10 - Yes, 10! - Dumb Criminals | STUFF YOU SHOULD KNOW

welcome to stuff you should know a. production of iHeart. Radio hey and welcome to the podcast I'm. Josh and there's Chuck and Jerry's here. too and we'd like to welcome you to what. will certainly be the greatest episode. of stuff you should know ever. produce oh boy this. one I love it let's do it this one. hearkens back to to the old days uh when.

I feel like we weren't very good at. this yeah mean it really does yeah yeah. I had nothing to add because it does. dude I can't make heads or tailes of. this I'm like what what bothers me about. this this episode this this topic I even. selected it and it still bothers me and. I so I started doing like a search to. try to be like okay maybe there is. something like inherently wrong with. lists of dumb criminals and I I looked. up I searched every way I could to try.

to find even just the dumbest think. piece on what's wrong with dumb. criminalists no one in the history of. the internet has apparently ever even. had that thought so I finally just. decided to mellow out and and go with. the flow and just share some dumb. criminal stories on for face value. basically yeah I'm fine with that I. think we both had a tough week so let's. uh let's just make fun of ourselves okay. and and some criminals hey you hey dummy.

that's right all right so this is a top. 10 this on the other side we usually do. like eight you actually have 11 I know. well one of them is zero I started. counting as a Mayan wood I know I was. like what are you doing I didn't want to. go back and renumber everything else. that's fine so I just added zero I. thought it was rather clever all right. let's just Breeze through these then eh. uh oh yeah there's not a seven though. this is like the blot episode of stuff. you should know yeah so first up on our. please.

spotter we've got the story of manga. manga out of Omaha Nebraska manga was a. 17-year-old boy who back in. 2014 uh attempted a carjacking which. seemed to be a step up from his usual uh. emmo which was to Rob um stores with a. knife this time he carjacked a woman in. a car with a gun and uh he thought it. was taking your kid to school right yes.

reprehensible yeah it was like 7: a.m. I. saw something like that it's a 700 a.m. carjacking either you got up way too. early or you never went to bed 700 a.m. is too early for a carjacking frankly. but he did and he was it it started out. kind of successfully for him well yeah. because uh mom did what Mom should do. which is get out of that car I assume. grabbed her son mhm and dude jumps in. and uh realizes it's a stick shift a.

manual transmission could not drive a. stick shift and for evidently about 7. Minutes uh this nitwit we can say stuff. like that right I think so I think this. kid definitely proved himself a nitwit a. nitwit who had a lot of stiiven how. about that. okay a knit with with uh spunk yeah uh. about seven minutes of trying to get. this car to move um just moved a few. yards which I imagine was just lurching. forward uh while he's popping that.

yeah uh finally gives up after just a. few minutes of that um and then leaves. on foot and is nabbed by the cops yeah. they said some witnesses said that like. he turned the lights on he turned the. windshield wipers on just trying to. figure out how to make this thing work. right and I saw a video of it um and he. somehow the car ended up on the sidewalk. perpendicular to the street oh well I. have no idea how he got up there Pro. progress yeah so he um he had just.

gotten out of jail like two weeks. earlier from his uh robbery spree um. before that he'd been caught for and I. could not find out what happened to this. kid um like I I just saw he was charged. no sentencing usually in stories like. this there's more often than not a. follow-up story like two years later. about what happened to them when they're. finally sentenced or something like that. couldn't find anything about this kid. but I did find out his name means in. Swahili means essentially healer um or.

like doctor like Bush doctor essentially. as a manga okay and as a last name it's. the. 16,31 most common last name in the. world boy really that's what I got. really that's this kind of. episode all right let's move on to. number nine okay uh with Mr Derek Mosley. uh this is a a Shan connory kind of. crime.

uh because at great line from The. Untouchables you brought a knife to a. gunfight uh Derrick Mosley brought a a. baseball bat and a knife to the robbery. of a gun store right and this was. discount gun sales in uh Washington. County Oregon near Portland he's I guess. smart enough to go in and at least smash. a display case and get a gun but because. it's a gun store I would say 99 out of. 100 gun shops the owner has a gun on.

their person with actual bullets in it. right that seems to be his failing that. he um assumed that the guns were going. to be loaded he didn't account for the. people having their own personal loaded. guns on them one was loaded but that. seems to have been like the the whole. reason he attacked the gun store was to. get a gun yeah like that was the purpose. um but yeah it didn't go very well the. manager pulled his gun and said get on. the ground and he got on the ground.

until the police came and that was that. he got 5 years probation uh for it and. had to pay $350 to fix the display case. that's right yeah wow we're really. cruising through these aren't we we're. cruising through hey we get up early. today yeah that's right okay Chuck well. let's do number eight I guess number. eight A and B because it's this is two. guys and uh I sent you the photo you saw. the photo right I did that was very kind. if you to include that cuz it paints a.

picture I would like very much for. everybody to look up the photo of Joey. Miller and Matthew. McNelly and uh while we talk about them. how about that yeah and maybe we could. throw this on the Instagram page too uh. this was from a uh crime in October 2009. or I guess sort of a near crime and. these guys uh put on their hoodies they. uh went to break into a guy's house in. Caroll Iowa uh because one of the guys. uh suspected that his girl.

was cheating on him basically with a guy. who lived there right uh but their. disguise was their hoodie sweatshirts. and then what can only be described as a. toddler esque scribbling of Sharpie on. their face you totally nailed it it is. like a toddler did it like the lines. aren't filled in like it's just terrible. it doesn't disguise them at all no and. ironically it's Sharpie or some kind of. permanent marker I don't want to uh you. know necessarily say say that they were. using the name brand but what it ended.

up doing was like it made them obviously. uh Prime suspects for the cop who pulled. them over yeah because permanent markers. pretty permanent I mean I'm sure they're. still not walking around this is 2009. I'm sure it's washed off by now but. certainly that same night it hadn't. washed off and so when they were pulled. over in their car which matched the. description a witness gave them um they. were they they match the description of.

the asants who had permanent marker all. over their face toddler as scribbles. yeah I saw the cops described as stunned. when they pulled the the the car over. yeah it's it's so interesting when you. read about these things and these. decisions people make and interesting. you know I'm I'm I'm filling that word. in for a lot of terrible things I could. say but it's almost like they were like. hey let's think of a way that we'll be. sure to get caught. right when they thought it was a.

disguise in fact I saw reference in more. than one place um that they may have. been drunk when they did this better uh. and at the very least the uh a judge who. who saw them I think like less than a. week later um was like we're I'm just. dismissing these charges because there's. no evidence they actually made it into. that man's apartment yeah they didn't. break in they didn't have a weapon on. them and nobody got hurt so they're like. these guys their mug shot staying on the.

internet forever is probably punishment. enough so yeah there's no charge for nit. wittyy no no so that's Joey Miller and. Matthew McNelly and while you're looking. at that um that photo of them we're. going to go ahead and take an ad break. all right we'll be right back with more. nit witery. [Applause]. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].

learning stuff with. josua. and St you. should so Chuck I want to add this one. in because I think it's a good example. of um like you should be skeptical even. when you're sitting back and enjoying. reading lists of dumb criminals right. okay um CLA Schmidt is one you might.

come across fairly frequently he was on. a lot of lists that I saw uh and CLA. Schmidt may not have existed as far as I. can tell oh I did a a some research I. won't say it's the deepest research. that's ever been done to try to find. somebody but I did look extensively went. on to newspapers.com did a few searches. nothing DNA nothing came up about this. guy yeah I I traveled to Berlin and. interviewed some potential family. members no one had ever heard of him but.

um his story is all over the Internet. because it's just such a Whopper of a. story and it's I just I wanted to. include it but I also think it. definitely deserves to be pointed out as. probably not true apocryphal as they say. in the Bible yeah now that you've. mentioned this it very much smacks of a. uh of an urban legend it does it does. because uh he's described as a man in. Berlin who went to rob a bank in August. of 1995 that's right well I want you to.

tell the story though why me because you. picked this stupid topic. okay so CLA Schmidt is said to have gone. into a bank pretend like he exists in. August of 1995 to rob it with a. handgun and he uh everything's going. rather smoothly like a bank robbery. would be if it's if it's successful and. apparently one of the tellers asked him. like do you need a. bag and cl Schmid supposedly said you're.

damnn right it's a real gun I don't know. how you would say that in German do you. uh no and the tellers apparently were. like oh obviously this man is deaf not. that he misheard not that he's super. high strong and anxious right now. because he's robbing a bank he's clearly. deaf so we're going to go ahead and. press the alarm that everybody else can. hear except him. right I think uh we should write a new. version where they're like uh do you. need a a bag and he says what does this.

got to do with. schnitzel that's a good one and they're. like oh he's clearly deaf right uh but. yeah so the alarm he wouldn't have heard. is I guess if the story is true mhm uh. so they're like hey this guy can't hear. anything let's just sound this loud. alarm yeah because that's what banks. have are loud alarms that would totally. alert any other uh bank robber you just. have to hope that once in a while. somebody who can't hear comes in and. robs the bank and that's exactly what.

allegedly happened with cl Schmidt but. it gets even better Chuck because here's. a Twist that effectively proves that. this is an urban legend that's right uh. apparently according to internet lore uh. CL Schmidt sued the bank for abusing his. disability yeah because they there's no. way this is real essentially tricked him. by pressing an alarm that he couldn't. hear which led to him being caught by. the police. yeah I I'm glad we co ate it but it was. kind of fun to pick apart it's so it's.

great because you go on the internet and. you read stuff like this and if you're. not like looking out for it you could. just be like wow I got to tell you this. story of this CLA Schmid it's amazing. yeah they used to call it hey Martha. stories I think in the uh either the. inquire or the world Weekly News oh. really yep because you wanted the. whoever was reading the paper like the. husband to be like hey Martha get hello. to this one I like that yeah uh all. right we'll go on to number five here. with James blank ship uh in Willoughby.

Ohio this in June. 2013 um James was uh trying to rob his. own mother's house uh during the day and. this very key it was in broad daylight. apparently got a little rattled and went. and hid in a crawl space nearby uh the. police got there they caught him and he. uh his big sort of um problem with. getting arrested was you can't get. arrested for burglary during the day. that's what he thought burglary is a.

nighttime crime you cannot take me away. yeah essentially when the cops grabbed. him they they're like what do you mean. you can't charge me with burglary it's. it's. daytime and everybody's like that guy's. the dumbest criminal of all time he. thought that you couldn't get arrested. for burglary because it was Daylight out. and here's the great twist to this which. I found this is a good twist apparently. the old common law definition of. burglary says that it only occurs during. the night time it's breaking and.

entering in someone else's dwelling at. night with an intent to commit a f a. felony therein and that if you commit. the same act during the daytime it's a. lesser crime of trespass so it seems. that James blankin ship had he been. living in the 18th century would have. had quite a case for himself I have a. question for you what uh I meant to look. this up but is burglary specifically. when there's somebody there or does that. matter uh oh I think it definitely.

matters I think if somebody's there it's. considered home invasion that's like a. whole other level like you can in some. states you can get life imprison or. death penalty for a home invasion. depending on what happens and what your. intent was but burglary means you have. to take something otherwise it could. just be B right cuz I was just wondering. because the nighttime thing I mean. obviously I knew that wasn't a thing but. whenever I've I you when I was a kid and. I heard cat burglar you always thought. it was something that happened at night. while you slept right absolutely yeah. but of course a burglary can happen.

during the day but it's just the the. legal system in the United States said. we're going to get rid of that. distinction between trespass and. burglary and it's all burglary no matter. when it happens just the mindblowing. part is that somewhere along the line. James blankin ship that old common law. definition was passed along to him and. he went with it yeah well actually here. we go I looked it up burglary the. official definition is uh entering uh.

entry into a building illegally with the. intent to commit a crime especially. theft but not necessarily theft gotcha. so especially theft I wonder what else. it could be too well I mean there's all. kinds of crimes you could set someone's. uh a bathroom on fire not metaphorically. so I guess you you would be charged with. you'd be charged with arson and burglary. then in that case I guess I don't know. maybe burglar is one of those crimes. they can just kind of tack on just. because you're in someone's house man we. would make Super Lawyers wouldn't we I.

think so we' just hash it out in open. court yeah the thing I also love most. about James blank and ship's story is. that his mother's house was the one he. was trying to break into like you said I. just love that and apparently she found. him and he he went eek and like ran off. now I'm just picturing us as attorneys. co- attorneys in court like looking up. definitions on our phone yeah and the. judge just being like do you guys have. licenses to practice law I know no sir. we don't but we did a podcast for 16.

years where we dabbled in Legally yeah. and then I'd pipe up and be like and we. stayed at a holiday and express last. night I was like this sounds like. something that's exactly what I was. thinking I think I would look a lot like. Gil from The Simpsons in court as a. lawyer who was Gil the guy like the hard. luck guy from Jack Lemon from Glen Gary. Glenn Ross oh but was that he was a he. was on The Simpsons he was a recurring. character um yeah he was just gilund oh.

okay yeah yeah I see him now Gil I. remember Gil now something like Lu's got. to come for old Gil right po man that. would be me in court as your. lawyer all right. Esquire should we take a break or keep. going let's keep going let's do one more. and then we'll take another break all. right so let's talk about the story of. Darren. kton uh this fellow was in England in. 2013 and abing Abington England. specifically. yeah and this is a pretty interesting.

one because uh not only had Darren kton. um already broken into a house earlier. that day so this was Darren's second. attempt at a break-in that same day but. the house that Darren chose to broke. into the second time it was that House's. second break-in of the day yeah because. when Darren showed up to break in found. there was already a window busted out. was like this is perfect and went inside. there were police there inside still.

dealing with the details of the previous. break-in case earlier that day that's. Gil Darren kton is Gil yes uh he um. apparently said in court that he was. trying to steal so that he could buy. presents for his elderly parents. Christmas. presents um he was apparently also. addicted to heroin and his lawyer. described him as clumsy and pathetic. yeah and so obviously if this guy's got. a serious drug addiction maybe he was.

buying stuff for his parents maybe not I. have a little bit more empathy here and. don't want to make too fun of the guy. but he did leave a trail of blood uh. from his first break-in leading to the. second so that then connected him to. that first crime as well right so there. was just no way that Darren kton was. ever going to get away with these these. crimes either one of them he had a bad. day basically he broke into a house full. of cops yeah like you don't do that very. often I've seen other stories too um I.

didn't research them so I'm not sure how. true they are of people like holding up. there was one where somebody like tried. to rob a Walmart During the shop with a. cop day for like the local orphanage or. something like that yeah and the place. was just full of cops there's plenty of. times where it's just been like bad. timing um or yeah you just broke into. the wrong place at the wrong time or. tried to rob the wrong place at the. wrong time so it's not like Darren. kimpton's alone Hunter S Thompson. remember when he uh with a headful of. drugs stumbl into the Police Convention.

that's right and then he stole the. briefcase with the drug samples in him. yeah I want to go back and read some of. his I read you know uh Fear and Loathing. of course. and what other one did I read Rum. Diaries or maybe it was fear and Loa on. the campaign Trail mhm but there were a. couple of more that I always meant to. get back to but I kind of went through. my hunteress Thompson phase and and quit. reading him but he's such a great writer. I mean I know everyone always just sort. of uh if you weren't a reader actual.

reader of his you might think that he. was just that crazy guy that did drugs. and you know made a name doing that but. he was a fantastic writer just Absolut. like one of the better journalists who. ever walk the earth for sure just. amazing stuff I think that going back to. him might be Folly though I think like I. think he's like Bukowski like there is a. specific set of years typically in like. your early 20s you're listening to the. doors yeah were you're reading Hunter. Thompson and read eating Bukowski and. yeah doing all sorts of other things and.

that as you age you might find that you. don't appreciate him quite as much as. you used to I have an admission that's. since we're just having fun with this. episode in my 20s I actually bought a uh. one of Jim Morrison's poetry books oh I. used to listen to American Prayer like. ceaselessly that was really good yeah. did you like American Prayer it's fine I. mean I I kind of I can like there's some. real bangers at the do did and I can go. back and listen to that now and.

appreciate some of those songs but it. definitely for some reason just feels. like a time and place in your life when. you thought he was like the most amazing. deep soul on on planet Earth right now. I'm a little older I'm like Jim Morrison. come on yeah it's weird for some reason. the that same period with Bukowski and. Hunter Thompson and Jim Morrison is also. like upon reflection very cringey it. seems like a lot of times too yeah yeah. I'm cringing right now whatever that. means these days what cringy did you say.

like me right now yeah I'm cringing. right now just thinking about it all. right but American Prayer was good I'll. stand by that was that the the song the. book what was that it now I'm confused. it was essentially like a Sonic book of. his poetry that the doors I think put. together after his death years and years. later and it was like they played. Snippets of some of their other songs it. was like stuff mixed in yeah and the.

whole thing from like start to finish is. essentially one long thing there's. obviously like discreet like red poems. that Jim Morrison's reading yeah um but. the whole thing like as a single package. was really well done if I remember. correctly I don't want to go back and. listen to it again because I just want. to I just want to keep it as is in my. memory no totally I mean why ruin that. for yourself exactly that's why I urge. you not to go back and read Hunter. Thompson okay okay he's dead to.

me well he really is yeah uh you want to. take a break now yeah let's take a break. and we'll do our uh or should we no. let's take a break and we'll do our our. top three CU they're a little more. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music]. robust learning stuff s. josua and.

Sh stuff you should. know all right next up on the list at. number three we have one Ruben uh I'm. going to say. Zarate yeah that's how I took it or. zerati yeah this is in 2008 uh he was 18. years old at the time and he tried to. ride a uh to rbe to rob a muffler shop. it's like bribing and robbing at the. same time yeah uh a muffler shop in.

Chicago uh but here's the hook is that. when he got there uh the person working. and this was the manager uh Jose Ceda. Sid M he said the cash is here but the. cash is actually in a safe and only the. opener knows the safe code. combination and uh he's not going to be. here for a few hours and hey let's stick. it to this guy you come back I'll let. you know when he's here if you give me. your number and you give me a cut of.

this thing brilliant plan to think of on. the fly it really is so Zera is like oh. okay well cool I'm In Cahoots with this. guy here's my number call me when the. owner comes in and then I'll come back. and Rob the muffler shop just amazing. I'll give you a taste of the money that. I take from it right uhhuh so he did he. left and then uh Jose Ceda called the um. the cops and told him what was going on. he waited 25 minutes for some reason but. he did call the cops and um the story.

starts taking some dark turns around now. because the cops are like this is great. we're going to use you as as bait as. decoy and you call the guy but let us. get there first and hide in the back in. like the garage the workshop of the. garage he said it'll be so great you're. going to love it yeah it's G he's going. to be so surprised he's like you got. like an engine block I can hide behind. oh yeah yeah okay perfect he's like I'm. going to pretend like I'm changing oil. I've always wanted to do that do you. have a jumpsuit for me so um so Ruben. Zar or Jose Ceda calls Ruben Zar he's.

like hey the owner's here come on back. and Rob the muffler store that I'm the. manager of and so Ruben zor comes back. to rob the store and apparently he said. because he sued the city of Chicago. after this he said that he got to the. door and opened it and before anything. before anyone said anything the cops. just started shooting at him so he. turned and ran they shot him in the back. it inflicted a life life-threatening. that apparently only surgery would have.

would have saved his life with he did. have the life-saving surgery and then. lived to sue the city I could not find. out what happened but um he his story. was actually backed up by one of the uh. the people who worked at the shop too. yeah basically they sort of Co God. always they agreed and said that uh I. was like my Porky Pig moment um that the. cops didn't even announce themselves. that they were cops before they started. shooting right so yeah this is a.

worldclass Ruben Zera story everybody. that you just heard like this was real. research if you read the Ruben Zera. story all you hear is about a criminal. who was dumb enough to leave his number. yeah so he could be called to come back. and Rob the place and now it makes a. little more sense and you find out that. Ruben's ride who was shot in the back by. the cops it also featured for my money. one of your best jokes in a long long. time time that was very under the radar.

which one the one you said the the cop. said I want to pretend like I'm changing. oil I've always wanted to do I'm glad. you like that oh that was good oh man. okay so that was number three and we're. going uh. two one zero so our top four I forgot. that was a zero all right I'm you really. are mad about the zero aren't you well. it's just just really threw me hey man. we've gotten 28 minutes out of this so.

far I'm amazed all right let's talk. about Albert Bailey uh this was in. 2010 uh Bailey and this is was had an. accomplice but it was a juvenile so we. don't know the name of the accomplice. said all right let's Rob this bank it's. Fairfield Connecticut it's a good place. to rob a bank and to make this happen. quicker what bayy did was call the bank. head of time and said I'm coming to Rob. this thing so get all that money. together so doesn't take us very long. while we're in there like this is one of.

the stories that no this is legit like. this legitimately happened just like. this um CT Insider which I'm guessing is. short for Connecticut Insider I think so. they did a story on it uh after I think. shortly after it and that that's exactly. what happened like like biley Albert. Bailey called the bank and said get the. money together he said some other things. too that made the bank really worry he's. like we're not afraid to take hostages.

and turn the place into a blood bath so. the bank's like okay well we're just. going to hang up now and call the cops. well also uh said this is key don't call. the cops because we're going to be. monitoring uh the police scanner yeah. typically Banks don't listen to you when. you call them ahead of time but also. tell them not to call the cops so they. did they called the cops immediately and. as they were calling the cops they went. to go lock the doors which is another. thing that you would do as a bank but. Albert Bailey. was one step ahead of them because his.

uh unnamed juvenile accomplice who. turned out to be his 16-year-old cousin. was already in the bank and happened to. be carrying a briefcase and when they. locked the doors he said do you see my. little uh accomplice over there give him. the money so it kind of takes a turn. this guy's calling the bank ahead of. time but he's he's thought a little. further along than you might give him. credit for initially totally yeah when I. got to that point in the story I was. like okay all right all right I may have. misjudged to over Bailey yeah a little. bit so the cousin's already in there cuz.

immediately when the bank was like well. let's just go lock the door like like. that kind of solves the problem right. there right uh but um now they've locked. themselves in with the bank robber yeah. yeah so the bank robber's in there which. is the 16e or the the accomplish or. whatever is in there I guess bank robber. sure and um the teller actually puts. money in the briefcase and the the kid. left the bank the 16y left with this. money cuz I guess it just it still took. the cops a little bit of time to get. there uh police said that they uh when.

they got there he was walking out to the. car uh outside uh to where Bailey was. waiting in uh in his car in a nearby. apartment or condominium complex um but. they really did have a police scanner um. they surrendered but they like they had. walkie-talkies they had a robbery list. of things to do right to do and they had. a working police scanner tuned into that. frequency so that was not a bluff. there was something else that stood out. to me the um CT Insider story says that.

the uh 16-year-old cousin wordlessly put. the briefcase on the teller's counter. and so weird I suspect it is Weird Al. bet it was creepy but I suspect that I. guess Albert Bailey was maybe looking. out for his cousin first of all he's a. juvenile so he's underage so don't say. anything yes don't say put the money in. the bank don't say I'm robbing the bank. don't say anything and essentially as. far as a judge is concerned this kid was.

basically a tool an extension of Albert. Bailey who you could argue as being used. against his own will that stood out to. me I I'm I'm supposing here but it seems. like that might have been the the idea. behind his his cousin not saying. anything in the bank I wonder if they. said do you want large bills and he said. damn right it's a gun and they're like. oh let's press the alarm they're like. this seems uncannily familiar to a story. I've heard around the campfire fire. making s'mores. one so there was one more little point.

to this one that you found though that. was pretty good um first of all Bailey. had just gotten out of prison sevene. stint for robbing another People's Bank. in Bridgeport Connecticut mhm uh but the. uh bayy said this time he said uh you. know I I was kidnapped earlier and some. guy kidnapped me and he put a bomb in my. pocket yeah and said that he was unless. I robbed this bank for him he was going. to blow me up which sounds very.

strangely familiar compared to um. remember the Brian Wells story the pizza. man the pizza delivery man who really. did have a collar bomb put around him. and forced to rob a bank yeah the collar. bomb Heist episode exactly that happened. the same year that Ronald Bailey said it. happened to him 2003 that was not a. widely known story I think at the time. was it uh it sort of was I mean I don't. know if it was where was that do you. remember Erie Pennsylvania Pennsylvania.

Connecticut same side of the country. yeah I guess so people talk between. those two states right sure okay but I. just thought that was very odd same year. so I guess he was either inspired by the. story or it's just coincidence he came. up with the same idea yeah that man that. was a good one it was poor Brian Wells. Man good Lord like to the whole thing. that whole if I remember correctly that. whole story the way it's going it's just. so mad capap and nut. that there's no way he's actually going. to die and then he dies yeah and it's.

just so sad he's just such a Hess dude. that just that that happened to it's. another Gil he is very much so and then. um do did you see I think it was called. Mastermind the Netflix special on the. the woman who who devised that plan um. yeah I saw it back then I think when we. recorded it that was good it was good. and while we're talking about it I just. want to shout. out I don't remember the director's name. well enough to try to pronounce it but.

the guy who directed The. Lobster oh yeah sure I finally saw the. lobster Chuck and I asked you about it. and you're like yeah like eight years. ago but you did agree it's a good movie. right yeah that it's uh jorus Lanos I. think I think so yes that sounds right. he's great yeah he is and the thing that. turned me on to him was I just took a. chance and watch the killing of a sacred. deer boy and it is really good it's it's. definitely different than the lobster. but Colin Ferell is just perfect as this.

just dead pan bone dry character that he. plays in both of those yeah he's great. uh he also did the favorite in the. academy awardwinning poor things from. last year oh I didn't see that I didn't. know about that oh hang on to your hats. and watch poor things okay great yeah I. want everything that guy's doing yeah. yeah I won't even tell anything about it. but you should also go back and watch. his early um foreign. language film uh dog dog tooth okay I.

started Alps which is another one I have. not seen Alps but from his early work. the only one I've seen is dog tooth uh. which was also. disturbing uh and he's he's great like. he's one of the sort of brilliant. directors working today I think I think. brilliant is an excellent word to. describe him and you were kind of. bagging on Colin uh phell Colin phoh a. little bit and I think he's he's great. you need to see some more of his good.

stuff what's his good stuff well did you. see in Brugge or I couldn't make it. through him Bru oh wow yeah well then. you probably didn't watch the the recent. one the um with Brendan Gleason the same. one uh the same guy he was in in Bru. with uh the Banshees of in. airin no but I saw that served up to me. on whatever streaming service I was. watching it on no I mean I think think. it's great and it's actually got uh. Barry uh I don't know how you pronounce.

his name Keegan I guess or kogan that. kid is good he's in killing of a sacred. deer yeah yeah so you you'd probably uh. you'd probably like this I think okay. all right well I'll give it a shot very. Quirk quirky Irish movie yeah and then. uh I also went back and watched Black. Swan again last night and it is oh boy. that is such a good movie it's crazy I. saw that in the theater and I haven't. seen it since I saw it because um youi. and I went to go see Swan Lake at. Kennedy Center in DC it was amazing we. stayed at the Watergate and then walked.

over to the K Center and watched Swan. Lake it was I was like this is probably. the most cultured thing I've ever done. in my entire. life it was great great well also. staying at the Watergate and going to. see Swan Lake that was very 7s esque. experience super for sure but like. having seen it uh now and then watching. Black Swan it just makes you appreciate. it that much more it's a good movie all. right here's what I say we do I'm going. to have a quick recommendation of. something I've been watching okay and I. say that in that time you pick one of.

these two to do a don't it's like. picking between my two children do we. have to do them both no we can just do. one I already know I already know which. child I'm going with I know uh but. before we uh get to that uh since this. is just a sort of a freewheeling episode. I'm going to recommend the great great. show uh Ripley oh really that is on. Netflix right now the Tom Ripley stuff. yeah it's the The Talented Mr Ripley the. Tom Ripley story but it is told over. eight. episodes uh it is in the most gorgeous.

black and white that I may have ever. seen uh and I want to shout out the uh. the DP the cinematographer Brendan. Gleason that's very funny but no it was. uh the the legendary cinematographer. Robert elswit who uh besides shooting. all of PT Anderson's movies he shot in. another 40 other like major movies. you've heard of oh cool but he did the. great black and white work in uh good. night and good luck ah yeah that was.

good black and white stuff and it's just. stunning photography and um the guy who. plays Ripley what's his name he was in. uh he was in flea bag uh what's his name. Emily has a real crush on him uh Brendan. Gleason no it's a good one though Andrew. Scott uh Andrew Scott's in it and Dakota. Fanning is in it and it's just really. really really well done and I think fans. of the book uh or maybe more book is it. more than one book yeah it's a series.

yeah I think fans of the book series are. I think it's a lot more true to that so. they seem to be pretty um happy about it. yeah uh but the other guy that's in it. is Sting's son uh Jeff ell no Elliot. sner sting son this guy he plays Freddy. and I was like who is this guy where. have I seen him I was like oh it's young. sting basically oh cool they're good huh. yeah nice pretty good and looks like. young sting okay well I uh we'll check. it out but I do have a question though.

did you watch all eight episodes yet no. I'm on uh I think we finished six last. night so I got a couple more that so. that's my problem with the like limited. series is they start out like like like. Gang Busters basically um and then they. just pet her out like at episode four. five six sometimes and I like it just. almost all of them dud they're so rare. that they make it through all eight. episodes or 10 episodes or whatever.

where you're not like yep didn't need. two of those episodes easily this is. doesn't feel padded to me it's it's. really really good so far and I don't. think it'll pet her out um because it's. just getting sort of uh climaxing in. here toward the end I have to say Chuck. it just struck me as ridiculously. audacious for me to be complaining about. people padding their Series in the. middle of this episode that's pretty. pretty rich all right so we'll finish up. but also should recommend uh fallout the. the TV show about the video game Fallout.

one of the few video games I've played. on Amazon Prime with the great great. great Walton gagin it's one of my. favorites yeah you go you snuck one more. in huh well that means we're doing the. last two of these no no no don't punish. me uh let's talk about Dennis Hawkins. Hey. NOP oh you wanted to do the last guy. yeah you didn't like the last guy oh. okay I thought you were gonna go with. Dennis Hawkins no I thought the last guy. was had a great twist to it but all. right let's let's do it James Washington. everyone can look up Dennis Hawkins if. they want to know about him yeah there. you go great idea look up Dennis Hawkins.

and and you'll pretty much get the whole. the whole thing just from looking at a. picture of him all right hit me so James. Washington is this guy who is doing 15. 15 in the clink in. Nashville uh back in 2009 I don't know. how far he was into his 15year sentence. but he was definitely in there for. attempted murder and he was pretty young. age 47 when he suffered a heart attack. uh in prison uh and was taken to the.

hospital and he was like I don't think. I'm going to make it and I guess his. conscience was bothering him because he. had to get something off of his chest he. decided that's right uh as happen. sometimes you hear about this in prison. when someone is is dying or something in. jail or in prison they will admit to. other crimes and that's exactly what. happened in this case when he told the. prison guard hey come over here and the. guy came over there and he was like I. actually murdered uh Joyce Goodner back.

in 1995 I'm dying and I just had to get. this off my chest yeah he said I killed. somebody I beat her to death the guard. said that was James Tomlinson who was. the guard he just happened to be the. closest. person and that would have probably been. that had James Washington died but he. actually took a turn for the better and. recovered and when it became clear to. him that he wasn't going to die he said. uh you remember that thing that I. confessed to I want to go ahead and. recant that yeah and they said no Takis.

paxis no uh we suspected you to begin. with um apparently this was in Nashville. and they knew that he had met uh with. Goodner on the day of her murder he was. a person of interest in the case but. they just didn't have enough to press. charges against and it was an unsolved. case but he confessed and they said all. right I'm glad you're feeling better uh. let's just add a life sentence to your. already long sentence yeah yeah so he. got convicted of it um for his own.

confession that he couldn't couldn't. take back and he didn't die so yeah it's. pretty ironic he didn't die so he got. life in prison that's right uh you got. anything else want to do three or four. more of these you know what's funny is. when we were about a third of the way. through and it was not much was. happening uhhuh I was like oh you know. what we'll do maybe at the end we'll. just do some recommendations like so. many podcasts do that like what they've. been reading or watching yeah I said. maybe we'll just throw that in there for. fun and then we ended up organically.

doing it kind of in. the last third yeah if you introduce the. thought of doing recommendations in the. First Act you have to shoot it off in. the third act that's what they said well. done thanks uh well Chuck said Well Done. everybody and that means I want to. finish on a high note which means it's. time for listener. mail all right I'm going to call this I. don't know this is just sort of a funny. email from one of our listeners all. right about the white dog poop hey guys. my son is a regular listener he tells me.

about your podcast he thinks I would. like nice uh and what guy do you know. that doesn't like to joke about. poop not many not many uh I never. thought about the change in the color of. dog poop and the hardness until you. pointed it out uh but I do remember when. I was in the fifth grade in 1955 this is. one of our you know Elder States. persons uh getting in a white dog poop. fight with one of our neighbors Jerry uh. he had a big black dog and his next door.

neighbors had a big boxer so there were. massive amounts of white dog poop in. both yards I had an advantage because I. wasn't wearing oh because I was wearing. gloves and shering wasn't uh the dog. poop we were throwing was white and hard. I don't remember who won it stopped when. we ran out of white. poop the fight probably resulted in a. tie laughing crying emoji and that is. from uh dear listener Alan white and. alen this just struck me as very cute. and funny and kind of perfect for this.

episode that is a great great great. email thank you very much who was it. that was Allan Allan that's a great one. Allan that's the great thing about. growing up at that age that's right you. used to be able to throw poop at one. another and some some kids wouldn't even. wear gloves when they did it like that. was it was just that kind of Loosey. Goosey time you know yeah not like these. cuddled kid these days with their poop. gloves no they wear two pairs of gloves. when they throw poop. uh well thanks a lot if you want to be. like Allan and reminisce with us we'd.

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