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- Hello, welcome to "Reddit Stories". I'm Shayne. And today it's all about travel. And I'm joined by two weary travelers, Ian and Amanda. - Hello. - So travel stories. - So these stories are all about travel. We've done travel stories before. A lot of drama happens in regards to travel, you know. Who you go on a trip with, how trips go, planes. - Passport bros. - We did travel stories together. - Yeah. - Here. Right here on Reddit. - Coming back for the sequel.
- And now we're doing it again. Have you recently traveled at all? - You know I have. - Yeah. Okay. - Yes, I've traveled a lot this year. I went to Florida. - Oh, wow. - I went to Cape Cod. - Ooh. - And then I went to Greece. - And you talked about this on "Smosh Mouth", but going on your trip with your family, there was a little bit of drama here and there. - Yeah, yeah. There's four sisters and one mother. (Shayne laughs). That's five Portuguese women in one place. - It's a lot of-.
- All trying to choose dinner. That's a lot. Where did you travel to, bud? - Well, my passport was expired for a whole year. - Wow. - What? How did you let that happen? - It just happened. One day I looked at my passport, I went, "Oh, this is old.". And then, you know, I didn't want to, like I tried to get it renewed and like went to FedEx. and I was like, "I heard you guys renew passports.". And they're like, "No, we don't.". And I was like, "Okay.". So it just kind of sat in my room for a while,
and then I did it online. It was super duper easy. - Whoa. Really? - Yeah. - Okay. - I took my passport photo here at the office. with like crappy light and they accepted it. - They're like, "Smosh?". - Yeah. Photo doesn't look great. But I got my passport, so I'm ready to travel the world. - Hell yeah. Okay. - Where are you going? Are you gonna go somewhere? Have you planned? - I want to go to Austria, but I feel like I kind of, like I want to go like when it's like green. and there's waterfalls, and I feel like now it's probably gotten snowy.
- Our first one comes from Am I The Asshole. "Am I the asshole for refusing. "when my friend wanted to join my fiance and I. "on our first trip together?". Hear 'em out. "I, a 22-year-old woman, and my fiance, a 23-year-old man, "are going on our first trip together. "I'm really excited as this is my first time on a plane. "and even leaving the state I've lived in my whole life. "We've been planning for this trip since earlier this year, "and we've gotten our tickets as well as accommodations. "Altogether we've already spent about $4,500 on everything,
"which has been something we've been saving for. "as we're both college students. "Our trip is in about a month, "and in come's my friend, we'll call her Ashley, she's 22, "who's been my friend for about a year. "She'd brought up going to Japan as well kind of jokingly. "when we told her about the trip. "I didn't think she was serious, "but then she brought it up a few more times, even saying. "that she had a family member she could stay with. "She asked if she could spend some time. "during the days joining us on our adventures. "while this family member was at work. "I was supportive of this idea.
"as I know this would be her first time in Japan as well. "and I care about her. "However, when she told me she wanted to get the tickets, "her family member no longer would have space. "for her to stay. "She wants to know if she can stay in our accommodations. "and join us on our flight back home. "I let her know that our accommodation has strict rules. "against having more than two people, "and there's only one small bed in this studio. "She said she'd be fine sleeping anywhere on the floor. "or couch, et cetera. "I told her I'd be more comfortable. "if we didn't chance a fee or getting in trouble in general, "as I really just want a comfortable stay.
"I told her that we're still willing to spend time with her. "during the day, "and I began sending her accommodations in her budget. "I was hoping this would be enough. "Instead she's just asking. "if we can cancel our accommodations. "and pay for larger accommodations. "that can have a bed for her as well. "Mind you, she's not saying she will help us pay. "for the more expensive accommodation. "or anything else for that matter. "She simply just wants to stay with us. "and for us to pay for a different accommodation. "It seems like no matter what I say, "she just keeps trying to manipulate me. "into letting her stay with us. "This is also hard.
"'cause I know my fiance and I really. "wanted this to be a romantic trip for us both. "as we likely won't be able to afford another. "for a few years as we finish school. "I'm just stuck on what to say or do. "and if I'm the asshole here. "Should I be okay with my friend staying. "in our accommodations and joining in our trip?". - I can't with this one. - [Ian] Wow. - I mean, it's 'cause they're 22. I mean, come on. - I feel like there's just like zero self-awareness. - Some people just aren't self-aware. - I think, yes, I agree. But also immediately would've been like, "No.".
- Yeah. Oh. - No. - Yeah. - No. - I don't understand also, even from the start of this. when it's like, "Oh yeah, my fiance and I. "are going on our first trip together.". The thought of going, "Can I join?". - Yeah, I wanna sleep. - Like, as a joke-. - That sounds really cool. - I'll sleep on the floor. Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. And this isn't the first time we've had stories. where people are going on a trip and someone is like, "Can I join your trip out of country?". I understand being invited on someone's trip,
but unless it's like-. - People do it a lot. - Unless it's siblings or like your absolute best friend, I don't understand, I would never-. - People do it a lot. - [Shayne] I would never do that. - I tried to come to Greece with her and her sisters. - Yeah, and I was like, "You can't 'cause the accommodations are so strict.". - And then when you were there in Greece, all of a sudden it was like, "Wait, who's this fourth sister?". - I was like, "Hi. "I am also a Canto.". (everyone laughs). - Fifth sister. That would've been five sisters and one mother.
That would've been six people! - And your mom is like, "Ian's been my favorite daughter for years.". - I'm the short one. - Where do you wanna. go to dinner, Ian? - I'm the short Canto. - (beep)-o? - Canto. - I can't believe this. - And here's the thing. People weirdly do that. They'll be like, "Oh my god. "Well, we've always wanted to go to Japan, "and maybe we'll meet you there, or I'll meet you there.". It's always this weird tricky thing, and the worst thing to do is to be like, "No, you cannot come to this country. "that I have no ownership of, but also, no.".
- Well, and the prospect. of like being on a trip to a country and if you have friends. who are also gonna be there around the same time, but you're doing-. - Sure. - You're going on two separate trips to the same place. is what it originally sounded like. So it's like, "Oh, I have a family member there. "I'll go stay with them.". But as soon as that doesn't work, it's like, oh, then I'm sorry, your trip is not working out. You were never on our trip to Japan. - Also, this is her first time. leaving the state. - Leaving the state. - [Amanda] Getting on a plane. - That's super special. - It's super special.
And she wants to spend it with her fiance. - Also put two and two together. You're not gonna sleep on the floor. in their small accommodations. - They gotta (beep). - Like... - That's what I was gonna say. - Sorry. - And then I thought I was gonna get in trouble for it. - I wouldn't want that. Like, if I'm talking to friends, even if this had all been planned. and I was invited to go with them-. - I probably would've said no. - I'd have been like, "Oh, well I have to find my own accommodations.". I'm not staying in the same room as a couple. - Can you imagine sleeping on the floor and then going like, "No kissing. "Guys, I can hear you." - Ew. What are you guys doing?
- Yeah. Ew. The blankets are all moving and your legs are in the air. (everyone laughs). - And then they wake up, they wake up in the middle of the night, and I'm standing at the foot of the bed, and I'm just like, "I fwowed up.". (everyone laughs). - I fwowed up. - I fwowed up. - A lot of times. I don't feel good. - 'Cause like it does kind of remind me. of when I was in Japan for one reason. and you and Damien were in Japan for another reason. - Yeah. - [Amanda] Oh. - And we were in Tokyo at the same time and we met up.
- Yeah. - You know, we met up a few times, but it was like-. - [Shayne] Yeah, it's great. - We had our own thing that we were doing. - Totally. - We met up in Kauai. - Yeah, we did. Yeah. - For lunch. - We're on the same-. - Ian happens to always be... - That's so weird. Actually, he was in Greece, and he was in Florida. He was surfing on a wave and I was like, "Hello?". - He's there in the lake like an alligator. - [Ian] Yeah. Yeah. - Amanda. - I think what's happening here is OP is similar to me. where they're afraid of confrontation. They're afraid of saying no to someone. But something I've learned-.
- Shayne, you would've said no though. - Oh yeah. Well, 'cause at a certain point too, you get to the point where you go, "Oh, I just know. "I don't think this is a big deal. "This is not offensive to say no. "So if they're offended, that's their problem.". - Yeah. - But it's just no. It's just simply No. And I think it's not too late for them to even go-. - You know what? No. - We kinda actually want this to be a romantic thing. for just the two of us. I think we're gonna go do our own thing. - Yeah. - And we don't really wanna... - Here's what I'm thinking.
I'm thinking OP's friend, it seems like stepping on eggshells. because if they're that close, it seems like the friend gets mad about... And also remember there's always a friend. who gets kind of either cool or upset with a couple. It's kind of always like a weird line there. - Yeah. Interesting. - Not the asshole in my opinion. - Oh, definitely not the asshole. - Yeah. - Definitely not the asshole. Comments here. "Not the asshole, but you will be if you allow her to go. "This was to be a romantic trip for you and your boyfriend.
"She invited herself, "claiming she had someone she could stay with. "This was probably false all along, "and she waited until the last minute. "to ask if she could stay with you, "thinking she could guilt you into it. "Then when you told her no, "she wanted you to pay for a larger accommodation. "so she could stay but she offered you no money. "Chances are she also has no money for accommodations. "or food and planned to mooch off you and your boyfriend-". - Oh my god. - "On all your sightseeing and meals. "Just tell her no, you are not willing. "for her to join at all. "Maybe sometime in the future, "but this is just a trip for you and your boyfriend.".
That could all be true. We don't know. Some people are also, there are people out there who are just-. - Travelers. - Unaware. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Unaware and totally just like not thinking things through. - Yeah. - I'm not saying that's what this commenter. is saying isn't true. It could be, but that wouldn't be my initial thought. It also doesn't matter. You say no. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Someone else said, "Not the asshole, but this is a no-brainer. "You aren't being honest with her. "Stop using accommodations as an excuse. "and tell her the truth.
"This is your first trip with your fiance. "The two of you have planned it carefully. "for just the two of you. "Your plans are final. "They cannot be changed. "You look forward to traveling with her in the future. "but not on this trip. "If she was truly a close friend, "she would have had the good sense. "not to try and force herself on you. "You haven't known her very long at all. "You may just now be seeing the real her. "If she doesn't drop the subject immediately, then drop her. "She's an acquaintance, not a friend.". Oh. So that's-. - Drop her? - Let's see. Did they-. - I thought it was like best friend? - [Ian] She didn't know her for very long.
- "In comes my friend Ashley, "who's been a friend about a year.". - Oh. - Oh. - That's a lot for after a year. - [Ian] Yeah. - A year. Maybe it's not like every day kind of friend. - That's shocking though for that quick. - But I think like the mooching thing. kind of has me a little bit, like I somewhat suspect that. - Now with that amount of time, that does fit a lot better. - They're also still in college, they said?
- Yeah. Yeah. Something that I also think their behavior. where they're trying to find physical reasons. why this person can't come on, it seems like this is someone. who's not respecting her feelings. - Yeah. - 'Cause, you know, it's okay to use your feelings. as a reasoning for something, being like, "You know, I want this to be my husband and I. "That's my reasoning. "It's not our accommodation. "We could be staying in a five room hotel room, "but I want it to just be my husband and I," but this-. - We have to use all five rooms to bang in.
- She's clearly afraid of using just her emotions. as a reason. - Nice. - Sorry. - 'Cause this person clearly is gonna go, "That's not a reason.". - Yeah. - I don't know. This person's not respecting 'em. - She has to tell her. - Lastly, someone said, "Ashley, it seems like a lot of things you were counting on. "for this trip are falling through. "I think you'd better try again later. "when things line up for you. "Fiance and I will be taking this couple's trip. "without you.". Like, that's what she should say. - Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with what you're saying. about like just speaking to your feelings about-.
- Just being like, "I want this to just be my husband and I.". - Yeah. There's no real wiggle room with that. - Yeah, and if you can't respect that, then that's (beep) up. - Then you're not gonna be friends for very long. Please tell me there's an update. - Update. - Oh! - Okay, what do we think? Do we think it's a mooching situation or do we think it's-. - Okay, I think the roommate, I think the two of them went there. and the roommate was at the hotel like, "Hey guys!". (everyone laughs). Roomies! - That's what you do.
- Yeah, but I mean, it's our fun little thing, Amanda. - I know. - It's our thing that we have that he does every time. - We were on the flight to Kauai, and I was walking down the aisle and I went... - Huh? - That really happened. - That really did happen. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. - I care. - Doesn't seem like you do. - I care. - It seems like you're not listening to our feelings. - Yeah, Shayne. - Shayne. Let's all go to Japan together. - You know, feelings matter. Feelings matter in these situations, Shayne. - I think there's some like jealousy. with the girls. - With the fiance.
- Yeah, the girl's getting married and maybe she's not. She's like, "Well, I'm your friend too. "And like we always do things together. "And then he came along.". But then again-. - But she's only been their friend for a year. - I know. - But maybe she's in love. - I was kind of reading this through. thinking like this is a 10-year friend. - 10-year friend. No. - Which makes a lot more sense. But a year in? - It's either that or mooching. Can I have both options? - Sure. - [Amanda] Okay. - All right. "I ended up refusing for the 10th time. "and told her no bluntly and as clearly as possible. "I also made sure to say.
"that I wasn't down with changing anything. "and that I wanna spend time with only my fiance, "that I've been trying to nicely say no, "but I don't appreciate getting manipulated. "nor having my partner's and I's feelings ignored. "She said, 'We've been talking about this trip for so long, "'why didn't we just work it out earlier? "'It's not my fault that this is last minute. "'Why won't you just do this one? "'It's not much different. "'There's just an extra bed.'. "And she sent me a link to a specific accommodation. "where the two beds are side by side by the way.". (everyone laughs).
- Stop. - "She basically ignored what I said. "So I have ignored her since. "We're in the same friend group, "so I think it's probably going to get weird. "But honestly I'm okay with that. "Regardless of how that goes, "my fiance and I'll be going alone. "and not meeting up with her. "or anyone anywhere during our trip. "I'm going to work on the saying no thing. "and setting harder boundaries. "I just had an abusive upbringing, "and I'm still working on it all. "I keep needing to remind myself. "that I'm not in that place anymore.". She's not the only 22-year-old out there. who's really bad at saying no. Like, I was horrendous at it at that age.
I had to come up with all these reasons to say no to people. instead of just saying no. It's okay. - Well, it's hard because some people make you feel bad. about being honest. - Yeah. - Also, the two beds together? Like, girl, move on. - Yeah. What the hell, man? - Move on. - What? - 10 times? - 10 times is wild. - I cannot stand people who don't take no for an answer. Like, it is enough of a reason for me to slowly drift away. from someone because I-.
- Yeah. - It's like the most basic like form of disrespect. that people can do. It's like you go like, "Oh no. No thanks.". And then they're just like, "Yeah, but I'm not gonna listen to that.". - You're not really like thinking about this. - It's just like, "Hey man, just listen to that.". - Truly. - That's all. That's all. - Tell me there's pictures of them in Japan. - No. - [Ian] Did they have a good time? - Whoa! (everyone laughs). They got pictures. - It's them and it's the girl in the background like this. Like "The Grudge". - Well, that's, all right. - That's it? - That's it. - Wow.
- Well, she did the right thing. - She did the right thing. - Okay. - Yes. - We're happy for her. - [Shayne] Our next story, - We're happy for her. - Our next story is a doozy. - Let's go. - Okay. - I've read this one. and it is dumb. - Whoa. - Dumb. - Okay. (laughs). - Okay, here we go. This was on Am I The Asshole. and it got reposted onto Am I The Devil. So this is a real piece of shit here. - Ooh. - "Am I the asshole for parting. "with my friend midway through a Grand Canyon hike?". (Amanda laughs). - Sorry. Partying or-. - Parting. - Partying. Parting.
- Like, I am parting ways with you now. - Splitting from my friend. - Can you imagine partying. in the middle of the Grand Canyon? - Seems pretty sick. - That's true. - Set up some speakers, some lights. - Oh, sick. - Partying in the Grand Canyon, dope. - [Ian] Would be sick. Yeah. - I wanna do that. - Unless there's a flash flood. - Yeah. - Yeah. - "My friend Crystal and I spent six months planning. "and training for a very intense all day hike. "of the Grand Canyon. "We would go down South Kaibab. "and up Bright Angel on Crystal's birthday in June, "which would be over 100 degrees.
"Two weeks before the hike, "our friend Valerie said she wanted to join us. "Valerie looks way fitter than us. "She does CrossFit and has a six pack, "and we assumed she would be fine. "On the trip leading up to the hike, "Valerie was eating salad. "while Crystal and I were carb loading with pasta and pizza. "Crystal and I each bought four liters of water, trail mix, "and granola bars. "and believed Valerie had packed her bag with the same. "as it was all in the hotel room for all of us to share. "when we packed up the night before. "About half the way down, "Crystal and I realized that at the pace Valerie was going, "and thus the rest of us,
"we would not finish the hike before sundown. "We told Valerie about our concerns, "and she said we should just hike ahead without her. "and that she would either catch up. "or if it was too much turn back. "We asked if she was really sure about it. "and she said she was, so off we went. "When we got to the bottom of the canyon, "we waited for about an hour at the Colorado River, "but did not see her. "At that point, we really had to get going, "so we would finish the trail before nightfall. "We tried to call her from a payphone, "but got her voicemail. "None of us had reception. "We explained the situation to a ranger,
"and they said they'd look out for her. "When we were close to the top. "and it was actually already dark, "we got reception and got messages from her. "that she had collapsed. "and had to stay at the lodge at the bottom of the canyon. "The lodge is booked months out, "but I guess they hold some emergency beds. "She would hike out the next day with another group. "and said not to worry about her. "Both Crystal and I were totally destroyed physically, "but we got in the car, went and demolished a pizza, "then went to sleep at the hotel. "Oddly we found half of Valerie's water. "and all of Valerie's food at the hotel.
"I don't wanna make too many assumptions about her, "but I think it's clear enough to say. "that it seemed clear she didn't know how to eat. "during or before a hike despite our guidance. "The next day, Valerie said she would be up by 3:00 PM. "I was planning to pick her up. "However, the one update we got from her. "was that she would be hours late. "6:00 PM rolled around and she still wasn't up. "I left her a voicemail letting her know. "we needed to continue onto our next hotel one hour away. "We were both feeling really beat up, "and I didn't think I would have the energy. "to do the drive much later. "I told her in the voicemail.
"that I'd pay for her to Uber to the hotel, "just tell me how much it was. "At around 10:00 PM Valerie called me furious. "It took her over 13 hours to hike up. "and she almost didn't make it. "She was suffering from sunstroke. "She said she could have died because we abandoned her, "and we were really selfish not to stay with her.". - Okay. - This is the dumbest shit. - I'm in a nightmare right now. - So all of the stupidness is allowing her to go on this. - Yeah. - Yeah. - 'Cause people who don't hike regularly.
probably underestimate how intense it is. Also the Grand Canyon, I think for a lot of people, they think like, oh, you hike down into the canyon, back up. It's like, it's massive. - That's what, 2,000 feet? - Gigantic. - Can I be honest, I hiked the Grand Canyon when I was seven-. - [Ian] And it was easy? - In Keds. There's home video of it. - (beep) yeah, dude. - And I was like, "Mom, why didn't you pack me good shoes?". She was like, "I forgot.". - We also don't know which hike they're doing. There's a million hikes.
- It sounds like they're doing an aggressive one. I think it was called Blue Angel? - Yeah. South Kaibab to whatever Angel. But this is the thing, they're like, "Oh, she's really fit.". It's like, yeah, but-. - Doesn't matter. - There's fit and then there's like hiking shape. - There's endurance fit. - I mean, unless she needs to do a bunch of... - Yeah. (laughs). - On a ledge. - We have to climb up the side of the cliff. And she's just like leaping up. - She has to clear a fucking rock. - It's a completely like, it's its own unique thing. I mean, it's really-. - She wasn't prepared. - It was really dumb of them to accept.
Like, they should have been like, "No. Like, I'm sorry. "We've been planning this for months. "We've been training for months. "We don't feel comfortable bringing on someone that we-". - 'Cause she didn't train with them. - No. This is two weeks before. - And that's dangerous. - Super dangerous. - [Amanda] Super dangerous. - No, it's like, I'm sorry. This is 100 degree weather, an intense hike. We have to be accountable for each other. - I don't think it was great for them to leave her behind. - I was gonna say that. - Oh no, no, no, no. Leaving her behind is the dumbest thing of it all. - Even if she said "leave me behind,".
you never leave someone alone. - No. It's 100 degrees. You're doing an intense hike. - And you know better than anybody. - I know better than anyone. 'cause my brother and I got lost on a hike once. But it's one of the rules. You don't go off trail, and you don't leave anyone alone. - [Amanda] Ever. - And the second they had that, but she's not an experienced hiker, she's going, "Oh no, go on without me.". At that point they go, "No, we have to turn back. "We simply have to. "We're not gonna make it there. "We three are one unit.
"We're not gonna make it together, so we're turning back. "I'm sorry.". - [Amanda] Sorry. - So then was this like a loop? It wasn't like an out and back? - It sounds like an out and back to me. - 'Cause they would've passed her in that case. - Oh, you're right. - It had to have been- - It wasn't an out and back. - It is a loop. And maybe it's down one side out the other. - Well, they went down to the Colorado River. and then they must have gone up a completely-. - They go up a different side. - That took her 13 hours. - Yeah. Well, yeah, she's probably hiking really slow. - Also she had sunstroke. - Sunstroke, dude. - She was (beep).
- Oh, absolutely destroyed. And they left her twice, 'cause they get up, they abandoned her there which is really dumb, they get to the bottom, they go, "Well, we gotta keep going,". so they abandoned her again, and then at the top they're like, "Well, we gotta get to our next hotel.". They abandoned her three times. - Why do you-. - That's crazy. - Why do you have to get to your next? - I was gonna say that. - They're like, "We gotta go smash a pizza, dude.". - Demolish a pizza. Honey, you've demolished too many pizzas. - No, they're really inconsiderate. Like, this is why it's dumb. It's like you clearly didn't care that much. about bringing this person on your hike. - Also, getting an Uber from somewhere.
near the Grand Canyon to your next hotel, that's gonna cost more than just booking a new hotel. - Just stay for a second. - We're in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. Get an Uber. - Just wait for her. - Like, just literally wait and be like, "Hey, we're not gonna arrive till 10:00 PM. "Our friend has (beep) heat stroke.". - Yeah. This is all insane. And also the fact that they were on the hike. and then they were like, "Oh, we realized like we gave her guidance. "and she didn't bring anything.". It's like before you leave that morning be like,
"What's in your pack?". - Yeah. - Like, what are you bringing? - Show us what's in your pack. - Like, straight up though. I'm like, you guys didn't actually give much. of a shit about this. - No. They're like, "Uh-oh, she didn't pack. "Well, here we go.". It's like... - It's mind blowing to me. I mean, like she could have died. Like, straight up could have died. This is what could have realistically happened. They abandon her, she's by herself and she just falls, like falls somewhere, and she's by herself. Like, that's what happens. Like, when my brother and I got lost, and we were lost for like a whole day,
I was immediately realizing like, it was such a wake up call for me. of like what's actually scary in nature. 'cause I was not scared of bears or wolves or anything. - Badass. - No, you're not. You're scared of falling- - Running out of water. - Well, and we did run out of water very quickly. - You're scared of falling. - Which was like, oh, since then, since getting lost, I'm like, I'm bringing so much (beep) water with me. But also I'm like, if I just fall and break my ankle. - [Ian] Yeah. - And I'm like, and now my brother. has to just go on for hours and find someone.
and then come back and find my exact location. - That is so scary. - Like, I was like, oh, that's how you die in the middle of nowhere. And that's why you never leave someone by themselves. - No. - This is so stupid. - Especially the Grand Canyon. Lots of people die in the Grand Canyon. - Oh my god. Yeah. Well, it's 100 degrees, and it's treacherous. - [Ian] Yeah, that's nuts. - This is maybe the dumbest story I've ever read on this. - I mean, everybody was pretty dumb. - There's a lot of stupidness. But these experienced hikers-. - Yeah, they should've known better. - Leaving someone by themselves. who they know is an inexperienced hiker is the craziest.
- Sounds like they weren't experienced, 'cause if they were, they would never leave someone behind. - No, that's true. They trained, but I don't think they're-. - They trained for themselves. - Yeah, I don't even know how they could walk off. and be fine with it. - I bet she was embarrassed and was like, "Please go.". - Totally. - And even if it gets to that point, it's like no. - But it's just a hard line rule. It's a hard line rule of you just don't do that. - [Ian] Yeah. - Especially these conditions. 100 degrees?
I don't care where you are. You could be like anywhere, and if it's 100 degrees, you're not gonna leave someone behind. - Yeah, and also like if she was under equipped, what did they leave her with? - Yeah, well they said they didn't, until they got back to the hotel room. and saw that most of her food was there. Most of the water and food was there. That they're like, oh, she must not have brought anything. - Well, didn't they all leave together? - Were you not checking on her at all before you left? - Yeah. - This is just shocking to me. - [Ian] It's just weird. - Just say no to this person.
Like, why did you do any of this? They kind of just seem like they don't give a shit. about her at all. - No, 'cause this is their dream to do this hike, they've been training for it, and that's all they cared about. - But then say no to this person. - Not that I'm excusing what they did. - But say no to her then. When she's like, "Can I join the hike? "It's two weeks out," just like, "No, you can't.". - But how old are they? 22? - It doesn't say their ages. It doesn't say their ages. - I'm gonna guess late 20s. - Yeah, me too. - Early 30s. - But like obviously this wouldn't be the same level,
but like imagine if you were like training for a marathon. and then like a week before I'm like, "Yeah, can I join?". It would just be like, "No, man.". - Mile one, you're like, "Go on without me.". - Yes, you can. - Yes. Join, Shayne. - Some comments here. - I know what that means. - "When you were noticing she was eating salad, "I would've stopped her immediately. "Better yet, don't invite people to go on difficult trails. "that you don't know are experienced enough. "to have the long endurance required. "Why not make sure she packed her food and water? "So many opportunities here to back out or advise.
"Since you did invite her. "and have her as part of your group, "you also took on the responsibility. "of making sure she doesn't die. "Never leave your team on the trail. "Take her back up. "Send her to the hotel. "Anything except just leave her. "You're the asshole. "Next time don't take people with you. "on potentially deadly hikes.". - Whoa. Mic drop. - So true. Someone else said, "You're the asshole. "for trying to do a rim to river and back day hike in June. "That's really dangerous.". - Whoa. - The hike itself sounds insane. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Someone else said, "You're the asshole.
"That's how people die at the Grand Canyon. "You shouldn't have let her come. "If you let her come, "you don't ever abandon someone like that.". - I fully agree. - Whoa. Getting roasted. - Once you say yes, they are your responsibility. You're fully responsible for them. They had so many opportunities. - I must've done that exact hike in my Keds. That must have been the hike that I did. - Must've been the one. - Yeah, I did that barefoot, and it was easy. - It was actually pretty easy. - I was six. I climbed-. - And I'm pretty sure it was 110 degrees when I did it. - Yeah, which is crazy. - And the Colorado River was rushing,
so we had to swim across it. - And I went in, (beep) nose dived in there. - Yeah, and I did it no problem. - Yeah. - [Shayne] Yeah, it was pretty easy. - I even caught a fish while I was down there. - Oh, with my teeth. - Yeah. - Yeah, it was like 150 degrees. - [Amanda] Yeah, it was crazy. - And I didn't have any water, but I was fine. - Yeah. So anyways, what's going on with these kids? (everyone laughs). - So dumb! - Is there an update? - No. - They got heat stroke from all that roasting. - Yeah, baby. - [Shayne] Straight up. - Nice. - I can't believe that, dude. - That is dumb dumb dumb.
- So dumb. - That's why when people are like, you know, in Kauai, speaking of Kauai, you know how they put on the rocks. like how many people died in this area? - [Ian] Yeah. - That's what they do in attractions. They're like, "This is how many tourists have died here. "Good luck.". Because they're just like, "Don't do dumb things.". - Yeah. - But so many people do. And then those like beautiful parts of nature. that is Kauai get shut down, and it's just, I don't know. - People underestimate nature. I think hiking especially people underestimate.
because if you do it right, and most of the time hikes can feel very chill. and very like, oh, how could that be dangerous? That was such a nice day. - Yeah. - But it's like one small thing goes wrong. and a hike turns into the deadliest shit. you've ever dealt with. - Yep. - No, when my brother and I got lost, and it started off very dumb, it started off with, our camp is probably down there, so if we cut off the trail here. Cut to 12 hours later us hiking. - So scary.
- You straight up did Donner Party. - Dude, actually. It was so dumb. And ever since then, it's like never. - Never again. - [Shayne] I don't care. - Don't go off trail. - No. Ego will get you killed on a hike. - Yeah. - All right. Moving on to our next story. Our next story is an old one. - Oh. - A 10-year-old story. - Old time. - But sometimes these old ones are the craziest. - He's gonna be talking. about watching "The Big Bang Theory". - [Amanda] Yeah, I was gonna say. - Yeah. Okay. We're watching "Game of Thrones". This show is always gonna be good. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(everyone laughs). - This comes from r/Relationships. This is a 24-year-old man. "My girlfriend, who's 21, "wants to go on an out of state camping trip alone. "with another guy, who's also 24.". Okay. - Okay. - Hot. (Shayne laughs). - [Amanda] Got it. - Hot. "So I love my girlfriend and I do trust her, "but every girlfriend I've ever had has cheated on me, "and I'm terribly insecure about her spending alone time. "with someone in a situation like this. "We've been together for two years now.
"I met her my senior year of college. "because my college town was her hometown. "I moved up to her college town to live with her. "after I graduated, and I found a great job there. "For months, she's been talking about us going to Maine. "to camp for a week for vacation. "with one of her best friends, let's call him Kyle, "and his girlfriend. "I've never met Kyle. "since my girlfriend lives two hours from him now. "But she was very open with me when I asked her about him. "He's been one of her closest friends since middle school. "They liked each other for a bit through the years, "and the summer after she graduated high school, "she had sex with him, but it never went anywhere.
"because she was going to school, "and he ended up meeting this girl, "his current girlfriend, let's call her Anna, soon after. "They've been together since. "So I was all down for a couple's trip. "Well, recently I found out the week they had planned, "I'm being sent out of state for business. "and can't take it off, "and now Kyle's girlfriend can't go either, "so it will just be my girlfriend and Kyle. "on the coast of Maine, "camping and spending alone time together for a week. "I asked her what Anna thinks of this, "and she said she's only met Anna a few times, "that she knows my girlfriend.
"and her boyfriend had a sexual past, "but that it's okay because she trusts him. "and knows how excited my girlfriend and him are to catch up. "and see a new state. "I wanna tell her no, but I can't be that boyfriend. "It's the only week she has off. "between summer and fall semester. "And she said her friend Kyle is moving to North Carolina. "for a new job in September, "so she will probably not see him for a long, long time. "It wouldn't be fair to expect her. "to stay home her only week off from school. "because I have to go on a business trip either. "But I can't help but feel it's unfair to me.
"to run off with an old flame/current friend. "It just seems really off to me. "I've never met this guy. "I don't know his motives. "And he's going to be sleeping with my girlfriend. "and our dog in a tent for a week. "How do I tell her I don't want to go alone together. "without being a controlling douche (beep)? "Thanks, Reddit.". - Thanks, Reddit. - Look, here's the thing though. I get saying it's wrong to be like, "You can't go on this trip. "I'm telling you you can't go.". It's also okay I think for him to say, "Hey-".
- I'm uncomfortable. - "I'm letting you know how I'm feeling.". - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'm feeling really uncomfortable about this. - I think he should. - You slept with this guy, and you guys are about to be in the woods together. for a week. - [Amanda] For a week. - [Ian] Yeah. - That makes me feel a little weird. - It makes me feel blank. - Does it not make you feel a little weird too? - No, I think he should definitely-. - 'Cause if I'm in her position, I'm not going on this trip. It's also we're talking about, you know, and this isn't fair 'cause plenty of people. who are this age are not gonna do stuff, but it's just when you're young and figuring yourself out,
it's just like they've been dating for-. - Like, (beep) it, let's just hang out. - They've been dating for two years, but it's just like, you know, they're so young and stuff, and he's been cheated on before. It's just tricky, and it's scary. I think like we're coming from a place of like relationships. that we have a lot more security in. - Yeah. - But for him-. - It's definitely tricky. I think he should be honest. - I don't think he's wrong at all for feeling uncomfortable.
- No, no, no. No, I don't think he's wrong. - I also wonder if he's not communicating how he's feeling. about this whole situation at all. If he's like, "No, no, it's fine. "It's fine. No, no, it's fine.". And like, so I wonder if like she's going along with it. 'cause she has no idea how uncomfortable it makes-. - Exactly. And I think speaking anecdotally. about like young relationships, when I was younger in relationships, I think what was different was just I was bad.
at communicating, 'cause I was operating out of a place of nervousness. And I think that's often the difference. when we're reading stories about really young people. is they're not communicating. as clearly to each other or being as honest. 'cause they'll doubt themselves as he's doing. And so, yeah, I think that's possible. that they're just not seeing what this looks like. - Here's my thing, these relationships, it's like you wanna trust your partner, here's a perfect way to start trusting your partner. I don't know, you can't gain trust by being like, "Don't do it.".
- Right. No, I do agree with that. - I don't know. - Because I think like if he says "you can't go,". then he's acting on his insecurities. - [Amanda] Yes. - She's never done anything to him-. - [Amanda] Yes. - That's ever made him question her loyalty. - [Amanda] Yes. - So I think-. - So now he's already not trusting her. - Yeah. - So like I think like he-. - He did explain. He's like, "I've been cheated on a bunch before.". So like he's being very upfront of just like,
"I feel insecure in this area.". - But she hasn't cheated on him. - Yeah, it's not an ideal scenario. - No, it's not. - I recognize like yeah, clearly they were, at some point, they were attracted to each other. - And they had sex. - They had sex. - And it only ended because he met his current girlfriend. - Yeah. It's tricky. It's a tricky situation. - Yeah. - Would you tell her not to go? - No, but I would have questions. Like, are you guys gonna be sharing a tent? - What I will say, 'cause I know it is more on the unpopular side, it's not unpopular, this is just,
but the perspective that I know at this stage in life. after having been cheated on and stuff of just like, if your partner's gonna cheat on you, they're gonna cheat on you. - That's what I'm saying. - I do understand what you're saying of like, if you cheat on me, then you were gonna do that, and all right, this is over. - That's what I'm saying. - I get that. But that's also so scary to be like, "Okay, go off and-". - I don't think he should be like, "Go off. "I'm strong and you should do...". I don't think that. I think he should tell her. He's like, "I feel insecure about this.
"I feel worried about this. "I'm worried. "I have questions. "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.". - And you know what? If he's saying like... I also think it's okay, especially when you're young, I've said this, of just if he's like, "I'm super uncomfortable,". and she's like, "Well, this is who I am. "and I want to go on this and I-". - Right. - And it's like, maybe you're very different people. and maybe your perspectives on these types of boundaries. and stuff are different, and it's okay to break up. You're so young. Who cares? Like, if you guys are just not the same types of people.
I understand you've been together for two years, and you don't wanna break up. and you probably care about each other, but I don't know. I've said it a lot of like when you're really young. and if you feel like who you're with, you're not seeing eye to eye, now that's after communicating and talking about it. Talk about it. Make sure you're not on the same page. But if you talk about it clearly. and then you're not on the same page, it's okay to be like, "Maybe this isn't for us.". That's totally fine. Some comments here. "Tell her you don't feel comfortable.
"with her going alone with a guy. "Make it about your feelings, not about her cheating.". - [Ian] Yep. - OP responded, "I tried this at first. "She just brushed it off kind of. "'I've known him most of my life. "'We've had these plans for months. "'Just because you can't come suddenly. "'doesn't mean I should rearrange my plans. "'for my only week off. "'for you when you won't be around anyways. "'I want to go hiking and see the cliffs and coasts, "'not to elope with a good friend.'". - Yep. That's probably exactly what she's thinking. - Someone said, "I don't know what you should do, "but you are not alone in thinking this is shifty and weird.
"I too would feel extremely uncomfortable. "with this situation.". Yeah. I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking. Like you said, they're going out alone. And it's probably about as bad as it can get. I'm trying to think of scenarios worse than this. - And I hear a week and I'm like, ooh. - A week is also-. - A week is a long time. - A week is a long camping trip. - Yeah. - A week in a tent? - My god. - (beep). - Oh, they will be. (everyone laughs). - Yeah. Just to make sure. Just to see.
Do they still have it? I'm just kidding. Update? - Update. (Amanda gasps). - Yes! - Yeah! Yeah! - The dog is single. - Let's go. - "So I was overwhelmed with responses. "Thanks, everyone, for the help. "I decided to talk to her about my feelings. "and see how she dealt with them. "Telling her she needed to make it a group trip. "and not share a tent alone with him. "Here's how it went. "So she comes home, and she's so excited. "to show me the new climbing gear she bought for the trip. "Great. "I tell her we need to talk about the trip and Kyle,
"and she looks a little worried. "I preface the conversation asking more about her. "and Kyle's relationship. "From what I gathered, they're closer than I thought, "yet this actually reassures me. "She was his rock when his dad died, "and he was hers when her best friend committed suicide.". - Jesus. Trauma bond. - "He has a place in her heart as a lifelong friend. "that no one else can fill, "and I have one in hers as a lifelong partner. "that no one else can either. "I have to suck it up and live with that. "She seems to really like Anna, "and Kyle apparently really likes me from their talks. "They're happy the other found a great person.
"and realized they weren't compatible anyways. "and only tried it out out of a loneliness thing. "after both losing important people. "I can live with that. "So I tell her I know it's impractical, "but I don't want her sharing a tent with him. "She says that's fine, completely reasonable for me to ask, "and just wants to make me comfortable. "She says she can try and pack lighter in other aspects. "Cool. "So then I tell her the trip itself makes me uncomfortable. "And why doesn't she invite someone else? "She mentions that's okay. "She can invite her friend Ally.
"who just got back from Colorado. "They can just bring the four person tent again for them. "and the dog if Ally wants to go. "Oh, but Ally's a very hot, very promiscuous lesbian. "and was my girlfriend's first sexual encounter.". - Stop. Stop. (Shayne laughs). - You know what? You know what? This man should be counting his lucky stars. His girlfriend sounds awesome. - Wait, I have my other best friend, Chris Hemsworth. - Yeah. (everyone laughs). - He comes in. Where are we camping? - Oh, how's it going? - It's fine.
I'll invite my other friend, (beep) (beep). (everyone laughs). - Doctor (beep) (beep). - Doctor (beep) (beep). - He's a doctor? - Yeah. - He makes money. - And he's single. - And this is my other friend Cassian from "ACOTAR". - Stop. Do not bring that up right now. I just finished the book. Oh God. (everyone laughs). Don't even bring up his name. - [Ian] Contain yourself. - I can't. - "Hmm. Nope. "Anyone else? "Oh yeah, her friend Taylor maybe, "but she'd be kind of a drag.
"Oh, that's okay. "You used to hook up with Taylor too. "At this point, I realize it boils down to the fact. "that I am jealous and I don't want my girlfriend alone. "with anyone who is attracted to her. "Not because I don't trust her, "but because I have this (beep) up mentality. "that I have to prove myself. "and be there to claim her or something. "If I want this relationship to work, "I have to force myself to get over that. "This trip will help. "So I tell her that, and she insists she doesn't have to go. "if I'm really that insecure. "We can take baby steps and work on it together. "'No', I say, 'I want you to go enjoy your only week off. "'You earned it.'.
"So we decided we are going to drive down there next weekend. "to Kyle's, we're going to all hang out and properly meet, "eat some dinner, drink some beers, "play Cards Against Humanity, "then Kyle and I will go out to the bars. "and get to know each other, "and she and Anna will do whatever they wanna do. "If I don't like him, I tell her and we call it off. "I think this will really help and make me comfortable. "In the end, "my girlfriend's sexual past makes me uncomfortable, "but I'm sure mine from my fraternity days. "scares the shit out of her too. "But just like I only have eyes for her now, "I know it's the same. "She's still not going to sleep in the same tent as him.
"and said she can probably rent some single tents. "from the university outdoors club. "Way cool. "You guys were all divided. "on whether to ask her to stay or let her go, "but I think we found a good compromise. "to make us all feel better and still let her go.". Okay. I mean, hey, look, he made his decision. We don't have another update, so we don't know what happened. - I will say I'm proud that he came to that on his own. He literally had to verbally talk it out. - Yeah. - And then it's kind of what we said in the beginning.
He's gonna let her go. because he has to move on from this stuff. - Okay, I will say, maybe I'm wrong for this, but I think it was a little crazy. that they were planning on sharing a tent before he asked. - I kind of agree. It's like, "We don't have to share a tent.". It's like, "You were gonna share a tent? "Get your own tent.". - I've never had this type of situation. I've never, so for me, this is all hypothetical. I'm very curious what our commenters will think, what they would do in this type of situation. So let us know.
- Let us know. - Move on to our next story. This comes from Relationships. "I, a 29-year-old woman, am traveling overseas. "to meet my online boyfriend, a 38-year-old man, in a week. "He just said he had to cancel.". - Yeah, because he's 65 and his name is Bob. (everyone laughs). - And he lives in Carolina. - Like, Bob, come on, we gotta go. He's like, "I'm meeting my girlfriend.". Sorry.
- "I met someone online through r/PenPals. "about five months ago. "It started off getting to know each other, "and it turns out we had a lot in common, "and we were really compatible. "I think it's safe to say we fell for each other. "It quickly turned intense, "and we shared every single intimate detail. "about each other. "We both were in serious relationships that fell through, "but sometime had gone by for us. "My seven-year relationship ended about 10 months ago, "five months before we met. "And his four-year relationship ended four months. "before we met. "We text all day every day. "and FaceTime for two to three hours every night,
"save for maybe one or two nights a week. "He lives in Ireland. "I live in the US. "I found an incredibly priced flight to visit him. "We were both so excited and maybe a bit rash. "I booked the flight only after two months of knowing him. "He told his family about me, shared photos of his family, "and we planned all that I'm going to do and see with him. "At 5:30 this morning, I received a video message. "and a long text that his ex-girlfriend. "was in a serious car accident. "and that he would have to cancel. "I've begged him not to, and I am trying to be supportive.
"of what he's going through. "So far at most, I've only gotten that he will try, "that he needs to sort this out. "I'm freaking out that in seven days I will be in a country. "where I don't know anyone. "Do I cancel the flight? "I've been telling my friends about going on a trip, "not really saying that I'm meeting someone. "I have no idea what to do now. "I feel sick. "I feel like a fool. "I feel like everything he said to me was a lie. "What should I do?". - Okay. - I mean, I think this is the perfect opportunity. to do a solo trip. I mean, Ireland, plenty of green grass.
- [Amanda] Yeah. - You know? Check out the Guinness factory. - Ah, it's a lovely day for a Guinness. - I've still never been to Ireland. - You must go. - I think like make a solo trip out of it. (beep) that guy. Go on trip. - Yeah, also like if he is telling the truth. about his ex-girlfriend getting in a car accident, that's really scary and sad. - Yeah, it could be real. I mean-. - Okay. - I'm a little suspicious. - [Amanda] You're suspish. - I don't know. You know, they did say they were FaceTiming. - [Ian] Yeah. - So he-.
- He's a real person. - [Shayne] He's a real person. - Yeah. We know that. - He just always has a filter on. - But the problem is when you're, I mean, and I've never been in a long distance relationship, so I'm not experienced in this. A lot of 'em work out and are real. But there's also the element of like, you don't know him in person, is what he's telling you the truth? - Right. - That is the possibility here. - I think she should go on this trip. - [Ian] Absolutely. - But not plan to, not care if she sees him or not. - Yeah. Yeah, there's plenty of stuff to do in Ireland.
Enjoy the-. - But how soon is... That in seven days. So she has seven days until-. - Or she could cancel it. and save for when things calm down a little bit. and not spend all her money. - I think if she can get her money back-. - If she can get her money. - That might be true. - She can get her money back, I would cancel. because go on a solo trip. But like cancel this and then plan a trip. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, - Okay. Comments. "I'll be honest, his ex-girlfriend being. "in a car crash a week before you come over. "shouldn't affect his ability to make time for you.
"even if he was to go out and see her. "From what I've seen of people in online relationships, "there is often one party. "that bails approaching a meetup date. "as things are suddenly to become real. "This is a big possibility, "but I'm not saying it's definitely the case. "I definitely wouldn't cancel unless you can get a refund. "You could use this time to explore the country by yourself. "and turn it into a good empowering experience.". - That's what you said. - Eat, pray, love, bitch. - Yeah. Eat, pray, love in Ireland. - Someone else said, "Everything he said likely was a lie. "since this is a classic catfish line.
"Just because someone can FaceTime you. "doesn't mean every other thing about them isn't bullshit. "I'm sorry this happened. "I'd still take the trip and have an excellent time. "Find things that interest you and go do and see them. "It's an awesome opportunity to see the world, "and I wouldn't pass it up. "just because the opportunity came. "from a shitty situation originally.". If he's lying about all of it. and it's like she's FaceTiming him. and he's just like, "Oh yes, I'm here in Dublin.". And she's like, "My Irish boyfriend is so cool.".
It's like, "Yes, I'm drinking a Guinness again.". Like, that's all he does. I'm eating Lucky Charms. (Amanda laughs). It's like, no, that guy's from Kentucky. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah. - He's like, "Look, I'm really sorry.". - He has a filter of a (beep) leprechaun hat on. Stop. - Yeah, do they even have Lucky Charms in Ireland? - Probably not. - Probably at those, like they have like specialty stores. - He's going off the only things he knows. He's like, "I'm doing,". and he like is watching "Trainspotting". He's like, "Heroin!". (everyone laughs). - Well, now that's Scotland. - Oh, that's Scotland. I haven't seen-.
- Ewan McGregor. - Yeah, he gets it wrong. She's like, "Wait, that's Scotland.". He's just like, "Oh (beep), oh (beep).". - And then it's like, "Bob, come upstairs!". He's like, "Okay, honey.". - He's just saying quotes from "Banshees of Inisherin". - Yeah. (everyone laughs). - Just like, wait. She watches the movie. She's like, "That's all that he's saying.". Okay. Update. - Yay! - The guy was Barry Keoghan. - Oh my god. - I mean, that'd be pretty-. - He's single now. (Ian gasps). Yeah. Him and Sabrina broke up.
- Uh-oh. - She's touring, and she can't with him right now. - Wow. Never could have thought. - So people are like, "So what happened with that boyfriend?". She's like, "He's sort of not a real person.". (everyone laughs). - Jesus. - Sorry. I had to. All right. "After my post, I FaceTimed him to say what I wanted to say. "and end things. "He tried to get me to postpone my trip. "and even tried to give me money to make me less mad at him. "I told him whatever we had was over. "as I could no longer trust him. "He cried, which made me feel weird. "I wished him and his ex the best and ended the call.
"I went on my trip and had a top class time. "The Reddit community really astounds me sometimes. "I received a lot of private messages of suggestions. "of things to do and see. "And the trip to Ireland became a trip of a lifetime.". - Yes. - "In Dublin, I did meet up with a very kind Redditor. "who showed me around the city. "and came with me to a bunch of museums during my stay. "I saw amazing sights, met a bunch of really cool people. "through my travels, and met a few really cute Irish boys.". - There we go. I was gonna say she could be her own boyfriend there. - Exactly. - "I learned a lot about myself. "on my first solo trip abroad.
"I am pretty self-reliant, "and I did a lot of self-reflection. "This relationship was my first serious one. "after my ex and I split up. "I think in my desire for closeness with someone, "I ignored a lot of red flags and downplayed my self-worth. "I'm now focusing on making real connections. "with people I meet in real life. "and have decided to stay away. "from anything long distance indefinitely. "My first night in Belfast, I messaged him. "after I had what was probably too many beers. "Damn you, delicious Irish beers. "And he said he was sorry, but it was what it had to be. "It didn't really seem sincere,
"and it extinguished any romantic notions I had. "Thank you to everyone who commented. "and private messaged me. "It really made me excited for my trip, "and it was the best time.". - Oh. That is the best story ever. - It ended up being the best story so far. - Good for her. I didn't realize she was gonna immediately just cut it off. - Yeah, that was extreme, but hey. - There might've been other details. It might've all added up in her head, and she was like, "I need to end this.". - Good for her. - Hey, good for her. I'm jealous of her. I really want to go 'cause I've heard Guinness in Ireland. is crazy. - It is amazing.
It tastes so good. And the Guinness factory has this bar at the top. that you can see the whole (beep) city of Dublin. - Cool. - [Amanda] It's really cool. - I really want to go. - Do you wanna come with me next time I go? - Yeah. I mean, I won't tell you. - You're gonna be there. - Yeah, I'm gonna be there. - Okay. - Yeah, I'm not gonna tell you though. I'm just gonna be like- - Oh good. - Hey, this Guinness place, pretty cool, right? - And I'm like, "There he is.". - Also to all of our Irish viewers, I'm sorry for my accent. - I'm not sorry. - Yeah. I'm sorry. - I will not apologize.
- [Shayne] Okay. - That wasn't class of you. (Shayne laughs). That's what they say. - I gotta watch "Derry Girls.". - Ah. - Oh. - Yeah. - [Shayne] I need to watch that too. - I need to watch that, then I'm gonna come back with a sick accent. - Just such a good accent. Okay, it is time for our last story, and it comes from Am I The Asshole. "Am I the asshole for leaving a couple's trip. "in the middle of the night and ruining the vibe?". - Oh no. The vibe's been ruined. - Leaving a couple's trip in the middle of the night. - I mean, ruining-. - That sucks.
- Ruining a vibe-. - Sucks. - Sucks. - Immediate asshole. - Worse than death. - You ruin the vibe... - Oh no, dude. - Naur. - Naur. - Oh naur. - You gotta keep the vibe intact. - Yeah. Yeah. - All right. This is a 26-year-old guy. "Last weekend was my birthday. "Me and my girlfriend of two years, Kenzie, who's 26, "had plans to get dinner. "She came to pick me up from work, and her car was packed, "and my best friend/his wife were in the backseat. "To my surprise, she planned a whole weekend away. "to my favorite lake, rented a sick house on the water,
"and invited all our friends. "Her sister/husband, my friend/their SOs, "and a few of Kenzie's friends all arrived Thursday night. "It was awesome, and I was stoked for the weekend. "We met through my best childhood friend, Grace, who's 26. "Grace and Kenzie were college friends, "and I never thought I had a chance. "Kenzie is beautiful. "And while I'm not ugly, "I've always felt like we weren't in the same league. "No idea how I got her, and I still don't. "Thursday night went well. "Friday we swam and hung out at the house most of the day. "We started drinking and playing games at night.
"Kenzie's sister broke out this couple's game. "Basically, you pick one person in the relationship. "that fits the description. "or it has prompts to engage in debates between couples. "Kenzie was pretty drunk by now because she's a lightweight. "and was drinking most of the night. "It was fun until a question. "of what originally attracted you to your SO came up. "Kenzie blurted out, "'He was safe and I knew he wouldn't cheat or leave me.'". - Ooh. - Ooh. Ouchie ouchie. - You know, I think the vibe got ruined right there.
- The vibe has been broken. - Oh. - The vibe has been shattered. "I looked at her with a face and was like, 'Huh?'. "She then says, 'Yeah, you seemed nice enough. "'And after my abusive ex, I wanted a safer option.'. "Things got really awkward, "and her sister quickly read a different card. "I was really embarrassed and flustered, "so I said I had to pee and walked outside. "I called Grace to tell her what happened. "She was working and couldn't come. "And she got upset. "I told her I wanted to leave. "She said I didn't need to take that.
"and she would be there in the morning to get me. "The night died down, "and Kenzie tried talking to me in front of everyone, "but I told her we'd talk about it another time. "I decided to pack my bags and sleep on the couch. "And before anyone woke up, I left. "I texted Kenzie and told her. "that I didn't wanna fight about what happened. "and ruin everyone's trip, "so I was going home for the weekend. "and we could talk whenever she got home. "She blew my phone up all Saturday, "as did a few of my friends. "I decided to go golfing and just turn my phone off. "I just didn't want to talk to anyone.
"When Kenzie showed up at my place Sunday, she was fuming, "saying that me leaving early ruined the whole trip. "It was all anyone could talk about, "and the whole vibe felt off. "because the birthday boy was gone, "that she felt like a piece of shit. "and I didn't give her a chance to explain, "and she hardly even remembers what she said to begin with. "She rented a boat. "I love boating. "And felt like I disrespected her efforts/money. "to put together the trip. "I told her that I didn't feel like arguing, "so I went home to avoid the drama. "Some said that it was an asshole move to just bail.
"and I should have stayed. "because she put a ton of effort into the trip. "Am I the asshole?". - Yes. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I mean, he's kind of on some baby shit. - It really sucks. - All of that sucked. - Like, there's no doubt his feelings were obviously hurt. - Yeah. Rightfully so. - Yeah. And I mean, that sucks to hear. - But you're gonna leave the whole weekend? All your friends took off time to be there for you. - You're punishing a lot of people. for what your girlfriend said. - Grace? Hey girl, don't get involved like that.
(everyone laughs). - I think like, I mean, at the end of the day, I think he felt so embarrassed in front of all his friends. that he couldn't stand to be around 'em. because he's probably thinking in his head, "They're all judging me for this, and I just need to leave.". And so I don't think he realized. that when you just dip out on something like that, your absence will be all people are gonna talk about, and that's gonna make everything way worse.
- [Amanda] So much worse. - No, it's the most dramatic move you can make. - Yeah. - And to say like, "Oh, I just wanted to leave to not cause drama.". I'm like, you wanted to cause some drama. - You caused-. - Maybe. - Maybe. Maybe he wasn't. Maybe he was in his feelings. - Yeah, he was probably in his feelings. He did what he felt he needed to do to feel better. He went golfing. I'm sure that was nice for him. But like when you're thinking like long game.
with your friends, like doing that is kind of a dramatic thing. - It's a cop out. - I don't blame him for wanting to leave, but I think it would've been a much better idea. for him to work it out there. And also if he didn't leave, everyone would've forgot about that. - They would've been like, "Ooh, awkward. "They'll figure it out. "But I don't like him less.". - But now it's like, "Why is he gone? "Oh yeah because he was the safe option, "and that's what caused this whole thing.". - It doesn't help your cause.
Here's what I would've done. - [Ian] Okay. - Your partner says, "Oh yeah, you were the safe option," whatever. I'd be like, "Okay, yeah, for sure.". Everyone goes to bed that night. She wakes up. What's that sound? They go out to the lake. I'm on a jet ski going around. - Oh my god. - I hit a huge ramp. - Yeah. - I land on the ground, skid onto the beach, slide it. I'm wearing a leather jacket, nothing else. - And you're backwards on it. Your hands are on the back. - I'm backwards on a jet ski. I land. They're like, "Holy shit, dude, you could have died.
"That's so dangerous.". I'm like, "You're right. It is dangerous.". - That was my plan all along. - Guess I'm not the safe choice. - Guess I'm not that safe, am I, babe? And she's like, "Oh my god, you're right.". She hops into my arms. We get back on the jet ski, ride off into the sunset. - Wait, just a leather jacket? - Just a leather jacket. Winnie the Poohing it. - Winnie the Poohing. - Oh no. (everyone laughs). - Not very safe. - No, no, no. - [Ian] Not safe. - No, no, no. - Especially out in the woods. All those twigs. - They're all just sitting there. They're going like, "Wow, his (beep) is out.". - [Ian] I was thinking the whole time-.
- Not very safe. - [Amanda] Not very safe. - The whole time I was thinking like, this is the perfect setup for a slasher movie. - Oh yeah. - That's what I was thinking. - Like a lake house. - And on the road heading home, they get murdered, and then something's on its way to the cabin. - Here's what I thought he could have done. or should have done. Other than like get murdered on the way back. But like he should have just woken up. and left for the day, like the morning, done his own thing in the morning, written a note, and being like, "Hey, I just need to do some time.". And then come back after he cooled down.
Not like leave fully. I would be really upset with him as well. - He also turned off his phone. They didn't know-. - He could've been unsafe. He could have-. - It's true. It's true. It's just, it was all, you know... I felt like what I think it comes across-. - It's childish. - It comes across childish. It was really inappropriate what his girlfriend said to him. Absolutely. - Yeah. - But what you do is you pull her aside the next day. and you go, "Hey, that was so disrespectful, so mean.". - Yeah.
- I felt awful. And also, do you still feel that way about me? 'Cause if you do, like that changes my perspective on our relationship. Like, have that serious convo, and then if you're there, you could also talk to your friends that night and be like, "I can't believe she said that to me.". Like, you could like talk to some of your friends too. and get their perspectives, and then they'd all probably be on your side. and be like, yeah. And I don't know. This could have been handled. - And then we send her packing. - Yeah. Get outta here! - Here's the tricky thing, guys, is that she was in a really abusive relationship.
from what he said. And her first initial thought was, "Okay, this guy's safe.". Which I know is such a buzzkill. - There's a nicer way to say it. - There's such a nicer way to say it, but she was wasted. - Yeah. It's-. - No, she (beep) up. She definitely (beep) up. - Definitely (beep) up. It's definitely a, I will say like, 'cause I don't know if he later gets clarification from her, but like drunk words are sober thoughts, like absolutely.
- They really are. - But I also think we don't speak well when we're drunk. - No. - So it could also be like, yes, sorry, I viewed you as safe. I viewed you as like someone. who actually gave a shit about me. There's maybe some better aspects to her point of view. that we're not getting because she was so drunk. - Like, think about like, this is saying the same thing. He was a safe choice, and he makes me feel safe. - Yes. - It's the same thing. But one is incredibly disrespectful.
- [Amanda] So true. - And one is a really sweet thing to say. - Even in her wording, it's like, "I knew he wouldn't cheat on me.". It's like, okay, that is actually a good reason. for wanting to date someone. That's not bad. - But the way she said it is such a bummer. - Oh, absolutely. No, it hurt, reading that part like hurts. But then he just continues to dig a hole. for himself after that. - Yeah, he did. - And feeling awful is okay, but there's just other actions you could take. - I think you were right.
I think he was embarrassed to show his face to his friends. - Yeah. And it is embarrassing. - It's really embarrassing. Yeah. - Comments. Well, the verdict was asshole. - Okay. - Comments. "Feels like you massively overreacted. "That may be the truth for the beginning, "but no one stays for that reason for two years. "and certainly wouldn't splash all that cash. "and spend all that time. "and effort organizing such a lovely weekend for you. "unless the emotions were true and deep. "You are not the rebound after an abusive relationship. "the rebound would've lasted a couple of weeks.
"That's not to say it was hurtful, "but if you care about her, work to make it right.". I think that's very true. Also the question was your first impression. - Exactly. - And first impressions can be (beep) wild and different. - [Amanda] They're crazy. - [Ian] Sure. - Yeah. - She also spent so much, she did this whole weekend for him. and he loves to boat and he couldn't even get on the boat. - I know. It's so sad. - Sad. - Someone said, "You're the asshole. "You'd seriously bail on a birthday weekend. "in front of all your mutual friends. "because two years earlier she felt you were a safe option?
"It seemed to work out. "She went all out for you for your birthday. "If you bailed over something so seemingly ridiculous, "what would you do. "when you face actual tough times together? "You won't discuss it? "You'll just run away?". Absolutely. No, this is a huge red flag. - Love that. - It's like what she said is, it's like I said, I'm like, oh, that would hurt me. But it is minuscule compared to what a lot of couples. go through at some point. And it's like he kind of showed himself there.
And it is a scary thing. Bailing. It's a hard thing to get over, you know? Especially if she went through a bad relationship before. She's seeing this and probably gonna be like, "Oh, well...". - Yeah. - And yeah, and he left her. What I do think about that one comment is true is that. while you left her there alone with all the friends. and they have nothing to talk about but you who is gone. and ghosted and not responding, so you probably damaged your relationship with everyone. - Shit's about to get talked. - I mean, look, I think in relationships,
the response is to communicate always. And he chose to do the polar opposite of it. It's not always that I think you're wrong or you're bad. I just think it's going to make things worse. - It's legitimately like self-sabotage. - Totally. - 'Cause he's clearly extremely insecure. about this whole thing, and his choice is to run away. - I wonder if in his head he thought he was gonna do this. and everyone was gonna feel so bad and be like, "Oh my god, this poor guy.". - Oh my god, this poor guy. - Wow. Ah.
- He's such a hero. In fact, he's not safe. He's so dangerous for leaving. - Can't do that. You just can't. - What a risk taker. - 'Cause when your brain tells you to do things like that, the result is never gonna be what your brain. thinks it's gonna be. - No. - You just need to communicate. Well... - You on a jet ski in just a leather coat, it's something-. - Just a leather jacket. - Burned in my-. - You gotta admit, had he done that, the situation would be better than where it's at now. - And they're like, "I'm the safe-".
- Tell me the situation would not be better. - If he hits a wave and he's sitting on that craft-. - Dangerous. - That craft? - That's dangerous. - It's not safe. - Watercraft. - They wake up the next morning, it's like his balls have exploded. - Yeah, dude, that's not good. - He's safe and he doesn't have balls. - Also, do you drape like one ball? Like, do you drape one ball to one side, one ball to the other side of the thing that you're on. - Oh my god. He's ball-less and safe. I'm happy. - Do you suck them up before you get on it?
I have a lot of questions about naked jet skiing. (Amanda laughs). - Look, I've never jet skied before. - What? Dude, you're such a safe-. - Everyone in this room just lost their mind. - I didn't. I just stared at you. - No, I've never jets skied before. - It's a blast. And also terrifying. - [Shayne] Have you jet skied? - Sure. - Never jet skied. - Do you want to? - Yeah, sure. I'll jet ski. - Get out there, buddy. - I've never had the opportunity. - Jet skis like one of those things. where it's like you're on, you're like, "Oh my god, I'm having so much fun.". And then after like 15 minutes you're like,
"It's the same thing.". - Ow. My whole body hurts. - My family, we never, I've hardly spent time at lakes. - Okay. Fair. - [Amanda] You can jet ski in the ocean. - I know. But like when we went go to the ocean, we were like scuba diving or like snorkeling and stuff. We weren't like a jet ski family. - Yeah. We gotta take you to a lake for your birthday. - Yeah. - You wanna go on your birthday? Buddy, you wanna go on your birthday? - Let's go where they went. - I did jet skiing up at Big Bear. We can go to Big Bear.
- On the mountain? - You wanna go Big Bear? (Shayne laughs). - I'm gonna jet ski on snow. - Yeah, there's a lake. - There's a lake. - There's a lake at Big Bear. - Oh, Big Bear Lake. - [Ian] Yeah. - Whoa, someone hasn't traveled, am I right? - Okay. - 'Kay. - Thank you for watching. Let us know what other themes. and subreddits you'd like to see on this show. Let me know your opinions on some of these stories. 'cause these are some wild ones. And we'll see you next Saturday. Goodbye. - Bye! - Bye.
