Vivek Ramaswamy - EXPOSES Deep State, BlackRock, Big Pharma, Central Bank Digital Currency | SRS #71
today we have a presidential candidate. on the Sean Ryan Show. I would pay close attention to this one. because there are actually real. solutions to a lot of the problems that. we Face here in America today and it is. also very informative on a variety of. topics such as who is the Deep State. BlackRock how do we fix the southern. border and more. I'm going to say this again to any. presidential candidate who needs a voice.
the Americans are tired. of listening. to five minute sound bites that are. scripted from your campaign managers we. want somebody who can get out amongst. the people. hold a long-form conversation without. fear. and be able to think on your feet. without a teleprompter. if that's you and you need a voice. whether you're Republican whether you're. Democrat whether you're somebody in the.
middle. this is your spot. I'm giving it to you. ladies and gentlemen. without further Ado please welcome. Vivek ramaswamy to the Sean Ryan Show. over here. Vivek ramaswamy welcome to the show it's. good to be on with you man I'm uh. honored to have you here presidential. candidate I'm we got a lot to talk about.
yeah I've been looking forward to this. good good so quick intro you're an. author entrepreneur a GOP Presidential. candidate speaking hard truths courage. is contagious The Godfather of the. anti-woke movement author of woke Inc. capital punishment and nation of victims. so. we got we got a variety of topics I want. to cover but everybody always gets a. gift when they come on here yeah thank.
you man so what is it those are uh those. are my gummy bears are you kidding yeah. so you know I'm almost tempted to eat. one right now have at it I'm gonna try. one right now actually you know I. probably should have put some pudding in. there for you to take to DC to that uh. nursing home they're running up there. we'll talk about that it's um. it is a gerontocracy in the country. right now so um so you make these or you. brand them or we brand them good where. do you get them from we get them from. Michigan Michigan all right it's pretty.
close to where I am trying to pop a. couple of these. made in the USA. so the effects of those won't kick in. for another 30 minutes it's okay. I'm just kidding those are legal in all. 50 states. it's just gummy bears but um you're. welcome I'm always a fan of if we get a. gift. you know take it on the spot because. time flies and you later forget so these. are good gummies yeah good. but um you know the pudding to DC it's.
I'm joking about it but you know. I am. extremely concerned about the state of. this country and so many aspects and. you know we we talk about National. Security with China with the southern. border with big Tech with all with with. big Pharma all these different Avenues. but nobody's talking about. who's running our country and what I.
mean by that I'm not I'm not even. talking right or left right now I'm. talking about we have a bunch of. geriatrics. and nobody is driving this car the. motor's on and nobody's behind the wheel. you know we just saw Mitch McConnell. totally space out or have a stroke or. whatever happened I mean then we took. what a day or two later we saw Feinstein. and even read the notes we've got Biden.
who can't figure out how to put a. sentence together. and I know there's more of these people. this is the biggest threat in my opinion. to our national security we have a bunch. of people. up there who. I mean there's nobody upstairs nobody's. driving that car so. Sean this actually gets to a deeper. issue I think the tempting thing to say. on the surface and there's a lot of. truth to it is that we have a. gerontocracy in the United States what. you call the nursing home and I do think.
that there is a need a requirement in. this country for a new generation of. leadership that can actually inspire. reach and bring along Young Americans. the Next Generation for whom we're. creating a country. but that's just the surface. you want to dig deeper this is not an. accident. this is by Design because. what really is happening in Washington. DC is that the people who we elect to. run the government. are not the ones who actually run the.
government. that's the Dirty Little Secret in all of. this is that in some ways it was. designed to be a bunch of hollowed-out. husks serving as puppets for a. managerial class that's really in charge. in this country that's actually why it's. not just the old guys why they want John. fetterman in the seat that he's in. you need puppets who are pliable who are. moldable who are adaptable to the. demands of a permanent State an.
administrative bureaucracy a deep state. that is absolutely the chief policy. maker in this country and the elected. officials are really just people who. enjoy being on cable television at night. they say okay give them that we don't. the people in the Deep State they don't. thrive on attention and ego so we'll. give the Nancy Pelosi's and the Joe. bidens and the Republican equivalents. the ego hit the dopamine hit from being. able to be. a famous person who stands in front of a. camera.
when in fact the real laws of this. country are not passed in Congress that. is designed to look like a beautiful. building I took my three-year-old son. there you know three four weeks ago. maybe three four months ago when I was. there for a Sunday show. it feels like you're going to a museum. because that is not where the laws of. this country are passed they're passed. in the drab administrative buildings. that you would never dare go it's. designed to look and be boring for a. reason. and I think once you see that you.
understand why it is we are where we are. because the question is why on Earth. would we put these people in charge who. couldn't pass a basic cognitive test if. they were asked to perform a function or. an activity of daily living. and the reason is that actually is just. a symptom of the deeper problem which is. that the people we elect to run the. government aren't even the ones who are. actually running it and that was by. Design and that's what I'm going in to. fix but we have to be able to see that. with clear eyes it's not just I'm a. young guy versus these older guys.
it's that I'm an outsider running. against a system that is designed to. keep the democratically accountable. people let alone an outsider out of. their business and that's what's going. on I mean I see that and I've been. calling this out for a long time I mean. a lot of people have been calling this. out for a long time especially when it. comes to the Deep State and the puppets. and and all this stuff but you know. maybe you have a little more insight I. can't figure out who the Deep state is. it is not so this is this is the whole. point it is not one person the model of.
there being one Puppet Master. individually saying that I'm pulling the. strings it's the wrong mental model. right in fact in many cases it's. comprised this is the harder part to see. because then it gets really confusing. when you when you first think of it this. way. there are many good people as. individuals in their individual. capacities as lives as Fathers as. neighbors as coaches who are part of. that machine. it's the nature of the Beast itself is. not comprised of one human being with an.
intention. it is the machine the Leviathan itself. that goes beyond a human individual so. it is a creation that's a beast think. about the FBI right which I've said I. would shut down the FBI and I can go. into the details of how to do it. one of my motivations for being in this. race certainly is I am the single. presidential candidate in the last 30. years who has the deepest understanding. of how to actually shut down the Deep.
State the administrative statement we. can talk about that but the FBI is one. of the institutions that I've said that. I would just shut down. most people who work at the FBI I. genuinely believe it are individually. good people. but they're part of a machine that is. bigger than the sum of its parts that. has a culture unto itself it is still. the J Edgar Hoover building of the FBI. that people walk into every day and. report to for work it is an agency built. in the shadow of a legacy that was. fundamentally corrupt even at its.
Inception or at least through most of. the 1930s and 40s when it got off the. ground. and so that is is really what we have to. see is this isn't a human that we're up. against any individual human it's. individual human beings democratically. elected representatives of the actual. Democratic will of the people up against. a machine a monster that we've created. that actually has to be shut down in. order for us to actually have any chance. of winning and I can go into great. detail on that so.
it's not an individual is it a is it an. entity of individuals that are all. inspiring together or is it is it. totally decompartmentalized it's totally. decompartmentalized I think that that's. actually what makes it so hard to. capture. sort of like there's an analogy and. we'll come back to the Deep State piece. of this but it's deeply related to say. censorship in this country. the way censorship is increasingly being. carried out is initially the first. version of the version that our founding. fathers would have cared about would.
have been the government carrying out. censorship directly saying that you Sean. can't speak to criticize me as a member. of the government. what they started to do is they started. to be a waterfall it wasn't the. president directly saying it but it was. administrative agencies. so it's it's the bureaucrat saying that. you're creating misinformation that and. and genders endangers the public so as. the president I'm not gonna be an. autocratic King but it's just going to. be the technocrats saying that hey. here's some things you can't say then it. goes one step further down the waterfall.
because that's still the government to. say okay well we the technocrats can't. do it but we'll have a meeting with you. if you're a social media company and. we'll tell you that hey you know the guy. who used to work for me now worked in. the private sector that's the place I'm. going to work later on as well so we. already have a friendly peer-like. relationship not that we think we're. doing something corrupt but it's just. the same kind of people who we. understand each other we have the common. good in mind and come on you know the. truth the people need to take vaccines. that people can't be trusted with the.
hunter Biden laptop story it's probably. Russian disinformation on the even. election come on you know what I'm. talking about here people need to take. the vaccines we're going to build public. Trust. I need you to make sure that you're. looking after which users are. criticizing our government policy so say. I'm Andy slavitt in the White House and. say you're a counterpart at Twitter. and we're having a conversation saying. and I'm not making this stuff up this is. just literally what happened. why is uh what was this guy's name uh. you know an individual it's an.
individual critic of the government Alex. Berenson right they literally name him. by name. hey Alex Berenson that guy he's. criticizing government policies on. vaccination that's eroding public trust. he's part of the disinformation Dozen. why haven't you shut it down yet and you. come back and say well you know we think. we have a free speech platform no no you. don't get it come on you understand this. we're in this for the country. why haven't you shut down his account. yet so then that horizontal managerial. class goes and shuts down its account of.
that person because they know that the. government side of it is is still their. regulator so now we've gone from the. president to then delegate it to say. okay the president's not doing. censorship it's just the administrative. State now it's not just the. administrative state but it's the. private sector it's becoming more and. more decentralized. and then what does Twitter do or what. does Google do they don't even have. human beings doing it they train AI to. do it right and so they kick it out to. AI algorithms which are themselves. automatically without human judgments. squashing certain kinds of information. that they've been trained to view as.
dangerous false or misinformation. a dirty little secret is that many of. those algorithms have been so trained. that the AI itself now spots American. flags that are on someone's profile so. if you're somebody who has an American. flag in your social media profile the. algorithms are already trained to play. pay greater scrutiny to what you say are. you serious I'm not joking about this. and it's not a human being that made. that judgment it's the AI that itself. has been trained to say that these are.
the kinds of people who need to actually. be silenced and suppressed it's a dirty. little secret in Silicon Valley and. actually it's many of the same. third-party firms so it's just the. Cascades you go from the president to. the administrative State administrative. state to Executives at Twitter or. YouTube or whatever Executives to then. third parties but the same third-party. firms that are working for the big Tech. Guys in the third party firms themselves. writing algorithms and AI to be able to. decentralize it so why do I bring that.
example up as it relates back to our. example of talking about the FBI. it's a machine that we're up against if. we think it's individual. person-to-person combat we found the bad. guys we walked into the globalist cabal. and here we got them. with smoking cigars in the back room. deciding this is exactly how the rest of. society lives at large that's the wrong. mental model that's how it worked in the. old world that's true because what we. have today going on in the United States. of America is a modern 1775 moment.
right that's where I think we are in the. country. and in the old world the way it worked. as there were a group of people who got. together in the back of Palace Halls. and determined what was right for this. rest of society at large because the Old. World Vision. and it's absolutely a vision that's. rearing its head again in this country. today. is that we the people cannot be trusted. to sort out our differences through free. speech and open debate in a. constitutional republic on how we fight.
climate change or racial Injustice Sean. Vivek we the people as individuals. cannot be trusted. it has to be decided in the back of. Palace Halls by the enlightened Elite. and we fought a revolution to say hell. no to that Vision that yes we the people. in this constitutional republic decide. how we self-govern thank you very much. well now that old monster is rearing its. head again except this time they say. well it's maybe in the back of Palace. Halls like a three-letter government. building in Washington DC but you show.
up there and it isn't quite there. there's no there's no smoking this is a. Smoking Gun there's no smoke in cigars. so then you say maybe it's the corner. office of BlackRock and their Avenue of. their c-suite on Park Avenue well it's. not quite there either it's woven into a. machine of a horizontal managerial class. comprised of people in three letter. agencies in government comprised of the. people who professionally sit on. corporate boards the associate deans of. God knows what at universities the. ambassadors to some second-tier nation.
in Europe that was a donor to a. political party. it's the same managerial class. that makes it very hard to identify. because it pervades multiple. institutions both within and outside of. government. that's what we're up against and I think. that's the moment we live in today. the real divide in the country. is not in my estimation at least between. Republicans and Democrats and that's why. I very rarely talk about Republicans and. Democrats it rather bores me actually.
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our differences through free speech and. open debate and I think that elevates. what this election including this GOP. Primary is all about. do you stand on the side of incremental. reform within those existing. institutions in which case you should. probably go with somebody else. or do you stand for. Revolution. and I stand on the side of Revolution. the American Revolution the ideals of. 1776 that we need to revive that's the. moment we live in in this country.
and I think it's going to take deeper. than just scratching the surface of even. Republicans Or democrats or even. pointing to individuals Joe Biden Nancy. Pelosi Mitch McConnell they're too old. yeah oh that's true. but there's something deeper going on. and I think that's what we have to open. our eyes to. that's what pulled me into this because. I don't think anybody else really sees. it this way that's the best description. of the deep State I've ever heard. so how are we going to break that up I. mean that sounds extremely complicated. it is well here's what I'll say. it is hard.
in that it won't be easy. but it is simple and that it's not. complicated okay and I think we got to. keep that keep that distinction and. clear in our minds. we have three branches of government. it's actually pretty simple it's. enshrined in a readable document cover. to cover I do it from time to time the. US Constitution something that we've. forgotten maybe needs to be taught in. high school I personally think every. high school student should have to pass. the same Civics test that an immigrant. has to pass in order to become a citizen. of this country young people don't know.
anything about what that Flag represents. many of them that's when you don't know. what it represents it's why you bend the. knee to a trans flag instead of the flag. in the United States of America yeah. they're teachers there's actually a sad. story of a teacher recently Who removed. the flag of the Pledge of Allegiance and. put the trans flag up instead as we. pledged as the kids in the classroom. pledge allegiance to it but that's. because when the symbols themselves lose. their meaning we got to restore the. meaning for the symbols to actually mean. something back. and so anyway. I go back to what do we have it's not. abstract theories it's enshrined in our.
Declaration of Independence which is the. best mission statement for a nation. known to mankind. it is enshrined in the U.S Constitution. which is the best operating manual for a. nation known to mankind certainly a free. nation and so I don't think that this is. complicated I think it is hard. the the distinction that I would draw. it's hard and that it's not easy so I'm. not blithe about the challenge but. I have a pretty clear conception of how. this works there's one executive branch. of government.
article two of the Constitution does not. create two executive branches a. president and then a separate. administrative State there's one. executive branch of governments called. the unitary Theory the executive I come. at this as an outsider I think that's. definitely what it's going to take. an Insider who grew up in professional. politics and even learned to say the. things that I'm saying now or in woke. Inc as a second tongue that's good if. your Governor or a you know lawmaker or. state legislator or Senator when you. talk about the next president you need. an outsider who has a first personal. native understanding of how to get this.
done. but it's got to be an outsider who also. deeply understands the Constitution. somebody who understands that. if someone works for you and you cannot. fire them. that means they don't work for you. it means you work for them because. you're responsible for what they do. without having any Authority. to actually change it. I refuse to be a hollow at husk as a CEO. of a company I refuse to be a hollowed. out husk as the chief executive of the.
executive branch of the government read. article two of the Constitution that's. not how it works. now you also need a president who has an. understanding of the laws passed under. that Constitution. so uh. we have some time I'll get deep with you. here we're tackling the Deep State let's. get deep on how we dismantle it let's do. it. very poorly understood laws by former. presidents even Trump I think this is. where he fell short is that the advisors. who came from that same managerial class. I mean being the National Security. establishment I love Trump's instincts.
too bad he got John Bolton in charge of. as your Chief and most important foreign. policy person is your National Security. advisor he's an old school neocon so. Trump. has his hands hamstrung a little bit if. the guy you're working through actually. has a completely different Vision same. thing for the administrative State he. wanted to dismantle the Deep state but. they told him things like oh you can't. do it because there are civil service. protections. well here's my suggestion. read the law okay and I have. the Civil Service protections.
only apply to individual firings because. the thing they're supposed to protect. against and we could debate whether we. like this or not but this is the law. that we don't want a president who's. elected by the public to politicize the. firing of any particular expert to say. let's say you're you know some underling. in the state department and you said. something I don't like about you know. abortion but you're a competent person. and I'm the president I say well fire. him that's what the laws are designed to.
protect against okay we could debate. whether that's a good thing or not but. that's just how the Civil Service rules. work. on their own terms those laws do not. apply to mass layoffs so yeah instead. come in and want to say that I want to. lay off 75 of the people or shut down. this agency the Civil Service. protections don't apply to that on the. terms of their own law so you have Trump. I mean the people around him basically. did not want him to do the things he. wanted to do so they tell them to the. Civil Service protections stop you from. those firings. how about actually going to the root.
original purpose and then read the law. and actually say all right well how. about just a mass firing. and mass layoffs are absolutely what I. am bringing to the Washington DC federal. bureaucracy. take some other laws you know the 1977. presidential reorganization Act. this is this is a law that basically. says that. there's limited circumstances or do they. tell Trump you want to shut down an. agency you have to ask Congress. generally that's true but there are laws. on the books that say under certain. limited circumstances if it's going to. stimulate the economy or if it.
eliminates redundant agencies. then you absolutely as the president. already have the authority as the chief. executive just like a board of directors. gives it to a CEO Congress has already. given the CEO The Authority in this case. the U.S president to shut down those. divisions what agencies in particular. would you shut down other than the FBI. Department of Education CDC IRS ATF. nuclear Regulatory Commission. I've talked about the FBI extensively. and that's just the start I think that.
we're going to continue to go down that. list would you replace them with other. agencies. in certain cases yes in certain cases no. so if you want to talk about the FBI. maybe we can since let's talk about I've. shared interest there it's it's topical. right now when we're having this. conversation. so in the FBI's case I would shut it. down I wouldn't build something else to. take its place but I would make good. judgments on how we still carry out the. functions that we need to have carried. out without a corrupt bureaucracy in the. middle so at the local level let's just.
start there you have local police and. local prosecutors you don't have a. separate investigative bureaucracy. sitting in between. well the federal level you've got U.S. prosecutors and you've got the U.S. Marshals. we have this separate bureaucracy built. in the legacy of J Edgar Hoover sitting. in between that's part of the problem. excuse me. so I want to go deep on this. there's 35 000 some odd employees at the. FBI. fifteen thousand of them are doing good. honest work they're generally the.
investigators on the front line the. agents on the front line. well we need them but actually one of. the things that's happened in the FBI is. they've lost all specialization right so. this is part of a cultural shift it's. what happens in a bureaucracy even in a. company same thing happens in the. federal government is they all just end. up being a bunch of generalists but. they're worse than it busting up child. sex trafficking Rings or worse at. investigating drug crimes see the influx. of fentanyl by mules and and coyotes. coming through the tunnels cartel. Finance tunnels underneath our Southern.
border even Financial crimes don't have. the sophistication to go after true. white-collar theft today and see a bunch. of generalists who are ineffective at. their jobs because the FBI is this. generalist Institution. when what I would say is those 15 000. after we shut down the FBI still have a. job in the federal government we're just. going to move them to either the U.S. Marshals or the DEA the drug enforcement. agency or the financial crimes. enforcement Network well they will by. the way have greater specialization at. agencies those three agencies have not. been politically corrupted in the same.
way the FBI has and carry out their work. that's fifteen thousand of the 35 000. the other 20 000 they're really the true. bureaucrats and that's the source of the. politicization that's the source of the. rot it's almost not even their fault. because if you have it's just the law of. human nature this happens at the U.S. federal reserve too which I can talk. about in a second. when you have a bunch of people. who are showing up to work who should. have never had that job in the first. place. the biggest problem isn't just their. head count costs that's a problem too.
but it's the fact that when they're. supposed to show up to when they show up. to work when they're not supposed to. they find things to do right that's. actually more damaging so those 20 000. people are going to be sent home and. they have to find honest work in the. private sector. truth is we have more private sector. jobs today than we do have people in. this country so this could be good for. our economy good for lifeblood it might. even be good for them to get back into. the real world understand what honest to. work looks like yeah but when I say shut. down the FBI. and since I've been saying this I'm.
grateful that other candidates have now. taken this on and that's great but. we live in a moment where it takes a. president who isn't a parrot for. somebody else's slogans be it another. candidate or be it a political. consultant class or a mega donor. we live in complicated times. and I think it requires an outsider but. a president who has a first personal. understanding of how to get the job done. and. that's what called me into this I didn't.
think I was going to be running for. president right now a year ago if you. told me this is what I'd be doing right. now I'd say you were nuts and that. sounds like a sharp poke in the eye. but the reality is. I don't think we have 20 years to work. with as a country. I don't think we're done yet. I think we still have an opportunity to. say we are on our way up. okay maybe we have some bumps along the. way. but that we're still just a little young. going through our own version of. adolescence our teenage year is figuring.
out who we're going to be that's the. optimistic way I'd like to see it and I. think it can be so. but if we wait another 20 years I think. that's the ball game and I think right. now we live in a moment where. it's going to take a unique combination. of traits to see this through and get. that job done and a standard. professional politician is just not. going to be able to do it they're wired. in the way they are for a reason. it's going to take someone coming in. from the outside how are you going to. find the right people to surround. yourself with when you get in there I.
mean yeah we know Trump had a hell of a. time with that yeah so look I mean first. of all I want to say I think Trump was. an excellent president I think that the. fact that there's a bunch of people that. would rather see me bashing. the guy who I think was probably the. best president of the 21st century. definitely the best president of the. 21st century and whose election over. Hillary Clinton in 2016 was probably the. single most important political event of. my lifetime no I'm not going to sit here. and Bash him I respect him and his. legacy and I think we got to carry that. forward but I will also learn from the. areas where he fell short that's what.
I'll say is maybe if I was in his. position and back in 2016 I would have. done the same thing but this isn't about. me or him it's about the country right. and so building on that Foundation one. of the things we have to learn is that. it's not a one-man job in the end you're. gonna need people who you trust around. you and some of this is just a question. of time right you I mean we're worried. about winning an election you're just. not gonna have the time to get started. on the job in the first years where most. of the work actually gets done and I.
think this is where one of the big. disappointments in the momentum Stoppers. of trump I mean the top one was the fact. that his presidency was beset by a false. basis impeachment. Witch Hunt that they went on on a. made-up Russia collusion hoax but the. second thing that was was a little bit. of an own goal was the air we took out. of the balloon when President Trump. failed to secure the number one. legislative Victory he promised on the. campaign Trail which was to repeal and. replace Obamacare because Congress.
refused to do it a republican-controlled. Congress and Senate and so that took a. little bit of the wind out of the sales. and I think he just didn't have the. right people around him driving that. through I think it was a failure of. execution of the people who reported. into him so that's a long way of saying. we're already starting you're already. you're already identifying people. absolutely so I spent the first three. months there's a big team that worked on. this for us identifying first of all the. federal judges because those when we get. into office we can't waste time on that. we got to get those judicial.
appointments right all the way through. especially coming off the heels of abide. Administration that rolled back some of. the good that happened much of the good. that happened on the appeals courts and. the district courts under Trump so we're. already ready to go with that I've. published my list of Appellate Court. nominees of prospective Supreme Court. nominees and so we're already rolling. that train has already left the station. that's out there now we're moving to. other positions in the federal. government. and one of The Temptations Sean is to. focus on the cabinet level positions.
because that's what will. get headlines in during a campaign and. let's be honest we have a campaign yet. to win right. but if we're really also focusing on the. actual substance. the more important positions are. positions like the office of personnel. management OPM the HR department of the. Executive Branch the Office of. Management and budget OMB it's like the. CFO of the Executive Branch the CFO the. government these are positions that. don't grab headlines but if you're.
talking about ultimately dismantling the. administrative State and that's what I'm. going in to do. the plumbing is what matters. and the people in those positions Sean. in those positions too for me are going. to have to be Bulldogs that are. unidirectionally implementing my vision. for reducing the federal employee head. count by over 75 percent rescinding most. federal regulations which I believe are. unconstitutional because they didn't go. through Congress.
and I think this is also one of the. areas where I can learn from the Trump. experience where he put people in those. roles who ended up being. ambassadors for the Deep State back to. the president explaining all the reasons. why you couldn't do things. in the OPM and OMB roles no. I want Bulldogs people who are my. ambassador to the administrative State. and will see this through and stop at. nothing and break walls and break glass. until they get the thing done. and so a lot of those people I think. will be in those kind of positions will.
be. fiercely anti-government even. libertarian oriented in their in their. orientation not really coming from the. traditional Republican party ranks and. then when it comes to the cabinet. positions sure we're going to need. people in you know the Secretary of. State who was a realist when it comes to. foreign policy rather than a neocon and. people whose policy objectives align. with mine. but where I'm focused first is on the. plumbing positions. the other thing we're doing right now. actually this is the first time I'm.
sharing this in public but might as well. I mean I think the public deserves to. know is. we have a sort of a closet exercise in. our own campaign Where We Are. setting up a plan to cut 75 of those. federal employees I want 50 of them cut. by the end of year one that is a. Monumental undertaking to get this right. and so we're not going to be able to. interview each of those people let alone. make the good judgments about who's on. which side.
so I'm working with a team of people. from the business World from the world. of from the investment World from The. Venture Capital World from the world of. Psychology from the world of. organizational behavior and also with. experience in government. to put together large-scale screening. tests. so on multiple attributes not just. competence but even more importantly. psychological attributes work ethic. attributes perspectives on the. Constitution Restraint of someone who. believes whether or not they should be. more restrained or whether or not they.
should be more expansive in the roles. that they carry out in the federal. government. by about February of next year I think. we will be in a position to put out our. screening filter and then by March 1. next year we're already gonna have that. team in motion ready to hit the ground. running when I take over by the. following January January 20th 2025. that's not the start line we have a. running start to that start line and I. think that that's what it's going to. take to be able to see this through and.
get that job done well that was actually. my next question is if you have an. estimation on how long it would take to. complete this sounds like the majority. of it would be done in year one yes and. I think I think the reality is I mean. history teaches this to us by year two. you're bogged down in your legislative. priorities and so this is one of the. things that I'm doing a little bit. differently than. pretty much every president in modern. history maybe Reagan you could actually. point to as the last president who who. got this right.
presidents make this mistake all the. time and it's an understandable one and. the way they campaign you know if. they're going to make that mistake based. on you seeing how they campaign do they. campaign on legislative promises. a Democrat Republican this isn't a. partisan thing say here are the laws I. will pass here's the only little. kerfuffle in that. you're working with a 500 plus person. body. on Capitol Hill to see that through. that is designed to be cumbersome that. is designed to be slow and.
I'm not complaining about that our. founding fathers wanted it to work that. way but that is designed to be a. laborious process. I'm looking at it a little bit. differently I do have a legislative. agenda and that's what I want to get to. by the end of year one. but year one for me the focus. is actually getting the things done that. I don't need either the permission or. forgiveness of Congress for. running the executive branch of the. government that is where the Deep State.
resides that is where we can actually. the commander-in-chief's powers rest. why are U.S military troops stationed. and God knows where 1.3 million serving. today 700 000 more plus more than that. in reserve. stationed in places where many of them. shouldn't be all of whom would be proud. to actually solve the problem of. American deaths on American soil. resulting from. fentanyl crossing the southern border. for example. so I've said that as commander-in-chief. in month one I will station the U.S.
military along our Southern border. building the wall was not enough there. are cartel financed tunnels as we talked. about underneath that wall. and so one of the things that I've said. is we'd station the US military there. I've said that I would end the. Department of Education for example or. these other departments that the U.S. president can do on existing legal. Authority that we talked about earlier I. would end a lot of the executive orders. that we have inherited as a burden as an. albatross from prior presidents actually.
pushed Trump's people on this. why didn't you rescind Executive Order. 11246 that was the one that Lyndon. Johnson signed that requires any. government contractor. that's over 20 of the US Workforce. working for a government contractor. anybody who does business with the. federal government. to adopt race-based quota systems in. their hiring. all it takes the president with a pen. draw a line through that old executive. order that isn't ruling by Fiat that is.
fixing the rule by Fiat that came in the. past many of these from Biden from Obama. some from Bill Clinton as well take a. line cross it straight through Jimmy. Carter had some awful ones Lyndon. Johnson had the worst ones of all. that's something that I'm focused on. early on in the in the presidency. replacement for Jay Powell the federal. of the the chairman of the Federal. Reserve I get that appointment power in. January 2026 have that lined up with. plans of Reform of the U.S federal. reserve.
so that's what will give us the momentum. boost so you see the way I'm thinking. about this is the pin prick in the. balloon in Trump's case was he went all. in for repeal and replace Obamacare. Congress did not want to come along I. didn't think he had the right Bulldogs. in there to drive that process through. but then that deflated the momentum. behind what else he could get done. the way I'm looking at it is in Reverse. we're going to win this election in a. landslide it has to be a landslide this. cannot be for so many reasons this. cannot be a 50.1 electoral margin this. has to be a Ronald Reagan 1980 style.
moral mandate. and then use that momentum to fix the. executive branch of the government fix. your own house right in the starting. with the White House. and then by year two we use that. momentum to be in a strong position to. say okay here's the legislative agenda. and we'll work with Congress over that. cycle and that works in our favor. because the Congressional elections will. be coming up the next year and most of. what I'm going to do are going to be. policies that will work in favor of. those congressmen and senators getting. reelected because I think we're doing. the right thing for this country.
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better. and that's the way I look at leading as. president well it sounds like you got a. great plan one one more thing I want to. talk about with breaking this stuff up. and that. we hear a lot of talk about term limits. yeah you get the career politicians you. get the geriatrics in there they don't. know what's going on everybody says term. limits here's my fear and I'm not as. spun up on all of this as you are. obviously so forgive my ignorance I know. you're also a in an avid 2A yeah correct.
and so if we amend. this and we make it term limits doesn't. that open it up to amend everything. including 2A so depends about this it's. a great question so it depends on the. method of amendment so there's two ways. to amend the Constitution one is What's. called the legislative method where. Congress or the president can propose it. through Congress that it comes from the. federal government they get you know a. super majority in Congress then it goes.
to the states for ratification that'd be. my preferred method it was Reagan's. preferred method. the other method is still it's. constitutional it exists and I recognize. the authority to do it and and I. celebrate the people across the country. who have enough Civic Spirit to try to. create one of these is an article 5. convention a Convention of the states. where it comes bottom up from the states. where they propose that and in that. convention you're right you know you you. you you've got to be be prepared of what. comes out.
my view is constitutional amendments are. slow and cumbersome so if there's three. categories for where I'm driving my. change I just care about effectiveness. okay I'm going in there for eight years. I think about what do I want to do and. what do I want to say. when I leave office in January 2033. my older son won't even be in high. school by then. we're doing this for their generation I. want them to live in the country that is. not the same country a better one than.
even the one I grew up in which is the. greatest country still known to mankind. and human history if you ask me. a few things I want to say is we we have. three branches of government again not. four administrative State's gone we're. not dependent on our enemy for our. modern way of life that's coming as. China. our economy is again growing once again. at the fastest Pace in the developed. world as it has for most of our history. it can be again. and that we are once again proud most of. us certainly proud to be citizens of.
this nation that much I know I can. deliver. and in order for me to think about the. most effective path to get there. between now and January 2033. that's my real destination not November. 2024. I have to go in order of effectiveness. first what can the president do without. lawmaking using existing legal Authority. next how do you go through Congress to. pass the laws under the Constitution as. it exists. and then third look at what amendments. we might want to make to the.
Constitution itself and the legislative. method of doing it doesn't open up the. can of worms that you talked about but. you're right term limits would require. which I do favor. term limits would require an amendment. to the Constitution I favor. hard citizenship requirements like. passing that same Civics test that an. immigrant has to pass or else. at the very least serving this country. in some capacity for six months that. would require a constitutional amendment. so we're not going first with that you. got to go in the right order that comes.
later in the presidency. now I do want to say one thing about. terminal limits because it does get. talked about a lot I'm in favor of it I. think other candidates are too and it's. important. but it goes back to the first point I. made to you. the real. fact is that the people we might even be. term limiting or today aren't even the. ones who are relevant right they're just. puppets. and they enjoy being puppets right. showing up on cable television at night. and then going home and getting get a.
you know add a boy in your back from. your wife and your kids or your people. in your community whatever that's that's. a fine job for the people who select. that but they're just front men right. for the real agenda. and so what I actually favor and can. implement. without amending the Constitution. without even requiring a law from. Congress. is term limits for the bureaucrats. right the people who are running the. show that's where we need Fresh. lifeblood So what I've said is I as the.
leader of the executive branch if I'm. elected if I is the leader of the. executive branch. cannot work for the taxpayer and collect. a paycheck. for more than eight years. which I think is a good thing. then neither should any of those Federal. bureaucrats reporting into me either. forget the Civil Service protections. it's an eight-year Norm for most. positions are there gonna be some. exceptions fine but the norm our HR.
policy the norm. is that it's eight years no more than. eight consecutive years working in that. position that is how you suck the. lifeblood. out of the deep state send people back. to find honest work in the private. sector how you create a culture of. service for people actually serve in. that role too now. I think we only need 25 of the employees. that we actually have there so that's a. lot smaller number of roles to fill. anyway people say how will you fill all. those roles well here's the answer we're. only going to have a quarter of those. rolls left in the first place. but that is how you drive generational.
change so what's the legal Authority. well there's a little used U.S statute. five USC 3302. it gives the U.S president. sole Authority. to set the regulations governing the. office of personnel management the HR. department. so again in Corporate America today. it's funny how these parallels exist in. the private sector you might think if. you're an employee working at a giant. corporation that the CEO has no say and. it's the head of HR that actually.
determines what your hiring policies are. but the way it's really supposed to work. and the way it works on the books is. that the head of HR still reports into. the CEO. well our executive branch actually works. the same way if you read the law right. OPM still reports into the U.S president. yes OPM has its own regulations the. office of personnel management but five. USC 3302 gives the U.S president. sole Authority. to set those regulations. it's a shot I think that's why it takes.
a unique combination takes an outsider. somebody who has been a CEO who has not. grown up within the government. but also someone who. has a constitutional scholar level. understanding of the U.S Constitution. and the laws of this country and those. two things don't usually go together. right one one type tends to be academic. they don't get things done the other. time type you know and I put in a. complimentary fashion a guy like Trump.
in this category versus professional. politicians break glass get things done. but may not have a native understanding. of the laws in the Constitution first. personally have to rely on advisors we. have a moment where you cannot depend on. relying on the advisor class because the. advisor class will tell me no for the. same reasons they told Trump no. here's one difference though and I give. Trump a lot of credit for this. is that the current Supreme Court which. he constituted and gave us. agrees six to three with my. understanding of everything I've just. told you. so will we get sued you're done right we.
will. but. that actually takes it to the Supreme. Court. which then codifies everything that. we're talking about here. into judicial precedent okay which means. the next president who comes after me. won't have his hands tied in the same. ways that my hands were tied and even. more so the ways that Trump's hands were. tied that is how we drive change on the. time scale of History so you have a you. have a real plan here that was the.
it's the best plan I've heard actually I. don't everybody else just says they're. going to do it yeah but I've not heard a. real plan by anybody so well that's why. I'm grateful for forums like this rather. than a three-minute hit on cable. television because in that or 30 second. ad on television that you pay for and. plant across the country because in that. forum. you know. it's a two-dimensional TV screen and. that's all we have. and the truth is. there's only two things that allow an.
outsider like me to make this possible. right now if this was a traditional. media landscape. where everybody in the country voted in. the primary on the same day forget about. it I wouldn't even bother there's no. chance and Outsider like me can come in. it's about who has the most Super PAC. money that can put up ads in 30 second. and 60 second formats on television to. raise Name ID and then by the way. networks reward the people who buy ads. from them and that's exactly how the. ball game would be played. but the two things that are different is.
Iowa New Hampshire these states go first. I've been there more than any other. candidate. people in those states are able to meet. you get a three-dimensional feel of. who's real and who's not by being in the. room but the other big change is frankly. people like you doing what you are right. this is. Direct. to vote or direct to viewer. conversations of a form that you don't. have in traditional linear cable media. and those two things are what make it.
possible and I believe likely. that will succeed in not only winning. the nomination in the presidency but. hopefully. hopefully. succeed in leading the national Revival. of those 1776 principles. that we have long forgotten well I'd. like to commend you for doing it I was. going to wait till the end to do that. but you know I've I've had another. candidate on he was supposed to fly up. here turned into a 15-minute Zoom call. which was just a bunch of sound bites. and you know I and I it's gonna take.
somebody like you that's going to get. out amongst the people and not do the. traditional five-minute news hit you. know scripted scripted answers and and. it it shows you're not too good to be. amongst the people and and I really. appreciate that and I think a lot of. people really appreciate that thank you. one thing I'm trying to do in this. process is I'll just lift the curtain. how the sausage is made you don't know. funny reason Kamala Harris was in a. similar situation too is. a lot of times when candidates don't.
want to come in person and do a sit down. and it's the same political Consultants. right they're like they're like the. equivalent of the permanent deep state. but in the campaign world right I mean. it's the candidates come and go but. those guys are here for good the little. trick they play is. I'm not making this up is when someone's. doing an interview virtually they're. doing it usually facing a camera where. there's a teleprompter in front of them. and they have people who are putting up.
the themes to hit as their talkers as. they call them talkers talking points to. be able to actually flash them such that. it looks like they're looking at you on. the screen they're literally looking at. words that remind them and so it's just. it's just a tactic again in modern. politics where. everything you can to hide from the. truth that's the way the game is. designed to be played and. my view is that if you're not willing to. sit across the table from.
a podcaster NBC News a 22 year old and a. college campus you're probably unfit to. sit across the table from Xi Jinping and. so I'm trying to practice what we preach. but yeah I'm grateful for folks like you. as well because the traditional media. landscape has not been this country any. great service in the last 10 years if. you can't trust yourself to think on. your feed in a long-form conversation. you got no business being in the White. House yeah you know and that's that's. just the way it is but let's um you know. I haven't heard much about your.
background and so I'd like to cover that. on this channel and um so let's just. start with your childhood where'd you. grow up born and raised in Cincinnati. Ohio. first generation American yes my parents. are both immigrants they came to this. country with almost no money a little. over 40 years ago. and they came with a work ethic and they. came with a desire to get an education. and uh my mom was a geriatric. psychiatrist she took care of patients. with Alzheimer's disease in nursing. homes in Southwest Ohio. my dad worked at the GE plant in.
Evendale Ohio under Jack Welch's tenure. at GE which was interesting as a time to. go through cycles of job security when. we were growing up but uh but anyway. they they. lived their version of the American. dream and they most importantly gave my. brother and I the foundation for us to. live ours and so each of us went on to. found. successful companies that helped a lot. of people in this country and now I've. got two sons of my own and uh you know I. hope we can create that same American.
Dream for them. me too what did you like to do when you. were growing up or your hobbies I. actually ended up I like sports a lot. but I ended up focusing on being a. tennis player because. so anyway those layoffs at GE they came. hard when I was in Middle School so it. was about fifth sixth seventh eighth. grade. my dad ended up keeping his job by being. able to go to night school in law school. because GE needed patent attorneys. people who are lawyers but also had some. training as engineers and so he went to.
night school for those four years and we. were doing all the sports my brother and. I a soccer basketball you know tennis. Etc but my mom needed one place where we. could both be in the same place at the. same time when she had both kids on her. hands and so that got us both into. tennis because that was the place where. he wouldn't have two different soccer. games in two different locations and. that actually worked out really well. where you know I ended up focusing on. something that I became pretty. passionate about worked out even better. for my brother because he's younger than.
me and so he got better than I did by. practicing against his older brother and. playing with older kids along the way. because my mom needed us in one spot and. so he ended up being one of the top. players in the country I was never quite. that good but I got competitive enough. and still keep it up to this day I was a. Pianist as well we had a piano teacher. who came home she's probably one of the. bigger influences on. even some of my thinking really as it. was early but she planted some seeds as. it related to the probably what became.
my political perspectives today actually. what what was one of those suits well. she gave me actually uh so so it was. actually a funny story that led up to it. so she was she was pretty strict right. like we would feed her her coming if we. had not practiced that week which was. many weeks it turned out and so the one. thing that would somehow we discovered. would throw her off her tilt is uh it. said this is you know Bill Clinton's. impeachment and all of that you know.
back in the 1990s and so this was like. all the talk everywhere so if we brought. something up relating to Bill Clinton or. little and Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton. we know that like of the 30 minutes we. would buy ourselves some time where her. anger at us for not practicing could be. channeled a little bit towards an even. bigger bad guy and so and so we would we. would be like on a bad week we would. know that oh did you watch see what Ken. Starr did the other day or you know and. and so that would that would send her at. least on track I would listen to she had.
interesting thoughts on this stuff but. most importantly it was to avoid the. wrath of our not having actually. practiced which we feared deeply. and you know it turned out though we. thought we were tricking her but. she's like I know it should later she. came back one day with the book and she. says I know what you're doing I know. exactly what you're doing you didn't. practice this week and I brought. something for you. and so she brought a book it was Ronald. Reagan's biography and she's like here's. what you get read it. and now we're going to talk about the.
piano but you want to talk about. politics read this. and that actually had an impact on me it. you know I mean you're reading it as a. young person in in middle school or. maybe early High School. in there and it you know later you know. in my college days I certainly was. libertarian before I became conservative. I still have pretty deeply rooted. libertarian instincts but I'm definitely. a conservative today but. yeah I think a lot about her actually. what what. um.
I mean your parents from what I've read. they lean left my my mom doesn't she's. uh she leans in a pretty similar. direction to me my dad has he wouldn't. call himself left but he has definitely. uh the other side of me on many issues. which is great because we have open. debates about it at the dinner table. even when he was going to law school. actually so some of those nights so my. mom would take us for the tennis but. sometimes we'd have to divide they'd. have to divide and conquer a little bit. and so my mom would have my brother I. actually would often go with my dad to. those law classes at night and I would.
sit in the back of the class. and then when we'd be coming back you. know he'd be railing against Clarence. Thomas or Anton Scalia which actually. part of would probably inform My Views. too so I would you know take the other. side of my dad and we would you know. have debates and it's probably good for. me in sixth or seventh grade most of the. other kids probably didn't know who. Clarence Thomas or ant and Scalia was. and. I was sitting in the back of law class. with my dad so we would have 45 minutes. on a drive back to to talk about it and.
so uh anyway he yes the fact of he and I. having different views goes back I think. a long time and in some ways I might. have even gotten my different views from. actually wanting to be contrarian. against my dad growing up interesting. it's interesting yeah what was it that. turned you from libertarian into. conservative I realized that I cared. more. about issue I I what should I say I. cared about more issues.
than the narrow set of issues that. Libertarians care about right so there's. more to me than the first the first step. for me was there's more to me than the. libertarian in me. I was I was a Libertarian rapper in. college this is I was I enjoyed. exercising ideas through we would go to. like freestyles and open minds you were. a rapper I was a I was a mediocre rapper. a Libertarian with a Libertarian. orientation. but I realized that okay libertarianism. is all about the relationship between.
the state and the individual okay and. that's really important get the state. the heck out of my hair that's the way I. feel about it I continue to feel about. it to this day. but there are still the deeper questions. of. what do we do in that now free world. that world that's free of State. intervention what then. and I think those are really important. questions that relate to discovering. who am I. who is my family what does that mean to.
me what is true. what is God. am I part of something bigger than. myself how does that relate to the. culture that I create both as a father. as an individual and yes even as a. citizen. and I think those are important. questions for a well-flourishing society. that go beyond just the relationship. between the government and the. individual. and I care deeply about those questions. and so that's what led me to say okay. I'm more than just a Libertarian and. then I started to shed the label a.
little bit even more when frankly I. became disappointed. disillusioned a little bit when I see. other self-professed Libertarians not. really even standing up. for the hard positions that they're. committed to with their views I could. give you one example that's. relevant to some of the books I've. written so in woke Inc the first book. that I wrote. one of the. ideas that I threw out there was to say. that if we're going to have protected.
classes on the basis of race and gender. and sexual orientation and religion and. national origin to say you can't fire. people for these criteria. well then I think we should if we're. going to have them at all. we should add political expression to. that list. to say that if you can't fire somebody. for being black or gay or Muslim or. white or Jewish or Christian or Hindu or. whatever. that you should not be able to fire them. for being an outspoken conservative or. outspoken liberal for that matter either.
we should apply that standard. even-handedly and the critiques I got. were from Libertarians who say that. self-professed Libertarians at least. that's intervention in the free market. the market should sort this out that if. these businesses are firing these great. conservatives over here then that's a. business opportunity for these other. businesses over there to hire them. instead and that we should not want to. burden businesses with regulations. deciding who they can and cannot fire or. associate themselves with. at my core I'm actually sympathetic to. that but the thing that's disappointing.
to me. is that you can't have it both ways. actually. and in fact. it was the intervention in the market by. creating the protected classes race. gender sexual orientation religion and. so on. messes. are actually what created. the Viewpoint discrimination we see in. the private sector people say what do. you mean. well here's how it worked those civil. rights laws were passed and then the.
equal employment opportunity commission. which is none other than the alphabet. soup of the deep state. interprets those statutes to then say. and they tell companies and I've been a. CEO right any CEO who goes through HR. training understands this. that you cannot create now you cannot. only not only not discriminate based on. those attributes which was what the. civil rights law is saying but now per. the Deep State's interpretation of it an. application of those regulations now to. companies it also means that you cannot. create what they call a hostile work.
environment. for those protected classes well how. does one create a hostile work. environment let's talk about it real. case of a grandmother who wore a red. sweater every Friday to work to. celebrate Veterans and to celebrate our. troops and she had a little group that. got together on Fridays for lunch at the. office to do it. a member of a protected class complained. to HR claiming that that was a. microaggression that that created a.
hostile work environment so they talked. to the lady and they say Hey you know we. don't want you doing this in the. workplace anymore. she didn't like it but she's okay fine. she still wears a red sweater to work on. Fridays and then she hangs it on the. back of her chair at work. well that's still apparently a Vestige. of the microaggression at which point. they had her remove that. the equal employment opportunity. commission stands on the side of this. being an actual hostile work environment. case okay. so now you're a company that could be.
liable under the civil rights laws. for creating a hostile work environment. which creates the very conditions. for Viewpoint discrimination. in the private sector. so now where are my libertarian friends. on this they should be saying we want to. repeal the protected classes get rid of. the protected classes let the free. market work if people want to fire these. silly these silly businesses want to. fire good conservatives or good black.
people or good white people or good. Hindu people or good women. that's an opportunity for a different. business to hire them and I think that's. true actually and I don't think we would. see that type of systematic. discrimination in the workforce because. the market would I think mostly correct. for it but none of the Libertarians I. know had the spine to stand up and say. that they only had the jelly spine to. stand up to me to say if I think say. then okay then protect political. expression they said that's a violent. violation of libertarian principles.
there's a long answer to question but. it's actually a pretty important. question it makes a lot I actually have. true libertarian instincts but I care as. well about culture and family and I. believe that the Revival of faith not by. the government but maybe by the. government getting out of the way the. Revival of Faith and family in our. country these are good things but. Libertarians don't have views one way or. another on that I do that's why I'm a. conservative but I'm also disappointed. in the Libertarians who will say that. adding. political expression as a protective. classes some libertarian violation when.
they don't say a peep and they become. the lap dogs of the reigning. establishment when they don't touch the. Civil Rights statutes which I absolutely. do think did have some bad unintended. consequences for this country and. the fact that I'm willing to say that. but the Libertarians aren't says that. I'm done with that label and I'm going. to stand for I don't even use the word. conservative even that much the. pro-american label I like that that's. what I'm leading as a pro-american. movement let's talk about your school. she got through you got through. High School you went to Harvard correct.
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and if you don't want to and you just. want to continue to watch the show. that's fine too I appreciate it either. way love you all let's get back to the. show thank you. I ended up actually getting into the. world of Biotech investing instead. there's a hedge fund that recruited on. Harvard's campus and these guys were. smart a lot of them were physicists I. tried a summer internship in the world. of hedge funds at a different hedge fund. I actually was applying more of my.
scientific acumen. even the molecular biology and. everything else in evaluating potential. Investments than I was you know. pipetting things in the lab. and so I was more passionate about that. and actually had a knack that I. discovered an interest certainly in. investing in finding undervalued. opportunities if the crowd's running in. that direction maybe I got to go in that. direction and find opportunity. and to be honest at the age of 22 I was. also hungry to make money actually my. parents weren't Rich there was some guy.
named Jack Welch that had all this. dominion and power over my dad and his. company well. my parents wanted me to pursue some. steady career track as a doctor that we. had Financial Security that we didn't. have to face layoffs my question was. what about who's that other guy right I. think that that's interesting to me I. went to school with kids at Harvard. whose parents came from corridors that. were totally unknown and unfamiliar to. me that I say okay well if they're able. to do it maybe I should focus on that. instead. to tell the truth if I was to go back. and do it again.
I would advise the younger version of. myself. and also begin to think about. maybe Civic service a little earlier in. my life but I just to be totally honest. about it I was ready to win in the. system of free market capitalism and use. and put to use my knowledge based while. doing it being a scientist I mean that's. a 20-year career track to make you know. at best one drug or one medicine. yeah that's too long of a Time Horizon. I'm Gonna Be My Middle Ages by then I'm. ready to get started now it was.
intellectually stimulating and yeah I. was ready to make some money and so I. joined a hedge fund in New York and did. so as a biotech investor. and it turned out I was actually. by you know some good fortune in my way. but I think I had some skill set for it. too tended to be pretty good in it so I. did start making a good amount of money. at a young age but. for me more than the money was the. learning curve I was learning a lot. and then when my learning curve I felt. like it started to flatten a little bit. even though I was making good money I.
said okay I am interested in some of. these other questions relating to Law. And Justice and political philosophy. that I hadn't really fully scratched. while I was in college I was reading. stuff in my spare time in the evenings. that you know or the kinds of things. that. I might have benefited from being a. setting that was actually focused on. these on this passion I discovered and. so I told my bosses at the hedge fund. that I was gonna. leave and take a few years off and go to.
law school I had a seat in law school at. Yale at that point in time and so I said. you know hey guys it's been good I. appreciate it you know probably want to. come back and work here too when I'm. done but I'll see in a few years. at which point they said no no don't. leave don't leave I said no I think I. really want to do this I'm not going to. do this any later than now. and they said you can actually keep your. job if you want to manage a portfolio. from us on your own time from New Haven. if you want to do that go for it would. you be up for that I said absolutely and. that sounded like a good gig.
and so I kept my job uh ended up going. to law school at the same time for those. three years. glad I did it there were three fun years. but perhaps most importantly I so I met. my wife she was my next door neighbor. actually literally she was diagonally. across from me and that was probably the. most tangible thing that came out of. those three years and it also taught me. a lesson how long have you guys murdered. we've been married since 2015. so coming. up on eight years but we've been. together since 2011. congratulations. yeah thank you man two kids in as well.
you're welcome you have kids I do I have. a two-year-old you have a two-year-old. and one on the way yeah one on the way. what are you expecting if you don't mind. me November November exciting man we we. had our second son last year and so mine. are three and a half and one are they. alike they're not alike oh boy they're. not alike I'm in trouble and I don't. think we did anything different okay you. got a good one so I got a good one yeah. they're both good they're good there's. different ways of good but.
well let's talk about the company that. you started then. r-o-i-v-a-n-t how do you say that. roivant Roy event. let's talk about that what prompted that. yeah so uh it was actually so I got out. of law school I had the Dual job and. full-time law school experience when I'm. done with law school I had a lot of time. on my hands because I had gotten used to. getting my job done and you know a very. efficient use of time with the team. surrounding me and otherwise and so I. ended up messing around a little bit.
with my extra time I you know took a. stand-up comedy Course in New York City. ended up starting to do some shows on. the side. I was I was really wasting my time. actually I was having fun you were hold. on you were a rapper and then you became. a stand-up comic yeah I did about 10. shows in New York City after I got out. of law school well I was a manager but. there and the best part of it was. meeting some of the other people who. were there because they were serious. right people who were who came to New. York City to pursue that as their. calling many of whom were more naturally. talented than me though it's amazing.
what that class did actually there's. some basic tricks you could use to get. to be. decent even if you're not natively. gifted which I'm not in this department. but that was one of the things I learned. actually is you carry around a notebook. everywhere you go. and if something irritates the heck out. of you you write it down in that. notebook and usually there's something. good there it irritates you for a reason. irritation annoyance is a valuable a. useful emotion. and so you know I think that's one.
formula for developing good content for. stand-up comedy but it actually for me. ended up being a good formula for. developing an idea to start a company. so all of those biotech companies that. I'm meeting with as an investor. there are a lot of things that annoyed. the heck out of me about the way those. companies ran their businesses I mean. big Pharma and biotech it's like a. bureaucracy actually it's a regulated. industry by a corrupt agency the FDA. that makes for a 10-year multi-billion. dollar process of developing a new. medicine far more inefficient and. bureaucratic than it needs to be it's.
also a government-created monopoly. system through the patent system that it. just creates an industry that behaves. like a government and that's pretty. irritating when it happens. but I also spotted an opportunity as a. consequence of that and so it turns out. that these people in big Pharma these. scientists they don't make. really any serious money if they're the. ones who develop a successful drug it's. the executive ranks and the shareholders. who benefit from it but if they take a. risk and they fail. then they're punished for it unless it's.
the same risk that every other Pharma. company takes and everybody else fails. then you're with the pack but if you. take a risk that other people aren't. willing to take and you fail then you're. a pariah and you might lose your job as. a consequence and you don't bear the. financial upside of it anyway so you. have a bunch of people who are have an. incentive to go slowly they don't care. about getting to the answers quickly. and by the way even if they didn't get. there quickly they're not benefiting if. they succeed but they do. face the downside if they fail. so that creates a couple of. opportunities. what opportunities there's a range of.
drugs and they move like herds it's like. a pack mentality and big Pharma okay and. so they decide okay this is the hot area. but then they all decide okay something. else in the hot area they all move is a. pack it's almost softly coordinated and. the FDA AIDS in this too because the FDA. decides what areas they're going to make. easier versus harder from a regulatory. perspective it's it's corrupt but that. leaves. or at least it did when I started the. company I think it still does today. opportunities. to develop medicines that they then. leave behind as they as the you know. battleships really change course there's.
really a lot of opportunities still. hanging in the wake of that battleship. so what I said is okay we can develop. some of those drugs that they just drop. in the early or mid stages of the. process pick up the ones that are. valuable you don't know which ones are. going to work for sure but you can use. a data-driven lens to figure out which. ones have a good shot build a portfolio. of those some of them are going to work. some of them are going to fail. but enough if enough of them work that's. the basis for building a billion dollar. company so when I present that plan to. people people after that.
they say well why would these Pharma. companies leave these things behind if. they have real promise. well a few years in it was a. multi-billion dollar company and it was. a company that now has developed drugs. five of which that I personally worked. on are FDA approved products today one. is a life-saving therapy in kids. 20 of them are born a year die of a. genetic disease where a hundred percent. of them die by the age of three oh wow. we worked on a therapy it's now FDA. approved a majority of those kids live. lives of normal duration another one's.
for prostate cancer another for women's. health conditions that Pharma abandoned. here they talk a lot about diversity in. their hiring ranks well you know. endometriosis uterine fibroids a lot of. women's health conditions that were. ignored we developed medicines that are. FDA approved today. so that was my that was my career oh and. by the way the unique feature of doing. this was a business model where we said. if those scientists then come or drug. developers from those Pharma companies. come to us and they're working on the. project. if that project succeeds they get.
uncapped upside in it so many of the. people who came and worked in units of. my company they're now doing way better. they did extraordinarily life-changing. wealth creation for them that they would. have never had in big Pharma and that. was the business model for royban which. I led as CEO for seven years wow that's. amazing Pharma hated me for it they. still do to this day actually let's talk. about big Pharma yeah you know I've. heard that big Pharma is the the world's. biggest lobbying organization I think.
that's accurate how much of the. government do they control. they only control the portion of the. government they need to control which is. the FDA which is the center for Medicare. Medicaid services CMS and they're pretty. effective at controlling it actually so. a lot of the regulatory hurdle for. developing a new medicine. that actually helps big Pharma because. it makes it harder for a competitor to. scale that same cost of capital. story. so just think about the hypocrisy.
underlying this you see what happened. with the coveted vaccines right. the same FDA that says you have to take. 10 years to develop a new medicine or a. vaccine and spend billions of dollars. so much so. that not only are we gonna. not say it's safe we won't even give an. individual the opportunity to in their. own free spirit with full information. try it you don't even have the right to. try it if it hasn't been through 10.
years of testing we the government will. not give you that choice. is the same government. that then says oh but here's a vaccine. that makes it through in less than one. year. and you don't have the choice not to. take it your only choice is to take it. you can't believe those things at the. same time that here's a medicine that's. been through five years of testing and. you don't have the choice to take it. even if you want to. is the same government that says that. here's something that sailed through in.
less than one year and you have no. choice but not to take it you can't. believe those two things at the same. time. that's the product of hypocritical. lobbying that's the answer there you. have it right there is Big Pharma wins. on both sides of that trade on one hand. they win. from it having to take that much longer. because at least keeps the competition. out for the normal process but under. circumstances where they're going to. stand to benefit from it we'll get a. fast track process to say not only do. you get to develop it at the public. taxpayers expense by the way funding the.
entire process but mandates to have to. take what they developed. that's corrupt that's broken that's why. I favor a dramatic drastic gutting of. the FDA. it's something that even. you know my time in Industry here's what. they would say I I was I had views that. were critical of the FDA but I had to. keep them to myself because the thing. they told me and I was running a company. right my job was not being a public. figure or spokesman it was to be the CEO. of a successful company that I was. leading thousands of people.
jobs created behind actually the. medicines were developing I can't just. leave them hanging out to dry because I. say something bad about the FDA there's. an old industry adage. in Pharma quiet everybody in Pharma. knows this adage to be true. they say FDA never forgets. so if you say something about the FDA. they will make it hell for you you will. have hell to pay for it. and it was funny actually even when I. went to law school I mean this is after. years of being a biotech investor it was. like an eye-opening experience for me to.
say that wait the FDA is actually Bound. by law. that was a revelation to me. if somebody's working in the industry. people in the farm industry aren't. thought to think that way either whoa. the FDA is thought to be God. but the fact that they're Bound by law. that's like a novel notion for most. people. who work in the interstices of this. industry and so that's the way it works. what you think of as some mid-level. government bureaucrat. whose name you'll never know and never. care to know this guy's like a king when.
it comes to the farm industry and what. does he want he gets the job on the way. out a lucrative job on the other side so. that's the way this works it is a. corrupt game and you know what now I'm. not CEO of that company I'm a free. citizen speaking freely I'm not holding. back but I understand this deeply in. this otherwise it's personal to me it's. it is a personal sense of mission. to make sure that that administrative. state that I've stared eye to eye. now it's time to expose to the rest of. the public how that game is actually.
played and. it isn't pretty is the answer. since we're on the topic of you know. privatized companies controlling the. government I'd like to get into. BlackRock you have some great Insight on. that we're seeing we're seeing this woke. lgbtq plus I mean it's just being. crammed down. everyone's throat every company even. America I mean even. the gay community a lot of the gay. communities they're. they're angry they don't like this they.
don't they don't want this push. why so it sounds like it's all coming. from BlackRock because they own what 80. percent of the companies or the majority. shares of 80 of the companies on the s p. why are they pushing this so it's. BlackRock State Street Vanguard Invesco. you go down the list but it's like an. ESG cartel in this country okay so. here's the way this works and. so so I've I've gone deep on this issue. so if I'm going into too much.
depth or detail that's boring just cut. me off and we can move on but this is a. this is my mission for the last three. years before running for president this. is what I did okay is fight this stuff. two of my books are about this in the. most recent company I found at strive. was about fighting against this by. offering an alternative. so what happens is the largest asset. managers in the world just take the. three biggest ones BlackRock State. Street and Vanguard. they're using 20 plus trillion dollars. of our money and when I say our money it.
literally means our money most people's. money without them knowing it it's. happened to me it's happened to probably. most retirees their own money. is invested. in funds managed by these passive fund. managers BlackRock State Street in. Vanguard. that are using that capital. to vote for policies and advocate for. policies in corporate America's. boardrooms. that most Americans including the owners. of capital do not agree with.
and which do not Advance their best. financial interests I'll give you. examples voting for racial Equity audits. at companies like apple and Home Depot. scope 3 emissions caps and climate plans. at companies like Chevron and Exxon. these are not policies that Advance the. success of those companies. these are policies that Advance a. one-sided Progressive agenda and the. Dirty Little Secret is they're not using. somebody else's or their money to do it.
they're using our money to do it it is. happening every day in this country. it is the largest aggregation of capital. in private hands in human history. and they're using it to advance. one-sided political agendas that. Congress could not pass through the. front door this is a large-scale. violation of fiduciary duty in my. opinion it is a large-scale antitrust. anti-competitive violation because these. three firms are the largest really. relevant shareholders that vote shares. Microsoft and Apple at Disney and.
Paramount Pictures at Pepsi and Coke. Coca-Cola. he'd go down the list you're taught that. you have a free market economy well when. both sides of the competition are. effectively controlled by the same set. of actors that's not competition that's. an oligopoly especially when it comes to. it's not oligopoly and products they're. still competing on products. but it's a monopoly on ideas. environmental and social agendas so now. back to your question.
why are they doing it. answer. their business model is to charge fees. on how many assets they manage okay. and the biggest people directing assets. dollars to Blackrock and State Street in. Vanguard are institutions like. Calpers Pension funds the California. state pension fund or the New York state. pension fund and what those government. actors have said these are government. actors now. is to say that we won't let you manage.
the money of this pension fund now the. individual pensioners in California's. pension system I bet don't know this. but that you don't get to manage our. money as BlackRock unless you adopt. these racial and gender radiologies and. that you vote shares accordingly. oh and that's not just with California's. money unless you do it with all of the. money that you manage. that's the Dirty Little Secret so my. most recent book capitalist punishment. is all about this woke Ink My First book. touches on it more lightly.
and this is a scam I mean this is the. largest scale breach of trust. I would call it go so far as to call it. a form of financial fraud in the 21st. century. let me. dub it down for me so this is the this. is our electives really quickly it is. hard to dumb it down okay and the reason. it's hard to dumb it down is it is. designed to be complicated for a reason. it is designed to be complicated to hide. it from you it is designed to sound. boring to hide it from you so the. complexity is on purpose but but I will.
try to be simpler on it let me let me. yeah you try the way I understand it is. you have elected officials in California. who are telling BlackRock that they will. not allow them to manage the Pension. funds from the state of California. unless they adopt this woke agenda as. they vote their shares through all of. the states yes so they have to manage. all of the Pension funds uh this in the. same manner they have to invite the. shares they have to vote the shares and.
speak as a shareholder in the boardrooms. in the same manner that's right because. when BlackRock is buying shares in Pepsi. or in Disney or in Target or in Nike. they speak with one voice right they. don't speak with California's voice and. then Ohio's voice and then Iowa's voice. no they're speaking with one voice. so they're speaking on behalf of the. voice that the biggest dog in their. client base Calpers is pushing them. around to do and it's not just Calpers. it's a state of New York it's European. Pension funds it's Canadian Pension. funds right that's exactly what's.
driving the Invisible Hand of the market. no it is the Invisible Hand of left-wing. government. so that's the Dirty Little Secret so. many Republicans who talk about this. issue again they say sloppy things right. they're investing in woke companies. that's not the problem. the problem is they're investing in all. companies but causing all companies to. have to adopt these policies right. that's the real problem. and so I told you about how I challenged. and stood up to Big Pharma I stood up to.
this ESG industrial complex again as an. entrepreneur. I founded a company called strive. people say oh are you then going to just. invest in the good companies and not in. the vocals no guys that's not the way it. works these are index funds and so the. blackrocket States during Vanguard. launch so strive launched index funds. whose purpose was to offer the same. kinds of index funds that the blackrocks. and vanguards of the world do. but with a key difference. to vote shares and to speak as a. shareholder with a different voice in.
those boardrooms to give those CEOs air. cover to say that not all shareholders. are demanding this to say that here's. the message to you guys Corporate. America. as a shareholder. Focus exclusively on your products and. services for profit to maximize value. for your shareholders. period that's it and that's a different. voice so the once strive came out of the. scene then BlackRock and State student. Vanguard started to have to get on their. back foot.
right that's what that's how you drive. changes in this country is not just. through government it is through. competition. and so that was my career right driving. change you know calling big Farmer's. Bluff driving behavioral change there. capturing opportunity same thing with. strive bring an alternative to Blackrock. I believe in the same thing in Tech I. was one of the first private investors. in Rumble which is challenging YouTube I. Believe In driving change through the. market. as an entrepreneur but we're not going. to be able. to really do this until we fix the head. of the snake which is the Deep state in.
the federal government itself which is. what sends me on this Mission I'm on now. and the fact of the matter is I'd rather. be doing this as an entrepreneur but I. can't get that job done that job done. through the private sector which is why. I'm doing what I'm doing today when did. you start strive. I started strive uh feels like an. eternity ago but it was last year last. year how much money last January the. first fund only launched in August it's. approaching a billion dollars it's north. of 800 maybe I'm tracked recently maybe.
800 plus million dollars approaching. rapidly approaching a billion. it it isn't even a year since launching. the first fund the first fund launched. late August or so last year JP Morgan. when it got into the ETF business took. two years to cross a billion dollars and. so I don't believe in failing at the. things I do congratulations success yeah. that's amazing thank you man. talk about similar and by the way I I. have it's actually very important I. think it relates to. I think it's very hard for example to.
run for president as a governor to wear. two hats or as a senator right because. then you have multiple objectives I. don't believe in that so I stepped down. from the boards in my positions at. royvent at strive at chapter another. company that's doing great and that I. was successful in co-founding and sat on. the board on. I don't want to be thinking about that. and wearing two hatches and running for. president and so that wasn't required of. me but I made the choice to step down. from my board positions to focus. exclusively on the mission of.
serving the people of this country as. the duly elected president of the United. States good for you and I think it's. hard to do that and I empathize with it. it's hard position for somebody to be. and if they're still. in whatever other position there even in. a governor position right are the things. you're doing. the things that help you win the. presidency or are they the things that's. best for the people you serve in that. state and most of the time those are. going to overlap but. I believe it's we're all at our best. when we have a sole purpose and that's. why.
this is not my sole purpose let's say I. strive continues on this trajectory how. long do you think how long do you. anticipate it would take to start to. combat BlackRock Vanguard State Street. well so the good news is I think strive. has already had a dramatic and combined. with some of my public commentary and. otherwise a dramatic impact on the. behaviors of BlackRock State Street in. Vanguard who have now. ESG is now even a bad word of BlackRock. now the reality is they're just making. up new words to take its place.
sustainability conscious capitalism. but strives success I think was probably. the single greatest factor in the United. States of America that turned ESG from. the Dogma when I started strive the. reason football told me it wasn't going. to succeed is they said this stuff's. already the cake is baked guys you're. you're a couple years late to this. there's no way you're going to change. that because that's just the due. diligence factors and the questionnaires. you're gonna have to fill out even to. get off the ground to have a client well.
less than a year in ESG has then become. actually a toxic word and many of even. BlackRock is now on their back foot and. so it's already drive and change but in. terms of to competed that skill that'll. take a long time you know I I believe. going faster than both as I said JP. Morgan when they got into the ETF. business took two years to cross a. billion strives on a faster trajectory. you know almost reaching that Mark I'm. not up to speed and following day to day. anymore but you know it's it's call it. rapidly approaching a billion dollars. within its first year.
but there's a capable CEO now running. the company he actually is a guy who I. was honored to recruit he was one of the. top portfolio managers at Calpers. actually interesting yeah whose family. was a family of public servants and cops. who got sick and tired of what he saw. over there he moved his family to Ohio. to take the job and he's now the CEO of. strive and and you know. have confidence in his ability to take. it to the next level but he's doing that.
without you know my journey here is a. different Journey that I'm now on but. there are going to be changing this. country is going to require. people in the public sector in the. private sector as parents as coaches. it's not going to be someone coming from. on high in the White House to do it and. I think that companies from strive to. rumble to otherwise are going to have to. be part of that Revival in the economy. as well. are there any other companies combating. this along with strive not in the ESG. domain that I'm familiar with not at the. scale that strive is there's actually I.
should I should say that there's there's. a guy called Andy puzder who's actually. a good friend of mine who had started a. different type of firm called second. vote that was you know taking a. different approach I think what they. were doing was yeah I think they were. divesting from some of the companies. that were behaving more woke from funds. at their office it's a different method. is my understanding and I haven't been. tracking this in a while but Andy's a. great guy really love Andy and so you. know I think they haven't reached the.
scale that strive has but. I applaud what he's doing actually and. it's important and so I predict there. will be others that pop up that's what. happens usually when you have early. successes but the second vote was one of. those other efforts which I applaud as. well actually they're based some of. their folks are based here in Tennessee. and I think it's going to take more. successful actors doing this in the. private sector and I you know respect. Andy puzder as a PR as a friend for. doing what he's doing Dave black one of. the people who was behind that. it's going to take other good Patriots.
driving change not just through. government but through the private. sector as well and you know I applaud. the people who have the courage to. actually step up and make that sacrifice. as entrepreneurs yeah you know I know. Andy as well I'm hoping to get them all. you didn't talk about but you should. talk to a place here he's very. knowledgeable about it he and our good. friends and even though you know. I started strive and he was involved. with second vote. we respect what each other are doing and. you know I think I wish nothing but. success on folks like Andy who want to.
do this at scale that's what it's going. to take in order to really Drive. real change for the better in our. economy and I don't think I'm. exaggerating what I'm saying this right. people ask about well do you care about. what capitalism or do you care about. economic Revival. these things are deeply linked actually. you look at the last 50 years Europe. adopted right for the latter half of the. 20th century the multi-stakeholder model. the idea that businesses should focus on. social agendas other than products and.
profit whereas the U.S in the latter. half of the 20th century adopted the. alternative vision. that is a fundamental reason why total. stock market returns in the U.S are way. better than that of Europe we won they. lost that's the answer and yet the. bizarre thing is The Winning Side is now. adopting the losing size philosophy to. now give us the next 50 years where we. will have stagnation and so I think. there is a deep relationship between the. economic stagnation we've seen in this. country. and the abandonment of the philosophy of.
unbridled Unapologetic excellence in our. system of free market capitalism that. got us this far that's part of what I. think is going to put us on a lower. growth trajectory unless we change it. and so these issues I think are deeply. linked actually. let's move on to Southern border stuff. sure how. I've heard that you're going to consider. a military assault on Mexican on Mexican. drug cartels is that true I don't think. we're gonna have to get there you don't.
what I've said is that we will use the. military to secure our own Southern. border oh good I believe the top job at. the U.S military I'll give it to you. part of what's happened in our military. I mean I know with your experience you. may have unique perspectives on this. yourself and so I don't mean to be. talking at you on this but I'm sharing. with you my perspectives on why I think. the military's lost its way. is that it's lost its sense of purpose. actually especially at the top. especially starting with the. commander-in-chief but also the. managerial class in the Pentagon when an.
institution loses its way that leaves a. void that's when poison fills the void. wokeness in the military that's a. symptom of a deeper loss of purpose. fighting Wars that I think have not. Advanced the national interest of the. United States and so the top job of the. US military under my watch. is to protect Americans here on American. soil protect the Homeland number two. deter War number three win Wars when. necessary so I go in that order so I. don't want to start some War that's not. going to be necessary but I'm not also.
going to be on the one-sided receiving. end of a war that we refuse to wake up. and see and we are on the receiving end. of a one-sided Opium War in this country. the China is quietly waging on us. China is actually I'm not making this up. from all places Wuhan China. synthetic precursors to make synthetic. fentanyl in the hands of Mexican drug. cartels south of our own Southern border. and if you have any doubt about the. intentionality of that ask yourself why. there's hundreds of Chinese chemists. south of our own Southern border working.
with those drug cartels pumping up. fentanyl across our Southern border not. marketed even as fentanyl but lacing it. in Percocet and Other Drugs that people. don't know fentanyl's in that's what's. happening in this country. by the way this is just an aside but if. China can do that. to use fentanyl as an intentional tool. as Opium War in the United States now. I don't think it's a far-fetched at. least ask the question same place that a. man-made pandemic originated of whether. the pharmaceutical supply chain could.
eventually be laced with the same. fentanyl as well I think it's a. legitimate question. to actually ask if they're lacing. Percocet that's coming in illegally. through the southern border why wouldn't. they lace legal Percocet through that. which is the supply chain relies on from. China as well. and I say this is somebody who knows a. little something about this industry. as we know what begins as a conspiracy. theory originally becomes a prediction. of reality tomorrow I think we have to. be asking these questions what I've said. is that no I do not want to be on the. side of a one-sided War that's being.
fought where we refuse to acknowledge it. but I want to be smart about this. here's how we're going to do it. we will use the military to seize just. to close. the holes in the Swiss cheese of a. southern border that we now have down. there. that's how we actually solve the problem. the wall has not been enough. we have to use the military to seal the. Border. that I think solves the influx of the. migrants the influx of 14 000 people. entering this country daily illegally.
fifty thousand deaths fifty thousand. plus deaths probably more per year. resulting from fentanyl illegally. crossing that southern border and then. also eliminate the incentives no federal. funding for Sanctuary cities that's. disastrous not a dime a foreign aid to. Mexico or Guatemala or Belize or. Nicaragua I have no patience for it. we're done with it until we have worked. with them effectively to close Mexico's. own Southern border actually which is. actually where many of those migrants. come from I mean do you think do you.
think that's even a possibility because. the cartels are so in I mean they're. intertwined with government now well. here's what I will say you're right. Mexico needs to regain its own. sovereignty so here's the steps I would. take first seal our own Southern border. with our military that I think is. solvable. next is Mexico and these other countries. they're not going to get aid until they. actually regain their own sovereignty. now it's not. it's not as much of a lost cause as it. might seem right I mean oberdor has been. a disaster amlo he's the president of. Mexico now his hugs not bullets.
policy you know it's been. a disaster as you would predict. you actually had a president who came. before him who was actually willing to. be tougher on this issue but we have a. presidential election coming up in. Mexico actually in 2024 I'm paying close. attention to this Claudia scheinbaum is. the lead candidate she is from amlo's. party but she's a different person. and so here's what I plan to do we'll. seal that southern border we'll close.
the tap on any Aid. and I'm gonna have a conversation with. Claudia if she's indeed the duly elected. president early on in my tournament say. listen up. we will help you regain your sovereignty. by providing aid for a tiny fraction of. what we gave to Ukraine which by the way. I'm done with that we'll talk about. ending the Ukraine war but that's what. we need to do this is a war that does. not Advance American interests I will. end it I have a clear vision and plan of. how to do it okay we should not be. protecting The Invasion against somebody. else's border somewhere halfway around. the world when we have an invasion on.
our own Southern border that we're doing. nothing about. so for a tiny fraction of that cost I. will tell Claudia we will help you. we will do it for a tiny fraction of. what we spend in Ukraine we will help. you regain your sovereignty. we're using our military to seal our own. Border in the meantime you're not. getting a dime of aid from us in the. meantime it is not in your interests to. continue this hugs not bullets policy. solve your own problem. but if you don't. and if it's still spilling. into our yard.
then we will come in and solve it for. you. that's the answer if you have a neighbor. just think about it in your neighborhood. okay. you don't want to go into your. neighbor's lawn and shoot the dog. that comes and keeps biting your family. members that's your neighbor's job to. take care of but if you have a dog that. daily comes over a rabid dog that's. biting your own family members. then you show up when that dog is about. to come over and you shoot it and you. put bring it to its end.
that's how you solve it first you build. the fence make sure the dog doesn't come. over without you I will take that step. even sooner than shooting the dog but if. that dog is still coming through that. fence and biting my family members yes I. will take over and go over in there with. whatever gun of a size needed to get the. job done. and put that dog to its end. so I refuse to be on the receiving end. of a one-sided War but I don't think. we're gonna have to use our military. over it because we will. make sure that Mexico solves its own.
problem I have full confidence they will. I think Claudia Sean Bob will have an. incentive to regain her sovereignty in a. way that amlo did not have a spine to do. but it's going to take a president with. a spine to see that through and that's. what I'm bringing to the table you. really think that Mexico can take care. of their own problems they can still if. we with with Aid I mean I mean with a. tiny fraction of what we've given I mean. think about what we've given you know. this. clown in Eastern Europe really can't. even account for what we've given them I. mean Abram's tanks we're talking about. how many javelins we've given this I.
mean this is for a fraction of what. we've armed. zielinski with yes I do think it is. still possible for Mexico to get this. job done. if they can't and we do have to send in. military to go down there how do you. have you thought about how you would do. that yes it needs to be lit up with. intelligence first. so the problem is the NSA has completely. abandoned any intelligence operation. south of our own border wasting. intelligence resources in the Middle.
East that I think are far poorer use of. our resources so if Trump was able to do. it to Isis that was a far harder. challenge I think my challenge in doing. that the Mexican drug cartels would be. much easier than what Trump had to do. with Isis but the intelligence. Foundation is key and I think we don't. have that yet and so while I'm working. with Claudia Sean Bob to reach the right. conclusion we'll have intelligence. sharing and otherwise but we're going to. get a head start on what we're going to. need to do in order to solve that. problem. let's move on to Ukraine. how do we I mean what is even going on.
here is this is this just they refuse to. tell us the fact that we're voting. against even an audit. of how much money we've given them tells. you how designed this corrupt process is. to be corrupt. a lot of American taxpayers don't know. this they should our taxpayer money is. literally paying the salaries of the. Ukrainian government officials right now. so it's not only paying for our own deep. state in this country it's paying for. the Deep state in Ukraine. this is madness and so what I've said is.
I would end the war I will end the war. by doing a deal on terms that will. advance our interests. a deal requires everybody to get. something out of the trade that includes. Putin so here's the deal I would do. freeze the current lines of control a. Korean War style Armistice agreement. I will further make a hard commitment. that NATO will not and will never admit. Ukraine to Nato. but in return we get something greater. what is that.
China and Russia have to end their. military Alliance Russia has to pull out. of its military partnership with China. that is the single greatest threat we. face in this country from a military. perspective. Russia has the largest nuclear stockpile. in the world has Hypersonic missile. capabilities ahead of that of the U.S. and China China has Naval capacity. especially in the South China Sea ahead. of the U.S and an economy that we depend. on for the shoes on our feet or the. phones in our pockets our modern way of. life. that is the single greatest threat we. face.
so in return for that deal Putin has to. exit his military alliance with China. I'll make him remove the nuclear weapons. from kaliningrad the little strip. bordering Poland and remove any Russian. military presence from the Western. Hemisphere. Cuba Nicaragua Venezuela yes there are. Russian troops on the ground get them. out of the western hemisphere in return. we'll also open up economic relations. with Russia I do believe we're the ones. that foolishly bombed the Nordstrom one. and two we will rebuild that I think we. want economic integration of Russia back. into Western Europe and even with the.
West. then Putin has no reason to be in bed. with China. that's how we drive generational change. and peace not just in Ukraine not just. to save the money but now Russia's not. in China's Camp Xi Jinping will have to. think twice before going after Taiwan. because she's in Pig's BET right now. is that the U.S won't want to mess with. two different Allied nuclear superpowers. at the same time that's what gives him. the confidence to go after Taiwan but if. Russia is no longer in his camp and then. we'll talk about if you want about how.
we get India on side as well. but mostly Russia if we get Russia no. longer in his camp. Xi Jinping definitely has to think twice. before going after that. island nation that's actually. increasingly armed. that is how we at once end the war in. Ukraine. but also deter China from going after. Taiwan without going to war over it. that's the kind of leadership we need as. opposed to a neocon establishment now in. both parties and basically every other.
candidate in this race on the Republican. side other than Trump is a neocon. and basically every Democrat who's. running other than Bernie Sanders or. who's run recent history other than. Bernie Sanders is also a neocon. it's a neocon consensus that is marching. us closer to World War III which I think. is a great risk we Face the risk of. World War III and nuclear war involving. Russia. it's going up every day and nobody's. talking about it I am deeply worried. about this but I think as U.S president. I will be in a position to end the.
madness to be transparent to speak the. truth. to stop pretending that Ukraine is some. Bastion of democracy it's not. and to actually stand and even if it. were it's not our job to protect it it's. their job to protect themselves that's. the answer I love what you're saying. I really do I I don't see I mean. you did a live with uh Elon Musk on. Twitter uh the other day and yeah I. found that fascinating Elon said I can't. remember if it was during that live or. some other point but he he was talking. about how the US is weaponized its.
currency now we see bricks coming about. scanning a lot of momentum you know they. want to start their own currency backed. by gold apparently so. with that gaining so much momentum you. know. um Brazil Russia India China China South. Africa Argentina is getting involved. Iran Saudi Arabia there's a lot of. countries that are. that are moving towards this because we. put sanctions on countries we've. weaponized our dollar and it's hurt a.
lot of countries you know whether they. deserve it or not I see their point in. them the funniest part and you know this. well Sean those sanctions don't even. work anymore then right sanctions only. work if the nation doesn't have an. alternative now we're just driving. everybody into China's hands yes so so. with all the momentum that they're. making with bricks in the new currency. why would they I mean why would they. stop I don't understand what what would. be the incentive so it's still. relatively early is the good news and. this is why domestic policy and foreign.
policy go together I've said that. actually the sole job of the U.S federal. reserve should be to stabilize the US. dollar I would Peg the U.S dollar. to a basket of Commodities gold silver. nickel. an agricultural and farm commodities. that will ground stability in the U.S. dollar again which then for Many Nations. will make the appeal of the dollar. higher relative to switching over to. Bricks I think that also reopening. economic relations with Russia will be a. a giant leap forward and Russia still. would love economic relations with the.
West if they could actually trust us. we've given Putin no reason to trust us. we don't trust Putin but we can trust. each other to follow our self-interest. and I think that that's something that. makes this far more salvageable than it. might seem but it's going to take a. dramatic change in leadership and. Direction and just putting another. neocon in charge from the Republican. party instead of Biden claiming the. Republicans won that's not going to do. the job. it's going to have to take like I said. the question in the beginning do you. want reform. or do you want Revolution I think this.
is a moment for Revolution and we need. nothing short of one in order to. actually Salvage what this country was. founded on. that makes a lot of sense let's let's. talk about the digital dollar there's a. lot of talk about moving into this. digital currency the Central Bank. currency how is that going to affect us. and do you think that do you think this. is going to happen. I do not think it's going to happen if. I'm president and I expect to be. president so it's not going to happen. they're moving taking steps in that. direction the FED now program taken.
steps towards the Central Bank digital. currency that will take years you know. five plus years to really roll out and. Implement I'll put the kibosh on it in. January of 2025 and the good news is. this is something the next president can. and it absolutely is able to do. the real threat with the Central Bank. digital currency is that. China's doing it for a different reason. right the argument here is that China's. doing it so we have to keep up with the. Joneses or keep up with the jinpings as. the case may be and keep a strong dollar.
no it's the opposite China is doing it. because they want to penalize citizens. they want to weaponize the currency to. say that if you're out of step with what. the CCP wants you to do. well you're going to have the money in. your bank account wiped down we've seen. a move taken from that page from the. play from that Playbook taken from. Trudeau in how he dealt with the. Canadian Truckers. so that's actually something we should. be frightened of here at home and I. don't think it makes the dollar more.
valuable to be digital. I think it makes the dollar more. valuable to say that we're the one. currency where you can't do that even as. the UK and Canada and other countries. turn to a central bank digital currency. and so that's where I'm at on it is I'm. a hardliner against it I was talking. about this issue long before it was a. popular issue people told me it was. boring and you're putting people to. sleep no I said stop boring it it's. fundamental right and so now I'm glad. that it's become a little bit part more. part of the conversation at least in.
this Republican primary but you're going. to need a President Who. again who understands this deeply rather. than as a native and taught tongue. because here's what happens it's like a. it's like a water balloon it's like a. hydraulic pump system you squeeze it in. one place it's gonna pop up somewhere. else right. and so this is what frustrates me about. many republican professional politicians. is that they they know the slogans or at. least they can learn them like a parrot. but the other side is actually two steps. ahead by the time they've learned the. slogan it's already a new thing it's not.
ESG anymore it's sustainability it's not. cbdc it's going to be the next thing. okay and so we've got to understand the. why in order to be alert to how that. threat's going to represent itself okay. we got about 10 minutes left I want to. talk about I want to end this with the. world economic forum so. you sued him I did there was a there's a. growing concern about globalization and. the world economic forum they put they. they. just the floor is yours what's going on.
here with the world economic Forum I. mean this is the old world rearing its. ugly head again that Vision that said. that the people the citizens of Nations. cannot be trusted to sort out their. differences in a democratic process or. in a constitutional republic that a. small group of Elites have to make that. decision for the rest of society at. large from the mountaintops of Davos. this is the old world view it's what we. fought an American Revolution to avoid. and so I've been probably the single. greatest advocate against that agenda.
here in the United States starting with. woke Inc starting with a lot of my. scholarship exposing exactly what. they're doing starting with then my next. book capitalist punishment and that's. why I started strive to stand up to the. economic agenda I think I am probably. Klaus Schwabs and Larry Fink's worst. nightmare certainly have been over the. last several years. one of the things they thought they. could do was perhaps defang me so a few. years ago they name a bunch of young. people from you know Elon Musk to Mark. Zuckerberg to others over the years who.
they've named on their list of young. global leaders and it's interesting. because they'll name people in these. Awards who are somewhat what they. perceive as threats Glenn Beck has been. named Glenn Beck is one of the greatest. Patriots in this country who has stood. up against this agenda Elon Musk is on. that list Tulsi gabbard so they'll have. this bad habit so they did it to me. I don't take that lightly so I believe. in civility. I said take my name down they didn't. take it down. I had rejected the award when it was. first offered I was still named on their. list.
and so I said you know what I'm actually. going to take the step of delivering. accountability I sued them and most. importantly what we got out of that was. the number one thing I asked for going. in not just a public acknowledgment of. exactly what happened. and an apology to go with it it's not. about me it's about the future a hard. commitment. not to ever do this to anybody again. without their permission they did it to. Elon they done it to others it's not. going to happen again thanks to the. lawsuit that I brought but that's just. one small step.
okay. this is a broader battle between the. great reset. this Vision that we have to dissolve the. boundaries between the public and the. private sector between nations to work. together towards the global common good. that's the vision of the great reset. versus what we need on the other side. that is what I am trying to lead here. the great uprising that says absolutely. no to that Vision that we the people we.
the citizens of nations of this nation. we decide through our self-governance. exactly how we live our lives you will. not tell us from abroad. and I think that that's one of the. questions that's on the table today in. the United States of America. self-governance. and sovereignty itself. as U.S president I've said that I will. not use a dime of taxpayer resources. to fund institutions that are yes. hostile to our sovereignty the who.
absolutely on the list we're not going. to fund it anymore we're done with it. I think there are deep questions about. even the continued. purpose of our involvement in the U.N. I think that we ought to be able to ask. that question and ask how are we. advancing American interests when I can. do a deal. bilaterally between a nation and Ally I. will do that sooner than any entering. any multilateral Arrangements we have to. regain our sovereignty as a nation and.
as Citizens we have to regain our power. of self-governance over aristocracy. that is why I say this is a 1775 moment. in this country and I think 2024 can be. a 1776 style election of Reviving those. ideals of the American Revolution do I. mean some kind of in some physical sense. no I mean it in the sense of Reviving. those ideals that our country was. founded on. and that's frankly what I'm in this race. to deliver and my whole point in this is. I'm not going to try to. say something to everybody to please.
them say one thing to the donor class. another to you know Patriots who show up. at a rally no I don't play that game. I'll say the same thing to everybody. this is who I am. this is what I stand for and if. everybody in this country. at the end of this process knows exactly. who I am and what I stand for and that's. not what they want I'm at peace with. that. deeply at peace with that that is fine. by me. but we have a machine that's designed to. distort that reality and it's gonna be.
my job to cut through it if we do I've. done my job. I believe that is what the people of. this country will demand that we have in. the White House. I don't relish the job of being. president I'm gonna be very honest with. you. I really don't. but. I'm doing it because. it is what I believe God put me here to. do and in this moment in our history. it's not the most important job but God. put us each of us here for a purpose.
and we have to follow that purpose and. what God's plan is will be revealed and. if the voters of this country don't want. that that's great I'm at peace with that. but I think it's going to take somebody. coming from the outside who has a deep. understanding of the law and. constitutions of this country. and even more importantly a deep. understanding of how to reach the Next. Generation. I'm the youngest person ever running for. president as a serious candidate. I'd be the youngest president ever. elected if elected. it is going to take bringing that next.
Generation along with us. this can't be that 50.1 election it has. to be a landslide in order to deliver on. the kinds of things I'm talking about. here we need a moral mandate to do it. this is our moment. and you know frankly that's what. motivates me every day to go from 7am to. 11 pm as we are seven days a week and. you know I've put 15 plus million. dollars into this campaign to avoid. having to ask. some Mega donor for permission to run. taking a hat in hand ring in a tin can. it's a broken system it's corrupt.
it's ugly. it's a Super PAC primary already. but I'm going to do my part we're gonna. make those sacrifices financially and. otherwise we'll stop at nothing. but you know I say if the people of this. country do their part and they call me. to serve I will do mine well I like a. lot of what I'm hearing and um once. again I just want to commend you for. getting out amongst the people and doing. non-traditional media long form. interviews you're great on your feed. got great ideas I'm I'm really proud.
that um. that I got you here and and uh for the. long form interview and I wish you the. best of luck thank you man I appreciate. it being here and. you should keep doing what you're doing. too I think it's important not just with. me but for. everyone in this country to know every. one of those candidates so good people. we have different visions. but they're good people Earnest in it. for the right reasons too and as long as. the people of this country know the. truth without it being filtered through. an artificial media Echo chamber I think.
good things are going to happen in this. country and. I'm really glad we came down here to do. this me too I wish you the best of luck. thank you man. [Music]. hey everybody I'm Sean Ryan click here. to subscribe to the Sean Ryan Show. YouTube channel for the hottest and most. compelling interviews that you will not.
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