you like a sandwich? >> I do a lot in a movie. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Uh and then we tried for a while putting. subtitles on and I think they're not. quite done mixing it yet possibly or. something that is.

>> I don't know but they sent us this movie. that uh and we were all like banging. like like chimpanzees were banging the. side of the. >> flat screen [laughter]. like Thunderclap. >> Yeah. Yeah. And um there weren't there. were things that weren't there yet. And. it was disconcerting because someone. would walk but there's no footsteps. Oh. my god. >> So something maybe some track didn't. come through. And back in the day, this. will date me, but you would get like a. cassette or then you'd get a DVD or then. But now it's. >> So Netflix is doing that now. >> They are. >> You didn't get the cassette? >> No. [laughter] Damn it. It's a big 3/4.

in and they send you the machine that. was built in [laughter] 1981. >> It's from the movie Broadcast News. >> Great movie. Great movie. >> Um, I remember my first job in 1985, not. necessarily the news. My writing partner. and I showed up and they gave us these. things that look like giant mortar. bricks. >> Oh my god. >> And you would put them in a machine. It. would go like. and then it would play whatever it is. you were trying to look up. Well, now. it's all here's a special code. It's.

going to be sent to you, Sona. Right. You were at a restaurant and I'm picking. up your phone having a good old time and. putting it on the company. >> I missed one phone and I did put it on. the company. Did you have a little. liquid courage at lunch? >> No. >> Okay, whatever. Anyway, >> but we kept [laughter] it. >> So, we were texting Sona saying, "What's. the code? What's the code?" And she's. like, "Another round and put it on team. Coco." [laughter]. Um, >> at her favorite at her favorite. restaurant, Shay Expensive. And um. [laughter].

>> and so then we finally get the code and. we all gather on the TV and. >> three minutes. >> Yeah, it took a while. Anyway, >> three minutes. Please. Anyway, you're a little hung. over, but [laughter]. >> you have no sense of time. Um, the. waiter had to wake you up at the table. She's wearing a giant piñata. I don't. know how you wear a piñata. My point is, we [laughter] watched it. It's a. complete. >> There's no. There's no sound. There's no sound. Oh, here's a pen for you before. [laughter]. There's no there's no sound. We're.

trying to watch it. But so then we went. and we watched the trailer and the. trailer has sound and and and we watched. the trailer and I'm like I want to see. this. This looks really good. >> Did you choice? Like did you think it. was intentional? Did you honestly for a. moment think like oh. >> for a second? It starts with. >> uh your husband like on a dock fishing. and there's no sound and I thought this. is a really bold choice. [laughter]. >> This is cool cuz you hear nothing. You. don't even hear ambient sound and you.

see lightning but you don't hear it. And. I thought, well, this is. >> I don't know who this director is, but. they got guts. This is cool. >> Louis, I'm sorry. You are He's having a. stress attack right now. >> No, no, no, no. What the point is I'm. not saying anything bad about the film. I'm just saying that sound. >> and we stopped it. >> So, we had to stop it. Yeah. It says. you. We stopped it like 3 minutes in. So, I still haven't seen the movie, but. we then watched the trailer and I'm. like, I think it's a really cool idea. >> Yeah. family goes into their house, shuts a normal I think they live in.

Seattle where my wife is from. I've been. there many times and then you picked up. on that without sound. [laughter]. >> I think the shot of the Space Needle. >> and most of Pearl Jam walking around. [laughter] gave it away. >> Yeah. >> And people throwing fish to each other. >> Right. Right. Right. All that [laughter]. stuff. >> But then they can't get out of the. house. And what's interesting to me is. that initially doesn't seem that scary. cuz what's safer than being in your. house? And the cool thing to me about. the idea is that at a certain point not. being able to leave your house becomes.

terrifying. Just kind of what we went. through in co. >> Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. I mean I loved. the idea of just a regular day and like. you know this family and um the sort of. chaos of the morning that a lot of. parents know and then. >> getting f the miracle of like finally we. will leave the house and going to the. door and it won't open. Yeah. >> And then a lot of time passing. >> Yes. >> And what is going to happen? I I just I.

really love that. And I love I just love. amlin kind of like those movies a kind. of thriller sci-fi survivalist stories. and um and I thought yeah let's uh you. know I liked Louis uh ambition for it. We we shot a lot of it on 35 millimeter. which I at first was like that's crazy. >> Right. Right. Why are you sure that's a. lot of film? >> Well, actually that's just an app on any. iPhone. [laughter]. 35 mm.

>> I am I'll tell you this. I watched the. trailer and I was like, I want to see. this movie when Netflix lets me listen. to it. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Just. for that cassette. >> It's just some technical thing. No one. should be reprimanded for this in any. way. These things happen. >> Yeah. >> Don't you think you reprimanded me. earlier, but Yeah. I I just think. drinking at lunch and putting on the. company card is a bad idea. >> Okay. Well, I had fun. >> Also, have you checked your hearing? Maybe it's just you. >> You That's actually [laughter] horrible. Always be you.

>> Maybe that's the true horror movie. And. by the way, everyone around me loved it. [laughter]. >> And I'm like, "Too bad there's no. sound." And I saw everyone get really. sad. >> Oh, yeah. Do you tears falling? They're. like, "Don't tell me.". >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And why does it make you urinate in your. pants? [laughter] And everyone's like, "Oh, Conan." Well, that's part of what. the movie does, right? >> That's part of it. [laughter]. >> Um, Greta, how much are you regretting. coming in here? >> I mean, I [laughter]. I No, this is great. Um, so I'm sure you.

have a ton of follow-up questions about. the movie since you you heard all of it. and you've watched all of it. I did. >> Um, so we we should like really get into. it. >> Really get into it. Now, you took a very. made a very strange choice for the way. that you spoke in the film. I'm told. [laughter] I haven't seen it, but I. heard YOU ALL LIKE, "HEY, [screaming] I. CAN'T GET OUT OF. >> WHAT'S GOING ON?". >> YEAH, we worked with real marionette. [laughter].

I'm putting it in so much trouble. [laughter and gasps] Um, the talking. points are like, "Do not bring up. marionette puppeteers. Stop doing that, Greta.". Yeah. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> I love being told what not to do because. then that's all I can think about. [gasps]. >> And we have it here with ad reads. They'll say, "Do not say that this this. car brand will explode. [laughter]. >> Do not." And it's things I would never. bring up, but then that's all I can. think about and then I inevitably say it. will make it will explode on you and.

then I get in trouble. >> Yeah. >> But I know you're you're that way too. You have the same problem. >> Mhm. That's why I'm going to be quiet. for at least 5 seconds while I clear my. mind. >> Well, you morph into Val Kilmer. [laughter]. I um this has been an absolute delight. Seriously, you're just a a a lovely. person and a and an amazing talent. And. >> thanks. >> I know you're crazy busy and we've been. trying for a while to say like we. >> getting you in here was a was quite a. task. No. >> Which was And that's a compliment.

because when people tell you I can do it. whenever [laughter]. >> I'm in my house waiting to do that. podcast. >> It's never a good sign. I'm talking. about you, Alpuccino. Um, [laughter]. >> oh wait, you know what? I do want to. plug one more movie that's coming out on. the same day. Okay. >> Um, it's called Late Fame and it's with. William Defoe and I and it's um a movie. that it takes place in New York City. directed by Kent Jones. Um, and it's a.

real special precious gem of a film. that's coming out on the same day. >> How can we see that. >> in in theaters? Yeah. Yeah. >> Is it also Netflix? >> Uh, no. >> Oh, good. It'll have sound. [laughter]. Um, >> it will have sound. >> No, but William is so incredible in it. and. >> I just Sammy Burch wrote our script. She. did Made December. Um, and it's the past. lives team. It's Christine Michon and. Pam Coughler. It's It's amazing. >> William Defoe.

>> can play the most diametrically opposed. characters in film. And you know, I'm. thinking about him in Grand Budapest. Hotel where he's this hilariously comic. assassin, but then he can, you know, I mean, think. about the different roles he's played. where it bears no relationship to the. role he just did. You know, he's he's a. shape shifter and a lovely guy. When. I've talked to him, he's just really. lovely. >> Absolutely lovely. and the the things he. can do with his face. I just don't.

understand his musculature in his face. and yet it's the performances for me. like Florida Project and and this movie, the ones where he takes it all away and. is just. this man. I mean, he's not playing. himself, but um where so much of the. other really joyful things we get to see. him do are is stripped away. I find that. version of him so compelling and that's. this movie. So. >> enjoy everyone and it has sound.

[laughter]. >> And the name of that film again is. >> Late Fame. >> All right. Yeah. >> And get the word out on that film too. >> Yeah. >> Um. >> should I go now? [laughter]. >> Oh, I want you out of here so badly. Uh. [laughter] you were terrible today. Um. you're just babbling. I do hope you can. come back sometime because I I feel like. we just scratched the surface. But um. >> thank you so much for stopping by and um. yeah and uh just.

>> things have sped up a lot for you and. that's a great thing and I don't even. think I have to say this to you but like. I just wish you take care of yourself. >> Oh my gosh. >> You know what I mean? Like protect. yourself, protect you and your family. time and all that because. >> it's Gretamania out there. >> Oh gosh. >> Yeah. And I know what it's like. Trust. me. [laughter]. >> Then I just start crying blood. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Sona. I understand you've been really. enjoying the new. >> Hyundai Palisade. That's a beautiful. looking machine you got. And you've been.

driving around. The kids like it. How's. it all working out? >> The kids love it. They actually call it. the allnew Hyundai Palisade. I'm. [laughter] not even kidding. >> How old are they? They're four. >> They're four. And they that's what they. call they call they tell their friends, "We have an the allnew Hyundai. Palisade." And then that we they love. driving around in it. They have so much. fun. Tell me about some of the perks, some of the cool things about the. Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. >> Well, you know, I'm kind of I'm not a. reckless driver, but I don't always pay. attention. So, the car is very good at.

telling me if there's a car next to me, if there's a car behind me, so I don't. drive into them. So, um, that's a very. good feature for you. Those are very. good features. >> and I imagine for a lot of people. >> Yes, exactly. >> I got to say it's a very good-look car. And also, I heard you blasting tunes the. other day. >> Yeah, >> those are some good speakers. >> They are. They are really great. speakers. And you know, I have to play. music a lot for TAC. My husband loves. music. My kids love music. It's all All. we have is music on. >> You're driving around. You're in like a. nightclub driving around. It's great. >> Yeah, it's a nightclub. We're bumping. tunes. Cruising Sunset Boulevard.

>> All right. Well, ready to make your next. drive feel epic? Learn more about the. Hyundai Palisade at hyundaiusa.com. Call 562-314-4603. for complete details. I just found out. some very exciting news. Check this out, David. >> What? Sona told me yesterday that her. husband Tac Tac Teesian. Tacan. >> What's that? >> Tac Brioan. >> Does it matter? >> Yeah, it's his last name. It's not. Teesian. Armenian [snorts] names don't.

work like that. They're not just like. >> I thought that was just whatever. As. long as it ended Ian, it was okay. >> Yes. You know what? Some of them do. actually work that way. They take the. name and then they put IIA at. >> Yeah. Yeah. I always called them. Tacticesian, but that's not it. It's um. but anyway, Tacticesian uh your husband, [laughter]. >> father of your beautiful children, >> lovely guy, funny, talented. >> Um yesterday he was uh he hit a huge. milestone. Can you tell us what that is? >> He tested for his black belt. >> Um which is very in a very intense thing.

and he got his black belt. >> after seven years. >> This is incredible. >> With this specific dojo, he got his. black belt. You know what? I would first. of all, I just love that I got you to. say dojo because it's one of my favorite. words. But um but this is amazing. How. many belts are there? >> Well, for his cuz his is very. traditional. There's only three belts. There's white, brown, and black, but. there's degrees to each one, right? >> So there, you know, there's like a you.

get like I I don't know three degrees of. white and then you qualify for brown. Then there's three I think degrees for. brown belt and then you qualify for. black. And they only test for black. belts once a year. He was supposed to. test last year, but he got food. poisoning. Sorry, it's not funny. It's. not funny. I think he had nerves. I. really do. But he he got sick and. couldn't do it. So, he had to wait a. full year before he could test again. >> That's incredible. He was so close to. getting this maybe the coolest award. anyone can have. Yeah.

>> And he got a little tummy trouble. [laughter]. >> Oh no. >> Oh no. >> I've got some tummy trouble. >> No. Yeah. But did he throw up all over. the dojo? No cake. [laughter] You just. wanted to say dojo. >> Maybe I did. >> Yeah. No, he tested and he did it and. I'm very proud of him. It's something. he's been working for and. >> he must have been I mean it must have. been so cool for him to have passed that. test. He must have been just feeling so. good about himself, you know. >> Yes. >> I mean, he must have he must have felt. like I'm really in such a great.

everything's going my way. He must have. had mojo in the dojo. >> I was waiting [laughter]. I can't I can't I will say. >> you think he had mojo in the dojo. >> I'm not going to say he got mojo in the. dojo. And I don't. >> He just did. Thank you. >> Okay. So, anyway, Sona Sona, this is a. big deal. It And all my life I've been. hearing that cliched phrase, you better. watch out. I'm a black belt in karate. Now he gets to say that. Does he say. karate or karate? >> He says karate. Like he says it.

properly. And I think they make fun of. people who are like karate. Like they. make fun of people like that. >> Now what was the Do you know what the. test was? >> They have like katas which are you know. you have to uh you know. >> did he have to fight a bunch of other. guys. >> memorized movements like spar? I don't. think he sparred but it's like it's it's. it's a pretty intense. >> in my mind. It's like one of those. classic uh you know Bruce Lee movies. where he has to work his way up a tower. You know each room you know what I mean?

Kareem Kareem Abdul Jabbar is in one. you know, [laughter] there's different. there's 700 ninjas in another and he. just has to keep working his way. through. I so wish that that was the. case, but no, he just went through some. various choreograph. >> Yeah, they like told him stuff and he. had to do it and it's all about how. smooth he is and how sharp he is and wah. wah wah. >> What about breaking stuff? >> I don't know. I mean, he didn't really. not like you have to like fish. information out of him and so I I. >> I can't get he doesn't really he's not. open about his last name, you know? So,

[laughter]. >> it's Boran. His last name is. Borankeesian. >> Well, as Brian, but he um No, he had to. do a test and it's in front of a lot of. other black belts and in front of. everybody who's at this special training. thing, which is a lot of people from all. over the country. So, it's it's a pretty. intense thing. And there was six people. who were testing. >> I think it would be better. First of. all, it just doesn't this doesn't make. for a good story. I would have added. some things like Yeah. At one point they. release six apes and he has to sub.

[laughter] he has to subdue them all. Wouldn't that be great? >> They tie Yeah. They tie bananas uh they. tie bananas to his body and then six. apes six ravenous apes are released and. he has to fight them all off. >> I don't like that test. >> Now, was karate chopping part of the. [laughter]. >> I knew I said it before we recorded. I. said don't say anything about chopping. Okay. And I'm surprised you went this. far without without saying. >> I went much longer than I thought I. would. >> I've always loved the idea of someone,

let's say, like Tac, who's a black belt, >> um before they attack someone or defend. themselves, say, "I chop you. I chop. you." And then they give them a karate. chop. Do you think he ever would, if he. was in a bad situation, had to karate. chop his way out of it, would he start. yelling at his asalants, "I chop you. I. chop you." And then chopping. >> He's going to say, "I chop you.". Although I might say, "My husband's a. black belt. He'll chop you. >> Yeah, I might can say it. Has he taught. you any moves? >> No, he hasn't. He hasn't. I actually No,

he has. He's like He's taught me some. self-defense moves just so I know them. But also, I'm mouthy and so because. there have been a couple instances. >> He breaks boards, you break balls. >> Yeah, I do. That's a perfect couple. >> But I do think I do think there's times. when I've let my mouth kind of get ahead. of me and then he's had to like jump in. and like settle things. Oh, you mean out. in the world. You've t you've you've cuz. you have a a hair trigger temper. >> I'm a shitster. >> and you get mad. I've been with you when.

you start to get into it with someone. and TC. >> can intervene and calm you. >> No, he's like very uh old school where. he's like he will defend my honor and. he'll like get into it with whoever is. doing it. And because he's my muscle, >> he now knows like he's always known how. to like really fight. He grew up. learning knowing how to fight because he. was like a little immigrant kid and. people used to pick on him. Yeah. >> And so he's always had that. But you. know now it's like. >> he's a black belt in karate. He'll chop.

you. And then and then uh Yeah. So I. think. >> so you say I'll chop you. I'll chop you. No, he'll chop you. Um yeah, I think. that would be So you'd be in a situation. where you're driving, he's in the. passenger seat. Uh someone cuts you off. You beep your horn, maybe give them the. finger, and they yell at you and say, "You can't drive. You're a bad driver.". Would he jump out of the car and say, "I. will defend your honor.". >> No. I mean, there was an incident at a. gas station once where these two people. were picking on this older man and they. were like threatening him when he got.

out of the car and so I started yelling. and then one of them started yelling at. me and then Tac came out of the store. and he's like, "Don't talk to my wife. that way." And it got very intense. Wow. Good for him. But nothing happened. >> Good for him. What I would in that same. situation, I'm being honest, if someone. was, we were a gas station. I was inside. and someone was screaming at Liza, I'd. come out and say, "When you're done. yelling at my wife." [laughter]. >> Oh, no. Conan, no. >> Because I would say, "Well, this is your. affair here. This is your business. [laughter] Um, when you're done. screaming at my wife,

>> oh my god, >> I will move the car so you can pull in.". >> Okay. [laughter]. >> You would give them your spot at the. pump. >> Best not to be hurt. [laughter]. But now I can say, you know, you're. yelling at my wife, my friend Tac, chop. you, [laughter]. Tac, chop you. He'd chop you. He'd chop. you good. That's the one I like. >> Hey, do we hire T as like a security. guard for you? >> He'd chop you good. I I feel like every. guy thinks one day they'll become a. black belt in karate. I feel like that's.

like the sort of you guys have never. wanted to be in karate, learn karate, and then become a black belt. No, he. wants to be uh the person who's seen the. most uh musicals non-stop in a in a 9we. period. >> Need karate for that. >> Yeah, he [laughter] and you should see. the belt that comes with that. >> It's a really very shiny. >> It's a very it's a very colorful fun. belt. >> It's a sassy belt. Uh but but Sona, uh I. think this is very cool that he can do. this now. And I am curious if it has. practical applications. Of course it.

does. >> Karate or I'm sorry, karate. >> Yeah, I think it does. I think knowing. any kind of martial art is good for you. >> Yeah. >> Right. You don't think so? >> No. No. I I'm not saying I don't think. so. I just I'm curious. I don't know. >> You think it's all like chopping boards. and like kicking the air, but you're. just wondering does that actually. translate if you're in a fight? >> If you're in a fight. I'm sure it does. >> Yes. I think it does. >> I'm sure it does. >> Yes. I'm just say yes. >> I think even just saying black belt in. karate, Then that's enough to. scare somebody.

>> I don't know. It's such a cliche. I'm a. black belt in karate. I would just start. laughing if someone said that to me. >> No. If someone was coming into your face. and they're like, "I'm a black belt and. karate." You'd be like, "Okay, sorry, bro.". >> No, you'd start doing bits. >> Yeah, I do bits. >> Oh, yeah. You would never say bro. I. don't know why I think you would say. bro. >> Bro, what are you talking about? I say. he has no he is no sibling of mine. >> Uh, [laughter]. >> and then they just beat you badly. >> Yeah. I once when I was uh at late night. I um was telling I was to one of the.

writers studied martial arts and uh he's. since passed away Brian Rich but he's a. really funny writer really and it's it's. tragic that he's gone but. >> I once he was very serious about. studying I think martial arts and I told. him that I had studied a defense called. the cube where you tra you you trace the. outlines of a cube with your hand in and. and you never stop and you cover beside. and I said, "If you do that, you can't. penetrate the cube with a a blow." And I. would do the cube to him and he would go.

to like slap me. And basically, I would. just then move my hand so that would. knock the hand that was slapping at me. But it had nothing to do with the cube. But I kept talking about the cube. And I. I think I drove him insane cuz he kept. saying, "Well, I don't understand how. What do you mean it's the cube? You're. not doing anything. You're just the. minute my hand starts to come near you, you just bat away at my hand, but you're. >> What is the cube?" and I'd be like, "No, it's the cube defense. It's been worked. out mathematically." And if I trace out, and if you can see this on video, I. would just do this and say, "It's the. cube.".

>> You're miming. He's miming a cube. >> I'm mimming making a cube with my hands. by moving my hands around in a, you. know, geometric pattern. Yes. And. >> the least threatening thing I've ever. [laughter]. >> You look like you're voguing. >> Yeah, it looks like Yes, it looks like. I'm Madonna voguing. It looks like I'm. voguing, but I would say it's the cube, man. Nothing gets through the cube. And. um it just made him crazy. And then when. my son was old enough, when he was like. seven, I started telling him, "Yeah, I. know the cube defense." I started doing. the same [laughter] with my. son. And he was like, "What does that.

mean? It does." No, you're just That's. not anything. What is that? So that's. why he doesn't talk to me. >> It's a wonder you haven't been Can I be. very sincere? It's a wonder you haven't. been beaten up more than you have. I was. beaten up. I was beaten up. But it's a s. It's an It's surprising you haven't been. beaten up more. But I think in a way. maybe God made you tall cuz he knew this. would be how you are so that it would be. you would be threatening looking but not. actually threatening. >> If you see me in person I don't look. like someone you'd necessarily want to.

mess with. >> Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And you're and you're in good shape and. you look like you could. >> also I have so much untapped rage. I. think that would work in my Eduardo. Do. you agree with this? >> I agree though. I would go, you know, I. I I do think I have a lot of uh anger. and I'm very physical, so I might snap. >> I'd be more hesitant to fight the guy. with the cube than the guy who says he. has a black belt in [laughter]. >> cuz you don't know what I'm getting. crazy cuz you seem ill. You're. unpredictable. You seem ill and unwell.

Yeah. And who knows? No one wants to. fight crazy. >> Yeah. No one wants to fight crazy. So, congratulations to. >> Troyan. I I'll get this right someday. Uh, yeah. And, um, I hope you don't chop. you. >> Oh my god. He's not going to chop me. Don't say chop. Why' you have to end it. while watching? >> I chop you. I chop you. And I chop and I. chop and I chop again. It's just so. funny if he would narrate his karate. chops like that. I chop you. Now I chop. you again. Now I chop you three times. [laughter] That's a chop and I chop and.

I chop. >> That's not how karate works. >> I know. Something's wrong with me. All. right. Uh, congrats, Tech.