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- Hello, welcome to "Reddit Stories". I'm Shane, and today's theme is all about parties, celebrations, and you name it. We've got weddings, we've got all sorts of stuff today, and I am joined by two of my friends, Angela and Chance. - Yahoo! - Yay! - These are obviously gonna be celebrations gone wrong. - [Both] Oh. - Oh, it's not like happy endings. - The nature of these stories are rarely just like, and everything's good and everyone's happy. - Yeah.

- This is not a wholesome episode. - Oh. - I don't believe, so. Have you been at parties or celebrations. that have gone wrong? - Absolutely. - Absolutely. My family threw me a surprise birthday party. for my 16th birthday at Bubba Gump, and I hate attention when I can't control it. (giggling). And I walked in there, saw everyone, threw a fit, started screaming, and ran out. - And you didn't come back? - No, then my dad had to go get me. - Where did you go?

- Oh, I was just a teenager and I was crying outside, and I was being like, "I don't want this! I hate this! I hate this!". 'Cause it was all my mom's friends. and it wasn't my friends. She got like two friends from my school, but then the rest was my cousins. And I was like, "I don't wanna do this. I don't like attention.". And then my dad was trying to calm me down. and the waitress thought my dad was hurting me. 'cause I was like, "Get off me! Get off me!". No, I made a bad celebration. - It's hard to imagine you throwing a fit like that. - Yeah, I was a crazy teen.

I was screaming. - Wow. - [Angela] Yeah. - [Shane] Chance? - I've been to a couple surprise parties. where the couple shows up. Both were two different couples, but they were obviously fighting. right before the surprise party, right before the surprise part, and they came into the door and it was just, you could tell that they did not want the party, they did not wanna see people, and they had to sit through the party. And then at one of the parties. that I went to where that happened,

they did end up leaving halfway through. (Shane groaning). They couldn't stop butting heads. Really awkward. - [Shane] Yikes. - But hey, there was drinks, there was food. - At least there was that. - I was having a good time. - At least there was that. - Okay, well, let's get into these stories. First one. "Am I the asshole for faking a serious eye injury, making my mom faint, and ruining my birthday party?". So this happened at Bubba Gump, I'm noticing. (Angela laughing). All right, "My mom thinks the height of humor is to smash me.

and my siblings' faces into our birthday cakes.". (Angela laughing). "I have no idea why, but it amuses her to smash our faces into birthday cakes.". (Angela laughing). "I just turned 15 and I told her. that if she planned to do that to me again, I would rather not have a cake or even a party. She promised that she would not do it, and she was upset that I threatened to not attend. if she planned it without that promise. I knew she was lying because I know her, so I made a plan with my friends. One of them does cosplay and helped me out. with a very basic trick.

The other two that were there were. there to play along and make it worse. When my mom smashed my face into the cake, as expected, I screamed like I was shot. I took the patch I had in my hand and pulled my face. away from the cake and put my hand on my eye. The patch had a stub of candle that stuck out. between my fingers. (Chance clapping). and some fake blood. My friends came to the rescue. and I screamed that I couldn't see out of that eye. One of them looked under my hand. and pretended to have to go to the bathroom to throw up. My mom literally fainted.

Once that happened, I called off the joke pretty quickly. I showed everyone that it was just a joke, but the day was wrecked. There was fake blood everywhere. and someone had called an ambulance, which was good because we ended up needing it for my mom. I didn't get in trouble because I showed. my dad the text showing. that my mom had promised not to do the cake thing. But my mom is pissed that I made her look bad. and like a liar because I showed everyone the text. because they were all mad at me to begin with. I think that if she hadn't lied, then nothing would've happened, so this is all on her.".

- I love the receipts! - Justice! (Shane laughing). It is. You said you wouldn't, you did, now you faint, bitch. (Shane and Angela laughing). - That's so funny. - And it's so good and it's so thought out, it's Megamind shit and I'm all about it. - And if you really wanted to up that prank one more level, when the mom came to, they should have been like, "You've been in a coma for five days.". (Angela and Chance laughing). No, I mean she really did just reverse the prank on her mom.

- This is so funny. - To a pretty powerful level, but she did say, "Don't do this," and the mom did it, so-. - That's what she gets. - That's what she gets. - And there is risk. You can't just shove someone's face in shit. - I know fainting's scary, but it's so funny to think. about something happening and someone going. (gasping). (Shane gasping). - Like what? Remember? - She faints perfectly. into the cake. - Yeah, Damien during "Betrayal", he had blood in his mouth. What if we fainted? Do you remember that time, he had a blood capsule in his mouth?

- Yes. - Yes. I do remember that. - Yeah. - Yes, I do. - Memories. (laughing). (background person laughing). - Yeah, that's nice. - Yeah. (Shane and Angela laughing). - What I will say is also, did they have a second cake? - No. You smash the cake. You smash it in someone's face into the cake, I'm not eating that cake. - No one's eating that cake. - Yeah, you're wasting the cake. - That's so true. - That's such a waste of a cake. - They don't mention a second cake, but I don't know. No, I don't think. I'm not a huge fan of the smashing. someone's face into a cake. Yeah, can it be funny?

Sure, if everyone's cool with it. - Isn't it a thing for weddings, too? - Apparently some people do that, but only if people are laughing and want to do it. - Like, put cake on my face, put cake on my face. - Hey, do it, do it! - Please, please. - Put the icing on my chin. - I did it. - Yeah. - Someone please do it. Ha, ha, ha! Oh, honey. - Yes! Yes! - Some comments. "You didn't make her look like a liar, she did that herself.". (Chance clapping). Someone else said, "Not the asshole.

Smashing someone's face in the cake is. classic narcissist behavior. It turns the focus back on them while taking. the person being celebrated down a peg. Her reaction is typical of a cornered narcissist as well.". - I love it. - "As a mother, I honestly cannot wrap my mind. around how any parent could be. this casually cruel to their children. You're not the asshole, but your mother is (beep) awful. I would never speak to her again. What an absolute bitch.". - Okay. - These comments are like, "She's a narcissist." (imitating gunshot). "Don't speak to her again." (imitating gunshot). - You should (beep) kill your mom.

- [Chance] Yeah. - That maybe take a little bit to never speak. to your mom again. - That's way too much. - That might be a little too much. We don't know enough about this relationship. - [Chance] Yeah. - I mean here's the thing. I love my mom so much, but I did grow up and. me and my brother's birthdays were. also a little bit her celebration. She would always throw surprise parties 'cause she loved it. (Shane laughing). And when we were kids, it would be a big theme. that we would pick it, but some parents really enjoy that.

and sometimes get a little carried away. - I agree. - But this also seems like someone. who laughs when people fall. You know what I mean? - Like laugh at other people's misery? - Yeah. - You just absolutely lose me when someone's like, "Hey, please don't do that," and then you do it. - And you say, "I will not do that.". That's a breach of trust. Yeah, right. - That's absolutely crazy. Yeah, and it's your child, they're 15. A 15-year-old daughter. Anyone who's at that age, at 15, it's like,

man, if they're saying don't do something, just don't do it, man. - Don't do it. - That age, everything feels like catastrophe. - Don't bully your kid. - It's their birthday. - Yeah, yeah. Well, she fainted, so (beep) her. - It's so funny. (howling). - I hope she fell, too. - Move on to our next story. So this is a hypothetical, they're about to potentially do something. - Okay. - Okay. I don't usually like this because this is fake. - No, it's not fake. - It's not fake. - It didn't happen.

- It didn't happen yet. - They're planning on doing something. - I know, okay. - "Would I be the asshole if I tell my friend. her "bridesmaids" won't be throwing her. an extensive bachelorette party. if we aren't invited to the wedding?". - If we? - [Shane] We. - The bridesmaids. - We gonna find out. - The bridesmaids won't be throwing-. - This girl wants.. I'm guessing this girl wants a bachelorette. and is gonna elope or something. - Okay. "So I, 27-year-old woman, am friends with Jane, 28-year-old woman. Jane and her fiance, Brad, who's 29, recently got engaged.

Jane is one of my best friends. and we have known each other since college. When talking about our future weddings, Jane has always expressed that she wants. me and a handful of our other closest friends to be. her bridesmaids and to have a destination wedding. When I saw Jane and Brad the day they got engaged, one. of the first things Jane said to me was how excited she was. for me and our other friend to be her bridesmaids. This was about a month ago. However, now that Jane and Brad have started looking. at wedding planning, they have decided to have. a tiny destination wedding in Colorado.

and only their immediate family will be invited. to save money. They also plan on having a casual party for all the rest. of their family and friends after, but there'll be no ceremony or sit-down dinner. and there'll very clearly not be a second wedding. Even though I was disappointed and hurt to hear. that I would not be invited to the actual wedding, I understand that it is their right to have. whatever kind of wedding they want. And if it is not important to her. that her best friends be there, that's her choice. But what irked me is that Jane still expects. a bridal shower, a long weekend trip.

to an expensive destination for her bachelorette party, and mentioned a registry for wedding gifts. I find it a bit ridiculous that she still expects to have. these things thrown by, and presumably paid for. by the people that aren't even invited. to the actual wedding. She still insists on calling us her bridesmaids, but since we will not be present at the wedding. and will have no special designation at the party, I don't see how we actually are. Our friends are a bit split on what to do about this. Some want to confront her about this, some think that would be an asshole move.

So would I be the asshole for telling Jane. that if she's not having a traditional wedding, she can't expect traditional wedding benefits?". Edit. "I think a few people are misunderstanding my point here. I'm not saying I don't wanna celebrate her at all, or that she shouldn't get anything outside of her wedding. What's bothering me is her stated expectation. of a big shower and bachelorette trip. She explicitly said she wants to go to Scottsdale, we are in Tennessee, so this requires a flight. without an invitation to the wedding. She could throw any kind of backyard, courthouse,

big, small, whatever, wedding, and I would be happy to do all of the above. as long as I was actually invited.". Why in Scottsdale? - That is so random. (Angela laughing). You can get a really big Airbnb-. - In Scottsdale, okay. - And it's so much land and there's pool and. - I guess depending on the time of year, it's gonna be warm or something. I think what it is maybe that she's feeling is. there's an expectation, there's a lot of work. There's a lot of work in being a bridesmaid. I only know this from second hand.

It's a lot of work to be, and then it's like, okay, but I'm part of this ceremony, I'm part of this wedding, so I'm putting in this work. And so it's like, oh, but this work is still expected of me. even though the plan has now changed. - Yes. - And the problem is it started off as a wedding. that she was gonna be part of and all this stuff, and then it switched and now she's not part of it. I wonder if the bride would.. if this could all be kind of solved. by just framing it differently? - 100%. I was gonna say-. - Kind of like, hey, this isn't a bachelorette trip anymore, but can we just throw a party? - Or, I think 'cause there's so much politics to bride stuff.

and bridesmaids and weddings and bachelorettes, and I think what the problem is here, we don't know how the bride is framing the bachelorette, but I think assuming that your friends will throw you. a weekend getaway somewhere and you not kind of leading. the charge is, I think, that's the disconnect, right? They're like, oh, we're doing all this. and then we don't get to do the other.

Does that make sense? I understand that, but some of the best bachelorettes are. when the bride is kind of like, "Hey, this is what I would like to do.". - [Chance] Yes. - I have these plans. And then you let everyone else decide. how they wanna contribute. - Yeah. I think with how the bride is now going about this wedding, it sounds like that's more the vibe. They've paired it down a lot, and it's like with that. it's like, hey, it's not about. 'Cause I agree. You're talking about oh, this'll be a really fun thing, but the bride is still framing it.

in this more traditional sense. as opposed to, "Hey guys, do we wanna. all just go do something really fun?". - Yeah. - Yeah. - And we all do it together as opposed to, "You need to throw me a party.". - Exactly. - Oh, and throwing out a hint of, "Oh, Scottsdale would be fun.". It's just like that's a lot of work of then, okay cool. And then-. (men cross talking). - So you, Miss Bride get the Airbnb, you plan the trip, and tell the bridesmaids. where we get to celebrate. - I have feeling that if the bride did all of that, she wouldn't be writing this post. She'd be like, "Oh, yeah, it's fine. We're doing a different thing.". - No, I think she thinks.

I think the only reason why she would be upset about this is. if the bride put all the work on her. Does that make sense? - Or she's assuming that the bride is going to put. all the work on her. - Yes, exactly. - It's sounding like that though, right? (Chance and Angela cross talking). - I don't think they've gotten to that point yet. - True. - But then I kinda understand it 'cause you're like, hey, you want your cake and eat it, too. You wanna have the wedding part with us, and we have to do all that work and then you get to go away. And then we're gonna spend all this money. and then we don't get to then go to a party.

that you also planned. Because what also is special about weddings is. the wedding sometimes is, it's different for every culture and every person. and every state. But sometimes it's the bride and the groom being like, "Come celebrate with us.". Right? And, "We love you guys, so we're gonna feed you guys. and we're gonna do this together.". So the bachelorette is kind of the way. that the girls could give back to the bride. Does that make sense? I just did a bachelorette literally a month ago,

and it was so clear that her wedding, my friend whose wedding it was, that was so much a labor of love for her. and her family to put on for the family and her friends. And the bachelorette was just us being like, hey, she's got a lot of work on her plate. Let's just do a fun weekend away. And she picked the spot, she gave us all the. But then we were like, let's fill it with things she loves. so she doesn't have to plan that. So it was kinda like a, I scratch your back, you scratch my back, kind of,

a little bit like a sacrificial giving, right? And I think the only reason why this girl's probably like. this is (beep) is 'cause she's not feeling given back to. and it's just serve me, serve me and then I'm gonna go away. and celebrate this and you can't even join that. - I don't think she'll be the asshole for going. and saying, "Hey, I don't think I wanna go through. with this now that the plan has changed.'. I don't think she's an asshole for that. I don't think that's even the conversation now. of if you're an asshole or not as much as just like, hey, the plans have changed, so go about it now that the plans are changed.

Do a different thing now. - And it's just dangerous territory heralding it. - Well, weddings are- - Groups for yourself. - True. She needs to go as an individual and not explain it as we, 'cause she is. - Yes. - The title is saying that 'we'. and you're not speaking for we. - Do not speak for we. - But then also I'll say now I'm hearing. I have to always go both sides here. And I'm like, it's interesting that. I think if the bride is not just dumping this on them, then I kind of respect the bride's wishes to be like, this is how I'm doing my wedding.

And these girls being like, well, if we don't get to go dance on a dance floor, then that's not fun. You know what I mean? 'Cause I will say, a lot of girls, 'cause the bridesmaids thing I just did, we weren't official bridesmaids. We didn't stand up there with her, and we didn't wear the same things. - I also do not like when the bridesmaids. or groomsmen stand up there with them. I'm like, "Let me sit down.". This is not-. - Well, some people it's really sweet. (cross talking). - Let me sit the (beep) down it. This is not about me. You go do your ceremony, stand up there. - I know, but sometimes people are nervous.

and they like their friends around them. and it's really sweet. - I'll be right in the front row. 'cause you saved me the front row. once we walk up, and then I sit down. - The family's in the front row. But anyway. (Shane laughing). I'll say-. - Family's in the second row. Chosen families in the first. (Angela laughing). - I'm kidding. I think it gets really crazy 'cause sometimes people take. the words 'bridesmaids' as I'm best friend, and then I get all these things 'cause I am best friend. Or we are the group, that we are your chosen people, and we are the number one people.

And then sometimes they want more rather than yeah, this wedding I was a bridesmaid at, we literally just got ready with her and did a bachelorette. No one knew we were that. It was just her making us feel special. I think at the end of the day, both events, the wedding. and the bachelorette are just both parties being like, I appreciate you, I love you. - [Chance] Yeah. - It's tough. It's tough 'cause Courtney and I went. such a different route. - Yeah. - But I also see. I'm just, it's hard for me to relate to the bride. 'cause I am someone who never would just expect-.

- [Angela] Exactly. - People to do something like that for me. My instinct is to think like, oh, well, that's crazy, dude, to just have. that expectation of someone. So I am on the O-P side just in. yeah, that's crazy to expect. - It's expectation. - Expect you to do that. when it's you're not technically part of this. - [Chance] 100%. - It's just expecting and not communicating. - [Chance] Yep. - Yeah, it should be, hey, huge change of plans. So let's discuss what we want to do now in this state.

The verdict was not the asshole. Comments? "Not the asshole. You weren't a bridesmaid, so you should not be expected. to carry out bridesmaid duties.". Someone else said, "Not the asshole. I think it would be totally fair to still want. a bachelorette party if she treated it. in a similar fashion to the wedding. Meaning she was okay with it being small, simple, and inexpensive. If she said, 'Hey, it's a tiny wedding, so I don't need a big, wild weekend, let's just go out for dinner and drinks one night, okay?'. That would be okay, even if she wasn't inviting. folks to the wedding. But to say, 'You can't come to the wedding, but also,

but you have to do all the things. that require you to spend time and effort. and money for me still,' isn't acceptable. You can be small and low key, or wild and big, but you can't pick and choose. and expect the guests to go along.". - 100%. You can also be wild and big, but communicate that, and not pressure someone into that. Just because you have a small wedding doesn't mean. you have to have a small bachelorette. You just can't expect and you can't pressure. - Totally, totally. Lastly, someone said, "Not the asshole. You're 100% valid for the way you feel.

Wedding traditions are so blurred. that there is no right or wrong way of doing things.". - Yes, yes. - "If you don't feel like spending hundreds, if not thousands on a celebration. you are not invited to, then don't. Some individuals may feel they still wanna partake. in the celebration and that is great. They can do so without expecting. everyone else to do the same. I would set a firm boundary with them. and then don't sway after that boundary is set. If you feel like the party they are doing after is enough, simply say, 'I will personally only be partaking. in this event, but I hope you have fun. on whatever else you decide to do.''.

- Yeah. - Yeah, I definitely agree with that. This is just a lack of communication. - 100%. It's just communication and expectation. Chance knows that if I ever get married, he's gonna have to throw a four-day-long parade. that ends in a musical. - And you know what? - And I've communicated that-. - And I relish in that opportunity, and it will be the best god damn musical you've ever seen. - But just saying. - And when there's budget cuts and Chance has to do. a one-man show version of it. (Angela laughing). - Well. - Where he plays all the characters. - Well. I've been waiting for this, - But I've communicated. That is my point. I'm not gonna expect the parade,

I'm gonna tell Chance with a gun. to his head, do me a parade. I'm kidding. (Shane laughing). - [Chance] And I'll say-. - You don't have to do this. - I'd be like, "Get theatrical, go crazy.". - I wanna see this. - I'm kidding. That actually sounds like my worst nightmare. (laughing). - I do want, I do want. - Yeah, you just talked about hating the Bubba Gump story. and now you're like- - I know. - But now I wanna parade. - I know. That was just a joke, that was a joke. - I will be creative directing my own wedding. It will be a show. It will be show. - I'm exhausted just hearing it. - Yeah. Does anyone have any objections?

Yeah, bitch, there's gonna be some. - You're gonna plan objections? - Oh, yeah, the (beep) I am. - That's actually-. - And it's gonna be hilarious. - That's actually so funny. I've never heard of that before. - A comedy one? - I've just never heard. of anyone planning objections as a bit. - Yeah. - Oh, yeah. He's gonna make us go like, "My objection, my fat ass.". - No, I think I might hire actors, that way no one has to. That way no one. That way no one coming. That way no one coming has to perform; they're just guests. They get to enjoy the show. - That's so funny. - Isn't that so fun? - I love that.

- Yeah. - [Shane] Oh, man. - But what about my four-day-long parade? - Yeah, that was cool, too. - No, your weddings will be, your wedding will be different. Your wedding will be. Our wedding will be different. (Shane laughing). Why are you guys laughing? (Angela laughing). - Okay, next story. "Am I asshole the for leaving during my wife's labor?'. (Shane laughing). Scott. - Listen. Listen, boys, if the game's tied. and we're in the fourth quarter, we gotta go watch it. - Look, man. - I don't like you. - That didn't land well.

(background people laughing). - Add that to the compilation. - Stop. (Chance laughing). - 10 minutes of Angela giving herself the ick. Several fans were like clipped, clipped, done. All right. 'My wife went into labor around six PM on Sunday. We were expecting twins. It quickly turned into a very painful process. She kept cutting off the blood pressure to my hand. when she squeezed and nearly sprayed my shirt with vomit.". Sounds really hard, dude. - I was just about to say. My (beep) God.

Your hand? - I'm having really tough day. - She's got two humans coming out of her vag. - Her vagina's about to be the size of a (beep) football, and your hand hurts? - Twice, twice. - "Around three AM, my dad calls. I work for my dad's company and we had a presentation. for clients Monday morning that I had to get ready for. My dad heard my wife was in labor, but told me he needed me on this presentation. He said there was nothing I could do to help my wife. and delivery and seeing the baby come out was overrated. and people don't prepare you for the gore.

He said he needed me to rest up. and make myself presentable for the presentation. My wife's labor was progressing very slowly. and we were all certain she would need forceps. or other assistance to deliver the babies. I realized that I couldn't help her here. and my dad was counting on me, so I told her I needed to leave. She started screaming at me so loudly. that a few nurses rushed over to our room. I ended up doing the presentation. with the clients and things went well. I leave the office and see a text on my phone. that said my wife delivered an hour ago at around 10:30 AM.

and they had to use forceps. I would've missed the meeting had I stayed. and my dad has given me everything he could possibly give me. in life, so I didn't wanna let him down. Am I the asshole? I had responsibilities that I had to take care of. And while my wife is still screaming at me saying. that she was alone when they destroyed her body, I'm the only one who works, and her mom herself said. that she was emotional and overreacting. My wife even went as far as to say. that her family would disown her. if she was the first of them to divorce, but that she doesn't consider me her husband right now.".

(Chance screaming). It's a lot. - This is rich, Shane, this is rich! I'm fuming over here. - He had a presentation though. This guy's Don Draper. - It's just unfathomable. Your dad needed you? No, bitch, it sounds like your wife needed you. - But it kind of makes sense with what the dad was saying. where it's like this is what he was raised to believe. - What could be the content of this presentation.

that it is so vastly important. that you couldn't say, "My wife is in labor. Can we move it a couple of hours?'. - Or just, "I can't make it.". - Yeah. - You can go do the presentation without me. - Yeah. - There are moments in life where I'm like, and I think it's a lot of moments in life are. really tough to figure out, right? Where you're at a fork in the road. And then there's moments in life where you know. that at the end of your life you're gonna flash back to it. And you're like, all right, the right decision is clear to me.

It is so clear, and I need to do this. And to anyone who might be like, oh, well maybe it seems. like he couldn't figure it out. It's like, well, his wife was there screaming. that she absolutely wants him there, so I think that's-. - [Angela] That's where it is. - That's the answer for you. - Yeah, because I wanna say, I think my dad was late. In my family, I do think there's a lot of, especially with COVID and hospitals-. - Well, sometimes it strikes, sometimes as soon. as water breaks and it's like, oh, shit, and you just don't know. - And people try their best.

I will say, the mandatory, "You weren't there?". That, I think it's the principle of her needing help. and her saying no. - It's that he was there. - And he left. - [Shane] And he left. - And it's not just that-. - [Shane] That's the problem. - And it's she said, "Please stay.". - It's not, I was at work at a presentation. and my phone was off and I didn't know, and all this stuff. There's a ton of reasons that things could happen. - Yeah, 'cause during COVID, people couldn't go in there. - But he's literally there. She's squeezing his hand so hard that it's brutal for him.

And he can see the pain she's in, and his dad's going, "Oh, you don't wanna see that gore.". - My favorite part. That's the richest part because I know that (beep). dad plays (beep) Halo and all this (beep) gun shit. and blood's everywhere, but I don't wanna see gore down there. - [Chance] That's hilarious. - That's disgusting. - That's hilarious. I think there might be a possibility. that he didn't want to be there. And there's a possibility that he's not being as honest. with himself that he did not want to be there.

- Or he did. - He did not want to see it. - I disagree. - And he chose the presentation. so he did not have to be there. - So that he could go home and get a good night's sleep. - So that he-. - How could you go home and sleep? - Dude, it's gory. - While your wife is in labor. - It's gory, dude. Her cookie looks scary. - Can you imagine the person you are dedicated to? Can you imagine the person you're dedicated to. to the rest of your life, that you're supposed to love. more than anyone is there on a bed, screaming.

while doctors are doing all sorts of stuff. while a human is coming out of her body, and you're like, "I'm gonna go home and sleep,". and you can? - Yeah. - Your body can. - You can go home and you can sleep? I don't blame her for being like, I might divorce you. - No, 100%. And I think what it's also, though, it's giving, you know how there are a lot of people, I feel like I see it. a lot in movies, so maybe it's not real, but a lot of people who before they have kids, they're just like a child right up until they hold this kid.

And then they're like, oh, my God. Because what what was interesting is he said. that his dad gave him everything. Meanwhile, his wife is quite literally giving him. the rest of his future, which will be so plentiful. with kids and beautiful. But he has no concept of that and all he can see is. what his dad has given him. So his dad is a bigger deal to him right now than his wife. And it's interesting because I do feel. like once he realizes the riches of having a family. or whatever, I mean, maybe he's not into it, but it does feel like he thinks.

the only gifts given to him were from his dad, and I just disagree. - It's just one of those times. I'm not a religious person, but your literal wedding vows are like, hey, I'm gonna stick with you in the worst of times. It's like, this is quite literally the promised moment. You promised to be here and you're breaking that. She's she's actively screaming and saying, "Please.". - It's really sad to leave someone in physical distress.

- I'm kind of blown away. - Yeah. - I also think that there is familial patterns. in our DNA that are so inherent. that we don't even look at a lot of the time. And I think he is hopping onto his dad's train. and I think, I'm not a fortune teller, but if this is a boy and he raises that boy. the same way his dad raised him, the pattern is going to continue. - Yeah, you're right. - Unless he does something.

- It's like the pattern is there, but it's also, you know what? I'm also gonna say this, there's an added layer here. I think they're stupid on a professional level. They have a presentation, this huge presentation. that's really important. It's like, can you imagine if the dad walks, the grandpa walks in there, and he goes, "Guys, my son couldn't be here today. because he's actively in the room. with his wife while she's giving labor."? - Boom. - And it's like, "I'm about to be a grandpa. "Anyways, I'm gonna do my best. right now to present this to you.". Sold! - I'm an investor.

I'm sobbing, my wallet's out. - Cash is raining down. That's what I hate is when a story is stupid. on multiple levels, where I'm like, you failed everything. - Yeah. - You had it all in the bag right there. You didn't have to sacrifice anything here. - And I will say sometimes there are. professional environments. I don't know what this professional environment is, but sometimes that is not a valid excuse. - If he was a heart surgeon-. - Yeah. - And in that hospital and someone's like, "Hey, someone's heart is exploded.".

It's like, oh, well, I can save that life, okay. - Sometimes these Wall Street boys, sometimes these tech bros, the meeting is so important, and if it doesn't happen then it won't happen. So I don't know the gravity of this meeting-. - That still goes back to if once.. Oh, and he's 80 years old and he's dying-. - What matters? - Is he gonna think back and go, "I should have done that differently."? That's where I'm like, I know what I'm gonna regret. Maybe I'm very in tune with it, but I often, in those moments, I'm like,

I know what I'm gonna regret later. And so I'm like, I have to be there. - 100% - Are there updates. on what the meeting was or anything? - There are no updates. (Chance screaming). - This guy and his dad suck so badly it's crazy. - There's no update because the verdict is asshole, right? They're not gonna update that. - Oh, 100%. - They're not gonna be like, "Update. Yeah, so she hates me.". - Update. There's too many women in the comments talking to me, and I don't like this. - Also mind you, mind you, think about this. - [Chance] What? - His child was born, these twins, his children were born.

- Two, my lord. - And he's right. He's- - Two, my Lord. - His children were born. and he's writing a Reddit story asking people. if he's an asshole about this presentation. - Oh, my God. - He doesn't mention his children. This is his focus right now. - You're so (beep) right. You're so (beep) right. - That's the thing. That's his focus right now. - The first time you're a father. - What was the title called again? - The title is "Am I the asshole for Leaving. during my wife's labor?". But you're worried about whether you're an asshole. or not about the decision you made. You have brand new children, you're a father,

and this is your focus? - There was also no remorse in that. - No. - [Angela] That's why I'm like, I wonder. - The first paragraph is comical. - Oh, my favorite part is too, he's like, "Her mom was even saying she was being dramatic.". - Yeah, so actually. - Another woman said that she.. Shut up. Shut up. - Comments. "You're the asshole. 'I realized that I couldn't help her here.'. Yeah, you could. You could provide a comforting, supportive presence. while she's extremely scared and in pain. Instead you abandoned her, which made everything even more stressful.

And, 'Seeing the baby come out was overrated.'. It's not. There's a reason why people usually list. the birth of their children. as the most memorable moments in their lives. and you missed it.". Someone else said, "You're the asshole. God, you may be the biggest asshole of the week. Your wife, the woman you vowed to stand by. for the rest of your life, was having what could likely be. the most traumatic experience of her life, and instead of supporting her, you left her. because you figured helping your dad was more important. The second you get married, your nuclear family becomes. your wife and any children you have. They should become your first priority. and you've managed to abandon them all at the time.

when your wife needed you. and missed the birth of your children. You'd be lucky If you ever get to see those kids. You need a reality check. It's unfortunate your wife doesn't wanna divorce you. Hopefully she changes her mind.". - What? - Someone else said, "You're the asshole. There are no clients anywhere. that would expect you to be at a presentation. on the day of your wife's giving birth. W-T-F?". Someone replied to that saying, "If I was the client. and I learned he missed the birth to sell something to me, I would try to find someone else to do the work. You're the asshole and so is your dad. The apple didn't fall far from the tree here.". Absolutely. - Yeah.

Also, just listening to that made me think of another thing. I think some people's idea of care taking is. well, if I can't do anything to help her, I'm not of any help. And I think sometimes in the biggest moments, we need someone to just be there when it's painful. You don't have to do anything. You don't have to. You just stand there with me. Just make me not alone. - It's a peak kind of masculine thought. that I can understand how a lot of dudes think it, where it's like, oh, I can't actually. physically do anything. - Like the nurse is better than me.

- They don't understand. They don't understand, oh, emotionally that that's what you're doing. - Just your presence there in a time. of physical anguish is, that's enough. - Yeah. And I understand to a degree what you were saying. of maybe he didn't wanna be there. 'Cause I also understand there's a discomfort. and I'm sure a lot of guys feel it. It can be really hard. I mean, she's in labor. - No, but you're right. - That's really hard. But I think for a lot of guys. and probably people in general, it's hard. when it's like there's moments in life where it's like, I can do nothing but be here.

- And see you suffer. - And I cannot. Actually, it will actually be. unhelpful to try to help in any other way. - Yeah. - Yeah. - All I can do is be here for you. - I think that is why a lot people-. - And a lot of guys, I think, are bad at it. - [Chance and Angela] Yeah. - It's hard. - 'Cause you have to just sit there. and you just have to be there. It's, yeah. - And I've noticed it 'cause I'm someone. who wants to do something. Where I recognize when I'm like, oh, it's not being helpful. when I'm like, "Well, can I do anything? What can I do?". - Yeah. You cannot control the flow of the universe.

You can just sit there as it passes. - Sometimes care taking isn't actionable. And I think, like, my friend right now is going. through a breakup and it's so hard. for me to not do anything. I'm like, "Let's go somewhere. Let's do this, let's do this.". And sometimes being a good friend. and partner is just being there. - What I'm really bad at is moments. where I'm like, oh, I shouldn't give advice. - Yeah. - I shouldn't say anything. I need to just be like, "That sucks.". - Just like, "Let's watch TV.". - One thing I'm working on is (chuckling). I'm about to do the thing that I'm saying I'm not doing.

Instead of giving advice, I'll share a personal story. of how I experienced something like that. - Yeah. - [Chance] So that they can find-. - You relate. - I relate in some way. But I was reading online that's not always helpful, and then they're like-. - Online. - And some sometimes truly nothing. Truly, sometimes nothing is the best. - At least I read, bitch. (Angela chuckling). (beeping). - Damn! - You wanna shoot daggers, shoot daggers. - No, it just took you a while to get there and it was fun. - Holy shit, bro.

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while your subscription is active. Back to the show. Our next story comes from the subreddit of two hot takes. - Okay. - Shout out to Morgan. - The subreddit always has some of the best stories. "Am I the asshole for not getting the same dress. as the other bridesmaids for my sister's wedding?". - Okay. - I like this. - If everyone else is in the same dress, you're the asshole. - I like this. (background people laughing). I, Daisy, 22, woman, am the maid of honor to my sister's-.

this is Tori, 25, woman, wedding for January, 2025. Our whole family is beyond excited about the wedding. I am so happy that Tori finally found. her dream man, Jack, 26. Tori has not had good love experiences throughout the years. and had bad relationships that did not end well. I am really grateful that Jack is in her life. because he gets along very well with me. and the rest of my family. Tori is my sister and I love her, but as siblings, we have our good days and bad days.

So here goes the whole story. I was beyond happy when my sister, Tori, chose me. as her maid of honor. I, of course, accepted right away. and started looking for dress options. The problem is the style/design of the dress, not the color. I actually love the color Tori chose. It is a beautiful lavender color. For months, I looked at different websites for my dress. and there were pretty good options, but none convinced me. About three months ago, we found a website/app that sells. designer dresses for special occasions like prom, weddings, and cocktail parties for a fair price.

The dresses on this app are beautiful. and nicer than the previous ones I saw on the other sites. I right away searched for maid of honor dresses in lavender. and there were so many options. I scrolled and scrolled for a long time. until I found three nice dresses. that were possible options for the wedding. I scrolled once again and found this dress with an A line. of the shoulder with a low back design. As soon as I saw the dress, I said, 'This definitely is my dress.'. I showed the dress to my mom and she agreed with me. I sent Tori the pictures of the other three dresses. and the one I chose, which was the last picture I sent.

Tori told me that she liked the dress I chose better. than the other three I sent her first. Also, she told me to wait a little more to get the dress. Since there was still time for the wedding, I ended up waiting. So there is my proof. Three weeks ago, Tori texted me and asked me. what dress I chose for the wedding. I again sent her the picture of the dress I chose. She said, 'Yeah, so we are not going with that dress. I wanna stick to the same dress for all the bridesmaids.'. I was in shock because she didn't let me know sooner. Tori sent me a picture of the dress she chose.

for the bridesmaids and it is an infinity dress. The infinity dress can be styled in many different ways. in the upper body area, but has no other designs. and looks very plain. The only reason why Tori chose that dress is. because one of the bridesmaids did not like. any other options of dresses except the infinity dress. Tori even sent a picture of my dress, the one I chose, but she did not like it at all. The other bridesmaids will just go along. with what my sister Tori says. and there is no issue with them whatsoever. I had a huge fight with Tori over this. because I told her, 'I get it is your wedding.

But as the maid of honor, my dress has to be the same color, but the same style/design as the other bridesmaids, and I don't like the other dress.'. Tori answered, 'I don't like it that way, and like you said, it is my wedding.'. I once again told her, 'I don't like the dress you chose. and I am sorry, but I'm going to wear it.'. Tori's told me, 'Well, it is either that dress. or you can stay home and not go to my wedding.'. Right after her answer, Tori walked out the door extremely mad. Since our fight, we have seen each other, but we barely speak. My two brothers, mom, and dad have taken my side.

They say that Tori is overreacting and cares more. about that one bridesmaid's opinion than mine. Also, they say that Tori has not had any consideration. for me as her maid of honor because not once did she ask. for my opinion and helped to choose the bridesmaid dresses. My parents and my brother still cannot believe. Tori and I had a fight over this situation. My mom told me, 'Oh, my God. So Tori decides not to take your side as her sister, but prefers to take Jack's mom, Tori's future mother-in-law, her side and is going to let. her wear the dress of her liking.'.

Side note, in the early preparations of the wedding, Tori and Jack decided that the mothers were going to wear. the same color dress. My mom and Jack's mom both agreed to wear. the same colored dress for the wedding. Jack's mom went back on her word. and decided not to wear the same colored dress as my mom. So am I the asshole? - There's a discrepancy where they said. that she wasn't even consulted on the dress, on what her opinion of the dress was, but she was consulted.

She sent pictures of three dresses and the one. that she chose and the sister said, "Yeah, I like that one, too.". So she was consulted. - Yeah, yeah, that's what it sounded like. Ultimately, when it came down to it and she goes, "This is the dress that we're doing.". And then she says to the bride's face, "Well, I'm doing this other dress.". - That's not how that works. - Yeah. - That's not. - And then the bride goes, "Well, no, you're doing what I'm gonna do or you're not gonna go.". I mean it's like, what are you gonna do at that point?

- It is also like, it should have been like, okay, can we choose this dress over the infinity dress? Why is her opinion more valid than my? - Yeah, if se wants to bring that up to the bride instead. But even still, it's like the bride is making a decision. And what kind of frustrates me is she's bringing up. this and how the mother-in-law kind of went back on her word. and it's like, well, the mother-in-law got to do. what she wanted, so why don't I? It's like, no, there's proof. that someone else has already pressured her. and pissed her off probably.

And now you're gonna add to that and also be selfish? - And that's why that part's in the story. - Also, not your (beep) wedding. - Yeah, I'm like, dude. (stuttering). I don't know. Unless there's a really good reason. - But it is your (beep) body. - But you did send all those dresses. You sent those dresses being like, these all work. You had a favorite, but you sent all those dresses. - [Chance] True. - All of 'em got picked. - When you said this, I was like, oh, I really hope this dress is for a comfort,

like a body comfort thing or just like a personal, this is my body and I'm not comfortable in that. But then when I heard it just had an open back. and I liked that, I was like, okay, well, buy that for another party. - [Chance] Yeah. - [Shane] There's plenty of-. - I was like, oh, that's the reason why you're putting. your foot down is 'cause you look great in the open back? - Also, the price of this relationship, the price of the wedding is now. what you look like in a dress? That doesn't seem worth it to me. - Yeah, there's plenty of..

I think there would be plenty of reasons where I'd be like, okay, if for whatever reason maybe the dress was. too revealing and she's like, I-. - Exactly. - [Shane] I don't feel comfortable. - There's so many things, yeah. - Yeah, there's plenty of reasons why I'd be like, I don't feel comfortable in this. But that's not the angle. - Exactly. That's what I was hoping this was. 'cause I was like, oh, that would be. a more nuanced conversation. But if this girl just wants to wear this. because she likes this one more? I hate to break it to you, I hope your social life is bigger than this, and I hope you could just buy that dress. for another thing because this isn't your only time. Also, those infinity dresses?

I was a bridesmaids and we all had those infinity dresses. and it was because there were so many different ages, body types, there were pregnant bridesmaids. There are so many. It's really terrifying when you have someone say, "You have to wear this," right? And it's not like, it's hard to fully be like, my body is yours to put whatever you want on. Right? So it's already a vulnerable spot. So that's why I was kind of fighting for this girl. for a second, but now I'm like, ugh, just, this isn't your wedding. - There's also this sense of,

I get it, it's your wedding. But what I will also say is. you're trying to control other people. You're telling them that they're in their wedding, but you're trying to control. what other people are putting on their bodies, how they're being presented. And that doesn't. That traditional wedding vibe? I don't (beep) with that. - And that's fair. - I get that they're gonna be standing up there. They're not dolls. They are real people with real emotions that you love.

and care about, and you should be able to have. an open, honest communication. and they should be able to wear. what they wanna wear at your wedding. - Right, but, and there's many such situations. where I agree with that. This is a situation where this person, this O-P sent four options saying, "These all work for me.". - Yeah. - One was picked, and then they're going, "Nah, I want the other one. 'cause I like it." - Exactly. - It's like, no, that's the problem. I agree if it's like, hey, you're all wearing. Here's the dress that I'm picking that you guys haven't seen.

and going, "I can't wear that.". - [Chance] Yeah. - For whatever reason. I agree with that. And there's probably a lot of situations. - Yeah, you sent this as a suitable option. You have to deal with the consequences of-. - There's a million varieties. - As an option that I might pick. - And look, you are allowed to go, "Then I'm not going to the wedding.". You're allowed to do that. - I'm also thinking as the bride, it sounds like this bride, with the moms being. in the same color, it seems like she wants a picture.

Like this is for pictures and that she wants it to be. a color scheme for the picture. I would even be like, "Wear this. for the (beep) picture and the ceremony. You can get into whatever the (beep) you want after.". But at the end of the day, they're wearing something uniformed. because, I think, of the ceremony and the pictures. I don't think it really matters. But it depends on each person. - I think if this was the angle, if it was. a truly discomfort angle, then I think the answer is. she needs to talk to the bride about that. - She just likes the open back. - But this is not sounding, this isn't sounding like that.

This is something that's come from a different place. It's hard for me to personally relate to because I never did. the traditional stuff and that never mattered to me. It sounds strange to me, but I know how important it is to people. - Yeah. - I think what weddings really come down to is. it's a time to show respect to these two people. - Yeah. - And it's just, I think O-P is an asshole. for reasons outside of even what happened in the story. The first comment sums it up pretty well.

and I didn't think about it until now. Someone said, "Your first paragraph.". By the way, the verdict was asshole, which I think is fair. - Yeah, she's the asshole. - "Your first paragraph of completely unnecessary info. 'She has a history of bad love relationships at the ripe, old age of 25' show both your immaturity. and the way you look down on your sister. Your job as maid of honor is to show up, support the bride, and make her life easier in any way you can. You are failing spectacularly.".

- I love that. - "Either shut up and wear the dress she wants or step down. because it's not about you maybe for the first time. in your life, based on your family's reaction, which is ridiculous, too. You're the asshole.". Yeah, I do feel bad that the family is all siding with her. - Yeah, that's bullshit. - It's so stupid. - This sounds like a interesting family dynamic. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Someone said, "You sound. incredibly self-righteous and entitled. You're the asshole, massively so. You can choose dresses when you are getting married. For someone else's wedding, you wear what they choose. Your family being on your side is absurd.

Are they scared of you or something? I feel incredibly sorry for your sister. She should be all excited and happy. about her upcoming wedding and not have. her life made difficult by an entitled little sister. and favorite-playing parents. I can just imagine the bridezilla you are going to be. at your own wedding when bridesmaids refuse to wear. what you choose for them. Again, you're the asshole.". - It's just like team players. It's like ensemble stuff where you're like, my God, if I was picky about the shit. I had to wear in this building. (laughing).

I'm like, that potato costume for the Spud Hut video. for Members Only doesn't show my back enough. I'm like, you have no (beep) clue. When you work with like, you just gotta be a yes person. sometimes when you're working on a team. - [Shane] Right. - Sorry, I got deep there. - That's okay. I did put you in-. - I do agree though. (Angela laughing). I do agree though. There's situations in life where it's like, hey, man, if you're tasked, you're in this situation, you're trying to make their time easier. It's stressful for them.

It's not about you. - Yeah, when any sacrifice of any kind is such a toll. on someone, it's a red flag. - But I also understand and this is not this situation, but I also understand it is an interesting thing to be like, you get to choose what someone wears. I'm like- - It's so scary. - That sounds weird. - No, it's so hard. - [Shane] And that is a weird tradition. - [Chance] It is weird. - And I think being the bride or groom, you would be mindful. And all of the weddings I know, they were mindful of that. - Yes, you have to be. - And it sounds like to a degree, though, this dress that was picked, I don't know much. about infinity dresses. It sounds like it was picked in what you were saying.

where it's like, this is going to be comfortable for-. - There's so many options. - I know, but like the idea is. that nobody's going to be uncomfortable. - I just think it's an antiquated idea. You just choose a color. and you just make sure everyone is in close. - I really think unless it's a discomfort. from a real intense- - 100%. - Aspect of your being, then it's like, okay. - That's why I was picking up my battle shield. all ready to fight for this person. And then I went, oh. (laughing).

- [Chance] Yeah. - Because plenty of people have very extreme discomforts. with their own body, and I understand that. But unless it's coming from there, if you're able to just be like, okay-. - Yeah, 100%. - 'Cause it's, this and maybe I'm misinterpreting it, it sounds like this is coming from a place of. well, I wanna look (beep) hot. - [Chance] Yeah, that is, - It's like, no, I'm sorry. That's not what this is about here. - I hate when people tell me what to wear to the wedding. And sometimes, I've been to a couple. I went to like six weddings one year. and I had exotic looks,

but I would always ask the bride and groom before. But one groom was like, "You can't wear that.". And I was like, that's so. It wasn't anything crazy, but he was like, "My family's a little more conservative.". And I was like, that's not even a good reason. I wasn't even in the wedding party. I just wanted to share that. (background people laughing). - That's okay. - And I looked so hot. It was such a good suit. - My parents once showed up to a wedding. where everyone was asked to wear all white. and my parents wore all black. and they didn't read the invitation.

It's the funniest picture I've (beep). - That's awesome. - [Chance] And that is awesome. - And I was like, it was mortifying. - Next story. "Am I the asshole for refusing to attend. my mom's Renaissance Fair themed birthday party?". - Hilarious. - I don't believe in the Renaissance. I'm sorry, Mom, I don't believe in that. (all laughing). Da Vinci? Didn't exist. - Yeah. - "My mom recently turned 50. and my family has been experiencing some tension. I'm currently planning a wedding and my mom has been nothing. but cold and standoffish with my bride-to-be.

I have addressed her behavior multiple times. and the answer is always, 'Well, she isn't my fiancee.'. 'Well, I'm shy.'. 'Well, you picked her, not me.'". - (laughing) Well, I'm shy? - "I finally blew up and we had a long heart to heart. and she confirmed my fears. that she doesn't like my fiancee much. and finds her annoying and vapid. I told her if she ever acted on those feelings, she would be disinvited from the wedding. My fiancee recently had a bridal shower/bachelorette weekend. at Disney as she's a huge Disney person. Growing up, we rarely went to Disney.

as my stepdad and I preferred Universal.". (laughing). - Whoa. - That's so funny. - A house divided. - That's so funny that that's the reason. "I never knew my mom had opinions regarding Disney. and it got back to me that she was making fun. of the bridal shower, calling it things. like lame and embarrassing. When I confronted her, she expressed her concerns. She felt it was self-indulgent that she was having. so many pre-wedding events and she was salty. about being given a matching shirt to wear. Apparently, she didn't want to be in the bride squad. She tried to brush this off by saying.

Disney was childish and themes are lame. I ended up skipping my mom's birthday trip. to Italy due to other commitments. To be fair, she was cool with this. I planned on taking her to dinner sometime. since 50 is a big deal. But I received an invitation to a surprise party on the day. of her actual birthday and decided to attend. When I got there, it was full Ren fair-themed costumes, games, food, performers. It was like her own personal fair. Now, I don't think people would suspect this. because she gives off too-cool vibes, but my mom loves Renaissance fairs.

It started as a joke with her and a friend. that it is an excuse to dress slutty, but that was years ago and now they are her thing. (Angela laughing). To be honest, it was an amazing party, probably one of the sickest parties I've seen, but I immediately felt pissed. How the hell is Ren fair less cringey, childish, or embarrassing than Disney? - Ha, ha. - And why isn't it excessive. that my mom had a trip abroad plus this party? I just could not stop thinking (beep) hypocrite. My mom walked in and was surprised. Then she went to change and I couldn't take it anymore.

I told my aunt that I was leaving. and that if my mom wanted me, she could call and personally apologize to my fiancee. My aunt called me a prick, so I left with my fiancee. and guess who never called. Now my family is saying I'm an ass. for missing both of her celebrations when 50 is a huge deal. Also, apparently they are mad because they feel. my fiancee used the party to get Insta likes, but like what? She didn't know we would be leaving early.". - I will say the things we hate in other people are.

most often the things we hate in ourselves. - I think you're an asshole for shaming someone. or judging someone for their interests. It's just she likes Disney. - Their interests, but she's like, "She does too many pre parties.". Bitch, you're going to Italy. and you had a full Renaissance Fair. - That's so true. - You're putting it on her. You don't like what you- - They are the same. - And you're saying she's crazy. - And you think bride squad. - She's upstaging you and you're scared. A new supreme- - And you're scared. - Is coming and you feel your power draining.

- She likes Universal instead of Disneyland? - That line kills me. Yeah, she likes Disney, but we're more of a minions family. (all laughing). - They wanted to go on Space Mountain. and we said, "Let's do the Simpsons ride.". - We're gonna do The Mummy instead. - Yeah. - And I love Universal. and I'm not gonna make fun of anyone who loves it, but also, that's (beep) crazy. (laughing). - I don't like Universal. - I like it, but I don't. But I mean, it's like-. - I don't like Universal. Okay, we live in California. - Yeah.

- I don't like Universal 'cause the ride. you ride the most is the escalator. And I can't do it, I can't. - But with the right people, it feels like a ride. (background people laughing). - This just sounds petty as hell, all of this. This is definitely a petty story. The verdict was asshole. - Oh. - [Shane] But-. - Asshole that he left the party? - That he left the party. All the comments are, we have three comments here, and they're all different takes. - Okay. - Okay, I'm excited. because I wouldn't have left the party. - I do think the mom. He might be the asshole, but the mom is an asshole.

- Yeah, I would say that the party of-. - Go around talking shit on her for liking Disney? I mean, yeah, the mom sounds like an asshole based. on all the comments, all the quotes in this, the mom is asshole. But is he an asshole for leaving this party or not? The top comment or not the top. One of the comments. "You're the asshole. You want your mom to be more accepting of your fiancee. You bailed on her 50th birthday twice. Probably not a good way to go about it. Also, the second party was a surprise, so it's not like. it was planned like the bridal shower thing.

And while your mom thought the event was silly, she still participated. You stood her up intentionally. and then demanded an apology.". - Okay, I kind of understand that, too. - I understand. - I would've stayed at the party. because I would've been like, here's what I wish. you would do for my wife is stay here. and wear the bride squad shit. - Yeah, I'm showing up for you. the way you didn't show up for me. - Yeah, and that's the best way is to-. - That is the best way. - There's situations in life where it's like, okay, this is an opportunity to either make things. a little easier for us going forward.

or I can get vengeance. - Exactly. - [Shane] Catharsis. - Yeah. - But things are gonna be worse. - But I also validate the fact that sometimes. when you're feeling so shitty from someone's actions, you don't wanna be at that party. I get it. - Totally. Other comment. "Everyone sucks here. Ignore all the Disney haters. It's not my thing, but to each their own. Your mom shouldn't be making fun of your fiancee. She is overstepping and good for you for shutting that down. and being a supportive partner. That being said, you should not have caused a scene. and stormed off from the party.

That should have been a private conversation later. and you should have just stayed. for a little bit and then dipped.". Lastly, someone said, "Not the asshole. Your mom hid the fact that she didn't like. your fiancee while avoiding wedding planning. Call me crazy, but that's unusual. Even if she's not the biggest fan of your fiancee, she should still respect the relationship. Publicly ridiculing someone by calling them childish or lame. because they enjoy a fantasy world while having. someone throw you a surprise party themed. around a fantasy world is hypocritical. You stood up for your fiancee and set boundaries.

before things got out of hand. The only way you could be the asshole is. if you're leaving out something that your fiancee did. Otherwise, your mom definitely owes both of you an apology.". Renaissance isn't necessarily a fantasy, you know? Renaissance was a period of time in history. - Speak on it. - But they often, Renaissance fairs include. fantasy elements like fairies and dragons and shit. - Sick. - Just so you guys know. - Thank you. - Awesome. - But Ren fair usually involves me getting just so-. - Blasted.

(all laughing). - That's what Ren fair's for, let's be real. - Absolutely. - I've never seen people drunker. than at the Renaissance Fair. - So is bride squad. Bride squad. - Bride squad. These stories, I enjoy because we're talking. about petty stuff. We're talking about some bullshit, people saying mean things to each other-. - And revenge. - And doing stuff. And we've got a bunch of different angles of this. I don't necessarily think, I can't necessarily disagree with any of 'em. So sound off in the comments what your thoughts are on this. - Yeah. - [Shane] I'm curious.

- Universal heads, rise up, - Universal heads. Let's get a comment for Universal. and a comment for Disney and see who wins. - Ooh. - Disney's gonna. - Disney's gonna win. - Disney's gonna decimate. - Our final story. (Chance screeching). "Am I the asshole for teasing my friend. about not recognizing my kid, thus ruining her marriage. and an unrelated engagement party?". - Feels like it has three acts. - Yeah. - So there's multiple, there's a domino effect. - Yeah, okay. - That's right. - "So me and my wife have a five-year-old son.

Our group of friends is mostly couples with kids. as we are nearing our 40s, and so a lot of our meetings. with friends now include meeting up. as entire families, kids included. This can sometimes mean a lot of adults and a lot of kids. One person in this group, Emma, fake name, used to be. my roommate in college. She was married and has her own kids. and we hang out with her and her husband sometimes. in a group setting, but rarely on our own. Emma also tends to run late often. This is all relevant to the story. As our son is an only child, we sometimes worry.

that he wouldn't really learn to share. or get along with other kids. To prevent this, and while I love spending time with him, I would sometimes preemptively nudge him to engage. with other kids when we are in public playgrounds. or at the beach or the pool. To that end, when I buy him a water pistol. or an RC car or the like, I'd often just buy two or three. I'd get to the playground and play with him, and when another kid would show interest in the toys, I'd just go, "Oh, you wanna play with us?". and hand him the remote or the pistol or whatever, thus getting the kids to play. This works great quite often and I have.

a generally good relationship. with the parents in our neighborhood. This is also relevant. One day, like a year back, me and my wife were planning. on taking our kid to the pool. I packed my large bag of pool toys. Emma texted me, her husband is away that day. and she's looking for something to do with the kids. I talked to my wife and tell Emma we're going. to our local pool and she's welcome to join us, but we're planning on heading there early. so she can just join us whenever. We arrive at the pool pretty early. and get a really good spot poolside, right by the shallows. I grab some water pistols,

and me and my kid start playing world domination. I'm trying to take over the world. and can only be stopped through the power of water pistols. It's a whole thing, kids love it. Soon, another kid is there. It's a kid from my son's kindergarten class. He's there with his mom. He is, of course, welcome to join us. We know the family, the mom and my wife are pretty friendly. and our kids play together often. So my wife says she wants to go for a swim. and the kid's mom says she wants to join her. and asks me if I'm okay watching the kids. I say sure since by this point. the kids are blasting each other with water pistols. and I'm just chilling poolside, just occasionally having to call out,

"Oh, no, my plans for world domination ruined.". Because sometimes that's just what parenting is. Then Emma and her kids show up. She is really happy to see me. and I give out toys to her kids. All is going well. Then my son's friend runs up and asks for some other toy. and I go, 'Sure thing,' and hand it to him. Emma goes, 'Oh, my God, so cute. He looks just like you.'. I laugh and say, 'Okay, cool, but this isn't my kid.'. Now in her defense, the kid does look kinda like me, making this kind of hilarious. When my wife and the kids' mom come back,

I tell them this story. They also find it hilarious. We all have a friendly chuckle, but think little of it. Fast forward to a few months ago.". - Oh, no, girl, give it up. Grow up, move on. - "I haven't seen Emma in a while. We were at a friend's group gathering. and it was a good time all around. When we're about to call it a day, me and Emma are at the entrance. She's grabbing her stuff. and I'm on my second trip from the car. Kids' toys, kids' clothes, dirty dishes, Tupperware with leftovers I want, et cetera, and I call it to Emma's husband,

'Hey, can you call my wife and kid over? Just make sure it's actually my kid. and not some random kid who kinda looks like me.'. I think it's a hilarious callback. He seems confused and kinda angry. He asks what the hell I'm talking about. Why would he call a random kid? I'm also confused, so I tell him the pool story. He doesn't laugh. Emma doesn't laugh either. The entire thing now feels kind of awkward. I awkwardly say goodbye, go grab my wife and kid myself, and we leave. Later that day, I text Emma to ask. if everything is all right.

I get no reply. I text her again a few days later, no reply. I get the distinct sense I (beep) up. But also, if she doesn't want to talk to me, I'm not gonna force the issue. I leave well enough alone. At worst, I thought she was mad at a joke I made, which was apparently in poor taste. Boy, howdy, did I underestimate the fallout of this joke. A few days ago"-. - Act three, act three, act three. - This goes through time. "A few days ago I arrived at a friend's place. and Emma was there. This is an engagement party, so no kids. I wasn't supposed to come, but decided at the last minute.

and my wife was at home with our kid. Emma sees me and is livid. She wasn't expecting to. She only came because she thought I wouldn't be there. She does, however, take the opportunity to tear me. a new one though. She calls me out in front of everyone because of my joke. Originally said with air quotes. Her husband was furious. From what she said and what I gathered. from mutual friends afterwards, she previously commented. on someone else's kid looking like someone. who wasn't his father, except that whole thing led. to a family drama in Emma's husband's family.

because in that case, that dude was cheating. and that was his kid, and a whole bunch of people were. really hurt in the aftermath. Emma's husband was furious because he apparently thought. she would know better than to comment. on kids looking like people again. - Yep. Absolutely. - Absolutely. - Absolutely. Learn your (beep) lesson. Patterns, Shane, patterns. - Oh, my God. - You either break free or you keep doing the same thing. - I was like, no way this is gonna get good,

and it got good. - It got good, it got good. - This is my wife, Larry David. (Chance and Angela laughing). "This sent them down a spiral, especially because the husband apparently thought. she told me that other family story. and that I was mocking him for his family drama. And he thought the story I told was just covering. for her when I realized I (beep) up. This was not the case. I had no idea that whole thing happened. Still, he didn't believe Emma when she told him. So they are now separated.". - Good golly. (laughing).

(background people laughing). - "She calls me an asshole and says I ruined her marriage. I am not a confrontational person, I apologized profusely. I say, I didn't know, and if she didn't want. me telling the story, she should have said something. She tells me I'm making excuses. This is now a scene. I apologize profusely again and leave quickly. after telling the couple a quick congratulations. I'm later told this was anything. anyone could talk about at the party, and now the engaged couple are mad at me, too. Emma is even more mad because now everyone knows her drama.

I am unfriended and unfollowed on everything. Some friends think I couldn't have known better. and the joke was pretty benign. Other friends say it was. in really poor taste to throw her under the bus. and I am totally the asshole. Emma's best friend, who I also know from college, thinks. I did know about the whole thing with her husband. and now I'm just covering my own ass to get away. with being cruel. It has been a few days, and some of my friends will. no longer talk to me. Others think she is wrong to blame me. and that marriage was doomed anyway.

Still, I feel really guilty about making the joke. and I obviously wouldn't have made it had I known. the trouble it would cause. I like Emma and I didn't wanna hurt her. I also liked her husband. I'd like to say that maybe he was wrong to let. the marriage implode like that because of a stupid joke. But at the same time, I don't really exactly know. his family drama and their history. - Yeah. - Or the specifics of his relationship with Emma. So I can't really say he's wrong for overreacting. The entire thing just kind of sucks. My wife sort of got my back though. She thinks the joke was hilarious and actually thinks. breaking up their marriage makes it even funnier.

because W-T-F? She also loves crazy Reddit stories, so she sent me to post this, so at least I got that going for me, which is nice. So am I the asshole?". - No. - No, this is hilarious, man. - And it's also like, Emma, wake the (beep) up. She is not the reason that your marriage is falling apart. Your marriage was already falling apart. - If you are able, if you are separating. because someone goes, "Oh yeah, your wife said. this kid looked like me.". It's like then your marriage-. - Something's under the hood. - Was so close to breaking.

- Yeah. Yeah, O-P isn't an asshole, he just has a story to tell. - That's crazy. - Yeah. - [Shane] The chances. - It's crazy. - I mean, it happens to people. where you don't realize you're saying a thing. that has so much context that you're unaware of. - I love it. It's like a spell out of nowhere. - It's absolutely a "Seinfeld" episode. This is a "Seinfeld" episode. - It's perfect. - George. This is a George Costanza moment. - You are so right. This is so Larry David coated. - That's absolutely is what it is, where it's like you just didn't know.

you absolutely collapsed the-. - It's exactly what they needed to hear. It is exactly what was supposed to happen. - It's so wild. But God, I would've spiraled, too. I would've been like, I must have. How did I? It's hard when you were the inciting incident, but you weren't. - You weren't the inciting incident. - I mean, kind of was. - No, that thing was ready to tip. - Yeah, it was ready to tip, but it just needed that one little push. - Yeah, but I also, going back a lot,

the husband is mad at his wife. because she said, "Oh, that kid looks like you.". And it actually was his kid and he was cheating. It's like, that's not her fault. That's-. (all laughing). That guy cheated. What the (beep) are we doing here? There's a lot of stuff going on. that I think we need to dial it back. - He already told you, "Stop doing that.". He said, "You have a problem, stop doing that.". - Okay, she, oh, I don't think she said, "This kid looks like you.". I think she goes, "Oh," like-.

- He looks like you. - Oh, she did say that. - He looks like you. Yeah, well, you just started off. - But you know when you (beep) up. and you're like, don't say this, don't say this, don't say this, and you say it? I bet. I don't know, this is crazy. Also, we were really at the pool for so long. - We needed to be at the pool. - I was like something's at the pool. - We needed to be at the pool because we needed to know. why she's making this joke again. - I was like, we're playing world domination. - We didn't need to know about world domination. - We didn't need to know about world domination. - I'm thinking about all the toys. I'm like, how many toys does he have? - Honestly, we didn't need to know a god damn thing. about your son.

- There was a lot of superfluous exposition-. - He didn't show up again. - I was like, so he's sitting on the edge of the pool. and the kids are in the pool and the wives are taking a dip. - Why are you bringing toys? He's homeschooled? I don't care. So what? Get to the story. - All right, we're gonna dial it back. It's 1992, I'm in college. - Yeah, yeah. - All right, comments. Verdict: not the asshole. Comments. "What a cluster (beep). You didn't throw her under the bus, and you're not responsible for her marital problems. Emma should take responsibility. for her own actions and (beep) ups. She also created drama at the engagement party, and the couple should be furious at her, not you.

Not the asshole.". Someone said, "Not the asshole. You knew nothing about Emma's issues. with her husband's family. Emma should not have made a scene at the engagement party. She was at fault here. She was at fault there. You should have told. the happy couple to take it up with Emma. Emma and the happy couple are assholes. for looking to blame their issues on you.". Update. - Oh. (Chance vocalizing). - Oh, my God. - Wait, really? - What, Shane? - [Angela] Do they go back to the pool? - This guy loves his exposition, so I think we're about to get more. - Oh, my God. - I hope we go back to the pool.

- We had to abbreviate this for time and I'm looking at it. and it's "A Hundred Years of Solitude". - Okay. - Literature joke. (Chance booing). - Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to boo you. - Update. So after posting yesterday, reading replies, and thinking it over, I decided to reach out. to Emma one final time. Some of you thought I shouldn't and that these were, in fact, not my monkeys. Others made me realize that Emma was probably. in a shitty situation with her husband and his family. and was actively being gaslit.

So last night before going to bed, I texted her a long, thoughtful message. I explained that I do apologize. for the part I played in ruining her marriage. and I understand she's going through a tough time. I understand if she wants nothing more to do with me, but if and when she feels she wants to talk it out, she is welcome to reach out. and I leave the ball in her court. Emma shows up at my house at around seven AM unannounced. I ask, "What the (beep)?". She says, she really needs to talk to me. I call my wife to the door and explain this.

She sends me off with this woman. because she understands this shit can only go poorly. and apparently, she is here for it. and it's my own fault at this point. So as I said, from my perspective, we were friends, we drifted apart. From her perspective-. - Is Emma in love with him? - Also, wait, it's a man? - I don't know anything. - O-P's a man. - Okay. - And we're at the pool. - Yeah. O-P's a man. So, okay. "So as I said, from my perspective, we were friends, we drifted apart.

From Emma's perspective, for the last 15 years, she has been playing some weird game of 4D chess. or two different games of 4D chess.". - Or a game of world domination. - No. - "Apparently, she had feelings for me back in college. and she was trying to nice girl her way into a relationship. with me by being there for me when my dad died. and when I was struggling with being single. She always gave everything because she just assumed I would,

at some point, come around. You'd think that me getting married. or her getting married would change that, and it did, just badly. Apparently her husband knew about her feelings, which is why he always kept me at a distance. We never drifted apart. He explicitly asked her not to meet with me anymore. outside of large social gatherings. That day at the pool? Yeah, that was her sticking it to him. because he was away cheating on her or something, and he didn't like her hanging around me scantily clad.

It wasn't just that he was upset at the joke. He was upset because apparently I was having an affair. with his wife and rubbing it in his face.". - Ow. - "Makes no sense? I know.". It gets worse. (Chance screeching). "That thing at the wedding. Well, at least she didn't plan that. I told our friends getting engaged that I wasn't coming. She asked and verified this. She wasn't expecting to see me, and they told her I wouldn't be there. But once I showed up, she decided to exploit it.

She intended to have a huge scene with me. so that she could tell her estranged husband. and friends that I ambushed her. because she broke off our affair. Our affair! Apparently we had an affair. (Angela laughing). Oh, what affair is that, you ask? I did, too. Apparently the story some people got was. that she and I were having an affair. and it ended and I was stalking her. Her husband left her because he found out.

So people more inclined to believe her just thought. that was what happened and wanted. nothing to do with me anymore. So why did her husband actually leave? Well, some of you called it. According to her, he was cheating on her a bunch, and overall, not a nice person. She never actually cheated on him, but used me to pretend. that she did without my knowledge. So after the joke at the gathering, which may have indeed been in poor taste, they had a huge fight, and he left the house. As for the thing with his family, from what I gather, it was some dude sleeping.

with his cousin's wife or some shit.". It's like, okay, so there's that story anyways. "So anyway, she tells me all this insanity and tops it off. with that my message really moved her, and we can still be friends. The reason she rushed to show up at seven AM? My message made her realize I am actually. the only one who really cares about her. and everyone else in her life is fake and don't really care. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but now this sounds. like some really manipulative shit to me. And now I'm thinking back to a lot. of our previous interactions. and a lot of them also seem like that to me now.

I am not a confrontational person, but this? (beep) no. I was done. I tell her I am done with her shit. She can get back to her husband, leave her husband, keep any friends she wants because I am (beep) done. I can forgive a lot, but she had. basically been not communicating with me for over 15 years. I was telling her everything about my life and my feelings, and I was absolutely appalled by just how much. of a one-way street it turned out to be. I feel like I didn't even really know her.

So that's that. There will probably not be any more updates. because this was meant to be a lighthearted post. and it turned into a total cluster (beep). and I'm just so tired and so sad. I'm sorry if this wasn't as readable. or as coherent as my previous post. This just happened and I'm just exhausted. My wife has been very supportive, though I assume at some point I'm due. some well-earned I told you so's. She knows there wasn't an affair and certainly no stalking. and most of my friends probably know that, too. I may try reaching out to some others. because, well, I don't know,

maybe they were told even worse things about me, but I am just done with this. And now I'm going to spend what's left of this weekend. with my family and try to put this shit behind me. Thank you all for reading and for your advice.". - Wow. - This is like an update for all updates. - Yeah, that's pretty incredible. - Oh, my God. - Emma has lost it. - A ton of layers. - Yeah. - Wow! - Emma needs to get. - Thank God he said that. It unveiled a whole conspiracy. - Yeah, yeah. - Wow.

There's a lot going on. - I know if that never happened. - He'd have never known that he was stalking her. (Shane and Angela laughing). - Or that he was having an affair. - That he was like, hey, man, you're having an affair and you didn't know it. - Wow. - That was crazy. I'm speechless. I'm like, wow. Meanwhile his wife is like, put it on Reddit, this is crazy. Put it on Reddit, this is crazy. - [Chance] Yeah, Put it on Reddit. - Yeah, put it on Reddit. - I was like, this is wild. Oh, my God. - But is that kid at the pool his son?

- Who's to say/ - Maybe. - That's crazy. I feel for him, but he's doing everything he needs to do. He's just writing it out, and he's talking to his-. - [Chance] His communicators. - Put it into the universe. - Yeah. - [Shane] Make it real. - [Chance] Doing some bits here and there. - I feel really bad for that girl. I feel really bad for her. - Who? - I wanna feel bad for her. I feel bad for her for being cheated on. But don't go telling all these lies. - No, yeah, no. She's a liar and yeah, but I feel. I feel bad that she's just so not based.

in reality right now. - [Shane] Yeah, yeah. - It's like when people. I remember, yeah, just like when people so overthink things. or add meaning to something and that nothing was there, nothing happened, That was just shared eye contact. and a shared joke or whatever. That doesn't mean you guys are in love. Oh. - Anyways. Well, thank you both for being here. - Thank you for having us. This was a very good group.

- Yeah, these were some good stories. - This was a great group. - Thank you for watching. Let us know what other themes. and subreddits you wanna see here. and let us know your opinions on these stories. because there's a lot to interpret here. - Yeah. - I'm gonna be mulling these ones over. - Yeah, this one's gonna take me like a week. - Yeah. No, a month from now, I'll be like, think about it. - Like at the pool, it all happened. - Oh, my God, it's all making sense now. - Can we just go back to the pool, please? - Let's just go back to the pool. All right, we'll see you next weekend. Goodbye.

- Bye.