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- Welcome to "Reddit Stories". I'm Shane. And today's theme, we have some shocking stories, and I'm with two shocking individuals. Damien and Tommy. (Damien gasps). (Tommy yelps). Brendan also let out a gasp. - That was, yeah, that was actually, I don't think I've ever seen Brendan show fear. - I should have you guys know, the original plan for today's episode. was gonna be silly stories, but then apparently so many shocking stories, so many shocking developments happened. that they changed this. So this episode in itself is a bit of a shock. - No laughing, no humor. - Mm-mm.
- Silly is out. - Silly is out, shocking is in. - In. - I'm so glad they told us, because, like, I was prepped for a silly episode, and I had pre-canned all of my reactions. Like (laughs goofily)- - And now you're screwed. - Yeah, 'cause if it was shocking and I didn't know that, and someone was like, "My mom turned out to be bats,". I'm like, (laughs goofily) I don't wanna do that. - Well, I probably would get that reaction. - Love the idea of rehearsing. your reactions for Reddit. (Shane laughing). - We all do that, right? - Looking in the mirror- - Wow! - Beforehand, oh, definitely the asshole. (all laugh) - Yeah.
- Not the asshole. - Yeah, you gotta look- - Tears. - We'll have a shock scale. We'll try to keep a shock scale going. We'll see, like- - Okay. - After each story, we'll be like, okay, how much did that shock you? - Got it. - We'll see if we hit a 10. - Oh, we're doing numbers? - I think like one through 10. - I was thinking, like, DDR vibes of like, "Crazy!". - Sure, you can do that, too. (all laughing). - Phenomenal! - Nice foot! - Nice foot! - Nobody's stopping you from doing that. - Yeah. - All right. - Our first story. "Am I the asshole for not wanting to get rid of. "the anime body pillow that saved my marriage?".
So this anime body pillows saved a marriage. Let's see. "My husband and I are best friends during the day. "Love of my life. "It's at night that's an issue. "I'm a blanket stealer. "I once yanked them so hard, my poor hubby flipped. "a full 180. "Hubby, for his part, is a thrasher. "Bruce Lee would be jealous of the moves. "he pulls off while unconscious. "It's a constant war between us when we fall asleep, "and both of us often wake up sore and exhausted. "It was starting to affect our relationship. "Neither of us wanted to move to a separate bed.
"because we like spending our nights together, "but it seemed like an inevitability. "We were both crabby every morning. "and we started fighting as soon as we got up. "It sucked, but neither of us wanted to concede defeat. "and move to the other bed. "Quick background, I was a huge nerd as a teenager. "Full on Otaku. "Go ahead, cringe. "I do too. "One night as a joke, I brought down an old anime. "body pillow from the attic. "I know, the cringe. "And I plopped it down between my husband and I, "declaring it our demilitarized zone. "Hubby also thought it was hilarious, "and we named her DMZ Chan.
"She stayed there the whole night. "It was a game changer. "DMZ Chan protected me from hubby's REM-induced rampages, "and she's just heavy enough. "that I can't yank the blankets at full speed. "DMZ Chan is now a beloved part of our nightly routine. "We both thought it was the funniest thing, "but she legitimately helped us solve. "the only real issue in our marriage. "One day, mother-in-law stopped by to pick something up. "She got up to use the restroom, "passing by our open bedroom door. "You can guess what she saw, "DMZ Chan, propped up in the middle of our bed,
"her giant soulful anime eyes. "looking right back at mother-in-law. "When she got back, she quickly grabbed her stuff and left, "hubby and I both confused. "She later mentioned DMZ Chan to hubby. "while they were on the phone, "and it absolutely mortified him. "As far as I know, mother-in-law now thinks we are deviants. "in a three-way relationship with a body pillow. "Hubby was too embarrassed to explain, "and now he wants to put DMZ Chan back in the attic. "I was upset. "I told him I didn't want to go back. "to boxing with each other at night, "and that DMZ Chan helped us so much in that. "He agreed, but suggested we get a normal.
"plain body pillow case to replace her. "I felt like there was no need to spend the money. "on something we already have, "and if it was really that big of an issue, "we can put her in the closet while we have company over. "Hubby is firm in that she has to go permanently. "I know he's embarrassed, but I feel we shouldn't. "have to compromise our inside jokes. "to appease other people. "Am I the asshole?". - Don't put her in the closet. - Do not put DMZ Chan in the closet. - That's so disrespectful. - Yeah, what are her soulful eyes. gonna look at in the closet? - I know. - I thought the mother was gonna, like, come out.
and be like, "My Hero"? (all laughing). We are a "Demon Slayer" household. - That's true. You know what, Tanjiro as a body pillow, the pattern would actually lend to more rooms, than, look man, I don't know, I'm a weeb. You know, she uses the word otaku. I'm like a whatever floats your boat kind of thing. in a relationship, where it's like, if it's not hurting anybody, I don't care. if you want an anime boobies poster, like live your life. - They're both dying on weird hills, 'cause it's, both solutions are pretty easy, you know?
- Yeah. - Yeah. - Here it's like either yeah, throw it in the closet. when the mom's over, if you don't want her to see that, or yeah, get another cover for it, or buy another body pillow. - Or use that time to wash the cover. Like, ew. - Yeah, maybe they have. We don't know if they have or not. - Well. - But it's so easy to hide it. I don't understand why it's like, no, we have to get rid of it. - I have a question about body pillows. - Shoot. - Is there- (laughing). - I don't know shit about 'em, really. - As a weeb, yeah, go for it. - So in my eyes, they have the body pillow like.
- Right. - Can they not flip her over? Or is there a- - Oh, is there a blank side? - From my early Smosh days, when they were. cleaning out a closet, I don't have the pillow, but I have like a cover. They were like getting rid of a "One Punch Man" one. that they'd used from a sketch, and I still have it in a drawer, and so like, it's one of "One Punch Man", just like this, and then there's another side where he's just like, mm. A little bit more like, mm. Like lounged back. - Got it. - So I think it ranges.
Also one time as a prank, I wanted to make one of myself. for a partner. Didn't end up following through, but I'm just like, it can be anything, but there are usually two sides. - Glad you didn't know it'd be like the sweater curse, where you make a sweater for your partner, and they break up with you. - That's so true. - Oh my god. - You make a body pillow for someone. - There's five different body pillow covers. of me floating around out there. - You're like (beeping). - Go to the wrong Goodwill, and you're just like, huh. There's a lot of these. - I like your specific number.
- The verdict was not the asshole. - Yeah. - "Not the asshole. "The real problem isn't about removing the pillow, "but the fact that your mother-in-law made a scene. "about something that isn't any of her business. "Your husband should stop enabling that.". I agree. Someone said, "Info, can't you just take the cover off?". Lastly, someone said, "Okay, but it's not about. "pleasing other people anymore, is it? "Your husband is now uncomfortable with the pillow. "You wouldn't be uncomfortable with the plain pillow. "he is suggesting, so it seems pretty obvious. "that the choice here should be you're the asshole. "Unpopular, I know.". So he's saying like, yeah,
she wasn't saying like, this body pillow. means so much to me. It's been up in the attic for a long time. I don't think she's admitting like, no, I actually love this body pillow, and I love the cover on it and stuff. - Right. - She was making it sound like it's just. this whatever thing, but now she doesn't wanna. get rid of it either. I don't know. It's interesting. - Yeah. - In, in my opinion, there's something so fun. about having it be like a, that pillow is a person that we love. - Oh, it's very charming and funny. - It's fun. - It's DMZ Chan. - I know! - Which sounds awesome as hell.
- A crazy name to give that pillow, by the way. - It's absolutely batshit crazy. - It's a lot of issues all in a row. (all laughing). And I'm just like, yep. I didn't say it. - It's fun, 'cause then it's like, goodnight honey. Goodnight, DMZ Chan. (all laughing). I don't know, I like it. But I agree, though. It's like, just change the pillow, whatever. - Put it under the covers, too. Like there's so many- - Tuck it in! - There are so many immediate solutions. Like sometimes someone vents to you, and they're like, "I just wanna vent. "I don't need solutions.". But sometimes you hear it and you're like,
damn, I guess you could just not do that. at work anymore, huh? Like, this is one of those moments. where you're like, just tuck it under the, tuck it under. - It's a pillow. - It's a pillow. - It's a pillow, dude. - Yeah. - It's DMZ Chan. - You named it, is the problem. It's why you can't eat it now. - Yeah, now it's a person. (all laughing). - Farm rules. - Mm-hmm. - Update. (Tommy gasps). Quick little update. - Whoa. - They found a hat that brought it to life. Like Frosty. (all laughing). - They come home, and just like yeah! (all laugh).
- Well, someone's gonna have to kill it. - And the mother is dead, and they're like, oh my god! She's like dancing on it. - Boof! - All right. "Sweet bees, this blew up.". They wrote that. "Sweet bees, this blew up. "Was not expecting all the attention. "Just wanted to say thank you to everyone for chiming in. "I admit I was being stubborn. "I drove over to Target on my lunch break. "and bought a new cover for 10 bucks. "I put it on DMZ Chan as soon as I got home. "To those asking, I did wash her. "after fishing her out of the attic, "and I am now waiting on hubby to get home.
"so I can apologize for making him uncomfortable. "DMZ Chan shall live it in our hearts. "and under the blanket when company's over.". Well, they're gonna come home one day, and DMZ Chan's gonna be outta the cover, and every time they put the cover on, then she's gonna be back out of it. She's the new Annabelle. (Emily laughs). - I love her. - Come home. - From the makers of "The Conjuring", DMZ Chan. (all laugh). - Yeah! - And also she's a nun. - Oh? - I thought this one was, it was shocking, but it was like- - Two. - A mild shocking, yeah. - Two out of 10.
- I think the title was the most shocking part of it. - [Tommy] Yeah. - And the name that they chose for-. - Yeah. - That's wild. That's the crazy to that one. - That was part the most shocking thing. - Yeah, we're dipping our toes in the shock water. - We're, yeah. There you go. Electric eel infested water. - Yeah. - Yeah. - [Shane] Okay. - Thank god I was here to answer. all your body pillow related questions. Can't wait for the comments. - We thank you for it. Okay. Our next story. This is an Am I the Asshole post. "Am I the asshole for locking my girlfriend. "out of the basement so I could eat in peace? "I am 39 and male.
"My girlfriend is 41. "We have lived together for a bit over a year in my house. "During the time that I've lived with my girlfriend, "I've become very used to the fact. "that she really seems to de-stress by complaining. "Much of this complaining is about other people in her life, "such as her mother and her former coworkers, "but much of this complaining is about me. "and how I'm not meeting her expectations. "in one way or another. "I'm generally fine listening to her rant, "and will make all the appropriate motions. "to show that I'm listening, "but a few months back, her complaining increased. "significantly in frequency. "Again, I'm happy to listen to her,
"but the one time that I do not wanna listen. "to complaining is when I'm eating. "Breakfast time isn't an issue. "because she's still asleep when I eat it, "and lunchtime is fine because I work six days a week. "and I'm out for lunch. "But I would really love nothing more. "than to just have a quiet dinner. "It's especially irritating. "because she gets upset when I don't answer her fast enough. "Even when I'm chewing, she'll start saying, "'Hello, hello, hello? "'Are you even listening?'. "As I try to swallow the food quickly and answer her. "I expressed this to her a few months back. "I put it as nicely as possible with the excuse. "that I don't do well with talking during mealtime.
"If anything, it had the opposite effect. "I'm convinced that she's actually timing her complaints. "to begin when I start eating dinner now. "While I'm making my dinner, she'll be quiet, "and when I sit down waiting for it to cool, "she'll be quiet. "But once the fork reaches my mouth, "she'll immediately start complaining. "Last Saturday, I told her that I couldn't deal. "with her complaining during dinnertime anymore, "and that if she did it again, "I would start eating elsewhere. "She responded, 'Yeah, okay fine.'. "Then she sat down at the table and stared at me. "When I took my first bite, she said, 'Oh, by the way, "'today you kicked one of my shoes.
"'when you were putting yours on. "'It made me feel like you only care. "'about your own things and not mine.'. "I stood up and went down to the basement to eat, "locking the door behind me. "I've taken to doing this for every day since, "and she'll bang on the door at times. "At other times she has demanded I give her a key. "as I have the only copy. "Today she was literally crying and begging me to eat dinner. "at the table, but I said no. "Now she's threatening to take the door off its hinges. "while I'm at work, so I know I have to lock it. "from the outside before going tomorrow. "Am I in the wrong here?".
- Okay, I just, by the way, imagine when she's banging on the door. Toni Collette in "Hereditary". doing like the- (all laugh). (imitates banging on door). - I am your mother! That's so controlling. Like, that's intentional. - Yeah. What also shocks me is when I, I've met couples, or when I hear about couples. where I'm like, why do you, you guys-. - You guys hate each other? - You hate each other so much. Why are you together? - Right. I believe maybe she was talking sometimes,
and not complaining. Every time he says that she's speaking at all, it's complaining. - Yes. - So. - That's a good point. - You know? - So it's like, can we trust this author? - Unreliable narrator, yeah. - Untrustworthy narrator, but it's one of those where I'm like, I don't really care who's the asshole in this situation, because you both just sound like you hate each other. - Yeah. - So why are you together? Like- - Yeah. - I'm not gonna, she sounds like an asshole. from what you're saying, but what- - So do you. - If you're getting to the point. where you're locking yourself in the basement.
to eat-. - To get away from your partner? - To eat dinner, but you eat breakfast and lunch. without your partner, so you wanna have-. - [Tommy] Because she's unconscious. - Have three meals a day without your partner, why are you together? - And it also sounds like, you know, if her thing is whole, like, oh yeah, you kicked my shoe when you were putting your shoe on. Like, it depends on how hard that kick was, but you are living with a person, you are going to affect each other. So, in that way, if this person is reliable, it's almost like neither of them likes the idea. of someone else being in their shared space. - Right. - Yeah.
- So like, why are you with anybody? Like, you don't wanna hear her talk, she doesn't wanna see you move around. (Tommy laughing). I don't know. - This is, "We have lived together for a bit over a year.". It's like, bro. - How cool is the basement, though? - Yeah, that's-. - Probably (beeping) cool. - Yeah, if they got, like, Nintendo games down there. - Yeah. - Okay, the comments. "OP, I hate to break it to you, "but I think you two are on your way to a breakup. "She's not budging on her timing of complaining to you, "and you're not budging on your very valid boundary of it. "Most things can be worked out with a compromise,
"which is what you try to do. "But some things are just deal breakers. "If she continues, will it be a deal breaker for you? "Can't blame you if it is.". This next comment was abbreviated a little bit. This is very long. Someone said, "Oh boy, this is my space, LOL. "I'm a complainer. "I will complain forever. "I know it's because I grew up in a house. "where that was the norm. "My family gatherings are just all the women complaining. "and the men trying to keep themselves out of it. "My boyfriend told me a few months ago. "in that he didn't want to just listen to me complain. "So I don't, because I love him, "and I know it's a horrible, toxic trait that I have.
"At first, I felt resistant. "Why would he not wanna listen if he loves me? "Because complaining sucks. "It sucks joy out of quality time. "It sucks love out of healthy relationships. "The moment I catch myself staring down a rabbit hole. "of rants, I pause, I ask, I shut the hell up. "if it's not a good time. "The crazy thing, I'm happier. "He's happier. "We talk about so many more fun things, "but sometimes I do have to say things like, "is there something you want to talk about? "My brain is busy and I feel like I'm going. "to fill the silence with wasted complaining breaths. "And then we usually end up having excellent conversations.
"that leave me feeling refreshed, connected, "and not like I'm going to punch a tree. "It's way more fun. "Sometimes we simply sit in silence. "It's wild. "If she is completely unwilling to see. "how her behavior is toxic, get the (beeping) out. "There is no reason to be surrounded in such negativity. "There's a time and place for venting, ranting, complaining, "and that time can cannot be always. "It will suck the joy out of you.". - That is a- - That's great. - Person focused on healing. I love that. - Yeah. - That's awesome. - I'd give that a standing ovation. if I ever felt anything. - No, I mean I-.
- Yeah, I'm sitting like this, so I'm not gonna- (Tommy laughs). - I totally agree with it. And yeah, I mean. If I'm this guy, if I put myself in this situation, yeah, you'd break up with this person. What the hell are you doing? Like, if they're consciously making, there's such a difference between oh, they're a complainer, and they complain, to they are purposefully waiting. for the right time to complain to really dig the knife. But if you're getting to the point.
where you're locking yourself in a room. to be away from your partner, then don't be with that person. - That's awful. - Don't do that. - I don't know, I even brought it up earlier. when it's like, oh, when someone rants, and there's nothing you can say, and you're just like, uh-huh, like, that's an easy fix. Like, I have been in that situation before. where it's like someone, it's the only way they can process. And that is really hard to hold space for that constantly. But I think your life can totally change. if both parties are receptive, when someone goes like, "Hey, I definitely want to hear you.
"Like, are you hoping to just vent right now, "or do you want some help with solutions?". - Absolutely. Absolutely. - And that's-. - Right. - It's so helpful. - Totally. - You just go like, what do you need from me right now? - Yeah. - Sounding board, advice. - I wanna give you what you need. I don't wanna make any mistakes with that, you know? - [Shane] Right. - But if somebody like is always just like. vent, vent, vent, vent. And you, that's the answer to the question every time. Like, that's something you can sort of talk about. and be like, you know, is there another way. to go about this? 'Cause I don't feel like I'm helping you. - There's also the very specific factor. that she's complaining about him to him.
- That's tough. - That's a little different. 'Cause complaining is usually about something-. - Work, or- - Like I'm venting. about something- - Or mom, or-. - But to say something directly to someone isn't, that's not complaining. You're criticizing that person. They can't just be unaffected by it, you know? - [Damien] Right. - That's a little, that's a different category for me. And so this is wild. I've never seen two people who hate each other this much. that are, for some reason, sticking around. - I think they need a body pillow. (Damien gasps) (Emily laughing).
- Well, I think I know one that just became available. - Hell yeah. (all laughing). - Okay. This next story, the title is, it might be the most shocking thing so far. - [Tommy] Okay. - We haven't been doing the DDR thing. - Oh yeah, what was the first one? - We gave the first one like a two-. - Wild! - Okay, first one was wild. What was that second one? The second one I think was-. - That was more of like a four. - I think a four. - Or a five. - Shocking just at the situation. - Yeah. - Yeah. Yeah, I would say. - And what was the- - Crazy! - Okay. (all laugh). - All right. Our next story, this title, I think,
might be the most shocking thing so far. - Okay. - It comes from Today I (beeping) Up. "Today I (beeping) up by making a Lego butt plug.". - I literally was just joking about Legos, but now butt plugs. ♪ No, no, no ♪. - Oh, I just thought about it, sorry. Sensory. ♪ No, no, no, no ♪. The little pegs on top. (Shane laughing). The corners on the side. - Everything about this is so funny, man. - Oh no. - Dude. - Well, I know stepping on a Lego hurts-. - [Shane] Okay, okay guys. - And I know suppositories aren't fun. - What if it falls apart inside? - It will. - I think this is, I think this is gonna,
I think this is gonna, the shock meter will be going up. - Like a pine cone to the gooch. - Here we go. "When I was 13 to 14-" (Tommy laughs). "And I didn't-" - Right. - "When I was 13 to 14 and I didn't know how to masturbate, "I'm a guy, and I used to put objects. "in my ass for pleasure. "It began with pens, marbles, et cetera-". (all laughing). - I'm so sorry. I wanna be respectful, but I'm trying. so hard to keep a straight face. - Marbles! (all laughing). "It began with pens, marbles, et cetera.
"I really wanted a butt plug, "but my mom regularly checked my online purchases, "and there was no way I was going to a physical sex shop. "I used to have a huge box of Lego in my room, "so I figured that was what I would go on. "to make my DIY butt toys with. "I made some long cylinder shapes. "that I would put up my butt, an oil container. "that I would put cooking oil in and use as lube, "and the most important, the butt plug. "I used a ball shaped Lego part that was supposed. "to be a rock and a circular part for the base.
"I even put glitter glue under the base. "to make it feel more real. "Now I had learned from my previous mistakes. "when I almost lost a marble up my ass.". (all laughing). - I know how to get it out. Thung! (Shane laughing). - Yeah, reverse Heimlich. To the back. Thunk! - Thunk! And it's like, shoo-tung! And then the other kid playing. is like, "Dang it!". - Damn! (all laughing). Just cutting to a cop with a kid down on the ground, and like five holes in the wall, like, "What do you think happened here, Jim?". Well. - It starts the Rube Goldberg machine.
(all laughing). Okay, okay. - Drinky bird and everything. - Okay. Uh. "Now, I had learned from my previous mistakes. "when I almost lost a marble up my ass, "so I secured the base so that it wouldn't fall off. "I used to have this plug in all the time, "for when going to parties, the beach, "or walks, et cetera. "And the night before summer break in seventh grade, "I was having a shower and had left the plug. "laying in my pants on the floor. "Suddenly my mom barges into the bathroom. "and says something that I don't remember,
"then she looks at my pants on the floor, "obviously seeing the butt plug, "and awkwardly tells me to remember. "to pick my pants up. "I went to bed immediately after the shower, "embarrassed as hell, and the next morning, "I destroyed my butt plug. "and every other Lego butt toy that I had made. "After that day, my family started telling me. "from time to time that they support me. "for whoever I am and what gender I love, et cetera. "They had barely ever talked about that before. "I was not gay, and I still am not.". Okay, we have a, um-. (all laughing).
- Was that the end of the story? - That's the end of that story, but I feel we should put this update. "An update. "I created a Brick IO representation. "of what it looks like.". - No. (all laughing). - Now. (Shane laughing). Jesus Christ. No. - This looks like someone put a sausage. inside an apple. (all laughing). But it's ready to launch into space.
- I was gonna say, that's like something. out of "Blade Runner". - There's edges on the rock part. - Yeah, it's, now my question, too, well, I've got a thousand. (Tommy laughs). The one I'll start- - The only question. - The only question I have, the thing I'll start with is, like, okay. That right there is on the ground on pants. Mom barges in and is just like, "Don't forget. "your penis," or whatever she yelled to her son, and then looks at the pants, looks back up,
and says, "Remember to pick up your pants.". The mother like bursts in, looks at that, and clocks like, you know, "Hi son," whatever. My son made a butt plug out of Legos. "Anyway, don't forget your pants.". Click. - Yeah. - Like, I'm like, I don't know what that is now. - 'Cause she's busy complaining. - About a body pillow. - Yeah. - We need to keep stacking. - Yeah, yeah. - Like a Lego. - We only have two comments. Someone said, "I'm the one who decided to open Reddit today. "It is my fault.". Someone else said, "Batman couldn't get this out of me.". - Batman could get this, I'm sorry. (Shane laughing).
He's a really good detective. - He could kick you really hard. and it would come out. - So hard. - Boo! (blows raspberry). (Shane laughing). - Let's see where you can get. that butt plug in here. (all laughing). - Someone said, "So, did you manage to find a girl. "who is into peg-o?". (all laughing) - Wow. - There it is. - Uh, I feel. I'm like, do I need to talk about butt plugs? - I talked about the body pillows, Tommy. - Let the expert handle this one! - We're both here for a reason. (both laughing).
They cast us both. - I'm gonna puke. - No, I mean- (all laughing). - Yeah, that would hurt. That's crazy. - Lego ideas is probably developing something. - Yeah, they made the bonsai tree. - They made the bonsai tree. - Now they're like- - Butt plugs. (Shane laughs). - They have Lego Tech-Neck, or whatever it used to be, where you could turn the wheel. Yeah, Bioncles. The new Mateo, or whatever. - I'm shocked this shit didn't break apart in his ass. - Absolutely.
- Shocked. - He's walking around, he's going to the beach with this? - Yeah. It's hit by one wave. - One wrong sneeze, and it's going-. - A thing that shocks me that I've heard about a lot. is when doctors talk about the amount of things. that people put up their butt. - Yup. - Like just all sorts of crazy stuff. I mean, marbles? I'm like, dude. That's not smart. - No. - Like as you said, there's nothing wrong with butt toys, but be safe. Don't put things up there that aren't gonna come back out. - He was smart to have a base on it. - He constructed this well. - Yeah.
- But. - But. - Yeah, shocking scale. That was-. - Shocking scale, I'm gonna say eight or nine. - Yeah. - That was a lot. - It was pretty wild. - What's your? - Whoa, you're losing it! (all laughing). - Up your ass! - Up your ass! - Okay. - Owie! - This next story comes from the Two Hot Takes Subreddit, so shoutout to Morgan over at Two Hot Takes. - Morgy. - We're big fans. "My boyfriend gave me a pros and cons list.
"about me as part of our anniversary present.". - Oh. - Wow. (all laughing). - That's stellar. - Whoo. - Mm-hmm. - Uh, happy anniversary? You don't do the dishes. (both laugh). - I have some notes. - Okay. - Great first year. Oreo. (Shane laughs). - "I met my boyfriend on Tinder. "in the beginning of my freshman year of college. "I was a very naive 18-year-old. "I had been on dates, but I had never. "been in a relationship, and I hadn't even. "had my first kiss yet.
"I was pretty miserable my first couple of weeks. "after moving in, and so I got Tinder, "and there I matched with a bunch of guys. "who went to my school. "One of them I thought was pretty attractive. "He was a junior and a brother in a good. "but notorious frat. "He told me to come to his frat parties, "so I went with some girls I had met at orientation. "There he took me upstairs, and we made out, "but I think he could tell I was very inexperienced, "so nothing more happened. "I pretty much fell in love with him, "even though we'd said about three words to each other. "I didn't see him until a couple of weeks later. "when he invited me to a party he was throwing.
"I was expecting us to at least hook up, "but when we got there, he was clearly with another girl, "and there were tons of other random girls. "who I assumed he was also hooking up with. "I was naive, but not an idiot, "so I forced myself to get over it, "and I didn't see him until my spring semester, "when I drank too much, and he ended up at my dorm, "and I lost my virginity to him. "I didn't see him again until the fall semester. "of my sophomore year. "We hooked up the first week we were back on campus. "I still didn't catch feelings again though. "until we started to hook up regularly every week. "At that point, I was again pretty much in love with him,
"although this time I did have reasons. "beyond just him being a large attractive popular man. "We weren't dating, but we got to know each other, "and I saw his many virtues. "However, it was still clear to me that he wasn't. "into me in that way, and that I was one of a number. "of women he was sleeping with, so I didn't say anything. "and I kept it casual. "He also had a pretty terrible reputation. "as a (beeping) boy, even amongst his frat brothers. "His Instagram comments were usually filled with them. "saying things like, 'Horniest man alive,'. "and 'All 2,500 of his followers are his girlfriends.'.
"He graduated at the end of that spring semester. "and we saw each other one last time before. "It was incredibly intimate and really cemented. "everything I felt for him. "So after we both left campus, I confessed to him. "that I really liked him, and that I wasn't okay. "with just hooking up with him anymore. "for my own sanity. "Miraculously, he said he also had feelings for me. "and he asked me out on a real date. "We started dating and have been together since, "and the whole time has been healthy and happy for us. "Last Thursday was our one year anniversary. "of becoming official.
"He got me an incredibly thoughtful gift basket, "including some jewelry, a painting, and a card. "In the card, though, was a printed picture. "of a pros and cons list on a whiteboard. "He explained to me that he saw my confessional message. "when he was hanging out with his brother. "My boyfriend said he really didn't know what to do, "and wasn't sure if he wanted anything more with me, "but he was tired of sleeping around. "and wanted a stable relationship, "so his brother said he should make a pros and cons list. "of me, and he did. "Here's a paraphrase of the list.
"'Pros, cute, great ass, good in bed, horny, "'likes me a lot, sweet, lots of friends, "'doesn't go out too much, close to her family, "'really smart and academically successful, "'good future ahead of her, and definitely not. "'a gold digger, would do wifey duties. "'Cons. "'Kind of a slut, met on Tinder, frat rat, "'blacks out a lot, doesn't care a lot about her appearance, "'kind of nerdy.'. "Based on that, he apparently decided to ask me out. "to dinner, and then decided what to do. "based on how it went, and it went well enough.
"that we started dating. "He showed it to me with nothing but good intentions, "but I was absolutely floored for obvious reasons. "I have been pretending to be sick since then. "as I figure out what to do. "On the one hand, he is my dream man, "and I am so glad to be with him. "He has been nothing but incredible to me, "and we have a great relationship, "and logically, I know that he wasn't in love with me. "or anything when he asked me out, "as I'm sure he had some idea of how I felt, "and he never did anything about it. "But it still hurts to think that his feelings. "towards me were so ambivalent.
"that he needed a goddam pros and cons list. "to just ask me out. "I can't really talk about this to anyone in my life, "as a lot of them already dislike him, "and I don't want to bias them any more, "so I thought I would ask here, "what could I possibly do? "I like to think that I have more self respect than this, "but I really love him and don't wanna cause conflict. "in our relationship over something he definitely. "didn't think would hurt me.". - I love that it was like him trying to buy. the right Kia Optima, or something. (Damien laughs). He was like, good airbags, great mileage.
- Awesome ass. - Awesome ass. - Like the Kia. - Holy shit, man. - Yeah. - To then be like, yeah, I can't show it to my friends, 'cause none of them like him. And I'm just like, I wonder why? - Huh. - Mm-hmm. - Well that's strange. - It's like, oh he's your dream man, but your dream man decided to be with you. because he wanted to settle down and you were right there? - Yeah, well it's time. I don't know, it's hard because clearly. this person is so young, and it's the kinda thing. where they're gonna look back five years from now, hopefully less, and be like, oh my god,
what was I thinking? But it's those kind of lessons you need to learn. There's all sorts of things where she has just been. emotionally tied to this person, and he's been kind of her only source. of any kind of physical romance. - Right. - So like, it's natural to feel that way. Like my first relationship in college, I was a freshman, she was a senior, and when she graduated and moved away, I had that thought of like, damn, am I supposed to ask her to marry me? Like, this could be it. I feel emotions for the first time. And it's like, no (beeping). You've been in a relationship for three months, and you're gonna meet other people.
But you have that feeling. So I just, I feel bad for this person. - Yeah. Yeah, there's definitely a naivety. I do feel bad for her. God. For him to then give it to her. - That's crazy. - As a gift, and be like, look. I decided to date you. - I looked past all this stuff. - It's like, holy shit. That means he's like standing by. what he wrote on that whiteboard. - Yeah. - He's like, yeah, so like, even though you're kind of a slut.
- That's the big one for me, too. - It's crazy. - He's known as the horniest man alive. among all of his frat bros, but he's like, yo, she's kind of a slut. I'm like, great. Why don't you both be then? - It's that thing that you always say. of like, you're young. Why are you, what are we doing? - No, if someone disrespects, I mean, they could disrespect you half as much as this, and it'd be worth leaving. It's like yeah, you're 22. Don't, don't. - Don't do this. - Don't. - Yeah. - Don't. You're gonna trust that this guy's gonna change? Eh.
- Maybe, but not with you. - Not with you, and probably not anytime soon. - [Damien] No. - Like that, with that that blatant of behavior? - Yeah. - No, this guy's a mess. And he's only gotten affirmation to act like this. for so long. He has been conditioned to be this way so hardcore. that one person is not gonna change it. - [Tommy] No. - He's not gonna probably change. until late 20s, early 30s, at best. - Yeah, I'm like, I see a 40-year-old man. being like, damn. That was crazy. - It's possible he'll keep getting away with this. - [Both] He can't keep getting away with this!
(all laughing). - Yeah. - Yeah! (beeping). - No, this is insane. Bunch of comments. "Yet you were a virgin the first time you guys had sex? "Yeah, that sounds like a real slut to me.". (Tommy laughs). I mean, that's what's also kinda confusing. - Right. - It's like, none of this tracks. Someone said, "These dudes invite these girls. "to their parties and then call them frat rats. "Jeez.". Someone said, "Boy math.". - Yeah. - Someone said, "My daughter's boyfriend once gave her. "a list of her cons. "She was heartbroken. "I'll tell you what I told her. "No matter what you did in the past,
"you deserve better in the future. "Thankfully she listened to me, "and 10 years later, she has a fantastic husband. "with two children. "I don't even know you, and I can honestly say. "that you not only deserve someone better, "but that you're too good for him. "There's no excuse for giving lists out. "unless everything on it is good, "especially for an anniversary gift.". Lastly, someone said, "Yikes on bikes. "This story is nothing but red flags. "You need to get some self love, 'cause the bar you have. "is literally down in hell.". - And they brought a shovel. - Yeah. - All right, do we like yikes on bikes.
or sweet bees better? - I actually kinda like them both. - Sweet bees is awesome. - I really like- - Sweet bees! Well, sweet bees! - Yikes on bikes! - Oh honey buns. I kinda like 'em both. I know I said that earlier, but I say stuff like that all the time. Like, oh beans. Like, aw, biscuits. - Yeah. - I like cute curses. - Cute curses. - What would you do, okay. Hypothetical here. - Okay. - If you found a pros and cons list. that a partner made for you. - Okay. - How would you handle that?
Like now- - Found? - Obviously if they give, yeah. 'Cause if they give you this as an anniversary gift, I think that's (beeping) crazy. - That's nuts. - Right. - (sighs) I don't think there's anything, the problem is a pros and cons list. is always fine, but it's the things he's writing. that are super disrespectful and insane. - Yeah. It's very judgmental, because like-. - Yeah. - When it comes to cons, like, it's never gonna feel good, but I love communication. When you're dating somebody, or you're with a partner,
it's like, hey, sometimes I've noticed. when you say this thing, it sounds kinda like this. Is that what you're meaning, or is there something I can do better? Like, that stuff is not easy, but it's so workable, and can both be. so comfortable and happy. when you find that right level of communication, but him just being like, slut. Frat rat. Like, all these things, it's huge judgments on her as a person, and being like, kinda nerdy, like will do wifely duties. This is all objectifying in a really gross way.
- All of it. Literally all of it, 'cause even academically successful, it's not like oh, she has this cool dream. and she really goes for it. It's like, it's all about her achievements. - Yeah. - It's all objectifying. - It's the math of it. There's no soul involved. - Also a con is- - She'll be good at math. while she's cleaning. - One of his cons is met on Tinder? It's like, the? - [Emily] You were also there! - You were there too! No, this reeks of like the worst kind of misogyny. that is just, it's just not worth trying to fix. - It also, I feel like a pros and cons list.
is something that you can do as a self exercise. if you're at a spot where it's like. am I about to end this? - Right. - Like, if you're deeply confused. and you need to write out what you need, that's a personal thing that you can do. - To write out a pros and cons list. in order to decide if you're gonna date someone. is, I think, a little bit weird. - Crazy. - Yeah. - Yes. - Yeah, yeah. - That's like an end of. - Yes. - It's like the last straw, kind of like, well, let me see what it's worth. - And those pros and cons need to be. like detailed, specific things.
- Right. - Not great ass. - Yeah. Dude. Well, she's got bangin' baps. (Shane laughs). She does eat my family's heirlooms as a joke. - Really good with Legos. - So good with Legos. Body pillow connoisseur. - Okay. Update. This is a big- - And I love that. - Big update. - Please be single. - And I love that. - Learn how to be single. - All right, yeah please. Okay. "Everyone's comments were a real wake-up call. "I did already realize at least somewhat.
"that the entire time we'd known each other. "before dating, he had treated me like crap, "but I justified being with him by saying. "that he'd change because I'd won him. "But the pros and cons list made me realize really. "just how little he thought of me, "and giving it to me made me think. "that he still felt the same way towards me. "It also made me realize that in his mind, "he was settling for me, and that he probably. "only really liked me for the things I did for him. "I also realized that although that was fine for a little, "he is really hot, to be honest, "I definitely didn't want to have kids.
"or spend the rest of my life with a man. "who didn't actually like or respect me. "I also did make my own list as some of the comments said, "which made me realize how much I was willing to overlook. "for an attractive man. "I would never give it to him. "because even though a lot of people seem to think. "I don't really love him, I do care about him a lot. "for some reason and would never do anything to hurt him, "but here's the list. "Pros.". - (laughing) Yes! Yes! - Awesome. (all laughing). - "Pros. "Six two, big, attractive, popular,
"good job and makes a lot of money, "close to family, can be sweet, "pays for things, submissive. "Cons"-. - Well, that was a hard left turn. - I know, that last one. That might be the biggest shock-. - Six five with blue eyes. Finance. (all laugh). - "Cons, NPC.". (all laugh) - Whoo! - That's crazy work. "Has no hobbies or interests, drinks a lot, "clearly doesn't respect me, kind of stupid, "not interesting, hardly an intellectual, "not well-read, don't have a lot to talk about together,
"friends don't like him, not good in bed.". Damn, okay. "My list made me realize that not only. "does he kind of have nothing going for him, "but being with him also reflects pretty terribly. "on myself and my values. "I'm not really ashamed of myself because I met him. "when I was 18, but I hope I will not be. "this shallow of a person for my whole life, "so I broke up with him this morning over coffee. "He wasn't really upset, and was just kinda like, "'Damn, okay.". (all laughing). - Right. Exactly. - We cannot be surprised.
- Does that mean we can't bone no more? - Oh damn. - He was just like, "Okay.". (both laughing). - NPC. - "He did try to convince me to stay, "but I was firm, and we are officially broken up. "I blocked him on everything because I have no self-respect. "when it comes to him, and I have no doubt. "he would try to booty call me soon if I didn't. "My friends are all actually thrilled, "and are hosting a party for me tonight.". (Tommy laughs). - God damn. - They're so happy they're throwing (beeping) party. - They hate that guy. - That's awesome. - "My family was also pretty relieved. "They didn't hate him, but they thought. "he was really stupid, and I think they're happy.
"I won't be polluting the family lineage. "with idiocy on that level. "So thank you everyone for the wake-up call. "I guess I will see how adult life without him in it goes.". I love how all of her cons were just like, he's dumb. - I'm like, you are padding the list a little bit. There was five sort of synonyms there. - Kind of stupid. - Kinda stupid, not interesting, hardly an intellectual, not well-read. Yeah, it's, yeah. - He's dumb. - NPC is- - That's crazy. - Savage. - That's pretty devastating. - [Tommy] That's hard. - To be fair, he's always like, "Gray man or battle born?
"Have you been to the Cloud District?". (all laughing). - Oh man. - Wow. - Wow. - Good for her. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Thank goodness that ended the right way. - That was- - Love that. - That was condensed. I was like, I hope she learns soon how to be single. Just, mm! (Tommy makes whoosh sound). What a satisfying once, yeah right? - Yeah. - Whoo. - Damn sucks. - Just 'cause they're pretty don't mean that they're good. Shock scale? - Um. That was like an eight. There were parts of it were like an eight.
- Parts of it, I'd say parts. Seven, eight. - So the fact that he gave that to her. - That's the part. - I also think that it's, look, they're young, and I forget what it's like. when you're that age, but like shocking that she. tolerated this, and was like, he can be sweet sometimes. I'm like, you're talking about a guy. who's actively just like, you're kind of a slut. - I think every person can be sweet sometimes. That's not really a quality. - Yeah. - That's not a quality. If you're putting a sometimes in there, you need to start, you need to question that sometimes. - It's wild, 'cause like, I have so many conversations with friends. where they're going through stuff,
or maybe they start seeing somebody, and they're like, I don't know how I feel yet. And 99% of the time, it's like, I don't know, but like, they listen to me when I talk, and they enjoy my company. And I'm like, that's bare minimum. - That's the base level. - That's bare minimum! What did you have before? And you know. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah. Yeah, it should never be like, oh, well occasionally this thing happens. It's like, no, that should be the norm. - [Tommy] That should be the norm. - It should be a flat out they are this way. - Yeah. - And it should be out of character.
- Right. - That they don't do that. - Right. - Can we get a DDR? - Oh, oh! Whoa! - Is that a real one? - No. I'm running out. - Okay. You're running out. - I'm running out. - That was an eight? - I would say like a seven. - Okay. - That was a seven? - You're the most, well I'm losing the plot here, where it's like, what is it, like, wow perfect, when it's a 10, or is it like, uh-oh! You're bad! - You made this scale. - You did it. - Uh, uh. (all laughing). - Help, help! - I've had this dream!
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"Today I (beeping) up by not telling my doctor. "how many Tic Tacs I eat per day.". - Oh. - Okay. - Hmm. - Orally? - Yeah, I was, Tommy. I was literally thinking in what orifice? And are they Legos? (both laugh). - Tic Tac Lego. - "So I'm absolutely (beeping) obsessed. "with the fruit adventure flavor of Tic Tacs. "The flavor combined with the soft smoosh. "they make between your teeth when you chew them. "makes my brain very happy. "I've been buying them in bulk, "where each container has 200 candies each,
"and they come in bulk packs of 12 containers. "I tend to eat them by the handful. "while I'm working or gaming, "so in a day, I can easily slam through. "one to two containers. "Now, keep in mind that on the nutritional label, "it says the serving size is one candy, "and is listed as having zero calories, "which I thought was awesome because I could have. "as many as I want.". - That's not how that works. (Emily laughing). - That's 400 candies, for anyone keeping track at home. (Tommy laughing).
- "Over the past year, I found that I gained. "about 40 pounds, and nothing about my eating habits. "had changed as far as I was aware. "I told my doctor about it, and she was a bit worried, "so she had me do a bunch of blood work. "to see if there was a reason why I gained. "so much weight in a short period of time. "Everything came back normal. "She referred me to see a weight loss doctor. "who would also have me see a dietician. "I have been working with the dietician. "for a few months now, and we have me keep a food log. "I had a virtual visit with her today, "and during it, I was fiddling around.
"with an empty container to keep my hands busy. "She saw it and asked where I got. "such a large container from, "so I told her about it and how I eat. "one to two of those per day. "She asked me why those weren't on my food tracker, "and I said it was because they're zero calories, "so they wouldn't count. "Apparently I was very, very wrong about this. "She explained to me that food companies. "can label something as being zero calories. "if the food serving size contains five or less calories. "In reality, each individual Tic Tac. "actually has about two calories,
"so essentially, since each container has. "200 pieces, and I typically have one to two of those, "I've been eating 400 to 800 plus calories per day. "of Tic Tacs." - Right. - Also that's four grams per carb usually, right? So that's all sugar for the most part, so if that's 800, that's 100 grams of sugar. per day, (beeping). What are you? - That's crazy. - Sorry. (Tommy laughs). - "In addition to all the other food I've been eating, "which is very likely why I've gained so much weight.". Yeah, it's like a very, like no fiber, all sugar, like it's just really bad for you.
- Yeah. - Yeah. - Ooh. - This reminds me of the Bowe tradition of a spray butter. We're like, zero calories! (imitates spray bottle). - Oh really? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, and it's like one third of the spray. - Smart Balance spray butter. Yeah. - Yeah. - It does speak to the- - 20,000 servings per-. - It does speak to the sliminess. of the food industry, where they can mislabel things. Like, I still always hate how sugar. doesn't have to show the daily percentage. - [Tommy] Right. - Like that's the one that they get to skate by, and I'm like, that's the one you need the most. - Right. - Yeah. - 'Cause if they showed it, you'd realize,
like a can of Coke is 70% of your-. - It's like 58 grams of sugar, which is nuts. - It's insane, man. But them listing it as zero calories. is just a blatant lie. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like, each one is two calories. Now that's taken, as most people eat Tic Tacs, it's nothing. - Right. - Now-. - But it's still important to know. - When I was a kid, we used to go. on family bike rides all the time, and sometimes we would stop by a store on the way back, maybe an ice cream shop, but usually like, oh, we gotta pick something up from K-Mart, or whatever. So sometimes I would be allowed to get.
one of those containers of orange Tic Tacs. So good. Like, even the sensory thing he described. So good. Those would not last particularly long. So I understand how easy it is to shovel through them. But the factor for me that's like, oh yeah, you screwed up, is like, you're going to see a dietician. Like, even if you think it's zero calories, be like, oh, you'd be so proud of me actually, because all of my candy consumption. is this zero calorie thing. - Yeah. - Like, be wrong, but to be that wrong for that long. and not even question, like I don't know.
- Yeah, because if you're putting in time and money. - Yeah. - Into something. You might as well, it's kinda like. if you go to see a therapist, and you're not gonna tell them, like-. - Right, your dad trauma. - What's really going on. Yeah, it's like, no you're paying for this. Or you're putting it into your healthcare, or your health insurance, like use it. Like really tell them, because there's no, any information you could give them is good information. - It's also maybe not her fault. (laughing).
'Cause like, she didn't know, you know? - No, I mean, I'm not-. - It's like, she didn't know about the calorie thing. - Like I said, that's the sliminess of the food industry. - [Tommy] Right, exactly. - They say that it's zero calories, that's a lie. - Right, so she got- - But-. - She got scammed. - You are putting something in your mouth. Like, if I'm going to a dietician for whatever reason, I would tell them oh, I chew gum. Like, I would tell them anything. I would tell them how much water I'm drinking. Like, you feel like you would just let them know-. - [Damien] You would. - The doctor's clocking a real thing. that is a real worry, which is without,
my diet has not changed, but suddenly I gained. 40 pounds in the span of a year. That could be a real thing. That happens to people. - Right. - And that could be a very dangerous thing, like-. - Right, it could-. - What is going on in your system? - There's a medical thing that's happening. - So if I'm that person, I'd be scared, and I'd be like, I wanna give you all the information I can. - Yeah. - Yeah. - The reality is they now, the information's out there. - [Tommy] So they stopped? - And the reality is too that this is good news. that oh, it was that you were eating a bunch of Tic Tacs. - There's a direct cause. - So you're not, there's not an issue.
with your thyroid, or whatever it is that causes that. Like, this is good news. - Right. - You know? - Yeah, I'm just surprised they're not. pre-diabetic, even. Like that's great. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Comments. Someone said, "Bro ate 40 pounds of Tic Tacs.". Someone said, "Tic Tacs are small enough. "to legally be labeled sugar free. "even though they're almost pure sugar.". Someone said, "I just finished a diploma. "in the medical field. "We were warned about people like you, OP. "I wish I was joking.". - Damn. - They told tales of people like you.
- I will say I have read a lot on Reddit. of stories of how misinformed. and uninformed people are, and that's, I think it's on purpose. I think it's on purpose so that companies. can sell people things. - Of course. - It kind of reminds me of when it's sugary cereals, and it's like, it's a healthy part of a balanced breakfast. And the balanced breakfast is like toast, oatmeal, fruit. It's like, you can put the cereal away. - Yeah. (laughing). - That's not breakfast. - It's an entire breakfast without it. - Yeah. - Like a green salad, and you're like, oh it's a part of a nutritional meal.
- I ate almost a whole container of Tums once. - That's great. - Have you pooped yet? - They were delicious. I was in middle school. - Have you pooped yet? It's a whole container of Tums. - We're building it up. - Okay. - We're holding onto it. - Real corked up. (Tommy laughs). - Lastly someone said, "Honestly, it's all. "critical thinking. "I don't care what the (beeping) someone eats. "If you are slamming 200 to 400. "of literally (beeping) anything. "and feel a significant change in your health, "then first thing you should question. "is that thing you are over-consuming. "First rule of eating, eat anything in moderation. "Too much of anything is bad for you.".
- Being as generous as possible with this, like, you don't know somebody's upbringing. Someone can really lack all possible. nutritional information for themselves. I would like to think that yes, if you were chugging. 400 of anything, you might think of that. as a clue for something, but like, (sighs). I'm glad they're getting healthy, supposedly. - Yeah. They know now, which is the good news. - Yeah. And again, just wanna be super clear here, like, not shaming anybody. - Right. - I know none of us are.
Some people are naturally on the bigger side. That happens, that's fine. Gaining 40 pounds through sugar consumption is dangerous. - Yeah. - So. - Totally. Totally. - Yeah. - Should we shock factor? - Yeah, what was our shock factor on that? I think that wasn't as shocking. - Five, four. - I think it's like a five. It was just like, okay. - Go take a nap! (Emily laughing). - I also am curious, I wanna see these 200, or these big containers of Tic Tacs. - Should we order some bulk-. - Are they like- - Just to see? - Because they must be bigger. I've only seen the little tiny guys. - [Damien] Yeah. - Okay. - You know what sucks too about Tic Tacs? - [Shane] What?
- I don't know if they changed it, but when I was a kid, there would be two. that would be like side by side toward the end. where they just get stuck, side by side. - [Tommy] Stuck at the bottom, yeah. - You're like, (trilling tongue). and you can't get it off. Is anyone working on fixing that, or are we just trying to fix COVID or something? - I don't know. - Well, I know what priority I care about. (Emily laughs). - I've never had the fruit ones. It makes me wanna try some. - You should try being fruity. - What's it like to be you? - I'm gonna try having 200 of them. - There you go. - "I, a 28-year-old woman, found out my husband, "a 29-year-old man, has been telling his coworkers. "that I'm his sister. "What do I do?
"Please help.". - Huh? - Yup. "Throwaway account because I don't use. "or understand Reddit, but I really need advice. "from someone not connected to me or my husband. "My husband, I'll call him Josh, and I have been. "together for six years, married for four, "and we don't have kids. "We have a really healthy and communicative relationship. "We're both pretty easy-going, and I really love him. "He started working at a large accounting firm. "about three years ago, and from what he tells me, "he loves it there. "He's made a lot of friends through his job, "and he goes out with them for drinks. "and social events quite often,
"and I've been totally okay with that. "I'm quite introverted, so I've never been interested. "in meeting his colleagues or work friends, "nor have I asked to. "I've got my own circle of friends, "and I'm fine with us having separate friend groups. "After what happened yesterday, "it only just occurred to me. "that he has never actually asked me. "if I'd like to meet any of them, "or go to one of his work events. "I guess that's important context. "Anyway, I'll start with what happened a few months ago. "that I had brushed off until now. "I was at a bar with some friends. "for a couple of Friday after work drinks, "and a guy approached me.
"He was there with some friends, too. "He looked slightly familiar, but I hadn't met him before. "He seemed friendly enough, and he asked me, "my name, right?". Like her OP's name. "I think I must've given him a confused look, "because he followed up with, 'I'm Jake, I work with Josh.'. "I realized that I recognized him from some photos. "on my husband's phone. "I don't use social media except for a private Instagram, "so I'm not sure if he posted the photos anywhere, "but we've got a very trusting relationship, "so I look in his photos sometimes. "Don't hate me.
"This is where it gets a bit embarrassing. "I'm a bit socially awkward, and so I struggled. "to end the conversation, but he just kept. "talking to me. "I guess he was already a couple of beers deep. "But while he was talking, he said something like, "'It's great that you guys are still so close. "'I haven't talked to my brother in ages.'. "At the time I was like, huh? "But I just assumed he was drunk and not making sense, "so I ignored it. "He started to get a little flirty, "so I turned to my friends, and we left. "shortly after that. "I didn't say anything to them about it, "and it didn't seem like a big deal to me. "I also decided not to tell my husband.
"that I had met his coworker, Jake. "Not to hide it, but because I figured. "the guy wouldn't even remember talking to me, "and I didn't want to make it awkward. "for Josh at work by telling him his colleague. "tried to hit on me. "I just thought no harm no foul. "But yesterday morning, I was out walking our dog, Monty. "He's a cross between a few breeds. "and has very unique markings. "This matters, I promise. "And was on my way to my regular cafe, "which is in town. "I was waiting in line to order, "and the guy in front was an older man. "He got his coffee and turned around, "but stopped at looked at my dog and goes, 'Hello, Monty.'. "Monty was super excited to see him, apparently,
"and so I guessed that the guy was another colleague. "of Josh's, because Josh brings the dog. "to the office a couple times a week. "I thought it was sweet, to be honest, "so I smiled at him and said hi. "He introduced himself. "I guessed correctly that he was a colleague, "but then he said something like, 'Aren't you a good sister, "'walking his dog for him?'. "I was so confused that I didn't even know. "how to react at first, so I stumbled on my words, "and just said, 'It's my dog.'. "I regret it, but I genuinely couldn't bring myself. "to correct him and say that I'm Josh's wife. "and not his sister.
"It was just too awkward, and I just wanted to leave. "because I think it was suddenly dawning on me. "what might have been going on. "He asked me something about sharing a dog, "but I was able to escape the conversation. "by being next in line to order my coffee, "and he left. "I seriously don't know what to do, "because what the (beeping)? "Do I even ask my husband about this? "Part of me just assuming or hoping that it's a mistake, "that he doesn't talk about me much at work. "and they assume we are related. "because we both have brown hair, "but the thought that he has been telling his coworkers.
"that I'm his sister, and evidently, "they have seen what I look like, "so they must've seen photos, "makes my stomach churn. "I don't even know how I would broach. "the subject with him. "I need some help. "What would you guys do in this situation? "I have only told one friend what happened. "because it's so weird and embarrassing, "and she jumped straight to, 'Time to plot his downfall,'. "because she's my ride or die. "Love her. "But I don't want to immediately assume the worst. "or ruin my marriage over something. "that could be nothing. "I'm sorry for the long and rambly post, "but I would really appreciate any and all advice.".
- He's planning on or is currently cheating on you. - You think so? - Yeah. 'Cause otherwise why would you be, it's like, it's a way to be like, oh that lady? Yeah, she's my sister. Not my wife. - Yeah. - So that he can play single at work with the-. - Yeah, it feels like, I can't think of any other explanation. - I cannot think of any other explanation. - This, to me, is such, it's such a made up one. - You think this is made up? - I think this is so false. I think we run into these,
you know, I haven't seen one in a while. that for me was like, ding-a-ding-a-ding, alarm. But this one has so many details. of like, well this guy said it, and it was kind of crazy, and I kinda thought. he was drunk, so I didn't think anything of it, but then I didn't tell it to my husband, because I didn't wanna say that he was hitting on me. - It's too novel-y. - And then the dog thing is, it's too novel-y. And the guy turns around, "Well, hello Monty.". If I saw a dog, I don't care how specific the markings, I'd be like, "I'm so sorry, is this Monty? "Oh my god, Josh brings him into work all the time. "You must be such and such, hi.". But like, "Oh, hello Monty.
"You're his sister.". Like-. (Shane and Tommy laughing). I've never met him for years, I don't know any of his coworkers, then two in one week just happened. at the coffee shop-. - Yeah. - That's really funny. - So good news, you're not being cheated on, because you're not real! (all laughing). - You don't exist. - She's like, "What?". (both make hissing sound). - Yeah. - A couple comments. "Walk up to him and ask directly, "why are you telling your colleagues that I'm your sister? "Sorry, but this is nothing where you beat around the bush.". Someone else said, "I agree. "This is not your shame to own.
"Do not be embarrassed by someone else's actions. "I understand why you may feel that way. "Perhaps in the back of your mind, "you think you should've met with him. "from the beginning. "That's just not the case. "I work remotely. "When I'm in the office and someone sees a picture. "on my phone or something, I make it clear. "that's my partner. "I also don't want anyone getting the idea. "that I'm not attached. "Your husband is asking for trouble in both camps. "This shame is his alone.". - I wish she could pull some prank. where she could be like, "Hey, brother!". Make him go like, wah! - It's unfortunate that my brain goes to.
if it's not revealed that he's cheating, then I think I'd also think it's a fake story. Like, if this has some sort of positive twist, I'm gonna be like, I don't know if this is real. Maybe that's my own messed up biases. - Yeah, you're so messed up. - Yeah. Dude, everything's dark and twisted. From the twisted mind! (all laughing). - Crazy bones are just normal bones. to a twisted freak like me. (all laughing). - Update, and this update has been edited for time, 'cause it's a long one. - All right, let's hear it. - Let's see what's going on.
"Hi, everyone. "I just wanted to say thank you for the overwhelming. "amount of support and advice. "I'm blown away, and it really means a lot, "and has kept me grounded. "I'll just get right into it. "On Saturday morning, I woke up earlier than my husband. "He was very hungover, so he was sleeping like a rock, "but you guys will be proud of me, "because I followed some advice and decided to look. "through his phone properly while he was sleeping. "I have been on his phone so often just pissing around. "on it that I had never thought to check. "anything very deeply. "I know his passcode by heart. "I checked all the expected things, like Instagram DMs, "Facebook Messenger, his iMessages, et cetera,
"and I didn't find anything that set off alarm bells to me, "but I know from some comments that people. "who are cheating are good at covering their tracks. "and hiding messages, so I kept looking around. "I saw he had a folder called, 'Work', "and so I looked in there, and he had a couple. "of Microsoft apps, Outlook, Authenticator, OneNote, "et cetera, but he also had MS Teams, "so I opened that up and had a look around. "It did feel like I might have been breaking laws. "looking at his work messages, but I obviously had to. "Anyway, I was already upset to see that he had. "a bunch of one on one chat with several female coworkers,
"which at first glance is obviously not an issue, "because everyone works with people. "of the opposite gender, and are required. "to communicate with them, but a couple of them. "were vaguely flirty. "Nothing I would call egregious, but there would be. "the occasional message between them. "with some playful innuendo or a wink emoji. "These upset me, obviously, and they did send me. "into a bit of a spiral, but I didn't find anything. "that suggested he was having an out and out affair. "with any of them. "Still, I followed someone's suggestions. "of screenshotting the messages, "and I AirDropped them to myself. "I still wanted some evidence of the lie, though,
"some proof of Josh telling someone. "that I was his sister directly. "A commenter suggested that I go through his messages. "and search for the keyword, 'Sister'. "I wanted to reply to your comment and say thank you. "for the idea, but the post was locked so I couldn't, "but thank you. "So I searched for 'Sis' on MS Teams. "hoping to find results for both sister and sis. "A bunch of messages from all hands group chats. "or one on one chats came up from other people, "all unrelated about their own sisters, or whatever, "but my heart dropped out of my ass LOL. "when I saw there was a direct message from Jake.".
- Shoulda plugged it. (Damien snorting). - You need Legos. (Emily laughing). - Get some Duplos. It's a big one. - "But my heart dropped out of my ass. "when I saw there was a direct message from Jake, "the guy from the bar, to Josh from a Monday. "a few months ago. "Jake's messages said, 'Ran into your sis. "'at the bar on Friday. "'She's single, right?'. "And my husband had the (beeping) gall. "to reply, 'Nah, she's married.'. "I literally almost burst into flames on the spot. "when I saw that. "I can't even describe how much I was shaking. "after reading those messages. "Firstly, that I could've confronted Josh about this.
"months ago, I was and still am so furious. "with myself for that. "Josh would've been (beeping) praying. "I didn't remember meeting Jake, "or that I wouldn't mention it, "and he would've been counting his lucky stars. "that I never did. "He probably thought he was hot shit. "for getting away with that, "and I nearly burnt a hole through the floor. "thinking about it, LOL. "But secondly, I was just in shock. "that he had the balls to tell this guy. "that I'm the one who is married. "because he doesn't want anyone having it on with me, "but he is allowed to coyly flirt. "with every (beeping) woman in the office? "Anyway, I kept going back through the search results.
"on his MS Teams, and eventually I got as far back. "as two-ish years ago, and I did, in fact, "find a message from Josh himself to a group chat. "It said, 'Me and sis in Nusa Dua.'. "I clicked on that and saw that he had sent it. "alongside a bunch of photos of him and I. "from our holiday to Bali. "We went to Bali for our second anniversary. "I thought he probably chose those phots. "because he's shirtless and had been working out. "so he looked hot in all of them. "I was in tears seeing all of this, obviously. "I took screenshots of those too. "and AirDropped all the screenshots to myself. "Needless to say, I was devastated,
"and still am, to see all of that. "I am still struggling to even process it all. "But that all happened on Saturday morning, "and I immediately took myself to my friend's house. "I'll call her Sophie. "I went to her place to cry it out. "and show her what I found, and she was extremely. "supportive, and probably more furious than me, LOL. "At around 1:30 PM, I got a phone call from Josh, "and I hung it up immediately. "He sent me a few messages along the lines of, "'Where are you, baby? "And, 'I'm ordering food, want some?'. "'Sad not to wake up next to you this morning.'. "Sunday morning, I woke up feeling more angry than sad,
"so I opened my phone and finally replied to his messages. "'Coming home now. "'Need to talk.'. "I kept it cryptic to make him squirm, to be honest. "Because I was/am fraught with emotions, "I can't remember the entire conversation. "word for word, but I'll try to replay it. "as best I can. "Long story short, I got home and he tried to hug me, "but I refused him, and we just stood in the kitchen. "I did confront him like someone suggested. "I just said, 'Why have you been telling your coworkers. "'I'm your sister?'. "I wish it would've been like a movie scene. "where the color drained from his face. "or he immediately looked like a deer in headlights,
"but he didn't. "It was like he had been girding himself. "for this confrontation for a while, "because he just frowned at me and looked flabbergasted. "He just said, 'Huh?'. "This made me so angry. "How are you going to pretend to be stupid. "after three years of lying? "I basically said, 'Don't play (beeping) dumb. "'Two of your coworkers have greeted me as your sister, "'and I have proof of you telling them, "'and I know you're pretending to be single.'. "Essentially, I asked him what he had to say for himself. "He still played stupid. "He became moderately defensive, "and just kept saying, 'I don't know. "'what you're talking about',
"or, 'Why would I lie about you?'. "I cannot describe how furious I was at this point, "but I was in tears. "I always cry when I'm angry, "so he was trying to comfort me. "as if I was having some kind of irrational breakdown. "I showed him the screenshot of his message. "saying 'Me and Sis', and I said something like, "'You tell me.'. "He just said, 'I don't know what I'm looking at,'. "and 'I'm confused.'. "I got so angry that I left again. "and went back to Sophie's, because it felt like. "a dead end road. "At like 8:30ish, he called me again and I did pick up. "He basically asked for us to talk,
"and he said he had some things to say, "so I went back to our apartment. "He had written out a bunch of stuff on a piece of paper. "as if he had prepared a speech, "and sat me down on the couch. "He asked me not to say anything. "while he was explaining himself. "I'll write down the gist of what he said in bullet points. "He started by apologizing relentlessly. "and admitting that he pretended to be stupid before. "because he couldn't immediately think. "of something to say for himself. "He said that immediately after he started at his job, "he realized the atmosphere was like a frat house. "All of his team members were men in their 20s and 30s. "that were single and (beeping) boys, his word. "He noticed that the one guy in their team.
"that was married would either get picked on. "or essentially excluded from any. "and all social interactions. "That included getting lunch, inside jokes, "going out on Friday, et cetera. "These guys were friendly and welcoming to Josh, "and he admitted that he was desperate to fit in with them. "He hated feeling like fresh meat, "so he was scared that saying he was married. "would alienate him from his coworkers, "and at first just never mentioned that he was married. "He said he did wear his wedding ring, "and that they had just never pointed it out. "A few months in, they were all out drinking after work.
"He admitted that after one of his work mates. "saw a picture of him and I on his lock screen, "they asked him who I was, and in a moment of panic, "he said, 'My sister.'. "He was really apologetic at this point, "and he was crying a lot. "He couldn't even look at me, "and he was just reading what he had written down. "Anyway, he said that from then, he basically dug himself. "a deeper and deeper grave, because they kept. "grilling him about me, and wanting to see. "more pictures of me. "He said he had let it go on too long, "and that he didn't have the balls to admit to the lie. "He told me that he had never had an affair.
"or even considered it, that the messages. "between him and his female colleagues were banter, "and that it was commonplace to talk to people like that. "in the office. "He also says he knows how disgusting it is. "that he was embarrassed to have been acting. "like a (beeping) boy, again, his words. "He concluded his speech by apologizing again, "and said that he was disgusted with himself, "and ashamed that he had lied for so long, "but felt like he had trapped himself. "and that he couldn't find a way to get himself. "out of it. "He said he knows he could have confessed the truth. "to either his coworkers or to me at any point, "but that he didn't because he was a coward.
"He said that he'll confess to his entire office. "that he lied, and that I am his wife and not his sister. "if I want him to. "He said that he will quit his job without a word. "if it would make him feel better, "and that he hopes I can forgive him, "but he understands if I can't. "Right now, nothing feels real. "I'm still dealing with the emotional whiplash. "from all this, and I can't even keep food down. "or think about anything. "I've taken the day off work, "and Josh told me he's going to take off the whole week. "Sophie and my other friends have told me. "not to make a decision on anything.
"until my head is clear. "I spoke to my parents this morning. "and my mom says it's just a bump in the road, "but she and my dad adore Josh. "so they're pretty biased LOL. "That's where I am right now. "I'll take some time before I consider my next steps. "I can't say whether I'm leaning towards. "forgiveness or divorce, "but those are really the only options. "I kind of feel lost in a void at the moment. "That's probably the best way to describe it, "just emptiness. "Thanks again for all of your advice and support. "I'm truly so grateful, and having this place. "to write down all of my thoughts. "has been helpful to get my mind a little clearer. "This will be my last update.
"unless I make an edit to clear things up. "All the best.". Okay, so but if this is real. - Okay. - Mm-hmm. - Let's take this as a hypothetical, if anything. - Sure. - Okay. - It's ridiculous. Like, if he's lying, like you either don't believe him, or you believe him and you go, you really would be. willing to say that I'm your sister. just to fit in with a bunch of shitty dudes? - [Tommy] Right. - It's not great either way. - No. - No. If it's real, then he's an absolute weenie, and like, I can't say whether it's break up. or stay with him, but they're describing themselves.
in complete emptiness, a void of thought, I'm like, well you don't want a partner. that's gonna do that to you. - Right. - I feel like it's semi-justifiable sometimes, like we can all get carried away. with hey, everyone in the office. loves to go on surfing trips! Do you wanna come? It's like, yeah, I've always wanted to surf. In reality, you're like, I kinda hate the sun. You know? (Shane laughs). But I'm not gonna be like, oh that person? They're my mom, actually. - Yeah. - Right. - Right. - It's kind of a lot. - No, this is ridiculous. It's ridiculous either way. The biggest shock could be that this person.
wrote a whole entire fake story. - They're the asshole. (Emily laughing). - That's a 10 out of 10 shock for me. - Yeah. - If you wrote this whole story? - Some people, it happens a lot on Reddit, and it's always a little mind-blowing to me, because I'm like, you don't get anything out of it. except for anonymous attention. And it's just like, okay. - Well. - Like, all right. - Well. - And this reads like fan fic too, to me. - [Shane] Yeah. - And again, we don't have confirmation-. - It's wordy. - But it sounds-. - But it's not specific. - Yeah. - Like there's a lot of writing,
but not many details, kinda thing. - Okay, if it is real. - If it is real. (Emily laughs). - Should she leave him? - Yeah. - It's a valuable. (Emily laughs). I think I wouldn't be upset at her. for leaving him for that. - I feel like they could work it out maybe. Maybe. - I think they could. - Maybe. - But I'm just saying, if I'm a friend, and I hear about that, I'd be like, I'd get that. Because now you're gonna be questioning. whether he's cheating or not. - Right. - Like, it's gonna be hard- - You have to build trust. - To believe that lie. - Yup.
- Like, that's a crazy huge lie to be telling. a bunch of people, that she is not your wife. Like, that's tough. - Yeah, I think she said they have a trusting relationship, and she would often go through his phone, but like, I think when you find a partner. has downloaded something like Microsoft Teams, there's not really coming back from that. Like, you know what their intent is. (Emily laughing) - Right. - He's funny. - He's funny. - I don't know. (Tommy laughing). Clearly, this is the biggest, like, I'd feel weird about it.
It's the biggest possible violation. that could've happened for her. Like, only she can judge that, but yeah, this clearly hit her where it hurts, and I would certainly be bummed about it, so either you go tit for tat. and tell everyone that he's actually your son, and make him live with that for two years, or just break up. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Grab a brush and put a little makeup. - I agree. - 10 out of 10 shocking. Just 'cause. - Just 'cause why not. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Just give it to it. - DDR style is what? Wow! - You're the most glorious dancer!
- Oh hell yeah. (laughing). - Love that. - Love that. - Yeah, yeah. - Well. - Wow. - This has definitely been filled with shocks. - For sure. - No doubt. - For sure. - Surprises you. - Squeals. - Yeah. Our next Lego stream is gonna be weird. (Emily laughing). - Open up. (all laughing). Here we go. - Thank you both for being here. - Thank you. - Thank you. - It was a lot of fun. - Thank you. - Thank you for watching. Let us know what other themes and Subreddits. you want us to see, and we'll see you next Saturday. Goodbye!
