10ish Instances of People Doing Things Out Of Spite | STUFF YOU SHOULD KNOW

welcome to stuff you should know a. production of iHeart. Radio hey and welcome to the podcast I'm. Josh and there's Chuck and this is stuff. you should know and this episode Chuck. just made fun of even though I took. pride in hoping to assemble. it oh it's fine it's it's a top 10 we. haven't done those in forever no it's. always kind of a fun throw back and uh.

we seems like we never do 10 uh with our. 3x structure uh nine is probably a great. number but I guess we'll see what. happens right let's see what. happens so you know the uh the old. saying cut off your nose to spite your. face yes and I feel like we did this on. an Internet Roundup or something maybe. it sounded really familiar this story. did it did okay not to you no as a. matter of fact it was all new to me but. that doesn't mean we didn't do it. already yeah but you would remember this.

one cuz it involves self-mutilation so. just want to put out there that this. actually has nothing to do with that. phrase and I'll explain why that phrase. doesn't actually have anything to do. with this oh really but I guess I should. probably say that um we're starting this. episode out in like the worst possible. way with a really Downer of a story that. may or may not have to do with spite so. I say we just go ahead and start that. now. okay yes uh there is a book and this is.

the the as as The Story Goes uh the book. in 1904 called a dictionary of saintly. women MH uh the story is that Viking you. know Berserker Raider types uh came. pillaging Southward to the British Isles. at one point uh well not at one point in. 867 CE specifically and while they were. doing their berserkering and ravaging of. The Villages and things uh things there. was obviously uh the kind of thing that. would happen would be assaults on people.

physically sexually and otherwise and so. when they went to a uh Monastery in. Scotland the coldingham. monastery uh the lead nun St AB the. younger said hey here's what we'll do uh. we want to keep our Chastity and our. covenant to God it's a big deal for us. nuns we should cut off our noses to keep. that from happening because they won't. assault us then but not to spite our. faces to spite the the Vikings.

yeah not even to spite I think I think. it's to protect themselves from sexual. assault sure I mean this is all horrific. it is horrific yeah no I'm not saying. like this is a laugh r or anything like. that I'm just saying no no no I didn't. think you were um anyway back to the. horrific story St ay said um and she. wasn't a saint at the time but this. certainly helped her case later on um. she said come nuns let's go sit around. and talk I have something to say to you. uh to prevent ourselves from losing our. check from being raped by these Vikings.

we're going to cut off our own noses I'm. going to cut off my lip and maybe I'll. inspire you to do the same and the rest. of the sisters said yes let's do that. and they did and there's actually old. like wood. cuttings and there's at least one. stained glass panel of this happening. and it's gory even as a wood cutting. it's gory yeah and when the Vikings. showed up they found these nuns missing. their noses bleeding uh missing their.

lips just uh in in quite a state and. they were like we're just going to move. on to the next Monastery and see what we. find there the nuns however were not. their lives were not spared were they. yeah it gets even worse because uh what. the Vikings did was burn the place down. with them inside and killed them all. yeah but there's a different way of. looking at this and that is that these. nuns Protected Their Chastity which as. you said is really really important.

they're known as the brides of Christ. and that's one of the reasons why. they're chased why they're um meant to. die virgins is because they have given. themselves to Christ or to God so as. long as they're chased and they die. chased then they have fulfilled this. Covenant um even if it's not by their. own will or decision that they um lose. their virginity if they lose it through. Force still not quite the same as dying. Chase so um they managed to come out out. on top religiously speaking so that's.

that story oh the reason why um it. doesn't have anything to do with cutting. your nose off to spite your face is. because that phrase means that you are. doing something in Revenge to somebody. else or to harm somebody else but you're. actually harming yourself much worse. than you are them yeah and they just. burned them down they didn't spite. anybody right so that's a heck of a way. to kick off what was supposed to be a. semi light-hearted top 10 list yeah oh. wait but doesn't it mean to spite your.

own face right so you're Haring yourself. yeah I got you you see what I'm saying. yeah I just got confused it's kind of. like there's another saying that hating. somebody is like drinking poison and. expecting them to. die I've never heard that it's a good. one it really gets the point across it. makes you not want to hate or St or. something about someone else wow that's. really good I like that thanks a lot I. just made it up look at you dropping. nugs uh all right let's talk about.

Henry Clay Frick because he was a uh. Gilded Age I don't know about Robert. Baron but he was at very least a mogul. uh and along with Andrew Carnegie they. made quite a lot of money together as. partners in the steel industry yeah that. relationship went South and Carnegie got. him out of the picture got frick out of. the picture and you know to the point. where he was Carnegie was sued and and. Frick actually won a lawsuit and won. compensation and everything but it. wasn't like he was like all right we're. all even now now he hated Andrew.

Carnegie for the rest of his life yeah. anytime like um uh Carnegie's company I. can't remember which Steel company was. he owned but um anytime there's like. some misstep or bad decision or business. went aai um Frick would send a note like. chiding him or taunting him for having. made a terrible decision um like just. constantly kept it up there was um I. think Carnegie built a mansion in New. York and um uh frick was like oh yeah. I'm going to build an even bigger one.

right down the street just to show you. up like would not let it go yeah for. sure uh Anything You Can Do I can do. bigger and better and so you would think. at the end of their lives they could. just let bygones be bygones and that's. what Andrew Carnegie tried to do when he. was in failing Health said can you get. in touch with my old partner Frick Mr. Henry Clay Frick MH and tell him he's. got a great name and tell him that I'd. like to meet up with him and Patch this. thing up before were gone off of this.

Earth and so they brought the letter he. dispatched his his personal secretary. James bridge to to send this to Frick. personally and Frick apparently balded. up the letter and threw it back at him. and said tell him I'll see him in hell. where we were both going yeah great. comeback I'll meet him in hell yeah his. other thing that he was said to have. said was not until he admits that I'm. the Mary and you're the. [Laughter]. Roda oh man if you I know you're getting.

into some old TV and you always have. been but uh if you do you have Criterion. the Criterion Channel streamer uh no. highly recommended by the way like it's. really the only great one out there as. far as quality stuff but they have old. Mary Tyler Moore um or maybe that was on. Max I can't remember but anyway Emily. and I started watching old Mary Tyler Mo. episodes like the original where she. worked at the TV station yeah mhm and it. is.

I I watched a little bit when I was a. kid but man it it is so good and it's so. funny and charming and witty and like. still great it holds up those shows used. to like just be written so well too and. acted too she was so good I can't. remember there's one episode. where I think. Ted yeah Ted Knight he was doing he was. doing something and it was so ridiculous. and Preposterous but he was playing it. straight so well that the the rest of.

the cast just started cracking up and. like they couldn't not they did it in. every take and it ended up kind of in. the show it's some classic like. well-known episode but um check that one. out make sure you you see that one too. oh so good Ted Knight and uh uh who's. the woman who played uh Roa Valerie. Burton Aly no valer uh oh it's killing. me uh Valerie Harper there you go Val. Harper uh Ed Asner it's like it's just.

it's really a great great show and Mary. Tyler Moore is just a gem of a human MH. I hope she's still good as a person sure. I watch the documentary about her it's. worthwhile oh really yeah it's excellent. in fact all right I'll check it out yeah. quite a quite a woman well thanks for. the recommendation hey sure I feel like. we've killed some time should we do uh a. third and then take a break I think. that's a great idea chuck all right. we're going to talk about sad and.

and Saddam Hussein didn't like one. George HW Bush who was the guy who said. his name that way because of the first. Gulf War yeah he said sure I invaded. Kuwait but that doesn't mean you have to. come over here and liberate Kuwait and. George Bush said yes we do and um as a. result after this war uh Saddam Hussein. was still in in power and he apparently. was um willing to use his power in all. sorts of weird ways and tacky ways.

frankly and one of the ways he did that. was he had a mosaic mural an. unflattering Mosaic mural of George Bush. laid into the floor of the entrance of. the um al- rashed Hotel one of the. nicest hotels in Baghdad if not the. nicest and the whole reason was it also. said bush is Criminal on it too um and. the reason was that anyone coming into. this well-traveled hotel would walk. right over George Bush's face right and.

if you walked around it you were given a. a bad room right or taken out back and. shot one of the two did you look at a. picture of this I did it it is an. unflattering portrait but you can. totally tell who it is you totally tell. who it is this big old George Bush Senor. right there on the floor of the hotel of. the lobby it's a very strange thing uh. to see in a nice hotel yeah uh but um W. came along later on uh went back to Iraq. uh for the. um you know the war there on uh the.

basis of weapons of mass destruction. that did not exist right and he had them. smash that up and he's like Daddy I'm. not going to let him do that to. you here's some sledgehammers and so. they went in there and they smashed That. Thing Up and chiseled it up and. supposedly laid a portrait of Saddam uh. did they didn't do that in mosaic tile. did they I don't think so I from what I. saw it looked just like a picture I. didn't see a closeup of it I just saw I. couldn't find one either like head was. out of proportion with the body he's.

like here's some sledgehammers and I. need a good tile guy in Baghdad right. the sledgehammer head Don't Mess with. Texas engraved on them they probably did. but uh yeah I mean that's spiteful right. to to sure make a mosaic portrait of one. of your sworn enemy so that your people. walk all over him I think so to ruin. your hotel lobby your nicest hotel lobby. yeah all right so we have a definitive. example of spite that's right well then. that I think that means we should take a. break while we're ahead all right we'll.

be right back with three more Le. terrod of the H the LI Mur and the can. runs explain everything to your brain. exp should. know word up Jerry. [Music]. okay Chuck um I guess we should at this.

point decide which one we're not going. to do if we're doing 3 three and. three well I think the Beatles one has. the least amount of meat on the bone all. right I was going to skip that one too. or suggest we do great uh and if you did. it I was just going to not talk I was. going to skip it either way well I mean. we can just quickly say that at one. point after the Beatles breakup John. linnen wrote a song where he talked a. lot of trash about Paul McCartney so. okay everyone that.

story it's very very famous story uh but. the one that's really interesting to me. uh is Ford versus Ferrari because uh. that is a terrific movie that I highly. recommend is it on Criterion Channel I. doubt it but I'm sure you could stream. it somewhere uh the great James mangle. directed it and I'm always a fan of his. work he did the new Bob Dylan movie what. else uh he did the last Indiana Jones. movie which was better than the one. before what else uh I don't know he's. done he's done James mangold's good he.

sort of has a very varied uh resume. which I always appreciate in a director. yeah I was going to say that's all over. the place for sure yeah so I guess if. you've seen Ford versus Ferrari you're. familiar with this. story uh I am and and I I do recommend. it he also did the Wolverine movie and. the Logan movie so yeah he's he's all. over the place um okay so um I'm GNA. tell the story then because I haven't. seen that movie so this was new to me oh. you'd like it okay so um in the 60s hry. Ford II uh who was the successor.

president of the Ford Motor Company um. and I guess probably a relative of Henry. Fords he decided that he wanted Ford to. get into racing just to basically like. make Ford just to expand the the brand. basically rather than just giant land. Yachts we also make really fast cars too. totally he also was like you know I know. that there's probably easier ways to get. into racing than to build race cars and. that is let's just buy Ferrari like they.

were already known around the world for. building cars that were just fast as. I'll get out that's right uh and their. very famous founder Enzo Fadi uh pitched. a deal um for 18 million bucks for 90%. interest in the company and as the movie. portrays it this isn't in this article. but as the movie portrays it if I'm not. mistaken and I'm not sure if it's true. or not but at least it was in the movie. I don't see why they would make this. part up is that he was using that deal. to get a better deal uh from Fiat so.

playing one against the other uh which. will'll really make someone mad in. business sure apparently when Ford. showed up to sign the paperwork uh. Ferrari said that you know what you're. this Ford assembly line This bureaucracy. that you've got in this company is it's. a not how we do it over here so no deal. right and uh Ford was not very happy. about this right of course not so out of. spite and to get back at Ferrari and I. think also to to get into racing too.

Ford decided to build their own race car. which came out to be the Ford. GT40 and I went and looked it up I'm not. a car dude but I am like this is an. amazing car I'm the same way man uh and. in fact it actually did best Ferrari at. lemons in. 1966 and you can buy that car at the. very least the original body that won. lemons in 1966 for a cool. $675,000 from. it looks like a private owner in.

Jacksonville Florida wow Jacksonville. it's. beautiful uh so they won first second. and third so they really bested Ferrari. uh they also won uh in subsequent years. so they they swept in or not swept but. they won in 66 67 68 and 69 that's a. sweep well I meant not sweep first. second and third place necessarily or. they may have I don't know but um uh I. think we should do one on the 24 hours. of L because that's that's I'm not a car.

race guy but that to me is the most. interesting one yeah because they just. drive around and around and around for. 24 hours to see who can go the furthest. right yeah I think it's pretty cool it's. an endurance race if I and it's not just. like a a you know a circular NASCAR. thing you know they're driving through. streets right and every once in a while. it starts to get boring they just push. pedestrians out in there and see what. happens exactly uh so there's a little. more to this story a little separate. spoke that Ferrari had going on at about. the same time or a couple years earlier.

our friends at menal Foss pointed out. that Lamborghini actually was founded. out of spite to. Ferrari yeah uh apparently the founder. of. Lamborghini uh John. Smith his name was uh ferio Lamborghini. uh he was a tractor maker in the 60s and. he had a Ferrari and uh he was like this. this clutch is kind of janky um and as. The Story Goes he got in touch with Enzo.

Ferrari and was like Hey you know I. think I I can help make your clutch. better CU you got this problem here with. this uh spawn divot and I can help make. that thing better and apparently as The. Story Goes Ferrari was did not receive. that phone call well and was basically. like get lost yeah he said stick to. making tractors Lamborghini who's ever. heard of Lamborghini exactly what a. weird name for a car right so. Lamborghini was like well I'm just going. to go make my own car and in 1963 I. believe he started making Lamborghinis.

with the help of five workers who had. recently been fired from Ferrari that's. how he establish as car company and had. Enzo Ferrari not rebuffed him we would. never have that classic Garfield poster. from the 80s where he's standing next to. a. Kos the Kos uh you and I are not car. guys but like if I see a Lamborghini on. the street or something or like the old. Magnum Ferrari I I love that stuff. yourself a little bit I mean you know.

I'm not a sports car guy but uh I just. can't help but see those and think like. what a what an amazing machine that is. gorgeous those Magnum Ferraris you can. get for a song these days I mean they. don't work very well but much you get. one I don't know I'm going to guess. anywhere between 10 and 50 Grand yeah I. mean considering how much they were that. is a song you know it is and they're so. small too like I'm not sure either one. of us could fit in one of those yeah I. mean I think every. or I mean Thomas Magna fited him but.

yeah I I think that was a stunt double. half his size oh really well he was when. it showed him in the car his knees were. up toward his chin a bit so like by his. ears yeah cuz he was he was a tall guy. but um I uh like that that Ferrari I. feel like for for guys of Our Generation. that Ferrari and the um the Porsche from. Risky Business are like top two of the. top five probably dream cars was that in. 944 or 911 it was the the uh no in the.

911 it was the. 928 I'm not familiar with that one then. yeah it it had the lights that popped up. it was it was one of the not as um laed. versions I think uh but man and that. it's something about that movie it just. sort of locked it in I mean it's like a. little hatchback it's not even that. special hatchback when you look at it. now yeah for grocery shopping exactly uh. how many have we done for this thing we. just did one right oh yeah we got to get.

going okay all right let's get going. because um it turns out that there was a. road in China made out of. spite that's right and I feel like I've. seen this in more than one place in the. world where oh really yeah not even. necessarily a road but like uh where. like well you don't want to give up your. house so we're just going to build these. skyscrapers all around it right sure did. you see pictures of this though oh yeah. this is this is the extreme because and. this happened in China to this uh couple.

in 2012 uh the man's name was uh luo uh. Bogan bgan Boggan mhm uh he and his wife. uh refused to you know they tried to. come in and take their their house to. make a uh Highway and they were like no. we're not going to do it you didn't. offer us enough money and so we're not. going anywhere and so they built I mean. if you visual if you're visualizing a. house literally sort of in the middle of. a of a Road and the road goes around it.

that's what they did yeah like it wasn't. even a roundabout it's just that the. road widened and kind of curved in a. bulge on the sides around this house. literally in the middle of a highway. even worse even more Reckless if you ask. me they kept electricity going to this. house so there's an electrical pole in. the middle of the highway too totally. unmarked it doesn't look real no it. doesn't it does not at all doesn't and. if you want see what we're talking about. um the Atlantic has a good photo spread.

called the house in the middle of the. street from I think 2012 yeah I mean. this is the most extreme case of. something like this that I've heard uh. you know it didn't take long for them to. give in obviously because it was well. dangerous and awful uh and so they got. um they did eventually give in and got a. a larger offer than they were originally. asked for but I don't get the feeling. that they thought they. won no they definitely didn't so um I I. looked into this a little further it was.

a five-story house that they had just. built for 95 Grand when the the um. provincial government said you need to. move because we're building a highway. through here and they weren't the only. ones who um had kind of tried to stick. it out so they were also aware that they. could not leave their house they had to. stay in their house 24 hours a day. because if they left the government. would come and bulldoze their house. while they were gone and be like TS what. are you going to do and um they they had. no choice but just holding out was a. kind of a protest and to draw attention.

to this generally unfair practice cuz I. mean any government can exercise eminent. domain but typically you want to give at. least market value yeah I mean it's it's. really egregious when you look at this. picture it's nuts cuz they were they. were on like their porch the like a. second floor balcony and they're looking. down and you're looking down not at a. front yard you're looking down at the. road like it went right around this. house yeah through it. yeah so that was a spiteful road that.

was a spiteful Road and now we're going. to talk about a spiteful statue that's. right uh because in Germany uh between. the towns of Bon and Buel uh there's the. old Ry River and the uh Rin river bridge. that connects the two MH and so the the. little Bridge man or the uh Bren manin. brooken Menin it's kind of a mouthful MH. uh is the little bridg man and that is a. sculpture of a guy um sort of B over.

sticking his butt out and that became. the uh the subject of a lot of uh. contention eventually backfiring is that. right yeah so the story went that in the. late 19th century I think December 17th. 1898 this bridge between Bon and bule um. which was supposed to be a joint. construction project between the two um. ended up being paid for entirely by Bond. because bule was like well use the. bridge but we're not going to pay for it.

you go ahead and pay for it yeah and so. Under Wraps until this unveiling of the. bridge uh was a that little statue of a. little man carved into the bridge with. his butt sticking out basically mooning. bu mooning bule can you imagine just the. the hilarity of seeing that yeah when it. was. unveiled uh but like I said it backfired. because that statue became a bit of a. local. uh icon so it you know it was on Bank.

notes it was on uh people took pictures. of it it was on local postcards and it. was a little tourist attraction uh but. what they did was they put attacks on. the bridge but only attacks uh going uh. one way and not back into your own place. right so what happened was from the bule. side they could see the statue because. it was pointing you know their it butt. was pointing at them right so they got. all the benefits of seeing this thing. without having to pay to to cross the.

bridge to see it if you were on the. other side and you wanted to go like. actually see this statue you had to pay. to get across yeah and you can believe. that anytime you had out of town guests. visit you had to take them to go see the. little Bridge man go see the [ __ ] so. yeah they they ended up what was. supposed to be a a joke at the expense. of bule ended up to be an actual expense. for the city of bond because they had to. pay this fee to get onto the bridge but. supposedly they're friendly Rivals still. or they were now I think think they're. one town kind of like Budapest there's.

Buddha and Pest and it's separated by. the river but it's still one city now. yeah same thing and that's what uh Bon. and bule interesting that's that's how I. understand it so this um you can still. see the the little bridg man but he's. not the original the original was almost. destroyed in the second world war the. bridge was at least but they were able. to to get their hands on the Statue and. get them out of the Rind they put them. back on the rebuilt bridge but then some. local youths in 1960 destroyed that so.

now there's a recreation of it on the. bridge little punk rockers yeah little. punks at least yeah uh so that's that. was a um a little Bridge Man made out of. spite all right and I think that's break. number two and we'll be back to finish. up with three more right after this want. to learn about a ter and call itoda how. to take a perfect all. about the the LI Mur run going explain. everything to your.

brain should. know word up. [Music]. Jerry all right we're going to talk. about uh and I've I've seen stories sort. of like this but this one seems to take. the cake when a Christmas display goes. um too far and all of a sudden people. are neighbors are like hey this is.

getting out of hand uh it's too bright. uh or it's uh you know neighbor people. are driving in to see the things now and. I can't even get down my own street. right uh and this happened in the. mid-2000s in Ross Township Pennsylvania. uh when a dude named Bill an electrician. key named Bill and cell uh did a pretty. you know audacious Christmas display in. his front yard there in Ross Township. such that people were driving in and. neighbors started to get annoyed yeah. and actually the the way that this.

neighborhood was arranged is a culdesac. but in the center of the culdesac was. Bill anel's house so with his light. display you it it was just kind of like. driving through a holiday light display. because you just drive past and go all. the way around and come back on the. other side and leave it's kind of. perfect actually it was perfect and Bill. anel definitely thought it was perfect. but like you said the neighbors were. like man come on this is 100,000 watts. of Christmas Joy um it's it's just it's. too much so can we do something about.

this bill anel apparently was not the. type to um take criticism well sounds. like it I think he actually was required. to take down the holiday display and by. this by the town yes I think they cited. him for um an out of season decoration. or something like that right so he took. it down but in short order he put up a. new display and specifically designed it. so that the neighbors regretted ever.

asking him to take down the original. joyous display and he did this Chuck out. of spite that's right uh and and. apparently left it up year round um. Santa uh. urinating in the front yard uh a choir. that was beheaded uh Frosty the Snowman. getting run over by a car uh also up in. lights uh F Ross. Township yeah just just right there in. string lights um a sign that said this.

display is dedicated to Ross Township. shame on you for destroying my display. that brought so much joy and happiness. to so many people there was also a. warning a sign that said um uh ra Ross. Township don't touch any of this. property if you do there will be. Bloodshed is that true yeah okay no it. totally and there was another one I read. um an interview with 2020 with the. neighbors who were like this guy. actually wrote a sign I didn't see what.

he said but he he came up with a. disparaging sign for the um deceased. wife of Tom white one of the neighbors. the day after she died he put up some. sign disparaging her so this guy was. definitely off the chain with this thing. and I mean like he would stay up at. night and hit metal with um. sledgehammers to make noise he had flood. lights pointed directly in the neighbor. houses and I mean living like that's bad. enough but they said something something. that stuck out to me that I hadn't. thought of that's like this is a living.

nightmare when you have a neighbor like. that yeah and you sell your house. anytime you have a showing they're going. to turn around before they even get out. of their car that's that like you you're. trapped they were totally trapped there. and despite the township fining him. despite court orders like you said he. kept it up year round and he kept it up. for. years yeah and then he built a kild. dozer yes I I thought there was. definitely a parallel between those guys. too yeah uh be be a good neighbor.

everyone be a good neighbor to your. neighbor that's all you got to do you. don't have to you can go above and. beyond if you want but just be like base. level good sure and if your neighbors if. your neighbors come to you with a. complain about some special thing that's. special to you rather than going off the. handle maybe say well let's figure out a. compromise because this is really. important to me yeah and let's not tank. everyone's property values We're All in. This Together sure and if they're like. no we insist you take it down then you. do something on a spite at least give.

them a Fighting Chance that's right this. is this was super. spite we want to thank not just our. friends at 2020 but our friends at. Mental Floss too for pointing that one. out to us that's right uh so I think uh. we got a couple more right that's right. we'll move on to Prince Rogers Nelson. AKA Prince uh AKA for a little while uh. the artist formerly known as Prince mhm. because very famously Prince changed his.

name uh in 1993 when uh to an. unrecognizable symbol uh it was sort of. a the symbol for man and woman and it. had some other flourishes and had kind. of been tweaked and redesigned over the. years it was on different uh pieces you. know he had a guitar shape like that. previously I think it was on his. motorcycle in Purple Rain maybe oh yeah. uh but it was a symbol that had been. around his his world for a while and. Prince said yep that's my name now and. everyone thought he was thought he was.

we yeah don't wear it out because you. can't say it CU so that's impossible. right uh but I think at at the time I. remember everyone just thought it was. Prince being Prince and being strange. and being eccentric uh but it it is now. pretty widely accepted that he did that. uh to spite Warner Brothers records. because he was in a record contract he. didn't like for numerous reasons yeah. and it it was a very lucrative contract. a lot of people were playing like the. world's smallest viol in for Prince um. at the time he resigned it too by the.

way 20 years later resigned with the. same company and I saw no no no he. resigned before this one this was the. second version he resigned a third time. later I got you okay did not realize. that but this was like aund million. contract is worth $215 million today it. was a big fat contract yeah the thing is. is Prince I saw like when he died when. they went into his um audio archives. they're like he could release an album. like every month for the next 50 years.

or something like that he had that much. stuff recorded and he wanted to release. music really quickly and with high. turnover and Warner Brothers is like no. you're going to flood the market you're. going to shoot yourself in the foot you. can only release X number of albums. every say 12 months so like one a year. maybe or something like that yeah he. didn't like that and then apparently. Warner Brothers own the rights to his. songs too which I I'm quite sure he. really really didn't like so to get out. of his contract he thought well okay the. contract is between Prince and Warner. Brothers I'm going to change my name and.

maybe the contract won't be valid any. longer I'm not sure how much he actually. believe that because Prince wasn't a. dumb person at all yeah but at the very. least he he was um trying to humiliate. Warner Brothers make life harder for. them and he did all this as you said out. of spite that's right uh he also wrote. the word slave on his cheek and a lot of. performances at the time MH and uh it. didn't work he he had to see the. contract through. uh which just another few years I think.

in 2000 it expired uh and then he was. Prince again and like you said you know. bygones were bygones I guess because he. resigned yet again 20 years later with. Warner Brothers yeah one of the things. that Warner Brothers too had to do Chuck. was they had to send out digital files. to the media and this was the 90s. because there was no way to um there was. no like combination of keys on a. keyboard to make this symbol so they had. to send a digital image of the symbol. for the the like newspapers or magazines. or whatever to insert into their.

articles about prints and then finally. the um the media was just like we're. just going to call him the artist. formerly known as Prince and Prince was. like damn it right work around yeah. exactly so rip Prince man he was pretty. great yes uh my friend and your friend. Scotty got to go to his final. performance the solo Atlanta performance. at the Fox Theater just days before he. died. yeah and it always makes me so mad.

because Scotty didn't even really love. Prince. yeah no I'm glad he got to go he just. showed up they like how did I get here. that's one of those we almost went and. pulled the trigger to scal tickets and. it was just like I don't know why we. didn't because it was special enough to. be a piano solo concert by Prince I was. like man we got to go yep and we didn't. and then he died yeah we uh were going. to do the same thing and that's actually. a um well we weren't going to scalp we. were going to go and I don't remember. why we didn't um but that's kind of par. for the course for me because I did that.

with Prince I did that with Pink Floyd I. did that with Stevie rayon and I did. that with um The Grateful Dead I was. just like I'll see him next time I saw. Prince when I lived in LA in the late 90. or I'm sorry yeah I guess it was early. 2000s mhm and that was amazing just. being able to see him once with the full. band it was something else Yumi saw him. for some tour I think musicology tour. and she was like hands down the best. show I've ever seen yeah boy what a loss.

apparently he was quite the dancer uh he. was I also saw Tom Petty on that last. tour I saw him quite a few times but I. was I was really glad to be at that last. one yeah he was cool he was one of those. guys that like you appreciate the older. you get you know what I mean one of the. best no he's one of my faves great uh. let's move on to the Pink House Chuck. the last of the last you mean John melon. Camp no that's a little pink house this. is just the pink house that's right uh. this is another uh image search quality.

or uh image search worthy kind of thing. to look up if you're if you're at a. place where you can do that just type in. Plum Island Pink House M and you will. see a quite large pink house sitting in. the middle of nothing just a desolate. Marshland yeah and it's it's just. looking at it it's very eerie especially. now it's abandoned it's kind of. ramshackle and run down um but it was. built on Plum Island and it's considered. one of the all-time great examples of a.

spite house and a spite house is. basically any house wall structure. that's built to get under someone else's. skin right so sometimes it's built to. block their view uh we talked about. Henry Clay Frick building a mansion that. was bigger than Andrew Carnegie's that. would be considered a spite house and in. America they go back at least until 1806. that was the earliest one I could find. but this one on Plum Island off the the. um coast of Newberry Port Massachusetts.

which by the way is one of the more. Charming towns in the entire country oh. I've never been there oh it's wonderful. um that's where this pink house is and. there's a great backstory to it that. makes it a spite house made out of spite. uh a lot of times the spite houses. happen when a couple gets divorced it. should come as no surprise uh or I. should say probably couples with a lot. of money get divorced because what I've. learned is in order to have a spite. house you have to be. right oh I'm just going to build that.

huge house to get back at someone it's a. very privileged position to be in for. sure uh so you know I am judging uh but. in 2015 uh there was a New York Times. article that that that talked about this. thing that was built like you said in. the middle of nowhere it said it was. overlooking a vast landscape of pristine. salt marsh and it apparently happened in. 1925 when a couple got divorced and the. wife said all right uh we can get a. divorce um but um you have to to rebuild.

an exact duplicate of the house we live. in if you're kicking me out of it. because I love it so much and he went no. problem and so he built it and he said. you didn't say. where and he said it just like that I. bet yep he did so he built it on Plum. Island at the time there was no one else. living there no fresh water um no. electricity it was just the worst place. you could build a house and he said. there you go there's your spite house. and uh he walked away rubbing the dust.

off of his hands or what do you call. that yeah that whatever you call. clapping the dust off your hands yeah we. need to come up with a name for that. right yeah um a sniglet yeah there you. go so yeah that's how it ended and the. the story went that she lived there for. a while and sold it and it actually was. inhabited weirdly enough um by a. succession of people up until 2011. yeah I mean I guess if you're a loner. and you like nature it's not the worst.

place to be I just saw a sunset picture. it looked pretty nice in that sense yes. it did um but it's just I mean like the. the sea off of Massachusetts can be. fairly unforgiving so yeah you know this. is a an old house from the 1920s like. you're it's going to probably be kind of. drafty depending on the time of year. yeah and I'm sure upkeep on that thing. is uh you're probably repainting that. thing every couple of years right yes. but you would have to paint it pink or. everybody in Newberry Port would hate. you yeah you would have to uh apparently.

that uh it was lived in until 2011 and. then eventually was sold to the Parker. River National Wildlife Refuge in 2012. and is you can't get to it now it's off. limits to the public uh but they're. trying to make it an official like. protected house so it will stand forever. and it was made out of spite or was it. Chuck I don't know well some people say. that that was just an urban legend and. it was just a family who lived out there. right which is a much less interesting.

story so we're just going whatsoever. we're going to go with spite house for. that one agreed all right well that's it. for things done out of spite we hope you. enjoyed it uh and since I said we hope. you enjoyed it it's time for listener. mail so another uh recent one from. automat I love this real time stuff this. you know I mentioned some sort of. episode on currency and how it affects. things mhm and this is from.

tree tree okay awesome not a tree but. tree tree uh Hey guys Chuck specifically. you mentioned in the automat episode you. were trying to formulate uh something. around how change affects things or. currency rather uh look into the. situation in Zimbabwe that might help. where it was too expensive to import. metal coins uh they had adopted the US. dollar uh it was too expensive to import. the metal because of weight uh so there. was a huge change shortage because store. owners couldn't give Shoppers change. Shoppers would have to purchase. additional items uh to try and get their.

total purchase as close to the whole. dollar amount uh and he sent a New York. Times article and that my friend tree is. exactly what I was talking about as. something that could be a part of that. episode so I appreciate that uh. Direction and that is specifically uh. tree uh Mar marink great name tree tree. marink from South Carolina thanks a lot. that's a good one and I remember um we. talked a little bit about Zimbabwe's. hyperinflation oh yeah where people were.

like showing up with actual whe. wheelbarrows of cash cuz it was just. going nuts that was crazy I remember. that great great example yeah we got to. do that episode yeah there's there's got. to be more to it for sure uh well if you. want to be like tree and fill us in on. something we've said we want to know. about we love that kind of thing you can. send us an email to stuff podcast. iheartradio.com. stuff you should know is a production of.

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