Tim Burchett - Inside UFO/UAP Government Programs | SRS #78 Part 1

It used to be that the UFO UAP topic. was strictly a forbidden subject matter, right? In fact, if you spoke of it, you would. likely become the laughingstock of the. day. Well, since then, the topic has gained. a lot of relevancy. It's gaining a lot of traction and. rightly so. In fact, just a few months. ago was the first ever. congressional hearing in the United.

States on UFOs and UAPs. And since then, Mexico. has had a conference on it or a hearing. NASA. has had a hearing on it. And so, we brought in Tennessee. Congressman Tim Burchett, the man that with a few of his. colleagues was able to set that hearing. up here in the US. And so, we're here to. dissect that hearing, talk about some of. the government programs that he knows.

about, that has a little bit of. knowledge of, and talk about how we're. going to achieve full disclosure from. both our government and the. military-industrial complex companies. Ladies and gentlemen, please like, comment, and subscribe to. the channel. Hit that bell in the bottom. there to. get notified. Head over to Apple and Spotify, leave us. a review, and most of you already know. this. We see you taking reels, taking content.

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Congressman. Tim Burchett to the Sean Ryan show. Congressman Tim Burchett Welcome to the. show. Appreciate appreciate just call me. Tim. All right, we'll call you Tim from. here on out. Right on. For starters, I just wanted to. say thank you to you and your staff for. getting me into the whistleblower the. first ever congressional hearing on UFO. UAP stuff couple months back. That was.

really eye-opening and it was nice to. see our government talking about it and. I hope it is it going to happen again? Yeah, and thank your boy Eli Crane cuz he's. the one who. put me. told me about you and stuff and and. and ask and so that and my staff is. wonderful by the way. Yeah, um. I went to McCarthy went to speaker we.

wrote a letter myself. um. Luna and Jared Moskowitz they're all out. of Florida. Gates wrote the letter. and it said we wanted a select. committee. A select committee would allow us a. little more. power. and uh. and I went to see Kevin McCarthy about. it first week back after the August. recess. and he said. that in fact no we would not get a. select committee.

We would but he he would give me another. hearing. He said this stuff is really. popular and I was so I said well why why. don't we get a hearing and why can't we. have select committee? I was and I. didn't think we were going to get it. um. because nobody wants to turn over power. to anything up there. And he said well. the intelligence committee had you know. we'd stepped on some toes and. intelligence community, I believe, too. And um. And so but we could have another. committee meeting committee hearing or. whatever you want to call it. So, yeah,

we're going to have one very similar to. the last one. We just have to change the. focus. I I wanted the um. Granted, I was not. I was not able to chair the committee, but I was. steering the committee, if you know what. I mean. I know what you mean. I mean, it. was. it was. I mean, it was my deal. I was our deal. You know, we got myself and Luna and. Moskowitz and. and Matt Gaetz and the rest of us, we'd. sort of formulated this idea way back.

and and you know, and and pushed it. together and tried to get a date and. locked them down and just kept hammering. them. And then, of course, the UFO. community, it's. it's freaking worldwide, man. I. I do. every weekend, I'm always on I try not. to turn anybody down. I do a lot of. these podcasts and stuff overseas and. England. I mean, I do them from. Knoxville, Tennessee. I don't travel. much, as you can imagine. Um but I um. But yeah, it's it's it's huge and people. all over the country contacted the. speaker's office, apparently, and the.

other members and then. lo and behold, we got that first that. first one and then now they want to do. another, so. I'll take it as a win. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. What was the What was the. conversations that sparked this whole. thing within Congress? It all started with um TMZ. It started. with TMZ. You know who they are, right? who they are. Well, their cameraman's a buddy of mine. and he's a uh. we're good buddies and I took him to.

lunch the other day, as a matter of. fact, and he um. um. he'll sometimes grab me for a quick. quote or something on something off the. wall, you know. And I and I'd followed this UFO report. I knew it what it was going to be and I. knew. I knew it'd just be a redacted piece of. garbage. would be anything look like. somebody shot it with a 12 gauge, you. know, it just be all these spots and. words and nothing put together. Um, and so, uh, um, he, um, uh, reporter says to me, from TMZ, he says,

"Hey, you heard about this UFO report?". You know, it's just kind of random spot, you know, I said, "Yeah." I said, "It's, um, I said, you know, I said, more people. believe in UFOs than believe in. Congress." And he laughed, and that. turned out to be my quote, and I ended. up putting it on a t-shirt that I sell. on my dadgum website, which is kind of. funny. But, but then all of a sudden, I. start getting, and I said, "It's just. going to be redacted, it'll be garbage.". And I, and sure enough, that's what it. was, cuz I said, "Oh, we're going to. release all this stuff." And they ain't. going to release anything. You know,

they won't even release the Kennedy. assassination files, and Kennedy's been. dead over 60 years. There's nobody alive. that's even mentioned in those reports, but it's, it's power, it's control, it's. money, it's. that's Washington, D.C. So, Why do you. think they're holding onto that? Cuz, from what I understand, that, that. report was supposed to be released by. 2017. Mike Pompeo was director of CIA, if I. remember correctly. I know Pompeo. Why. do you think they're holding onto those?

Power, control, money, all those things. I think it's, um, you know, they, they, they put this out. occasionally, and I'm. I'm, I'm a Christian. I try to be a. Christian. I'm not a very good one, but. they always say, you know, it's going to. wreck religious, you know, the religious belief system. Didn't wreck it for me. I, you know, They're already wrecking it anyway. Well, the first chapter of, of Genesis, God created the heavens and the earth. The heavens and the earth. You go to. Ezekiel. Ezekiel saw the wheel. He talks. about a wheel, um, a wheel within a wheel, which you.

would. back, describe what a traditional UFO. would be today, if you were, you know, the saucer thing. But, back then, the. most, um, the most technologically advanced piece. of equipment we had was a wheel. So, he's. equating this. thing and they'll say, "Well, it's a. vision. It's this. It's that." But, you. look at any. any civilization. and, you know, go in hieroglyphics, go. in the the pyramids, um the Aztecs, everybody, the Hindus, everybody has.

these craft in their history that they. talk about. And they And that was way. before Al Gore invented the internet. So, you know, there's no connection. there. So, hold on. You're saying that. there is. So, I'm. You don't know this about me, but I'm a. new Christian. Okay. And so, I'm I am just. Welcome to the club. Thank you. Well, so. this is the Bible I've started the New. Testament. I have not dug into the old. So, you're saying that. UFOs. of Ezekiel.

Go back and read it and then you'll. think you're on acid or something. It's. It's a little But But, if you read it. and and and and realize, too, it's the. King James translation. So, King James, you know, he he translated it from um. Aramaic, I believe. So, I believe it's. what it was. I think that's right. I'm. sure somebody's going to correct me on. that, but I'm I'm not a biblical. philosopher. I just read it. And um. And so, yeah, it's in there and it talks.

about a um. a visitor coming down. It describes the. craft. It describes the. the landing gear. Um. I think it talks about them in some. translations like um. like hooved feet. So, you'd think, you. know, a traditional pad that came comes. down, you know, like you've seen in the. science fiction movies and stuff. But, um. But, yeah, it's in there and it's in all. every religion has it and um but, you. know, and I I say this all the time and. it drives people crazy cuz I repeat. myself a lot, but every night my dad.

come dogs, Buzz, Charlie, and Roscoe. They won't go to the bathroom at 9:00 at. night. They got to get up at 4:30 in the. morning. So, I got to and they're. scratching at the door so trying to get. out. So, I take them. and I go outside. I look at those stars. and and the sky and those stars. the light left those stars some of those. stars before the time of Christ. I mean, that is the vastness of God's great. universe. And honestly, do you think we're the. best that God can do? No. No. So,

I I just we're very imperfect and um. and I'm not worried about them. They. don't scare me or anything cuz with that. technology if they could travel at. whatever they travel at or however they. travel it's beyond my comprehension, but. they would have done us in a long time. ago if they wanted to. So, you believe in this 100% zero. doubts? I believe in the Bible. Do you. do you get a lot of flak within Congress. for approaching the subject?

I do and it's. and I suspect some of the friends on. some people on my side they I will use. it against me when they try to run. somebody against me, but um. but I've talked to so many members that. are. pretty high-profile members, brother, that pulled me off to the side and said. man, I believe in these things. I want. to tell you what something happened to. me when I was in the military or I when. I was a kid out in the field somewhere. or I was. you know, and let me tell you what my. wife told me. You know, that she saw or my husband or.

whatever. Very many members and they. don't want to come testify because they. don't want the heat and I don't care. I. really don't. You know, they're not. going to. uh I don't I don't know. That's not even on the list of of my. worries right now. Um. I just think I think the government. needs to be transparent. Me, too. And we'll get into all this. Everybody that comes on the show gets a. gift. So. All right. This is your gift, Congressman. Thank. you. I have to make sure it's legal. It.

is. You know. You checked it. Okay, okay. It's it's it's legal. So that So we're. real big on mental health here. I am, too. And so Awesome. these are That's performance mushrooms. There's a coffee in there that's got. uh functional mushrooms in it. And then. there's a creamer Wow. also that uh also. has benefits of functional mushrooms and. adaptogens in it. And so. Anyways, it's from Laird Superfood. They. got the cleanest ingredients.

You. Appreciate that, brother. My um. some of my closest friends are suffer. from mental issues. In Tennessee, one in. five Tennesseans either. either you or you know somebody. And if. you don't know somebody, you probably. do. You just don't know it. I've dealt. with them. I've passed a lot of legislation in. Tennessee on funding for taking care of. folks. It's a You know, you you cut your. hand. and nobody thinks anything about going. to the emergency room. Something going. on inside your head, you know, there's a.

stigma attached and we can and there's. things out there I think that we can do. to to fix it. And we got to And one of. the things we do to fix it is remove the. stigma. Yep. I'm with you 100%. But um moving on. So let me give you a. quick introduction. Once again, Congressman Tim Burchett Burchett uh. Congressman of Tennessee District 2. since 2019. You started in local. politics. You're the mayor of Knox. County, Tennessee. Right here. You're Southern Baptist. Uh got into the.

state politics. And now you're at the. federal level uh obviously in Congress. since 2019. And. you were the catalyst behind the. first-ever UAP UFO congressional. hearing, which is what we're dying to. dig into today. So I wanted to get you. right after the hearing, but I know. you're you're a busy guy. We couldn't. make it happen. No, I honestly I think. it's better that we waited a little bit. because more things have developed. So. But kind of diving.

just right off the bat I'm We talked. about this in your office after the. committee or after the hearing in DC. And. I've been. I'm new at the UFO UAP. zero point energy Yeah. uh. genres well. And. I've been really trying to dive in and. one thing that I've noticed in this. subject matter is that and you vocalized. it perfectly in your office, but it.

seems like there are. a couple of resident experts on the. subject but none of these experts talk. to each other. It's very. compartmentalized. And it's it is. at least for me it is extremely hard. to figure out. who is actually a resident expert. who just says they are. And And another thing is, why aren't. these experts talking to each other? If.

the common goal here is disclosure. which it seems everybody's beating to. the same drum here. They want. disclosure. They want disclosure. They. want disclosure, but none of these guys. are talking to each other. How do we know who. who's the real deal, who isn't, or maybe. they're all the real deal and they just. What How are you guys deciphering who. the real resident experts are? That's why I don't you know jump on the.

first train that comes down the tracks. Um. I feel like there's some false flags. Feel like some people have briefed me on. stuff that's not accurate, but they. think it's accurate. Okay. So, they they can oath up to their. knowledge. it's real. And um. I think it is. further discredit. the UFO community and the people that. are out there. I really do. I think that the um. you know, I don't trust government. I. don't trust government. That's Yeah,

I've been in it my whole life and I. don't trust it. And uh cuz it's uh. there's a group of folks that inherently. they're power-hungry and they're evil. and they don't they don't share yours. and my values. And. whatever that is, you know, and. and you can talk about the. compartmentalization. of this stuff and how do you keep. something like that sacred? Well, I'm in. I live in Knoxville, Tennessee. And I back up to Oak Ridge National. Laboratory. And there's 6,000 people.

that work at Oak Ridge that live in my. district that I represent, but Oak Ridge. is not in my district, but Oak Ridge is. where they developed the atomic bomb. Is. it? Yes, sir. Um. and so um. well, one of them anyway. Um so. I can't remember if it's Fat Man or. Little Boy, but anyway, doesn't matter. Uh. I was I knock on doors. That's how I got. elected. Cuz people like Tim Burchett. don't usually get elected to Congress, dude. They don't have I don't have any.

any rec- any great record. I was not a. sports star or anything. Captain of the. 1982 Bearden High School football team, but we went five and five. You might. have heard of me. I was slow, but I couldn't catch. But um. so I knock on doors. I knock on thousands of doors. And uh used to say if you want to be. Burchett, you better just break his legs. cuz that's that's the way I do. And I was knocking on this old guy's. doors. An old man. older man and he was. he's putting his flag out when I came.

by. It was a Saturday morning. And I was talking to him. I said, "You a. veteran?" And he said, "No." And he was. kind of act- a little embarrassed. And I Yeah, I didn't push it and I said. He said, "I worked at Oak Ridge during. the war.". And I said, "Really?". And he said, "Yeah." And I said, "Well, I said I and and I and I hugged him. I. said, "Listen, brother. I said, if it. wasn't for you, I said, my dad was on. Okinawa. They were getting ready to. invade mainland Japan. Cuz first Marine Division would have. spearheaded it in there.

And I said, you know, and Truman said. there'd been a million casualties. I mean, the kids were sharpening sticks. It was going to be brutal. That island. fighting and you know, backed them up. into their own homeland. They had the. the suicide subs and the kamikazes and. they were loaded up. Well, we dropped the bomb. And dad ended up he had to go to China. after the war and fought the communists. for a short while. And then um. but my point was he said, you know, I I. worked on the bomb.

when I was there. He said, "I worked on. a fuse." He said and he said, "You know, oddly enough, my wife. I was I didn't I wasn't married to her. at the time. She worked down the hall. and she worked on a um. a fuse mechanism.". And he said, "And we never knew what. each of us did.". Mhm. You got a couple of thousand people. maybe working at Oak Ridge National. Laboratory. Maybe maybe less than a. handful knew that it was for the atomic. bomb, knew what they were doing. That's what compartmentalization's all.

about. Nowadays, everybody's got a. dadgum cell phone. Everybody's going to. do a book deal or something. It's not. quite like that. So, you have to so my. my theory on and premise on this is the. people that knew, like '47 Roswell, the. people that knew they compartmentalized. it. It's a different America then. Well, a lot of those people are dead. So, there's a complete disconnect after it's. been handed off to this department or. this department and now it's in. corporate in some corporate vault. somewhere. that has a quasi-governmental.

relationship. So, that we can't get to through FOIA. Mhm. So, um. I think and I know that's a long way to. explain it, but but that's that's that's. why they keep this stuff secret. That's. how they keep this stuff secret. Now, it's either one or two things. Either. they're they they've got they're. breaking the technology out and that's. why we're seeing some advances now, or. they've got it and they realize that. the power brokers in this world will no. longer be in the oil business. They will.

no longer be in the they'll have to get. out and get an honest job like the rest. of us. Well, Congress isn't necessarily. an honest job, but you get my point. So, um. I think it's kind of multi-faceted. It. can go in a lot of different directions. But, two. it I you know, I ride motorcycles as I. told you. I and I got an old Harley. Sportster. It's my dad's. It's '84. It's. the newest bike I have. I'm. sentimentally attached to it. I won't. get rid of it. But, um. but if I took that Harley. and took it to the people on the.

Mayflower, gassed it up, loaded it up, got it all ready, took it back in time. That's basically what would happen with. a UFO. They would see this bright shiny. object. They might be able to roll it. You know, one day they might get it. started, but they're not going to know. how to change the plugs. They're not. going to be able to adjust the. carburetors. They won't have the. technology to make gasoline to run it. They you know, they won't know how to. put air in the tires. And that's sort of. like what we're at, I think, with this. stuff. If we've get where we have it and. who has it. I just think the technology.

part of it is they can't get to it and. some of it they've got and are not. sharing. Interesting. Interesting. How did you How many How many of those. whistleblowers did you guys have? I'd say we probably I don't know. I had. a list of them, but you know, we. Pentagon one one person confided in us. that they gotten a call from the. Pentagon and they decided not to come. and one of them was loosely attached to. some group with NASA and they were going. to do their own thing, which we had a. meeting with them this week, which was.

bogus. Um. and and two, now government Now, you got. to realize government. Chuck Schumer's. coming out with a bill on the NDAA, the. National Defense Author- Reauthorization. Act, um. that will say that oh, you know, and all. the UFO people are going crazy. This is. the greatest thing in the world. They're. going to create this entity within. government, within the Pentagon, that anything to do. with the UFOs. goes to them, and they decide if it gets. out. So, and guess what? If it's a national.

defense issue, or if it's a government. security issue, or whatever, they won't. release it. Well, guess what? All of it. is. They're never going to release that. That just puts another layer. All I'm. saying is, brother, I can handle it, you. can handle it. Put it out there. Let us. see it. Let us see it. Cuz I've seen. some stuff. that defies any kind of logic, any kind. of. science. that we have now. Like what? What have. you seen? You've You've personally seen. it? I've I've I've not seen the the videos, of course. I mean, not not in the air.

Everything I've seen has been definable. Okay. When I was a kid, I remember saw a um. uh. I live in Knoxville, we got an airport. there, and we got Air Force Base, and a. jet was taking off, and I remember I was. just like looking at the tail section of. it, and it was. And to me, it just look, you know, I. thought there's a saucer, you know, it's. at night. Kind of freaked me out, but. then as. then I I I looked into it, and I. thought, well, that guy, I'm looking at. the back end of a jet. So, I've never. seen anything, but that doesn't mean it.

I've never seen God, but that doesn't. stop me from believing in him, either. Yeah. Well, there was a Correct me if I'm. wrong, but I believe there was a window. where there was there could be no. repercussions for somebody blowing the. whistle on this stuff. That window is. That I think that's bogus. That window. is closed now, correct? Yeah. Well, they were allowed to do it. I think they still can, but I don't. believe any of it. It's like my. my pilots have told me um. They've told me that, you know, they. Here's what happens. You you spot.

something, I report it. I'm pulled off. the flight line and I might be getting. some uh terminology. So, I'm not You're. a military guy, so if I'm correct me. They're pulled off the flight line. They are debriefed, what is turns out. they they said they were interrogated. for 8 hours. They get this on their record. They get. made fun of and they get you know, and I. I literally had a pilot tell me that. they've destroyed. uh video evidence. because they don't want to have to go.

through all that. Wouldn't surprise me. And and you know, and and and what are these guys. literally and the ones that come. forward? I mean, all they're going to. get is abuse. I mean, look at David. Grusch. Have you faced any retaliation. or reprisals for any of your testimony. or anything. on these lines? Yeah, I have to be careful what I say in. detail because there is an open. whistleblower reprisal investigation on. my behalf and I don't want to compromise. that investigation. by providing anything that may.

uh help provide somebody information. But, it was very brutal and very. unfortunate some of the tactics they. used to. hurt me both professionally and and. personally to be quite frank. Yeah. It's. very unfortunate. As I say, when you're. up the target, that's when they do the. most fi- firing at you. Do you have any. personal knowledge of people who've been. harmed or injured in efforts to cover up. or conceal these extraterrestrial. technology? Yes. Personally.

Have you heard if anyone been murdered. that you would think that you know of or. have heard of, I guess? I have to be. careful asking that question. I directed. people with that knowledge to the. appropriate authorities. Maybe in a we. could. get it get in a um. confidential area skiff, we could talk. about that. But, unfortunately. um we were denied access to the skiff. And that's very unfortunate in this in. this scenario. They made fun of him. They leaked that. he had PTSD and they did it legally.

What happened was somebody that he had. gotten. into some dispute and it's a maybe a. domestic issue. I'm not sure. And um but they got it all worked out. but they um. um there was a report in some little. town somewhere. So, somebody in the intelligence. community found out about it. They. waited till after his testimony see what. he said and he brought out all this. stuff that we we've talked about for. years and then and I've talked to people.

and in and out of and around the. intelligence community about it and they. um um. you know, they they brought this thing. out and then it was a a police report. cuz you can't release medical records. cuz of HIPAA. Mhm. And um and so they bring this out and. then you know, he's got PTSD. Now, let. me tell you something. Only in. Washington, D.C. can you can you be critical of somebody. for PTSD? Cuz brother, that doesn't fly. here in Tennessee. Yeah. Man, we we.

celebrate veterans. At at least in in. East Tennessee, we do. In my hometown, we do. And um. you know, this it's just to me it's. beyond belief the way what they've done. Yeah, you know, I I remember when that. came out. I. I made a comment saying, well, if you're. going to discredit somebody for PTSD, then you can no longer. credit any policeman, any firefighters, any first responders, any woman that's. been raped, My dad. that's been raped, any veteran, anybody.

Yeah. It's It's just goes out the. window. And and that and that alone is the. reason why we should have been able had. that select committee cuz he was a. whistleblower and and and he was pub. tried they tried to publicly shame him. Well, part of the hearing. was about government intimidation and I. can't remember if it was you or another. congressman that that asked, you know, has anybody been murdered Yeah. uh for for for blowing the whistle or. coming forward on this nice I got nice.

mice, yeah. But um. But um. and then. sure. what a month, maybe a couple weeks. after, they start they start the PTSD. group. I knew it was going to happen and that. tells you we're right over the target. Yep. And it blew up in their face. I. kept thinking it's like Br'er Rabbit, man. Don't throw me in that briar patch. and they sure as hell did and they they. pulled back a nub. But you know, we were. warned about Grusch by one of our. staffers. You know, you've got.

What was the warning? Uh you know, that. he's not a legitimate thing and you. know, you need to and that's you know, everybody is compromised in Washington, brother. We're compromised. The Russians. used to use what's called honey pots, you know, they'd. you'd travel somewhere and some. attractive person, man or female or. whatever, you know, they used to do it a. lot with with gay folks because they. could intimidate because back the stigma. being a homosexual and now there's no. stigma attached to it. But they would. set them up, they'd film it and then you.

know, you're getting ready to make a key. vote. somebody comes, hey man. heard about you in that motel room on. you know, whatever and they go. what? And he said, yeah, I said, man, we. don't need that to get it. Oh man, I. don't want that out there, ruin my. family. That's okay, man, we just need. your vote on this. Oh, you got it, you. got it. You know, and that's that's how they own. your ass and um. and they do it through jobs, they do it. through you know, trips they you know, it doesn't have to be. sexual in nature.

Um It's just traps. It's just traps, yeah. And um you know, as I say, no. man's an island and they figure out they. analyze you, they know what they got and. these. and these staffers are they are the. swamp, some of them are. They run too. much of it and we allow it. We all see it. Well, I guess I don't I. shouldn't say we all see it, but a lot. of us see it. But, um back to the. back to the whistleblowers. I would. imagine that just within that window.

where it was okay to come out and and. and bring information forward on the UAP. stuff, I would imagine you guys had. thousands of whistleblowers that wanted. to appear in front of Congress. I don't. know all the numbers, but I it it's a. day-to-day occurrence. How did you How. did you. How did you. and the rest of the team that you had. assembled, how did you guys. decide on which three you wanted? It.

wasn't. You know, we we cast a pretty. broad net. And, you know, we probably. I don't know, 15 or 20 targets that I. knew of that would be good in certain. areas. And then they just kept whittling it. down and I didn't want 15 or 20. I. didn't want a cattle call because it's. not, you know, it's not conducive to the. issue. I wanted people with first-hand. knowledge is what I wanted. And military. to me is the ticket. Yeah. And I knew if. they discredited Grusch, we had these.

two pilots. They got nothing Why would they want to. endanger their the reputation of their. career? I mean, you know, by coming out. with this. They have no alter ulterior. motives. And, um. and so. you know, a little prodding and they. came forward and they and they told a. great story. Mr. Graves, again, I'd like to know, um how do you. know that these were not our aircraft? Some of the behaviors that we saw in a.

working area, we would see these objects. being at 0.0 mach, that's zero air. speed, over certain pieces of the ground. So, what that means, just like a river, if. you throw a bobber in, it's going to. float downstream. These objects were. staying completely stationary in. category 4 hurricane winds. These same. objects would then accelerate to. supersonic speeds, 1.1, 1.2 mach, and. they would do so in very erratic and. quick behaviors that we don't I don't. have an explanation for. Okay. Have you. spoken to commercial military pilots.

that seen these off of our East Coast? I. have. Okay. So, just just like Grusch wasn't even there. Two military pilots, best in the world, best trained, best aircraft, everything. Sworn testimony, swear to God, uh and they. and before Congress. and that that they had chased a craft. And it was and they all said, "This is.

nothing that we have. This it And it's. not our And I will say this. Everybody. says, 'Well, it's probably Russia. It's. probably China.'" I mean, you're a. military guy. If Russia had that, would. they be bogged down in in Ukraine? And. if China had that, would they they don't us more than they. do now? Yeah. And so, there there's no The only other. alternative is. it's something we've reverse engineered, which means it's something we've. recovered. and are flying it around in in our. military space, or it's something.

from outer space. Either way, either. way, it's something from outer space. I. mean, I don't I don't think that there. is any way that. any other country is more. technologically advanced than we are. I. mean, we invented electricity, we. invented the light bulb, we invented the. internet, we invented the phone, we invented the nuclear. bomb. What else did we invent? We. I mean, all the we invented the Ford. may I'm sort of a detractor, but.

you know, that's another thing. When you. when you said that how technologically. advanced it reminds me of the first. hearing that they had when I was there. of the intelligence committee which was. open to the public. It's kind of. intelligence committee is kind of like a. little fraternity. They keep stuff. within and it's supposed to be secret. and stuff and all that. So, they open this thing up. They're going. to have this big UFO UAP hearing. I'm. the only congressman that shows up. They. bring in these two guys. from the Pentagon and honestly, I don't. think they could spell UFO. They didn't.

have a clue. And that goes back to my. compartmentalization. They were telling. the truth as far as they knew it. They. were asked several questions about. well-documented UFO instance. One of. them was a case where um. UFOs responded and a nuclear reactor. literally shut down. And it's a. documented case that these things were. spotted in the same period of time in. this country. So, we were asked about it. They asked about it. They didn't have a. clue. They didn't have a clue. And I remember they showed this video.

which is which was. the worst video they could have shown. It was a I think it was a one of these. crazy aluminum balloons, you know, that. fly that you know, you you're not. aluminum but they look metallic, you. know, they have a metallic surface to. them cuz when they hit electrical wire. they'll they'll they'll short it. But it. was up at high speeds. and this. um. pilot was filming it with his cell. phone. You know, not his cameras but his cell.

phone as he's flying by at some crazy. speed. And. and you couldn't tell if it honestly if. it was the um. um. if it was the the the a shadow in the. inside of the canopy of the airplane or. this other object. I could we could and. it and then I remember of all I remember. it was asked um Adam Schiff of all. people asked the best question. Said, "What exactly am I looking at?". And said, "Can you slow that thing. down?" And it was a 20-second film. Most.

technologically advanced country in the. world and they couldn't slow down. Isabel Barchett, my little girl could. have slowed that dadgum video down and. they but they couldn't slow it down to. show us and they didn't know what they. were even looking at and you've got the. Tic Tac videos not Tik Tok like the. Chinese Communist Tic Tac like the candy. and they had one of the pilots that was. involved in it in the audience and he. was not even allowed to come testify. What? So yeah, so he had gotten in with. press credentials. Cuz I'm talking to.

the guy out there. And so. you know and and I walk by the press and. I was told another thing I was told I. was going to get to ask a question. And I'm still amazed at this. And I'm. easing towards the thing and I get a. text from one of the guys on the member. on the Republicans hey Barchett, you. know, sorry, you know, you're not you're. not going to be able to ask a question. Cuz I was going to rip them a new one. cuz I knew a little bit more about this. and they weren't paying attention. They. didn't care. They were just doing it to. check a box. Say we're we're looking.

into it, you know, and I had one of the. members say, you know, we got more. important things to do than this. I said. more important than. a $60 million aircraft which you've. stated we've had 14 near miss incidents. with the best trained pilots in the. world and we don't know what the hell it. is in our own airspace. So I walk by the. press and they said. what do you think about this. Congressman? They are all kind of joking. about it. I go we got hosed. Boom. They turned on me. Not turned on me, you. know, they they turned to me and I did. and I talked about what what you what it.

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always consult with a financial. professional before making any. investment decisions. Yeah. You know, with the. I would like I'll give you the option. Do you want to unpack the hearing last. or do you want to unpack. care, brother. Whatever is easiest to. you. I know it all. I. I I've relived it all. Well, you are. super knowledgeable on a lot of the. events that happened. So, I'm going to.

have you unpack them for the audience. cuz we don't know everything. And uh. let's talk about Roswell and what. happened there. All right. 1947. Roswell, New Mexico. You got to remember, America, it was not. the Air Force, it was the Army Air. Corps. And that's important because I'm. going to tell you something that. happened to me later in life dealing. with that. Um. a farmer there was a loud explosion. and later the next day a farmer was out. in a. It's paraphrasing all this. Some of this.

might not be. he found some material. He found what he. had said was look it was a saw what we'd. call a traditional flying saucer, but. flying saucer was a was a a terminology. that had been used was wasn't quite. the the terminology, you know. Um. he reported it. The military came in, Army Air Corps at. Roswell. and. they put out military intelligence put. out a press release said saucer.

recovered. Headlines, boom, across the. country. Then the next day. they um they came in. and said. oh, it wasn't a flying saucer. It was a. hot air balloon and they bring this poor. colonel out and he's showing you could. there's famous pictures of him showing. it's clearly a couple of some some kind. of balloon apparatus. So, military. intelligence went from a flying saucer. to a pile of cloth and sticks in one in.

24 hours. And the American public. believed it because. that's what we're trained to do. We. believe our military and we believe the. press back then. And um. so it gets kind of it it covered up and. there's talk of bodies and craft and. everything and um. and then in a chance conversation later. some people were talking about it in the. military and then it then it all just. came out, you know, the the um. some of them had had gotten some of this. material and literally they said you.

could crinkle it up and I've heard this. in other instances and you could throw. it down on a table and it would come. back out to its original shape. Um there. was some of the sticks had hieroglyphics. They said it was a purple hue to it, I. think. Well, the United States Air Force comes. out and I remember it was called a. Roswell case closed is what they called. it. And they had this fat second. lieutenant. He was a smart alec. And. they gave a press conference and they.

said, "No, it was a hot air balloon.". And And they said, "What about the. little people that they found?" Well, 3 years later, 4 years later, we did. some experiments with dummies. We. parachuted dummies down. Um little small dummies and we think the. people just sort of carried this over a. course of 4 or 5 years and they put this. all together into this one story. And. that's what they put out. And I remember. my dad. I talk a lot about my mom and daddy but. and. uh. I'm not God gives us all gifts, I think.

And one gift that my dad had that I have. is um the gift of perception. I said, "What do you think, Daddy?" We. watched that press conference on TV. It. was early days of cable. And Dad said, "That guy was a smart. alec." And I said, "And he didn't know. what he was talking about.". And my dad wasn't a UFO guy or anything. Yeah. Well, I have a truck and trailer business. years later and I'm I was in the state. legislature as part-time in Tennessee.

And I was putting a guy's trailer hitch. on. I remember he had a Jeep. and um he was sitting in my shop with me. and I looked at his tags. It said New. Mexico. I said, "New Mexico?" I said, "You ever heard of Roswell?" He goes, "Yeah. My dad was in the old It was in. the Army Air Corps." He didn't say Air. Force. He said the Air Corps. So, I. said, "Really?". I said, "And I remember I was putting. that thing on." I thought I mean, I was. just like I said I said, "Well, tell me and you heard it Did you. ever Did you ever talk about that UFO.

thing?" He said, "Yeah. As a matter of fact, he did. He said and and and he said, "We always. thought there was a mid-air collision. And there was two. And um. And so, but in Roswell, you'll hear. about this I've pieced this together. They uh we used a different kind of. radio. Um it's electromagnetic something. We. just started experimenting with it. And. apparently. these allegedly these craft, if you hear. of there's always the use of this type.

of whatever it is, I'm not the. scientist, but it you know, apparently. it has some effect on these things. And um. and so we've um. And there was another crash somewhere. else in the world on the same day. Another alleged craft recovery. So, Roswell, New Mexico uh covered up. I. believe that was one of the first ones. that we've But there's been. documentation. There was one at the turn. of the century. Uh an aircraft that. talked about an aircraft down in Texas.

Um which was before you would see an. airplane in the early It was either 1907. or early teens where aircraft were not. that common. And there's been others. But that was the one that everybody kind. of hangs on it. I'm sure there's others. that have been covered up. But I feel like. that. I mean, that's that's what I think. Do you think that. But I think it's been so. compartmentalized, we'll never know the. real story on that. I mean, the those. bodies are said to be in a. if I remember correctly, a blue room.

In Wright-Patterson Air Air Force Base. Wright-Patt, yeah. Um. And I would say and you know, and I. You know, Speaker McCarthy said to me. one day, he said, "Hey man, I'm getting. ready to get a code ale maybe to Air. Force Base one. Would you like to go?". And I said, "Yeah, I'll go." I said, "You're not going to go down there and. see any aliens.". And I said, "You're not going to see. anything else." And he said, "Well, what. do you mean?" I said, "It's just a. tourist trap now. I mean, you know, Congress is going to call and we're. going to go down there and they're going. to open up some vault and show us.

something?". Get real, you know, I mean this this an. and stupidity I guess of of not of not. of the speaker but of just. you know, to think that this group Yeah. They operate dude, they stay very naive. I had a There was an old lobbyist in. Nashville and I always remember his name. is Tom Hensley. He's the golden goose. He since passed away. He's a dear friend. of mine. He was the He's the liquor. lobbyist and I never voted for his bills. but he always loved me cuz he was had a. dear friend from Knoxville guy named Pat.

Scruggs the liquor distributor and. told Tom to be my buddy. So he was my. buddy. And um. and I remember him sitting there at the. Crown Plaza one night and some. young hotshot with the governor's office. is running his mouth and said, "Well, you know, we're going to do this. We're. going to do that." And he I remember he. had his little. um fancy bottle of Jack glass of Jack. Daniels he's smoking this old cigar big. old cigar and. and he drinking and then and the guy. walks off and he said, "Burchett" he. said, "Governors come and go but the old.

goose will be sitting right here." And. that's the way That's the way these guys. are, man. They are sitting They're going. to be sitting there and they're going to. be running this thing. Congressmen come. and go and it just keeps, you know, and. and and the more the longer it takes, the deeper it gets and the more. compartmentalized it gets. So my other. theory on this is. the people that are analyzing these. things don't know what they're. analyzing. How so? They don't know that they're. their craft or they don't know what it's.

for and they just know it's something. that they're they're analyzing. They're. analyzing a piece of metal. They're. analyzing a mechanical apparatus. They. don't know if it's from an aircraft. They don't know if it's from a. submarine. They're not They're not They. don't have to know. They just know they. can't talk about it. Yeah. Help Seems like a lot of things started. happening right around 1947 and a lot of. people believe that the Germans had some. type of advanced technology. Um let's let's get into Project Blue.

Book. Okay. What is Project Blue Book? Project Blue Book was um by the Air. Force and they analyzed um. it was official government program and. they went around and and interviewed and. analyzed um. um UFO sightings and things like that. And they've um. and they were. it was pretty uh. inconclusive. I mean it was a couple. guys driving around interviewing folks. There's one right up here in Kentucky um.

that happened um. there was a. the little people of Kentucky. I um. um. Hopkinsville, I think. You can read. about it. But there's all these things. they analyzed and stuff and and they. really um. they didn't come with any conclusions. And a lot of people think it was a lot. of um false flags, too. Stuff that was. put out there to. um and they would they were meant to. never find anything. You think that was it was it was a. I think the people that knew, yeah,

let's send them out there on this thing. We're not they're not going to show them. anything. We've already got it all. wrapped up. So it was a cover? I think, but the I think the people. involved in it were genuinely concerned. were genuinely concerned. I just don't. you have a government that's told us. since at least since '47 these things. don't exist, but now they're telling us. they exist and they want your money. That's the other thing. They want our. money. They want they want government. the Pentagon. NASA, everybody's going to want money to.

study these things. In the Pentagon report, I think it's 56. pages. Read the first paragraph and said. we're going to use we need you know, I. think use the word robust. You know, I don't know if the robust. resources or whatever to study these. things. It's all about money. It's it's. just. it is taken from you and me. to keep them in power. I mean, they're. definitely very the government's. definitely very interested in it. I. mean, are you do you know who uh Brandon. Fugal is by chance, owner of Skinwalker.

Ranch? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I Yeah, I know. all about I know all about that, sure. I. mean, they have they have. what they believe is government. intimidation happening. They keep flying. Blackhawks and and CH-47s over the. property. They found out one of the. members on the scientific team, uh Travis Taylor, is a plant from the. Pentagon who is on the UAP UFO I can't. remember what program. Do you know. anything about that stuff?

Yeah. What do you know about it? Well, and see that that's where I go back. I. just don't trust anybody in this thing. I mean, I I I just I just want to get. the get it all out there and then let's. decide. I was um. So, I I I get a call from somebody and. and they want to come talk to me in the. office. And I was like, well, that's. cool. Okay, whatever. You know, we'll. set it up and they come in and. and I recognize. some of the folks.

And there's there's. more than one there. And I get introduced to everybody and I. said, well, who's that back there? And they said, he's not here. And I said, okay. So, I don't know, you know, that that. that got me a little. And and sometimes these guys won't come. in the building to see me. So, I don't know if it's a. you know, if they're government entities. that you know, that are trying to, you. know,

um X-File me, you know, claim it, you. know, they're going to give me a bunch. of garbage and so that I'll come out. with it and discredit me. That's why I. just, you know, I just put it I don't. care. I'll tell you everything that I. know, mostly about that I can tell you. And then um. you know, and I and so it's just um. to me it's uh Who are these people? Okay, well, back to the Wait a minute. Hang on. Let's say the Skinwalker Ranch. so they said there's some people that. like to come see you. And I said, "Okay." And I I don't watch.

all these TV shows. I just I just don't. I just don't cuz I don't cuz it's just. it's just a rabbit hole. It's like, you. know, going down this we're going to. we're going to find next week we're. going to do this, you know, and then. next week it's, you know, It's like the Oak Island mystery, you. know. It's like the most watched show on. History Channel but they every year it's. like get there and then we'll see y'all. next year, you know, it's. It's like who shot J.R.? And so. I'm showing my age. But.

so I get they said. these guys want to come see me and I. said, "Well, that'd be great." I said, "Just tell them come on up to the. office." No, they don't want to come to. the office. Was this the Skinwalker. crowd? Okay. So. See, you believe in my deal. That was. going to spring it on you so you go, "Wow." So, I'm at my house. It's a. Saturday. And um. They come in and they they they. I hit the gate button. They're inside. and I get out and I look at them and I.

go, "That guy, man. That's the guys from. that TV show.". And they. came in and I gave them all a Dr. Pepper. and we watched some stuff and we talked. about some stuff. But you know, I. There's a lot of competition within the. UFO community, too. A lot of people. selling books. A lot of people have. podcasts. And there's so there's and there's a lot. of animosity between the groups. And my. I see my job not as taking sides. cuz I don't. you know, I don't I don't know what the.

truth is really on all of it. I just. want to I know there's something else. out there and I know that some of it's a. diversion. Some of it's a false flag. But some of it, you know, I. A guy I've known most of my adult life. told me about an incident that happened. to him in the Navy. He saw me on the He. saw me on the um one of the UFO shows or. something and he called me. And uh. he told me about an incident. It just. this thing flew over him on a on they. were on a um.

Let's see. What's a tin can? You're the. navy guys. I had a destroyer. Oh. I never spent any time on a ship in the. Navy. Well, good. Okay. Well, anyway, anyway, they were out and I believe they uh the. Mediterranean and um. and a uh. this thing just flew over the top of. them. Just out It did So, it was big as. a He said, "Remember he said, I swear to. you it was it was two blocks wide if it. was a foot.". And he said it was a.

said they saw it coming in and you know, it had the dome on the top and it was. saucer-shaped and he said it just stayed. above them. No noise and they just stood. there and looked at it. And it just took off like that. No. noise. And then they were just like, "What the. heck was that?" you know. And then they. they get back in port. and here comes the guys in the suits. telling us this is a national security. issue. You're not to talk about this. You'll go to the federal penitentiary.

He'll He'll see you down at Leavenworth. for the rest of your dadgum lives. And. he said, "This is and we mean it. Don't. talk about this to anybody." Wow. And. here it happened in the '50s. And you know, and the guy that called me. and he's and he's since called me back. again. And he told me the same story. I mean, it was identical. Everything he said was. identical. You know, it reminded me of my mama. You. ask her what time it was, she'd tell you. how to make the clock you know, before. she'd give you the time and it was that. kind of it was that kind of detail. He.

told me the weather, what was going on. around them, where he it standing, you. know, the just everything. It was just. too specific. And again, you know, you can see all this. this footage of all these different. things. Why would he lie to me? Yeah. Why would Gordon Cooper, Gordo Cooper, one of the most famous astronaut Apollo. astronauts of all time, he describes an instant where you said. Wright-Patterson. They filmed a you can watch the videos, and he describes it. He said they're. sitting there and they're just they're.

and they filmed it. A craft comes in, a. saucer, landing gear comes out. It does. I'm not sure if anybody got out of it. I'm not sure what I can't remember all. of it, but. and then it landing gear goes up, it. takes off. And they're like, just what the hell was. that? And they filmed it. Send it to Wright-Patt. They called the. next day, and they said, "We don't know. what you're talking about.". Now, this guy, I mean, you know, the original Apollo. astronauts, I mean, they're heroes. I. mean, those guys they everybody knew who.

they were. Everybody I mean, they had. trading cards, they gave them Corvettes, you know. He could have walked in any. Sizzlin' Steakhouse in the world, and. they'd have bought him the best steak in. the house. Go in any bar, everybody buy. him a beer, you know. I mean, this guy. Gordo Cooper, man, he was in The Right. Stuff. I mean, they they talked about. him. He mean, he he was portrayed in it. But, you know, I can all this these photos and stuff. But, when a guy like that says. something, Yeah. to me that that means. it. Well, let's uh. I mean, you've met.

I'm fairly certain you've met everybody. I know within the UFO UAP crowd. What. what kind of stuff were you talking. about with the Skinwalker? They had some footage, and they talked. about. and I'd ask them where they thought it. came from and. and the different. And one of them said some things to me. I was a little I wasn't skeptical of it. It was just you know, it wasn't. and I wouldn't even call it on the. fringe, but I hear it talked about, and.

I I didn't. I don't really put much into all that, you know. it? Uh just, you know, the grays, the. you know, the the different the. different aliens and things and they. were talking about where they possibly. came from and. and um Where do they think they came. from? Uh there was a. solar system outside of ours and I can't. even remember the name of it now, but. again, that doesn't. that doesn't really fit into my thing. If we've got.

show me the dadgum footage and then. we'll we'll we'll figure out that from. there because there's no way you're. talking about something that's traveled. light-years to get here. I just. you know, that's beyond my. comprehension. Yeah. And there's people. that think that they think themselves. there. They're so far advanced. that they can think themselves there. And you know, I don't I'm not critical. of anybody's beliefs on that stuff. because it doesn't it doesn't affect. what I think is my job as a congressman.

is to get the facts out there. Just get. show the footage. If you got bodies, show it to us. If you got the saucer, show us the dadgum saucers. I want I'd. like to I think the American public. needs to see that stuff. What is what do. they gain out of making contact with you. and and and and. I mean, it's we just kind of went over. what they're talking to you about, but. what is what's the point? Why are they. coming to I think they that I can get it. out. And that's what I worry about somebody. within one of these government agencies. trying to discredit me by giving me.

false information. Cuz we get. I'd say I I I dare say I've had hundreds. of calls from people and people will. send me photos of. you know, I can't see anything in it. And some of them. some look fairly legit, but it could be. AI generated. I don't know. Mhm. And um. you know, and somebody will say, "Look. at my YouTube video of this and that and. me talking about this, you know." I just. don't have time. I just I mean, I've a. I'm a congressman. I've got constituent. I've got Yeah. VA issues, I've got dog.

barking issues, you know, I've even got. everything. I mean, it's it's. Yeah, I have nearly uh. uh about eight counties, seven and a. sliver off of one. Uh you know, I. represent a lot of people, and there's a. lot of issues, and I so I have to deal. with all that, and I've got People have. been very kind to send me nice books. about UFOs, stuff they've written, their. encounters, and you know, and I just. and I I try to glance through them and. put them on and I I got a collection of. them now. Yeah. They all have real nice. inscriptions, apparently that I have a. somebody I won't say my stature, but.

somebody in Congress would actually talk. about this has validated them, I think. in some ways, and I think that's cool. I'm If I could provide somebody with a. little hope, and. more than half the population believes. something else out there. I'd say. there's probably a lot more than that. even that and the polls show just. because people don't trust polls and are. afraid to answer them. Yeah. I mean, who else have you met with that I. believe you've met with Dr. Steven Greer. as well. I know Steven pretty well. He. came over and um. he sent me a nice book, which I have.

looked at. Um. had dinner with him one one day. He's jacked. He's He's pretty muscular. guy. Um. Luis Elizondo Elizondo, whatever. I. can't even say his name. What did you. What did Steven Greer want to talk to. you about? Just um. about how the. uh. He's involved with um. This is what he tells me, that uh some.

military outfits that are. going in and going to get some of these. craft, get them out. And um. more or less. And uh. you know, I. I don't know. I don't know civilians are. messing with special ops. I don't know. I mean, they're operators. I don't know. what all's going on with that, but he. talked to me a little bit about that and. and some other things. And uh What is it that he wants you to.

do with that information? I don't know other than just to know it. and just share it maybe and to say that. this is it's real, but he has a. different, you know. Everybody has a different belief in this. thing. Yeah. And. there again, I don't. I just believe something else is out. there. I'm not I don't I don't get into. all that. I don't I don't condemn them. for it. I don't. you know, I've got buddies of mine that. are Jewish. I got buddies of mine that. are Hindu. I've got some Muslim friends,

you know, I don't I don't condemn them. Maybe not believe it cuz I'm a. Christian, Yeah. but I don't I don't. condemn them for it. I don't think it's. my job to do that or stand in judgment, but I I usually just. honestly, I just contain it. I just put. it in my head and then um. because. really all I see my my job as a. congressman is just to be transparent, just to get it out there. Yeah. And by doing so, I think I validate a.

lot of people cuz a lot of these folks. get abused about this stuff and they're. afraid to say anything about it. Mhm. You know, I've walked on. elevator, walked on airplanes and I. walked by first class. I had this dude. was sitting there and he's pretty well. put together. You could tell that that, you know, I'm sitting in the middle of. my wardrobe right now. You could tell. that guy he was he was dressed pretty. well and uh. and he's sitting there and he just had. to he's kind of confident. You can kind. of read dig the vibe what they're up to. I can when somebody and he says uh.

he says, "Congressman." I go, "Yes, sir." You know, about that UAP issue. It. was early on. I thought he's going to. give me one of those, "Don't we have. anything better to do?" or "Don't you. you know?" And I'll say honestly, it's. in the purview. I didn't choose this. issue. It kind of chose me, you know. Kevin McCarthy came to me and said. I said something to him about it and he. came to me and said, look, it's your. baby. Or, you know, that's what Chairman. Comer said. And so, walking by this cat, he's about that UAP. issue. And I thought, well, here it. comes. He said,

really appreciate you looking into that. And I go, really? He said, yeah. He said, uh, said, have you Have you ever had a some. sort of encounter? He goes, yeah, I. have. I just I said, I can't explain it. I said, all right. Thank you. And I get that a lot. I get that a lot. Used to be when I was, um, I used to. kind of be the. in Tennessee, I would I was I wasn't the. patron saint. I don't know what you call. it, but mental health was my issue. And. I brought it up everywhere. Everywhere I. went. And I always knew after it's over.

with, it's always the person you never. suspect. Say, hey, my kid's got an issue with this or my. wife does or my husband does or I do or. whatever and I appreciate you bringing. it up. Now, it's the same way with with. the UFO issue or UAP. Wow. And it's, um, you know, I can walk through a mall. and people cut up and make fun of it and. they'll say something. I've had. congressmen say something, hey Merchant, are you going to fly off on a UFO or. something smart aleck like that and I. just laugh, you know, I don't care.

And I'm walking and then they'll circle. around and go, hey man, I was just kidding about that, all. right? And when I was a kid one time, I was. standing out in the middle of a field. and this thing came over me and I said, I swear to you I I. you know, I still to this day, I mean, I've had multiple Congress people tell. me this. Wow. And I've had civic leaders. and. it's from all over. And people will call. me from all over the country. And they're. saying as you or me, military, a lot of. military people. Um, had a guy tell me one time he was on.

a fishing boat and, um, it kind of. reminded me that he described the craft. as the same similar as the one that I. was talking to. He said this. and he would describe where he was. I think he was out the Gulf Coast and a. lot of activity seemed to be Gulf Coast. centered. Um. near Eglin and all that down there. So, he. he said they were fishing and he just. grabbed the boat, you know, and that. they were going after and him and his. buddy and they were. he was in the Air Force at the time and. they were off duty or whatever and.

and um. and they and they saw this. craft just fly over them. He said, you. know, and when he was describing it I. could I could you know, my mind's eye. pictured it. And then. and it just it didn't make a noise. And. then they and then they heard this. and he described it whatever F-16, you. know, cuz he was a pilot and he said it. was two F-16s or whatever chasing it. And they and they remember he said, you. know, I sort of thought I said that. thing those F-16s are about, you know,

100 I mean, he's described that they. were very minuscule in size compared to. this thing. And this thing and then it just took. off. And it didn't make a noise. And then. those jets are just still just. you know, and you know, he kind of he said after. it was over with he thought about it he. sort of laughed internally cuz he's. like, what the heck are they going to do. to that thing? Yeah. And so, you know, this is a guy called me and um this was. actually and this actual incident was. written up in a it's called. uh one of these UFO groups written it up. as one of their.

one of their. top sightings. of. the decade or something. This was way. back I think maybe in the 70s or. something that this occurred, but. you know, it's just every day, brother. Every day. I can't. I try to return all my calls and people. call me, but it's almost un. I I just can't I can't I can't I just. got too many of those. Yeah, I can't imagine the amount of uh. I can't imagine you have the bandwidth. to go through all of that. But um.

Lou Elizondo. he's somebody I've tried to get on here. numerous times and uh it's like. I don't think it's going to happen. But, what did what did he want to talk to you. about? Just about. Cuz this guy's. supposedly very. They claimed they didn't have this. organization, and yet he was on the he. was he was that organization. $11. million, I think, funded, I believe, at. that time, um, that funded it was a senator out of,

uh, Nevada, Democrat, um, and he was part of the. Skinwalker Ranch thing, too, the. research there the federal government. did there. Um, and he headed up that department. And. they said, you know, basically it doesn't exist, and then, sure enough, there he was. He. was running it. And again, you know, the. the tail does the tail doesn't know what. the the rest of the the body's doing, you know, and it's just, uh, and that's that's government. That's. compartmentalized government. That's.

it's just too big. So, what did what did. he want to talk to you about? I think Lou. he's he's a dear friend, actually. Is. he? Yes, he is. He, um, we stay in contact pretty regular, not. telepathically, but, um, he, uh, I think he just wanted to encourage me. He just said, "Lou, you know, you're. you're on the right path on this thing, dude. You're the you're, you know, and. and, um, and I and I I've talked to him. periodically about ideas I've had and.

people, if I think that they are. legit or these stories, and you know, I. say, "I sort of got this feeling on this. one here." And I don't know that I trust. Lou, cuz he was with the government, but. I do, uh, as much as I trust any of these cats, but he's he's not he has not lied to me. yet. He's not steered me wrong. And, uh, you know, he's he's the real deal, and, um, you know, he was kept. as a lot of them are, he was probably a. I I know that he was.

I don't know he put his hands on. anything physically. But he probably kept at arms length it. you know, when he would get close they. would move it or do something else. Yeah. Have you met with Chris Mellon? Chris Mellon is the What is What's his. title? He's another He's another prominent. figure in this space. I know he is. Matter of fact, I'd like. to get him for the committee actually. I. know I know I know he is. Sure I do.

Yeah. And. um. and there's several others. But again, I'm allowed I think they're going to. give me one more committee meeting which. tells me the bogus nature of this thing. Yeah. You know, they. they're going to get us close and then. they're going to they're going to move. the target or. whatever. And then. Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp who are. George Knapp is one of those guys that. I've Ever since I was a kid I've I've. known cuz he he did the little Lazar. thing. He's the guy that broke Area 51,

really. He's the guy that said that it. existed and the government said it. didn't, again. And then sure lo and behold it existed. And you know, you want to go there now. You know, I mean you could I guess you. know, they'll. they'll probably kill you if you cross. over, but it's probably cuz they're. testing our secret aircraft over there, you know, U-2 type stuff and Yeah. I. don't um. but yeah. He's uh. I like him. Well, if you don't mind me asking, who.

Is there anybody in particular that you. think is a government disinformation. agent? I'll just leave it at probably somebody. you've mentioned in this conversation. Okay. And the problem is they don't know it. That's That's That's the That's the key. to this whole thing cuz they. How would they not know it? Because they're shown things that are. false. Or there people They brought people to. them that are false? Or something's created.

Because. all they got to do is put a bug in. somebody's ear and then they're the. government's getting another. billion dollars to study some crazy. project somewhere. Interesting. Does that make sense? It. does. So, it's So, the disinformation. agent Well, it does and it doesn't. So, the a disinformation agent is there to. one. discredit somebody. Get people off track. and two. to bring in more money.

Just to keep the Just to keep the fire. lit enough. You know, you just get you. salivating enough to where you're you're. asking a lot of questions, folks like. myself. But, I don't want any more. money. I don't want the government to. get I don't know government doesn't need. any They need to go back. cut. billions of dollars. Trillions, actually, but that's beside. the point. So, with they're discrediting. somebody, how would that make more How. would that open would that open people's. checkbooks up? as somebody getting close to the real. issue, they'll discredit them. Other.

people, they'll let them go down the. rabbit hole. so they can get the money. Got you. Got you. So, it's either one or. the other. Yeah. Who do you think. in your opinion, you don't have to say. cuz I know you talked to all of these. people, who is the most Who has given. you the most legitimate information? They all have. They've all given me a. piece of something that's that's real.

Okay. All right. All right, I won't pry any more with. that. But, um. yeah. So, let's go on to You're trying. to get somebody to come knock on my. door, aren't you? I'm trying to. I'm trying to figure out. How do I get They know who I I I mean, you know, it's not like, I mean, I'm the. 435th most powerful member of Congress. It's funny. I got a call from somebody. and I won't say who it is. But they were pretty prominent.

in the Trump administration. It was on a Saturday and I was sitting. on my couch. And uh my buddy was there and he said, "Who the heck is that?" And I showed him. and he's like, "Holy cow.". On my phone he said, and he said, "Hey, you know you kicked a hornet's nest on. this thing, don't you?". I said, "Yes, sir.". I I I said, "I guess I have." And he. goes, "You know, you really ought to think. about getting some bodies around you. when you're out.". No kidding. Do what? I said, "No kidding." No.

kidding. And I. I told him I said, I said, "Well, I said uh you know, I'm in East. Tennessee. You know, if you're not armed, somebody. beside you's got two on you on them. So. I said, and he he said, "No, I'm. serious, you know." And I. And I I I I take that kind of stuff. serious. I've spent a lot a lot of money. on on home security and and keeping my. family safe and those things. So it's um. you know, and I think about that and I.

think about. the disinformation, you know, people. getting killed in Washington and they. claim they're um. um. they claim they're mugged or whatever. and they're still got their watch and. their wallet on them and things like. that in the police report and nobody. investigates. They find a bag of cocaine in the White. House and then. uh. and the only spot in the White House. where there's no camera. And and they say there's DNA, but it was. not enough.

Which to me is either it's like you're. either pregnant or you're not pregnant. Either DNA or no DNA. Yeah. And nobody. asks the questions and it's just brushed. off. Of course. Of course. But um. how about. Project Grudge? came in in 1948. specifically created to debunk the UAP. UFO UAP sightings. Do you know anything. about that? A little. You know, things. like that are. are they real or are they not? Um.

I feel like there's a lot of. and goes back to the disinformation. They don't people on that track. And I think a lot of them are arrogant. They think we can't handle it, which I. don't buy. I don't um. And and two, it's a control thing. And. there's an arrogance. I remember one. time I was um. with somebody. early on in my congressional career and.

I was. at an event I was having a fundraiser. and they were there. And. and they were a big shot and it was they. were going to speak a little and help me. raise some money. And the president called. And I said I want you to take this. president go back back room, you know, whatever. And I thought and I sort of handed I was. like, really the president? Could I talk to him? Could I say hello. to him? And they're like, nah, man, no.

You know, and it it was just a control. thing. 15 seconds wouldn't have hurt. I mean, his dad got him Trump. So, you know, he'd have talked to anybody. So, um and. I always stored that back not because of. the fact that they. I was mad cuz I wasn't really. I was. still, you know, a little green at that issue and um. I don't know why because I've hung out. with Kid Rock twice. Second time he. remembered my name and I remembered a. Harley Davidson I'd had. So, you know,

I've hung out with some of the biggest. there are. Kid Rock's kind of at the top. of the list at that time. But it always. reminded me of um. that it would have said about power and. control. There's a mental thing with a. lot of fake people and some of them are. insecure really that they want to and. they and they use that. They if they've. got something that that maybe you want. just because you want it they're not. going to give it to you and then it. gives them this power of control over. you. And um. I think that goes into a lot of these.

reports again, the Kennedy assassination. reports. What's that going to show? What will it. show? That that. who they're going to embarrass that's. out now, but it's a control thing. Mhm. Mhm. I mean. Yeah, it does. That's a psychological. condition. I don't know you can probably. have somebody analyze it and say it's BS. or not, but that's I see that a lot in. politics where. um yeah, they're going to have a meeting. with somebody and they don't want you.

know, we can't let them in, you know. Yeah. Disseminates the power and the control. Does make sense. Does make sense. Do you think that. the government. has had. has made communications with. ETs? I don't think so. I think it's been. um. I've cuz I.

I don't think they could control it. I. don't think they could control that much. knowledge or power. I think it's been. accidental. I think. that it's um. Yeah. I've I've heard a lot of talk on. that and and and and uh. Because honestly with that with that. technology and their ability. um. I mean. I just just kind of X-Filing it here.

shooting from the hip, but you got. people living 500 years because they. would obviously there'd be some. technology or something or they'd have. incredible. some of them you maybe have incredible. wealth but. um. I think that they would you would see. they would stick out in a crowd. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's take a quick break. All right. When we come back we'll we'll unpack the. the actual hearing. Next on the Shawn Ryan Show.

It also talked about recovering. non-human biologics. If you believe we have crashed craft. stated earlier, do we have the bodies of. the pilots who piloted this craft? As. I've stated publicly already in my. NewsNation interview biologics came with. some of these recoveries. Yeah. Were. they I guess human or non-human. biologics? Non-human and that was the assessment of.

people with direct knowledge on the. program I talked to that are currently. still on the program. So, you're probably not seeing. those type of crafts those crashes. happening. if they are happening at all. So so it was previous technology that. was causing these things to crash. What. What was it? What technology?

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