Selects: The Duality of Caffeine | STUFF YOU SHOULD KNOW

hi everybody it's your friendly. neighborhood co-host Charles W Chuck. Bryant here we're going to take you back. in time to January 14th 2016 when we. spoke at length about caffeine and the. UPS literally and the Downs literally. it's called The Duality of caffeine I. hope you enjoy over your cup of. [Music]. coffee welcome to you should know a.

production of iHeart. [Music]. Radio hey and welcome to the podcast I'm. Josh Clark there's Charles W Chuck. Bryant Jerry's over there totally. throwing us off with some new Hocus. Pocus. 2016 head stuff what yeah yeah she's. messing with it uh so we you guys don't. know this cuz through the power of the. magic of editing and Publishing and.

Publishing you think we've just never. been gone from the office yeah but we've. been gone I have no idea what episodes. we released I've been so out of it yeah. I took uh 6 weeks of paternity leave woo. and I did by proxy and you did by proxy. yeah uh so we've been gone from the. studio for a while and just wanted to. say it's glad to be back buddy yeah it. is nice to be back buddy and uh it's. good to see you again it's been a long. time I what happened in the in the.

meantime I lost another tooth yeah my. stupid front the the tooth next to the. one that came out broke. off at a Falcon game oh well there you. go God was cursing you for being at the. Falcons so I have another stupid flipper. and another eight months of eight months. really yeah until I get the permanent. implant so again I'll be out on tour. with no tooth you can't even see it like. you have to literally like P your gums.

back or your lips back to your gums or. if I laugh a lot which I'm trying to. just lead a more somber life well I plan. on making you laugh a lot on stage so. people might see it then uh what else. you got a dog yeah we got a puppy named. Momo you want to talk about Momo Momo is. very sweet she's a sweet little shiu. poodle mixture how's that going she's a. little fluff ball very good house. trained or Shar yes right off the bat we. um we crate trained her and at first I. was like crates are mean you should put. a dog in crate and then I started to.

read up on it it's like yes it's like. her Den it's her little room like her. bedroom in fact when we took away the. crate from our youngest dog Charlie. because of uh we needed a a breakfast. nook um she was kind of like dude you. took my room away yeah that was my room. yeah we plan to keep her crate around. like as long as she wants it but just. she won't be penned in it uh against her. will at certain times until until she's. house broken which I I mean she's. basically there it's just we're we're. like what are you doing you're about to.

pee you know right right um she doesn't. actually have accidents in the house. we're just you know staying on top of it. it's great what else happened uh we had. holidays yes good Christmas and New. Year's I guess yeah yumi's birthday oh. had birthday yeah um and uh it was just. a nice time off like I had this big. to-do list yeah and uh none of it got. done cuz it was raising a puppy replaced. that yeah how's your kid uh Ruby's great. man and I did the same thing I had a big.

to-do list and found myself just kind of. being like I could you do this or I. could just like play with my kid right. or watch uh making a murderer yeah I did. watch all that did you same here in like. a day we'll talk about that we probably. shouldn't talk about it people want us. to do a podcast on that I know like a. followup maybe it's not as bad as the. requests to do a podcast on the uh the. case that serial covered I'm like I. think serial got that one covered I'm. not no no of course not I could maybe do.

a followup on making of Mur I think we. should revisit um exonerations and the. Innocence Project again because when we. did that one we had no idea what was. going on and now it's really like it's. really coming through true so yes let's. do that what else oh I've been playing a. lot of uh I got a PS4 oh yeah and I've. been playing Fallout 4 with the dog in. there dog companion well you can have a. dog companion so of course I chose it. okay but it's really awful cuz the dog.

gets hurt a lot and like struggles. around whimpering and bleeding do you. have to put it out of its misery ever. well no you can heal the dog but I went. to message boards and everyone's like. don't heal your dog like just trust me. it'll heal itself don't waste your. medicine oh okay yeah I'm sure you waste. your medicine every time don't you well. it yeah it's tough to hear the fake dog. wi yeah and it's like I'll be okay don't. mind me dog meat that's his. name so that's a that was a big time off. off we just covered was nice and that's.

all that happened Jerry how about you. that was great Jerry I'm glad you had a. nice time as well Jerry also had a nice. break with her little baby ANZ she told. us this through a series of blinks she. did that we've worked out over the years. yep nice job all right so sorry about. the long intro but it I felt like we. needed to catch everyone up even though. you didn't know that you needed it right. and maybe it has something to do with. caffeine cuz we did such a good job when.

we recorded those ones that we released. over the break of predicting things we. would be talking about at the time yeah. who could tell exactly so I'm a little. caffeinated right now believe it or not. what a shock um I don't drink nearly as. much coffee as I used to yeah it's. because I really realized like it really. does have a detrimental effect on like. my mood oh really say in the car car is. a really good oh sure example of me and. caffeine you're a little ramped up in. the car anyway so that probably does. help right well I'm working on that yeah.

but part of working on that is just you. know not drinking as much coffee yeah uh. I think a good title for this could be. mix messages because um in studying. caffeine and we did one on coffee we. dabbled in this a little bit but um all. the research. is you know caffeine can be really good. for you and help a lot of things and. caffeine can be kind of bad for you and. it's kind of both or can be both it sure. seems like that unless we have like a. completely. misunderstood um model of addiction yeah.

and um the parasympathetic or. sympathetic nervous system yeah unless. we don't know those things yeah then. yeah coffee is both for sure the weird. thing is like everybody realizes that. coffee or I'm sorry caffeine I think I'm. probably going to do that a lot this. episode yeah because they are virtually. interchangeable sure but it's not really. no but caffeine um it it it is it has a. lot of really bad effects on you and a. lot of people know that just from having.

experienced it you're right it's the. it's the beneficial effects that are so. surprising but they do seem to like you. say agreed so Chuck I drink today I've. had five cups of coffee and a m Diet. Mountain Dew and it is 1:40 in the. afternoon what time did you get up 7 7 8. 9 10 11 12 yes I'm counting on my. fingers got 6 and 1 half hours you 6 and. 1 half hours you've had five cups of. coffee in a Mountain Dew right and.

that's cutting back yes oh man yeah and. it's cutting back because I like this. afternoon I won't keep going oh so you. stop this is this will be my last. probably really for the day yeah oh okay. and I'm actually I'm above average for. the United States and I I could have. guessed that yeah but the the average. for the United States is actually on the. wuss end of the spectrum as far as like. caffeine consumption goes yeah I look. the latest information I got this that.

the US was 16th in the world in per. capita consumption yeah not even 10th or. ninth or any anywhere above 10th no no. 16th yeah uh if you want to know who. leads the world uh right now it I think. it's the Netherlands is what I found I. found Finland oh really uhhuh from. 2013 that was the most recent I saw well. the most recent I saw said the. Netherlands at 2.4 with Finland at 1.8.

really that is not what I saw really. yeah where were the Netherlands on your. list I don't remember I just saw the. that Finland was number one at like 2.4. oh wow and um like 9.6 kgr of coffee. beans per person per year consumed well. I bet the top 10 is kind of. interchangeable and fairly static though. sure as in the sameish countries yeah in. different orders yeah because I mean. coffee consumption. patterns I I guess they could change. fairly rapidly but they don't change in.

the blink of an eye well think about how. much Starbucks change coffee consumption. in this country did it ramp it up oh. yeah like think about how many people. now swing by Starbucks at like 300 p.m. whereas before they may not even have. drank coffee yeah don't mean. charbucks yeah yeah actually have no. skin in the game I like Starbucks yeah I. don't really well you know me I don't. drink caffeine that much no I know um. very mellow yeah I don't know I'm. starting to think I should drink more.

coffee though why because of the health. benefits oh yeah you know um we'll see. we'll get into all that but in the top. 10 you have uh Netherlands Finland. Sweden Denmark Germany Scandinavia loves. their coffee apparently yeah Slovakia. Serbia Czech Republic Poland Norway yeah. then eventually the US Cold countries. not bad although Brazil loves its coffee. as well I think they're like number 10. or 11 or something like that good coffee. I didn't see they weren't even in my top. 16 so we we had different lists made by.

two different caffeinated. weirdos uh so the US um the FDA and the. AMA right now I think they raised it to. 400 milligrams a day from 300 just in. the face of changing coffee consumption. yeah I think it's now up to 400. milligrams a day is they said should be. like the upper limit of what you should. drink and what is cool to drink for your. health right not by being cool you could. drink 100 cups a day and you'd be super.

cool right that's why I drink coffee so. much EX I want to be cool and so so what. is that 400 milligrams a day that's. about. two 8 O cups of coffee 400 is yes uh. like high high high octane right coffee. um but yeah it's no more than maybe. three well and that's caffeine though. that's not coffee right so you might. also be drinking sodas eating chocolate.

sure uh. or eating on a cocoa nib that's packed. with caffeine yeah yeah it does show up. in all sorts of surprising places um. including I looked this up decaf coffee. as well we should say yeah still got. some caffeine in there right yeah so. like a a a cup of coffee eight ounces of. coffee can have anywhere from like 75 to. 200ish milligrams of caffeine in it okay. decaf coffee still might have like 20.

Mig wow and I mean it doesn't sound like. much but if you're pounding decaf coffee. because you love coffee but you're. trying to cut back on caffeine stuff can. add up interesting yeah I knew there was. some caffeine but maybe that's not is. that. negligible uh I 20 itself just if you. drink one decaffeinated cup of coffee a. day yes okay I think on the overall. effects of your health it would be. negligible but both ways because again. the coffee giveth and the coffee t take. it away yeah sure does it's a.

double-edged drug yeah and it is a it is. a drug and is also in Te which we'll get. to as well um but yeah it's a drug it's. uh it naturally occurs like many drugs. uh but it is a stimulant called uh. trimethyl xanthine nice job uh chemical. formula. CH uh sorry c8h 1 0. N4. O2 not 02 I think there's a 10 in there. what did I say one zero yeah which I.

mean you know if you're on a CB or. something they get the point oh man this. this podcast thing is as close to CB. chatter as as you can come um I quick. segue here uh I used to love talking on. the CB CU my dad had one in his Jeep oh. yeah and remember when CB culture was. huge yeah in the 70s sure my buddy John. pendel now is a trucker MH you met John. where in at our New York shows tall. Johnny pendel uh uh he's a trucker now.

okay and I got to hang out and get in. his truck uh and he does not use a CB. and he said that he might get one but. it's not like the standard thing anymore. what is now texting no just cell phones. I mean he said if you really want to be. a part of that big trucker culture you. can do the CB still but you can just be. a lone wolf he's a lone wolf gotcha. right now he is he needs one of those um. jackets like Lenny and Squiggy used to. wear yeah it was fascinating though we. need to do an episode on trucking CU.

When I saw him all I did was ask. questions basically yeah it's. fascinating does he have his own rig no. he doesn't own it that means Truck Yeah. okay anyway well hey to Johnny and he. listens to the podcast now so hey Johnny. uh yeah you don't need a CB if you. listen to stuff you should know no we. are your CB we'll keep you company all. right so anyway caffeine he does drink a. lot of caffeine I think that's where I. was going with that yeah but that that. really had nothing to do with it I. brought up CBS cuz he said.

h10 why don't we take a. break and get our C legs back our P legs. we a little rusty and um p is in podcast. not urine I thought you meant urine oh. man thought you me oh hey I'll tell you. something about this break I learned. that there's something. called. mixu. synop and mixtion is a lot of people. think it means 2p no urin is to mixtion.

is the urge to PE syn is a fainting. spell so there's a condition out there. called mixtion syncope where people. faint after they pee wow there's also. one called defecation syncope where. people faint after they. poop and they have no idea why I think. Elvis had the most severe case of that. did all right well don't let that happen. to you during this break and we will be. back right after this. [Music].

[Applause]. [Music]. have we got it together that was like a. half a second are we good yeah I guess. so all right we're going to give it. another stab here so caffeine I think. that's what we were talking about it's a. drug and in its pure form Chu it is a. bitter bitter tasting crystalline powder.

that's right it's actually very closely. related at least in its effects to um. opio opioid antagonists like heroin yeah. cocaine yeah caffeine yeah um and I will. talk a little more about the the brain. the effects on the brain but it is um it. does have these effects and it does. basically this it uses the same. mechanism as these drugs and therefore. it can cause addictions just like these.

drugs as well yeah and um like I said it. occurs naturally it's in the Coffee Bean. and in chocolate and tea um but it's. also added uh artificially in things. like soda um and I looked up the sodas. to get the most recent um amount and. Pepsi 1 right now I think has the most. caffeine man do you remember jolt and. Vault I used to drink a ton of Vault I'm. sure you did I well I would drink one. right before the podcast remember and. then I'd just be like talking 1,000. miles an hour yeah the good old days.

I've settled down quite a bit you have. I'm happier for it uh Pepsi want at 57. milligrams tab is number two at 48 Diet. Coke 46 uh you will work your way down. to regular old Coca-Cola at 33. milligrams per 12 ounce can um and the. FDA regulates how much caffeine you can. put in a soda a soda a soda that's the. key that's right if you were an energy. drink um like Red Bull or uh any of. those other gross tasting things yeah I.

don't like them personally but people. love them I just don't like the taste. but um that's the workaround for the FDA. because they're not considered sodas. they can put lots of caffeine and sugar. uh to the tune of about 80. milligrams per um 8.3 o which you're. like in the case of Red Bull that's a. lot of caffeine it does seem like a lot. but some people love to take it even. further and there's like those 5our. energy shots oh yeah I have had those.

before those are twoo I have not tried. it before I don't know why I think I was. doing construction work and I was really. tired and I was at the Big Box store and. it was right there check out I was like. let me try this thing yeah and it it it. ramp me up I felt like a speed head so. in the in that little 2 O shot there's. 200 milligrams of of caffeine no wonder. like a high-end amount in a a coffee in. that little 2 O shot okay and I think. those are the.

like coffee has the most of any beverage. I think espresso ounce for ounce has the. most well I mean from the Coffee Bean at. least or espresso bean oh yeah not like. a an artificial drink is what I meant. yeah we we got an espresso maker and uh. it has some pronounced effects it's. crazy how different it is from coffee. yeah I like an espresso every now and. then and I like my coffee every now and. then yeah but just every now and then if. you want the health benefits though and. you're like I don't drink that much. coffee you should just be injecting pure.

caffeine. Chuck can you do that they do it to mice. yeah that's a good point as we'll see. later on um true uh I should probably. again it's been several weeks since. we've done this I need to probably throw. out a disclaimer there that was a joke. right to don't inject caffeine into your. blood if you can even get your hands on. your caffeine yeah do not inject it you. probably shouldn't inject anything let. alone the pure form of anything. because even too much water can kill you.

always remember that everybody even too. much water can kill you uh and I did. look into caffeine overdoses cuz I was. curious and it doesn't happen much. because you'd have to drink so much of. something yeah that it makes it unlikely. but there have been overdoses blamed on. caffeine pills like okay what's the. milligram amount what's the dosage. amount that it got oh I can't remember. this one kid died in Connecticut like a. 19-year-old. that I think he had like a dozen or two. dozen caffeine pills wow um and it's the.

I think the deal with caffeine pills. it's concentrated and it hits you all at. once yeah so taking a lot of it is just. like overdosing on any kind of stimulant. I think yeah it's a stimulant yeah it. does some weird stuff to you including. killing you and like you said chuggers. um we already talked about coffee in the. coffee episode right yes but it the some. of it Bears repeating like um the. lighter the roast the higher the. caffeine content typically. because the roasting process actually.

bakes out a lot of the caffeine I. thought you were going to make up a. clever rhyme like the lighter the roast. the darker the toast or. something no that's that doesn't make. any sense I know the Rhymes got to at. least make sense or else it's just. rhyming words how about how about uh the. lighter the roast more caffeine than. most how about that that's great that. actually makes sense and so if you want. to extract the most caffeine out of your. diet yeah actually came across a website.

called bulletproof exec you know that. Bulletproof Coffee thing where you put. like butter in your coffee it's like a. diet thing um I think it aids in pooping. and butter in your coffee yeah butter in. your coffee called bulletproof it's. actually not bad yeah if you like that. though take it one step further and use. um coconut oil oh okay that's even. better cuz it's got a little it's like. an Almond Joy creamer o wow but like an. oily version of it yeah anyway the this. bullet proof exec they had a post about.

maximizing your caffeine intake so you. can suck to your underlings throughout. the day or whatever most efficiently. right and um one of the things that they. said is that grapefruit you should eat. more grapefruit because grapefruit. contains something called um Naran or. Narin um and it actually slows the. removal of caffeine from your brain so. you enjoy its effects longer nice yeah. so a morning breakfast in the 1950s of.

coffee and a grap half a grapefruit it's. all you needed yeah and then your noon. cocaine bump right just to keep you. going just from drinking Coca-Cola yeah. exactly and um if you also if you want. to maximize your caffeine intake from. coffee you should look at the beans. you're drinking so Arabica which is I. think the most prevalent coffee um has. it's 1.5% caffeine but Robusta ooh 2.4%. that is Robusta as far as I know that's. the highest caffeine content naturally.

of any coffee bean so a light roast. Robusta is going to basically with your. grapefruit yeah you it it'll be like. getting kicked in the chest by a mule. wow and is doesn't that sound appealing. that's what every bulletproof exec wants. wow shows you how to be a more efficient. Robber. Baron so let's get down to this man uh. how how does caffeine actually affect. your brain because it does affect your. brain the whole point behind taking. coffee and stuff like that is as the guy.

who wrote this article oh the three guys. who wrote this article including you. yeah I did a little update on this I. forgot um it's it's using caffeine it's. a form of. self-medication of course that's why. most people drink it I think to get that. boost in the morning sure um or in the. middle of afternoon yeah and I'm sure. people love the taste and stuff it's not. like they're holding their nose and. forcing this drink down their throat. well that's what like 5H Hour Energy is. for those don't taste very good do they. not I've never tasted one I've always. wondered but I've never wanted to.

experience its effect so badly that I I. tasted it yeah I mean you know it's like. uh just that synthetic fruit taste does. it taste like medicinal at all yeah it. just tastes yeah it's just not good huh. in my opinion well it's just 2 ounces. you get it over with real quick right. yeah you just sock it down and like. you're done then punch of. wall uh so how does it work on the brain. it tricks your brain actually uh by. mimicking something called called. adenosine um and it's it's kind of.

remarkable actually because what it does. is it mimics adenosine and then does the. opposite yeah of what adenosine does. which is to try and help you sleep it's. pretty cool yeah so you have a sleep. wake cycle right part of the sleep cycle. is adenosine um latching on to the. adenosine receptors on your neurons and. sleepy yeah it does make you sleepy. because it slows the the the function of. your neurons down it's a it's a big buzz.

kill basically it's a drag adenosine is. well it's great sleep yeah it is it's it. helps make you sleepy and what caffeine. does is it gets in there to the same. receptor it binds to the same receptor. as adenosine um it it's because your. brain thinks it's adenosine yeah it puts. on its adenosine costume basically. pretty much which consists of like a. sparkly one piece jumpsuit it's a onesie. um and it it not only doesn't slow your. neurons down it apparently speeds them.

up yes so your brain starts going. HeyWire that's part one of what caffeine. does to your brain it not only doesn't. slow your brain down it prevents the. thing that does slow your brain down. from slowing your brain down and it. actually speeds your brain up it haywire. and not only that but adenosine um. usually well not usually adenosine. always causes your blood vessels to. dilate and caffeine causes them to. constrict uh which sounds bad but one of. the pluses and we'll get into the.

benefits but one of them is um. constricting it can it maybe help you. avoid headaches and migraines and that's. why caffeine is in things like Anison or. uh uh my My Old Reliable BC or goodies. headache powders that I use yeah uh. contain caffeine yeah that's my like. secret hangover helper BC powder BC or. goodies it just acts. fasta they work really well well both. together a little yeah I got you no yeah.

so caffeine is a Vaso constrictor right. that's right it it it constricts your. blood vessels and like you said that can. actually help your headaches because a. lot of headaches vascular headaches I. guess is what they're called or when. your blood vessels are too big and the. change in pressure in your brain gives. you this horrible headache right so. while this is happening your body thinks. these neurons are firing your pituitary. gland says You must be in trouble. yeah because you're supposed to be going. to sleep buddy yeah some there's clearly.

a bear coming at you that I don't know. about something's wrong so let's send. you some adrenaline uh we've talked. adnasium about fight ORF flight and your. body thinks that's what's going on when. you drink coffee so or caffeine right. and so it says here you need this. adrenaline because like you said you got. a bear coming your way right uh and all. the Hallmarks of fight ORF flight kick. in which man this used to be like our. go-to yeah yeah and now it's just such. an accepted part of everything that's.

right do we even need to say the things. anymore yeah go ahead okay so your. pupils dilate yeah your breathing um uh. becomes more rapid you get more breaths. um if you're eating something you stop. digesting it because your stomach. doesn't matter at that point that's. right. Superfluous um your blood pressure Rises. your liver releases sugar in the. bloodstream so you can get some extra. energy you're ready to go basically it's. like time for some action yeah and. that's why you drink that cup of coffee.

you might feel tense like you in the car. yes or agitated right uh it's because. your body thinks you're about to be in a. big fight with the car next to you yeah. which ends up it's a this weird reverse. cycle that ends up causing that fight. yeah you know what I'm saying you'll. also find if you drink a lot of coffee. like me there a big knot develops in. between your shoulder blades just just. below your neck nice um it it's just yet. another result of your muscles. tightening and you being ready for.

action thanks to the fight ORF flight. syndrome so your brain has been kept. from getting drowsy yeah uh it's been. sent into basically like a Lucy esque. assembly line of chocolates yeah um the. the figh ORF flight syndrome is kicked. in that that describes like a. significant amount of the effects of. coffee but there's a big one that's. missing still that we haven't touched on. and that is it's pleasurable effects it. makes you feel good yeah cuz it's a. stimulant and it's a drug and just like.

all the other illicit illegal drugs this. one is just accepted but it has the same. effect it's going to release dopamine. and that's the the pleasure Center. activation center right and it makes you. want more of it and so that dopamine's. flowing in and your body's like man this. is great yeah so it doesn't actually. it's like heroin and cocaine it doesn't. actually make you overproduce dopamine. but it keeps dopamine from being. absorbed as quickly so you get it's. effects longer and more than you would.

if you weren't under the influence of. the drug just like heroin Just Like. Cocaine caffeine again it uses the exact. same mechanism it's just to a weaker. degree which is why like again people. aren't shooting caffeine right is a bad. idea this uh we should point out varies. from person to person um the effects of. caffeine on the body because it um. metabolizes differently in everyone so. right some people might be like I don't. get jittery at all or I can go right to. sleep after coffee other people I'd like.

to see those people on an espresso shot. of Robusta yeah yeah I'll bet they. wouldn't be singing the same song um. other folks I used to wait tables um and. I would have people come in at. like like lunch and say like no no no no. I can't like their friend would get a. cup of coffee after they'd be like no no. no I'll be up all night yeah i' be like. are you. serious what did you say that too no I. would just yeah always think it was a. little weird but like I said it may keep. them up all night yeah that's their own.

Jam those people know their bodies so. don't don't just go with the decaf in. that case so we there are plenty of um. negative effects like keeping you up all. night as well as positive effects with. caffeine and we're going to talk about. those right after this. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].

all right so you've got the one two. three punch um your body is enjoying the. caffeine it's blocking that adenosine. you're going to feel alert and awake. right uh it's got that adrenaline going. and it's rewarding you with the dopamine. so it's going to make you want to drink. coffee but uh I mentioned the Vicious. Cycle it is a bit because after coffee. comes the inevitable crash right like.

any stimulant drug and you want more of. it um to get back up again so you're. going to have that fatigue and maybe. even slightly depressed feeling and then. you have a little bit more of that. caffeine and it's going to get you going. again and that's sort of the cycle that. you find yourself in which will. eventually even though you might not. think it is uh it's going to affect your. sleep patterns yeah that that that cycle. kind of continues on into the next day. right so coffee has a halflife of 6. hours caffeine caffeine yeah I told you.

I predicted this CH that's right um. caffeine has a half lifee of 6 hours. where if you drink a cup of coffee that. has 200 milligrams of caffeine um at. noon at 600 p.m you will still have 100. milligrams of caffeine in your system. that's right so it's like um at 6 you. drank uh a a Red Bull in a quarter right. then right not exactly what you want. and then at midnight you would have uh.

50 milligrams left which is like more. than a Coke that's like a Mountain Dew's. worth of uh caffeine in you again not. really what you want so as the the. authors of this article including you. point out you may fall asleep but that. caffeine stimulation is probably going. to keep you from getting deep sleep yeah. and deep sleep is what you really. genuinely need yeah and I think after. researching this reading that sentence I. went because I think like the light go. on basically like that that that is how.

I live my life is um I I don't sleep. deeply even though I sleep deeply I. don't think I get actual deep sleep you. know what I mean right so then you wake. up craving the caffeine again exactly. and that's where that cycle goes on and. on where you just it's really tough to. quit it yeah yeah it's very interesting. um if you are pregnant uh there are some. studies that suggest and we should say. there have been a lot of studies yeah. this article says like 19,000 since the.

60s I'm sure there's it's 20,000 by now. you know easily uh and they are somewhat. conflicting so we always are going to. say like this study suggest because they. aren't hard and fast rules right but if. you're pregnant uh some studies suggest. that 300 milligrams or more per day. could lead to low birth weight in your. little BB uh kids I read one article. like five experts talk about caffeine. and children and they all said that's. not great for kids no kids drink coffee.

these days but yes but in the form of. like those like coffee drinks that are. super sweet and creamy and everything. man but they drink like if walk around a. mall you'll you'll see like. eight-year-olds with like a coffee drink. just walking around like it's nothing I. went to the mall the other day for the. first time in probably 5 years yeah how. was it it was awful was it and I hated. every minute of it and I'm not going. back the mall's another place that it's. another thing that puts that like knot. in my back just too many people in one. place yeah it's no good and with the.

baby stroller it's just like I wanted to. put a spoon in my ear which mall uh I. went to Perimeter okay um I mean there. was a a we got new pillows so I was like. I had to go to the mall to get pillows. you know yeah cuz you got to put your. head on it even through the plastic case. oh yeah no I know I've been pillow. shopping you know what I mean times yep. new pillows are great though oh yeah if. you get a good one yeah I've been on a. bad lately with pillows where I've. gotten unless two I've got one wasn't.

very happy with it got a second one to. replace it not it's better but I'm still. not quite happy with it do you just use. one pillow uh-huh really one soft pillow. wow yeah anything else I'm like Oh my. neck I got to have one under my head I. got to have one behind my head between. my head and the headboard and then one. tied to your face no and then a clutch. you know to to hold on to okay like to. wrap up with wow it's the best yeah yeah.

that's three. pillows yeah you sleep with three. pillows Emily and yeah six total Jerry. tell us in blinks how many pillows you. sleep. with three three as well I think you're. under pillowed I guess so I sleep with. onethird the pillows you do here's a. pillow tip though if you're buying just. uh wait for a Mac's One Day Sale oh yeah. cuz pillows are expensive good ones yes. they are and 50% off worth it goes yeah. get your hands on a good pillow yeah and.

Macy's does it twice a year I think. maybe Memorial Day and Labor Day are. their pillow sale days oh they had one. going on after New Year's I am wrong. there you have it all right so we were. talking about sleep and the shopping. mall where kids were drinking coffee it. all comes together it does um but all. five of the of the experts said your. kids shouldn't really be having too much. or any caffeine right and they didn't. say like because of like the health. effects. uh like on the basically it was just.

like just like sugar MH you don't want. your kids you know heart rate increased. a lot and their blood pressure increased. and it's just not going to do yourself. any favors as a parent to have a. caffeinated child but I genuinely. believe that you can go through. experiences like that as a younger kid. and it'll make you a keyed up adult a. higher strung adult oh you think I do I. have come to believe that experiences in. childhood very prominently shape your.

your who you are as an adult very much. so I've come to I guess if you're 13 and. drink a lot of coffee and you get. anxious yeah you probably be an anxious. adult I believe that probably keep. drinking coffee probably to saave off. the anxiety when did you start drinking. coffee or did you always drink a lot of. soda. too no I guess it was as a more of a. grown-up yeah for both oh really yeah I. drank a lot of Kool-Aid as a kid and.

like the straight up tons of sugar in. the Kool-Aid Kool-Aid um but and I drank. like some some we called it pop oh yeah. like Foo and Pepsi and stuff up in. too but I I mean I I think it was like. as an older person 20s 30s that I. started drinking like coffee and Earnest. and C that's how it should be I think. sure um I definitely didn't drink coffee. as a kid no that it was gross yeah I did.

too the taste of it was just really foul. I thought but I really learned to love. the taste of coffee yeah and I enjoy a. nice hot cup of coffee on a camping trip. or a cold day sure um I just never took. up the regular habit and not for any. reason other than I just I don't know. just never grabbed me that never took it. up yeah it wasn't like a stand though. you know right like I'm not going to. start drinking caffeine yeah you know. and everybody who drinks coffee can rot. no because my brother-in-law and my. mother-in-law drink more coffee than any.

humans alive more than me they're both. wonderful yeah they'll like let's brew a. pot of coffee not a cup of coffee yeah. and let's just drink it until it's gone. then Brew another pot uhhuh you know. yeah I know but they get a lot done. they're very sure accomplished people. they sleep several inches above the bed. one of them is a general in the Marine. Corp that shows you where he is yeah or. actually that's my. mother-in-law all right how about some. health benefits. right uh there are a lot Believe It or.

Not they've done a lot of. studies and they found everything from. uh helping uh out to not develop. Parkinson's disease to dropping your. risk of uh various cancers y um therosis. how about this two cups a day supposedly. will cause an 80% drop in the odds of. developing curosis that's amazing yeah. that's. I drink a little bit so maybe I should.

drink coffee I wonder if that has to do. with stimulating the fight ORF. flight syndrome where you your liver. releases more sugar to to to give you. more energy or something like that maybe. but what's weird then is so that would. be more sugar in the bloodstream right. yeah too much sugar in the bloodstream. can lead to diabetes right right well. coffee actually is shown to reduce your. risk of diabetes yeah there was this. Harvard study um that involved 126,000. people over 18 years they followed their.

coffee that is a good study it's a great. study uh unless they fudged the results. but saying they didn't what they found. was that people who drink one to three. cups of coffee a day are 9% less likely. to contract diabetes right yeah you. think it ends there no it does not so. people who drank six or more cups of. coffee per day if you were a man your. chances of Contracting diabetes were. reduced by 54% % that's substantial and. for women who drank one six or more cups.

a day uh their chances of of Contracting. diabetes were 30% of developing diabetes. 30% reduction I got another one four. cups a day uh 50% less chance of mouth. and throat cancer uh and I don't know if. it was this Harvard study or another one. said it could reduce suicide risk in. adults. even huh kind of makes sense I guess in. one way which way I don't know I was. thinking I don't know I take that back.

well maybe you like run from self harm. even maybe like you flee or fight or if. it just you know maybe it could battle. your depressive systems by picking you. up or something I don't know yeah that's. yeah better explanation than mine mine. was stupid uh there's there's evidence. that it prevents cavities actually oh. really which yeah which is kind of. surprising because um it that is if you. just if you're doing a study on coffee. um that's if you don't put anything in. your coffee yeah put cream and sugar in.

yeah you're going to get your cavities. on right you kind of do both right just. depending on your mood uh I typically go. toward black right but every now and. then you throw a little vanilla creamer. in there every once in a while yeah um. yeah if I want a treat oh yeah special. treat right but uh caffeine can hurt. your teeth and that it causes teeth. clenching too well which is one reason. I'm losing teeth is I grind my teeth at. night yeah so maybe I shouldn't drink. more coffee it could be yeah but like.

you said it giveth and it taketh away do. I want teeth or do I want my liver to. hang in there and no diabetes right yeah. good point uh Alzheimer's the uh bird. Alzheimer's Institute in Tampa uh did. some uh experimenting on lab mice. injecting them with caffeine like he. said earlier and not only did it protect. them against developing Alzheimer's but. it helped reduce symptoms if they. already had it they haven't tried it on. humans yet but. as it goes with mice many times it goes. with humans yeah hopefully yeah we could.

all be injecting caffeine at some point. that to me is also counterintuitive too. because Alzheimer's disease is. potentially a buildup of plaques in your. brain right that's the result of not. getting enough deep sleep because when. you sleep your gal channels expand and. your brain is bathed in cerebral spinal. fluid cleans out those plaques right but. it only happens when you're sleeping. very deeply um but if you're not getting. very deep sleep with coffee or caffeine. then I would think you'd be there'd be a.

higher risk of Alzheimer's it's. befuddling it is uh and I've also found. conflicting studies on memory uh John's. Hopkins says that it's a Memory enhancer. but I've seen other uh studies that say. it's the memory dehancer yeah so. opposite again it's like it's tough to. kind of get down to the Brass tax you. know yeah when you have conflicting. studies um if you exercise coffee is. your best friend caffeine is yeah I've.

heard of like Olympic athletes that like. will shoot espresso right before a race. yeah not only does it like give you a. jolt of energy and everything but. apparently it has um ergogenic. properties which means that it delays. fatigue right yeah and it helps your um. muscles use glycogen their energy stores. more efficiently too so it can help you. run better interesting yeah uh it's as. far as cognitive abilities um the one. study I found from John's Hopkins.

Medical School said that while you think. it is increasing your cognitive. abilities what it's really doing is just. taking you back to normal for a short. period that is chilling yeah and then. when it wears off you're actually. below man yeah I don't know I hate to. think that I don't want to quit coffee. though that sucks youve quit smoking. yeah you lost weight yeah keep your. coffee that's another thing though I did. during this break is put some of that.

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