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Trisha, uh, uh, I'm just curious. So, what do you do? Uh, I I know you're a. you're a mom. You've got kids. What. other things are you interested in? Yeah, I work I work remotely as an. investigative crime reporter. I cover. cold cases. Oh my god. In Minnesota. That's fantastic. And the Dakotas. I'm. fascinated by this. Uh, I'm fascinated. by murder. I think you're a big murder. buff. I like murder. Hey. Hey, guys. I. like murder, too. Hey. All right, girls. No, I like murder so much that I uh I'm.
I would either like to murder or be. murdered. I'm up for either one. It. doesn't matter. Yeah, I probably. shouldn't put that out there though. That's a bad thing. Too late. Too late. Oh, yeah. You're going to They'll replay. that if something happens to me with an. echo. I will say I got dips. Okay. Yeah, you get I'll give you first crack. Okay. Um so, you're an investigative crime. reporter and your focus is cold cases. I. love it. I love these stories. How far. back do you go with a cold case usually? Yeah. So, the 1970s has kind of become.
my sweet spot, which is weird cuz I was. born in the 80s. Good area. But it was a. really It was a I mean, it was a decade. of mayhem. You know, I often think. serial killers were on. Yeah. I like. sometimes, you know, cuz there's there. are channels for music that just focus. on, you know, like it's the ' 60s. channel, it's the 50s channel. Like. Sirius XM does that. The 70s one. It. says '7s decade of mayhem, but then they just play the Eagles. And.
I think yes, it was a time for killing. Um, here's the thing. I think there were. the what's intriguing about the 70s is. that they didn't have the DNA technology. yet. And so people would just go missing. and there wasn't a lot you could do. about it. And so to me it it feels like. a a time of mystery when there are. probably a lot of cold cases. Right. Yeah. Exactly. I mean and a lot of times. too people just they were considered to.
be runaways because like you said there. was no DNA technology and especially if. it was a young woman it was just oh well. she went off you know hitchhiking to San. Francisco. be hitchhiking. Sorry. what what did you say hitchhiking? Yeah, that felt like the that felt like the. right time to drop in a joke. This. woman's trying to solve cold murder. case. These are these are young women. that went missing and you decide here's. my joke opportunity. All I'm saying is. be hitchhiking. Um Trisha, I'd.
like to apologize cuz I think what. you're doing is valuable. And if you. find someone, these people are in agony. because they're wondering what happened. to their loved one. Sorry, Sona. I would. like Oh, yeah. You care. I would like to. at least thank you for giving us the. title of this episode. I was going to. say be hitching. be. hitching. See, that would have been. cool. It didn't roll off the tongue when. I said hitchhiking. That's why I. stumbled a lot. That was really why I. was upset. It wasn't that it was.
insensitive. be hitching. Um, got it. So, have you had success with. this? I'll wait for the laughter to stop and. then say, "Have you had success finding. the bodies of lost women in the 70s?". Jesus Christ. Yeah, we have. Actually, we've moved um well, we've moved at. least two cases forward. Uh one case, a. gal from 1974, Belinda. Uh she went. missing and you know, still hasn't been.
found, but there is a main suspect. Oh, and. we've reopened her case and so we could. be getting answers. Okay, let's talk. about because I'd like to help crack. this case. Uh, the main suspect, have. you spoken with the main suspect? Is the. main suspect still alive? Yeah, he's. still alive. I have. I met with him for. for an hour. He's at uh a secure. facility in northern Minnesota for. dangerous sexual offenders. Oh, Jesus.
Yeah. Okay. And you went there? I mean, that's a creepy place to visit. Um, was. it the kind of situation where he's. behind a screen and or or a clear. plastic and you pick up the phone and he. picks up the phone? No. I wish I wish. that were the case, but no. So, you. know, when those It's disappointing. I. love it when they pick up the phone and. then they pick up the phone. I want him. to be in a little mask and he's on a. dolly in a straight jacket. You know, you talk to a guy who may have murdered. someone in the 70s and you're like, "What phone did you use?" Well, I just.
How did you communicate? I just love it. It's always the same thing. One person. picks up the phone and then points to it. and the other person then begrudgingly. picks up the phone as if it's not clear. to pick up the phone, right? I. mean, how else are you going to talk? They always pick it up and point at it. I've seen that in 10,000 movies and I'm. not wrong. It's true. Yeah. Um, that's a. good point. Yeah. Um, now I'm thinking about, and this is. wrong, but now I'm thinking about when.
people visited serial killers at like. 190, 1910, 1911, that one person picks up a. candlestick phone and points to the. other side of the window and the other. person picks up the candlestick phone. and they're like, "Hello, hello.". Look, I didn't do it. See, I didn't do. it. See? And they have to still go. through an operator. She had it coming. be hitching. Yeah, I want. wriggly 5025. Enid, can you put me through? be. hitching. Hold on, please. Zing, zing,
zing, zing, zing. Okay, you know what, Trisha, you don't deserve this. This is. awful. This is so stupid. I hate us and. all three of us are going to hell. And I. hope soon. I hope you go we go before we. die just so we can check it out. But. Trisha, this is Let's Can I pull this. thing together? I know I can do it. What. you're doing is very cool and valuable. And you talk to this person and tell me. what it was like to look into the eye. Do you think this person did it? I mean, I have to I'm not supposed to say, but.
yeah, I do think he did. You showed a. lot of restraint there, Trisha. Well, I'm not. Yes. Total murderer. So, you look in this. person's eyes. Did this person have. remorse, do you think? Well, no. So, he. and I had been writing letters for quite. a while. Um, and so that's how I got. into this. This is I was going to say I. was going to say they were pen pals. before any of this came up. By the way,
what are your hobbies? Killing in the. 70s. Hey, maybe I could come by. Do they. have a phone there and a plastic. divider? I'll pick it up, but you don't. pick it up right away. And then I'll. point to my phone. Trisha, I'm sorry. We're going to get it back. We're going. to get it back. You know what? Can I. just say this is Trisha's fault for. calling us? Yeah, there are so many. legitimate places to call. Actually, could you pick up the phone? Also, I. said for calling us. She's on a Zoom. I'm sorry. Trisha, I will rein this in.
I promise you. You started writing back. and forth and then you decided to go. What made you want to go and meet with. this alleged or possible killer in. person? So at that point um we knew I'd. been working with Belinda's family and. we knew that he had been named the main. suspect and so we had obtained his. police files from he had three women who. escaped from him. Oh god. And yeah, I.
mean like really bad stuff like he. abducted them at gunpoint and knife. point and had a kill bag and and all. three of these women lived to tell what. happened to them. And so, yeah, I think. it was more so out of obviously for the. story because, you know, writing a. story, writing a series about Belinda, it, you know, it was only natural to. want to go and ask him some questions. Yep. Yep. So, I mean, that's why I went. there, not for kicks, but you know, no, you're you're a crime reporter. This is.
despite everything we've done in this. podcast, this is a real thing you're. doing, and it's very it's invaluable. And uh and these are real victims. And I. I cannot believe I'm transitioning us. out of that laughing fit, but I have to. And I hope that everyone uh listening. understands that we're we're three. sociopaths. I was going to say though, to make you. guys feel better, um like I laugh with.
the families all the time. Like I feel. like people have to have some sort of a. dark sense of humor. So I think it I. think it's all right.
