Gillian Anderson (Full Episode) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

Hi, my name is Gillian Anderson and I. feel nonplussed about [laughter] being. Conan O'Brien's friend. >> I sometimes go into this thinking I want. an honest answer and now I don't want an. honest answer. >> [music]. >> Hey there, welcome to Conan O'Brien. Needs a Friend. Uh Sona Movsesian, very nice to see you. >> Nice to see you, too. >> As always, Matt Gourley, pleasure to see you.

>> And you, sir. >> Um have you noticed anything different. about me these days? I'm driving a different car. >> Are you? >> I'm not going to name brands or. anything, but I had a little difficulty. with my car and I've been leasing it for. a while and it I just have kept having. to go into the shop, so I finally parted. company with that car. Don't have a car. So, my kids are out of town. They share. a Subaru Forester. >> Oh. >> That's. uh maybe about, I don't know, 7 years. old. It's. covered in dirt.

Um and I'm tooling around in this car, which is a very fine car, by the way. And by the way, not getting a dime from. Subaru. I'm just saying it's a it's a. fine machine. Um. but it's really funny because it's just. a filthy car for some reason. I don't. think my kids take it to wash it much. I. don't know if that's what young people. do, is wash a car. >> I can't remember the last time I washed. a car. >> Yeah, that's what old people do. >> Yeah, and also. >> wash my car, either. >> I It's not Also, it's not my car and I'm. not I'm not I've yet to take it to the.

car wash. I'm tooling around in this. thing and I'm Sometimes I got the window. down, I'm bopping to the tunes. Someone. will pull up to a stop and they'll see. me and I'll give them the nod, but I can. I know they're looking at me. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Like, why doesn't he clean his car? >> Do you think though that they ever think. that can't be Conan? It's just a Subaru. They expect you to be in a. >> first of all, I'm going to stick up for. Subaru because I think it's a fine car. Again, not getting a dime. But no, today. I saw a guy looking at me at a stop sign. and he kept thinking, I think that's. Conan. But he looks like he's delivering.

pizzas. >> Yeah. >> I've always heard Christian Bale drives. like a really shitty early 90s coupe. because he thinks no one recognizes him. if they see him in it. >> Yeah. >> But then he has that bumper sticker that. says, I am Christian Bale. >> Oh, yeah. >> That always it up. >> I'm Batman. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> That's cool. >> I should just get a ton of bumper. stickers that say things like, I am. Conan O'Brien. Conan O'Brien needs a. friend. Yes, it's me. Uh. >> I'm Batman. >> I'm Bat No, >> No, you're not. [laughter].

>> Well, I'm kind of Batman in a way. >> How so? >> Well, for years I worked at night, uh. you know, and. >> Wasn't it you taped during the day? You. worked at night. >> I watched my parents murdered and it. made me. >> [laughter]. >> want to stop crime. >> see the murder. You sat and just like. watched. That implies like you. knew it was going to happen. >> [laughter]. >> That's how I always. You know, that they always talk about. the Batman story, like Bruce Wayne is in. an alley and he witnesses his parents. getting but I think I like the idea more. that he watched. Like he heard his.

parents were in trouble and he went, "Hold up.". And he went and he got popcorn and he. just he sat on a trash can in that alley. in Gotham. He's like, "This All right, proceed. This will be formative.". >> Yeah, it could [laughter] lead to. something. >> Well, you know what? He really wanted to. turn into an amazing superhero and he. knew the best way was to watch his. parents get shot in alley. So he kept. contriving situations. Like, "Hey, what do you guys think is. down that alley, Mom and Dad?". >> [laughter]. >> Well, I don't know, Bruce. Let's not. worry about it. I don't know, it looks. pretty good. He tried that for for at least 2 years.

>> [laughter]. >> And then finally he just took his mom's. pearl necklace and just threw it down. the alley. She was like, "Bruce, you're. an Help me. Help me, Bruce Sr.". I don't know the dad's name, do you? >> Uh. Thomas. >> I was I looked right at Blay. >> Wait, you know what? It was Thomas. Guess what? This is a nerd sting. operation. >> Uh-oh. [screaming]. Busted. Take him away, boys. >> I'm so glad I passed. >> You know what? I did this whole thing to. get to this and then say, "I wonder what.

that. >> And also, Blade, did that thing I love. He grabs the mic. and he yanks it almost out of its holder. up to his mouth and he went, "Thomas.". >> And did you notice there was a a split. second before he answered, but that. wasn't because he didn't know. It was. him going, "Should I do this?". >> That is actually correct. That is 100%. >> And what was his mom's name? >> Uh I uh a Martha. >> Nope. Enid. >> No, it's Martha. >> I just made up Enid. >> I'm just I thought [laughter]. for a second his name was Wayne Wayne. >> There's an alternate There's an. >> [laughter].

>> Wayne Wayne would have been cool. >> And Wayne Wayne promised never to get. shot in an alley. [laughter]. >> There's an alternate. >> And his And his his the wife's name was. Lil. >> [laughter]. >> Yes. >> Wayne Wayne. Wayne Wayne and. Lil Wayne walked down the alley. >> I hate it here. I hate it here. >> [laughter]. >> Anyway, you are under arrest. >> There's an alternate reality that I No. one's asking. There's an alternate. reality. >> But you're still telling it. >> Yeah. >> [laughter].

>> Yeah. Uh version of Batman where uh. Bruce and Martha get killed and Thomas, the father, becomes Batman. >> Oh, yeah. I know that Batman. He has a. lot of trouble getting around. He's like. 58. >> [laughter]. >> He's He's like, "I'll get you, Joker. Got to soak this hip first.". >> [laughter]. >> Um Yeah, [clears throat] it doesn't. really make sense. >> It was a big reveal. I just I was just. excited about it. >> Excited about what? >> The fact that there was an alternate. reality where the the dad is Batman. >> There's always an alternate reality.

But that's cool. >> We've talked about this before. I don't. like portals in in Marvel movies and I. don't like alternate realities. >> Did you. >> I don't. Stick to one reality and write. a good story. Hey, it worked for. Hemingway. But no, alternate realities. You know, what if what if Bruce Wayne. was allergic to corn? >> There's an alternate reality. What. what's your what's your alternate. reality? What's your alternate. >> where you not have a pod. No, this. happened last night cuz by now the. summer spouses thing has come out and we. were out in the in the lobby watching.

our three spouses do a podcast without. us and it felt like an alternate time. line. >> It did feel that way. It watching. you know, Tack, Amanda, Liza do a. podcast and they were sitting in our. exact places. It it did look like this. was some weird fold in time or ripple. They had the podcasts and we were. disgruntled. >> Oh wait wait. >> What? >> Oh oh let's get to that. What do you. mean? So hmm okay. >> [laughter]. >> You didn't like Liza being in your seat.

You got. you got angry. >> No no in the alternate reality. >> Yes, because in real life I know. Amanda's very unhappy with you and. Tack's very unhappy with you and we all. know Liza's every day is like why did I. make this deal with the devil? >> Um. >> I think they all three took this thing. as a launching pad to get out from from. what they're. >> Yeah. Liza misunderstood when she showed. up for this thing. She had packed a bag. >> [laughter].

>> She's like. >> I got I got home she seemed disappointed. when we were going home together and I. got there and before she could get. upstairs I found a note. It said if. you're reading this it means I've. launched my own. I have joined Tack and Amanda and we've. escaped our dreadful lives. >> [laughter]. >> I was like hey what's this and she went. oh don't mind that. It's a creative writing assignment. >> [laughter]. >> But then I noticed out of rags she had. made a rope that went out the window. >> This doesn't even make sense. >> Uh makes a little sense. >> the podcast with me. >> [laughter]. >> Anyway, maybe took that too far but um.

>> I think what's that? Our front door. doesn't work. >> Oh it doesn't work? >> Yeah and the fire. the fire department keeps saying you. need to change that. And like uh do. doors really need to open?". Uh back door doesn't work either. >> Um how do you get in and out? >> I have to go through the chimney. >> [laughter]. >> To me, every day is Christmas. >> Oh god. >> [laughter]. >> Um. >> Imagine if Santa Claus was Conan. Oh. god. >> You imagine a lean, sarcastic Santa. Claus?

>> Every child would be given a stamp that. just says invoice. >> Or something on it. >> The only way they get presents is if he. wakes them up and they laugh at. something he does. >> And if they don't. >> That's the nice list. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. It's Santa flying around. It's me. as Santa flying around looking at a list. of kids that find me amusing. And then. [laughter]. I'd have I'd have 6 billion kids on. Earth. There's three kids on the list. >> just a lottery. >> Yeah, it's just three kids on the list. >> Yeah. You get stuck at one kid for like. >> happen to be kids that know that's the.

rule. SO THEY'RE LIKE, [laughter] "AH!". "WOW, GREAT ANECDOTE ABOUT the '90s.". >> [laughter]. >> I'm going to say we should examine this. opening because it might be one of the. dumber ones. >> It's pretty dumb. >> Yeah, pretty dumb. Pretty bad. But you. got a lot. >> learn the Wayne parents' names. >> Yeah. That's right. Wayne Wayne and Lil. Wayne. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Uh. all right. My guest today is an Emmy. Award-winning actress. She's probably.

out the door now. >> [laughter]. >> I would be. >> This is idiocy. >> Where's that alternate timeline? How do. I get in that? >> [laughter]. >> Uh she starred as Agent Dana Scully in. The X-Files, of course. Now you can see. her in the new movie Teenage Sex and. Death at Camp Miasma. They stole my. title. She's so talented. Uh she's incredible. And thrilled. Uh. this is her first time on the podcast. Uh can't wait to chat with her today. Gillian Anderson, welcome.

I'm thrilled you're here. And I realized. this morning, I think the last time we. chatted was 1995. >> That's crazy. >> And you came on uh the Late Night Show. Hm? >> I was a baby. >> You were a baby. Somehow. >> to me. >> [laughter]. >> at that time. >> I probably was. And and but I look at it. now, you are a baby when you come. walking out. I look like a slightly. older baby. Uh I and I definitely look like someone. who should not be having a talk show.

[laughter] Hosting a show. Um and so. uh you know, I'm glad that we can. reunite now when I'm a little more. seasoned. >> Yes. And I'm old enough to know what. nonplussed means. >> [laughter]. >> There's so much to talk about. Uh you. have a new movie that we're going to. talk about with one of my favorite. people, Hannah Einbinder. I was going to. start with. this fact about you that I didn't know. Which is that in your class you were.

voted girl most likely to get arrested. >> Correct. >> [laughter]. >> And then you made good on that. >> I did. >> You got arrested. >> For breaking into your own high school? >> Yeah. Well, we were trying to glue the. locks shut so that people couldn't uh go. in the next day. >> Right. Or get out if there's a fire. It works both ways. >> Yes, but there weren't any people in the. building at the [laughter] time. It was. It was the middle of the night. >> Yeah, that's an aggressive prank. >> Yeah.

>> That's. >> That was kind of me at that time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> You had a your hair was shaved on the. sides. You were. >> Yeah. >> You went through like Is it a punk. phase? What would you describe it as? >> Yeah, it was a punk phase. But I had. very point I had pointy buckle boots on. and uh they were they had a very thin. sole. And so when the security guard was. chasing me through downtown Grand. Rapids, I stepped on a nail. >> Uh-huh. >> And that's what slowed me down. >> [laughter].

>> So were were it not for the nail, you. would it not for the nail, I would have. outsmarted him and I would not have been. arrested. But because I'd been. Let's just say I was doing a little. crystal meth at the time. [laughter]. And I was in a really good mood and I. managed to talk them out of breaking and. entering and just into trespassing. >> Oh. >> But my boyfriend who was with me at the. time, who was considerably older than I. was,

went back to his apartment and smoked. some more dope and just kept drinking. the night away while I was in prison. >> With a nail through your foot, whacked. out on crystal meth. >> Those were good times. >> Those were. >> [laughter]. >> Hey, tell her your crystal meth story. >> Okay. >> [laughter]. >> So, about 4 hours ago. I find it looks like just little dust to. me. And I'm like, I'm going to put that in. my nose. And then I found a gun and it just goes. on and on and on. Um.

I I I I found that to be fascinating. I. also. uh your. sort of bifurcated past of. being, you know, I think born in London, but then moving to. How does it work? No? >> Uh born born in the States. >> Born in the States, but then you moved. to London. >> Moved to London. Yeah. >> Uh-huh. >> Grew up in London until 11. Moved back. to the States. >> back. >> And then I moved back post. X-Files. >> Okay. >> bachelor in London. I was there for 24.

years. >> But I have this theory. >> Mhm. >> that. just bear with me. >> Yeah. >> Okay. You are. >> funny. >> You are so [laughter] nonplussed. Sometimes uh. I find that really creative people go. through this period in their youth when. they kind of don't know who they are and. that might be fuel. And if you're in. Grand Rapids, but you have a. a a. a British accent. and you don't quite know how you fit in, that maybe that's fuel.

>> Oh, 100%. I mean, I think when I. you know, when I first got there, I did. have a British accent. I worked very. hard to. to uh erase it. And but it would pop up, you know, in. restaurants when I'd be ordering a you. know, or trying to show off or something. like that. It would It would pop up. But. um. But then, you know, because it was. um. my first language, my first dialect, so.

to speak, the first time I spoke it was. with a British accent. Um. It was so ingrained in my system that. it's it's near impossible for me to be. around Brits um without falling into it. It feels more. It feels as intrinsically. part of me as my American accent. >> I did a thing with Hugh Laurie once uh. on the set of House, and he was playing. Dr. House in this little thing we did.

for the Emmys, I think, and. someone on the crew was British and said. something to him, and he was like, "Oh. my god, please don't" cuz he. If he heard the British accent, he would. fall back into it. And um it was quite. disconcerting. Like But I could see that. he just couldn't have it around. >> Yeah. Sometimes if I'm doing interviews. that I know we're going to go out in the. States, but the interviewer is British, I have to really focus, like really like.

almost split my brain to not, you know, to keep, you know, to keep it American. >> I always think it's funny if to think of. even think of a. someone from. the UK trying to lose their accent, because I love that accent so much. >> Do you know, I I come from Boston, Massachusetts, and that's an accent you. want to lose. And I don't care who from. Boston hears [laughter] that. That had. to go. Um and if I you know or from Cranston,

Rhode Island, that accent has to go. But. when I whenever I hear someone with a. with a British accent, I just think it's. fantastic. I'm envious. >> I think it was uh an attempt initially. maybe to to feel like I fit in and then. also cuz. you know, when I was growing up in the. UK and I. you know, I spoke like a Brit, my. parents were referred to as Yanks. So I. was teased because my parents were. Yanks. And so. and then when we visited um.

America, it was so. um sunny and sugary and um it. represented. uh lightness and joy and possibility as. opposed to London at the time in the. '70s, which was you know, mashed. potatoes and. curry. Um. >> [laughter]. >> Um and quite depressing. >> Like what's wrong with that? >> [laughter]. >> No, but it was yeah. >> for me if I yeah. Well, also the '70s is in Britain and.

you know, in in England famously uh kind. of depressed and. >> Very, very depressed. Yeah. And um. and so I think I you know, I was almost. forcing myself to to switch. >> I was also very surprised at just how. young you were when you started X-Files. You're 24. And you lied. to the producers and said you were 27. I'm not sure what what difference. >> Three [laughter] years. >> Yeah. Oh, is it three?

>> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> I'm really glad I chimed in. >> you check that on the internet, please? >> Yep, it's three. >> [laughter]. >> But uh. that is so young. >> Yeah. >> To get. >> Yeah. >> I mean. >> I was playing somebody who had degrees. already and had, you know, was already. in the FBI and had gone through medical. school. So, you know, I I should have. been not 24. for it to be real. >> Sometimes when people have that.

success and they're young, they don't. enjoy it. Did you enjoy that. fame for, you know, that you didn't. enjoy it. Yeah. >> Yeah, hated it. I mean, I I think we. were very lucky that we were shooting up. in Vancouver for the first 5 years cuz. um, you know, when we were in LA, you. know, we had the experience that a lot. of celebrities did at that time, which. is followed everywhere and. chased down the street and photographed. with the kids in playgrounds and all.

that kind of stuff, which um, I found. disturbing and that really angered me. I. pointed my car at many paparazzi over. the years. Um, and uh, so being up there and not having. that, it just didn't exist. Up in. Vancouver was very freeing and also um, it just felt like it was it was separate. from the business. >> Yeah. >> And I think that kept us a little saner. than we might have gone. >> Plus the schedule on a show like that in.

and X-Files in particular was grueling. >> Yeah. >> Um, you're probably have to be. and sometimes that's the savior. Like I. always found a lot of times the work. if I have to do a intense amount of. work, it saves me at the same time. >> Mhm. >> Because I have to be locked in. If. you're in Vancouver and you have to be. on set at, I don't know, 5:00, 6:00 in. the morning and. the productions go on and on. This one. went on for 9 years. >> Yeah. >> Um, I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. >> [laughter].

>> But we um, you know, our our. as you know, you start at 5:00 a.m., but. by the time you get to Friday, your call. time is 1:00 p.m. because you have. 12-hour or turnarounds. And so we'd. shoot until the middle of Saturday. Um and they were, you know, 16-17-hour. days and we shot seven pages a day. You know, and there were, you know, it. was mostly the two of us pretending to. be the smartest people on planet Earth. >> [laughter]. >> And which meant that we had a lot.

to say. >> I I mean, the speeches are fantastic, but they are so they're it's. interlocking prose. um and. you I mean. you guys were so good, but you could. just toss it off, but I know that that. was and took an incredible amount of. work to get there. >> Yeah, it did. But Chris told me so I. mean that there was a particular way. that we used to speak in the show that. it that wasn't a normal rhythm and.

syntax. It was slightly backwards, um. which felt like it was almost part of. the the the cryptic aspect of the. series. And it wasn't until we were. working on this I think the second. feature and I was sitting in a parked. vehicle waiting to shoot and. uh our our showrunner um and creator. Chris Carter came up to me, who was. directing the feature. And he said he.

looked at my sides where my lines were. and he said, "Look, no widows.". And I said, "What What are you talking. about?" He said, "No No widows on the on. you know, your little paragraphs that. each character has.". Um the word went all the way to the end. with the period, so there wasn't any you. didn't like end halfway through that. line. So it was a perfect So the perfect. rectangle. So the dialogue was designed. >> visually.

>> [laughter]. >> Wow. >> for nine years. >> [laughter]. >> Wow. >> That's So you're struggling you're. >> Wow. >> You're struggling with his OCD. Yeah, that's incredible. >> You [laughter] kidding me? >> Just so it looks a certain way on the. page. >> That's. amazing. >> Yeah, it's frustrated. >> Amazing.

>> Archi- student of architecture. I know. >> I love him and I appreciate him and I. don't mean to call him out because it's. just it's such a fantastic It's like it. says some I mean it's like. >> Was that his term widow? So. >> I don't know. I I assume. >> broken in half I guess it's yeah, it's. lost its other half, you know, so yeah, I guess. >> That's sad. >> Or or or even the line is broken in. half. The actual yeah. >> I love that and I'm going to start. >> I know. >> structuring the podcast that way. >> you just adjust the margins?

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Branch. Terms and more at applecard.com. Show had an incredible impact, and. famously there's this, you know, term, the Scully effect, where a lot of. young women were watching, and they. it was. unusual at that time, um. sadly, >> To see a smart woman on TV. >> a Yeah, to see a really smart, empowered, independent woman on. television who was incredibly well. educated and confident.

and. >> and an equal to her co-worker. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so. >> in principle. >> Yeah. Not a bobble, not a, you know, uh. and and this was. um. a lot of women have said they saw that. show and it made them want to go into. STEM, made them want to maybe try to be. in the FBI, try to which is remarkable. >> Yeah. I I I I still I I I still people. coming up to me and telling me that they. are in, you know, a physicist because of.

Scully or a police officer or a, you. know, name the fill in the blank. It. still happens. >> Yeah, that's a lot I mean, that's a I. don't know. It's a nice It's a nice. gift. >> I mean, it's it's been written into. textbooks and stuff. And still, you. know, not only does it still exist in a. way even though, um you know, it isn't a a a weekly TV. show, but there's a lot of. um people whose lives the show really. affected, whether they watched it with.

their parents who's no longer alive or. they watched it during a difficult. period of time for them or their I know. I still have people that come up to me. that say they watch it every day. But um that feels like a rite of passage. for them to pass it on to um to their. kids. And so there are whole new. generations that are discovering it. Um. which is pretty awesome. >> Yeah. You can. you make friends with all these people. you haven't met. You know, we're in a in. a way you have this very powerful.

connection. Which is nice and it's enduring. Um. I I applaud you. And I also applaud. myself. >> Why you? >> I just thought it for symmetry. >> No. >> Uh you know, looking at how it would. look on the page. You want to have make. sure that. >> This is the time we can have a widow. Just let [laughter] it. >> You have so many great performances, but. I love the show The Crown and you played. Margaret Thatcher. >> Oh, yeah. >> on The Crown and you were stunning.

Absolutely stunning. Margaret Thatcher fascinates me. I know. that she's very controversial to say the. least in England, but you. made me sympathize with her. Um. and. uh I. was really blown away. There's a There's. a part in your performance where. Thatcher realizes she's losing power. and your depiction of her this.

this I mean famously this woman of steel. the Iron Lady. it was just it's fantastic and I'm. wondering. how do you approach Okay, you're going. to play someone everybody knows this. person. There's thousands of hours of footage. ever but you made her your own. I don't. even understand how that. I know it's called acting, but. >> [laughter]. >> I I don't know how you take on a project.

like that. >> Um. so I I I knew I was going to be doing it. for some time. So I had a good run-up to. it um. and although the the scripts weren't. written yet um as you say there's. there's a ton of material out there. Um. she'd written a couple of. autobiographies and so I started. listening to um one of them uh on repeat. in in my car when I was driving and I. did a lot of driving at the time um.

with kids and stuff and so. uh that was one way in. There was also a. um. a series of BBC six-part series that. happened to. land. exactly during that time while I was. doing preparation, which was. also the most uh personal. take on her, the most insight into the. behind-the-scenes. uh of her life.

um. during those years. And. some of the most helpful footage that. was in there, which had never really. been seen before, was. there were a couple interviews that she. did where she doesn't know that the. camera's rolling. So, even though you've. got these um you've got other. documentaries that have been made about. her or little snippets for TV shows, you. know, when she's showing people around. number 10 or she's. um you know, got her apron on because. she's in the kitchen and she's making.

coffee for her ministers or whatever it. is, she's still on camera. So, that's a. a public version of herself. >> the everywoman, you know, and but these. moments before she would do an. interview, she didn't know the camera. was rolling and she was going through. her lines in her head um or one of them. was practicing a speech. And she was, you know, uh working on the lines in her. head, she was bending down to her purse. to take a sweet out and put it in her. mouth. I mean, these are like gold,

>> Yeah. >> right? >> Yeah. >> You don't [clears throat] get to see. that stuff. And so, the mixture of the. little tidbits of of pseudo. behind-the-scenes that you got to see in. the this doc and also these these. moments of vulnerability um were really, really helpful. And you know, the one. just starts it was important to. maintain, for instance, a little bit of. my own voice within her voice to not. push too hard into.

into her I I I really didn't want it to. feel like it was pantomime. And there. was enough. >> Yeah. >> with the costumes and with the wig and. her particular walk and all that that. you could they would be quite easy to. kind of slip into that. So, somebody. said something that was. really valuable, which is that but you. get quite a lot for free when you cast. me as Margaret Thatcher. So, I don't.

have to work for those things that I. know, you know, just in terms of my. seriousness or my ability to look like I. might be intelligent even if I might be. thinking about my socks or you know what. I mean? I just. >> [laughter]. >> have a resting intelligent face even if. I'm. the least smart person in the room, [laughter] right? So, you get those. things for free. >> face, I love that. >> I'm going to try and. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, no.

>> It's not working. >> It's not working. I'm looking even. dumber somehow. >> [laughter]. >> Um and so, that was really helpful cuz. it felt like I could let go of trying to. fill in those blanks and just work on. uh anyway, so but you know, with that as. with anything you try. you prepare, you do your best, you show. up, and then you just I I mean, I really. felt like I was like crossing my fingers. before it came out cuz I didn't know. I. didn't know if it would work, I didn't. know if I'd be ridiculed, I didn't know. if people who really knew her would say,

"Oh my god, what a joke. I mean, why did. they cast her in the first place?" You. know what I mean? You don't know. And. so, it was um it was nice to get. >> Yeah, it was absolutely spectacular. And. I know stage is a big part of your life. Um you did. um this production of A Streetcar. Oh, [laughter]. I I knew it. >> Sorry, sorry, sorry. No, no, no, I understand. I understand. >> Um that's not what I was going to say.

>> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. Um it was a different production. Oklahoma. You were fantastic. [laughter]. You were just perfect. >> No, your your street car is just kind of. famously amazing and um. I know that you've talked about the. anxiety you have. When I see. I when I go to the theater. even though I'm. nominally in show business, I am. terrified.

for actors going up on their lines. >> Yeah. >> It can be hard for me to uh relax and. you know, obviously if it's someone like. John Lithgow in in Giant, I I know okay, I'm John's John's got this. You don't. have to worry, but I I. can't imagine anything more terrifying. than being in front of an audience and. going up on your lines and I was. [clears throat] I was shocked. >> Conan. >> [laughter]. >> Thank you so much. I'm I'm about to do a.

play. >> [laughter]. >> I start rehearsal next Monday. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. I really It was nice. seeing you. >> was It was really nice having you. So, let's see. It'll be 32 years until I see you again. >> [laughter]. >> We're like comets that pass each other. Um. but not in a good way. Uh. >> [laughter]. >> But you're so. But you're you're. I don't know. It It stunned me a little.

bit that that would be a concern of. yours when. >> Oh, it's it's it's always a concern. Uh. and also just brain stuff, you know, as. we get older. >> I talk about this all the time. >> He was just talking about this before. you came in. >> Yeah. I came in this morning and I put I. mean, I realized on the drive to work. that my wedding finger was on the other. hand. >> finger? [laughter]. >> The wedding finger. >> Your wedding ring? >> I'm telling you. You joke about it, but I'm I'm I'm. telling you there are days where I'm. convinced. >> Yeah.

>> I mean, that's a very primal thing to do. to put to switch the rings on the. different hands. >> I don't know. It's just rings. >> I also had a lot to drink this morning. >> [laughter]. >> That's that's more. >> But, um. no. I just. >> No, the brain stuff. I I I can't necessarily rely on it or I. don't feel like I can 100%. I I know. other actors who, you know, Olivia. Colman famously will memorize on the way. to work in the car. paragraphs and be ready and word.

perfect. I would literally give my lower. half of my body for that. >> [laughter]. >> For that. >> So specific. >> talent. And how do you walk around on stage? [laughter]. >> Yeah, that would. She only plays. She only plays Franklin Roosevelt. >> [laughter]. >> She's playing Roosevelt again? >> [laughter]. >> Uh. um yeah. So, you know,

I'll do my best. >> [laughter]. >> Well, I. I'm sorry. I wish I could encourage you, but. I There's no nothing to indicate that. this you're going to make it in the. theater. There's just nothing. You're in. terrible trouble. >> [laughter]. >> Um. >> Jeez. Wowza. >> You know, I mean, you know, if only you. had done some past work that would. recommend. Um let's talk about teenage sex and. death at Camp Myasma. I knew nothing. about the film. I got to watch it last night. I love.

going in knowing nothing and. whenever even someone tries to tell me, sometimes in the notes they'll say, you. know, this is about and I I. intentionally don't look. But, um. it is spectacular. Visually, it's very. um. it has to have a fantasy element to it. It's. the the visuals it it feels. it's a heightened reality. >> Yeah. >> It's really great. It's you, Hana. Einbinder. I'm a. I adore her. And so when I found out.

both of you were in this, I was like, I. am down. I'm going to like this and I. really did. It's unusual. It's a It's I. haven't quite seen a movie like this. >> So it's Jane Schoenbrun who did um I saw. the TV Glow and um we're all going to. the World's Fair. >> Mhm. >> And um this feels very much like it's in. conversation with TV Glow in a way. Um. but it's a queer slasher film.

>> Mhm. >> And there's a lot of blood. But it's very funny and it's not very. scary. >> It's really funny and the blood often. feels comedic. It's not It's almost. Yeah, it's Monty Python blood. You know, someone's head will get lopped off and. just an amount of blood coming out of. the neck and the force with which it. comes out is cartoon It's a cartoon in. in in places, but um I think what I. liked so much about the story is. Hana's looking for Jillian who's this.

reclusive. reclusive actor who was in this very. famous slasher film and has has retired. and is living up in the area where they. shot the film. And. >> I love how you don't want to be told the. plot and you're telling everybody else. you. >> [laughter]. >> No. Right? And let me tell you who did it. >> [laughter]. >> But there have been many many iterations. of this film. There have been many. remakes that have kind of bastardized it.

over the years and so. Hana's character Chris has been given. the. the opportunity to. remake the film. as she believes it should have always. been remade in its second iteration. And. so. she she comes looking for me to convince. me to be a part of it and um and then it. kind of turns into a bit of a romance. >> Yeah. Also, I love that your characters.

are rewatching. the old movie up at the camp where they. shot the movie. It's it's. it it's it's like an Escher drawing. The. hand drawing the hand. It's this great. um conceit that they're in a horror. movie, but they're studying a horror. movie. Um I think you'll really love it. You. can check it out. And now you know what. it's all about. >> [laughter]. >> But I haven't really given much away. Or. have I? It's just a lovely film. It. really is. And so I I'm I'm happy for.

you about that and I really also want to. talk about more because. this book, I believe um will be coming. out in September. And. you wrote a you or you collected a book. uh called Want. >> You put out a book called Want. >> And. it was. I would say like a labor of What would. you call it? A labor of love that you. This was something you really This is.

something you really wanted to put out. there. >> Yeah, so um I I was actually approached. while I was doing sex education, um. which was a series I did on Netflix. I. was playing a sex therapist and um to. Asa Butterfield's uh character was my. son and um a lot of publishers had. approached me through my book agent. um. uh saying, you know, would I be. interested in doing a book as this.

therapist or talking to women about. their sex lives, etc. etc. And um you. know, she had. uh. rejected um. a few offers and then she had an idea. which is um in '73, which is the same. year as Roe v. Wade, Um, Nancy Friday uh. uh put together a book called My Secret. Garden. [clears throat]. >> Mhm. >> And it was a collection of letters that. she had um collected from her community.

of friends and women writers. Uh they. she asked them to anonymously submit. their fantasies to her and then she. published them and she wrote. introductions um. to the to the book and to the chapters. and um and so the idea was that we could. do one again and see if anything's. changed since the 70s given particularly. given. uh. the state of the porn industry and our.

uh. collective addiction to it and uh just. how much sex is out there and available. to everybody at all times. >> Mhm. >> Uh has that affected our ability to um. uh to be honest with both ourselves and. our um our sexual partners about what it. is that we. uh. our our deepest uh most intimate.

thoughts and also uh shame around it. It. is there for me I was really interested. to know whether there was um whether. because of how second nature. sex and sexuality and that is such a uh. uh the forefront of so many. conversations and advertisements and TV. shows and etc. these days um has that. had an impact on women's internal lives. and their sense of themselves, their.

bodies, their um. uh levels of self-acceptance and shame. etc. And so what when she my agent. brought up the idea of doing this book. um. it made sense to me. Like, because I was. on the show, um I thought it would be. really interesting to um to know the. answer. And I thought, you know what? It. it makes sense that I do this based on. um. based on the character that I play, based on the fact that simultaneously I.

was also launching a functional drinks. brand called G Spot. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Um. >> I was going to ask you about G Spot. >> Um. You know where to find it. Um. I. >> [laughter]. >> I've heard. >> about the soft drinks or the. >> I can never I I every time I look, I. can't find it. >> [laughter]. >> And they say, "No, it's right next to. the Pepsi." And I'm like, I I still. can't find it. >> I'll send you some. >> All along it was next to the Pepsi. >> [laughter].

>> Um and so I thought that would be I. thought it would be a great idea. So, you know, we pitched it out and we both. went with Bloomsbury and and with. Bloomsbury we set up a portal, a a. secure portal, and invited women around the world to to. send in letters. And we got, you know, a lot a lot a lot. And we narrowed it. down to 174. >> Mhm. >> And I wrote uh introductions. introduction to the book and to the. chapters. And that was wanted. And um it.

had I remember about a year uh shortly. after I had uh put the call out, so to. speak, for women to write in, I was. doing press for um. uh a Netflix film that I did called uh. Scoop. And I was talking I was in New. York talking to uh women journalists. And they didn't want to talk about. Scoop. They wanted to talk about this. book that I was. >> [laughter]. >> that that I was about to do. And I. thought, "Oh, this is really. interesting. There is actually a big. appetite for it. And women are curious.".

Um and and, you know, it did it did. well enough that we thought we'd do. another one and try and reach even more. women. The point of it is for it to be. as inclusive and diverse and. raw. and. as possible and I think that this new. one is even bolder. Yeah. Even more audacious. >> Yeah. I don't know how you grew up, but. what's fascinating to me and I, you.

know, love my parents and had a I think. a happy childhood, but. um sex was just never discussed in any. way and it was almost nullified. Like. it's just not a thing. Um even though. I'd look around and realize there's six. of us. >> [laughter]. >> Born born literally like 10 months. apart. So something's going on. somewhere, but. um. >> [laughter]. >> it and that was the. >> Something's going on somewhere.

>> Yeah. You were egg hatched. >> Golly, something's up. >> I'm a [laughter] good detective. I have. my little Sherlock Holmes cap. But but. it was. um and I think however much that was so. for me even probably more so for. the. you know, the women in my family. I. think it was really. uh. um. you know, that's just not something. that exists or desire or anything like. that. It was something that wasn't. discussed and so I.

uh. it's it shouldn't be shocking and. shouldn't be any kind of revelation, but. flipping through the book. and just reading all of these fantasies. by these different women is incredible. It's really it's really amazing. Um. who knew that they could feel pleasure? >> Well, women? >> Yeah. >> Oh. >> Yeah. Well, women I've been with. >> [laughter]. >> Well, maybe not them.

>> Def- definitely not them. >> [laughter]. >> I'm saying yeah. >> Some of them have written into this. book. >> [laughter]. >> And they haven't even redacted your. name. >> No. Or theirs. My wife wrote in seven times to this. book. [laughter]. I can tell. She's like. >> But also what's remarkable about it is. there is such, you know, there's such. tenderness and joy and and. uh so much heart um and loneliness and.

you know, there are women in there who. are, you know, haven't even, you know, have maybe just gone through puberty. Girls. There are women who haven't lost. their virginity yet. There are women in. their 70s who who talk about um just. wanting to be kissed and held because. they've never really had that in. relationship before. And um it's it's. really. remarkable but but it also it it begs.

more investigation when you start to to. read it or even if you imagine yourself. writing a a fantasy down, you know, the. transference from it being in in, you. know, the sacredness and the the the. secret space of your mind to transfer it. onto a piece of paper or onto a computer. let alone, you know, send it through the. ethers to. um a publishing house. But that um.

it's. once you start to ask the question. you know, what what is it that I you. know, what is it that I want? What is it. that I dream about? What what's the gap. between what my fantasy is and what my. experience is? A lot of people, if they fantasize, wouldn't necessarily want the fantasy to. actually happen. But if it you start to. ask questions about, you know,

what am I getting what I need in that. area of my life? And if I'm not, how am. I. participating in the me not getting. that, you know? And therefore, if I am. participating if I am complicit in that. relationship of not getting what I want, also are there other areas of my life. that I'm that I have needs and wants. that I'm not expressing and I'm I'm. keeping myself from experiencing the. fullness of what I could in my life. And.

so, really deep questions start to take. place when you start to interrogate. these things. >> And I think phones and the ubiquity of. the internet has really complicated. things because there's a whole. generation. that feels they can get a lot of their. needs met just on their phone. And what. is that. interrupting? What is that you know, what is what is that.

dampening? What is that and. I was listening to a long I think it was. a New York Times podcast about it where. they said. there are. people that say why risk going out and. meeting people and possibly getting. rejected and having all the discomfort. and weirdness that might go with a. hookup when I can stay in and watch. pornography and. I'm safe and. >> Yeah. >> no effort. >> Yeah. >> So, you know. >> Yeah. >> It's.

it's it's really great that you're doing. these books. It really is and I'm sure a. lot of people are. getting a lot of solace information and. not feeling alone. Not feeling like, oh, this is just me. I'm ashamed. Something's I'm a freak. Something's. wrong with me. >> Yeah. Well, then we I've done some events to. raise funds for charity around it. I did. um, in the UK at the Barbican and. uh, Royal Albert Hall did events, um, you know, in full houses inviting, you.

know, uh, women and men and everything in between. hearing, um, uh, celebrities, uh, handful of celebrities reading from the. book and um, just the sense of, um, you. know, uh, unity and uh, recognition and joy and. hilarity and, um, you know, in this in. this new book the two. letters that I, um, talk about the most.

just one for the juxtaposition. but also because of, um, just it shows. the, um, you know, the the the the multitudes of. complexity within a woman's experience. is one woman who fantasizes about being. in a vat of spaghetti. and naked and she's sliding around and. there are meatballs sliding around and. >> Oh, that one was mine. That was. >> [laughter]. >> Well, thank you so much. It's gotten so. much attention that one. [laughter].

Um, being like, >> It really had nothing. It was not an. erotic fantasy at all. >> [laughter]. >> It's just she loves spaghetti. Yeah, yeah. >> Um, but it's really it's really. delightful and every you know, it really. sticks in people's minds. Um, and then. another one a woman who has recently had. a. uh, double mastectomy who is, um, you. know, curious about, um, not just. uh,

relearning her new body but having the. experience of learning it and feeling it. again through uh, uh, through somebody else in their. experience of it. So, looking forward to. having, um, a sexual experience, um, but with this new body and exploring. what what's, you know, the the different. ways that um, she can feel again, um, uh, something that she hasn't for quite. a while. And, you know, obviously that's.

incredibly moving and, you know, extraordinary that somebody took the. time to, um, write about that and to send it in. and to share that very vulnerable. experience. Um, so there's a. a. >> [clears throat]. >> very wide range of. >> But also, I'm sure healing for them to. get this book and see that they're in. there and they've. >> Yeah. >> they're being heard. >> Yes. >> in a in a very powerful way. >> Yeah, I've got one more story which is. at at the last uh, the penultimate event.

that I did at the Barbican, uh, Olivia Wilde read a particular story. about a woman who fantasized, who moved. into a new neighborhood with her husband. and good friends for, uh, they've been married for a long time and. there was a woman who lived down the. street in her new neighborhood and she, um, uh, fantasized about her. After the. show,

I did a meet and greet, uh, to raise. more money for charity and, um, a woman. was there and she said, "My letter was. read tonight.". >> Oh, wow. >> And I said, "Wow, which one?" And she. said, "If you don't mind telling me.". >> She had a meatball on her head. >> [laughter]. >> She still had spaghetti sauce on the. side of her face. >> I mean, guess. >> [laughter]. >> Um, she said the one that Olivia Wilde read. and I was trying to think, I was trying.

to think and she said, "And this is my new partner.". >> Oh, wow. That's great. >> She was actually there sitting in the. audience with the woman that she was now. partnered with having fantasized about. And I have to say the book is not a. proponent for leaving long-term. relationships [laughter] and you know, throwing a wrench into your lives, but. at the same time, you know, it's an. extraordinary story and experience and. those things happen for people. >> It really is remarkable. Um, just want. to make sure that yeah, Want is the.

original, which is always available, and. More is coming out, I think in a couple. of weeks. >> Mhm. September 10th, I think, yeah. >> Yeah, and um, Teenage Sex and Death at. Camp Miasma is a wonderful film. Doesn't. roll off the tongue, that title. [laughter]. Uh, but it's really wonderful. And um, it has been way too long since I had a. chance to talk to you, and you're. remarkable, really are, and. so thrilled that you could make the time.

to come in and talk to us. >> Thank you. That was such a pleasure. It. was nice to see you again. >> Nice to see you as well. Well, that's. our time. >> [laughter]. >> I've never ended that way. I'm. pretending we're a radio show now. It's news and weather now. 10 on the 10. By the way, the wellness drink. the G spot. >> So, it's it's not actually. >> It's not a wellness drink. No, no, no, it's like a it's a healthy functional. soda. >> Okay. >> So, it's got adaptogens and nootropics. in it like lion's mane and cordyceps and. etc. And it's. one is called lift and it's red berries.

and sarawak pepper. [clears throat]. And there's one called protect, which is. ginger and peppercorn. It also has. turmeric and vitamin B's and C's and. stuff. And then there's um, uh, soothe, which is uh, scarlet apple. and sage. And it's got chaga and it's. got a lot of sage. It's apparently. really good also with gin. But um, >> [laughter]. >> and then. >> I'm listening. Or you can just have gin. >> Or you can just have gin. No, but it's a. really good mixer too. But um, yeah. And. then um, and then there's uh, what's now.

called awaken, which is a bit of an. aphrodisiac, which we have actually. wrapped in uh, collaboration with Mubi. for the film and it's usually purple and. the liquid itself is a beautiful purple. color cuz it's got butterfly pea in it. which is um. it's real like scientific name is. clitorol or something like that or. something with the word in it but. this is the one for me but it's a very.

it's a it's yeah it gets your blood. pumping a bit anyway so we we wrapped it. with the like the movie Little Death on. the front and stuff and so it's um. >> I'm going to check that out those sound. those sound really good. >> passion fruit and habanero that one. >> You know we'll get some we'll get some. and bring it in here and have a tasting. >> I will I will I will get some sent to. you guys don't worry. >> [laughter]. >> don't don't worry about it I'll get some. sent. >> Um well thank you so much again it's. amazing Sona I understand you've been. really enjoying the new Hyundai Palisade. that's a beautiful looking machine you.

got and you've been driving around the. kids like it how's it all working out? >> The kids love it they actually call it. the all new Hyundai Palisade I'm not. even kidding [laughter]. >> How old are they they're four? >> They're four and they that's what they. call they call they tell their friends. we have an the all new Hyundai Palisade. and then that we they love driving. around in it they have so much fun. >> Tell me about some of the perks some of. the cool things about the Hyundai. Palisade hybrid. >> Well you know I'm kind of I'm not a. reckless driver but I don't always pay. attention so the car is very good at.

telling me if there's a car next to me. if there's a car behind me so I don't. drive into them. >> Yes. >> That's a very good feature for you. >> Yeah those are very good features for me. >> for a lot of people. >> Yes exactly. >> I got to say it's a very good looking. car and also I heard you blasting tunes. the other day. those are some good speakers. >> They are they're really great speakers. and you know I have to play music a lot. for Tak my husband loves music my kids. love music it's all all we have is music. on. >> You're driving around you're in like a. night club driving around it's great. >> Yeah it's a night club we're bumping.

tunes cruising Sunset Boulevard. >> All right well ready to make your next. drive feel epic? Learn more about the. Hyundai Palisade at hyundaiusa.com. Call 562-314-4603. for complete details. >> Okay, David Hopping has an item he wants. to bring to our council meeting. What do. you got there, David? >> Thank you for having me. Um I have found a quiz online that is. called platonic healthy. relationship/friendship. quiz. And we are going to find out if. you two have a healthy relationship.

>> Okay. >> This is all going to be really Sona's. answers. You're welcome to chime in. We're going to start Sona. Number one. >> Yes. Yes. >> Is Conan supportive of your passions, work, hobbies, and other aspects of your. life? Yes or no? >> Actually, yes. He is very, very. supportive. >> Yes. Does he encourage you to try new. things? >> Do you encourage Yeah, you do. You You. encourage me to get outside of my. comfort zone. >> Yeah, until like I I do suggest, you. know, try doing some work at some point. >> [laughter]. >> That's it. That's a new thing. So, yes. >> Does he listen to you when you need. support?

>> He does. He actually You know what? I'm. I thought this was going to go another. way. >> It's going really well. >> Like does he smack cookies out of your. hand? >> Does he respect your boundaries. physically, emotionally, related to your. time, or otherwise? >> No boundaries. >> I do that. If she's eating any food item. and seems to be enjoying it, I will slap. it out of her hand. >> If I'm wearing a hair bun, he will slap. it until it unravels. He uh constantly. shakes me and. >> to shake some sense into you. >> Oh, oh, thank you. Oh, thank you very. much. >> Does he create opportunities for you to. spend time with people other than. himself?

>> [laughter]. >> Are there people other than myself? So, that would be a no. >> That's a no. That's a no. >> Uh does he encourage you to balance your. time between the relationship and other. aspects of your life? >> You know what? >> Yeah. >> I do. >> that. This is a This is sincere. You do. >> like when you take care of your kids and. when you, you know, I have fun and. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, you have a healthy approach to it. >> respect you for who you are and doesn't.

try to change you? >> Uh no, he doesn't respect me for. Actually, I mean. >> I I did try to change you for a long. time and then I gave up. >> I don't know if you respect me for who I. am. I think you tolerate who I am. >> [laughter]. >> Oh god, no. No, I I have no respect. >> to say no. >> No respect. Uh is this person not. well-liked by your friends or family? >> Oh god, no. They love him. >> Come on, it's a family. >> No, that's one of the most frustrating. things about you. >> dad know I do an impression of him where. I put my finger under my nose and.

pretend it's a mustache? >> Yeah, when you call him Geppetto and. stuff, he knows all this stuff and he. still likes you as a person. >> he knows it's good stuff. >> Oh god. >> text or call you constantly wondering. where you are? >> I mean, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, back in the day, especially, yeah. Has he ever accused you of not. being a loyal member of this. relationship? >> No. >> I haven't. She is I've always said, for. all of her flaws, and there are too many. to count here, um she's one of the most. She's [laughter]. I I I trust I trust Sona with my life.

>> You know I You know I'm ride or die. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay, does he tell you to change. how you look? >> Yes, he does. >> she's got to change. >> Yeah, like you talk about me getting an. industrial press to straighten my hair? >> Yeah, but also your clothes. I give you. a hard time if you wear the same leather. jacket for years and years and years and. years and years and years on end, like. to everything. >> Big big yes, >> Does he make you check in a lot to. update him on what you're doing? >> Yes. >> Yes, I do. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Um. >> hysterical. I'm curious to see how this. is going to end up.

>> Always tells me I need to support them. and is never there for me when I need. support. >> Wait, no, I support Sona. >> He supports me. That's like kind of the. first question. >> Yeah. Does he ever make you feel bad. about yourself? >> Yes, all the time. Absolutely. >> The only way to fix Sona is to get her. to realize the monster she already is. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. >> limit your access to your own money and. does he control the finances you share. responsibility for? >> If I could control Sona's money, I. would. It would be so much fun, but I I.

don't do that. >> the source of my money. >> [laughter]. >> The golden goose. Has he ever spread a. rumor about you? >> Yes, all the time. That I steal, that I. am. >> That you floated to this country. >> Yeah, that I floated. >> a goat attack in Armenia. Your father. >> [laughter]. >> built a boat out of some thatch, put you. in the ocean, you floated, you came I. think I said you came ashore somewhere. around San Diego. >> Yes. >> when I found you and taught you to put. on clothes and how to speak English. >> Yeah, like I jumped out of a I think.

your words were I jumped out of a bush. when you were walking down the street. and I was like feral creature. >> That's what I said to Rolling Stone. magazine and they printed it. >> Yeah, they printed it. Yeah, yeah, so. yes, yes. >> I hope this answer is no. Does he ever. pressure you to engage in physical touch. like hugging or holding hands, etc. >> I mean, not sexually, but he you know. >> Did I ask you to do anything now? >> Oh, no. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Of course not. >> Does he ever blame or shame you when you. ask for help or support? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> [laughter]. >> Does he ever make you feel like you need. to change part of who you are and that.

you can't be your authentic self? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> It's a big I I don't like your authentic. self. >> Do you ever feel like you're walking on. eggshells around Conan? >> Yes, absolutely, 100%. If I wear a shirt. that's slightly different than what I. normally wear, I'm worried and I think. everybody is that you're going to make a. If God forbid I wore a denim jacket, you'd be like, "Hey, Leno called and he. wants HIS SHIRT BACK.". >> [laughter]. >> NOT ONLY WOULD I SAY THAT, I DO say.

that. >> [laughter]. >> Does he ever belittle or humiliate you. in front of OTHER PEOPLE? >> OH MY GOD. >> YEAH, I see where this thing is going. >> Does he ever? >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Does he ever grab, push, shove, kick, punch, slap, or hurt you physically in. any way? >> Yes, absolutely, >> 100%. >> Every single one of those. And that's. And also, can you Is there a place you. can write every day? >> [laughter]. >> Is there an unceasing box? >> Does Conan ever have big mood swings? They may be yelling at you one minute,

then apologizing the next. >> Yes, that is Conan. >> I am 6 ft 4 in, 193 lb of mood swing. >> [laughter]. >> All right, three more questions. >> Yes. >> Does Conan ever try to control what you. do, who you see, or how you spend your. time? >> Yes, absolutely. 100%. Yes, yes. >> Does he ever get jealous or possessive? >> Yes, when I was working for you, I. wouldn't say jealous or possessive, but. you'd be like, I am I should be the. number one priority in your life. Things. like that, before I had kids, of course. >> I still think I should be the number one.

priority. They're just. kids. You can always get other ones. >> he called them Rubin Tug in the belly, cuz you were angry that they were. existing. >> Yeah, you started They were growing. inside you and I was enraged. >> I think he said that to Shaq. >> You did. [laughter]. Yeah. >> What did I say to Shaq? >> I think when you were talking to Shaq, you really you said how you wanted to. call Sona's kids Rubin Tug. >> And Shaq And Shaq liked it. >> agreed. >> [laughter]. >> Do you remember his his suggestions for. names were Mark and Marco? They were the same name.

>> Yeah. But he did say he'd do an Icy Hot. commercial. >> [laughter]. >> He'd do one and he'd give the proceeds. for their college fund. Nice. So, okay. >> All right, last question. Does Conan. ever put you down, call you names, or. criticize you? >> Oh my god. Yes. >> I don't understand A bunch of these. questions, I feel like they know me when. they read them. >> This is from like a university website, too. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay, so now I need to tally these up. >> you be tallying, I'll be tallying. >> I want everyone. to take this test. >> You be tallying uh while Sona and I.

talk. Um. you know, I think I don't know what I. think this is going to go poorly for me, this [laughter] test. That's my uh you. know, I It's one of those things where I. don't even need the driving instructor. to tell me because there's a postman on. my windshield bleeding out. So, I need. to be told that this test didn't go. well. I know that. But, >> [laughter]. >> the facts remain. I love you. I care. about you. You're a very important. person in my life. I'm very proud of. you. But, um my out my behavior towards you is. completely insane. >> Uh abhorrent. Yeah, abhorrent.

>> it's everybody. I mean, what if Blay got. the question, does he ever beat you or. take you? >> because of his size and strength, I am. allowed to actually hit. >> Yeah. >> It's Blay, and like maybe now it's down. to cuz peop- people that write for me, a. lot of them can't handle it. >> It used to be Michael Coleman was the. main. >> Michael Coleman, terrific terrific. writer. Matt O'Brien is still. and no relation, um. but Matt O'Brien, yeah, I will I will. pummel him. And if I see if I just saw, you know, um a caution sign on the side.

of the road, I would pull it out of the. ground and be beating him with the iron. sign. And that's and that's my way of showing. love. >> That's true. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> I'm more worried the days you don't hit. me. >> I know. I think that's. >> the thing. If you did like respect me. and didn't make fun of me, and I'd be. I'd be like, we need to get him to a. hospital. >> Yeah. >> I remember the first time you made fun. of me, Sona pulled me aside and was just. like, just so you know, that's that's a. really good thing. >> Yeah. [laughter] You want that. You want. that. This is how it works in abusive. relationships.

>> You've made it, David. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> All right, do you want the result? >> Yeah. Let's hear it. >> You guys scored. 24. >> out of. >> It just says 30 plus. Um you are most likely in AN ABUSIVE. RELATIONSHIP. [laughter]. >> WELL, I COULD HAVE TOLD YOU. I COULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT. >> This isn't meant to name your experience. and just hopes to serve [laughter] as an. opportunity to connect you with people. who can help you. >> [laughter].

>> If you feel unsafe with this person. >> [laughter]. >> uh help is available. >> Yeah. Um, I love that first of all, this is just. between us. This will never go out to. the larger world. And oh, are these. microphones? >> Yeah, they are. They are. They are. cameras. >> And cameras. Uh, yeah, that's uh, yes. Well, there. you have it. >> There you have [laughter] it. >> And I don't dispute any of that. And I. would have The first question should. have been, is Sona in an abusive. relationship with you? And I would have. said, oh, yeah. It could have been done.

in one question. >> question should have been, do you work. FOR CONAN O'BRIEN? >> [laughter]. >> A TRUE MONSTER. A TRUE MONSTER. But I. meant what I said. I I love you. I I. care about you. I don't hit you. Um, you know, I I I bat at food out of. your hands. And I will, if you have your. hair up in a top knot, I will knock it. loose so it cascades down. >> Um, uh, but. >> Yeah. >> uh, physical stuff, uh, you know, I I make sure that it's.

someone like Blair who can really take. it. >> Yeah. That's true. >> you're freedom you're free to make it. stop at any time. Maybe. We'll see. >> I think yeah. I think it's an it's an. honor. I don't know how you feel. >> Well, Blair, you can say, you know. >> I love [clears throat] I love getting a. abused by you. I don't know what that. says about me. >> wish they could get hit by Conan. >> you're you're this is the best job I've. ever had. I'm not going anywhere. >> I I I honestly think it's great. It's. like brothers. It's like it's like we're. siblings. >> grew up all I did was.

my brothers and I would fight would be. fake fighting, but it was a lot of. um So, that There's ways in which my. many ways in which my development was. arrested, if you will. >> I think we're all substitutes for your. siblings. And that's, you know, we're. all paying the price. >> And they're still paying the price, too. >> [laughter]. >> You think I moved on from them? I just. got more. >> [laughter]. >> All right. Well, David, this was a. really good idea. Thank you.