Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar | SRS #200
[Music]. Tom Hman, welcome to the show. Thanks. for having me. Oh, thanks for coming. We've been trying to get this done. since Yeah, I feel like it's been like 6. months we've been playing uh phone tag. and trying to get you in here. So, I. just I really appreciate you taking the. time and um I've been looking forward to. this interview for a very long time. And. then I and then I thought it I I just. thought it would never happen as as busy. as you are. So, I'm busy, but I'm I'm.
I'm glad I'm here. I think this is. uh you got huge bandwidth and American. people need to know what's going. happening in this country right now. Thank you. Thank you. But, um so I'd. like to do a life story on you on the. front half of the interview and um kind. of talk about your journey into becoming. the the borders are and some of the. events that you faced, you know, leading. up to that. And then on the back half of. the interview, I'd like to do all. current events stuff, everything that's.
going on at the border, what it was like. before, what it's like now, and then. some of the some of the measures that. you guys are implementing down there, and maybe up there, too. Um to to keep. us safe here at home and uh and take. care of the issues at hand, which seem. to be major issues. So, looking forward. to it. But let's do it. But uh everybody. starts off with an introduction here. So Tom Holman, borders are under.
President Trump's second administration, appointed to oversee the nation's border. security and interior enforcement. operations. A law enforcement veteran. with over four decades of experience, starting as a border patrol agent and. rising to become one of the most. influential officials in US immigration. policy. former acting director of US. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE, serving from January 2017 to June. 2018, where you shaped some of the most.
talked about immigration policies of the. Trump. era. Your man of the year from, Congratulations on that, from the. National Police Defense uh Foundation. and Border Hero Award from America's. Voice. And I think those both came out. last week. Yeah, last week. Congratulations. Congratulations. And um. yeah, you. know, I I waited to tell everybody that. you were coming on just because of, you.
know, who you are and all the security. and stuff. And it was funny when I. finally broke the news last week, for. whatever reason, everybody that works. for me started giving me their birth. certificates and. passports. So So I don't know what's. going on, but uh they're pretty tuned. in. So, uh, but yeah. So, couple other. things real quick. Everybody gets a. gift. I got you two gifts. The Famous Gummies. Vigilance League.
gummy bears. Made here in the USA. Legal. in all 50 states. It's just candy until. RFK outlaws it. So, but uh and then. another thing. Thank you. You're. welcome. found out you're a Catholic this morning. and uh so I want to give you one of. those. One of my really good friends, Domo, um. sells these rosaries and uh my journey.
to faith is relatively new. I grew up. Catholic and uh I'm still Thank you. Well, thank you very much. Yeah. You. know, and I just I think the Catholic. religion just there's one if there's one. thing they get right for sure, it's. protection. And uh with what you're. facing right now, I'm sure you could use. a little extra protection. So I I carry. one of those every single day. Carry one. of these. Carry one of these. What is that? St. Michaels. Love that. Love that. But well, Tom and.
the Virgin Mary on the backside. Nice. Carrie both had one covered both sides. Nice. Nice. Where'd you grow up? Small town. called West Carthage, New York. Population about 2500. What were you into growing up? Pardon. me. What were you into growing up? Strong Catholic family. I mean, mom, dad, seven. kids. Grew up in farm country. There.
there's two things you do in that little. town. either work on a farm or you work at. Fort Drum, uh an army army base up by. there. Uh or you're a logger cutting. down trees. So, it's a small community, very patriotic community. I talk about. that a lot. I mean, walking through this. village I grew up in, just about. everybody had American flag on their. front porch. It's like I talk about in. my book, it's like being in Mayberry. Everybody knew everybody, right? Um my mom and dad very strong Catholics.
and uh uh I think every mother in that. village spanked me at one time or. another. That's back in the day. The. village the village made who you were. You know it takes a village to grow a. kid and they I I give a lot of credit to. the village I grew up in. And I'm. serious. I think every mother in that. village gave me a spanking one time or. another. But that was okay back then. They just call your mom and say, "Hey, I. had a give Tom a spanking." But, uh, very strict family. My dad was a judge, so you know, strict up strict.
upbringing. Uh, but, uh, it was a very. patriotic little town. We're only about. 6 milesi outside of Fort Drum. So, it's. I grew up in a in an era where police. were highly respected and um, people. love the country. I mean, I literally. American flags everywhere. Uh, it was it. was a great a great childhood and and it. it spooks me sometimes. Actually has. such a great childhood. I'm afraid that.
I could not give my children the same. childhood I had. Yeah. Where you go, you. wake up Saturday morning, ride your bike. around the village, gathering up buddies. to have a baseball game, and you play. baseball all day, but the mill whistle. goes off at noon. You knew you had to go. home at lunch, go back, play ball. Then. at 5:00 the mill whistle goes off again. Means you got to go home and have. dinner. But it was a great childhood. Yeah. You don't you don't hear too much. of that anymore these days. You know. that's that's very similar to where I.
grew up. But um do you have any brothers. and sisters? Yeah. I there's five. there's seven of us. Seven of you guys. I got uh one brother and five sisters. Damn. Very strong. The thing is my what. I what I'm proud about my family is just. about everybody went to you know some. sort of public service. right career fireman just retired a. couple years. ago. All my sisters but one were a. nurse. So you know they all they.
all felt a duty to go back and and and. serve their communities in one way or. the other. My dad you know he ended as a. a judge but he was a cop before then. my. grandfather's cops. I always knew I. already knew I always knew I was going. to be some sort of cop. It's what I. wanted forever. So, I've lived my dream. I mean, I was fishing with my brother. last year. And he looked at me, made a comment. He. says, "Uh, you ever think about the ride you.
had?" This before Trump won the. election. I was coming back. Said, "What. do you mean?" He goes, "You went from. West Carthage to the West Wing. That's. hell of a ride." And it was. It shows It. shows what a great country this is. Yeah. Yeah. How early did you know you. wanted to get into law enforcement. It's kindergarten, first grade. Kindergarten. I always knew this in this. small town I grew up in. We had a police. department and next the west card is.
called Carthage, bigger town police. department. And my dad would know I. remember my dad coming home, wore the. uniform and I knew these other. protecting people. Um then when became a. judge as a when I was still a child, middle of the night, state troopers. knocking at the door, bringing somebody. to get arraigned in the middle of the. night. I I was cops surrounded by cops. all the time. So uh I knew I was going. to be a police officer and I did become. police officer straight out of college. before I joined the border patrol. But I.
knew I had no doubt in my mind there's. one thing I wanted to do and that's be a. law enforcement officer. Why did. you where did you become a police. officer? West Carthage. West Carthage. You stayed at home. I served just like. my dad and grandfather. We served the. local community. Again, the local. community, you know, is I grew up, they. raised me, right? Matter of fact, when I. became the ICE director under President. Trump, I remember I was in the office.
first day. My public affairs officer. Barbara Gonzalez walks in. first day on. the job. So, okay, you got ABC, NBC, you. got Fox News, you got Washington, uh, Washington Post, you got New York Times. She's trying to schedule all these first. day interviews. I looked at her, says Watertown Daily Times and. WWNYTV. She looked at me, says, "What. are these?" So, my hometown newspaper, hometown television station. She looked. at me, she goes, "Mr. Trump, with all.
due respect, you got nally syndicated.". I don't. care. My hometown gets first. They raise. me. I owe them. They get the first. interview. So the next day we got in the. plane, flew to Watertown, which is the. biggest town where I grew up. I did. Watertown Daily Times. I did WWNYTV. Oh. man, that is cool. That is awesome. I'll. bet they appreciated that. They did. But I really love my hometown.
where I grew up. Matter of fact, I I. recently bought a lake house up there. I'm going to retire there someday. I was. born there. I was raised there. Went to. college there. Went a police officer. there. I'm going to die there someday. Man, that is really cool. That is really. cool. What What got you to switch from. local law enforcement in Carthage to. Border Patrol? I was with a couple police officers. fishing up on the St. launch.
river that device can United States. great fishing uh we're at Alexander Bay. fishing now I saw Bore Patrol around. didn't quite know what they did but. while we're fishing we're at we come in. the boat we're at the dock having a few. beers. uh the B patrol boat come pulling. in we just start. talking you know pretty soon he knew. we're all cops and you know of course. he's wearing a uniform his board of. relations. We started talking about our.
job, his. job, and uh his job sound really. interesting. He looked at me, he says, "We're giving the test in 4 weeks. Watertown post office. Y'all go on there. and take. it." So I did. 6 months later, I get a. phone call. Go for. interview. So my dream was there's a war. patrol station there in Welssley Island. right on in the St. Lawrence River in. the shipping channel. Beautiful place. Well, if I get in to the Bor Patrol, I. can come back up here and work at that.
Welsley Island and be a Borg patrol. agent right where I grew up. So, I got. in Bor Patrol. But after a few years on. the southwest border, there's so much. action. You know, you eat it up. And I. knew the northern border was pretty much. vacation paradise. I just didn't I never. applied to go back up north because it. was just it was a lot of actions on the. southern border. saw a lot of terrible. things but also was very rewarding.
Saved a lot of lives. So we so I decided. to stay on southern border until became. a special agent. What What is What year. is this? 1984. 1984. This when I joined the. border patrol. Wow. Lots of action going on there all. the way back then. Oh yeah. I mean San. Diego. sector. 1500 nights come through San. Diego sector. They used to gather up on. the soccer fields. just east of.
Tijana. Hundreds and hundreds would. gather. Then when the sun went down, they just ran north. I mean, it's. actually like a movie. You just grab. what you could. I was in Campo, smaller. station, but as a GS5 board, I tried to. get all the overtime I could get. So, I. go down and work the overtime on the. weekends or whatever days I had off to. work, you know, the soccer field or work. the checkpoints. But uh illegal grace. was and there's very few morbal agents. So you were overwhelmed every night down. there. Damn. How long did you do that?
Four years. Then became a special agent, criminal investigator. What is the. difference between a border patrol agent. and a special agent? It's like a police. department. They got you uniform. division on patrol. You got the. specialist and more the investigators. So you investigate, you know, conspiracies. to investigate alien. smuggling and drug smuggling and you. know and trafficking um illicit. trafficking of people and goods. So I. left the uniform division uniform.
division became a a criminal. investigator special agent. So I went. from Cample California was a small. station. When I got to Cample as a board. patrol agent I think I was like number. 34 now it's got 300 people there. So I. went from there and I became a special. agent in Phoenix Arizona in 1988. What kind of stuff were you. investigating? Mostly immigration related alien. smuggling. I was in I spent most of my. time alien smuggling unit. So we're. investigating you know criminal cartels. who smuggle people and smuggle drugs. So.
that I spent most of my career doing. that. But you know you do immigration. fraud. People are selling fraudulent. green cards and birth certificates and. work site enforcement. Correct. Work. site enforcement came around 1986 87. Did a lot of work site enforcement. and. he went to, you know, companies, large. factories and arrested illegal aliens. But I spent most of my time in Phoenix. in anti-muggling unit. So we're mostly. working, you know, the the the smuggling. groups coming from Mexico up to United. States, Mexico and South America.
Damn. What. are And you stayed there for quite a. while. Correct. Stayed in Phoenix for 10. years. I climbed the ladder, you know, I. was an agent, became a supervisory. special agent, then deputy ADDI, assistant district director for. investigations. Then from there, I went. to San Antonio, became the head of that. office, the ADDI, which equals a sack, special agent charge. They had different. names back then. But yeah, I I was.
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So I uh out of all my achievements, that's most that's my most proudest. achievement. I became ice director uh. through the ranks from the bottom to the. top. And what I like about that is the. 20,000 men and women that work for me. I. never asked them to do anything that I. do myself because I was one of them. So. that's I'm very proud of that. Well, I. know. I mean, just, you.
know, I got friends everywhere and I I. can just, you know, cuz of my background. and your. people have a tremendous amount of. respect for you and uh that's just. really good to see. You don't you don't. see that that amount of respect very. often within especially within. government. And uh so I just I just want. to applaud you for that. But I mean, well, look, I I I was one of them. And I. think one of my life's.
lessons my dad taught me is never forget. where you came. from. So when I was ICE director, I. don't care if you're GS5, you're an SCS. I go on a cafeteria and eat with. whoever. Gray didn't mean anything. And. I never forgot where I came from. And. actually when I retired the first time, my message to the troops when I left was. I may be retiring from this position, but I'm always going to have your six. because of men and women in board. patrol, men of.
ice. What great American patriots they. are. So uh and I'm back. again. Don't forget where I come from. I. don't want anybody carrying my bag. I. show up airport everybody wants to be. you. know the directors or the the borders. are in make sure we take care of them I. carry my own bag I'm happy staying at. Hampton in I fly coach I'm just a small. town kid from Carthage New York so uh. never forget where you came from.
probably the biggest life lesson I've. ever learned from my dad my dad who was. a war hero. himself respected that man more than. anybody in the world your dad was a war. hero World War II, 11th Airborne. Wow. Wow. True story. So he, you know, couple. bronze stars, purple hearts to and. um never knew. it. Never knew it till he got really. sick. He had to go to assist living all.
these medals. He didn't never want to. talk about them. So I built got him put. in the shadow. box and uh when he was when he when he. was doing his will, you know, all these. kids, what are you on? What are you on? I just want one thing. I want the shadow. box cuz you never talked about. it. And that's what I want. I got it. It's. hanging in my office right now. And one. day I was hanging in my office and I was. ICE director and John Kelly who was a.
secretary of homeland security came in. that day right away keyed on that shadow. box. He goes, "They're not. yours." No. So when he walked up to him, he goes, I said, "They're my dad. My dad. never displayed them. My dad never. talked about it, but I know they're. pretty. impressive to get, you know, bronze star. in World War II." He says, "Yes, it. was." He goes, "You know, these all. mean?" I said, "No, I never." So there's. a picture his his photographer was with. him and they took a picture of John. Kellyy's walking through each of these.
metals. I remember the one there's a. rifle with a leaf around. He goes, "No, that means means your dad was in. gunfire." Didn't hear it from a distance. he was involved. And so he walked me. through all these things. And he says, "Do you know how he earned these?" I. said, "No." You still don't know. No, I. don't. Wow. I read I read a few things. and when he came home from the war, there was a parade for him. So they talk. about how he was wounded in New Guinea. Uh the second time he got wounded, it.
was bad enough they sent him home. But. uh John Kelly offered me, he said, "Look, I'll find out for you. I I'll. I'll if your permission I can grab his. records." Well, then he came back said. they're destroyed in a fire in Kansas, Kansas City or something. All his. records were destroyed. Um so he. couldn't get his hands on them. So my. dad never talked about it. Wow. Different generation, man. Wow. What. were But you've been involved in a lot.
of operations. Mhm. What are some of the. ones that stick out to you over your. career? There's a couple things I've been. involved in. that probably created the Tom Hman you. see today. Um, people always ask me, I. get this question a lot. Why are you. always. angry? Why are you always mad? Not so. much now, but the last four years,
right? Cuz I wake up every day pissed. off under the B administration because. we handed that administration the most. secure border in my lifetime. I've been. doing this since. 1984. And they unsecured on purpose. And. I knew when they unsecured it, more. people would. die. More women and children be sexually. assaulted by the. cartels. Not only would more illegal. aliens die, but more Americans are going. to die from drugs coming across the open. border. I just woke up today. Can't.
believe they unsecured the border on. purpose for four years. I'm pissed off. And there is lots of videos of me. yelling at members of Congress, you. know, and I I I was worked for Fox News, you know, for the last few years. I I. lose my temper at Fox 2 sometimes. because of what I've seen through my. career. The thing that probably when I. first joined the Bord Patrol, I wasn't a. Bor Patrol a month and I'm on patrol. near Takati on a back row on four drive. sign cutting and I see this guy walking.
down this dirt. road. It was a illegal alien drunk. He. just happened to get he lived in Takati. and somehow got across the line just. hanging out and he's carrying something. What the What's he carrying? Was. baseball bat? What is it? So I pull him. He was carrying a human leg. He was. carrying a human a human leg that he. found. It was just a bone that he found. on his journey wherever. So of course, you know, I'm boring, so I'll take him. to Cussy. But I remember he was very.
intoxicated and um called the local. sheriff and they ran the investigation. But I was in a month and I'm I'm I'm. coming from upstate New York and all of. a sudden to get put on the southern. border and just see some of the things. you saw. It was like it was eye opening. Some It wasn't rare to find a dead body. of of a illegal alien that was making. the journey and died making that journey. cuz the smuggers don't care. If you get. sick, they're not calling 911 because. that alien means nothing to him now.
He's not going to get paid to get him to. his final destination. They just leave. him there to. die. I don't I can't tell you how many. uh aliens we find near death's door. making that journey and we actually. we're able to get them helping to save. them. But uh the thing that really. really affected me was two things. Number one, uh talking to a little girl about 9. years old that was part of a smuggling. group who was raped multiple times by.
members of the criminal cartel. nine years old. Yeah. And let me tell. you, son, as tough as a guy you want to. be, when when you sit down, you get on. your knees, you talk to this little girl. and and I and everything. innocent, pure have been has been ripped from. her where you can tell that she has no. faith in humanity. I mean, this little. girl's world was destroyed. She's never.
going to be the same. I don't care how. much counseling she gets, right? And I'm. a father. And you think, you. know, how could someone do that to such. an innocent little. girl? And it really changes who you are. I mean, it's just like, you know, I. can't believe there's a human being out. there that would would would would do. that to little girl. The members of. cartels are animals. They don't care. about these people. These people are. commodity. And there's been several.
instances where, you know, women and. children that I've been involved with. through an investigation were sex. assaulted by the cartels, you know, demanded as part of crossing them either. across across the desert or over the. river or just take it just just just. rape them for the hell of it. I mean, um, I've seen rape trees, you know, where these smugglers would just hang. panties up in a tree as a a trophy. And. um well, the 9-year-old girl shook me.
Um cuz then you realize just how. inhumane these these people. are. The thing that probably shaped me. the most though was back in I think it's. 2003, I was in Dallas, Texas, uh giving a speech to the International. Association of Chiefs of Police. We just. became ICE less than a year earlier. They took customs and immigration made. ice. So I was there to explain this new. agency and how we can work together and.
collaborate. I remember getting a. emergency phone call from Washington DC. John Morton who was the director at the. time but was actually his deputy uh was. a do adultery called me and says, "Hey, you're in Dallas. You need to get down. to Victoria, Texas right away. There's a. tragedy down there." And we want to go. down there and take over the. investigation cuz they knew at the time. it was a sign headquarters. They knew I. spent most of my career as I said in. alien smuggling and trafficking cases. So I so they flew me down there in air.
marine um plane and I landed um down at. the crime scene. When I got there the. sheriff and I think it was a Texas. Ranger walking through the crime scene. Okay said, "Okay, it's yours." So I. remember walking up to there's a tractor. trailer and 19. people baked to death in back that. tractor trailer. 19 people baked to. death. baked baked. He. just they're in a steel box, tractor. trailer, steel box, black, no air in the.
middle of summer. And uh so I get to the. crime scene and I walk the crime scene. right away. There there's a just a. trailer there. The the truck's gone. He. unhooked it and he left the driver. So I. walk up to the crime scene and all I. have is a suit. I'm wearing a suit. I. was giving a a speech. I left. I didn't. get back to hotel and get my stuff. I. went straight to the scene. So, I get. there and I walk up to this tractor. trailer. Right away, I see several.
bodies on the ground because when those. doors finally opened up, the people were. such a rush to get air that they knocked. some dead bodies out of the truck onto. the ground. So, I noticed some dead. bodies on the ground there. Then, I got. to the back of the tractor trailer and. uh I looked in the back of the tractor. trailer. I just. see dead people, most of them in their. underwear because they were trying to. get some relief from the the searing. heat. And right away, soon as I looked. at, I keyed on a little boy and he was.
partially covered up by who later found. out was his father who was protecting. him. And I keyed in on him and he was. wearing the same color. underwear that my little boy had. same. under. her. Um, and I had a 5-year-old son at. the time, so right away I keyed in on.
him. So, we had. um so I took over the investigation and. used the term Houston flew in and the. helicopter came to the crime scene. When. I was going when I was processing the. crime scene, we had a guy taking. pictures and I was telling them to take. know take all these pictures what I. needed. But I told him that we would we. would do the boy. last and mainly because I couldn't.
handle it at the. time. So we process the crime scene and. I testified to this and I got angry one. testimony where someone claimed I didn't. care about dying children. He should. have worn my shoes. cuz I've seen a lot. of dying children, dead children in my. career. So, um, when we got to the child, I I kn. down beside him, I put my hand on him. and I said a prayer because I knew based. on the years I've done alien smug. investigations what a horrible, horrible.
death this child went through. He baked. the death. And um, after we crime scene. photos, we of course the investigation. I'm there on the ground. They had to fly. clothes in cuz again I came up with with. clothes on my back. But uh through the. investigation we found out the little. boy is the first one to die. And the. witnesses there that survived said that. little boy begged his. father not to let him. die. Little boy knew he was dying.
Begged his father, "Please don't let me. die. I want to see mom again. I want to. see my mommy.". And it when you hear the testimony from. the the surviving witnesses, it just. tore you up how this child no 5-year-old. should have to beg for his life. No. 5-year-olds to be baking to death in a. black box that got up 170 175 degrees. they said. and. um he was the first one to die and his. father died on top of him because some.
of the witnesses were saying that some. of the members of of the of the the. group back there talked about tearing. the boy apart and and putting him out. through the there's brake lights they. busted out try to get some air and there. was there's some talk about maybe we put. parts of the boy out there draw. attention to our problem that never got. fully vetted because some witnesses said. didn't happen but his father did guy on. top of his child and it just you know. hovering him and you think about I just.
don't think about rip this boy. apart testimony from a couple of them. people now a couple people said that. wasn't true but there's a re the father. was over the top of him like this. um we asked. why um anyway um Jaw was first one to. die then so many people were starting to. die and there's so many people in back. the tractor They're dying standing up. and trying to find a place to fall. And. like I said, we got the crime scene, most of their underwear, trying to get.
some relief from the heat. So through that investigation, the first. couple weeks, I'm listening to his. testimony. And I you just don't I just. don't think about, okay, that child. died. I'm thinking about how he died. What his last two hours was like, what. was his last hour. like? His father couldn't help him. The. father got put him in that position. begging his father, "Help me." The. father can't. They're in a steel box. Locked in a steel. box. No air no air in. there. The the air compressor was turned.
off. And the information was was it was. turned off because he wanted to draw. attention to the truck cuz the truck's. empty going through a a. checkpoint. If air conditioning on, that. means you got something back there. So. there's a lot lot of testimony from a. lot of different witnesses saying a lot. of different things, but the way that. child died and and I didn't sleep for a. week down there. I'm a pretty tough guy, but that that affected me cuz I had a. 5-year-old son at the time. You started.
thinking about why is my son lucky and. that child wasn't? Why is my son born in. the greatest nation on earth and this. child. wasn't? And so and and I've been honest about. that after we put all 14 of those people. in jail. Anybody involved, they're in. prison. And we shut the investigation. down pretty quick. Put them put a lot of. people in prison. And after the. investigation was done, I had to go get. help cuz I couldn't sleep.
Um just the image of this little boy, how he suffered. and I had a son's same. age. That that affected me more than. anything because I realized that didn't. have to happen. If we had a secure. border, that little child wouldn't have. died. And that's why for the last four. years, that's one of the reasons I wake. up everybody, every pissed off. I knew. when they open this border up, more kids. are going to die. More women and.
children will get sexually. assaulted. More Americans are going to. die from fentanyl and other drugs come. across that border. Sex trafficking is. going to increase. 10fold. So I woke up every day for four. years on Biden, pissed off. And I. actually did. I woke up just mad that. Joe Biden's the first president in the. history of this nation who came into. office and unsecured a border on. purpose. There wasn't mismanagement. It wasn't. incompetence. He knew exactly what he. was doing. I I wrote an.
op-ed foxwe.com about six months before. the election. I said, "If Joe Biden. becomes president, we lose the border. just based on what he was saying. Put a. moratorum on deportation. Going to end. ICE detention. I'm going to ward. amnesty. I'm going to ward DACA. I'm. going to give free healthcare to illegal. aliens." You make that type of promise. to entire world, they're going to come. to the greatest nation on earth. So I. knew what's going to happen and I knew. every morning I woke up and for four. years I go out give speeches and I tell.
people why I be be know 7 8:00 at night. I have great dinner banquet and I give. him the speech and I told everybody in. the room great night isn't it? Let me. tell you about the border. Tonight, while we're sitting here eating this. meal, a women are being. raped as part of defeat across that. border and a child's going to die. tonight, whether at the hands of the. cartel or drown the river. I've been on. the river and watched moral agents give. CPR to. babies. Last year, I made a trip down to.
Brooks. County for a ride along this before. President Trump is back in office. Where's Brooks County? in. Texas, Sheriff Benny. Martinez. I sat in his office. He has. like six. deputies. He told me every deputy is. doing immigration work 24/7. They're not. even deputies. They're out there looking. for dead bodies. At the time, he had. over 100 dead bodies found in this. county of aliens that died in Me just. died. So, his his troopers, I mean, his.
deputies were out there every day. finding dead bodies. I was with him for. four hours. We found. two. Then talked to a doctor down. there who told me this story. Now I. didn't see it. I've just told the. story. Mother and father and a child, a. 22month-old little girl from an African. nation was crossing the border coming. across river.
smugglers, the animals they are, they. bring them across on the boat. Boratrol. starts approaching them. So what do the. smugglers do? They throw their family in. the. water. Can't swim cuz they know Boruto. is going to go rescue this family and. they can get. away. So Boruto ran, rescued him. They thought. they rescued him, but the little girl. later died at the hospital. And the doctor shared with. me that oh man the little girl to her.
postmortem was. was. assaulted in every little opening of her. body as as required by one. six cartel members. All these things I see and hear about. I. I know that story came to me. I didn't. see it, but that story came to me. But. it doesn't surprise me because of.
because the stuff 9-year-old girl I. talked about the tractor trailer. The. guy the driver of that tractor trailer. knew these people couldn't breathe. They. knew there weren't water back there. And. what did he do? He just he just unhooked. the trailer and left because they were. dying. And through testimony, he was. calling the smugger, complaining they're. tearing his truck apart because they. tore the lights out to try to get air in. there. These people are. ruthless. So for four years, I wake up. pissed off. I knew this stuff was going.
to fire up. again at at a record pace. And it did. You look at the numbers like 4,000. aliens have died making the journey on. Joe Biden. Quarter mill quarter million. Americans died from fentanyl from across. open border under Biden. Sex trafficking. of women and children skyrocketed. number of people on the terrorist watch. list. Record historic numbers came. across that border. They arrested 400 of. them. You got 2.2 million gotaways. How. many of them came from a country. sponsoring terror? How many of them were.
sex trafficking women and children? How. many of them were carrying fentanyl? So. for four years I was I was waking up. every day pissed off. Damn. Did you say 22 months? 22 months old. And this is pretty common. One's too. many. Well, it didn't surprise me a bit. It turned your. stomach. I mean, this this this other.
doctor we visited down there, he has he. has, you know, big old ranch. He finds. dead bodies all the time. He found a a young. female that was ever left of her body. Her panties were down on her ankles. Her. ankles her ankle her ankle was. broken. What he says he's he seen before. is after she's younger got raped. They. break her ankle so she can't go seek. help. She dies.
there. He had a picture of a 12-year-old. little boy. They went over a fence at. his property. this little boy obviously. didn't make and he died right there at. the fence line. He's kind of crawled up. next to the. fence. I mean, I've seen a lot of death, but I've also talked to a lot of people. who who took pictures of dead bodies on. the property. Um, you know, I've done uh. alien smoking investigations for a long. time. I' I've heard so much testimony. from people that victimize. I mean,
operation, you know, Ice Storm, Phoenix, Arizona. After I finished that Victoria. operation with 14 islands, then they. sent me to Phoenix, Arizona to run. Operation Ice Storm, where you got. smuggling groups ripping each other off. cuz when you get a load of 25 people, they're worth a lot of money. So, you. have alien smug groups doing rips of. each other. They find out where the load. house is. They go armed. They take this. group. There there was a shootout on the. highway down there because one group was. stole another group's load of.
people. Bodies are piling up. Maricopa. County. Aliens couldn't pay their. smuggling fees. They torch them. They. call relatives up and say, "You ow. $10,000." Well, no, we made we we said. it was 5,000. Well, now it's 10. Either. pay it or we'll kill him. And they. would. Those relatives they call up on. the phone. They tortured the guy where a. relative listened. Jeez. One brave lady came. She actually. contacted ICE and said they're holding I. think it was her brother demanding all.
this money. I can't afford a pan. They. said they're going to kill him. And. luckily we did what we do with phones. They will go to that place. And that guy. was hog tied. Uh hands and feet behind. him with duct tape. His whole head and. face were duct tape except a hole poked. in a smile so he can breathe. That's the way we found. them. So these cartels are ruthless. So. for four years, I woke up. I knew that I. knew that this was going to happen every. day now. And because this administration.
chose to open that border up, why do you think they opened the border. up? I get asked that all the time. You. know, I think I think there's some. people that thought just don't believe. in borders. They think we should have. open borders, but I actually think they. saw future political. benefit. Obviously, [Music]. um because when they when President. Biden signed over 90 executive orders. destroying everything that President. Trump did in Trump 45, he also. overturned the Trump census rule, which.
means the millions of people they. released in United States, they'll be. counting the next census, most of you. know sanctuary cities, which means what? When they proportionate seats in House. means more seats in house with Dempsee. and also they think they're future. Democratic voters. Because here's here here's the long game. they're playing. No one talks about. this. Here's the long game they're. playing. They're playing the long game. They're smart at it. Overwhelm the. system. Let's bring 10.5 million. encounters to the. border. Release them without proper.
vetting because all they care about is. the optics. If there's no. overcrowding, there's nothing to see. If. there's no overcrowding, we can say the. border is secure, which they did. Bord. Patrol agents were ordered process. quickly, release quickly because if. there's no overcrowding, there's nothing. to see here. So, of course, they weren't. vetted properly. Didn't have time to vet. them. properly. Why did they release millions. of people into the United States rather.
than put putting them in an empty ice. bed, an ice bed owned by ICE, contracted. by ICE at $127 a night? Why did they not. fill that bed? But they'd rather release. them to an NGO, get put in a hotel room. at 500 bucks a. night, get three free meals a day, get. free medical. care, and get not only that, they get. flown to the city, their choice. They. say where they want to go. We flew them.
there by administration. Put them in a. hotel room, 500 bucks a night, give them. three meals a day, free medical. care. Why did they do that? instead of. putting them in the ICE facility at $127. a night because they knew exactly what. they're doing. They know if they go into. ICE detention, they get a hearing within. 40. days. Based on real data from. immigration court, nearly nine out of 10. people who claim asylum will get ordered. removed because they don't qualify for. asylum. They get removed. That's not.
what they wanted. Overwhelm the system. because once you're out of the system, you got the detained document. Immigration court prioritizes the. detained docket, but once you release. them, now they're on the non-detained. docket. Sitt in the hotel room. Hearings. going to take three, five, seven years, depending on what location you're on. If. you, if you want to exhaust all your. appeals, maybe nine. years. They overwhelm the system because. they know it's going to take years to. get these people through the process. And what happens then? They're hoping.
for a Democratic administration. Now, you can warrant amnesty. They're playing. the long game. They overwhelmed the. system on purpose. They did not detain. him on purpose. I mean, not only that, I mean, I don't. know how true this is. I don't really. believe anything in the media these. days, but I mean, I read something maybe. a year ago or so about the BCP-1, I. think it's called the BCP-1 app, where. they could go on, claim asylum, and then. the USG will send a plane down to get.
them and fly them into the country. Is. is that true? Was that happening? What. the Biden administration did towards the. end, they knew that immigration was a. big issue on the election, right? So, they tried to claim that border numbers. are way down. Boy, did we fix this. problem. It's down 70%. No, it wasn't. They created two programs out of thin. air, called them legal pathways. They. weren't legal pathways. The border. numbers didn't really go down. They went. down maybe 17%. if you count all the. programs they created. So what they did.
was okay, we got millions of people. coming across the border illegally. So. let's create the CBP1 app. That same. illegal alien population can simply go. to an app, make an appointment, come to. a port of entry. They're going to call. that illegal entry. Now, same population. of illegal, they just bring them through. the port of entry. Oh, this is a legal. pathway. Thousands of people come to the. port of entry. Then they created the. CHNB. Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela. If you're from those four countries, we're going to fly you straight into our. airports. You don't have to go to the.
border. We'll fly you straight into our. major airports in United. States. 30,000 a month of those. 30,000. a month. Is this the that I saw at. the I would I would be at the airport, you know, traveling, going wherever. And. I would see these people get rushed up. to the front of the line and there were. always some type of That's what that was. most likely. So they created a CHNV, they created a CBP1 app, bringing. thousands of people what they call legal.
pathways. So if you add what they did. through the CHNV and the CBP1 app plus. what the board still catching, the. border numbers ain't going on that. much. They lied to the American people. They kept saying the border secure. Look. at the numbers down. You just created. two buckets that you call legal. pathways. The border numbers aren't. down. So they lied to the American. people over. They lied about the secure. border. They lied that it's going to. take congressional action to fix the. border. It only took a new. president. And so again, I wake up every.
day four years pissed. off. I think I I think the first morning. I woke up not pissed off was the the. night the morning after election. I was I was in Florida down at the event. and. uh Mara Lago when the when when the. election came in and that next morning I. woke up and I said all right things are. about to change lives are about to be ch. uh saved. So that that's that's probably. the first day I woke up knowing that.
things are going to change. But for four. years it just I knew cuz all my time I. spent on that border I knew what was. happening every night. I knew when I. laid my head in that pillow every night, a child was going to die. Women are. being. raped. Cartels are moving record amounts. of drugs in this. country. Sex trafficking is going to. skyrocket. And it did every night. I I. later knew it was. happening. Maybe it's, you know, all the.
years I spent down there, but I take. that personal because of the tragedies. I've seen, I don't want to see stuff. ever happen again. Damn. How did you get. approached to state borders are? Um, let me go. The first time I worked. with President Trump. True. story. I was authoring command uh. executive associate director for. enforcement mobile operations. In the.
time I spent there, we. removed I don't. know over a million illegal aliens. when. I was there in that position for three. years. Um, but after eight years of Barack. Obama, it was Hillary Clinton versus. President Trump. I was convinced. Hillary's going to win. Convinced. I. think most America was cuz he was so far. behind the polls. So before election, I. announced my retirement. So I've had it. after 8 years Obama. I'm not expecting.
four year. I'm not going to do it. So I. got I signed a contract with this. company that paid me three times as much. as I made for ice dragon, you know, ice. guy. So I signed a contract to announce. my retirement. I gave 120 days. I will. leave in January right after, you know, inauguration. Well, my retirement party. anyway back up. So the election. happened. So next morning I wake up. I. remember wife saying Trump won.
Now, what are you going to. do? Well, I already announced my. retirement. I already signed this. contract. So, I said, I got to go. I. already got these things lined up. So, at my retirement. party, a lot of people show up. Saddest. day of my life, January 2017, cuz after. over three decades doing the job, I was. that was that was my last day. And when. you carry a badge and gun, you do this. job for so long becomes a big part of. who you are. And I knew that day I was. going to leave that building and I'm Tom.
homeless civilian for the first time in. 34. years. So at the end of this at the end. of the retirement ceremony I was shaking. hands with my wife and I. get I got emergency phone call from John. Kelly who was assistant was a secretary. of homeland. security. So I took the phone call John. Kelly and he says Tom I know this is bad. timing by the. president the president like your. president not like you're staying right. the agency which is going to be a.
two-step. promotion. I said sir it's bad timing I. just retired. He goes no you didn't. Paperwork's on my desk hasn't been. signed. So I said well sir all due. respect my family's been through an. awful lot. Multiple moves death threats. protests on my home. I says, "I got to. talk to my family about this. Plus, I. signed a contract with this company. I. don't know my legal obligations are on. that. This is a Friday." I said, "Can I. have till. Monday.
to no think about this?" He goes, "Certainly." I remember what he said. before I hung up. He goes, "Let me leave. you with this thought, Tom. And I. remember this word for it." He goes, "Tom, the president of the United States. is asking you, a career law enforcement. officer, to serve your country a little. bit longer. He needs your help, Tom. I'll call you Monday. 600. So on the way home, my wife asked me, "What was this phone call about?" I told. her, she looks at me, she goes, "Hell. no, not doing it. We've been through too.
much." I said, "But the president of the. United States." So I don't care. Been. through too much. So after a weekend of. fighting, Sunday night, we were laying. in bed. She asked, "What are you going. to do?" I said, "What do you think I'm. going to do?" She goes, "You're going to. do that, aren't aren't you?" of course. president of United States. She asked me. to help. I won't stay and you know God. love her. She said okay I'll support you. on it. So next day he called me up and. said what say you? I said let's do. it. So the next day I show up the ICE.
office to the amazement of hundreds of. people who gave me great gifts Friday. Thought I was leaving. The first people. I ran into in my office were ethics. attorneys who had a list of all the. gifts I got. said, "You got to return. all these gifts cuz these are all the. employees now." Again, I remember. saying, "There's a $500 gift certificate. your wife got. We need that back." I. said, "Look, guys, she's already. pissed." I said, "Let me write you a. check for $500. I'm not going to ask for. the gift back." So, they took all the. gifts back, which is cool. And the next. day, I'm on Air Force One, the.
president. It's the first time I ever. met the man. Wow. It's March. I asked. him, "What's what's my margin?" He says, "Do your job that you haven't been able. to do for the last four years. Now, he. wants you to do it. go enforce. law. So, fast forward a second. time, I'm actually out to dinner with my. wife and my cell phone sitting on the. table and we were eating. All of a. sudden, phone goes off and she called it. right away. POTUS came up, call her ID. She goes,
"Oh my. god." Goes, "What's he want?". So I excused myself, went outside and. President Trump, he made it, you know, he's asked me to come. back. Said. done back fast. Done. I woke up four. years pissed off. He mentioned that. you've been you've been bitching about. it for four years. Want to come back fix. it? Damn right I do. So I took it, came.
back and sat down. I says, did you? Yeah. She goes, "Good, cuz you've been pissed off every. day. If you don't go back, you're going. to be pissed off next four years. You go. back and fix it." So, and God bless you. Hell of a pay cut. But, uh, I wake up every day like a kid in. the candy store. cuz I think President Trump's the. greatest president of my lifetime. as a.
border guy, an immigration guy, his. Trump 45 unprecedented success, the most. secure border we ever had in my. lifetime. Now the numbers even better. As we're talking right now, we got the. most secure border in the history of. this nation. President Trump did in. seven weeks what Joe Biden couldn't and. wouldn't do in four years. Wow. And I. got a great team I work with every day. You know, I know you mentioned earlier I. got the man of the year award and border. hero award, but you need to know at both.
of those acceptance, I I accept it in. the honor of President Trump. He should. be the man of the year cuz without him, we couldn't be doing what we're doing. right now on the border. And I also took. it in honor of men and women of Border. Patrol and ICE who strap a gun to a hip. every day, defend that border, hang out, the resting, the worst of the worst. I'm. just a guy at the White House coming up. with strategies and policies and and and. putting out way I think things should be. done. It's the men and women carrying a. badge and gun to deserve that award. So.
I took it in their honor. And President. Trump, I mean again the game. changer. I work with a team, you know, Steve Miller, uh the architect. Steve. Miller is probably the most brilliant. man I ever met. Like I'm loving the guy. smarter now. I work with a team and look. at look who look who President Trump. brought in because there's all of. government on the border. All of. government we got DoD, got DOJ, right? You got you got Pete Hexiff, you got Pam. Bondi, you got Cash Pat.
Mattel, you got Secretary. Norm, you bring that weight onto this. issue and that's why the success is the. way it is cuz you got one hell of a. team. That's the dream team, man. You. guys locked it down quick from my. understanding. And in interior arrest, you know, we've arrested about three. times more criminals in a few months. than Joe Biden did in a year. But people. always ask me if I'm happy with the. numbers. I'm not happy. I'm I'm happy. that we got more, hell of a lot more.
than Biden did. But we need to get much. more. A lot more. Cuz we know there's. like 700,000 illegal aliens with. criminal convictions or criminal charges. walking the streets of this country. We. got to get them. So we got a lot more. work to do. doing good, but it's not. good enough yet. We'll get into all. that. I want to. get I want to talk about some of the. stuff that has been coming through the. border and and how that happens and the. the motivation behind it and all the. stuff that the cartels are in and then. which is more of your your I think it's.
more of your previous life when you were. when you were a special agent. I mean, so when you talk. about these little girls getting raped. coming across and and little boys dying. and they're getting locked in these. these conx boxes with no air in 100°ree. plus. weather. I mean, where does this all. initiate from? And what countries are. using cartels to funnel them in? Bor Joe people under Joe Biden arrested.
people from 180 different countries. That's almost every country in the. world. The whole world came to this. country because they knew you could. cross the border, get released within 24. hours, get a free plane ride to the city. of your choice, get a free hotel. room, three meals a day, free medical. care. Actually, I think it was 181. different countries. Are the cartels facilitating all of.
this? Oh, absolutely. criminal cartels. like the, you know, Eliscoco cartels, the new generation. Some some of these. cartels are in 45 countries around the. world. They're in 45 countries. Some. some of these some of these uh uh. criminal cartels. Absolutely. Uh so, you know, like the. Chinese, record number Chinese came. across, there's no way tens of thousands. of Chinese nationals left China and got. to United States without the. coordination.
a Chinese government. It doesn't happen. in Chinese organized. crime. Same with Venezuela. But when. once you get to, you know, Mexico, the. criminal cartels, they have operation, they had operational control of the. southern border. No one's crossing the. southern border of the United States. without playing paying the criminal. cartels or plaza fees at a minimum. because you you you go through their. area of operation, you either pay their. fees or they'll kill you. So they had. operational control of the southern.
border. Matter of fact, under Biden, I. talked to numerous border patrol chiefs. who would tell you that we no longer. have operational control of the southern. border. The criminal cartels do. They. decide what's coming across, when it's. coming across, where it's coming across. I thought the one chief patrol agent who. usually turned me broken arrow said, "Dude, that's pretty that's over the. top." He goes, "No, it isn't. I'm maybe. catching 10% what's coming across that. border." He goes, "I am. overwhelmed. Groups are coming across.
every day that I can't go." The 2.2. million gotaways under Joe Biden. Two. 2.2 million known gotaways. These are. people captured on video, drone traffic, censor traffic, or through foot traffic. that Bor Patrol counted that they. couldn't respond to because they're too. busy changing diapers, making baby. formula, making hospital runs, making. airport runs, dealing with that. humanitarian. crisis. 2.2 that we know about. Now. there's areas of the border like Big Ben. sector. very mountainous region you.
could 500 people go through that area a. day you wouldn't even know about it. because we didn't have the technology. there but 2.2 2 million people crossed. our southern border, weren't apprehended. because Bord Patrol was so busy dealing. with this humanitarian. crisis. Who are they? Now, I mentioned. earlier they arrested 400 people on on. the no-fly list. Terrorist watchers came. across the. border. You and I both know terrorists. are training to evade law. enforcement. So, who are these.
2.2? Why did 2.2 million people pay more. to get away? Because we already talked. about you pay two amounts of money to. the cartel. You pay one amount of money. to get to the border. You see a green. uniform, turn yourself in, claim asylum. Cartel's job ends at the border. But if. you want to get away, if you want to get. to New York without being processed or. vetted or fingerprinted, you pay a lot. more. So why did 2.2 2 million people. pay more not to get a free airline.
ticket, not to get a free hotel room, not to get free meals, not to get free. medical care, and not to get work. authorization. Why did 2.2 million. people pay more not to take advantage of. that giveaway program? Because they. don't want to be vetted. They want to be. fingerprinted. That scares the hell out. of me. It scared the hell out of. everybody. 2.2 million. Yes. How does it work? How does it. work.
if China is trying to get. people smuggled into the country? I. mean, how or or al-Qaeda or Taliban or. Al-Shabaab? There's a lot there's a. there's so many smuggling routes we. can't cover them all, right? So, you I. guess what I'm asking is how do they get. in touch with the cartels? cartels are. they got they. got their their tentacles reach into. many major nations. It's like in Mexico.
if you know Chinese they deal with. Chinese organized crime who has. connection to criminal cartels in Mexico. or Central America. Um there's so many routes that you know. some routes come through Canada not not. many but there are a few that come. through Canada. Most come through the. southern border. Mhm. Because you got. over 2,000 border there that, you know, you just can't control it all. Some come. up through the Darian Gap. Some fly into. Mexican uh Mexico City at the airport. depending, you know, a lot of Chinese. fly straight into Mexico. It depends.
where you're coming from and what cartel. you're dealing with. There's there's so. many different. routes, Colombia. I mean, there's. there's um South. America. Some some make a maritime trip. to South America, come up to the Darian. Gap. Some fly straight into. Mexico. It's just there's just so many. routes and that's one of the the. toughest job out securing the border. It's it's it's better almost play the. away game to attack the cartels down. south rather than to get to the border.
We we've done that very well. I mean. Daring Gap, thousands of people cross. the Daring Gap. Yeah. The B. administration said they're going to. shut it down. They never did. Is it shutting down now? It's not shut down with the traffic. going. south. Traffic on during daring gap is. is southbound now. So human smuggling is. a major financial component to the. cartels. Oh. yeah. That's why that's why I saw the. cartels in Mexico the last few years.
You know there's a battle going on in. Mexico. cartels of fighting one with. another because they made record amounts. of money, not only drug smuggling, but trafficking of women and children, you know, for forced labor or sex. trafficking, smuggling of aliens. They're making more money than ever. made. So, cartels started fighting each. other for control of the plaza, who owns. this plaza trying cuz there's so much. money being made. And that's one of the. things, you know, I said from the. beginning that President Trump will end. up wiping the cartels off the face of.
the earth. And that's why I think he. designated them terrorist organizations. because they've killed more Americans. than every terrorist organization in the. world combined through the drugs and you. know what the cartels have done. So now. that we designated terrorist. organizations and now that we shut down. the pipeline at a 96%. rate, we're hitting them more hurts in. the pocketbook. I think I hope I'm. wrong, but I think you going to see the. violence escalating suddenly the board.
escalation is not going to go away. They're going to try to get their. product through. Mhm. And now we got DoD. on the border along with border patrol. agents. It's I feel it's a matter of. time before there's an armed encounter. of some kind. How are they how are they. how does the sex trafficking work? That's that's just a big topic that. is what I go to sleep thinking about all. the time and I've covered it. Well, some. sex trafficking is a lot of it. You. know, you pay your smuggling fee. You. owe the smuggling group. Let's say you.
owe them. $10,000. You don't have the money. Okay. Well, you work for us when we get. northbound. There's there's various ways. to do it. That's this is one of the ways. you get northbound. Okay. Here's what. you're going to do to pay us back. Oh, you're not going to do it. Okay. Well, we know where your family is. We'll kill. your family. We'll kill you. So, a lot. more force in this the sex slavery. Of. course, children are just sold into it. They don't have a choice here in the. States. Absolutely. Absolutely. What does that.
look like? ICSE has already found. children working in in in on ranches and. in. uh in factories. um in forced labor. I mean, um we're we're attacking trafficking. really hard. The sad thing is that we're. one of the biggest customers of it in. the United States. Yeah. Either sex. trafficking or or or forced labor. trafficking. And some of the forced. labor trafficking, they're never going. to pay the fee off. When I was uh I was.
head of the office in Dallas, uh some of the Asian massage parlors. that we investigate had, you know, their. passports being kept from these women. They couldn't leave. They were locked in. facility forcing the prostitution to pay. off smuggling fees, which they'll never. pay off. So, so a lot of a lot of this the the. trafficking, forced labor and sex. trafficking, the the alien doesn't even. know what they're getting. into and they get here. They're forced.
into pay off the cartels and it's and. and like I say, these cartels are. ruthless. They know your. families. They'll threaten your. family. Um, one of the most despicable things. about losing control of the borders is. is the trafficking. issue. Um, under Joe Biden, it's estimated half. million children were trafficking in. this country, smuggled in this.
country that they released to so-called. sponsors. Sometimes it's family, many. times it's. not. Um, again, go back. the secretary of HHS, Pacera, I saw him. give a speech on stage how quick they're. releasing these people. We're releasing. these people quickly. Of course you are. because you all you cares about the. optics of no recalling. Not a problem. here. But they released them so quickly. proper vetting wasn't done. So you heard.
the media reports like 300,000 children. that the B administration couldn't. couldn't account for them. They they. called them for check-ins weren't there. when they try to contact them, couldn't. contact them. So, Trump. administration, we are actively looking. to try to find these kids. We already. found some, but already found some in. force forced labor and um but it's it's. difficult out of all things when. President Trump pardon me says I want. secure the border, run a deportation. operation, and find these.
kids. Border is pretty secure right now. Most secure we ever had. numbers are. going doing going doing pretty good on. deportation, but again I got to do more. a lot more. The kids are the toughest. part because you got trying to find. children and and it's difficult to find. children because you and I we have a. footprint. We have a digital footprint. You own a home, you own a car, you got. pay bills, you got a credit card, we can. find you, we can find. me. We kids don't have that digital. footprint. So we got to count on a. digital footprint. whatever sponsor they.
released him to. And through the. whistleblowers, HHS, many of these. sponsors weren't fingerprinted. Identification wasn't verified. They. didn't do DNA testing. So now we got to. try to find kids who release the. sponsors that don't want to be. found. Some of these sponsors have. already sold the kid off somebody. else. So this is the most out of three. things, three rails I'm involved in. This is the most difficult one. How does. it work? How do how are they selling. kids? What's that marketplace? Where is it? Is.
it online? It's you got to be part of. the inner circle. But you know lot a lot. of us through the dark. web through the internet. I mean they. even you know not only for. trafficking you get job driving a load. of ali aliens from the border on the. internet. They're using all sort of. using apps to do that. whether it's. Instagram or many of these during the. Biden administration, they're hiring. college kids and high school kids to. drive loads through an app. Social. media, uh, social media is a big tool.
used in all of. this. Um, are the end are Americans the end. consumer of this? Many times like we we've done. investigations where you know. illegal alien population. sometimes are are the customers, but a. lot of it's Americans. And it's it's sad. that this country is is a customer for. that type of activity.
Yeah. I remember when I was. um 20 years ago, I was teaching a human. trafficking course at the FBI academy. over in uh. Budapest, teaching the eur Eastern. European countries, you know, how to. look at human trafficking. So I'm giving. this course and and and one of the. members in the. audience a border. guard there's like several languages. being spoken what we had interpreters in. there he raises his hand asked me a.
question and it's true story he says how. come you're here teaching about human. trafficking when the United States is. the biggest consumer of. it if you weren't the biggest consumer. you wouldn't need to be here training. us. man. Well, Tom, let's take a quick. break. Come back. I want to get into. some terrorism. stuff. Did you know Fast Growing Trees.
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big topic that we cover here is. terrorism and u just from my former. background and and we've had uh former. CIA targeter Sarah Adams come on here to. talk a lot. about who's here. She says there's at. least a thousand different terrorists uh. that have infiltrated the border. I was. just wondering what kind of insight do. you have on that? Well, we really don't. know. I mean, the intelligence community.
has one number. Again, I go back to over. two million gotaways under Joe. Biden. Two million. people crossed the border and weren't. vetted, weren't fingerprinted. And like. I said earlier, criminal cartels in. Mexico control the border. You don't. cross the border without paying them off. or working through them. So why did 2. million people pay more to get away? That scares the hell out of me. If you. look at the numbers, you know, under. under Trump 45 I think we arrested in.
four years, we arrested a total. of 13 people on terrorist watch list. 13 by administration they'll get more. than 13 a day some days. So, you. know, on top of doing, you know, terrorist organizations, but now, you. know, as you know, President Trump. just declared, you know, MS-13 and TDA. turned to Iowa, Venezuel Venezuela. terrorist. organizations. And I pushed for the.
criminal cartels be designated. terrorists. Again, wasn't my decision, but I've been talking about this for. years. President Trump did it. I think. it's the right thing to do. A lot of. people say, "Well, how do you how do you. consider them. terrorists, MS-13 and Trenawa and the. criminal cartels in Mexico?" Because. they've killed more Americans than any. terrorist organization I know of. Mhm. By the thousands. Not only that, you. know, the these cartels in Mexico, they've killed thousands of journalists, prosecutors, judges. I mean, they run.
Mexico. Anybody thinks anything. different, you just it's you're. wrong. The criminal cartels in Mexico. control that country. They they they did. have operation control their border and. we took it away from them. Do you have any do you have insight into. the motivations that are happening not. just with cartel terrorism but more. traditional terrorism like stuff coming. out of you know al-Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban,
all of these different al-Shabaab, all. these different, you know, I don't know. what to call them. We'll just say more. traditional type terrorists. They want to destroy this country. I. mean, I'm not I'm not a terrorism. expert, but I I I read enough. intelligence reports. We know they're. here. Um I said for a long time, you. know, it doesn't matter when. I think. it's if that's my opinion. I think a lot. of people agree with me.
Um two million gotaways. If we arrested 400 trying to get in, no. one's gonna convince me that not a. single one of those two main gotaways. didn't come here to do us harm. We. already I mean uh we already shut down. was it a from Tajjikiststan not too long. ago that were planning an inside attack. Luckily the intelligence community got. some chatter on that. We're able to shut. it. down. We got a lot of unanswered. questions by the administration. How. about the two that entered through.
Quanicole Marine base? That has never. been fully, you know, uh, opened up to. the American people. What exactly that. was? Don't hear anything about it. We're. looking into it now. But do I think. there's terrorists that crossed during. the B administration is in this country. right now? Absolutely. I'd be a fool to. say I didn't think so. Do you know how. they're setting up at all within the. country? I do not know. I can just tell. you when it comes to Chinese. record amounts of Chinese nationals.
across the. border. I've been around since. 1984. These. numbers exploded under Biden and I know. there's no way tens of thousands of. Chinese national came from China to. United. States. No way they came here while the. cooperation of Chinese government, Chinese organized crime just don't. happen. I think we all can agree to. that. And and what scares me more is why are.
they why are they. here? That scares me. We know they're. already setting up, you know, places. outside of military bases. We we get we. going to have the spy bloom, corporate espionage. I mean, I and and. the vast majority, it wasn't like family. groups coming across. These were many of. most of them were, you know, military. age males, which again, it's a is a real. serious national security concern. why. they're here. I think, you know, it's. being investigated. We're looking into.
it and and hopefully we'll get some, you. know, I'm sure things are being done in. intelligence community. I'm not involved. in right now, but deep national security. concern. I've said it many times. This. open. border was probably the biggest national. security vulnerability this nation's. ever seen cuz we don't know who came. across and that over 2 million that. known gotaways. And we're not even. talking about the unknown gotaways. places like big Ben sector where we. don't have technology how many people. cross there we don't know about how many.
people came maritime they got. away how many people came through. Canada because our resources on Canada. under Joe Biden we got very few. resources in Canada border the Canadian. border anyways right but half of the. border patrol agents on Canadian border. were detailed to the southern border to. deal with that mess and the half that. remained on the Canadian border most of. them were sitting at a computer. processing southern border appensions. virtually. So there's practically no. lake patrol, river patrol, road patrol.
on the northern border. So God help what came through the. Canadian border we don't know about. What other type of bad actors are. coming? I mean we got we got human. smuggling sex trafficking. We've got. drugs. We've got regular cartel members. who are embedding themselves into the US. local US governments. We have Chinese. which are conducting all kinds of. corporate and defense espionage, setting.
up these huge Bitcoin scam camps. They're spying on our bases. They're I. mean one of them was even producing. power for for a major military base in. Texas. And then what else do we have? And then we have we have record number. Russian uh citizen Russia. How do you. think about that? You know, a lot of. these countries are special interest. countries. We had record number of. people from those countries coming. across. Not to mention the gangs, you.
know, trend Iowa and MS-13. A lot of. gang members come through. You know, I. remember during the uh the the Obama. administration where these family groups. were coming. across, we knew that some of the members. these families weren't families were. actually gang members. Administration. took no action on it. I tell the President Trump 45 his first. uh uh four years we did operation. matador up in Long Island, New York. We.
arrested just short of 500 gang members. Most of MS was. 13. When we digged into when we dig into. the files, you know that 42% of them. enter the country as a family member or. UAC. So they'll infiltrate. They'll come. in as as a stage family member. They're. not. They'll come in as UAC because. UAC's are you know up to 17. Which UAC. on on a on a couple alien. child the children come across but vast. majority of UAC's are 14 and 17. A lot.
of these are gang members. posing. They could be 1920 posing a 17. year old. That happened a. lot. Now it's not happening cuz the. border shut down. But when we went and. did this operation, 42% of. these entered as a a child of a a family. group, supposeding family group that. weren't or or a UAC, unaccompanied alien. child. They weren't a child at all. They're an adult posted as a child. But.
under under Trump 45, we attacked it. because we did DNA testing. We make sure. that family is actually a family. My. administration stopped that. And that's. why I think you saw it skyrocketing once. they dropped once they they didn't vet. the entire family due to sponsors. And. when Trump, we'd vet the entire family, just not the sponsor. Anybody lived in a. household, we vet when Biden came and. shut those rules down. No more vetting. of people in the household. No more DNA.
testing. Children skyrockets. We don't. know who who a child with with a parent. or not with a parent. And that's why we. got 300,000 missing ones now. So, it's. they relax the rules. Again, process quick, release quick. Less rules, faster the process goes. All. they care about is the optics. And I. guarantee there's children right now in. this country by the thousands who wake. up every day living a life of hell.
because they're living with a sponsor. that's abusing them. Jeez. When these entities come across, Chinese. traditional terrorists, cartel. gangs, Russians, are. they were they grouped. into would it be a. caravan or a smuggling operation of just. that entity, just Chinese, just Russian,
just al-Qaeda, just MS? usually blended. They usually blended with another group. Sometimes you got solely Chinese coming. across as a group or many times were. blended. The scariest thing about these. countries though, these unfriendly. countries, in my opinion, is when. Secretary Mayorca sits there and says. these people we released were vetted. They weren't vetted. You can call it. vetting, but we know the vetting was a. joke. We don't have act. Do you think. the Chinese government is going to give. us a national security information or or.
any information on these nationals. coming across? No. Russia, Turkey, Syria. You think any of these countries. going to share? No, of course not. And. as far as come to criminal data, we. don't have access to other countries. criminal data. You think El Salvador was. and and and Honduras and Guatemala were. I don't even know if they have an NCIC. database like we got. They weren't. property vetted when when when they. stood out and said these people are. vetted. What it usually meant was. they're vetted through NCIC and triple.
eye state system. So unless they had a. criminal history. here, you know that that's that most of. anyone's done. Now those some they'll. vet through the terrorist screening. database, but you and I both know most. terrorists in this world aren't in any. database. Yeah. unless they were part of. a T3 investigation or encountered on a. battlefield or you know there's a lot of. terrorists in this world they're not in. any database. So when they say they. vetted these people they vetted them. through a weak system. Well, on top of.
that, I mean, we actually we did have a. lot of I mean, not with new ones, but we. we had a lot of intell I mean, we used. to use this thing called the hide. system, you know, when it when I when I. was working over there that would take. a a retina map or whatever, right? And. but when we when we withdrew from. Afghanistan, the way we did, we gave all. of that up, everything. But and that. proves what the vetting was, right? They. said they vetted all the Afghanistan.
brought over here. Do I inspector. general said they weren't properly. vetted, but this administration lied. about all the vetting procedures. How about the tunnels? Tunnels are big in California. Um um. we're starting to see some now in. Arizona. Um we got some pretty good. tunnel. technology, but the more we find, the. more they dig. But this administration. upping, we got a lot of really smart.
companies, cutting edge companies are. coming to the table with tunnel. technology. Some are pretty. sophisticated. How do those work? Well, the simple they'll dig the tunnel. down Mexico and it comes up usually now. is inside of a. building. Less attention. They'll come. up outside of a like a a corporate. plaza. that'll come up inside of a. warehouse or building. Uh there's some I. don't want to discuss the technology. I. don't want to show our hand. There's a.
lot of latest technology help us find. those tunnels, but we're finding many, but there's some we, you know, again, as. we shut down the tunnel, none of it. being dug. So, it's a it's a count a cat. and mouse game on the tunnels. We shut. down a lot of them. Some are very. sophisticated. They're lighted and air. conditioned. You know, you can. take carts through there. Some you got. to crawl through. We just uh they're. using the the the.
um the drainage pipes in El Paso. They'll just go through a a city. drainage area. They use some of that. sometimes. But we got that pretty much. under control. But tunnel digging is is. is increasing just because the borders. locked down. So again, the cartels. aren't going to go away. They're going. to think of another reason or another. method to get in the United States. That's why maritime, we're seeing a. maritime increase now. A lot of them are. taken to, you know, to the Pacific or. the Atlantic through the Caribbean or. over San Diego. Some are taking bongo.
boats as far as north as Lagona Niguel. Uh, President Trump's got Navy ship out, Navy ships out there patrolling now. We. got increased Coast Guard patrols and. Bore Patrol also got maritime is. increasing. So, we're trying, we adapt. as the cartels move, you know, move. their method of operation. and we adapt. pretty quickly. Who are some of. the Have Have there been. any key players that you've.
caught. like cartel leaders, ISIS leaders, terrorist leaders, sex trafficking. leaders? Have you have you caught any. just call kingpins? Quite a few. We got quite a few of MS-13. TDA leadership. FBI's taken, as you. know, some significant uh terrorist. leaders out, but when it comes to what. I'm doing on on on immigration. enforcement, we have taken out major.
command and control of TDA and. MS-13. Uh but I won't be happy till. every single one of them has been, you. know, removed from this country. But. we've hurt TDA. TDA is on the run. Um. there's still some areas we need to. attack. problem is they got a foothold. in sanctuary cities. Sanctuary cities is. hard because local law. enforcement cannot work with us because. of sanctuary city laws. So it's kind of.
like a cat and mouse game over there. too. I mean New York City, you know, TDA. and MS-13 both have a huge presence. there. Now we're we're we just did an. operation with NYPD a month ago. I think. 3 weeks ago I was over doing press. counts. We indicted 27 members of. TDA. Huge public safety win. New York. City became that much safer, but they're. sanctuary city. Well, I think we showed. during that operation if they'd work. with us, look at the great impact we'll. have on public. safety. And now, you know, you got the.
city council over there suing the mayor. for working with us. The mayor wants to. get us back into Riker's Island to. arrest a bad guy. And it's the right. thing to do. Let us rest a public safety threat in. the safety and security of a. jail because you release him. It puts. the community at risk, puts our officer. at risk and now we got to go find him on. his turf where he has access who knows. what weapons, right? Mhm. So even though.
we show great success what we can do. together in New York City, right away. the city council sues trying to prevent. that type of cooperation, man. It's. ridiculous. sanctuary cities. Now, sanctuary cities under Biden. exploded. They did nothing about it. President Trump's taking action. Pam. Bonnie starting to file lawsuits against. sanctuary cities. I'm, you know, I'm. working with Secretary Known. We're. we're adding more resources sanctuary. cities because that's where the problem. is. They're knowingly releasing public. safety threats back in the community.
You know, I I you know, I got I got. attacked by the left for making a speech. at the at at one speech, but I was going. to go Boston, bring hell with me. So, how how dare he threaten Boston? I. wasn't threatening Boston. I was. threatening the criminal illegal aliens. in Boston that raped children. Before I. gave that speech, I was looking through. a list of people we arrested over the. past few months. I stopped that nine. illegal aliens that raped. children and they'd rather release them. back to the street than call us once.
they get out of jail. So we damn right I. said I was going to bring I'll bring. every illegal alien that commits a crime. against child over there and we did. I. went over there I think in a matter of. two days we arrested several child. predators, arrested numerous TDA. members. Uh Chicago, same thing. Chicago. mayor said I wasn't welcome to Chicago. Chicago was the first place I went after. inauguration because I was told I wasn't. welcome there. They were the first place. I went. And the first day we were there, we arrested two illegal aliens that had.
a murder conviction, arrested TDA. members, arrested child sex predators. One day in Chicago, that city was that. much safer, but they still refused to. work with us. So I've said sanctuary. city is going to get exactly what they. don't want. More agents in the. communities and more collateral arrest. because right now the media is beating. us up. Oh, you said you're going to. concentrate on public safety threats, national security threats. Well, a lot. of the people you're arresting aren't. criminals. Well, okay. Where are they. being arrested? They're being arrested.
in the sanctuary city. Why? Because you. forced me into the community. If you let. me in the jail, one agent can arrest one. bad guy in the safety and security of a. jail. But you rather release that public. safety threat back in the public, which. puts the public harm, puts the agent at. harm, puts the alien at harm because. anything can happen on the street. arrest. Let me jail. But when you force. me in the community, we're going to go. to the community and we're going to find. that person. And when we find him, he's. probably with others. Others may not be. a criminal target, but in the country.
illegally. ISIS is going to do their job. and arrest that collateral. How do these. sanctuary cities work? I mean, how how. are they harboring illegal immigration? How are they helping? Well, sanct sanctuary city don't give us. access to jail. They don't honor. detainers. So they would rather rather release the. illegal alien public safety threat back. in. community. Here's here's a. justification. Well, we're a welcoming.
community. We're sanctuary city because. we want victims and witnesses of. crime if they're in the country legally. victim and witnesses of crime to feel. comfortable coming reporting that crime. without fear that we're working with. ICE. Okay, that's We all know. that. We don't want to talk to the victim or. witness. We want to talk to the guy that. you locked in a jail cell. That's who we. want to talk to. And I'm sure the victim. and witness of a crime don't want the. bad guy back out there either to take.
revenge on the victim witness of crime. Give us the bad. guy. Because I think if you went to. immigrant community and ask them one. question, would you rather have ICE. operating in the jail or your community? They're going to stay to jail because. the immigrant community, even the. illegal im illegal immigrant. community. Even though they're in the. country illegally, many of them once a. year are pretty law-abiding. They're.
family people. They care about their. family still. They don't want a predator. in their neighborhood either. They don't. want someone arrested for DUI 10 times. in their neighborhood. either. So, let us in the jail. You you. you you're the one that locked the guy. in a jail cell apparently cuz he's a. public safety threat. Why you're locking. him up? Give us that access to that. person. When you're done with him, give. him to us. So, but stop telling the. story that you're sanctuary city trying. to protect the witness victims and. witnesses of crime to come forward. The. only reason they're going to be afraid. is because of the message sending out.
that we're out there tearing up families. and raiding neighborhoods. We don't raid. neighborhoods. We don't sweep. neighborhoods. Everybody we arrest is a target. enforcement operation. When we go out on. the streets, we know exactly who we're. looking. for. We're most likely we will find. them. We even got we have the full. immigration history, full criminal. history. We we many times we know who's. in the house, if there's children in the. house. These officers spend a lot of. time planning these operations. It's not. a sweep. We don't go through.
neighborhood looking for people. different than us. It's targeted. enforcement operation. But the left. keeps lying to the American people. saying we're sweeping neighborhoods. We're tearing families apart. We're out. there, you know, just, you know, racial. profiling. It's ridiculous. So, this is. very inteldriven. Absolutely. They every every person will. go arrest there's a a few job sheet done. on that's be signed up by a supervisor. Now, the left's out there saying, "Well, now we're raiding schools and churches. and and hospitals because we did away.
with a sensitive location policy.". We did away the sensitive location. policy of recoveries. Number one, we're. the only law enforcement agency that had. such a policy. FBI don't have that. policy. DEA don't have that policy. ATF, none of these federal agencies have a. policy where you can't arrest somebody. on a school grounds or a hospital or. someplace else. And why do we do away. with it? Because there is no. sanctuary under President Trump. There's.
no sanctuary for criminal aliens, public. safety threats, or national security. threats in this country. It doesn't mean. we're going to raid a school, but if we. have an MS-13 gang member that's a. senior at this high school over here, and we've been looking for him, we can't. find him. But all of a sudden, we know. that he's attending class here right. now, significant public safety threat. We're going to go arrest that guy with. the assistance of the local authorities. Doesn't mean we're sweeping a school. Means we're taking one bad guy out. And more than likely, we're going to. wait for him to leave.
class. But the left takes it, oh, they're going to sweep schools. They're. going to sweep hospitals. They're going. to sweep, you know, uh, churches. It's. ridiculous. But if there's a national. security threat attending mass right now. that we've been looking for, we know. he's right now in a in a mass, we're. going to arrest them. There's no. sanctuary for public safety threats or. national security threats in this. country under President Trump. So that's. why, but again, the media takes that. So, and I'm reading stories about, you. know, teachers, you know, uh, elementary. school teachers, you know, teaching.
their children and other school board. members and other teachers how to defy. ICE. They show up for your school. It's. just a vilification, and we know it's. coming. The vilification of ICE, vilification of Trump, vilification of. me, which I I don't care. I mean, I. really don't care what people think. about me cuz I know I'm doing the right. thing. So, you can hate on me all you. want. Matter of fact, I get disappointed. when I go an event there's not. protesters. I'm a little disappointed. I. actually like protesters, but.
uh the. media is. not being factual with American people. And that's very very irritating. It's. it's an insult because they're hiding. the truth. Not the media just a couple weeks ago. saying we're remove we're deporting less. people than Joe. Biden. Yeah. Why? Because the border shut down.
The border secure. A lot of Biden. removals. They're counting ice removals. and border patrol removals together. We. had millions of people coming across. every year, right? And they did remove. certain percentage of. them. We could remove 100% of the people. we encounter and Joe Biden could remove. 5% of the people he encounter. He's. still going to beat us. the border was. unsecure. He had 10.5 million people. come across the border in 10 years. But. if you look at ICE arrest or two. deportation number, ICE arrest million. people. We're killing them on on ICE.
deport. But they won't say that. They. they they fudge the numbers on purpose. It look like we're doing less and we're. not. ICS is is arresting and deporting a. lot more people. Under Joe Biden, you. had 10.5 million people come to the. border. Historic numbers every year, four years. Every year is a historic. number. He kept breaking his own record. every year. Same time you have historic. illegal immigration southern border. ICE. under Biden had the lowest numbers of. removals arrests that they arrested not. bor lowest number of arrests and.
removals by ICE in the history of the. agency. At the same time he had. unprecedented crossing on border. We've. turned that around. We got the most. secure border in in the history of this. country right now. ISIS arrest about. three times more criminals than ever. thought of arresting. I mean, I. remember you look at the numbers right. now, Sean, an average day on Joe. Biden, 1,800 gallaways that you and I. talked about every.
day. 1,800. The other day, we had 38. 1,800 a day. We had 38 the other day. You look at the numbers apprehensions a. day 10 12,000 Biden many many times a. few times got to 15 but let's just take. 10 12,000 cuz there were a lot of those. days. that's almost 800,000 a year.
of course yeah under Biden how was the. gotaway number the other. day. 41 41 too many I'll be happy with zero. 1841. The number that impressed me the. most is those they released into the. country. So the first 100 days under. Trump, nine people were released from. the border under. Trump. Four of them were material. witnesses. We need we wanted them here. to testify in a in a serious criminal.
case. Four were extreme medical. conditions. We had to take them to a. hospital or they're going to die. you. know, extreme medical. conditions. Um, we just can't deport. somebody in a bad way like they can't do. it. Talk about being. inhumane. And one was a discretionary. release for humanitar humanitarian. reasons. So, out of those nine releases, one was really. discretionary. Nine.
total. Same time frame under Biden 100. days, 184,000 people were released into. the United States. That's what President. Trump has done for this border. Again, most secure border in the history of. this nation today. How are. you, other than sending more agents, how. are you dealing with these sanctuary. cities? I mean, we saw we saw a judge, was it Wisconsin that got arrested?
Well, I said from day one, the sanctuary. cities and the governors, the mayors, and. and if you want to support sanctuary. cities, if that's what you want to do, then go. ahead. Just don't get in our way. If you. don't want I would think every governor, every mayor, any city council person, their number one responsibility is. protection of their communities. I've already been clear and President. Trump's been clear from day one. We're.
we're prioritizing public safety threats. and national security threats. They. should be shoulder-to-shoulder with us. on. this. But their hatred for Trump, their. support to sanctuary cities and the. politics, putting politics over public. safety means more to. them. I wish they loved their. communities more than they hate. Trump because we can make a difference. Bob said from day one, "You cannot. support. us. You can protest us, but if you cross.
the line, we'll seek. prosecution. If you cross the line of. impeding. us, that's a felony. If you knowingly. harbor and conceal an illegal alien from. us, that's a. felony. If you. interfere, we won't seek prosecution.". And it's already happened to one judge, two. judges. Um, a mayor was arrested just. this past few days. New York and in.
Newark because he was trespassing. We're. not going to tolerate it with We got Pam. Bondi, powerful attorney general right there. We got Caspel. I mean, um, we're simply. not going to deal with it. You can not. support us. You can you can you know. call us all the names you want, protest. all you want, but don't cross that line. cuz we're going to enforce the law. President Trump was elected by the. American people overwhelmingly because.
of his stance on the border, securing. the border and run this deportation. operation. That is what we're going to. do. We're going to keep President. Trump's promise to American people that. vote him in office for this reason. We're going to do it. So you can stand. aside and watch, but don't get in our. way and don't cross the line. But it it just sanctuary cities. We need. more people. So I what I've said. sanctuary cities, we're going we're. going we're going to flood the zone. How. many sanctuary cities are there? Oh, I. don't haveund I mean I just saw.
literally yesterday that the mayor of. Nashville is now going to use taxpaying. dollars. to harbor illegal aliens. Well, you. better. not harboring and concealing illegal. aliens. Finley 8 United States United. States Code 1324. You know, in my. career, I've arrested US citizens for. harboring an alien in the workplace or. their. homes. Why Why are politicians any. different?
I shouldn't. We're going to force law. anybody crosses across that line. But. what sanctuary cities are going to get, we're going to flood the zone. If you if. one agent can't arrest a bad guy in the. jail, I got to send a whole. team, usually five or six guys to go. arrest this person. five or six agents. to arrest this person because who knows. what weapons he has access to, arrest. him at his. turf. So, if I can't arrest him in the. jail, safety and security of the jail, which is safe for everybody, then I got. to send a whole team in the. neighborhood. If we can't arrest him at.
home, then arrest them at place of. employment. So, we're going to flood the. zone with agents in communities. We're. going to increase work site enforcement. operations 10fold. We're going to get. them. So sanctuary city is going to get. what they want don't want more agents in. your communities more collateral arrest. cuz we find a bad guy like I said before. we're going to arrest anybody we find. during while we're looking at that guy. if we find illegal alien and and. exercise that operation they're going to. go too because under the last. administration they told ICE immigration.
officers who took an oath to enforce. immigration laws told ICE you can't. arrest somebody for being here illegally. they had to be arrested for a serious. crime convicted of a serious crime crime. before you can take. action. They rewrote immigration law. Well, no. The statute was clear. We told. ICE agents, you will uphold the oath you. took. You will enforce the laws you took. an ultim. So, if you find an illegal. alien while you're looking for that bad. guy, take him into custody. So, again, sanctuary cities. Everybody said, "Why. are there so many cloud arrests?" Cuz. you forced me in the neighborhood. So,
we're going to flood the zone. What has been the response of border. patrol, law enforcement, ICE? I mean, great question. Let me tell you. something. The last four years, I made a. dozen trips to the border. I was a. border patrol agent. So, I go down there. just see what's going on. Most agents. recognize me. Uh, and they talk freedom with me.
They're miserable. They consider themselves Uber drivers, tourist agents. They weren't enforcing. the law. Yeah. They were simply finding. people they they arrested people across. the border. I wouldn't say arrest them. They took them they detained them. They. processed them and took them to an air. airport or bus station or hand them over. to NGO who took them to an air airport. or bus station. They were arresting. people who broke our laws, enter the. country legally and sending them on. their way. children. They send an O and.
O would deliver them the children to the. very people many times that arranged to. have them smuggled in the United States. That's a. felony. And. and Biden administration were delivering. these children to the same people who. paid to have them smuggled here. Now. we're addressing that right now. We hold. people accountable, but that's what was. occurring. So the morale is in the. toilet. board agents were quitting, retiring early, recruiting, they.
couldn't get recruiting done at all. ICE, same. thing. Last. month under the board, the highest. recruiting numbers ever in the history. of the agency cuz people want to be a. part of this. People want to be a part. about securing the nation, protecting. that southern border. The recruiting. numbers are through the roof. Morale's. at an all-time high. I mean, I would. think it's at an alltime high. I mean, I. remember I remember watching that uh the. the agent on.
horseback. that they they painted him out to be. whipping like he had a whip and he was. and it turned out to be just the horse. reigns. I mean, they just kneecap these. guys. I mean, when that video when that. video came out, I was sitting in my. living room. Now, I was bored till I. know the rules of engagement. I saw that. video. I think, okay, they did perfectly. They performed. perfectly. The horses performed. perfectly. Just like the horses in New. York City do crop control. The horses.
are trained very well. And these. officers on those horses are masters of. what they do. I watched that. I thought, wait, these guys did a great job. The. only people did anything wrong in that. video were the Haitian illegal aliens. who enter country illegally, which is a. crime by the way, and ignored commands. from a federal officer, which is a. crime. But no one talked about the. Haitians violating law that day. They. thought about agents whipping black. people. You had the president of the. United States stand at the White House.
podium and slander these men. You had. the Secretary of Homeland Security. slander these men from the White House. podium. And to this day, they've never. been apologized to. I said from day one, once the investigation cleared them, they didn't whip anybody. Was was there. any apologies? No. And these men's families were. bullied in churches and schools. These. their careers would never be the same. Cuz now they got a record. And even. after the investigation said they didn't. whip anybody, they're trying to come up. with some charges. Oh, you used a bad.
word or you were too aggressive. Okay, they don't they want to embarrass the. president. They had to come up with. something. But the union got some good. uh legal support fees uh agents. But it. was it was a. travesty. Can you imagine being a GS12. border patrol agent and going home that. night from work when the president of. United States compared you to racist. man? I mean these men and women put. their lives online for this country. every day. Look, I in my career I buried. border patrol agents. I buried ICE. agents. The saddest thing I've ever had.
to do is hand a folded flag to a to a. child or or surviving. spouse. They tarnished the memory of. every agent that they gave us that made. the ultimate sacrifice that day. These. men on horseback did a fabulous job and. never received an apology after after. you know thrown under the bus from the. White House podium. Now, President. Trump, he's he's like me. He he he loves.
Borat, loves he has for six. Doing what. we can to support him and but letting. them do their job is the is the best. morale booster you could ever do. I just. told you a few minutes ago, I wake up. every day like a kid in the candy shop. cuz we get to do the job. that that was that I dealt with for four. decades and can fix what the mess that. Biden made. You think my morale is high? You'll see the morale of the men and. women are actually making the. difference. The ones are carrying the. badge and gun down there, their morale. is at an all-time high. I mean, this. just bled into every every aspect of law.
enforcement. I mean, so many friends. that that left law enforcement over the. last four years because they were. telling me, "Hey, you know, we'd pick. these guys up. We'd we'd we'd we'd pull. them over. They'd have drugs in the car. They'd be drunk. They'd be trafficking. Whatever whatever the crime was. And if. they didn't have proper proper. documentation and they were illegal, then they had to let them go. So many. guys walked off the job just because.
they weren't they weren't able to. enforce the law. Is that still happening. or is that is that finished? There's a. moral alltime high. They're doing their. job. President Trump gives them full. support enforce laws and they're doing. it. Matter of fact, prosecutions right. now on the southern border are alltime. high. They're just not arresting legal. are prosecuting people. They're. prosecuting people illegal entry. They're prosecuting people for uh a. felony re-entry enter deportation. They're prosecuting people for entering. a um an army installation. Um their.
prosecutions of smuggling skyrocket. Um now we're stepping up prosecutions on. the interior. You know, you got a lot of. politicians out there, a lot of NOS's. who say they're educating illegal aliens. their constitutional rights. You don't. have to open the door for ICE. You don't. have to answer questions. You don't have. to provide. documents. And I've been going at this. for a couple months now, but I I what. we're doing now, there's 8 USC.
1253. I think that's a. site. You cannot hinder your own. removal. If you have an order order. removed from federal judge and you try. to hinder that removal, that is a crime. and we're going to start prosecuting if. you're for it. So now we'll put you in. jail, prosecute put you out, then we'll. deport you. We're not playing games. anymore. So we're out there. We're out. there. Like I say, sanctuary is hitting. them hard and we're going to hit them. harder and we're going to keep. coming. The media and these leftist.
politicians and and these activist. judges, I to this day, I've never seen. the activist judges I see right now. When you have a district court judge, district court judge. He has a. district putting in nationwide. injunctions across the entire nation. what we can and can't. do. Every time we we we we make. progress, another judge says you can't. do it. There we're we're in so much. litigation right now. It's incredible.
You know, they all want there's a legal. process or due process, but there was no. legal process. They ignore the legal. process and due process when they. entered illegally. They didn't use a. legal process then. Well, all of a. sudden now that we're deporting people, where's the legal process? Where's the. due. process? It's it's it's just. it the amount of lawsuit they've already. filed against administration. It's just. more than the last 10 years combined. It's just incredible. The amount of.
lawsuits we're facing right now, we. we'll win them, but it slows us. down. And that's what their whole. intention slow us down because we don't. want to ruin their long-term plans who. these people may be someday, you know, between two Democratic voters. I mean, I've never seen anything like this in my. career. I mean, with 10.5 million. illegal immigrants that have come across. the border within the last four years. and then you come in to clean that up, where do you even begin?
Well, President Trump made it clear we. want to go for public safety threats, national security threats first. And. that's what we've been doing. But again, the collateral numbers are increasing. because of sanctuary cities. But it's. hard. It's hard job. I can't tell you ex. everything we do to find these people. because law enforcement sensitive. But. like I said earlier, a lot of people. have a footprint that makes it run away. But there's a lot of. smart technology out there. help us find.
people. But thanks for cities are hard. What a because these people are actually. in custody at one point. We know who. they are cuz here's what people don't. understand. If you get arrested. tonight, you're going to get. fingerprinted and those fingerprints go. to. NCIC. Check for your criminal history. Well, they also bounce against DHS. databases. So, we know for a. fact John Ryan just got arrested. He's. sitting in.
Smith County Jail right now. That was a. long time ago. So then we get bumped back. If we have. immigration record, hey, this guy who. has a a warrant or deportation or this. guy we deported before is sitting in. this jail right now. So we issue. detainer say, "Hey, we want that guy. when you're done with. him." So we know where they're at. But. when sanctuary cities released them, now. they're in the community. Now we got to. go find them. So it's very hard work. But there's a lot of.
smart technology out there right now to. help us find these people, but it's not. 100%. I mean, many times, you know, we. go out look for and they move, they. change their name and and you know, just. it's it's it's a lot of hard work. But I. guess my point is when people see us out. there, we're not just we're not sweeping. anything. We have a we spend a lot of. time and effort looking at these people. uh and and building a file on these. people. So, we increase the chance that. we actually find this guy and arrest. him. It's it's not it's not a simple.
process. It's it's a small a long drawn. out process, but it' be so much more. efficient if you just give us the bad. guy in the jail. That will save. thousands and thousands of hours of. investigative work. It makes community. safer. releasing a public safety threat. back into the public when you don't have. to is just. stupid. It It just defies common. sense. If you locked him in the jail. cell, why not give them to us when. you're done with.
them? And you got sheriffs out there, well, we can't honor detain. We can't. hold them for 48 hours on your on your. word because there's some legal. precedent that can't be done. If we. don't hold them for 48 hours, why don't. you call us before you release him? We'll be there. You don't have to hold. them a minute past you would normally. hold them. Just let us know when you're. releasing them. We'll be. there. It's about public safety. And. I've called sheriffs. out who refuse to cooperate with us. I. think they forgot what it's like being a.
law enforcement officer and became a. politician. It's it's just Mayor Adams. You know, I beat Mayor Adams up for 3. years about he he was a career cop that. became a mayor and forgot what it's like. to be a cop and his cops were being beat. up by illegal aliens and he still wasn't. assisting with ICE. Then I went up and. met with him a few times, you know, through the election process and after. election and for the first time I sat. down. I saw the cop come out of him and. he said, "You know what? You're right.
Public safety threats we should be. shower. I need to get you in Riker's. Island. He arrested a bad guy in Riker's. Island rather than he being released. back to the streets of New. York. So he got him to the table. He's. doing the right thing and the city. council sues him for working with me and. working with ICE. It's just incredible. How many agencies are collaborating with. you guys to get this done? Right now the. nationwide interior enforcement. operation, President Trump has a hall of. government approach. First time ever. It's it's amazing. We got Okay. We got.
ICE which is HSI and the arro. enforcement move operations. We got the. DEA, you got the FBI, you got ATF, you. got the US Marshalss, you got the State. Department. Uh I think the postal. inspectors are coming on. Uh but for. sure is it's all the DOJ uh agencies. And what's great about. it, we arrest the illegal alien target. and he has dope. DA's right there. You. can prosecute him before we deport him.
If uh you know he got a gun, got ATF. right there. Prosecute him. Illegal. alien possession of firearm 922G felony. Prosecute him then we deport him. It's. great. Plus they have their own. intelligence, right? Da Da has a lot. numerous investigation that include that. involve foreign nationals. So they're. sharing intelligence with us. Uh FBI. same thing. Numerous investigations of. of of foreign nationals. All of our. intelligence, our databases collide with. one. We all go out there working and.
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hear your thoughts. here, there's there's such. a big sector of the economy that relies. on cheap labor, illegal immigration, home builders, commercial. builders, landscaping, just about all. the all the the bluecollar jobs in that. in that sector seem to be illegal.
immigrants. And so I'm sure because of. the mass deportations that the, you. know, the prices are going to rise. And. something that I hear a lot of are are. business owners that are that that. they're trying to they're trying to get. their. workforce legal and put them through. that. system and they're they're not able to. do it. Is there. any or do you think there should be any. type of program to fasttrack people that.
are just here to. work, keeps business flowing, keeps. prices a little bit less than what they. would be? I mean, is there any type of. program where where construction types. can get their workforce legalized? Well, first of all, let me tell you my. thoughts. after doing this for 40 years. My opinion is most people don't hire an. illegal alien out of the goodness of. their heart. Mhm. The arm clan, work.
them harder, pay them less under the. competition who have US citizen. employees. I'll give you one example. I. put a new roof in my house several years. ago. I had to call five different. companies, five or six, think five, until I got a company to guarantee me a. legal workforce. We had a lot of people come and give me. bids. One guy showed up. It was him and. his. son. They're hoping they could just do a. repair, not do the whole roof. I said,
"I don't need the whole. roof." He told me he had 20 US citizen. employees. They put on the roof at 15, 20 bucks an. hour, but he couldn't win a bid because. the other companies aren't illegal. aliens. Put them on a roof for $57 an. hour. Ridiculous wages. He couldn't win a bid. So what did he. do? He laid off 20 citizen 20 citizen. employees name just doing. repairs. That happens a thousand times. across this country every day because.
you undercut your competition as US. citizen and and illegal employment. drives down wages. That's proven. So. with that, I can tell you that it will. have an impact in some industries, especially now that we're doing work. site enforcement operations. But Biden administration shut down work. enforcement operations. At the same. time, we had the biggest human. trafficking crisis in the history of. this. nation. Where do we find most victims of. trafficking? Workforce. operations. And like I said, where do we.
find a lot of bad guys if we can't. arrest them in the jail at their job? We. can't rest them home, arrest them at the. job. So, we're doing workforcement. operations. But there there's some. industries that really rely on them. And. I think President Trump made it clear. just a few weeks ago that farm workers, he wants to, you. know, increase the program that. allows more people to come to this. country to work on farms. It's H2A, H2B. program. Um, Congress needs to make a fix. What.
what needs to happen is Department of. Labor needs to ascertain if there's. truly a need that employment to make. sure there's not US citizens willing to. take those jobs. So, Congress has a role here. I think. President Trump's looking at the this. that sector to try to provide help. So, it's a common sense approach and that's. why I think he's concentrated on public. safety threats, national security. threats first, why they work out some of. these other plans. But under Trump 45, he put an immigration plan on the.
table that based uh immigration in this. country based on. merit, what they can bring to this. country as far as work. Also, he but he. still kept moms, dads, sons and. daughters in there and family. It was a. great plan. I I was involved in looked at it parts I. didn't weren't involved and looked at. What. happened? The Congress didn't bring it. up. Why? Because the plan required money. for a wall. He had a fix for DACA. Got.
shut down by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck. Schumer. Why? Because there was money. for the wall. So, President Trump again. is putting things on the table. I think. would be bene very very beneficial. Uh. if there's a need for that employment. then we we should have those employees. but it has to go through a process make. sure we're not displacing US citizen. employees. A lot of high-tech jobs are. going to outside companies from foreign. nations. Don't tell me there's not. enough US citizen employees to take. those high-tech jobs. We could paying. jobs. There just needs to be a process.
But Trump, President Trump started the. other day talking about farm work. We. need to really pay attention on farms. because there is a need the need for. more employment on farms but they need. they need to go through the legal. process and there is a legal process. could be improved where there is a legal. process H2A program you can bring farm. workers in on a seasonal basis to come. and you know for instance pick crops. during the season then go back home when. they're done with the season. So there's. some more work to do on that but that's. why I think President Trump's. concentrating on the criminals right.
now. Would you would you like to see. would you like to see the red tape ease. up a little bit when it comes to doing. something like this? Of course. Congress Congress can fix a. lot of things. Like I told you earlier, there's three laws they could fix right. now that will solve 85% of the border. problem. That way every administration. that comes in doesn't have to undo what. the other one did. What are those. laws? trafficking victims act as we. talked about the asylum rules and the.
Florida settlement agreement let us. detain families and residential center. those three rules alone but Congress. can't seem to get anything. done I mean. um funding right now I mean we're doing. great. work but with more money we could do. more I mentioned 700,000 illegal aliens. with some sort of criminal history. either either convicted or pending. criminal charges With more money, we. could put more teams out there. Everybody we arrest to deport, we need a.
bed for it. We need more. beds. So, Congress needs to fund what I. call mandate for the American people. that put him in office to do. Congress. needs to fund us. It's the same old. budgeting process, right? Under Trump. 45, Trump tried to do the right thing. the first two years he had the House and. Senate. A lot of things couldn't get. done because there's some Republicans on. the hill and never Trumpers didn't want. to do the right thing. So, I don't have. a lot of faith in them. I'm hoping they. learn a lesson now that we have the. House and Senate, but now we got two. years to make a difference because who.
knows what's going to happen in two. years. You never count on anything. But. Congress needs to step up. A lot of. these problems could be solved by. Congress. But until then, President. Trump has stepped up. Again, the game. changer. He's issued a series of. executive orders that gave us the most. secure border in the history of this. nation right now. That's given us more. criminal arrests in the interior than. Biden ever did. So, we're doing really. good. But with more money, we can do. more and do it. quicker. Congress got a lot of things. they could address. When it comes to the.
deportations, there's a very. controversial case with the the El. Salvadorian guy who he was a El. Salvadorian citizen. Correct. Yes. What. What is the controversy there? The. controversy is during his immigration. proceedings, he had. a he had an order from a judge that he. couldn't be removed to El Salvador. because he showed a fear of his safety. from a gang that was in El.
Salvador. He had an order. withholding. However, he had two orders. of. deportation. Now, people say it was a. mistake. I'd call it maybe an oversight because. even though there's withholding order in. there, the facts of that withholding. order, the facts that justified the. withholding order have changed. For. instance, that gang he was afraid of no. longer exists in El Salvador. Oh, that's.
interesting. Second thing, cuz President. Bali like him or loving, he that's one. of the safest nations in the region. right now. What he did, he he he. obliterated MS-13 this nation. The second thing that changed, the fact. that changed is now he's a designated. terrorist because he's a verified member. of. MS-13. So things changed since number. one, now he's a designated terrorist. And two, the fear he has no longer. exists. So and here here's what's going. to here's here's what the best that. could ever happen for him. Let's say he.
came. back. He's going to be immediately. detained and deported again cuz there's. deports. He'd been ordered deported by. two different judges. They say didn't. have due process. He had all he's been. order removed by two different judges. He had just due process. So way I see. it, he's home. He's a citizen and. national Salvador. He is home and and. Boulli can do what he wants. I I I won't. get in the weeds of, you know, because. under litigation, but I think we removed.
the public safety. threat, human. trafficker, wife. beater, designated terrorists from this. country. this country is safer because he's no. longer here and we'll let the DOJ Kim. continue to litigate it. But President. Trump again committed to removing the. worst of the worst and that's what we. did. And he was an El Salvadorian. citizen. Absolutely. And he was verified. MS-13. verified by numerous sources, not only.
ICE, but by a police agency, gang unit, judge recognized it. Uh Mr. Even even El. Salvadorian recognize him as a 13. member. So, you know, and plus now. truth's coming out, right? Video of him. trafficking, smuggling wife filing protection cuz. he's, you know, assaulting. her. It It's. unfortunate that Senator Van Hal and. others flew down there to to cuddle with.
him. At the same time, you had US. citizen parents in his state of Maryland. who buried their children because their. children were murdered and raped. by a a TDA member, MS 13 member. I would. think a US citizen would be more. concerned with his US citizen. constituency who buried their children. more than a designated terrorist, public. safety threat, wife beater, illegal. alien. But that's that's where we're at.
today. We're putting politics over. public safety and politics over common. sense. Man, Mary, you need news, you. know, news reports how we're deporting. US citizen. children. We can't legally deport any US. citizen. What happened in those cases. say we deported US citizen children? No, we. didn't. The parent was already. deported. The parent has a decision to. make. Do I take my child with me? Do I.
leave him here with a spouse or another. relative? That's parenting. 101. The mother chose to take her child. with her. Her. choice. If we didn't do it, then the. story be we're separating families. Mhm. You can't win. You go back to this day, they still, you know, they refer to me. as the the godfather family separation, right? Because I was ICE director. We. did zero tolerance where families were. separated. And let me explain why we did. that. Numbers were.
increasing. families. So we said, "All. right, let's start prosecuting the. parent who brings your child through. this dangerous journey. Prosecute them. for illegal entry, which is a. crime. Maybe we prosecute them and put. them in jail. They'll stop sneaking in. the country through the cartels and put. their children in harm's way. Maybe it would decrease the amount of. rapes we see down there. Maybe less. children would die. So, we decided to do.
zero. tolerance. Zero tolerance was done to. save. lives, decrease sexual. assaults, made per you know in as a cop, law enforcement used zero tolerance. across this country all the time. July. 4th weekend, zero tolerance in DUI, zero. tolerance on prostitution in this city. Lot law enforcement use zero talent, but. let's try zero talent. Maybe we save. some lives. Maybe less women get. raped. However, when you prosecute that. parent, they're going to be separated.
from the child. A child can't go to jail. with a parent. Now, that happens US. citizens, families across this country. every day, thousands of times. When I. was a cop in New York, I separated. families. I arrested a father for DUI. Got a child in the car. Guess what? They. got child father went to jail. And many. times the child would go to CPS if it. wasn't someone to take care of. them. Domestic violence. I separated. that family. I was caught. Father went. to jail, separated from his kids. US. citizen families get separated every day. by law enforcement. It's sad. It's. unfortunate but necessary. So when we.
did zero tolerance, the whole focus of. zero tolerance in my mind was less. rapes, less people dying, less children. put in harm's way. And it worked. Zero. tolerance border crossing job. So. Homman's a racist is is cruel because he. separated families. That's why we did. it. Now you got 500,000 children were. smuggling in this country away from. their families. Put in the hands of.
criminal cartels. So that's a family. separation right. there. If I left my kid in the car for a. half hour, went and got groceries, I'd. be arrested. If I left my dog in my car. during summertime, I'd get arrested. But. 500,000 children were put in the hands. of criminal cartels, separated from. their families. No one talks about that. They still want to talk about zero. tolerance when no one want talks about. these half a million kids. 300,000 they. can't find 300,000 kids they can't find.
They don't want to talk about that. They. want to keep talking about Trump's zero. towns for I think you know 25. 3,000. separations. They didn't want to talk. about the hundreds of angels and moms, angel moms and dad that I personally met. and talked. to who buried their children cuz their. children was were raped and murdered by. a cartel or just simply killed by an. illegal alien that shouldn't be in this. country. That's a that's a separation.
cuz they buried their children. Their. children are six foot under. No one. wants to talk about that. The left keeps. talking about zero tolerance and how in. inhumane the Trump policies were but. they ignore half a million kids 300,000. missing and US citizen parents who. buried their. children like the case of Lake and. Riley. I I can't name 100 100 cases like. that. They don't want to talk about. that. And this center of Van Holland. goes down there to protect the MS-13. gamer while a mother of.
five was beat, raped, and. murdered in his. state. Did he ever go meet with. her? Politics over public safety. Politics. over common sense. Again, I'll say it. They need to love. this country. They need to love their. communities more than they hate.
President. Trump. It just don't make sense. As a. kid that grew up in law enforcement. community, I cannot believe where we're. at as a nation right. now. President. Trump is doing the right thing every. day. Look, I I I spent so much time with. the president, whether it's in the Oval. Office, Air Force. One, outside. events. People can hate him all they. want. This man loves this country. He's.
doing the right thing for this country. The the America we grew up in, the. America I grew up in, West Carthage, New. York, that flag on our reports, that's. the America he wants. back. Securing the border saves. lives. He has ille immigration on 96%. Studies have been done that women who. make that journey get sexually 31% of. women get sexually. assaulted when President Trump has. illegal immigration down 96%. When 96%.
less people are coming, how many women. aren't being raped? How many children. aren't dying? How many Americans aren't. dying from drug overdoses or fentanyl. drugs across that border? How many women. and children aren't sex trafficked? How many. members of terrorist watch list or no. fly list aren't coming across that. border? Even the wall saves lives. People say Trump's banning wall. No. Every place they build a border barrier, illegal immigration went down. Illegal.
drug flow went down. Every place they. put a border barrier. Mo what the most. important thing about a border barrier. no one talks about? It saves lives cuz. the most vulnerable, the women and. children can't get over that wall, which. means they're going to go to a place. where there's not a wall. And what's. waiting on them? The men and women of. the border patrol who's going to deal. with that humanitarian issue right now. cuz a lot of them are in bad shape when. they find them. Wall saves lives. So. when 96% less people coming, how many. lives are being saved every day in that. southwest border? President Trump's. saving thousands of.
lives. A secure border saves lives. And. that's what the President Trump has. done. and the eleto gave him zero credit. for it. How how did you come in and secure that. border so fast? We got a great. president. President Trump during his. first speech at the capital when he says. you didn't need new laws, you didn't. need Congress, you need a new president, he was exactly right because on Trump 45. he was a game changer, right? He created. the remaining Mexico program. He had the.
third safe country agreements. He. stopped ended catch and release. So we I. knew when he came back in. office, we know where to start because. we already proved these policies worked. So what he he immediately wrote a series. of executive orders. uh you know and all a lot many the same. many new ones. And like I said in seven. weeks we had that board at the highest. level. ever even more now. I mean I think in.
seven weeks had it down like over 90%. Now we're at 96%. Damn. And uh the. numbers are extraordinary because. because what he came up with in his. first administration proved it worked. That's why I pushed back against you. know the bill that the. the Congress had said that President. Trump didn't want the border bill signed. cuz he wanted this to be election issue. That is such that bill would. not have. worked because it was it was going to. allow you know five four to 5,000 a day.
until they take action that you know you. do the math that's 1.8 eight men a year. We're okay with that? No, we're not. Shouldn't be okay with one. And didn't. address the sex trafficking or or the. child trafficking. The bill was. terrible. There was a bill called HR2. that the Republicans came up with and. the Senate wouldn't even take it up for. debate. So, the bill that everybody. talks about that President Trump shut. down. I hope he did. I was against it. I.
said it won't work. said why why would. we want to take a risk on a bill that we. know won't work and we know the secret. secret recipe is is what Trump did in. Trump 45 which HR2 the bill I was. talking about that the Senate would even. bring up that had most of Trump's plans. in it we know that worked why would you. argue against known. success well here's what they did put. this this this terrible bill up had a. couple people in Republican party. support it for reasons I don't. understand they thought something was. better than nothing. maybe but they came up with bill the.
last of the administration trying to. show they cared about the border. What. they did they it was a setup. Let's get. a couple Republicans to agree to this. It will never pass. We know it will. never pass. Then we say Republicans shut. down border security. They didn't want. to fix it. They didn't sign this bill. President didn't support it. He didn't. want it fixed. He wanted this to be. election issue. That was a bunch of. crap. The bill wouldn't have worked. It. would have made things worse. And I've. done this for long. I've done it longer. anybody in the up on the hill that was.
involved in writing this bill has been. involved. It was a setup. Let's let's. set a bill up. We know it never passed. and we put the blame on them for not. passing the bill. That was a game plan. They tried it with President Trump came. back in. He did what he had to do and we. fixed it again. Most secure border ever. right now. So, it sounds like he. basically just said, "Tom, take the. gloves off." What? Secure the border? What did you do? What did you do to fix. it? The biggest game changer in securing the.
border was President Trump and the. executive orders. They're huge big game. changers. But we we basically went down. the same road we did before. You know, we and and we add a few other things to. it like the Alien Emmys Act. We use. every tool in the toolbox, every every. statute we could, every angle we could. of existing laws, existing statues, existing acts to secure that border. We. we rather make a B patrol problem or an. ICE problem. We made all a government. problem. Uh the game changer, President.
Trump, the game changer was the men and. women of ICE and men and women of B. patrol that actually did it got know. took construction got it done. They're. the heroes in all this. I'm just a guy. sitting the the White House helping. develop the strategies along with people. like Steve Miller and others. But. President Trump, his EOS were a game. changer from day one. You know, remain. in Mexico game changer. It's probably. out of all the policies, the last two. administrations, Trump administration,
that's that's the biggest game changer. You can still claim asylum. You have. that right, but you're going to wait in. Mexico cuz we know nine out of 10 of you. will lose and get order removal. Now, we. don't have to go find you. And releasing. people in the United States just is an. enticement people to come. When you no. longer get released in the United. States, if you're not really escaping. fear and persecution, you're not willing. to give your life savings to the. criminal cartels to lose your case. If. you really are escaping fear and. persecution from your home government, then you you're willing to put up with.
that. So, you know, here's a here's a. sad thing where where the left is still. saying, you know, these people are. asylum seekers. They have a right to due. process. They have a right to claim. asylum. Okay? and nine out of 10 been order removed. and you don't want them. removed. Due process doesn't mean squat. if at the end of due process a judge's. order isn't executed. And that's why the. hate right now the the talk of a massive. deportation operation is racist. What a.
terrible thing to do. No, it's not. on. the end of historic illegal immigration. crisis with 10.5 million that and that's. a low number came to the son of this. what we know about tens of millions of. people come to the border you demand due. process and we give them that due. process and a judge orders them removed. and we don't remove them then what the. hell are we. doing shut down immigration court. doesn't mean anything anymore take the. border patrol off the border because. there's no consequence no mhm due.
process doesn't mean squat if the final. decision ision of the court isn't. executed. And if the message we want to. send to the whole world, enter the. country illegally, it's a crime. Thousands of people die making the. journey. Show up in court or don't show. up in court, get order removed, but. don't worry, no one's looking for you. You don't have to be removed. You're. never going to solve the. problem. You can't demand due process. Ignore the end. So that's exactly what. we're doing. People who've been ordered. deported, they need to go home. But.
we're. asking if you're in the country league, go on your own. Go on the CBP home app. now. Sign up. We'll help you get home. We'll give you an airline ticket. Put. some cash in your pocket. Go home. It'll. be a huge cost savings. American. taxpayer. That way you can come back. maybe in the future under legal program, maybe as a visitor, maybe as a student, maybe you have a US citizen child that. can petition for you someday, alien. relative. But if we have to go search. for you and go through the whole process.
having you formally deported, there's. certain bars placed on you statutoily. Anywhere from 5 to 20 years, you can't. come. back. Leave on your. own. Get your affairs in order, work. with ICE, and leave on your own. And. that's what President Trump, you know, how was that. inhumane? President Trump's offering. different ways to get this done. But the. answer is you can't stay here if you're. in the country illegally. You've had. your due process. It's time to leave. We. can't send a message that our process.
mean nothing, our laws mean nothing. I would imagine you're getting a lot of. push back from cartels. I mean, I get a. lot of very much disrupting their. financials with human trafficking, with. drug trafficking, with anything else. that's coming in. I mean, how is what. kind of what kind of hurdles are you. facing from cartels down there? Well, the cartels are trying to, you. know, they're going to change their. method of oper. They're going they're. want to get their product in here.
somehow. So, I said earlier, you know, maritime's increasing. They're going to. be tunnels. They'll come through Canada. You know, again, we're on top of it. I. think that's why President Trump is is. is forcing Canada to do. more to secure their southern border, our northern border, and and and they're. stepping up some ways. the president. wants more out of them. But addressing. how the cartels change their method of. operation, it's it's important. Are you seeing a lot of drone activity. with product coming over? Yeah. Drone.
activity is picking up and there's but. there's a lot of techn DoD has some. great technology along with there's a. lot of companies out there at the table. now with great drone technology uh to. address that threat. Uh there was some. intelligent reports saying they're going. to deliver explosives and drones and try. to harm us. If that was ever to. happen, all hell's going to break loose. Mhm. Cuz President Trump will not. tolerate it. Are you guys I said from. day one, he will wipe them off the face.
of the earth. And he will. He's already. trying to talk to Mexico. Let's take the. cartels out together. I think you and I. both know it's going to take me. It's. going to take a the United States. It's. going to take this country, whether. special forces, our intelligence, or. special whatever it is. They're not. going to do it without. They can't. Mexico has failed for decades to take. out the cartels. It's going to take. leadership from the United States. I. hope Mexico comes to the table and. because President Trump wants to wipe. them off, face the earth like he did the.
caliphate. I mean, he wants to do the. right thing. I hope Mexico steps up and. lets us do it because that's that's the. only way it's going to get done in my. opinion. Are you guys utilizing. companies? Are you familiar with Eperus? No, I'm not. Eperis is that anti- drone. I can tell you that numerous drone. operators have contacted me about. helping out on the border and I send. them over to CBP, custom border. operations. I I don't deal with. contracts, but I send them over to the. right people. I know they talked to a.
lot of people. They got some great. technology down there now. Again, as we. get more budget from Congress, we can do. more of that. But there's a lot of great. companies out there that has great. technology. I've said it from day one. We could not do what we do as a whole, the government, without smart contract. personnel. It's like our detention. operations. Our contract companies do it. better than we've ever done it. They do. it cheaper. They do it better. Those ice. tricks, my most expensive beds were the.
ones that we owned. Federal government. does anything very cheap. So, there's a. lot of smart companies out there coming. to the table. Of course, you know, the. left will say, "Well, they're prisons. for hire, prisons for profit." There. isn't a company out there that doesn't. work for the government for a profit. I. mean, you know, if that's the case, and. shut down McDonald Douglas, you know, every company makes a profit dealing. with the United States, but they they. provide a service we need. But I can. tell you, there's a lot of high techch. companies. It seems like technology. improves every other month. Great drone. technology, great tunnel technology, u.
um helping us find people that don't. want to be found, great AI generated. stuff. There's a lot of stuff out there. that um a lot of companies are coming to. the table wanting to help. So, and we. welcome all of it. Yeah. I mean, like. just Eperis for example, I mean they. it's a it's a directed EMP pulse that. takes 100 drones out at once if if. cartel were to utilize that. And so I. was just wondering if you're putting if. you're implementing that technology.
along the border, unmanned. um vehicles, the Eperis energy wave. weapon to take out drones, all that kind. of stuff. How is how is DoD integrating. with Border Patrol on the border? They've been fantastic. They're doing a. lot of the intelligence backing for us. They do they do they do a lot of things. that doesn't require immigration. authority a badge and gun. Uh we've done. 287 geo national guard on the.
interior. My goal was and the white. house goal. is we need as many title 8 immigration. enforcement. officers with a badge and gun many of. them on the street or on the line as. possible. We don't want them sitting. there doing intelligence. We don't sit. there, you know, uh, building. infrastructure or transportation. Put. the bats and guns where they're needed. the most and bring other people into the. other. I went down all pastor watch DoD. down there in action. They're doing. they're doing a lot of the intelligence.
They're they they got great capability. telling where the groups are crossing, where they're coming through, where they. and war respond immediately to them. They do a lot of. uh the radar technology, their camera. technology. They basically call out to. ice. Okay, you got a group coming here. or there. It just saves our resources. because rather than our guy operating. the sensor or operating the camera, got. DoD doing that, that's just more agents. on the street to respond quicker. So,
they've been a great force multiplier. Of course, the DoD airplanes, the. removal flights been fantastic. You. know, DoD stepping up with facilities, you know, GMO and and things like that. DoD's been a game changer. And I went to. El Paso with Pete Hexath and he's all. in. I mean, he like like I said, he told me he told me that, you know, it's great that DoD is protecting our. border now cuz they protect everybody. else's border for decades. It's a game. changer. When I go on the streets with.
ICE and I I go to raids, I like to get. out there, you know, I miss it. So I go. out there rage once in a while and and. rather than just seeing a Jack says ICE, I see Jack say ATF, DEA, FBI, you know, State Department, everybody together and. uh President Trump this time came back. stronger and harder and I think that's. why we had the greatest success right. now because he brought all of government. because because again I think the. overarching principle here, you can't. have strong national security if you.
don't have strong border security. We. didn't know what's coming in, who's. coming in, why it's coming in, where. it's coming in. So, I think President. Trump recognizes that. So, he put the. all the government on there. And like I. say, today we got the most secure board. in history of this nation because of of. his out of the box thinking on this. I. think I think uh other administration. going to be envious of the success that. President Trump's had. Has there been. any kinetic push back from cartels? Is.
there any combat going on down at the. border? There's combat going on in. interior. Mexico because now they're fighting each. other for control of plazas because. they're losing money. So they want. bigger control. Um there's been a battle going on out. down there for a while. You don't hear. read a lot about I I I know people that. have that. intelligence. My fear, as I mentioned. before, my fear is that.
violence overlaps the. border. I actually say a prayer every. night for the men and women of the board. to ice to go home safe every day cuz I. feel like it's a matter of time. I'm. hope I'm wrong, but especially in. sanctuary. cities where they're knocking on the. door of a bad. guy where he has access to who knows. what when he could have got him in. county.
jail. I hope I'm wrong, but the odds of. us doing this for 4 years with nobody. being harmed concerns. me. Our officers at great risk because. we are prioritizing the worst of the. worst. And so many criminals came in. under. Biden. So many public safety threats, national security threats. I mean, our. agents are being doxed. Uh pictures and. home addresses being put out. there, man. You know, I mean, I get.
doxed every day. I mean, I'm used to it, but I had a thousand protesters on my. home the other. day. Thousand. They're not going, you know, they're wasting their time. You can you. can exercise your first amendment rights. all you want, but Tom H is going to keep. doing what he's doing. I'm not going. anywhere. Um, but the agents, I I I'm concerned about. the agents and the media doesn't help. when they when they, you. know, when they they they call them.
thugs and and they're violating people's. rights and they're violating civil. rights or violating due process. A bunch. of These men and women are. very well trained. And as one stepped online once, yeah, you got bad dentists, you got bad. doctors, you got bad lawyers, and I'm. sure we have some bad officers that, you. know, here and there, but 99% of these. men and women, you know, strap a gun to. a hip every day, put a Kevlar vest on, and they don't make a lot of money and. they get vilified just like the horse.
patrol did. They don't deserve that. Mhm. And you. know, but they got a president now. rather than sitting at the White House. polling and vilifying him for something. they didn't do, you got a president has. six. How is it working with the Mexican. government? Are they on board? Are they. helping at all? Mexico stepped up. I. mean, they've uh they put military on. their border. Um they've agreed to.
remain in Mexico and and. stage. progress. Uh, we got a tough. president. He's not going to take no for. an answer. You know, it's against the. law in Mexico to trafficking women and. children. They need to prosecute it. It's against the law in Mexico to. transit that country if you're from. another country without a transit visa, but they allowed it. So, President Trump. and Joe Biden could have done this. Strong president would do it. Trump.
president came in, he was he's not gonna. take no for an answer. You know, during. Trump 45, I remember, you know, after. Operation Mador arrested all these Al. Salvador and MS-13 gang members on the. way home on Air Force One, he president. asked me how soon we can get them out. I. told him it's a long drawn out process. Al Salvador pushes back and return the. criminals. I think it was 2 3 days. later. I got a call, how many planes can. we fill up? President called out. Salvadors, you know, he's going to take.
them. back. You know, the third safe country. agreements, they didn't want to sign. those bills. The. president held them. accountable. Mexico, Trump 45, you know, he said you going to tariff them if you. know, President Trump puts America. first. So, Mexico's helping. I don't. know how much of this they want to help. or how much they have to help because. you got a strong president in the White. House. I mean uh I don't get know that's. Marco Rubio and the president has those. discussions the vice president I can. just tell you. Mexico have has a lot of resources on.
the border now and. um with some intelligence are taking on. some of the fentanyl but we'll see what. would you like to see DoD do you like to. see socom JC units go into. Mexico and read the cartel. I won't get. ahead of president on. that, but I don't think the cartels are. going to go away without US.
involvement. President Trump did it. ISIS, we show we're really good at the. away game. I think when it comes to. criminal cartels, we got to play the. away game. Stop the poison before it. gets here. Then, of course, in this side of the. border, we got to address. the drive, the need for drugs like that. We got to address that. We're customers. So, but do I think the criminal cartels. are going to go away without our.
involvement? Absolutely not. I don't. know. Mexico has failed in decades to do. it. And like I say, a lot of Mexico's. corrupt. They run Mexico. I mean, they're infiltrating Mexican military is. corrupt. Much of the Mexican law. enforcement is corrupt. Much of the. Mexican government's corrupt. And many. of them don't want to be corrupt, but. you take the payoff and do what we tell. you to, we'll kill you and your family. And they will. So, you know, I. think if we were to wipe the cartels off. the face of the earth, Mexico would be. such a better country. They'd be a safer.
country, a self-ruling country where. cartels don't don't own the military and. law enforcement and some government. officials. I think I think in the long. run, Mexico would be such a a better. country if they they didn't have the. cartels operating there. So, I think President Trump did exactly. the right thing, designating terrorists. I think he's doing the right thing, offering Mexico his assistance and. taking them out. Do you think we'll see any action in the. next three and a half years?
I think the President Trump's going to. do what he can to protect American. people. How is it working with Christine Gnome? Christine Gnome's come to the table. I. mean, she uh she's done more I've an. awful lot. She'd done more enforcement. actions than my did in four years. So, she's out there. She's I saw her out. there the other day uh taking on. Governor Pritsker, which had been taken. care of. But she's out there working. I. saw her doing ride alongs with ICE and. Bord Patrol and Coast Guard. So, she's.
out there with the men and women on the. front line, which I think's great. I. think it shows men and women that she's. supporting them. Um, of course, now she's being vilified, right? She's so she's being attacked. I. watched her hearing the other day. I. thought she did great. They want to. attack anything to do with immigration. enforcement. Anything to do with. deportations. They're just they're going. to continue to attack and attack and. attack. But again, we are expected that. the media is saying that you're.
deporting US citizens. Is there any. truth to that? No. It's illegal to port. US citizens. We simply allow illegal alien parents. who be deported to take if they want to. take their child with them who may have. been born here. That's their decision. They can leave them here or take them. with them. I mean, that's a that's. parenting. 101. And like I said, you know, if if we. didn't know the mother take her child. with her, then immediately. saying Trump administration is.
separating families again. We're trying. to keep families together. I said it. during the interview uh before the. election. I was asked that question. How. do you do a mass deportation operation. while separating families? This is. deport the family together. If you're in. this country illegally and you know. you're in the country illegally and you. choose to have a child. here who's going to be a US citizen. based on. that, you put yourself in that position. Not Tom Holman, not President Trump, not. the Trump administration. You made that.
decision to have a child while you're. here knowing you're in the country. illegally and you most likely will be. deported. That's on you. So when that. parent gets ordered deported, they have. a choice to make. They made a choice. about having the child here. Now you. need to make a choice. Take the take. child with you as a parent or leave him. here with the other parent or leave him. here with relatives. That is your call. So it's parenting oneonone. Let let the. parent make the decision. But for those. that vilify us, no, they put themselves. in that position. Now they got to deal. with it.
But where they where did they even come. up with this Are they just making. stories up then Aaron? Well they saying. because US citizen children want their. parents we deported the children. Absolutely not report the children. And. others saying well the child wasn't. given due process. What do you mean due. process? They're an. infant. The mother says my infant goes. with. me. Who's going to disagree with that? She's the mother.
So, you know, like I say, the last. administration want zero tolerance, separating families. This time, we're. trying to keep families together. We. can't do that either. I mean, we're. doing the right thing. Parenting 101. I. mean, again, if we send a message, you can. enter this country. legally, you get an order removed, don't. leave, hide out for a few years, have a. US citizen child, and guess what? Now. you're. immune. That court order doesn't mean. anything. You're immune from our. laws. If that's the message we're going.
to send the whole world, you're never. going to solve the problem. They're. going to keep coming to this country. You have US have US citizen child and. you're good to. go. That's a message we can't send. Having US citizen child does not make. you immune from our. laws. Where do you go from here? I mean, you've secured it to 96. We still got. some we got we got a little more work to. do on the border and you know it's it's. still a crisis until we you know there.
are some godaways we're concerned about. Who are they? Are they people from. terrorist related country? We don't. know. So we got to drill some things. drill drill down some of the things. Northern border needs more work. Maritime needs more work. But right now. we got the most secure border in the. history of the nation right now. So we. got some more work to do. Um we got to. play the way game more. We need we need. to address the cartels outside this. country who who traffic people from all. the world. We got we got to shut them. down. So we got to play the way game. Uh. interior enforcement. We got a lot of.
work to do. Um you know personally I. think there's over 20 20 million illegal. aliens in this country. They keep saying. 12 million. We've been using 12 million. for two decades. I mean Biden. administration alone we know they. release at least 6 to 7 million. released. So you know I I think there's. at least 20. We got a lot of work to do. here. Again, we're going to concentrate. on the worst first, but just cuz, let me. make this clear, just because we're. concentrating on the worst first doesn't. mean we ignore everybody else. Mhm. You. know, I may prioritize my family life.
over my work life. I don't forget about. my work life. If you're in the country. legally, you got a problem. You're not. off the table. But we're going to do. this wise. We're going to do it smart. way. One's the public safety threats and. national security threats. They're the. biggest danger of the community. So, of. course, have to go first. Uh, so we got. more interior enforcement work to do. We. need to shut down sanctuary cities. Sanctuary cities should be illegal. Uh, and I I think we got the right people in. place now with this administration and. Pam Bondi and others. I would take.
sanctuary cities to task. Take them to. court. Uh, we got to shut down. progressive judges who simply are. ignoring the law and and trying to stop. us from doing what we're doing. I think. we'll win these cases when they get to. higher courts, but it's just it's it's. going to take a long time. Will we see a. completion to the wall that that was. we're we're already rebuilding the wall. Again, the more money we have, the more. wall we can do. So again, we need. Congress to fund this. Um the more money. we have, the more we can do. Where are.
the strategic locations where you would. start with the wall? The board has a an a strategic plan. based on the crossings based on where. they think where traffic has historic. historically come and where they're. seeing now what the fuel coming across. Uh that plan changes all the time based. on intelligence based on what they're. finding out down south. Uh so that.
changes all the time but bor they just. don't put a wall up here because it's. cheaper. They don't put a wall up here. because someone wants a wall there. Borgjo actually has a strategic plan. built on intelligence and crossings. information from the smuggling cartels. about where their activities are. switching to. Then they'll place a wall. where it makes the most sense. I don't. want to give specifics because that. specific will change next month. Gotcha. Well, there's you know there there's. places where the wall can't be built, right? Like in the the national parks. where we need more technology there. because you can't build a wall like.
this. There are some areas where there's. natural cliffs. Well, that's where you. put, you know, anti- drone technology. and and more technology. What the B. administration did when they stopped. building the wall, even some of the wall. that was built, they wouldn't even. finish the technology inside that wall. Smart technology that allowed agents to. communicate, allows agents to run quick. records checks. You know, you approach. that wall, you dig under that wall, you. climb that wall. Well, no, there's a lot. of technology in that wall. They stop.
the technology in that wall. There's. places on the border a just can't talk. to one another. So not only we so we we. got finished technology in some of the. existing wall but we build a more smart. wall. Smart walls it's a wall system. It's just not a wall lot technology in. that wall. We got access to that wall. Uh pathways agents can respond quickly. So there's a lot to it but we're already. starting to rebuild it. We're also. putting I think right we're always we're. already doing 75 miles of buoy barriers.
in the river which are very effective. What are those? They're buoys that float. in the middle of the real grand and. almost impossible to get over. Uh. and underneath it there's a there's a. fencing underneath it goes all the way. to the so there it game changer. Uh. Trump 45 we looked at that technology. We liked it. Of course, then the. election happened. Never happened. Uh. but now I I think they're putting 75.
miles of it in more. And that's right on. the water. So people stop, they see the. barrier, most will not attempt to cross, which means less drowned. A lot of. people drown that river every year. So. when they see that barrier saves lives. and less people will want to take that. barrier on. I mean, a lot of illegal. aliens die in that river. People think. that river doesn't have a current. You're wrong. Hundreds of people die in that river. every year. Not now for the border. secure. Well, Trump administration, they.
now when you you see people drowned, they find dead bodies all the time. People just die crossing that. river. Most a lot of people can't swim. What is the It's just a personal. question. Bortac, heard a lot about it. Can't get. anybody to talk about it. Seems like. they're extremely well trained, almost. like a J-C unit. What is what is the. mission of Bortac? They're kind of bored SWAT. team. They're badass. That's what I.
hear. Guys are good. I mean, I was never. in Bor Tech when I was in Borl. I wasn't. good enough. These guys are well. trained, great shots with great with a. firearm. Um, now they're into repelling. [Music]. and jumping out airplane with ele with a. parachute. I mean, these guys have. really have increased their training is. doing. They're incredible. Is it within. the US border they operate or do they go. into Mexico, too? They don't operate.
within Mexico. Well, they do operate on. the border in the interior uh in my home. state, New York. A couple prisoners. escaped from Danamore State Prison and. looked for him for a long time. Couldn't. find him. They brought Bortch in there. They found the first guy. Well, they. actually shot and killed the one one the. first one. Second one was later caught. I had a prisoner escape in a jail, two. years ago. Couldn't find a board. So, Bortax's good. They're they're they're. well trained and uh.
and it all started back back in my. day. Um I was born in Campo when I. worked down the San Diego area. um Tijana area. They had what they call. the border bandit squad because bandits. would work the border and they'd rip. people off heading to the United States, take all the money, take their goods, rape women. So you had a border bandits. there operating. So you had a border. bandit patrol which was border patrol.
special operations along with local. sheriffs. Took a lot of those border. bandits out there a lot of armed. conflicts, a lot of shootings. Uh the. Bortac is I would call the SWAT team the. Borto and they're very very well. trained. Well, Tom, we're wrapping up the. interview here. Last. question, second to last. question. I just want to know, is there. anything we didn't cover that you want. the American people to know?
I don't want the American people to know. that, you know, the Trump. administration, unlike what the media is. pushing, is not. inhumane. Everybody in this group is. trying to save. lives. As I said earlier, secure borders. saves. lives. We're looking for 300,000. children, the B administration, at least. in the country, to sponsor that weren't. properly vetted. Everybody in this program right now.
knows what it's. like to see children forced sex. trafficking or forced. labor. I've seen a lot of tragedy in my. life and I'm simply trying to prevent as. much of that tragedy as possible to. secure border sex. lives. I get called a lot of names. I. don't care. I don't I don't give a. what people think about me. I don't. As. long as my family, my Lord and Savior. think I'm doing the right thing, then. I'm good. Um, the hate doesn't mean.
anything. The protesters, I love them. That means my message is getting out. That means you're over the target. We're. saving lives every day. Secure border. saves lives. Illegal migration is not a. victim's crime. People, you see an. illegal alien, you say, "Okay, well, here he make a better life for himself. and his family. He's working maybe in a. restaurant or something." But you don't. understand the whole ugly underbelly. what happens with these criminal. cartels, what happens on the border. Um, illegal immigration is not a victim of. crime. The fix the system needs to be.
fixed, but until then, we can't allow. people come into this country unvetted. We can't allow the border to be a crime. a crime zone for 2,000 months. Just. can't allow that. A lot of bad things. happen on that border. A lot of bad. things come across that border. And what the Trump administration, I'm. proud to say again, I I'll say a. thousand times a day, the most secure. border in the history of the nation. today because of leadership, President. Trump and the men and women wearing that. uniform. Man, that's good to hear. So, I.
would like, you know, I've read all. these stories about Bor Patrol, ICE. agent, you know, for your viewers. If. you see a Bor Patrol. agent, tell them thank. you. They're getting vilified every day. by media. ICE agents, they're getting. vilified. Death threats are outrageous. Um, just give him a give him a thank you. because they really. are. 2:00, 3:00 this morning, you're. going to be laying in bed. I'm going to. be laying in bed. Hopefully, we'll be.
sleeping next to our loved. ones. At the same time, you got a board. agent standing on a dirt trail in the. middle of nowhere because a sensor went. off. So something's coming north on that. dirt. trail. They don't know is it an illegal. alien look for a better life or is it a. heavily armed drug. smugger? They don't know if they're. going to take it. on. I know because I've done it. I've.
stood in that dirt trail board and. in your pants wondering what's coming. But they're going to stay in there and. take it on. They're doing this every. night while we sleep. Keeping this. country safe. Men win right. are getting. vilified every day in the media. Every. Marway company read all these stories. about ICE aids, how terrible they. are. People need to remember the ICE. agents and board agents, they're mothers. and fathers, too. They don't hang their heart on the. hook. They go to work. They've seen a. lot of bad things happen that they take.
home to them every day. They take. sicknesses home to their families, whether. it's TB, they get they get TB screenings. all the time. They they take the. sickness. These men in the Bor Patrol, they actually bring toys from their. families to bring them to children to. play with while while they're in the. facilities. They they really do care. They really do have a great. heart. On the last four years on Biden. administration, the record amount of. Boris that committed suicide was highest.
ever at over 40, I believe. Now, what I. don't. know whatever internal struggles they. were. having, giving CPR to babies, talking. little girls been raped, finding dead. bodies floating down the. river, seeing how these criminal cartels. treated these people, certainly wait on. them to the point they took their own. lives. These men and women are heroes, and I hope the American. people understands your heroes.
recognize them as heroes and thank them. That's all I ask for. I mean, I I'll. retire again, hopefully the last time, but I'll always have the six of of of. these men and women because I was one of. them. I know what it takes. They're. nation's finest. Our our our military. and our first responders are America's. minus 1%. I hope people recognize. that. True Americans.
It's a great closing statement. Thank. you. Last question. If you had three. people you'd like to see on the show, who would it be? President. Trump. You want him? You bet. I think. President Trump. I think he's again, people have their opinions. But for a. guy that does what I do, greatest. president of my. lifetime cuz this proven success on the.
border. John. Roberts, get him out of the show and. figure him out. All. right. Third. I was going to say cash. We already had. him. Steven.
Miller, reach out. Steven Miller has. a has a great mind. He's he's just. brilliant and not just with. immigration, trade. I mean, just a smart. guy. I think you'd have an interesting. conversation. I would love that. Maybe you can help me. reach. him. Perfect. I'll see him in the. morning. All. right. Well, Tom, I just want to say it. was an honor to interview you and uh. Pete Hagath number four. Pete Hagsth.
I'll work on him. He's been on before. He has. So has President Trump, but I'll. do it again. When When was President. Trump on? I think it. was I think it was August. No, you got. to get him now. All right. Look at what. he's doing. Put in a word for me. Look. what he's doing right now. Now you need. to talk to him. All right. He's changing the world. We'll do what.
we can. Hey, man. All right. Well, thank. you so much again and uh man, you're. just. you're crushing it and uh appreciate. you. Good to see you. [Music]. No matter where you're watching Shawn. Ryan Show from, if you get anything out. of this, please like, comment,
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