Nick Freitas - Woke Schooling, Identity Crisis, National Divorce and Parenting Advice | SRS #75

hey everybody welcome back to the show. this week this episode we talk a lot. about the current issues that our. country faces today but I think that the. most important segment of all in this. entire show is a discussion that I have. with my next guest about all of the. fatherless children fatherless families. kids that are growing up without a male. role model and the devastation that that. can cause in their lives and then we.

talk about how to be a good dad how to. be a positive male role model for both. your sons and your daughters something. that every father should be paying. attention to and want to B themselves. with so if you get anything out of these. shows please like comment subscribe head. over to Apple podcasts and Spotify. please leave us a review tell us how. we're doing patreon.

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Nick frus welcome to the show man no. thank you very much it's it's an honor. my pleasure um so I've been tracking you. on Instagram for quite a while now and. you are on fire man and I love just. about everything you have to say and so. took me a couple months I to digest some. of your content but we finally got you. here and I'm we got a whole slew of. topics that I want to cover with you no. excited I really appreciate it yeah but.

let me give you a quick intro here. so you're a Christian husband father. former Green Beret combat veteran member. of the Virginia House of delegates grew. up in Chino California married your high. school sweetheart Tina in 1999 you're a. father of three two daughters and one. son spent some time in the 82nd Airborne. join the Army Special Forces Green Beret. after 9/11 22 ERS in.

Iraq uh then you transition to civilian. life. and am I missing anything no that's. that's you got it. podcaster yeah yeah how do you like. doing that I I I love it um it it's. actually been a lot of fun in part. because you get to you get to talk about. the things you want to talk about uh a. lot of times with people that you know. are interesting or have inspired you or. that you've um you've read in the past. and uh that's a lot of fun I I I.

remember the first time we started. getting involved in more like short form. content and things like that and um you. know my kids would tease me and I I. loved looking at my teenage daughters. and be like how do you feel about your. daddy having more followers on Instagram. than. you yeah but it's been good good well I. got a ton of uh subjects I want to cover. I'll just run you through them a little. bit I want to talk about leadership of. men veterans and politics Second. Amendment which you're huge on school. shootings love to dive into that China.

and Taiwan National divorce you do some. great content on what that might look. like digital Central Bank southern. border and depending on how much time we. got left we'll get into some UFO stuff. maybe and uh I want to I really want to. talk to you about homeschooling yeah and. something else that I would like to talk. to you about being a man of faith is. some of the hypocrisy that's going on in. the church in the in the in Christian. Catholic.

I believe in Jesus types uh some of the. hypocrisy that goes on within the church. but but before we dive into all those. heavy topics everybody gets a. gift got any uh oh go ahead Lean Back. see this is uh see there we go I needed. uh I needed one of these cuz I forgot my. coffee mug and that's become that's kind. of how I'm known now we got you covered. are these the nice so that is so that.

you're a coffee guy oh yeah this is. lired superfoods coffee so that's a. mushroom performance coffee oh really. yeah so I really got into after talking. there's a creamer in there too for your. wife I know you like it black but uh. that's right but she does shees that's a. mushroom performance creamer thank you. you're welcome and so I. really as you know we cover a lot of you. know former veterans soft guys like me.

and yourself yeah and we talk a lot. about post-traumatic stress we talk a. lot about traumatic brain injury and. just mental health in. general and so I started looking at. products to kind of promote brain health. and um and all kind of stem from a. psychedelic experience I had and um quit. drinking for 2 years afterwards haven't. had I haven't had any caffeine uh or. coffee since then not that that's bad. but.

um uh and I'm more in the moment a lot. of like positive stuff and it sent me on. this journey to to improve my brain. health and I started looking into. functional mushrooms and now I'm a. partner with layed superfoods and that's. the cleanest stuff you can get for brain. health no I I appreci I first started. reading about that with Jordan P we. actually had legislation last year in. the general assembly in Virginia where. they were talking about various um. psychedelics and things like that for. treatment and um there actually ocra. colleague of mine called me up and and.

said hey I would you would you be will. to co-patron this would you be will to. support I'm like yeah I'll vote for it. really and she she was a little bit. surprised because you know that the. typical uh the typical response for uh a. lot of Republicans and whatnot whenever. it comes to to drugs and whatnot is like. absolutely not no never it's it's all. bad I was like well wait a second this. is we're actually seeing guys that have. had positive results um with with doing. this in a responsible envir.

you're just going to say no you're going. to make it illegal for them to do. something that is that is helping them. so um no I I I I appreciate that my. pleasure my pleasure thank you for. helping with the bill well hopefully. we'll get it passed next time yeah. there's a lot of talk about that all. over about in politics with psychedelics. and and I hope they hope they get it. through and I hope they do it. responsibly too cuz this definitely. has there's another side to this you. know and um I don't want to see.

psychedelics go down the same road the. painkillers and and and um benzos you. know that that that path went down but. um but. anyways one thing that I didn't tell you. that I wanted to cover. is Nick I don't I don't think it matters. what side of the aisle you're on. everybody thinks that the country is. falling apart it's it's the first topic. of discussion that gets brought up with.

everyone I talk to doesn't matter what. their occupation is it doesn't matter. what side of the fence they're on it's. always what what's happening to our. country and Green. Berets have I mean you guys are the. first in you you you get in there you. develop a fighting force uh for the. oppressed and you're very familiar with. how this stuff happens.

so how would you. deconstruct and demoralize a. nation um I think it a lot of it has to. do with I think in the simplest terms. it's uh it's an identity. crisis um why do people fight for a. nation what does it even mean to be a. part of a Nation it's generally you have. a shared cultural shared. experiences um shared icons um you you. have all of those things which build. some sort of connection to the Past.

and then association with everybody else. so that even if you disagree on various. things there's still unifying components. within your culture that you can both. hearken back to and look on with a. certain element of Pride um but that. also are important for developing. Traditions um one of the there's an. interesting quote I think um I think the. uh the person names was Belle and he was. he gave a definition of culture and he. goes what is it he goes it's society's. attempt to come up with a coherent set.

of answers to the existential questions. we Face throughout our lives if you. think about that that it kind of works. culture is not it's not just skin color. it's not um it's not race it's not um. you know food or dress or or it's kind. of all it can be all of those things but. it really comes down to fundamental. questions that how how does a group of. people that have individual objectives. for their life different preferences and. whatnot but how do they live in in. society with one another where can.

cooperate uh in order to achieve. something um and in other times you know. leave each other alone when they. disagree but but still feel a sense of. unity camaraderie and and. connection so uh how do you how do you. break that apart um well you have to. challenge the overall narrative both of. the history like how did you how did you. get to where you are today because if. you take pride in it um well then it's. something worth preserving um and and. even if you think that there's a problem. with it you might want to fix those.

problems so perfect example within us. history would be if you view US History. through the lens the philosophy of the. Declaration of Independence we we. believe you know we find these truths. self-evident that all men are created. equal and that they're endowed by their. creator with certain unalienable rights. that among these are life liberty and. the pursuit of. happiness now you can look back and say. we didn't live up to that some people. might even say we we're still not. totally living up to it the the way that. we should which is maybe why in the. Preamble of the Constitution it says to. create a more perfect union it's because.

we we recognize but that sentiment is I. believe true and Noble that you're. endowed by your creator that the rights. that you have are not just you know. preferences or gifts that the government. gives you that there's some there's. certain rights that are inherent about. being a human being uh that we are. created equal and that again we're. endowed by our creator unalienable. rights life liberty and the pursuit of. Happ not the provision of it the pursuit. of happiness.

that is a pretty strong I believe that's. a pretty strong um philosophy to build a. culture. around but what if I come back later and. I tell you that yeah that sounds really. nice but the guy that wrote it was just. a slave. owner um in fact all these these people. that you know were trying to set up. liberty no they they just wanted Liberty. for white men because women couldn't. vote at the time and you know what they. just really didn't want to pay their. taxes that's what this was really about. so what do you have you have a white. patriarchal society that was rooted and.

enslaving certain people based off of. the color of their. skin and um they set up this system. because it would be beneficial for them. financially and all of your other ideas. or Notions about what a wonderful. philosophical concept this was that was. marketing that was marketing to help. rich white guys get what they want at. the expense of other people that's all. it was well right at the B right at the. the get-go I've completely undermined. why you would want to fight for such a. culture in the first place so once once. I start undermining the the cultural.

ties the bind now let's admit a couple. of things we can look back and say there. are elements of that statement that are. true but then all of a sudden when we. put it back in context and we recognize. well wait a second every society at the. world at that time had some form of. institution of slavery every single. Society at that time you know had some. of the the bad things the negative. aspects of it that we just discussed so. what was different well what was. different was what they were actually.

rapidly expanding the concept of Liberty. and suggesting who it should apply to I. mean to to say in. 1776 after thousands upon thousands of. years of history that were rooted in I. mean racially based discrimination that. were were rooted in a political Elite. controlling everything um you now have. somebody say no no no we're we're all. created equal and even if we're not. living up to it that is the standard. that's the truth that was revolutionary.

that's. incredible and it's easy to look back. now 200 plus years later and say well of. course that's the way it's supposed to. be it wasn't of course back. then they they fought for that they died. for that they might not have fully lived. up to it but they set us on the path to. be able to achieve a level of individual. liberty prosperity and security that is. unheard of in world. history but if I erase all that and and. I view it purely from this lens without.

any context I can convince you. especially if you're a younger. person I can convince you that this is. all bad especially if you can still look. around at society and find certain. inequities right there certain. disparities of. outcome well some disparities of outcome. exist because of bad policy some. disparities of outcome exist because. you're lazy and that dude works hard. that's that's not an injustice yeah it's. not an injustice that the guy you know. working super hard in a in a high demand.

field makes more money than the person. that isn't doing those things but if I. can convince you that it actually is. Injustice well what am I doing i' I've. taken away your shared history I've. taken away your shared connection with. your neighbor and now I'm I'm. supplanting that with a different. narrative and that narrative has to be. rooted on who do I need to be fighting. with the people in. power and that's where I can come up. with the whole system of oppressed. oppressor you're you're the person that. the entire system is stacked against I'm.

going to uh essentially Galvanize your. support and I'm going to point you at an. enemy real or. imagined um and I'm going to give you a. new narrative because I can't just say. the old narrative is bad I got to. replace it with a new one so I give you. a new narrative and I make that the. narrative worth fighting for because now. your entire identity is caught up in. that narrative it's your entire identity. is caught up in that. movement um because I haven't left you.

with anything else right because your. nuclear family that's a tool of the. patriarchy right your country that's. just racist bigoted and. discriminating right your your very. identity well I don't know if if you are. a certain skin color or uh you know. you're you're heterosexual or whatever. else well you're part of the oppressor. class how do I get you into how do I. move you from the oppressor class into. an ally class or the oppressed who are. the good guys you have to change the. nature of your identity what if it. doesn't correspond with reality what. objective reality postmodernism tells us.

there is no objective reality there is. no objective truth there is only lived. experience there's only oppressor and. oppressed and if you're an oppressor. you're a bad guy that needs to be taken. down and there's nothing you can do. right it's the as my friend Christian. puts it it's the original sin Theory. with no. Redemption I do all of those things and. now I have a very powerful group of very. disaffected. people that have a philosophy rooted in.

nothing other than the movement yeah and. at that point now it's just a run. through the cultural institutions it's. everything gramy talked about in Italy. in the. 1930s it's the idea of looking at the. institutions which form. culture and we tend to look toward. politics but politics is Downstream from. culture the real cult culturally shaping. institutions are your school system your. Academia media the Arts and. entertainment Hollywood. they're the ones that are actually.

telling you the stories about who you. are what your country is and everything. else and if they've all decided on a. particular narrative and that narrative. is rooted in in like in the United. States largely in postmodernism. deconstructionism critical theory and. now all of a sudden your your feet are. firmly planted in nothing well then that. identity crisis provides me a huge. opportunity to be able to destabilize. what it is and replace it with what I. want it to be how do you think they got. how do you think all these Academia the.

school system Hollywood the media how do. they all wind up on the same narrative I. think the the the overly simplistic. answer um is the Yuri bov answer and. Yuri banov was a former uh he worked he. wasn't a KGB agent he actually worked uh. kind of in journalism and and he. arranged a lot of these junkets for. foreign diplomats and foreign. journalists that come into the USSR at. the time and write positive stories but. he he essentially worked with the k. GB and um he talked about a a system.

called active measures and this is. something we know it's not conspiracy. theory the KGB involved themselves in. active measures which were attempts to. destabilize foreign countries in order. to um make them more friendly to to. Marxism and specifically the. USSR now you could argue well hasn't the. United States also tried to do that in. order to get people closer to them it's. a little bit different with respect to. how it was done but in certain cases it. it could be there could be similarities. right or there are.

similarities I don't think that's wrong. in the sense that it didn't happen we. know it happened we we know that the. Soviet Union um worked very very hard on. infiltrating into areas of Academia and. the Arts and entertainment because they. realized they were culturally shaping. institutions uh Fidel Castro once said. he was invited to go speak at Harvard. and he once said he goes you don't find. the radicals in in the labor unions you. find them in the. schools um so we know that took place.

uh the other thing that I think took. place and this was something that that. grami wrote about which grami was a was. an Italian socialist who was who was. jailed by musolini who had also been an. Italian socialist before he became a. fascist but one of the things they. talked about was that when when Marx. first started talking about his concept. of Revolution and workers of the World. Unite his idea was that people generally. saw themselves as being um economic. entities so they they the the primary um. kind of individual identity was rooted.

in your economic class and he actually. believed that a nation had to go through. capitalism before it could get to. Communism what they found out in. practice is it never worked that way it. wasn't the Western capitalist countries. and democracies that that embraced. Marxism it was feudal Russia it was. zarus Russia um and they started to. recognize and Graham she writes a lot. about this where he talks about the. March through the institutions or that's. what that's what has become dubbed and. it was this idea a that it's not good. enough to Simply say you know hey you.

workers of the World Unite because. honestly on a on a pound-for-pound basis. workers in the west and within. predominantly free market economies tend. to be doing better than in these other. places he goes it's the entire culture. that has to be. changed so if you look at it from the. standpoint of you you had a a ready-made. philosophy with Marxism and critical. theory which has a very different people. look at that as almost a purely economic. uh people who don't really follow it.

look at as almost a purely economic. theory it's not it it's a it's an entire. social theory um it's an there's a. reason why it's hostile to God it's. hostile to the individual family it's. hostile to everything um that is we. generally think of as being rooted in in. Western free market representative. democracies and. republics um so if you have the. philosophy and you now have a government. which is engaging in active measures in. order to try to put that philosophy in. there you have a core that you can work. with so what else did they have within.

the United States what was a legitimate. critique of the United States when a lot. of this was going during the Cold War. racism and segregation that was a. legitimate critique MH um oh yeah you. talk about your great Freedom you talk. about you know your wealth but look at. what you're doing with Jim Crow laws um. look at what you're doing perfectly. valid critique now the Frederick Douglas. response to that sort of thing that he. addressed in the 1800s was he didn't. throw out the Constitution the.

Declaration of Independence he appealed. to them he looked at all men are created. equal and says no no no you're not. living up to what you believe and you. should live up to it this new movement. was like what you believe was always. wrong in the first place and we need to. replace it with something else and. that's the you know radical. egalitarianism um. collectivism but these things don't just. work because the KGB decided to you know. infiltrate some universities are. Hollywood.

MH it works I believe in part because. and and this this is rooted in my faith. and and I think Christianity doesn't. just uh I don't think it's just a nice. story I don't think it's just a nice set. of morals I think it does more to. explain the human condition than. anything I've ever read this idea that. there is a sinful nature that we contend. with um but there's also such a thing as. love Justice and Redemption. there's such a thing as objective right.

and wrong there's such a thing as. objective. truth well if you're growing up in a. society where you've been rooted in none. of that or it's been ripped out of you. or you've been convinced that this is. all about inequity and disparity of. outcomes and therefore the the proper. way to address it is going to be through. political action and the accumulation of. political power so you can punish the. oppressors and lift up and Liberate the. oppressed right and look as a Green. Beret our motto was to free the. oppressed MH. um but that's the part part where that. is an appealing message uh in part.

because we ultimately don't want to come. to full grips with the evil that resides. in. us um when. you've spent time uh in combat when. you've uh spent time I think in law. enforcement and other people just by by. nature of finding themselves in very. dangerous or abusive situations. evil becomes a very very real thing it's.

no longer just some nice philosophical. construct with a bunch of people. discussing what constitutes evil or how. do we measure it um when you've seen. truly horrible. things the way I put it once is you. don't I don't think you fully recognize. evil when you see it you realize it what. it is when it looks back yeah and um I. would agree with that yeah and so I. think we have a lot of people who don't. want to contend with that they want to. believe that um it's kind of beyond.

their control and so they're going to. put uh the responsibility onto the. movement to make everything better and. they'll act within the movement. obviously but when the movement does. something no matter hor how horrible in. order to achieve these positive instates. well that's just justifiable it was. necessary what did Ma say you know you. don't uh A revolution is not a dinner. party. um there's another book called The True. Believer. where he talks about the nature of mass.

movements and one of the things he. really stresses in that is the danger of. movements which stress to separate. people from everything they've known. from maybe it's from God maybe it's from. their family maybe it's from their. Traditions um and having left. orphaned the movement becomes the new. family and the movement becomes the. sense of their identity and without the. movement they don't know who they are. and so whatever the movement needs to do. in order to justify its objectives. ultimately becomes morally.

acceptable where do you think where. where does this stem from I ask. everybody this when we get into these. conversations where do you personally. think this is stemming from is it Russia. no I I I think. um I mean I again I think a lot of the. the economic social and political. philosophy which motivates it is is. rooted in critical theory which is. rooted in Marxism which is also again. heavily picked up and influenced by. postm ISM deconstruction which leads to. critical race Theory and queer Theory.

and everything else I think all of that. I think all of that. um provides an almost comprehensive. picture of of what's going on but I. think it's more fundamental than that um. and this is the part where people get. uncomfortable with this as a theological. conversation but let's think about this. logically for a minute if everybody has. a. worldview and the starting point of. every person's worldview relies on some.

element of Faith right The Atheist may. say oh no no I don't I don't put my. faith in anything I trust logic so you. have faith in logic because logic cannot. ultimately justify its own existence you. can argue it's a priori if you'd like. but it it doesn't you're going to run. into problems um how do you trust your. own mind to properly interpret logic you. know everybody's worldview starts with. that fundamental. position my fundamental position is that. there is a God. there is right and wrong there is.

objective truth um there is objective. morality and my job is to seek out and. understand that because in so far as I. can live in accordance with that I can. achieve my purpose I can take care of my. family I can do noble and good things. because there's now a measurement for. that which is noble and. good if you reject that or if you want. to rebel against her you want to replace. it with something else because that's. the that's the key it's this idea that. once I get rid of God I you know it's. not that I replace it yeah you do you. have to by by the very definition of how.

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I mean nii pretty much broke it down. that you're going to have the Quest for. pleasure the quest for power perhaps the. Quest for both but is that really enough. to sustain you or give you genuine. purpose or meaning what if it's. untrue I know a lot of unhappy rich. people M I know a lot of unhappy. powerful people mhm um so I do I do. believe it's fundamental um and again. for me that's it's really simple I think. I believe what Christ.

said um and I believe that's not that's. not rooted in wishful thinking I mean my. gosh if you were going to try to create. a religion uh or a worldview that was. going to make your life easier you would. not pick Christianity yeah that's true. but I want to pick which's. true because ultimately with without. truth and without the believing that. there's such a thing as objective truth. how do you even arrive at love how do. you arrive at logic how do you arrive at.

science how do you arrive at Justice. what is Justice if there's no such thing. as objective truth how do you define. it and what I see is a lot of people. that want to ignore the. fundamentals and then chase after these. things that give them this temporary. sense of meaning or purpose or Community. or whatever else but ultimately it all. Rings Hollow because they're trying to. replace something that is not going to. be replaced by a movement or a feeling. or a sexual act or whatever else it is. and the only thing I can say is when you.

find it and you know what it. is the greatest proof for me what I. found it's going to sound a little. esoteric but I don't know how else to. put. it the greatest uh proof that I. personally experienced aside from. digging into the history of like. scripture or digging into the logic of. it or digging into the epistemology of. it there's this verse that says that. that talks about the peace which. surpasses all understanding.

and we we are living in a country right. now where people are desperate to find. some sort of of Peace like that and what. I find fascinating about that verse is. it doesn't say you'll have peace it. doesn't say the peace that everyone. clearly understands because obviously. everything's going good for you and. everything's wonderful and everything's. Rosy it says the peace which surpasses. all understanding which means the rest. of the world is looking in going how how. is this possible this is it's it's chaos.

and it's poverty and it's violence and. it's everything else and for some reason. this guy isn't shaken. why because I already know what I. believe faith my identity is in Christ. it's not any of this temporary stuff. some of this stuff might be good it. might be worthwhile it might be worth. fighting for but I know where my. identity is and if you know that well. then yeah bad things are going to happen. you got the mechanism to fight against. it. you had the meximum to create something.

beautiful out of struggle and. challenge but if you don't even know who. you are or what you're doing here what. your purpose is I me that's miserable. yeah man that's a great way to put it. what what percentage of the population's. culture here in the US do you think has. changed because reason I'm asking and I. don't know if you've ever thought about. it if you haven't that's fine but you. know you look around if you look at the. media you look at social media you look.

at everything you're being told what the. schools are saying maybe not all the. schools but you mean we hear there's a. big problem in education yeah and. Academia you. know it looks like this culture shift is. everywhere yeah legit like everywhere do. you do you think that there is actually. that many people here in the US. who have shifted their culture into this.

new whatever you want to call it the. woke agenda or or whatever or do you. think this is a facade that's put on by. Hollywood Academia. media I think. that what was it I think it was Samuel. Adams that was saying that um you all. you need is a really dedicated minority. it's not majorities that actually start. revolutions or change things it's a very. very de dedicated and determined. minority I I think. um I don't think a majority of Americans.

like if you sat them down would sit. there and say yes I genuinely believe. that if you identify as X Y and Z well. then reality has changed or adjusted. that to make it so I don't think they. really believe that but what does it. matter if they're not willing to say. it's wrong yeah and um there's this. there's. this there was a guy that wrote a book. he was a. doctor um his pen name is Theodore dmle. I think his actual name is is Anthony I. think it's Anthony.

Davies but he was a a British doctor in. uh Subara Africa and then he worked in. the British Health Service and the. prison service is a psychiatrist for. many years and he wrote a book called. The Life at the. bottom and. um he's not he's not a Christian I think. he's an atheist or maybe he's a deist or. agnostic I'm not sure but he had this. quote he said he goes the more I studied. communist propaganda the more I. recognized that it wasn't meant to. inform but it was meant to humiliate and.

intimidate and therefore the less it. corresponded with reality the more. effective it was because when you can. first convince someone to be silent in. the midst of obvious lies and then get. them to repeat those lies you make them. a party to. evil and he concluded it by. saying such a society or a society. composed of emasculated Liars is easy to. control. he said I've since come to the. conclusion that political correctness.

works the same way and for the same. reasons so I don't know that a majority. believe it what I'm wondering is where. is our strong minority that's going to. stand up and call this for what it. is. because most people are very very. consumed with just trying to live their. lives yeah um and if just living their. lives means going along with whatever. intellectual. absurdity happens to be popular today.

they may be willing to accept it. thinking it's just a fat only to wake up. too late to find out it. wasn't do you think it's a fat no I. don't either I think I. see I see more and more people starting. to speak up about it um I see it in. numbers I see it in ratings I I see I. find my hope hidden in like these small. Pockets you know and I look at I look at.

media numbers they're. sinking dramatically you know it's. it's it's been a huge Downs slope since. 2020 and it's just it's spiraling out of. control I feel like now that they're. just grabbing on to anything they can. possibly get to try to get them. numbers and you know and then I look at. I look at things like we're both. podcasters we look at the top podcasts. all the top podcasts not all of them a.

lot of them are talking about things. like this when that gives me hope you. know to see like the things that you. can't I mean I guess they could fudge. them but they're not being. fudged 100% yet and you're seeing you. know these up you see the Bud Light. thing you see the target. thing you know and that gives me hope I. think there's but I agree with you you. know what what's the old say saying evil. prevails when good men do nothing and.

even just people always want to know I. mean I'm sure you get it on your podcast. too you know what what can I do what can. I do what can I do to your point. um just because I don't think it's a fat. and just because I don't think and just. because I do think it has gained far. more prominence than than we realize. doesn't mean I'm not hopeful um and the. reason why and the reason why I am. hopeful is because I actually don't. think I don't think it's going to take.

as much as a lot of people think it will. to beat it. back my concern is where they're going. to look to do that and I think a lot of. people will look at it a lot of people. that let's say more on the conservative. or even more of like the libertarian. side uh less the Libertarians more the. conservatives are like well if we just. elect the right people yeah look I'm an. elected official I'm not telling anybody. politics isn't important but you know as. we talked about at one point if you are.

waiting around for a politician to. preserve your Liberties or to protect. your family or to protect you you're a. failure and and I don't know how else to. put it yeah my job and and here's the. part too for because men are especially. under attack right now th those men that. believe in in traditional standards of. what they're supposed to do as as men as. husbands as Fathers as protectors as. providers there all be being told that. these are are toxic.

attributes and it's like no when you. look at things like aggression when you. look at things like a capacity and a. capability for. violence those are not toxic in and of. themselves they're morally. neutral and I will tell you this if the. good guys don't know how to use those. things they're going to be ruled by the. bad guys and so that instinct that that. young men have and they're looking for. leadership and they're not seeing it. um they're the ones that are start to.

when they when they see the stuff that. you talk about when they see some of. these other podcasts and all of a sudden. it's like they have a sanctuary of. people that are telling them that no. those instincts that you have are good. but they have to be developed and they. have to be fostered in such a way as to. serve the noble and the just and the. true as opposed to giving in the other. use cases for them and that's the part. where when people start recognizing that. uh a lot of the way the best way to. fight against this is not just to be.

active politically it's not just to um. you know go out and protest and things. like that if if you want to if you want. to point out a. lie the very next thing you better do is. point to the. truth and the truth is never going to be. adequately defended simply by good. argumentation it's going to be. adequately defended by you living it out. in your life and people seeing seeing. the fruit of that like we did these. things we told K culture to go pound. sand to piss off and we adopted these.

things that we knew that were going to. be true with the way that we ran our. marriage with the way that we raised our. kids with the way that we raised our. business with the way that we conducted. ourselves with our friends with our. family with our community and this. success speaks for itself because this. other path will lead to chaos it is only. a matter of time it is not an if it is a. when it is a how bad and when people. feel like and when people finally wake. up to the point that we were lied to. about. this one of two things is going to. happen they're either they going to jump. onto the next lie which happens to be. convenient and grab their attention or.

they're actually going to be convinced. of the truth because there was enough. people willing to fight for it and. actually display. it I love hearing that you know. the let's talk about some things people. can do you know back to that quote evil. prevails when good men do. nothing there are so many I think. Americans have they've been spoonfed. everything you know you know and and. when I say good men do nothing I'm not.

saying you need to get out and protest. get out and start a revolution any of. that I'm saying just do something. get loud about it let's talk about like. I want to talk about this anyway so. let's just do with now school shootings. yeah you know what I see and this has. been going on for forever I tried to get. involved with the uh after Parkland. happened several years ago and all I see. over and over and and over again you. know our parents that want to pass the.

buck MH you know it's it's it's it's the. second amendment's fault it's the. school's fault it's the police officer's. fault it's the security gu's fault it's. you and it's always everybody else's. fault my question is what did you do as. a parent to teach your kid what to do. when this happens it's happening mhm. politicians aren't doing anything about. it this has been going on for I wish I. knew how many years at least 20 years M. you know.

and and it just happened here in. Nashville Tennessee you know at covenant. and every time this happens you see. these parents and it's well why aren't. they going to hire this why aren't they. going to hire that and in here in. Franklin there's a school a private. Christian. School and everybody's everybody goes on. about this right nobody wants to do. anything the parents all got together. and they said hey we want to pay you.

more we want to pay you more to get a. field security officer in here A real. one and which I think that's great why. wouldn't you do that why wasn't it done. 20 years ago well the administration at. the school basically told the parents. absolutely not we're not doing that. mhm I don't know anybody that took their. kids out of the school and put them into. a place place that does have one yeah. that's what you do that's how you fix.

this you remove your kid from the. business that you're supporting the. school mhm and put them into a school. that's doing the right thing yeah and. then when they have no more students. they'll realize they're going to go. broke and starve and maybe they'll start. doing the right thing or they'll stay on. their high horse and start you know but. it's it's it's little things like that. it's you don't agree with what Target's.

doing I know it's convenient I know you. live five blocks away from there spend. the extra 15 minutes and go to Walmart. or go to whatever store that's not. pushing that agenda you know and and but. they don't do. it well if you if you it's that simple. though that's doing something yes no no. I and I I agree I think that um I I will. see people come on the ask the same. questions and we've done we've done a. lot of episodes on our on our podcast.

talking about what can you do and one of. the biggest things that we push to. everybody is stop stop with this idea. that what you can do is again vote for. president or what you can do is you know. change things which are so far beyond. your control that you're going to get. easily frustrated and and quit so so. what are practical things you can do and. oh by the way how do you develop. discipline how do you develop good. habits and then don't look for the don't. look for the suckiest thing you could.

possibly do first. um when when I walked in during Co to. the grocery store and I saw be shelves. for the first time in my adult life in. America it that really hit me home where. it's. like this is bad and and I and it's not. like I thought it was going to last. forever but I didn't like the. feeling well there's two approaches you. can take from that feeling you can take. the approach of somebody needs to do. something about this mhm or you can take.

the approach I need to do something. about this all right so what can I do. well I can't open up a grocery store. that's not my okay can I grow a garden. can I is there any sort of animals that. I can. raise um I started to get really really. interested in the in the homesteading. movement um you know right around Co and. we had always had a garden before we'd. had chickens before and stuff like that. but I started looking at that from the. perspective of how much could I.

grow um how much I mean could I could I. really take care of let's say a. significant amount of the needs for my. family and potentially my my friends and. whatnot if we just learned more about. gardening raising some really simple. livestock preserving food and here's. what I found it was therapeutic as hell. um I'm now the main guy that loves to. Garden in the house I got my tomato. plants and my zucchini and my you know. cucumbers and everything else we've.

raised you know pigs before I haven't. had the best luck but we've raised pigs. before meat chickens regular chickens um. we know how to raise goats now um it's. what we found is that it was a positive. thing for which we already had some. level of interest in and it provided a. level of. resilience and then it provided a level. of opportunity to learn something new. that was kind of fun and then it. provided a new community of people that. thought the same way about this. particular problem and oh by the way. we're more than happy to help and.

encourage you in it and then by the way. it provided an opportunity to be able to. spend time with your kids working on. something or trying something out that. was that was fun like part of my son's. homeschool you know project this year is. he loves Sriracha all right dude well I. just grew a bunch of red you know. jalapenos they're turning red we're. going to sit there we're going to learn. how to make this um so find things that. you already have like it if something. really concerns you to the point where. hey this keeps you. up and you have some sort of Talent OR.

skill or just interest and how you could. potentially alleviate that start there. start there learn something new learn a. skill get a part of a community uh I. again I found I cannot tell you how much. encouragement and joy I have found in. and I I would not consider myself like a. full-on homesteader or anything like. that. um but just the going to one of these. conferences where there's four or 5,000. people there and everyone's got their.

their kind of things that they this. person keeps bees like we keep bees now. right these person keeps bees and this. person over here they raise they raise. cattle and this person raises pork and. this person has a really great process. for you know maximizing your tomato. yield or something like that and they. can't wait to tell you about it and they. can't wait to help you with it and they. they want you to be successful and. they're honest about um dude I did this. and I totally botched. it that exists for all kinds of things. um so finding those communities of. people with like-minded values and then.

developing those those core strengths. and capabilities that make you more. resilient and don't make you as. dependent upon you know the latest. policy that comes out like okay now I. know that I have a community where I'm. not I don't have to trust the public. school system with my children because. now I feel empowered to be able to do. that. myself um I don't have to trust the. grocery store this supply chain or Co. lockdowns to determine where I'm going. to be able to get food because I know. the Rancher down the road cuz I met him. at the homesteaders.

convention I know how to grow a. significant portion of food and you know. what I can trade and I can do these. other things and you know what I don't. need to be worried about the hospital. telling me I'm not allowed to come in. anymore unless I've got a vaccine. because I'm good friends with the nurse. that I met at the homesteaders. convention or that I met at something. else I did build those sort of. communities that add resilience that. make you less. dependent because the more dependent you. are upon a government which is perfectly. willing to to tell you what to do and. try to micromanage and control your life. for your own good of course the more.

you're dependent on them the less likely. you're going to be in a position to be. able to resist if you really need to and. that doesn't just apply to a government. it applies to an entertainment industry. it applies to a food supply industry it. applies to any number of things and so. when you start looking for how can I. develop a little bit of resilience in. this area chances are you will find. something that you actually enjoy and. then you'll seek out ways to expand and. find other people that are like-minded. and work on it there you go very point.

you. know it it comes down I think in the end. it just it comes down to sacrifice and. you see all these people just like you. said somebody's got to find we got to. find somebody to fix this well if you're. not willing to sacrifice anything for. your own. well-being nobody else is going to give. a about your well-being you know. and it's it's so it could be the. simplest sacrifice is don't shop there. anymore change schools put your kids in.

in a different School homeschool your. kids you know I mean that would be. significant homeschooling versus versus. going to school but it's all these. little things that you can do you know. don't listen to that channel don't watch. that channel don't do this you know just. quit. supporting what doesn't align with her. values well and you don't even got to I. mean if you think about it especially. now there are so many options out there. in so many ways it's not like you're. sacrificing in the sense of like okay.

I'm I'm pissed at Target so I'm not. going to shut you got all kinds of. options or I'm mad at um you know Hulu. and so I'm not going to you know. whatever it is okay replace it with. something else I mean that's how I mean. when you when you talk to people when. they deal with um issues of addiction. and things like that very seldom is is. it exclusively just stop doing that. thing it's you replace something. negative with something positive um you.

replace something that was perverse or. or bad or whatever it is was something. that's actually uplifting and good and. after a while you end up seeing how your. preferences change in favor of the good. the more exposure you have to it the bad. is easy that's one of the biggest that's. one of the biggest allurements of it is. it's easy it's dopamine hits It's. convenience but if you think about most. of the things in your life that actually. give you like real a real sense of like. meaning purpose and. accomplishment they weren't the things. that were the temporary little dopamine.

hits they were something that actually. required a little bit of refinement or. not just motivation but. discipline um to some sacrifice yes some. some like initial sacrifice up front to. where the thing that you were. sacrificing to do this over here all of. a sudden became the thing that you you. truly enjoy and you said something else. that I I I like. about I've gotten a little bit let me. put it this this way I understand the. the colloquial nature or the common.

nature of the wer but I've gotten so. sick of hearing people say like I'm. going to fight for this I'm going to. fight for that I'm GNA what do you mean. going to yeah this fight didn't start. yesterday hos don't tell me what you're. going to fight for you better start. showing me your scars where did you show. up what wounds do you have because of. all you are as the noble spectator. shouting from the sidelines on how. everyone else should be doing it better. dude screw you yeah screw you get in the.

fight there's a lot of that there's a. lot of that and there's a lot of people. listening right. now especially when I'm talking about. this school thing who are listening. they're going yep that's that's me kids. still going to the same school nobody's. watching them nobody's there's no how D. make me feel bad about there's been no. security measures for the next active. shooter but because it happened 2 months. ago we're just going to let this slide. and and let it go until the next time.

and then we all raise a big storm. and do a bunch of yelling and outrage. and make a bunch of social media posts. and then nothing's going to change and. we'll all shut up and go you know what I. mean it's the out the only thing they. want to change as far as the outrage. crowd or or typically what they want to. change is is they want to drastically. infringe on the rights of people that. didn't go in and shoot up any schools. yeah that's their solution this guy went. in and shot up a school what's your. solution hey all of you that didn't go. in and shoot up a school get hand over. your guns yeah because that's going to.

deter this guy and I'm looking at this. going wait a second G Guns have been. around in massive quantities in the. United States for hundreds of years. schools have been. around for for you know over a 100 years. in the United States like the the large. scale public schools that we we see now. on some level it used to be that during. hunting season boys would show up with. their shotguns in the truck on school so. they could immediately get out to the. fields as soon as school was over mhm.

yet we didn't have this problem so. here's my question if we're thinking. about this logically because I I get the. I get the visceral emotional reaction to. the tragedy I understand that but an. emotional reaction that emotion that you. feel that's an invitation to. thought and if you don't actually say I. want to understand this problem well. enough to be able to actually offer. something beneficial to solving it then. you're not trying to solve a problem. you're trying to solve how you feel. about the problem you're trying to get.

rid of your angst this this this makes. me feel bad and I don't want to feel bad. how can I not feel bad I'm G to I'm. going to go on social media and I'm. going to demand that we repeal the. Second Amendment or I'm going to call. everybody that's a gun owner complicit. in the murder even though they had. nothing to do with it and that's going. to make me feel like I'm I'm one of the. good people yeah I'm one of the good. people no you're not the only problem. you wanted to solve was your own angst. because if you really wanted to solve. this problem you would start asking. questions like why are school shootings.

like this a recent phenomenon in. American history gun ownership is not a. recent phenomenon schools are not a. recent phenomenon people taking guns to. schools is not a recent phenomenon if. you if you look at the example I use. with respect to hunting so why is it. different. now and that's the part where I think. there's two things you have to look at. one is how do you address the immediate. problem why don't think you address the. immediate Problem by telling a bunch of. people that did nothing wrong that they. have to give up a essential civil. liberties I think you address it by. having more Security in the places which.

have become vulnerable targets that's. how you address the immediate problem. the larger problem that you have to. address and this is the part that they. really don't want to talk about is how. do we get to a point where there is such. a. disregard for human life that somebody. believes that a perfectly legitimate way. to express their frustration with the. world is to shoot the most innocent. Within our. society well I don't know maybe we're. going to have to start to ask some real.

questions about this whole concept of. there being no such thing as objective. truth or objective. morality I on some level what did we. expect you teach kids that if it feels. good do it that there's nothing wrong. with them their just self-esteem needs. to. improve that um when something does go. wrong it's everybody else's fault or. it's society's fault at large that. they're part of either an oppressed or. aess Professor class by virtue of you. know their birth they don't have any say.

or control over it there is no objective. morality there is no objective truth and. it's all just about self-actualization. what's what's the most truest version of. you that you can get to and anything. standing in the way of that is bad even. though we don't have any mechanism to. declare something objectively bad but. that's bad it stands in the way of you. being you what happens if one day you. being you is manifesting that fr ation. and an act of violence against somebody. else well then those same people that.

pedal that philosophy to that kid since. they were little show up and say how. could you do. this what do you mean how could they do. it there's no good and evil there's. preference there's self-actualization. there's the truest form of. me I never thought of. that you you don't get to raise a. society of children that have repeatedly. heard from an early age that everything. is everybody else's fault and there's no. such thing as good or evil it's just. about perspective and narrative and then.

be surprised when it manifests itself in. something truly horrible and now all of. a sudden you don't have a way to. categorize it or the only way you can. categorize is you have to borrow from. the very morality that you said didn't. exist unless we're willing to address. that at a fundamental level then yeah. we're going to we're end up in a really. horrible situation where we need more. armed security at schools I don't want. that to be the perpetual existence of. our educational. system but I don't know how it can't.

be if we're going to continue to tell. kids that they're just accidents of. evolution with no ultimate purpose or. meaning in their life and this is all. about the quest for power or the Quest. for pleasure and then be surprised when. they find pleasure or they find power in. ways that we never. anticipated it's a damn good point on. the topic of school shootings. do you have any plans on do you have any. ideas on how to fix this now I think.

there's two ways that we there's a. couple different ways we have to address. it so in the realm of politics you. always got to think from this from the. position of what's the ideal and how do. I move people toward it that don't want. to get. there um so obviously the ideal would be. we don't have to worry about this it's. just not something that we have to. conceive of it doesn't. happen again we have to address the the. Phil philosophical side of this um one.

of the biggest problems that we have on. that side too is an absence of fathers. in the home now a lot of dads today are. going to say well that's because the. wife kicked me out or whatnot I I get it. I realize that everything is messed up. with respect to the concept of the. nuclear family right now but if you want. to look at every crime statistic out. there um father's not being in the home. is one of is probably the leading. indicator of whether or not your child. is going to get in trouble uh react. violently in situations end up in jail. Etc ET. Etc so a lot of that is not a that's not.

a political solution we can't solve that. and politicians telling you that we can. solve it by taking people's guns are. either horribly ignorant or lying to you. and regardless of what the reason is. they don't deserve a position of public. trust so all right we have a we have a. vulnerable area the vulnerable area is. the school if you are going to insist on. maintaining the public school system the. way it currently exists where we. essentially assign you a school based. off of your. geography then you're going to have to. have more armed security with respect to.

the schools you're also going to have to. look at other security measures that you. can put in place which make it more. difficult for someone to get into that. environment and commit Mass um um you. know violence so that does come to a. degree with armed security because one. of the things we do know is that people. don't tend to Target places where they. know that there is competent armed. security part of it has to do with. defensive measures uh with respect to. how you check kids within the classroom. how do you make it difficult for someone. to be able to enter a room all of those.

things um nobody's satisfied with those. things because it doesn't stop the guy. from showing up with the gun it just. creates a bunch of countermeasures to. that. MH um the other side of. this and this is something that has. always confused me and and I don't mean. to go off topic but it's somewhat. related. um there's this example that I use when. I try to explain what I think is. problematic about the way that we we run. schooling in this country and and here's. how I usually explain it I said I want.

you to imagine that you know we all we. all recognize education is incredibly. important we all recognize that kids. should all be. educated we also recognize that we want. everybody to have enough food to eat so. let's assume one day a bunch of. politicians got together and said you. know what's the primary way to solve. this food issue is we're going to open. up 10,000 government grocery stores and. we're going to assign you a government. grocery store based off of your address. and when you show up to the government. grocery store you're not actually going. to shop for any of your groceries your. groceries are going to be handed to you.

based off of a local and state board. which will determine the appropriate. caloric intake for your family now if. you don't like what's in your grocery. bag no problem you're just going to go. ahead and Lobby your local board and. your state board and you're going to. attempt to get them to add different. things to your grocery bag and take. other things out but of course when they. make those decisions it won't be for. your family alone they'll be making it. for all of the families within the state. or the jurisdiction not to mention the. fact that none of the employees working. at this government grocery store are. ever going to be rewarded based off of. their own Ingenuity work ethic.

creativity they're just going to be. rewarded based off of seniority the. longer they're there the more they get. paid anybody think that would be a good. way to manage food or grocery stores it. is exactly what we did with public. education you are assigned a public. school based off of your geography and. you're required to go to it unless you. can afford an alternative even though we. tax you for it then when you go to it. you have no say over your curriculum you. have no say over your class structure. you really have no say over a lot of the. extracurriculars it is what it is now if.

you want to change it you go to your. school board or you go to the state and. you Lobby the government to try to. change it while powerful unions and. other institutions which have far more. influence than you compete against you. and then none of the teachers are really. rewarded based off of their creativity. Ingenuity or work ethic they're just. rewarded based off of their. seniority we have created a situation. which I don't think works well for. education and which I also think creates. significant security issues because if. you are someone looking for a vulnerable. Target well a school full of 3,000.

students might actually fit the. bill so how could we reimagine education. in such a way to where we actually get. better educational outcomes and we. create better security situations well. if we had a system and some people don't. like this because the government's still. involved I acknowledge that but if you. had a system where dollars follows. students well now I as the parent I get. to choose if my kid goes to that school. or that school yeah so now when that. school decides we don't think armed.

security is the answer sweet I'm taking. my kid and their money and I'm going to. this school over here where they do. think armed security is important and. just like you said what happens well now. we have Market forces in play and if. you're the sort of school that doesn't. want to take school security seriously. you're going to lose students which. means you're going to lose funding right. now as school screws up they get more. funding in the hopes that that will make. the situation better and if it doesn't. well it's probably because they need. more funding and you see how this. Perpetual Loop works so part of it is.

the is yes if we're going to keep the. school system the way it currently is. we're going to need a lot more armed. security and a lot more defensive. measures and then I would argue we're. also going to need a lot harsher. penalties for people that actually. commit those sorts of acts of. violence on the on the family side and. on the philosophical side we're probably. going to have to stop telling kids that. there is no such thing as objective you. know morality or OB objective truth from. a from a parents side we're going to. have to start telling parents guess what. it is ultimately your responsibility and. I know that's I know that kind of sucks.

and I'm certainly not telling a parent. who had their child shot at a school. where they never anticipated there would. be a problem that they're somehow to. blame that's not what I'm saying I'm. saying that if you have this as a. concern and you're not doing anything. about it I'm going to start to ask why. is that and if it's like because I feel. powerless well if you feel powerless. with your kid at that school send them. to a different one well I can't afford. to okay on some level I'm willing to. work with you to figure this out but you. got to sacrifice something you've got to. figure out how big of a concern is this.

for you and then secondly if we can. actually get with a a model where now. parents have real power because right. now parents should parents solution to. security issues or any issue at their. school is I'm going to show up to my. school board and I'm going to talk at my. school board and then I'm going to try. to elect Schoolboard members or I'm. going to try to elect state legislators. that set the. policy okay th those are those are. worthwhile endeavors. but imagine the moment a school doesn't. take the security of your child.

seriously you call him up and say just. want you to know little Sally Little. Johnny yeah I'm pulling them out of your. school and I'm sending my kids to a. school that actually put that's an. immediate response that gives you. instant. power and here's the real question that. we should be asking why are so many. people in a position of political power. and influence why are so many people in. a position of bureaucratic influence so. terrified of a prospect of a system that. would give parents that kind of. immediate power with respect to the.

education and safety of their. children something tells me maybe. they're benefiting so much from the. system as it is that they don't want any. changes to that they just want guns. taken away yeah I don't think it really. solves the problem what about um let's. talk about red flag laws yeah I know. you're big on. that I I. think red flag laws in a in a in just. like a popular setting mhm are the.

easiest ones for the other side to argue. for because we we all have this natural. inclination that well yeah of course we. don't want you know violent unstable you. know um people dealing with significant. mental health issues to be able to go. out and buy a gun that all seems. infinitely. reasonable and and on some level it that. is right that narrative is. reasonable but that's not necessarily. what red flag laws do what a red flag. law does is it says that like in.

Virginia uh if you have a concern about. somebody let's say you don't like your. neighbor and you can go to the. magistrate magistrate is not a lawyer. necessarily they've just been appointed. by the court you can go to the. magistrate and say um yeah I think my. neighbor is a real. threat that magistrate then conducts an. investigation now what are the. guidelines or how thorough does that. investigation have to be there not a. whole lot of guidance on that a lot of. it's up to the discretion of the. magistrate and so now um without any.

Court proceeding without um any trial. without any charges level against you an. emergency protection order is now issued. law enforcement can now show up and. confiscate your guns right and then you. have to show up in order to prove why. you deserve your property back and your. rights back this is this is actively. happening in Virginia oh this actually. happening in a lot of states. now the argument they will say is well. look at all these positive use cases. where somebody that you know had a.

mental illness probably shouldn't have a. gun was potentially stopped from hurting. themselves I can acknowledge. that but do you not see how this. couldn't be weaponized by a magistrate. how it couldn't be weaponized by. somebody maybe going through a custody. battle by somebody that's going through. any number of issues where they're just. anti-gun and they don't like their. neighbor and they got a magistrate. that'll go along with it this ends up. being not only a potential infringement. on your second amendment rights from a. federal level or in Virginia it's.

Article 1 Section 13 of our constitution. it's also a potential violation of. Fourth Amendment rights of First. Amendment rights. because how are they going to what what. are they going to use as evidence that. you're a violent person and need to have. your your guns. confiscated because here's the trick if. you're online making threats that you're. going to hurt someone or shoot someone. that's already a violation of law. mhm so now we've created this secondary. category specifically for this issue now. one of the ways that they'll try to use.

to justify it is they'll say well this. is going to prevent suicides you know my. my my friend my brother my whatever is. struggling with ideas of or um suicidal. ideation so I call up the magistrate and. I tell the magistrate my brother just. called me he's threatening to kill. himself I need an emergency protector. over so we can go and take the guns now. if you're the magistrate at that point. the only evidence that you have is that. somebody called up and said that but. what is every ounce of you screaming to. do at that point issue the protective. order you want to help.

somebody okay I've I've definitely been. on the phone with friends that were. right there on the The Edge. before had I got off the phone with them. and then called up a magistrate and said. issuing a protective order here's what. would have happened law enforcement. would have showed up they would have. searched the house and they would have. found all of the guns they could. find that doesn't mean they found all. the guns just mean they found all the. guns they could find by the way they. left all the pills they left the knives.

they left the Rope they left the the. hose that you could attach to an exhaust. they left all the other mechanisms that. somebody could potentially do harm to. themselves but now my friend who called. me up for help maybe because he was. dealing with stuff that that he went. through. overseas the next thing he knows is law. enforcement came over to confiscate his. property and leave and he didn't get any. say in the matter have you left him in a. better mental state as result of. that so if you put all the emphasis on. well we passed a law which says the.

police have to get the guns so clearly. that's going to be executed flawlessly. right no you hope it will I hope it will. but I don't get to make decisions based. off of what I hope will flawlessly. happen I don't get to make decisions. with respect to your civil liberties. based off of me golly G williker really. hoping the government doesn't look for a. way to actually extend its Authority. into ways that might be high. inappropriate I have to first and. foremost. balance what it means to live in a free.

society and there is tradeoffs there. because if we just want everyone to be. safe you don't need red flag laws you. need more prisons put everyone in jail. padded rooms three Hots in a cot a day. you are safe is that the ultimate. objective of a free Society. no so yes I'm always going to give. greater deference to your civil. Liberties now you violate that you. violate law you make you make threats. you engage in violent activities Oh I'll.

be more than happy to absolutely use the. full extent of the law to throw the book. at you because if you're a threat to. innocent people my objective at that. point is I need to protect them I need. to protect this free innocent person. versus the person that is trying to. exploit and hurt them but the problem. that we have with red flag laws is I. think that most of the way that they're. they're written are far too broad and it. invites certain magistrates Commonwealth. attorneys and everything else or. District Attorneys depending on your. state I I think it invites um a.

mechanism which denies you what we would. generally consider the appropriate due. process of law before we can not only. confiscate your property but deny you. your civil liberties I agree with you do. do you think that there is a way to do. it where that that doesn't happen I. think I I if I had more faith. in the fact that the people that are. placing that are passing these.

laws are only passing them because they. can't get something bigger MH. um maybe there would be a world where I. would be more comfortable with that sort. of authority provided it was narrowly. written and that there was far more. protection for due. process but the same people that every. campaign season I see show up and say. nobody wants to take your. guns then sit there as soon as they get.

power and they draft legislation that. would make you a felon for owning a 15. round magazine not even a gun not even. an AR not even an AK you have a 15 round. magazine that came standard with the. Glock you bought you're a felon by the. way you're a felon for each magazine you. own right so now I haven't just taken. your gun rights I haven't just made you. a felon I haven't just potentially put. you in jail and put a bunch of fines on. you you know what you also lose in Most. states when you become a felon your. voting.

rights good point makes me wonder. sometimes if there isn't an additional. motivation with respect to care people. carrying legislation that would take. away the voting rights of tens of. thousands of people in Virginia alone. that they know probably don't vote for. them that's a damn good point have not. thought of. that wow. this is why one of the most important. jobs I have in the general assembly is I.

sit on subcommittee one in public safety. I'm the chairman of subcommittee 1. that's where all of the gun legislation. comes and I can tell you that is a. heartbreaking committee to sit. on because you have to listen to some of. the most horrible stories of people that. were. victimized and it is you feel an. incredible amount of empathy for them. and you want to help solve that that. problem the issue is is that there's. always some politicians sitting next to.

them that have convinced them that their. little girl or the little boy or the. person they love would still be alive if. only we had this assault weapons ban if. only we had this micro stamping if only. we confiscated this and you're sitting. there looking at him going you are lying. to this grieving. parent and then you got to sit through. it you got to make the best arguments. you can and then you have to do what you. know is the fundamentally right thing to. do which is to protect civil liberties.

and then I walk over to my other. committee on courts of justice and. that's where we work to make sure that. the people that perpetuate these sorts. of crimes go to jail for a long time or. never come out what's fascinating is the. same politician that will be sitting. next to that grieving parent telling. them that if only we had this assault. weapons ban their child would still be. alive is some of the same people that. will go into the courts of Justice. committee. and drop legislation to try to get the. sort of people that killed their child.

out on parole. earlier another good point and that is. the part where you will sit there with. just absolute. Fury that the solution that they sold to. this one. parent was to deny people that did. nothing wrong their civil liberties not. to mention the fact that their ability. to protect themselves we have over of a. million use cases in the United States. every year of someone using a farm to. protect them mes those are victims that. never were because they had a firearm. they're victims that would become.

victims if that politician had their way. they would especially become victims. because that same politician goes into a. separate committee and drops a bill to. lets the sort of people that engage in. violent crimes out of jail. early that sort of. hypocrisy that cognitive dissonance is. just infuriating I mean it'd be nice if. they just enforced the laws that they. had passed already oh well but the laws. we have already are are uh racist and. part of a horrible patriarchal system. which is designed to oppress people.

along the same lines it would be nice if. the FBI actually took the information. that was fed to them and did something. about it rather than well I won't even. say rather than everything they're doing. just in addition to. mhm mean time and time again they've. been tipped off about active Shooters. and nothing happens why why is that. I don't. know I I don't know I I don't understand.

I don't understand some of the. priorities um especially on our federal. law enforcement. side I do not understand but but I when. I sit there and I and I watch the sort. of things that are being taught or the. sort of courses that our federal law. enforcement officers are being required. to go through and now increasingly are. our men and women in the. military I'm looking at going these are. the most bizarre priorities I can. imagine. um yeah let's take a quick.

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you are part of the Virginia House of. delegates 30th District you are on the. Science and Technology committee the. militia committee the police and Public. Safety Committee and the finance. committee correct so they they changed. around a little bit so now I'm on courts. of Justice Public Safety finance and. education okay interesting. I'm a little embarrassed to say this but. if I don't know it then I know that. there are a ton of people who don't know.

it either so I'm going to uh set my ego. aside what is the Virginia House of. delegates my Civics I'm a little rusty. on no no most I think Most states have. like a a House of Representatives or an. assembly or general assembly or. something like that and so they call. their representatives representative or. assemblymen um in Virginia we have the. house of delegates which the best way to. think of it is it's like the House of. Representatives on the federal side it's. just for Virginia so I'm a state.

representative in the lower house we. have a senate and a house of delegates. kind of a cool little plug for uh the. the house of delegates or the Virginia. General Assembly as a whole is actually. the largest continuing uh continuously. operating legislative body in the. Western Hemisphere we're over 400 years. old um and we recently got to celebrate. our 400th uh anniversary at the old. capital in. Jamestown and I got to tell you as a. history guy um I represent James.

Madison's. District so wow I got to go down there. representing James Madison's District at. the 400th anniversary of the largest or. the longest continuously serving. legislative body in the Western. Hemisphere and it was awesome that's. cool man it was awesome yeah the first. time I walked into the the uh the house. floor um I got there a little bit early. because military right we're always 15. minut and I remember they they walked me. in and.

um and the the the gentleman that was. showing me where to go he's like I'm. going to go see if anybody else is here. and so we left and and for a couple. minutes there um it was just me sitting. on the the floor of the Virginia House. of delegates and I remember looking. around at the portraits of the speakers. and and everything else and you're. thinking about all of the decisions that. have been made within this legislative. body from. I mean Independence too um and I. remember thinking there's got to be some.

mistake that I'm I'm the guy standing. here right now but yeah so that's that's. what it is so what is it what is it you. guys do break it down for me a little. bit us lesson we are so we operate uh. very similarly to how Congress operates. um you know the house submits bills the. Senate submits bills we go through a by. um you know that whole leg legislative. process goes to the governor sign and. then if Governor signs it it's law um. but a couple of things that are unique.

about most state legislatures and and. Virginia certainly Falls in this. category we have what's called a citizen. legislature and that means we're not. fulltime like in the capital legislating. all the time which is wonderful because. the last thing you want is politicians. sitting around dreaming up new laws um. we go down for in even years we're there. for 60 days in 60 days we will go. through 2,000. bills um and we'll also set up our.

biannual. budget and it looks kind of like how you. see it we get on the floor we debate. with one another bills go to the. Committees we we do all that process uh. you know house bills go to the senate. senate bills go to the house um and then. we go through that process and then. signing but um we're paid uh a little. under $188,000 a year to be a delegate. it's not supposed to be you know enough. money to live on. and then we have our office budget to. take care of a staff it's usually enough. to to fund one full-time staffer um the.

Virginia legis the house of delegates is. 100 members which which means each of us. represent 80,000 people give or take. which is bigger than most States um and. but once we get done with our 60-day. session in even years our 45 day session. in odd years we go right back to our. district that's where we live that's. where we work we have our regular jobs. um. I think it's I think on the whole it's. much more in line with with what this.

country was designed to be which is to. say that we have a very limited. constitutionally oriented limited. government uh that is really focused on. go do the business of the people and. then get back to real. life um so that's that's what we do in. the legislature. interesting you're on the education. committee I am. let's get into some of that before we do. I just got a question from a patron real. quick Patron I have a subscription.

account the patrons that's what enables. me to be here and what enables you to be. here here it is I have three girls and a. fourth child on the. way what in your opinion are the most. important things men need to get right. as fathers and is fathering daughters. different than fathering boys so I think. the mo the most important thing I I. always go back to is um the faith. structure that you you build your your. family around uh because it is it's the. beginning of your whole.

worldview um the other thing I will say. with with fathers I think the the most. important thing is that you do. represent you are supposed to represent. an element of leadership and stability. within that family unit you're supposed. to be the calm and the storm not the. storm. um let me put it a little bit. differently for them you're the Cal in. the storm for anyone that would hurt. them you're the. storm and when it comes to raising Sons. and Daughters yeah it's different um.

with your son you're you're training. your. replacement uh you're training someone. that is going to be a part of a legacy. that maybe it's started before you maybe. you're the one that's starting it but. they're going to have to take that over. and they're going to have to build it up. and preserve it and pass it on for their. son to do the same thing they're going. to have to protect provide they're going. to have to fill those roles um for your. daughters. a lot of it is about establishing a a. very high level of trust where I don't.

care what any I don't care what any girl. says they all want their dad to be. protective um they don't want him to be. tyrannical but they want him to be. protective and and I will tell you you. will look back my oldest daughter is 20. I have a 17-year-old son and a. 15-year-old daughter and this last year. for well this year for Father's Day I. said I I want one thing from you I want. each of you to write me a letter I want. want you to tell me something that we. did together uh that was meaningful to.

you and I want you to tell me something. that you wish I would change uh to be a. better. father and what was amazing about. that was the little things that made the. meaning I mean you you'd think it'd be. some big trip we went on or that time we. all went to Disneyland or something. nah no was something little it was. always something little give me an. example um teaching my younger daughter.

how to. shoot um what did she want to learn how. to do she. says um she wants me to teach her how to. throw a punch necks. but but um it it it was it is things. like that when you are present and and I. would think for for men one of the. things that we do this is one of the. traps that we fall into with raising. kids we get so focused on the protection. and the provision because that's how. we're demonstrating. love and that's fair those things are.

demonstration of Love um but you can't. expect your little kids to know that you. have to verbalize it um and sometimes. one of the most powerful things that you. can do um is when they are asking for. your attention on something where you're. busy you can't always do it you can't. always break away but every once in a. while do it every once in a while set it. down and go drink some fake tea right. every once set it down and go wrestle.

with with your little. boy um and sometimes they'll say well. you know do they even remember it does. your three-year-old ever remember when. they're. 16 that you sat there and had tea with. them no no but the 5-year-old version of. them does remember what you did when. they were. three and then the 5-year-old bid builds. additional bonds and then the. 10-year-old version of them remembers. what you did when they were five and by.

the time they get to a. teenager it is muscle. memory. uh you love them you protect them and. they know. it dang it man and um so when you have. to discipline. them they don't question why you're. doing it they know it's because you love. them when you have to set down rules. it's not because you're a tyrant it's. not because you say so it's because you.

want something so wonderful and perfect. for them and you are doing everything. you can to help them achieve it and at. the Times where you have to say no or. butress by all the times that you were. there for them when they needed you they. will trust your judgment when you really. really want them to wow so that's what. that's what I'd say that's amazing you. must be one hell of a dad I hope so but. I F like all man I focus a lot on all. the things I did wrong H but I will say.

um when I opened those letters from my. kids I don't know who was cutting onions. next to me or doing something else but. um yeah that's being able to M like I. said I I still I still see all the. things that I should have done better. could have done better um need to do. better tomorrow um but man. having a good relationship with your. kids where where they will where they. will trust you especially when they want. to do something and you say I just don't.

think it's I don't think it's right and. they will say. okay one other thing I got to. add if you're going to teach your kids. that there is such a thing as right and. wrong in this world and it's not right. or wrong because you say it's right or. wrong because you know God says or it's. right or wrong because it's just right. or wrong. um there's going to be a time where they. catch you being. wrong and um in that moment and this.

happened to me I vividly remember it um. my daughter she was about 13 14 at the. time but I I remember coming home from. work I was very upset my two youngest. kids had destroyed the. kitchen and soon as I walked through. that corner and I saw the kitchen. destroyed I I. was I was back in the military man you. do this you do that you get to your room. I don't know Daddy Dad no get to your. room I don't want to hear it I don't. want to hear go now right I'm in charge.

I told you what to do go do. it oldest daughter who is again 13 14 at. the time comes in knocks on my door and. says Daddy can I talk to you for a. second yes sweetheart go ahead she' let. me cool. down she goes Daddy I don't think you. handled that very. well now. every ounce of my male ego wanted to be. like oh oh well well please dispel some.

of your young teenage wisdom on me on. it and I was like you know what she. knocked on my door she is being very. respectful let's hear her. out and she goes Daddy the reason why. Ally and Luke were down there in the. kitchen is because they got permission. from Mommy to make you. something and they were really really. proud of being able to make this for you. when you got. home and now they're too scared to say.

anything because of how upset you are oh. man ah and I looked at my daughter and I. said. um. sweetheart you're. right I am. wrong I did not handle that well and I. apologize to you and I'm going to go. apologize to. them and I really appreciate that the. fact that you had the courage to come. and tell me so thank. you the reason why that part is so.

important is because what a lot of. parents do is they don't teach their. kids what to believe or why to believe. it or that there is objective right and. wrong what they teach their kids is an. incentive structure for. obedience do what I say because you'll. get in trouble if you don't do what I. say because I'll reward you if you do it. that might work out fine when you're the. authority figure what happens when it's. the college professor what happens when.

it's the politician what happens when. it's the boss what happens when it's. someone that doesn't have your best. interest of your child in mind or. doesn't share your worldview on. anything well they're going to obey. because that's what they've been. taught and so one of the most powerful. episodes you might be able to ever have. with your child is the point where they. catch you on on being wrong because we. all do it. and actually rewarding them for Having. the courage to stand up to. Authority because ultimately right and. wrong doesn't flow from.

us and so those are just a couple things. that I I would say um served me. well we definitely just impacted me. there no doubt about that thank you for. sharing. that let's push education let's push it. to the to the right a little bit let's. get into. fatherless. Society you talk extensively on this how.

do how much of society is. fatherless ladies and gentlemen pardon. me for the interruption this next. segment is all about fatherlessness in. the United States and what a problem it. has become since the interview some. statistics more updated statistics have. developed and Nick contacted me and. asked me to give the most updated. statistics this is from fathers.com here.

we go an estimated. 24.7 million children that's 33% live. absent of their biological fathers here. in the US that's from the US Census. Bureau. 57.6% of black children. 31.2% of Hispanic children and. 20.7% of white children are living. absent of their biological father that. source is from family structure and. children's living arrangements and.

lastly more than 20 million children in. this country live in a home without the. physical presence of a father Millions. more have dads who are physically. present but emotionally absent if it. were classified as a disease. fatherlessness would be an epidemic. worthy of attention is a National. Emergency that's how bad this is let's. get back to the. show so it depends on the overall.

demographics um we we are probably. approaching. uh I think we're. approaching close to. 50% 50% probably it's actually it's. probably closer to it's probably closer. to 40 at this point overall because I. want to say the last time I looked at it. um. within um in America within the black. population I think it's. 73% within Hispanic I believe it's over.

50 with Caucasian I believe it's. somewhere around the. mid-30s and then with Asian I believe. it's under. 10% um so when you add all that up. together I I think it's somewhere around. like we're we're around that 40. percentile Mark but don't quote me on. that well I think we could definitely. bump it up to 50% because one thing that. don't not hearing in those St statistics. are the fathers who and mothers who just.

passed the phone yeah to raise their kid. and there's a lot of that yeah yeah and. the um and again whenever whenever you. break that down by demographics people. get mad at you and I'm like I I don't I. don't know what to tell you like this is. this is what we see this is what the. numbers say the guy that's probably done. some of the most extensive work on this. is Thomas soul and um I I have this joke. where I say Thomas soul is a national. treasur and he's not allowed to die. because the the amount of work that he. has done on economic and social policy.

and and the way that he explains complex. principles to a a very broad audience is. incredible plus he's a total smartass. he's really really fun to listen to Fun. to read I think um but Thomas Soul. started working on on all of this with. respect to the breakdown and part of. what he was building on was work that. Patrick moan had done. um and yeah there there's a there's a. genuine crisis in this country with. respect to fathers now some of those.

fathers want to be involved and they're. legally not permitted to because custody. is usually awarded to the mother 80% of. the time hold on why are people getting. mad at you for talking about factual. statistics because that's racist it's. RAC yeah it's racist okay yeah because. the the implication is as though you're. saying that this this like no I'm I'm. not making any for instance uh it's a. statistic it's a factual stat I mean you. can back this up correct yeah it's a. factual statistic yeah how is that.

racist because it doesn't convey The. Narrative that's appropriate or because. I don't immediately jump to the. conclusion that the reason why that. exists is because our government has. been our government is set up in. fundamentally systematically racist ways. designed to destroy certain families. based off of their skin color now I will. say this I do believe when you look at a. lot of the the programs that we have put. in place we've incentivized divorce and. we have incentivized taking the kids.

we've incentivized breaking apart. families you get paid to break apart the. family you don't get paid to start a. family I mean you could argue child tax. credits or things like that but we have. an era where men are growing up with the. full knowledge that if they get married. and they have kids and she decides to. leave and take the kids the government. will pay her to do that plus the. government will require you to pay pay. her to do that and so that has a. disincentivizing component on marriage. this is one of the issues that I always.

get into whenever we look at public. policy people look at P public policy. and what they want to uh they want to. look at is what are the intentions. behind the policy here's the problem the. problem is is let's for instance it is. very very hard for a single mother I. know I was raised by a single. mother okay well how do we how do we. help single mothers well let's add. additional funding uh that will assist a. single mother with respect to raising. the kids okay makes. sense but what have you what have you. just done at that point you've actually.

incentivized single motherhood now you. can say well nobody would choose that. nobody. would because that's certainly not. true we absolutely know that people get. pregnant and part of the reasons why. they do it is because obviously the. activities surrounding pregnancy are. usually a lot of fun and then the other. component is there's income that comes. based off of having that. child and if you're having the child out.

of wedlock you get paid by the. government if you're having child within. wedlock you don't get paid by the. government so how does that incentive. structure work now you can say all day. long I don't think most people would. choose that option I agree I absolutely. agree that most people will not choose. that option but some people will now. what happens when all of a sudden you've. chosen that option and now you're. raising a kid without any positive male. role model in the home or at least not a. father in the home well that has a whole.

host of other societal consequences that. generally go with it now are there kids. that completely overcome it and do very. well absolutely do I still put a great. deal of emphasis on the respons personal. responsibility of the individual to make. decisions. yes but should the government be. incentivizing destructive Behavior no of. course people always look back you well. what's your. solution well I I don't know but last. time I checked we didn't always live in. a country where we had this many outof.

wedlock. births and my solution is not walk him. into a clinic and get rid of the. kid my solution is what if we once again. recognize that the value of a strong. nuclear. family is beneficial not only for moral. reasons but for very practical. reasons like they they treat these. things like they're just arbitrary. social constructs we came up with. yesterday no there's there's reasons why. centuries of humanity has said that when. you have a situation where you have a.

stable home with a mother and a father. fulfilling different but equally. important. roles it's the best basis for raising a. family and creating future citizens for. which society will be built up. of but then whenever we find any sort of. problem with the system as it is and we. try to interject with the government. program we create perverse. incentives I I know what it's like I. know what it's like to be poor I know. what it is like to have my heat turned.

off in the winter because I couldn't pay. the bill I don't know what it is to feel. like a complete failure as a man and a. husband the difference was is that when. I had to get help when a friend or a. family member had to come in and help me. I felt a sense of gratitude obligation. and a need to. reciprocate when the government comes in. and just hands somebody a check you're. completely you are completely. disconnected from the person that. actually had to sacrifice in order to. help you and now the politician which. sacrificed nothing because all they were. in charge of is taking from this person.

and giving to this. person they have every incentive to keep. you in a Perpetual state of. dependence and that's my problem with. with so much of this is the government. government policy has contributed to a. to destruction of the family in this. country I absolutely believe that the. way that we get out of that is that. we're going to have to start asking our. question of what what gives a marriage. significance and I'll tell you this much. I don't think it's a marriage. certificate from the. state that might be an element of. significance maybe some people value.

that at a at a certain degree more than. other people but I I will tell you right. now I got married at. 19 and my wife and I sat down and we. talked very specifically about what we. what we. believed about the world about our roles. as husband and wife about what our. future roles would be as mother and. father what our responsib abilities were. what our expectations. were and we did all of that because both. of us came from divorced. families we did all of that because we.

made a decision that this ends with. us our kids will not know what that was. like and so. again sometimes sometimes my male. audience gets mad at me because they. feel like I am. disregarding that the the nature of the. field with respect to finding a. spouse it has changed so much from when. it was me 24 years ago and I and I don't. disregard that I know it has gotten so.

much harder because the culture is just. fighting against them every single. chance they get the only thing I can say. to him is dude there's no. alternative you have to be the one to. save. it and you can either say screw that. it's not my job or you can embrace. it but you're going to get a whole lot. more value from embracing it even when. it doesn't work even when you have to go. through things that you shouldn't have. had to go through you know that you know. that cycle they always talk about strong. men create good times good times create.

weak men weak men create bad times bad. times create strong men bad times don't. create strong. men strong men are once again. appreciated for what they bring to. society in bad. times but you choose to be that if. you're waiting around for bad times to. make strong men that doesn't happen. strong men are made by other strong men. strong men flourish when Society. recognizes that the value that they. bring the stability the leadership when. they recognize that embrace it and.

appreciate it for what it is that's what. creates the good. times but young men I don't know I don't. know what to tell you if you want to end. this crisis with respect to young men. growing up with no Act of. Father you've got to be the guy you've. got to be the guy and you might have to. be the guy for more people than just. your son. mhm have you taken more people than your. son so I yeah I used to teach at a homes. School. Co-op and then um one of the things that.

we do with our with our podcast we. actually have a separate uh chat and so. um I have a lot of dads that will come. in or I have a lot of young men that. will come in and they will ask for. advice and I try to spend time doing. that we try to I I will craft various. videos um based off of advice I'm. getting asked for so I can put it out to. a broader audience um. so yeah I'm I try to look for. opportunities where um you know when. it's.

needed so there's so many kids growing. up without a father today yeah tons of. them you know and and like I said and. there's a lot of kids who do have a. father that's not present today I see. that I see that everywhere I go I see it. in Home Depot I see it in it it it. anywhere I go you know you see these. teens REI go there a lot. um and on one hand I'm I'm I'm happy to. see teenagers a few teenagers still.

going out and getting jobs y but you see. the confidence level in a lot of these. kids and it's it's at the floor yeah you. know they can't look you in the eye they. can't even articulate what they're. trying to. say they can't show you where the. section is you're looking for or the. item that you're trying to find they. they can't do it and. so you who just said that you grew up. without a father well I don't want to. say that I did I did still have my. father in my life you did I did I did.

Sol my father in my life I I I always. try to be careful about this cuz when I. say like I spent the school years with. my mom and I spent the Summers with my. dad I didn't get the amount of time I. wanted with my dad but the time I got he. really did try to make it. meaningful where did you feel that void. and how can a kid today I mean if if. we're talking 50% Plus mhm of the. population is fatherless yeah where are. they going to find the attributes to. become a good father for me um my my.

grandfather was was heavily influential. uh on Me growing up because he lived my. my dad's dad both both my grandparents. um lived in Northern California where I. would go to that's been the school years. and so I spent a lot of time with with. my grandparents um and I got to spend a. lot of time with my uh paternal. grandfather my dad's dad um that was. that was beneficial um coaches I. honestly think um I have a good friend. of mine where you know every once in a.

while like are you picking up another. sport to coach and I would say he loves. sports um but he also recognizes that. what breaks his heart is when he he is. there and like his son plays and and. whatnot and uh it always broke his heart. the number. of number of boys that would be on his. team that they only other dads on game. day you know if. that um there's another uh there's. another group.

um my my actually my future son-in-law. my oldest daughter's got engaged great. guy uh he's a counselor and a big dude. too like. 65 and. um you know we have these different. groups they've triy to set up um things. on how to teach men to be men young. gentlemen like those these like young. gentlemen's club. and they do everything from teaching. them how to like properly wear a suit. handshake look a man in the eye and then. they'll bring in speakers to talk about.

you know everything from you know being. in the military in combat running a. business uh you know maybe playing. sports or what up but trying to convey. certain ideas of what is the what is the. proper what does good masculinity look. like um and trying to provide some sort. of model for for kids that haven't. haven't seen it. yeah you talked. about something about homeschooling yeah. love to talk about that.

um I got a 2-year-old almost a. 2-year-old and actually by the time this. comes out he will be two got another one. on the. way big topic of discussion between me. and my life is my wife is where are we. going to put these kids in school yeah. Public School. seems to be out of the question um. private school we're on the fence. about we live in a place where I see.

it's very family oriented here and I see. more and more and more kids being yanked. out of the public school system and. becoming homeschooled yeah you know. and I see I see positives and and. negatives to that I was homeschooled a. little bit growing up um netives. obviously being. socialization you. know we've thought a lot about this I'm. going to run this by I'm just curious.

what you what you think of this we've. come up with a plan and I don't know if. this is going to work because I'm we're. very I'm an introvert my wife's an. introvert we don't have a. big community pool to draw from here but. one thing that I would like to do and uh. is and I think there this takes care of. the socialization aspect is we've. thought. about. recruiting like-minded individuals.

because we're not happy about what's. going on in the schools either now I do. hear that some people say this this. stuff is going on in the school some. people say it's not going on in the. school I don't have a kid in school I. don't really want to find out I see more. that are concerned about the public. school than not. so and it sounds like I haven't heard it. here in Tennessee but I have a lot of. friends in Florida this has bled into. the private schools as well. um and there's a lot of things I just.

don't want my. kid I don't want him to see it Y and so. what we thought is if we could get a. group of like-minded. parents this isn't a business this isn't. anything like that and we invest in a. piece of land mhm put it into a truck. everybody has equal ownership or I mean. you could even break the ownership up. sure you know build a Schoolhouse on it.

this is not it's not a school it's not. registered it's not it is a a. fac that. you may put that that just happens to do. homeschooling yeah you know so you put. it in a trust it becomes it becomes a. real estate investment you know for the. people that are that are that are. involved D in the trust and then you. hire a teacher I mean a lot of these. teachers don't want to be teaching this. garbage anyways they want out hire a.

teacher what's that going to cost I mean. about $50,000 a year you know to hire. the teacher they teach the Core. Curriculum then everybody you know who. has a child in the school for us it. would probably all have to be kids. around the same age maybe maybe 10 kids. let's say you know and then each parent. comes in and they teaches their to teach. their expertise whether that's Plumbing. whether that's Finance whether that's. homesteading auto mechanics whatever and.

by the time it's done I mean your kid is. going to be so well-rounded in all these. different aspects of life that that. schools don't teach at all I mean look. at finances now it's a oh God it's a. disas it always has been a disaster now. it's just worse yeah. and and then when it's over the real the. piece of Real Estate gets. sold everybody gets their dispersion of. money and uh and hopefully I mean real.

estate always goes up it's they're going. to make money what do you think of that. they're not making any more land yeah um. I think it sounds like a great idea um. here's here's what I'll say like I. always try to be careful um when I talk. about educational options because I. realize that there are parents in. situations where it's like look we are. fighting to keep it you know make ends. meat we take one income out of the the. pot and we're in a lot of trouble. MH so my biggest problem has always been. this idea that we're supposed to then. again the government's coming in and.

telling everybody this is the ideal way. to educate children well you're doing a. bang up job. um I I think that most most Services. because that's what education is it's a. service work better when the people that. are using the service have options in. accordance with what the objectives are. so for instance um with a student you. kind of have two customers you have the.

child and you have the parents the. child's the one that's getting the. benefit of of the service but the. parents have a Guardianship and a. responsibility over that child to make. sure that the service that they are. getting is actually equipping. them we don't see that anymore right. anymore it's like no no it's the. government's job to educate my kid. that's why I pay taxes nope it's yours. and whether you're rich or whether. you're poor I'm sorry it the. responsibility doesn't go away it's. still yours now if you choose to team. with the public school system in order. to do that you may have to right may be.

the only thing that you can afford what. I would say is is please don't then say. well this is it now I would tell you. this I think socialization is actually. the worst reason to send your children. to public school if you're sending your. child to public school because they have. a lot of resources with respect to you. know um I don't a computer lab or a. music lab or whatever it is or or uh. Sports and stuff like that that you. can't replicate somewhere else that you. think is important totally understand.

maybe they have teachers at that school. that you really really like totally get. it um whenever my wife always got asked. the question about socialization she. would always say she'd always look at. someone goes have you ever had a. puppy yeah did you train and socialize. your puppy by keeping it exclusively. with other puppies. no yeah she goes the public school model. does not replicate real. life it is the only portion it's the.

only part of your life that you will. ever be running into locations based. exclusively off of your age group and. said these are now your. peers in in that class of 25 kids you. have some kids that are reading this. percentile sometimes that are reading. this you have some with maybe with. mental health issues you have some with. learning disabilities you have all this. stuff in this one class those are your. appear why well because agewise and. geographically they live closest to the. building that doesn't make sense well. what are their objectives for Education.

well it doesn't matter because the. state's already decided that these are. the objectives for. education so here's all I would say just. remember public school and I don't mean. this to sound like nefarious or mean. it's just it's a practical reality. public school was not made with your. child in mind public school was made. with the mass production of Education in. mind so you're going to get a mass. produced. product when it comes to okay so what's. the alternative to that I mean you you. can dream up a thousand different ones.

you just you just came up with or you. guys have just been talking about one. that makes an incredible amount of sense. um we did one that was a combination of. homeschool and then also a co-op so our. kids one day a week would go and they. would you know go to certain classes. especially on subjects that we didn't. feel competent to train them on I mean. you throw an Algebra 2 book at me and. that might as well be ayp hieroglyphics. right like I don't I don't know stop. putting letters in my math right. um but here's here's what I would here's.

what I would say. um I I think it's actually it can be a. very intimidating thing for parents but. remember that it's an intimidating thing. in part because there's a whole industry. which profits and benefits from you. believing that this is completely beyond. your capability it isn't people have. been educated for centuries without the. current Public School model that we have. within the United States here's the. other thing to keep in mind I don't care. if it's a public school I don't care if. it's a private school almost all of. those institutions some private schools. are a little bit better about this but.

almost all those institutions are going. to be getting their pool of teachers. from the same place and that's the. university. system if you're going to Penn State you. are almost definitely going to get some. aspect of critical pedagogy as part of. your formal training to become a teacher. one of the big things when there was a. huge battle in Virginia and this this. showed up on the daily wire and. everything else about Louden county and. and some of the other things that were. going on is critical race theory in the. classroom and I got said and I got told.

that I was a racist because I claimed. that yes this is this is infiltrating. into our our school system critical. theory and critical race Theory and. queer Theory know it is show me the. curriculum okay they were asking for the. curriculum within their children's. curriculum I said no no no that's that's. not where you need to look at it here is. all of the various things from the. Virginia Department of Education website. here's all the classes courses various. materials that they give to teachers to. be able to use and what were those.

provided for oh it was provided by all. these outside organizations let's click. on that oh look at this it's teaching. about how to make your child an. anti-racist child based off of things. from emx Ki emx KY believes that there. should be a federal dep Department of. anti-racism which is not elected and has. the power to overrule any local state or. federal law by. Fiat that's. authoritarianism but I could go and I. could point to all of it and like and.

that was what that was what was so. pernicious about the lie I'm teaching. your teachers that this is the way they. need to think about society that this is. the lens through which they should teach. math and history and English and writing. and everything else so yeah it's not in. your kids's curriculum per se which is. to say your kid could come home and say. oh look today we're studying critical. race Theory 101 or queer Theory 101 no. what you did was you took the people. responsible for educating them and you. ran them through all of the.

training I said so let me give you let. me give you an example and I I said this. to my colleagues on the floor I said. let's say we came up with something. similar and we said that now as a. condition of getting your teachers. license in the Commonwealth of Virginia. you have to go through a bunch of. training taught by the Catholic. church right all of your training your. worldview training everything as a. teacher you're going to be taught that. what the Catholic Church says explains. everything that you see with Society now.

go teach. math would you come back here if I came. back here and I said what do you mean. Catholicism in the school show me in. your kids curriculum word no you'd. recognize that what I did in order to. get my agenda through was I made sure. that the teachers had to study it as a. condition of their. ler so the thing to keep in mind is that. almost every professional school out. there is going to. require a certain amount of. credentialing you should probably ask.

some important questions with respect to. where that credentialing came from and. what the actual worldview of the. teachers that are because there's a ton. of good teachers out there ton of good. teachers that sat through all this crap. didn't believe it and then came in and. are doing an excellent job in the. classroom but still understand that. that's the. reality so when you talk about like. various homeschool um things and and you. have people tell you like you don't. would show me your master's degree in. education show me your PhD in education. do I need a PhD in education and teach.

my kid how to read I mean especially. now with with relatively little effort I. can find some of the best programs on. the planet to teach literacy to my kids. which by the way it's it's mainly. phonics. based right so here here's what we did. with our kids I'm not I'm not saying. that everybody should do this this is. just what we did we've been pretty happy. with it when our kids were very little. we ran them through very very the kind. of standard curriculum that you would.

expect they learned about history they. learned about math they learned about. reading they learned about writing why. because you got to learn how to read. right like this is a this is a. non-negotiable this isn't one of this. isn't wood shop versus you know learning. how to code you got to learn how to read. so great we we did what we needed to all. of our kids read you got to learn how to. do basic math two of our kids struggled. with with math whenever our kids. struggle with reading we do we wait. around and call up a school board to see. if we could change the curriculum do we. ask the school no it's like okay we're.

going to try this curriculum now and. we're not going to try the curriculum. three years into realizing there's a. problem we're going to try it now and. then what we did is very early on we. found the things that work and we found. the things that didn't work and now all. of a sudden my son who was very good at. math but reading took him a little bit. longer when was when he was. younger he was able to excel in math. because he wasn't waiting for the rest. of the class to pick up nor was some. rest of the class waiting for him to. pick up in the areas where he needed. more instruction same thing with my. girls my girls excelled in certain areas.

and and they had difficulty in other. areas we could adjust the curriculum as. needed but we didn't have to slow. everything down on the areas that they. were good at we could they could Excel. as far as they could go and then when it. came to socialization did we put them in. situations where it was just their peers. no we put them in constant situations. whether it was you know going to places. events or you know me being involved. with politics or things like that where. they were forced to interact with people. younger than them the same age and older. than them on a regular basis it became.

natural for them they're they're. comfortable talking to adults because. they've always had to talk to adults. they they're comfortable you know. helping out and working with little kids. because they had to do that for each. other with olders and younger siblings. but they also had to do it with other. friends that we had that would come over. and they'd help babysit or whatnot and. so I I feel like that created a a far. more well-rounded soci ization uh uh. experience plus we got that we got that. basic core education that everyone needs. to have well now when they got older we.

started to ask more questions like where. are your interests at so if if all of. your interests are associated with. things that are more let's say English. oriented or history oriented or science. oriented um well then that's where I'm. going to start to that's where we're. going to start to develop you more like. my my oldest daughter loved things. associated with English and the Arts and. and the creative she couldn't stand math. we got her up to a level of math that. every basic person should understand. even though now you can probably pick up.

your phone and figure it out anyway we. we equipped her with the tools that she. could use to get to the math problems. that she needed to do but am I going to. sit there and make her go through an. additional three years of math just so. Isa per can say she got. trigonometry no I'm going to let her. focus in on the things that actually. give her joy and actually feed into the. things that she wants to do as a career. and so now learning isn't. drudgery it's a thing that she's using. to prepare herself not to mention the. fact that education is no longer seen as.

oh yeah that's where I sit down and I. open this book and I do this thing. education is these are the capabilities. I'm developing to make myself socially. and financially. capable and so when you have the freedom. like when you discuss like we're going. to we're not staying at school we're not. saying because we don't want all the. rules and regulations and everyone else. telling us what we got to do. when you have the freedom to adjust and. to. adapt I mean it it opens up.

everything and the one other thing I I. would leave on this for. [Music]. consideration I have really started and. I need to deep I need to dive more into. this so I'm not suggesting that what I'm. about to say is the correct. interpretation it's something I'm trying. to work out of my own. mind I am really starting to wonder if. some of the things that we call. disorders. our only disorders is because we've. pushed kids into a particular model of. education and learning and it doesn't. work for them and if you just adjusted.

it all of a sudden that which is a. disorder would become a. capability yes there are times where. every student needs to be disciplined. sit down be quiet read do your stuff you. got to teach that got to teach. that but if your kids's full of energy. and they work well when they're able to. get out there and learn. kinetically does it make sense to put. them in a classroom for8 hours a day and. then say gosh they're just they're not. you know we need to drug them up that's. what we need here because clearly.

whatever they have isn't conducive to. the educational model that we've. assigned. them what happens when all of a sudden. you tell my son you've got to sit here. for eight hours and do stuff he is going. to he'll do it because discipline says. he has to but he's going to hate it and. he's going to feel. stupid on the other toe by the other. side you say. hey bud your your assignment today. you're interested in welting you're. interested in blacksmithing your your. assignment today you for the next couple. days you're going to build a knife on. the.

forge he will go out there and pound. steel till 1 in the morning and do it. with a smile on his face and feel a. sense of accomplishment and he'll learn. stuff and he'll figure it out and he'll. problem solve and he'll go on YouTube. and he'll look up another video why. because he's. interested. so I I am I'm almost horrified to think. that that one day we're going to find. out that no that kid didn't have. ADD you just stuck that kid in an. Environ learning environment that was.

absolutely not created for him. yeah when as if you would have just. adjusted it over here he would have been. able to flourish do you think there's an. attack on. homeschools yeah well I'll say this the. the educational establishment the. teachers unions um and many within. higher um Academia there there are many. that do not like homeschooling they know. that they can't quite get rid of it and. in part that's because homeschooling is. is oftentimes thought of is a religious. or conservative thing go up to.

Washington State I mean it's hippies. doing unschooling which for me I'm like. hey your kids you know they're getting. an education doesn't have to look the. way I educate my kids that's the amazing. part is that out of all this I'm the. tolerant one I'm not the one saying you. got to send your kids to me for their. education and I will decide what their. curriculum is and I will decide what the. school looks like and I will decide what. the standardized tests look like I'm not. saying that that's the other side the. so-called tolerant. people but no there there are people.

that absolutely believe that you see. this in Europe a lot that education is. the province of the. state um and that is a common belief. within the higher ranks and higher eels. of teachers unions they do not like. homeschooling and they will always point. to bad examples of homeschooling as. evidence for why they should be the ones. in control control while ignoring the. failures within the public school system. as evidence for why they shouldn't be in. control so I I would not be surprised if.

in um if in certain States over time you. start to get a much more authoritarian. push uh for bringing all education under. the realm of the state and a lot of a. and the way they will justify it is that. those parents sinking maybe more of a. religious-based education. or um just not reinforcing General. narratives all of a sudden what will. happen is it will become I mean you. already see this in California and other.

places I think Washington state where. they're saying if your kid wants to it. used to be you shouldn't interfere with. a parent if they want their kid to. transition now it's you shouldn't. interfere with the child if the parents. don't want him to. transition right that's nuts well do you. really think it's a big jump from and oh. by the way you are not qualified MH to. homeschool your children and they have. to come to the the state school the. government run school cuz that's what it. is it's a government run school we call. it public school it's a government run. school you have to come to the. government run School otherwise you.

might teach them dangerous principles. and. ideologies you know that are oppressive. and. toxic I mean it's already happening in. this County you were talking about. co-ops homeschool co-ops we had I know. of a church here in this County Who had. who was they weren't teaching but it was. a co-op yeah and I think they could come. come like two or three times a week well. now with the the influx. of whatever you want to call it the.

influx of people coming into this County. a red County from Blue counties MH now. we're starting to see all these things. change you know. and and I'm like you if you want to send. your kids to public school I don't care. send them to public school that's fine. with me. now they have a person so they are now. targeting these co-ops and they hit one. church because of a septic issue and.

because they run off they run off it's. not on City water it's on or city sewage. it's on septic so what they did is they. tried to shut the school down through a. septic. issue now it's okay you know in church. on Sunday that there's hundreds of. people going in and out of there three. times a day doesn't affect the SE the. septic but the less than a 100 kids that. go there three times a week that's. that's that's a septic issue so they.

tried to shut that down yeah and go. figure where's. this I really try not to go here where's. this person from what community they in. lgbtq plus Community targeting churches. to shut down the co-ops so they can. teach this in schools mhm so that. they can force these kids they don't. even have kids uh you know and happen. right here on this count that's not and. and this is this is another thing where.

um and I'm not suggesting anybody I'm. not suggesting everybody in the lgbtq. community takes the theory that I'm. about to put forward but I will say. this Marx despised the nuclear family he. saw it as an element of. Oppression and and if you look at if you. look at the again critical theory not. critical Theory but critical theory from. which all these other things kind of. derive there there is a general. antithesis to the idea of the nuclear. family having Authority because that.

takes away from the collective. experience that we're all supposed to. have everything is supposed to be. democratized this. is you want to say something to shock a. room full of. students um I was at UVA which is not. exactly known for a Bastion of. conservativism because it's in. Charlottesville Virginia. and I and I was talking about how. democracy is not synonymous with. freedom de Democratic processes may very.

well be a necessary component of a free. Society it is not a sufficient. component but it's amazing to me the. number of people that think they should. be able to impose whatever they want. provided that 50 50% plus one of the. population agrees with them that's not a. free Society that's just the tyranny of. the majority. and and it. is at first it started off as confusing. to me because one minute I would hear. all about tolerance and acceptance and. diversity and be like okay great then.

we're going to allow tolerance and. diversity within our approaches to. education and we're going to allow. different people to try out various. things in order to see which works best. so the best ideas can rise to the top. we're also going to recognize that we. probably need an education system as. diverse is the learning and objectives. learning needs and objectives of the. student body and to shove everybody into. a fairly one-sized fits-all model. probably doesn't make a lot of sense. right. wrong because it's far easier to control.

not just the education but the narrative. and the ideologies that are being taught. if you have a centralized bureaucracy. that you have to. control there there is a there is a. reason why in almost every single every. single thing I can think of leftist. ideology prefers centralization. our philosophy tends to prefer. decentralization because we have a. natural skepticism of the concentration. of power in too few.

hands but this idea that well no no it's. it's fine for the power to be there oh. as long as we all voted on. it I as this is this is an old analogy. but I think it's one that that works and. it explains a. lot you would never shot you would never. eat at a restaurant that was Democratic. never you would never go into into a. restaurant and say okay all right. everyone in the restaurant here's your. menu here's all the various items U. we'll be voting in 15 minutes on what. the appetizer will be and then we'll be.

voting in in 20 minutes on what the main. course will be and then we'll be voting. on dessert we'll be voting on drinks and. all of that well can I just can I just. order what I want no that's. anti-democratic we're all going to vote. on what everybody's going to. have okay but what if I don't I don't. like what what the majority of people. order oh so you don't like democracy. okay and then you get done with your. meal right and you didn't like what you. ordered because you don't really have a. s on it based off your individual choice. and now they all to there now we're. going to vote on who pays for.

it and lo and behold 50% plus one of the. people in the restaurant have decided. that the 50% minus one have to pay for. everybody's meal nobody would go to that. restaurant MH because the free Society. is one that actually values individual. liberty and choice combined with. personal responsibility. so I assume responsibility for educating. my child and I will assume costs. associated with that because I believe. that there's greater benefits associated. with it you may choose something else.

and I will respect your ability to do so. what is happening more and more now are. people are assuming for themselves. control and authority over other. people's lives and now over the lives of. their children because they've decided. that no no no this is the standard this. is what should be taught and anything. that doesn't hit this standard it's. toxic and mean and bad and we need to. get rid of it we and and if that means. we need to rip your child away from your. control as the parent so we can get them. the medical care that we've decided they. needed in the form of surgeries or. puberty blockers or it means that we're.

going to educate we're going to take. over the responsibility for educating. your child because you're not qualified. you're not teaching the things that we. believe they need to be. taught at what. point do we look at that and say that's. not liberal that's. authoritarian in fact it's it's getting. really close to to. totalitarian. mhm and the the part that I find so. frustrating is that for the longest time. my my attitude my genuine attitude has. been I think this is right and I think.

this is wrong but I also believe that. you as a free human being providing. you're not infringing on the rights and. Liberties and property of other people. you can make different decisions you can. make decisions I don't like and and I. won't interfere with your ability to do. that all I ask is that you don't. interfere in mind that that. construct that is what's under attack at. this point. and and you see it in the the reason why. you see so much of it within the. education system is because are they. ever going to convince you of.

this. no so they're going to try to convince. your child of. it I want to move on from this real. quick I had a question we had spoke at. breakfast about sorry we're I'm totally. changing gears no go for it the we had. spoke at breakfast about. some of the stuff you're doing with your. son Y and you're getting ready to jump. into it sounds like wrestling or. jiujitsu with him.

yeah I think that's. awesome how are. you no dad wants to lose in front of his. son mhm when you get involved in that. you're going to lose in front of your. son have you thought about that uh I. have um so was it was interesting at. this point um you know it's all training. MH so there isn't a whole lot of like. full-on you know um bouts.

MH um but yeah we we've been going to uh. you know it's a combination Jiu-Jitsu. boxing uh gym we have at our hometown. great guy um and so far it's been a. great experience everyone in there is. just very dedicated on like hey we all. want to become better at what we're. doing like I was was a little bit. worried we're going to walk in there I. was like is there going to be some Hot. Heads the moment I walk through the door. it's like I'm going to beat his yeah and. it hasn't been everyone's been it's been. a really it's been. great um but yeah at some point I was.

thinking as we go through this and and I. was kind of doing it more you know as as. to stay in shape um I was starting to. feel guilty that hey am I resting on my. Laurels like oh you were a Green Beret. yeah like 12 years ago you were a Green. Beret mean you're doesn't mean you're. you're not very green berety right now. yeah. so that got me back into the gym it got. me back um and now doing this with my. son doing the MMA training and I love it. it it's been fun I feel it oh my gosh.

doing this at 43 is not doing this at at. 25 I've learned that um but yeah I've. had to think about all right what what. if. we what's that going to be like and I. don't know but I will tell you this in. the. meantime it motivates me to work harder. than I would have if he wasn't there how. bet it does yeah yeah you know I was. thinking about that on the drive-in I. was like you. know that would be tough to lose in.

front of your son yeah yeah but um I. guess the thing. I the thing I I I don't. want it would be. worse if my fear of of losing prevented. me of having that experience with him. and going through it and then I would. lose the opportunity to teach him. that sometimes you lose and then what. you do is you get back up and you go. right back in there and you do it again.

yeah. so yeah interesting. yeah as long as I convince him that he. can never kick my ass we'll be all. right let's talk about let's talk about. Central. Banking and the digital. currency well Central Banking I think. probably um and and specifically the. Federal Reserve um it is probably if if.

we reach a point where we talk about you. know we we've talking about National. divorce and things like that if if we. reach a point where you're actually. looking at like significant civil unrest. I'm not talking about a summer where you. know everybody is writing well the. weather's good I'm talking about like. sustained. problems I think that will most likely. come from a significant financial. crisis and the kind that are are really.

a source of like absolute like. Revolution and upheaval um generally. happens when you have a combination of. like a dollar collapse plus like a. sovereign debt crisis and now the. government can't afford to pay the cops. or the military to enforce its will. right that's that's what you see in. other places and other countries um. the reason why Central Banking um I. think is has become such a problem uh. with respect to monetary. policy. is we have engaged in inflationary.

monetary policy for a long time and most. people think inflation is just prices. going. uph um Milton Friedman said this best. when he goes in the generalized. inflation that we're like seeing right. now is at all times a a monetary. phenomenon. you know the you if you're let me think. eggs eggs going eggs becoming more. expensive at the store that that's not. necessarily because of inflation if you. had two egg trucks crash on the way to.

the store and all the eggs were. destroyed well okay you just have a. supply and demand issue you have the. same amount of demand you have a. diminished Supply so the price goes up. that's how it. works inflationary monetary policy is. the. most again under handed pervasive and. quiet way that the government screws. over its. citizens because the way this. essentially works is in in conjunction. between the treasury and the Federal.

Reserve there's authorization to. essentially print more money because the. Federal Reserve is going to buy the. debt and then the Federal Reserve. usually sends it over to Banks or other. you know parties that that get that. money. first so the most important thing for. people understand is that what inflation. really is when we're talking about this. large maj economic issue it's when the. government is is printing more fiat. currency paper money right there's. nothing backing our money people still. think like oh is it gold is it silver is.

it no the only thing backing our money. is quote the good faith and and credit. of the United States that's what backs. it the the fact that the United States. will accept it when you pay taxes is. what's backing the. dollar so when they print a bunch of. money and both Republicans and Democrats. have been guilty of this in fact Nixon. is the the one that completely got us. off the gold standard all. altogether when they print a bunch of. money the value of your individual. dollar goes down right so just like if.

if if Supply remains constant but demand. increases prices go up if Supply remains. constant demand goes down prices go down. right and then you inverse propor. inverse effects right. um when the government just prints out a. bunch of print the individual value of. your individual doar drops and that's. why prices go up because you have a. bunch more M you have more money. competing for the same amount of. resources the supply of resources did. not go up just the supply of paper money.

did but the trick is is that when they. print it all out because it takes time. for prices to adjust to supply and. demand within the. marketplace whoever gets that inflated. currency first gets the full value at. the point where it enters the. marketplace it takes time for the Val of. that individual dollar to be. depreciated so if the banks get it first. or investment funds or whatever get to. get the money for get access to it.

first they're getting full value for. things they can buy up resources they. can buy up assets not to but by the time. it gets to you as the paid labor or. whatever it else or the money that you. had in your savings. account that's just been diminished. there was just a there was just a quiet. or a silent tax on all of that money. because the federal government got the. full value of what they were. Printing and so in inflation. inflationary monetary policy is is one. of the worst ways to destroy an economy.

so the question people ask is why do. they get away with it if you do invas if. you do inflation slowly over time at the. same time that your economic. productivity is. increasing you can still maintain a. certain level of economic growth doesn't. mean it's necessarily good some people. argue that well by by adding more units. of dollars more you know money that can. be exchanged and and circulated in the. whole deal um but it it's still. problematic but it's nowhere near as. problematic what we saw during covid was.

the Federal Reserve print $3 trillion. out of thin air and just throw it it. stuff MH and that caused massive. inflation here's here's the problem. because some people might well that was. a crisis Nick we had to we had to. stabilize things we're working out. ourselves out of it now no we're not. we're we're well $3 trillion in debt and. what people don't understand about like. the United States budget is the amount. of money that is tied up in what they. call non-discretionary spending that's.

things like Medicare Medicaid Social. Security Social Security is run like a. Ponzi scheme and every time I say that I. get told you're going to make old people. mad I'm not trying to hurt anybody's. feelings I'm trying to just explain. what's actually going on the money you. put into Social Security today doesn't. go in an account for you when you retire. the money you put into Social Security. today goes to somebody else that is. collecting on Social Security if you did. that in the private sector you would be. arrested for setting up a Ponzi scheme.

but when the federal government does it. it's okay because they have the legal. right to do crap like this so that's. what's that's what's currently being. done so the question is is okay well how. do you pay for all these entitlement. programs how do you pay for all this. money that you're just sending out how. do you pay for the wars that we fighting. everywhere like how do you pay for it. there's three ways you can tax it but. that pisses people off. you can borrow it but the problem is is. that you get to a point where people. don't want to buy treasuries anymore. because the interest that they're. collecting off of the treasury bonds. that they bought is not keeping up with.

inflation so why would I why would I. invest my money in a Government Bond. that it's actually losing me money not. to mention the fact that even during. good times they don't provide a high. return of investment they're just. safe the Third Way so there we go tax. borrow the Third Way is print. and the problem with printing is that. again that's how you collapse a. currency so people ask like well without. the Central Bank what would happen I. don't think people realize that we.

survived in this country all the way. into the you know early 20th century. without any Central Bank well that's not. true we had the Bank of America early on. but they fought very hard to get rid of. it they actually got rid of the US debt. under Andrew Jackson and got rid of of. the bank and then we actually had an era. of Free banking now do some banks still. fail yeah but the biggest bank Bank. Fellers in American history have not. been before the Federal Reserve it's. been after the Federal. Reserve so the only thing worse than.

that is a federal uh Federal Reserve. controlled digital. currency before before we go into. digital currency let's you're a history. guy let's go back to the Federal Reserve. and the gold back dollar can you can you. just walk us through a snapshot of what. happened and how we got into this mess. in the first ways from from way back so. the early I think I think it was oh gosh. I might get some of my dates wrong it. was 1913 and then later on but you you.

had a whole host of legislation that. happened that kind of fundamentally. changed the way that the American. government did business in the early. 20th century during what they called the. Progressive Era so a lot of this was. under. Wilson but we passed the federal income. tax which was the 16th Amendment to the. Constitution that was the first time in. US history that the Fed ederal. government can tax you directly as an. individual based off of your income now. they had Lincoln had done things before. during the Civil War and whatnot but it. was all very arguably unconstitutional. this made it precedent within the United.

States the other thing that we got was. the Federal Reserve Act which set up the. central bank now there there's a book. called The Creature of Jackal Island. that will talk about how this actually. took place and there was a lot of people. like JP Morgan that were were pushing. for this and it was modeled in in some. respect off of the bank of England and. the idea behind the central bank was is. that this is going to provide stability. to the currency the Federal Reserve. actually has two um like mission. statements essentially one is a stable.

currency and to fight inflation um and. the other is full employment which is. actually kind of a weird thing for the. Federal Reserve to be responsible for. but that was the idea was that this was. going to be the lender of Last Resort it. was going to prevent runs on banks if a. bank did have a run they could give them. a temporary loan to be able to get them. through a crisis point and it was going. to provide overall stability. the reality is is that it it just it it. hasn't done that in comparison to what. it was like before the Federal Reserve. and when people generally point to is. that there was a there was a major.

financial crisis in the United States. that people like JP Morgan stepped in. private Bankers actually stepped in to. help. fix um but then the creation was the. Federal Reserve well I will say you this. large Banks benefit from a large Central. Bank um they make themselves too big to. fail who's in charge of the Federal. Reserve so the Federal Reserve is is. appointed but it it's this strange. entity where they don't have like. there's not direct Congressional. oversight over the Federal Reserve they.

they you appoint the president will will. nominate and appoint the chairman of the. Federal Reserve and then you have the. various federal reserve banks all over. the country like we got one in. Richmond and they they each have you. know their their boards with respect of. the Federal Reserve and and their job is. to monitor their economy monitor how the. currency interplays with that and. determine you know what their balance. sheet should look like with respect to. how many treasury bonds they're buying. because them buying treasuries gives the. federal government money to go spend um.

and right now the reason why interest. rates are higher is because the Federal. Reserve is is getting rid of those and. it's not we're not printing more money. out but what it's also doing is it's. affecting interest rates and I I hope. this isn't boring but I need to explain. this really quickly a lot of people. because of the way the media portrays. this interest rates ements get treated. like they's something the Federal. Reserve. decides and in some way they arbitrarily. do but when an interest rate is supposed. to reflect is the amount of money in.

savings so for instance if you're a. fractional Reserve Bank which means you. know when you deposit your money in the. bank they don't keep all of it there in. a vault they they loan some of it out. and that's how the bank makes money and. they may pay you a small interest to. keep it in there like it's factional. Reserve. banking when there is a lot of money in. the bank which means more people have. saved the money they've earned the bank. has an incentive to lower interest rates. in order to encourage people to take out. loans now the signal this sends to the.

economy in a healthy economy the way. it's supposed to work the signal this. sends to entrepreneurs to business. owners is there's a lot of money. currently being saved for future. consumption because the interest rates. are lower this is actually an ideal time. for me to invest in capital projects s. that way I can expand business or I can. be prepared to be able to meet future. demand that's how it's supposed to work. when the Federal Reserve comes in and.

arbitrarily lowers interest. rates the banks have an incentive to. loan out money there's more money to. loan out right at lower interest the. signal that's being sent to Industry is. oh this is a good time to take out loans. for major infrastructure projects. because I'm getting a secured loan at a. much lower interest rate that I would. over here so this is where I'm going to. build all the houses this is where I'm. going to build all the buildings this is. where I'm going to build these these. major. projects but what happens when there's. no payoff in the end because those Banks. weren't loaning out money based off of.

increased savings or increased. productivity in the economy they were. just loaning out printed money well now. I've got all these people competing for. resource the same amount of resources. right because no additional productivity. same amount of resources are being. competed for what does that cause cause. the price of those resources to go up. then all of a sudden housing rights. housing cost sore and lumber cost sore. and concrete sores why because we're. investing in all these long-term. projects and then all of a sudden it. collapses because the wrong signals were.

being sent to the economy so interest. rates play a very very important role in. a healthy free market economy that is. constantly being interfered with because. quite frankly politicians want to spend. more money without having to tax or. borrow it and printing makes for a very. very tempting way to do. that oh okay with this with the debt. yeah three I'm sorry what did did you. say TR $30 trillion in debt who do we.

owe that debt to so it it's a it's a. most of it is owed you could say it's. owed to Americans so it's people that. have bought treasury bonds um some of it. is owned by Foreign entities um that. that can also that also have access to. buy uh foreign treasury now. theoretically what that does is it. allows them to jump they if they wanted. to like all of a sudden drump dump all. those treasury bonds that can have an. adverse effect with respect to our. currency and economic uh.

status so if we wanted to start paying. down this debt how would we do it we. would have to cut spending so you'd have. to do one of two things you'd have to. either raise taxes or cut spending and. really you'd have to do both here's the. problem uh politicians don't get. rewarded for cutting spending they get. rewarded for spending more until it. collapses and then they blame somebody. else um if you really wanted to. significantly cut into not only the debt. that we currently have but the unfunded.

mandates that we have coming for that's. Social Security Medicaid Medicare. because remember when these things. started out in the 19 the Social. Security in the 1930s Medicaid Medicare. I think in the 60s um was Social. Security there was a lot more people. paying into it than were taking it out. well now we have a lot fewer people. paying into it um and again it's not. like we're pulling from a reserve fund. that you paid into like a regular. retirement insurance program or a. 401k so that's the part where where you.

get into a crisis of we don't have. enough money to fund all of this is this. because of the baby boomer generation. starting to draw yeah I mean that's the. biggest generation yeah B baby boomers. are yeah baby boomers are now moving. into reti the baby movs do not have as. many kids they're moving into retirement. they're already in retirement age MH um. and so they're they're collecting off of. Social Security and they're not about to. not collect off of Social Security and. so but there's fewer people in the. workforce to actually add into it which. is one of the big pushes for more. immigration because we're not producing.

enough children to actually keep up with. the economic requirements necessary to. fulfill our. mandates so when the when the baby. boomer generation is deceased do you. think this is going to. balance uh theoretically it could it it. probably won't because again the the. political incentive is to always spend. money not to cut. spending and part of that is because and. and that is not because the government. spending money produces better economic. results it because it looks better in.

campaign ads right yeah nobody wants the. campaign ad saying you want to cut. Social Security they want the campaign. ad saying we're going to make sure we. take care of America's. seniors okay well if the mechanism that. you're using to take care of American. seniors is eventually going to bankrupt. the country you really haven't done. anybody a favor. but that's the future politician problem. that's not your politician problem I. think that the baby boomer generation. has caused a lot of issues you know and. and it seems to me that every aspect of.

business is Catered towards the baby. boomer generation you know when they. were having kids when me and you were. growing up all the commercials were it. was toys it was fast food it was stuff. like that now it's all look at it it's. all medicine it's all Pharmaceuticals. it's all J atric stuff yeah you know and. and so you start to see like I mean. they're the reason fast food was even. did fast food come with the baby Boer. generation when they were kids correct I.

think so fast as we understand it today. towards the baby gener the baby boomer. generation that it just it makes me. wonder if when they're gone if this is. all going to start to balance out I. don't um I I think there'll definitely. be there'll definitely be some. differences the problem is though is. that our birth rates continue to decline. MH this is one of the things that Elon. Musk said that um kind of pissed off all. the environmentalists he goes our. problem is not population growth our. problem is going to be population. decline because um I don't believe.

there's a single country in the west the. US used to be the exception of this us. and I think Ireland at one point that. has a a population growth um above. replacement so so right now if like. let's say we didn't have a bunch of. immigration um the United States. population would essentially remain. steady at the the current numbers or or. potentially dip all of Europe would dip. uh China is facing a a a significant. population decline India is going to. overtake China and population in a.

relatively short period of time there's. 30 million more men in China than there. are women right now that's like the. population of Canada um that has caused. now people look at that like oh that. won't that work itself out okay well. think about this you have 30 million. more men than you do women which means. finding a wife which is pretty important. to the civilization of men right is. pretty important it's completely beyond. their reach so now you have a bunch of. dispossessed young men that can't find a. wife that are in serious economic.

problems and don't feel any real. motivation one of two things happens. with that that either becomes a enormous. economic drain on your economy or it. becomes a really easy Rebel group um so. when I when I look at a lot of these. issues with with respect to does the. Baby Boomers going through solve the. problem not if the systemic issues. associated with what's going on continue. what what will end up is different. problems um so they might change but the.

underlying the underlying issues are. still are still there with the way that. our our system is set up and the way. it's. functioning how did coming off the gold. Stander affect all of us essentially so. there was a couple different moves for. that um like. FDR made it illegal for people to own. gold and then FDR set the price of gold. based off of his lucky numbers that's. not myth that's not hyperbole his. biographers admit this um anybody that.

tells you FDR was a great president no. he was not he was absolutely devastating. for this country in many ways I I can. respect some of the stances he took. during World War II and everything else. but economically that guy was a anyway I. won't use the language I want to because. he did he set up so many things like he. he modeled so much of what he did um. under the New Deal off of melini's Italy. to the to the point where Hugh Johnson. who was responsible for actually running. the Blue Eagle program and everything. else within the United States used to.

carry around fascist tracks and hand. them out to people yeah funny enough. that never makes it in to your history. books by from the people calling all the. rest of us. fascists but one of he one of one of. things he did was he confiscated the. private ownership of gold and part of. that because we had a gold Movement we. had a silver movement um with in the. country on on backing the. currency uh then we moved on to an. entirely different model where now it. was going to be set up based off of. exchange rates in other countries and so. it wasn't something to where you could.

go into a bank and trade in your your. dollar for uh the requisite amount of. gold but it still played a it still. played a um a limiting feature on how. much you can print so here's here's the. bottom line I should have led with this. here's the bottom line if your currency. is backed by a commodity like like gold. and that currency represents a certain. unit of gold you can't just print as. much of it as you want because it's. going to adjust the way that gold you.

know moves between various countries. because we're working off of exchange. rates and things like that so what that. does is it limits the power of the the. government with the ability to just. print gold or excuse me print money and. spend. it um the way they used to do this. before paper money was a was a big thing. they used to clip coins so like the. Roman Empire used to be like a Daenerys. with so much you know silver or whatever. precious metal they were using what they. started to do was clip the actual you. know coin so it didn't have as much of.

the actual pure metal that had the. intrinsic value and the end result was. is that all of a sudden it took a lot. more Daenerys to buy something I mean. you could still do that with with gold. coins today yeah if you buy them on you. know on the market they make them like. that so there there's a difference. between a currency which is backed by. commodity that has intrinsic value gold. has intrinsic value and has always been. used as a currency because people will. accept it it's universally accepted that. gold has value um you could do this with.

other precious metals as well the. problem is is that little dollar you. have in your pocket that has no value. other than the United States government. will accept it to pay your. taxes so what what gives that dollar. value is that you know you're going to. have to pay taxes. and you know the guy at the gas station. is going to have to pay taxes so I can. buy gas by giving him these Federal. Reserve notes and he'll accept them. because he knows when it comes time to. pay his taxes the government will accept.

those Federal Reserve notes but if you. if you don't tie it to something of. intrinsic value you run the risk of of. inflation and labor later hyperinflation. and the important thing to understand is. that through all of history the first. time that we saw an instance of of. hyperinflation with a paper currency was. the Yuan dynast in China so we're. talking thousands of years ago right or. yeah might have been 1500. um there's never been a purely fiat. currency that didn't experience um.

significant inflationary problems. because the political incentive to spend. is is too. great but if you change that to a. digital currency the real problem now is. is that theoretically the government has. a tie to your account like if you have. the paper Dollar in your hand and. someone will accept. it there's a lot more under the table. transactions that can take place as a. result of that but if your. entire monetary wealth in the form of or. like currency is tied to a digital.

account well then yeah the implications. of that are pretty significant now. freezing your account means you're. screwed right you're you're not taking. your bag of money and leaving somewhere. because there is no bag of money anymore. I mean I'm with you I agree. I I I think about this all the time with. the digital. currency and we're seeing less and less. change you know and but when I think. about it I mean we're already seeing the.

government not even just the government. we've seen PayPal freeze accounts we've. seen Banks turn over I mean let's just. Jan 6 yeah all that banking information. got turned over Canada those the what. was that like the trucker Rally or. something yeah they the financials got. turned over to the government I. mean not very many people even have cash. in their wallet anymore it's all it's. already digital it's all credit card.

it's all check there's not a lot of. money exchange like physical dollars. actually changing hands so. what I'm not disagreeing with you. sure what I'm saying is what is the. actual difference when you put it in. that kind of perspective and everything. is already digitized how is a digital. Curren and they're already manipulating. Banks into. controlling M and yours. money how's it going to be any different.

might be a little easier yeah but well I. that's I I actually think the difference. is it makes it significant easier so. let's also make a distinction between. digital currency and federally issued. digital currency oh good like Bitcoin um. you know shimu shuu like whatever like. all that stuff that's privately um you. know mined and and monitored currency it. actually provides something of a a hedge. against um fiat currency because it's so. inflationary now you can have a digital.

coin that's also inflationary right like. Bitcoin is is very anti-inflationary but. others are you know they they can mine. more of it etc etc the difference is. that they're usually based off of. equations which is actually kind of what. Milton Freedman wanted for the Federal. Reserve um that prevents the government. from coming in and just printing more of. something and then spending it because. they want to everybody that owns that. digital currency over here actually has. an incentive to not print off more of it. so the incentive structure is very very. different the other thing that's.

different about a federally produced. digital currency versus like paper money. or some other you know form of money. that you can hold in your hand um you're. right the vast majority of us we pay. with our debit card we don't pay with. cash but imagine you didn't have the. option at. all that is a game changer danger. because when things become more. difficult um people might start to. choose that I'm going to keep more cash. on hand or I'm going to buy up more of. this this digital currency that isn't.

connected to Federal Reserve notes or. whatever it is but if the government. creates a situation where it's like. we're no longer printing money anymore. their ability to reach in and hit your. account and actually really hurt you has. just gone up exponentially because they. haven't provided you another option. within their system and that's why. you're seeing seen competition within. the private sector right now that's why. I always tell people regardless of what. you feel about Bitcoin or or you know. whatever ethereum like do what you want. I'm not telling you how to invest I'm.

not telling you where to spend I like. the fact that they exist uh. because complete government control over. currency I think is a. problem what are your thoughts on. bitcoin. um I wish I would have got into it 10. years ago. yeah I forget somebody was talking about. how I think the first Bitcoin. transaction that ever took place was. eight Bitcoins for a pizza yeah and if. you look at it today I think that would. make it something like a $300,000 pizza.

or something like that. um again I I don't I don't claim to be. an expert with respect to. cryptocurrency um you know I've owned a. little bit before a very little bit I I. find it kind of fascinating um. I think ultimately it has the it's like. anything else it is a tool and it is. morally neutral it can be used for good. it be it can be used for bad for me the. biggest advantage to it right now is.

that it is not owned by a. government um and that gives it value to. me on on some level yeah um I don't. we're I don't think we are at a point. right now where we're seeing enough most. crypto is not used as currency it's used. as an investment. um I I think the thing that will cause. it to be used more as currency is if you. start to see kind of more Federal push. back against things like when the. federal government starts like deep like.

Nile farage got his is you know they. won't bank with him over there because. he led the whole issue with brexit like. holy crap like you're going to you're. just going to say you can't bank with us. anymore like okay that's fine but if. that's going to be the mechanism that's. what's going to open up the opportunity. for cryptocurrencies to play more of a. role as a traditional currency I'm not. familiar with what you're talking about. now farage was the the guy in the UK uh. over on the kind of the conservative. side he was big on brexit and whatnot um.

he's actually like he had a lot of banks. like there's been a de banking problem. where a lot of these uh banks have just. said we're not we're going to refuse to. do business with you and so the question. becomes like okay where do I put my. money um because obviously that does MO. a lot of our transactions actually take. place through banks not through just. individual um cuz again we're using that. debit card mhm and we we've seen this. too you know Andrew Tate had a lot of. his stuff like taken regardless if how. you feel about Tate but had a lot of. that stuff shut down and so a lot of the.

banking Black Rock does this all the. time Black Rock does this with form of. Dei ESG scores if you don't comply with. what they want to see you don't get. investors and they control 10 trillion I. think or they used to control 10 now I. think it's seven um but that's. significant and so the the more of these. traditional institutions especially the. ones most closely linked with the. governments start flexing their muscles. to say that if you don't if you don't. agree with us ideologically on these.

things then we won't give you access to. a banking system that you absolutely. rely upon to make basic transactions. that's where cryptocurrency I think. really comes in as a as a useful. alternative yeah do you think the dollar. is going to. collapse so my my my buddy Chris and I. we debate this a lot on he says. absolutely he says Absolut it's. inevitable it has to. happen um I think it depends which is. such a lame answer right but um is it.

going to collapse in the way that like. say the wymer Republic did in the 1930s. or Zimbabwe recently did where it's just. like all of a sudden it's. $75,000 for a loaf of bread I mean. inflation got so bad in Zimbabwe 12. years ago where you could walk into the. store pick up a piece pick up an item. and come back and by the time you got to. the checkout register the price had. increased you got to be kidding no they. they they were carrying around like I. have a trillion I have aund trillion.

dollar Zimbabwe. bill um hyperinflation had got to the. point where it was like I think 75,000. per. I mean it was just it was insane um. I don't see that happening anytime soon. within the United States for a couple of. reasons one is because we still are. economically the most powerful Nation on. Earth we still are the reserve currency. so a lot of other countries have an. incentive for the dollar to not. collapse the issue that's coming up. right now is the bricks system which is.

you know Brazil China um India South. Africa and Russia that's BR I said it. out of order but that's what it is. they're announcing that they want to. come up with a new currency to push back. against the dollar and they want it to. be a commodity based currency which. means like a gold-backed currency now 10. days ago I would have told you bricks is. a joke if they actually pull that. off I still don't think bricks is going. to be successful because the countries.

involved have so much internal economic. and social problems like South Africa is. so close to becoming a failed State and. people don't even realize it China is. facing huge economic I don't think. China's going to be the second richest. country in the world in 10 years um. they're they're they're facing massive. massive problems. um the Russian economy is is smaller. than South Korea is it really yeah I. didn't know that yeah so I yeah so I. don't think these countries are are.

going to be able to make good on this uh. for a variety of social economic and. geographical reasion but the smartest. thing I've heard them come up with so. far is a commodity based currency um. because that that would there's going to. be a lot of people that regardless of. how they feel about the current system. they're G to try to hedge their bets and. if they've got a bet that they can go. with that could cause real problems for. the dollar I mean it seems like they're. making a lot of traction more and more. countries are heading to that is is it a.

currency yet no I don't think so I mean. Argentina I saw seems to be all about it. and AR Argentina can talk a good Dame. all day long but that that if you ever. wanted to see a country in the Western. Hemisphere that should be a a world. power that isn't it's Argentina and it's. because it's been one of the most you. know effectively mismanaged countries um. with with so much going forward in the. way of weather natural resources and. everything else but they they they keep.

they keep electing populists you know or. or socialist oriented. uh strong men and and it's just it's. it's devastated their overall economic. growth what are you putting your money. in to protect it from uh ammunition no. I'm kidding ammunition ammunition and. livestock uh no um I did I did have. somebody once come up to me like Nick. you got to invest in silver I'm like why. do this was 10 years ago and he goes. Nick you got to invest in silver I'm.

like why do I got to invest in silver he. goes because when everything collapses. you're not going to buy a loaf of bread. with an ounce of gold right you got to. have you got to have something with you. know that's more divisible than that and. it's easier to exchange I said Vu man I. don't I don't got to buy silver he goes. why I'm like cuz I have guns an. ammunition your silver is now my silver. and now go plow my. field and I I kid you not a week later. he comes into work he's like so Nick I. took your advice I'm like oh no dude. what are you talking about he's like.

yeah he goes I just bought uh I just. bought three more rifles can you teach. me how to shoot I'm like crap. dude um no I I. think I still I still think even though. this is an interesting time to be doing. it because interest rates are a little. bit higher um I will always believe that. that real estate has value now where it. has value and under under what. circumstances can change but they're not. making any more land um and so I I think. there's there's something valuable about.

that now again I always caveat I do not. give Financial advice I'm not a super. wealthy dude I'm nothing like that um. but the place where I feel the most. comfortable is having something that I. can like touch not just a not a stock. that is largely. speculative um so I I think real estate. is is still going to be a a a valuable. um commodity to. possess um as far as stocks I I try to. spread it out to where there there's.

something there I do have a little bit. of crypto um but it's it's almost kind. of like backup plan in case I needed to. use it as as currency. um but I'm with you on the land yeah I. think that'll be that'll be the last to. go I all comes crashing down well cuz I. you know you got a good piece of land I. I can one of the reasons why we got into. Homestead and is again it's not because. my lifelong dream was to be a farmer or. something but um again I just never. wanted to be in that situation where can.

I feed my family and I wanted to take. some control over that and man a good. piece of land even if it's not even if. you don't see it as an investment you. you've got a you got five acres a little. bit like especially if you got some. water on it or something like that the. amount of like value that that has in. very very real practical terms with the. amount of food you can grow the amount. of livestock you can raise I mean five. five acres you're.

feeding you're feeding a ton of people. with that man yeah if you if you know. how to manage it right you know even. with the land stuff I start to get a. little bit worried I mean I don't know. how I don't know how true this is but I. saw a head a bumper sticker headline. quite a few of them couple weeks go. saying that the New York city mayor is. now telling people that they may have to. take in illegal immigrants into their. homes which means you don't own that.

real estate Noe you know and then that's. always that is always a problem I mean I. didn't I didn't I saw the headlines head. I mean we all know headlines can be. I didn't look into it that much. because I don't live in New York yeah. you know so I don't really care in fact. part of me thinks great good you guys. wanted that I'm glad they're finally. living with the consequences of their. policies well unfortunately a bunch of. New Yorkers are moving here but um you. know and they're bringing their ideas.

with them well can I can I say that I. think there's I look at investment is. three different levels right there's. there's the the real estate is I think. practical for because I think it has it. has intrinsic. value stocks have a certain degree of. intrinsic value but so many of them. depending on what you get right are very. speculative you got to look at your your. price to earnings ratio or your PE ratio. in order to determine is this company. turning over a profit and has good um. good fundamentals or or whatnot and then. you have um the the stuff like you know.

gold and whatnot and then the question. is is how do you have the gold do you. have gold in a stock do you have gold. somewhere else do you have gold coins. sitting in your safe um I I think gold. is always a good precious medals I think. are are always good because from time. immemorial they they've had value and. they've always seem to you know. gradually over time increase in value. and it it also provides that additional. thing where I can pick up the bag and. leave with it right I don't got to go to. the bank first or or ask the Federal. Reserve if they will please you know.

Bank of America will you please unlock. my account so I can get the money that. you know um so I think that's always. valuable as as both as kind of a a hedge. and as a a your go bag you know skidadle. bag um yeah the land I like just because. there's in inic value inherent within it. and then the speculative stock or. speculative. stuff but like you said there there's. always. the the the first time in my life like I. I I am I am absolutely convinced I will.

go down fighting for my country um but I. remember not that long ago I was I was. looking at property somewhere. else and um so someone was giving me. crap about it can't tell I was looking I. was looking at Costa Rica a lot of. people were looking that yeah I was look. to Costa Rica um you were Paraguay right. Paraguay yeah I I think that yeah makes. it actually makes probably more sense. south of the south of the cartel drug.

crisis yeah yeah oh yeah because the. western coast of uh or eastern coast of. Costa Rica is yeah problematic but um. but I someone was like why are you doing. that like you you would honestly just. I'm. like I'm gonna I I'll fight to The. Bitter End I don't think it's gonna come. to that right I I hope I'm I'm. optimistic that you know good men are. going to stand up good women are going. to stand up and we're we're going to. take this back because um ultimately. what they're pitching doesn't work um. but if that takes a.

while I want my grandkids to be able to. make their own decision me too me too. you know the other thing that uh I mean. have you seen this New York mayor yeah. all the stuff that now he's he's he's. calling for Biden to lock up the. southern border I saw that too yesterday. I saw that yesterday I was like it. Sanctuary anymore aren't you a sanctuary. City isn't it amazing that you know all. these border states now are shipping. these these illegal immigrants up to New.

York and all of a sudden now that. they're in their backyard they don't. like it what is what do you think about. the what's going on down there so. initially I remember a lot of people. being mad like they should ship them. back across the border why are you. shipping them to these other you know. cities because they have been doing it. across the border and the policy hasn't. changed because the people advocating. the policy don't have to deal with the. consequences and and that is um I think. it was I think it was Thomas Soul one of. the best quotes he he ever had and he.

has a ton was he said one of the. stupidest things that you can. do is take decisions out of the hands of. people that pay a price for being wrong. and put them into the hands of people. that play no price for being wrong and. he was specifically referring to like. intellectuals and politicians it's that. they get to send there and wax. intellectual and talk about how. wonderful and great and tolerant and. nice they are well yeah because they. don't got to deal with the consequences. of what they're they're talking about.

that's somebody else's problem the. moment it became their problem holy crap. what a bunch of Border closing bigots. golly G willikers turns out turns out. that there's actual you know problems. with respect to Resource allocation and. things like that that this wasn't stuff. that racist Texans and arizonans were. making. up um so I told look I said to people. that were like well they should have. done this or they should have do that. I'm like you know what screw it I'm. sorry the only way you are going to get.

woke progressives to actually understand. the consequences of their worldview is. for them to experience the consequences. of it that's it as long as they can. Outsource the consequences to other. people and they can just sit there and. be happy nice tolerant people well then. fine they'll they'll do it all day long. they will fight to the last drop of your. blood all right but the mo now look the. thing I don't. like um I mean obviously we're talking. about Flesh and Blood people here MH um.

but at least from what Abbott's saying. and DeSantis and everyone else they're. not ranting them up putting on a bus and. S they're say saying who would like to. go to New York who would like to go to. Chicago who would like to go to Martha's. Vineyard now you can argue all day long. do they truly understand what's going on. or why or whatnot but their their goal. let's face it their goal was not to get. to you know a Border Town in Texas their. goal was not to get to a Border Town in. Arizona their goal was to get to the. United. States well great they're helping them.

get you know even deeper into the United. States as a result yeah um so I think. that you know again as is my buddy. Christian says you can ignore reality. you just can't ignore the results of. ignoring reality mhm and um and that's. the problem is that a lot of people have. had the benefit of ignoring reality. because their bad decisions were being. paid for by other people and now their. bad decisions are being paid for by them. well a lot of them have just been able.

to escape we talked about this earlier I. think you know one thing that and I. don't know how you would do this I I. I've been saying for a couple years now. I think it would be tax incentives but. you know but um you see you see this. with California you see this with. Illinois you see this with New York you. see it with Michigan you see it with. Minnesota I know I'm missing a bunch of. places but those are probably those are. the primary ones that stick out in my. mind and you see all these people and.

they created these they voted this in. they voted in the fact. that the state can come in and rip your. 8-year-old kid away from me if they want. to change genders they voted they voted. in the Border policy they vote they. voted all this and now it's happening. mhm it's a it's it's you've got exactly. what you wanted mhm everything you voted. everything you wanted is now happening. and you don't like it and now all of.

these other states who've been avoiding. this. stuff are opening the gates to these. people that voted this in mhm and. they're coming here and they're ruining. where I live yeah and they're ruining. where you live they're ruining Texas. they're ruining Florida and it's like. this it's like this disgusting plague. that's just coming out and the governors. are just with open arms yeah come on in.

come on in you want a taxfree state cuz. you voted the fact the fact that the. state's going to take 30% of your wages. yeah come here just come on over here in. fact just spend six months here don't. even tell anybody until you can tell all. your friends that you're still a. resident and California you know and. they're they're coming in what what do. you think about that so what's. interesting is that you you states don't. have the ability to obviously prevent. American citizens from coming through um.

but they might they if they I mean what. if they had a like a step down stru tax. structure like okay you're going to come. here you're going to pay the exact same. amount of taxes that you were paying in. California for the first 5 years and. then we're going to step down and you're. going to pay 50% of that after another 5. years and then after 15 years then. you'll get the taxfree so here here's. what I would here's what I would say I. mean make them have a little skin in the. game I believe me very very.

sympathetic the the issue that I have. from a policy perspective one of the. phenomenons that we're watching take. place right now that is actually. different from what's happened in the. past is that people are engaging in more. ideologically oriented self- sorting so. it used to be New Yorkers moved to. Arizona not because they were trying to. flee the tax policy in New York they. fled to Arizona because it's warmer. weather same thing with Florida right. same thing with a lot of places and then. we started to see more of this with.

California where you had companies you. know getting up and moving to to Texas. and now Austin looks like Berkeley. almost it's disgusting yeah um the the. question has always been because a lot. of this has fostered through Economic. Development it's been this whole deal. like oh we're going to get your industry. and they were going to become more. economically um powerful but the problem. is is that if the bad policies came with. the business then you're you're setting. yourself up for future. failure we're starting some more.

ideological self- sorting which is to. say people are. leaving with with very very. knowledgeable of why they are leaving. and why they are going to the place they. go I I call it I call it the difference. between locusts and. refugees so a a you know and again oh. you're accusing people of being an. insect it's a metaphor don't be a punk. right Locust destroy the wealth within a. particular region and then they leave. when there's no more wealth to. consume so they create the negative.

conditions which forces them to leave. but then when they go to the new place. that has abundance what do they do they. engage in the exact same sort of. behavior so they just essentially go. around as a as a as a wrecking. ball a refugee knows why they're leaving. knows why they're going to the place. that they're going to and is. appreciative for what they now have they. want to be a part of that and they feel. gratitude for where they're going in the.

new system that that has essentially. adopted. them the question is is how do you. prevent the locusts while at the same. time accepting the people that it it is. a great thing for Tennessee if you know. people with the same value system who. want to work hard and raise their family. come to Tennessee it's not it's not a. bad thing um it is a bad thing if all of. a sudden your state government is giving. off a bunch of movie tax credits in. order to encourage Hollywood to shoot. more films over here to set up more you.

know industry within Tennessee and then. all of a sudden you've encouraged a. bunch of people to come over here based. off of manipulation of the tax. code all right at the expense of all. your current. taxpayers you know what one of the. things that I get in trouble with. sometimes with fellow Republicans is. that we will have bills to manipulate. the tax code to encourage new. business and what they're doing is. they're saying hey all of your. businesses currently in Virginia your. taxes are going to stay the same but.

we're going to give this out of state. company a bunch of incentive to move. here now we still have obligations so. we're still going to collect your taxes. but they get a break now they've tried. to mitigate some of this by saying you. only get the break if you meet certain. numbers with respect to the number of. people you employ and everything. everything else but the problem is is. that like if Amazon comes into Virginia. I was one of seven Republicans that. voted against the Amazon deal in. Virginia if Amazon comes in and they set. up shop and they build you know whatever. a 100 million2 200 million $300 million.

headquarters and they start to employ. people and they don't make they don't. make their um their numbers they have. enough political poll to now come back. and get the numberers. shifted and this is the part where I got. a better idea you want to be the sort of. state that people want move to lower. taxes don't try to manipulate it in. order to give that company favor over. that that's cronyism I hate cronyism I'm. a free market guy not a. Crist I think that would address some of. some of what you're talking about.

um but I'm G to be honest I don't have. well I I take that. back the absolute Kryptonite to the. most like woke companies or stuff like. that coming into your state is not your. Economic Policy it's your social. policy and as as someone who is. obviously very very socially. conservative in my in my views but I. tend to be. more I tend to lean libertarian when it.

comes to look I don't like what you're. doing but I don't want the government to. punish you for it well now we've moved. into to a realm where they don't like. what I'm doing and they do want the. government to punish me for it even. though I'm not hurting. them so part of the reason why I think. States like Tennessee and States like. Florida this is just speculation on my. part I don't have any special insight. into this I think one of the reasons why. they're pushing for this policy is not. only because they believe it to be. morally correct you're not going to. carve up children in the state of. Tennessee I think they also do it.

because it's like you're not going to. like moving. here CU your values are not going to be. reflected in our culture and our laws. not now not ever and so you want to find. a new place to move great pick somewhere. else um. that's the way I see it as being most. effective to say when a state kind of. insists on its culture and doesn't cater. to a business moving in by Man by. manipulating their own tax code or.

making special privileges for them that. they don't give to any of their other. homegrown businesses I think that. actually creates a positive economic. incentive while at the same time maybe. creating the the cultural conditions. which tells you know the super woke prog. of this ain't this this this is probably. not where you would want to live just. like I don't want to live in Berkeley. California you probably don't want to. live in Franklin Tennessee mhm um. but I mean in theory I would love to.

agree with you but I'm I'm I'm seeing. I'm not seeing that happening yeah you. know and and here's another thing that. nobody's talking about is you know even. even if it was all just refugees right. you're not you you as a governor or a. mayor or whoever is is paying you off to. build these developments and put these. businesses in place it's bringing wealth. into these states and that is screwing.

over the people that voted their asses. in here's how because the people that. the people that live here like in. Tennessee just Tennessee right. now none of the it is like an it's like. a. it is very rare to to meet and talk to a. OG original born and raised Tennessean. yeah you know why because they can't. afford to live here anymore because all.

the California wealth and all the New. York wealth. that trying to watch my language here. that that this is new thing of U me. being a dad I'm trying to but uh but. they've R they have they have ruined. where they live made a ton of money now. they're coming here they're going to. bring the same stuff and and the people. that that voted these guys the they're. home they can't afford to live here. anymore they get pushed out yeah you. know and that's that's.

the the thing that I've always. been so so here's the here's the the. skeptical part of. me I I don't I mean I obviously think. that economic development is a good. thing in the sense that I want people to. again if it's free market transactions. and and all I mean by that is you own. property you own your labor I own my. property I own my labor if we decide to. engage in a voluntary transaction well. then Pro presumably it's because both of. us are going to benefit from that.

transaction and I want as much of that. to take place as. possible the sort of garbage that I. think we have going on right now is. political manipulation of the economy so. for instance let's say that once upon a. time uh Old School Tennessee and live. you know right here and now you've got a. bunch of people moving into the area. what does that create it creates more. demand for limited housing well you can. either grow more housing or you can. either build more housing or the value. of the currently prop current property. is going to go up well maybe the OG.

Tennessee and that currently lives here. goes you know what I am definitely. willing to sell my house for twice as. much as I thought it would be worth. because now I can go move deeper into. Tennessee or I can get that property I. always wanted that was a good even. though he might not like the politics of. the person that bought it right he might. benefit from that transaction because. that's what he wanted to do and I don't. want to be in the process politically of. of trying.

to micromanage and manipulate the. economy I don't want to do that I want. to let Free People decide how they spend. their money where they spend it on what. they spend it but the biggest issue I I. see with what you're talking about is. that's not what's going on politicians. are actively going out and saying hey. you you not not not hey we Virginia or. whatever state is is open for business. it's going out and specifically. selecting companies and saying if you. come we'll give you tax.

incentives well I don't want to do that. I I want people to move if someone's. going to move to the Commonwealth of. Virginia I want them to do so because. they appreciate the Commonwealth of. Virginia now we might have some. differences of opinion we can do that's. fine but that's what I want it to be I. don't want it to be something where. we're convincing a bunch of people that. don't want to move to the Commonwealth. of Virginia to do it because look at all. these very very unique and special. economic incentives that we gave just.

you that's a recipe for disaster you're. encouraging somebody that doesn't want. to belong to what you actually have here. doesn't really care about the culture of. what represents or made it possible and. you're just essentially paying them off. to come there that's ridiculous yeah um. set up the. set up an environment where where free. people can Thrive and then let the. people that want to be free and work. hard. Thrive um I mean if if anything.

it's this is this is another one of. thing when I look at there there was. some I can't remember I can't remember I. don't know if this is apocryphal but I. heard it I thought it was hysterical and. it. was um it was like of a small town that. they had they had kind of like the town. drunk right he was the problem he was he. was everything else he you know in and. out of like little like you know one. night hotels and in and out of jail and. the whole deal and just vagrancy and and.

you know destruction of property and. petty theft and whatnot and so um they. they created a circumstance where he won. a uh a flight to Hawaii he won a all. expense paid flight to Hawaii with no. return ticket. and regardless of what you think about. that on a moral level um I I look I look. at policy and I'm like you know what you. don't want to live here you don't want. to work you don't want to contribute I. absolutely think you should go to one of.

these states um preferably aoc's. District she doesn't think you should. have to work she thinks you should just. be able to you know live and collect. money I guess from the government which. is all from the labor of other people. who do have to work I think you should. definitely go and flood those welfare. states just like we're doing right now. with immigration. policy great you don't want to you you. want the benefits of this Society but. you don't want to actually have to. contribute anything to it but you demand. that we pay you to to exist we don't the.

rest of us don't have that luxury. because if we're not out there working. they don't have tax dollars collected to. give to you yeah yeah you're not that's. not Liberty that's licentiousness that's. some lazy ass. crap so great California's that way way. they'd love to have you they're they're. nice and tolerant and they they they. think people like us that are working 60. 70 8 hours a week we're just mean greedy. horrible human. beings um yeah.

that's let's let's create a reverse. incent every where it's like do you know. can like if I was Florida right now I. would seriously be going around to. everybody going have you heard about the. wonderful welfare benefits in California. they will give you so much more than our. state will MH um. because I'm I'm nothing gets me more. Angry than than watching than watching a. leftist stand up and talk about how you. know mean and greedy hardworking people. are because they don't want to pay. another you know however much it is in.

taxes um not to go to roads not not even. to go to people that are truly genuinely. in need because that's the sort of stuff. we should be handling through family. church and Civic. organizations no it's it's to fund. people that vote for a living and they. vote for the politicians that are going. to give them. stuff and that is not only a horribly. that's not only a corrosive mindset on. all of society it's actually a. self-destructive mindset I have never. met a happy entitled person never.

yeah well Nick let's take a quick break. all right when we come back let's talk. about the national divorce. gotcha remember all those life insurance. ads on the TV and on the radio when you. were a kid probably not. because that was your parents job right. secure your family's financial plan in. case of an emergency well guess. what now a lot of you are parents and.

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Afghanistan all right Nick we're back. from the. break you paint a very good picture of. what a national what you call the. national divorce might look like so like. I always got a caveat right I don't want. this to happen right I love my country I. I don't want it to happen but um but. again I mean my background in SF was. unconventional warfare counterinsurgency. this was kind of our our area to some.

degree of looking at discontent within. an area and then mobilizing forces like. okay first of all I think the United. States is unique because we have a we. are a constitutional Federated. Republic um and I don't think most. people appreciate how unique that is in. the world there's not a lot of countries. that have a system like ours You could. argue Germany kind of does the the next. closest one is probably Switzerland with. their their cantons and all that means. is most like you look at France you look.

at the UK they might have regions you. Canada has provinces and whatnot but the. the amount of sovereignty that a state. has is pretty significant and so you. have to view everything to the lens of. that setup versus like other countries. where are more National as opposed to. Federal it's like anything else there's. conditions and then there's a catalyst. if you get a catalyst without a without. the right conditions you get riots right. if you get conditions without a catalyst. you get slow decline or maybe even a.

reversal change over time but you get. conditions in Catalyst that's where you. can actually have something where we see. something significant happening in the. United States that we haven't seen since. say the Civil War um I I think there's. kind of three General conditions the. first one has to do with geographical. self- sorting now what's interesting. from like in early American history is. that you had very very distinct cultures. between the North and the South now. that's not to say that you wouldn't have. found additionally distinct cultures.

between Florida and Virginia but there. was still a sense of almost kind of Us. and Them between northern states and. southern states and a lot of had to do. with like tariff laws and obviously. slavery and things like that uh but it. also had a lot to do with who settled. the various regions. um the United States is very different. now people move all the time people. don't really take as much um they don't. view themselves by their state as much. as they do by their country um so that's. very different than the last time we had. a major civil war or civil.

Uprising but we're seeing more and more. people start to sort ideologically you. definitely see a migration happening in. the country yes there's no doubt about. that and the migration again is not just. happening because it's a nice place to. retire it's not just happening because. they're going to give me a couple extra. thousand on my retirement that's not it. people are now leaving because screw. this place um and when they show up to. the new place they're adamant like they. they are every they they can't stand.

where they came from as much as. everybody else can't stand the people. coming right that sort of geographical. self- sorting is is very interesting um. and kind of a necessary condition if. you're actually looking at something. like National divorce level like session. or whatever you want to call it um. another condition is um diametrically. opposed views of what the country is. supposed to be so for you know most of. my lifetime Democrats and Republicans.

disagreed about what the marginal tax. rate should be or how many government. programs that we should have or you know. what was the best way to you know. facilitate educational outcomes but. everyone thought the Constitution was a. great thing and that Thomas Jefferson. and George Wasington and James Madison. were great people and like there there. was no I mean nobody thought uh nobody. would have thought to argue on the. Democrat side 10 years ago that well of. course you would give a 10-year-old. child puberty blockers if they're.

confused about you know puberty and and. and of course we would surgically alter. them at 17 like why wouldn't you do. those things aren't you you know gender. affirming like that was not a. thing you now have a you now have a. system where among the major political. parties you do have diametrically. opposed Visions not only with where the. United States should go but where it's. been and what that represents so that. goes what I was talking about before. when you're when you demoralize and.

deconstruct a civilization you you now. have one major political entity in. movement that is fully dedicated they. have like just embraced these things um. and while there are still a lot of like. old school Democrats that you know again. still like the Constitution and George. Washington and don't think we're all. crap those people are not running the. show in the Democratic party they're not. the thought leaders within the. Democratic party and I don't mean to. make this overly partisan it's just when. you talk about why would why would a.

nation split in the first. place well if you have diametrically. opposed disagreements not only about. where you've been but where you should. go uh that that's that's pretty. significant all right so the first one. is geographical self- sorting where. people are actually saying I don't want. to live next to these people because we. disagree fundamentally on what's going. on then you have the the ideological. differences major ideological differen. they're not really reconcilable right. that's the whole we want to go this way. we want to go to this way and there's no.

way we can do that together there's not. a real compromise in between these two. positions the third condition I would. say within the United States. is when one of those sides gets enough. Federal power and that is house senate. presidency um and maybe the Supreme. Court at that point the the game is up. if the party which controls those things. believes they should be able to use. federal power to achieve what they want.

so if the party that achieves it says. hey look we don't think the federal. government should be doing all this. stuff this should be done at the state. level you you might be okay but if the. party that achieves that level of power. absolutely 100% believes that they. should use the federal government to go. around and tell everybody how they. should be. behaving now you have three powerful. conditions because now there's nowhere. to escape right now if you don't like. California move to Florida if you don't. like Florida move to. California what happens if you move to.

Florida to avoid California and now The. Californians are controlling the federal. government at such a level to where. Florida doesn't get to do the things it. wanted to do anymore because now it's a. violation of federal law and you have a. supreme court which has now dreamed up. violations of of the Constitution that. never existed 5 minutes ago and and for. anybody that wants to tell me that. that's that's ridiculous how would the. Supreme Court even do that in 1940 in. the 1930s the Supreme Court held back. FDR's aspects of his new deal that they.

didn't like because it was horribly. unconstitutional FDR threatened to pack. the. court a couple of justices retired he. replaced them with uh Progressive. justices and the Supreme Court in 1942. detered. that it was constitutional for the. federal government to regulate your. garden right if you grew if you grew. food for your own. consumption right they could regulate. that and the reason why they could is.

because of a liberal interpretation of. the interstate commerce clause because. if you hadn't been growing I think it. was wheat might have been corn if you. hadn't been growing that for your own. consumption you might have gone to the. store to buy corn and if you had gone to. the store to buy corn the corn you. purchased at that store might have come. from a different state and so therefore. your economic activities with respect to. your garden impacted interstate commerce. the federal government could regulate. it whoa so nobody gets to tell me that. the Supreme Court would. never you know do something like this.

especially because if you had a. president a senate and a house they. could stack the Supreme. Court so now you're living in a state. that let's say is. 65. 70% you know of one way of. thinking and the rural urban. distinctions are not as great as they. used to. be and now you've got a federal. government that is coming in and telling.

you that you're not allowed to live the. way that you want anymore but you've got. a governor and the governor decides. screw that I'm not doing. it well that's what we call. nullification that's where a state. government essentially tells the federal. government we believe that you have. violated your constitutional. restrictions and limitations and so. therefore we're not going to help you. enforce these laws within the boundaries. of our state now right. now law enforcement doesn't have to you.

know local law enforcement doesn't have. to necessarily work with federal law. enforcement if it's Federal jurisdiction. the federal the feds can do it but that. doesn't mean they get to hijack state. and local resources to do it. nullification would be a positive state. statement by a state to say we're not. doing that we're not going to help you. with. that that puts the federal government in. incredibly difficult position because. they don't have sufficient numbers. within federal law enforcement to impose. things without assistance from state and. local the way they usually get that.

assistance is through Joint Task Force. where there's Revenue sharing or there's. money involved or the state threatens to. withhold funds for other things if they. don't get. cooperation the next level up from. nullification which is just I'm not. cooperating I'm not going to help you is. what they call. interos inter position is when FBI. agents show up and Texas Rangers meet. him and say get the F out of. Texas what happens at that.

point right so you can already tell like. with these sorts of conditions and not. all of the by the way not all of those. conditions are met right one of them is. met one of them is kind of being met. like the one that's been met is. diametrically opposed Visions for the. country and diametrically opposed views. of our history the one that's starting. to be met is the geographical self-. sorting the one that hasn't been met yet. is one side dominates the federal uh. space and wants to use it to achieve.

their. objectives if you have all of that the. next thing you need is the. Catalyst now we went through I went we. went we did a show Once where we talked. about all right would the Catalyst be if. they per walk Donald Trump into a. federal prison and we all agreed no that. would make make people mad you might see. some writing might see other things but. it's not a catalyst for this sort of. stuff what if they stack the Supreme. Court yeah that probably feeds onto. conditions but it's probably not a. sufficient Catalyst until the Supreme. Court tries to do something like say say. you had a supreme court that says the. Second Amendment no longer means what it.

means all right but if you had that and. you had a catalyst such as again a. supreme court saying the Second. Amendment no longer conveys an. individual right to the private. ownership of fireman only applies to. state run militias which this supreme. court now interprets as the National. Guard and so now federal agents with the. ATF are going to show up and start to. confiscate weapons if local and state. don't support. it ATF over here Texas Rangers is over. here and Texas Rangers ain't budging.

well what are you going to do federal. government well you could back. down or you could open. fire you open fire at that point you are. going to see the biggest Fu from a lot. of stat. that are not even going to claim we're. leaving the Union right they're not. doing that they're just going to claim. we're not abiding by this that's inner. position now a lot of times when we talk. about nullification enter position the. left will come in and be like Oh you. mean like opposition to the civil rights.

movement because those terms were used. to try to oppose desegregation they were. used for horrible things but the thing. that they seem to forget is one of the. earliest instances of a state telling. the federal government not only to pound. sand but you actually have had a local. sheriff that arrested a federal Marshall. and put him in jail was in. Wisconsin and it was because Wisconsin. did not recognize the legitimacy of The. Runaway Slave Act because the Runaway. Slave Act meant that Federal Marshals. were actually chasing.

down um people that had escaped slavery. and then returning them to slavery you. had to make it all the way to Canada to. be truly safe and Wisconsin told that. the feds you ain't doing that here and. they literally locked up the fed and. they they they made sure the other guy. got out of there and so you have this. big crisis moment on what you going to. do well fed's kind of you backed away. and that's going to be that's going to. be the point I hope uh if it ever got to.

something like that the federal response. would be like okay we've overstepped our. boundaries we don't want a situation. where we're killing Americans the thing. that worries me. though is I I hear some of the things. that that. people say I mean we all. do when you have that level of. hatred people start itching for an. excuse. and one of the things that's feeling a.

lot of this right now is. disgust and disgust is actually an. incredibly po powerful motivator when it. comes to Preparing someone to have the. capacity for. violence and that's that's that should. be concerning to all of us. but if the people coming if in your mind. the people coming to confiscate your. firearms because of a liberal pack. Supreme Court are the same people that. don't mind there being openly. pornographic images within your kids.

public school and by the way anybody. that says that isn't happening is either. a liar or so horribly misinformed that. you shouldn't listen to anything else. they say because that is happening I've. seen it myself we argued this in in. Virginia we had a bill that just said. you got to notify parents if it's there. not even Banning it you just got to. notify parents if it's there not one. Democrat voted yes so I don't want to. hear nobody wants. this so imagine now you can already see. the disgust welling up at me so imagine. a situation where now someone is going. to come and deny you of a. constitutionally protected right because.

of a process that you feel is. illegitimate because they already stack. the. court and these are the same people that. represent a whole lot of other behavior. that you think is horribly disgusting. and directed toward. children yeah that's a potential powder. cake and um and I desperately don't want. that to. happen uh cuz as you and I mentioned. before there's a lot of people that talk. with a lot of bravado about like yeah. let's go fight in the streets and it's. usually talked by people that have never. had to fight in the streets yeah I don't.

want my kids having to live with that my. whole goal is to the only reason I talk. about some of this stuff and discuss it. and talk about things like conditions. and Catalyst and and how these things. could take place it's because I don't. want it. to I I would love it if the other side. would agree I would love it if the other. side would just come to grips with. something very quickly we are a republic. of republics that's what the states are. part of the reason why that was set up. and this James Madison right the. district I. represent Madison reviewed over and over.

and over again why do republics. fall and one of the biggest conclusions. he came to is republics grow to such a. size to where a small Central Authority. is attempting to govern things that they. can't possibly understand understand. cultural institutions they can't. possibly appreciate uh norms and. situations and so the whole idea behind. a federal system behind separation of. powers behind competing. Powers was this concept. of national Unity is going to rest.

around the federal government doing very. very few things and it's right there. listed in Article 1 Section 8 of The. Constitution for everything else you. look to your state you look to your. locality most importantly look to the. individual as a free person to be able. to make their own. decisions if we can get back to. respecting that we're not going to agree. on everything but the best way to live. in peace is not to force everybody else. to do what you want but to sometimes. just leave other people. alone and you know what reality has a.

great job of proving who is right and. who is wrong on individual situations. often. times I don't know that they're willing. to accept that I think they become so. convinced that they're right and we're. evil whereas we think we're right and. they're wrong and that's a very very. different thing but more and more I'm. seeing people on the right say no no no. they're. evil and that's where it gets dangerous. yeah do you think there's I mean do you. think there's we're divided on.

everything mhm. everything is there a way to even get. back to the way it. was I yeah I. historically it'll be very difficult um. but it can. happen countries have countries have. gone through crisis moments where it. looked. like it looked like there was no return. MH and and you never get back to where.

you. were uh but you can you can get to a. good. place but the only. way the only way you achieve something. like that is first of all you have to. recognize the source of the problem you. can't you can't hide it that's one of. the biggest issues people don't don't. talk about thing you're going to. encourage this you're going to encourage. how are we supposed to properly diagnose. a problem if we're not allowed to. discuss it. yeah and then it really is going to take. um again the people that believe.

in objective right and wrong objective. truth logic. reason. um individual liberty plus personal. responsibility. um it's going to take those people. willing to stand up and fight for it. like right now we have people that. remain silent not because they're. threatened with any physical violence or. Force but because they're. embarrassed and that's the first thing. to get past I was talking with somebody.

really nice guy really nice guy and. we're talking on the plane and he's. getting excited as he's talking about. the missionary work he. does and and he's and he's he's not. talking loud but he's definitely talking. loud enough where the the you know. people around could hear and I remember. like I even had this almost tinge like. oh I wonder if anybody's getting. offended by us talking and then I. stopped myself I'm like no now what this. guy's talking about right now was he's. talking about raising his kids and he's. talking about going out and and and. preaching and he's talking about.

speaking hope into people's lives and. and the sacrifices that they made and. where he's come from because he had gone. through a lot to get to that point and. I'm like no no no he has every right he. has every right to be excited about what. he's talking about. and I got every right to be excited for. what he's talking. about and I am tired I am. tired of of parents and people in. general Free People what are supposed to. be free people upset because well you. know we're not allowed to talk about.

politics or. religion I I don't want to be accused of. being a. bigot because I believe that you know. the Bible says certain things about. human sexuality and I and I think. they're true and I'm not here to force. you to believe what I believe but I I. want to believe that these things are. true and I'm not I'm tired I'm tired of. feeling like a a hostage of my own. country because well if you do that. there there'll be there'll be social you. know ostracizing for. it and I get told this I get told this.

by the same people the same people that. want to look at me with a huge level of. righteous indignation how dare you want. school choice you must hate poor kids as. if I don't want to four poor kids and. then those same people that that think. I'm mean and I mean and and how dare I. challenge them on anything don't I know. that they're the nice altruistic kind. people I'm the mean. one and those same people will get up. and sit there and justify why there.

needs to be pornography in a school or. why that kid needs to get puberty. blockers at 10 years old or why that kid. needs to be carved. up or that kid needs to be aborted at. month. n and I'm the bad guy no I'm sorry yeah. only in clown world is that the bad guy. and and the only reason the only reason. I believe it's been allowed to continue. to this degree because there hasn't been. enough men in society not that I don't. want women to stand up too but there. hasn't been enough men in society to. stand up and be like slow your.

roll because let's face it at the end of. the day this power that they're. projecting where does it come. from honestly when you look at the. people right when you look at antifa are. you worried about your physical safety. I don't see any one of these people that. poses a physical threat to me absolutely. not yeah you want to go down that road I. will show you what a bad idea it. was but because of their influence. within institutions we've all been. taught to.

respect that's where the power and. authority comes from it is. auser and we're going to see how much of. an illusion it actually was when men. start standing up and going now not in. my house not in my community not in my. state not in my country you're free to. live the way you want the moment you try. to impose that on me you got something. else. coming and I think when we start doing. that and I'm not talking about engaging. in violence I'm talking about defending. what we care about and doing it with the. same passion and conviction that they. seem perfectly willing to.

do I mean yeah we're not talking about. violence we're just talking about just. do something yeah speak up yeah. like shop somewhere else yeah put your. kids somewhere else. yeah it's it's just sacrifice something. just anything there's so many people. living in this country who just they're. opin they have they have the strongest. of opinions but they've not done one.

damn thing to make this a better place. not one. thing and that's once again you know I'm. it that's for everybody yeah that's for. everybody I'm sure a lot of the critics. a lot of your critics who are on your. same side have not done anything either. oh it's it's. the I I had somebody say something he he. disagreed with me on like some minor. policy. position and.

um he called me a. coward and um I hav't called a lot of. things and there's a lot of things I. don't really care if you call me but um. I was taught at a very young age that a. coward was one of the worst things a man. could be called mhm. and um and of course it's on social. media and I remember my wife looking. over me and she goes did you just. threaten one of your constituents like. what are you talking about she goes I. just read your response I said all I. said was is that I hope he displays the.

same courage in person that he does. online that's it and he backed. down. um but yeah. they I I am tired of this class of. angry. conservative that is always close enough. to see the battle but never close enough. to get any blood on them. y I feel like that's the majority of the. uh that's the majority of the party. unfortunately well the I I will the.

thing that I do find encouraging in all. of this though is that when you do see. well I think we we were talking about. this a little bit. offline um more and more there there's. people that are standing up there with a. different vision of of of masculinity of. being good husbands being good. Fathers um and I think what's important. about it is they have they have. credentials and I don't mean credentials. in the form of. phds um a young man is going to listen.

to you in part not just because you know. you're you're you're heavily influential. in this space of what you do but you. went through things in your life in your. military career as a seal working with. the agency in combat you went with. things that give you credibility on a. masculine level that cannot be replaced. with just a good. argument um and the more men that are. willing to step up and say that yeah.

yeah these are these are credentials. but my desire to be a good husband my. desire to be a good father that's every. bit as important for saving what it is I. want to preserve about this country. and it it almost. um it it provides something for a lot of. men that feel just completely a drift. right now it provides them something to. grasp on to and to Rally. behind if if it's just nothing more than.

to know all right these these instincts. that I have these things that I want. they're not wrong there's nothing wrong. with me I'm not I'm not I'm not the. source of the world's Problems by virtue. of just being a young man. but they need. guidance and obviously you're not going. to be able to show it physically in. person for for every single one of them. but it's about showing them that yeah. once again no those instincts are good. but they have to be honed in the service. of something true and Noble because if.

they're not they're going to find. expression in something. horrible and the fact that I believe. that can. work that's ultimately why I'm I'm not. I'm. frustrated but I don't feel defeated in. any of this I just feel. like you go through certain points in. your life where okay you were in the. military or you were you were in the. teams or you do this and then and then. it ends and it's like what next and I I.

was kind of dealing with that a couple. years ago for a couple years wondering. like you know I thought life was going. to be this and then it changed but it. was okay because it was this I thought. it was going and now it changed and I'm. like. now this is the this is the mission. now this is the mission. now and it's a it's a good one yes it is. yeah well. Nick I just that was an awesome.

conversation man I I really appreciate. you coming out here no it is U it's. entirely my pleasure and um and I really. do I really do appreciate what you what. you do with this I mean that very. sincerely thank you I. don't I'm not even I'm not even sure we. all realize how how important the. conversations are uh because of what it. represents to people that needs to hear. it so so thank you it's my pleasure man.

it really is and um I hope to see you. again oh I really do so I'm sure I will. yeah did you have a good experience oh. yeah BL me too man and uh and I love. what you're doing where can people find. you so uh Nick J freedus uh we kind of. made it simple if you just go to nickj. freedus on Twitter on Instagram on on. YouTube we have a podcast called making. the argument um we do a lot of long form. discussions we try to get a lot of. audience participation in um yeah those.

are those are probably the best areas we. also have um a series on our YouTube. channel we've we've tried. to kind of make some like easy to. understand like 10-minute videos on on. just experience like on raising Raising. a Son raising daughters being a husband. being a father um why you should be. dangerous as a father so hopefully those. things are are helpful well one of my. favorite discussions with this interview. was about fatherhood yeah and uh you're.

a hell of a dad I hope so I just if if I. can ever I'm getting to a I'm getting to. a point where every time I I talk about. memories with the kids like I start I. start choking up and I remember my. grandfather warning me about that he's. like Nick you can get a little bit older. and uh he go the the tough guy stuff's. going to start to crack when you're. talking about your your children and and. he was right he was. right well best of luck to you brother. thank you you too.

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