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- Thanks to DoorDash for sponsoring this episode. DoorDash makes showing up for the people you love easy. Needed that. Delivered. DoorDash, order now. Hello, and welcome to "Smosh Reads Reddit Stories.". I'm Shane, and today's theme is weddings, specifically wedding dilemmas. And I'm joined by two dilemmas, Amanda and Angela. - I'll beat you up, buddy. (Angela laughing). You're the dilemma, honey. - The only dilemma I see is a man. in boots. - Yeah, and the only dilemma. I see is the man in my sheets.

and a freak on the streets. - The only dilemma I see. is the man I got to listen to in front of me. Dilemma is, I don't want to. - Yeah, dilemma is my ball and chain. (Angela laughing) Dilemma is, he's not sexy anymore. He put on the lbs over the years. (everybody laughing). He said he's getting into ice cream. Oh, that's my dilemma. - What Tennessee Williams play. are we stuck in right now? (production laughing). - Well, you know, Mama always said, blank. - That's true. - Boys be boys,

and they're getting on the lbs. (Shane laughing) - Well, Mama always said, "Get your pancakes out.". And I said, "Yeah.". - (laughing) Yeah, Mama. (production laughing). - All right. - Yeah, Mama. Anyways. - Hello. - Hey. - How's it going? - You know, I'm feeling pink. - Uh-huh, yeah. - I'm feeling-. - Got some flowers here. - I'm feeling, I'm so excited to do this with you guys, 'cause I know both of you are married. I'm not married, but I just went through. what I want to call the worst summer of my life,

where I had nine weddings. - You went to nine weddings. in one summer? - Not this summer. - This year. - It was spring-summer. It was wedding season. - But sorry, nine weddings in one year. Mind you, I've probably gone. to maybe less than five weddings. in my adult life. - Okay. - Whoa. - I think it actually. started in the fall. - Maybe more than that. - I think it started in the fall, the nine. - That is too much. - But nine. in the span of 12 months. - Is and has been destructive. to every part of it. - Do you have any money left? (production laughing). - No, that's why I'm chained to the set.

(production laughing) - How many. were you a bridesmaid in? - I was a bridesmaid in two. - Okay. - That's a lot. That's a lot, Two? - Yeah, and I don't have married friends. - Two. - And all of a sudden, they all just went, "Let's just do it this year.". - In all of the weddings you both have been to, have there been any like standout like awkward moments. or like, "Oh, this was the thing that went wrong?". - Oh, I have so many. - 'Cause I feel like. every wedding has something. go slightly wrong. - Definitely, definitely. - So many. - And obviously you probably can't repeat it.

'cause your friends might see this or whatever, but. - There's like some jealousy, some like, yeah. (laughing) - Ooh. Oh. (production laughing). Whoa, okay. - I've definitely witnessed that. - Ooh. - I went to a wedding recently. where they did a crazy thing. Shout out to an old "Reddit Stories" episode. with you two, "The B Room.". - (gasping) Yes. "B Room.". - Aw, "The B Room" is so funny. - It's so funny. - I went to a wedding recently. that they had a camera set up. in another room- - No. (gasping). - and that was just rolling. And it was just in a separate room and they lit it.

And it was like catnip for me. I kept bringing people in there. and doing like interviews. - That is so catnip for you. So they were just having that video to hold onto? - They were like, "If you guys want to like. go do a shout out, we're going to have this like video.". - You're a like, "A shout out? You mean a television show. with Angela?" - 50 years later, they're going to pull it up. and just be like, "Oh, so it's the Angela show.". (Shane laughing) - No, it is me, and then an open bar with that. - Oh. - Oh, that's awesome. - I brought all my friends. and I made everyone do a group self-tape. (everybody laughing). - No. - I was like, "We all have to slate.".

- Oh my God. - That's awesome. - That's another thing too, open bar. Do you have open bar or do you not? And some people are like, "No open bar.". And some people are like, "Oh my God, we only have one hour for drinks," or whatever. It's crazy. - I know. I mean, the only ones I've been to have been open bar, but I have such a fear of like, I don't want to be sloppy at a wedding. Like I am very like minimal about drinking. at weddings. - Oh boy. - Which is hard 'cause everybody's drinking, so you kind of like feel that like, "Oh, it's so fun and nice.". But it's like I live in fear.

of being one of the like embarrassing people. at a wedding, 'cause I want to be invisible at a wedding. to a degree. - Yeah, dry weddings, scary shit goes down. in those too. - Oh, I'm sure. it gets real crazy. - I've never been to a dry wedding in my life. - Don't. (production laughing). - I could see a dry wedding being okay, but you got to like kind of find. what's the like thing. - No, because. if you're like us, you're going to sneak it in. (laughing). - Of course you are. - My mom and I went to. a nearby Maggiano's. - Of course you're going to. sneak it in.

Of course you are. - The only thing nearby. was a Maggiano's. - And you guys chugged glasses of wine. - And then we weren't okay. (production laughing). - I could do a dry wedding-. - Honestly, that would be me. I don't know if I could do it. - That's what I'm saying, it's not good. - If I heard that I was going to a dry wedding, if I knew that it was going to be like an outside venue, I'd be okay for some reason. Outside, I'm like, "Oh, I'm chilling. I'm outside, this is nice. I'm high on nature.". (production laughing) But if I'm inside anywhere. and it's like it's dry, so I'm like, "Oh, I'm just stuck in here with people. Social interactions all night. with people I don't know." - And it's like, "September.". And I'm like, and I can't have a drink,

I'm, "I got to get out of here.". - You're like, "Why would I dance?". - I can't dance if... I mean, I can barely dance even, I need drinks to dance, but. - We should get Shane so (beeping) up. and go to a huge club, and just you and I, and watch Shane. (Angela laughing) But we're not with him. (laughing) We sit on stools. and we put him out in the center. - Do we bring our own stools? - And then I get a call from Courtney. And then she's like, "Where are you?". And I'm like, "I actually don't know. (laughing). I have no idea.". And she's like, "Are you at a club?". I'm like, "I don't know.".

- Courtney can come. But she cannot interact with you. (everybody laughing). - She cannot help me. - And the three of us just have our team. - I'm like one of those baby sea turtles. where they're like, "You can't help it. It's got to get to the ocean on its own.". And they're like. (laughing). - Don't touch it. Don't touch it. - Don't touch it. - There are seagull coming. It's like, "You got to let him just, he's got to make it himself." - You got to let him. He's got to do it. - All right, this first story comes from Wedding Shaming, and it was posted in August of this year, which is literally like three days. - What? The pancake's out of the pan. Just came out of the pan. (production laughing).

- Pancakes are in a pan? - Fresh. Fresh out of the... - Yeah, they are. - Yeah. A griddle, you can do a griddle. - I'm not well. - You ever had baked pancakes? No, I'm just kidding. - Microwave. - [Production] Dutch baby. - Oh. - Yeah, hello, Dutch baby's so good. - Okay. - Oh my God. - I got a new thing to try. - He loves pancakes. Remember when we had pancakes in Montreal? - He loves them. - Wait, those were so good. What were they made out of, cottage cheese? - I had cottage cheese pancakes in Montreal. - They were so good. - They were so good. - We ate pancakes. every day on the Reddit Tour. Yep. - They actually did. - No, just Shane did. - And that's something. you make up in fan fiction, but it's true. But it's true. (production laughing).

- No, I know, it's true. (Angela laughing). - This comes from Wedding Shaming, posted in August 2026. "Possibly considered malicious, definitely considered tacky wedding guests. I have no idea why this just occurred to me now. as I got married 19 years ago. We opened our gifts after getting back from our honeymoon. It was just close local family there with us. for the gift opening. As we were opening one of the gifts, we knew immediately that whatever it was. most certainly was broken. Not just a little broke, but completely shattered.

into little tiny pieces.". - Ooh. - "It was a box. of glass dinner plates. They were on our registry at Target. I remember at the time being very surprised. at just how broken it all was. Looking back, there was no way. it could've been purchased at the store like it was. These were heavier duty, more casual dining plates, not fine china, but they would've been packaged well in the box. Picking up a box off the shelf. with this level of broke, you would know it couldn't be used or purchased. It literally seemed like each plate was removed. and smashed with a hammer or something.

and then placed back in the box. Separate observance, but also connected. We got the raw footage of our wedding video. a month or so after our wedding. We couldn't afford the big bucks. of having it beautifully edited to music and things, so we just paid the lower cost. of having the basic raw footage. We were watching it back and enjoyed seeing details. we missed on our special day. as it was a very busy and chaotic, happy time. We were looking at our reception footage. and noticed a married couple from our church. enter the reception room. with two people we had never seen before in our life.

We didn't have formal assigned seating at our reception, just reserved tables up front. for our wedding party and close family. The sister of this married couple. was a part of my bridal party, so I called her to ask about it. Side note, she ended up being my frenemy.". Ooh. - Ooh. - "Camera mics on quality video pick up a lot. We got to hear and watch her and her mother. trash talking me at my own wedding. in that raw footage we purchased. It was my pastor's wife. and her daughters doing all the mean, tacky things.

Anywho, apparently it was their friends. or acquaintances from work. We didn't do table-to-table greetings. like some do at receptions. It was wall-to-wall tables of 250 seated guests. and weaving in between the seating. would have been a bit challenging. in my wedding dress. So we completely missed the fact. that strangers were sitting in our reception.". - Aw. - Ooh. - "We opted to do a formal receiving line. at the church before the reception. because we had a few guests. that could only make the wedding ceremony. We wanted to make sure we could have a chance. to see everyone, hug them, and say hello then.

This young married couple. opted not to do the receiving line. I checked the church video camera footage. and didn't see the strangers. we had never met at the church. Apparently they met up and just came on in. for a free meal at our wedding reception. by the verbal invitation. of the couple that was actually invited. The couple that brought the uninvited strangers. to our reception. was the same couple. that gifted us the smashed-up dinner plates. It didn't have a gift receipt, but I brought it back to Target anyway. hoping for the best.

The ladies in the returns department. took the box from me, and one of the ladies said, "Oh my God, what the hell?". (Amanda and Angela laughing). "All these years later, it now occurred to me. that this was quite possibly done intentionally. My brain isn't wired to think the immediate worst, but thinking back, the pastor's daughters were not always kind to me. behind my back. I should've clued in. Is intentionally destroying a wedding gift. and giving it that way. a thing for some people. or some kind of mean message? Who knows? Thanks for letting me ramble. And if you are currently engaged.

in planning your wedding, make sure everyone is mic'd up. and you take the time to listen. to all the chatter in the raw footage afterwards. You might learn a few things you didn't know before.". - Wait, I have a couple questions. This wedding didn't happen this year? - This happened 19 years ago. - It's a cold case. - It's a cold case. - I was going to say, it's a cold case. - So this is a wedding from 2005. - It's a cold case. - They probably had to get. a VHS converter. - It's a VHS. - Wait, no. - It doesn't matter. Were people mic'd up?

- This is a crime scene. - Was there a body? (production laughing) - Probably. - No, but were people mics up? - No, it wasn't that they were mic'd up. (production laughing) They weren't mic'd up. It's that the camera. from way back in 2007- - I can't see him. - picked up audio from people that were around. So she got to hear people talking shit. - 'Cause it was good audio. (Amanda gasping). - Well, it was just a camera. that had like some sort of shotgun mic on it. - There was just a guy holding a boom. the whole night. (production laughing). He's like.

- "Just picking stuff up." - It's like, "Hey, Mark, are you thirsty? Do you want a glass of champagne?". - "I'm good." - "No, I'm good.". (Angela laughing) (Amanda panting). - Or- - "I'm good.". - there's one table that Scott is standing above. and it's all the bitches. (production and Angela laughing). And the bride's like, "I just want to hear. what they had to say.". (Shane laughing) - And they're like, "What a little slut. in that dress." (Angela laughing). And Matt's just like. (panting). (Shane and production laughing). - What? - 'Cause he's tired. He's holding the (beeping) mic for hours. (production laughing). - This is my scenario. - No, it makes sense.

This is a mystery to me. - It's pretty fascinating. That's a crazy correlation. - Why? - Why? - I love that 19 years later, this bride is just asleep in bed and just goes. - [Amanda] (gasping) The plates were on purpose. - "The plates," this is truly "True Detective" Season 1, where it's like 20 years after. and they're like, "Wait, hold on." - Oh my God. "This all piecing together." - I would read this book, "The Pastor's Wife.". - I would read this in a second, or like even just like somebody going, "Rewind that.". Everyone's like, "What?". - Everyone's like, "What happened?". - In the book version,

it would be that someone tragically passed away. by accident at the wedding, but then 20 years later, she's piecing it all together. and she's like, "Oh my God, I think they were murdered.". - And it all has to do with the plates. - It has to do with the plates. - Wait, wait, what happened with the murder? What? - I'm saying, in the book version of this, someone would've died. - There'd be a murder. - Well, there's probably a body floating nearby. - Probably, 250 people, one of them could've died and nobody knew. But wait, why did this... Okay, so I understand that the pastor's wife. or his daughter didn't like OP. - The pastor's daughters were talking shit to her,

but it was pastor's wife- - Then why bring. a random couple? - 'Cause they just brought in a random couple. - Also, what did they do. to the plates? - 'Cause if they didn't like. the bride, then they had a random couple. This is a wedding with 250 people. - That is a lot of people, yeah. - So they're probably just like, "Oh, yeah, come to this wedding.". Like they have no respect for the bride and groom. - That's what it is. - What did they do. with the plates though? - So they're just like, "Yeah, come on, hang out with us.". - Like did they smash the plates. and then wrap them up? Like that they (beeping) up- - Or they just like took. a sledgehammer to the box or something. - But they paid for it. - I know. - They're dumb. - Or maybe that's an accident.

I don't know. - Then that's a sin. - When you said OP went back to the tape, I thought you were going to be like, "We had these shattered plates, and then we went back to our wedding table, we saw all these little boys.". "Ah." - Boom. That's what I though she was going to say. "We saw these little gremlins. stomping on them." - I thought the couple. that they brought in for free. was just like pointing to the gift, they're like, "What's your gift?". - And smash it? - "Let's smash it outside. and get drunk." (laughing) (Angela laughing). - And I also love her bringing it back to Target. They're like, "Holy shit.". (production laughing) - "What happened to you? Target would never send plates like this.

The Target brand, we keep it durably wrapped.". - "Durably wrapped. (laughing). You send that bullshit over to Walmart.". - "We keep this durably wrapped.". - This episode of "Reddit Stories" is sponsored by DoorDash. DoorDash makes showing up for the people you love easy. Needed that. Delivered. DoorDash, order now. I know it's still summer, but I'm already counting down the days. until the holiday season. for one big reason. My holiday care packages from DoorDash.

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We used it to buy a different set of plates. They were so nice and understanding.". Okay, so that at least worked out. I could believe, some people are just assholes. Like they're just absolute assholes. And the fact that they ended up becoming frenemies later on. has me believing this person just hated her all along, and they just kind of came up to the surface eventually. - This is why big weddings are dangerous, man, because you don't know who's there. Why have a big party. when you can't even talk to all of them? - I know, I always feel that way about my birthday. I'm like, "I don't want people to hang out.

without me there.". - Right. - Whoa. - I'm in the corner, you know what I mean? - Oh. - Like there's so many people. and you're like, "Oh, I want to be in that convo. And that one, and that one, and that one.". - This is why, honestly, I've been doing big birthdays forever, and I'm like, "I think I'm done,". because I would rather have. like little celebrations with people. But I think birthdays are overrated. I think I'm done forever. - 250 people is frankly insane to me. Unless both families are so big. where it's like, "No, we have to.". - Yeah, but think about those- - But it's not just...

- There are a lot of people. - Think about those weddings. that have like 500 people. and they cut the cake with a sword. Have you seen those? - Whoa. - My parents had. a 500-people wedding. - Really? - And did they cut the cake. with a sword? - No. - What did they cut the-. - 'Cause how do you have enough cake for 500 people? - Yeah, I think you do cookies. - And you need a sword. (production laughing). - I think you do cookies. - I think you do cookies. (laughing). - I think you do cookies. - I think once you hit 400, you-. - You're kind of leaning into your, "Hey, you guys fringe with the bride?". (everybody laughing). You're leaning into my favorite character. you've ever done in my life.

- I think you do cookies. - I think you do cookies. Is that the bride? You guys drinking chardonnay? - Jesus. - Are you guys here for a bachelorette or? (everybody laughing). - Someone else said, "It's suspicious, but I also think it's weird. to spend all the money on a gift, then destroy it. Like they still paid for it. They could've just not got you anything. and saved the trouble.". Someone said, "My mother-in-law forced us. to invite a lady neither of us had ever met. because she had gotten mad at not being invited. to his older sister's wedding.". - Oh my God. - "She brings us.

a set of used Christmas candles as our gift. from like the '90s. The wedding was 2014. They went into the trash immediately.". (Amanda laughing). - I'm like, either bring a stranger or do a bad gift. Don't do both. - Yeah, you got to choose one or the other. Another comment, someone said, ". I was waiting for the video of the random couple. jumping up and down on the wedding gift.". (Angela laughing) - Yeah. - And lastly, someone said, "What kind of wackos. invite other people. to someone else's wedding reception? That kind of entitlement is just scary.". OP said, "We were very surprised ourselves. I had known that couple for a long time. It seemed very out of character.".

I think wedding crashing. is just really cringey and weird to me. I don't understand it. - I do not want. to wedding crash. - I don't understand why. people would want to- - Don't ask me to do it. - Okay, we won't. - How fun does it sound though? (production laughing). - Okay, I would do it with you (beeping). - Like when I watch... (production laughing). - Really changed your tone fast there. - Well, here's the thing, I'm going to say, it's mean to do this, it's mean, right? But then let's just like, for a side note, be like, did any part of you watch that movie. and go, "I'd love to try it?". - Yeah.

- Not for the like (beeping) bitches. - (laughing) You mean for the part. when they have sex with so many different women? Do you remember re-watching "Wedding Crashers". and go, "I don't remember this part. where they throw women on them?" (laughing). And it's literally like, "Yeah.". - Wait, honestly, are we giving those guys? - Yeah, (laughing) yeah. (production laughing). And it's just women going like this, "Whoo.". - Which one of you is Owen Wilson? Which one of you is Vince Vaughn? - I'm obviously Vince Vaughn with tired eyes. and I'm 7'5".

(Angela and production laughing). Who's just like eating all the snacks. - We could do that. - You are so Owen Wilson. Are you joking? - Oh my God. - It's you, it's me. (gasping). - But it does sound fun to kind of like just be like, "No one notices us.". That part sounds fun for a second. Or like, have you ever been at a hotel. where you see the wedding. and you're like, "All I want to do is just walk by, grab a piece of cake and go upstairs?". - Wait, I did wedding crash once. And it was quick. - Okay, so this completely. has come back around. (production laughing).

(laughing) Really? Really? - It was so quick. - And you got a glass. of champagne at a hotel? - It was so quick. It was at a hotel. It was my sister's wedding. My sister's wedding. - Wait, you- - She got married. on the beach. - Sorry, your wedding crashing your own sister's wedding? - No, no, there were two weddings. - Oh. - Oh, yeah. I'm very cool. - So you park hoppered weddings. - So- - (laughing) Park hoppered. You park hoppered. - I parkoured. - You went from California and Ventura. - James didn't laugh hard enough at that joke. That should've gotten him. - That was a Disney adult joke.

- He's busy. - He booed you. - So anyways, my sister's wedding was in one location, but it's all at the hotel. And then me and my older sister, this other wedding had like a full photo booth. with all these like fun things. (Angela laughing) And my sister was like, "Do you want to go to the other wedding. and take some photos?". And I was like, "Let's do it.". So we went to the other wedding. and she was like, (gasping) "Oh my God, the photo booth.". And I was like, "So the louder you are, the worse it is." (laughing). So we grabbed all the things. and we took photos in the photo booth. - And you left. - And we left. - Okay, that's not as bad.

You didn't take their resources, you didn't like- - We did take their resources. - That the most millennial way-. - You didn't take them away. Did you take it away. or you just took photos? - I didn't move. a whole photo booth. - Yeah, you took some photos-. - Could you imagine? We were like, "Sorry.". - "We're going to borrow it." - So you went. and took a photo out of the photo booth and then? - Yeah. - I have always- - I think it could be worse. You didn't take any cake. - No, no, no. No, I didn't. That was entry level. - "But I had a few drinks.". - That was entry level. (Shane laughing). I've got very close. when I'm at a hotel. and you see the wedding and you're like, "I could just kind of walk in there.".

- We would get caught. - Our next story comes from Relationship Advice, and it was posted in June of this year. This is a 26-year-old woman. She writes, "My childhood best friend, a 26-year-old woman, did not ask me to be a bridesmaid in her wedding. I am heartbroken. Where do I go from here?". - Hmm. - This sucks. - "My childhood best friend is getting married. this year in November. I'll call her Katie, fake name. We've been best friends since we were three years old. and we were inseparable. Always at each other's houses, always doing everything together.

She was my ride or die. Typical life stuff like going to different colleges. decreased our communication. and ability to spend time together, but we would always make it a point. to spend breaks together in some capacity. As we got older and added jobs to the mix, time became tighter. and texting/calling would be less frequent. Katie met her fiance, Ben, also a fake name, who's 30, shortly after graduating college, and then it became even harder to talk to her. He's fine. I think he's a little boring, but he's nice and treats her well. I'm not saying I'm completely innocent here.

Maybe I could've tried harder to reach out more, but she just wouldn't reply. for a few days at a time, something that isn't out of the norm. And then I wouldn't reply immediately. and the cycle continued. Last year over the summer, Ben proposed. Katie and I hadn't seen each other in a year at that point. as she was working two jobs. and I was in grad school while working as well. She sent the picture of him proposing. in a group chat with me and a few other friends, which I was a little upset about. Felt like she would FaceTime me or at least call me. I asked her out to lunch and we caught up. and spoke about her engagement and wedding planning.

She told me the date was for this November. and they were looking into venues and planning, et cetera. I put the date in my calendar, obviously, and told her to let me know. if she needed help planning, wink, wink, and her response hinted at me being part of the wedding. Two months later, Katie posts on Facebook. that she found her dress, posting a picture of her, her mom, her future mother-in-law, her older sister, and Ben's sister at a wedding boutique, similar to her getting engaged. I felt a little upset, but rationalized that she just wanted family there. I still haven't heard anything about being a bridesmaid.

This next part isn't really relevant information. about the wedding, but gives some more context. Time continues and it's now December 2025, and I find out through Ben's Instagram story. that they bought a house. I had no idea they were even looking, and then Katie didn't like tell me herself. I texted her, 'Oh my God, you and Ben bought a house? That's so exciting, congrats. Where's it at?'. At this point, I was about to be on winter break from school. and asked if on one of my days off of work. I could come over and help her unpack or just hang out,

which she agreed, and we set a date. The evening before, I texted her, 'Hey, am I still good to come over tomorrow? What time?'. No response. I wake up at 10:00 the day of and ask, 'Hey, when can I come over?'. She finally replies an hour later. and says, 'Hey, I'm so sorry. I forgot. Ben and I are going to his family member's event in town. that's two hours away. Can I let you know when we get home this afternoon? You can come over then.'. I say, 'Sure,' because what else can I say? 3:00 p.m. rolls along, nothing. 4:00 p.m., I text her asking for an update. 4:30, she says they're almost home.

I ask, 'How long?'. No reply. It's a 45-minute drive to their new place. 5:15, I ask if they're home yet. Finally texts me at 6:00 p.m. that they're home if I want to come over. I had given up at that point. and said we should just reschedule. In January, Katie and Ben had a housewarming party, and so me and my boyfriend, who's 32, of two years went. I recognized a couple people from our high school, but it was mostly his/her coworkers, extended family, et cetera. Katie is introducing me to people, 'Hey, this is OP, she's my best friend,'.

and things felt pretty good, but I still was not asked to be a bridesmaid. The next week, I got a save-the-date in the mail. On it is a QR code for their wedding website. One of the menu options is introducing the wedding party, and my heart dropped. I click on it and realize that I was never going to be asked. to be a bridesmaid. She has eight bridesmaids, including her maid of honor, her sister. Eight bridesmaids, eight. Two of them are people from our neighborhood. that I had no idea they were that close of friends.

The rest are Ben's sisters and cousins. I feel betrayed. I feel so incredibly hurt. I couldn't stop crying the rest of the day. I called my mom seeking reassurance. that I'm not overreacting, but she basically said that I needed to get over it, that I should be happy she found people in her life. that she's close to.". (Angela scoffing) "I just thought. I was one of those people. My boyfriend said to me, in the time he's known me, Katie has not been a good friend in his perspective. Not to get into too much detail, but he listed examples, such as being two hours late. to my 25th birthday dinner,

not confirming if she could make it. to an event I invited her to a month before. until two days before said event, and that recent instance. of her forgetting about the family thing. on the day we were supposed to hang out. I haven't reached out to her since. I doubt if I confront her. she will even respond. I don't know if I can go to the wedding. I always imagine standing by her side at the altar. I can't imagine sitting and watching from the pews. I don't know what to do. I feel like I'll regret not going, but I don't know if I'll be able. to keep my composure either.

I'm not sure which is worse, that she deliberately didn't ask me. or that she forgot to. I feel that I have the right to be upset, but my mom says otherwise, and I've always trusted her advice in the past, that I need to move on. and just go to the wedding. because I'll regret it otherwise. Part of me says Katie has the right. to make her choices of bridesmaids. and that I shouldn't be this upset. about not being one. I also feel embarrassed. and that I'm the butt of a joke. I wasn't aware of. What do I even do now? If you stuck with the reading this far, thank you. I'm open to any advice and feedback.".

- Whoa. - Okay. This is a really human experience. - Yes. - Yes. - I feel like the one thing that I'm reading. is she's like, people are saying like. she doesn't have the right to be upset. She is upset, right? You're like, whether you have the right to or not, like you're upset. Your response is you're upset. - They've been friends since they were, what, three years old? - Said best friends and-. - Of course she has the right to be upset. - I feel like this happens to a lot of people in like, 'cause they're 26, right? This is such a mid-20s like experience.

of like realizing like you're living in different realities, like your relationships are different. People really experience this. a lot in romantic relationships, right, when a breakup catches you off guard. But friendships, I think, are harder-. - They're definitely harder. - because you can go a year. without seeing each other, but you're still like, "But we're best friends.". - Yeah, and also like she clearly had like a dream scenario. in her head of like, "We've been friends for this long. This is what's going to happen. I'm going to be at her wedding. And it's like, I'm going to be a bridesmaid.".

But what the boyfriend is kind of saying to her. is like, "You guys haven't.". That's the tough thing of childhood friends, we've talked about this before, is like things shift when you get older. Like you have the image in their head. of your friendship years ago, but you're not really taking into account, what does the friendship look like right now? And clearly she wasn't being that great of a friend. And so, I mean, she doesn't consider her a priority.

- And what's so hard about the 20s too. is like, it's not like when we grew up. where it was like you have a clear like grades. and like, "Oh, I'm not middle school anymore, I'm in high school,". or it's like, our 20s, things go for different people at different times. Some people will find their life partner. and kind of cocoon up at one age, and some people are like, "Oh, nothing's changed. I'm 26, it's the same since I was 19.". But then some people get jobs faster than others. And it's the Wild, Wild West. And you can like literally grow up with somebody.

and have the exact same like upbringing, but then your 20s, it's like, "Oh, I didn't really start living my life. 'til I was 30 because of blank, blank, blank.". Like it's a mess, especially for female friendships. when we have this weird way of being like, "We're doing everything together.". So then when one person gets married before the other, you feel like somebody cheated on somebody, and you're like, "No, we're just best friends. We're just here to support each other.". And this is like such a heartbreak. I feel for OP so deeply. And the worst thing to do in this situation.

is to call your mom, 'cause she's going to say that. (Shane laughing) - She's going to go, no, literally- - 'Cause your mom. is going to (beeping) you up. - Your mom's going to go, "Well, honey, I don't know.". - Your mom's not the right person for advice. (Angela laughing) She goes, "And honestly, I though you girls were lesbians when you were kids.". (Shane laughing) "Honestly, if we're being honest.". - Some moms are good at this. But when you are feeling this way, I don't know. - Your mom is not your first call. - I'm glad OP has a boyfriend that's like, "Hey, I wasn't around to grandfather this person in. But based off of when I met them, the behaviors aren't the greatest.". - The boyfriend is there to be like,

"Hey, you're biased from your whole life of being. friends with this person." - That's what I'm saying. "But in the two years that I've experienced, she's not your friend.". - You can get really blinded. - "Or she's just. an acquaintance to you.". - And that's the best place to seek advice. is someone who's in your present, rather than your mom, who's just going to be like, "Well, we grow up.". - That's why I think childhood friendships. are really, really tough, because you just, the boundaries aren't created, and therefore you've gone years without boundaries, obviously because you're kids, and then these things occur. where one person has a specific view.

on how the friendship should go. And it sounds like this person, her life is moving fast, the one who's getting married. They got a house, she has other things going on. I don't know if she's doing this maliciously. I don't think she is. - That's just childhood friendships. Now add on this weird (beeping) thing we do. with bridesmaids, which is then be like... - Status. - It's already weird. to grow apart. or feel like you're still there and one person's going away. And then there's like this, "Here is my MySpace top eight.".

(production laughing) "Like here are my girls.". And when you're not included in that, aw. - This is why I don't like bridesmaids. For me, I was like, "My bridesmaids are just my sisters,". because I do not want to pick and choose friends. because it really like ranks. your friends. - It is a ranking. type of situation. - And I hate it. And for what? Like literally bridesmaids, like for what? They're like helping you and-. - Like why rank them? - What's tough is like, they're friends, they've been lifelong friends, and this happens, I think this is very common.

with like childhood friends. where you talk like once a year sometimes. Like depending on where you are in life, like you get in touch every now and then, but you're like, you're still there. But she's like, "Oh, like two friends of hers. from their neighborhood. Two of them are people from our neighborhood. that I had no idea they were that close of friends.". And it's like, but what's also the unfortunate reality here. is it's like, hey, yeah, you guys are living two completely different lives. You don't know what her life is. So clearly these are strangers to you.

that in the time that you've been apart, like she's gotten really close to these people, like, you're on your own journeys. - she's living her life. - And I have been there. I've sent that text about the house, but not specifically, but being like, "Whoa, huge update in your life, you didn't tell me,". or you're just kind of noticing it as it's happening. And you're not trying to like cause any drama, but you're like, "Oh my God, you didn't tell me.". - No, it's hard when you like pick your head up from the sand. and go, "Oh my God, this person.

that I used to talk to every day. is now, you know, married,". or is having a kid, or is blah, blah, blah. It's a really intense emotion and feeling. It's hard. - It's tough, and I've had. a couple times, not like this, not of this caliber, but in life, especially when I was younger, where I have like really close friends, but then I see that close friend. kind of become more involved. with another group of friends. And there's this kind of fear of like, "Oh, shoot, like I'm getting stranded. Like, "Oh, (beeping)." - It is so triggering. - It's a feeling of betrayal, but is it betrayal?

You know, it's like kind of like, no, especially when in this type of situation. where it's not like you're in school every day, and it's like, "Oh, you're physically leaving me.". It's like, "Oh, like, in your life, you found some other stuff." - You're not feeling chosen. - This episode of "Reddit Stories" is sponsored by Zocdoc. Talking on the phone can be. one of the most anxiety-inducing experiences known to man. That's why I never answer my calls. Like Trevor, he knows it makes me nervous, but always insists on calling me. That's why when booking an appointment with a doctor, I use Zocdoc.

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not like drifted apart where we're not friends, but drifted apart where we're not like, "Oh, we're our best friends.". But then another five years go by, and suddenly you're kind of back. And it's like that also happens. I wouldn't be surprised if 10 years from now. when they're both 36, like the right circumstances happen that you... - It's a double helix, I think. I think friendships are a double helix, and sometimes you're on the outer rim of it. and it's really far away, and sometimes you come back together years later. But I think what's important is, this person who's getting married,

these are the people that she sees, that she's sharing. Also, the way she described. the person who's getting married partner, she's not really a fan of the partner. And to be like close in the close-knit friendship, like the person who's doing the wedding, you want people who are like tight with you. and your partner. - Yeah, I see that. - And I'm not saying. bad on OP-. - No. - But I'm saying is like, they are creating their own community. And in a way it's like,

it is really hard and that does suck, and also you should go to the wedding. and support her. and kind of give a sendoff, because that's just what's happening. - Yeah, I think like the hardest part right now. is like she doesn't want to go. because she's so hurt. - [Shane] Yeah, I get that. - And I totally, honestly, I feel for this story more than so many of our stories. because it's just like. so human- - Oh, this is heartbreaking. - and it's so relatable. And it sucks to be the friend. that misses the friend that doesn't miss you.

It sucks. - The boyfriend is really who I think nailed it. It was just like, "She is not prioritizing you.". - Yeah, but, you know, I think I would feel just like OP. and I wouldn't want to go to the wedding, but I would hope my people would remind me to go. and be my best self. I think I would go, 20s me would go and be like kind of still upset. But you want the best, like you said, they could be friends again. She should go no matter what is what I think. I think it's hard. - She'll regret it.

- I think it's really hard to go, but I think it's the right thing to do. if she wants to- - She needs to get. some closure too. Like closure of, not the end of this friendship, but this friendship is shifted out of the season. like that it was in. - Yeah, she's also, honestly though, I would respect if she was like, "You know what? Every time I'm around this person, they make me feel this way. I'm not going to go." - That's true. That is also true. - Also fair. - It's fair. - 'Cause talking. to her boyfriend, and her boyfriend's like, "This person is not a good friend to you,". if this is what she's writing out in this story,

like, if she's maybe coming to terms with more, if there's more to it, then also, fair at any point to be like, "You know what? I don't want to..." - "I'm out.". - You don't have to be friends with someone, right? - Both are fair, I think it's just-. - But I think this so far just feels, it's just reminding me of situations in my life. where it's just complicated. And it's not like, "She's not doing awful things to me,". but it's just like, "Oh, but she's really just not. like being super considerate of me.". - And when someone's not choosing you,

you don't want to choose them back. - You want to make them feel the way. they're making you feel. - Yeah, it's such a human story, it's-. - It's something we can all. relate to as well. - such a real situation. Comments on it. "I'm saying this gently, but I think that in your mind, you're still closer than you actually are. You grew apart, it happens.". - True. - "It doesn't mean she doesn't. care about you or doesn't love you, but you're not as close as you were in high school, and that's okay. Sometimes people grow apart and get back together. You say you didn't even know she was friends. with some of her bridesmaids.

So how often do you talk really to not know that? I think you'll regret not going. and it's something you won't be able to take back.". Someone said, "I think you're not considering. the state of your friendship now. but the friendship you had 10 years ago.". OP responded saying, "I think I'm holding onto sentimental value. rather than realistic, which I need to work on." - Aw. - Same, babe. - And then someone. lastly said- - (laughing) Angela's having. a therapeutic experience. - Yeah, I think OP's writing it out. because they've already come to terms. with it a little bit. - I agree.

- But someone said, "You are no longer close friends. and you haven't been for a long time. She's been giving you many of these cues, but you've chosen to ignore them until now. I understand that this is painful, but it's also not your business. It would be totally inappropriate. for you to confront her. because she hasn't done anything wrong. and doesn't owe you an explanation. All you can do is finally recognize. that this is no longer a close relationship. and move forward from there. If you choose not to attend the wedding, send your regrets. and congratulations politely. and leave it at that.". - This is OP's mom.

- That person commenting. (production laughing). - She's like, "You know what? I'm going to tell her flat out. Enough with this." - Or honestly, just that commenter. This commenter is in the... - Yeah, can you be the husband? - Yeah, yeah, right? - I think I've got it. I think I've got it. - She's like, "She said 15 more minutes.". Hey, babe, I think it's time to come on upstairs. Time to go to bed. - One second. (production laughing). - Yeah. - I'll be right there. (everybody laughing).

- See, I knew what you were doing, but I needed to see her. - No, she needed to like, she got closure. - I needed to see her. - "You don't owe her anything, it would be inappropriate.". I was like, "Okay, it's time to go to bed.". And then she looks back on the old picture. of her and her friend Madison or something, and she's like... "I'll kill her one day.". (everybody laughing). - Or she goes, "I'm glad I murdered her.". (everybody laughing). - "I'm glad she's dead, and I murdered all her plates too.". - "And I murdered all of her plates too.". - All right. - It's time to go have sex with my husband. (everybody laughing).

- And he's like, "God, I'm exhausted. Whoo, toots galore over here." (laughing). - He's like, "I've been tied up for five hours now. Come on." (laughing). - "I have to poop. - "Babe, are you done commenting on Reddit stories?". (everybody laughing). - He can see the computer screen. - "Babe- - "Is this really necessary?". - just press Enter. You don't even know this woman.". - And she goes, "Anything you say would be inappropriate.". - "I'm losing blood in my hands.". (everybody laughing). - All right. - All right.

- All right. - Our next story comes from Wedding Shaming. and Wedding Planning. So I don't know which one it started on, but here we go. This was posted in August of, this was posted yesterday. - What is happening? - As of reading this, this was posted yesterday. - I'm loving this fresh batch of pancakes, folks. - Me too. - Here we go. This one reads, "What's the worst thing. you've ever seen happen at a wedding? I'll go first.". (Angela laughing) - I love that. Such a good title. - What's the worst thing. you've ever seen happen at a wedding? Just kidding, I'm not asking.

- I'll go first. - This is the title, (beeping) you. (Amanda and Shane laughing). - This question was posted in the subreddits. Wedding Shaming and Wedding Planning. We've highlighted a few of our favorite comments. So someone wrote, "Face pushed into the cake, which is dreadful enough on its own. The cake had rods in it. to keep the layers in place." (Angela gasping). "At least the bride's eye was missed. and her cheek isn't badly scarred.". (Amanda gasping) " Marriage did not last long.". - Oh. - I despise that tradition. - I despise that tradition. - I don't get it.

- I think it's funny as hell. - I despise when someone is... (Shane laughing). No, I think that tradition sucks. - No, I like it for a seven-year-old. on his Baskin-Robbins cake. - Baskin-Robbins. - In his face. I don't like it, for a wedding, that's crazy. - There were rods in the cake. Why didn't the cake person go out. and go, "Hey, heads up, rods in the cake?" - 'Cause they don't need. to be there. - 'Cause they're drunk. - They drop it off and they leave. (beeping) The, people. do not need to sit all day. - Dude, (beeping) that. That's crazy. (Angela laughing). Enough. Make your own cake, I swear to God.

- I wish we knew who pushed her. - It was the husband. - It was the groom. - Get a (beeping) life. - Well, it's always the groom. - No, seriously. - Well, it's always the groom, right? - By the way, she probably spent hundreds on makeup. - Oh, and he probably has no (beeping). He probably was literally asleep or jacking off-. - He's probably like, "What's on your face?". "Lipstick." - or playing golf. when she was getting a full beat. What a (beeping), I didn't know that grooms do that. I only really see people do-. - That's the tradition. - Wait. - The grooms do it. - So two people go up. and they go, "Yay, let's split the cake,". and then a groom if they're a (beeping) head-.

- I've seen like a bride and groom. like put cake on each other's face, but not go, "Hey." (imitating cake smashing). - Yeah, I know, 'cause it shouldn't happen. - Yeah, it's a lot of the like cake in the face too. - It shouldn't happen. - Unless it's like, oh, this is their vibe. and they both talked about it. and they both think it's funny. - Yeah, if her name is Brenda I Like Cake On My Face. (production laughing). - For some reason, that feels- - If that's your new last name. it's going to happen. - (laughing) I don't know. I don't like that. - All right. - You're disgusting. - You're disgusting. - Go take a shower. - I would love to.

- Someone said, "Went to a wedding once. where the invitation said that there won't be music. at the reception." (Amanda gasping). "And asked everyone who plays an instrument to bring one. and they would have a jam session. for reception entertainment instead.". - I used to be friends with people like that. - Me too, I literally went to college. with 90% of these people. - I went to theater school, that was all of it. - "The only person who brought an instrument was the groom. who played the didgeridoo. So the reception was just 20 or so minutes. of the groom playing the didgeridoo. before someone took pity on them. and retrieved their laptop from their car.

and blasted whatever was saved in their iTunes. Every other part of the wedding was BYO as well. Bring your own food, drinks and chairs. We forgot about the chairs part and had to stand. I really only went to this wedding. so I could see the train wreck. and I was not disappointed.". (beeping). - Seriously. - Edited to add-. - Seriously. - "This took place in Iowa, a place not known for the didgeridoo whatsoever. And the didgeridoo was not in the cultural heritage. of anyone present, including the bride and groom. The groom just though didgeridoos were neat.".

(production laughing). Oh, (beeping). - Was like literally a lot of people I went to college with. - You know that there were so many hacky sacks. at that wedding. - Of course. The man had dreads and he was white. (everybody laughing). - I'm picturing the guy that gets his laptop out of his car, like the first two hours, he's like, "It's fine, it's fine. And I'm not going to get it, I'm not going to get it." - "No, it's fine.". - "No, I'm going to get it, I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it.". - And then he plays it, it's just (beeping). "Chop Suey." - And there's no speakers, it's just a laptop. - Just System of a Down. - He's like, "Sorry, I don't have YouTube Premium.

Here's "Uptown Funk" with an ad for Acura.". (everybody laughing). - I don't even think it's that good. - Getting tired of the ads? Happy wedding to Brenda and Jim. - Jim. And Jim's like, "Whoa,". (laughing) with his dreads. - And Brenda's like, "Hey babe, we can have sex whenever. Can you put the didgeridoo down?". (everybody laughing). - All right. Someone said, "The best man called the bride. the groom's ex's name twice. during his reception speech. Twice.".

(heavily exhaling) Someone said, "One of my friends. had their wedding at a nature conservatory. Beautiful setting. It was in an old-but-maintained giant log cabin. with the dance floor and bar outside. overlooking the forest.". - Whoa. - "Then it started. raining caterpillars from the trees above. They were everywhere." - What? "One landed right-" - Is that a turn of phrase? - No, no, they're caterpillars-. - 'Cause it's out in the woods, it's at a conservatory. - 'Cause they fall. - "One landed right in my bra. as I was waiting for a drink.". (production laughing) - That's kind of fun. - And I said, "Sir, let me sip my martini first.".

- "Sir, there's a bug in my breast. Can you get it?" (laughing). (everybody laughing). I thought they were going to say. there was like some hawk, like, (squawking) (laughing). the whole wedding. - No, they needed some birds. to eat the caterpillars. 'cause there was caterpillars everywhere. - Oh, right. - So there's parts of the country. where just caterpillars. just start coming down? - Well, they're like. in the forest, so there's trees above them. - They're like inching on little branches. - But it's just like, "Oh, they're done?". - No. - It's like constant? - They do it on the East Coast. You'll be walking, and it's like boom, boom, boom, boom.

Yeah. - 'Cause they're hanging, they're going to make cocoons. and turn into butterflies. - Oh. - Yeah, they're going to turn. into butterflies, beautiful butterflies. - They're going into women's bras. and making a cocoon and butterfly. Am I right? (production laughing). - "The groom got too drunk. and hooked up with the maid of honor.". (Amanda gasping) "It was so embarrassing. I'm assuming the bride never turned the marriage license. into the clerk and recorder.". Someone replied, "At the wedding? What the hell?". - What the helly? - Where? - I have read stories about-. - Me too. - people cheating. at the wedding. I don't know.

- You sick (beeping). (Amanda laughing). - He's such a dad sometimes. - I don't know. - "I don't know, next story.". - Quite literally, it's not there. "A bridesmaid fainted during the ceremony, attended one wedding where a guest sang a song. about her love for the groom. The singer was the bride's friend. She had too much to drink. The song was from the '90s, 'Congratulations' by a singer named Vesta. Here are some of the lyrics. 'Congratulations, I thought it would've been me standing here with you. Congratulations, I hope you're happy. 'cause as long as I can breathe, you'll always be the one for me.

Oh, oh. Why was I the last to know? I thought that we were special. My soul shakes, my heart breaks.'". - Wait, I know this song. You sang this at his wedding. (Angela and production laughing). - I did. I was really far away and only you heard it. - And I kept being like, "Shh.". - But you took a video of it. and I'll send it to you soon. - Great. (Angela laughing). - Look at him, he's like, "Next story, stop it, stop." - They continue, "After singing a few bars, the DJ cut in and played some music. Someone took the friend out. Bride didn't get upset and people just danced.

I'm not sure what possessed her to do that. It happened fairly quickly. - Took the friend out? - Yeah, killed her. (everybody laughing). - Good on that DJ though. - They're like, "Amy. Hey, Amy, that was a great time.". Boom, (laughing) go. Sorry. - That DJ. did a very scary but right thing. - What song did he play? - I can't sing any of them. - Celine Dion, "Power of Love" probably. - He probably sang. ♪ I love when she take control ♪. ♪ She beat my meat, Whack-A-Mole ♪.

- We've been talking about just all this awful stuff. Is there any, like, what is something at a wedding. that you're like, "That was awesome, that was the coolest thing I saw?". - Oh, okay. - Like, "They crushed this.". - Oh. - Well, at my wedding, I danced in a cage, and there was a guy who was dressed like Santa. and he joined me. - Very cool. - You're joking? - Holy shit. - I'm actually not kidding. - What? - It was like late at night, we didn't rent a club, but we decided to go in. We're like, "Oh, whatever, let's try this.". We went in, there was no one on the dance floor. except for this old man who was dressed like Santa. - And there was a cage? - This is May, in May.

And there was a cage at the club, like where sexy girls would dance in the cage. And I decided to get up there. in my wedding dress. (Angela laughing). And the guy joined me. And he was going like this to my butt, and I was going like this to his butt. There's videos of it. - That's really special. - That's really special. - That happened. - (laughing) That's really nice. - Anything else? - Really special. - That's really special. - Oh, my cousin took off her wedding dress. and swam in the ocean. that was like right there. - Oh.

- Whoa. - Just her. - Oh, did it by herself? - She was by herself. - Honestly, cool. - She just swam in the ocean. in the middle of the wedding- - That's the beginning. of "Jaws.". - and came back. (everybody laughing). It's not Snowblake. - I'm trying to think. What's like the coolest thing I've seen. at a wedding? - I've come up with two, so it's crazy. (Angela laughing) - Okay, okay. (Amanda laughing). - I'll think of one, I'll think of one. - Emily wrote down one that I really like. "My cousin had a mashed potato bar at their wedding. when I was a kid, and that slapped.". (Amanda gasping) - And I bet as kids, you're like.

- Oh, that's incredible. - Oh my God. - [Shane] That's amazing. - That is actually amazing. - Holy shit. - I was at a wedding. where they brought out some afigato cart. that just rocked. - Aw. - At the perfect time. Right when everyone was like, "I want to keep eating sweets, but I don't want them. I keep wanting to dance, but I'm tired.". - Aw. - They brought in this (beeping). - Dude. - Honestly, like, I could do a dry wedding if it was like, "But we have this sick-ass cafe.".

If we have some nice coffee drinks, coffee and ice cream, I'm like, "That's better than alcohol. I'll do that all night.". - I love weddings that come out. with a little surprise later. You know how weddings will come out. with pizza maybe sometimes at the end of the night? - The snacks, it's a huge thing now. - Aw. - It's like almost, now the last couple weddings I've been to all have it, where it's like late-night bites. - Wow. - My God, when they drop. those chicken fingers. - It hits. - That's awesome. - Like right before. they close the dance floor, yeah. - It hits. - And you know what I did. the last wedding I went to? I found a to-go box,

'cause I knew we were in the middle. of butt (beeping) nowhere. And I went, "We're all going to...". - I have a cousin from Butt (beeping). (Angela, Shane and production laughing). - Oh my God, I love that place. (laughing). - Anyway, that was really good. - It was so dumb. - I got a to-go box. and I saved it 'til 4:00 a.m. and I ate it. - So dumb. - That was really good. - He's going to keep laughing. - That was just the dumbest joke ever. Go on, you got a to-go box. - And then I ate the food later. - (laughing) And there we go. (production laughing).

- Now you made her skip right to the end. (laughing). (Shane laughing). - Sorry, had to fast-forward on your... (laughing). - Yours was so much funnier. - I have a cousin from Butt (beeping). - Oh, it was the genuine. Oh, oh, I have a cousin. - I have a... (laughing) (Amanda laughing). - Wow, I guess we haven't been. to too many (laughing) great weddings. - No, I don't think- - No, I think we've all. been to like very chill. - Oh, I've had some crazy shit. - I've not had major drama. at any weddings I've been to. - Me neither. - We were talking about cool things. to happen at weddings. That's what that was. - Yes, but I'm saying like, like, it just sounds like. we've been to some chill weddings.

The worst of any of the weddings that I've been to. is I've seen some people get a little too drunk. - Oh. - Or like a lot too drunk. Like 90%. - But not. an embarrassing speech, like not a public like, "Whoa.". - Oh, I have seen a heckler at a wedding. - Oh my God. - She heckled every speech. - No. - And she's this older woman. - [Shane] That's awesome. - Oh, okay, that's fine. - She heckled every speech. - She can do whatever she wants. - Moving on to our next story. This next one comes from Am I the Asshole Weddings?

- Ooh. - Whoa. Combining things. Here we go. This was posted in March of this year. "Am I the asshole for saying no. when my sister-in-law. asked for my husband's nieces and nephews. to put on a performance at our wedding?". - Oh God. - Whoa. - This is so weird. - This is getting funky. - "My husband and I are having our ceremony. later in the year. My sister-in-law has asked my husband. if his nieces and nephews can put on a performance. at our wedding.

I personally feel like the way our wedding is planned, having them do some type of performance. just doesn't fit in at any point. It's not a traditional wedding. and we have changed a lot about the way. the ceremony will be performed. Another point is that these are all children. They are all under 10 years old. I feel like this will come across as more talent showy, and I just can't see it happening. in any way that's fitting for a wedding. I was also shocked that she'd asked. for something like that. She's never asked about our wedding plans. My husband asked for my thoughts privately,

and I immediately said no. I expressed that, due to his family's history with him, I would not be accommodating to them, probably ever. They have a history of taking advantage. of my husband's kindness, especially when it comes to his nieces and nephews. I've been very clear about my boundaries. from the beginning. He understands and respects it. He also began drawing his own boundaries, and I'm so proud of him for that. I'm admittedly very guarded, but my immediate gut feeling. was that she was asking this for selfish reasons. I'm not sure why, but this request. doesn't sit right with me, especially with her lack of interest.

in our entire wedding. My husband sees it differently. He thinks it was an innocent request. I'm seeing the overall picture, but he's just considering the request, so it may seem innocent. I would've been fine with it if my husband wanted it. or even the kids. I've asked my best friend, two cousins, and my cousin's girlfriend, they all said it was a weird request. However, they might be biased. I just need some outside perspective. Am I the asshole for saying no? Edit for further context. I tried not to use too many details. as the people involved use Reddit, but (beeping) it.".

That's where my cousin's from. (Angela laughing). She asked... (laughing) - Butt (beeping). - (beeping) It is next to Butt Fuck. - Yeah, yeah, well, this is Butt (beeping). (everybody laughing). Which is also near Nantucket. "She asked for them to perform a dance. They aren't dancers. I asked my husband if they could, and he said they're like a four out of 10.". (Amanda gasping) "This furthered. my bewilderment." (laughing). - Damn. - Oh, so the kids can't dance? Then absolutely not. - They're kids. (Angela laughing). - "I don't dictate his boundaries. I just make mine clear.".

(Angela laughing). "My in-laws are complicated. I've watched them use and take my husband for granted. for years. I'll start with his parents. They're racist.". (everybody laughing). - They're also from Butt (beeping). - (laughing) Like, okay, and we'll start. (laughing) Like, "My in-laws are complicated.". And then two, "They're racist.". - They're racist. (Angela laughing). - "They had a terrible reaction. when he showed them my photo.". - Oh. (Amanda gasping). - Okay. - Okay, that gives. a lot of, okay. "They've also used him. to support the entire household. while allowing his brother.

to be verbally abusive towards him. He's cut that off. and doesn't interact with his brother, who is also a racist. His sister, the one who asked, used him as an on-call babysitter for years. My husband would work his nine-to-five Monday to Friday. only for his sister to drop her kids off on a Friday night. and expect him to babysit until whenever. I listened to him vent about this. until I sat him down. and explained he was allowing it. He's since cut that out completely. and only helps his mom with the kids now and then. She also knowingly made terrible choices. in who she procreated with,

so she has no help from the father. That is an entire story on its own. My husband has been very open. about wanting to cut down contact with his family. and not have them too involved in our lives. once we close on our home. I would never dictate how he should interact with them. We've both been clear about managing our own families, and he's been very, very open about not tolerating their BS. It's a huge shift from what they're accustomed to, and it's been almost two years. since he made that change.". Okay, well, I feel like this one's pretty clear. - Yeah, this one's pretty, pretty clear.

- To ask for a sister-in-law, for anyone to ask like, "Oh, can my children put on a performance at your wedding?". is like- - You know what? No. - I know it's your wedding, but can it be about my children? - And it would be- - What if it was about. my children? - It would be a lot. of organizing. It would be like, "Okay, go.". And honestly, those kids will probably get up there. and not do it. - They're going to freeze up. in front of a huge crowd. - Have you ever been like, "Oh my God, blah, blah, blah's so good at this, do it?". Look- - They're always like. - It sucks. - I don't know these kids, but like I've been. in the entertainment industry a long time. These kids don't have what it takes.

(Angela laughing) - Oh my God. They're a four out of 10. - These kids are not ready for this shit. - They're a four out of 10. is what he said. - This guy was on "So Random.". He knows. - Yeah, yeah. I'm a Disney kid. Look, I know. - Yeah, it's crazy. - No, this sucks for every... You know those kids are also going to be like, "Oh, I don't want to (beeping) do this," like. (laughing). - And you know what? They will literally, she'll make the time, she'll organize this, she'll be stressed about it the whole day, and they literally will not do anything. - What are they going to perform? ♪ Hi, I'm a kid ♪. (everybody laughing). ♪ Hello, I'm a kid ♪. ♪ I'm a kid and this is my sister ♪.

♪ Hey, I'm his sister ♪. ♪ My dad's a racist ♪. ♪ My mom's a racist and my uncle cut it off ♪. (Shane and production laughing). - What are they going to... It's so bizarre to me. I'm like- - It's clear that OP. has like, clearly from how awful this family is, has just like smelled it immediately of just like, "Oh, this is going to be something so much worse. than what she's saying this is about to be. Like, do not give them anything.". - I even think it's inappropriate to be like, "Can my kids be the flower girls?".

- You can't, yeah, just ask. - Or the ring bearer. Like even that. - 'Cause the bride. and groom need to- - But can they perform? - I agree. - The bride and groom. ask that, yeah, it's not even straight to those things. It's like, "Hey, can we have a moment for my children?". - Like, what in the Shirley Temple hell? - What in the Shirley Temple hell? - What? - This reminds me of that. orphan story we read forever ago, remember? - When the orphan was like, I think, the orphans say. (Amanda laughing). Oh, we talked about an orphan tap dancing being like... - Yeah. Sorry, I-. - No, it's okay. - No, we're just hanging out here. - I think a request like this at like a family reunion.

or something is fine. Like if it's an equal event for everyone, but this is a wedding. - I'm sorry, you should not have any outside requests. for a wedding. - You don't get to make. requests at a wedding. - It's the bride and groom's wedding, unless you are the parents and you are paying. Still, if you're the parents and you are paying, like, you shouldn't have that many requests. - No. - It's their wedding. - No. - She's not the asshole, - As a kid who wanted to perform at things. There, I said it.

(production laughing). - We all did, didn't we? No? - I don't think I ever like asked, I think I would just be like, "Grandma, grandpa, stand here. Let me show you our play.". Like I don't think we were like looking for like. to be booked. - We would improvise. - I feel like what would naturally happen. with kids at a wedding. is like on the dance floor at some point, like the kids would be like out, like there'd be a number where the kids go out and like, oh, they're just having fun. - They have their time. - The hardest I have ever laughed this summer, one of the billions of weddings I went to, we're all crowding around this little girl. in this bright tutu. And she was confused.

And for some reason, her parents were like, "Yeah.". And we're all circling around her. and we're dancing and she's like. And then my friend looks at me. and did her voice and went, "You're probably wondering how I got here.". (Shane laughing). - That is so funny. - That's great. - But yeah, the kids aren't going to be like. Kids don't even know what you're doing, under 10, they're just at a wedding being like, "I want to go home." - They're like, "There's food, there's dessert, and I'm probably going to have to stay up 'til late.". Like. - That's it. - My favorite, I think I told this story before, but my favorite, 'cause my nieces and nephews.

were at one of our, like, wedding celebration things. And they're incredible and they're, like, so kind. And they're around like 10, right? But my nephews, the youngest, we had, like, a cupcake tower. My mom and the relative who made the cupcakes. were very much like, "Okay, like, the bride and groom. need to have the cupcakes first,". like, to have that moment, you know, whatever. (Amanda laughing) But my brother was like, "Hey, so my nephew, like, he's just like, he really wants a cupcake. Can you get one early?". And I was like, "Yeah, dude, he can have a cupcake.". Like, and then it was just kind of like, "We're going to be secretive about it.". And at one point, like, I'm there at the wedding,

like, talking to people, and I just look and I see in the corner of this venue, (laughing) I just see my nephew in the corner. facing the wall eating a cupcake, (laughing). 'cause he's trying to, like, be really secretive. And it's my favorite moment from the whole wedding, 'cause it's so funny, of him just being like, "I'm not going to make a big deal out of this, but I just really need a cupcake.". - I love that he's- - And I was like, "That's (beeping) valid, man." (laughing). Facing the wall, just like. - [Shane] Just. (munching) (laughing). - [Angela] Or you know those cupcakes-. - They were really good cupcakes. So, fair. - you know those cupcakes. with, like, colored icing that change your tongue?

- Yeah. - (laughing) Yeah. And he turns around, he's like, "Yeah, I'm fine.". (Shane and Angela laughing). - Or your cousin. or your brother- - Blue. (laughing). - has a blue tongue, and he's like, "My kid really wants a cupcake.". - (laughing) And I'm like, "Did you?". He's like, "He wants one, I don't need one.". - "He's dying for one.". - He's covered, (laughing) "I don't want one. I don't want one. He wants one." (Angela laughing). - It's so cute. - It was very adorable. - So cute. - It's my favorite moment. All right, some comments here. "Not the asshole, it's your wedding, so that's reason enough to say no. It's your and your fiance's day,

not your sister-in-law's or the kids'. I've also never heard of or seen a children's performance. at a wedding. Seems odd in every way. Whatever her reasons, just say no. 'That's not our vibe, but we look forward to seeing your children perform. at the appropriate place and time.'". (Angela and Amanda laughing). (laughing) "'For instance, their school/dance, et cetera, recitals.'. I hope you have a wonderful wedding and marriage.". Someone said, "Not the asshole. It's weird that she wants to make your wedding. a background for the children in their family. I would decline that request.". Someone said, "My friend hired a local drag queen.

to play her rich, gay, eccentric uncle at the wedding. She gave him all kinds of random details. to gaslight her family with. Her sister, maid of honor, was in on it and helped. She said it was fantastic. and it's been 20 years. and people still ask about Uncle Malcolm." (laughing). (Angela laughing) Someone said, "I've never seen a children's performance. except when I was in school. and every single one of them sucked." (laughing). (Amanda laughing). - Jesus. - Oh my God. - But it's true. - My favorite are the kids' performances. where you see all the kids. are looking at the teacher in the wings,

and they're all going like. - And the teacher's going like, the teacher's like. (Shane laughing) - She's going. - And you're like. And then she goes. And there's one kid who's just going. (Angela laughing). - Yeah, the one kid's just like, "I'm not doing this.". - [Amanda] And everyone else is performing. - "I don't believe in this material.". (Angela laughing). All right. Well, hey, good news. Update. - Yeah. - The kids perform. - Whoa. - What do we think's gonna happen? - I think the kids are gonna do it anyways.

- With how awful this family sounds, she's gonna be like-. - The woman's gonna go, "Oh, oh, oh, oh, sorry, sorry. My kids have a little performance. that they want to do for the bride,". She's gonna do it anyways. - Yeah, I think that's a good point, or she lost her mind. and like wrote some like awful email. - Mm. (Amanda gasping). - No, I vote yours. - Oh, that could be true. The bride you mean? - No, OP. - 'Cause I wonder if this. family has truly had the boundaries. like visibly put in front of them, right? - I think it might just be like, "We're done." - 'Cause OP says like.

she's been working with her fiance. to like set boundaries, but I wonder how obvious that is to the family yet. Let's see. - Big fight or a dance? - It's a fight dance. (production laughing). "West Side Story." (fingers snapping). "A few people have since asked for me to update. Here are the final developments. I did show this post to my husband. I'll be calling the problematic sister PS. My husband, we are legally married, but decided on having our ceremony and reception. later in the year. due to my mom undergoing chemo and radiation therapy.

for a rare type of cancer. Sat down with his nieces and nephews. and asked them directly if they were interested. in doing a dance. They all said no. The oldest one actually said, 'That would be so cringe.'". (Amanda gasping) (Angela laughing). (production laughing) "He asked if any of them. had asked to do a dance. or any type of performance at the wedding. They all said no again.". All right. "Knowing this, my husband felt comfortable saying no. as the kids didn't even want this. He broached the topic with PS in the car.

so it could be discussed privately. He said, 'Hey, about the dance, I've decided on no.'. PS started raising her voice, asking him why. He said he just didn't want it. She flipped out and started shouting at him. She accused him of not loving her or her kids anymore. He asked her why she would think that. She said because he won't babysit for her. and it's hindering her life. My husband just asked if PS. didn't think that it was hindering our lives. having to be her on-call babysitter, and that he had no part in making her kids. PS screamed at him that he was selfish.

for not allowing them to do a dance. and that not everything is about us. (laughing). Not everything is about us on our wedding day? She also accused him of playing favorites. with regards to me and her kids. She has obviously lost the (beeping) plot. He told PS that he knew the kids. didn't even want to do anything like that, that this was all about her and her need for attention. He also asked her how he could be playing favorites. because I'm literally his wife. She was full-on-screaming, frothing-at-the-mouth raging at him. about how he was ruining her life, that he was selfish and a terrible uncle.

He just told her to pull over. and he got out of the car. He took an Uber back to his cousin's house. and ended up telling his parents. what happened with PS. His parents instantly started reasoning with him. to make peace with his sister. because she's just like that. He just said no, and he walked away from them. When he told me what happened, I was stunned, because what is she on? I adore his nieces and nephews, but his sister is (beeping) unhinged. She blocked me on WhatsApp, like I even care. She also deleted his contact, but didn't block him. so he wouldn't see her profile picture or statuses.

She then made sure he overheard her saying this to a cousin. This woman is 40 years old. It's so embarrassing. My husband at that point. fully saw the situation from my perspective. This was never an innocent ask. She eventually calmed down, unblocked us, and tried to start communicating with us again. We were gray rocking her. Gray rocking is a tactic. that is used to combat manipulative and abusive behavior. that involves becoming as uninteresting. and unengaged as possible. so that the other person loses interest.

Our wedding day came and it was perfect. His other sister was so happy for us. and she complimented everything. She was very impressed with how well done. and well thought out our wedding was. She thanked me for getting toys, books, and having an activity area for all the kids. She said she knew it was a woman's touch. That was a really nice moment. PS was extremely reserved most of the day. She did not speak to us at all, but she proceeded to wail like a banshee. during the ceremony. She even went to the washroom in the middle of it. because she was so overwhelmed by her emotions.

We literally did not pay her any mind. We couldn't see anything else. but each other in that moment. The kids were very happy. They danced with everyone else. and no one else paid any mind to PS either. His parents seemed very happy for us. and his father spoke to me privately. and said he knows I make his son happy. and that's all he wants. His mother was also reserved, but she was exceedingly happy. to go show off pictures. because our wedding lived up to their standards, I guess. We are going to be gray rocking PS. without sacrificing the nieces and nephews. We really do love them and care for them.".

- Gray rocking. - Yeah, it's a term. - I've never heard of this term, have you? - Never. - So, yeah, I mean, narcissists and manipulators, they want a reaction out of you, so-. - I've like seen the tactic, I've never heard of the name. - Same. - Yeah, 'cause a gray rock is just uninteresting. So the more that you just give them nothing. is kind of the way, right? Like- - This woman, man. She clearly has some issues that she needs to work out. that she's been projecting onto her brother forever.

- Oh yeah. - I worry about those kids. 'cause what has she decided they want to do. that they don't actually want to do? She just wants them to do it. - Yeah, and then her wailing during the ceremony. was her clearly wanting attention again. - Yeah, geez. - Oh, I've been in a wedding where someone is sobbing so, so hard. for an event. - Like happy sobbing? - Like yelling-out sobbing? - I've definitely been around someone. who's crying a little too hard. We were like, "Damn, man, it's all good.". (Shane and production laughing). You know what I mean? - You're like, "This is.

kind of a good thing.". - Yeah, it's a good time. - It's a good time. - It's a good time. - We're having a good time here. That's such a wild story. - Aw. Sounds like this OP is a badass. It sounds like she knows herself, she knows her boundaries, and I'm really glad that she was able. to kind of get her husband on the same page as her. - I know, it seems like she found a really good one. in kind of a tough family. Like really tough. - Damn. - And that they love each other so much. "We didn't notice anyone during the wailing,".

she said. - Yeah, how could you not? It's just like, "And anyways.". "No.". - They're like, "I love you.". - "Ah." - Yeah. All right, we're moving on to our final story. - Whoa. - Yeah. Our final story comes from Wedding Drama. It was posted in June of 2025. "My cousin's wedding had a surprise guest, a goat in a tux.". (Amanda and Angela laughing). Hell yeah. - Okay. (production laughing). - Fancy. - I'm listening.

- I'm in there. - "Last weekend, I attended my cousin's wedding. It was one of those charming, rustic chic setups. A barn venue, fairy lights, burlap runners, and a folksy guy playing acoustic love songs. It was beautiful, really. Everything was going smoothly. until it was time for the ring bearer. to walk down the aisle. Everyone turned expectantly, phones ready, and instead of a child in a little suit, out came Gregory. Gregory is a goat." - Of course. - Gregory is a goat, a real living goat in a tuxedo. Apparently the couple thought it would be adorable.

to have their pet goat carry the rings. And it might've worked if Gregory. was in the mood to cooperate. He wasn't.". - Hell yeah. - "Rather than walk. down the aisle, Gregory decided to do his own thing. He wandered off course, dragged the poor flower girl behind him, and made a beeline for the guest book table.". (Angela laughing) "He tried to eat it, the actual guest book. My aunt screamed. The groom was cracking up. The officiant barely blinked, a total professional. Meanwhile, the rest of us sat there frozen. between confusion and laughter. Eventually, the best man lured Gregory away. with a breadstick from the appetizer table,

which was honestly the most heroic thing. I saw all day. The rings were intact, the ceremony continued, and all was well, except Gregory managed to sneak into nearly every photo, just standing there like he was part of the bridal party.". - Oh my God. (laughing). - I mean, he kind of was. "It was chaotic, hilarious, and honestly kind of perfect in its own weird way. I don't know if it was the goat or the love in the air, but that wedding, unforgettable.". - Aw. (Angela laughing). That's so cute. - It was the greatest of all time. - I love that. - If I'm at a wedding. and there's some sort of animal like that,

I'm like, "This is the best wedding ever.". - Best wedding ever. - There was a story we read years ago. about someone bringing their pet raccoon to a wedding. - Pet raccoon. - And they were told. not to bring the raccoon, so they're the asshole for bringing it. against people's wishes. But if I was at a wedding and there was a raccoon, I'd be like, "Oh my God. I know who I'm getting. drunk with all night." - What? A goat, that's not a pet. Go home, lady. (production laughing). - You go, "Oh my God, finally, somebody to hit on.". (Shane and production laughing). - It's just Shane and a raccoon. on a little couch. (Angela laughing). - Imagine you're at a wedding,

and like, imagine we're all at a wedding. We get invited, we have a mutual friend, all of us, and we go to a wedding. And halfway through the night, you've already had a couple drinks, you turn and you see me at a table by myself, with a beer, talking to a raccoon. (Angela clapping). (Shane laughing). Shane- - What do you do? - I would be like- - And I'm just here like, "I (beeping) know." - That's awesome. - "I know, dude.". - I think Shane is finally having his heart to heart. that he's needed. - I walked two dogs down aisles. - Whoa. - Once I was paid to do it. When I was a big-time dog walker for the stars. - Oh, boy. (production laughing). Here we go. - I had to go to a wedding,

didn't know them, didn't know the dog. And they were like, "We just need someone. that the dog will learn-". - Did you have to dress up? - I was in like all black, like a wedding photographer. - Whoa. - And I had to like walk. Bella down the aisle. And I had to put this tutu on her, and she did not like it. And then I was stuck with her the rest of the night. - You were there all night. with this dog? - Yeah, 'cause they wanted-. - But you were paid to watch the dog all night? - Yeah, yeah. - Wow. We have one comment on Gregory, and it is, "I would take out a second mortgage on my house. to pay whatever entry fee would be required.

to witness this.". - Aw, of course. I love that Gregory was in every photo too. - That's so funny. - It's awesome. - He just walked in every photo? - Yeah. - And the best part about that. is that he stayed for the rest of the thing. - Like it's really polite that he did that. (Angela and production laughing). - Also, kind of crazy to give him the rings, like the most like cherished part of the-. - Yeah, he could've eaten them. - Like, yeah. - That would suck. - And did they say. he took the flower girl? - Well, I think the flower girl. was kind of probably like tethered to him. - (laughing) She's in the air like, "Ah.".

(Shane laughing) - She's being dragged. on the ground. (laughing). - (laughing) Yeah. (production laughing). - "Ah.". - Anyways, these have been some wonderful stories today. - So good. - Really good stories. - Really great conversation. Thank you both for joining me today. - Of course. - Thank you for your insights. into the wedding world. - These wedding stories, I love them. Send us more. - Yeah, please, they're so good. - Thank you for watching. I hope your weddings have been good. And if you're going to have a wedding eventually, I hope that's also good. - Have the best time, it's your day. (gasping).

Oh my God, yeah. - Uh-oh. Someone catch it. (upbeat music). - Wait, who? - Oh, here we go. - Are you throwing it there? - Who's going to get it? Aw. - Aw. - One of you caught that at home? - Let us know in the comments. if you caught that. - That was awesome. (Angela, Amanda and production laughing). All right, we'll see you next Saturday. Goodbye. - Bye. - Bye. - Thanks again to DoorDash for sponsoring this episode. Needed that. Delivered. DoorDash, order now.