Billie Eilish (Full Episode) | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

[music] Hi, my name is Billy Isish and I. feel really good about being Conan. O'Brien's friend. >> Oh, that's so nice. >> It's true. [music]. >> Hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien. needs a friend. Joined by Sona Ocessian. Hey Sona. >> Hello. >> And uh David of course hopping. >> Hello. And um there's been a lot of. chatter I guess online uh about Eduardo. because Eduardo just I guess this.

episode just dropped where he called me. um a little [laughter]. >> And Eduardo, let's talk about this. People, it's blowing up. People are. loving it that you called your employer. a little [laughter] And um and. you today when it was all blowing up. admitted to me that you were a little. rattled afterwards. >> I was I I I remember it happening and I. remember going home and talking to my. wife. She'll ask how was work today? I.

was like, you know, kind of weird. And. she said, "What do you mean?" And she. knows the hygiene. She's seen some of. the videos. And I said, "Uh, today I. think I went a little too far.". >> A. >> And she said, "What did you say?" I. said, "I call Court a little bitch.". [laughter]. >> She just started laughing. >> Oh, she tried. Oh. Oh, she didn't say, "Oh my god, uh, that's too far." She. just started laughing. Um, well, you. know, I looked into it and apparently. and I consulted my doctor and I talked. to family. I am a little.

[laughter]. >> So, you are on safe ground. >> I feel better. >> No, no, no. You you uh [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> It just felt weird, you know, to I'm not. used to being. >> It didn't feel just right in every way. [laughter]. It was a candid moment and. >> Yeah, but that's what makes it work. >> It wasn't weird for you at all? >> No. >> Really? I think cuz I I don't know how. you guys felt, but I was like, "Oh, whoa. Eduardo went there." Nobody else. felt that. >> When you say went there, it sounds like. he visited a place that we all know.

about. [laughter] That's. he said the thing that we're all. thinking like it's the emperor's uh you. know, new clothes. Okay. Um, no. I I. wasn't I think that's how I [laughter]. I think you matched my selfimage. I think you mirrored how I felt and I. just So, I just felt like I was getting. into perfect I was stepping into a bath. that was perfect human body temperature. That's [laughter] how it felt to me. >> You create an environment that people. feel safe to call you a little in.

>> Yes. Yeah. Hey, watch it. You know, you. you have to be careful. >> You know what I mean? >> Is it cuz it's. Is it is he the only one who could say. that to. >> has Yeah. Edro Eduardo has all kinds of. cred. He's like the coolest guy here and. he designed the studio and he's, >> you know, he he's not thirsty at all. He. doesn't need praise. He's just this guy. He's just Eduardo. He knows he's good. So when he says something that has a. certain ring of truth, he. >> just insulted everybody in here.

>> Well, the rest of us are just like. except for you. I know. literally like you're the only person in. here. >> It's Eduardo and then just a collection. of the worst people I've ever seen. [laughter]. >> Uh so no, >> you hired every single person in this. room. >> I didn't hire you. Sona hired you. Thanks. >> I don't even think I hired Sona anymore. [laughter] I was interviewing her. She. offered me a drink. I blacked out and. she was my assistant. >> Oh no. >> Yeah. You roofied me and then you became. my assistant. >> Yeah. >> Um but um.

>> made you sign papers. >> Yes. Many papers. But um yeah, I do. think if. Adam, if you called me a little. [laughter] it would it would upset me. You know, if you said like, "Hey, we're. going to do this dynamic ad insertion. Uh it's a new policy. It's Sirius." I'd. be like, "Well, I don't think I want to. do that." You'd be like, "What are you, a little bitch?" [laughter] I'd be. upset. You know, Bla, if you said, "Hey, little bitch.". >> Uh I'd be freaked out. I would. physically assault you. And David,

that's just would be a huge mistake. coming from [laughter] you to call me a. little You know why? In what. context would you say it? >> Oh, >> let's think of a context you'd say. Oh, you'd say, "Hey, I'm um going to see. Hillary Duff tonight and for the seventh. for the seventh night in a row, I'm. going to see her um and then I'm. following her to she's taking a. vacation. Uh and I'm I'm following her. and her family.". >> Oh, God. >> I know where she's staying. That kind of. thing. [laughter] But if you said, "Hey,

I'm going to go see a show tonight and I. have an extra I have a third ticket cuz. uh Dustin and I are going, but Conan, you can come, too." And I said, "I don't. know. I I'm It's kind of late, and I. don't think that's my scene, so I don't. think I'll go.". >> It's like, "Fuck you, you little bitch.". >> Yeah. >> Oh god. >> Wait a minute. Why' you add [laughter]. you? Oh my god. That made. That's way too far. >> Jesus. >> What the hell? >> I thought it would I thought it would be. like a new personality for me and. >> that was awful. That was not cool. you, little No, that's not.

how you do it. >> Nobody likes you go to town. >> He did. I think you gave him license to. vent and then he vented. >> Yeah. >> Jesus. >> 10 years of working came out. >> What if we What if your mom heard that? What would she. >> We're going to need to bleep that. >> Is that true? >> Yeah. >> She'd be upset, right? >> Be disappointed in me. >> She's a good woman. Your mom. >> Yeah. >> Um remember when I sent her flowers? >> That was really nice. >> Cuz she taught me how to put. >> She helped you with your contacts. >> Yeah. We did a Zoom and she taught me. how to put contact lenses in over Zoom. >> Yeah. And as I was talking to her, corn. grew into the window [laughter]. behind her. That's how fast corn grows.

around your house there in southern. [laughter]. southern Chicago, Illinois. >> Southern Chicago. >> Uh whatever. And anyway, and it was like. [laughter]. and then the corn went, "I'll help too. Um wash your hands first.". >> Um [laughter]. what the. >> Yeah. Talking corn in southern Illinois. that teaches you how to put contact. lenses. >> The phone. Exactly. Got it. Okay. So. anywh who um yeah she'd be upset if she. heard you talk that way to me. >> But uh no, you just got mad props from. me for you know what you you it was.

>> I think it it came out of your face. because it was so right for you to say. it in that moment. >> Uh testament to you. I I talked to some. of my friends like that. So I just felt. very comfortable, you know, to uh. >> So can I start hanging with you and your. crew? >> Maybe. [sighs]. >> What do you guys do when you hang with. your friends? Where do you go? >> Depends on what we're doing. Different. friends for different things. Do you. ever just drive around in that car that. the Entourage guys had? Uh, >> no. No, I don't do that anymore. >> Suicide doors. >> Yeah, I used to do that. >> Lincoln Continental. >> Just hang out, watch the game.

>> Watch the game. >> Golf. >> I want to drive around town with you and. your friends and I want to rent the same. car they used in Entourage. >> Let's do it. >> Can we do that sometime? >> Let's do it. >> Where are you going to go? >> And play that pit bull song on. >> Oh my god. >> Back in Back in Time, Men in Black. soundtrack. >> Oh god. Where What are you guys going to. do and where you going to go? >> Drive around, be seen by people. >> Okay. We just cruise. >> Yeah, cruise. You just cruise. >> Okay. >> And Yeah. And then every now and then we. stop off and we get What do we eat? >> Um some burgers maybe. >> Okay.

>> Some tacos. >> No. Why'd you say tacos? >> Aim higher. He's going to pay. You're. going to get some like steak at Michelin. restaurant. You put a little You put a. little st emphas. >> tacos. What do you want me to say? >> You didn't say tacos the way I say it. You said it. >> Tacos. >> Tacos. >> Why would he say it the way you say it? But if I switched it, [laughter] if I. switched it and and said tacos that way, would you be offended? Great. Yes. >> You'd be okay with it. If I was like, "Yeah, I'm going to get some mayonnaise. and then I'm going to get some ice cream. and some tacos.". >> Yes. [laughter]. >> You're okay with that? >> Yes.

>> That's cool. I'm going to start doing. that. >> Yeah. Maybe with a lot of words like. quesadillas and stuff. >> Don't say it that way. >> Yeah. Don't say it like that. >> Say it like Say it like he say. Yeah. >> Quesadillas. >> Exactly. >> Do your your voice is going lower, too. You're trying to be Eduardo. That's what. you're doing. You're trying to be. Eduardo right now. >> Every now and then I like to have. sometimes I like to have some Starburst. >> Yeah. >> Then I like to have some Fanta. Yummy, yummy, yummy. Out of a can. >> Yeah. >> And then some tacos. [laughter]. >> It's perfect. >> And quesadillas.

>> All right. You can hang with us. >> You know, we're going to hang. We're. going to drive around like entourage. >> My god. >> And occasionally get a taco. [laughter]. My guest today is a Grammy award-winning. singer songwriter whose new concert. movie Billy Isish Hit Me Hard and Soft. to live in 3D is out now. And uh this uh. this incredible person was on the show. once before. We had a blast. She's back. and I'm thrilled. Billy Isish, welcome.

>> We had such a good time last time you. were here. >> It was the best day ever. It was. Oh, that's a little crazy. >> I loved it. I really loved it. >> Okay, the best day ever means you've had. a tragic life [laughter]. by definition. >> One of my favorite days. [laughter]. >> I loved it so much. Phineas was so. upset. Yesterday we were in the studio. and he he he had seen my calendar and he. was like, >> "Are you doing Conan tomorrow?" And I. was like, "Yeah." He he was really. upset. He was like, "Can I I know I.

don't have anything to do with the. movie, [laughter] but please can I?". Anyway, so he he. >> I don't know if you remember this a. little awkward, but I last time at. towards the end of the podcast, I said, "Billy, you're welcome back anytime.". And then I I don't know what got into. it, but I turned to Phineas. You. remember this? Yes. >> And I was like, "You shall never be here. again." [laughter]. >> It was weird. >> It was very weird and uncalled for. >> Uncalled for. >> No, I love Phineas. He's welcome here. anytime. Uh but I'm so thrilled that you. were here today. Me, >> too. >> The first thing.

>> that comes to my mind, I may have. mentioned this last time. I think this. woman has magical eyes. Look at those. eyes there. I mean, you must get this. all the time, but. >> what do you mean? No, but I'm saying. like your her eyes are in stunningly, but also it looks like you can look into. other worlds with those eyes. [laughter]. >> I DON'T HAVE EYES LIKE THAT. I have like. suspicious creepy eyes. You have like. artist eyes that look out and see new. worlds. And then I'm like, "Hi, Billy. How's it going?" [laughter].

Gollum. The ring. the ring passes. >> and you're just there's so much right. Am I wrong? >> Yeah, I have no You're right. They're. both blue. Both your eyes are blue. But. you're right. They are They're. observation. [laughter]. >> They're better eyes. >> Say it. It's okay. >> You have beautiful eyes, too, though, Conan. But thank you for the compliment. So sweet and ridiculous. >> Okay, here's what I was thinking about. today. All right, this is what I'm. thinking about. Uh, you know, just I'm. going to embarrass you for a second, but. the statistics are insane. 44 hot 100.

hits, 10 Grammys, two Oscars. And I had. this feeling today, it's time to get. out. [laughter]. Get a Hyundai dealership in the valley. Billy's Hyundai's. That's [laughter] a. good car. Has a good ring to it. >> A Hyundai. You know what I mean? Kind of. does. >> Now listen, your team, you came with a. big team. They're going to be mad. It's. [laughter] time to get out. >> They're trying to open the door now. >> And yeah, I bolted the door so they. can't get in. They're like smashing at. the lock. [laughter].

I just think just think about it. >> Okay. >> You with a car dealership. I think you'd. be you'd do great. >> I do love cars. I Why did you [laughter]. think of that? Well, what made you. think? >> I think the Hyundai is a solid car. >> But why? >> I'm just trying to get a free Hyundai. [laughter]. >> Cuz they sponsor on our show. That's. right. They sponsor on this. >> Oh, is that true? >> I don't even know that. >> You say Hyundai so many times. That. >> I love the way it rolls off the tongue. Hyundai. [laughter]. >> Hyundai. I'm looking for that car. >> What do you um What are the like ads you. have to do for this podcast when people. listen? used to be when we started out.

it was really fun because they were um. these and and listen I I love these. products. I really do. But it would be. like a company a company there was a. company called Fracture. I'm sure it. still is. And they would take let's say. you had a nice picture of you and. Phineas together. Um you would take it. to Fracture and they would send it back. to you and it would be etched into. glass. >> Oh my god. And so I used to do these. long runs where I would say, "The other. day someone showed me a picture of my. grandmother on paper and I ripped it up.

[laughter] cuz if it's not ON GLASS, I. WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. YOU HAVE TO. HAVE FRACTURE PRINTS." So those are the. early days. Then when the podcast got. big, suddenly it's these products that. are harder and harder to kind of have. the same fun with except Lux Bedet. >> Oh god. >> Lux is that. >> Lux Bedet. It's a bedet. >> And um. >> yeah, I think you know what a bedet is. Okay. you've been around. >> Oh, yeah. [laughter]. >> Uh, and. >> love me a good bet. >> They would write the most embarrassing.

copy and it was stuff like, you know, after a big Thanksgiving meal, you can. do some real damage. >> It was always to mislead you. >> And it was and I didn't know. I started. to read it before I knew what it was. So, it's on the internet. Where is it? Where can you see this ad? On YouTube. You can see it's on YouTube. And I lost. my mind. >> Also, we love the Lux Bedet people so. much. They actually wrote an ad where it. started with a fake ad for like a. burrito [laughter]. company and then it turned into. burritos. And then he's like, "Oh my. god, IS THIS A LUX BED?" [laughter]. >> NO, they were tricking me. They were.

baiting me. But um Wow. >> Yes. I've humiliated myself many times. with Everton, but we're not here to talk. about the Lux. >> I'm like, which [laughter]. >> how happy Can I just say one thing? How. happy is is Lux Bedet and Fracture right. now [laughter] that one of the biggest. music stars in the world is here and. we're talking about their product and. not getting paid. [laughter]. >> Um, yeah, I just wanted to say that. Well, I want to start by asking about. your family. How is Phineas? How's he. doing? >> He's doing great. He's doing great. He's.

getting married in August. >> Okay. And do we do we like this person? >> We love her. >> Her name is Claudia. She's wonderful. They've been together like seven years. and um yeah, it's awesome. I'm. very excited. >> Okay. Are you going to participate in. this uh festivity at all or is that a. secret? You can't say. >> it probably is a secret, but yes, I'm. very excited. >> Oh, cool. >> Yeah. So, he's he's really good. We're. like in the middle of making an album, which is interesting because the last. time I came here, the only time I came. here was like 3 years ago almost to the. day. >> Yep. >> And it was also in the middle of an.

album process. And it was actually I was. thinking about this like yesterday. It. was the day that we made Birds of a. Feather when we came here. It was like. the morning after we had written the. beginning of it. >> Oh my god. >> And I remember coming in here and going. into that room you and I were just in. talking and I remember like seeing some. team members cuz all of my team was here. for that cuz they were so excited that. [laughter] I was going to be doing this. Everyone on my whole label came and I. remember walking in there and going like. I think we made a really cool song. It's. called Birds of a Feather. And I. remember playing it for them. So with.

that being said, that's really isn't. that. >> But can I say one thing though? This is. how I remember it. >> I really left to go finish it. Anyway, >> this is how I remember that. You came in. and you were there with Phineas and I. said, "You guys seem to be really. tight." And you went, "We are really. tight." And I said, "It's almost like. you're birds of a feather.". >> Oh my god, I knew. >> And [laughter] this is what I recall. very distinctly. Billy, you said, "Birds. of a feather. Hey, there's something. there." And I said, "Yeah, maybe an A. minor." [laughter]. Remember this? And then you said, "Great.

idea." And you said, "Let's split the. royalties." And I said, "Okay, [laughter]. let's talk." AND THEN IT NEVER HAPPENED. I WROTE BIRDS of a Feather. [laughter]. >> Nice try there. >> Anyway, that's how I remember it. [laughter] Um, >> look at that hair. Look at that fluff. >> This hair is everywhere. And you know. what it is? I left it. No, I didn't do. anything. This is called No. Yeah, I. went to a dry bar today and got my hair. blown out [laughter] cuz I'm going to. prom. Um,

no. I [laughter] I let it get a little. long to the Oscars and then I haven't. cut it. And that was like 2 and 1/2. weeks ago. And so what happens is it. gets to this point where it's perfect. and then it if it goes like a centimeter. more, it goes. >> and um that's boring. Uh [laughter]. >> but did you do it yourself? >> I didn't do anything. It's just this is. me. >> No way. This is your natural hair. Um, yeah. I mean, I didn't I didn't It won't. play the same way it usually does where. I can get my cool I call it cool uh wave. in it. Now, it won't do that because.

it's too long and it's just a big floppy. mess. >> It's not like a hastack. >> No, it looks wonderful. >> All right. Well, I'm going to stick with. this now. >> Um, [laughter]. >> but I here's what I also remember. I. remember your parents were here. >> and there was such everyone came there. was such a good vibe and I was talking. to your parents um for a while and I. felt so good cuz I thought this is a. real family like this is not okay. Let's. pretend to be a real family so we can. make it through this podcast. [laughter].

You guys were here for quite a while. You wouldn't leave. >> Nope. >> Um and then Yeah. And um I mean. literally for like an hour late an hour. hour later I think you guys were still. hanging out in the kitchen. It was. really fun. It was it was happening. telling you. >> But your parents. were um very cool and kind of in a great. way unaffected by it all. Like they seem. like these are people that just want. their kids to be happy. >> Yeah. Um, and. uh, then I find out I was reading some.

interview you did somewhere where you. said, "Oh, when we drive places. together, we all sing songs." [laughter]. You said, "We're like like a like a. family from like the 1950s and or in. like a corny movie." Is that true? >> It it it was true growing up. I probably. said it like in a past tense, you know, like we did growing up. We're not. usually all in a car together singing. >> [laughter]. >> like to. >> I like that image that that now at this.

point in your career you two will be. like well. >> you and your folks and your brother will. get into a car together and I'm thinking. a station wagon from the late '7s. [laughter]. >> yeah no that's that really makes us. sound. >> insufferable roll your [laughter]. >> literally but yes and you know what. >> sorry I'm sorry I cracked myself up. [laughter] and that means someone's. always laughing Yeah. >> Um, >> was there a time when you would do that? Because my family never did that ever.

There was no joyous singing. >> Was there joyous anything? >> Um, we love to be around a ham chewing. it. >> Chewing swallowing it too or. >> like just chewing it and spitting it out. like birds. >> hanging off a like. >> We all had a different. >> We sat at a round table and each one. there was a ham. There was six hams. [laughter]. >> on six ropes for each kid. >> and we would just go [laughter]. But um no there was a lot of laughter. but there was no.

you know singing along or doing. harmonies or anything. You can't imagine. my dad. I. >> cannot imagine your dad. >> We weren't falling. It was more. [laughter]. >> it was more like listening to music in. the car and all of us singing along. More like that. And and the only the. only reason I probably said it like that. is because my childhood friend used to. comment on like how kind of like surreal. it was to be around our family because. we were all singing all the time like.

singing and like harmonizing with each. other and listening to music constantly. playing music, playing guitar and piano. and like so yes, music was always being. played but we grew up in the most. musical family ever. You have to be. vulnerable if you're gonna sing with. other people. And I don't think in our. family we were. >> we would have let ourselves be that. vulnerable. I'm not even kidding. I. think it was all about. >> I guess Irish people they're being like. super welldefended and then making jokes. and everyone laughs. But if someone was. to start singing, the rest of us would.

have started throwing things at them. You [laughter] know what I mean? >> So maybe I wanted to be following with. my parents and my brothers and sisters. >> Um you know it's funny. Uh yeah, I I. mean I I do my version. What would you. say, David? Or. >> I think you I think you have a great. voice. Yeah. Well, I play music. I kind. of play uh I play guitar and I love to. do like rockabilly stuff, that kind of. um so yeah, that's my thing. >> You did a Newport Folk Festival show not.

too long ago. >> Oh my god. Well, what the hell? >> All right. [laughter] Well, >> but so your family didn't sing or play. music, did they? this did they were they. playing music or. >> uh no there were very few records in our. house and and the records there were. were comedy records but my parents. didn't have you know yeah and then later. on we started getting our own records. when we were teenagers and but uh my. parents didn't have like a big record. collection or anything there just wasn't. we weren't that kind of people. >> right. >> so um I would have not fit in with your.

family uh [laughter]. >> I would have been in the way back of the. station wagon going WHAT'S GOING ON. [laughter]. LA. >> UH, we have something in common, which. is I don't think you liked your name. growing up and I didn't like my name. growing up. Let's talk about that. >> Let's talk about that. Well, tell me. about yours. >> Uh, well, it's Conan and um that didn't. fly when I was a kid. >> Why? Why? Why? >> People had never heard it before there. It was before the Conan the Barbarian.

comics really caught on. So early on, people were like, Conan, what's that? And then once the Barbarian movies. started to come out, I swear to God, everyone was like, "Conan, what are you. the barbarian? Where's your sword?". And it was, you know, about 15 years of. that. >> Jesus Christ. >> Yeah. So, no wonder I didn't want to be. vulnerable when I was singing. Uh, what. about you? >> Well, for me it was. >> I same thing like nobody had heard it. except if they had heard it. the the.

thing that I would hear every single. time I said my name was that's a boy's. name you know every time I talked to any. child also like adults like even adults. would say other kids would say they'd. just be like Billy is a boy's name but. isn't Billy a boy's name and you know. how kids are like little so. they're going to be like that's a boy. you know. >> and that really pissed me off also cuz I. was like I really wanted to be. everything girly as a kid like as a kid. I loved you know all the things a little. girl loves I loved my princess things. and my pink things and whatever and so.

Billy just didn't make s but in. hindsight I mean first of all I love my. name and I wonder how you feel about. your name now. >> I like it I think I grew into it and I. think that's what has to happen with. your name sometimes what is the name. that you would have wanted. >> I can tell you. >> okay. >> uh sparkle [laughter]. I wanted to be named sparkle but. >> more realistic. >> me too [laughter]. >> more realistically I wanted to be named. Violet really bad I really wanted to be.

named Violet. I wanted to be named. Lavender. >> Oh, wow. >> Um I knew a girl named Flower. Like very. specific theme. >> Sure. Yeah. >> Um Oh, also I my like this is such a. homeschooly vibe, but my mom when she. was pregnant with me, like Phineas was. four or three and he would call the. belly which I was in p pirate. He'd be. like I want pirate to come out. So they. had named me pirate like as a kind of.

whatever and they were thinking and. considering naming me pirate Okonnell. [laughter]. >> because this because because this. >> in Los Angeles [laughter]. >> pirates a badass as a girl but but. >> yes it would have been a little tough. and also bully central I feel like but. at the same time. >> would have been cool but I am really. glad in hindsight I'm not named pirate. [laughter]. Um, that's some LA That is some. serious LA homeschooler.

>> Shame Pirate is listening right now. >> Sorry if you're listening right now and. your name is Pirate or Sparkle. >> But Conan, >> apologies. >> Don't you you feel like this cuz I feel. like there's first of all, I love my. name and also I can't imagine any other. name for myself at all. I mean now I. just turned it into I don't know what I. did or. >> you know sometimes I think that the name. can also help influence you a little bit. and so if it made you feel in any way. when you're.

>> really young uh if it made you feel a. little unbalanced or I don't really love. this. Maybe that's a good thing to have. if you want to be artistic um when. you're early on. So, it's possible that. these names help us or we grow into them. and they grow into us. And so, I. wouldn't change anything now. Um, but I. really did go through a number of years. where I also wanted jet black hair. >> Like, you know, I wanted like jet black. hair and I wanted my name to be like.

>> No, you were going to say I [laughter]. wanted my name to be jet black. >> Well, I would have taken that, too. Yeah, that would have been a good name. The name's black. Jet black. [laughter]. >> What do you do? I'm a podcaster. That's not too cool. Um, >> yeah, I would have, uh, I would have. gone with Jet. >> You wanted your name to be. >> I don't I just thought, you know, uh, I. used to look at sort of the conventional. people that were on television or. movies, whether it's, you know, from. Elvis movies or Bob Crane from Hogan's.

Heroes or like any of these people that. have like just black hair and they've. got that conventional good-looking face. And I was like, that's how I should. look. Yeah. >> What is this with this crazy reddish. qua? Why do I have this weird name? Why. do I have freckles? I hated having. freckles, you know. [laughter]. >> Yeah, true. Yeah. I had my two front. teeth were dead cuz I fell in the. driveway and they were dead for a while. Like they died. Like they turned gray. And my our dentist was like, you know, your other teeth show up. Just leave.

them. So I went around like, hi, you. look real pretty. >> I [laughter] had two gray front teeth. >> I got freckles. Were you also. ridiculously tall then too? >> No, no, no. I got tall super fast. >> At least you didn't have that also. [laughter]. >> But freakish would be a little. >> But Billy, I HAVE IT NOW. [laughter]. >> YES, BUT you're famous and it's like. fine. >> Well, I'm like Frankenstein. [laughter]. >> You're famous, Frankenstein. Be happy.

>> BUT YOU DON'T have the missing front. teeth and the weird, you know, hating of. yourself. And. >> well, I still have that. Um, but. >> okay, fair. [laughter] But you know, >> fair. You should hate yourself. >> Thanks for admitting that. >> You have a serious gift, which is this. height of yours and that you could play. a really scary guy. You could play You. could be stand up. >> Okay. [laughter]. >> This is humiliating. >> This guy. Look at this. Look at. this. [laughter]. >> Are you about to.

give me a break? THIS IS. [laughter] CRAZY. WAIT, SO WHAT AM I? Am I Frankenstein? Am I. >> No, you could be Slenderman. [laughter]. >> Don't you think? >> I don't. I can see it. >> You know, Slenderman. You come in here. and you're like, "Oh, Conan is so. talented." Oh, really? My humor, my wit. No, you're freakish size. YOU COULD BE. SLENDER. >> YOU HAVE SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY. You have. such an amazing opportunity. [laughter]. You could be so scary, dude. Dude, dude,

you could. It's during October this. year. You should come here. You should. wear something spooky and you should. scare these people. >> Okay, here's what I'm going to do. We're. going to contrive away. I will I will do. it. And we just have to figure out a way. that I I creep up on you in the. background as [laughter] Slenderman. >> Do you know what I mean? We just have to. figure that out. We'll do that. >> Play like a skin walker. I mean, your. pants [laughter] are tight already. Just. Just get some tighter pants. >> They barely need to be very much.

tighter. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? PANTS ARE THAT TIGHT. >> Your your pants are so [laughter] tight. >> These are tight pants. >> for for the. >> Are they? They're very tight. >> They're very tight. >> He wore jeggings once. Maybe he goes. back to jegging. >> The Kardashians dared me to wear. jeggings, I think. Didn't they? And I. wore jeggings. >> You did wear jeggings? >> Yeah, that was horrible. Um, [laughter]. there's a reason my children don't talk. to me. >> Oh god. >> Okay, so that's great. What an ego boost. for me. Yes, my career is going places. cuz Billy Iish says I could be.

Slenderman. >> uh or any freakishly tall monster. >> You really could play such a good. monster. >> or a zombie and just don't moisturize. for a day. >> and I could play the undead. >> All right, you heard it here first. I'll. be showing up at a Halloween theme park. near you. >> Oh my god. Oh my god. Have you guys been. to Halloween Horror Nights by chance? >> Yes. >> Okay. [laughter]. >> Yes, I've done Halloween night. It. traumatized me. >> Why did it traumatize you? >> Well, I went when I was like I was. younger. Did you go recently?

>> I go every year, girl. >> You do? Yeah, of course I go. >> Halloween Horror Nights is no joke. Like, they're legit makeup. The actors. are really into it. >> They chase you. They'll like chase you. out of a house with a chainsaw. >> Yeah, >> it's gotten more It's gotten more PG. >> Oh, that's weak. Sorry. It's just not. They don't really chase you like they. used to. They kind of just stand there. and go, you know, and that's it. But. anyway, if you've gone recently, they do. this thing to kind of make it like a. more 4D experience where they they like.

pump scent in certain rooms, like really. gross scent to make you really. overwhelmed with the grossness of the. So, like if you walk into one of the, you know, rooms during the maze and it's. like bunch of sliced up people and. whatever and it'll smell like this like. rotting person smell. It's disgusting. It's amazing. [laughter] I love it. But. I. I'm not even going to I'm going to say.

bless her soul and I'm not going to put. this woman and shout this woman out, but. I was somewhere doing something and I. was with this woman and she smelled. exactly like the Horror Nights scent. [laughter]. >> and and she kept like, I know this. woman, right? and and she [laughter] was. leaning over. I was sitting she was. leaning over and she was, you know, doing things and I was literally like. and I and because I'm me and I don't.

think really before I say things, I. almost was like, you know, you smell. exactly like the [laughter] Halloween. hornets. bodies. >> But so yeah, so like and I was texting. everyone else in the room like, "Doesn't. this smell like the rotting corpse. scent that they spray?". >> I think we can tell people it's Joy. Behar from the [laughter] view. always smelled like rotting meat. And I. love her. I love you, Joy. There's no. one funnier. But no one will tell her to. her face. [laughter]. >> Wait, is this true? >> No, I'm No. This is how rumors get.

started. >> Yeah, but like the first thing I notice. is smell. So if you stink once forever, that's how I will think of you. >> I took seven baths before you got here. [laughter]. >> Oh, do you take baths? You can't fit. into a bath. >> No, I don't. I have terrible [laughter]. I feel terribly about myself now. WHEN. DID YOU BECOME A FREAK? AT WHAT age did. you become a freak? YOU CAN'T HAVE A. BATH. [laughter] DOES the US Army have. to make you a bathtub and bring it in. with helicopters? [laughter].

>> What are you talking about? Um, no. I do. not take a lot of baths because my knees. always stick up. [laughter]. >> So, she was I am. You're right. I'm. insulted. And you're right. I'm very. short and I have an enormous math and I. can barely fit in the bath. because. >> we should trade bathtubs. We should. trade bathtubs. >> Let's do it. That's why honestly that's. why I brought it up [laughter]. >> cuz I cannot fit in my bathtub. >> So, you're not here to promote anything. You're here to find out if my bathtub.

fits cuz yours doesn't and mine doesn't. And we're going to switch. I literally. drown in that Um, [laughter]. >> these are the problems that you have to. face. >> Do you fit into your bed? [laughter]. >> Well, my wife is there too somewhere. It's a pretty good size bed. >> Like shack beds, right? >> No, I don't have a shack bed. I'm a. human being. [laughter] Um, I uh I don't.

have a shack bed. We have one of those. things you see in the Poconos. It has a. giant It's a giant heart and it rotates. [laughter]. And I every night I put I put rose. petals on it and I go Liza my dear. [laughter]. and she's like no uh so um no we have. like a you know a big bed but uh yeah we. fit in our beds and I am allowed to. drive a conventional car. >> I wish it was a Hyundai but apparently. it's [laughter] not. Um okay I want to. talk about you said something else. I.

was reading because I was reading up on. you. I was like, "Okay, I want to have. some good topics." And you were talking. about how you really enjoy hanging out, just like hanging out. And I was. wondering, "What is a good hang. >> for Billy Eyish? What's a good hang for. you? What do you like to do if it's you. and your friends and you're just hanging. out?". >> I love to go on bike rides so much. Just. a and with an electric bike. I'm not. doing any kind of working out really, right, >> with the bikes cuz also I live in a very. hilly area so it's a lot of up and down. >> I'm a big believer in ebikes. I think.

they're cool. >> Love an ebike. Um, and I use this. company called Super 73, which is these. like big bulky. It's amazing. Um, I love. going on bike rides. I love going on a. dog walk. I love swimming in my pool. I. love specifically like any kind of. activity that like you might find at. like a kids summer camp. Like any kind. like on tour, we'll be like in the most. beautiful place in the world. And I'm. like, can we please go to a water park. or can we go to a ropes course or a.

trampoline farm or like we did a lot of. we did a few like glass blowing classes. and pottery making classes. >> Well, that sounds like. >> I love activities. >> You like activities? I like an activity. Um, I also like uh I'm just trying to. think what I don't what I I don't love. that much is playing a game sometimes. because it triggers some part of my. brain. >> that gets worried. You know, if I'm. playing a game that I'll misremember the.

rules or I'll screw up. I know it's a. problem. I need to get over that. >> Do you like any games or no? >> Um, uh, that's a good question. >> This is interesting. >> No, I don't know. I don't I think I'm. just not a games person. And people will. say to me, "Hey, let's play this." I. mean, I do games on my own, like puzzles. or crosswords or things like that, but. when it's a group of people, and they. say, "Hey, let's break out this board. game and play.". >> Oh, same. >> I'm kind of a little phobic about it. I. don't know what that is. >> Competitive. My thing is I get. >> Oh, she's crazy competitive.

>> I like lose friends. >> Same. But I like that. So you So that's. interesting because I love games and I'm. ridiculously competitive. But so you you. don't like games cuz you're really. competitive. >> cuz I I I don't know if you just get too. about it too. And if anybody on my team. is just dragging us down, >> I just want to [laughter] relate. >> I know. I've seen her. She's one of. those she's one of those people that. just in a blink of an eye sees red.

>> and descends into madness. >> We're talking about games. You're. talking about life. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> I'm just saying games. >> Oh, I was saying you're like a jackal. hide. You're a I think you're a. murderer. I [laughter] think. >> Yeah. No, I cross over, you know. >> Yeah. >> What about like sport type game? Cuz we. play a lot of like pickle ball and I get. really I'm very competitive with with. sports activities. >> Same. No, I'm competitive, too. Are you. not competitive? >> I'm competitive. I try and hide it, but. then I'm very competitive. >> I feel like that's part I can't tell. >> I can't play pickle ball because I think.

I'm too tall. And this fits into your. whole idea that I don't fit in this. world. [laughter]. >> But you got to bend over and like take. these different shots. And I I think I. wasn't MEANT FOR THIS PLANET. [laughter]. >> I FEEL like I feel like you it would. help you because you're so tall. I mean, literally, we were playing yesterday and. Phineas laughed really hard because I. and our friend Lucy are we were both. both very short and we were both just. playing one-on-one and he he cracked up. because he was like, "You both are so. short that you have to step so.

many times to get to each side. We have. to I have to literally run full speed. >> He can't short shame you. That's wrong. >> He sure can. Well, I'm going to talk to. him. Yeah. And maybe I'll only lift. >> the ban on Phineas coming in here. If he. apologizes to you, he's banned. He's. banned until he apologizes for mocking. you. [laughter]. >> I know which side to take here. >> Thanks. >> Um, okay. So, let's talk about the movie. because the movie's out now. >> Um, [laughter].

>> Oh, yeah. >> I have a little note that says, "When. this drops, the movie will have been out. for a day." Wow, people sure love the. movie. Wink. Um, [laughter]. but uh, hit me hard and soft. This is. This movie is stunning to me for a. couple of reasons. One, uh, you. co-directed this with James Cameron. That's insane. To have him direct it is. insane. Uh, but then to get a to be a. co-director with this guy is nuts. It's.

great. >> I know. It's insane. It was also his. idea to have that be the case, which is. insane. Like he the way it came about is. my mother like met him through something. else and then like one day came over and. was like, "Oh, by the way, James Cameron. emailed me and I. >> super casual.". >> What? But [laughter] also like we have a. whole team of people whose job it is. >> Your mom can get through all this level. of [laughter]. >> people. I'm just like he emailed you. >> Yeah. Um, >> your mom booked you on this podcast.

Your team was like, "Don't do Conan.". And [laughter] then your mom's like, "GO. OVER TO CONAN.". >> OH, GOD. So real. But, um, anyway, she. was like, "Yeah, James Cameron emailed. me as saying he wanted to like asking if. you would be interested in him filming. your movie and putting it out as a or. filming your concert and putting it out. as a movie in 3D." Like, that was the. ask. the the not even ask like just like. interesting at all like at all and.

obviously I thought that's the most. insane unbelievable thought even at all. I was like what what yeah. >> um and then I got on the phone with him. and we just like talked about it and. what was so special to me was. [clears throat] like I've filmed concert. films before and they've been amazing. I've done documentaries. It's all. amazing and honestly it is a lot of work. and I was not planning on doing that for. this tour. >> and the tour was like coming to an end. in a few months and like I remember.

feeling like oh this is sad that I'm not. going to have this show document. like I was really feeling like oh that's. kind of sad but also like what am I. going to do you know it's I'm not going. to film it I'm not there's nothing. really I don't have any ideas for. something anyway so it was kind of. Perfect. Obviously, it's also an. insanely incredible thing and. opportunity, but I was also like, >> "Fuck yeah, I want to be able to watch. this show forever. This is like my.

favorite show I've ever done and I was. so proud of it and felt. >> just so good up there and it's just it. was just a really good show and I I'm. like I was so excited." So, that's like. the beginning of it and then like he. wanted to co-direct it with me. we met. He came to my show in Australia and then. um and one of the the biggest parts of. the process that's been really special. to me is I like when I first started. talking to him, I said very flat out. like I have no interest in changing the.

show at all for this. I don't want to. modify anything. I don't want to hear. any notes. Like I love you. You're. amazing. But and he he like kind of had. already made that clear like he felt the. exact same way and I really was like. surprised by that. He was like, "No, I. don't want to change anything.". >> He didn't want the concert to hit an. iceberg about [laughter]. an hour in. He's just he's stuck in a. rut and then he wanted the Naui people. to come in and [laughter] fight the. iceberg.

>> But you So you I'm glad you got him off. that cuz he's so he's so stuck. Um I. know. >> But here's the amazing thing. He always. he always loves to and he did this with. uh Amy with Titanic. He did it with uh. the Avatar films. He always likes to. bring this new technology to it. And I'm. imagining that I I think that's part of. what he's doing here is I would think he. would say like, "Wait, I've got I've got. a camera that I can use. It's never been. used cuz I know it's in 3D, but I'm.

guessing it's not in. >> the 3D that I grew up with.". >> Probably not. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No, [laughter] I mean, >> thank God. >> It's like it's pretty insane to see. Like, and I do remember throughout. filming it, he would be like, you know, this technology has never been used. before. Like, we were using. >> things that literally it was the first. time they were used, which was such an. insane idea. Yeah. >> And to have James Cameron be the one. doing that. And also like it was.

[laughter] very very surreal because we. were, you know, on tour and that's a. that's a very normal thing we're all. used to being on at this point in the in. the tour. And like, you know, he's like, I want to film some of your warm-up. I'm. like, okay. And so I I'm like doing the. thing I always do. I'm in my room with. my like I'm wearing like boxers and a. t-shirt doing my warmup and getting my. ankles taped for the show. And James. Cameron himself alone with an enormous.

3D camera literally like [laughter] this. is walking in himself and he sits like. right [laughter] here in front of me and. he's asking me the questions and he's. the one standing there and then there's. like four dudes that walk in that are. like holding the boom and the lighting. and I just like it was the most trippy. in the world. It was just like what. am I looking at? >> Like wherever he goes. [laughter]. >> He's like, "Hey, James, YOU CAN COME TO. OUR BARBECUE." And then he shows up and. he's got a nine-dimensional camera on.

>> Like exactly what you would imagine him. looking like, >> just standing there with a camera on. him. >> There's this moment in um and it's I've. had staff members here who are, you. know, huge fans who because I know it's. in the movie, but they've also seen it. they seen it on the tour and they talked. about it and I was really intrigued by. this because you have this moment where. you get I mean you're these are huge. shows you get everyone to be absolutely. silent.

>> and that's very riveting. >> to me that first of all to have. >> fans that will do that. >> I know. >> is in it shows a real there's a mutual. respect uh and I think for you to be in. an arena that's filled with that many. people and ask everyone to get. absolutely quiet and then you uh create. this musical moment with them not saying. a word is stunning. And what I love.

about it is yes, there's going to be. this great technology uh and there's. going to be all these amazing angles, but people also I think get to see up. close what it is you do that is. different. I think that's pretty. amazing. >> Thanks, Conan. That's so well said and. nice of you to say. Um, >> at that moment, when did you start to. realize, okay, I'm gonna go for this? Because, >> well, like you said, like when we. thought when we had that idea in the.

rehearsal period of the tour, >> I really was like, I do not think this. is going to work. Like, how am I going. to get the entire room to be silent? And. you know, it's not like, you know, somewhat quiet. It's like it has to be. like nothing at all because what's. happening is in my mic, I am singing one. part and then it's looping and I'm. singing another part and that's looping. and I'm singing another part and then. that's looping. So, you're building it.

in real time. >> Fully building it in real time by. recording. And so, and also like because I sing not like. very loud, the mic is like pretty hot. and so it really picks up a lot. And. there was [gasps] there was one time I. don't know where we were. It was. honestly one of like five times in the. entire 106 show tour of Hit Me Hard and. Soft that they weren't quiet. And the.

only thing that happened was everyone. was quiet except this voice. Billy, GIVE ME A [laughter]. >> OH NO. >> OOPSY. >> That sucks. >> Now I thought it was funny. I really. >> No. No. It is. It is. But it's also just. >> Holy And then that was in the loop. and so every I'm like. a [laughter]. real got picked up by the recording. >> It just was repeating over and over. >> Well, it was a number one hit. [laughter].

>> And now the GUY'S LIKE, "WHERE'S MY. MONEY? BUT ASIDE FROM. >> I'M SAM. [laughter]. >> Oh god. that literally the only time. that really ever happened because their. fans are so and that was just like some. guy you know. >> but also you know that the people around. him were like. >> oh he got completely. I mean it he got shamed by the entire. audience and I think like this is. something about my crowd and my fans. that I love so much which is like their.

complete devotion and also like. >> their willingness to fight for what they. believe in and what they love and me and. you know really defend me and like the. fact that they are all. respectful enough to be completely. silent for an entire minute while I'm. singing and not make any noise, not sing. along, not say anything, not want the. attention. Like it's really really. beautiful. And also like. >> I was so sure it wasn't going to work.

out. I've never tried anything like. that. It's scary. >> It's so scary. And at the first show we. did, we were in Quebec. It was the first. show of the entire tour and they were. completely silent. And then I was like, "Okay, well that's the only time that's. going to work." And then it. worked every single time except that one. time and a couple times where they were. just rowdy and screaming, but pretty. much for the most part. And also like. the fact that I was asking them to do. that is insane. It's an insane request. and I was. >> I think uh I think you have this. [laughter].

>> an apple. >> Turns out he's like a neurologist. >> Oh no. [laughter] Oh. >> Uh 44 neurologist. >> Oh my god. >> Uh yeah, I've actually led the field in. uh cereble cortex therapy. >> He doesn't know. [laughter]. >> What happened? I don't know. I had a. tequila. I lost it. >> Oh god. >> Uh but um I think that. >> No, not. poor guy. Not poor [laughter] guy. We're. going to find him. >> Um he's also banned. He's banned and. Phineas is banned.

>> The only two [laughter]. >> and Phineas. >> The only two. Yeah. Um, I think it's a. tribute to you that your fans, you know, that guy excluded. Your fans. know you. >> They know you and they're not knowing. this idea of who you are. That's who you. are. >> I mean, that's what I've the the two. times you've been here and we're hanging. out. >> Yeah. >> And I'm refusing to play a game. Um, [laughter]. when you're here, I can see that. Oh,

that's Billy. That's just who you are. and your fans know that. There are a lot. of people in your business or just show. business in general who and I see it a. lot in comedy. There's. >> people love the idea of them that. they've constructed, but that's not. really who they are. >> Yeah. >> And so I I think that's a credit to you. that yes, it can work. There's a lot of. people it wouldn't work for because. their fans don't have that relationship. with them. >> So I think it's really amazing. I think.

it's cool. And also the whole concept of. so much of show business, especially um. in comedy and in music, is make noise. and keep the noise going. And people are. afraid of I got to keep the energy up. We got to keep it going. And that's so. much of it that for someone to come out. and say, "Okay, everyone be absolutely. silent. I'm going to try something.". >> Mhm. >> Is very unusual. >> I know. And they really play along, which I find so beautiful and also. really surprising. And they're they're. like that throughout the show, too. Like.

they're so so willing and up for. anything that I want them to do. And. they it just it's just amazing. They're. they are so wonderful. And I do think. like, you know, what you just said about. me being me and that's who they know. It's like it's true. I think like. I I I kind of attribute that to. starting out at as as 13, you know, and.

being the person I was already, which is. like always very honest and bold and. like says anything kind of. >> I was already like that. So, I didn't. think any I didn't think to do anything. else. And I was so young. I was just. like saying anything all the time and. being myself. Like I didn't know who. else to be. >> Yeah. And like even when I kind of like. sometimes wish that I maybe hadn't. shared so much of who I am, I am really. glad that I did. And also and that I do. because one of my main goals and I talk.

about this in the film a little bit, but. like I can't stress it enough that like. one of my main goals as starting out was. that I wanted to be the artist that I. that I would want to be a fan of. And. that's because I am a fan. I am a huge. fan. And I always have been and I've. always been a super fan. Not just like, oh, I like artists and I like the. whatever. It was like posters and merch. and, you know, if I could have gone to a. concert, I would have and I couldn't. because, you know, I couldn't afford it.

But it was like merch concerts or. merch. [laughter]. I'm like, I couldn't go. >> I couldn't. No, but um. >> now you're banned. >> Yeah. [laughter] Can't I can't remember. And now that you you're out. >> What the hell I was saying? Um, but I. was going to say that I like. if there's one piece of advice that I. can give like younger artists or new. artists and the thing that I have given.

to people like if anyone starting out. asks me which has only happened a few. times like what I would say my one piece. of advice actually two is like play. smaller venues than you think you should. or than people are telling you to and. get a serious serious ious connection to. your fans and be your fans. family. Like that is the number one. thing in my career that I will always. keep number one in the priority list. And like it's all that it that's all.

that started and cuz it was me. I was. like saw myself in these kids and wanted. to do everything that I when I was 12. used to think like oh my god I why can't. my favorite artist do this and why why. can't they make it easier for us to see. this you know and so I've really strived. to be that for them and like be. reachable and feel like they feel like. we are one and like they don't feel.

separated from me and like I don't want. to be known by them or know them, you. know, like I want them to feel like we. are friends and that if I'm out in the. world, you know, and like be respectful, of course, but but but like when I'm out. in the world and I make eye contact with. someone, like this has happened before. and they just like smile at me and I. smile at them and they run up to me and. we hug. Like that has happened before. because it's just the connection is just. there. We don't have to say anything. we. just like and and you don't have to be.

afraid of me, you know, >> that you know there's a there's a part. of the movie where you're talking about. >> cuz you're very tactile. You're you go. out, you you're touching a lot of the. fans and you get scratches on your hands. >> from your fans just because they're so. excited to lay hands on you and you're. willing to do that. And I'm thinking. it's it's not great that you're getting. scratched up, but at the same time,

you're letting them know it's real, right? >> Like this isn't an act. I'm not. >> a hologram image that's been projected. I really. >> uh this is who I am. This is what I care. about. You guys are part of my crew and. we're in on this together. >> Yeah. >> Which is I I mean I've always felt. that's the way it has to be even though. I work in a completely different world. I think. I'm I look for any opportunity to let. people out in the world know that like. it or not, for good or ill, this is who. I am. >> Yeah.

>> Um and. >> such a great quality. >> But I mean that's I think really uh. really key. I don't know, you know, there might come a day where you're like. enough with the scratching of the hands, [laughter] you know, but. >> yes, it's it can be a lot. I mean, also. because it's like the trajectory of. things has gotten so much bigger over. the years that at this point it's not. only fans in the crowd. >> sometimes like it's sometimes it's a. little bit like it can be a little bit. dangerous.

>> but the thing is like I don't want to be. out of reach like physically and you. know mentally like I want I want them to. feel like I am right there with them. Um, and so it's like it's it's a hard. balance because for a long time it was. pretty easy to do that. Like I when I. was first doing shows every single show, no matter what, I would get off stage, walk straight into the audience and meet. every single person in the room and like. take pictures with everyone, talk to. everyone and sign anything. Like I never.

it would take hours and hours and it. would be like hundreds of people and it. was like not paid. It was nothing. I. just I wanted to meet everyone. Well, it's also it's staying true that that's. a real connection. >> It doesn't have to be recorded. No one. has to see it. You know it's real. They. know it's real. And that's um. responsible for so much. That's a big. part of. >> everything that's happened for you. >> I know. >> But I mean, it's hard to explain that to. people that. >> you used to get when you first started. working with me, you would get upset.

that I would hang out in the crowd so. long afterwards. Or was it safe? Well, when they get crazy. I mean, I'm sure. there's been some situations for you. where it's been hairy. It's the same for. you. It's It's can get scary for the. people around you who love you, who care. about you, who want you to be safe. It. can get nuts. >> And I'm acknowledging right now, >> whatever I've gone through, Billy has. that times a million because [laughter]. it's a very different connection. And I. mean people it's so what I've. experienced is people get really excited.

but they they really like some goofy. video that I made [laughter]. 28 years ago. Uh which is nice. I really. love that. But you have to walk that. line now where you can't walk into the. arena and say I'm going to hang with all. of you for 15 days. >> Um [laughter] and get and so. >> yeah it's been hard to figure out how to. have the connection with them. It's fun. cuz in the movie there's a part where. you're like literally seeing your fans. that are camped out and you're behind a. window and you're banging on the glass.

and I can relate to you're excited to. bond with them. >> So you're trying to you're trying to let. them and they're so excited that you're. banging on a window and they can see you. and you can see them. It's just nice. I. mean people always try and pretend that. this is more complicated than it is. It's really simple. The reason you. started doing this is you wanted you had. something that you wanted to share with. people and you wanted that connection. and it's real and now you can change the. scale of it. You can have James Cameron.

You can have futuristic cameras. You can. have. >> 15 million people coming to a concert. and 8 billion downloads. It's still the. same thing. The scale changed, but it's. the same thing, >> right? >> And it's also like with that exact idea, it's like. >> you can have boundaries also. It's like. you don't have to. I think I used to. give my. >> so much of myself to that that like I. kind of hit a wall where I felt like I. lost part of myself a little bit cuz I'd. given so much of it to them. And as much.

as I loved doing it, I was like, whoa, this is like really affecting me. And I. Yeah, it's And also like again when it. got to a larger scale, it got a little. less human somehow. Like people started. >> treating me less like a human. Um, which. I get. It's like seeing Big Bear. Bigfoot. >> Big Bear. [laughter]. >> So Bigfoot. >> No, they ski. trail at Big Bear. >> Listen, listen. [laughter] No food in my. body. Just one coffee and an SSRI. Don't.

worry about it. [laughter]. Anyway, >> hey, but this is real, man. This is you. [laughter]. >> But I mean, that's uh Yeah, that's. that's one of the things too that um I. see it in comedy. People get obsessed. with I played an arena and I think that. doesn't look fun. [laughter] Like. >> I like it. There's a certain magical. size where and I think it's it's. obviously very different in music. You.

can you music is quite different and I. think sometimes comedians get confused a. little bit because they think I want to. be a rockstar comedian and obviously. some of them can do it brilliantly. I. think Kevin Hart can do it brilliantly. and Eddie Murphy, there's different. people that can go into an arena and. they're fantastic. And then I always. think for a lot of us there's just the. right size, >> you know, which can be uh, you know, okay, 1500 people or something like. that, but once it starts to get to be.

more than that, >> it's hard to feel close. >> Yeah, it's hard to feel close. And I do. think music is better on a larger scale. than than just saying. >> you know? >> Yeah, I think so. >> Yeah, I get what you mean, though, cuz I. had the same kind of feeling for many. years. I was like, I don't want to play. arenas cuz then I'm going to be far away. from everyone and not feel like it's. intimate at all. I feel like for comedy, it's like different because. >> you're standing there talking to them. So, it's like really a harder thing on a.

larger scale. you start to lose like. this if it gets really big and I'm not. one of those kinds of comedians but I. think that you might at some point lose. that. >> that spark of immediacy. >> if the scale gets too big um and again. there are special people that can really. do it beautifully and I think I'm always. craving. >> you know um sometimes when I see that. the venue is really big I'm like uh I. don't know if I'm going to have that. same conversational.

>> uh thing going. But. >> again, it's very different in music. And. I think um all comics wish they were. rock stars. They just do. And me. included. We all wish. [laughter] We all. w we all look at music and we all kind. of try and pretend that that's what we. are and we're not. And then occasionally. I'll I'll meet these like iconic. musicians who are like, I really wish I. could be have a talk show. And I'm like, [laughter].

really? You want to you want to wrap it. up with Al Roker and go to a commercial? Um, no, I really do. Um, well, I'm. really excited for you. Uh, hit me hard. and soft. Uh, and this is co-directed. with you, James Cameron. That's insane. [laughter]. >> Um, just madness cuz I have offered him. a co-directing thing with me many times. Yeah. And he's so far no call back. [laughter]. >> So maybe he's banned too from the pod. Um, I'm going to say that I uh have.

great admiration for you as an artist, but um I feel a real connection to you. as a person. I I I really proud of you. It's such a weird thing to say, but I. feel like I'm like a you're probably. your dad's age or something, but I have. this like pride in like, well, Billy's. doing a good job. It's like, well, [laughter] who am I to take any other. than I I wrote that big song for you? Uh, >> right. a feather. I did pretty much most.

of your catalog easily the [laughter]. things that I. just saying and we're going to settle. this out of court. >> Um [laughter]. >> I love the judge asking for any proof. >> and I'm just like I'm pretty sure I uh. she said and then he said you're just. doing [laughter] business. >> No, I'm I'm very I'm very happy for you. I'm very proud of you. You're welcome. here anytime. Phineas is welcome here. anytime. give my best to your folks and. I just um you're a huge deal and so you. coming in and just sharing your talent.

and your wit and just your spirit with. us is a really cool thing. >> Thank you so much. I love coming here so. much. I will literally come back as many. times as you want. >> Well, we have we have a Hyundai and a. Bedet [laughter]. sponsorship. Now, here's Billy Isish for. the Lux Bedet. [laughter]. >> Hi, guys. BUT YOU'VE HAD A HUGE MEAL. [laughter]. >> But I I thank you for saying all of. that. It It's unnecessary and I It means.

so much to me and you guys are all. awesome. I love the vibe in here. I was. just saying the other day that I just I. live to laugh and I love when I meet. people that live to laugh, you know? Just amazing. I hate people that don't. laugh. Just so Can you imagine? >> I hate when people don't laugh cuz it. means I don't get paid. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. >> And that's it. You know, it that's that. is my language. Like when people don't. laugh, I'm like, "Oh, I I guess I don't. have a reason to live anymore.". >> But it's so wonderful in here that all. these people are just We're all just.

laughing at everything. It's just. amazing. God, >> it's just what life is about. But thank. you for having me. And I'm I'm. >> Yeah, it was a big We really It was a. big. >> It was really big of us to have you. I'm. [laughter] just going to say You. probably didn't see that. >> No, IT WAS. >> I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO COMPLIMENT, BILLY. >> I was like, I don't know. I did say, "Is. she still in the business?" [laughter]. >> I mean, how's it going for her? You were. like, "What are you talking about?" And. I was like, "I don't know. [laughter] I. pretty much know what's going on with. young people." And [screaming] I don't.

think she's doing so good. [laughter]. >> I'm an idiot. But thank you for being. here. And say hey to your gang for me. >> I will. We all love you so much, and I. feel the same.