Conan Learns About The Art Of Body Modification | Conan O'Brien Needs A Fan

Hi, Grace. Welcome to Conan O'Brien. Needs a Fan. >> Hello there. Nice to be here. Thank you. >> How are you, Grace? >> I'm very good. How are you? >> Well, uh, lovely to meet you. Um, and. you look fantastic. You really do. And, uh, I want to, there's so much to talk. about here because it's, uh, says on my. little piece of paper here that you are. in Bristol, England. Is that correct? >> That is correct. >> I was in London about a week and a half. ago. So sorry I missed you.

>> I'm sorry you missed me, too. [laughter]. >> She doesn't sound sorry at all. >> Yeah, you seem. you seem quite pleased [laughter] that. uh you dodged the serial international. creep. Uh [laughter]. now I don't know much other than it says. here that you are a body modification. assistant. I know nothing about this. topic. Talk to me about I see that you. have tattoos, but what does body.

modification include? >> So, I'm actually a tattoo artist, but. when I was coming up in the industry, I. was a body piercer who then met a body. modification artist and became their. assistant. And body modification in the. realm that I'm talking about would be. like um things like tongue splits, um. scarification, subdermal implants, uh the removal of certain things. Um.

yeah, kind of just coming up in like the. alternative scene in Plymouth where I. grew up. >> Yes. um being into punk music and stuff. like that, I was always seeing these. like heavily tattooed and pierced uh. like singers in bands and stuff like. that and it very much inspired me and it. got me kind of like wanting to learn. more about it. >> and I was always fascinated by it and I. was always wanting to get certain things. done like I was dying to get my tongue. split when since I was like probably 14.

15. >> Well, talk to me about that. Let's start. with tongue splitting cuz I don't know. anything about that. But I know that. people can get a piercing on their. tongue, but I didn't know about a tongue. splitting. What's that? >> Uh, is this Can I show you? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh my god. >> Oh. >> Oh my god. >> That is. >> You have a forked tongue. >> Yes. >> I can't believe a thing you're saying. Uh, [laughter]. >> what? So that's for appearance, right?

That doesn't it doesn't well actually it. would give your tongue more surface area. >> I think. >> Yeah. So like. >> your tongue is two separate muscles so. that's why this works so well. You can. move them independently. Um but yeah it. makes for great life. I can pick food. out of both sides of my mouth at the. same time. >> Oh my god. [laughter]. >> And you could stick your tongue out at. two separate people across the room. Yeah. >> Definitely. >> Good point. Yes.

>> That's not cool. >> Yes it is. It feels like it's not cool. >> You know what? Many times I've wanted to. stick my tongue out, but I have to. choose which person to do it. And. they're usually on either side of a room. some distance from me. >> Then this is the procedure for you. [laughter]. >> That's exactly why I got it done. >> Does it. uh there must be some ways in which it's. inconvenient. Like maybe not. If they're. licking ice cream, how does it uh is it. does it do you you must taste more ice.

cream? >> No, cuz there's not taste buds on the. inside of your tongue, right? You're not. getting new taste buds, are you? >> Well, probably not. >> No, I I taste exactly like my taste. Nothing was different apart from the. fact that these two things in my mouth. now move independently. But honestly, it. felt very freeing to get my tongue. split. Like as soon as it was done and I. started moving it, I was like, "Oh my. god, it feels like my tongue has been in. a vice this whole time.". >> Did it change your speech at all? >> So, I did have a slight lisp when I.

first got it done. >> Mhm. >> And I had to kind of train myself to not. have one, but it wasn't like severe or. anything like that, but it's kind of all. dependent on the person. >> Um, but yeah, it's it's uh it's it was. something I'd always wanted done from a. young age. And then I got a piercing. apprenticeship in London. And the woman. who was my mentor, she was like this. radical, you know, heavily modified. Polish woman who was terrifying. Uh.

[laughter]. she basically was able to facilitate. that for me because she she was like the. gatekeeper to body modification for me. and she opened the door and introduced. me to people who could facilitate all. these sorts of things, you know. So, there's so many things. You said. you've done something to your belly. button. What did you have done to your. belly button? >> I removed it. [sighs and gasps]. >> How do you remove a belly button? >> I can't do that. >> I didn't know you could do that. >> So, what are the Is it just smooth there.

now? There's no sign of anything ever. having been there. >> Yes, exactly. Like a Barbie doll. >> What did you do with it? Yeah. What. happens to the [laughter]. >> I actually set so it so I'm 37 now and I. got it done when I was like 19 20. So um. what I did was I took it dried it and. set it in resin in a heart shape and I. gave it to the boy that I fancied at the.

time. [laughter]. >> OH MY GOD. >> YOU KNOW THAT'S A mafia death threat. [laughter]. >> That's right up with a fish in your. mailbox. belly button. Yeah, his belly. button mail. >> OH MY GOD. >> DID YOU GET it back if when you guys. broke up? >> Uh, no. I never got it back. >> Oh my god. >> Got your belly button. >> You know, it's so great. He you guys. break up and or he breaks up with you. and you go to his door and you're. crying. You want, I want my belly button. back. [laughter].

>> Yes. >> I had a girlfriend once demand the. sweater she knit me back because. [laughter] we broke up. >> And so this is the same thing basically. >> My body part. >> Yeah. [laughter]. You also had your eyes tattooed purple. Are you talking about the iris of your. eyes? >> Yeah. So, I don't know if you can see. >> Oh my god. How do you do Wait, I don't. understand how that works. Your eyes are. purple. Why have you not been grabbed by. the government for being an alien? >> Well, I'm mov I'm actually moving to. America at the end of the year, and it. is one of my my fears. [laughter].

>> Trust me, it's not going to be your top. fear, Grace. Uh, plenty of other going on here. right now. Uh, >> can't wait. >> You'll soon forget all your. modifications. So, you've got That's in. So, her eyeballs are tattooed purple. >> Does that hurt when they do it? >> So, it wasn't necessarily painful like. the procedure cuz it's done by injection. and like So, imagine that the white part. of your eye is covered in saran wrap. That's what you guys call it, right?

>> Yeah. Like that. >> Oh, you're all ready for America. Don't. worry about it. [laughter] I am. I'm. ready to go. >> I just learned Captain Crunch and you're. set. >> So, yeah, they put Imagine like your. eye, the white of your eye has this kind. of clear layer over it and there is like. a a pocket in between that where the the. ink sits. >> The scara. >> So, it's done by um it had Yeah, exactly. The scalera. There you go. Um. they basically inject around the eye. I've had 12 injections in each eye. >> Oh my goodness. kind of spreads out like.

the little bubble of ink kind of forms. on top of the eye and then within like. an hour it starts to disperse and like. spread out. >> So this in no way affects your vision. >> I have never had any issues with my. vision but I'm not going to sit here and. say that no there's no risk or there's. massive risk and people have gone blind, people have lost their eyes. Um, I was. the assistant of the body modification. artist who invented the procedure. So, I.

was um, you know, assisting a lot of. eyeball tattoos and I I loved the way. that it looked, but I obviously was a. little bit cautious about how risky it. was. Um, but, you know, being young and. dumb and after a while, I was like, "Fuck it. Let's go.". >> Yeah. >> Can I swear? >> Yes. >> Yes. We can always have it removed. [laughter] Okay. >> And given to a former Exactly. >> The it is now being given to my.

girlfriend. Um [laughter]. uh Okay. So, these are the You do. piercings. You pierce ears. You also pierce nipples. and you pierce women's genitalia, but. not men's genitalia. Is that correct? >> I feel like this is a trial, by the way. >> I know. Yeah. The way you're asking it, you're. >> not very square. >> Dr. Lectar, [laughter] is it not true? >> Uh, act argumentative. So, you peer you.

pierce women's uh. >> Say it. >> Say it. >> Say it. >> Sacred spaces. >> No. >> God. >> Yes. I pierce clitorises and labia. [laughter]. >> And. >> there's no evidence there's a clitoris. >> None. [laughter] I'm a clitoris denier. I'm on record. >> Um, >> well, you you you don't think that they. exist. >> I'm just I've never seen any evidence. [laughter]. >> Listen, Grace.

You don't want to go down this road with. me. It's not pleasant. Uh, no. So, um, but you don't do women. You don't do. penises. Is that right? >> So, yeah. I I started off as a piercer. when I was a a teenager, and I learned. to do everything. my my mentor taught me. how to pierce everything and I did that. for for years. I worked in Soho in. London and. >> I'm sure you've been to Soho. It's a fun. place. >> I do. I love Soho. >> Yes, it's a great place. But because of.

it being in central London and being so. next to so like I worked on Wardor. Street which is really close to where. all like the fetish shops and the sex. shops are. >> which don't get me wrong love all of. that but because of that we'd get like a. an influx of older gentlemen who would. like to get their genitals pierced. >> Interesting. >> Yes. I was happy to oblige, but then I. noticed a pattern where there was just. like, you know, they would get a.

piercing and then it would fall out two. weeks later and they'd come in and be. like, "Can you put it back in for me?". And then it got to the point where it's. like, >> "Oopsy dupsy for the piercing.". oopsy. >> I was like, "I'm done with that. >> I will pierce female genitalia all day, every day, all day long. Love that.". >> [snorts]. >> Um because that just feels like a. bonding sister moment, you know. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I'm saying sure. I just don't. know. >> I'm gonna be honest with you. I I have.

to be honest with you. I don't know. >> Oh, [laughter] yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bonding. >> Um. >> how much does all of this [snorts] cost? Is it expensive? I imagine cuz I don't. if when I get my eyes dyed, I don't want. to go the cheap route. I want to get the. best person. Is all of this expensive? So, um, body modification is definitely. more expensive than like piercing and, um, because it's more high risk, >> but when I got all my modifications done.

like over 15 years ago, so. >> it's probably a bit different now. Like, I paid £250 to get my tongue split, and. I think that's probably pretty cheap. compared to what the going rate is. today. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, I think I think the eyes are. at least a couple of grand. I'm not. sure. Yeah. >> I didn't pay for mine. I wouldn't do. that. >> I'll do it for 20. >> I'll do it $20. You're going to do it? >> I'll do it for 20. >> Okay. Well, that's No one's going to go. to you. But do you have. >> I'll I'll split your whole face for.

free. [laughter]. >> What about a penis? Splitting a penis is a. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's back. it up. You split. You can split a penis. >> He's blacking it up cuz he's interested. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Yes, you can split a penis. But I don't. understand. I in no way understand. You. can. >> Okay, let's go through the levels. There. are levels to this right? >> Okay. >> So, level one would be imagine that the.

head of the penis is a birthday cake, right? >> Yeah. >> And obviously you have the urethra, which is the center of the cake, and. then you have that seam that goes down. the back of the head of the penis. >> Yes. Yes. >> Right. So, imagine you are cutting the. first slice of cake. Not not the one, two, just the first cut. >> Yeah. >> You cut down that seam. >> and expose the urethra. Right. So, this. is the penis. >> Okay. >> And you expose the urethra. >> Okay. >> Then level two would be either exposing.

the whole head. >> or continuing to expose the bottom of. the urethra going down. >> What's the purpose? Do you end up with. two penises? Well, some people who go very extreme. with it do. They'll end up with this. >> Oh, sorry. Is this naive? But everything. then still functions. >> Yeah. How do you pee if the urethra is. just dangling in the wind? >> And can you have sex with two women. across the room? >> We were going to get to that. That's. >> We're getting your anatomy. If you know,

the bigger the anatomy, I'm guessing the. more that we can do with it, the more. opportunity there is for that sort of. thing. You can get fancier with a bigger. cake. You can do more. [laughter]. >> It's not when there's levels of the. cake. >> Let's talk about the smaller cake. >> A cupcake. >> Mini cupcake. >> Well, [laughter] not even a cupcake. >> One of those mini cupcakes. >> Maybe a Reese's. [laughter]. >> Talk about the mini Reese's piece.

>> Peanut butter cup. >> Oh my god. >> You can't even get one candle on it. [laughter] Um well anyway. >> I've never I've never had quitus with. someone with a split penis but from my. understanding of talking to people you. can once the penis is erect put it. together and insert it there. Oh, you. got to probably stay with one side cuz. it. >> it has to. >> It has to, right? >> Yeah, it has to. The. >> urethra Well, if it's a good body.

modification artist, they will split the. urethra. >> Double urethras. >> You get two streams when you pee. >> Well, well, no, you get you get no. streams. You basically pee like a a. girl. You'd have to sit down. >> Okay. For Christ's sake, >> the gers cuz it would just go. everywhere. [laughter]. >> You've got like you're you're you're. cutting the hose in half. Do you know. what I mean? So there's no direction. You not go right down the middle so that. you still have a urethra and you pee off. out of one and the other one's just for. fun, >> you know, >> because.

>> like, hey, you go and you urinate and. I'm going to get to work over here. [laughter]. >> The penises are talking to each other. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, that's cool. >> Hey, buddy. I'm going over. I'm going to. use a urinal. Why don't you go check her. out? >> All right. >> But, you know, you guys sit down to pee. for a treat sometimes, right? So, it's. like you're just treating yourself all. the time. No, I I don't sit down as a. treat. I don't know that. I mean, that's. a sad life if that's my big treat I give. myself. [laughter]. >> I don't think I'll sit down to pee.

>> I haven't been happy for 8 years. >> Um, no. I I've never done that as a. treat. No, I don't think men sit down to. pee. >> Yeah. Not typically. >> Not men I know. What's that? >> Maybe not in the US, but in the UK. that's how they treat. >> That's a national pastime. Yeah. [laughter]. God save the queen, please. Every time. you sit, I've had a tough week. Let's. take a treat. [laughter]. >> Sit down. >> So cool. >> You okay? You have suggestions. It says. here for Conan and Sona as to what we.

should have done. What would you have me. uh have me do? What should I What if I. came in Grace and I said to you, "Grace, um what's your suggestion? What would. you say?". Well, because of the way you look, I. feel like you have a bit of a Ken vibe, like Ken doll vibe, you know, bit of a. Ken and Barbie vibe. And Ken doesn't. have any nipples. So, I would say like, why don't you just elevate your keness. >> and remove your nipples?

>> Okay. So, just sm it to be smooth there. Can I rem can you remove nipples? >> Yeah, absolutely. especially. >> not really something that's done on. women cuz you have a a higher chance of. um getting mastitis, but with men it's. very easy. >> So, okay, step one, both nipples go and. I gift them to Matt and Dona. [laughter]. >> Yeah, once they're of course. appropriately dried in a kiln. >> Vintage. >> Okay, what else? Let's go to town. I. will have my belly button removed as.

well because if you're going to go Ken, you might as well go all the way. And. what do I what do I do with my Don. Johnson down south? What would you have. me [laughter]. >> what would you have me do with that? >> Well, in my experience, the more. conservative looking the man is from the. outside, the more extreme. >> Yes. I'm a I got kinks. I've got major. kinks. >> Exactly. So, I think we go like full hog. and ball torture, full penis split, and then a transcrotal with.

>> What's a transcrotal? has a male steel. ring in it. >> Okay. Well, that's going to hold me up. at the TSA. What uh [laughter]. what is what is a transcr? [clears throat]. And that's the only downside I can see. [laughter]. >> Right. >> Sir, did you remove your keys? I did, but I have two penises and I have a. bicycle lock jammed through my scrotum. >> Yes. >> Could that be the problem, [laughter]. sir? Or instead of having a transcroal so we. can get rid of the metal, we could al.

always insert an extra set of testicles. into your scrot. So you have. >> extra set. [laughter]. >> That's being generous. I'd settle for a. couple of BBs. [laughter]. >> I'd take anything right now. >> Jesus Christ. >> Oh my god. >> Uh so so so just so I'm clear, that. would be a split penis. So I have two of. those and then this the mechanism the.

apparatus goes through uh both. testicles. Is that correct? >> So no what happens is your scrotum is. like this right? >> Don't assume [laughter]. the testicles. >> Okay. So so go ahead. So I'm sorry I'm. really trying to understand. So the what. happens to the the the scrotum? Yes I. understand. And what. >> imagine pushing your little eggs to the. side, one each side, right? And then. they clamp the skin and they basically. drive a scalpel blade through the.

testicles and then you know like the the. plugs that people have in their ears. when they stretch the holes in their. ears. It's essentially that. So you can. have like a big stretched hole. >> going through your scrotum, but imagine. like a big metal ring going like through. it. >> I've imagined it. Yeah. [laughter]. >> I'm going to tell you I'm going to tell. you something. This whole time that you. were describing that, I am gripping my. hands together. I just noticed it so. tightly that there's no blood in my I'm.

literally this is what I'm doing. I'm. >> gripping my hands together because when. you say you shove the testicles to. either side and then did you have the. same reaction that you drive a you. basically take out a Black & Decker. drill and you go at the Is it the taint? Are we talking about the taint? >> No, it's not. It's the scrotum. I don't. even have testicles and I was squirmy. when she was when when Grace was. describing what happened. I. >> I don't think I could I don't see the. purpose of a split penis. I just don't. I.

>> Well, you're boring. >> And I feel like I feel like I'm also. boring. Like I didn't know we could do. this to our bodies. And I think it's. really cool that we can. >> No. No. A lot of this sounds really. fascinating to me. I have no problem. with it. I'm talking about me. personally. if in your single days you got it on. with a guy you met at the clubs cuz you. you know you had a you played at fast. and loose and um. >> no no in a in a very good healthy. empowering way but it's it's time to get. to town. Uh the guy drops his pants and.

um suddenly his penis goes, you know, one goes east, one goes west. Uh would. you would you freak out? >> And each one is going pick me, pick me. [laughter] Yeah. Could we rubber band it. and then just insert it together. >> or do they when it gets erect? I think I. think Grace was saying it just naturally. comes together when it gets erect. >> I would I would want a series of clamps. >> I would insist on a series of clamps, uh, rubber bands, um, and the occasional. use of Elmer's glue. I would I would.

maybe [laughter] a gasket. Yeah. But. interestingly, before you answer that, let's make this a two-parter. So come. back next time and we can talk more. about this with. Grace, you are the gift that keeps on. giving. So do. >> you mind staying on a little longer, Grace? Can you stay on a little longer, Grace? Is that all right? >> Of course. Yeah, absolutely. I'm here as. long as you need me.