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Hi Derek. Welcome to Conan needs a fan. with special guest Darcy Carden. >> Derek, how are you? >> I'm doing well. Good to see you. >> Okay. So, you can see us. >> You can see us and we can see you. >> Oh, yeah. That's That's what I was. waiting for. >> Derek, uh, where are you calling from? >> I'm in Mountain View, California. >> Very nice. >> I've been there. >> Have you been to Mountain View? >> That's Is that where Shoreline is? Shoreline theater. there. So, you know things by theater. >> Yes. Yes. Well, I saw I saw La Palooa.

there when I was like in junior high at. the Shoreline. >> I'm confirming. >> Yeah. In like 90 freaking something. >> Oh, okay. >> At the Shoreline. Yeah. He's He's kind. of saying it like, "Oh, she's wrong.". But I'm right. [laughter]. >> Interesting. But I'm right. It used to. travel. Yeah. No, but we got off on the. wrong side. >> That's wonderful. >> Darcy, [laughter] normally I would say. No, no, no. Darcy, I would say that. pretty much anything anyone adds is. valuable. Um, this has been a diarrhea.

culde-sac. [laughter] Absolute diarrhea. Um, >> that's what I do. >> It was perfect. [laughter]. >> It was It was perfect. No notes. No. notes. >> Great. Great. Great. >> There are no mistakes. Um, except that. one. Derek, >> uh, >> I understand that you're somehow related. to the world of pinball, but I don't. know in what way. >> Yes. Well, I I I want to talk about. that. One quick thing I wanted to say is. not only am I connected to the pinball, but I am also connected to you in ways.

that I think I would just like to lay it. out there my case that of course I am a. fan, but in some universe I probably. could be a friend at some point. >> and I have three connections in. particular I just wanted to highlight. real quick. So today I was listening to. your latest or one of your latest that. Jud Appatile Returns. >> Jud Appatile, longtime collaborator of. his is Amanda Glaze went to high school. with me. So that's [clears throat] one. Okay. Um, second, I am very good friends. with Randy and Jasonclar. Two times. shown on your show, 2011, 2022. I'm. sorry, 2020. And then the third say.

something. Number three better be really. good. [laughter]. >> Really? I'm just being honest with you. >> Okay. >> Yes. Last one. >> You want to say a toffee bar? I'm. holding a chocolate bar that sometimes. is mixed with toffee. [laughter]. >> Okay. This This one got to be good. The. pressure is really. >> I think it's pretty good. I think it's. pretty good. Well, you and you can rate. it however you see fit, but in 2007, my. wife, uh, roommed with Kesha, your. friend, at Columbia University for a. summer program where my wife's. instructor, her professor for that.

program was Liza. >> OKAY, THAT'S IT. He got there. He got. >> home run. You got there. You [laughter]. got You got. >> listen. Uh, Kesha very strong because I. love Kesha. Kesha and I are She's my. spirit animal. >> And we talking to the singer [laughter]. Kesha. Yeah, she's amazing. Oh, yeah. No, Kesha is my spirit animal and we're. are good pals and I'm I I live and. breathe all things Kesha. So, that was. very strong. But then when you call out. that her professor was.

>> my wife. >> That's. >> that's nuts. And I remember that summer. Liza was pregnant that summer. >> with me. >> Yeah. With with Darcy. [laughter]. With Darcy. >> A little baby. >> Right. >> And you came out and you went gaga. goooo. and then winked right to camera. [laughter]. and you were 20. It was just really. weird. >> and you were like, I don't want her. [laughter]. >> I don't want her. >> I was like, this is the kid for me. Well, that's amazing. That's very cool. >> And um. >> Derek, >> no.

>> I'm going to get us to pinball because. someone told me a little bird. >> Beep beep beep. >> That's [laughter] what a bird says. >> Beep beep beep beep. >> beep beep. It's a robot bird. >> Oh, you should have said that then. Um, I think with [laughter] with Darcy here, we aren't gonna get to anything with. you, Derek. No, no, I love it. I absolut. This is great. >> Yes. [laughter]. >> Beep beep. I'm a bird. >> I'm half a Wish. [laughter]. >> It's all broken. >> Derek, I don't care anymore what your.

stickick is. I just. >> We're just We're just here to have a. nice conversation. Sure. [laughter] So, uh, pinball, anything? Ring a bell? Oh, yes. So, so yeah. So, pinball. Yes. I. I'm happy to share about it actually. because I have a lot to say about it and. so. >> I wouldn't think so based on how this. has gone so far. [laughter] We'll get to. pinball but first 95 things. >> the brothers once asked you on a on. Broadway. [laughter]. >> They were on their way to get a sandwich. and you had just come from the sandwich. islands. [laughter].

>> No, it was Menescino Farms. I got to be. clear about it. Okay, that's. >> really scary. >> Um but no, it Yeah. So pinball. Yeah, it's it's one of my my my great loves. So, I I I figured I would just give you. a little insight into sort of what the. competitive pinball landscape kind of. looks like. >> Well, you have an official title, do you. not? In the world of pinball. >> I do. I do. I'm one of the commissioners. of the San Francisco pinball department. It's SFB. Okay. >> So, it's so it's a little bit north of. me cuz I'm in Mountain View. San. Francisco is about, you know, 38 miles. north. Um, not to be exact, but the uh.

yeah, the pinball league, 100 people. We. all compete at this lovely print shop. that has 50 pinball machines in the. front by the name Free Gold Watch. If. you go to San Francisco in the hit. Ashbury, please go check it out. It's. wonderful. But yeah, it's a it's a match. play style of competition where you are. randomly put into like let's say if this. was our group of four. You play five. games over the course of the night. You. get points based on how you finish each. game. So if we play the first game, Conan, you get the best score, Darcy, you get the second best score, 7531. So. you accumulate those points. There's a. big finals at the end. And we actually.

have a former world champion in our. league who won the the big enchilada. back in 2013. Okay, Derek, I have some. questions that must be answered. immediately. [laughter]. One, how can one uh play pinball? Well, I mean, you're very limited because you. just have these two flippers you can. operate. >> and sometimes more. >> Oh, okay. Sometime Okay, but still, >> how does one uh become say the pinball.

wizard? Uh such a supple wrist. A. pinball wizard has to be a twist. Yes. [laughter]. >> Twist. >> I mean, because I know that that guy, even at his favorite table, he can beat. my best. >> Anyway, I'm searching for that lyric. [laughter]. >> Uh, when he was a cowboy, he once owned. a vest. >> I don't think that was okay. [laughter]. >> He thought that he was sick, so he had. that special test. Listen, Derek, I. don't think there's any time for you. today. [laughter]. >> I'm sorry. I.

>> No, I'm kidding. Uh, we're going to get. to this. How does one play pinball? Well, what what would you tell me to do? >> Well, I think the biggest thing I think. the one of one of the biggest things. that I tell people sort of, you know, to. try to break down pinball into I think. what is a key element is patience. >> And I think one of the things that a lot. of people do, you know, for for most. people it is a very random thing, right? You play pinball, you put your money in, the ball goes, it kind of goes where it. goes. You're sort of at the whim of. physics. And I will say I'll just cut in. and say I bash a lot. I'm a basher. So.

the ball gets near my flipper and I'm. just bashing away. >> That is wrong. That is not what I should. be doing. Correct. >> No. Well, not necessarily. So So and. this is something I also wanted to talk. about is, you know, a lot of people. think that you are not allowed like that. it's cheating to move the table, right? Not not um not against the rules. You. can do stuff to the table. I thought it. said tilt tilt and you were. disqualified. >> So that's the natural consequence if you. move it too much. So, you got to know, you got to know the sort of cadence of.

the game in order to, you know, move it. how you need to because sometimes the. ball's coming straight down the middle. You got to do something right. Sometimes. you got Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, there's one thing you can do is. you give that give that game a good. shake and then and then you can make it. happen. >> Shake it and it won't say tilt. >> You might if you do it too hard, but you. got to find the part of being a. professional. >> Yes. Yes. You got to you got to have. like that that finesse. Wow. Um, but. yeah, but the patience element that I. want I wanted to mention was in terms. of, you know, when the when the ball. comes to the flippers, I think it's very. and I'll I'll demonstrate here.

>> Nerveing thing in my life is that as. soon as it gets down there, you just. start going crazy. You're just you're. just trying to get the ball right back. up to the top, which is, you know, natural inclination. A lot of times the. one of the key skills I think you want. to build is what's called the dead flip. And the dead flip is essentially you. watch that ball. If you see it's coming, you let it strike that flipper without. flipping and let the natural carum of. the ball go to the other flipper and. maybe even you hold that ball. Then you. can cradle it, you know, hold it in in.

sort of stationary position or um you. know just at least get a slower shot. off. So you can control your pace of. >> you cradle the ball. >> You can cradle the ball. Yes. And then. you hold it and then you let it go. Then. you let you cradle it and then you let. it go to flip. >> and then Yeah. You fig you figure out. that sweet spot on the flipper when your. fancy terms. [laughter]. >> Well, you kind of like go do. >> and then flip. >> She's right on it. >> Yeah, but I think I do have that. patience. I think I think I could be a. part of this. >> I mean, she got free gold watch.

>> Yes. Well, there's plenty of great. leagues in LA as well. >> And also, this is something I know about. Darcy just from previous conversations. we've had. Um, that she's from the Bay. Area originally, so this would be a. natural for you to go to this place, play this game. You have the patience. I'm I'm not a patient man. [laughter]. Right. Right. >> I'm just going to say that I'm not a. patient man to know that about yourself. and I'm a rough person. I bash things. I. smash them like a gorilla. >> with a Samsonite suitcase in an ad in. 1966. That's me. [laughter] So. >> wonderful. >> Yeah. I uh that would be a problem. But.

I would be willing to manage Darcy if. you quit everything you're doing in show. business and went 24/7 hard on I would I. would sponsor you. >> You would? >> Yeah. Okay, I I would. >> but no acting, no more of your success. You say goodbye to all that because this. is the future now. There's no time for. that. >> I honestly love it. I love it's I love. pinball. >> That's an agreement. >> Okay, great. So, I'll sign right. [laughter] here. Conan O'Brien. >> I'm an attorney as well. So, this is I'm.

a witness. I witnessed it. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, so um this is fascinating. Uh is. there any cheating? Do people ever mess. with the game? Have you ever caught. someone who has infiltrated the game, maybe tweaked it in a way, >> added another ball? Oh, [laughter]. sorry. I said that like it's easy to do, but it's not easy to do that. >> I mean, that wasn't what I was thinking, but but I wasn't getting that specific, [laughter]. right? Sure. Yeah. Uh. >> well there are definitely things I'd say.

I'd say in terms of you know I guess. conduct issues that you might encounter. you know if if our officials who we have. players who act as officials during the. league nights and during the tournaments. um if they see you know basically like. bad behavior like trying to distract. players sometimes like playing in a way. that is meant to kind of like you know. pull their ey line away like kind of. stand on their side. >> Oh can I ask you a question? Is there. trash talking? >> Is there trash talk? >> There is. There is, but I I'd say, you. know, you you gotta just like any any.

area, you got to know your audience, right? So, I think I think there's. probably most of the trash talk is. between, you know, people who really are. are just playing hard and want to have. fun. Um, sometimes, yeah, if if there is. trash talk, the tournament directors. have extraordinary discretion to give. warnings or to just ban or exclude. someone from a tournament if they think. that they're just not conducive to the. environment. What would be an example of. trash of like like acceptance? >> You got a lip paddle. >> Right. Right. Right. >> But that's [laughter] okay. >> Yeah. Can you say paddle's so limp? >> Can you say you got limp paddle?

>> Do you ever say you got a limp? That's a. new one. I mean, I think I think you. could bring a lot to the the trash talk. with that. >> I'm pretty good at trash talking. But is. it [laughter] just like is it probably. no swearing, right? No F, no S, no B, no. A. Even [laughter] even god even there. I mean W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W. W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W. W W W W W W W W W W is fine, but um. [laughter]. >> but no, the the I'd say with that. there's actually a fair amount of. tolerance or at least like I've seen. people who have like really big. reactions and even then you know as long. as it's genuine sort of like it's in the.

heat of passion. It's not really. directed in sort of a really sort of. malicious way. I think that you might. get a warning just like hey just try to. keep it cool but you're not going to get. banned for that. Um, and so yeah, so I I. think you know there's there's levels to. it as with any sort of group activity. that way. Um, but in terms of the game, yeah, the adulteration of the game I'd. say is probably unlikely. There's I mean. there's maybe one one thing that. actually happens. >> You say fixing the game, you mean it's. hard to get in there and and adjust the. electronics. >> Yes. Yeah. Like or or Yeah. Like you.

would have to like especially sort of to. your to your suggestion in terms of. adding balls or something like that, that would require you to remove the. glass or unless you like drilled a hole. in the side. That's what I'm talking. about. Someone coming in the night. before, being lowered on ropes like Tom. Cruz, and then, you know, lifting the. glass off with little suction cups, and. then inserting another ball, and then. maybe some other stuff in there, trimming a wire, doing this or that that. gives you the advantage. >> Yeah. But then also, the next person. that uses, it's not your. >> It blows up after you.

>> Oh. Oh. self-destructs. Right. Right. And then you win. >> You win cuz no one else can play it. On. the subject of of of specific games, I. know there are specific games with. specific themes. >> Yes. >> Um, are there games that are thought of. as I used to work on the Simpsons, so. obviously I know there's a Simpsons. game. Is that is that game well thought. of in the community? >> Well, there's there's two. So, there's. the Simpsons Pinball Party, a much more. recent release that actually I think is. is generally very wellliked as as a. game. It's got and it's got Homer's. garage. It's got a lot of fun represent. the Montreal is there. So, you you're.

covered. >> Hey, should I get money from this? >> Yeah, I think you should. I mean, you. That's one of my episodes. >> Checking with your folks. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, my folks. >> You're getting [laughter]. Why'd you have to bring them up right. here? >> Yeah. With with with your people. >> They're dead, man. >> Um, [laughter]. >> there is an earlier Simpsons pinball. machine. So, that newer one is by Stern. Pinball, but well regarded because it's. their current manufacturer. >> Yeah. >> Was uh Data East, which is actually sort. of a predecessor. >> and it it's it's actually it's a very.

fun look. Like the artwork is great. It's, you know, it's got a lot of the. call outs of like the voices and. whatnot, but it's uh in terms of the. rule set, like as a pinball game, I. think it's generally disliked in a. competition setting because there's a. they a lot of people call it the big. stupid ramp. Like a lot of games have. the big stupid ramp and so. I is this one where Wait, you were about. to tell us about the big stupid ramp, but do does a second ball come out. occasionally on that one? >> I think you I think there's a multiball. Yeah. So, >> this is what was talking about.

multiball. rigged the game rigged it. like [laughter]. 30 years ago. >> The big stupid ramp leaves it leads it. right down the center of the the. flippers right now. >> No, it usually will return it to the uh. it's called like a lane return. So it'll. put it on your flipper so that way you. can flip it again. Yeah, usually it's. Yeah. not going to put it in too much. danger unless you miss it and it then it. rolls backwards down the ramp down the. center. >> That What about the one where it bounces. and then it goes into the one that makes. you lose. No fair, right? >> Bounces and then makes makes you lose.

Yeah. In a specific game or you just. talking about general pinball machine. What's the theme of it? Is it like. Sartra? What's the What's the theme of. the game? [laughter]. >> Right before it goes to the paddles, there's one part where it bounces and. then it can either go right. >> Terminator one that I think. >> where it finishes. to the left to the paddles. >> Derek, is there in the Simpsons one? Is. there one where I feel like I played it. and you just get so many points if you. get it in the right spot? It goes like. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Well, there is. So, actually the.

uh the nuclear power plant are the. bumpers. So, so if you get in the. bumper, it it won't be necessarily the. biggest points, but yeah, you could get. lucky and just get a lot of action. there. And that depending on the mode. you're in, this is getting deep in this. There is a whole first of all, it's. clear that everyone here was traumatized. at one point by a game. >> [laughter]. >> But the but the other thing is these are. such vibrant memories for all of us. because pinball goes back to I mean goes. back forever but it's been around my. entire life.

>> And uh so I we've all had similar. experiences where it comes right down. the middle. It's out of the reach of. both flippers and there's nothing you. can do. >> So heartbreaking. though there is something you can do. >> Not if it's going right down the middle. tilt the table. >> or like maybe bump it with your body. Yeah. Well, you can you can I mean that. as long it me. >> but I mean the one the one okay so the. two things I'll say one is you might. tilt it right so and that the natural. penalty is you lose your ball so then it. goes on to the next one but then the.

other potential issue is that there's an. operator who actually owns the machine. and if they see you the game too much. they might ask you to leave that. establishment. >> yeah but I tend to do that when he's got. his head towards near the oven you know. he's [laughter]. shoveling a pie in that's the best time. to tilt. >> because he's dealing Got that blast of. flame. >> in the oven. >> Yeah. >> Tilt. Freaking. >> What's he doing? He's feeding it in. right now. Tilt. >> Oh, no. He's committing suicide. [laughter]. >> Better for me.

>> Tilt all night. >> Yeah. >> All right. Sorry. >> No. Don't. You never apologize for being. you, Darcy. Never apologize for being. you. >> No, it was good. >> Um, this is incredible. you've taught us. so much about pinball and uh what is. what is your favorite game of all time? Is there one themed pinball game that's. like the holy grail for you? >> So, so I guess I guess let me let me. answer that in two ways. One is that I. actually have a favorite game for. competition play and a favorite game. that I own. And so for competition play,

there's actually a very old game. It's. from I think the mid60s. It's called. Royal Flesh. And it is a game where. basically the main the main thing is. there's these uh standup targets. You as. you hit them you make poker hands and. then you collect points as you go along. there. For whatever reason and it's a. very simple game but for whatever reason. it beguiles even really great players. and I feel pretty confident playing it. So it's a game where I can maximize my. winning percentage on that. But then for. my personal one uh it's actually a very.

recent game that I purchased with the. blessing uh from my wife who's a big fan. of the theme. Uh there's a Jim Henson's. Labyrinth game that was recently. produced and I'm a big fan and uh Yeah. So that's a that's an interesting point. Your wife, >> where is she in your in your obsession. [laughter] with pinball and you're. saying she let me buy this game. >> with her blessing? >> Yeah. And with her blessing? >> But how often is she in the corner uh. crying? [laughter]. >> I'm telling you, you you're right.

You're spot on. There was a time where. we needed it. So before we had children. cuz I have two children uh five and five. years and five months and weird names we. [laughter]. >> hey for family names. Sorry, sorry, sorry. >> Yeah, that's it goes way back. Um, but. no, the uh the before we had my son in. 2020, we did have, you know, we went. went to therapy to, you know, really. have somebody sort of h help us talk. through like, hey, you I do a lot of. things, not only pinball, I would do. some like comedy. I would do video game. tournaments. I would just, you know, I.

love to sing karaoke. I'm all over the. map. And she was. >> You rounded out your pinball obsession. with other equally horrible things. >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. >> Exactly. I do D and D, you know, I'm not stuck. [laughter]. There was a moment where uh yeah, I. think we did have to have a sit down and. be like, "Hey, this this is not. sustainable. How many nights a week? Let's let's just be mindful." And and I. think I'm I'm much better for it. >> That's good. That's cool. >> Is there the equivalent of like. alcoholic synonymous for people that. can't stop playing pinball?

>> They've got twitchy They've got twitchy. thumbs and [laughter] they're like going. bing bing. No. Maybe in the way, you know, there. are people who have have reported if. they play a lot of Tetris, they have. like they like Yeah. You sort of dream. in Tetris. >> Yes. Yeah. I I am I I am the best Tetris. player in the world. [laughter]. >> Wow. Oh my god. >> My My little sister's better. My little. sister's better, but I'm second best in.

[laughter] the world. And yeah, definitely dream in Tetris. Uh think. about Tetra. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I but. I'm able to, you know, I can I can I can. >> I don't think you can. I think you have. a real problem. >> No, it's a it's good. It's not a bad. It's not bad. >> It's not good at [laughter] all. >> I really I want to play it right now. Actually, now that we're talking about. it, I'm like, I got to go. >> Talk to Jason. Got to talk to your. husband about. >> Just bring out your phone right now. [laughter]. >> Did you have a question for me? >> I do, actually. So, I guess one one. quick uh pitch and then a question. I sw. I swear it'll be quick. >> You know what's funny? You always add. things. I'll say I just It's just funny.

be like, you know, uh, do you have a qu, you know, I'll say, oh, and what about. this? Well, I can answer that in nine. ways, >> right? Well, that's [laughter] pinball. for you, right? >> Pinball. He's got pinball. >> Playing pinball with my. >> with my soul. >> Derrick's got pinball brain. [laughter]. >> I mean, I I wrote I wrote I wrote a. musical. I just got extra points with my. one question. I get nine more. >> Wait, wait, wait. You wrote a musical. about pinball? I think there already is. one. >> It Well, not that's about playing. [laughter] pinball. This is about living. pinball. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> It was in a local San Francisco.

competition. I won the contest. It was. great. It was it was wonderful. So yeah, so the one pitch I have is if you ever. do Conan must go but for the United. States. Yep. I got to say about that. I. just want I remembered with the guild. Go ahead. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] But you got to go. go to uh pinball uh in in Chicago as a. lot of the manufacturers go to the. factory. They have a special room where. you can see all the experimental. features. And I just feel like you could. do a lot with a good time. If I go, I'll. bring you. How about that? >> There you go. Thank you. I'll bring you.

a cost. You have to pay the flight and. my camera crew. >> I got you. I got you. Uh, question is, so Team Coco licenses the Team Coco. brand, the Kono brand likeness for a. pinball machine. What features are you. insisting on? >> Well, first of all, I would I would. consult with you if we did this. I would. definitely consult with you. And I love. this idea. That's a great idea. I do. insist. there's so many things that we could get. into the weeds on, but at some point I.

would like to physically come out of the. machine. [laughter]. >> I would like to be and I would be. willing if there was only one and we. could work it out with my schedule. I. would go and I would be secreted in the. machine and and and then when someone. wins, I come out. >> and greet them and take a selfie and. then we I buy them a round of drinks. Like that would be important to me. Now, if that can't happen, I want some kind. of Conan figure to come up out of the. game because I'm selfobsessed. And don't.

you think, what do you think? >> I think that [clears throat] um Okay, so. like if you can picture a pinball. machine, I think it's like as if Conan. is in bed and his head is right here and. then his body is here and he and and. he's naked. No. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. Sorry. Sorry. >> Darcy, wait a minute. Hello, Darcy. [laughter]. >> I like this. I like this. I just. realized what I was sort of describing, but I'm like I'm thinking of fingers. [laughter]. >> What? What? >> She's like describing it with her. fingers, which made it even more. colorful. >> It's highly erotic. [laughter] I'm.

enjoying this. >> Horrifying, >> but definitely something with. >> Derek. I think you should leave. [laughter]. >> No. No. But. >> like some some great ramp with his hair. >> Yes, ramp with the hair is important. But when you say I'm naked, is there. parts of my body that are flipping the. ball or No. Ding ding ding. >> It's like an operation, you know? >> That's what [laughter] I'm picturing. No. >> Yeah. Oh, it could go into different. parts of my body. >> Yes. Yes. >> And it's me. Look, my face is kind of. like cuz I have body shame. >> And this is And this is how you really. get them. You could be This is you. You.

could really be in this pinball machine. Just your little head, your naked torso. Maybe the pinball goes. in your belly button. [laughter]. >> Well, now we're wondering what the. flippers are. >> We are. >> And we're all wondering. Ah, no one's. sitting here wondering. >> and we're wondering. >> and no one's answering the question. >> Well, maybe it's my feet go. They're. turned inward going and going and I'm. I'm kind of like [laughter] my feet are. going h. >> Yeah. Or it's it's the string dance. It's the string dance. >> Oh, string dance.

>> Yes, that makes sense. I was thinking. like your intellectual property like a. little masturbating bear and if the ball. goes there and goes ding ding ding ding. your hands go faster. >> This is great. [laughter]. >> Oh, that's genius. I know. Ding ding. ding ding ding ding ding ding. He's. like, >> he's like quick. not licensed. Um [laughter]. >> I really do think you could make a. >> Derek. Uh I'm very interested. Adam, let's get on this. I think a and not. team cocoa game.

>> Yeah, [laughter] I mean go for it. I. like it. I I think this is all this is. all going into Yeah. that workshop the. body a little bit more. I think it. doesn't need to be there. I don't think. that needs to be there. can show you. photos and stuff just so you know what. you're dealing with. >> That's okay. We're good. >> No, I have I just went to my. dermatologist. >> Color in your face. [laughter]. You look like you're about to vomit. >> Yeah. >> Um Derek, absolute joy talking to you. I. will be we will be in touch if we can. get this game uh to the next level. And.

thank you so much. This was really fun. Thank you. >> Yeah. No, I really appreciate it. It's I. feel very fortunate to have a lovely. experience like this. So yeah, thank you. so much. And Darcy, lovely that you can. join. >> Nice to meet you. What a my area. brother. >> I love this guy. >> Yes, absolutely. >> You're a very lovely fellow and I I have. nine reasons why. [laughter]. >> All right, take care, man. Bye.