Ultimate Betrayal Stories | Reading Reddit Stories

- Hello and welcome to "Smosh Reads Reddit Stories.". I'm Shayne. And today's theme is going to be betrayal. And as you all know, our Summer Games have concluded, which I'm sure had a lot of betrayal in it. So I think this theme is gonna be fitting. Now, we haven't started Summer Games as of recording this, but I think it's clear to know by now. that the Hollywood Hotdogs have probably won. - Whoa. - Great. - Dream on. - That's not what I predicted. I predicted that Ian's team is actually gonna win. on "Smosh Mouth." - You are predicting that.

- There's kind of no way that we could lose. - Okay. - Well... And my character is a blast. - Yeah. - She's gonna be a real joy to be around. - A fan favorite. A fan favorite. - Fan favorite. She's sunshine. - As of this episode airing, fan favorite. - Fan favorite. - Well, how do we think the games went overall? - Yeah, I mean, I think they went really great. I think my promposal was wildly inappropriate, and I apologize for the things. that I said on a school campus,

but I can't take back what's already been done, right? - Yeah, that was wild. - As of now, when you haven't done it yet. - You haven't done it yet. I'm like, "Oh my god-". - I can't take it back. - What do you have prepared? - If you have not watched Summer Games, I highly recommend. going back these past two weeks of content and watch it all. on this channel and on the Smosh Games channel. It is... I mean, this was a big event for us. We've been working on this for a long time, so... - Yeah, people have been asking for years. for Smosh Summer Games to come back, and-.

- [Shayne] Here it is. - We did it. - Here it is, baby. Y2K themed. It was a lot of fun. - 2005. High school. We love it. - It was a blast. I know that. - Oh my god, summer's gonna be so much fun, you guys. - Guys, summer's gonna be the best. - We're talking about betrayal? - Yeah, but now we're onto betrayal. - All right, it's over. - When you read the word betrayal, do you not hear it in the voice. from the guy from "Halo" going, "Betrayal.". - In fact, to this day, whenever I hear betrayal,

I think of "Betrayal Legacy.". - Oh, okay. (Amanda laughs). - We did it for so long. - And that's fun. - But every time I hear betrayal, I'm like, "Oh, are we doing another one?". Like, but that was our-. - The haunt has begun. - We did it so much for so long that I'm like, that is ingrained in my soul. - Yeah, remember? Come up with a character from 1817. Okay. - Yeah. It was a lot of fun. - It was so much fun. - All right, onto our first story. "Am I the asshole for purposely stopping my classmate.

"from winning an award and subsequently making her cry?". (Amanda scoffs). "This issue is honestly making me frustrated. "Almost everyone is saying I'm in the wrong. "People are talking behind my back, "and I genuinely don't know. "if what I did was correct or not. "I just feel so lost. "Please, please do help. "I am 17 and suffered a major accident. "while cycling when I was 13. "I have two really deep, long facial scars. "I have been bullied really badly because of it. "I am tall, ugly, and intimidating, as per most girls. "People make fun of other people by saying things like,

"'Why don't you just hook up with,' me? "I am honestly used to it. "Those people didn't matter to me anyway. "But there is this girl I had known since middle school. "Let's call her Beck, I guess. "Sorry. I honestly don't know how this works. "I had a really, really big crush on her. "'til a few days ago. "I thought she was genuinely sweet and amazing. "My family is incredibly supportive, "so they urged me to ask her out. "I can play a guitar, so I made this whole song for her. "I went to the neighboring city. "to get her favorite chocolate and stuff like that. "This was the first time I felt like really going. "and asking someone out in my life.

"And I felt that regardless of what I do, "she shall see me for who I am. "and at least accept me as a friend. "I was over the moon when she ended up accepting. "We went to a fancy restaurant, had a fun time together, "and walked for 30 minutes. "She was really sweet to me. "The next week or so was honestly heaven. "People started noticing me, "even her friends seemed friendly with me. "I honestly cried every day. "because I felt so fortunate to get so much love. "It all broke down when a friend of hers. "who was on Instagram and followed Beck. "sent screenshots to me. "I honestly felt betrayed and disgusted. "She had posts saying,

"'Fulfilled his lifelong wish by being his Valentine. "'Making his day by finally helping him interact. "'with my friends. "'He is ugly, but beautiful people accept ugly people. "'#UglyPeopleMatter,' et cetera. "Beck's friend-". - Whoa. - "Beck's friend then explained to me. "that she apparently wanted a good social media image. "and had thus asked all her friends to be kind to me. "and tolerate me 'til the first week of March. "and then distance themselves from me. "She apparently wanted. "to win some stupid positive role model award.

"for her college application. "because she was lagging behind in community service. "She thought playing with my feelings. "for a few days wouldn't hurt. "And apparently since I was ugly, "she was the kind one to give me attention anyway. "I was in tears and honestly felt disgusted. "My blood was boiling. "I researched this award. "and found a Facebook page about it online. "I went to the authorities. "to confirm if her name was on the nominations list. "and then had my friends at work and family as an alibi. "She is apparently crying a lot. "because she received a message. "from the committee saying her nomination was withdrawn.

"I am now even more ostracized in school, "but honestly, I have no remorse whatsoever. "and feel far more satisfied.". - What's happening here? - All right, well, yeah, I mean, like, look, it doesn't feel good to be used. - No. And especially... Okay, can I say, she submitted this to be a positive role model, and her post says, "He is ugly, but beautiful people accept ugly people.". - Yeah.

- #UglyPeopleMatter. - I don't think she would've won. - I don't think she's gonna win. - Yeah, exactly. - I'm pretty sure that's bullying. - Why is she crying. Honey, it wasn't good from the beginning. - What a weird choice. - Also, people need to stop throwing around the word ugly. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder. Like, whatever. He needs to stop saying. that he's ugly. - Yeah, but you haven't. seen this guy. I'm just kidding. - Shut up. But like, honestly. - What? - Not you. No, not you. - [Shayne] I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. - I mean, you have things to work on, but...

(everyone laughs). - I mean, you're working on it. - You're... You're fun. You're a fun guy. (crew laughs). - God. Sorry, what were you saying? - Using the word ugly, like, I'm just like, you guys, stop. This guy just keeps throwing around the word ugly, and it's like, hey, let's start there. - I'm very sad that he's like, like he says, I am tall, ugly, and intimidating, as for most girls. So that's what it's saying girls are saying. - Scars are awesome. - Yeah, like two deep facial scars. That sounds kind of cool.

- He kind of describes himself-. - Like that actor. - He describes himself initially here by being like, "I'm tall, intimidating, and I have two scars.". I'm like, you sound like-. - Badass. - An action hero. - Yeah, actually get a job at Hollywood. - Sorry that you're tall and intimidating. - Does he not sound like that Irish actor. with the two scars right here? - Yes. Yeah. - I don't know his name, and I don't care. - The "Sons of Anarchy" guy? - Thank you. - Yeah. Yeah, he's like, "Here's a photo of me.". And it's just like a cool looking guy. - It's Heath Ledger Joker. (everyone laughs). - We're like, "You're badass, man.". - Oh, man. - But I feel so bad, and I think like-. - This is terrible. - I think when he becomes an adult,

he's gonna meet so many more people. who just have different perspectives on things. But high school is just vicious. - This is vicious that she thought. that she was being a good human. by organizing this entire thing to be, and then tell her friends, "Be nice to him and then distance yourself, "so I can get this award.". And it's like, but the award, you're not getting the essence of it. because you're actually not a good person. - And you're actually making his life worse by-. - She literally- - [Amanda] Way worse. - This false sense of like friendship and like comradery.

- Yeah. - And then just having everyone drop him after. - So mean. - 'Cause like I think we all go through life. and there's moments where we do things that we go, "Oh, that was mean," or, "Oh, I regret that.". To do a premeditated long term plan of like, "We're gonna go on a date and we're gonna hang out for hours. "and it's all a lie and I'm bullying you. "in this long form way.". I'm like, how can you sit across from someone at a dinner. and like talk and have a conversation.

while you're doing this to them? - And then to cry over not being nominated. Not cry over, wait, I (beep) that person over. - I messed him up even more. than he was already hating himself. - This seems like the setup to like "Carrie.". - Yeah. I mean, it kind of is. - I mean, I'm waiting for the update. - Sorry. No update. - Oh. - [Shayne] That's the betrayal. - Like, no pig's blood that comes... Was it pig's blood? - That's the betrayal. - [Ian] Yeah. - High school is mean. - People are really mean.

- Really mean. - [Ian] Definitely. - Oh my god. I am blown away by people. who can do like this guy much effort. into hurting someone. - This guy. is gonna get so much ass when he gets older. Let's just be real. Like, two scars. - Well, he's tall. - He's tall. - Tall, intimidating. - [Emily] Plays the guitar, went and got chocolates. - Plays the guitar, neighboring town to get chocolates. A 30 minute walk after dinner so your tummy feels good. (crew laughs). This man is in. - He really seems like awesome. I mean, look man, when you're 17, just life sucks.

Life sucks. You don't know, like... I don't think anyone when they're a teenager, even into their early 20s, should be saying they're ugly. I'm like, you don't... Like, hey man. All of it's also in like finding your own personal style. and your personality. - Yes. - Like, that's attractiveness. I think this guy's gonna be fine, so long as he, but he has to let go of the hatred. - Yeah, he has to let go of call himself ugly. - He has to not buy into. what these horrible people are doing. - Know who's not gonna be fine? Her. She's gonna turn 35 and go,

"(gasps) what did I do to that guy?". Hopefully. - Hopefully. The verdict was not the asshole. - Sure. - Yeah. - He did nothing wrong. - [Amanda] No. - Did absolutely nothing wrong. "Not the asshole. "This is so (beep) up, it's beyond words. "How did she even qualify for an award like that. "with this as her entry submission? "What she did to you was dehumanizing. "and so incredibly out of line. "Everyone's on her side. "because you're surrounded by assholes at school. "But I promise you, you will move past this.". OP said, "Thank you for saying this. "I honestly was confused and still am to some extent. "because everyone in high school sided with her.

"Your trust in me genuinely matters. "I just let the whole truth out. "Thank you for trusting me. "Have a nice day.". Someone said, "Hey, I'm so sorry it's like this right now. "But there is no question that pretending to like you. "and use you for an award is beyond dishonest. "and (beep) evil. "She's pretty and popular, "and that seems to be all that matters at your school. "The best thing about school is that it ends. "and you'll never see these assholes again. "I wish you the absolute best, dude.". OP said, "Thank you so much. "I can't wait for it to end. "I got into my dream college, "so that's something I look forward to too. "I wish you the absolute best too.

"Thank you.". Someone said, "Not the asshole. "She's the ugly one here.". - Aw, that was legit. - Real. Real. - This guy seems like he's winning. in pretty much all aspects of life. - Yeah, he's winning. - So just yeah, get outta that high school. and get on with your life. - Get on. - Today's "Reddit Stories" is brought to you by Quince. Why drop a fortune on basics when you don't have to? Quince has the good stuff. High quality fabrics, classic fits, and lightweight layers for warm weather, you name it. And all at prices that make sense. Look, everything I've ordered from Quince.

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Nice. All right, this next one comes from Off My Chest. So we have a confession here. - Oh boy. - "I've found out why my husband. "hides his best friend from me, "and I don't think there's anything I can do about it.". - Okay. - Let's see? "I, a 26-year-old woman, "have been married to my husband, Dylan, 26-year-old man, "for three years. "We got together when we were 17, "but we've known each other since the fourth grade.

"I love my husband. "He's the total package. "Funny, sweet, smart, and attractive. "He's made my life amazing, and he's who I fully intended. "on spending the rest of my life with.". Past tense there. (Amanda gasps). "We attended all the same schools from the time we met. "up until college. "In that time, we've both made our own friend groups. "He's been more connected with his friends than I have, "and because of that, "I've become a part of that group as well, "I'd like to think. "In that time, I've been around 50% of their group hangouts, "mostly because of my job, "but sometimes I'm just straight up not invited. "I didn't question any of this.

"because hey, they're his friends. "He doesn't see them nearly as often as he sees me. "It's not my business. "My husband met his best friend, Karo, 27 male, "long before he met me. "I knew almost nothing about Karo up until recently. "He wasn't at our wedding, "nor did he attend any of the same schools as us, "and I was under the impression he wasn't friends. "with anyone in our group. "I thought all of this was because of his line of work. "As I was told, he traveled a lot. "Last year, me and my husband went to a barbecue. "hosted by another couple in the group. "Karo was there.

"I didn't recognize him at first, "but when I realized who he was, "I was honestly kind of shocked. "I had seen him in person before, "but he always kept a very, very good distance from me, "which I'm realizing now was intentional. "Anyways, he's totally stunning. "He looks like he could be a supermodel. "When I attempted to make conversation with him, "he seemed really nervous and totally shut me down. "after a few sentences. "When I mentioned this behavior to anyone else, "they also shut me down, "saying things like, 'That's just how he is,'. "or, 'Maybe you said something that offended him.'. "In short, no one would tell me anything about Karo at all.

"Any conversation that involved him was a no-go. "At the end of the night, "I tried talking to Dylan about his behavior. "He told me Karo didn't like me. "I was confused because I'd hardly seen him. "in person at all, let alone actually talk to him. "The excuse my husband gave was that he disliked me. "because I cheated on my husband once in college. "and Karo was too stubborn to let it go. "I've seen Karo less than a dozen times since then, "mostly at birthday parties, huge get-togethers, "and on one occasion he came to our house.

"to watch a football game with my husband. "and a few of their other buddies. "Anyways, a few weeks ago, "my husband went fishing with his cousin. "That same night I had some of the girls. "in our friend group over for a girls' night type thing. 'Lily, a 24-year-old woman, "was scrolling through some social media. "I was glancing over her shoulder. "when I saw a selfie of Dylan and Karo. "sitting next to each other in a hot tub. "The selfie had been posted maybe 30 minutes ago. "I asked Lily about what I had seen, and she went pale. "She tried saying nothing, but I snatched the phone from her. "and went to the profile that posted the photo.

"The profile belonged to my husband. "It was a private profile, and scrolling through the photos, "most of them were dirty jokes or memes, "but the rest of them were photos of him and Karo. "Either they were hanging out alone. "or with the rest of the group minus me. "Most of the photos seemed way too close, too touchy, "or doing things that seemed too personal. "or intimate for friends to be doing. "I spent a good 10 minutes looking. "before I couldn't take it anymore. "I was horrified. "All of the photos were dated. "to nights my husband told me he was working late, "hanging out with this relative or that,

"times that he told me he was doing something else, "and obviously hangouts I wasn't invited to. "Lily just sat there looking dumb. "She didn't say anything, "but all the girls were looking at us. "like a bomb had just gone off. "They clearly knew what I had seen, "and their reactions were enough. "to confirm exactly what I was afraid of. "I was livid. "I started yelling. "Lily was crying, "and the rest of the girls were freaking out. "When I started to calm down. "and demanded that they explain what was going on, "Lily told me everything. "Dylan and Karo had been sleeping together. "and very essentially dating behind my back. "since before we even got married.

"They got together during a one month break me and Dylan had. "during college, and they stuck together ever since. "They all knew, and none of them told me. "until I found out the hard way. "Karo wasn't at our wedding because he felt guilty. "He avoided me like the (beep) plague. "because he felt guilty. "They arranged group meetups in a group chat I wasn't in. "because they all like Karo enough to spare his feelings. "Even the guys in the group felt the same way. "about him apparently. "Karo was never as distant as I thought he was. "He was just being hidden. "Dylan was hiding him from me.

"because he didn't want me to find out they were together. "By the end of it, half of us were sobbing. "and everyone who wasn't was apologizing to me. "I was so angry. "I made them swear they wouldn't say anything to Dylan. "or anyone else. "I kicked them all out and cried myself to sleep. "I was basically in denial, "like it was some kind of sick (beep) prank. "My husband didn't come home until the next morning. "He told me. "all about the supposed fishing trip he'd gone on. "I didn't say anything about what I knew. "I guess he could tell something was up. "because he kept asking me what was wrong, "all day, every (beep) five minutes. "Eventually, I just told him I'd been in an argument.

"with my sister. "By the end of the week, I was totally numb. "Last night while my husband was handing out candy to kids, "I saw a notification pop up on his phone. "Since I knew his password, I opened it. "It was a text from Karo. "I looked through the conversations they'd had. "It confirmed everything. "It was devastating. "Dylan texted Karo the exact same way he texted me. "He told Karo he loved him. "Every sweet thing he said to me. "had been said in his conversations with Karo. "I was hardly mentioned. "I put his phone back before he noticed. "Dylan is at work now. "I don't know what to do. "I could never imagine myself leaving Dylan.

"because he's such a loving partner and a good man. "But I can't see myself winning in a competition. "against Karo if that's what it comes down to. "I can't even make myself be disgusted or angered by Dylan. "I love him too much. "I'm not even upset with Karo. "But I'm so hurt. "I don't wanna risk losing my husband. "and I don't wanna share him. "I called Lily and my sister this morning. "and told them about what I had found. "They both asked what I'm going to do, "and I had nothing to say. "I don't know what to do at all.". - Jesus Christ. - I am exhausted.

- Wow. - What? - 'Cause I just thought like, oh, maybe like, you know, they just like had a little fling. They did a little bit of cheat. But this is like, this has been going on-. - Little bit of cheat. - We're doing cheating as a treat. - Little bit of cheat. - Just a little pinch of a cheat. But this is like a full blown relationship. - I didn't expect this at all. I actually thought in my weird brain. that Karo was like attracted to her and he was-. - I was thinking that too.

- And he was like aggressively keeping him away. 'cause she said he's stunning. - I also thought, he's stunning, he's a supermodel. I thought the husband was keeping him away. - [Amanda] He's like, "Don't see my friend.". - I don't want her... My wife is gonna fall in love with you. - That's what I thought. - 'Cause you're so hot, bro. - You're so hot, bro. - You're so hot, bro, what if we went out? - Yeah. Should we kiss and do a little cheating? - Maybe that's been a strategy the whole time. is to like have sex with Karo. so Karo doesn't have sex with his wife. - Well, they've been together before-. - Before they were even married. - He's always thinking three steps ahead. - I don't understand. The entire friend group was like down to help cover this up?

- And the women came over and... I could not go over a woman's house. and keep this secret from her. - Hell no. - I don't think, I couldn't act like a normal person. - It's coming out. - Some people can just live life keeping secrets. I don't know. - And that makes me like think. are they more friends with that couple? - They are. They have to be. - Yeah, but it's like damn. But it's like this has been going on long enough. that you're friends with both. - [Ian] Yeah.

- Or it's like, if... If like I'm hanging out with someone and they're like, "Yeah, I have this long-term affair, "but my partner doesn't know about it,". and I'm like, well, either I can't keep that secret. or we can't hang out 'cause I'm gonna tell 'em. Like, it's gonna come out. - No, 100%. I wouldn't be able to keep a secret like that. - I would just feel so awful. - Even if I was genuinely trying to keep the secret, there's no frigging way I'm gonna do it. Like, I'm gonna fail. - It's not gonna be a comfy hang. - No. It's not a good time. - Spirituality, let's pull some tarot.

Cheating? Oh. Death card again. Oh. - They're all following the secret account. where they're just like posting blatantly about it. - I will say that sometimes what happens in these situations. is one of the people will tell other people. that it's a consensual situation. and then suggest like, but it's like, don't ask, don't tell, so don't talk about it with my partner. - We're in an open relationship, but we don't talk about it.

- Yeah, but-. - But I'd still be like-. - They seemed like they were like, "Uh-oh, she found out.". - I think you would know that's not true by talking to her. 'cause OP, there's no way conversation with her... I would need that confirmed from both partners. before I'm like-. - Also to have an Instagram account-. - It's insane. - I'm always shocked by the audacity of cheaters. in so many of these stories. 'cause there was a cheater who got tattooed the name. of his partner. - Oh yeah. Lily. - Of the affair partner. - I remember. - Like, wow, you're confident.

So we have some context down below. where Dylan, the husband, is an openly bisexual man. and apparently his family and stuff knows, and they're okay with it. But there's some, it's possible that Dylan at least thinks. that his family would not be okay with him marrying a man. - Oh. - So they're fine with him being bisexual. as long as he's married to a woman. - He's married to a woman. and has like the presenting face of... That's so sad. - But the wife didn't consent to that.

- Yeah, I don't... That's all like context. - Oh. So do we think. that he would've wanted to get married to Karo but didn't? - That's possible motivation. for the horrible thing he's done. - This is so-. - But... He's still done a horrible thing. - This is so sad though to me. - It is sad. - So sad. - It's deeply sad. And you know what I really relate to, sadly, is how she's still here going, "But he's a good man.". - I know. - "And like I love him.". This is clearly initial shock.

And to us reading it, it's like, what? You go. What? Why are you... This is gonna end. - But she does love him. - But in that moment, you're trying to let go of like this person that you know, and it's like, but he's not who you thought he was. - [Ian] No. - He is a completely different person. - And there's no way that like he's going to be on board. with severing from this other guy. - [Shayne] Exactly. - Like, that's just gonna breed an insane amount. of resentment that he won't be able to-. - He's in love and loves two people. - This is as extreme as cheating really gets,

beyond having like a secret family, right? This is full on has another relationship. that he almost seems more dedicated to. - [Ian] Yeah. - And what's sad is like all her friends lied to her too. - That's so painful. - You don't trust anyone now. - No. - Comments. "He is having a full blown affair. "Leave. "Also, your friends suck. "How long have they known? "Were they happy for you to be in an open relationship. "without you knowing? "Disgusting.". Someone said, "He's been with Karo since college, "but he married you,

"and Karo was fine with being a side piece this whole time? "Honestly, Dylan can't be worth this. "You're married to the idea. "of having known your person your whole life. "like it was fated. "But look at what you're trading for that false narrative. "What you thought you had with Dylan was just a dream. "You dreamt that up all by yourself. "Every liar by extension in your friend group. "watched you sleep, "then aided Dylan and Karo to keep you in the dark. "I'm so sorry. "Although it feels impossible, "there are absolutely better days ahead.". Lastly, someone said, "I honestly would just break up with him and divorce him.

"It sucks that this happened to you. "and no one was able to be honest to you about it. "At the very least, I would spend some time alone. "and think about what I want and need in my life. "I would recommend talking to him about it. "and letting him know how you feel.". - Because if she gave him an ultimatum, she would be even more hurt. because his heart is half, it's like split. - It's done. - Yeah, she just needs to leave unfortunately. - It is done whether she realizes it or not. Like, I think it's done. - [Ian] Yeah. - I think even if she was like, "I want to make this work," it's done.

- It's done. - But we'll find out. Update. (Amanda and Ian gasp). "I was unaware it was a big trend. "to repost Reddit posts onto TikTok. "This is what happened with my first post, "and the video has almost 700,000 views. "A friend of mine, Noah, who I am name dropping. "because I know he will see this. "and I appreciate him dearly, "forwarded me the video because he knew it was my post. "I explained the situation to him prior, "and he knew I had posted it. "There are several things I wanna address, "and I ask whoever made the video. "because they clearly use Reddit posts this too.

"to clear my name. "Everybody in my life knows by now, "so I see no harm in addressing you personally. "To recap, yes, I am leaving Dylan. "No, I did not actually cheat on him. "It was a huge misunderstanding between the two of us. "that led him to believe and tell people that I cheated. "I don't even know if what he told me about Karo's dislike. "for me is or was true. "No, I am not going to sue him for everything he has. "I will no longer be speaking to anyone from that group. "I may have been naive, but I am not stupid. "No, I still do not know. "why they chose to betray me like that.

"and I don't intend on finding out. "Yes, while his parents were accepting of LGBTQ+, "I don't think they would've been okay. "with Dylan marrying a man. "From here on out, I doubt I will have anything to say. "That is all. Thank you. "Also, I have never watched 'Brokeback Mountain,'. "but the jokes about it did make me chuckle.". There's that. - Wow. Okay, Reddit. - Okay, Reddit. - They're like, "'Brokeback Mountain.'. "That was the movie with two guys.". - I have not actually seen "Brokeback Mountain,". but in it they go-. - Wow, not an ally. - You need to go home right now.

- Give us your ally card. - And go. Okay, but in "Brokeback Mountain" they go on a fishing trip. and that's when they, and that's the famous scene when they're holding each other, looking at the gorgeous mountains. And that's where Heath Ledger met Michelle Williams. - Can you believe that lost to 'Crash"? - Yeah, I have not seen "Brokeback Mountain,". but I know it was robbed because I've seen "Crash.". - You need to leave right now and go home and watch it. - Okay. - Is that okay with everyone? - I am wearing cowboy boots, so I gotta-. - Get out there! - Yeehaw! - Gotta go do it.

All right, our next story. - I'm (sighs). - That one was a lot. - That one's crazy. - I guess we can move on, but this is gonna be forever. It's one of those Reddit stories that's forever. - Forever. - Yeah. - Our next story comes from Am I The Asshole. "Am I the asshole for throwing a cup of cold water. "on my naked husband?". (Amanda laughs). - Ooh. (crew laughs). Let's see where it goes. - "My husband has been tested for ADHD, "but he doesn't have it.".

(everyone laughs). Was that the opener you guys thought this was gonna have? - Stop it! - No. - All right. "My husband has been tested for ADHD, "but he doesn't have it. "He has the kinds of problems. "that are associated with ADHD however. "He says writing lists, making a schedule, "setting alarms, et cetera, is physically painful for him. "And he'd rather just deal with occasional emergencies. "rather than be proactive. "The specific problem-". - He just like me for real. (everyone laughs). - "The specific problem, "he often forgets to push the shower diverter valve down.

"You know, the little rod on the tub faucet. "that you push down to make water fill the tub. "and pull up to make the water come out of the shower. "For nearly 20 (beep) years, "I have been asking him to push that down. "Since I was literally a teenager, "I have been asking him to push that (beep) thing down. "At least twice a month, "I have a very unpleasant wake up/cold shower. "because I turn the water on. "and I get a cold spray from the shower. "And every (beep) time he's apologetic, "and then a week or two later it happens again.

"He will do better for a while and then it slips in again. "He is always telling me that he's working on it. "and hasn't he been better about it lately? "But somehow he's always working on it, always improving. "But it never (beep) stops. "Today I had just (beep) had it. "I stepped into the shower, turned it on, "and had a very cold and rude awakening. "I couldn't (beep) take it anymore. "I grabbed the cup by the sink. "and filled it about three inches with cold water. "and walked out to where he was standing naked. "He had just taken off his pajamas. "and was going to take his shower after mine.

"Without warning, while he was looking down, "I held that plastic cup firmly in my hand. "and grasping it tightly, I jerked that mother (beep). "in a 45 degree angle to get the cold water. "all over his torso and face. "I told him that his apologies. "were worth the paper they were written on. "and I was tired of listening to him congratulate himself. "for getting better when I had been asking. "for 20 (beep) years to stop doing this shit. "I told him I don't accept his apologies. "And the fact that it's an accident does not excuse it. "I told him that from now on, "every time I'm taking a cold shower, so will he,

"that I refuse to be a second class citizen. "in my own home any longer. "And if he refuses to make any changes to treat me better, "I will instead make changes to treat him worse. "because I will not tolerate this any longer. "I'm going to continue to surprise throw a cold cup of water. "on him every time I get a surprise cold shower. "I'm tired of (beep) asking, begging. "for basic (beep) respect and not getting it. "with the implication that I have to (beep) put up. "with this forever. "So, Reddit, I know I'm probably an asshole, "but am I a justified asshole?".

- I've never heard you swear so much, Shayne. - I don't think I've sweared so much. (crew laughs). - Okay-. - I hope Jesus isn't watching. - He is. He is. - Dude, in front of her child. Really? - Yeah, He is. Jesus is watching. (crew laughs). So I have a question. When you go into the shower-. - Yeah. - You can push up the thing or push the thing down, right? - But I guess she's expecting there. to be an understanding that,

like one would expect it. not to come out the shower head first. - Or you adapt and go, "He's probably gonna forget this. "I'm gonna click it.". - But why should a woman have to bend to the-. - Oh, let's not make this about that. - To the, you know, shortcomings of men, Amanda. - Let's just adapt and support our partner. - This story confuses me. 'cause I turn on the shower from the side. before I get inside. - Of course. - Because I'm scared of this. - [Ian] But I think what it is-. - This scares me. - What I imagine...

Because it's happened to me before. where like I didn't get into the shower, but like I poked in to turn it on. and like the hot water nozzle's on the other side. So you lean over to turn that on first. So your head is where the shower would maybe be spraying. 'cause this happened to me before. - I'm also confused. I think almost every shower I've ever come across. automatically does that. I've never heard of one where after the shower you have. to manually do that.

- Well, you can either leave it up or down. And some automatically-. - Mine automatic... Almost every single one I've ever had. automatically does that. But for 20 years, that means the multiple showers they've probably had-. - [Emily] Mine is manual. - Okay. So there's manual. - There are a lot that are manual. - I'm just saying I've never come across that. - Yeah. - I'm just a little like, okay. Are you gonna divorce him? Like, where are we at? - I think there's something more. that's going on in this relationship.

- 'Cause she jerked the water so intensely. - Look, she's got a lot of anger. She is pissed. - 20 fucking years. - I would say though-. - It's not about the shower. - She's like, "He's been doing this since we were teenagers.". I'm like, and you married him. Like, you can't expect people to change. I don't know. Like, that's always been my view of like, hey, he's a forgetful guy. You knew that. - I'm kind of like-. - Like, you wanna marry him and then be like, "And now you need to start remembering things.". - Adapt. - You married him for who he was. - Adapt. - If that's a deal breaker for you,

then you should have addressed that. - Maybe she turns it on and waits for the cold to hit, so she can be like, "Mother (beep)!". - That's the thing. Like, I think there's more going on here. This isn't about the shower. - [Shayne] Probably. - They've been married 20 years. This isn't about some little forgetful shower thing. - I think it is. - We get zero, she's not giving us any other context though. - I think it actually is about the shower. - That's the thing though, for some people, it's why, like, my view has always been like,

it's the little things that matter so much. in like any kind of relationship, friendships, romantic relationships. - Yeah. - Because this is a small thing on a day-to-day basis, it's like, oh, that's nothing, but over 20 years-. - It's not nothing. - It's a big deal for her. But I'm also like, I guess I'm not a believer. in like people are gonna change, like that you can ask for people to change. - Right. - Like, they need to change themselves. And there's some things they're maybe. just not gonna do that on. and you have to accept that person. - You have to adapt. But it's like, there are things, there are small things.

in relationship things that I couldn't live with. You know, when you hang out with another couple. and maybe there's another couple. who like run late all the time. - [Shayne] Sure. - I'm like, I couldn't be with that person. - No. - That's a small thing in their life. That is a very big thing in my life. - Totally. - And so like I know that. But it's kind of like if you're with someone for 20 years. and it's the shower thing, I don't know. You kind of either have to leave or... - I think-. - Stick it out.

I don't know. - It's tough 'cause I am a forgetful person too. and I would feel bad if someone was asking me. to keep doing something and I've kept forgetting. But I do that with myself. I will forget things and I'll get mad at myself. and be like, "I need to remember to do this. "I wanna start remembering to do this.". And I keep forgetting. And it's really hard. My solution in this situation, if I'm him and I care at all, I would be like, I'm replacing this thing. with one that automatically does it. - Yes. - Because I'd be like, I would have to accept also if after years go by.

and I'm told like, "Hey, for years you haven't done this,". I'd be like, then clearly my brain is not able to do this, so I need to find some other solution for it. - Yeah, that's a good solution. - But her level of anger here... - But I think you might also be right, Ian, a little bit. of like the feeling of not feeling like you're being heard. or listened to or supported. - It's the feeling behind the action. - Yeah, exactly. And I can understand her anger in that sense. Do I think you retaliate with a cold...

Also, so he took off his PJs, so he's gonna just hang out naked waiting. - He's just standing there naked, just waiting. - Tell me when you're done, babe. - Massive inconvenience now for both of them. She just splashed water all over the bathroom or living-. - No, I think it was in the bedroom. - Yeah, it's like, all right, like... She wants us to be on her side when she's saying like, "If you can't make my life better, "I'm gonna make your life worse.". I'm like, that's not... I don't think if you went to a couple's therapist, they'd be like, "Yeah, that's the right mindset.". - Right. - You guys are gonna do all right now.

- Yeah. - No, I'm gonna make things worse. Like, then things are gonna get worse. - Yeah, no. - Absolutely, yeah. No, I think it's definitely like if she was able to... If she was able to speak to her feelings around that issue. of like, hey, I don't feel thought about or cared for, because when you do this thing, yeah, I feel like you don't care about me. and you're not thinking about me.

And I think it's better to try to, yeah, put those things. into feelings and communicate that rather than saying, "Well, I got, you know, assaulted with water, "so now I'm gonna assault you with water.": - She's also saying like, you have ADHD. and here are the problems of ADHD. Like, it's a little like she's diagnosing him and then-. - Well, she's saying at the top, she's saying he doesn't. He's been tested and he doesn't. - Oh, okay, okay. - But he has the kinds of problems. that are associated with it however. - That's just like a-.

- But he has the problems associated. - He says writing lists, making a schedule, setting alarms is physically painful for him, and he'd rather just deal the occasional emergencies. rather than being proactive. - So then adapt. That's who your partner is. That's literally, he literally told you who he is. I don't understand why people are like, "Yeah, but I'm gonna change him.". It's like-. - Right. - You can work on things together, and eventually maybe you will change each other. in a way that works, but like he's communicating who he is.

- Yeah. Yeah. - Get a new shower head thing. - I like that solution. Just get a new shower. And then, I don't know, work on your actual problems. - I don't think this would be done. I think she's clearly saying. this is a broad scope of things. Verdict was you're the asshole. - Oh. - Which we rarely see. And not only that, I think the first time on the show, poo mode activated. - Yeah, I've never heard of that. (crew laughs). - Okay, explain. Explain poo mode activated.

- I think it's just like an extreme, like she was voted you're the asshole into-. - Who activates the poo? - Just the Reddit community. - Okay 'cause I mean, I think we've heard stories. that are way more asshole than this. - Well, she's not ending up on You're The Devil. - Oh, okay. Gotcha. - And she's not a demon, right? She's just like... I'm like, this is extreme asshole behavior. - This is just poo mode. - You're being an absolute asshole. - This is poo mode, yeah. - And she's gonna have to wash off in the shower. after all that. - She's not a criminal. She's not a nightmare human being.

It's just like, hey, you're being a horrible asshole. You grab cold water and splash it on your husband. - I need to know what his reaction was. - I get the vibe, my interpretation, he's the guy who's just like, he's like, "Oh yeah, sorry I couldn't figure it out.". - Babe... - That's what I'm thinking. If we met these people face to face, we might have completely different opinions. - Yeah. - But based on how she wrote this, she also suffers from the thing that some OPs suffer from. where the way she wrote this paints her horribly. - She was in a rageful place. - You did not write this for us to be on your side.

- She wrote it naked right after the water thing. - She might have written this in the shower. - Oh, she definitely did. - Comments. "You're the asshole. "For nearly 20 years, "you could have learned to take two seconds. "to look at it yourself. "This is a you problem, not him.". Someone said, "I'm honestly scratching my head. "at getting into the shower before the water goes on. "Like, even if it's coming out of the tub faucet hot, "the initial shower water will be cold. "Plus who wants to stand there naked. "and cold waiting for the water to heat?". Someone said, "Maybe my shower is just shit,

"but do you really not let it run for a second. "to warm the water up and stick a toe in. "to see if it's the right temperature? "Sorry, but this seems like it could be a non-issue. "with a modicum of effort on your part. "You're the asshole.". Someone said, "Can we consider the possibility. "that when someone has reached the level. "of throwing a cup of cold water in their spouse's face. "that it's not about the one minor annoyance. "Like, the post is pretty clear here. "This is not, my husband is a caring and supportive member. "of the household 99% of the time, "but has this one blind spot. "This is, I have spent 20 years turning myself inside out.

"to get this person to make baby steps. "in pulling his weight and nothing ever gets better. "She feels trapped and powerless, "so she's behaving like a petty asshole. "She should have left long before she got to this point.". OP responded, "Yeah, I think it's time for me to get out. "He says all the right things, "but he either can't or won't change. "I don't like the person I am when I'm around him anymore.". - Whoa. - Someone responded to that saying, "Leaving honestly sounds like a good idea, "but don't pull the. "'I don't like the person I am around him' card. "without being willing to take a serious look. "at your behaviors, your habits,

"and the attitudes that you have developed. "Seriously, write out the statement, "'My husband annoyed me so I physically attacked him,'. "and stare at it for a while. "Yes, it was in a way. "that had no chance whatsoever to hurt him, "but the fact that you reached that point over an annoyance. "and no warning bells went off in your brain to remind you. "that this isn't how adults handle conflict resolution. "is a problem, and it's entirely an internal one. "Whether you want a new partner or single life, "you need to confront that behavior head on. "or it will keep causing issues further down the line.". - There's that therapist.

How much are they getting paid hourly? - They show up. - Like, truly they're working constantly. - Yeah, there's a ton beyond this. - Did OP respond? - This is a whole plumbing system. There's nothing else. - The therapy thing? - No. - She's like, "I've been looking at the scrap of paper. "that you told me to write.". - She's like, "Thank you for that novel you sent.". I mean, I can't disagree with it. But look, if she's like, "I need to get out,". then clearly there's a lot going on. - There's something going on. - I think like, yeah, I mean, I read a great book.

I'd recommend all couples read this book. - What was it? - "Nonviolent Communication.". - Oh. - Great book. - Okay, I like to do that already so that sounds good. - Nonviolent communication? - Nonviolent communication? - Nonviolently communicating. You know, I like to communicate nonviolently. - Are you kidding? You berate me (laughs). (everyone laughs). I just scream at you. - The cameras cut and I'm like, "How dare you talk that way in this video!". - Yeah. - Yeehaw. - But yeah, great book. Great book. - Okay. - Okay. - Great recommend.

All right. Wow. That's probably some of the most like vitriol. we've ever read in a Reddit story. - I literally-. - She was on fire. - I've never seen you swear that much. - Over a three inch cup of water. - I know. - Three inch cup of water. - I do like to imagine that she like, whenever she saw that the nozzle was to the shower. and she like got all the way in the shower. and then stood right in the direction of the shower. and went (screams).

- Yeah. - You (beep)! - Exactly. And he's probably like- - I'm sorry, baby. - Yeah, my baby's gonna remember that. - I'm so sorry, baby. - He's like-. - [Emily] Or Scott, you just did that right in the mic. - Oh, I'm sorry, Scott. I'm sorry, Scott. - Scott's dying. - Scott is dead. - Yeah. - That was awesome. - That was-. - That was a ride. - That was a ride, a ride I didn't wanna be on. - Next story. "Am I the asshole for thinking about divorcing my wife. "after she drunkenly exposed me to our group of friends?".

- Exposed? - Exposed. - Okay. - "Guys, I literally don't know what to do. "after this weekend. "Posting from a burner account. "since I'm connected with a lot of friends and family. "on my account. "The issue here happened Saturday night. "We had our friend group over. "There were six of us couples there, "and we were hosting at our house. "The night was progressing pretty normally. "We had done dinner, "and we're just hanging on the couches chatting. "Everyone had been drinking over the course of the evening, "so we were all pretty comfy. "My wife, Amy, all names are fake, "was talking with one of the other girls about my new job. "I recently got a promotion that comes with a nice raise.

"The downside is that I have to travel a decent amount, "up to two weeks a month, "but only three to four days at a time at most. "We were excited. "for the changes the extra income will provide. "and how it will change our future, "so the travel was something we agreed to be worth it. "As they were chatting, "her friend Pamela was talking about how they make it work. "since her husband also travels for work a lot. "The conversation was actually quite helpful, honestly, "in a lot of ways as there were some good ideas in there. "That is, until this happened. "Heidi jokingly said, 'Be sure to order some sex toys.

"'that are the same size as him. "'so you can still have sex while he is gone.'. "Now she was giggling, just making light of the fact. "that I would be gone. "and that the biggest challenge they had. "was the interruption in their sex life. "No harm in this, right? "That is until my wife says, "'I don't think they make them that tiny.'". - No, no, no, no, no. - Wait. - No, no, no. - Wait. - No, no, no, no, no. - Whoa. - [Ian] Okay. - Please press F for our fallen comrade. (everyone laughs).

- Whoa. Wait, the wife said this? - In front of all the friends. - "I don't think they make them that tiny.". - Was she just like getting, did she get a little nervous. and say something that wasn't right and it's not true? - You'd hope she would quickly go, "I'm just kidding.". - I'm just kidding. It's massive! I can't take it anymore! - It's so big that they don't make anything that big! - It breaks me! I'm done! And he's just like, "Okay, now you're actually-".

- It's like a pool noodle! It's wild! - It's huge! You girls should try it! I'm sorry. - Honestly, he's a freak! (everyone laughs). - He's nasty! He's nasty! (everyone laughs). - Okay. - Like, you ever seen a baby's arm holding an apple? (everyone laughs). - Jesus Christ. - Damn it. All right. "That is until my wife says, "'I don't think they make them that tiny.'. "Guys, I went totally pale. "Everyone stopped talking. "and you could just feel the awkwardness in the room.

"I think she realized what she had said. "because she tried to backpedal, but the damage was done. "I just stared at her in disbelief. "She just kept trying to backpedal. "and saying, 'I'm so sorry.'. "I just stood up and walked out. "I didn't know what to say or do. "I headed over to a buddy's house. "I was sober, I don't drink. "I didn't tell him the story, just that we had an argument. "But I feel so violated by Amy-". (Amanda screams). - He's nasty! - Are you okay? Are you okay? Is the baby okay? - And the baby's okay! But that thing is huge! - Sorry, for the listeners, for the listeners at home,

something in the backdrop fell and almost killed Amanda. (everyone laughs). (beep). - All right, the sign is back up. Dare to dairy. - Okay. So the Downtown Dairy Cows sign just dropped. I hope that's not a bad omen. - That's a bad omen for you. - It is a bad omen. It dropped. - Oh no! It dropped again! - Oh no! - It just dropped again. No! - You're not gonna win! - I don't wanna do Smosh Summer Games anymore. (beep). - We are removing the Downtown Dairy Cows sign.

because it fell again and also you guys lost, so we might as well just keep that up. - Shut up. - Apparently you guys lost. - Aw, you said the thing. - That was so awkward. - Okay, so anyway, back to the story. Guy has a little peepee. - Okay, we don't know that yet. - Oh. we know. - Okay, but she did say, she insulted him horribly, and he did walk out. He left. - He left. - Without a word and went to a buddy's house. He did not tell his buddy what happened. Now the backstory here. "What she said is most likely true.

"I am not endowed at all. "I have known this my whole life basically. "Any guy can back me up. "when I say we are all conscious of our size. "I'm just under three inches hard. "I have always been super insecure about it. "But our sex life also was never lacking. "because I made up for it in other ways in the bedroom, "and she has never lacked in the orgasm department. "We just get there other ways sometimes. "Now here is where I feel like the asshole. "I wanna divorce her. "I feel so violated. "I feel like I can never see these friends again.

"I feel like all they will be thinking about. "when I'm around is her comment. "But my asshole feeling comes in. "because I also have known for a long time that it is small, "so I steered into the skis, I guess you could say, "and am more submissive in the bedroom. "and enjoy it when she pokes fun at it in the bedroom. "But that was just us. "I just feel so violated with it now being public knowledge. "But I also may have made my bed here. "by being okay with the dirty talk. "I don't know. "And for those wondering, yes, "she has called and texted a ton yesterday apologizing. "for outing me, but I told her I needed space for a bit.

"Honestly, I don't even know if I'll read the replies. "I just needed to vent this somewhere, "and I have no one to talk to about it. "My buddy I'm staying with just thinks we had a fight. "I feel so lost. "I feel like an asshole, "but just don't know if I can trust her again. "or feel secure enough to see any of them again.". Oh. - Okay, so in the bedroom, they dirty talk about his tiny penis. - [Ian] Yeah, like humiliation fetish. - So she's used to saying shit like that. - Yeah, it's like a degradation.

- I'm not, hey, I'm not giving her an excuse. - Right. But you're saying when she was drunk, she might've just like slipped into that. But I don't know. That's still bringing like a private bedroom thing. into the public. - No, yeah, bad. Bad. All of this is so bad. Like, so uncomfortable. - Yeah. - I just am like, him walking out, her saying it in front of the friends. I get it. I wouldn't wanna return and show my face. - Yeah. I mean, like, I feel like he's reaching a bit. when he's like, "I don't know if I can be friends with everyone again. "'cause all they're gonna think about.

"is my tiny little guy.". But it's like literally like, if I found that out about my friend, it would just be like, okay. - Okay. - And then we're still friends. because my relationship to you. has nothing to do with your wiener. - Yeah. - You know? - Totally. - I mean, so much of what he's saying is true, right? Of like the insecurity. And what sucks is like it's a private thing. So like you have this and you just go, "Well, I'm the smallest in the world.". 'Cause you're not out and about.

Like, we don't all just have our dongs out. So you're not like seeing other people who look like you. - I know, and it's such a bummer. (everyone laughs). But like the thing is, I think what is lacking here is like, what's gonna be so hot is if he just (beep) admits it. and owns it and then goes back in there and goes, "Yeah, I do have a small penis.". (laughs) Sorry. - Yeah, I got a tiny penis, and it rocks. - Yeah, exactly. Because she (beep) loves it. Okay? She's having a great time.

- I mean, he says there's no issues. in the orgasm department. - Exactly. - So he could just come back and be like, "Yeah, I got a tiny wiener. "And do you know what? "She still (beep).". - Whoa. - We knew you were gonna say something. I think regardless of all of these things though, it's like your partner body shamed you. in front of all your friends. - And it's very awkward. - And the way that I think it's like, oh, you did this in the bedroom because I asked you to, and we agreed on this.

But you saying it to friends comes across like, oh, how do you actually feel about me? Like, I don't even care how drunk you are. I'm like, wait, you're able to say that? - You say the truth when you're drunk too. - I know, and it's like-. - But is this divorce worthy? - [Shayne] I don't know. - I don't think, I don't... But I think it's just-. - He's so hurt. - It is a disrespect thing, for sure. - Definitely disrespect. - But I think maybe they were just, I'm not trying to like excuse what she said, but I think there were probably some wires crossed there. 'cause they were all drinking.

She's used to her kind of like, the degradation thing they do, and then just like let it slip out in public. I think it's just like... - It's tricky. - It's a tough one. - It's very embarrassing. It's embarrassing for both of them. But I think that's something that you could work through. - I think it's really awful, and I think if I was his buddy, I'd be like, well, like, is this a completely isolated event? And otherwise-. - Yeah. - But if there is any sort of pattern here that's, yeah.

- Yeah, like is this-. - But it's really tough. - Is this an overall thing. that he feels he doesn't feel like good in the bedroom? Like, is he just now coming out being like, "Oh wait, I actually don't feel that good in the bedroom"? Like, is this just kind of the last straw? I don't know. - It just makes you question everything now. Like, it's just like you're now, the trust, it hurts your trust, right? - Yeah. - The verdict is not the asshole. Comments. "Nah, man. "She doubled down on her statement by saying I'm so sorry, "letting everyone know it was the truth.

"'Just kidding, he's huge,'. "would've covered the backpedaling. "She acknowledged it as true. "and you leaving embarrassed tripled down the statement. "Not the asshole. "That was deliberate.". Someone said, "She violated your boundaries. "and humiliated you in front of your friends. "Drunk or no, she showed a lack of respect for you. "And respect is fundamental in a relationship. "Whether you try to salvage this or not is up to you. "I think that even if you do, "you may need to find a new group of friends, "and that is a big ask. "I'm of the mind that the only antidote. "to public humiliation is public lionization. "in terms of her respect for you,

"but that won't change what the old friends heard. "Either way, not the asshole.". Lastly, someone said, "Not the asshole. "This is a deep hurt she rendered you. "in front of your friends. "Thinking what you think, feeling what you feel, "those things never make you an asshole. "It takes actions to make you an asshole. "So if you do decide this is worthy of divorce, "be clear with yourself as to what it will remedy. "and what it will not. "The words in company will never be unsaid. "So in terms of how you feel exposed. "in front of those friends, divorce will not help that. "If in all other ways or enough other ways.

"you have been happy in your marriage, "then it may help you to get counseling for yourself. "and possibly yourselves as a couple. "She may have been drunk, but she said it. "She needs to take responsibility for it. "and uncover why she would say. "such a demeaning thing about you. "Is there some unhappiness in your marriage. "that she was paying you back for? "This is above Reddit's pay grade to fully resolve, "but above all, you are not the asshole and you are enough. "You are a man deserving of respect and love. "from your partner. "I hope you find a way through to heal yourself.". - Ah, therapist is back. - Therapist is back. - Love it.

- Update. (Amanda gasps). - Oh shoot. - What? - "Long story short, we sat down to talk about everything. "I'm going to give bullet points from the conversation. "because I don't think I could even begin. "to write out the whole conversation. "I brought up how I felt exposed. "and humiliated by what happened. "I explained that it was different. "from what we do in private. "She agreed and understood where I was coming from. "She apologized for saying it. "and admits that she wasn't really thinking about it. "because of the alcohol. "She also told me that she really didn't know. "because while I may be smaller, "I'm good at ensuring she is happy.

"So she hasn't really used any. "or looked at any of those types of things. "I do believe this because we have some things. "that haven't been used in years. "We both agreed that unrelated in totality to this issue, "she has been drinking too much in general. "I stopped drinking a long time ago for health reasons. "and she is going to stop for the time being as well. "We are both going to start individual counseling. "and then couples in a few weeks. "We have our own issues and things to work on. "as well as our couple things. "There were lots of emotions, tears, "and some anger at times through the talk, "but I think it helped us.

"For now we move forward. "I don't know exactly what I feel, "but know that I also have to fix myself and my mind. "Not really a conclusive thing, but it is where we are. "and we feel like we are going to be okay. "Thanks again.". - Very healthy. - Yeah, that was great. - I'm really glad that it just didn't end it, you know? - Yeah. I think he wrote that afterwards. where he was just really feeling a lot and stuff. So I'm happy for him. - There's something else though. The drinking. - Yeah. Yeah. - You know?

- All right, it's time for our final story. - Oh. - "Am I the asshole? "I didn't attend my son's wedding. "I instead spent the evening with his ex-wife.". Okay, so... - What? - Oh oh. - Here we go. - Okay. - All right. - "Quick backstory. "After graduating high school, "my son moved three states away for college. "At 19, he married a girl he met. "I tried convincing him to wait. "because I personally felt he was too immature. "They both dropped out and moved back here to his hometown. "At 20, they had their first child, a beautiful little girl.

"16 months later, my daughter-in-law gave birth. "to their second child, a little boy. "After the first baby, "my wife and I noticed our daughter-in-law wasn't happy. "We both thought it was PPD related. "Just after the second arrived, "my son and his wife separated. "She would bring the kids over for a visit. "It was then she began unloading on us. "I know there's two sides to every story, "but considering I know my son, I believed her. "I sat my son down numerous times. "to speak with him regarding his marriage. "He refused to take responsibility, "blamed her for everything, even when I directly pointed out.

"where he was the sole problem. "They got into counseling. "For a year, things were okay on the surface. "Our daughter-in-law filed for divorce. "My son, three days later was on Facebook. "announcing his new girlfriend. "A month later, they were engaged. "My son had forced his then wife. "to become a permanent stay-at-home mom. "at the birth of their first child. "She of course had no other family or friends here. "She knew no one aside from us. "She had nowhere to go with two small children. "Unbeknownst to our son, "my wife and I helped her financially. "and got her an apartment. "Before the divorce was even finalized,

"we received a wedding invitation. "I made it clear to my son I would not be attending. "and they would not have my blessing. "His mother told him she would see to it. "that I would attend. "I stayed consistent in my decision. "I also asked him not to bring his fiancee around our house. "out of respect for the mother of his children. "The wedding happened on February 11th. "The night before, my wife gave me the final push. "I did not attend. "Our daughter also did not attend for the same reasons. "My wife picked up our grandkids, "got them dressed and attended the wedding. "My daughter and I decided to spend the evening with his ex.

"I couldn't imagine her sitting alone. "while her kids attended their father's wedding. "She was taken aback. "that I didn't end up attending his wedding. "We took her out to distract her mind. "I just wanted her to know. "she'll always be considered family to us. "My daughter also made a joke. "that they can drop the in-law status. "and just be sisters now. "She was very tearfully grateful. "I realized just how badly she needed our support. "and specifically on that night. "The next morning my son called. "to tell me how much of a horrible father I am. "for not attending his wedding. "A few days later, he caught wind. "that I spent the wedding evening with his ex.

"He said that was the ultimate form of betrayal. "and further, myself and his sister would have. "to earn a relationship with him on his terms only.". - Wowie. - Whoa. The father sounds like a sweet, sweet man. - Yeah. - And I understand where he's at. He's trying to protect his grandchildren. He's trying to protect that relationship. - Yeah, and like his son is such a mess. - I mean to, yeah, wow, he moves fast.

- Oof. - A wee bit impulsive maybe. - They did not give us the details. - Right, which is why-. - On where his son is solely in the wrong. - It's hard. - They just said like, "We believe that he is solely in the wrong.". I'm like for the parents to quickly be like, "He's in the wrong and we are completely on his ex's side,". it's like, what is going on? - That's why it's hard to comment on. - All right, so there's some comments. - Okay. - "Info. What were the circumstances of the divorce? "Did your son cheat, abuse her, et cetera? "I agree that it isn't great how he's abandoning her.

"and his children, but what happened?". OP responds, "It was mostly about control. "She was blonde when they married. "When they moved here, she was brunette. "After the kids, she wanted to go blonde again, "but he told her no. "She gained weight after having the babies. "He was mad at her for not trying harder to lose it. "As he said, he didn't marry a fat woman. "He wouldn't let her leave the house. "She basically had to give him a daily schedule. "of what she was doing and where she was going. "He wouldn't allow her to make friends. "She wanted to get a little part-time job. "after the baby was born. "He told her she wasn't allowed to do that.

"It was basically a marriage. "where he created rules for her to follow, "but he could do whatever he wanted. "He wouldn't help with the kids, meals, or housework. "He made her do it all, even through both pregnancies. "I'm embarrassed he's my son. "I'm just thankful she doesn't judge me for the way he is. "I thought going off to college would make him mature. "I didn't expect him to marry so quickly.". So your husband's the devil. - It's like textbook. It's like textbook abuser stuff. - And also it kind of makes sense because he goes, "Now you have to have a relationship with me on my terms.".

Like, he kind of does everything with control. Ew. - Someone else said, "So he was cheating. "and married the girl he cheated on his ex-wife with? "Hell the (beep) no. "Not the asshole.". OP said, "He swore he wasn't cheating. "I'm sorry, but if my marriage fails, well it hasn't, "but I would do everything I could to prevent that. "But I sure as hell wouldn't be calling 1-800-find-a-bride, "especially with kids involved. "There's so many reasons I couldn't attend his wedding. "I felt like it was a huge slap. "in his young children's face. "He provided them an unstable household,

"then overnight Daddy has a new stepmom for you. "He was without a doubt cheating. "His ex knew it. "I had even asked if there was someone else, "but he swore there wasn't.". - It's very abusive also. to not let your partner have friends. - Oh my god. - That's like the textbook. abusive relationship. - Not let them go outside. Dictating their appearance. - No partner should ever tell you. how you should wear your hair. - Oh my god. No. - It's an immediate red flag. - Yeah.

- Someone said, "Don't think you'll regret this anytime soon. "You did the right thing. "You all know this new marriage. "is going to be a dumpster fire too, right? "Not the asshole. "Your daughter-in-law is lucky to have you.". OP said, "Yes, I can hope it'll work out, "but I know the odds are horribly. "against a successful long-term marriage. "After his engagement take two, "I messaged him and told him he should slow it down, "seek some counseling, and work on himself. "before jumping too fast into another relationship. "He won't listen to a single thing I have to say. "I'm 47 and I've been with one woman my entire life. "His mother. "We're not perfect, but I must be doing something right.

"I can't imagine jumping from relationship to relationship, "especially while kids are involved. "My wife and I have had some boo boos, "but we always work things out, "and neither of us ever thought about cheating. "or even separating.". This is wild. I mean, this is like, you know, he sounds so different from his parents. - But the sister is against him as well. - Yeah, the whole family. - And the sister's like... And that's showing me more things too. - Yeah, it's like this just feels, this feels odd. - Yeah.

- Update. "First I'd like to sincerely thank each and every one of you. "for your support, encouragement, and all the awards. "I know, without a doubt, I did the right thing. "I even feel differently now. "His mother should not have attended either. "But we can't go back and undo that. "So my son saw the post. "I had sent my daughter the link yesterday. "so she could read the comments. "This morning, she texted me at work, "'Dad, you went viral.'. "LOL, but anyways, he sent screenshots of the post. "and all my comments to his mom. "He also told her, 'He's dead to me now.'. "Time will tell if he means that. "I'm sure he'll see this update too.

"For that reason, I'm positively certain the second he needs. "another cash loan, I won't be dead anymore. "His mom told him, "'Your children have to be our number one priority. "'They're not just some disposable items you can leave. "'behind when one chapter of your life closes.'. "Maybe one day he'll understand this.". So, okay, so OP is the dad, and he's saying his wife is still supporting the son. - Yeah. - She brought the kids to his wedding. - Yeah, so they're not in full agreement. - But it sounds like the mom also said to the son-.

- That the children are the priority. - Yeah. - It sounds to me like she's trying to be the peacekeeper. - [Shayne] Yeah. - You know? - She doesn't wanna lose her son. - It's so different from what we usually see on Reddit. that they're supporting the ex-wife who dealt with, the victim, you know, in all this. - Yeah. - I mean, I think they feel some some form of responsibility. since they are their grandchildren. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I think it's great. I think it's really great that they are taking that side.

and kind of supporting her. because it sounds like she doesn't have any support. - Yeah. Whew. Well-. - Rough. - Well... - Yeah. - Can't wait. - Absolutely. That was some betrayal. - Betrayal. - That was intense. - Just like Summer Games. - Dude. - Yeah, you lost. - There was some serious betrayal. Somebody rigged that sign to fall, I just know. - No, that's a sign. - Somebody of the Hollywood Hotdogs came in here. to try to stir some shit with the Downtown Dairy Cows.

because they can't handle losing to us. - Isn't it weird? I'm just thinking about this. Isn't it weird that this is all, Summer Games is ending on a video. where we don't know what's about to happen. It's like full circle. - Full circle. - Like, we're back here. But we're seeing the signs. That's all gonna make sense. - [Amanda] The signs. - We don't have have the context yet for that. - Yeah. - But it's gonna make sense. - And someone's in that locker. Let 'em out. - Tommy. (crew laughs). - Tommy. - Come on out. And he just like... (Amanda imitates door creaking). - Wow. That betrayal story.

- Yeah. Well, thank you both for being here. - [Ian] This is great. - I'm forever changed. - This is a rough one. - Yeah. Yeah. Well... - [Amanda] Well... - Anyways, I hope you guys watched Summer Games, and if not, please check it out. It was a blast, I'm sure. (everyone laughs). And of course, we'll see you next Saturday. Goodbye. - Bye. - Bye.