Pete Hegseth - Secretary of Defense | SRS #143

[Music]. Pete he Seth welcome to the show man. Sean thanks for having me it's good to. finally uh see in person I see on TV all. the time but uh likewise if I had a. dollar for every person that do you know. Sean Ryan that guy's the man I'd be a. rich man so thanks for making this. happen very cool very cool well you got. a new book out the war on Warriors I. definitely want to talk about that let's. do uh let's talk about the educational. system and then we had a mini.

conversation about uh Tim wal and uh so. we'll talk about his background as well. and what uh you know about that cuz I. haven't had uh a minute to dive into. everything he's claiming yeah lately so. but I figured if anybody knows it's you. so uh starting off with a quick down and. dirty introduction Pete heg Seth husband. father Patriot and a Christian man. you're an army veteran of Iraq. Afghanistan onono Bay earning two bronze.

stars and a combat infantry badge you. are most known for being the coast host. of Fox and Friends Weekend and of. multiple series on Fox Nation you're the. author of The New York Times bestseller. battle for the American mind you. recently wrote a book called the war on. Warriors behind the Betrayal of men who. keep us free you served as CEO of. Concerned Veterans of America what is. that it's a veterans advocacy. organization what do you guys.

concentrate on WE concentrated on trying. to get the VA in the business of. actually serving vets instead of serving. the. bureaucracy nice yeah are you guys. making Headway well I'm not I'm not. doing it anymore the organization's. still around yeah we made some huge. Headway um during the Trump. Administration the the accountability. Act and the choice act that he was a. part of were I don't know if yeah I. think it'd be pretty fair to say we were. the brainchild of those um behind the. scenes put out just pushing hard the. idea that um the VA doesn't exist to.

perpetuate its own bureaucracy by. spending more money the veteran should. be at the center and and and and if. you're a [ __ ] VA employee and you're. jacking around on company time you. should be able to be fired just anywhere. else in life so are they getting fired. now uh mostly. not um hold on let me say no mostly not. because of course the bureaucracy fought. against it in every single way all the. government unions came out against it. even though it was passed it was used in.

some very narrow instances but for the. most part especially under Biden they've. brought all the Civil Service. protections against the law by the way. the law states you can fire they just. choose not to because all even all the. political appointees abide by the rules. of the unions and so they want to play. nice and so even though they could. expedite firings of va officials who are. I don't know like watching porn at work. or like not serving vets in a timely. manner they usually don't so it's it's. the is the right thing to do I think it. could be reapplied under Trump very. effectively frankly across government.

but most importantly at the VA but in. the hands of Democrats they're not doing. anything with it oh figure and you. currently serve in the individual ready. Reserve well I did as of not anymore I'm. out now. congratulations. congratulations do you go let's talk. about the VA do you go to do you go to. the VA I do not I don't either no why do. you think why do you think the. bureaucrats are fighting so hard just to.

like what's what's the problem like why. don't they want to fix the [ __ ] VA. well it's it's a permanent feeding. trough and you know you see of of of. high-paying jobs uh and stable jobs that. you can't be fired from at with an upper. echelon of brass numbering in the. thousands that get paid more than you. know the chairman of the Joint Chiefs uh. and they're great easy comfy jobs many. of which are now remote even at the VA. uh since Co they've never come back uh. and then the problem is it's a feedback.

loop you know we you and I would. probably talk a lot about the. military-industrial complex all these uh. outside the companies that influence the. way we procure weapons and way we fight. well there's a veterans industrial. complex too uh and you know the. traditional names the VFW the legion. Amvets um you name them um they've got. big offices in Washington DC and they. are invested in one thing namely a. bigger VA budget a bigger VA budget. means more progr programs that they.

collaborate with they say it is to serve. their members but if you talk to their. members which is what we actually did in. the organization it's like hey we don't. care what VFW headquarters thinks we. care what the post level thinks what do. those guys think they're saying hey why. am I driving 200 miles to go to some. hospital where I'll wait for months for. an appointment when I could be seen. inside my own Community if the dollars. followed me and I wanted to do that. locally well the VA hates that because. it would heaven forbid their budget. might reduce or their facilities might.

not be used as robustly then they don't. keep getting the money well then the. Vets groups don't don't benefit as much. from that so it's a typical swampy. feedback loop the politicians don't. really know how the VA works and so they. just want a good press conference and. that means just writing bigger checks. the whole thing never but they get to. feel good about it right oh I support. the Vets I I support funding for the VA. but is the VA working like can you get. in on time usually the healthcare is. actually pretty good at the VA once you. get in once you get to see a doctor once. you have a stable relationship with a.

doctor but getting through and getting. in is half the challenge and so it's. it's a big problem man I went there one. time one time well I I guess more than. once but after I got you know my. benefits. benefits I went there one time for an. appointment and I was like I'll buy my. own health insurance like this no I'm. not doing this I don't need any more. pills sorry thank you I've only heard.

one thing good come out of the VA and. that's have you heard of this Dr freeze. guy yes he's um he's uh written a book. on that they're calling this it's like. an I don't I'm going to butcher this so. whoever's listening that knows about. this don't kill me here but it's it's. like. another it seems to me like they've. repurposed not repurposed it's a. different PTSD I guess is Bally. basically what I'm saying called operat. syndrome and they're tying in PTSD with.

traumatic brain injuries but not like. massive traumatic brain injuries like. stuff You' get from shooting a Carl. gusta or slapping breacher charges on. doors a lot um I'm not talking like a. big VB ID or something uh sleep dep and. they're tying it all into like this new. form of PTSD it sounds pretty. interesting and well dude if that's what. the VA exists to do yeah well right.

specialize on stuff for guys that saw. things that the outside world doesn't. really understand and and focus on. delivering the care that those guys and. gals need but we right now we fund a a. VA bureaucracy a healthc care system. that you know I mean the outside world. does a good job treating diabetes the. outside world does a good job treating. cancer does those aren't necessarily. veteran specific illnesses so if the VA. would specialize more on the things it. does really well it's comparative.

advantage and you fund those things and. then you you don't have to have the. country's largest Healthcare System not. that's not run very well and instead you. allow the private private Market to. provide for vets that can be seen in a. timely manner that's we wrote a whole. report on it called the fixing veterans. Healthcare task force it feels like. forever ago it was like 2014 it was a. bipartisan deal um and that's exactly. what we said that's where the name came. from I don't know exactly what he did. does exactly but these those folks that. specialize and do it best they're the.

ones that should be the focus um and. then on the General Health Care side. that can that can be done other ways. yeah what would you personally like to. see happen in the VA or to the. VA I well first of all I would. um that's a great question uh and we. wrote a whole report on it. and I guess in a perfect world I would. have like I just said I would have it. focus on its core Mission and then I.

would the critics would say oh you want. to privatize the VA that's not the idea. the idea is to effectively let the. dollars follow the veteran so and there. is the mission act did that that Trump. passed which the VA is trying to squelch. um what is the problem with privatizing. the VA I mean all of the as far as I. know and I've interviewed a lot of vets. that have done a lot of kind of wazu. off-the-wall treatments that actually. work but all these. all these treatments that are making.

major Headway like psychedelics y um. none of this is being developed from. within the VA it's all private a lot of. it's out of the country we can't even do. the [ __ ] that helps us in the country. I'm one of them I did uh psychedelics uh. I did ibigan in Mexico. and I me changed my life in in so many. different ways I haven't had a drop of. booze in 2 and A2 years I didn't even go. down there for that.

and. um way more in the moment with my family. anyways whatever uh none of these. non-traditional treatments or things. that are working for for traumatic brain. injury PTSD. anxiety all these things that are you. know that that the guys are dealing with. coming out none of it's none of it's. being cured by the. VA none of it big surprise the. government is not uh here to help and. problem why would anybody other than I.

get the VA employees and the bureaucrats. within it but why would anybody be. against privatizing veteran Healthcare. it's just better health let me tell you. this uh you're that's exactly right. nothing you said is wrong uh I I was in. 2016 I was under consideration by Trump. to be his VA secretary nice I was. interviewed multiple times in fact I was. down to the final two and um you know go. up to Trump Tower up the elevator sit. with with them talk about it and.

ultimately I think he thought I was a. little young and all that but I remember. he called me at one point in the process. and he said um Pete I want to pick you I. want to pick you but there's one problem. why do all the veterans groups hate. you and he sort of I sort of laughed and. he goes no but like they hate you and. I'm like well Mr President let me tell. you why because outside the box thinking. of say providing private choice for. veterans. is a threat complete threat to the.

ecosystem around the government. bureaucracy and the VA and the veterans. groups they exist to defend their. territory and they'll say oh it's for. the betterment of the Vets what if vets. are getting better treatment from. non-conventional places why aren't we. exploring that well the bureaucracy. can't handle that well it's not the. existing system it's not where most of. the money comes from it doesn't support. the bricks and motor facilities that. they want to. keep the the importance becomes keeping. the facil ities as opposed to what is.

the treatment that the Vets are getting. so I had plenty of I know I had. overwhelming support from veterans. across the country who were thankful. that who believed that veterans choice. would unshackle them from driving 400. miles for a basic treatment when they. could get it 10 miles from their house. and the government pays for it or the. idea that if you're abusing a vet a VA. official should be fired so the. solutions are simple it's choice and. accountability PE vets have choice and. and people that aren't doing their job. doing it poorly get fired uh but.

government doesn't do either of those. things yeah and so if you're going to do. that you better be ready to go to the. mat in a way that's uglier than I think. people can imagine everyone looks at the. veteran space and says can't we get. along can't we all agree that we love. vets of course well if it's not if we're. spending more I mean the VA has a the. the budget of the VA is twice the size. of the Marine Corps it's a massive. massive yes it's huge it's the second. largest Federal uh Department the. federal government it's absolutely.

what's number one the. dod D and VA and yet VA you can't be. seen in a timely manner and you're. treated like a number and and the warm. DC just hides behind the Warm Glow of. all that so I hope all these traditional. veterans organizations watch this they. know what what traditional veterans. organizations are you talking about. americ leg the VFW talking about the VFW. I'm talking about um Amvets was good at. one time but Amvets talking about. Disabled American Veterans I'm talking.

about Paralyzed Veterans of America all. the pamphlets you see on the VA all what. you're talking about it's the funny hats. crowd yeah yes and I and I respect them. their service all of that but they're. they don't serve the interest of their. members it's just like the unions like. when you go why does Donald Trump have. overwhelming support from union members. but yet the union bosses keep endorsing. Joe Biden it's because they don't. actually reflect at some point in. Washington Wasington DC the interests of.

their members they lose touch with the. interest of their members because it. becomes about perpetuation and so I I've. worked with I'm a member of the Legion. in my hometown a force Lake Minnesota. post 225 like you know I signed up right. after I got back from my first tour um. and I but I don't have any affinity for. it other than that and it's not I know. that in Washington DC they're not. actually trying to fight for reform or. real overhaul at the VA they just have a. they have a seat at the table and they. like that seat. man I didn't even realize those.

nonprofits were uh even relevant anymore. I thought that kind of died with the. Vietnam generation I mean I joined too. and I went in there and then I was like. I'm just drinking with a bunch of combat. veterans you w the free chicken wings. and beer and then I never went back know. but that's you're exactly right they. don't have any power except in. Washington in Washington they still have. a lot of power you know why cuz they'll. put out press releases.

and press releases are like gold little. snowflakes in Washington and they'll. also have packs and they also give money. uh and they'll show up at press. conferences behind you with in the. uniform saying we support and they love. to be bipartisan because they don't want. to be pigeon hold as one or the other. and so they'll they support everything. that is just more money for the status. quo damn that's sad do you think we'll. ever see any you think it'll ever. improve over there Trump tried and I. think you will again I really do there's. just there was so much currency he had.

to spend in so many different places in. a first term and he got a lot done on. the mission act which is choice and VA. accountability and he's got great people. on the outside watching what Biden has. done and I think when they come back in. God willing um that there's a lot of. overhaul to be had. there listen up no matter who wins the. election I'm still buying gold and. silver we're $35 trillion debt and we.

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emergency that's not at the VA at least. as far as I know correct that's that's. what they were trying to change and once. it's a huge budget what it's it's why. would they want to spend that money on. guys like us who they don't need. anymore it's a fair point you know I. just I don't trust them Pete no I think. you reflect I mean I don't I don't know. tell find me a vet who does who isn't in. Washington DC look at the oxy problem. the opiate problem a lot of that was. initiated by the VA all they handbags of.

pills here's a grocery sack full of. drugs hope you feel better mhm maybe. he'll kill himself and then we can pull. him off the books or maybe he'll kill. himself in the VA parking lot yeah which. has happened time and time again yeah. because that's what uh naively or. basically you would expect well I went. to fight for my country at the very. least they could take care of me when I. come home and then they meet a brick. wall of numbers uh of of of they're just. a number nobody gives a damn and um it's.

too much yeah that's even if he can get. in correct you know most people can't. even get in but um all right we've we've. pounded the VA to a pulp here it's one. of my favorite things to pound yeah me. too me too everybody gets a gift on the. show you ready. okay it's my uh Shameless I knew this. was coming you did yeah I did are you a. gummy seen it enough. absolutely I would consider myself a. gummy a ific shinado now probably not as.

much as you but I'm always looking for. the softest chewiest best gummy bears. those are it I wouldn't eat those don't. eat them 30 minutes before you go on the. air though I'm just kidding are they. those kind of gummy bears no no they're. legal in all 50 states they're good to. go I'm going to try one right. now well they smell good yeah I find. that the generic ones are often the. softest. they're good let me know what you.

think excellent not bad huh I didn't. know you were in the gummy bear business. though I am I am H but uh well let's. move on to I'm just I was going to save. this to the end cuz this is what I'm. most excited to talk about but let's. talk about the war on Warriors let's. talk about the book where are you going. with this well the idea of the book I. would say you know I wrote a book about. education I've written some books about. politics and it just didn't feel like.

the right time to kind of. assess where we were in the military. especially after 20 years of of more or. less ongoing combat and you know it. takes a while for the dust to clear and. to get a sense of like hey what happened. where but then. things you know under Obama but really. after Trump and then in Biden you start. to look around you say wow and it. happened really fast it happened slowly. and then it happened fast you start to. realize this institution that I love. that I gave so many years to that you.

gave so many years to and I say that. humbly because I did far less than so. many you know I did my one little thing. that as part of a bigger effort over 20. years but it's this institution is going. sideways uh it doesn't and you hear time. and time again um which institution the. Department of Defense the military the. Army um pick your service um and and it. started with a central question the. book would I want my kids would I.

recommend my kids join the Army today or. the military today um and that used to. be an open and shut case for me it used. to be absolutely hell yeah like I want. my kids to have the kind of ethos where. they would um and i' we've got a blended. family of five boys and two girls so. that's a real question you know oldest. is 14 youngest is seven like they're not. that far away from having the. opportunity to make that decision would. I recommend that and it used to be of. course I would and over the last couple. of years it became clear like I I would.

I I I don't know and you talk to more. and more guys and they're having the. same they're either hell no or they're. saying yeah I for the first time in my. life you know I'm in the family business. it was my dad my grandfather we they all. served and I'm second guessing whether I. want my kids to and so I actually the. book kind of helped me figure that out. and I the last chapter of the book is a. letter to my boys about whether I would. want them to serve but and and I can I. can lay that out but I didn't write that.

chapter until the end so I wrote the. whole book and then I was like okay I. want to look at the depth of what's. happening to our Warriors because it's. it's not the book isn't just how the. military went woke um there's plenty of. those examples and we feature them. prominently on Fox and you've seen them. and the just the. nonsense the deeper question is how did. the military allow itself to go woke how. did our general class how did our our. our our military acmy. um how did military leaders who are.

suspected live by an ethos and a code. who they're in the job of of meritocracy. and lethality um of Excellence of no. excuses of equality and unity not equity. and diversity is our the dumbest phrase. on planet Earth in the military is our. diversity is our strength it's. it's our Unity is what unites us our. Unity of effort our our ability to say.

yes we're different but we come together. as a team to accomplish a mission so I. spent the better part of a year and a. half um talking to vets and and not just. vets but connecting through a network of. a lot of guys I know I spent I host my. show on Friday Saturday and Sunday in. New York so I've got Saturday afternoon. wide open and I spent for months my. Saturdays just on the phone off the. Record uh anonymously with guys in. service so senior listed Junior listed. Junior officers senior officers all.

branches Moss's eras but but mostly guys. in right now U generals privates and all. the same themes came out you know. standard of dropping um the woke stuff. is everywhere I feel like I'm walking on. eggshells I heard that all the time. eggshells I'm a commander I walk on. eggshell I train. commanders they're walking on eggshells. they they're they're afraid of one. misstep on one identification or one. gender thing or one racial thing or one.

trans thing uh and the priorities are. upside down on what the units are. focusing. on and every single one of those. distractions means we're less good at. our job um which is supposed to be. closed with and destroy the enemy on. behalf of our nation and bring our boys. home uh that's all I care about that's. what I want a military focused on um and. so yeah I tell a few my own stories in. the book but it book's not about me at. all how do you think that this is. happening. well it's a long story so the the well I.

think it's because they're idogs who. want to bring a meritocracy to heal. that's where I think it starts I think. you have um politicians who don't want. to tolerate an institution first they. want to use it to Tinker and then they. also don't want to tolerate an. institution that's antithetical to their. social um experiments because the. military you know I me the book lays. this out of course like the integration. of the military racially was a huge. success um it was a huge success because.

black men and Hispanic men and others. can perform just as well as white guys. uh in any capacity that they're given so. the reality of Life reinforced that the. bigotry we saw on the outside should not. be tolerated inside the military and the. military did a great job doing that um. but now we're pushing boundaries and. lots of different levels that are. different than that because men in women. are different uh because being. transgendered in the in the military. causes complications and differences uh.

and the book kind of lays out the common. arguments that that those on the the. left or others make which are baked in. social social justice so it started you. know you saw it under Clinton with the. tinkering of don't ask don't tell and. the reasons for those changes and I. talked to some of the people involved in. when that was changed uh but it really. happened started to accelerate under. Obama and you saw it with you saw the. trans stuff come at the end of the Obama. Administration you saw the women in. combat come at the end of the Obama. Administration it's because they looked. around at the bureaucracies that they.

controlled in Washington and the one. that was uh that they didn't control the. Obama spent a disproportionate amount of. time focusing on the the Pentagon they. were skeptical of leadership and. eventually brought in political. appointees and Generals who would do. their bidding the way they wanted which. as you know in a tap down organization. changes the ethos of the whole thing so. the book is meant to pull the whole. curtain back mostly from Obama forward. and explain how the the army that I. enlisted in or that I swore an oath in.

2001 and was commissioned in 2003 looks. a lot different than the army of today. uh because we're focused on a lot of the. wrong. things I mean you know this you could. you could talk about all day I bet we. could I'm trying to organize my thoughts. here figure out what rals to go down but. um I mean I mean they've been wildly. successful in morphing the military into. this whatever you want to whatever.

whatever you want to call it then I do. want to do you want to talk about I. don't want to forget about having your. kids join the military maybe we end with. that CU I have a lot of thoughts on that. too but I mean I I don't know man I mean. I I think about this all the time I mean. you you know you watch the show I've had. active duty guys on I've had I've had. the most badass American warriors that. we've ever produced on on the show and. everybody says the same thing they don't.

all say it on camera cuz it Doesn't uh. uh we don't always go into that but but. I do ask them you know all of them like. how is it how is it in there you know. the especially the guys that just got. out they're all disgusted they're all. demoralized totally I feel like this the. gas really got turned on when. when when the defund the police movement. happened I knew it was going to bleed in. because I thought the defund the police. I was like this isn't about this [ __ ].

they want to rid the Le agencies of the. Old Guard because they all think alike. they do a damn good job and so let's. destroy it and rebuild it with a new. mindset and that happened I think that. happened do you think it happened yes I. do I mean if you if you look at the back. cover of the book it says I joined the. army to fight extremist in 2001 uh 20. years later that same Army labeled me. one yeah so I got out because and I I I.

could tell the story or not but I I was. deemed a extremist because of a tattoo. by my National Guard unit in Washington. DC and my orders were revoked to guard. the Biden inauguration but all of this. so you have what happened with George FL. what a punishment I know it's. actually you put it that way you're. exactly right you you're exactly right. um you know but you had the George Floyd. riots and then you had I was also in the. DC guard during the what happened in. front of the White House you remember.

the Insurrection that no one calls an. Insurrection outside the White House. when they you know burned the church. down and and got to the gates of the. White House I was there the second night. through the fifth night of all of that I. was a 04 major holding a riot shield. because they didn't have enough guys so. we were just out there doing our thing. and and explain a little bit about that. that happens then January 6th happens. and both of those moments become. pretenses for the dod with political. appointees who've long since been. burrowed in and Generals who are all in.

for the politically correct agenda they. maybe kept their head down during Trump. because he didn't want to hear about it. guys like Millie um guys like Austin. they were right there waiting in the. wings ready to go and once the. combination of Floyd and January 6th. happened they went all in on Dei and CRT. and transformation focusing on Patriot. extremism uh that's we talk all about. that in the book you know gadston flags. are are signed of radicalism get the. bumper sticker off your car uh you know.

a uh Jerusalem cross tattoo which is. just a Christian symbol is that the ex. this this is the one right here this one. is uh is what got me uh disinvited or my. I'd never had orders revoked before I. mean listen it's a standard deal you. remember after January 6th everyone was. in Washington DC like Nancy Pelosi had. the parking garage is full of national. Guardsmen the fence was up I was going. and my commander called me a day before. tepidly and was like uh major you can.

just stand down we we don't need it. we're good I'm like what do you mean. everybody's there he's like no no no. we're he couldn't tell me uh and then of. course when I was writing the book I. reached out to somebody in the unit who. could confirm with 99.9% certainty. because he was on in the meetings and on. the emails nope someone inside the DC. guard trolled your social media found a. tattoo used it as an excuse to call you. a white nationalist an extremist and you. were specifically by name orders revoked.

to guard the inauguration um because you. were considered a Potential. Threat how is. that it's a cross it's a it's a. Christian symbol that's all it is. there's a lot of guys but I got a. Christian symbol here I got you know no. it because it wasn't about that it was. about I don't know was it I'm too. conservative is it because I'm Trump. supporter uh is it because I was a I was. a reporter on January 6th they want you. there so that maybe I worked at Fox.

maybe that's what it was they just they. had decided Pete Heth is not qualified. to to guard the inauguration of a. Democrat president which is ridiculous. because I volunteered to go to. Afghanistan under Barack Obama I'm no. Democrat but I believed I was hopeful. the surge in Afghanistan might work and. I volunteered to go in 2011 2012 so it's. never been about for guys like you and. me it's never been about Republicans and. Democrats it's been about the Republic. and that's all. been it's all been put into question for.

every in everyone's mind and it so. there's a chance to course correct it. but uh it would take the new a new Trump. Administration going after it really. hard how would they correct it well. first all you got to fire um you know. you got to fire the chairman of Joint. Chiefs and you got to fire this I mean. obviously you're going to bring in a new. secretary of defense but any general. that was involved General Admiral. whatever that was involved in any of the. Dei woke [ __ ] it's got to go like either. you're in for war fighting that and. that's it and that's the only litus test.

we care about uh you got to get Dei and. CRT out of Military Academy so you're. not training young officers to be. baptized in this type of thinking uh and. then you know whatever the standards. whatever the combat standards were say. and I don't know 1995 let's just make. those the standards and as far as. recruiting to hire the guy that you know. did Top Gun Maverick and creat some real. ads that motivate people to want to. serve uh and there's lots of other ways. in which you could identify who gets. promoted and what but there's an ethos.

change I mean there there's a reason. we're not people don't want to serve. because they don't trust that their. senior leaders are going to have their. best interest in mind in combat I know. there were mistakes made on on our tours. all over the place but I at least for. the most part had a sense that my senior. leaders were committed to the completion. of the mission for the right reasons and. maybe there were strategic differences. and all that other stuff and it wasn't. always perfect but I and that that trust. is broken and you have to reestablish.

that trust by by putting in non-nonsense. Warf fighters in those positions who. aren't going to cater to the socially. correct. garbage I mean do you don't think we. need to gut the entire institution you. think this is just coming from the top. down I think right now it's a top my. assessment based on talking to I mean is. that it's a top down bottom up problem. is that you've got top down political. generals who've gained GED Rank by. playing by all the wrong rules that.

cater to the idealogues in Washington DC. and so they'll do any social justice. gender climate extremism crap because it. gets them checked to the next level and. gets them closer to the political. appointees who don't know anything about. the military really other than they want. a new first here and a new first there. and can we get the first trans this or. whatever that just nonsense and then now. you have a junior Corp which listen. their incentive structure whether it was. in university or at uh service cies or.

just coming through college is belief in. these things that diversity is our. strength that Equity that the standards. could be racially biased that showing up. on time is a social construct that all. all these so if you spend enough time. with those two things meeting you you. could have a wholesale takeover the. defense department I do think there's. still a core of mostly. silent you know they also pushed out a. lot of vaccine folks because of the. vaccine obviously that's I think that's.

another one like a purge engineered as. well a purge of people that's a purge of. people of conscience if you if you have. enough of a conscience whether it's. faith belief or whatever Purge out. Patriot extremism Purge out so there was. a big push of a lot of those people in. the middle out I still think and I know. enough guys and talk to enough who said. hey I I want to be in for the right. reasons I know what's wrong it's jacked. up if I say something I'm canned but in. a new environment I think think I think. there's still a core there that's not.

and here's the challenge is in battle. for the American mind my other book was. about the state of education in America. which is to I mean government schools. are you know this as well as anybody. horror shows um but if you want to get. out of them you can you can move you can. homeschool you can you you got options. for the most part school we only have. one defense department what's the option. abandon it and so if every Patriot. abandons it um what does it look like. and how is it utilized in the future in.

ways that are far more nefarious than. Foreign Wars uh where we get entangled. and we end up trying to Nation build for. 20. years I feel like that's how we fix it. you abandon it really yep I know you. probably think I'm crazy I I would we. have a second amendment we have more gun. owners than anything else in this. country yeah I know we need planes and. Tech and satellites and space force and.

all the Navy and all the [ __ ] but when's. the last time we actually went to war to. fight for our freedom we won't even. defend our Southern. border should we have been in. Iraq I was a huge proponent of at the. time but in retrospect absolutely not so. was I I don't think we should have been. there I think that was all for Cheney. and KBR halberton I think we're in. Afghanistan for way too I don't even. think we're defending the country like. why the [ __ ] are people even signing up. to go to war for what for what whose War.

it's not our [ __ ] War we're funding. the Taliban $40 to 87. million a a week a. week a week they run the government over. there they're making passports for these. guy legitimate passports for these guys. they fly them all over South America and. Central America they funnel up through. the southern border you know it's not a. [ __ ] conspiracy it's real. and like what's so what are we going to.

use our military for for. Ukraine no so why why would anybody why. would anybody sign. up what are you defending what are you. defending it's a great question I mean I. think it's and that's why I reserved. judgment to say I want to know what the. world looks like in four years when. you're 18 and if we do if we if they do. lose all the Patriots they have to. change something because they have no or. do they or do they or or would they.

conscript maybe you're right or would. they bring in Pathway to citizenship. conscript I mean I think DC will find a. way and and it would it may be ugly and. it may and so I I share all of your. skepticisms about that I I've been a. recovering neocon for six years now like. the foolishness with which we ricocheted. around the world intervening think it.

was in our best interests when really we. just overturned the table and created. something worse in almost every single. scenario has led to almost I mean the. huus of of of the Pentagon is that they. want to now tell other countries how to. do counterinsurgency based on what we. did in Iraq and. Afghanistan are you kidding me so you. really have learned nothing okay nothing. so yeah you're right that trust the. trust there that our political leaders. or our generals would have our best. interest of mine is totally broken it's. totally broken I acknowledge that.

completely and the last thing I want is. my son deploying to the Don boss to. defend eastern Ukraine I'm with you too. at the same time I'm fearful of what. happens when the institution gets. abandoned completely um and maybe it. feels like the public school argument. like hey if we take all the Christians. and people of Faith out of public. schools and they're really going to go. yeah but you got to save your kid right. and I'm going to save my kid and that's. the view it's just there isn't there. isn't alternative right now to the. United States military mhm there there.

just isn't and I don't want to lose. patriotic influence over that so my. prayer because if Donald Trump doesn't. win and KLA Harris is the. commander-in-chief what's happening. inside our military is going to go on. another level of warp speed and you're. going to see even more guys retiring. guys and GS retiring and even more of. the Dei woke focus and it's going to. continue to spiral uh if if Trump does. win and goes at. it I think it might be our last sort of.

chance to save this institution and turn. it back to what it was because it is a. top- down organization you put a you put. a SE def in there who's focused on all. the right things get rid of all. the just all the things that are. described in the book and focus on war. fighting lethality and training and. standards real. standards um not Equity but equality mhm. you can do it there's still the the core. there but I share all your I mean what. has Washington shown Us in the last 20.

years that we should trust them with how. they'll use our young men it's fair I. Trump tried use them on the border and. they shut them down our power grids. [ __ ] our bord [ __ ] our education. systems [ __ ] everything's [ __ ]. that's the way it feels everything is. [ __ ] and we're and we're shipping all. of our money overseas we should be I. me do you know how do you know anything. about the power grid do you know how it. is super super vulnerable I mean One EMP.

one one of the right strikes and oh yeah. we're we're what happens when we're. months without power I don't think they. even need to do an EMP we don't they. China produces all of our Transformers. all of our solar all of our wind. everything and so and we don't even. check it for malware or Trojan horses or. any of these type viruses that they I. mean and even Ray FBI director raid came. out and said yeah. they've they're in they're in our grid. and they're in our water treatment.

plants and all they have to do is flip. the. switch it but we ship what is it like. 175 billion thus far to. Ukraine but no well and and and Bin. Laden's son is now in Afghanistan and. he's married to the daughter of Mala. Omar and the um and the daughter of of. uh what's Zar Zara and they. I mean when you when you hear when the.

FBI director is saying that the. dashboard is flashing red and smoking. he's not doing it because he's he's. doing it because he's covering his ass. he knows something's coming at some. point and. um yeah I I. I but even on top of all the Dei stuff. on the military I don't even think that. that's I think that's just one aspect of. the war on Warriors I mean just before. we started talking on on the show we. were having a side conversation about.

the Biden 4 the Blackwater guys Eddie. Gallagher y. Goldstein uh the latest one I don't know. if you're aware of this Brad giri do you. know who Brad giri is he's a he's a. naval Captain he was in charge of uh. Naval special Warfare Training Center he. was the guy that was in charge when um. Mullen the the seal recruit uh who was. in buds died Y and now they're pinning. his ass to the wall and straight lies. just his just for an example his you.

know they're they're they're they are. blaming it on the training codre and it. was too hard and the medical checks were. were wrong and d d d d da but they did. three I believe it was three separate. investigations to cover up they just. kept reinvestigating until the facts. were gone and the facts were that they. found a cooler or some type of a box. full of piles of testosterone human.

growth hormone and Viagra oh from. Pakistan and when he died he had his. heart was 63% larger than most I think. he was 23 was he 23 at the time but they. had all of that removed out of the. investigation I should connect you guys. absolutely but that's the latest one. that's Eddie Gallagher they tried him. for for murdering in Isis fight. they tried him for murdering an Isis. fighter correct and they and you know I.

was a seal and I asked all my cuz I. thought he was guilty I thought he was. guilty because everybody was saying that. he was guilty I was calling my buddies. that were still in hey what's up with. this gallager guy is this real like what. I don't see the problem here and they're. like oh man dude you don't want to it's. bad they have the videos it was they. told I think it was green told went. around to all the sealed teams and brief. them saying that they had video the.

proof that Eddie killed this guy in a I. don't whatever fashion mhm and but. nobody ever saw it turns out in court it. never came up they just [ __ ] lied to. the entire seal Community to pin this. guy's ass to the wall a lot of people. still hate him you had his lawyer Tim. poot to on your show uh without without. the kind of legal defense that he got I. mean they got the they got the other guy. to admit that he killed him mhm in the. last day of yeah it wasn't even him.

wasn't even him so he didn't even kill. the I fighter so you it's Eddie. Gallagher or Clint lence or. um uh the the the Raven 23 guys who. those guys were one was going Nick. slatton was going to to prison for life. for life and the other three I believe. it was 35 years and they they deleted. the Drone footage that proved their. innocence in court that's another one. hey let's just retry them until we get a. a couple of them didn't even pull the. trigger in the actual incident um it's.

Matt goldstein's the other one I'm. thinking of a Green Beret so yeah I mean. chapter 10 and 11 are more lethality. less lawyers and the laws of war for. winners um talking about exactly this. and this is why you know I was proud to. be a part of in a small way behind the. scenes with all of those with the. pardons that came for president Trump. and what his Instinct was hey I'm with. the warf Fighters like we sent them to. do these really dangerous dirty. difficult things things that no one else. would do and then sort of like the line.

from A Few Good Men and then we. challenge the manner in which they do it. and even when they do it in a way we may. not like or every people don't. understand uh rather than giving them. deference or having their back or. finding a way to support them we throw. them under of the bus and the Raven 23. is the most is one of the most egregious. examples of that because it was. politically expedient for Hillary. Clinton and Joe Biden to do that it was. a gift to the Malaki government because. of what you know the publicity that come. out because of it and so you have a. pentagon that starts to be complicit. with that way of thinking and it's all. about advancement and covering up. problems and they don't have the backs.

of guys um Rules of Engagement are a. huge problem as you know um that's. another one it's a big one I mean I. remember I remember I was working for. the agency at the time and we were in. Helman Province and we were the the. Marines were getting ready to do this. big push through marid do you remember. that I remember that yep we were. collocated right they didn't know but we. were right alongside them and I remember. remember when the Roes came out for that. under the Obama Administration it was if.

they shoot at you and drop their. weapon you cannot return. fire in a war and I was like man like. you just cut these guys legs out right. out from under them like nobody's even. what are we doing like you just put the. fear of God in these guys that if they. have to do their job and defend the. country that they're going to go to. prison for the rest of their life I mean. what they demoralized the the entire.

Battalion that was doing that offensive. push and I mean it's just it's just this. has been a long process I that's why I. say the rules of War for winners because. why are we fighting an enemy why have we. spent the last 20 years fighting enemies. that don't abide by rules at all and. these are rules written by like dudes in. in Cloak rooms in Europe after World War. I because they thought that they could. fight polite War s in the future amongst. European nations uh when we live now in.

a world in 2024 where all of our enemies. use all of their advantages against us. ignoring all the rules of war and then. expecting us to play by all those very. same rules where we're our largest. critiquers in the middle of the process. and then we wonder why the war never. ends and why we it perpetuates itself. and then why we're throwing our own guys. in jail because we've written rules that. are impossible that that are written for. us to lose that are written for our guys. to be in handcuffs I mean I got to same. a similar brief we had a Jag officer jag. off um brief our platoon in Iraq in 2005.

in Baghdad prior to one of our first. missions and there was just standard Roe. briefing he's like so you see a man in. the road and he's carrying an RPG it's. not yet pointed at you and it was you. know an enemy can you shoot my guy's. like hell yeah they're like no you. cannot but you cannot shoot until he's. pointing that weapon at you and I just. remember walking out clear as day I. remember walking out that briefing. pulling my platoon together and being. like guys that we're not doing that you.

know like if you see an enemy and you. know they're engage before he's able to. point his weapon at you and shoot we're. going to have your back and that comes. back down to Commander and I I felt like. I could say that because I knew I had. commanders echelons above me who would. have our backs in that process and the. New York Times and the left and. Democrats would say you know all they do. is take one in incident and yell war. criminal they never actually understand. the context what I mean I got the same. income on Eddie Gallagher don't touch. this story I I talked to seal don't.

don't touch it guilty is all hell guilty. is all and I just looked more and more. same with Clinton R same with uh Matt. Goldstein all and and the Raven 23 guys. what is Matt Goldstein Matt goldstein's. Green Beret uh I can't I can't remember. all the particulars of it right now but. he was involved a a guy who had they had. rolled up who had been involved in. killing Americans then had gotten. released and his sources were going to. be killed and he laid in basically an. ambush on the guy when he was released. and killed him because they knew that.

their sources were all going to be. killed forgive me if that's wrong. something along those lines he's. probably going to watch and text me and. be like you're an idiot uh so I'm sure I. got some part of that wrong he's one of. the smartest most patriotic guys you'll. ever meet I mean you should have him on. the show sometime guys phenomenal like. stupid level smart PhD level did he get. out of it or is he where he got out of. it he got a pardon he did from Trump. nice and and and because and and the. thing with Trump is if he his his wife.

Julie Goldstein was on our show a number. of times she's just really articulate. really passionate once he sees a story. and gets how it connects to something. bigger it get connects to the bigger. idea that we're [ __ ] over our Warf. Fighters here why are we doing that why. did we do that why wouldn't we back. these guys up even if they weren't. perfect and he you know he'd call me be. like they you know they did some nasty. did some tough things he's a rough guys. but he respects people that were willing. to do it on behalf of the restur of us. and he's not going to throw him out of. the bus so once he gets the information. and you're able to say here's what.

happened or here's what happened in. Eddie Gallagher's trial I mean that went. all the way to the Secretary of the Navy. if you remember that I mean the guy got. Spencer got canned uh for. misrepresenting how that entire case. went out um that's what you need. leaders that get it and that was Donald. Trump do you think it would be a good. idea for whoever gets into office to put. a put like a team together of these guys. that have been through through what. we're talking about like Eddie Brad giri.

Goldstein because one they know who to. go after because it's happening to them. mhm two they're passionate about it put. Tim paror on the list too by the way. he's super smart Yeah Tim would be he'd. be good Tim would be a great wrecking. ball he would a level-headed Wrecking. Ball but um but I I mean I feel like. maybe a little bit of an overcorrection. because you know it's personal but sure.

I mean I feel like that would be a great. start yeah you have to start with people. who can say okay I know who the. political animals were in those places. because that's that's the challenge of a. new Administration everyone's going to. jump up and down say I was this or I was. never really for that or I because they. want to preserve their careers and. you're going to have to have somebody. that's able to call balls and Strikes I. mean this isn't just happening with the. military though I mean this is this is. in all the agencies I know it's at the. the agency because I was there it was.

bad when I left in. 2015 but you know and. I you know when you say from the top. down I just I don't I don't know if that. works I don't know about theems what. they're teaching well you'd have to. change theems too right so that's that's. where you have to change both sides of. that squeeze you have to I mean. admission standards overall standards I. think I think a huge one is is women in. combat and quotas I think the way they.

pushed that under Obama in a way that. had nothing zero to do with uh efficacy. zero to do with lethality and capability. you don't like women in combat no why. not um I love women service members who. contribute amazingly uh because. everything about men and women serving. together makes the situation more. complicated uh and complication in. combat MH means casualties are worse uh.

and when you actually go into the hood. again and I you know I got response I've. got 99% positive response to this a few. a little bit of push back but when you. actually break down what they did in the. studies to open the door for women in. combat I mean they just ignored them so. the Marine Corps was the only service. that actually tried to fight back and. say now obviously I'm exempting special. operations which uh thus far has held. the line fairly well because if they. were lowering the standard to become a.

Navy SEAL just to let women inside the. Navy Seals that's going to change the. capabilities and Ethos of the Navy Seals. except for a very small example of some. you know female super soldier who's. capable of doing it but because of how. Washington Works they're going to change. the standards they're going to push for. quotas we have numerous quotes in the. book of no no we the these standards. aren't changing they're just evolving. okay they're just evolving okay to meet. the needs of today they're not getting. tougher they're. no so they're getting lower every take. someone like Millie I mean he was.

calling down to individual units to make. sure they had female company commanders. after they graduated from Rangers School. like what's the chairman of the Joint. Chiefs doing pushing company command. slots for it's all an agenda it's all to. say oh we have this first or we have. this that so that's proliferated. everywhere the reason women started. getting in combat is because of forward. support companies and they were you know. we were integrating a lot of the rear. Echelon activities into bcts forade. combat teams that were now deploying.

forward as an entity and so you had. women truck drivers or fuel or mechanics. or on these convoys in Iraq and. Afghanistan and then they'd be ambushed. or hit by IEDs and suddenly now you have. women in combat that's maybe a modern. reality in a 360 Battlefield that's. different than intentionally saying. we're going to put women into combat. roles so they will do the combat jobs of. men um knowing that we've changed the. standards and putting them there which.

means you've changed the capability of. that unit and if you if you say you. haven't you're a liar because everybody. knows between bone density and lung. capacity and and and muscle strength men. and women are just different and so if. you want to I'm okay with the idea that. you maintain the standards where they. are for everybody and if there's some. you know hard charging female that meets. that standard great cool join the. infantry battalion but that is not. what's happened yeah what has happened. is the standards have lowered because.

they the general comes by and asks a. question you know what questions are. when generals ask questions they're just. a command lieutenant or captain or major. why aren't there more women in your unit. that means get some more women in your. unit now and that moves all the way. through the training Pipeline and so I. I'm surprised there hasn't been more. blowback uh on that already in the book. because I'm straight up just saying we. should not have women in combat roles it. hasn't made us more effective hasn't. made us more lethal has made fighting.

more complicated most of them actually. are a lot of them are pushed I shouldn't. say most but many are pushed into a. combat track because they're so highly. capable but if they had their first. choice it probably wouldn't be that um. an 11 series job you know armor or or. infantry so I mean the Marine Corps did. the study and and and integrated units. meaning male female did drastically. worse than L male units and Ry mayus who. was the Secretary of the Navy in time in. 2015 said oh [ __ ] your study uh we're.

doing it because that's what the Obama. Administration wanted and and everything. else changed so I I'm not saying that. was the only point but that and I don't. know if that'll ever change I mean. imagine the demagoguery that would come. on in Washington DC if you're actually. making the case for you know we should. scale back women in combat and as the. disclaimer for everybody out there and. I'm not really in the disclaimer. business like we've all served with. women and they're great um just our. institutions don't have to incentivize. that in places where traditionally not.

traditionally over human history U men. in those positions are are more capable. yeah I'm not going to argue I I think. women I have to give my opinion here I. guess I think women do have a place in. combat if they want it um I think there. are certain units that they need. to stay out of or create their own. because when you said it gets. complicated yeah it does get complicated.

man I. mean. sex happens everywhere and I talked. about this on another one and I got. blasted for it like oh well you guys. should be more professional yeah [ __ ]. you okay like wasn't there like some. Senator Z had getting his ass pounded in. in DC there's your top people in okay. okay yeah then we got a president. getting [ __ ] under the under the t. under the desk like give me a break man. come on this [ __ ] happens everywhere.

everybody knows it happens everywhere in. corporate happens everywhere in. government like it's just Humanity like. people are going to have sex and that. creates drama and that breaks Team. Dynamics and creates issues between. personnel and the next thing you know. you're going to combat with a bunch of. people that hate each other because. there was some kind of a some Ty of a. love triangle going on in the platoon or. or would treat somebody differently in. the moment yeah right I mean I maybe. you're something like a female.

engagement team like I understand the. role of female engagement teams I mean. there's some amazing Pilots I'm I'm not. even talking about Pilots I'm not. talking about Pilots I'm not talking. about the ability to you know do I'm. talking about physical yeah labor type. labor intensive type job so people in. the face at close distance when it's. very personal that's the kind stuff. you're talking seals Rangers B Green. Berets you know marso infantry. battalions. armor artillery if it's if it's if. streng I'm talking about something would.

need strength is a differentiator yeah. Pilots give me a female pilot all day. long I got no issues with that yeah I. got no issues with you know so that. thank you for that opportunity to to. clarify uh but on the physical stuff. there's just a difference yep. Y Man I mean what else is there what. what else is going on with the the war. on Warriors I mean where I was going. with the other agencies is is the. Academia stuff you know and they they.

get in so it's it's coming from the top. but it's also in the education system. which we should talk about too and then. they get in to these agencies and I mean. that's so it's coming from both for sure. and it's happening not just that the you. know FBI is another prominent example of. that we saw I mean take the. assassination attempt of President Trump. I mean in a perfect world would you want. to have like 63 guys guarding a 63. president well I'll tell you what it.

sure as hell doesn't make sense to have. a 55 woman in there guarding a 6'2 man. because part of personal security is you. should be able to Shield your. principal and that obviously didn't. happen folks you know it America has. never been this close to collapse to. make matters worse we're right around. the corner from an unprecedented. political powder cake and folks the.

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bubs naturals.com. Sean so what's happening there I mean. that's Common Sense 101 where's that I. it's because standards and capabilities. have been subordinated to agendas yeah. and subordinated to quotas and the other. one that's crazy that I heard more about. than I thought is the transgender stuff. in the military yeah probably don't see. it very much in in Special Operations. but in conventional units I mean oh no.

you see it really I mean y I have a. bunch of buddies in 10th group that talk. about it right here at awesome Tennessee. um because I almost everyone I talk to I. said oh yeah our unit's got you know. this person is the TR and so we have to. do this additional training all the time. and there's all this everyone's kind of. has to be really careful about what they. say and in many cases they're sort of. like the Dei director inside their. Equity director inside the unit which. you've basically taken the Dei concept. inside a lot of these military units and.

youve I don't know I don't know exactly. what level if it's at if it's at the. Battalion or the Brigade level uh but. you've inserted that decision-making. kind of an HR process which undermines. the commander also because the the Dei. adviser you know can do no wrong and so. the assessments of the units diversity. and capabilities it's just and then. transgenders I mean the idea that do you. remember if you go through uh your mob. station to deploy um if you had a cat 4. Dental they pulled your tooth mhm.

because you can't be out in the field. with a major you know dental emergency. where there's no dentist and so I. deployed with a lot of guys who were. like because they just had a tooth pull. and they had to yet we're now. allowing people who used to be men or. women. join uh and then after that we pay for. medical or physical transitions to. another gender which by definition makes.

them non- Deployable and non-trainable. for your because they're and the same. thing with um asthma medication or. inhalers like when you're in basic. training you can't have an inhaler when. you're doing your exercises because you. can't count on having an inhaler in a. combat situation well if you're. medically dependent on drugs um to. maintain your gender or a particular. balance of chemicals inside your body. you're by definition not non Deployable. and so you'd have they'd have soldiers. who can't train can't deploy have been. on the books and yet everyone has to be.

careful about what pronoun you use with. them yeah that has nothing to do with. how effective a unit's going to be and. yet we we so something like that should. be banned on day one in a trump. Administration we're not doing the and. he did that got immediately reversed. under Biden things like that because. it's a top down I'm not saying top down. is the only way that works I I know that. I know that you top down things and and. people can ignore it and they can. maneuver it and they can work around it. I just think there's enough of a core. inside the dod that if you push top down.

and then you change the way you do basic. training and the way you do recruiting. uh and the way you do the military acmy. you have a fighting chance to restore an. ethos now that doesn't say anything. about how the politicians will use that. military in the future uh which they. have a horrible track record of but. institutionally you at least have a. chance. maybe. possibly what are we missing Dei stuff. Prosecuting our guys for doing their job. yep.

um I don't know I mean I think that one. of the one of the amazing parts of is. the is the lies that our senior leaders. were willing to tell us even though they. knew they were not true like suddenly. this idea that that Mark Millie just. discovered that the whole institution. was systemically racist that all these. bases needed to be changed like you know. Fort Brag can't be Fort Brag I mean if. I'm correct I think he was the commander. or I think he was the commander of Fort. Hood I think um you know why why didn't.

he speak up when he was at Ford hood how. how could you possibly command at a base. named after a Confederate and not say. something so what do you complicit but. now suddenly after George Floyd to your. point after defund the police it became. fattish to insinuate that the military. ranks are infected with racists that. that that it's all these white. nationalists under the radar with. tattoos just waiting to pop up and and.

ultimately um on the recruiting side. what you've done is you bud lighted. yourself you basically um we'll get to. that in a second but what they knew in. the process is it wasn't true so when. the Army and the whole military got. around to actually doing the studies of. you know extremism in the. ranks the number of extremists or. racists RIT large in our country is like. point there like 7% or whatever maybe. it's maybe I'm wrong inside the military. is. 0.7% so the military has done a better. job RIT large than other institutions of.

keeping racism out of its ranks I don't. know about you but I didn't tolerate. racism when I was a commander it wasn't. wasn't if it ever happened it was. addressed and for the most part it. didn't happen because we were all in on. the same Mission regardless of and. everybody knew that Millie should have. known he knew that but he knew what the. political leaders wanted to hear that oh. there were some vets on Capitol Hill on. January 6 they must be extremist we must. have a racism problem let's do a a a a. 60-day standown for extremism and let's.

bring in Bishop Garrison a noted you. know white hating Trump hating Dei. Advocate to lead it and as if he'll be. the one that identifies who's racist and. who isn't racist so they introduced more. racism in the name of ending racism. which is the definition of anti-racism. which is a totally racist approach meant. to divide us against ourselves yet. anyone who was in the military know. that's not the problem we have yeah and. so again the mil the book's not about. how we went woke it's how we allowed.

ourselves to go woke and it was senior. leaders and who opened the door because. it was politically advantageous for them. to do so rather than standing up for. what they knew to be true based on an. institution they were dedicated to and a. constitution they swore an oath to and. uh that's upside. down so you. think I'm not saying what I'm I think is. the right way but I do think they would.

have to do something because I'm talking. about abandoning the military. again one I think if something happened. that people like you and I would rejoin. in a in a in a second to actually defend. the country if it was under attack or a. threat of being under attack I don't see. the people that are. into the wokeness joining the military.

that's why I think I mean that's why the. retentions or the recruiting so bad cuz. it's not working like what what is the. percentage of people that are. actual trans people oh it's very very. small it's like point something percent. correct correct. so I don't see them joining I don't. think we're going to see a bunch of. Latin Americans joining I mean they. could have joined they don't believe in. what we're doing either they want to.

come here for opportunity right but they. don't believe in what we're doing I mean. they could join the cartel's army they. could join the caloa cartel's Army it's. that's a straight military you know and. probably get paid just as much as they. are here it's not like you're going to. make a lot of money as a E1 in the Army. you you don't no I mean it's. staggeringly low amount of money to your. and so how would they. replenish they would have to rid.

themselves of the [ __ ] that's keeping. people out correct correct and that's. why I think it's our only way out is um. and that's why I do think we're at an. existential moment I'm not trying to be. hyperbolic here when it comes to the dod. I think we're at a [ __ ] or get off the. pot moment yeah we are at a Tipping. Point for instit total institutional. corruption um and Trump has a chance to. reverse that should he when he wins. because what the military did I didn't. finish the thought on that is they they. committed a Bud Light like they in.

search of a non-traditional. constituency they offended their core. constituency so there aren't enough. lesbians in San Francisco to man The. 82nd Airborne mhm and in trying to cater. to that they lost the boys from. Tennessee and Kentucky and Oklahoma um. the traditional dudes who did it because. they wanted they loved their country or. they wanted the adventure or they you. know wanted to try tough things or they. they need an up and out of their. Community whatever it is they're like if.

I wanted to do the woke crap I could go. to the local community college or local. College I don't need it here I think. that could I think that could change. quicker than we. think and I'm not saying people will. rush to recruiting stations but if you. bring in a commander-in chief that the. rank and file Americans respect and then. you speak to their patriotic and their. love of country and then you say we've. removed this person this person this. person we're putting serious people in.

that have the best interest of the. institution and of your son or daughter. who's a war fighter in mind and then. we're going to create commercials that. make you actually feel like you're going. to be a part of something real fund it. properly do it. properly I don't know I think you get. rid of these recruiting shortfalls. really fast because it's a family. business right now and families are. often out does it I mean let's say let's. say Trump does get into office for. another four years and then let's.

say a Democrat gets in right after that. do you think we're just going to bat. this issue back and forth probably do. you think it needs to. fall hard so that everybody learns the. lesson if you do this this is what. happens we've seen it recruiting is gone. retentions gone like I this is what. happens I think what falling hard looks. like and I I wish this in no way and I. hope it never happens falling hard will. be when the American people have this we.

have this gigantic assumption about the. capability of our military and when we. have a moment where it's laid bare. before us uh that it's become a hollow. uh structure of itself that um take name. your historical example but somewhere. around the globe where we are expected. to. overperform where our military. tragically. underperforms uh and there's a there's a. Collective sense that our Collective. defense is not what it was and people.

start looking around and asking why uh. and then you start to get you start to. address training for shortfalls and. standard shortfalls and all the other. ways in which we've lost our way I hope. it doesn't I mean even then people might. not recognize. it but I actually think in an. institution quote unquote falling at. this point it feels really far off it. just feels like it'll become an anemic. it'll become an anemic shell of itself. yeah it'll be an anemic cell of itself. shelf totally politically attuned and. they will conscript as necessary to meet.

and then they'll just move the numbers. right so the Army was had a 25% and. missed its recruiting goal I think in. 2023 by. 25% a lot it's a lot so I think it was. like I don't know what the number was. it's like 80 instead they hit 60 or. something like that it could be and so. what did they do for 2024 well they just. reduced their standard right so now. they're only trying to recruit 50,000. into the army so that they won't miss. their goal they'll meet their goal but. they're already at a 30% reduction from.

where they were supposed to be so the. bureaucracy the institution will always. try to paper over it to make it look. like we're okay but then when you talk. to the guys on the bases in the units. and they say we are definitely not okay. like we are I mean you I've got people. that I'm in touch with in in the the DMZ. in North Korea and they're like we have. basically enough artillery for 3 days if. the rest of it's in Ukraine. like we don't. have we're you know our training days.

are cut down dramatically like it's all. very feels like a shell and and you know. history is is full of examples where. great Empires great countries overextend. themselves like we have for the last 20. years have a inflated sense of hubus of. who we are um and then when that next. big moment comes we're shocked by how. we're not as capable as people thought. no I'm not talking about problem is guys. like you make us feel really good about. ourselves because you watch what Navy. Seals can do and you watch what special.

operators can do and the incredible. things they do on our behalf that. mitigate the need for us to do it in a. conventional way that make a lot of. those questions moot points because it. can be done by somebody else in a highly. sanitized way in a way that's totally. detached from how we live um there'll. come a point when it can't just be done. that way in some capacity I think that's. the moment there's the rub it's not as. much the capability of our special. operators and oh you could speak to that. much better than I could it's it's force. on Force conventional it's China it's.

China it's Russia or it's Russia or it's. some ma Massive Internal attack that. happens because our Border's been wide. open yeah um for sure I think it hasn't. happened yet because we are weakening at. a at a pace that nobody's seen before I. mean we are just going like this and so. and know I'm sure you're familiar with. war games and simulation. and so when it comes I'm not saying that. terrorist organizations would have that. but Russia has that North Korea has that.

Iran has that China has that and so I. think if I was them what I would do is I. would put in the scenario into I would. war game it and see what the probability. is that we're going to come out on top. me we being China Iran Russia whoever. and I wouldn't make a move. until after this election because they. know what's going on they see it they. know that I mean look nobody made any.

weird moves under Trump not that I'm. aware of I could be missing something. but I don't remember any and then as. soon as they got. in Russia went after. Ukraine tensions with Taiwan getting. stronger the border Israel like all this. [ __ ] everybody's everybody that wanted. to to make a chess move on the board did. it. as soon as Trump was out of office and. we're seeing the country in Decline like. it's never declined before and so if I.

was them I wouldn't make a. move I here's when I would make my move. I would make my move the first day that. Trump is in office because that would be. the weakest point before we start to see. an incline and if they don't if Kamala. gets in there I would wait another four. years just let it keep declining and. that would just let this place get as. weak as it possibly can and then I would. pull the.

trigger and I think that's when we'll. see it I think we'll see China go after. Taiwan I think we'll see coordinated. attacks from these terrorist. organizations I think Russia probably. has more up their sleeve. Iran. Korea what do you think of that because. we're dealing with enemies with long. memories I mean and they can keep War. gaming this and I forgot to bring this. scenario up they keep they keep running. this scenario through they put in the. latest data data and they just increase.

their probability of. winning the longer they. wait unless we get a stronger leader. that starts to turn the ship. around and and all the signs are already. there with our military I. mean I wish I would have checked these. numbers before we jumped on today but I. mean China's Navy is astronomically. bigger than what we have now at this. point when they're building I can't. remember is it like a new aircraft. carrier every year or every couple.

months or something like that we can't. do. that uh the Pentagon it's in the book. the exact amount of years but in the. past X number of years 10 12 15 uh the. Pentagon has a perfect record in all of. its war games against. China we lose every time inside the. Pentagon war games we know what our real. capab you see we didn't even get to this. part of the war on Warriors I mean the. military-- industrial complex the way we.

procure weapon systems um you know we're. we're always the way our system works. the way our bureaucratic system works. where the speed of weapons procurement. Works we're always a decade behind in. fighting the last war whereas China. they're we have a we have you know what. did rosfeld say you go to the war with. the Army you have uh we have the AR. China's building an army specifically. dedicated to defeating the United States. of America that is that is their. strategic outset take Hypersonic. missiles so if our whole if our our.

whole power projection platform is. aircraft carriers and the ability to. project power that way strategically. around the globe and yeah we have a. nuclear Triad and all of that but a big. part of it and if you know 15 hyponic. missiles can take out our 10 aircraft. carriers in the first 20 minutes of a. conflict what does that look like B I. mean and and when they're if they've. already got us by the balls economically. uh which you pointed out very well uh. with our grid culturally there's plenty. of elite capture going on uh around the. globe I mean and then microchips and.

everything why do they want Taiwan they. want to Corner the market completely on. the technological future we can't even. drive our cars without the stuff we need. out of China these days I mean they they. have a full. spectrum uh long-term view of not just. Regional but global domination and we. are we have our heads up our asses yeah. uh then that that's that's the yes the. threat of our border by the way China. probably has more people here as many or. more than these terrorist organizations.

planting you know what they're doing now. they. are they have all these crypto scams. come they're trying to suck all the. money out of the country now so they. have all these crypto scams going on and. people are falling for it and I'm not. talking like chump change I'm talking. millions and millions of dollars they. give they come around and basically what. they sue is they they try to get you. invest in Bitcoin type crypto stuffff. and they'll take they'll be like hey. Pete give me 15 grand I'll turn it into.

45 and two weeks you give them the 15. grand like all right I can I can gamble. that and then they bring you 45 Grand. the next one you're it's 200,000 the. next one's a million and then the. million happens and it's gone and so. they're funneling all the cash out of. the country this is a big thing that's. happening right now in this County I. just really just got briefed up by. County Sheriff's Department on. interesting yep and this is this shit's. I think they just did a huge they.

tracked a guy all the way to Vegas uh. who was just bouncing from state to. state to state doing this and picked him. up and it's happening all over the. place they really have us from just. about every. angle and they have a grand plan and a. grand strategy to uh they believe the. the whole 20th century was anti-chinese. the whole. uh archit the whole security. architecture uh from from NATO to the.

World Bank to everything exists to serve. America's interests which in some parts. they did exist to serve the interest of. the winner um all those institutions of. course have been totally corrupted and. all of that but originally they were. meant to create a strategic architecture. that reinforced the dominance of the. West so they come they reject all of. those things um and they are seeking to. the only way they can Implement a. structure that's serves them is by. defeating us and they know that and. they're ambitious enough the leaders XII. ping and others in the in the CCP to put.

in a plan to do it and we I mean we're. too busy and then and then we not only. do we not do anything about it but we. let in Tik Tock where they can trans our. kids and they don't trans their kids. yeah like it's it's this is why. uh my and not just because of this but. like my faith has become so much more. important to me than than politics um. than day-to-day grind because. uh we can we can invest all our time and.

all our energy in in um a political. outcome and it's not going to save us um. so I I'm grateful to know who my Lord. and Savior is and ultimately that's we. know who wins the victory there um but. it doesn't mean we can't we don't need. to still be actively involved in every. way we can we still got to try. absolutely I'm with you though I am with. you but I mean are you are you conc. concerned. about nuclear. war I mean yes in the in the in a.

general sense I guess I just I found. overinflated from the beginning this. idea that Vladimir. Putin's uh attack on Ukraine was going. to lead to nuclear war or War across the. continent continent I've always felt. like it was from the beginning like a. couple days in I like this feels like. the Putin's give me my [ __ ] back War it. kind of feels like I feel like you've.

been pushing pretty hard and we used to. have the former Soviet Union and we're. pretty proud of that and Ukraine was a. part of it and all these other count I. want my [ __ ] back and I think I'm at the. right time where I'm powerful enough to. do it and you're not quite on my border. yet and Biden's awall so I'm going for. it and just like I did under my minor. incursion under Obama I got what I could. I got Crimea now I waited under Trump. now I'm going to get my and this idea. that I hear all the time and I've. friends who would probably agree with us. on most things they're like well if you.

don't stop him in Ukraine then he's. going to go all the way to Poland he's I. don't I don't think he's I mean maybe in. a perfect world where he had unlimited. capabilities and he could crown himself. king of Europe he would I think he's. probably knows enough to know that. probably not going much further than. Ukraine um and I don't think he's a. suicidal maniac who's hellbent on. bringing in areddy. iy if Ukraine can defend against defend. themselves from that great uh but I.

don't want American intervention driving. deep into Europe and making him feel. like he's so much on his heels that then. he does have to because early on he was. talking about nukes if you remember. there was this oh we have to use nuclear. weapons here or. there um so I mean I'd be interested in. your your thoughts on that but it's not. current I mean I guess if I'm thinking. nukes too the other part that concerned. me is Iran have nuclear weapons and I. that was always a bright line for us. because nuclear weapons in the hands of. radical islamists whether Sunni stripe.

or Shia stripe who believe their. martyrdom rhetoric the extent to which. they do changes the whole calculation. like if Al-Qaeda had a nuke what would. they do with it they would use it yeah. because they the mulas in Iran in ton do. they really believe that you know 70,000. Martyrs in Iran is worth the destruction. of Israel I don't know but should we. find out or that destruction of United. States are a major American city so I've. taken very seriously for a long time.

this idea that Iran can we can't. tolerate an Iranian bomb because I think. islamist with bomb is different than. Communists with bomb even though I don't. know but the in for different reasons I. think uh I. mean my I'm probably going to contradict. myself a little bit here but I think. that I mean I do we have Tech that does. not disgust. and I think that our Tech I mean we're. we're this close from having the Iron.

Dome that Israel has we you know now the. new the new thing in Warfare is you know. drones right these drone sworns yep well. a lot of people are worried about that. we actually already have the answer have. you ever have you heard of the company. epis I have not so it's. basically. um they they make directed EMP weapons. hm and so you should check it out oh. that would make sense it get a swarm of. drones yep so they'll take out 20 30.

drones just like that doesn't take ammo. doesn't I mean it's just it looks like. one of those missile launchers that we. used to use in in um Desert Storm sure. you know I don't remember what you call. them but you just they're already. deployed all over the world I know the. CEO of it the guy that invented the damn. thing and um I've chatted with him and. and he sends me videos this shit's. public though I mean you can look it up. but I mean when you see things like that. I'm. like we're good we're good I think I.

don't think these the old Tech you know. that's coming toward I don't think the. nuclear thing is. as I pray and hope and I do believe that. we probably have some sort of an answer. to that when I see things like this. coming out you know when I see the thing. that's like and it's not like it shoots. all 30 drones down individually it's. just you just see no noise just 30. drones 30 helicopters I don't know how. many it could take out at once but they.

all just fall and so when I see stuff. like that I'm like okay we still we. still have an edge here with that being. said I mean I know he he he told me that. he produced the the chips in it himself. but you know I don't know if anything's. coming from China I don't know what. other weapons we have and what's. manufactured in China or what what I IP. they have sto from us cuz that's another. big thing that they've done is they've. stole all of our IP MH and and um so.

that's kind of what I think I'm not I'm. not as concerned about it as probably. most people. but yeah I'm with you I think our. biggest threat is internal I think it's. I think we're. committing uh cultural suicide and we've. lost complete focused on the basics and. building blocks of what made Western. ization in America exceptional yeah um. fruitful prosperous strong free and.

we've we've got groups of people inside. our own country hellbent and determined. to tear them down and you see it in a. immediate manifestation in the Pentagon. but the book I wrote before battle for. the American mind was about the. progressive takeover the K through2. education system so what they've done. over the last 100 years and when you. really pull the curtain back on that. yeah we're going to have to fight for. all these other things are real but if. you don't we're in totally Uncharted. Territory where we're trying to keep a. republic keep a country while.

simultaneously raising up and training. the Youth of our country to believe that. that country is bad and I you I'd like. someone else to find me a historical. comp to that because in China they're. still teaching that China is good in. India they're still teaching India is. good Pakistan if you you name it good or. bad countries friendly or not friendly. except for Western Europe where they've. effectively committed the same level of. cultural suicide um they're they're not. teaching that we're just imperialist you. know colonialist racist sexist horrible.

land Stealers from the beginning that's. what big chunks of American kids are. getting every single day yeah and it. will form a lot of their worldview so I. as much as the war on Warriors is. important to me and our military is and. it is I mean what we're doing to shape. the next generation of kids in our. country will have the longest impact I. want to talk to about the education. stuff I'm going to ask the question. right now though that we were going to. end with about your kids joining the.

military yeah so um what do you tell. them I don't know if they've even read. it yet I you know I told them I wrote a. chapter for them but they're they're. still not all that interested even when. they're 14 sometimes they're not all. interested quite yet I mean I just mean. talking to them no I know um they they. they know from spending I don't first of. all I can't I'm not going to try to push. you know they're going to do what they. want to do they know what their dad does. and all of that and what you know that. he was proud of his service and and. that's basically what I wrote the most. in the letter is hey um besides my faith.

nothing has shaped me more nothing I'm. more proud of nothing that taught me. more about myself um it's where I got. the real education in my life not not. college grad school anything it was it. was the University of Baghdad and Samar. and Cabell and all these GMO um they're. the best of the best and but I'm I'm. also honest with them for the most part. if you don't serve you will probably. regret it now a lot of this is an a. static context where things are normal.

the way we looked at it 2030 years ago I. I recognize that but the human ethos is. the same for the most part uh but then I. turn pretty quickly to hey but this. isn't the military that I joined and. it's not the military other guys joined. uh and I have huge I have huge. skepticism about the leadership inside. this military and I put right in there I. reserve the right four years from now 10. years from now to to give you a. different recommendation because of how. quickly things are changing but. ultimately my result here at this moment.

is I would still want my boys and girls. if they wanted to be willing to serve. their country and raise their righted. hand and defend the Constitution because. I don't think yet the institution can be. completely completely abandoned by. Patriots and filling the ranks with. Patriots in those bunks at the beginning. whether it's enlisted or officer is. critically important and it would be you. know it would be. uh hypocritical of me to say we need to. revive our military but my boys are. above the ability to contribute to that.

I think a lot of it does have to do with. whether Trump wins or not I really do uh. Trump wins I feel pretty confident in. that recommendation Trump doesn't. win I you know version two will have. some edits to it uh how would you feel. if how old your oldest 17 14 14 so still. four years away I mean if if 18 was the. how would you feel if he got shipped off. to Ukraine yeah no I'm not for that no. so um I would look a lot at the world in. four years who's in charge uh what are.

we doing what have we done but the. problem is you're right I mean every. time I I make this argument I get whole. shot in it that I that I I mean the way. our military has been used in retrospect. um what if well let's rewind what if it. was Iraq knowing what you know. now what if it was Iraq knowing what I. know now I mean I just don't have any. regrets about what I did because I did. what I did for reasons I think were were. um I'm with you I don't have any regrets.

but I don't think we should have been. knowing what I know now knowing what you. know now no um and and it's not just. it's not just because of intelligence. and and weapons of mass destruction and. all that it was the it was the. developing huus and the lack of. institutional uh capability to recognize. that this whole M nation building thing. is not going to work like what do we. think we're building here especially in. Afghanistan this is Biblical times with.

AK-47s and cell phones and wor every. time we hand up a new a fresh you know. uh company of Afghan National Army. troops their weapons two weeks later. they're on sale in the in a Pakistani. Market or we build a school in a rural. area and 3 weeks later all the air. conditions are gone they're sold in the. black market cuz they don't what are we. doing we're trying to impose our view of. the world on them to include a lot of. the nice social justice causes that we. want to believe are good and right and. true and we're seeing the same thing. play out right now in South America say.

in southcom our South conon Commander is. running around talking about um women in. leadership uh lgbtt rights and climate. change in South America South cam. southcom so I mean they do other but. those are the big leadership focuses. what's China doing yeah they're. providing security protection they're. building ports they're debt enslaving. Nations so they have to work for him in. the future and They're Playing for Keeps. so is Russia in there and we're running. around talking about not so this is an. institution in my mind that hasn't.

learned hasn't learned one bit still. thinks we did a great job on. counterinsurgency so if you're if you're. not on I mean and I I look back at how. um the reasons I was an advocate for it. so directly at the time is because I. believed in it and I believe in our. country and I believe in finishing Wars. we fight if you fight it let's finish it. and then get the hell out um but don't. leave in shame don't leave the way we. left in Afghanistan but because. we fought a 20-year war and oneyear. iterations and never learned in the. process and then try.

to change hearts and Minds it didn't. work and it collapsed under its own. weight now it's worse so if you find me. someone who thinks that those wars were. better and that they we sh we think they. should do them in. 2024 um they need labotomy because they. haven't looked at the evidence. afterwards to recognize where we are it. just it just wasn't it was a house of. cards meant to fall Afghanistan was a. house I saw it in 2011 2012 my job I was. the senior counter Insurgency instructor. at the training center so it wasn't a. combat mission for me I was a trainer.

and I trained the units coming in. conventional international units all. that on the latest tactics uh and. strategy of the Taliban so what's the. Taliban and Al-Qaeda doing across all. the provinces are they gaining ground. are they losing ground what's their. approach and it was clear by then the. shadow government structure the shadow. Court structure how they infiltrated the. Ana and the& so they had they knew who. their people were would activate them as. necessary there was a lot of blue on. Green at that point going on so you had. to worry about if the guys were training. you were going to turn their guns on you.

it's all psychological warfare the whole. thing was meant to show to the. population hey we may not be in charge. right now it's the corrupt uh American. puppets that are but once the Americans. leave like we have the real power we. have the real power base here um and. that is exactly what played out over 10. years and that's exactly what our. Pentagon commanders knew but they were. always in a race to Green you know what. the race to Green is race to Green is uh. you've got red Amber green and you've. got to show that your Afghan National. army unit is at Green status ready to go. whether they're at Green status ready to. go or not uh and so we had a shell of an.

army incapable of actually defending the. country and Millie and all these folks. should have known they McKenzie all of. them and they probably did at some level. but they knew they had to say it's a. okay uh and so you get the that collapse. I. mean you saw how it affected vets when. what happened in Afghanistan happened um. it actually affected me a lot more when. the rise of Isis happened in Iraq when. that Black Flag flew over fuia and.

Samara um and to crit and all these. other towns that we' fought so hard for. and you realize what the. hell all those guys all this time all. that effort and this is what what we got. was worse and then in retrospect you're. like you know Saddam Hussein was a good. guy but it turns out those dictators. actually keep the lid on things fairly. well over there and they really don't. like his islamist cuz they try to kill. them uh maybe that would have been a. better idea than overturning the whole. aicart and welcoming Iran into Iraq uh.

and I heard people making those. arguments some of which I didn't like. people I didn't like and I I just had to. dismiss them at the time because I was a. believer in the mission that was in. front of us at the time but in. retrospect I mean we have burned two. decades of money our best and brightest. our Goodwill uh military capabilities. strategic drift in afgh fistan and Iraq. and. now we're tempted to do it again in. Ukraine thankfully so far it hasn't been. troops uh and we've got an even bigger.

threat in China on the on the horizon so. all of that does bleed into my thoughts. on my kids uh you better believe when. the first time one of them comes to me. and says Hey Dad I think I might want to. all of those will be a factor in whether. or not I would support that yeah I'm I'm. at a solid I'm at a yes but a but. trending to maybe yeah. yeah well I got a long time to think. about that so yeah but well we'll see. we'll know by then yeah we'll know by. then yeah no kidding right but um let's. move into some education stuff I'm.

really want to pick your brain on that. because I have kids but they're not in. the educational system yet so and like I. told you off offline we're going to. homeschool but good for you I mean I. hear about it all but I got to be honest. Pete I don't believe everything I hear I. I. mean I know the media spin stuff. obviously everybody is kind of figuring. that out I think but you know you have. kids in and so like how bad is it and.

you just moved to Tennessee for this. specific reason specifically for this. reason uh we moved to a school in. Tennessee specifically because of the. the curriculum the the the virtues the. belief systems of that school it's a. small conservative classical Christian. rural School uh that reinforces our. values and we moved from uh New Jersey. where there were lots of wonderful. people like States like that get a bad. rap uh but there's full of a lot of like.

faithful conservative uh Patriots but. you know the state of New Jersey the. Phil Murphy who famously said that the. con the Bill of Rights is above his pay. grade so he just doesn't really think. about he said that about covid but he's. an idiot uh they passed a bill recently. that said gender identity training which. eventually turns out to be gender. fluidity and trans stuff is mandated in. all government schools uh starting in. first. grade first grade um and I say.

government schools intentionally they're. not Public Schools they're government. schools um sure they may be open to the. public in that sense but the government. is setting the tone and I run into. people all the time I mean you're you're. dialed in and so you've made that choice. to homeschool but there are a lot I mean. a lot of dudes just like us who are like. hey I pay property taxes you know I work. hard um you know we move to a nice area. that say the schools are good we moved. here for the schools that feel like.

local control will say even here in. Tennessee where hey I've got a good. school good means you know a fancy gym. and an iPad and you know High SAT scores. and those are all fine things um what I. want to know is what's being pumped into. the minds of those kids and what you. realize when you pull the curtain back. over a hundred years is the entire. pipeline of our education has system has. been federalized intentionally um and. taken over not just by like left lefties.

or or or technocrats or bureaucrats. everyone you meet through that timeline. who's pushing hard on the shoulder of of. on the plow of education is an atheist a. Marxist uh or a socialist or a humanist. a lot of them are humanists which is. what's a humanist humanist is basically. it completely rejects um. Christianity or faith at all and so it's. all humanity is at the center of Good. and Evil right and wrong it's.

effectively secularism POS posited as an. alternative religion to Christianity so. it'll it'll find Politics as an Avenue. and so humanists are often socialists or. marxists or Communists in alongside. being a humanist but it's it's the. worship of of mankind as the highest. being as opposed to God as the highest. being um so they're all that that's the. train of people push ing this. educational philosophy and when you I. used to think it started in the' 60s. actually goes back to the Progressive. Era and even before that but they very.

intentionally the one thing they knew. they had to remove from the beginning. was God God had to come out of the. schools because God was the immovable. object that prevented their utopian. schemes they wanted you know if you want. to manipulate CH children if you want to. change the way they think rewire the. relationship of families you have to get. at the God thing cuz the the garden and. the sin in the garden is all uh disrupts. those utopian schemes and so the early. progressives Communists marxists uh very.

intentionally worked hard in their in. creating systems that slowly but surely. removed God because if you went into a. public Public School government school. in America in the 1850s or 1870s and. 1830s the Bible's in there prayer in. there scripture readings in there it's. all in there so it's a modern court that. made all those things unconstitutional. based on a misreading of the first. Amendment and freedom of religion versus. freedom from religion and the. progressives have exploited that and. then the the process from there to they.

used patriotism uh falsely to sort of. get rid of God and then once they built. an allegiance to State and and what that. was is they replaced basically the cross. and the Bible with the flag and a pledge. um the original Pledge of Allegiance was. written by a socialist Minister um and. it did not include under God the Pledge. of Allegiance originally didn't include. under God Eisenhower added under God in. the 50s when we were fighting the. Godless Communists um so you you have a. flag and you have a pledge a pledge. allegiance to the Republic by the way.

we're a republic not a democracy and our. education system pumps democracy down. people's throats and our Founders. couldn't stand democracy but that's a. whole another a whole another ball game. the left always changes language they. change language to change create an. alternate real reality to manipulate. human beings into whatever utopian. scheme of 15 minutes ago they want to. advocate for that increases their power. and control and they saw the government. school system as the best entity to do. that in and so they focused and pushed. and so the book use the other book talks.

about something called pidea which pidea. is a lost Greek word that I don't know. Greek I don't know Latin because I. didn't have a classical education um and. padaa basically means the inculturation. of the youth so what kind of worldview. is implanted on your heart or your soul. before you're 12 121 13 the vision of. the good life like Afghans have a pidea. we have what does it mean to be good to. be virtuous uh to be healthy. um what are your virtue all all those. things are in a pidea and they.

understood our Western Christian pidea. had to go and so over 40 years they. turned it into American Progressive idea. p pidea and today we're in a culturally. Marxist pidea and I and I I say. that without. hesitation with full understanding of. that there are some schools that are a. little different here on the government. Spectrum But ultimately even if you're. hiding out at a good school um with a. good superintendent good principal the. pipeline of the curriculum is the same.

as other schools because it's all been. federalized in in in Washington DC by. bureaucrats who are pushing a very. specific agenda and so the battle for. the American mind lays out the ways and. layers in which they've Consolidated. that power to a complete takeover and so. when you say get out of you know get out. of the military get out of the. institution and I say no charge ahead. right now my my um prescription in. battle for the American mind is tactical. Retreat get out get your kids out of. government school systems right now if.

you can if you have any way you know. save money move get a second job don't. take the vacation sell the boat uh. whatever drive for Uber figure out what. you need to do to get your kid out of. the government school system because. it's about saving your kid right now. because the house is on fire and that's. the first thing I don't need school. choice I need my kid out right now um. save them from the Progressive pidea. that's being pushed on their throat. subtly or not so subtly and so the book. was meant to just wake people up to that.

so that we have a Fighting Chance in the. future and that we. have thoughtful freethinking virtuous. kids who um don't think the world is. upside. down there's a lot of ways you can go. there but have you seen any progress. since you've written the book oh my. goodness yes yeah have um so the book we. started the book before Co um and then. happened in the whole and we were. writing the book and we're like we can. barely keep up with the insanity cuz Co. brought the classroom into people's. homes and then they were looking into.

the zoom screen their laptop and they're. like whoa what is this why are we doing. a land recognition uh or what is this. 1619 project or why are we using. pronouns in the what the 1619 project. 1619 project uh was written by her name. is Hannah Jones she's a quasi academic. wrote something for the for the New York. Times also wrote a book on on it and. it's the basic theory is the real. founding date of America is not. 1776 the real founding date of America. is 1619 when the first slaves were.

brought to the continent and that we. should think of America and not in the. spirit of 1776 but in the spirit of 169. because everything about America is. stolen from Indians and built on the. backs of slaves and only understanding. the um sinful founding of America can. you understand how why we are. so such a terrible country. today so it's meant to turn the whole. thing on its head and say no no no.

1776 white racist dudes who were all. basically Christian nationalists or. extremists um and we have to understand. it instead through this racial lens and. you know what it comes back to they're. all um what age does this [ __ ] start oh. that started like three four years ago. Oh you mean the teaching of this stuff. depends on your school so if you're if. you're in a in a inner city school white. or black like you might be getting it. real early you're certainly not getting.

the patriotism aspect that you would. have gotten before uh you're getting. this view that I mean sometime in some. cases we're talking kids we're talking. you know first graders second graders. third graders you know if I'm white then. I've traditionally been an oppressor or. if I'm black I've traditionally been. oppressed and then you start we're we're. re. racializing groups of young kids to. identify themselves by their race as. opposed to what our. generation I I don't know where you went. to school but it was mostly Martin.

Luther King's content of your character. not the color of your skin and my. parents would always admonish us if we. looked at the world through the lens of. race now kids are encouraged to look. through the world through race and it. all just a little story on that it all. goes back to marxists uh there was. something called The Frankfurt School. and it was a it was a it was a um think. tank or a university in Germany in the. 30s they were marxists but Hitler hated. them and wanted wanted them out so they. fled Germany and landed in in in New.

York City ironically as they're fleeing. Hitler our boys are flying over to you. know defend Europe from Hitler but they. were called The Frankfurt School they. were marxists and they showed up at. Columbia University and they had a. theory their Theory had started it it. was actually called the critical theory. University so their theory was critical. theory the school of critical theory. whatever it was critical thought or. something like that so they arrive at. Columbia University with a theory called. critical theory now we know of it now is.

critical race Theory but their Theory. critical theory effectively exists to. deconstruct uh Western Civilization. Christianity the patriarchy colonialism. whatever characterization. capitalism borders you know all the. stuff that Western Civilization had. traditionally appealed to or had been a. part of critical theory says no we're. going to attack it it uh and deconstruct. it until it's effectively worthless or. identified for the evil that it is and. so critical theory lands at Columbia.

University uh and what is Columbia. they're welcomed in by the way in part. by John dwey who is one of the modern. founders of public education and they're. given a building and they're welcomed in. and they start pushing critical theory. pretty soon it becomes a part of what is. taught at the education school at. Columbia what's the single most powerful. School of Education in America Columbia. University and it proliferated from. there across the country and you got. critical the if you go to universities. today take Harvard where I mailed my.

degree I did a graduate degree at. Harvard and I mailed it back to them. because I'm sick of their. [ __ ] I did it live on the air on the. show uh if you go to Every department at. Harvard University it's all critical. theory the lens through which they look. at their academic uh subjects are. through a critical theory lens just look. it up it's right there on the website. they're not try to hide it so you know. everybody loves Michigan people that are. alumni of Michigan they love Michigan. Sports whatever critical theory. University out the Wazoo most major.

universities use critical theory as a. baseline um they're not just lefties. anymore they're radicals across the base. and we knew that that's why the book's. not about college the books about high. school so they're pushing all this stuff. down into high schools in a place where. kids can't understand it and it's really. now just meant to indoctrinate but the. reason I told that story is race was our. Achilles heel and the marxists knew it. they usually trafficked in class Warfare. bisi. proletariat class balances they said no.

no no in America because of the Civil. War and because of our you know slavery. and all the all those things that. happened we're going to use that as our. lever and it's been far more effective. and then after you know with with George. Floyd and with all that it's it's been. on hyperdrive then you get the deic CRT. stuff I think eventually in some ways. they'll they've started to begin to. overplay their hand um people see it and. expose it and they realize for what it. is but it's still been a part of the. educational philosophy and lens through. which so many kids have seen the world. and it's super divisive and super.

dangerous. man do you think. um are all Democrats down with this. stuff I don't think so um how come. nobody's speaking up I think Democrats. are down with control I think Democrats. are down with um it's a great question I. mean look Joe Biden for example um he's. always been a partisan he's always been. an egomaniac they all are uh at that. level at some level but he made a deal.

with the Devil with the farle because he. thought it would keep his position. stable and I think that's what a lot of. members of the left who think a lot of. what the radicals think is crazy do they. just say I don't want I don't want the. protesters I don't want the mess I don't. want to be called a racist I don't want. to be called a sexist my background. isn't perfect so if I ruffle feathers. they're going to pull some clip on me. and call me this or call me that so I'm. just going to go like so it becomes a. race to the bottom like you and I have.

an opportunity to have a platform to. speak our mind and people can watch and. they can say oh Pete that guy's greater. Pete that guy's the he's the worst and. and they're afforded that. possibility most. people and that's why our job is to. speak as loudly boldly and unafraid as. possible exactly what you think without. without filter. because most people can't do that you're. you're if you're a nurse or you're a. police officer or you're you know a line. worker or whatever if you speak up on.

the wrong side of an issue um you know. people will come after you your employer. might come after you you might be deemed. as something it's even worse I would say. at some level for Democrats if they. wanted to speak honestly like if you. want to really cut Against the Grain are. you really going to start saying you. know what we shouldn't we those books. that are in the libraries about the. trans kids like or or gay sex like maybe. we just leave that out for the third. graders how about we don't do that the. machine comes down on you and says. you're not a Democrat you're a fake it's.

just like the issue of abortion or. something like you know you're not a. real Democrat if you believe that you. can't believe that so I think a there. are plenty of but but you see people. like. RFK like Tulsa gabard like Elon Musk um. I think it maybe even Mark Zuckerberg. who knows if he's had a revelation. recently or not I'm I'm hoping he's. swallowing a big old red pill but. probably not who knows he's probably. just looking out for his ass but I'd say. that's S I think that's probably right. right yeah but he did say that the Trump.

thing you know he looked he was badass. to get up and do we'll see he did write. that letter the other day I have a. theory that he's he's probably trying to. it's risk mitigation for his company but. but there are more and more freethinkers. Democrats who are saying I'm not in for. this censorship stuff I'm not in for. this group thing stuff I'm not in for. this kid stuff what's with the the kids. see that's that's what that's what. really gets me. Pete all this trans shed race [ __ ].

whatever like it bugs me it really. bothers me but it's always been a thing. it's always going to be a thing this kid. [ __ ] though Yep this like turning. pedophiles. into like some kind of sexual preference. that everybody's okay. with I don't don't know how I do not. know how you can be down with that I got. family that votes this.

way it disgusts me like. you are wanting to put [ __ ] pedopiles. on the map and make it okay to molest my. [ __ ] kids and that's not cool and I. just I just I don't see anybody speaking. up for it on that side of the aisle and. it it just enrages me. like all these other things you know you. want to you want to do that you want. to even the gender stuff you know in the.

in the in the in the surgeries on if. you're a grown adult yeah I don't like. who cares man but but this stuff like. you are you. are making it legal to take the. innocence of a child and ruin their. entire life I mean Time After Time After. Time on this show you know I talk I talk. to the I I I can't believe how many how. many people were molested as.

kids you know and these these people are. trying to make it okay they're trying to. make it normal a sexual preference we. should we should accept this [ __ ]. what the [ __ ] are you talking. about amen I mean what's the What's the. phrase um inac minor attracted persons. yeah maps maps um that's how it always. starts right some Kookie report that we. talk about on Fox about some Professor.

that said it over here like oh that's so. crazy and then you realize oh my. goodness that's spreading now they're. and now they're defending it now this. state's doing it well exactly um and it. becomes a race to race to the bottom for. you know California does it first and. then Minnesota because it really wants. to be like California does it too and. then New Jersey does it and then pretty. soon you got like a dozen states you're. like what. I don't understand it I I think it's I. think it's is that shown up in the. schools yet Max no no not that I'm not.

that I'm aware of sexual preference. classes no but think about it if you're. I mean so in some ways yes I mean if. you're if you're is that going to be the. Le the next letter in the lgbtq plus is. that the plus why I don't think we can. Define the plus it's just a plus uh but. if you start with first grade starting. to question question whether you are a. boy or a girl let's just just sort of. start there and say it's fluid and then. you know you're get into third fourth. grade and then it's like well boys and. girls can be attracted to different boys.

and girls and then and then it's books. in the library about what does it like. to explore with a boy or exploore with a. girl and that's maybe sixth grade and. then in eighth grade it used to be sex. ed was like Hey or eth n9th 10th you. know premarital sex you know is it comes. with risk you can get pregnant use a. condom whatever that was on the sliding. scale well what do you think it is now. do you think it's just my dad taught. sexed in public high school in like 19. in the 1980s like I know my dad is one. of the most is the most wonderful human.

being I know I know he's playing it. straight I know he's not adding some. theology or some he's saying the stuff. the curriculum requires him to say plus. probably hey the best thing you can do. is avoid premarital sex if you don't. want to get pregnant you don't want to. get STDs that's but if you do here's the. he's not putting banana condoms on. bananas and doing weird stuff he's just. playing it these days what's mandated in. the curriculum is an introduction of. well different people can be attracted. to different things and want different. things and you know what does what does.

consent look like and and that's consent. is obviously something important to talk. about. but it all gets very very muddy and. complic it almost feels hypersexualized. so the point of the education system. shouldn't be to explore each other's. sexuality at nauseum the point I thought. was to just make sure you're not having. you know. you're not having unwanted pregnancies. that's what they said it was and and. STDs so you want they're teaching kids.

about responsible sex which should. always have been the function of parents. at home um but you've got broken. families and all of that so I I'm not. saying they're pushing minor attracted. persons in first grade but if you're. teaching sex hypersexualized topics and. there's people that are way more. informed on this than me uh but we touch. on in the book all the way through the. pipeline then you're introducing the. idea of sexual it Earl and earlier which. only creates problems for everybody. involved uh I that's the biggest reason. we left New Jersey we were going to.

leave anyway and we're already out of. the government schools but the idea that. this stuff is being pedal and pushed now. you can you can teach your obviously you. teach your kids at home I don't want to. spend my time deprogramming my kids or. or having to play defense on what they. just heard for eight hours a day yeah. and that's a lot of Americans every day. I mean they may not be teaching that. this year but they probably will be next. year. I mean did. you do you know about the fures thing. well I've heard about I don't I've heard. about it I don't know how I'll be honest.

I don't know how widespread it is I've. heard anecdotal evidence of it it. happened. here in Tennessee it happened in uh hold. on is it Cookville Cookville let's say. I've heard of it but I've heard. of they kicked him out they said well we. moved here from California for whatever. and they said cool we don't put kids in. cages in this school get the [ __ ] back. to California. bye that's stuck thank god well.

thankfully for the most part anyone my. experience like half our church is from. California is that most people moving. from California here are moving because. they want to move somewhere that. reflects their values out of a crazy. place like California but that's what. places like this have to do conservative. places have to stay who moved here for a. reason this is what we believe in we're. not doing that stuff here you just have. to have courage to do it because they're. going to call you every name in the book. and I'm sure they did in that scenario. and everything but it's not true it's. just common sense yeah we're not doing.

that yeah well how do we how do you. combat this I mean well so you asked. about I didn't even answer your question. you asked about is there been a upswing. or is and the answer is yes because even. since the book came out we've seen. hundreds of additional classical. Christian Schools founded in the country. so the book is specifically the other. one about classical Christian education. so it does a d nois of what's happened. to k312 but then it says okay what is. the form of Education that. created the West uh that created our.

American founding and it's classical. Christian education it's uh Latin and. Greek it's great books it's uh history. it's literature it's the Bible and. theology uh it's a form of Education. that the left has completely buried and. then replaced with a a fraud take for. example uh did you take some uh social. studies mhm I took social studies when I. when I speak to groups I say who here.

took social everybody raised their hand. social studies totally made up it's a. totally made up subject before 1940 1930. 1950 in most places no one taught social. studies what you taught was history. theology geography. politics uh individual disciplines that. were meant to find truth they were meant. to find facts they were meant to find. the glory of God uh individually these.

disciplines brought us closer to. understanding truth but if you've gotten. rid of the idea of Truth or real. exploration then you turn everything. into a social science or a social study. so now you're studying Society or social. and you're you're looking at different. Trends or different movements and God's. totally divorced from that and you maybe. deemphasize this and emphasize this a. little bit more but it's all about the. same thing uh the critical theorists are. trying to do the Perfection creating a.

human Utopia by tearing down what. existed for the Ages which is based on a. lie because as as a Christian I know. that I'm inherently sin sinful I can't. be perfected uh I'm saved only by grace. and that governments don't exist to. perfect my life they exist to protect my. rights endowed to me by a Creator and I. don't look for the government to solve. all of those things uh but for utopians. for progressives for leftists um it's. the exact opposite and so our whole.

education system's been infected the. book says get out homeschooling is on a. huge ramp up classical Christian schools. are on a huge have exploded in the last. couple years and we don't take credit. for all of that a lot of that is is is. co but parents waking up and. saying you can spend all day long. listening to your show watching Fox and. getting pissed and a lot of a lot of a. lot of us do but what are you doing. about your own family yeah what are you. doing about your kids and your. grandkids that's what you have to save.

right now find a classical Christian. School find a Christian School find a. conservative School find a homeschool. pod classical conversations is an. awesome classical Christian Network of. of. homeschoolers uh. that what was that called it's called. classical conversations I know the. founder of it Leah Borton she's amazing. and and it it it's got a curriculum but. you come together you know in your. community once a week or whatever with. other families that are doing it and you. can participate in sports and stuff. anyway there's there's way more today.

than there ever was five or 10 years ago. so there's a big r and then you got. school choice making its way um Governor. Bill Lee's got to get that done here. other states have done that um now if. you can. get parent if you actually Ian you got. to be careful about this because some. people are very critical and. understandably so of money going from. the government to a school because. eventually the tentacles go into the. school scho so the money's got to be as. divorced as possible from the school so. it goes to the parents and then the. parents make whatever choice they want. um if you if you get that kind of boost.

in enough States well now parents are. taking that $88,000 voucher and they're. applying it to a classical Christian. school or a Catholic school or another. school and saying and now they can. afford it well that kind of demand is. going to is going to be met eventually. with Supply that wants to meet that need. now the the education establishment and. the unions are going to go nuts mm um. because they're in the business just. like the Vets groups of defending the. institution of the Department of. Education and public schools I just want. my kids in the school that actually I.

don't know teaches them this none of. this even has to do with reading and. writing and arithmetic which our kids. can't do anymore yeah um another example. of that is did you do remember those. commercials Hooked on Phonics worked for. me yeah Hooked on Phonics I I remember. but I remember as a kid I was in school. I was like I would make fun like hook. down fics were for me those guys be so. dumb and and I'm like and the further I. get away from I'm like that's me I never. took phonics I don't know how to. conjugate a verb I don't even know what.

a proper sentence structure looks like. because I wasn't taught that I I talk to. re on a whole word method was the new. new fad of the educational philosophy. whole Word Method so that phonics is how. we taught kids to read for hundreds and. thousands of years it worked really well. the educational bureaucrats started to. Tinker with it because that's what they. do what happened after that oh it. actually got Dumber reading scores went. like this when you teach kids phonics. they learn how to read the way they've. always learned how to read understanding. our language with roots and Latin and. Greek and others that you add to I don't.

know any of that do you know any Latin. words I don't know maybe some military. Latin words I know none did I know the. history of Western Civilization say the. Middle Ages the Renaissance the. Reformation all the the the Revival that. happened in America before the. Revolution that that created the the. fertile ground for the I didn't learn. any of that I remember coming home from. Public School in like 10th grade and. saying dad um why is Ronald Reagan. always the bad guy in the textbooks why. is he always the bad guy and I I grew up. in a.

conservative God-fearing regular old. small town America Minnesota because the. textbooks are written by lefties in New. York City and they all hate Ronald. Reagan and I got to read that Ronald. Reagan's a bad guy they like this has. just been the case for a really long. time and we've ignored it for too long. and I do think we're in a huge. educational Renaissance because it's. never that it's not going to be. the 50% of Americans that wake up it's. the 1 2 3% that uh wake up change course. for their kids they get faithful they.

get involved they get they grow a. backbone uh they fill their kids with. goodness uh and give us a fighting. chance and that's where my hope lies and. that's that's really the if if there's a. contribution that I hope to have in this. world it's seven kids that are believers. in Christ that know where TR know know. their history know their Bible love. their country and are willing to stand. up for their family uh everything else I. don't care if they're a plumber or a. soldier or a school teacher or. construction work doesn't matter if they.

if they believe those things I just. think for too long we've chased the. Harvard degree or the this you got to be. this you got to do that I feel like. that's not even relevant anymore it's. not it's not it's what are you doing. inside your home with your family and. with your life and your faith and your. beliefs and are you willing to defend. them and and I and and that feels like. the moment we're in right now yeah what. would you say do these Christian Schools. cost money they do what would you say to. the single mom who's working two jobs.

with two or three kids who can't afford. that how do they combat this have you. thought about that much harder of course. uh much harder thankfully so classical. Christian I'll just use that as an. example there's a lot of Christ. nominally Christian Schools we know that. are Christian but they're the same. Progressive SE schools as everywhere. else got the same nonsense and they. usually cost $40 $50,000 a year they're. totally unattainable because classical. Christian schools are it's a. mission-driven environment they're much.

lower tuition now still not still not. nothing but you're talking a fourth or a. fifth of these big schools tuitions so. it is more affordable a lot of them also. have scholarship programs where they say. hey if you don't have the needs our. mission is to get your kids in here so. we want to try to find a way to meet. those needs um there's also reductions. for every additional kid usually in the. tuition cost of most of these schools. that said it's still probably. unaffordable for a lot of people um.

school choice and school vouchers is you. know find a state if you can that. provides that take advantage of it take. that money and put it where you want to. put it are there States doing that yes. what states absolutely Florida's one of. them um West Virginia is one of them. Arkansas is soon to be one of them uh. Arizona was just became one of them Iowa. is one of of them and I'm going to hear. from Cory d'angelus and others who can. give me the whole list but there's a. there's a bunch of them now is there any. talk about this here we're trying yes in.

fact it failed in the legislature last. turnaround let me know when you want me. to get loud all right good uh I mean you. know the problem with Tennessee is that. everyone's Republicans but some are less. Republican than others well I figured. that yeah you it took me a while to. figure that out but now I fig figured it. out uh so there's some squishes that are. that have been in the pockets of unions. for too long in too many powerful. positions a few changes and a few. committees and I think you'll get. Universal school choice in Tennessee. which would be awesome changes the whole.

game so that single mom now has real. options who do we talk to about that. well there's gonna I think it's Bill. Lee's trying to do it I don't know that. what he's doing will be as robust as a. lot of people want there's a big. governor's race in 26 and I think that. race in large part could end up being. fought with this being one of the key. issues so for me as a when I look at. candidates I be looking for candidates. that are the most full-throated and. robust on that and then you have to make. sure you have an education Committee in. the House and Senate that is a has a. school choice believer but there's been.

a huge wave 2022 2023 of school choice. States um and then the final thing I. write in the book is kind of hey look at. your own life like and I mentioned it. briefly like can you save money can you. work another job can you drive a little. further or can you do something and I. know that's just a dig deep thing but. for that mom who loves her kids and. can't homeschool but it's that a little. extra effort to make sure that that is 8. hours a day you're able to. go as opposed to ringing your fingers.

and hoping they don't come home with a. new you know pronoun is worth it uh and. again that's not an answer necessarily. but um your Point's well taken I know. not everybody can do it and so if you. absolutely can't do it then just be. vigilant just be vigilant as all hell. just be all over what your kids are. bringing home in their backpack take the. damn phone out of their hand take it out. don't get no phones you know we've got a. we've got a blended family so it can. come with some complications but for our.

policies all in no phones 14 no phones. nice none no and we we did the summer. with no video games and no TV too it was. beautiful it was the best nice would. your kids be saying that oh no no. absolutely not my three oldest boys are. like and they gave up asking for the. Xbox 3 weeks into the summer and then. they forgot about it and they didn't. play that much anyway cuz we never. allowed them to really do that and then. you I look at TV and I go you can't even. allow your kids Netflix kids or YouTube.

kids you can't and so the the the list. of things that I would allow them to. watch on a streaming service Fox Nation. but even then a lot of that is like is. more oriented toward adults you got. Angel Studios you've got a few you know. value Al but really nothing so why why. am I just turn it off or watch an old. time mov or whatever when we want to and. I don't know I just think the phone kids. brains are not developed to handle that. yeah I don't want a portal of the world.

inside them so last thing and then I'll. shut up you could send them to classical. Christian school or homeschool them but. if you give them a phone you're going to. lose because they're going to get it. somewhere else that's a damn good point. you got to have reinforcing sectors of. fire your your home life your Digital. Life your school life your church life. should be you should try to align them. as as much as possible because a big. part of when I look back at you know my. parents are the best and I have no. criticism of it but my church life was. over here and my school life was over. here and they didn't really touch and I.

was able to say well I'm I'm a Christian. but with a secular core really and that. that changes how you operate in life. going forward and so you know 20 years. later you look back and you go. man uh. interesting you know where was Christ in. all of that in my own life um and but. everything happens for a reason so so. this school choice they're actually. they're giving vouchers out not in every. state some it's tax credits but in some.

I'll have to get back to you and get the. list of the states but there are a. number of states where they're called. educational tax credits or educational. savings accounts see politicians are. scared to call them vouchers because. vouchers have been demonized so much so. call it an education savings account or. something but a dedicated amount of. money six seven $8,000 is given to a. parent via per kid and in Tennessee it. was going to be I think 6 or 7,000 nice. um and then it got it got defeated in. the process there were two competing. bills there was a Senate bill and a. house bill and they weren't they didn't.

get reconciled and they both failed or. whatever so I'm hopeful is it is it. um is it cash or is it this has to be. spent on education it has to be spent on. education however Most states a lot of. states and I believe Tennessee would. include things like homeschooling uh. homeschooling. materials uh other forms of education. and then of course tuition I mean they I. guess what I'm getting at is they. actually check up on you're spending. this on education and not going to the.

liquor store right that would be an. important thing to to check uh I don't. know what the. oversight uh parameters are on that but. again that that's where it gets a little. scary right cuz if the dollars are. coming to me and then the government. gets to check where I'm spending them. then does the government get Ave over. where I'm spending them and if I'm. spending a good point but I think you. could set it up like a HSA health care. plan where you know you you can put what. $8,000 a year for a for a family into.

the plan and then it has to be spent on. it has to be spent on Healthcare so Esa. instead of an HSA is what they usually. call an educational savings account so. it has to be spent on education okay um. is is how it's structured it's not cash. um it's but I I don't I don't want any. part of the government telling me. what education is now education doesn't. mean going to the liquor store but you. have to set some parameters I guess at. some level but I don't want it some you. could you could Envision someday saying.

well if your school doesn't. reinforce transgender issues or whatever. then you are a discriminatory. institution and because you're a. discriminatory institution you no longer. qualify for federal funds which means. you're no longer educational institution. so I've had debates with a lot of. earnest wonderful education people that. say I don't want vouchers or educational. savings accounts cuz the minute the. government the minute the king gives you. something the king can take it away uh. and so they're skeptical but I I still.

just think the net positive for all. those mothers and fathers who you're. talking about is so much higher and. ultimately if you don't want to take the. esa you wouldn't have to and you could. go to the whatever school you want to um. and you just have to pay out of pocket I. just think there's so many people that. would love an alternative to government. schools and they just can't afford it I. got an idea I've thought a lot about. this I'd love to pitch it to you maybe. you can tell me I'm crazy or not but uh. you know and I think the good thing. about this is is it. can well I'll just I'll just tell you I.

mean the thing that I we're really. worried about this the schooling stuff. and um and uh cuz it's it has I mean I. know you say everybody moving here is. you know not everybody right like but I. sure have seen a lot of changes in seven. years but. um the way we invited a like our our. Inner Circle over to the house and uh. cuz everybody's talking about this in. our Inner Circle everybody's got kids.

that are around the same age three or. under and we. thought why don't we all pitch in and. buy a piece of property put it into a. trust to make it a like a a a group real. estate investment and then we'll build a. structure on it could be a house could. be anything that's a school it's going. to be used as a school but it's not a. school and then whatever amount that you. pitch in so let's say I don't know we.

got a. $100,000 piece of land just for easy. numbers and there's a structure already. on it and you put in 50,000 you put in. 10,000 and I put in 40,000 you have 50%. 10% 40% of the investment our kids all. go to to school there to they have. happen to go to school in our real. estate. investment hire a teacher everybody. pitches in or you don't hire a teacher. and I teach one day you teach one day.

you teach one day you find people that. have unique skills I mean Finance is. obviously something lacking in the. educational system everybody's drowning. and dead you you see what I'm getting at. right and so but that can expand to look. maybe you don't have 50 Grand or 10th. ,000 or 40,000 to put in on the. investment well then you need more. people maybe you can get maybe you rent. a place maybe there is no place and this. just goes from house to house to house.

so the single mom on the day off you're. teaching you know and and I guess what. I'm getting at is community and this can. be you know you can make it a real. estate investment it has to stay a real. estate. investment and not a school that way. there is no government oversight no this. isn't a school this is an investment and. we rent this out to I don't know kids or. you know whatever but what do you think. of that uh I don't understand there I it.

sounds exactly the end of the school I. forgot sorry the end of the school the. the asset liquidates and then that's how. you know the investment has matured and. so your 50 Grand is now worth 15 grand. CU you know I like that um it sounds. almost precisely like something like. minus the real estate side precisely to. classical conversations or what homes. School co-ops and pods are doing this. idea that like-minded groups of people.

get together they work together there. might be a coordinator but they work. together based on their skills and. ability. to teach their kid a lot of the time but. then bring in this person or bring in. that person or move to a different house. or once a week meet up have some really. well-rounded kids absolutely mod now the. real estate side of it is interesting. and I I've never thought of that aspect. of it I I that's another way to get out. from underneath feeling like the. government's going to have say over it. but thankful I mean they tried to Outlaw. homeschooling in the 60s or 70s that out.

in Oregon and and and the Supreme Court. affirmed the ability for family so it's. a pretty enshrined protected right right. now the left would love to get rid the. left would love to get rid of. homeschooling and all private schools. yeah they would they would make. everything a government school if they. could Medicare for all Department of. Education for all if they could ps8 , 493 is what they would like if they. could um so I don't mean to be. dismissive about the right that we have. right now but right now if you want a.

homeschool is pretty robust to be able. to do it U but I like that idea I mean. but even just the idea of starting that. and expanding that like people will be. attracted to that yeah oh my goodness I. Sean's involved in that I respect that I. like that they're involved boom and then. you start to get a uh as long as you. maintain your standards and what you. want it to what you believe in. I mean that's the key culture protection. is key it's just amazing to watch all. these schools yeah that that were. traditionally this or traditionally that. um I mentioned Harvard like it was.

founded to train ministers in the in. when it was when it you was it really. yes it was founded to train ministers. and so the last draw for me when I sent. my um degree back was I mean there were. a thousand draws but then it was finally. um Harvard announced that its head. chaplain was going to was it's knew head. chaplain was an. atheist I was like really that's. interesting that's interesting yeah. sounds like the dumbest [ __ ] I've ever. heard I'm out you know and so I tore my.

diploma out on live on the air and. signed it and wrote back and I obviously. not heard back from them but I mean o. iteratively over time over hundreds of. years an institution founded on one. thing became something else and we have. that job culture protection for people. of faith and conservatives and. Christians and Patriots is key once you. give on one thing oh this aspect of the. First Amendment or this aspect of the. Second Amendment or or we're going to. start doing a little bit of Dei a little.

bit you you just keep giving and pretty. soon you give your way all the way to we. have no no we have no no defense anymore. yeah um let's just see it time and time. again yeah well I like planting these. seeds cuz it's good it's a good idea we. look for ideas and you know just watch. it grow and and uh it's spoken like a. businessman you know why not make a. little money while we educate the kids. too yeah but um well Pete I know uh. we're under a time constraint and I just.

I just really appreciate you coming out. and uh what a great conversation I hope. to see you again well I appreciate. everything you've done you continue to. do um and and thank you for giving voice. to those Raven 23 guys um and being a PL. I can't like I told you I can't tell you. how many guys said you got to sit down. with Sean and see what he's doing there. uh you got huge respect and you know. that appreciate everything you stand for. all right Pete you got it thanks. [Music].

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