Toxic Friendships | Reading Reddit Stories

- Welcome back to more absolutely wild Reddit stories. Back with us today is Jackie Uweh. (crew applauds). And first time here, Keith Leak. (crew applauds). - I just threw out gang signs. (everyone laughs). - Keith, do you ever go on Reddit? Are you a Redditor at all? - A Redditor? That's what it's called? - Reddit, yeah, yeah. - Obviously not. - [Jackie] No. That's no. - Redditor? That's really good. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. I think you would like some of it, but hate most of it.

- [Keith] Yeah? - So we pulled a bunch of stuff that I think you'll like. - Yeah, I love to hate. - Jackie, do you go on Reddit? - I do. - [Shayne] Yeah? - I don't ever post, but I... - You're a lurker? - I'm a lurker. - [Keith] Oh my god. - Are you willing to say like your favorite subreddits? - So my top ones are like the Bikini Bottom Reddit. - [Shayne] Okay, that's a good one. - The SpongeBob meme one. - [Shayne] Bikini Bottom Twitter. - What the hell is this? - I'm on the general Real Housewives Reddits. I just be lurking there. And then I go city by city sometimes,

and I'm like, ah, I'm not that far along. You know, kind of pull back. I pop into the Smosh Reddit. I be lurking. - We got a Reddit? - Smosh does have a Reddit. So most of this stuff that we pulled today. is from places like Am I The Asshole or Relationship Advice. These are like stories that people write anonymously to see, like, "Hey, am I crazy in this situation? "Is my friend being a jerk? "Am I being a jerk?". And they get weird. So buckle up. - Okay. All right, is there a seatbelt? - No.

- Okay. - No, you're on your own. - Okay. - Here we go, here's our first story. This comes from Relationship Advice. - Oh. - So this is a 27-year-old woman. - [Keith] Okay. - She says, "How to tell my friend, "who's a 26-year-old woman, "she's being used by a guy, who's 26, to make me jealous. "I don't want my friend dating this guy. "that has a crush on me. "Should I tell her to not pursue anything with him? "There's this guy, let's call him Mike, "I know through a mutual friend. "who occasionally comes out with us.

"In this particular friend group, there's five of us, "and six, when Mike comes. "Mike just moved to our state. "where we live about six months ago. "He immediately took a liking to me, but he's not my type. "I haven't even given him my number. "and will let him know we're not compatible. "He isn't weird about it. "After I curve him, he will go do other stuff, "but still may buy me a drink or some food. "throughout the night. "Fast forward last night, my friend, let's call her Mariah, "comes out with us. "Mariah is normally part of another circle of friends, "but she wanted to come out with us.

"The night starts out similar. "He asks if I'll finally give him my number. "I said, 'No thanks.'. "He jokes with me and then preoccupies himself. "That is until Mariah comes. "and he meets her for the first time. "Out of nowhere, he's chatting her up and they're laughing. "They did a karaoke duet where Mike sounded awkward. "and couldn't dance or sing, but Mariah killed it. "She tells how much she likes that Mike just is himself. "and isn't trying to act cool. "I suspect Mike was trying to make me jealous.

"It didn't work because I don't like him. "But it isn't fair to Mariah. "She texted me letting me know she gave Mike her number, "and that he's taking her out on a date Saturday. "How do I let her know Mike is just using her. "without hurting her feelings? "She didn't know Mike has a crush on me. "Sent on my phone, so excuse any typos.". Okay. So... - See... - Just to summarize, this guy Mike often hits on her, asks for her number, she keeps telling him no.

Finally, he goes and talks to someone else, and she's like, "Oh.". - Yeah. - [Shayne] "I need to tell her.". - Right. - [Shayne] "That he's not actually into her.". - Right, the thing is she doesn't know Mike is hitting. on all the girls in the group. (everyone laughs). - Yeah, yeah. - Like, straight up. - Mike's just trying to (beep) (laughs). - He's talking to Shatia. He's talking to Karen. He's talking to Ashley. He's also talking to Mariah. He's talking to whoever the other, he's talking to all of them. Mike does not care. That's the thing about, like a lot of guys,

they just really don't care. They're just trying to get it in where they can, where they can fit in. And what's the one girl's name? - Mariah? - No, not Mariah. - Oh, the OP. - The one who's like got, she's like kind of ego tripping a little. - [Jackie] What's her name? - The main girl, she doesn't have a name. - She doesn't have a name, so we should just call her Janet. - We typically call the person who wrote it OP. - OP. - Original poster. - Okay, OP. So OP, honestly, she has like, she has... Okay, I think a lot of people, we've all been in a situation.

where we like to be liked by someone. - Amen. - You know what I mean? - Yes. - Like, I think she's just, she's jealous. because she's not getting the attention anymore, which is the problem. She wants the upper hand. And I feel like people that want the upper hand like that, like you gotta watch out for 'em. - You know, I have been in this situation before. - Wanting the upper hand? - Not me. I'm not OP. (Keith and Shayne laugh). I am not. Not me like, "I'm 27.". (everyone laughs).

- Okay. - I'm 27. (everyone laughs). No, it sounds like, I mean, the fact that she's so concerned about the fact. that she needs to be the one to tell her, "Hey, he doesn't like you. "You're a basic ass bitch. "He can't like you because he liked me first, "and he's just trying to make me jealous. "So I just, I really don't wanna get your feelings hurt. "'cause there's no way he's interested in you. "He just wants me.".

- Someone in the comments accuses her of being jealous. of the other woman. - [Jackie] Mariah. - Of Mariah. And she goes, "No, that's not the case. "I'm actually rooting for them if he's not using her. "But I know how guys are. "Clearly you don't, and that's okay. "But don't imply things on me. "because you don't know how guys work.". - What? - I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Isn't she doing that to everybody involved. in this situation? - Y'all guys-.

- [Shayne] That is what she's doing. - It's a whole projection screen. A whole projection screen. Wow. - Someone, a guy steps in to defend the woman. and points out the OP is indeed jealous. So a guy writes, "I am a guy. "I know how guys are. "He's into her. "Quit trying to make it about yourself. "I've asked out more than one woman in a night. "Every guy on the planet has.". - Doesn't care. - [Shayne] "Move along.". - Move along. - She responds, "Have you asked out another woman's friend. "after said woman rejected you for six months?".

He responds, "Wouldn't think twice about it. "I wouldn't ask out an ex's friend, "but a friend of someone I had a crush on? "That means nothing. "Sorry you don't have his attention anymore.". - Ooh! - That's it. Come on! - I think people don't realize, like, guys can often work, like, you know, those toys that bump into a wall. and they immediately just go like another direction. - Just figure out a new direction. - Okay, like, and we just keep moving. - Well, I mean, also women do it too. Like, I've hit on every one of Keith's friends. that I meet that's single. - The funny thing about it, y'all, like all jokes aside,

she's not lying. (laughs). - [Jackie] Yeah. - We're working on, look, we're working on it right now. (Jackie and Keith laugh). - I'm like, "Oh no. "Okay next, okay.". - I'm like, "No, he's good.". (everyone laughs). - Keith on the side of the club. - [Keith] "Not that one, not that one.". - "Okay, let me shake my ass on somebody else.". - "This one, he's cool.". - Just "Night at the Roxbury.". Just like, "Hey!". I think this comment chain continues. So she says, after the guy says,

"Hey, this is how guys work. "Like, we don't care.". She goes, "Okay, well I should clarify. "A gentleman wouldn't do that. "At least not on the same night after asking. "for the girl they've been crushing on's number. "But it is what it is. "That's the problem with men today. "No one is raising you all to be gentleman.". - Oh my god! - He then responds, "Right. "I didn't realize you were the royal princess. "of (beep)-enburg.". (Jackie gasps and screams). - Oh! - "And you deserve the etiquette of being properly honored.

"by the man you rejected.". - Woo! - Oh my god! - "He should sulk in shame for a minimum of a fortnight. "Should he have brought you more food and drinks? "How about a foot rub? "Again, we can all see that you're upset he's moved along. "because you love the attention and freebies. "Grow up.". - Yo, this dude just clapped the back like none other. That's crazy. He's good. He's good. - When you started reading that last comment, I was like, "Has Damien entered the chat?". (everyone laughs). - Oh, indeed!

- Yeah, I was like why is this in Damien's voice? - Someone else said. in regards to like her comments, they said, "Her comments just make her look terribly jealous. "regardless of what she says. "If I were a betting gal, I say she likely wants. "to make sure her friend knows she is the main character.". And then someone said, "OP has now texted Mike in order to prove he liked her. "And in his response he's totally chill. "and doesn't give any indication he's asking Mariah out. "to use her.". A saga.

Wow. That's just a whole lot. Yeah., 'cause she could have easily been like, "Okay, cool. "Like, move on.". But she had to make a whole thing out of it. She literally went to the internet to write about this. - Yes, because attention is a hell of a drug. If you get a certain amount of attention. and like you get it for a little bit, once that's gone, you know what I mean? I know people that don't want attention but they get it, and then when they don't get it, they make a big deal out of it. Like, legitimately I know some people in my past.

that's like, yo, like you say you don't want attention, but you do this and you do that and blah, blah, blah. Then you wanna be seen. You wanna be seen. You wanna be heard. You want all the focus on you. And I mean like, if you like it, just say that. But I think she's denying it, and that's the problem. - Right, right. - That's the problem. - 'Cause she's probably still single and alone. - See, ooh! - I mean, every indication shows that. - She's alone. - 'Cause if the guy is hitting on her. for six months straight. and she doesn't say, "I have a boyfriend," or something.

- Hold on, and that's why she's single. - And she's single in her little palace of (beep)-enburg. - (beep)-enburg. (everyone laughs). Man, that guy must have felt so great typing that out. - Yeah. - Oh, absolutely. - He's like, "Man, that's my finest work.". - He's like, he felt triggered. (everyone laughs). He said... - I felt so man shamed. - I know. (everyone laughs). - I'm like, oh my god, I'm not a bad one. (everyone laughs). - Let's move on to the next one. - All right. - "Am I the asshole for not helping my friend upgrade her TV.

"even though my kid broke theirs?". - Ooh. (scoffs). Hold on, do we gotta read this one? (everyone laughs). Sorry. - This feels pretty clear. Okay. "Earlier this month, my friend had some people over. "and a lot of us brought our kids. "I brought my daughter who's five and my son who's two, "and supplied the main dish for lunch. "The adults were talking in the living room. "while the kids played throughout the house. "Normally at home my daughter knows how to use the remote. "to turn on her shows. "While we were talking, she found the remote.

"and tried to turn on one of her shows. "My friend was playing some music on the TV, "so she wasn't allowed to do that. "My friend told her to stop. "and told her to hand the remote over. "My daughter didn't like that, of course, because she's five. "and five-year-olds don't understand things like that.". (Keith laughs). They don't understand questions. "My friend kept demanding the remote, "and my daughter started to get upset. "I told my friend she's just a kid. "and she didn't mean anything bad, "so she shouldn't be so demanding.

"She asked me to try to get the remote from her, "but I felt like my daughter would have a tantrum. "if I took the remote, so I said no and leave her alone. "She kept being demanding with my daughter, "and she threw the remote at the TV.". - Oh! - "After that, I picked her up and my son. "and took them to the car and went home. "I couldn't deal with my friend. "and my daughter being mad at each other anymore. "I didn't see anything wrong with the TV when I was leaving, "but one small spot was broken.". That's something wrong.

"My friend sent me pictures of it. "and asked me to pay to replace the TV. "I felt like it was partly her fault. "because she was demanding with my daughter, "but I decided to be the bigger person and just pay.". - Oh my god. - "I asked her to send me a link to the TV. "and I'd buy the new one. "Here's where I think I might be the asshole.". Now is where I might be the asshole. "My friend said they were wanting to upgrade the TV, "so I should send her the price of the old TV. "so they can get a better TV. "I feel like that's taking advantage of my daughter.

"and my kindness, so I said no. "I told her I'd buy the same model TV and nothing else, "which I think is fair. "She told our friends who were also at the lunch, "and they kept bugging me about sending her the money. "They say it's all the same money to me. "But it's the principle of the thing. "Am I the asshole?". - Okay. - [Shayne] Okay. - Why are we fighting with children? (laughs). - First of all. - That's my first question. - The thing and my thing, the problem is, it sounds like little Caitlin runs the house.

'cause the mom was afraid. that she was gonna throw a tantrum. You know what I mean? Like, where's the order? I'm just trying to think of my mom in a situation like this. My mom would not go for any of her friend's children. Like, no. - With my mom, I wouldn't be making noise. (laughs). - Come on, yes. - At the home. - I don't understand. Whenever like, look, I'm not a parent, so like, it's a realm. that I don't feel I can critique too much.

But whenever I see kids, like young kids. who come up to strangers and demand (beep) them, I'm like, I remember being five. and being scared (beep) of like (beep) with strangers. Like, other adults, I had to be like... - [Keith] Stranger danger. - Whatever like, or just even my parents' friends. I can't like (beep) with them. And if I go to someone's house, I can't (beep) with their (beep). - That's auntie. It's like, "No. "Yes, auntie.". - Look, see this thing, I'm also not a parent, but-. - It's apparent. - But I'm not a parent, but I will critique.

And that little girl, come on. Come on, we need some discipline right now. - The fact that it's like, "No, that's her remote now.". I'm sorry. Hey, you're (beep) up. So speaking of discipline, there's an edit here. "I don't know what everyone expects. "It's not like I can spank her in front of everyone. "You just think I don't discipline her at all. "But people are so sensitive these days, "I can't whoop her at my friend's house.". - Well, whoop her when you get home. (everyone laughs). I'm sorry. - My reaction to that,

it's like it's not even about spanking. It's just like you as the parent, hey, tell your daughter to give the remote back. - Yeah. - Like, why are you making your friend do this work? Like, do it. - Also, how strong is the five-year-old's grip? Take the remote. (laughs). - This is my future Olympian daughter. (laughs). - Oh my god. She's like as big as The Rock. - Yeah. - And threw it at a TV and broke it. - Yeah. - She's got some muscle. - She's gonna get a scholarship someday. - [Keith] Yeah. - So, yeah, you know, she brings up,

"It's not like I can spank her in front of everyone,". as if that's the only option. - Yeah. - Right? There's a million things I assume. - You can threaten a child and it works well. (everyone laughs). - I've gotten a couple threats. - I've gotten threatened. And let me tell you, I stand in line. If you're in line, stay in line. (crew laughs). - Stay in line. That's right. - I'm still scared. (everyone laughs). (beep). I am a rule follower to this day. - Oh my god, that is true, you are. - It's true. I'm like, "Wait, I didn't wanna do anything wrong.".

(everyone laughs). I'm still scared of authority. I never got hit. Nothing ever happened to me. I just knew. I just respect authority. - So yeah, and then there's the financial side of this, and the friend is just asking. for the price of the original TV. - [Jackie] Yeah. - So that they can put it towards, she doesn't want her to buy the old TV again. - [Jackie] Okay, okay. - She wants, hey, just the amount of money. that it was worth so that we can buy a new TV. And for some reason she has an issue with that. But it's like, it's the same money. - The mom of the daughter has issues.

with everything, honestly. The daughter, like, it's just too much for me. It's too much. And I think the friend is actually being logical, you know what I mean? Like, straight up logical, to the point, this is what it is. And I think the, I really hope that somewhere along the way, the mom with the daughter, I hope that she can, like, she learns to discipline her daughter some type of way. because this kid is on her way to jail. (everyone laughs).

She on her way to jail. I'm just telling you. I got a couple cousins and it gives that, and they are in jail. - Are in jail. You know where they're at? Jail. - No, hold on. Prison. (everyone laughs). - [Shayne] Oh my god. - She's going to prison. - I feel like it's a fair ask. Or like, if she's like, okay, she dented the TV. and if she feels like she's being taken advantage of, it's like there's also, do you wanna replace the screen of the TV? I will send you the money to replace the screen.

It's like, 'cause like there is a difference. between taking your broken phone to Apple. versus taking it to like a little kiosk. And they just, you know, like 80 bucks, quote you that to fix the screen. Some of us have done that. - Yeah, you've done that? - Yeah. - I've got friends. Some of my friends done it. I've never done that. - Yeah, I mean, there's other ways. - [Shayne] There's also... (Keith laughs). (Jackie laughs). I'm also the type that like, look, aesthetics matter, but if it was like the TV, if like the frame of the TV was maybe a little messed up, but the screen works perfectly fine.

- Oh, we're moving on. - I think I'm someone who'd be like, fine. It depends. I probably wouldn't want to talk to this person anymore. Like, this is just such (beep) behavior. - But Shayne, you avoid conflict. - Yes. - We don't have to talk about that right now. (everyone laughs). - Yes. - Shayne's like, "Yeah, never talking about that again.". - But also it's like her... (everyone laughs). So anyways, moving on. (everyone laughs). But like, it's not like this is gonna get any better, and if someone is this selfish, it's like, are you expecting them to just change overnight?

Like... But we have some comments here. "You owe her the money. "However your friend uses it. "However your friend uses it is up to her. "Maybe parenting your child would be cheaper next time.". Someone else says, "You're the asshole. "For one thing, your attitude absolutely sucked. "If you can't teach your children. "to respect other people's houses, "you shouldn't be taking them there.". - Boom. - "Your child acted horrendously. "and you have the nerve to get upset at your friend. "Yeah, that's not cool. "Also, you're the asshole for not doing the right thing. "and just sending her the cost of the TV.

"Your kid broke it. "Pay for what your child broke, period.". - Yes, you break, you buy. - And last comment, "The comment about five-year-olds. "not understanding thing kills me. "I teach five-year-olds, "and the only ones who don't understand boundaries and rules. "are the ones whose parents don't give them boundaries. "Even my kids who come to me. "from special ed understand the basic rules. "about respecting other people's stuff.". Yeah, I feel like by five. can have a general sense of don't break other people's TV. - Yes, absolutely. - Don't throw a remote at the TV.

- I was doing whole math equations by five. (crew laughs). None of y'all believe me. I was lying. (everyone laughs). - I wanted to get out a pen and paper. and have you do some math equations right now. - I was like where's the math? - I was reading in French at five. - Let's cut to the clip of us all trying to, 47, whatever that fucking math was in Beopardy. 42. - 42, 45! - 46. - Oh my god, don't embarrass me. - I'm embarrassed. (laughs). I'm still thinking about that episode.

- There's a lot of pressure. - Yes. Oh my god. - God. - Yeah, kids understand. - They know. - They're brighter than what we give them credit for. - Kids are smart. I also, I love, I will say I love talking to kids like adults. Like, not like fighting with children, but just like, I mean, kids are really smart. They're very smart. And so it's like, let's not undermine the child. You know what I mean? Like, okay. - Next story. (everyone laughs). "Would I be the asshole for not attending.

"my twin brother's surprise birthday dinner. "when I was only invited as a guest?". Okay. Okay, so I get it. It's their birthday too, so it's like... Okay, here we go. "So I'm a twin. "My brother and I hang out all the time. "and we are super close. "In a few days it's our 25th birthday. "We share the same friend group, "and we're all really close and have been since high school, "have been since school. "He has a close group of girl friends, about five of them, "who I have also known for many years.

"I would class them as being closer with him. "in recent years, but we are still good friends. "and socialize often together. "Now I have been added to a group chat labeled. "my brother's name surprise dinner. "It is a surprise birthday dinner for my twin brother. "organized by one of the girls in that group. "And they have invited me as a guest. "One of them also said in the group. "that it would be nice to see me as well. "So I just feel like an afterthought. "I wouldn't really have minded. "if the girls wanted to organize a surprise birthday evening. "exclusively for my brother and themselves.

"But they have also invited my partner. "and some of my brother and I's closest friends. "This feels inconsiderate and quite upsetting. "as I can't understand why I would be invited. "to my literal twin brother's surprise birthday dinner. "with me only invited as a guest. "as it is also my birthday involving all of our friends. "My girlfriend also found this action to be extremely rude. "and wondered why this girl didn't just reach out to her, "and then they could have organized a surprise. "involving both of us instead.

"or have just involved both my brother and I. "and left the surprise element out of it. "In the chat, it is clearly stated. "that we are all to arrive at one time. "while my brother is due to arrive 20 minutes later. "The thought of attending makes me feel weird. "because it's just a celebration for his birthday. "when he and I are literally born on the same day. "This isn't new information to the organizer. "Also, every year my brother and I do something together. "because we want to and because we have the same friends. "Last year, our friends and my girlfriend.

"set up a massive dinner for our birthday. "to which everyone was invited, including the girl group. "Now I'm at a crossroads. "I don't know whether or not to attend. "On one hand, if I don't go, I'll feel left out. "because our mutual friends are going. "But on the other hand, if I do go, "I will feel like I am letting myself get disrespected. "and I will likely feel uncomfortable. "as it feels like only my brother is being celebrated. "So would I be the asshole if I took a stand and didn't go?". There's an edit here. "My girlfriend has just checked the chat, "and the organizer has booked the dinner for 10 people.

"and a set menu. "There are currently 11 attending, "excluding my girlfriend and I. "If we went, this would make it way over capacity. "Now we really aren't sure if we should go. "because what if we turn up and there is no room? "This makes it slightly more awkward. "as we may not be able to just pull up a chair and join. "The dinner is tomorrow also.". What? - Yes, he is the asshole. See, this is my thing. If he would've RSVP'd earlier, he would have a seat for sure. - That's kind of an unimportant. He's using that as an excuse of like, why.

"Oh, you know what? "Actually the reason I shouldn't go. "is there's maybe not enough room for me anyway.". - Yeah. - Oh. - He's definitely doing a whole "woe is me" kind of thing. Now here's the like defense for this guy. is that it's all of his friends. It's like his whole social circle. - But they're not as close anymore. - Still the friend group. - It's his friend group. It's he and his brother's friend group. And so it is his birthday also. But everyone's just asking him to come. to his brother's surprise birthday party.

I think he's feeling like nobody's acknowledging. that it's his birthday as well. I understand that. I'm gonna say like, I understand where he's coming from. - [Jackie] Yes. - I think he needs to communicate that better. - Yeah. - And understand that more like... - [Jackie] Yeah. - Or he could just show up. and it'd be his birthday too. (laughs). That's what I do sometimes. If my friends have a birthday, I'm like, oh, it's my birthday too. - [Jackie] I mean... (everyone laughs). - On their birthdays that aren't your birthday. - You know?

- I think it's also that he's being looped in. as like it's a surprise for his brother. - [Keith] Oh. - And so it's like, it's just very much like, oh, okay, like cool. - I got an easy fix. He can show up with his brother. and act like he doesn't know. Boom, surprise! Happy birthday to y'all! - See and this is where the emotions of it all come in. (laughs). - [Keith] Oh, I can see that. - I feel like his feelings are hurt. - Definitely. - And I think... I feel like if he does not want to go, he does not have to go. He can do whatever he wants.

It is his birthday. He can spend his birthday doing whatever he wants. If he doesn't feel celebrated, he is not required to go. That's okay. If he wants to do something with his brother. or celebrate with that group of friends. where he feels like he's the center of attention, then maybe they can plan another thing. Or when he was added to said group chat, that is when you go to the side of group chat. and you'd be like, "Hey, like... "Hey, can we talk about this? "Or like, can we just like-". - "Like, you know it's my birthday too.". - Yeah, like, "Hey, like I'm feeling, "like this feels weird.".

Or like, you know what I mean? Or if his girlfriend wants to do that on his behalf. and like side, you know, whoever's organizing it. because it seems like the intent. for the friend group is like good, right? And also like, maybe it's like, okay, maybe he needs his own little surprise party. to make himself feel better. Like, not to be rude. (laughs). - [Keith] No, for sure. - I think a lot of it's the framing of it. The way that they're like, "Yeah, you can come as well.". Like, it wasn't like, "Oh, it's your birthday also.". - No, that's how I, they don't like him.

(Shayne laughs). That's how I know. Because this is the thing, have you ever been friends with a brother and a sister. or like whatever? - [Jackie] Yes. - And there's always the one that's just like, ah, we don't really want them to come. Oh, you can come too. - Yes. - You've been there? - I have been. in a very similar situation. - They don't like him. He has some character flaws. - But like, that's what I'm saying, like, he has agency. Like, if he doesn't wanna go, he doesn't have to go. He can just be like, no, we're not. Yeah, it feels (beep). Like, I get that it feels (beep). If he doesn't wanna go, he doesn't have to go, 'cause it's like, "Hey, I'm not going. "Like, I don't want to.

"I feel weird.". Like, whatever. And he can do whatever he wants to do. - It's very, yeah. And the verdict was overwhelmingly not the asshole. People sided with him. - Overall yeah. - I think the only thing I'm thinking is like, it feels like if he doesn't go, like his brother didn't do anything wrong. - No. - And is that like him not showing up, like, I would kind of be like... I would, I don't know. It'd be hard to then not show up to my brother's. Like, I would want a surprise for him too. You know what I mean? - Right.

- But I get that. And I feel like that's gotta be a tough dilemma. for twins of like you're always lumped together. You never get your own individual thing. 'Cause I can't help but think that. It's like neither of them ever get. to have their own individual party. - Yeah. - I think that's where it's like, okay, if the girlfriend also feels like, like if everyone feels like, oh, like that's weird, and like, yeah, it is inconsiderate. Like, it is absolutely inconsiderate. And because you're in this scenario. Okay, then what, right? Like, how are you gonna celebrate yourself?

What do you wanna do for your birthday? Is this the day that you go to Six Flags by yourself. on your 25th birthday? - Oh, it sounds terrible. when all the friends are gonna be on the... - But like, it's like, or is someone gonna organize, like is your girlfriend gonna organize you your own thing? If that's a thing. - Oh, he does have a girlfriend. Where's she at? - She's mad. She's upset. She's upset for him. - Sounds like homegirl's gotta plan a party. - Right. - Yeah, I guess that is also, does suck. is that like days before, it's like basically your whole friend group says, "Hey, we're not celebrating your party.

"We're doing nothing for your birthday. "because we're doing this.". - But he also didn't plan a birthday. - [Shayne] True, it's true. - Like, especially look, birthdays are a tricky, tricky situation. ♪ It's a tricky situation ♪. That's a really awful reference. - What happened? - Sorry. (Jackie and Keith laugh). - That's a really deep cut from the Wedding Singer musical. Anyway, no, but like, so, okay, like, let's also, we're all talking hypotheticals. So like, this dude is also like,

"I wonder what we're gonna do for my birthday.". Like (laughs). And like he's just like, oh, they planned, like, you can plan a birthday. - Can I say something though? - Yeah, absolutely. - I have a theory. - Yeah, go ahead. - What if there is a surprise for him planned? - That's what I'm saying. - You never freaking know. - 'Cause yeah, it's like, it is strange. that this friend group invited his friends. So this feels fishy. And there's an update.

- Okay, this might change everything. - And everything's different. "Hey, sorry guys. "I know you all have been wanting an update, "but I felt like I really had to sit with my feelings. "for a few days and really think. "about the nuances of the situation. "I also wanna thank you all for your supportive comments. "It made me feel like I wasn't going crazy, haha.". - Happy birthday. (everyone laughs). - "There's been a lot of common questions, "so I'll try to answer those first. "Could this be a secret surprise for me too? "No, definitely not.". (Keith laughs).

"I was added to the group chat with all the other guests. "and was given instructions on when to be there. "and when we would all surprise my brother. "Also, this girl is not that thoughtful, haha. "And if it was a secret surprise, my partner would've known. "and wouldn't have just let me suffer in silence. "Does this girl have a crush on my brother?". - What? - "I was actually...". So I guess people were asking if she has a crush. on his brother. "I was actually impressed by people's intuition. "It's not really a straightforward crush. "She's been hot and cold with him, but they aren't together.

"I do think that she tries hard. "to be the most important girl friend in his life though. "So I think her organizing his surprise dinner. "is her way of further trying to achieve that status. "So you guys were spot on.". - It's a possibility. - "To the few who said that I need to get out of my feelings. "and go, I would've absolutely had no problem at all. "if they wanted to do something with just my brother alone. "if they had just left it to their girl group. "to celebrate him and left me out of it. "I respect that they are closer to my brother,

"and I would've been happy for him. "The problem arises when I'm invited as a bystander. "and my partner and some of my best friends are invited too. "while completely disregarding that it's my birthday also. "That's what made me feel (beep). "Why haven't some of my closest friends. "who are invited say anything? "Haven't they said anything? "I got a call from a friend the day of the dinner, "and he said he spoke with our other close friend, "and they agreed that it was extremely rude. "and a strange thing to do. "I asked him why none of them spoke up on my behalf, "and he just apologized. "and said he didn't have any excuses for it.

"They still ended up going to the dinner. "My other close friend rang up the day, "and she said that she's not attending. "because it doesn't feel right to do. "Then this close friend ended up texting one of the girls. "from that group explaining why she won't be there. "The girl then responded with excuses. "and said it's not that big of a deal.". - Whoa. - "So I spoke to my other close friends who are also twins. "They weren't invited to the dinner.". They weren't invited. "And just asked them how they would feel.

"if they were in this situation. "They pretty much said what the majority of you all said. "They were so angry on my behalf. "and said it's extremely messed up. "and that they wouldn't go if this was them. "They then created new dinner plans with myself, "my girlfriend, and my brother, and our closest friends. "so that we can do a new celebration. "after our birthday instead. "I didn't go to the dinner. "It was two nights ago. "So my girlfriend and I went to see a movie instead. "We figured if we took the radio silent route, "our absence would hopefully speak for itself. "I was really considering saying something in that chat,

"but I was also not wanting them to paint me as aggressive. "I was also considering calling my brother the morning of. "and ruining the surprise. "because I wanted to let him know what was going on. "and just talk to him. "But at the same time I felt like an asshole doing. "that to him. "I wanted him to have his moment too. "So I decided to wait until the day after the dinner. "to say something. "I spoke to my brother yesterday and showed him the post, "and he recognized that it was very rude and stupid of her. "and said it felt weird for him too.

"He explained he had nothing to do with it, "which of course I already knew that. "and let him know that I never blamed him for it at all. "He said that at the dinner, "the organizer said that she invited me and my partner. "but that we just didn't come. "So he wasn't actually aware that I was invited. "only as a guest until afterwards. "But he hasn't said anything to her yet. "I'm not sure if he will mention something to her later on. "or not though. "The organizer hasn't said anything to me either, "but I don't really care about hearing from her anyway. "Yesterday both me and my brother went. "to the new celebration dinner together,

"which was really nice and we both had a really good time. "So really this whole thing just highlights. "who my actual friends are.". Yeah. Wow. - I am drained. - I know. And you know what? - That was draining. - That girl, she's fuming. 'Cause she wasn't invited. Look, I, ooh. - [Shayne] Oh 'cause she wasn't invited to this other. - There's no (beep) way she was invited to the, and she's just at home like (groans). - So now it's gonna be a tit for tat thing. Oh, this relationship's not gonna work. - Bitches, man. No, I'm kidding.

(everyone laughs). - I don't know. You know what? I really think that, you know, sometimes you just gotta speak up and say what it is. Like, you know, he could have texted the group chat. and said, "Hey guys, I'm not dead yet.". Just been passive aggressive. - Oh. (laughs). - Straight up. - Communicate, passive aggressive. - He could have went there. This is the thing, sometimes you gotta play. (crew laughs). (Shayne laughs). I don't mean that. (everyone laughs).

- I guess ultimately it's a happy story. It worked out between the brothers. I mean, I don't know. I agree-. - Are they conjoined? - Yes. (everyone laughs). - I'm like... - He was gonna be there. (everyone laughs). Sorry. - He's like, "What are you texting?". (everyone laughs). - "No, I'm not coming.". - Guys, I forgot to tell my mom happy birthday. - Is it today? - No, it was a couple weeks ago. She said, "You know my birthday was April 23rd.".

- Oh. - And I said, I said... "Happy birthday.". I felt so bad. - 'Cause she was just here, Keith. - She was just here. - And she pampered this boy. - She did pamper me. But the thing is, I have a lot going on. (crew laughs). I sound so bad! Mom, I love you, girl. Happy birthday. I'll make it up one day. - Sorry mom, you're here on the list. I got so much else going on. - I wanna know what you had going on on her birthday.

- Truly, truly forgot. I was also in Austin, so I wasn't like here. I was like, you know. - [Jackie] Yeah, I know. - I was in a different time zone. I thought it maybe... - Yeah, I didn't know the time. - You were probably closer to her time zone. 'cause of where you were. - Leave me alone! - Sorry. Not me knowing you're life. - Do I sound like a terrible person? - No, it happens. - It's okay, it's okay. "Am I the asshole for wanting my friend. "to delete a picture off of his phone? "I will tell you the story by steps. "One, five friends and I go partying while on a trip. "Two, a group of girls approach.

"Three, a friend watches me talking with one of the girls. "and takes a picture of us. "Four, at the end of the night, "I asked him to delete the picture. "because my girlfriend has serious trust issues.". - Oh! - "And if she saw the picture, she would freak out. "even though we were just having a casual conversation. "Five, he refuses because he said I have a picture. "of him intoxicated with alcohol, "so he doesn't wanna delete that picture. "We've been friends for 10 plus years. "We both have a ton of embarrassing pictures of each other.

"And he has me puking, wasted. "I told him the pictures were just memories, "and he also had plenty of pictures of me. "in those circumstances. "I pleaded with him for a solid 10 minutes. "and explained why that picture could be catastrophic. "for my relationship. "Six, he denied. "Seven, I bargained with him. "that we both delete all the embarrassing pictures. "Eight, he denied. "He wanted just to delete that one. "and I to delete everything. "Nine, after 45 minutes of bargaining, I got desperate.

"10, I went full ballistic. "and told him the price he was paying. "if he didn't delete it.". - What? Hold on. We talking money? - Murder? - "11, he refused. "12, I disassembled the door in a non-peaceful manner. "and reminded him of the price of his stubbornness.". - Oh my god. - Oh! Oh. - "I disassembled the door in non-peaceful manner". is the most, that's the scariest (beep) I've ever heard.

- It's giving serial killer. - Ooh. - It's giving a Terminator. "13, he gave me his phone, "and I deleted the photos from recently deleted, "Google Drive, and Google Photos. "14, am I the asshole?". (crew laughs). - What the (beep) - Ew, ew. - Yo, like, so this is a thing, when it comes down to certain friendships, sometimes you can go there and like play. Like, this was obviously the, like he was not letting this happen at all. Like, this was like the cutoff.

This is where he wanted to opt out. And like, if you have a good friend, like me and my friends, we keep it going. Like, this is my thing. I don't think he would ever send the picture. to the guy's girlfriend at all. But if you have embarrassing pictures of each other, like why not keep it? You know what I mean? Just in case, just in case. - Not me thinking, the way that this man is going. at these points and like, "Yeah, I'm gonna delete it.". And I'm like, it's going on my hard drive absolutely. (everyone laughs). - Wait. - On 13 he said, "He gave me his phone,

"and I deleted the photos from recently deleted, "Google Drive, and Google Photos.". So he went through everything. - Exactly. - And I like how he says, "He gave me his phone.". It's like, well you just busted down his door. I don't know if this was consensual. Like, I think-. - It wasn't! - [Shayne] I think he was terrified. - I'm sorry, this man is cheating on this woman. - That's exactly what it is. - I don't even know if that's the worst part of this guy. at this point. - He's cheating.

- He is doing that. I think he's also killing people on the side. - [Keith] A serial killer for sure. - He's absolutely cheating. - Extra info that he wrote down. This is also numbered. - Oh, goodie. So we can all follow along. - "One, girlfriend's trust issues are due to family history. "Not my fault. "Two, we are all 25. "Three, it was literally a conversation. "about a class we had, indeed casual conversation. "Four, all the conversation was on our way home.

"And when we arrived, I busted his bedroom door. "We are roomies on a trip. "Five, I'll pay for the door. "I don't understand what his need is for keeping that photo. "and ruining a 10 plus year friendship. "I think a friend wouldn't even think about putting you. "in that situation. "He knows my girlfriend has trust issues. "because of personal causes. "and less being fully aware of the context. "and possible consequences.". I just think this guy is nuts. - But like Jackie was right, he's straight up cheating. - [Shayne] Oh, for sure.

- He just said, "It's not my fault.". - "It's not my fault.". - Anybody that says it's not their fault, it's their fault. - Yeah, the fact that you have this picture. and if you don't delete it, you're the reason that you're going to disrupt this 10 plus. How did I get involved like this? - I just think if someone busts down my door, I'm probably gonna have to call that quits. Like, that's a lot. That's scary. - "Bro, why aren't we friends?". "You broke my door down.". - "And you said you disassembled it in a non-peaceful way.".

That's somehow worse than the actual kicking down the door. - Yeah. - 'Cause at least you know it's coming. - Yeah, if he had, I'm not kidding, if he had said, "So I busted down his door,". I would judge him less harshly. It's because he said that (beep). - [Keith] Yeah, it was sneaky. - That's some weird (beep). - He's also like trying to like rewrite this narrative. in a very specific way where it's like, who the (beep) says it like that? Like, are you trying to go to court? - Yeah, oh absolutely. - Like, "I broke the door down in a non-peaceful manner.".

- "And reminded him of the price of his stubbornness.". - Yeah, like how does he talk to other people? I don't trust him. I'm feeling uncomfortable. - So some comments here. "I disassembled the door in a non-peaceful manner. "and reminded him of the price of his stubbornness. "This is the weirdest way. "to say you broke a fucking door in. "This is just slightly below saying, "somehow the door got busted down.". Someone else said, "The numbering style irritates me. "almost as much as all these red flags.".

(Keith laughs). - Wow, that's funny. - Someone said, "This seems like an everyone sucks here situation. "OP for obvious reasons. "The friend because what the (beep). "Unless he caught them like making out or something. "And if the girlfriend is really that jealous and insecure, "it just sounds like everyone sucks.". (Keith laughs). - Yeah. - I'd be curious what this photo looks like. and what the context. Was he just like-. - You know what the photo is? It's him like... (Shayne laughs). Like, they're not making out, but it's like,

"Hey, hey girl.". - [Shayne] So you think the friend like-. - "Hey girl, you are you drinking a cranberry vodka tonight? "'Cause I could... "'Cause my girlfriend loves a cranberry vodka.". (everyone laughs). That's the photo. That's the photo. - What do you think the friend's motivation-. (everyone laughs). What was the friend's motivation in taking it? Do you think he's literally trying to like-. - Yes! - Trying to uncover it? (Jackie stumbles). - What is in the means of the photo.

that would cause the trust issues with the girl? - Yeah. (Keith laughs). Get away from me. (everyone laughs). - Like, why is it so damning? What is he doing? - [Shayne] Yeah. - [Crew] There's something they're not telling. - We need another numbered list. - Oh my god, I don't think I have another one in me. He did it. - He's like, "Also the update, I cheated on her one time, "but it's because-" - [Shayne] "It doesn't count.". - "She went on a long vacation and didn't tell me.". - "We were on a break.". - "She was really sick so we couldn't have sex.".

- Yeah, "So I (beep) someone else.". - Yeah. - "So she shouldn't have gotten sick.". (Keith laughs). - All right, moving on from that psycho. - She shouldn't have had her immune system fall. in an unpeaceful way. (beep). (everyone laughs). - Accurate. Okay. "Am I the asshole for helping my friend get a job?". - Why are all these hitting so close to home? (everyone laughs). I'm exhausted. I'm tired! I'm tired!

I'm tired of friends! I'm tired of family! I'm tired of everybody! - [Keith] Okay. - Tired of my cats! - Jackie, woosah. I need to woosah. - "Am I the asshole for helping my friend get a job?". This is a 35-year-old woman. "Convinced my best friend, a 25-year-old woman, "to join the business I was in.". - [Jackie] Oh. - "Let's call her Sarah. "I explained to her that we could make a lot of money. "and be our own bosses by selling various household items.". Okay. "She was skeptical at first, but I managed to persuade her.

"by showing her how much I had already made. "and telling her that this was the perfect opportunity. "for us to be financially free.". Okay. She said all the buzzwords. "Sarah quit her job to focus on the business full time. "just like I did." - Oh no. - Sarah's the 25-year-old? - Yeah. "We attended all the meetings and events together, "and we were both convinced. "that we were going to be successful.". - It's Herbalife. - [Shayne] "However...". (crew laughs). - Herbalife! - I actually think you're right. - It's either Herbalife, LuLaRoe, or it is, what is it?

- Mary Kay. - Mary Kay, Avon. - Avon. - "However, Sarah just wasn't good at it. "She struggled to make sales.". - Damn. - "No matter how hard she tried, "she just lacked the charisma needed to make it. "and was too worried about bothering her family. "by asking them to buy. "She eventually fell behind on rent. "and was evicted from her apartment. "She had nowhere to go and ended up living on the streets. "Even then, she still believed in the business. "and thought that she just needed to work harder. "to make it work, but has now decided.

"that it is my fault she lost everything. "Our other friends are calling me an asshole. "and saying I'm the reason she and her kid are homeless.". (Jackie screams). "Looking back, I don't feel much remorse. "for what happened to Sarah. "I was just trying to help her.". - Oh my god. - "It's not my fault she couldn't make it work. "I am sorry she is in a rough situation, "but she could have been more committed and worked harder. "So am I the asshole. "for getting my friend the job of her dreams?". You just said she worked her ass off. and quit her job for it. What? - Oh my god. - You know what? It's probably Cutco.

(crew laughs). Probably out here selling knives. - Have either of you ever been approached. to join an MLM at all? Has that ever happened? Have you ever had friends get into it? - Oh yes. - [Shayne] Really? - Yes. - I've never actually experienced. So this is clearly a multi-level marketing scam, or scheme, where where you buy stuff. and you need to sell it to other people for more money. - Like Herbalife? - Yes, literally. The shape of the structure is like a pyramid. So it starts here and you sell it to people.

and then they buy that and then they sell it to more people. And it's- - Pyramid scheme. - It's like people on your down line are, by adding more people to your down line, it-. - Yeah. - Well, I'm not explaining it to you, I'm just in general explaining. - Yeah, yeah, so for people at home. - Yeah, so you just add people onto your team, and as they buy product, you get a cut back of the money. So whether or not they sell it, it's the fact that they purchased product. that you are then getting a percentage.

And so then people are left with all of this product. - And they don't sell it. Yep. - And they don't sell it. - The design of it is someone gets (beep) along the way. And Sarah got (beep). - You gotta get in early. - Multi-level marketing is a pyramid scheme, but it involves a product. to kind of cover it up a little bit. But it's a pyramid scheme. And ultimately someone gets fucked along the way. - Can I give a shout out to my fifth grade teacher. who hit me up on Facebook? Was like, "Hey Keith, do you wanna make some extra money?". (crew laughs). - Oh my god! - And I know it was her. And I know it was her.

because we ended up getting on the phone. So she was-. - Oh! (laughs). - I'm serious. You know how sometimes like there's like-. - You need money, yeah. - So look, so she was like, she hit me up. She was like, "Hey, how have you been since fifth grade?". You know, all of that. I'm like, "Yo, hey so-and-so.". Miss so-and-so, I'mma call her Miss so-and-so, okay. So I was like, "Hey, Miss so-and-so.". She was like, "It's been so long. "Do you have time to get on a phone call? "And this, that, and the other.". Mind you, she was like one of my favorite teachers. (laughs). - Damn. - She was great. She was really sweet to me.

She used to put me in some art shows here and there, 'cause I used to like paint and stuff. So she was like really cool. Not my favorite teacher, but like a really good teacher. - And she thought you were her most gullible student. - And this is the thing, so we got on the phone call. Got on the phone call. And I'm like, "Yo, how's everything?". She was like, "Everything's great, "but I wanted to talk to you about this, Herbalife.". Straight up. She was like, you know, she explained to me all the things. and this, that, and the other. She was like, "But you need to like start out, "you start with giving $1,000. "And then from there, you know what I mean?

"You know, we'll be in the...". Y'all, I was like, hold on. I thought I like liked you. You know what I mean? I thought we were like cool. But like I knew it was something wrong. I'm like, somebody asking me for any money to do some stuff. Like, you hit me up. Why do I have to pay $1,0000? Can you just give me $1,000? - And the thing about MLMs too is like, it's like every generation, like it gets repackaged every couple years. So like I have a friend that did LuLaRoe. And like, I'm not pro MLMs by any means,

but for where she was at at the time, like having her selling really well, like having that money in a certain place, like yes, she lost at the end of it, but like having this surplus at the time did help her out. But, but specifically like with LuLaRoe, which is like they sell these, no not me marketing. They sell buttery soft leggings. (Keith laughs). But there's a documentary called "LulaRich". that's fascinating about like that MLM specifically.

But there's like doTERRA with the essential oils. It's really popular for my Utah girlies. Yeah, the fact that she does not see how she is involved. is a red flag. - I mean, 'cause yeah, like you're involved in these things. She knew she was getting her friend into a situation. that can completely (beep) her over. - Absolutely. - I don't think she does 'cause she's thriving. - Do you think she's really-. - [Jackie] She's in it. - She's truly in denial. Or like just truly blinded by...

- The real problem is that she didn't offer her friend. and the kid to stay at her place. That's a problem. Like, if you get somebody to start doing some things, it doesn't work out. Like, I mean, me personally, I'll be like, "Yo, come stay with me until you get stuff figured out.". You know? Like, right? But like they're homeless. - Yeah, she's 10 years older than her, and like, you know, 25 isn't super young. But it's also like, I think she probably is preying.

on people she knows she can convince to get into this. and like... - Yes. - It's unfortunate. - And I don't, like I feel like people in MLMs that deep in. that are like, "This is an amazing opportunity.". - They don't know. - Like, they believe it. Like, that's the other thing that like-. - 'Cause money's coming in. - Yeah. - [Shayne] 'Cause she's making money. - Yeah, it is money based. Like, yes, she might be preying on her, but like you can hear it in the way. that she has this post that like she doesn't see. She's like, "Well, you just didn't do it well.

"Like, I'm thriving. "You just couldn't cut it. "And that's unfortunate because you couldn't. "Like, you need to pick yourself up by your bootstraps. "and, you know, you really need to find housing. "for you and your kid. "Maybe find another job. "But I did everything I can in this situation.". It's crazy. - Oh no. Ridiculous. - One of the comments here pointing out, "You didn't help her get a job. "She had a job, "and now she doesn't have a job thanks to you. "You enrolled her in a multi-level marketing scheme. "You're the asshole.".

Yeah, it's true. She was really trying to pull her away. Like, she was fine. She didn't need this. Like, she really was trying to like... - The girl's, honestly, she's really gullible. Where are her other friends. because like I always try to reach out to different friends. before I make like a certain decision. You know what I mean?0. - And sometimes he listens and sometimes he doesn't. - That's true. I would not do it at all. I would not do any of this. - I completely understand how people fall into this. I completely understand. - I don't know.

But she had a great job. That's the part that-. - I don't know how, let's see. - She had a job. - Yeah, I don't know if she had a great... "Sarah quit her job to.". Just said she had a job. I highly doubt it was like, obviously she must have had incentive to be like-. - Yeah, yeah. - She has a kid. Like, she probably was hoping, "Oh man, I can be in a place where this is easier.". - [Jackie] Have financial freedom. - Would y'all do it? - No. - I just need to ask 'cause I need to know. who my friends are. - Yeah. - You'd do that?

- Like, there have been times in my life where I'm like, I really want this financial freedom. So if this is presented to me in a way where I'm like, I'm going to make money, like I could see myself potentially doing it, right? 'Cause it's also like a mind, it's like a mind game. It's like wherever you're at, when you're broke. - [Keith] When you're broke, yeah. - When you are broke, like you will do things. If this is a way out of that, like I could see myself falling into it. At this point, no, 'cause I know more now, but like I understand it.

- Would you do something strange for a piece of change? - Would I do something strange for a piece of change? - [Keith] Yeah. - Are we not on Smosh? (everyone laughs). Absolutely. - I guess I also, I can't, I'd be hypocritical. I mean, no. If I said no. If I was going back to pre 25 and like the whole like, if the crypto thing happened when I was like. in my early 20s, I could have seen myself. just 'cause you're just like, yeah, this is technology. This is like whatever. - Yes, yes!

- It's like I said about birthdays with egos. Like, if a human sees an opportunity to be like, "I can make a ton of money very easy.". It's like we're hardwired, like American culture hardwires us to be like, "Yeah!". - NFTs? People are real quiet. NFT nation's so quiet. - What happened? - I don't know what's going on. - I forgot that even happened. - Like, you know what I mean? - It did disappear. - It kind of like... - Wow. But some people made some good money off of that. - No, they did, but not everybody.

- Yeah, not everybody, but the people that did, you know... - What was it? Buy the, buy the drop! - [Keith] Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Buy the dip. - Oh my god, I forgot about NFTs. - Last thing to just really seal how insane she is. "To everyone saying it's a pyramid scheme, it's not. "I am just cultivating my own career by selling items. "It's a really cool business model, "and I'm honored to be a part of it.". Oh. All right, moving on. - Yes. - "Am I the asshole for playing around. "with deepfake nude technology on my friends?".

- Ew! - Hold on. No, no, no! Read that again, Shayne. Read that again for me, 'cause I'm not, hold on, wait now. - "Am I the asshole for playing around. "with deepfake nude technology on my friends?". - [Jackie] That's so weird. - Ooh! - That takes the cake. for maybe the most immediately obvious title. in all of these. - Oh, that's so gross. Deepfakes in general, like skeeve me out so bad. - It's horror sci-fi novel (beep).

Like, it's... "Long story short, I'm interested in emerging tech, "deepfakes and AI in particular, "and I've been playing around. "with some AI image generators lately. "Mostly harmless stuff. "My day job is in programming, "so it's a particular fascination for me. "That said, I can be curious. "about the darker side of the web. "And since the deepfake scene has taken hold there, "I tried to create some deep fake nudes. "using pictures of celebrities, "models I pulled off the internet, that sort of thing. "And yes, I tested it on a couple pictures.

"of friends I pulled from social media. "Well, the wife didn't take too kindly to that.". You're married? (laughs). You're married. "Well, the wife didn't take too kindly to that. "when she came across some of the photos on my laptop. "She didn't believe me when I told her. "that I was more interested in the process than the result, "even when I showed her the other AI images. "I had been working on. "She called it a major breach of trust. "and is considering telling our friends about it, "the ones in the pictures. "It's been a couple days and she is barely speaking to me.". It's the colon and dash.

So it's the like, or colon slash, so it's the... - [Keith] Oh. - Oh my god. "She also saw a photo of her sister in there. "that was just the original from Facebook. "But still, I think that spooked her some more.". So he didn't make a deepfake of her, but she was on the conveyor belt on the way there. - Oh my god. - Babe, if you're making deepfakes and it's not me, then like what the (beep). (Shayne laughs).

- What if his wife, there's none of her. It's like, what? - "Babe, I wanted to respect your privacy.". - "I know I should have deleted the pictures. "so that it didn't seem like I was doing anything with them. "And I've apologized repeatedly, "but I feel like telling our friends isn't necessary. "because they won't understand. "and it could ruin our friendships.". It could. "She thinks that I need help. "and that our relationship depends on it, "which I feel like is a little harsh.". So I think to be clear. 'cause there's been a lot of dialogue about deepfakes,

and I think this is obvious that it is like, what's the exact terminology of like, you're not getting their consent. Like, it is a massive, it's a, I think it is effectively a crime. Like, what he's doing is not just, oh, it's unethical and you're an asshole. It's like, I think these are, this is criminal. This definitely requires consent. It's such an unbelievable breach.

in so many ways that is beyond belief. If he really was like, "Oh, I'm curious about the process and all this stuff,". he could have (beep) nudes of Jar Jar Binks or like some, but it still would've been weird. (everyone laughs). But like a fictional character or something. - I'm sorry! - If he wanted, but like really. - What about Jar Jar Binks is-. - I think already, I think in general this is already weird. that he's like, "Oh, I'm curious about the process of deepfake nudes.". It's like you're (beep) weird, man. - Yeah, there's something he's not telling us. - But the fact that he's like, "So I used my friends.".

It's like, what? - He's into this, this is a kink. - And also I don't like that he is like, "Oh, well before I was just using celebrities and models.". Like, those are people too that you are also taking. and making this stuff. This is really, really, really messed up. - Yeah. - I think this guy has a little bit of a kink obviously. that he needs to like get some help. And it's okay, we all need help in different areas. But this is weird. I wouldn't recommend, I wouldn't wanna make, see deepfakes of y'all. Sorry.

- Don't. Honestly don't put me in it. (everyone laughs). I don't wanna be in the conversation. - I think this is probably the tip of the iceberg, 'cause when he said like, "I can be curious about the darker side of the web,". I'm like, you're into weird (beep). - I was like Anakin immediately. That's like Anakin and Natalie Portman. - If this is the stuff that he has saved on his computer, what stuff is he doing and looking at? - Well, his wife is upset about it, and he doesn't understand that there's an issue.

That's the part that really gets me. That's sick. - That's the part. - That's divorce. That's divorce. - He should be embarrassed. He should be ashamed. - Get outta there. He should be more than embarrassed. He needs therapy. - The fact that he doesn't understand the issue. is honestly the issue. - [Shayne] It's terrifying. - It's like say okay, he has a kink potentially, yes. But like the fact that you don't understand. why your wife is upset that you even had the thought. to pull her sister's picture into the folder that said, "people I want to deepfake into sex.". Like, "people who I wanna see their fake nudes of.".

My sister? - Yeah. I'm also not technologically savvy, but I would say the process for other types of deepfakes. of like deepfaking your friend. into having like a suit of armor is the same process. as deepfaking them as nude. - True. - [Shayne] This is weird. - Very specific. - He's definitely doing this for weird reasons, and he's trying to come up with excuses for it. - [Jackie] Yeah. - So there's some comments here. "You're the asshole. "Does this whole thing not feel creepy to you? "There are so many other types of deepfakes. "you could have made if you were just interested.

"in the process.". Someone else said, "She should absolutely tell them. "You are making pornography using this technology. "and plastering your friend's faces all over it. "without their consent. "That's (beep) dude. "You're the asshole. "I can't even believe this has to be said.". Someone else said, "If my partner was doing this, "I would immediately be packing my bags. "Absolutely (beep) disgusting behavior. "and a complete violation of trust and privacy. "OP, you saw these women as sex objects. "for your entertainment. "They didn't consent to this. "You should be absolutely ashamed.

"I hope your wife tells them and leaves you.". Well, that guy is a monster. Let's move on. This is a 25-year-old woman who wrote this. "Am I the asshole for not telling my best friend, "a 22-year-old man, that I went on vacation with his dad?". - Oh! - Oh! - 40-year-old man. (Shayne laughs). - Turn up. Turn up. - Whoa! Okay. "I've known my best friend and his dad since 2018.". This was in 2022, so for a few years.

"My best friend and I met at college. "He was a freshman and I was a junior. "at the same university. "My first impression of his dad was. "that he was very nice and cool man. "Never spent any time or talked with him one-on-one though. "I also had a boyfriend at the time. "My best friend's dad is divorced. "In the summer of 2021, "I went through a really messy breakup. "Due to that, I started spending a lot of time. "at my best friend's house. "He lives with his dad. "Their place is huge, "so he really doesn't mind this arrangement at all. "My bestie was always there for me. "during this extremely difficult time.

"While at my best friend's house daily basically, "I started hanging out. "and chatting with his dad involuntarily. "I discovered that we actually had a bunch of things. "in common. "My best friend threw a New Year's Eve party at his house. "His dad was there as well. "One thing led to another, "and we ended up making out all night. "It was amazing." - What? - [Shayne] "Starting with the following day, "we began going on dates, texting, calling daily. "I didn't tell my best friend about any of this. "'cause I knew he'd react badly, "and I didn't know where this relationship was going either, "to be honest.

"His dad invited me on a two week vacation to Thailand, "and I accepted.". (Jackie laughs). - Man. - Not me like (groans). (laughs). Where's Brittany Broski? - Oh my god. - "He told my bestie that he was going on a solo trip, "and I told him that I was visiting family in another state. "The vacation itself was out of this world. "Both of us had an incredible time together. "My best friend found out about our lie. "after he randomly met my mom, "and she told him that I was abroad with a guy. "When we got back, he went berserk.

"He told us that we're absolute traitors. "and that he feels extremely betrayed. "I told him that I didn't tell him. "because I was afraid of his reaction. "and that I didn't know how to do that either. "He said that he might have been a little bit pissed. "at first but he would've come around eventually. "if we would've been honest. "We both apologized to him, but he rejected our apology, "moved out of his dad's place, "and now he's ghosting both of us. "I personally think that he went a bit overboard with this. "I mean, at the end of the day, "me and his dad are consenting adults.

"and we haven't even been dating for that long. "But I get where he's coming from too.". - This is the plot of "The Kissing Booth.". - Really? - Basically. (crew laughs). - Oh. I need to watch that movie. - No. You don't. (everyone laughs). You really don't. - I would just really hate. to have an inconsiderate friend like that. - So they became friends, then she started hanging out at his place a bunch.

- At a party. - And then at a party made out with his dad, and then they started dating. - Okay, so at the party, was this like a college party? - No, it was a New Year's party. - Okay, so it's a whole bunch of a people. - A New Year's Eve party at his house. Her friend's New Year's Eve party. Obviously his dad was there, it was at his house, and then she started making out with his dad at that party. - Or did he start making out with-. - They both began to make out together. Let's make sure we're keeping it. They both made out consensually together.

- They met in the middle. - Yes, with their faces. - I think the weird, I always think whenever I hear these types of stories, the one who I'm always shocked about is the parent. I'm just like, I can't imagine being a parent. and like one of your friends, like who's right around your child's age. And you're gonna start-. - It's messy. - I'm just like, that's, I would just think that's weird. - It is weird. - And it's not, the age gap is one thing,

but if the dad was dating some other 25-year-old, that's like, okay, that's one thing. But it's still, I don't know, but like the fact that this is your son's best friend. That's so messy. And you as the dad know you're. probably (beep) up his friendship by doing that. - That's why they kept it a secret. - Yeah, I think like if, look, 'cause not even, this I have not had. I'm being hypothetical. I have not had this scenario. (crew laughs). I just put that out there. Have I dated a 40-yeah-old? Yes, I have, but (laughs).

- Really? - Yes! - Oh, cool. - The ceiling is high. So (laughs). Okay, like they, okay, okay. Let's take the ages out of it, right? Let's just say that it's, okay, your best friend's best friend or something. And like, okay, you're dating. It's like, okay, you made out at a party or whatever. You go on a couple dates. Okay, whatever. You book a two week trip to Thailand. Before you get on the plane, that's when the conversation.

Like, if you are about to go abroad for two weeks, you're about to spend money, y'all like want to have this, like that's when it should have happened. Like, okay, making out with whatever. Like, not whatever, but like forgivable, a couple dates forgivable. Like, is this a thing? Is it not? Is it just a fluke? Whatever. The fact that you were trying to figure out. if this is gonna be a thing, like that's when I feel like the son. should have got brought in. And the dad should have the conversation.

The best friend should've had a conversation. I don't know who needs to go first, but... - Separate conversations. - Separate. - If you're booking a two week trip to Thailand, you're in a relationship fully. And you still haven't told your son. And to keep that kind of secret. when it's like you're gonna have to tell him eventually, and the longer you go, the more disrespectful it is. And it's that you both don't view him as being important. - And you both come back with a tan? - Right. - [Shayne] Yeah. - Right, I feel like it's definitely a sense of betrayal. It's definitely a sense of betrayal.

And it's like that's gonna be, it's gonna take a while for them to get over it for sure. - Yeah, and, you know, what's really crazy is just like, "I personally think that he went a bit overboard with this,". and it's like, come on. I totally understand. - I get it, 1,000%. - If she was coming from a place of like, "I understand that this is (beep) up. "Like we have feelings for each other. "and this happened and I'm sorry and I fucked up,". it's like okay. But to minimize it is ridiculous. - Exactly, I agree. - They're both the assholes. - The comments are definitely like, you're the asshole.

"Of course you're the asshole. "You're sleeping with his dad behind his back. "and taking secret trips abroad. "This is not even a lie by omission. "And the way you phrase the title. "is intentionally misleading. "You straight up lied. "When we got back, he went berserk. "He told us that we're absolute traitors. "and that he feels extremely betrayed. "He's right, and you are all of those things. "You no longer have the right to call him your friend. "or at best you're the evil stepmother.". - Ooh! (Keith laughs). - "This relationship cannot be salvaged. "I wish you a happy honeymoon.

"and to stay the hell away from your so-called friend. "for the foreseeable future.". "A massive you're the asshole. "Question, if your friend started (beep) your mom, "how would you feel?". - Oh! - Oh wow! Flipped it and reversed it. - Yeah. - "You're the asshole. "You knew it the whole time too. "That's why you didn't tell him.". - Exactly. It's that secret. - [Jackie] That's the shame. - I can't, look, I've read these types of stories on Reddit before, like, it's shocking. It's not common, but it's shocking that it happens.

I can't imagine being betrayed by a family member. and a friend at the same exact time. - That's a lot to take. - And they like went in together and had a secret. I just, that's gotta be... Jackie, I feel like you kind of said this earlier, but like is there a different way they could have gone. about this and like, obviously earlier. - Yeah, like if it's like, "Hey, we're both trying to (beep) around,". like, but are you trying to have a relationship? Like, what is it, like right? And getting that out early because like, I don't know.

The secret, not all secrets mean there's shame, but you're hiding something, right? Like, you know that you're doing something wrong. Like, secret relationships are like, oh, there's like a sexiness about 'em, right? Like, that's how they're portrayed. But it's like, what are you hiding? Why are you hiding it? Like, after you made out with his dad, why didn't you tell him? Why? Because you knew it was (beep) up. Like, it was weird. Back to the actual question you asked, but like, I think if...

Probably after they made out, I would mention it, and I'd be like, that's weird. Like, "Hey, how would you feel. 'if I went on a date with your dad? "How would you feel?". He's like, "No.". - [Keith] Right, then you got your answer. - But she didn't want that. - No. - And the dad probably didn't want that. - Hold on, guys, let's think about this. Maybe they actually really like each other. - They could though. - That's totally fine. - What if that's the, you know what I mean? Like, let's put that out there.

They could actually fall in love, and she could be his step-mom. - But then they need to have that conversation. And even if it's, even if he says no, and she goes, "Well, I'm gonna do it. "I guess we're not friends anymore.". Like, you know, it's like, then we're-. - I guess we're not friends. - But like for real, it's like at least there's respect there. 'Cause like-. - "Well, if you're gonna live under my house, "you gotta follow my rules.". - "I am your mother!". - "Wash the dishes!". - Yeah, my god. Well, what a ride.

- Yo, I am exhausted. I feel like I've listened to a lot of people's problems. that are not my own, and I have my own. And it's a lot. - I'm triggered. (everyone laughs). - Well, thank you guys for joining me. - Thank you. - That was fun. - It was great. Feel like I went on a rollercoaster. - Will you want to come back? - Yeah, I would come back. I would. Yeah, I'll come back and talk some stuff. - Keith, are there certain types of stories. that you would want to hear? Like, what realms of messy and petty and stuff do you like?

- Ooh, I wanna hear some Black (beep). Just some straight up Black (beep). I love it, some good, yes. I'm sorry. - I will say, sometimes I hear these and I'm like, it's a white man. - Yeah, right, right. (everyone laughs). - Like, no shade. - "I disassembled his door.". - That's right. - Like, no shade, all shade. I'm like, this is a white man. (laughs). - Well, thank you both for being here. This was fun? - Yeah, it was fun. - It was fun reading about absolute horrible people. And thank you all for watching as always.

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