Conan, Sona, & Matt Discuss The Los Angeles Wildfires | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

hello welcome to con O'Brien needs a. friend it is a. massive understatement to say this is uh. a special episode or a unique. episode um we. are uh doing this episode without any. guest uh this is the first time we've. open together since the wildfires uh. broke out and there's a lot to discuss. and to process uh we don't usually do.

this uh but I'm just going to say the. date it's Thursday January 16th. 2025 fires broke out I believe it was uh. a week and two days ago right it was. Tuesday night Tuesday I think it started. Tuesday afternoon and then got worse and. worse and worse throughout the day and. we've all had our own experiences but. really we have to start by acknowledging. that Sona you lost your house yeah and.

there you know I thought I would last. longer before I started crying sorry. well well listen I this is the I really. thought I was like keep it together well. you don't have to keep it together you. don't have to keep it together um uh. there's you know you and I have uh. texted a lot and talked some on the. phone but words just seem so stupid when. somebody lost their home so um.

it's not stupid it means a lot when you. check in and just everybody texting I. haven't been been able to even respond. there's people who've texted that I. haven't even talked to in. years it it it feels really good at a. time like this to feel like people are. thinking about you yeah um so it's nice. so. don't let's lead with uh let's lead with. um Tac your husband your uh is is and. and your boys boik and.

uh what do Mikey and Charlie know do. they know anything they don't have a. clue about what's going on they think. they think we we told them we you know. there's always this like oh you should. be honest with your kids and tell them. and we're like no we're just not going. to tell them that their house burned. down I think that that's probably the. for us the right thing to do I I gave. them emails when they were babies so I. emailed their future selves and I said. this is what happened to this house that.

you were born you came into when you. were first born in the first three year. and a half years of your life but they. think we're just living somewhere else. until we build a house and they're. really into construction so like Mikey's. like I'll drive the cement mixer and. Charlie can drive the excavator and it's. like you're not going to build it and so. they're not going to find out about. their new the old house toer 18 I get. the email so well I don't know about 18. how old are they now they're three and a. half they're three and a half and. they're honestly ly we're living with my.

parents right now they're getting toys. every day I don't think they've ever. been. happier cuz people are just everyone's. saying oh my God the boys the boys the. poor boys and they're just they just. know I mean I used to think this way. about snowstorms when I was a kid I was. just good news and the the people it. didn't matter what happened to anyone. else if school was cancelled so in their. perspective all they know is there's. going to be some fun construction and. they get to build the house.

yeah yeah which I think you should let. them do okay well they can get licensed. and I don't think they can I think they. can but can I ask and again I'm not I. just how these things unfold is such a. mystery I know that for all of us I was. here working on Tuesday we weren't. podcasting but I was meeting with. writers and we were talking about the. Oscars and we were working on that with. that team and I got a phone call from my.

wife saying well there's some smoke and. I remember thinking well we've been. through this before we've been evacuated. there's also been smoke and we haven't. been evacuated so there's very much it's. part of life in La so I wasn't thinking. that much about it and then the next. thing I know she was like we've been. evacuated and so um I went from here to. you know whatever we went to a. hotel and I I went to sleep that night. thinking cuz we live in the Palisades.

and I just remembered thinking I'm. pretty sure that our house will go and. it did. not um but just the number of people. I've heard from people I know personally. who lost houses is stunning yeah it's. it's a it's crazy and uh I know you're. in Altadena and it must be the same. thing where it's not just you you must. know so many people it's our entire.

Street our whole neighborhood has just. been just just destroyed it looks I it's. hard for me to look at pictures it looks. really almost apocalyptic there's just. nothing there and we've been talking to. all our neighbors everyone's. okay um but it is you know we we really. loved that community and it's yeah it's. really sad that it's all gone yeah um I.

think that's the thing too is that. you're you're really sad for other. people who also lost their houses and so. you just you all kind of like. commiserate together I'm on a group with. like 70 other people from Altadena on a. WhatsApp group and we're all talking. about what the next steps are so that's. keeping us busy but you're right it's. just the number of people I know who. lost their homes is I mean it's like. it's just Unthinkable it's it's it's. crazy but thankfully we everybody that.

we reached out to is safe somewhere so. that's that's important but it. is oh it sucks is there anything that. you're doing now that at least helps you. feel like you can take steps like I. don't what the process of we've been. I've been locked out of we've been no. one gets close to our neighborhood I. don't know when we'll get back to our. neighborhood um but you've got this. other consideration of okay what are the. steps involved meaning yeah do you uh.

with insurance claims things like that. what we we put in an insurance claim. it's all this stuff and people are. sending us so much stuff about property. taxes about you know what you could do. with your mortgage payments about. signing up for FEMA signing up for this. signing up for that and it's I think I. just I want my kids to go back to their. school which is fine the school's okay. yeah tax back at work I'm back I I want. like normaly and then we'll probably end. up having to rent a house for a while.

and then you know figuring it out you. it's just there's like a thousand. questions it's crazy how many yeah and. you can't process it all at once no you. can't and that's the thing it's just. there's so much to do and you know I. don't like doing anything and now I have. to like fill out forms right and I have. to think about things especially in the. state you're in I can't imagine having. to do that stuff that's already awful. but sometimes is that helpful to engage. like okay this is a tangible thing I can.

do that gets us to The Next Step rather. than just sit and think about. perseverate worry about what's happened. it's just so much stuff to think I don't. I. mean also I realized I'm not good Under. Pressure we saw the Flames from The. Ridge near our house and we we and I we. had a friend who's whose husband works. in the lafd and she's like you should. probably just evacuate and then but. everything was moving East and we're. West and then all of a sudden it 330. when we were at my mom's house there was.

an evacuation order for our our area and. then my alarm company called around 6. and they're like the sensors in the. living room and in the master are. picking up movement and I thought oh is. that can you tell if it's a person or. what is it and she's like we can't tell. and I I I asked her I was like are they. flames and she didn't know and then we. just I hung up and I was like I think my. house is currently on fire and it was it.

I was just sitting in my car just like. sobbing and I was like oh my God my my. house is on just on fire and then my. parents house got evacuated and so Tac. and I were like I and I like grabbed. Charlie and Mikey out of the bed and I. just put him in and I'm like let's just. drive south I don't know where we're. going so we went to Orange County and we. just stayed there through Sunday and we. made the boys think we were on vacation. and so we were like you sent me this. great video of them on the beach yeah. just having a wonderful time your boys.

having a blast yeah they're just totally. clueless which is nice it's nice to be. around them cuz they have no idea what's. going on and I think we're we're one of. five families in their school that all. lost their homes so you know it's going. to be interesting for them to go back to. school and I I hope people don't treat. them any different you know we want to. just sort of keep things the same I just. want to fast forward to 6 months from. now where like I look back on all the. stuff and I'm like uh it's okay it's all.

just stuff and then you know but can I. ask did you have a chance be before you. left your house did you have a chance to. get anything I took some stuff I took. like the very important like family. heirloom jewelry I took my grandma's ice. bucket which is like it's not just it's. you can get it on eBay it's not like. it's not a special ice bucket but I went. back in and got my. Crocs one of them I got one of my Crocs. of them we got I really like the left.

Croc but you got some heirlooms we got. some heirlooms but there's a lot of. things I think about that are gone and. that makes me really sad I had a the. personalized Kobe autograph picture. that's gone that's right he was on uh. our Tonight Show yeah and I remembered I. introduced you to him and said this is. your number one fan and he was so nice. to you he was really nice and he he. signed an autograph for me and my. brother and then uh when we went met. Jimmy Carter and he signed the photo I.

had that one that's gone there's just a. lot of little things that are nothing I. can't live without but I I don't want I. I just I really miss that stuff and it's. and also it's weird when we were in. Orange County we like packed up our. stuff and we're like everything we own. is just in our car right now and that's. a very weird thing to think about that. like all of your possessions everything. that is something that you you you've. accumulated over the last 40 years. they're all gone and all you have left.

is whatever is in this van and it's just. it's just really sad I think too there's. a a mantra everyone has now which is. correct which is oh it's just stuff and. as long as we're okay and as long as my. family's okay and that's true but you. also have to acknowledge it's a loss oh. it's a loss because there it's not so. much the stuff itself it's what it. signifies it's the memories and um you. have to process that you can't skip over.

you know we're all okay you can't skip. right to that and stay there because um. you are going to feel all these things I. know and it it it's weird it does feel. like you're kind of grieving and you. realize like I mean I wish I took like I. had a bin full of the boys like first. three years like little things that I. wanted to keep forever and that's gone. um but you know and then you're like. holding out oh maybe we'll go back and. like we'll find things that we like in. the rubble of whatever's left and we'll. just like find something and just be. really happy that thing still exists so.

we're we're also waiting when we can go. back I mean the National Guard is. everywhere and so we can't go to our. house and you know the air quality sucks. and everything's just ash but you know I. think and the fires are still burning. that's the crazy part 55% contained. eaten in what Palisades is 22% or. something as of today yeah contained. that's it yeah the thing is and this is. I was telling telling BL about this.

yesterday me and Erica Brown went. shopping and like the third because I. need a whole new I need all new things. everything new and we went and uh it. kind of like was brought up when I was. checking out somewhere that my house was. gone and she's like oh we give a 20%. discount to victims of the fire and me. and Erica were like we have to call all. the stores we just went to just be like. do you give it 20% discount but then. it's awkward cuz you go to a store and. you're just like uh my my house burned.

down also do you need to do they want. you to prove that yeah how do you do. that I have a piece of roof I keep in my. wallet I mean I don't know what the hell. they're talking. about well then sometimes but also it's. like an awkward thing to bring up it's. like Hi how are you doing it's like uh. uh my house burned down do I get a. discount yeah usually it's like you get. a free birthday meal at Denny's and you. just show your ID. I know and then Erica was like stop.

saying your house burned down say you. were displaced by the fires she just. wanted me to use a different wording no. I think burn down gets you the. discount I mean I've been displaced and. I do not deserve a 20% discount can you. imagine me going around ah I've been. displaced I have to live in a pretty. nice hotel and so I. demand they 20%. off sir this is a frozen yogurt. establish.

M sir you're buying a. Rolex I don't want to pay full price and. it's pck Philip to you. sir no it's it's it's it's just absolute. craziness it's just nuts did. just like go around just being like hi. uh so the other stores are giving. discounts like can I get a discount here. when my house burned down and at first. it was like you know it's hard to say oh. my house burned down I would cry every. single time and then I just like got to.

a point where I was like hi uh my house. burnt. down what kind of discounts you got for. me yeah you'll be doing what if you're. doing that 5 years from now when you. live in a beautiful new home and you're. thriving and you've written like your. third best-selling book and you pull up. in a you know in a like a you pull up in. a BM W hey house burned down H I'm. getting some unleaded gas. and looking at the price what to SN 20.

off that when did your house burn five. years. ago oh I also won the lottery last week. oh my God no but it's. um man it's uh it's it's it's been very. hard to process I well I'm going to. switch to you for a minute gorle. because I know that you were in there. was a while there where I was pretty. certain oh Pasadena I don't think that. looks good and I know your house I I.

just thought is this going to get you. too and I guess you it it it didn't get. to you the fire is that right no we were. very lucky we got really close to the. Evac warning Zone and it was heading. down the a royal so we did pack and. leave but we that's all I mean we just. we were are you back in your house now I. am the girls are still down at Momo in. Long Beach where the air is clean I know. because that's the other thing is this. talk about the air quality index being. okay but that doesn't account for. certain leads and as bestest toxins in.

the air and stuff so I don't know I wear. a mask outside my house even though it's. blue skies and there's Ash and. everything but it's just weird did you. guys did you guys pack and I couldn't I. was here uh I was you couldn't be. bothered I was yeah I couldn't be. bothered um I was like don't I have. people to do these things for no I got a. call from Liza my wife at work and she. said uh okay they told us we got to go. and I said okay she said I'm just going. to. grab um like two T-shirts two pairs of.

socks two pairs of under whatever a pair. of jeans I said great she said do you. need me to take anything else and I said. just grab the eie white letter Off the. Wall which is this letter that I when I. was uh 16 I wrote eie White a letter. about how much I admired his writing and. how I aspired to try and make something. of myself but I was afraid of criticism. because I'm thin-skinned and he wrote me. back this beautiful note and it signed. EB and says PS if a fire happens take.

this take this. yeah I said grab that but I didn't think. about anything else. uh um and I I don't know why I get into. and I think I've always been this way I. think I was you know uh I can. Channel when I first moved out to LA and. I had a had a on Cochran Avenue had a. $380 a month apartment and a 197 7 Isuzu. opal that I bought at the airport for no.

money um and I just always Channel like. yep I've been there before and I was. really happy and I just have this kind. of uh if I if that whatever if whatever. something happens I'm not going to get. another Isuzu. op I'm get to that height again. I'm but uh but very um I don't know I. get it on almost uh very calm about that.

and the material world and things like. that but then I also know if the reality. came there's my perception of how I. would feel and then um how would I. really feel if that had happened and we. got really close I mean it was right up. to our line of our house and um and then. you just I don't know uh I could easily. be here saying we don't have our house. and like I say a lot I've spoken to many. of my friends who lost their home. and uh so I don't know you can't know.

how you would feel if that happened so I. have you know the possible illusion that. I would say well it's just stuff but no. I'm sure I would be uh devastated and. emotional for a lot of reasons but um. it's just uh it's such a confusing time. and obviously it's. just um what can we all do for people if. only I knew someone who had lost their.

oh right you were mentioning no but like. I'm saying is what what you know that's. the question is how can what can we do. for you you know you're loved you've got. all of us here I'm money aside oh and um. money and I need money money and food I. need lots can I live in your house can. we all come live in your house can I. just say the parameters first money. aside food aside clothing aside oh love. and affection affection aside um.

Sheltering you in any way at any one of. my 19 Mansions scattered any further. contact aside yeah uh is there anything. I can do for you and also I'm letting. you go oh no is this a bad time no bad. time I mean you might as well pull off. the bandaid here's what I'm saying the. bandaid mostly torn off let's go the. rest of the way I need this I know I'm. like am I my I had to make a decision. you were Gorly and he does so much in. for you for so long yeah.

but con and fire Sona on podcast where. she talks about losing her home I'm. looking forward to that headline know oh. I am really glad your house is cuz the. Palisades is also very very scary and I. really was worried you were going to. lose it and I know you're not attached. to the things in you're like you're. saying you are I'm very attached to the. things in your house. and I think also if you lost yours it.

would overshadow mine a lot so in a way. I'm like just really happy that you're. okay I'm going to have mine destroyed it. makes you feel better this is the. ultimate I get to talk last thing that. you guys did you know you get the last. oh so you say you lost your house did. you well guess what oh my. God my leg kind of hurts so I think I. win um well uh it's it's funny cuz. people I think I hope it comes through.

but this is a real relationship yeah um. you and I have been I mean Gorly I don't. barely know the guy I mean I wouldn't. even say that about myself Johnny come. lately uh icy to the touch um but well. if you just touch me once maybe you'd. know dad keep rubbing that. icicle but uh you know you've got us and. uh and we will all help you in any way. we can thank you and I do think that.

this is there's no way to fast forward. through this it's going to be a. day-to-day thing for you for quite a. while I do I do want I know we talked. about aladen a lot and we we joked about. it a lot but it was it is a really. special place it was an incredible place. to raise my kids and I just I hope I. hope we find a way to get back there. even after all this I just um no I've. lived in my whole life and I was just.

that's the happiest I've ever been right. so I just want to make sure people know. it's it's a really incredible place it's. an incredible Community the people there. are just amazing the way that also Los. Angeles is just banded together is yes. as someone who is from here and girls I. know you're from here too it's really. inspiring it's beautiful it's um it's. uplifting there's just little bright. spots in in all of this shittiness and. you know the way the city so many people.

have risen to the challenge and been uh. remarkably generous and human and I. lived in New York during 9/11 and I'm. seeing the same thing again where people. ask each other you know how are you. doing how are you where do you live are. you okay and had that conversation this. morning at brickson scones which is the. coffee place right next to us just you. just start asking people how are you. where do you live are you all right are. you okay. and these things do bring sometimes the.

worst out of people but often the best. out of people and I was remembering we. you know the last time we did our. outdoor chill Chums podcast was from. sona's backyard in alad Dina which is a. really nice memory and what I remember. most is uh what a great time we had but. also that your neighbors came by you had. Neighbors coming by to say hi Austin. yeah and um. uh.

and it uh there's a Vibrant Community. there that I I think is resilient and. can come back yeah I mean that's it's. easy for me to say but I I do think. there's I think there's such a will to. bring that City back it's not just a. faceless City yeah you've seen so many. people talk about how much they love. Altadena and I think that they are the. city so the houses may be gone but. they'll bring them back and they'll keep. the city when now I heard you lost your. house I just felt like desperate to do.

something for you it's so hard to know. how much to offer to people in this. situation because you feel some they. must be bombarded with this are they. being overloaded but anything you would. ever need I think people all your. friends would be desperate to help you. guys in any way you know um you know. what I am going to we we're really lucky. we our family is here they're all in La. we had no shortage of place to go which. is very uh we're very fortunate for that.

there's a lot of people who don't have. anything and don't have any connections. and I think before people think about. sending stuff to us um I think you. should definitely look into people who. really need it like I the boys have more. underwear than they've ever had before. they've had they have more socks I can't. stress how many toys they have now they. I think they just think that that's. their life now every day a package comes. and there's more toys and they're just. like this is the best we're living at.

Yaya's house they're like just eating. she's feeding them constantly they're. eating they're having more screen time. and watching more TV than they ever have. before like so they're they're happy. we're we're happy if they're happy so. we're we're okay I mean is there I mean. that's the other thing too is we could. find out and plug it in but if there's a. a charity or there's a place that makes. sense one thing I found that's been very. helpful is there's a database of the. least fun did gofundmes for individual.

families and so you can find people that. my wife my wife has been on to this and. uh I shut it down cuz I I was like I was. thinking of taking up Golf and I want to. buy those go no oh my God I like a guy. who do colors are showing I wonder what. are you doing are you donating money to. people that really need it I set the. clock the minute this happened of like. how it's possible I could one day play. golf it which time clubs would need to. be procured. um no she.

uh she found that and it's amazing. findable I think well. obviously it can get sensitive what's. the right where's the right place to to. give money if you can give money or to. donate um and we need to be sensitive. about that we will do research we'll. maybe in the links that connect to this. episode give some suggestions uh but. there are so many different ways. uh oh what happened links that connect.

to this episode it's just it's cute it's. cute it's it's just in it's going to be. in the summary of the episode also links. our connections to the episode so just. it's okay it's okay it's not your fault. fine it's not your fault this is a. different episode it's okay it's fine we. should have given you a script anytime. links are mentioned we should just tell. you exactly how to say it and that's on. us. I think the burn I just suffered oh my.

God is every bit as bad oh well there'll. be as the one that attacked your home. there'll be links connected to the this. episode to donate to Conan if you want. to I I think now after the way I was. just attacked for okay maybe am I fluent. in this new techno World. new of the last 40 years maybe not. Techno World but I've now been. humiliated and I feel I deserve.

compensation you have a GoFundMe I have. a. GoFundMe to help me Cen O'Brien recover. from this dastardly. blow um I know the minute I start. talking why do I why didn't I what am I. going to learn let you do it or let you. do it because when I try and do it it's. you're doing a really great job you're. talking to me like something like I'm. damaging so good look at you and then we. threw the word Link in there and that.

this just got you all frazzled that's. okay when this episode comes through. through your machine oh no and you're. tuning it to get the right frequency. look for a linkage just try this charity. links in the show notes charity links in. the show notes yeah yeah but I know you. and it's the right thing to do you're. going to keep all of my blundering and. stumbling in there you're not going to. edit it so I look good and I applaud you. for that cuz it's going to make a lot of. people very that's what keeps this show. and can I say something I cannot tell.

you how many people go are you really. that. bad and I say it's not a bit I honestly. don't know how this this world Works. they that is a common thing people say. to me is no just just tell me something. is that they want to know if Jordan. schlansky is real and I go yeah he. really is and they go and when you talk. about like Tech stuff are you really. that bad you may be the most like. pressed technological person on a.

podcast which is fairly technically. advaned well that's why I surround. myself with people who know I love that. your son is very so fluent in it it's. almost like God played a joke on you. yeah my son is very gifted at these. things and uh I he enjoys it so much. when I'm trying to do something I do. become it is Zoolander where they're. looking at the computer and he just. enjoys it and he won't jump in and go.

here I'll do it he'll go so uh so what. you're trying to do there what you doing. like well I'm trying to see if I can. clear this screen uhhuh yeah so is that. why you're hitting the the plastic part. the cover just tell me what to do no no. no you why don't you tell me what it is. you're trying to do so he just tortures. me he's a genius at it he's God yeah. there is God gave him a wonderfully. foolish father for him to enjoy and but. um is your your greater family then we.

talk about this a lot and we joke about. it a lot how connected you are to your. family and your mom and dad but it's. also this great gift right now yeah that. that you have these people in your life. that they're so close you know I've been. living so far away from my family for so. long yeah that your family is unit is. there it is there it's. also look I love I love my parents but. the moment I step into that house I'm a.

16-year-old angsty teenager and this. time I'm coming with like my kids and my. husband but I'm still like everything my. mom says I'm. like and I've been there for only like. what like four days we've been there and. I'm just like I can't I can't with she's. cooking a meal for us from scratch you. know and I'm just kind of like Mom. you're just you don't get it Mom it's so. much of me just being a kid again you. become a. I have I've become an a little.

bit and I think that that's uh not. healthy for anybody so I don't know how. long we're going to last when am I. allowed and and I will respect this oh. no but when am I allowed to start making. jokes about your dad's mustache oh God. I'm just curious I mean and I will. respect if you say it's going to be. three months or four months and I love. your dad I love G this is your. opportunity to say like 10 years I know. but when when we were like texting a. part of me was like well my D you know. my dad can build a house cuz he's good. with wood cuz he's he he carv he carved.

your your brother cuz he wanted a boy a. real boy and then he became. real why do I indulge you no but I don't. what's wrong with me I thought it like. do it my true sickness is getting other. people to start to do the bit themselves. about them I know that's my true evil. power comedic Stockholm syndrome yes you. you know there you know you don't if. even if I said oh you know what I'd. rather you just did it yeah um I think. you would last right but your father's.

mustache wasn't damaged okay you know. what I think we got to wrap it up we got. to wrap it up it's his mustache. ured what WR I don't know I don't know. it's just a must do you realize how. happy I'd be if he shaved off half of it. and went around saying I lost half in. the. fire I want 20% off and just put a. little smudge there I can't get the disc. count why not cuz he didn't lose it it.

just it's inconvenience they don't know. that they see a guy come in with half a. mustache what do they know who's going. to challenge that I challenge you that. looks freshly shaved not singed I don't. think anyone challenges that look maybe. I've gone too far it's possible that I'm. doing the exact wrong thing at this. moment than that I'll pay for it. terribly but I'm just glad he's okay oh. thanks thanks so much for your concern.

you're so nice uh gift yes uh how's Tac. specifically T T's fine I don't know if. it's this like stoic Soviet thing but. he's like all right we got to fill this. out we got to do like he's he's sad. about his guitars he lost all his. guitars but one of his friends G gave. him one which is really nice uh but you. know he he's like worried about his. random he's like worried about his. kettle bell that he got for Christmas. and he's like God I hope I find my.

kettle bell in the rubble and I'm like. your kettle bell we could just go get. that right now we can just go buy it and. am I not wrong a kettle bell is the most. likely to survive a. fire that's why he's. like surviv I hope my fireplace and iron. survive yeah my. Anvil I hope my bowling ball. survived my solid yeah well you know. what I think he is I mean he's an. incredibly cool guy T he chill he's very.

chill and he's very cool and uh I love. him I admire him and I think he's a good. partner to have in a situation like this. he is he's very worried about me and the. boys and how we're feeling and he's very. sweet and you know uh oki's fine too I. know people were probably wondering. she's fine too and she's also like. really happy cuz my dad feeds her a lot. of like people food he'll make a whole. meal just for for Oki and so she's like. just lounging the boys are dog is having.

baked. Alaska yeah Sushi I it's incredible yeah. cordon blue chicken cordon blue oh my. God so yeah Tac is Tac is tac's really. he's the he's such a great person he's. such an incredible father and husband. and he's been really good so yeah we're. very lucky we're very lucky we're I told. girls this I was like we're. the luckiest unlucky people cuz we we.

have others we can turn to when we need. to so we're handled the aftermath too. with just such humor and a plum and and. honesty too with how you're feeling it's. amazing you're you're amazing oh well. thank. [Music]. you I do think um I I know there's going. to be a point where I have to go like. see someone because I think I legit. every time I hear wind I like tense up. and it it's really nerve way I mean so. many people are going to have some form.

of PTSD or whatever you however you want. to classify it from this and so it is as. you know I'm a huge proponent of of it. and I I don't necessarily come from a. people that are were Believers in uh. talk therapy um but and I think Freud. famously said the only people who are. immune to psychotherapy are the. Irish but I but I do think it's uh. hugely helpful it would be good for you.

and also talk to us about it yeah I mean. we we are we are a people we we're we're. in yell therapy I think Armenians my my. people but we let it all out we're very. getting it out and uh and I'm lucky I. have a lot of friends who I just I you. know will talk to them or text them and. I'll just tell them exactly how I feel. and it's nice to have that Comfort to be. able to talk to people openly about it. cuz yeah it is this is probably and it's.

also good but this is probably this is. the hardest thing I've ever gone through. yep and if this is the hardest thing. I've ever gone through then I've been. lucky yeah because it's it's a you know. I can rebuild but other people have gone. through so much worse so I'm I'm lucky. in that sense. well I I'll say this I have found. today to be Cath IC for me because I've. been thinking about you a lot Sona and.

on a selfish level I thought I really. want to get into a room with Sona we've. texted we've talked on the phone but I. didn't see you until today and I've just. wanted you I've wanted to be in a room. with you and talk to you so this was. weirdly uh even though you're the one. who's really been affected much more a. million times more than I was a billion. times more uh this was really special. for me to get to talk talk to you and. tell you face to face that uh I love you.

whatever you need we'll all get you. through this um and we are a family and. I'm including oh God Gorly don't do it. I'm going to do it Adam Eduardo bla uh. we are a family and also everyone who. works here. and we there was such a lovely. outpouring and I'm not going to online. of people fans reaching out to wonder.

how we were doing that was just bowled. me over we are blessed we're blessed a. million times over with so many fans so. many people are rooting for you Sona and. thinking about you and. um you're going to get through this with. flying colors and uh I am going to. gradually work my boy back. into um mocking and harassing you it's. going to take a long time it's. it's begun it's not going to take a long. time I just no I mean when I see a long.

time I mean like many hours oh yeah. that's what I figured that's I knew I. knew I knew you were saying the last. hour doing it yeah I was going to say is. there really evidence oh right we do. record these. um can I just say also uh I'm really. really happy to come back to work CU I. think this podcast has gotten me through. it's gotten me through covid it's gotten. me through fertility treatments and it's. going to get me through this and I um I. I love being in this room and and.

talking with you guys and just I love my. my job and I'm very lucky that I get to. have it so please don't fire me well. you're really on the. line the yeah saved it today you're you. can you you're not fired. today but oh God there's this very. expensive electric bike I'm thinking of. getting with company funds God and that. would mean 's no room for. you do I need this Spike no but I kind.

of like it cuz it's a shade of cocoa. that I. find I don't know what's wrong with me. but uh love you we're back we're going. to continue to make our foolishness and. update you on on I mean what is this is. we'll update you on keep everyone. listening and and how uh how this. process unfolds for you and we're. thinking not just of you Sona but. everyone out there who's been affected.

by this and and to all the really. incredible people who from all over the. world that have reached out and been so. lovely to us we are blessed people yeah. and the firefighters yeah I mean it's. unbelievable and our our own Sarah. federovich who works here yeah has been. has been working for me for I want to. say close to 30 years if not 30 years um. her husband Brad help out there fighting.

these. fires and uh so yeah enough cannot be. said about we have a screwy value system. in our country where it's like look. there's a celebrity and never has it. looked more stupid our value system than. right now uh than when you see these. people that really do put themselves uh. in herm's way to um save people's homes. save people's lives it's AB absolutely. incredible but boy I can't wait till we. get back to.

revering S oh god look a. podcaster he's the true. hero you got that right. buddy anyway uh everybody out there stay. safe uh and uh thank you again for all. of your uh good wishes and positive. energy.