Why Are They Like This? | Reading Reddit Stories

- You know what time it is. We are back with more chaotic Reddit stories, the most insane ones that we can find. And today our guests are Angela and Damien. Thanks for being here. - [Both] Happy to be here, Shayne. (everyone laughs). - You guys have both been here before. You know the drill. - Not together. - [Shayne] Not together. - That iPad is Pandora's box. - I know. Yeah. And it's only bad things. - Good. - No, no, it's sometimes good.

There was the one in episode 14, the story about the GoFundMe that made me cry. And we attached the link to it. And I think last we checked, that GoFundMe's up to 120K. A lot of our viewers donated. Thank you, guys. You made me actually cry. Even more. - Oh. - [Damien] That's wild. - And I think people are still. - And I love that. - [Shayne] It's really cool. - That money is going to continuously go to a good place. Like, it's not like, "All right, we're done. "Fixed." - Right. I think that's what catches me off guard.

is we'll read a bunch of like asshole stories, a bunch of just insane things, and then you read a super wholesome one. and catches you off guard, and I just sob. - [Damien] And that's okay. - So we'll see. I don't know if we're gonna get any of those today, but the theme is chaos. - I hear that crying regulates your cortisol levels. So my goal is to cry today. - Okay, man. - Cool, dude. (everyone laughs). - All right, here we go. First story. - Yay! - "My girlfriend has a weird folder on her phone,

"and I don't know how to talk about it.". This comes from True Off My Chest. "So my girlfriend told me to look for a recipe she saved. "in her screenshots. "I was scrolling, but first got to the folder Fugly Armpits, "and there were more than 200 plus pictures. "I asked her what the folder is about, and she said, "'A few months ago I realized. "'that some skinny people have extremely weird. "'and wrinkly ass armpits, "'so I wanted to check how often I see wrinkly armpits.'. "I looked through the folder. "and there sure were a lot of pictures of just armpits,

"which were wrinkly. "I'm just confused. "I don't know if it's a quirk of hers. "or if I should address it somehow.". - But what's left to address? Because clearly they already approached their girlfriend. and said like, "What is this?". And they're like, "Oh, I realized this thing happened.". What do you say after that? Is there more? - Well, this is just True Off My Chest. So he just wanted to confess. - [Damien] Just spit balling. - He wanted to confess to the internet what's happened. in his life. - That he found this. - Yeah, he's not asking if anyone's the asshole.

or something. That's not that subreddit. So he's just letting us know this weird thing that occurred. I guess, yeah, she's just like, "I like to see wrinkly armpits.". If you had a partner who did that, would you just believe them and just be done, be like, "All right, great. "You can keep having your folder of wrinkly armpits.". - Or I think the question is like, is it appropriate if someone's fascinated. by something that's weird or gross to you, can you be like, "Why?". Right? - You can ask. I guess you can ask, be like,

"Hey, where does that come from?". Where does that come from? (everyone laughs). - Did you have like a good childhood or like... - I'd be like, "What feeling? "You just like to see it?". - 'Cause like that's the thing too, when it's like, "No, I realize they have weird armpits.". So weird is a very specific phrase. of like there's a little bit of judgment on there. So it's like are you getting some joy out of body shaming. or is it just the same thing. of just like a pimple popping video where you're like, "This feels good somehow.". - Yeah. So there is an edit here.

- Okay. - "No, my girlfriend doesn't have an armpit fetish. "She told me she's saving them. "because it's like looking at a train wreck. "I asked her if she wants to do armpit stuff in bed. "and she immediately said, 'Ah, hell no. "'Don't ever touch me there.'". - He goes, "Can I stick my (beep) in your armpit?". (everyone laughs). - I just like him sitting down just being like, "Babe, do you...". - [Angela] Do you? - "Want me to stick my (beep) in your armpit?". (everyone laughs). - "I can be that guy for you.".

- Because that was my question is like, okay, if it's a separate folder on her phone, like I would just be like, "Oh, is this a sex or love thing," right? I think that's the only appropriate question he can ask. because it's his business kind of as her partner maybe. But like if she's just into that, like if you had a folder of weird cloaks. - You can't even come up with a thing that's similar. is how weird this is, Angela. Like, it's weird. - The last thing he says here is, "She also said it's like watching '600 Pound Life,'.

"but in an armpit version, so now we know, LOL.". I guess her explanation she likes looking at, she's just captivated by people who have ugly armpits. - Here's the thing, I think the weirdness almost makes us more forgiving of it. because it's something we haven't heard before. But if it were any other like more regularly seen thing. that you would maybe body shame or someone would body shame, that's when you'd be like, "Ooh, you're not so great a person.".

Like, you know, "I keep a folder of like ugly faces. "Like, look how ugly this dude is.". It'd be like, "Oh my god. "Like, why are you doing that?". But because it's armpits, we're like, "I guess what ya like.". - I don't think I've ever looked at an armpit and been like, "That's an ugly armpit.". - But there's no good armpits. Armpits are weird. - Yeah, armpits are weird. - I also think just take armpit out of it. This person has an album of something that isn't hers. on her phone that she goes to to feel fun? - She must have found these on the internet though. She's not taking photos of other people's armpits.

- Exactly. So these are like, these are stock images or whatever. - I don't know why she doesn't just google ugly armpits. - See, that's my thing. I'm like if she did find this on the internet. and not just like around like in other people's photos, like why save it to your phone? Like, there would probably be a Reddit community. of like armpit town. - There's gotta be. There's a subreddit for everything. - But this is, I think she's lying and it is a sex thing. - You think so? - [Shayne] It's possible. - Why would you have it on your phone? I feel like the only reason why people have albums. that they refer back to are pictures of themselves. or their family or their dogs or like memes.

Like, who's gonna be like, "Oh, I have an album of sunsets I've never seen, "but they're from the internet and I go to.". Like, who does that? - But I will say like if it were a sex thing, you know, that folder was immediately available, it wasn't like locked or hidden or anything like that, and when approached it was like, "Oh no, this is a thing that I like.". And he was like, "Do you want something sexual with this?". And she's like, "Absolutely not.". - She threw up right there. - Profusely in his eyes. That made her attracted to him. - That is so weird. - I just doubt it's a sex thing.

- The comments here. "LOL, that's about the mildest weird thing you could find. "in a folder on your partner's phone.". - [Damien] That's true. - "I don't think you have much to worry about. "unless she starts obsessing over your armpit or something.". OP responded to that saying, "Sometimes when I lift my arms, "my girlfriend is just like, "'Oh, your armpits are so pretty.'. "So I don't know, LOL. "I take it as a compliment, haha.". So she does have a... (crew laughs). - [Angela] Bro! - She wants to (beep) his armpit. - She wants to put her (beep) in his armpit. (everyone laughs).

- Scissor pits. - Someone said, "If someone found my," (laughs). Scissor (laughs). - Sorry, that was a bit of a sleeper for you, huh? - Yeah, that took a second. - It really hits in the second wind. - It really does. - Someone said, "If someone found my memes folder in my phone, "I'd probably be put on a watch list or something.". And then someone else said, "If that is the worst thing about her, she is a keeper.". - No, no, no, no. I find this even weirder. You know when something's so weird. that you can't put a box around it? This is weird, this is weird. - Would this be like a red flag deal breaker for you?

- I think this is 'cause I can't put my brain, I can't get my brain to understand why. It makes it weirder to me. - I would almost think that it's like, it's a me problem. If I found my partner had this, I'd be like, "I can't wrap my head around. "I'm sorry. "I need to go to therapy because I can't figure this out.". (everyone laughs). - I think you should talk to a therapist about it for sure. And be like, "Hey, I know you can't diagnose another person. "through me, but just between you and me, what?". - And your therapist's like (yells). (everyone laughs).

- Run, run! (Shayne laughs). I feel like for myself, as long as we could get to the bottom of things. and make sure there wasn't an aspect. of like you enjoy shaming people, like you feel better about yourself. because you enjoy looking down at people, because that's gonna come out in other ways. But if it's truly just like, "This is my weird thing. "Some people build trains in their basement. "Some people spend thousands of dollars on Legos. "I like armpits, and it's free.". I'd be like, "All right.". - Yeah, people are obsessed with pimple popping. and stuff like that. - That's rough too.

- Yeah, I guess videos are different to me. 'cause that's content, but a picture? That you just look at. - [Damien] Just pondering it. - And it's not a sex thing, so you're just looking at it. 'cause it's just fun to look at? - And her comparing it to "My 600 Pound Life,". but "My 600 Pound Life" is a TV show. - There's a story. - With arcs to the episodes and production. and all sorts of stuff. These are photos. Just looking at a photo. - But at its core there is still this. like voyeuristic aspect of like, "Wow, look at how different that person looks than I do.". - [Shayne] Yeah.

- Or, "How different someone's experience is than mine is.". And so like, I've never seen that show, but like I would imagine there's an aspect to it. of just like, "Wow, like look at what that's like.". Same kinda thing with the pits. I'm not a fan of either of those, but it's like, if that's your thing, like... - Sure, sure, sure. (Damien laughs). - [Shayne] I don't know. - [Damien] Are you already emotionally exhausted. from story one? - I say this is wild. - [Damien] It is, it's weird. - I wonder how many comments. we're gonna get about this story. Okay, next one here. This comes from Am I The Asshole. "Am I the asshole for being petty.

"when my cousin kicked me off her Hulu account?". Okay. "I, a female 23, am currently at college. "I live with roommates, "and I don't have a lot of money at the moment. "I can afford necessities, "but I need to count my pennies before buying any luxuries. "I have a cousin, Jean, who's a female 27, "who I'm fairly close with. "I don't have any siblings, "and I think of her as the sister I never had. "Last year, I was in a much better financial position. "It eventually went downhill. "due to me being unexpectedly laid off from my job.

"and a bunch of surprise expenses, "hence why I'm not doing so great now. "Last year, Jean was in a tough spot as she had car problems. "and had to move back in with her parents. "after getting evicted from her apartment. "She was working a minimum wage job. "and was really struggling. "I paid the mechanic bill for her car which was around $300, "and I loaned Jean an additional $900. "to help her with her expenses. "I know the whole deal about loaning family members money. "and wasn't too worried. "about whether or not she'd ever pay me back. "Jean paid me back $400 five months later.

"and told me she'd pay back the rest when she could, "but she never did. "Once again, I don't mind. "I know she needed the money. "I'd feel absolutely evil if I watched her be unable. "to afford necessities when I could have helped. "But here's where I could be an asshole. "A couple of months ago, "Jean started a Hulu account that she pays for. "She gave me the login and told me I can use it. "Last week, I noticed that I couldn't log into the account. "and texted Jean to ask about it. "She read the text but didn't respond for a few hours. "So I called her.

"Her boyfriend picked up, "and he told me that they changed the password. "and explained that he doesn't think it's reasonable. "that I get to use their Hulu without paying for it. "He said if I wanna share the account again, "I should contribute to cover the cost. "of upgrading the subscription to unlimited devices. "I told him, 'That's fine, but no thanks. "'I'd rather not then. "'I'll get my streaming fix elsewhere.'. "I might have come off as abrupt or blunt I guess. "because Jean later called me. "and accused me of being condescending. "and disrespectful to her boyfriend.

"I apologized. "and told her I didn't mean to come off that way. "and repeated our conversation to her. "Jean said she was sorry but they can't let me freeload. "I laughed and told Jean. "that she can't possibly be calling me a freeloader. "She said I am if I'm just going to use her. "for the subscription. "I told her that I thought we had a relationship. "where we helped each other out. "and brought up the money I loaned her, "which she hadn't even paid back fully. "Jean called me petty. "and said that doesn't make me entitled to use her account. "I told her I don't even flipping care.

"about the Hulu account. "She said I'm materialistic for keeping score. "and told me to leave her alone and hung up the phone. "My aunt and parents are now also saying I'm petty. "and telling me to apologize to Jean. "as I'm not treating her like a good family member. "Am I the asshole?". - The amount of stories I have either, you know, heard on this show or just in general. where it's like everything was fine. and then a boyfriend showed up and said-. - Yes, that's so true. - "Your sister should do this.".

And then it's like, "Well, I guess I should.". - That is so true. - "Hey, I never thought about it that way.". - [Damien] Yeah, I'm just like, "Damn!". - I know. It's unfortunate. - It is so accurate. - Yeah, I mean this sucks. And it's like they had such an easy thing. It was not a problem. Boyfriend swoops in, suddenly huge problem. - I know. And now her aunt. She's like, "And now my aunt is piling on.". - I'm always pissed about stories. where the whole family sides with-. - It's wild. - That does suck.

- I know this is the person like narrating what happened. to them, so like assuming that nothing is being left out, that's absurd. Of course they're not the asshole. Like, it's so unfortunate when you find. that you are somebody that is willing to make accommodations. for others and like, you know, obviously without communication, you can't always expect the same accommodations. to be made for you. But like that's a big jump. That's a big leap to be like, "Sorry, it's $3.50 a month.". - They're not even explaining that it's like, "Oh, we don't have enough devices to do this now.".

It just kind of sounds like they're just drawing a line. of like, "No, you don't get to have this anymore.". It's like-. - [Damien] It wouldn't be right. - Can you at least explain like your reasoning? Like, they could have gone about being like, "Hey, actually, so now that my boyfriend's living with me, "we need the two devices, "so it's gonna be a little harder to share the account.". If they had just gone about it more reasonably, but instead they were just immediately like, "You're a piece of shit.". - Yeah, exactly. - "For wanting this Hulu account, you're a freeloader.". It's like whoa! - Whoa! - Slow down.

- I imagine that she was like thrown off on the phone, and he hung up, and then a bad game of telephone happened. He was like, "She's so pissed, babe.". - Oh yeah. - And then that got her pissed, and she wasn't pissed. She was just thrown off. because that's an insane thing to do. - My like biggest trigger in life in general. is like being misunderstood. - [Angela] Oh yeah. - Like, just having someone, like there was something a few months back. where someone was like, "Oh yeah, I heard you did this thing.". I was like, "No, that was the person that was next to me. "I didn't do that thing. "Like, I would never do that thing.". Then I was like, "Wait, who told you I did that thing?

"How many people talked about this?". And I like had a full blown panic attack. So like that's all it takes is for someone to be like, "Yeah, apparently your sister blew up. "It's crazy.". - Oh gosh. - Drive me nuts. - So doing the math here, it sounds like Jean never paid her back like $500. She loaned her 900. Or wait, hold on, I think it's even more. - [Damien] There's 300 for basic expenses. - "$300 and I loaned Jean an additional $900.". So $1,200 total. Jean paid back $400 five months later.

So there's still $800 of unaccounted expenses. - And how much is a Hulu subscription? Just right now. - I think it's like $12.99 a month. or something to that effect. - So it would take years to accumulate. to what this money she owes her. Now, I guess it could be, if they wanna be really intense and be like, "Yeah, you've had this Hulu account of mine for a year.". That adds up to what. But I think something I've noticed from stories I've heard. from people of loaning money.

is that it's not only a matter of you may not get paid back, but that person, whether they're family or a good friend. or something, they might act like that never happened. Like, that money, "Oh, what do you mean? "Like, no. "Not only am I not paying you back, "you never loaned me money,". is almost what it starts to become. And that's what it sounds like here is just like, "That never existed.". - No. - And it's like forgetting the past, and it's insane. $800 is a lot of money.

Having said that, she does point out early in the story. of knowing that she probably wouldn't be paid back. - Yeah. - She's like, "I know that's a possibility.". However she did also bring it up again to her. And like, look, here's the thing, you loan someone money, you understand I may not get it back, but you're gonna always, you're gonna keep that in mind. And I think it's more just the, it's more the emotions of it that's hurting her. than the actual money. It's just like, "Wait, you're pretending like I didn't loan you $1,000.".

- Yeah. - "That's insane. "You're calling me a freeloader? "And I loaned you $1,000 less than, you know, "however long ago.". - Does she bring it up when the Hulu thing comes up? - They fight about it, and I believe she says, "But they can't freeload. "I laughed and told Jean. "that she can't possibly be calling me a freeloader.". - So that came first the freeloader comment. - "I told her that I thought we had a relationship. "where we help each other out, "and I brought up the money I loaned her, "which she hadn't even paid back fully. "Jean called me petty. "and said that doesn't make me entitled to use her account.".

- Here's the thing, when you accept money or like help from someone in any way, if you feel like you owe somebody something, that is a big power dynamic difference. - Yes, I was just gonna say that. - Yeah, absolutely. So like it's a power dynamic difference, and there is always the potential. of someone holding that over your head. But it sounds to me, you know, maybe I'm looking too much into this, but it sounds to me like the sister. that was loaned the money has done that to herself already. Like, maybe already feels like there's.

that position of like, you know, "She's gonna bring this up. "She's gonna bring this up.". And then finally when it's like, "You're a freeloader.". It's like, "Well, I gave you money.". It's like, "I knew you would bring that up.". And it's like, you know, it's just gonna be messy either way. But like it doesn't sound like she was otherwise abusing. that position. - With the information we have here, no. - Is it an older sister or younger sister. that was loaned the money? - It's a cousin who's like a sister. - Oh. - Yeah, it's not an actual sister, but she said she's like the sister she never had. - And that hurts too.

if you are calling a cousin like the sister I never had, and then there's this level of like general disrespect. about things. - Some comments here. "Maybe Jean should cancel her Hulu account. "and use the money she saved to pay you back.". Someone else said, "Not the asshole. "You're not being petty. "Call it a lesson learned and move on. "Also remember everyone who took her side. "and make sure they're on your do not help list. "The same thing will happen if you help them out.". This is an unpopular opinion maybe,

but she talks about she doesn't have siblings. This is like the only, like a really close family member. It would suck if this becomes a thing. that completely separates them for the rest of their life. - Yeah. - It would. - I do think that would suck. - Not the money, not the $800. - My thought is hopefully this boyfriend is the catalyst. that's causing this rift. and maybe that means someday they won't be together. and it will help. But it would suck. It would suck 'cause then it's like, oh man, but we don't know anything about her life. Maybe she has a lot of friends and stuff. - My hypothesis is that the money,

this is a huge assumption, but that the money she was lent was before the boyfriend. was in the picture or he didn't know. - It sounds like that. - [Damien] I would agree about that. - So that she's living kind of. in a different version of the truth. where the boyfriend isn't in the same like history. and context of this, of what went down. - Yeah, I guess we don't really know. - Yeah, we don't know. - That's my hope. - I do also think that like they are both very young. So like that is a time. where you run into people of extremely, like there's a big disparity in maturity.

Like, there could be, how old is she? 23, it says? - Yeah. - Yeah, there could be a 23-year-old. that's like very like emotionally well-adjusted. and knows how to deal with conflict, et cetera. And then there're like 23-year-olds. who are like still mentally like very much, just they don't have a lot of life experience. or don't know how to deal with anything. outside of their own little bubble. If the aunt is taking, you know, the cousin's side, it sounds like maybe. that whole family isn't emotionally super mature. - [Shayne] Yeah. - It's a mess, and I feel really bad for her. - I think a thing though. that I can't help but keep thinking about is that. if you have a streaming service.

and you add someone else to it, unless you have to upgrade to have more devices, it may not cost you any more. - Exactly. - Hulu you do. - Hulu you do? - You do. - Okay. - 'Cause there's a limited amount of devices. But that being said, that also means that they chose to put the boyfriend. on there as opposed to her, whereas the boyfriend didn't need that streaming service. So the boyfriend being like, "Hey, you know, can I use this,". you know, is more important to the cousin than helping out-. - It's just one of those things where.

if they made that decision, they could have gone about telling her a lot better, and being like, "Hey, like," instead of-. - [Damien] That's true. - 'Cause what happened too is she tried to log in, she just didn't have it. She didn't text her back. She finally calls, and they're like, "Hey, yeah, no, you can't have it.". It's like, hey, give her the heads up. - Yeah. - If I have a streaming service. and I'm gonna kick someone off of it, you need to call them and let them know. - Yeah. - Like, I think almost barring everything else. that makes the cousin the asshole because-. - At this point television-.

- [Shayne] Give 'em a heads up. - You're taking away a utility that people need. - Like look, that's communication. The person who's not communicating is typically the asshole. - Yeah. - I agree. - Wild. - Crazy. More wild than armpit photos though? - No, no, no. - All right, next story. Here we go. "Am I the asshole. "for purchasing my guy friend his dream birthday present. "and outshining his girlfriend in the process?". Let's go! - Okay. - Let's giddy up!

- Let's go. Love this one. Okay. "My guy friend, Tom, has been one of my best friends. "since college. "We're in our mid-20s now. "and are both currently in committed relationships. "with long-term partners. "I've never had feelings for Tom, "nor has he ever had feelings for me. "Since college, Tom has been a huge watch fanatic. "Two months ago he was showing me. "this stunning vintage watch. "and made an offhand comment about how he would die of joy. "if he somehow got his hands on one. "Very coincidentally, I was in New York City a few weeks ago. "and stumbled upon this watch store.

"and just so happened to have the exact one Tom wanted. "It was expensive, I won't lie, at about $2,500.". - Ooh. - "But I decided to get it for his 25th birthday. "To me it was basically fate, LOL. "My boyfriend and I do very well financially, "so this was something that I could personally afford. "and wanted to buy for Tom.". - Okay. - "Especially knowing how happy it'd make him. "Tom has a tradition of hosting a dinner party. "at his place for his birthday. "and then following that up with cake and gift opening. "I told him before the dinner. "that my gift was a huge surprise.

"and asked if he could save it for last, and he agreed. "His girlfriend ends up going first, "and she gets him this gorgeous sweater. "that she crocheted for him.". - How did I know it was a sweater? I literally in my mind was like, "It's gonna be a sweater.". Sorry. - "And a book that he's been wanting, "which I thought was super thoughtful and lovely. "Last, it was my gift. "When he opened it and saw what it was, "he literally screamed, hopped over a bunch of people, "and squeezed me in this huge bear hug. "I was so happy to see him happy. "It genuinely filled me with so much joy.

"He even got emotional, and I saw him swipe a few tears. "He also said that it was the best gift he'd ever received. "The whole time his girlfriend was only slightly smiling. "and stayed quiet. "The next morning I got a text. "from his girlfriend that essentially said. "that although she appreciated my thoughtful gift, "she thought that it was a bit out of touch. "and lacking awareness. "She admitted that Tom had also told her about the watch, "and she wanted to get it for him, "but it was way out of her budget. "She accused me of knowing this, I had no idea,

"and still getting it to rub it in her face. "and to outshine her. "She finished by saying. "how she felt like I had overstepped a boundary. "by getting the gift. "and would appreciate me not doing anything similar to it. "again in the future. "I responded and told her. "that while I could see her point of view, "I was just trying to do a nice thing. "for a close friend of mine. "I asked her, 'Wouldn't you rather he gotten the gift. "'and seen the happiness that it brought him. "'than him not getting it at all?'. "She responded that that happiness was only shared. "between me and Tom and no one else.

"and that she felt hurt by my actions. "Only my boyfriend knows about this, and he's on my side. "But thinking through it all again, "I do see how I could have overstepped, "but my boyfriend says that it's not my job to apologize. "for her insecurities. "So am I the asshole here?". So the verdict was not the asshole, which I fully see. because, you know, at least from her point of view, she's financially well off. and she's known this person for a long, long time.

and knew exactly a gift he wanted and got it for her. And the girlfriend clearly feeling very insecure, does not have the same financial situation, cannot afford that gift, feels very threatened, and probably sees that her boyfriend freaked out way more. for this gift than hers. That's why I'm just like, ah, that's tough. But I also see why Reddit said not the asshole. - This is one of those rare situations.

where like nobody is the asshole, but there is an asterisk. because a few things could have been handled a bit better. Like, I can understand absolutely. why the girlfriend would have these feelings. of like disappointment and almost like shame of like, "Well, I couldn't get him that. "I couldn't do that for him.". Like, even if we can logically piece apart like, "Well, you shouldn't. "Like, you know, they're in a different situation,". you might still feel bad seeing your boyfriend get. that happy over someone else's gift. That being said, she loses a little bit of my sympathy.

when she starts to espouse intent to it, where it's like, "You did this to rub it in my face. "You did this to make me feel silly.". Like, that's too much for me. Similarly, you know, the boyfriend, like the best friend who got the watch, you know, he needs to make his girlfriend feel appreciated. in other ways. Like, if he's jumping over the table being like, "Oh, I (beep) love this! "This is the best gift I got so far today and my life!". - "You're the most important person to me right now!".

- "I never cry. "Here are the tears. "(beep) the crochet!". (everyone laughs). - "I've never been emotionally available before, "but for you!". (everyone laughs). Like, it's like... - "For you!". (everyone laughs). - After she spent time crocheting a sweater, you can't say, "This right here is the best gift I've ever gotten.". - "I'm never gonna read a book again. "Not even the one my girlfriend got me.". - "I hate books and I hate sweaters that are crochet. "This is you!". (everyone laughs). (Damien mimics guitar riff). I think I disagree with, sorry, were you done? - No, I was just listening for you.

- I think I disagree with her not being the asshole if, if it is true that the girlfriend also knew about the watch. and that they had talked about it. - That the friend knew about the-. - Yes. - No, okay, so the-. - 'Cause what she accused her of is knowing... Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I know, okay. - You know what I mean? - Yeah, yeah. - You're saying that the friend knew. that the girlfriend also knew about the watch. but couldn't afford it. - Yes. I think then she's an asshole. But I think that could have been like something said.

out of emotion. I don't know. But I also think, the only two caveats I have about this, 'cause I don't think this girl wanted. to intentionally make her feel that way, unless she knew that the girlfriend wanted. to buy him the watch and couldn't afford it, then I think it's kind of an asshole move. Or I do think it's kind of, even if your gift's amazing, I think it's kind of weird to be like, "My gift last.". - That is also weird, I agree. - Okay, that's the thing. that I did feel a little weird about. - That's my one thing. - Of being like, "Oh, open up my gift last,

"'cause mine's the," she knew-. - [Damien] That's true. - She knew her gift was the best. And I will say, look, it's one of those things. where I'm not trying to be like, "Oh, they're the asshole for this.". But I know my own rules in my own head, and if I'm giving a gift to someone, I'm not trying to outshine their partner. or the people who are like maybe the closest to them. Like, I do think what also we see that does happen, and I've lived in LA a long time. I've had friends who are super (beep) rich.

People lose touch of like, that just becomes normal to them. So clearly $2,500 is not that insane for her. - [Damien] Sure. - If she can just be like, "You know what, "I decided to do it. "Why not? "Like, I'll do this.". And you lose touch with like, oh, that's an obscenely large amount of money. for some people. They're gonna be like, "Well, cool. "I could never get that gift.". And that feels like, "Shoot. "You have the ability to make my boyfriend happy. "in ways that I can't.". And it's not a romantic thing, it's just of like, "God dang. "Like, oh, you can affect him in ways I can't.

"because I can't afford it.". - I think it's an intimacy thing. I think it happens not just with money but with time. Like, I've had a friend who I, like one of my best friends who I've been friends with. for so long and I can get her a gift. that means more to her than her current partner. if her and her current partner. have only been dating a little bit. And I know this person, and I can outdo them, and that's kind of uncomfortable when it's like, birthdays are weird especially for people in relationships. 'cause sometimes it's like the person. who they're dating needs to show that they are the one. that loves you the most and they win you.

Like, it gets weird and subtextual and weird. - If it wasn't for the thing of like, "Open mine last-". - [Damien] I agree. - [Angela] Me too. - I would feel different. I don't know why that's rubbing me the wrong way. - No, it's weird. - 'Cause it does make it a little competitive. - It's what makes it finally like clear that they were like, "I know for a fact this is the best, "and I wanna see you have the biggest reaction to this.". And like to your point, Angela, if this person, the gift buyer, did know that the girlfriend was aware of the watch as well. and it wasn't about outshining anyone,

there could have also been a situation where it's like, "You know, hey, I found the watch. "I know it's too expensive. "Do you want to chip in this amount?". - "Do you wanna go in together?". - "Because money doesn't matter together, "and it could be from us.". - There's some important info here. - Okay. - In the comments. "Info, what was the average dollar value. "of the other gifts he got? "You said you didn't know it would be a better gift. "Were the other gifts there also averaging 2 to 3K each?". OP responded, "He got a painting. "that was probably between 2 to 4K, "might have been more expensive than mine.

"He got another that was probably close to $1,000.". Jesus. - Well, no wonder the girlfriend's feeling low. - These people are loaded. They're 25 getting gifts like that? My god. - He got a painting, and his girlfriend gave him a crochet sweater. - [Damien] They're all from the Hamptons. - I think they must be, 'cause being 25 and getting a painting that's $1,000. for your birthday, that's, bro, holy crap. - And also like, I'll say this too, like I've gotten bigger gifts for friends before. Nothing even close to anywhere like even $500 range.

Like, hell no. That's insane. But like anytime I've gotten a gift for somebody. that I feel is like bigger than the situation average, I've done it privately. And I've been like, "Hey, you don't have to tell people about this. "Like, I want you to have this.". That's it. - Well yeah, 'cause then it's a true gift. - [Damien] 'Cause then it's a gift. and you're not being like-. - So wild. "I wanna go last.". - If you're giving a gift-. - [Damien] Right. - Yeah, if someone gave me a gift. and I felt there was an element of like wanting spectacle, I would feel a little-. - Feels yucky. - I would feel a little weird about it.

I also just kind of feel weird. I guess for my birthdays, I haven't done this in a long time. of like really gathering and opening the gifts. in front of everyone. - I know, I thought the same thing. I was like what is this, a baby shower? - I feel like adults, all the adults I know it's kind of like, "Oh, thank you for the gift.". And it's kinda like you do that kind of separately. And I kinda like that. 'cause it doesn't make it a competition. - I do. There's so much obligation also like. when people are watching you, I don't know how to react. and seem genuine and be like, "Wow!". Like, I'm like is it too much? Is it too little? - It's very intense. - So under a microscope. - There's the sweater curse.

Okay, here, hold on. "Although the existence of this effect remains uncertain, "it is a common belief amongst the knitting population. "and several plausible and non-exclusive mechanisms. "for the sweater curse have been suggested. "within knitting periodicals and books. "Unlucky timing. "Knitting a sweater takes a long time, "and the relationship dies of natural causes. "during its making.". - Dies of natural causes. (laughs). - "Catalyst for analyzing the relationship. "Giving or receiving a significant gift.

"such as a sweater may cause either the giver or receiver. "to evaluate the relationship. "For example, the gift may seem too intimate, too domestic, "or too binding to the significant other. "It can be seen as a signal that makes them realize. "that the relationship is not reciprocal, "prompting them to end the relationship. "before it involves obligations.". So with the sweater curse being something we're aware of now. maybe the girlfriend giving him the sweater. was such a big deal. 'cause she knows about the sweater curse. She knows this could be the determining factor.

of whether they stay together or not. She gives him the sweater, and then she sees him get way more excited. about another gift from some someone else. The sweater curse is taking effect. They're gonna break up. - I also wanna bring up like the sweater curse specifically. Not to get too far, you know, left field here. But it could be that when you receive a sweater. and you see that your partner. has spent a lot of time crocheting, you're like, "That's a boring hobby done by boring people.". And you're like, "Oh no!". I'm kidding. - Whoa! - I'm kidding! I'm kidding! - Kiana over there just like, "Come on, man.". - I just wanted to see Shayne's reaction.

That's it. - That is wild. - So also knowing that, I am not familiar with crocheting, but I'm assuming this took a long time to crochet a sweater. So as opposed to everyone else spent thousands of dollars. on their gifts for this guy-. - Don't forget she got him the book too. - That's a $1,000 book. - Yeah, but she spent a lot of time on this. I'm assuming days worth of time. Days worth-. - [Kiana] Months. - Months worth of time. - Yeah, and also like to get that measurement right.

I can't imagine like... - She had to really, she had to look at pictures of his armpits. - Oh. - To figure that out. - That's what it is! (everyone laughs). - Other comments here. "Not the asshole. "You weren't thinking of how to hurt her. "You just wanted a nice gift for your friend. "Your boyfriend is right. "You don't need to apologize for her insecurities.". Someone else said, "I think-". - Okay. - Someone said, "I think yes you are a bit the asshole, "especially since you specifically wanted it. "to be opened last. "because you assumed your gift would be the best. "That hubris alone icks me out.

"But honestly the birthday boy is the biggest asshole here. "as he said that it was the best gift he's ever received. "in front of his girlfriend who gave him a handmade gift. "and who knows how many other gifts she's given him.". - That's true. You're the asshole-. - That's so true. - At a party you say, "This is the best gift ever.". Don't say that shit, man. - At a party you're already making people sit. and watch you open thousand dollar gifts. - [Shayne] It's real-. - Bruh. - There's a lot of stuff that I'm just like, this just isn't my crowd. - [Damien] Not at all. - This is not my crowd. - I will say,

I had an ex one time give me like a needle point Triforce. that she made, and I still have it. 'cause I'm just like it was so, like I realized the amount of time she put into it, and it's one of my favorite gifts. And I'm like, that stuff is supposed to matter. So if you are looking at a material good being like, "This is way better than that!". Like, he is the asshole. - Someone said, "I'd say no one's the asshole. "Both POVs are valid. "She was right to make the gift, "and the girlfriend had valid reasons to be upset, "not being in the position financially. "to make a similar gift, feeling outshined. "OP, next time you find something special and expensive,

"team up with the girlfriend and make a shared gift. "That's the way to become a bridesmaid. "instead of being barred from the wedding.". Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. I think my feeling about this story is that the intentions. and even a lot of the end results aren't the problem. It's how people went about a lot of it that I'm like, this could have all happened exactly the same. but y'all could have done it a little better. - And you know what, he (beep) up. 'cause now he can't wear that watch. without hurting his girlfriend's feelings.

- Oh! You are so right. - If I saw that watch on him, I'd be like (growls). (crew laughs). - And even if it's July and it's 90 degrees out, he needs to wear that sweater everyday. - He needs to wear that (beep) sweater, and he better read that book the next (beep) day. - Yeah. Yeah. - Oh god. You're so right. Well, there's no way they're still together at this point. - There's no way. All right, next story here. "Am I the asshole for telling my girlfriend her home decor. "is the reason I won't host a work gathering at her place?". It's a 32-year-old man.

"I've been with my girlfriend, who's 29, "for over a year now. "She's smart, funny, a bit quirky, "and has a serious job with a good salary. "We have a great time together. "and generally get along very well. "The only thing is her choice in home decor is bizarre. "to put it frankly and not something you'd think. "a normal grown adult would be into. "Her apartment is definitely a reflection of herself. "and interests, not in the best way though. "My girlfriend has a wall dedicated to animation. "in one room of her apartment, like Futurama pieces.

"and etchings of some weird triangle guy. "Then there's the wall of frame preserve insects. "in another room, but not insects like butterflies or moths, "instead she displays tarantulas, beetles, "and large stick insects. "Her bathroom has a subtle theme of the ocean, "pretty common. "But instead of starfish or shells, "she has a little angler fish nightlight, "a small vampiric squid painting, "and then a framed diagram. "of what apparently is a goblin shark right by the toilet. "I would say a majority of her home decor.

"and furnishings are okay. "The apartment itself is very modern and sleek. "It's just the random decor. "and juvenile-ish themes like cartoons, insects, "and bizarre ocean creatures is off-putting. "This is where I might be the asshole. "I avoid bringing people over to her place, "especially people from my job. "because of how juvenile it looks. "Everyone's impressed when they see the high rise, "but that quickly fades once you enter. "The one time I brought a work colleague over, "they ended up telling me after. "that they found her insect wall terrifying.

"I work in finance, "and appearances and first impressions are important.". (Angela groans). - Finance bro. - "My office will hold casual gatherings. "where we get together for a few drinks, good food, "and we rotate hosts, and this time it's my turn. "The problem is my place is under some construction. "and not an ideal place to be right now, "so I've been staying with my girlfriend. "My girlfriend suggested that we host my colleagues here. "since she has the space and thinks that it'd be fun. "I told her I planned on skipping my rotation. "and seeing if the next person would be okay. "with hosting early.

"She kept pressing on why I didn't want them. "to be over here, "so I finally said it's because her home decor is strange. "and not something a grown woman would have. "and also that her insect wall horrified the one colleague. "that did come over. "My girlfriend got mad and said at the end of the day, "it's not my space, and these things bring her joy. "She also said that she indeed is an adult woman, "which is exactly why her apartment is decorated. "in such a manner. "I love my girlfriend, I do, "and it's okay to have different interests, "but does an adult really need to decorate with them.

"besides a few things here and there? "I mean, my own mother asked if my girlfriend was autistic. "after she saw the entire apartment for the first time. "So Reddit, am I the asshole. "for telling my girlfriend her home decor. "is the reason I won't host a work gathering at her place?". - Dump his ass! - Yeah, I think, if I may, my first impression here is I think the issue. is that she has a personality and he doesn't. - Yeah. - [Shayne] And neither does his friend. - But, Shayne, he works in finance. - That's such a (groans).

- I already know exactly what he looks like. He's just Schmidt from "New Girl.". Like, he looks exactly like that. - But worse. - But worse. - Gosh, I was only laughing in the beginning. 'cause it was so funny to me. how specific he was roasting her decoration. He's like, "And then there's a starfish in the corner,". and I thought it was very funny, and then it just gets worse. - I'm laughing 'cause that's my space. (Shayne laughs). 100%. I have a bunch of animation cells, which I have yet to hang up, but I'm going to. - Didn't you just get a new thing.

that's like an insect or something? - Yeah, so I don't have actual taxidermy insects. because that's not my thing. But I ended up getting off of Etsy, oh god, their name-. - It's a taxidermy Butterfree. - It's a taxidermy Butterfree, it's a Pokemon. But I wanted to say their name. It's something Oddities. Overcast Oddities. Yeah, shout out. They do Pokemon like taxidermy, and I'm like, "Well, that I can get behind.". So I have the animation, I have the Pokemon taxidermy, and then in the bathroom I'm going to do basically. that kinda like oceany theme, maybe a little bit of Cthulhu. And I'm like, I'm an adult.

I'm older than that person. - Sure. I mean, I'm not gonna bring my work friends to your place. - Good, you're not invited. - I'm not gonna bring my finance bros over. - Yeah, so yeah, I know I work at Smosh, but I'm also not gonna bring my finance friends over. (everyone laughs). To your apartment. - I mean, it's whatever, open invitation. I'll text you my address. You can figure it out. - You know, it's tough 'cause he points out like, "These things are for kids, like insects.". Like, whenever I'm walking around a park, and I see an insect, I'm like, "Sorry dude, that's for kids.". - [Damien] Yeah. - "I don't wanna look at you.". - Whoa. - Sorry, I don't look at bugs. Whenever I see a bug, I gotta walk the other way.

- How am I gonna get this spider out? It's for kids. - If I'm at the beach and I see a starfish, I'm like, "I gotta walk the other way. "That's for kids.". - You go, "I'm an adult. "I can't be here at the beach.". - I can't, sorry. The ocean? That's for kids. (everyone laughs). - "Dude, there's a black widow on your face!". "Don't worry about it. "Those are for kids.". - "Those are for kids. "I'm an adult. "Not gonna worry about it.". - Here's the thing too. Let's address the autism line. Autism is not a bad thing. It is A, a spectrum and presents in a lot of different ways. and B, like you don't have to be autistic.

to have a hyper fixation. But a lot of people. who are autistic do have specific special interests, and that's awesome. And I think we're living in a time. where there's no like right way to be grown up anymore. Like, a lot of the adult adults grew up with video games. Like, we don't wanna stop doing all these fun things. If we have adult money and we want to use it on something, it's not like, oh, a new toaster. It's like, no, I wanna buy this cool framed thing. that I like from a show I like. Like, this just shows that this person is not right. for that girl.

It's just, it's the wrong match. He probably thinks she's cute and quirky. and makes it like a... I don't know. - Absolutely. No, I mean, in my opinion, you know, he needs to check in. with how he's talking about his girlfriend here. I mean, it's super derogatory. And I mean, in his mind this is all abnormal. when it's like there's no normal way to decorate your home. You're allowed to do it however you want. But this is part of who she is. When you're dating someone and you're with someone.

and how they decorate their home, that to me is like, that's huge. And that's not something I would ever try to change. Or if I am not okay with it. and I'm not okay with bringing friends over, I'd be like, then I can't do this. - This is so interesting though. - That's huge. - I don't know because I think sometimes it's the other way. for, I don't know, like not to gender it, but I do think a lot of girls will be like, "Oh, there's posters in his room. "He's a kid.". But there's a difference between like posters. and like framed posters. - Yeah. - And like maybe like an age college to adulthood thing.

But I think what he's upset about is the context of the art. It's not how the art is hung-. - [Damien] You're right. - That's what I mean. Her actual interest. The organization, the cleanliness, the presentation, maybe that's the adult thing, right? Of like how you organize your space, like how you do that. But your interests and the aesthetic is part of who you are. - Yeah, he's just roasting what she likes. - Yeah, and also it's not things that I think are, but I also, you know, being in the YouTube world,

I feel like more people I know have places like this. than not. - Look at our little plane. (crew laughs). - [Shayne] We're so quirky. (beep). - Is a plane too much for kids? - But no sincerely, more people I know are collectors of various sorts. I mean, most of my adult friends have like Lego sets. and stuff in their homes on display. And I mean, that's more normal than not. amongst people I know.

And these are very adult people who work very hard, who like are every adult category they're marking off. But you're allowed to have interests, and that's part of being adult is you are allowed. to have whatever you want now if you earned it. - So weird. Maybe I'm unlikable, but what about your construction, dude? I think he's lying. (everyone laughs). - "Oh, you're into Bob the Builder? "You fucking loser.". - Bob the Builder. (everyone laughs). I don't know. He's an asshole.

- He's an asshole. This is also like an example of, I don't know, like a lot of my space is decorated in like a spooky way. I collect like older antique things. Sometimes I restore old furniture that I find. But like other people, if they super want like a modern vibe, that's okay too. But it sounds like this person is obsessed with like, for lack of a better term, like the normy paradigm of things to do. Like, "Nope, everything's gotta be perfect and modern, "looks like it comes from Ikea, "and if it's not, then you're just a baby.". - Yeah, also there's a difference between like childish. and childlike, right?

Like, when someone like can do, I think you could put something up that may be childlike. or like just like Legos. But then if she was acting childish. and that was embarrassing to him, maybe I could get behind that. Like, if the apartment was taken care of like a child. and there wasn't like, and she wasn't cleaning or something. - Blocks on the ground, apple juice. - It's not even childish. It's "Futurama.". Like, that's one of the best shows ever made. - And it's pretty adult. - It's definitely pretty adult. But my way of decorating my own space,

I'm very minimalist and stuff. But like, I love seeing really cool, unique ways. that people decorate their homes. Also, last thing I wanna ask-. - I got a Pokemon shirt, just saying I'm 32. - [Shayne] That's fucking sick. - Thanks. That's what I was looking for. - But I wanna also point out, he talked about like, "This is where we gather to have a couple drinks, "and this place is way too crazy for us.". I'm like, have you not been to a bar? Bars have crazy themes! That's the whole point. - You fricking idiot. - Snowshoes on the wall. - This doesn't make sense to me.

I've been to so many weird bars with literally like-. - That's so true. - Crazy aesthetics and stuff. That's the point. People pay so much money to get reservations. at like weird places like that. - Yes. Bro probably walks into TGI Fridays thinking it's a daycare. (everyone laughs). - Okay, some comments here. "I hate people who gatekeep adulthood. "They're stuffy and boring and have no sense of whimsy. "Why do people have to give up the stuff they enjoy. "just because they reach an arbitrary age. "that makes them an adult?

"That's bullshit. "Love what you love and celebrate it until the day you die. "And the triangle dude is almost certainly Bill Cipher.". - Bill, yep. It's Bill from "Gravity Falls.". Thank you. - Someone else said, "You're the asshole. "Your girlfriend sounds rad. "If I walked into a coworker's house like that, "my respect level for them would go way up. "Just let people be interested in things.". Lastly, "Not the asshole for not wanting to host there. "because it's not your place, "but you're the asshole for making your girlfriend feel bad. "for being who she is in her own place.". - Yeah, it would be fair if the boyfriend was like, "Hey, I'm gonna skip my rotation.

"because I'm very excited to show off my place. "to my colleagues. "That's what I'm looking for.". But it is coming from a place of embarrassment. about his girlfriend. - Yeah, truly. - And I do wanna come back to that last line real quick. Like, for anyone who doesn't know me, I am on the autism spectrum in some capacity, and I've got all sorts of other letters. that describe my brain. So the fact that he's like, "Man, my mom even said it like this.". It's like, dude, maybe she is. But the fact that you view that as a bad thing means. that anything about her mental health. is always going to have to be hidden from you.

and something you will be ashamed of. When she's a quirky like 60-year-old and you're together. and she's like, "I wanna put out this fun bird feeder.". You're gonna be like, "Oh geez.". - Yeah, like my guy, just go to Airbnb, get a little museum for your wine and your friends, and go home. - Yeah. Next story here. "Am I the asshole for not keeping my thoughts. "on my sister's ridiculous baby names, Stanford and Yale, "to myself?". (Angela laughs). - I was like, yeah, no. We'll see. - Oh.

Okay. - [Damien] We'll see. - "I'm the youngest of three siblings. "There's me, 34-year-old male, my sister Katie, 35, "and my brother Ian, 38.". - Ian? - What a loser name. "Out of the three of us, "Katie is the one who made it, her words. "She attended Yale Law School. "and is engaged to a neurosurgeon, Daniel, "who attended Stanford Medical School.". (Angela laughs). "Over the years, "it's become clear that Katie looks down on me and Ian. "because we aren't as ambitious, successful, credentialed. "as she is. "Katie has expressed her astonishment.

"that the family business is profitable, "even though someone who got C's in high school. "and never went to college, AKA me, "has been running the day-to-day operations. "for 10 plus years. "Katie also once told Ian to his face. "that he wasted his potential, "context, Ian was the valedictorian. "of his high school class just like Katie, "by dropping out of college. "to help mom run the family business after dad passed away. "Katie and Daniel recently posted that Katie is pregnant. "with twin boys and their names would be Stanford and Yale.

"I commented, 'Congratulations.'. "But later I texted her to say that it wasn't right. "to give the boys ridiculous names. "that would put them under immense pressure. "to succeed from a very young age. "I also asked her about what would happen. "if one or both of them weren't as successful perfect. "as she hoped. "Katie didn't like the points that I made. "She texted back, 'I wasn't asking for opinions, "'especially from someone like you. "'Consider yourself uninvited from our wedding. "'until you sincerely apologize.'. "To be honest, I was already leaning towards not attending.

"due to Katie's condescending attitude towards me. "But the 'someone like you' comment sealed the deal. "I told Ian what happened, "but he said that I should have kept my thoughts to myself.". - Oh man. - I mean, look, I've been through elementary and middle school. She's not wrong. Being named Stanford or Yale is... Other people are gonna be harsh. Like, look, school is ruthless and being named Yale.

- Stanford isn't the craziest name. - Stanford 'cause you can go by Stan. - You go by Stan. And like, but Yale is interesting, and like also the fact that it's coming from like, "Oh, well I went to Ivy League. "and everyone needs to know it.". Like, I will say this though, the names, they suck. They are the least of those children's problems. They're growing up with that mom. - That mom is awful. - Oh, it's gonna suck. They're both gonna be such burnouts, and I understand it. - She's going to make their life a living hell. The names, yeah, you're right. The names don't matter. She is going to pressure them so badly.

- They're gonna wish their names were Gap and Year. (Shayne and crew laugh). - Nice! - I don't deserve this. - This is for me now. Thank you. - Wow. - [Damien] Damn, dude. - That's a bummer. That sucks. Condescending people like that are really awful. - It's disgusting. - It really is disgusting. - Also, I do think though, it's a little disgusting for the brother to be like, "You're naming your kids ridiculous names," but maybe...

No, I think-. - I think the problem is they clearly hate this sister. - Yeah, yeah, you're right. - Like, clearly she's been such an asshole. to them for so long that they just don't, they're so burned out with her. - Yeah, I just wish someone would actually tell her like, "Hey, from a non-judgmental perspective, "I think this might add pressure to the kids,". instead of just being like, "You're stupid. "What a dumb idea.". - Yeah. - It definitely could have been handled better. And I do also think that the brother is probably like, again, maybe I'm looking into this too much, but when the brother is like, "You could have kept your thoughts to yourself.". If the brother is the type to drop out of college. after being valedictorian to go help the mother.

after the dad passed, there's a lot of responsibility there. They're the peacekeeper. They're the ones that like keep the family afloat. So if there's fighting, it's just gonna be like, "You know how she is. "You shouldn't have said anything.". - [Shayne] That's true. - Who knows how they really feel. - She did say, all she said was, "I texted her to say that it wasn't right. "to give the boys ridiculous,". well, maybe she said ridiculous. - "It's not right" is a pretty-. - "That would put them under immense pressure to succeed. "from a very young age.". Yeah. It just sounds like they just don't like each other already. - Yeah. - And they're looking for, and if it's that quick that you can be uninvited.

to everything. - I can't believe she named her kids Princeton and Yale. - Stanford. - Stanford and Yale, my bad. - Princeton is also better than Yale. - Same shit. Are they twins too? - Stanford and Princeton. would've been fine. - Yeah, they're twins. - God, what a bad look. - Oh, that's rough. That's rough. - That's like naming a kid Singer and Dancer or something. - Some comments here. "I feel like these names are gonna make it harder. "to get into a top tier school. "Does Harvard want to admit a child called Yale? "Does Stanford wanna admit a child called Stanford?". It's a good point. - Wow.

That's a great point. - Or maybe they really want to, 'cause it's like, "Dude, Yale is so good, "we have a kid named Stanford. "They didn't go to Stanford. "They came here.". I think it'd be really funny if one of 'em goes to ASU. - Oh yeah. (everyone laughs). - You gotta name the kid ASU honestly. - "Oh, your kid. "What's their name?". Arizona State University Online. (everyone laughs). - And DeVry. - And that's my real name. - DeVry. - DeVry, Phoenix University. - University Technical Institute.

I also think like, look, there's a lot of bad names out there, and like I think it's wrong in general to set someone up. with a name that like really puts them in a specific box. Like, this isn't as bad of one at all. 'cause I think it's a really cool name, but I know like Magnus was a popular name for a while. I'm like, that kid better be 6'8" as a linebacker. Because if they're like kind of small and nerdy, I'm like, Magnus is gonna get their shit rocked every day. (Shayne laughs). Like, you better fucking-. - That sucks, man. - I will also say, I hear about people getting bullied for their names,

but growing up, I don't know. I don't know. - Like, I think we are in a better age. where people own who they are. when they become of a certain age. and they can do what they want. But poor Princeton and Yale, Stanford and Yale. See, I can't even remember. - Yeah, it's not even like, they don't even flow off the tongue. Like Stanford and Yale don't go together. Like, Stanford and Princeton, like both two syllable, both sound fancy, fancy. But Yale, like if your name is Yale. and your sibling is not right there with you,

it's gonna be like, "Sorry, did you say... "What was your name one more time?". They're gonna be like, "Yale.". Like, they're never gonna not have to repeat themselves. - [Shayne] Yeah. - God, how pretentious. - [Shayne] It's pretty rough. Yeah. Anyways. - Well, sucks to be them, right, Angela, Shayne, and Damien? - So guys, we have our last story. - I love this, I don't wanna stop. - And this is the most insane thing ever. So Angela, the last episode that you were on, you were on with Chanse.

- Yeah. - And we read a lot of updates, like Redditor updates. - And I did watch that episode. - And so there was the most insane story. was this story of a woman. who her husband became obsessed with her boss. - Yes. - So she had this boss who was this woman. who was like maybe in her late 30s, early 40s, who was this incredible woman. She described her as being really, really awesome. And her husband had kind of a weird like interest in her. and-. - [Damien] Didn't he like join that gym too? - Kinda spiraled.

So and then what happened was they start getting a divorce, and then she then finds out her husband is dating her boss. And she talks to her husband. The husband goes, "Look, it just happened. "We met on Bumble. "And please don't tell your boss about our divorce. "and everything because, "just please don't mess this up for me.". So she ends up talking to the boss and she goes, "Hey, like I heard about you and my husband. "We're going through divorce. "My ex-husband I guess, "but I heard you guys met on Bumble, whatever.".

Then the boss is like, "We didn't meet on Bumble. "He's been going to my gym for like the past year.". Different gym than where they go to, so he clearly signed up-. - And you were like, "Two memberships?" - Two memberships? - He signed up for a different gym membership just to, and figured out the hours this boss was going there. So he effectively stalked this boss. and then they ended up getting together. So last we heard was the boss, I thought they they broke up. - Yeah, the boss was like, "This is freaky,".

and then broke up with him. - Where it ends is the boss like thanks her for telling her. The husband seems to be a crying sobbing mess. - Yes. - So it's all kind of out there. But that's where it kind of ended. So it kind of ends on this thought of like, all right, maybe the husband gets kicked to the curb. The boss knows that he's crazy. That's the end. But that's where that kind of ended. So now we finally have an update. I also want to thank our viewers and our fans. who posted this update on the Smosh Reddit for us to find.

Thank you for doing that. Please keep doing that. Let us know when there's updates. We will find them on our Reddit. - We will find them. - We will find them. So thank you, guys. And here we go. - Oh my god. - [Damien] Three memberships. - It's like season two finally came out. - So update. "I'm drowning in despair. "My divorce was finalized yesterday, "and today I found out that my ex-husband. "and my boss are expecting their first child.". - Oh! (crew laughs).

- Oh no. - Oh no! - She's drowning in despair! - Kurapika is drowning in despair. - If you really wanna watch everything coming up to this, go watch episode 10 with Angela and Chanse. But, "I don't know if you remember me. "I was here some months ago.". - Oh. - [Damien] Yeah, we remember. - "I was here some months ago, "and you helped me a great deal to cope with my grief. "I talked about how my ex-husband was falling for my boss, "and I was watching it happening. "with no power to do anything about it.

"I hope I can find all my old posts. "and include them in my bio in case you don't remember me. "I filed for divorce and a restraining order against him. "And the last time I talked to him. "was when he came home crying and yelling at me, "trying to make me talk to my boss to tell her. "that he wasn't the creep I made him out to be. "when I spoke with my boss. "I never saw him again. "after I refused to help him win her back. "A month later, his lawyer sent me a letter telling me. "that my ex-husband had moved to another city. "and that he terminated the lease on the apartment. "I had until the end of February to vacate. "I moved back temporarily with my family.

"I never saw or heard from my ex again. "Like I never existed in his life. "He signed the divorce papers the second he got them. "and didn't ask for a trial period. "I meant nothing to him. "At work everything was back to normal. "I rarely saw my boss, but the few times I did, "she just nodded in acknowledgement with a smile. "She didn't know who I was before. "She wasn't coming to work. "as often as she usually did anyway, "and she was home sick more often than she did. "She usually is a working bee. "I was glad she didn't try to take out her revenge on me.

"for what happened. "She just ignored the subject and never spoke to me again. "I found out that my ex-husband found a new job. "and apartment in his new city. "and that he was seeing a therapist. "I heard that he was trying to build his life back up. "because all of our friends and our families knew. "what kind of a creepy stalker he was now. "and the reason why we got a divorce, "and he couldn't handle the pressure. "I heard that he cut contact. "with many of our mutual friends, "those who defended and sided with me. "I also found my own place. "I put a down payment on a small apartment near my work.

"and my family. "And I was finally starting to come out of my shell. "Yesterday, the divorce was finalized, "and finally I felt some sort of hope, some freedom. "This chapter is done. "I don't know when and where I will find love. "I guess I need to start the learning how to trust again. "before loving and giving myself to someone. "I was optimistic. "That is until my friend sent me a screenshot. "of my ex-husband's IG. "He had blocked me months ago, "but yesterday, the day our divorce was finalized, "he made a post with his hand hugging a woman's belly.

"The caption was, 'I can't wait to meet you. "'I will love you like I love your mother. "'And I will do so until the end of my time.'. "The woman in the picture is my boss. "Today, I asked around the office, and the rumors are. "that she is in a long distance relationship. "with her boyfriend. "She also announced her pregnancy on her socials, "and everyone was congratulating her. "Will this pain ever go? "What have I ever done to deserve this cruelty?". - This is a (beep) wild update.

- I did not in 1,000 years think that this is what was next. - I can't believe that. Oh my god. (sighs). - I want-. - Just the boss found out this guy literally stalked her. - What's the timeline though, because it is very possible. She found out that he stalked her, cut off all contact, and was like, "Shit, I'm pregnant. "I'm actually a little bit far along. "I'm keeping the baby.". So sorry, original story, October.

But then the update was when she talked to her boss, right? Was December? - [Kiana] December. - So very easily this boss could have gotten pregnant. beginning of December, found out something a little bit later, and then gotten back with the guy. - There's a lot of stuff missing, timeline stuff. But either way, I mean, she's still with this guy. that she knows is willing to stalk someone. - [Damien] Yeah. - And long distance with a baby is also a crazy thing.

- Maybe that's part of it too. Maybe there's the reason that like, he didn't move in with the boss or the boss is going to him. Like, it's like, "Hey, I'm pregnant, "and we have to work things out. "You have to go to therapy, "and I will come to see you so we can work on stuff.". Like that's-. - [Shayne] Interesting. - 'Cause the way the boss was presented, unless she's really good at having two faces about things, this is just a shock. - This is shocking. I mean, look, regardless of all of that, what she has to do is she has to move on. I mean, she dodged a bullet.

- [Damien] Yes. - I think she still has it in her head. of like loving this guy. - I know, it's really sad. - Like, you gotta move on. Outside of all this story, how do you guys feel about friends. who screenshotted that stuff and sent it to her? Do you think that's like a good... I sometimes feel weird whenever I hear stories about that. where it's like, "My friends sending me photos of my ex with all this stuff. "being like, 'Hey, did you see this?'". It's like, I get it. 'Cause I get the side of like, yeah, you're gonna wanna know that.

That's huge. Especially if you just finalized your divorce. But also like, I don't know. I guess we don't know what that conversation looked like. It could have been-. - No, but you're right though. That's like, you wait 'til you're in person. or you wait 'til not the first week she finally gets. outta her parents' house. And you send her that screenshot, like right when she gets her apartment, she moves on. - [Shayne] We don't know. - We don't know the timeline, you're right. - We don't know how that all came about. - But you're right. I don't feel good about friends just like-. - I will say, so the ex-husband, literally the day after the divorce is finalized,

he posts these photos on social media. - Oh my. - I mean, look, he is a messed up man. - [Damien] He's a lunatic. - And she needs to be glad that there's no contact. and she's out of this. And like, as long as this boss is not, I guess like thwarting her at her job in any sort of way, but I would feel unsafe. According to OP's responses, she has been looking for other jobs. and hasn't had any luck so far. So she's trying to move on from that. - She's trying. - I do wanna say real quick about your point, you know,

how do you feel about friends who screenshot? It's obviously going to depend on the situation, but there is another aspect of like, I've been on, you know, I've been the person receiving info. I've been the person who had info to give. And there is an aspect of like when you find out something. that is directly related to something. that is actively troubling your friend. and you sit on that information for a while, there's another aspect of guilt. where like for two weeks they're like, "I don't know what is going on. "Like, everything is insane.". And then you're like, "Okay, well I've known for two weeks. "exactly what's been so confusing to you.".

- [Shayne] That's fair. - Sure. - And it sucks because you don't want to have to give. that information. But like, I've also been on the other side of things. where like I've gotten information from a friend, and even though it hurts, I'm like, "Okay, "well that's the thing that is gonna let me finally be okay. "That's the thing that let me sever the tie.". You know what I mean? - Yeah, this is crazy either way. I mean, I think I would be so shocked if I was her friend. I would send it so fast 'cause I would be like, "No way.". You know what I mean? Like... - [Shayne] Yeah.

- When's a good time? When's a good time to tell? - I don't know if anything's shocking. at this point with this guy. - This guy is-. - I mean-. - It's also what makes me think like. if someone stalked you to find you, okay, but you love them very much. They don't stalk other, like what if he like-. - They don't stalk all the time. - Just the once. - [Shayne] They just stalked me. - What if it's just a quirky way they found each other. and they just love each other? - That is like every '90s rom-com where it's just like, "I found your window and threw notes at it for a year.".

And you're like, "No, you're actually going to jail.". - I guess I just have a really hard stance on stalking. - No, I think I do too. I'm just bringing it up for conversation sake. - I'm just bringing it up for fun. - But it is like, she must just have moved past, she must have moved past this. - I really hope we get another update. I mean, what is there to update? Like, this is the situation. She just needs to get out. She needs to get out, and she needs to keep looking for another job. and remove herself further from this situation. - Agreed.

- 'Cause just so much pain and just so, so messed up. - And like, look, sometimes even though logically. on paper you can look at things like, "Oh, well this was bad. "He was a stalker. "Thank goodness I dodged a bullet.". Doesn't matter. Your brain is still wired for like that person being there. Every single neuron in your brain has to relearn. what that person did. And like, if you're ever curious about breakups, like look up the article "The Science Behind a Breakup". because it really helps sort of quantify. what people are going through. And it goes for grief in any capacity. You have to retrain every part of your brain.

that something has changed. But sometimes getting a big piece of info like that. is truly the thing where you're like, "Oh (beep). "Like, okay.". So I'm hoping that there is no more update. because I'm hoping that after the few days of hurt, she's clearly coming to Reddit pretty quickly to be like, "I don't know where else to go with this information. "How do y'all feel?". I'm hoping after that she can finally be like, "Okay, well this was the most insane thing ever.". - Yeah, there's some comments here. - [Damien] There's an update. - There's another update just now. No.

There's some comments here. "There's a saying I heard a while back, "the person you divorce is not the person you married. "This was not the person you thought. "of spending your life with. "This pain hurts, but the pain will go away.". Someone else said, "You are free. "He's not your husband. "He's your ex-husband. "You're not tied to him in any way. "She will be forever tied to him now. "He will find another obsession and move on multiple times.". Someone else said, "I remember you. "The best revenge is finding fulfillment in yourself.

"Live a damn good life, OP. "You owe yourself that much. "Best of luck.". I fully agree. - Yeah. - I fully agree with all of that. - [Damien] Easier said that done. - Oh yeah, it'll take time. It's the day after it was finalized is she just found out. But hopefully a year from now she's in a much better place. And frankly, yeah, she has no ties to this man anymore. - And like we have no clue the story. This is a messy couple, this new couple. Who knows how it happened, where they're living,

if they're in long distance, how it's gonna go. - She doesn't really know this boss either. So, you know... - Update, they've named them Princeton and Yale. - And they want your Hulu password. - And what I think she should do is she needs. to just cuddle up, pull up her phone, open up her armpit folder and just look-. - Find something that brings you peace. - Just scroll. - [Damien] "Futurama" posters. - Just scroll. - Just make that apartment feel like home.

Hang up some tarantulas. - Yeah, dude. Sounds lovely. Well, thank you guys for being here. - This is my favorite show. - I love this show. It really is one of my favorite shows. - Hey. Also like we got along for a whole episode. No, I'm kidding. There's so many comments in Games videos that are like, "Why are Damien and Angela fighting?". It's like, we're really not. Like, it's so weird. - We're never fighting. (crew laughs). No, I love you. - Love you too. - I wanna make a quick shout out. If you like us reading these Reddit stories, we sometimes read other subreddits.

that we don't touch on here over on the SmoshCast, on the SmoshCast YouTube channel. We upload every Monday. It's Amanda and I and someone else from the Smosh crew, and we hang out, we talk, we react to stuff we find on the internet from all over. Damien and I read a bunch of bad two sentence horror. - It was great. You and Amanda are fantastic hosts by the way. - Thanks, man. - [Angela] You guys are great. - Like, not that I'm surprised, but it was just like similar to this. It's just a lot of fun just hanging out. and shooting the breeze.

- Yeah, and you can watch us playing Dungeons and Dragons. over on Smosh Games. All three of us are there. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - And there's two more people, but you gotta guess who it is in the comments of the video. - Figure that out. Anyways, thanks y'all for watching, and we'll see you next time. Bye.