Randall Carlson - Rediscovering Ancient Civilizations | SRS #103

[Music]. Randall Carlson welcome to the show man. well thanks for having me Sean it's. great to be here it's my pleasure I've. been looking forward to this it's my. pleasure here it is it's actually. happening I first saw you on the ancient. Apocalypse series with Grand hcock and. that really caught my interest and then. I saw you on Rogan and um then that just. took me down the whole rabbit hole so uh.

yeah I'm I'm uh I'm really excited to. have you here I love these kind of. topics so we're going to talk a lot. about ancient Technologies and ancient. civilizations and and some of the stuff. that you're doing now with the education. oh sounds like a good format but um but. yeah so let me let me start off with an. introduction not that you need one cuz. I've seen you all over the place but you. investigate and document catastrophic. history of the world and the evidence. for advanced knowledge in earlier.

cultures you're a geologist. architectural designer teacher. geometrician geome mythologist. geological Explorer and Renegade. scholar we've been doing research for. over 50 years into the interface between. ancient Mysteries and modern science. recognized by the National Science. Teachers Association for your commitment. to Science Education for young. people acclaimed in 1997 t BBS CNN.

documentary Fire in the Sky was based. upon your research into Earth change and. catastrophic events organized several. dozen field Expeditions documenting. evidence for catastrophic Earth change. host of the cosmographia podcast and for. over 25 years you have presented classes. lectures multimedia program synthesizing. this information for students of the. Mysteries h.

well let me clarify a couple of points. because there's always people what what. what the hell is a GE mythologist well a. geologist now that is now becoming a. recognized scientific discipline and. what that is is basically scouring. ancient documents and ancient records. and accounts could be mythology Legends. whatever to get insight into geological. events and geological change and we're. going to pull up some examples while. we're here so you know to to show you.

know um examples I was talking to Kimble. before the before we started the show. here and I mentioned the you know the. discovery of Troy now Troy there was the. famous Trojan War that happened about. 3,000 years ago and this is a good. example of the the the the uh the. efficacy of geum Mythology is that sh. schan who was the archaeologist who. discovered the lost city of Troy when. everybody else the establishment.

believed it was purely just a myth he. actually used clues that he got from. Reading Homer and the myths and stuff. and he went and found the ruins of Troy. and then it was accepted so that was. kind of like okay maybe there was Merit. to looking at some of these ancient. traditions and since then it's kind of. evolved into a whole. subdiscipline of geological research in. that a lot of these ancient accounts can. actually provide very important insight. Clues and information into ancient.

geological events yeah so that's what. geomythology is it is not some weird um. you know. uh uh something that has been concocted. up it's it actually has value and. there's you know sort of a counterpart. to that it's called astromythology. because we know that ancient peoples all. over the world were very very interested. in what was happening in the sky mhm you. know and so ask.

refers to the the stories and the myths. about things that are happening in the. heavens in the sky in the celestial. realm and you know again we're finding. out that you know there's there's Merit. to that there's that we can actually dve. valuable usable information I take the. story of of Marduk battling Tiamat in. this Sumerian tradition and you know. astronomers even like 40 years ago were. looking at that going wait a second. could be that you people are witnessing.

some kind of like Fireballs or maybe the. breakup of a comet or some such thing as. that in the. sky and that became the basis for. recording this myth interesting you know. um same with you know uh Zeus battling. um dragons in the sky um there's many. myths the the the the quetel quaddle the. the uh feathered serpent in in the new. world stories uh um I mean again all.

over the world like stories of dragons. and flying serpents and things like that. and wars in the heavens and so there's. actually a group of astronomers now. particularly they started in England. like in the early 80s late 70s where. they're looking at these myths and going. well maybe these are record records of. things that people actually witnessed. okay or experienced. firsthand well I can't wait to dive in. we had a a very.

we touched on a couple subjects at. breakfast that really really caught my. ear but you know one thing that that I. think everybody is uh everybody is kind. of coming to is you know the ancient. Egypt you know the pyramids and a lot of. these a lot of these uh Mysteries of the. world you know. Stonehenge Easter Island the pyramids. Macha Picchu and how all these seem to. line up you know with the Stars line up.

with each other and um and I think I. don't know too many people left that are. buying. the ancient EGP ancient Egypt the the. pyramids were built with uh by lifting. lifting stone that are that weigh tons. thousands and thousands of pounds with. sticks um yeah I mean a lot of those. stones are. 00 200 tons even bigger than that it's. it's almost interesting that that even. wound up in the educational system to.

begin with and that that uh I mean when. I was going through I mean nobody. challenged it no you know and and uh and. now today it seems to be you know the. complete opposite yeah I mean people are. really beginning to question and and the. thing is you know you could look at it. as an anomaly and one culture at one. point in history said hey you know what. we're going to Quarry and and move 200. ton Stones just for the heck of it mhm.

but you see the thing all over the world. all over the world they're doing these. incredible structures with these massive. stones and uh you know as a builder I. have you know had to move heavy weights. sometimes and of course we'll bring in. cranes and things which presumably they. didn't have back then you know or. frontend loaders or you know lift up. that hell lift up a a one ton beam you. know um do you do you have a how do you. think that was.

done um I've been asked that question a. lot of times and I don't know the answer. I you know I last year in February I. went down and interviewed with Tucker. Carlson I didn't he contacted me said he. wanted to interview me I didn't know. what he wanted to talk about I get down. there that's what he wanted to talk. about we get in his Studio he says how. did they do that and I said well to be. honest I don't know I've been thinking. about this for decades I don't know I. have a some ideas of which direction to.

go now that I didn't have even a year or. two ago however my understanding of the. the. science of it is not to the point yet. where I I feel like I would fall on my. face if I attempted to explain these. thoughts that I have had about how such. a thing might be. accomplished I need to enter I need to. introduce you to my friend Chris Beck. but um okay fascinating guy you got some.

ideas he is uh he used to work for the. he was a seal and then he worked for the. Pentagon he's basically uh I mean in a. nutshell a mad scientist and uh just a. br we like mad scientists actually a. brilliant mind but he talks a lot about. everything is his frequency and. vibration see that's exactly the. direction I would go and do you believe. in Zero Point Energy I haven't. researched it enough to say I believe in. it but I do think that there are forms.

of energy that are orders of magnitude. more efficient than anything we're using. today I mean if you. put I believe they were able to harness. some type of energy out of the earth to. move those I don't see any other way. that's exactly the direction I would go. with it and I mean if you put a you know. if you just put a I don't know a block. or a paper weight or whatever on a table. or on top of a speaker and apply. frequency and vibration it moves on its.

own and so if you had some people. guiding where that needed to be moved. yeah that seems to be the. only I don't know how the hell you would. do it uh or how you would harness the. energy or create frequency and vibration. to be able to vibrate the Earth to get. PE I mean basically we're talking about. levitation yeah you know and and I just. don't see any any other way how uh to do. it but it seems to be the only logical. explanation that.

I think levitation was probably. the a scientific reality to ancient. cultures yeah interestingly you know the. stories about the um the Arc of the. Covenant you know it was sheathed in. gold and it would have been extremely. heavy would have been very difficult to. for people to lift and and move and I've. forget I've seen some calculations of. how heavy the damn thing would have been. and uh you know it was carried on staves. because no one according to the accounts. no one could touch it mhm L they would.

get fried somehow but I always I noticed. interestingly that you know the tribe. that was the only tribe that was allowed. of the 12 tribes to actually transport. and move the the Ark of the Covenant do. you know which tribe that was I do not. the Levites the Levites mhm Levites. levity levitation got it mhm got it and. you know having looked into some of.

these mystery religions like cabala and. stuff that say that there's hidden. meanings to the words in the language um. homonyms and synonyms and things that. you know that's the whole basis of the. cabalistic system that caught my eye and. I thought that's interesting coincidence. yeah very interesting well before we get. too far into the weeds here and uh I. can't wait to get there I have a patreon. and uh I give everybody they're the. reason I'm here they're the reason.

you're here um they're they're our top. supporters and so I give them an. opportunity to ask the guest a question. so this is from Dylan okay and Dylan. wants to know here's his question what. were some of the hypothesized steps that. are surviving ancestors took to survive. a 20 to 30° C environmental temperature. change and build back a new. Society okay I don't know of temperature. change that extreme although we're. looking at some very extreme I mean.

we're looking at 10 to 12°. C which you know which should be about. 18 to 20° Fahrenheit Fahrenheit but. that's Way Beyond anything we've. experienced in recent times yeah uh I. mean coming out of the little Ice Age. 150 to 200 years ago temperature of the. planet has warmed about a degree so. we're looking at warming of 20 times. that much and some of the some of the. Stu IES uh based on Ice cores Greenland.

ice cores Antarctic Ice cores other. kinds of proxy evidence the the the time. span in which this temperature change. occurred has gone from a thousand years. to a century then from a century to a. decade then from a decade to five years. and now the latest as we get to this. ever more refined temporal resolution. like from the studies of ice sces it's. down to 1 to three years so what.

happened you know that's a a mystery now. what did people. do Ah that's a very interesting question. to me like you need to find a place of. Refuge to to to ride this thing out. because at the same time these extreme. temperature changes are happening the. whole surface of the planet is being. remodeled in a major way. so one of the things that would abs. absolutely be necessary is to find the.

places of Refuge now in in ecologists. when they look at the decimation of of. of of a whole. ecosystem um like a great microcosm of. that would be the uh Mount St Helen's. eruption of 1980 when you had about 200. square miles just utterly decimated. turned into a lunar landscape well. you've got biologists and and and. ecologists and stuff have been study how.

Nature has reclaimed that and what. usually happens is you have these. Pockets where some seeds or whatever. spores primarily like because the first. colonizer plants that show up in the. aftermath of catastrophe are ferns and. so this is what happened you have these. pockets of Life recovering and then from. those little islands of Life of. biological activity it spreads out. at the rate that it's been recovering.

you know about another it's been what 40. years now since that big eruption and um. it's probably you know there's now. forests encroaching upon the area of. Devastation give it another 50 to 100. years and it should be completely. recovered now the question is if we're. faced because to me okay two questions. one the historical question because we. now know that these tremendous. catastrophes have happened and have. happened repeatedly so and then if they. happen again for example we know that.

asteroid and Clary impacts are way more. frequent than anybody was imagining a. generation. ago excuse me I'm a little hor today but. interestingly what we've seen and say in. the last 253 years is that geologists. looking at the Earth Down Below have. have seen multiple scars from these. tremendous Cosmic events impacts of. asteroids and and meteors uh cometary.

comets and cometary debris there's about. now right now about 200 craters and or. asob. blams uh that have been discovered now. an astram is an impact scar but it's. usually buried beneath the surface it's. called literally translates say star. wound star wound now most of those are. the result of high density objects like. iron asteroids have you ever been to the.

crater in Arizona near Winslow I haven't. Okay add that to your list you need to. get out there and see it this is this is. you'll get out there and you're going to. be looking in this 600t deep hole a. kilometer wide and you're going to go. that's one big hell of a hell of a big. hole right but that was like a little. baby piece of cosmic debris that that. excavated that hole was an iron asteroid. about 1 15 ft in diameter right most of. the asteroid pulverized upon impact and. pieces of it are strewn out for miles.

from the crater itself uh in the museum. there you can see there's a hunk of the. the iron it's maybe about like so big. you know um now when you have a high. density and we're talking you know five. or six grams per cubic cimer when you. have a highdensity object like that. coming in at hypervelocity speeds it'll. penetrate through the whole atmosphere. and strike the ground now if you have a. lower density object like say have you. ever heard the Tusa event of 1908 no I.

haven't okay so in 1908 a piece of a. comet it was probably related to the. comet we call Comet anky which was. probably part of a family of meteors. called the torid the torid meteor shower. which the Earth crosses this stream. twice each year okay so that piece is. estimated to have been about 150 ft in. diameter so now on the one hand the the. hole you've got in Arizona the big.

crater bowl that you've got in the. desert in Arizona was created by like. almost think about a cast iron and. roughly the the density and weight of. cast iron the tusu event on the other. hand was more like almost like a. snowball but when that thing came in. again at at hyper velocity speeds it. penetrated the atmosphere it happened on. June uh by the modern by the Gregorian. calendar it would have been June June. 30th in.

1908 that thing descended through the. through the. atmosphere but uh was moving so fast. that the atmosphere in effect didn't. have time to get out of the way the. lower density of it meant that like when. uh when the Department of Defense. dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and. Nagasaki you know those bombs didn't. fall and strike the ground and explode. they were blown up in the atmosphere why. because You' got a greater kill radius. you've got a greater radius of.

Destruction um whereas if it hits the. ground most of that energy is absorbed. into the ground and the blast wave if if. it you if you detonate it in the. atmosphere that BL blast wave can move. out much more to a greater distance so. Tusa 1908 exploded 5 miles up in the. atmosphere with the force of about a 15. Megaton hydrogen bomb the largest h hen. bomb ever tested by the us back in the.

1950s was called Bravo 20 megatons right. so this is almost in the range of the. biggest hydrogen bomb that the US. Department of Defense ever tested right. um as a result of that explosion over. 820 square miles of old growth taga. forest was just utterly obliterated and. flattened under the epicenter of that. explosion about 200 square miles was.

just incinerated to nothing right M now. this is so we have two contrasting. episodes there now one we have an iron. asteroid strikes the Earth we have a low. density object probably a piece of a. comet blows up in the atmosphere right. now the reason we know about the. tunguska event of 1908 is because of the. the de two things the devastation but. also the account that this now this is a.

very remote region of Siberia Northwest. of Lake Bal very remote region and so. the the tusi tribes people that lived. there were reindeer herders and as far. as we know there was nobody killed. directly by the blast because it was. just at the the northern limits of the. tree line if it had been much far. another 50 Mi North or 100 Mil North we. wouldn't have known about it. the way reason we know about it is.

because number one uh even though this. was very remote when this happened in. 1908 there were still accounts that that. made their way out and a scientist a. Russian Scientist by the name of leaned. Kulik got very he was studying meteoric. phenomena and he heard about this and he. decided he wanted to follow up on this. so I think it was 1927 or 1928 he uh. journeyed to this uh small village. vanavara I think is what it was called.

it was is the closest human habitation. to this event and he found out you know. they confirmed yeah there was this thing. but they were very superstitious about. it they did not want any Outsiders to go. there because they felt like it had been. a visitation from the fire god agdi and. they witnessed this thing from the. distance and it. completely I mean they were so blown. away by what happened and then of course. some of them traveled in like some but.

the only thing that was probably killed. in Mass was reindeer herds so some of. the reindeer herders had gone up looking. for their reindeers and of course they. could find no trace of them they had. been just incinerated in a blue so did. this explode in the air is this exploded. in the air exploded about 5 miles up so. that's a major difference between these. two now if we think of the the the. objects the cosmic objects that could. strike Earth those are the two end. points of Continuum the high density.

iron type objects and the low density. cometary type objects and then you can. have everything in between so you're. talking about roughly a gram per cubic. centimeter which is like a piece of ice. or five gram per cubic cmet which is. going to be like a piece of uh cast iron. and then like in the middle you've got. what are the kritic meteorites that are. about three which so if you went out. next to a creek and you picked up your. your standard piece of rock sedimentary.

rock it's going to be about 3 three and. half grams per cubic centimeter so. that's right in the middle of the. spectrum now here's the thing I'm. getting at when we start crater counting. to try to understand how many times the. Earth has been impacted we're looking at. objects that actually strike the earth. now if you had an event like Tusa 1908. how many how. many I'm just curious how many do you. know how many times the Earth has been. struck by some type of a meteor or or a.

comet that's what I'm getting at perfect. that's exactly what I'm I'm I'm I'm. laying it out so that right so here's. the thing if you have an event like Tusa. a 100 years from now there won't be any. trace of it the trees that were knocked. down will have all been rotted away and. there's new forests growing there right. and we wouldn't even know about it right. whereas the Arizona meteor crater that.

happened some 50,000 years ago so that. big hole in the ground is still there. right and we can see it we can count it. well like I said there's about 200. craters and AST blams that have been. identified on. Earth 200 about 200 now is the census. now how I just have another question. real quick how are you able to date when. an asteroid hits the Earth well there's. a number of different ways you you know. optically stimulated luminescence is.

probably the the the main way now that. you can date rocks but you know you can. use relative dating where if you know. the you like for example if if you go. out if you got layers of soil okay right. and you go out and you dig a hole right. now you go come back afterwards and you. look at that hole and you okay we've cut. through this layer this layer this layer. but not this layer so we know it's. younger than this layer right got it now. let's say we've got remains of life. forms in there that we can date well now.

we can date some of these layers or the. optically stimulated luminescence not to. OSL dating not to try to get into a. technical discussion on that but it. basically is that um you have certain. atomic structures that are reset when. they're exposed to light so if you've. got a a crystal that's buried um what's. happening is um it's through uh radio. through through uh radiocarbon process. it's decaying and producing byproducts.

right and by measuring the ratio of the. precursor material and the byproducts. and you know how long that rate of of of. transition is occurring you can now get. it a relative date the younger stuff. like um the other way is this okay so. you dig that hole and you go away and. now things start you know Wind Blows.

things blow into the hole you know plant. life falls into it and it starts filling. up right well then you can go and you. can maybe date the stuff that's in there. in the hole and if you go back and you. you pull up and you do core samples and. you take and you date those and they. they the latest the oldest dates turn up. to be 50,000 years old that's probably. going to give you an indication of when. it happened and that's kind of how they. they dated the Arizona thing now okay. the the the 1908 event that was.

witnessed so I mean there are accounts. of that but here's the thing I'm getting. at the lower density objects are about. 10 times more abundant than the iron. objects so and then when you look at the. actual craters and as blams most of. those are on places um where there's. fairly dense human habitation Europe. Scandinavia Canada the. US Russia more and more of them are. being found in Russia what's under.

Antarctica we don't know yet but there's. evidence that there's a really big. crater under the ice in Antarctica what. about the bottom of the oceans which is. almost 3/4 of the planetary surface for. everyone that's going to hit the. ground on land there's going to be three. that hit the ocean and so now you have. Marine geologists who are re-evaluating. evidence for large scale tsunamis that. have made landfall and thinking that. some of those are too big to have been. formed by simply underground I mean.

undersea volcanic eruptions and may be. the result of you know a half kilometer. or kilometer wide object plunging into. the ocean that's moving you know at 20 m. per second right but my point and this. is the takeaway is that the the events. like. Tusa that don't leave a lasting. impression are way more abundant than. the ones that dig holes in the ground so. if you're just counting holes in the. ground or scars in the surface of the.

Earth itself you're going to be under. counting that's my point so we're kind. of in a position now of re-evaluating. just how many times perhaps we have been. affected in the past and here's again. now we turn to astrom mythology or geome. mythology and we have hundreds of. accounts from all over the world of. things that once you got this picture in. your mind of what an event like that. would be mhm it sounds like that's what. they're talking about interesting how.

many um are you do you know do you. happen to know how many documented cases. are the maybe within the past I don't. know 200 years of impact type events yes. well the big one of course was 1908 oh. okay but there's also evidence now of of. a similar event happening over Brazil in. the. 1930s really yeah um there's also. evidence that there might have been a. similar type event maybe even bigger.

over New Zealand what is the evidence. well the evidence and the first thing. like in the Brazil event that was um uh. who was it I think it was some Catholic. priests that were going in there to you. know to try to convert the natives and. they started hearing these tales and. then uh later some scientists went in. there and they found what looked like. that there had actually been three. strikes of like three objects that came. in together and individually each one.

was smaller than the 1908 event but. taken together the total energy released. may have been in that scale wow um and I. mean there's very uh the evidence is. accumul there's a there's a. researcher geom mythologist named Bruce. Massie who's done some incredible work. on um on uh studying and and it's come. to the conclusion that these events have. been are far more frequent than anybody. had imagined you know 20 or 30 years ago.

wow you know wow yeah I've got it all. documented here so when you know I've. been doing this for a long time and I've. spent pretty much every hour of my spare. time for 40 years collecting this stuff. it's interesting it's interesting and I. visited just about all of the craters in. America um a couple of them in Canada. but there's a lot more you know I've. done um in fact there's a chain of them.

across the Midwest I think it's said. about the 34th parallel I think there's. eight of them and it might have been a. multiple impact event now this would. have been a long time ago before humans. but like imagine do do you remember the. 1994 July do you remember Shoemaker. ly9 think about when when there was a. multiple impact into Jupiter I think it. was the second week of July 1989 I mean. 1994 um. I do not remember that what were you.

doing in. 1994 I was probably in Middle. School okay that would explain why now. see the the the the crime there is that. you were probably in middle school and. you didn't have any teacher telling we. were learning about ancient Egypt and. how they propped those blocks up with. sticks oh really that's what I was doing. in '94 '94 okay well in 94 so this at. the time it was the most watch Astron.

watched astronomical event in history. and in uh 15 months earlier in March of. 93 astronomer David ly and astronomer uh. Carolyn Shoemaker wife of Jean Shoemaker. who was a famous uh like he trained NASA. astronauts and stuff when they were. going to the Moon he was a geologist and. and so David Levy and Carolyn Shaker who.

was Jean Shaker's wife discovered they. were looking at Jupiter and they saw a. comet just making an appear it had just. orbited around Jupiter and it was just. appearing from behind Jupiter when they. discovered it so it was like discovery. of a of a new Comet suddenly there it. was you know coming from behind. Jupiter they began watching it and over. the next few days and weeks they could. see that the thing had was had broken. into pieces and So what had been a.

single nucleus turned into 21 new. separate individual. nuclei and the reason that happened is. because first of all comets aren't. really cohesively and solidly bound the. nucleus can be fragmented fairly easily. right Jupiter has this intense gravity. field and the there's a. a a principle called the RO limit where.

an object coming too close to uh a. larger body like Earth or Jupiter or. whatever if it passes within that Ro. limit the gravity is so strong that it. would overcome the bonding of the object. and it'll fragment it'll literally the. gravity of Jupiter tore this common. nucleus apart so the astronomers started. tracking and they could see these pieces. spreading out in space they called it.

the the chain of. pearls and it took about 3 months of. observations and within that three. months they were able to. recreate the entire elliptical orbit of. the thing they were able to determine. because of the velocity of it they now. had the velocity of these pieces and. they had the geometry of the orbit so. they there sort of fast forwarded it and. they go okay in July of next year July.

of 94 it's going to cross it'll recross. the orbit of Jupiter but here was the. interesting thing when it's recrossing. the orbit of Jupiter guess what Jupiter. is right. there so they knew that it was going to. be an impact and they predicted this a. year in advance so in I believe it was. the second week of July 1994. 21 pieces slammed into Jupiter any one.

of those pieces had it struck Earth. would have caused a global catastrophe. and probably pull the plug on our. civilization wow wouldn't wouldn't have. been an extinction level event um but it. would have been enough to basically put. us back to the Stone Age wow and there. were 21 of those pieces and up until. that point no one had ever expected that. they would witness such a thing as that. so that was an important milestone in.

thinking about. catastrophism and the probabilities or. possibilities of such a thing happening. on Earth do you just back to the patreon. question do you have any do you do you. do you think about that how Humanity may. have survived or sought Refuge well you. want to turn back to mythology yeah. let's do it let's do it if we were fa. with something like if we can go back.

to now what's almost certainly a a real. thing strictly a mythology okay so here. we got mythology MH and here we have. scientific evidence that Earth was. blasted around. 12,900 Years Ago by a multi-impact event. okay a smaller version of what happened. to Jupiter okay. now people we've been around modern. humans have been around for probably a. couple hundred thousand years so the.

event that happened is called the. younger dras younger dras was a uh. initially it was a an extreme climate. event that was uh documented in Europe. because it's called it's named after a. flower called dras octopetala dras. octopetala is a polar wildflower that. loves the cold so when. these botanists and whoever was studying.

the the the the the plant they saw that. it was growing in Europe during the Ice. Age when Europe was 10° colder than now. and then it. disappeared for about, 1300 14500 years. and then it suddenly came back. again so from that they concluded well. you've got this cold loving. flower that was there. then it was suddenly gone and then it.

reappeared so you had this interval. where it warmed up and the flower did. didn't like the warm weather and then it. came back again so that means the cold. weather came back now the younger Dy. which that was how it was first uh. identified like 30 40 years ago was the. study of this polar Wildflower well. since then we've learned all kinds of. interesting things one is that the the. mass extinction of the great megap that. lived during the Ice Age there was you.

know over 100 species of megap that did. not survive the end of the Ice Age right. I mean when was the last time you saw a. woolly mammoth Rose roaming around the. forest of Tennessee it's been a minute. it's been a minute but 12,000 13,000. years ago you had several species of. elephants living here in Tennessee. interesting you don't think about. elephant you think elephants you think. Africa India but you don't think North. America North an elephant is a prob.

aidian meaning it has a long snout a. long. nose up until the end of the last ice AG. there were four species of probo cidian. living in North. America think about that they're all. gone now what happened to them well. there's different theories one Theory. which I think considered to be. ridiculous is that they were hunted to. extinction by nomadic tribes of of. hunters but given that the estimates for. the human. population at the end of the last ice.

age and we're talking 12 to 15,000 years. ago. roughly those estimates of human total. Global human population range between 5. and 10. million estimates for total number of. mammoths 12. million wow 12 million mammoths that's. just an estimate but it's probably in. the ballpark now let's say you got 10. million people how many of those people. now that's every that's women children. El elderly how many of those are going.

to actually be hunters and Hunters that. are willing that are capable of taking. down a mammoth 25% or less what 25% or. less that's probably about right yeah so. what does that leave couple of million. people were able to exterminate every. Mammoth on Earth in less than a thousand. years no way no and then when we look at. the circumstances under which we find. those mammoths and other extinct. animals that's not you know I mean we.

find them Frozen in permafrost there was. a Rogan podcast where he had um Jim John. Reeves who's a a gold prospector and he. owns a large tract of land in an. undisclosed location in. Alaska on his land there's a a valley. that's filled with with uh permafrost. when you into that permafrost half of it. is the remains of extinct.

megap bones. twisted uh ligaments pieces of muscle. that have been you know skin that have. been frozen it looks like they took a. whole. ecosystem dumped it in a gigantic. blender blended it all up and then. dumped this [ __ ] in the in the river. valleys of this area in Alaska. now those kinds of things have been.

documented for over 200 years explorers. up there seeing that kind of stuff. coming out of the Yukon coming out of. Alaska coming out of Siberia for years. and years and years they were exporting. Mammoth tusks Ivory right to this day a. lot of old pianos built in the 19 1800s. and stuff have mammoth ivory that that. that are the keys thousands and. thousands of of those tusks were dug out. of the.

permafrost they didn't end up there from. Human Hunters they were destroyed in. some type of a. catastrophe the most likely trigger for. catastrophe I think is from out there. and in some of the bone beds up in those. areas they've now discovered um aridium. Platinum spikes which are delivered to. Earth via Cosmic impact. that's how they discovered that. originally came up with the theory that.

the dinosaurs had been killed in this. great impact was because they discovered. a layer that's right there there at that. KT boundary layer 66 million years old. below which you had dinosaurs and above. which there were no. dinosaurs in the late 1970s they took a. closer look at that layer and they. discovered it was more than a 100 times. richer in aridium than the than below or. above that layer they said where the. hell did all this aridium come from well.

they knew that aridium is delivered to. Earth via Cosmic. impact so this was a group that was. looking at a KT boundary layer in Italy. and they contacted their colleagues. first in Denmark then in New Zealand. because they were trying to determine. well how widespread was this it looks. like there was a dusting of aridum well. they contacted their colleague. colleagues in other places around the. world and they said go back take a.

closer look at that KT boundary layer. and see if there's an Arium Spike and in. every case there was an enormous. enhancement of. Arium which led them to then believe. that the entire planet got dusted with. aridium so how do you do that well again. you you you blow up an asteroid and you. distribute its debris into the pulverize. it so that its debris is microscopic and. you inject that into the atmosphere and. the atmosphere carries it around the.

planet from the concentration of irium. they were able to calculate based upon. we know how much we know that two things. when we pick up meteorites in the field. they can measure the amount of merid. idum or other group Platinum. renum uh zirconium other Platinum Group. metals they can actually measure. directly in the meteorites then you can. look at the spectral emissions of.

asteroids and those those substances. will have very distinct spectral. signatures and so they were able to. estimate okay we've got x amount of. aridum given the percentages of aridium. that we know is in an asteroid how big. of an asteroid would it have to be and. they came up with the they did the the. math on it it's going to have to be. about 6 miles in. diameter then they said okay if you've. got a 6 M diameter asteroid with a.

closing velocity of 20 m per second what. size crater is that going to. create 150 mil roughly in diameter so. they speculated said somewhere there. must be 150 mile crater if if we're. right all the Skeptics would were saying. well until you can show us the crater. we're not buying into this that there. you know because that's to too. drastically different than our old. models of gradual Extinction right well.

at the same time petroleum Mexico is. drilling excuse me in the northern. Yucatan. Peninsula and they had drilled down. about through a half a kilometer of. limestone. sediment and at the bottom of that drill. CP they hit something hard they brought. up samples of it it was this green. vitrified really dense glass-like. material their first assumption it was a. volcanic well word of this eventually.

got to some American scientists that. were um trying to figure out what. happened at the KT boundary they went. down there they got more samples and. they started doing subsurface surveys. and they could see that there was a. giant circular structure buried under a. half a mile of limestone and this green. vitrified stuff was the the rock that. had melted in the in the the. superheated temperatures that were.

created by this impact they were then. they they've gone on I mean they for. example have found the the remnants of. gigantic tsunamis in Louisiana and Texas. that were washed north um so it's it was. a long process but this this occurred in. like the early 90s so in in. 1980 three teams separately proposed. that the extinction of the the dinosaurs. at the KT boundary was triggered by an. impact the the team of Walter and Lewis.

Alvarez uh who who studied the the. outcrop in Italy theirs seemed to be the. most accurate in in in terms of what we. now know happened then um but it took a. decade for them to be Vindicated and it. was with the discovery of that huge. crater and the dating of that crater. that again right there 66 million years. ago right now of course that was long. before. humans now fast forward.

to the younger dras the lower younger. dest boundary which is dated just a. little bit younger than 12,900 years. idum has been found Platinum has been. found at that Nano diamonds have been. found which are microscopic diamonds and. the only other place that diamonds just. like that have been found the KT. boundary from 66 million years ago wow. so it's almost certain that there but we. still have large factions of the.

scientific community that doesn't want. to go there doesn't want to admit that. there could have been a global. catastrophe 12 or 13,000 years. ago and you know part of the the. political narrative now is that humans. are causing the sixth great mass. extinction and exhibit a is the fact oh. look what humans did to the woolly. mammoths they exterminated them all so. their proves that humans. can cause mass. extinctions um they don't want that to.

be taken away from them so they um. they're refusing that's part of it but. there's there's a whole group of them. that just as the evidence continues to. accumulate they just do not want to go. there um at some point it' be really I. you should get George Howard George. Howard George Howard he he has a website. called the um Cosmic Tusk and he's been. in the Forefront of this. research probably since the 80s.

interesting he's also uh was one of the. co-authors of a paper that came out in. um. 2007 that proposed that the mass. extinction was caused by some type of an. impact that was 2007 and that ignited a. firestorm of controversy it's gone back. and forth and back and forth um but at. this point I think I think 8 to 10 teams. around the world have.

independently verified that there is the. Fingerprints of a cosmic impact. event that occurred around. 12,800 to 12,900 years ago that seems to. be right there along with the mass. extinction now back to the. question which. is where would people have survived and. it were such a thing to happen again. where could people survive well there. are places around the world like for.

example if you look in Africa today. where is the greatest concentration of. megaphon species in the world today. Africa. right if we look if we look at a census. continent by continent what we see is. that North. America lost three quarters of its. megaphon species at the end of the Ice. Age South America lost about the same. percentage Eurasia lost about.

35% Africa only lost. 10% that's why Africa today has the. greatest number of megap funel when you. start thinking about and let me Define. megaphon a megaphon is uh defined as a. any animal weighs over 44 kilograms in. body weight which is right about 100. pounds good so if you if you take the. the census of of animals living on Earth. today there's about and and depending on.

how you divide them up do do you. separate Timberwolves from Grey Wolves. you know do you separate African. elephants from Indian elephants probably. you do but there's some variability in. there but let's say there's roughly 100. to 120 species of megaphon megaphon. around the planet it's about equal to. the number of megaphon species that went. extinct around the world so you to put. that in perspective what that means is. that you would have. to the number of species that got wiped.

out at the end of the last ice age and. there's argument about was the span a. decade a hundred years several thousand. years that's still being worked out. although it looks like it's honing in. right at this boundary which is dated at. 129 12,900 years ago okay so if if you. were going to duplicate a an a species. extinction level event. to the one that happened at the end of. the last ice age you'd have to pretty.

much eliminate every animal over 100 PB. body weight on Earth okay that's how. severe the mass extinction was wow and. that was I mean that's not even one of. the considered one of the great ones in. Earth history a great one in Earth. history you're talking about 70 to 90%. of all. species. terrestrial Marine Etc peran Tria maybe. as much as uh 95% of all species on.

earth when extinct just like that and. they're still trying to figure out why. you know. um but so now here's the interesting. question we can see from the number one. species loss is going to be directly. related to habitat loss the greater the. loss of habitat the greater it will. affect species that are adap to living. in that. habitat so you can conclude from that.

that if three4 of the species of North. and South America went extinct that was. where the greatest habitat loss occurred. so it was it was the the last Global. catastroph it was kind of focused on the. Western Hemisphere Eurasia was second. Africa was third so what that tells you. is the safest place to have been on. Earth during these events would have. been Africa mhm and I suspect that it. all pretty much is around.

Kenya um tanzan tan Tanzania Tanzania. Tanzania that's what I'm trying to say. thank you around the Great Rift area. okay that's where it seems like was kind. of a place of global Refuge you had the. greatest survival of species and once. the dust settled in the aftermath of. these events they were able to. repopulate so it was so nobody really. saw Refuge it was just luck of the draw. where you were on the well now you get.

down to a really interesting. question I think that the plausible. scenario might be that you had survivors. of two. types those who survived by the luck of. the. draw and those who survived because they. they knew it was H going to happen they. planned for it they prepared for it and. you think they knew it was going to. happen I think I think we could make a. strong argument that people that. somebody did know how so how would they.

have known well see this is where we now. get into why ancient peoples all over. the world were such obsessive. skywatchers and how did the how did. astronomers were able to. predict this impact on Jupiter year in. advance now I think that we could make. the argument that there was whatever you. want to call them a priesthood or. whatever whose job it was to monitor the.

skies for Generation after generation. and typically one of the things that. would happen is that impacts you know. right now we could think of Earth we. could think of Jupiter and there are. streams of stuff traveling between the. two almost like Cosmic ping pong or. something right right now every year on. June 30th. and two times right around late October. early November late June early.

July Earth crosses this stream of cosmic. debris that's called the torid meteor. shower the peak of that now it takes a. to fully cross the stream takes a couple. of weeks. right. but the Tusa object okay now. okay. if this is where if I come back we can.

look at some really cool graphics pull. them up well if you like I don't know if. I've got that open but when we do the. break I'll I'll pull some stuff up okay. um picture this you've got this stream. of debris coming in from Jupiter coming. around the Sun and going back out to. Jupiter the whole stream takes between. three and four years to make an orbit. around like this right. now here comes the Earth it crosses the. stream twice right once in late October.

early November when it crosses at that. time of year it's Crossing in such a way. that if you were to look up the. stream you'd be looking out into space. you'd be in fact you'd be looking. towards the constellation of. Taurus that's where it gets its name the. torid meteor shower after after the. constellation of the bull now that. stream comes in comes around the Sun now.

if Earth is crossing there in the late. in in late June early July and you're. looking up the stream as these things. are approaching you're looking almost. directly towards the Sun so you don't. see him that's what happened on July. June 30th 1908 is that thing came from. around the sun and the people that did. see it in the last few seconds. they describe things like it looked like. it was being born out of the Sun or the.

sun spit it out you know and they see. this thing suddenly in the sky and then. it gets brighter than the Sun and then. the damn thing. explodes and you had people 40 Mi away. from the epicenter of the explosion who. are literally like. blown blown off their feet and thrown 20. 30 ft in the air interesting yeah I mean. that was how the pressure wave that went. out from that. right so.

um what I'm leaning towards is the idea. that you had people who. were watching the skies and predicting. this and one of the reasons now again. showing Graphics would be to explain. this would be much easier but when you. look at and make these predictions of. like when they made that. prediction back in. '93 that this thing was going to hit. Jupiter they used things they used a set. of uh information called cometary.

elements or the orbital elements right. and what they need to know is the the. shape of the the orbit its tilt relative. to Earth's orbital plane and several. other things. right well the things that modern. astronomers used to count the tools they. use the conceptual tools they use to. make that prediction are all the things. that you can ident ify by using the. ancient standing Stone circles and.

observatories I think all these things. all over the planet were. observatories by which they were able to. calculate Cosmic motion to a high degree. of precision and if you saw an object. circling you know in that orbit and just. like with the the the uh Shoemaker leing. n that thing had been circling Earth and. and Jupiter but nobody had seen it right.

it had been doing it how probably dozens. of times and nobody had seen it but what. happened is that every time it went out. to Jupiter Jupiter's gravity was sucking. it in a little closer a little closer a. little closer until finally it got so. close it passed within that Ro limit. ripped it apart and then on the next. circuit around boom gotta Direct Hit. gotcha now. maybe there were ancient people with. enough sophistication to see things in.

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with yeah okay but um what else is in. here oh it's just some stickers and. stuff like that El Sean Ryan Show okay. well this otherwise people just they. won't believe that I was actually on. your show look at this okay vigilance. Elite I like it right on vigilance. absolutely man love that logo thank you. you. yeah but um so we had a little side.

conversation downstairs about a study. that uh was done on children who yeah. grow up around in and around nature and. kids that grow up just with technology. so I pulled it up here on my laptop so I. will. just a couple of I I'll just selectively. I'm not going to read the whole thing um. but so.

uh this is U the title of this article. is scientists discover a major lasting. benefit of growing up outside the. city um so I'll just read a few. highlights. here um using data from. 3,585. people uh collected across four cities. scientists from the bar Barcelona. Institute for Global Health Report a. strong relationship between growing up.

away from the natural world and mental. health in. adulthood overall they found a strong. correlation between low exposure to. Nature during childhood and higher. levels of nervousness and feelings of. depression in. adulthood co-author. Mark nean Houston don't know how to. pronounce his last named. PhD director of uh is uh Global this is.

Institute for Global's urban planning. environment and health initiative tells. inverse the journal that was doing this. uh interview that the relationship. between nature and mental health remains. strong even when adjusted for. confounding. factors quoting him what we found is. that the childhood experience of Green. Space can actually predict mental health. later in life Wow the people that.

reported more exposure to Nature. actually have better mental health than. those that don't even after we adjust. for exposure at the time of interview. when they are. adults uh let's see for one thing many. many Studies have noted Nature's ability. to reduce rumination a risk factor for. mental illness spending in time in. nature this is one of the other. researchers uh Zelma says uh Zelma says.

has been linked with increased. self-esteem this is in. nature increased self-esteem quality of. life and physical activity as well as. lower body mass index uh in this sense. nature itself is beneficial these. findings fold into the biophilia. hypothesis the idea that humans. intrinsically seek out connections with. nature including exposure to Green. spaces an offshoot of this idea is that.

nature promotes certain developmental. changes in the brain particularly in. children that may not happen when we are. removed from it uh nean Housen presented. some evidence for this in a 2018 study. showing that exposure to Green Space. correlated with structural changes in. the brain and greater working memory in. 258 school children and then quoting him. this is a.

hypothesis I think the reason for it is. in general our brains are still wired. for when we were still living in the. savanas and jungles with a lot of nature. around us it's only in the last few. hundred years that we have moved into. cities our brains are not really. adjusted to that the second way to. interpret the results is to consider not. the benefits of nature exposure but the. disadvantages of being away from. polluted cities in particular seem to. extract additional tolls on health and.

may actually impact cognitive. development in children uh these. negative aspects of being removed from. nature highlight the indirect way that. growing up in a city could have lasting. effects in other words the way we're. designed our cities is inherently. harmful um finally let's see. um we cannot really say how much. exposure exactly there should be. children that have poor residential. access to Nature could certainly benefit.

from field trips in nature but it would. probably be better if there's regular. exposure at home and school there's a a. a a image here of a brain. scam uh let me make this a little bit. more visible I can hold it up and these. uh this shows that exposure to Green. Space was linked with structural changes. in white and gray matter volume in the. brain suggesting that there might be a. causal relationship between cognitive. development and exposure to Green Space.

and those yellow showing where the. structural changes are taking place wow. um in the brains of children who are. being regularly exposed to Nature wow. fascinating stuff isn't it isn't it. though. yeah and I got another study you know. where it's talking about the um you know. some of the difference I mean just the. mental. health of people of of children grow up.

to be much more healthy in terms of. their their emotions their psychology. their their mental processes and so on. and children that are deprived of that. so I think that's important it's. important for people to know that and. then I have a comment here where I say. the proportion of rural to Urban. dwellers in America has shifted. dramatically in the past three to four. generations creating an imperative need. for opportunities for people to. reconnect with the natural order this is.

especially important for children and. young people who will inherit the earth. and must become its stewards as the 21st. century. unfolds and we've basically shifted from. three or four generations ago where 3/4. of the population was Rural and now it's. three4 of the population are pretty much. Urban dwellers yeah and you got kids now. who you know I mean I I I've talked to. kids that are teenage. who've never seen the Milky Way galaxy. man you know that's that's not good yeah.

that's not good and and you know schools. aren't aren't living up to their what. they should be doing well they got their. own agendas. nowadays yeah uh what we found is that. childhood experience of Green Space can. actually predict mental health in later. life the people that reported more. exposure to Nature actually have better. Mental Health and those that don't even. even after we adjust for exposure at the.

time of the interview when they are. adults so interesting stuff yeah very. very interesting y you know it's it's. it's I think since uh 2020 there's been. a nothing like what you're talking about. for the last three um what is it the. last three generations you know moving. into the urban environment but you did. see a wave after 2020 of people trying. to get back out into nature oh yeah you. know and U it's interesting we saw. similar thing you know in the late 60s.

and early '70s people who started. experimenting with psychedelics and. stuff there was the back to the land. movement yeah um and that was a mixed. bag because a lot of people from my. generation tried to do it and and. weren't prepared for what it actually. involved it's a lot of work going back. to the land yeah no I had it is I had a. of that you know growing up where I grew. up you know I mean in rural Minnesota.

but um you know there was a lot of naive. intentions were good but there was a lot. of naivity and you know um but I but. you're right now after the co a lot of. people are thinking hey maybe it's we. should revive some of those ideas and we. know a whole lot more now about how to. do it yeah and what's involved you know. you just don't go out there and you know. build you a little lean to and you know. it's a little more than that yeah um you.

know we live out there and uh there's no. way in hell I would ever move back to. the city yeah not a chance well like we. talked about earlier you know my my. building business kept me tied to the. city because that's where all my. clientele was but now that I'm shifting. out of that into more teaching and. podcasting and stuff and making making a. living doing that um yeah I mean and I. did pretty good last year but you know I. spent it all I built a barn and I built.

my studio um so my next surplus funds is. going to be you know going into actually. getting my house that I live in. finishing the projects that I've started. and then I'm going to have a nice. generous chunk of equity in there and. that's going to be my. springboard but we'll see you know I've. got other things going on you know I'm. going to be going down the end of next. month to meet with the rumble guys and.

we're going to I'm going to see what. they're going to propose to me good but. they're you know they've I've seen some. projections that you know if I get X. number of views I can actually get some. uh start getting some serious revenue. streams going from it good and for yeah. and so that's going to go towards I've. been for a couple years now researching. land east of here looking at Eastern. Tennessee and uh I think that's probably. where I'm going to try to relocate well.

you'd make a hell of a neighbor so I so. I I'd be proud to be your neighbor thank. you. Sean hang out more we could I'd get you. out there and I could show you some cool. stuff about building I would love what. here my vision is that I would like to. take a piece of land and utilize the. ancient. principles which you know starts with. things like simple but really cool like. putting a pole in the ground and using. that pole to determine the.

directions and all the alignments and. you don't just build at random you build. you Orient it towards the Towards the. Sky like they always did um that's a. universal principle we find over and. over every continent where we find. ancient sacred structures they're. orienting to the movements of the. heavens well how would you hold on how. do you do that with a pole then when. what are you orienting in too well okay. so first thing you do is you put a pole. in the ground and then you would draw a.

circle around it now in the old days. they would use a knotted rope or a chain. with lengths and you could determine the. length the Chain by the number of links. and typically a lot of the chains that. came from Europe they the the links were. carefully manufactured to be 792. de which is interesting um because then. you get certain numbers like.

7,920 Ines right and that gives you some. interesting geometric correlations but. anyways like. what well correlations like um like one. of the ancient units of measurement is a. furong and the only place that I know of. that a furong is still used today is in. horse racing it's 1/8 of a mile 660 ft. well if you translate that into inches.

it's 7,920. in now. interestingly if you took the Earth you. know the Earth is not perfectly. spherical it's rotating so its mass. moves towards the equator it's called an. oblate. spheroid. right so the the diameter of the earth. varies by 26 miles the equator is 26 Mi. longer than the polar diameter no [ __ ] I.

have no idea yeah hey if it wasn't for. that man we'd be. screwed we Earth would be wobbling all. over the [ __ ]. place yeah so you can think of it this. way if you traveled from the equator to. the North Pole you've gone downhill by. 13 miles interesting yeah so that. oblateness it acts like a f flywheel. that stabilizes the Earth right. um so it goes from equator.

7,926 mil give or take a little bit pole. 7,900 26 mil different diameter so if. you go from the the center the geometric. center of the earth out to the surface. you know the difference is 13 miles. between equator and. pole but if you took a perfectly. spherical Earth. the air the diameter of that perfectly. spherical Earth that had the same.

surface area as the actual Earth it'd be. 7,920. mil same number of miles as there is. inches in a. furong now you could argue well that's. just a coincidence of course I mean but. interestingly if you took and I I you. know in my building business I have a. fiberglass measuring tape it's 150 ft. long I've gone out into huge fields and. parking lots and I've laid out a.

furong right I've brought people out we. lay out 660 ft like in a in a pavement. of a parking lot then I mark off one. inch and I say look at that inch now. look at and I'll have somebody walk all. the way down 600 that's over two. football fields it's two football fields. plus another 120 ft walk on all the way. down to the end of that furong and stand. there they way down in the distance. waving okay so now look at that now.

we're going to Mark out one inch and I. have say here do this take your thumb. put it down there and I take a piece of. chalk and Mark either side of their. thumb and I go okay there's one inch. that's where the inch came from it was. originally the the digit of your thumb. just like the foot just like the Cubit. elbow to fingertip. right that inch that we just marked to. this furong is the same ratio as one.

mile is to the diameter of the. earth that's a very interesting mental. exercise to do yeah right yeah but that. number shows up in a bunch of other. interesting places as well there's a. legend about Joseph of. Aria who was generally considered to be. the uncle of Jesus Christ. and it was in his house that the last. supper was held right where Jesus had.

the cup and they Dr all the disciples. drank of the cup um and ate of the. Wafers it was all. ritualized it was Joseph of arthea that. went to Pontius Pilate after the. crucifixion and asked pilate to release. the body of Christ. to. him and pilate didn't didn't believe.

that Jesus was already dead because he'd. only been on the cross 6 hours and. crucifixion was designed to be a long. slow agonizing death so pilate sends the. Centurion out he says go see if he's. actually dead this the tail goes and you. have to kind of piece it together from. the four gospels Centurion goes out. pierces the sight of Christ describes. blood and water issuing forth but there. was no response from the from the body. hanging across he goes back and he says.

yeah he's dead I stuck him with the. Lance and he didn't respond he's dead so. so pilate says to Joseph Marth yeah go. ahead take the body so he goes up there. and he takes the body down and according. to the legend now this isn't in in the. Bible but according to the legend and. the stories he had this cup that was. used at the Last Supper and he caught. the blood and the water coming out of. the side of Christ he sealed it up and. after a whole series of Adventures post. crucifixion he eventually makes his way.

to England and he presents himself to a. tribal Chieftain there named. AOS and he comes there with 12 disciples. and he tells AOS he's there to establish. a new. church and AOS gives him 12 hides of. land a hide is an ancient British un of. land measurement that's equal to 120. Acres so 12 hides of land means.

1,440 Acres now that's a Bible that has. recurred reiteratively reiteratively in. the Bible there's a there's in the uh. Book of Revelations it describes the. holy city descending from God out of. heaven and it has a uh it's 12,000. furlongs in the King James uh the length. the height and the breadth of it are. equal the city lith Four Square. and the length the height and the. breadth of it are equal 12,000. furlongs okay well turn 12,000 furlongs.

into feet you get 7, 920,000 ft lob the. last three zeros off and you've now got. 7,920 interesting now Joseph and Mara. gets this sacred. Precinct at the center of the Sacred. Precinct he builds a little circular. Church 39.6 ft in diameter how do we. know that well because. every time the original circular church. at the center of the Sacred precinct.

which was. 1,440 Acres 12 time 12 hides of land. right every time it fell into disrepair. it was repaired or restored and the. original dimension of that Circle was. carefully preserved all the way down. until the Middle Ages uh thousand years. later and an Abbey was built there and a. um a small Chapel was built adjacent to. the Abbey and it was built in the form. of a rectangle but the width of that.

rectangle preserved the original. diameter of that circular church that. was at the center of the Sacred Precinct. 1440 Acres well if you then take that. 1440 acres and draw it as a square we. don't know for sure if it was a square. but if you did that square on its side. would be. 7,920. ft so in other words the fur the inch to.

the furong is the same as the mile to. the Earth the foot to the side of the. Sacred Precinct at Glastonberry where. this is happening in England is the same. it's 1 foot to 7,000 7,920 ft so the. foot is to the side of the Sacred. Precinct in the same ratio. I could keep going with examples like. this see and this is where it gets to me. really kind of weird and bizarre because.

you know you're the skeptic the. reductionist is going to immediately. kneejerk it's all just a coincidence. you're playing with numbers but it. happens over and over and over again and. it's almost as if there is this. proportional. template that well the way you know the. way it's been described is the ancient. Master Builders were attling to. replicate the processes by which God. built the universe this is why. Freemasons refer to God as the great.

architect because God was working God. geometries sometimes Freemasons refer to. God as the grand geometrician H that all. of creation has this geometry inherent. in it and when you start. looking yeah it's there yeah you can see. it or to the point where no you can not. dismiss this as coincidence anymore yeah. there's some kind of a pattern here and.

I don't claim to ultimately know what it. is but I can show examples and in my. classes and lectures and I show example. after example after example and how. there's a certain set of numbers that. recur over and over and over again and. they're found on sacred structures all. over the world yep I I've seen a lot of. documentaries covering the the the. pyramids yeah have you seen the work of. uh Robert. um uh Robert Edward Grant I've been.

eyeing him up yeah check out his work. he's done some amazing things on all the. pyramids on the Giza plateau and again. what we you mentioned earlier about. moving big stones and frequencies he's. done some really interesting work. showing and I I had a recent uh. interview with him I was on his podcast. and he showed me this is one of the few. uh interviews I've ever done where the. host talked more than I did um.

so I was I was all ears though I was. absorbing it and I was sitting there. with my calculator factchecking. everything he's saying you know yeah. okay yep and then there was the overlap. you know honing in on the number. 432 which is interesting 432 recurs over. and over again in uh in the Samaran King. lists uh the total number of a lot of.

the the Samaran the total number of the. 10 Kings of ancient pre- delug or anti-. deluvian Kings the reign of the 10 Kings. the mythical Kings is 432,000 years and. then when you go to the viic traditions. of India um you have the what are called. the yugas these great grand cycles of. global Earth change. and they are all built upon a sequence. that goes 1 2 3 and four and the the.

shortest Epoch is the Kaluga. 432,000 years so from the viic tradition. it gets the same number as the total of. the 10 the Reigns of the 10 mythical. kings in ancient Samaria then you go. double that double that is 864,000. triple that is 1, 296,000 and if you lob a few zeros off. that you have.

12,960 which is within one century of. the last great Global catastrophe which. was the younger dasas now science has. dated that event and said yeah here's. this Global catastrophe without any. reference at all to the fact that these. numbers show up in ancient Traditions. talking about these great epocal Cy of. time what is the god frequency you is it. I don't know what that is I've heard of. it and I I I don't know I wish I could.

answer every question that everybody has. but I can't yeah I don't have my phone. on me back to the so re reason I'm I'm. curious I told you I'm building the. studio yeah so the pole what do you all. your buildings do you put the pole in. the ground and then you choose a. length should be some sacred length. right you draw a. circle now the pole should have a sharp.

point on the end and now when the Sun. rises in the East it's going to cast a. shadow to the West right now let's say. the sun you know wherever it is whatever. time of year it is um if it's um after. summer solstice it's going to rise in. the Southeast if it's for the summer. solstice that's going to rise in the. Northeast but in either case as the sun. is rising if you got a picture in your.

head the sun is rising up it's arcing. over excuse me at High Noon the sun it's. so solar noon that Sun is going to be. the highest in the sky that it's going. to be for that day and then it swings. down and it it it sets in the. west okay now as it's rising in the east. there's a long Shadow that's cast to the. West now two things are happening as the.

sun is rising the shadow is getting. shorter but it's also swinging around so. that at High Noon when the sun is due. south at its culminating. Point as it's called in its in the Arc. of its position in the sky the shadow of. the pole is going to be pointing due. south right so now you've got right. there you got a southerly direction. defined right there for you by the pole.

now as the sun is rising the the shadow. it's like this the sun is rising the. shadow is swinging around but it's also. getting shorter so at some point. depending on how big your circle is and. how far it is removed from the from the. the pole at some point at some time. during midm morning say maybe 9:00 10:00. the shadow which is getting shorter and. shorter you've drawn this circle around.

it right now the shadow is getting. shorter and the point of that. shadow when it touches the circle you've. drawn you drive a stake there into the. ground now the shadow get shorter and. shorter it's going to be the shortest. that it is at noon when it's due south. then as the Sun is setting in the west. the Shadows swinging around and growing. long again and then you got to have. somebody there obviously but then at the. point when late.

afternoon the Shadow the point of the. Shadow hits your circle you drive a. second stake there you string a line. between them and that's an East West. line and now you've got your north south. axis and you've got your East West line. and so now you've laid out the four. cardinal directions now from there you. can begin to use geometry to lay out. whatever you want you want to a square. you use geometry you want a rectangle. you want a circle you want an ellipse. from that point you're working see now.

you've you've created a essentially the. the two fundamentals of a cartisian. coordinate system an x-axis and a y AIS. right M and now you can lay out any. geometry you want on it if you know the. rules of geometry we're doing that we're. going to do that I'm call I'm going to. call my Builder out right now Austin. okay we're resetting those flags. buddy I like that yeah that's cool I. love that I got to I tell you what I'm. going to uh I got to get my phone here.

because talking about all these numbers. here that's weird it's. 111 uh oh that's interesting I got to. know the god frequency here real. quick I've heard it but I I couldn't. tell you what it was. though I'm into frequency stuff well. yeah. 963. Hertz 963 Hertz well okay so 9 + 6 + 3.

that's 18 1 + 8 is 9 the whole set of. these numbers pretty much like think of. it 432 4 + 3 + 2 9. 7920 7 + 9 + 2 18 1 + 8 is 9 uh. we could go over and look at the the. yugas I said. 864,000 for the daap Pari Yuga 8 + 6 + 4.

18 1 + 8 is 9 the trade of Yuga. 12,900 or 1, 296,000 so 1 + 2 + 9 + 6 18 1 + 8 is 9. over and over again interesting yeah um. interesting let's see if I have. something open here uh here is the. dionic. scale so you've. got for example the Octave of C vibrates.

at. 528 cycles per second. 528 right uh. the the uh G vibrates at. 396 cycles per second so there's G and. there's C now. I said that the original circular church. was 39.6 ft 369 369 396 well what those.

numbers just keep intermingling yeah so. take the 39.6 * 10 you have 396 which is. the vibrational rate in cycles per. second of. g c is. 528 add a zero onto that now you you got. the number of feet in m in a mile Now. where's the origin of the mile I've. looked it up I've tried to find nope I.

can't find anything it's just apparently. very very old now we can go to. Stonehenge and Stonehenge is laid out on. a geometric template if you draw a. circle around the outer face of the Big. sarson Stone Sandstone. Circle it's right at. 105.6 FT that's the diameter so if I was. going to recreate Stone hinge I would go. out and I would draw a circle 105.6 ft.

in diameter from a. center and then for the blue stone which. is a rolly. Stone I would draw a circle that's 79.2. ft in diameter or the radius my my chain. my rope whatever I'm using would be 39.6. ft in radius and I would draw a circle. and I would now have 79. 2 ft and that. is the diameter of the Blue Stone Circle. within a few inches at stonehinge the.

outer surface 15.6 multiply that times 5. what do you get do you got a calculator. on your phone I do try that put in. 105.6 and multiply times. 5. 753 you sure. 105 let me. 105.6 times five you get 528 excuse me. there we go yeah five or yeah.

528 multiply it by what did you multiply. that by five five so if you multiply it. by 50 you've got a mile yep yep is that. a coincidence. no and then the average distance between. the big sarson Stone uprights the lenal. length is also 10.56 ft so it looks like.

they were using a unit of measurement. that was a sub multiple of a mile when. they built stonehinge 4,000 some years. ago what is stonehinge what is it I. think it's part of an ancient technology. that's that's the only thing that makes. sense to me I think all of these ancient. structures that are using this. orientation to the heavens that's what. they've got in common they have a common. geometry a common orientation and. there's another Factor. too it also seems that they're they're. not located.

randomly they're. placed auspiciously with respect to the. geometry the work of what was his name. I've interviewed him. um if IID had more than four hours of. sleep in two days I would be a little. bit quicker on the ball here. um um it'll come to me a sec he's. written a book he's written a number of. books on the. geomantic principles behind the sighting. of these ancient structures and he's.

documented hundreds of sites and shows. to a high more than is coincident that. they are located with respect to the. geological structures particularly fault. lines in the earth which opens up an. interesting realm of possibilities. because there's other research that. suggests that frequency and vibration. yes and fault lines you know a fault. line is different say than just a. fracture a fracture you've got a crack.

in the earth that's static but a fault. line those rocks are moving with respect. to each other under pressure and that. right there creates interesting. possibilities about in terms of the the. effects on the geomagnetic. field um I'm in the infancy of trying to. figure this out there's some other. people who gone further than this than I. I have but I think it's part of the. whole the whole Canon of. of uh principles that are employed in.

these ancient sacred structures number. one you get somebody out and I do I'm a. Believer in gmany I've seen it work in. my Building Trades I have seen what are. called Dowsers at work and seen major. companies uh government agencies uh. others that have actually almost. secretly. employed water Dowsers and uh divers to.

determine what my first experience was. about 1974 or 75 I got hired to build a. pole barn and so the the client had. bought. 15 used telephone poles that he had and. he called me and said is there some way. we can use these to build a barn I said. yeah well let's build a pole barn well. just we'll put we'll put the poles into. the ground vertically and then I'll just. frame a structure onto this thing you.

know I'll run pearings around to tie. them all together I can build a roof I. can finish it off all of that and um he. said okay so we had a a building site. there uh where where I was going to. build this Barn so B this back then you. could call Mel this was the the. telephone company that handled North. Georgia. right you call them up and they would. charge $8 a poll they would send their.

augur truck out they would drill the. hole and then they use their boom and. they would set the pole for you it's. pretty good deal $8 so we had 15 poles. so what I did was I went out I figured. out the layout of this and every place I. was going to have a poll I so I had it. three rows of five each that was a 15. and I remember they were what like 15. feet apart or something anyways at each. point where I wanted to put a pole I. drove a steak in the ground so I had 15. staks in three rows call Mell phone.

company they their auger truck comes out. there's two guys up into the front of. the cab in their mobell uniforms and. then in the in the back this guy gets. out he's real tall skinny guy might have. been. 6566 overalls in an old wrinkled hat. carrying what looked like a violin case. gets out of the back of the truck comes. walking down looking the sight over.

these other two guys are standing up at. the truck waiting I'm going okay who's. this guy what's he doing you know so I'm. standing aside there you know while he's. comes out he opens up his case and he. takes out two swing rods now you know. what swing rods are I don't okay so let. me explain what a swing Rod now in. there's different ways you can make. swing swing rods right what he had done. was he had taken the old-fashioned. automobile. antennas and you know the telescoping.

kind and had a little ball on the end. and he had two of those and he'd cut it. off so that the larger outer sleeve was. about maybe this long to where you could. grip it then he bent it at. 90° and so it was free to. swivel so he had two of those they're. referred to in the in the dowsing field. as swing rck. s yeah I'm looking I'm what the hell is. this what the hell is he doing and I'm. looking up at these guys and I'm and.

they they were kind of like I remember. they were kind of chuckling or something. because I'm standing here I got my tool. belt on and you know like. Wonder while under this is I'm sure that. they're not pulling my leg you know but. anyway so he goes and he starts. walking with the swing rods holding them. in front of them over each of the stakes. I had driven in the ground and as he. walks on now meanwhile as he's walking. they're just kind of gently swaying back. and. forth he steps over them and as he step.

over each steak he'd holler up to the. guys at the truck. clear he walked over all 15 of my stakes. in the ground and said. clear now between me and the main house. there was a like a a garage building and. the driveway to the property came in and. went to that garage building and I knew. that the water man came into the. property somewhere along there and it. probably crossed the the the driveway to.

get to the. house so this guy he goes walking over. towards the. driveway and he gets about Midway across. the. driveway and I'm watching this whole. time I'm about as far away from him as. you know probably one end to the other. of this room we're. in all of a sudden it like almost as if. somebody had grabbed the ends of those. swing rods yanked them into an X and. then they bent they bent like I could.

see him bending literally bending down. and then he took a couple of steps off. and they relaxed straightened up and. went back to just then what he did was. he walked in a zigzag. fashion and every time he crossed where. the water man came in he get a response. and I could see it I could see the. response and it was it was pretty.

impressive and just then the owner comes. out and he says yeah yeah I think the. waterm does come in right there and I'm. looking at. it this is [ __ ] interesting then he. turns to me he says you want to try. it I look at the guys at the truck sure. why not he gives me those swing rods and. I go walking. I stepped across that point and I felt. like I got you know how you like if you. get a strong charge of static. electricity that's what it felt like.

I've actually heard of this before yeah. and and and. I it felt like somebody grabbed the. ends of those rods and swung them into. an X now I've tried it since then and. I've gotten a a response but never like. that first time I I mean I don't know I. was caught off guard or something I was. and maybe it also had something to do. with him being there right now since. then I've known probably half a dozen.

other people I gave several lectures to. the uh Appalachian Society of Dowsers. back in the 90s and I got to know a. bunch of these people that were like. literally like Contracting out to to you. know building contractors to other. things literally people who were paying. them money. and you know if you read the scientific. literature you know oh it's skeptical. it's you know it's you know they have. these tests where statistically there's.

no indication that there's any greater. uh effect of that but I totally think it. has to do that there's really subjective. things going on here because like first. of all I've tried it a lot since then. and and gotten mild responses but never. anything like that first time where it. was it was was shocking it was actually. shocking to me um but after that I came. to believe yes there are these energies.

and and humans can detect and we know. animals detect GE changes in the. geomagnetic field and why is it so. incredible that moving water underground. or moving water in a fault line or two. mineral or crystallin. deposits moving into each other couldn't. create. enough anomalies or fluctuations in the. geomagnetic field that they could be. detected and if you have people now and.

and back I knew guys now I I wasn't. there but I knew guys friends of mine or. not friends of mine but acquaintances of. mine that were Marin in Vietnam and they. use Dowsers to find. landmines now they would not have done. you can look up even on there's still. like photographs on online of of some of. these guys I heard about it you know. this was years and years ago I think I. was telling people somebody like I had a. a friend who was my neighbor who was an. ex-marine and I was telling him this.

story he was my neighbor at the time. this happened he said oh yeah we we had. guys in in Vietnam that would use those. to find underground tunnels find. landmines and um yeah and I've looked up. online since then you can actually see. the pictures of these guys so like my. thought was okay they would not be using. this if it was just all. BS there's something to it now circling. around I think these ancient Builders. were using something similar to.

determine like for example when they put. that pole in the ground it wasn't just. placed randomly like for example you can. look at some of the some of the temples. like shark Cathedral is a good example. which I highly recommend shark. Cathedral there's a series of fault. lines that intersect directly under the. holy Altar and you can go down there's a. crypt down below the altar you can go. into and there's a well and you can see. right down into the well the water table.

now here's another interesting. coincidence if you take that flagstone. pavement which is the floor when you. walk into the cathedral the height of. the Vault it's like roughly around 120. ft above the the paving stones of the. floor is the same distance above as the. water table is. below is that a coincidence again see. these kind of things you can multiply. them over and over and over again you.

get to the point well okay so maybe we. should hypothesize that there's there's. a method to this madness. MH I can't say that I know what it is I. think you know maybe we can recover I. mean what I'm interested in doing is and. there's there's people like I mentioned. Robert Edward Grant and others that I. know I think we're kind of in this phase. right now where it's essentially trying. to reverse. engineer what these peoples of long ago. were up to with all of this stuff yeah.

and um and I ultimately think it's. technological it's fascinating stuff. isn't it isn't it though oh yeah yeah I. mean I got pictures I could pull up and. show you right here of my my 15 poles I. got took pictures of it we'll get them. from you and put them up on on screen I. mean that brings us into I think plasma. technology yeah like lightning bolt. technology yeah what is it lightning. bolts that's plasma ball. lightning the sun is plasma right um.

Aurora Borealis the Northern Lights is. plasma it's the fourth state of matter. it's what happens when the electrons and. the neutrons become completely. disassociated solid liquid gas degrees. of freedom between electrons and. neutrons right even in a gas there's. still there's still bonds but when you. get to plasma they completely break free. so now you have electrons neutrons.

become ions and because they're. electrically charged they can be. influenced by magnetic fields and they. also have this tendency to self organize. under the right conditions if you apply. the right. frequency it's like they spontaneously. organize into toroidal forms and then. what happens is that you know if you. look at a Taurus in cross-section it. looks like an infinity sign but picture.

kind of a donut here here's what you do. visualize a sphere with a North Pole and. a South Pole and now let's say you. collapse that sphere so that the North. Pole and the South Pole meet at the. Equator so now you've got this like. indentation in the North and the South. what happen cones. yeah like cones if you they're like. cones right well what happens and this. is again this is I'm rudimentary in.

understanding this right but what then. happens is that you get this electron or. ion or both stream that starts cycling. down that that what do you want to call. it what did you just call it cone a what. cone funnel start slight yeah perfect. starts spiraling down that funnel and as. it's spiraling down it's it's increasing. and increasing in rotational velocity.

now in the northern hemisphere say it's. going clockwise and in the southern it's. going. counterclockwise and they meet at the. equatorial. plane and that's where something really. interesting happens that I don't. understand but you've got this. accelerating rotation faster and faster. coming down literally to the microscopic. level and then those two whirling.

vortices meet each. other something happens there that's. almost Supernatural and I can't claim to. know what it is but that's the basis of. the of the plasma. technology. and that creates. well in the machines that are being. developed they work by generating. microscopic cavitation Bubbles and then.

those cavitation bubbles are subject to. very rapid vacuum and pressure vacuum. and pressure because if they're fed into. like say a a a a a a generator or a. combustion uh a a a fossil fuel based. any engine of any kind where you got. Pistons moving up and down um the. movement down will create a compression. phase and then the moving up will create.

a a vacuum phase and what'll happen is. the microscopic bubbles the cavitation. bubbles collapse on their axes they form. these perfect Tauruses that now initiate. this. self-organization process of the. plasmoids and they can now be harvested. from. that in that machine that's creating. these Bubbles and then they're fed into.

a series of tubes and uh cylinders and. spheres that are carefully machined to. very specific and precise ratios and. it's for example one end you'll got a. sphere with an opening in it and the. plasmas are fed into that under high. pressure. and in that sphere they start. whirling and there's a thing that's and. I'm still trying to understand how it.

works the hch vortex tube which um can. actually. create uh two vortices one whirling one. way and then another one inside it. whirling the other way and it can. actually separate you can feed in um air. at room temperature and it separates. that into a hot and cold end and that. differential can be up to a couple.

hundred degrees difference again I can. we can pull up and I can provide you. with the the graphics and stuff to to. help understand. this the thunderstorm generator. so-called works on the same. principle except what what it does is it. creates it has a cylinder that's within. a cylinder within a cylinder a sphere. within a sphere within a. sphere now here's where it gets. interesting is because okay you feed the.

plasmas in they start this whirling and. one Vortex whirls down One. Direction the other is fed in it whirls. in the other direction and then they're. both fed back to where they meet so. you've got this cold and this hot front. meeting that's why it's called a. thunderstorm because it's operating on. the same Principle as like a cold front. and you like cold what happens at a cold. front meets a hot front or a warm front. and it discharges begins discharging. lightning it starts discharging.

plasmas right so this thunderstorm. generator can now be hooked up to any. kind of internal combustion engine to a. generator um and something really. bizarre. happens and I've I was reluctant to talk. about it you know I went on Rogan show. um with Graham Hancock a year ago last. November and I had already been in.

contact with Malcolm one of the. preeminent inventors and and developers. of technological applications of. plasmas I hadn't decided yet whether he. was for real or not but I'd been talking. to him distance for over seven years in. his nor St story never changed H right. and I took careful note of that and I. began looking in some of the things that. he claimed as sources and they all.

checked out going back to Nicola Tesla. right coming up through like half a. dozen other researchers that had had. worked in some capacity trying to. develop Technologies around this plasma. energy like learning how to contain. plasma and then extract energy from it. um so then. and I'm not going to get into all the. details it's because it's a pretty wild. story but. um uh I love the.

details I know but I'm like okay so I go. on Rogan with Graham. Hancock and Graham invited me to go on. with him we'd been on there before. several multiple times and I had you. know when Graham was researching his. books and stuff in at least one case I'd. been out in the field with them at least. a couple of times take guiding them and. showing them evidence in the landscape. for these tremendous catastrophic events.

which he then documents like in the book. magicians of the Gods I think there's. two chapters in there devoted to our our. travels together and the things that I. was showing them well. anyways before we go in he says you know. um because you know Graham has been. attacked left and right by the. mainstream guys that the the. archaeological establishment and all he. says let's not get into on this one. let's not get into talking about ancient. technology okay if you don't want to I'm. fine I'm happy to talk about mass.

extinctions or giant floods or asteroid. impacts or whatever I'm sure yeah well. then the issue came up of the ancient. Builders and how they moved 200 ton. Stones so Joe is like well did they have. some technological. means and if you go back and watch that. November Show from. like they kind of like both look at. me uh well wait a minute now like I'm. thinking I just said I was not going to.

talk about that right so I kind of I was. evasive uh but Joe you can you can like. you'll see like I'm trying to not talk. about Jo no come on what what do you you. know so I mentioned that well I've been. talking to this inventor for about s. years and he's been developing these. Technologies using plasma that's. frequency. based right and at this point I already. knew that the thunderstorm generator and. I'll show you pictures of one now that's.

been retrofitted on a 300 kilowatt. generator on a substation outside of. London and they're testing the damn. thing and it works does what it's. predicted to do. right I mentioned that he was on an. island where he'd gone because there had. actually been a couple of attempts on. his life so he he'd been he was an oil. prospector. and he discovered oil in Tasmania and. one of the big oil companies was trying. to rest the license away from him so. they did a whole smear job against them.

started paying off journalists and. Tasmanian government officials and stuff. to and and trying to create you know. portray him as a as a grifter and all. this to to scare away investors because. they were trying to this company had. overstated their reserves by about 30%. and they were going to get in some major. trouble and they did get in major. trouble and 2003 the entire Board of. this company re resigned um and I I've.

double checked that now one of the. things that's leading up to this when. I'm still like okay should I be. believing all of this well here well let. me before I jump to that like so so I. kind of outed the guy inadvertently. because he had told me that because of. what the the history of these kind of. alternative energies not making it out. he decided he was going to use a. different strategy he was going to open. source. everything all of his notes and he had.

spent seven years writing up his notes. several thousand pages of notes and. schematics and diagrams he had patent. applications all of this he was going to. open source and he asked me cuz he had. no connections and I had already was. building up quite a audience and he. asked me when he first called me he said. he told me this he said I've been. working on this plasma energy and it's. based on frequencies and these. frequencies are connected to these.

ancient sacred. numbers and he said I watched a. podcast and it was you giving a lecture. and you were talking about ancient. numbers and the numbers you were. mentioning were exactly the numbers that. I found made this technology work for. example the ratios of the Spheres have. to be in in the ratio of 4: 3. to2 and if they weren't in those proper.

ratios you didn't get the. effect right so he's telling me all of. this and saying said you know the reason. I'm reaching out to you is because I'm. thinking you're probably one of the only. people in the world I can talk to about. what I'm. doing well I'm honored if if this is all. real well so after on. Rogan I outed him now he was off. traveling somewhere and he got so. freaked out he never went back to his.

laboratory he came right over to. America and I was. scheduled now this uh so this would have. been November a year ago. November so I also mentioned the car. manufacturer Mazda who had expressed. interest in the technology now I don't. think they've gone forward with it but. at the time I didn't realize because I.

thought he'd given me the green light. I'm going to open source it so you know. I'm going to put it all out there yeah. okay. so um turns out that um he had a and his. small group of potential investors had. signed a non-disclosure agreement with. Mazda and here I am on Joe roken. shooting big mouth off you know. innocently blabbing. away so like the next day within a day. or two I get a call from Roland Perry.

who was probably Australia's bestselling. author and he's also an investigative. reporter and has some pretty high level. connections with Australian intelligence. and so on I get a call from this guy and. he's telling me well you know you just. outed. Malcolm but it's cool it's going to be. okay because don't get freaked out you. know um so one of the high UPS a guy who. was with.

um fell who has a international passport. with World Bank who was one of the. people who are involved in looking at. this technology I didn't realize this he. had jumped on a flight and immediately. went to Japan to do damage control from. me shooting my big mouth off but it. turned out okay I guess because Within. in a few days their stock went up very. interesting yeah but so he came to. America I was uh I had scheduled to go.

down to do an interview with Tucker. Carlson so I went down to his studio in. in Florida boka Grand just south of. Sarasota was in the hotel there and the. inventor shows up Malcolm he shows up so. I stayed a few extra days we went. through a lot of stuff I left went back. to Atlanta he stayed on it turned out he. went and got a beachfront a room in a.

beachfront Resort and it turned out the. manager of the place. was a Randall Carlson fan so he gave. Malcolm to run to the place and it a lot. of it they had had a restaurant and all. this there that had closed down during. Co so he gave Malcolm to Keys said use. it for whatever you want so we set up a. little like a mini podcast studio in. there and we then had an interview with. a man by the name of K Carpenter who is.

uh the founder of the India Foundation. which is a liaison between the French. government the Indian government so we. had this interview with him he took it. took this information to the Indian. government and they were very interested. in it so now I'm going to skip some of. the details but fast forward to last. summer now okay. so so Joe asked me to come back on to. talk about.

um the the. technology so we agreed to that I would. come back in February and then um so I. went back on Joe's show but Malcolm the. adventor was here in. America and he came up to Atlanta to. tutor me in the technology so we put. together a a big slideshow over 200. slides which I have right here on mine.

and then he gave a series of. lectures as as he then went through the. slides he he gave lectures on that and. um so then I had this invitation to go. back on Joe's to talk about the. technology well here I had the inventor. right here with me so I contacted Joe. and I said I've got the inventor with me. you want to bring him on he said sure So. myself him George Howard who I mentioned.

earlier runs the cosmic Tusk website and. so on he went with um couple of other. friends that went with we we drove down. there and I did went in there and myself. and Malcolm sat down and Jaimie had. found this stuff from the 90s and the. early 2000s. online where goes back to this. controversy where they were trying to. get the license away from Malcolm.

interesting so it was basically a series. of hit. pieces that I had already I'd had this. conversation with Roland Perry in this. long he called me we had this long. conversation and he said yeah I spent. four years investigating Malcolm so all. the stuff he's telling you is real and. I've seen the technology. work okay and I knew it was Roland Perry. I mean he sent me links and you know I. watched videos that he was on so that.

boosted my confidence quite a bit that. this was all real but basically what. happened was I had this slideshow we had. put. together. and this paperwork Jamie puts on so so. Joe was looking at this stuff when we. just walk in now he knows nothing about. any of this except what he's seeing is. that you know trying to portray Malcolm. as a religious nut and a bunch of other. weird stuff that I had already seen you.

know and i' talked about it with Roland. Perry and he said yeah this was all part. of this smear campaign just like they've. done with grahe Hancock just like. they've done with all these people you. you try to discredit them um but the key. here is this regard even if all that was. true which it isn't but even if if it. was the technology works his invention. works okay so we went on the show and.

Joe you know saw this stuff and thought. okay who is this guy that randle's. brought in here he's a he's a grifter so. it got contentious and I'm if it ever. airs you'll see me constantly trying to. steer the conversation I've got the. slideshow open there I'm saying come on. guys let's look at the science here yeah. but they were going at each other and. when it was over we go out and Joe calls. me aside and says hey and and and the.

thing is is by the end of this I'm. thinking you know people are going to go. oh gosh Randall is you know promoting. this grifter he's promoting this Cod man. and I'm thinking oh [ __ ] what you know. I'm already thinking about the. ramifications of this and I'm going man. this is this is going to be this is. going to throw serious. upheaval in my life and then Joe calls. me to the side as we're going out and he. says hey you okay with you if I sat on.

this for a while while I figure out and. I said it was like yeah sit on as long. as you. want um and so it never has it never has. aired which is fine with me because it. was it just it got so off track um and I. wanted to stick to the science now I. knew at the time this is February a year. ago last month I knew knew that there. was a whole series of testing coming up. the next summer which was last summer. and I was present at some of these tests. and saw for myself what was happening.

and was able to there with one an. admiral a retired Admiral from the. Indian Navy flew all the way over from. India to to be there present at this. testing that was at a major industrial. laboratory at one of the research Labs. out in Raleigh North Carolina that's all. at this point that I can say about it. but. until the final test results are. published but I was there saw it working.

saw two generators a control generator. and one with the technology I watched as. the engineers and the scientists there. calibrated them both and then I was the. one who went up and started both. generators they're both in two separate. rooms um started the technology on one. of the. generators and so we've got readouts. we've got we've got gas analyzers there.

probes going up into the exhaust of the. generators we've got a couple of guys. there with mass spectrometers hooked up. so we've got multiple ways of. determining what's coming out of the. exhaust pipes of these two generators. right yep we flip I go up there and I. flip the switch on the one that has the. the thunderstorm I'll call it the. thunderstorm the plasma generating. retrofit to. it and we watch so we got a first read I. can show you actually I've got a print.

out of the the readouts right here on my. computer really yeah I do and you can. see um the uh you've got it was the I. think it's called a cane five something. because it it it uh measures five gases. uh carbon dioxide carbon monoxide. nitrous nitrogen oide other methane. other hydrocarbons probably like methane. and whatever else and. oxygen okay.

so flip the technology on you can sit. there I can watch the mass spectrometer. I can watch the gas analyzer you're. looking at like 10% or parts per million. uh let's see carbon carbon dioxide. carbon monoxide and oxygen were in. percentages methane and nitrogen oxide. were in parts per. million so basically oxygen is like at a. four five% coming out of the the the.

exhaust which is about typical for a. generator like that you got I think like. 10 11 was a 12% of CO2. Co um Etc so as you're watching it. here's what. happens the carbon dioxide carbon. monoxide methane uh hydrocarbons and. nitrogen oxides start going down oxygen. starts coming up interesting CO2 Zero's.

out carbon monoxide Zero's out the. nitrogen oxides go down to just a few. parts per million as does the other. hydrocarbons oxygen tops out at over 20. I don't remember exactly between 20 and. 21% which is OPP. Optimum percentage of oxygen for pure. unpolluted air so what is now coming out. of the generator the the the generator.

with the. technology is pure unpolluted air no. kidding no. kidding no kidding yeah on top of that. the what it's doing it's capturing. everything that's coming out and it's. feeding it back into the thunderstorm. gener at so at the. initial you in order to get the the. plasma separation to occur I think you. have to get it up to like 700 and some.

degrees but once you do that it's almost. not quite but almost self-. perpetuating and you just have to. replenish the water like I forget how. however few hundred hours that it runs. you have to replenish the. water and that's. it man and you've seen this. oh yeah I've seen. it and I've known you know multiple. people now that have seen it the Admiral. he took it back to India India is.

seriously looking at it and as as a. retrofit for their Navy man the the. industrial and I can show you this on. the computer too I've got photographs of. like the the big industrial scale. application on the 300 kilowatt Perkin. generator on the substation in London. I mean they're they're testing it and. and and they may start retrofitting all. of their gen because it doubles to. triples the.

efficiency of these. engines wow yeah wow and you think that. they had this back in ancient times some. iteration of it I. suspect I suspect and. here it just gets more bizarre as we go. on when you create these vortexes you. start this spiral motion inside the. sphere and then it travels down so you. got an outer cylinder and an inner. cylinder and one Vortex is be inside the.

outer but outside the inner does that. make sense yeah then the next Vortex. going in the opposite direction and the. opposite spin is. inside the next cylinder okay now in. order to. transition from. and again and I I can show you this on. here because I've got photographs of all. the components how they fit together. videos of them being assembled into the.

machine shops right here on this laptop. so you can see it. um you can't like if you have a sphere. and you just cut a round hole in it you. stick a cylinder onto it it's got this. like sharp edge and that would induce. turbulence that would affect this. coherent organized Vortex that forms. so you have to have a. transition between the cylinder and the. sphere to prevent that turbulence from. being.

introduced. experimentation has shown that one angle. seems to be Optimum for minimizing the. introduction of the. turbulence what do you think that angle. is I don't know 51.84 de. slope to base of kuf Fu's. pyramid another. coincidence I don't.

know but that leads me to think okay. I've suspected all along that these. pyramids and these structures are part. of an ancient technological system. probably somewhat along the lines of the. principles of Nicola. Tesla right who was able to generate. energy by setting up some kind of a. relationship between the Earth and the. ionosphere I don't know what's going on. there I'm still trying to figure out. listen I'm in I was in kindergarten two.

years ago now I'm in first grade. but when I was there at this testing I'm. seeing these scientists physicists and. Engineers stuff they're all scratching. their heads going okay we see we see. this but they've been struggling for a. year now to explain what is actually. happening there's a fellow by the name. of Bob Greener who I think has probably. come as close as anybody he's head of. the Martin fleschman Memorial project.

Martin Flashman was one of the Pioneers. in these alternative energies. particularly working with. plasma brilliant brilliant mind he came. on board about a year ago and he was at. a there was a Tesla Tech Conference in h. last summer in. Albuquerque and my My Pal and and. partner in how. tube.com uh did the live streaming out. to I don't know couple of thousand.

people around the world that paid to to. be able to witness and what they did in. front of a live audience on a stage is. they brought in a generator and. retrofitted it right. there and as a result of that several. things happened from there it went to. this research lab in North. Carolina from there it went to a. conference in Zurich where it was. presented Malcolm then went and spent 2. months in. India demonstrating and building.

prototypes and uh so I mean it this is. the phase where it's at now um let's see. what else really looking at this what. people are really paying attention to. this people are starting to pay. attention to this yeah that's exactly. right so. uh there's a really. interesting video that I would recommend. watching it's an interview with the the. gentleman is named George Lush he works.

in high performance medals he contracts. his third generation her company I think. was founded in 1951 he's contracts to. the Aerospace industry and NASA and all. of this these these high performance. Alloys and stuff and he did the. annealing of this thunderstorm generator. in. England and there's an interview like a. 20 minute interview with him afterwards. and it's really worth watching because. he's.

like he says I'm the biggest skeptic. around and what I saw can't happen what. I saw is impossible but I saw it he's. there with his uh he had a thermal. analyzer and we've got videos of him. here and there testing as this stream of. stuff is moving through these cylinders. and pipes and stuff and literally with 4. in the temperature can change by over.

100° Fahrenheit and he says this is. impossible he says I kept I kept testing. and testing and testing with my thermal. analyzer and it came up the same every. time he says I'm not sure what he says. we're like we're just at the beginning. of trying to figure out what the hell is. happening here. but then he went in to discuss the. potential applications of it now one of. the big questions is is okay when you do. look at these.

readouts okay carbon dioxide carbon. monoxide the other things go down in. some cases zero out in other cases it's. doesn't zero out entirely but it's only. a small fraction of what it had been. meanwhile the Oxygen's gone up so then. the question okay where did the carbon. dioxide go where did the carbon monoxide. go well looks like it somehow got. transmuted on the atomic level into.

oxygen and how bizarre that the that the. concentration of oxygen coming. out of the exhaust pipes is the optimum. oxygen that we would want for unpolluted. breathable air. and that's what's coming out man that is. and and George Howard was there I. watched him do this he got down with his. mouth right there and started huffing.

the plasmoids or whatever coming out you. know to show yeah he did the same thing. at the Tesla Tech Conference in. Albuquerque we've got it on video him. getting down there and huffing it's a. running joke now you know that he got. down there and was and they initially. started up the the generator. on the stage and within once the. generator got warmed up the fumes coming. out got so strong that they had to move. the generator out onto the loading.

dock then they turned the technology on. and within a few minutes instead of all. this pollutant and stuff coming out it's. air man yeah well I'm going to lay it. all on you I'll give you I'll give you. the the whole the links you can go and. and there's a fell in Australia young. guy doing research named Jordan. Collins Jordan Colin he's called his his.

website's called alchemical science he's. done a really great breakdown and. Analysis of the whole thing and he's got. ideas about what he thinks how it's. working but he's been actually in. contact with Roland Perry there's a. video that you can also get I'll give. you the link that you can it was made. about about 5 years ago where they first. did a retrofit of a. car retrofitting an internal combustion. engine and Roland Perry is there. interviewing the two mechanics who had.

just completed the retrofit and it's not. a big deal at all and then he's test. driving the car at the end of it so. Jordan Collins who's also in. Australia goes down in met Roland Perry. in the machine shop where they did this. and they're talking about the car you. know it's been sitting there for number. of years now but talking about how you. know what would be involved in. retrofitting lots of.

cars uh George Lush the the annealer um. the the the the um high. performance metal guy he uh in the end. of his interview he talks about the. potential application he says well think. about this if you put these this. technology on. cars you know you got billions of cars. all over the world you got hundreds of. thousands of cars driving down city. streets and they're putting out all of.

this stuff right with this technology. they're putting out air. yeah putting out air that would. eliminate fossil fuels almost but not. quite fossil fuels would have them but. see at this point they're using fossil. fuels to get those initial. uh temperatures to set the whole process. in. motion. um but there's other applications that.

look like they could be I mean some of. the stuff that I've seen some of these. guys talking about is space travel. submarines um possibly even the. conversion of. uh um hydrocarbon based pollution in. oceans into protein. which could be very interesting yeah and. I don't know much about that but that's. one of the potential applications um. that's already been demonstrated to be.

possible so like I said I'm I'm still in. first grade maybe I'm about to graduate. to second grade but I've got a lot to. learn yet so you know we'll we can carry. on this conversation and if you're. interested in keeping up with the. developments man I'd love to keep you in. the loop. yeah I would love to it's exciting I. would love to hear more about it yeah uh. on that note let's take a quick break.

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with the with the clean energy the clean. emissions you had a great slide that. showed uh what yes yes I did um well. this was part of the testing that was. done last summer there's been four or. five tests now that have been done uh. showing various uh results and the slide. that I showed you was last summer it was. a generator should be right. about well where is it should be right. about here just about coming up and what.

this did what this here we go so this. was um this was a generator this. generator here was a a Honda run by a. gasoline generator so it's a Honda small. the kind you could actually use in a. small in a small shop or even as a home. generator right. now so what what we did was we had two. rooms with two. generators uh one to be left normal and.

the other one to be retrofitted with the. plasma technology. right so this is in a large scale this. is in an industrial laboratory right. there's about 10 10 or 12 people there. various background scientific and. engineering and Industry Prof. Professionals in the in the group. including me I was there um I got. invited out so I hell yeah I want to see. this thing you know because a lot of. people have said to me well have you. ever seen this working I said well no.

but I've I know some credible people. that have seen it working and vouch for. it but yeah so I'm going to go I want to. see it for myself. so went out there so they ran both. generators calibrated them looked at the. the the emissions coming out of them. calibrate them they're essentially the. same um and then one of them was. retrofitted with to. technology right. so with everybody standing around turn.

both generators on and got to let the. generators warm up a minute right and. then once the generators are warm the. one generator which had the technology. on it there's a switch to turn the. technology on and it just run in line. with the exhaust and the carburetor and. you know I can Prov provide you with a. slide with some diagrams that shows you. the the the the hookup of the thing um. it's actually pretty simple um okay so I. flipped the switch to turn the.

technology. on uh and I flipped the switch at 11. minutes and 53 seconds after 10:00 a.m. in the. morning okay so now at this point we've. got a gas. analyzer in both generators and we've. got Mass spectrometers hooked up to both. generators so you know you can guys are. sitting there with their Mass. spectrometers you could see the changing. real time I could watch they're on the. the computer screen right so when I. turned the technology on there was and.

and it's called a cane let's see what is. it cane five analyzer something it. because it it can measure concentrations. of five different gases so you got. carbon dioxide carbon monoxide oxygen. uh other hydrocarbons which probably is. mainly methane but then also nitrogen. oxide so those five right so carbon. monoxide carbon dioxide and O oxygen are.

being measured in. percentage and hydrocarbons and nitrous. oxides are measured in parts per million. okay so now at the point where we're. about ready to turn the technology. on the emissions are showing that. 99.3% coming out of the exhaust is. carbon dioxide. 99.3% carbon monoxide is showing.

5.48% oxygen is showing. 4.66% hydrocarbons 199 parts per million. and nitrous oxide nitrogen oxides uh 20. 7 parts per million this is at 11. minutes and 53 seconds after 10:00 flip. the switch technology now. activates at 15 minutes and 39 seconds.

after. 10:00 what's coming out and you you've. seen this now so I'm describing but. you've seen it here and this is the. actual print out right from the from the. testing at 15 minutes after 10:00. carbon dioxide has gone from 99.3% to. zero carbon monoxide has gone from 5.8. 5.48% to.

zero hydrocarbons have gone from 199. parts per million to 58 parts per. million and nitrous oxides have gone. from 27 parts per million to four parts. per million and oxygen has gone from. 4.66% to to 20.9. 7% interesting so this is clean. so don't ask me to explain what's going.

on here other than something on the. atomic. level there's a some thoughts out there. that essentially what we're seeing here. is almost like proof of alchemy we're. seeing transmutation and I'm not making. definitive declaration that this is what. it is it's just what it appears to be. that there's a a transmutation of. elements on the atomic level because the. question becomes okay if you had 9.3%. carbon dioxide zero what happened to the.

carbon. dioxide what happened to the carbon. monoxide they're gone they're they're. gone well where did all that extra. oxygen come we're talking about let's. see from. 4.66% to. 2097 so almost five times the. concentration of oxygen is now coming. out of that. exhaust is it possible I mean is it even. conceivable that somehow the carbon.

dioxide carbon monoxide hydrocarbons. nitrous oxides were broken down at the. atomic level and transmuted into oxygen. I don't know I don't know and I know. there's a lot of really smart people who. are right now trying to figure out what. the [ __ ] this means. so wow now how is this hooked up to the. generators uh well you've got an you've.

got an intake of fresh air and then it's. recycling it's taking the stuff that. would be exhausted and refeeding it back. into the the thunderstorm generator. which is one of the three components of. the whole technology you've got a. pre-ionization chamber where the air is. drawn in just ambient air is drawn into. this chamber and it's subjected to. infrared light at roughly 100 microns.

right that pre it pre excites the. electrons in the atoms coming in it is. then fed into what is. called we're calling the bubbler and. this is the the the instrument where. billions of microscopic bubbles are. created that's fed into the thunderstorm. generator where I was describing earlier. as a series of concentric spheres and. rings that set up this Vortex this.

whirling vortex in opposite uh from. clockwise to. counterclockwise and when we you know if. you get me back we can figure out a way. to like share some graphics and images. so people can see at home and what I'm. interested in is getting a lot of Minds. on this because I think the more brains. we've got on this we're going to be. sooner we're going to be able to figure. out what the hell is going on here so I.

mean we we can we can hook this thing up. we can run the tests we can see the. results of the test and now you got like. 10 guys standing there with various. backgrounds scientific backgrounds. engineering backgrounds industry. professionals all scratching their heads. going okay what the hell is going on. here I'm getting a little confused is. this is this powering the generators or. cleaning the emissions both or. both both yeah but it does so it.

requires fossil fuels initially because. in order to uh generate the plasmas in. the first place I think it's like 700. and some degrees but then once the. process is started it's almost not quite. but it's almost self-prepared. uating. almost wow and I think you know I would. recommend like I showed you uh. alchemical science Jordan Colin has done.

a really good and he's he's got he's. ahead of me on this one um because he's. been able to focus almost fulltime for. the last whatever four to six months on. this so he's he's got some really. interesting ideas and he's also been. communicating with the inventor Malcolm. Bendle uh prolifically um so he's got. some interesting ideas about what's. going on and I would recommend going to. his site alchemical science um and. watching he's got like six or seven or.

eight videos now he's done where he's. really breaking it down and and. explaining what he thinks is going on um. then there's there's others I would. recommend uh strike. foundation. has got video clips up there. and that's the nonprofit organization. that was created to try to put this. technology out to the world now there. are several patents that are have. actually I think been approved now.

applications of the. technology but I kind of look at this. almost as analogous to you know 120 130. years ago where we were with alternating. current electricity you had if you go. back and read the history of alternating. current electricity you had a bunch of. scientists inventors and Engineers all. scratching their heads trying to figure. out how does this work MH right and I. don't think we still ultimately don't. know what it is and how it works but we. know how to apply it to all kinds of. different things and I think that this.

is sort of analogous to that in that the. there's all kinds of potential here. Malcolm and his small team uh through. Alpha prospects limited which is a. website people can go to to also learn. about it um have applied and I think now. received the last I heard where they. were about to get approved for several. patents but all the rest of it the basic. principles are op sourced on on the web. so Jordan Collins has gotten with a.

small group of I'd say like backyard. mechanics that are like going to do a. whole series of Comb internal combustion. engine retrofits and there's guys now. who are as we speak like retrofitting. their pickup trucks right um to see if. it works and now there the technology. was presented it's a Tesla Tech. Conference in Albuquerque it was uh it. was presented at a alternative energy. technology conference in Zurich.

Switzerland um and now like we talked. about earlier the Indian Navy is very. interested in looking at it and Malcolm. has spent a couple of months in India. demonstrating um the technology and how. it works one of his colleagues Phil deas. been still there they've been there. about 3 months now. um you know Consulting with the Indian. government now here's the interesting. thing if you read the vadas the VC. literature there's all kinds of. descriptions of stuff in there that.

sounds very. technological like you ever heard of the. viman I haven't okay so the vanman is in. in the vadas it describes I think it's. the ri V but in some of the vadas it's. describing the V viman and it is a. flying machine that's what it's. describing. you know the vanman is a flying machine. look look it up on your phone right now. and you'll see you know the other thing. is the vajra and you see these. depictions of the the great king God. Indra wielding the vajra right and then.

this is like from four and 5,000 years. ago inic India right then fast forward. to like 3,000 to years ago roughly and. you see the god Mitra in Persia wielding. the vajra then fast forward about. another thousand years and in Greece you. see uh you see Zeus wielding the vaja. it's called the Thunder Thunderbolt Zeus. wielding the.

Thunderbolt then you can see Roman times. the god mithis wielding the Thunderbolt. well you look at what they're wielding. and it's pretty much all the same. instrument and it was described as the. most powerful instrument in the universe. H and. and when you look at the depictions and. I next time I come back on I can I can. show you this I'll show you I'll have. images and Graphics of replicas of the.

vajra now the vajra still to this day. there are. replicas that are probably duplicates of. things that were thousands artifacts. that were found that are thousands of. years old that were this is a replica of. the. vajro well when you look at that and you. look at the components of the. thunderstorm. generator you go oh okay. H. H interesting yeah and I can show you.

the correlations when I come back how's. this been received at all these Summits. that it was presented to in the in the. Indian Navy well the last I've heard the. Indian Navy is seriously looking at it. for retrofitting ships um I haven't. gotten the late. but the one result of the demonstration. out in in the Tesla Tech Conference in. last summer in Albuquerque Mike. Robertson who's the founder of how tube.

which is which I partnered with um. he uh live streamed out to like several. thousand people around the world there. was also an audience they did this up on. stage up in an audience of several. hundred people seeing at firsthand they. took the generator and retrofitted it on. stage videoed the whole thing and and. and podcasted out to the world so as a.

result of that he got and Malcolm got. invited to this conference in Zurich. Switzerland. so he presented there now at. the uh Tesla Tech Conference in. Albuquerque he he ended up being sort of. the the star presenter at the conference. and he was just like last minute um they. brought him on and then he ended up. being the star presenter at the thing.

and um yeah I mean it's all on record. now it's all videotaped anybody can. track these down and I you know on my. website I'll have all the links and. stuff but I think Jordan Colin at. alchemical science already has the links. up so people can go and they can see. those videos um for themselves and yeah. idea now is to get it out so you know. there's been a whole succession of. inventors and scientists that have been. working per directly or peripherally in. this field with this type of energy and.

their work has been stolen locked up. suppressed. classified the strategy now is get it. out. there open source so anybody can access. it decide for yourself whether it's. legit I'd say don't make up your mind. before befor hand or until you've looked. into it a lot of people oh this is. [ __ ] you know without having taken. two seconds to look into it yeah well. this is impossible what you're. describing is impossible well I got you.

know a dozen scientists engineers. industry professionals that say yeah. it's impossible but God damn it we saw. it we saw it yeah and they're still. trying to figure out what exactly they. saw man this is fascinating stuff you. know it's I agree doesn't even seem real. but I know there it is but it looks like. there's going to be a major part of the. cosmic Summit in.

June so far Malcolm and both Malcolm. bandle the inventor and Jordan cin are. scheduled to be there really yes where. is that I think it's Greensboro North. Carolina what's the date it's like. around the middle of June okay I can I. can let you know the dates I mean you. could easily look it up online right now. if you pulled out your phone put in. Cosmic Summit 2024 and it'll pop right. up we'll link it we'll link it and uh. I'm and anybody else who's interested I. mean this is this is one of the most.

interesting Gathering of minds I think. that's happening anywhere um you know. there's a lot of interesting things. happening conferences all that in my. mind kind of too heavy on the woo woo MH. this is this is solid stuff and I mean. we got everything from uh you know. independent researchers who by the. mainstream might be considered Fringe. but we've also got mainstream scientists. who've been working on all the things we. were talking about earlier we've got.

several specialists in Impact uh geology. and uh astronomers that are going to be. there speaking about it like Chandra wkr. Singa who is a. astrophysicist um I don't think he's. going to be there in person cuz he's. like 80 some years old now but he was. colleague of Fred Hoy who is really a. very distinguished astronomer in uh from. England who wrote a whole bunch of very. interesting books made some serious uh.

uh inroads into understanding How the. Universe works very very highly esteemed. scientist um Chandra was his colleague. and he's going to be beamed in um. remotely uh probably Alan West who has. been one of the leaders in discovering. the evidence for younger dras impact. phenomena is going to be there um and. then a bunch of other interesting people.

I mean it's a really interesting group. of really smart people who are looking. at stuff outside the box interesting. yeah interesting and the one I went to. last year was extremely fun and meeting. all these people I the interesting. conversations you know that you had and. so I'm really looking forward to this. next one and where it's being hosted in. a hotel and the owner of the hotel is a. big fan of this work so he's like.

putting the whole hotel and all their. the facilities and everything just give. you know making it available so it's. going to be fun nice well maybe I'll. check it out you got anything coming up. other than the cosmic Summit well I'm. going to be in April next month I'm. going to be doing a weekend Earth. Origins in Sedona and it's going to a. lot of it's going to be focused on. energy and Alternative Energy so I'll be. presenting some stuff on.

there uh you know I'll be presenting. I'll probably be showing a lot of the. slides that you and I were just looking. at um those are the only two things I've. got scheduled at this point but I will. say that I'm you know I've been doing. for last what three three and a half. years this. cosmographia podcast with my friends. Russ and K Allen and and Bradley young. but those guys have been scattered far. and wide around the world which makes it. hard to do a regular weekly podcast so. I'm launching a second sort of you may.

say an auxiliary podcast where I can put. [ __ ] out every once or twice a week. minimum calling it squaring the circle. and so we've got I think four episodes. in the can I'm going to do an intro. episode when I get back home uh this. weekend and then it should be going. online live within one to two weeks and. I'm going to be getting into a lot of. stuff it's going to be very eclectic you. know I'll be I'll I'll be talking about.

current events on there you know there's. some of the [ __ ] that I see going down. that pisses me off I might want to talk. about that the [ __ ] but it all fits. together you know I mean the pveers of. the [ __ ] want to control the. narrative yeah they want to control the. narrative you know they want want to. control uh history you know this is what. dick dictators and despots and stuff. always do Communists whatever they want. to erase history and rewrite history you.

know you can see what happened to Graham. Hancock after ancient apocalypse I don't. know if you looked at some of the crap. that was posted by mainstream media. accusing Graham of you know purveying. being a you know promoter of white. supremacy and racism yeah you I don't. even I do not pay any attention to. mainstream media anymore that has. completely been discredited and is a. bunch of garbage it's a bunch of garbage. I have no interest in what Talking Heads.

on totally on main media have to say but. since Graham is a friend of mine I just. wanted I was just and and since I was in. the show I was into the first and last. episode of it I wanted to see what the. critics were saying and let's see do. they have anything of substance so I. started reading through and I go this. there's nothing here it's just attacks. yeah ad homonym red herrings you know. and just [ __ ] but who my takeaway.

was this and this is what I found. interesting I read through like 10 or 12. different. mainstream criticisms of the. show so supposedly independent news. media right or independent Source some. from journalists some from. archaeologists same thing it was as. clear as a bell that they were all. reading from the same script using some. of the same. phraseology you know and and I mean to.

the point and I I wrote up a thing a. long thing showing line by line to make. the case that they're all reading from. the same script and I was doing a. lecture in fact here in Nashville I was. doing a lecture up in Nashville not long. after that came out and and I was about. 200 people in the audience and I said. how many of. you folks have seen ancient apocalypse. and I'm guessing maybe 2third of the. hands went. up now how many of you your takeaway was.

that Graham Hancock was promoting white. supremacist conspiracy theories not one. person yeah yet this is ex over and over. and over again this is what the. mainstream media is saying that he's. doing. that he's yeah I mean it was so bizarre. and I at that point it was a little bit. shocking to me it's happening to. everybody you know I mean Russell bran. just got attacked with the what sexual. allegations I mean it's it's become so.

common now I don't you don't even don't. I don't think there's I'm sure there's a. a portion I don't know there's there's a. portion of society that buys into that. [ __ ] but it but it's so now that it's. it's the thing that the thing that I was. curious about though is okay somebody. has put this script together that. they're all reading from and I'm like. okay who the hell is this who who are. these people who's putting this who's. sending this out to these different.

archa you know mainstream academic. archaeologists and journalists and. critics and stuff and they're all. reading it had to come from somewhere. somebody is behind. that in the interest of disclosure I'd. like to know who the hell that is yeah. who do you think it is I don't know I. don't. know. but somebody yeah yeah somebody's there. it's it's no coincidence that they're. all coming up with the same stuff I.

don't think that a lot of people are. putting that together but um but I I. think people are starting to wise up to. the media I mean they're going broke you. know yeah well you know what's happening. is alternative media now is getting. stronger and stronger mainstream media. is getting discredited and maybe some of. them are going you know what we better. get with the program. here what's our future yeah you know I. hope that's I hope it's good.

oldfashioned competition is making them. go okay we got to start telling the. truth once in a while yeah you know yeah. it's uh it's really sad what happened. but look what you know consequences you. know now now podcasts are on the rise. it's it's yeah some of the fastest. growing media out there nobody's. watching Hollywood nobody's watching. mainstream it's all turned into garbage. it's all turned into W garbage good for.

us good for us podcasters but yeah well. Randall pleasure to meet you man it's. it's a likewise great time I've enjoyed. this despite of the fact that I've been. what 4 hours and 2 days it's been worth. it it's been worth every minute of it. well do you have any. recommendations any guest. recommendations you'd like to see on. here on here yeah oh yeah um well George. Howard George Howard George Howard would.

be a good one and if Jordan cin is in. the country for for the cosmic Summit. next summer he he'd be great to get on. here okay and I'll think about it I I'm. sure I can come up with some more. because I'm thinking about who I want to. get on my podcast right on you know. right on So You Know we did the first. in-house interview the couple of days. ago with Shawn Webb I love Shan yeah. he's I do too he connected us and it's. yeah and it's I especially like him. because you know I can come up here and.

he does all the. driving. so yeah I'm GNA have to get Shawn back. on too but um well I met Shawn I guess. we think four or five years ago and it. was through him that I met Ben. Johnson Mushroom Man yeah ex Navy SEAL. yeah Mushroom Man good man oh there you. go Ben get him on here to talk about his. efforts to get federally approved. license grow license and all that yeah.

he'd be a good one and I'm getting him. on now he'll probably be my second guest. oh cool yeah but right now you're ahead. of me you got more views than I do but. I'm I'm climbing and I think I'm going. to be getting on I'll be on Rumble soon. right on so that's going to I think. boost what I got to say and I got some. things to say well I can't wait to check. it out so I'm I'm I'm a I'm a optimistic. happy go-lucky guy in my own way but I'm. also getting pissed off yeah a lot of us. are y a lot of us are yeah but well.

Randall I said we go grab some lunch and. um man that sounds good and uh thanks. for coming out thanks for having me my. friend my new friends. [Music]. hey everybody I'm Shawn Ryan click here. to subscribe to the Sha Ryan Show. YouTube channel for the hottest and most.

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