Michael Yon - Secrets of the Darién Gap | SRS #101

[Music]. Michael Yan welcome to the show man. thanks for having me on I just got in. from the Daran Gap and up in beautiful. Tennessee now yeah yeah I'm sure this is. uh quite the change of scenery for you. it is I mean yeah literally just the. other day we're two days ago we're. surrounded by ngos like International. Organization for migration the main. engine of the invasion man.

well we got a lot to talk about today me. and you have been going back and forth. for what about 6 months now so I'm just. I just want to say thank you for finally. getting here and sitting down I know you. have a lot to educate the American. people on and um I'm dying to get into. this so you have no idea how many people. send me messages you got to go on with. Sean you got to go on I'm like we're. trying you know I'm in the jungle he's. got new family members things going on I.

will get down there with you shortly but. um just got to let my kids get just a. little bit older but um yeah so in this. interview I want to cover the Darian Gap. obviously what is it what's going on. down there I know you have some stuff to. talk about with the border with the. famine the oncoming famine that you're. saying is coming and so I want to just. divulge into all of that stuff and get. it all out there and educate educate the. audience but um let me give you a quick. introduction.

here Michael Yan former Green Beret. American writer in photographer you've. lived most of your life overseas. traveling or living in among almost a. hundred different countries that's man. that's a lot of countries uh served in. special forces in the early 80s became a. writer in the 19 in the. 1990s reported from Iraq and Afghanistan. you've been doing that since December of. 2004 author of Moment of Truth in Iraq.

you've authored six books including. three on Chinese information War which. I'm I love talking about what's going on. between us and China and how that. affects us um reported on the ground. from the 2019 Hong Kong. protest goes on started getting into. reporting on Iraq after attending many. friends funerals where people said what. is being portrayed in the media is not.

actually what's happening there um thank. you for doing that International trips. to report from Iraq Afghanistan Pakistan. Canada Singapore bin the Philippines the. Darian Gap the list goes. on my favorite piece of information. about you is that you provided security. for the infamous pop star Michael. Jackson the Michael the Michael so man. I'll bet uh I'll bet uh you got some. stories from that huh actually all I did.

was my calculus homework at Neverland I. was just learning derivatives and and. that sort of thing I you know I. mentioned to you a story when I was in. Afghanistan after Michael Jackson died I. went out to this Village it was one of. those remote Villages like 50 miles. beyond the electrical line right you. know there's the tree line and then. there's the electrical line yeah and so. and so I'm out there and I said uh I. said to I was with the village Chief I. said do you know Michael Jackson died. he's like oh oh the.

Michael yeah yes we know the Michael. starts doing the beard thing that you. know they do you know re yes the Michael. please tell your people we cry 1 million. postit and tears for the. Michael they love Michael Jackson. they're out there Moon walking the. children everywhere I go whether it's. the Daran Gap or some remote Village in. Afghanistan or Nepal everybody wants to. do the moonwalk the children of course. everybody knows Michael Jackson right. yep but um well Michael before we get.

into the Daran Gap and everything that. you've got to push out about that. everybody gets a gift on the show oh. thank you sir there you go should I open. it now or later go ahead open it. up oh gummy bears I was told you love to. hand out gummy bears gummy bears. vigilance League gummy bears legal in. all 50 states believe it or not it's. just candy made right here in the USA. you can't say about Merry many things. these days right yeah made in the USA.

like we are y you know speaking of made. in the USA thank you sir you're welcome. um uh made in the USA you know you were. a Navy SEAL I grew up with Scott. helvenston uh and we talked about my two. friends that led me to the war or you. know one was old Green Beret teammate. Richard Ferguson he was killed in Iraq. in March uh maybe March 30th 2004 and uh. in toit.

and that within one day of that Scott. helvenston was killed Scott was the. youngest Navy Seal in history actually. I've said this before he was 17 when he. made it through all the buds and whatnot. and people say but it's it. actually was true and we went to school. together we played football together we. worked out together we chased girls. together he was you know again like. gogin level crazy and fit he was a super. stud and Scott made it into unbelievable. and so then uh unfortunately he was.

killed in in in fujo he was one of the. Blackwater contractors hanged off the. bridge and so I went to his funeral in. Florida and I went to Fergie's funeral. my old green ber teammate in uh and. actually I was one of the younger Green. Berets as well at 19 so it was. interesting because we went to the same. high school and a lot of the people from. that high school went off to Delta or. SEALS or whatever it was something about. it like the coaches weren't any like. there was no first and second and third. place place and all it was it was first.

place and losers right that's it and you. know these were very serious coaches. very serious teachers military was. revered uh and and uh and just being you. know an American was revered and still. is right yeah so we went off to the and. so I went to the funerals I went to. Scott's Funeral in Florida and the seals. that were there were like you know the. war the the the journalists are all. lying about the war there were. journalists from all over the world at. Scott's Funeral it was disgusting and I. mean hanging outside his mother's house.

I I was inside of his mother's house and. we were talking and there was like. literally somebody from Japan trying to. you know shoot through the window with. the you know and you know literally all. over the world because it was so. contentious at that time right and then. I went to scy or Fergie funeral in. Colorado and there it was a lot of Green. Berets and that sort of thing and and. again they were saying you should go to. the war and I'm like I'm not going to. the war it's quite dangerous and I'm. busy right doing other stuff but then is. that when Scott was killed in particular.

and his three friends at Blackwater uh. the uh that's when the United States. attacked fua of course and then it. caused a huge amount of people to flood. into the war from Yemen and Morocco and. Europe everywhere who's who in the zoo. it was a Star Wars cafe showed up to the. war so if you look at icasualties.org. you'll see the casualties just explode. at that time and and so as that year. unfolds in 2004 I had another friend we. all went to school together uh you know. Scott was was now gone and another one.

was uh Rodney Morris and we also played. on the same football team with Scott but. he was the first uh ID provos Marshall. first Infantry Division provos Marshall. and he was calling me up every week. Michael when are you come into the war. and I'm like Rodney I love you brother. but I am not coming to the war and. finally what comes down to October of. 2004 and operation Phantom Fury starts. to kick off on fui again cuz remember. after the after the contractors and you. know Scott was killed and then we.

attacked fuah the war just exploded and. now to you know really teach him a. lesson we kicked off operation Phantom. Fury and flattened fua you know really. seriously that time and that's when I. realized hey this is an Insurgency and. that's some I just spent quite a bit of. time out with the maist in Nepal and. that sort of thing I didn't write. anything about it but I spent a year in. Nepal so I mean I was watching these. things right and so uh so that was when. I said said to Rodney Morris the provos.

Marshall that you know went to high. school with I said okay I'll come and so. I went in December of 2004 and uh. immediately there was so much combat I. was actually surprised I I thought it. was in fact at that point I thought CNN. was understating it I mean there was so. many air strikes going on and you know. tracers flying up into the night and. explosions in Baghdad so the first thing. I did was asked um I flew up to toit. where Rodney was and I said what unit do. you have that's in the most combat that.

will let me go with them so I went back. down to bakuba and that's when it. started from then on I just did as much. combat as I could do and I did it for. years and so uh and you know and and. that sort of I was never a you know at. some point people were like you're just. an adrenaline junkie or a war junkie and. I'm like that's not that doesn't fit the. fact pattern I did not go to the war. until three years into it right and then. when I did go to it I went full boore as. our type tend to do and so that's how.

that all started by the way so people. often wonder but that's how it happened. in the special ops Community it's a All. or Nothing way of life there's winners. and there's losers that's right that's. it we don't get second place against. World economic Forum or the Chinese. Communist party we either win or we die. that's what's. coming so Michael I know you've been. down at the daring Gap several times how. many how many times have you been down. there uh well let's say how much time. I've spent there at this point because. I've lost track of times I I noticed.

that with war correspondent work too by. the people that tell you how many times. they've been in the war haven't spent. much time there but but since Biden was. installed I've been there probably 6. months we would have to ask uh uh you. know Panamanian uh immigration how much. time I've spent in Panama but so how. many times have I been into the Darion I. don't know at least 50 uh quite a lot. I'm down there I was just down there. with Epoch times and and um and Laura. lomer was there and Mako gaha from Japan.

marami we we we we're starting to take. groups down there that can call for fire. on on the NOS good for you so before we. get into what you're doing down there. can you give us a basic explanation of. why what the daring Gap is and why it's. pertinent to to what we're talking about. yeah the daring Gap is one of the let's. say Panama let's widen that slightly to. Panama Panama is one of the most. important pieces of land on Earth to the. United States a lot of Americans don't.

get this our grandparents got it you. know for instance Fort Clayton is the. old US Army South headquarters and a lot. of American veterans watching this will. know exactly what we're talking about. right it's been taken over by more than. five dozen NOS mostly un but but the. skipping past the details of that that's. been taken over by our enemies Fort. Clayton is literally one of the most. important little postage stamp siiz. pieces of land on planet Earth for. Americans right outside the windows.

there of I headquarters which is the. immigration International Organization. for migration which is the chief engine. of the invasion is right outside their. office windows in building 10 110 is is. the mirror Flores locks the Panama Canal. and the pan the uh the Panama Canal. Railway which is also important and the. Thatcher fery Bridge the Thatcher fery. bridge is the bridge from Highway one. that goes down in from the Darian Gap. from the edge of the Daran Gap all the. way to prudo Bay Alaska right so in.

other words once you get on Highway one. after you emerge from the daring Gap you. get in buses straight to America. straight shot so in other words from the. headquarters to repeat this the miror. Flores locks are right there you're. watching ships go by I'm watching them. constantly because I I I rent a hotel. right beside them right and uh and. there's the Panama Canal there's the. railway there's the Thatcher ferry. bridge this is amazingly important to. the United States and right behind you. is the old US Army South headquarters.

and they've taken it all the literally. our enemies have taken our headquarters. Jimmy Carter gave away I'm sorry sir go. ahead uh basically what I was what I. wanted to ask is can you explain look we. we are living in a very uneducated. America these days and so can you. explain why it's such a strategic and. important location for the US right. uh many reasons one Loc location. location of course the Panama Canal.

opened up in 1914 and that increased. World Trade uh dramatically right and so. that was 1914 was an important year for. other things that we'll talk about later. but uh so that's important our US Navy. needs to be able to get between the Seas. otherwise we need to if Taiwan comes. under attack and you need to shift Naval. forces I mean you need that Canal to get. through quickly right that's one reason. uh another reason is just the trade I. mean a huge amount of I I can't even say.

how much trade goes through there now. because it's Dynamic like the the Suz. canal and the Red Sea issues have caused. things to change so you know the 6% or. the 11% that you hear you know one month. ago changes by the next time you're able. to check and so uh there's that there's. also it's just a strategic location that. where you can influence or even control. parts of South America Central America. and even North America that's air strike. distance from the United States right.

and so um or missile strike distance as. well but also there's the connection. with Colombia right so Colombia is that. northernmost country in South America. actually Panama used to be part of. Colombia in order to make the Panama. Canal we uh helped uh Panama uh separate. off from Colombia right so it became a. separate uh country right and so um and. and so but now with The dering Gap they. caught the Gap because Highway One the. Pan-American Highway which goes from. Alaska all the way through it ends at a.

place called yav and yav is where. Highway 1 ends it picks up again about. 60 mies later in a place called turbo in. Colombia right and then from there you. can go all the way down to the tip of. South America right so except for that. little part it's it's it's uh it's well. I me you can drive all the way and right. now uh and Vander steel and I and others. have just been down again to a bridge. they're they're going to they're going. to open that road this new new bridge. that they're building they're they're.

opening up a pathway to Columbia and she. just made a little video with her gimbal. in her iPhone and it went viral in Pan. and the panamanians were shocked that. they're opening a highway to Colombia. right but we were you know when I first. was telling Panamanian people that last. year I went you know I was down there at. the dairying Gap at the edge looking at. the bridge I I go down there all the. time because I sensed that they were. going to open it up but there was. nothing in the Panamanian news that I. that I was able able to find or anybody.

was able to find but I kept expecting. they were going to open something up so. every time I would go almost every time. I would go to the daring Gap I would go. to the end of the highway and look for. just mud tracks or anything and sure. enough I went down there and suddenly. there's a bunch of mud and so I went. followed this little thing and I'm like. hey they're buil here it is they're. building a bridge whipped out the Drone. droned it and said this is it and so I. went back up to uh went back up to. Panama City and was talking to some. people in the government and whatnot and. I was like look who who's building that. bridge who's funding it nobody seems to.

know they're like there's no Bridge. being built there I said look at the mud. on my boots I was just there like 8. hours ago do you have video of this oh. yeah I've got tons of videos can we put. it up here right now absolutely. absolutely I've got Drone footage that. we just made 10 days ago I've got Drone. footage from last year and so what is. the significance of opening that road on. that sounds like it's a 60 mile Gap yep. oh then you'll have a open path to South. America which means you know open shot. for Panama is going to get lost you I.

mean when I say lost I mean taken I mean. Panama is basically a country with a. pork chop around its neck and it doesn't. have it's it's got a very professional. Center front center Front is sort of. like sort of their army sort of their. border patrol sort of police we don't. have the equivalent it's kind of all. three they're trained constantly by Navy. Seals us and and uh and also Special. Forces we just saw some of those down. there again and they've been training. them for years so they're very. professional. when you go down there I think you're.

going to be actually uh impressed with C. front but they're not strong enough to. defend Panama not even close right and. they're very professional they've got. you know limited weapons they don't have. any Rockets they've got no anti-aircraft. they've got no anti- ship missiles they. just don't have the numbers they're not. going to be able to defend Panama and so. Panama again that incredibly important. piece of real estate which can be and. will be open to South America by land. and by the way there's a book uh written. by it was actually clearly sponsored by.

Chinese and it was co-authored by a. Panamanian Economist and it talks about. it's a softball book on you know opening. up the Daran and these sorts of things. and and you can see the bi Oceanic. Corridor map and all these different. maps and these are terms people probably. aren't familiar with but the bottom line. is the BR the belt and Road initiative. is something that'll go right through. Panama and this is this is vital. actually it ends up going right through. you know people are just asking asking. me yesterday why is Biden going to.

Brownsville Texas because it's on the. I69 Corridor that Corridor is part of. the corridor that also will go through. the Daran Gap actually bi Oceanic. Corridor and all these different things. it's all about energy it's all about. routes Old Spice routes old Silk Road. all these things nothing has changed. really this you know the the important. routs are the same actually that's why I. often will leave Panama and go to. Netherlands because Netherlands is. another key piece of vital a vital piece.

of terrain right you see the railway. that's been built from Shanghai and. other feeders in China i' I've been to. that end of it in Shanghai I spent a lot. of time I spent about a year in and. around China but there's a railway now. that's been completed goes all the way. across Asia and Europe and it goes right. to through Netherlands to roddam Harbor. roddam Harbor is the uh biggest Harbor. in Europe and just south man yeah and. just so the railway goes So you you're. already filling in the blanks and so.

it's the biggest Harbor in Europe major. trade routes they are infiltrating all. the major trade routes throughout the. world so when you see where I'm at it's. trade routes it's where that's where. they're using this weaponized migration. they're focusing them on key places of. the trade route Brownsville why did. Biden go there well why does Governor. Abbott constantly go to mcgallen it's. along the I69 Corridor which is part of. these trade routes that and it goes all. the way up to to Detroit where world.

world economic Forum also has a. headquarters right not a coincidence and. those feeders come up from New Orleans. so when you look at that map you can see. you can already see a lot of the place. so let's get back to Netherlands just. south of reram Harbor is ANP Harbor in. Belgium the second largest Harbor in. Europe you can troll those two bad boys. and you've got you know and so uh now. they're trying to build working on. something called Tri-State City and. Netherlands Germany and Belgium they.

call it Tri-State because it's the three. states of Netherlands Germany and. Belgium most of Netherlands part of. Germany and part of Belgium will be this. giant smart city that the world economic. forum and CCP have envisioned now every. time I say this on a major show like. yours you'll see the we guys come out. and say that's conspiracy theory and. they'll say well here it is on your. website right you know how this goes. yeah and so and so they want to build. this giant uh and they're working on it. Tri-State City Smart City and so they're.

really hitting Netherlands and whatnot. with with these uh weaponized migration. right the weaponized migration is one of. the tools that they're bringing to Bear. now let's talk about trade routes and. energy right so a lot of this hold up. hold up before we go into trade routes. and energy let's go back to the Darian. Gap here's the situation you've got. China Russia Ukraine the border the bank. Banks seem to be collapsing plus the.

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you're seeing a lot of Russian influence. down there and you're seeing a lot of. different terrorist organizations. congregate down there I have a friend. Sarah Adams who was a CIA targeter who. is coming on here in about a month who's. going to discuss how all of these. terrorist organizations Taliban Al-Qaeda. Hamas they're all Isis they're. all they're forming an alliance instead.

of hating each other they're forming an. alliance you're saying they're. congregating down. there to come up into the US so passing. through not really congregating they. just passed through passed through I. mean right now when we just left it was. about 3,000 a day right 3,000 what um. aliens coming through per day and that. would be mostly Venezuelans um hundreds. of Chinese per day Afghans every day uh. just who's who in the zoo 150 different. countries yemenis uh and of course I has.

an office in Yemen we're starting to. bomb Yemen of course guarantee there'll. be a an increased number of tons of. Arabs you got to keep in mind in. Venezuela there's a lot of hesah right I. mean there's a lot of so there actually. there was a bombing in 1994 in Panama. and there was a airliner or a small. flight going from cologne to Panama City. and and killed 22 I think including 12. Jewish people right and then Within 24. hours of that there was a bombing in. Argentina killed 85 and wounded about.

300 so about 385 casualties right and so. those were hesah the hesah Mastermind in. the Panama bombing uh is believed to. live in Venezuela on and owns a bar on. Margarita Island right I mean people. know where he lives yeah he owns a bar. down there and so but he's he's still. operating and if you the Russians and. and the Chinese and the Iranians have.

very close relationships with with. Venezuela so Iranians can literally pop. in there and get a Visa get a new. passport on arrival not a Visa passport. right so and you've got also hesah there. in Venezuela who speak Spanish fluently. because they were raised in Venezuela. there's a there's a there's a there's a. village in Lebanon where they speak. Spanish it's I think it's called Baal. right it's a a I'm sorry I've forgotten. how to spell it I'm not familiar with. that y they speak Spanish you can look. on YouTube and you can you can see the.

people in the village literally speaking. Spanish interesting why are they why are. all of these I I definitely understand. why I I mean China's obviously there to. take control of the canal of the trade. route correct yep is that is that why. Russia's there Russia has always an. influence they're serious players but. their influence is nothing like China I. mean the the you know the difference is. quite immense right. and uh you know again I've spent a year.

in and around China watching I've. written three books on Chinese. information war that are only actually. only in Japanese I didn't I didn't even. publish them for an American audience. I've been trying to wake up Japanese for. years uh because they're a vital partner. for us as well but the Chinese are doing. so many things for instance they they're. interested in building a canal in. Thailand on something called The CW. ismos I've been down there researching. that you know 10 years ago they're. buying property down there they're. setting conditions to make that Canal. that'll allow them to byass bypass the.

malaka Straits and that sort of thing so. a lot of these a lot of this is about. old you know silk routes and spice. routes for instance you see the the um. uh the Indo-European Corridor that. almost nobody has heard about right the. Indo-European Corridor is a new idea or. at least it's a new idea that people are. energizing that will go from Mumbai over. to uh uh to uh UAE through uh uh Saudi. and Jordan and then come out through. Israel in Gaza in hia right and then off.

to Europe right interesting huh so they. they were talking about this before the. attack before these things happened on. October 7th and the Costa Rican. president and the Panamanian president. flew down in helicopters to one of the. major camps called Las blanas they in. fact they just made some new lzs you can. see in my Drone footage before and after. they they put up these helicopter L's. they landed there they announced that. they're expanding the D in gap they're. expanding from 60 buses to about 200.

buses they're so so when I come back to. the United States and I say well I think. they're going to at least triple the. number of people come coming through. it's not a random thought I mean you can. do the math you know from 60 to 200. buses but in fact we're watching. infrastructure being built in The Jungle. which could make it five 10 times more I. mean so but they're increasing they've. already increased the number of buses. now but but the bottom line is when I. when I when I say these uh the number of. buses to do what what are the buses oh.

these buses for the people who emerg. from the daring Gap I'm sorry I missed. that part I I I'm down there so much I. forget what people actually are not. dialed in on but so as the people as as. they make it through the daring Gap they. get on buses they go to two major camps. after they get out one's called Las. Blancas and the other one's called San. vente San vente is the one I call China. Camp CH China Camp is the one that. mayorcas went to Alexander or Alex. mayorcas went to on April 18th 2022 I.

had waited for him for 4 days he came. down and four Blackhawks landed right in. front of me I didn't actually know he. was going there I just somebody told me. he was coming to Panama so I went down. there and I waited I said well if he. comes I bet he'll land Blackhawks right. here and he did and so when he landed he. went like this far from me right uh. after he got out of the helicopters got. you know in those armored vehicles and. they went to China Camp now. interestingly Alex mayorcas used to be a. board member on something called hius. hius is the Hebrew immigrant Aid Society.

right now mayorcas himself the Secretary. of Homeland Security uh he is a a Cuban. uh Refugee himself of Jewish parents. right mother and father and now he. actually was a board member on highest. which is the Hebrew immigrant Aid. Society now people got angry at me and. said oh you're becoming. anti-semite clown out I don't care say. whatever you going to say bottom line is. I've been a cath I've been attacking.

Catholic Charities for years right but. it happens to be he was a board member. on highest actually the person that. dialed me in on that was Douglas. McGregor he said you know he was a board. member uh you know that Alexander uh uh. mayor mayorcas was a board member on. highest and you can see it on the. highest.org website they congratulate. him for getting the job at Homeland. Security so he moved over they've got an. office 40 M from the front gate of. highest has an office 40 M from the. front gate of China Camp literally.

highest who has a long list of of donors. uh on their website highest.org they're. literally using Jewish money to bring. people in from place like hesa you can't. make up this stuff so when I said that. at a speech in Texas recently people. said oh you're anti-semite I'm like. here's the bottom line when they start. shooting up synagogues and golf course. courses in in Florida and this people. that came through the daring Gap then. you'll start to wonder how did they get.

through and I'll say hiest was one of. them right and so shut them down so. they're you know there's a lot of heat. coming on highest now we were just down. there again they've taken the signs off. their their gate they had a big highest. sign on their gate they've now taken it. down they know that they're being. watched now very closely but the bottom. line is they're these NGS like highest. like Catholic Charities like I all these. people UN in general they are taking. over countries. remember when the crazy people used to.

say that well it turns out the crazy. people were right I used to think they. were crazy now I just think they were. smarter than I am I mean because they. saw it they saw this decades ago that. the UN was going to do this and it. always sounded crazy and it's not. because they're clearly doing that to. Panama they're clearly trying to for. instance remove the center Front. commander and get somebody installed. that is from one of the NOS they're. clearly they've already done it to the. Department of Homeland Security they've. got Alex you know Alex mayorcas is the.

chief there and he brought money to that. camp at San vente you'll see it the. before and after footage of the China. Camp San vente Camp is phenomenal it's. it's a huge difference do you have the. before and after footage I'll give it to. you it's it's it's uh downstairs thank. you so China's there to for a multitude. of reasons one to control the trade. route Russia's there it sounds like just. to have a presence. why are so many Middle Eastern terrorist.

organizations passing through the Darion. Gap why wouldn't they just fly. into Tijana or El Paso and just run. through the Border there what's the. what's what's what's the draw uh very. good question a lot of them do fly in. same with Chinese a lot do actually and. then a lot they just can't get through. for whatever reason but everybody knows. you can get through if you can get your. feet anywhere in South America you can. get anywhere in the United States it's. easy at this point it's a function of.

money that's all it is and so if you got. the money it's easy follow the ant Trail. MH so why are they going to the Daran. Gap though that's what I'm asking. because it's a route that you can get. through I mean you can and again people. let's say Chinese they can get to. Ecuador keto they they'll fly to keto. Ecuador there's whole hotels they've. taken over now in keto right and along. the way in Colombia as well and n coki. and other places right so they have. taken over uh well if you can get to. like for instance a lot of the Africans.

can get into Brazil Haitians can get. into Surinam and Brazil a lot of. Haitians were already in Chile due to. various reasons so a lot of people. either started down there or started. down there years ago or you can just get. there for instance Venezuela will let. you in okay so you're saying that maybe. some of these Middle Eastern terrorist. organizations are having problem getting. into just Mexico in general through some. type of integration process so it's. easier for him to get in down in the.

Darian Gap is that what you're saying. yeah like Venezuela will let Iranians. come in okay and so Venezuela's I mean. you know if you and so that's basically. so that's they're not going to the DAR. they're not coming to the Darian Gap. they're going all over South America. they're finding the easiest countries to. infiltrate down there so that they can. funnel up into the US oh they would. definitely prefer to fly straight to New. York uh but this is the way that some. people can get in some people like some. of the the Chinese can fly straight to. Mexico because they can get a visa and.

so they'll fly a lot of them go to. Cancun and so that they meet their. snakeheads in Cancun Snakehead and and. uh we call them coyotes coyotes but in. Mandarin they call them snake heads so. they're Snakehead there's snakeheads in. Mexico City there's snakeheads in. tapachula tapachula is the Southernmost. city in Mexico it's on the Guatemala. border I've been there right and it's. it's like their El Paso and so there's. snakeheads there there's snakeheads in. Cancun so you got some Chinese that. literally fly to Cancun and they'll go. on vacation like you know chill out and.

then you'll see them come across at Yuma. or whatever right and you'll see the. Chinese coming across at y Yuma or San. Diego or macallen the ones that I mean. I've been all the way across the US. border from SpaceX to San Diego much of. that on the Mexican side and on the. entire American side right and so I mean. I'm quite familiar with that border and. I've seen a lot of Chinese come across. that look like they just got off an. airplane I mean they're wearing night. they're I mean they haven't they're. they're cheeks aren't drawn in from. going through the Daran Gap or some long.

trip right but even the Chinese keep in. mind the daing gap is not the same for. everybody some people take the hard. route right actually right now Oscar. blue is out there uh with Matt tolet. they're they're going in they're they're. they literally landed by helicopter. yesterday they're okay with me saying. this because by the time this airs. they'll be out uh they're right by the. Colombian border right now they're. actually reconning one of the new routes. that the Chinese are using I can say. that now I'm saying this with permission. CU Again by the time this airs they're. out uh but um in fact I'm tracking their.

icons I was just looking at earlier. before we went on they're deep in the. jungle it's a new route but there's hard. routes and there's easy routes the hard. route is like you go from Niki uh. Colombia which I've done this you get on. a boat you go to coer Ghana or that's. one of the main places coer Ghana and. then you enter the derian Gap there. which I've done I didn't go very far in. but we went in there I went there with. Chuck Colton and Mako ganaha we didn't. go very far but we went in enough to see. the entrance right then we came around.

and went to the Panama side but that's. the hard route it goes over What's. called the mountain of death and the. four Crossings and all this that's where. you take the high casualties right then. there's easier routes that the Chinese. and many of the other many syrians as. well and others and Afghans as well. actually they'll take an easier many of. the Afghans take the hard route but. others have a lot of money somehow and. they take the easy route so you get on. these boats and you go to places like. ketto and you go to places like Ana. chukana I've been to all these places. that's in that's with the kuna Indians.

you land and then they only have about 2. days to go through the jungle and it's. easy the Indians carry your bags nobody. gets raped or killed on that route. because they pay so much money so those. routes are quite safe although when an. vandersteel and I were just down there. on this last trip that route was closed. temporarily because uh a couple of boats. capsized and and nine Afghans were. killed so the rout was that that route. was temporarily closed because the Seas. were so high but when it's closed it. doesn't stop people from coming they. either just wait or they take one of the.

other routes okay are you how are you. received down there what do you have a. cover or you just everybody knows who I. am everybody knows everybody knows who I. am all the I'm out with the Indians all. the time I'm out with imra Indians Wan. Indians a little bit and kuna Indians. they all know me by in fact again this. morning I got a message from actually. while while we were together I got a. message from one of the kuna from the. kuna Indian or sorry imra Indian mayor. Francis Francisco agapy he's the mayor.

of 29 Villages of uh imra Wan and his. and that uh what they call comarco which. is a reservation so the most of the. villages that the aliens come through. are his villages right so we've actually. had him up in Washington uh Todd binman. uh had you know helped get him up there. and we had him talking with congressmen. and whatnot and uh and so we've had him. to the United he speaks English fluently. he actually went to school in Oregon in. that crazy place and uh and then. actually went back to Daran Gap where it. was safe uh this is you know you can't.

make up this stuff everybody's talking. about how how dangerous Daren is but he. would rather be back in Darion than. actually in Oregon interesting I've. actually heard that the Darion Gap is. one of the most dangerous places on the. planet it's it's dangerous if you're. Crossing it's dangerous if people don't. want you there those Indians can't I. mean the Indians I'm out with all the. time there's a lot of firefights out. there there's uh you know the center. fronts out there you know getting into. contact all the time and uh and but.

that's on the routes where they pay less. money now when there's so many people. coming in like 3,000 a day the aliens. coming in reach Predator s saturation. right so there's just there's more. people coming in than the Predators have. a chance to do anything about it so so. most of the people end up getting. through without getting raped or robbed. when you're coming through thousands at. a time because there's just not enough. robbers and rapist right this this. bridge that they're building how big is. this bridge. you know how many lanes uh I don't know.

yet how much construction is being built. on it I mean is this like is this like. equivalent to the amount of. infrastructure that China's putting into. Africa building. four eight Lane. highways um you'll be able to get tanks. over it I mean cuz one thing that I was. waiting for was for them to start. putting the abutments in so I could. photograph them and send them back to. some Engineers which I've done is China. building the road nobody says who's. putting the money in it so which. indicates to me it's China because China.

has a way of doing this right so when I. keep asking government people who's. actually paying for this or the nobody. seems to know nobody knows who's paying. for the bridge I'm sure somebody knows. but they they're not coming off with it. how active are they how active is the. construction oh very active I mean it's. like everybody's I mean I literally was. just down there and uh making video over. the shoulder of the of the construction. form looking at the blueprints you know. they're literally they let us you know.

it's Panama they let you a real I mean. does this look similar to here in the US. if somebody's building an overpass or. they work harder down in Panama you know. what I'm saying though is there. excavators concrete trucks tons of. construction workers they're B they're. actively building it they're building at. least two Bridges possibly three so it's. a major project this isn't like some. some sticks no no the sticks project. it's not a river crossing are some of. those but those let me tell you how. those work and when you come down you're.

going to see it okay this is a this is. one that you'll be able to drive tanks. over you'll see the abutments I'll I'll. give you the photos and whatnot or just. bring you and show you but this is one. that'll be this is for very heavy stuff. but when we ask the people building The. Bridge the foreman he's like oh it's for. Yuka for Yuka the food you're. Yuka is like yeah like a you know t72. Yuka I don't know so like I don't know. but you know whatever it's clearly going. to be big enough for tanks you know I'm. not saying that that's what they're.

going to use I'm just saying it's going. to be big enough to take those trees out. of the Jungle because those trees in the. Darian Gap were probably worth billions. of dollars so let's get to that now the. Chinese every year they rebuild a lot of. these small like sort of sticks Bridges. because they're constantly cutting the. trees down even in rainy season and then. when it come and then the when the when. the when the rainy season comes it blows. out all these little Bridges right and. so the Chinese come and they rebuild the. bridge every year and that's part of how. they get the trees from the Indians.

because the Indians want the bridges. open right so they and then the Indians. sell the trees for 20 bucks each except. for the cocaa trees which are like. $2,000 per ton right but there's trees. out there that are probably worth a. million dollar each like the black ebony. trees and whatnot but I keep in mind. trees are like drugs right and they are. worth a lot more Upstream right for in. other words if you have a really high. quality some of these trees that they. have out there when you make chest. pieces out of it and sell those things. this things worth a lot of money it's.

like Ivory right it's like drugs now to. the Indians they're like yeah we got all. these trees millions and millions of. trees you know 20 bucks you know or for. the the more expensive ones the Coco. Bola $2,000 per ton but again downrange. once you get these things out on the. ships where they make stuff out of them. or uh back to China or to the Middle. East where people can use these things. for furniture those trees are worth a. lot of money so keep that in mind as. you're building this highway through the. Darian Gap you're also building access.

to more of the trees I've got somebody. going down there today actually finding. the head of one of the the trails where. they're doing more logging this year the. dry season has just suck how long have. you said you've been going down there I. started immediately after Biden was. installed when I was years yep I was I. was at the I was in Washington for the. inauguration and you saw how quickly. they put up that those trees right I not. the trees how quickly they put up those. fences right so so immediately uh Chuck. Colton and Mako gaha and I flew right to.

El Paso because we thought that they. would start flooding over the border and. from Mexico to elpat and they were and. the border patrol is like wow he's only. been in office for like you know 48. hours and we're getting overwhelmed and. we were seeing it right and then we flew. down to Colombia and we went to the. Daran gap on the Colombian side and then. I started going to Panama constantly cuz. I'm like this is it this is where. they're going to run right up the middle. it's it's going to be so I started going. to spending a lot of time there.

developing networks and and uh. situational awareness figuring this out. were they going to build are they going. to build a bridge here yeah I thought. they would that's why I'm constantly. reconing for the bridge and they just. started the bridge now and uh I mean not. just a bridge but a pathway to Columbia. right so where I'm going with this is. how much have you seen the. infrastructure develop down there. especially when it comes to the Chinese. side oh it must. okay now for just the Daran gap for uh.

the it's got to. be based on what we saw in the last two. weeks I would say five times more what. did you see when you first started going. there when I first started going there I. went to a place called Bahu Chito right. and keep in mind it was not very open I. had to do the normal you. know get make friends with Indians and. that sort of thing I found the chief. Francisco got to know him and he's like. well you should come to bito so so it's.

just me I'm out with the Indians all the. time so mostly for those about six. months I've spent down there it's been. mostly me alone you know basically. setting conditions to you know bring. people down so you see all these. journalists down there now like Ben bwam. and Oscar blue and and Epoch times and. Brett Weinstein AB it was me setting the. runway to bring them all down so so what. did I see back then saw Bahu Chito this. Village about 3 hours by Dugout canoe up.

into the Daran Gap was just like overrun. the that there's 403 people in that. Village at that time according to their. census of embra Indians and sometimes. there would be you know at least equal. that number of aliens or double right. crap everywhere I mean feces everywhere. like Terrible No Water Supplies I mean. literally at that point I went out with. Chuck Holton a couple of times when he. would come down with me and we I said. what do you how many what what do you. think the fatality rate is of people.

coming through on this route and I. didn't you know I didn't want to load. the answer and he said no maybe 10%. that's what I had written down I said. you know I don't know 7 12 you know. something I was like because that's. based on talking with just so many. people coming through how many bodies. they were seeing how many rapes and. murders they were seeing how many people. were falling off the mountain of death. or drowning washing down the river. wrapped up in their tents and that you. know a lot of these people never been by. any rivers they come from cities they. don't know what a flash flood is that's.

a rainforest right and it's in the. mountains you you cross the Continental. Divide when you come through the. mountain of death out in the Darian Gap. is the Continental Divide right so. you're you're crossing the Continental. Divide and and and and they sleep the. the easiest places to sleep are by the. rivers you know how this plays out your. Navy SEAL it doesn't play out well in a. rainforest right so you end up one time. one group that was coming through it was. 40 people and 20 died 50% how what does. the infrastructure look like now so it.

sounds like oh now it's like now for. instance the Indians they used to have. like you know 15. horsepower engines now most of them have. 30 by the way every boat that I've ever. seen in the jungle is all paguas not a. shred of fiberglass if pagua is a Dugout. canoe they literally chop down a sizable. enough tree they takes them you know. like a month and they Hollow that thing. out and uh and then they they literally. make it usually right where it lands the. first part of it anyway and and then. they put an engine on them and if you.

look at the old like I found an old. painting from about I don't know 160 70. years ago and it's you know it's got a. pagua out in the in the jungle in Panama. they look exactly the same except now. they have a motor right and so one of. the ways that the infrastructure has. increased is just going from 15. horsepower engines to 30 which is a big. deal sometimes the people can do two. trips a day with those instead of one. right so I mean there's there's the. there's all these little things that are. incremental there's a lot more paguas.

now than there were before there's uh. they they have uh Theos have made water. facilities there they've put right now. they're building two new camps out or. actually three in the jungle uh that we. know of uh one is at bajo Chito Village. we were just at it like 10 days ago. there's another near bajo Chito Village. which is uh going to I don't know be big. enough for maybe 15,000 people per day. right it's it's quite large and I'll. give you that Drone footage and footage. from the ground and then on a completely.

different River that's called the Rio. tasa on a completely different River the. Rio mrio uh that we call that the China. route uh they're building another new. camp out there as well I mean you're. going to be able to I would say at least. increase by five times so this one this. started out. as camps with almost no infrastructure. no sewage no running water none of that. and now the infrastructure is camps that.

hold thousands of people yeah but. they're more pass through most what's. going on inside these camps oh well they. they limp in from out of the Jungle. except for the Chinese route and they. come in smiling a lot of times out of. that route and because they it's an. easier route and it's you should see. some of the videos I've I'll give them. to you where the where the it's like a. vacation video for Chinese it's like. here we are getting on the boat at Nook. here we are and here we are with the. Friendly Indians and getting in a horse. you know they actually have horses carry.

some of their stuff on the easy route. but what's it like in the bajo chikito. now the rivers are their sewers right so. they don't really have toilets per se. they did just put in some ouses which. stink terribly but in reality they. mostly use the river right so every. almost everybody just defecates in the. rivers Reon reason I'm asking is I want. to know what the growth is like with the. interest in the dairing Gap that's what. I'm getting at the growth on the growth. in the of the infrastructure in the 3. years that you've been going down oh I. would say at least.

um at least five times bigger or more. not let's not just talk bigger but also. there is faster so it's more efficient. as an example in the past when you would. come through baj chido often you might. be stuck there for a week right or even. two weeks I mean there would I would be. out there and people would be like yeah. I've been waiting for a boat for 12 days. or whatever you know and they're like I. want to get on there wasn't enough pad. was now there are right so when you come. out of the Jung you sign in and a lot of. people don't even have IDs nobody knows.

who they are they lost them in the. jungle or they didn't bring them to. begin with right and so now you get on a. praga The Dugout canoe you go about 3. hours so you can literally come out of. the Jungle and get on a praga that day. if you get the timing right but if not. you spend the night and you go the next. morning right so it used to be you might. be stuck there for a week or more but. now you come out of the Jungle check in. go bathe in the river get on a praga. even if it's the next morning now you go. to Las Blancas Camp Las Blancas Camp is. the next Camp again you used to be stuck.

there for a week two weeks now you get. out of the pagua you can get on that bus. so it's more of a bus station than a. camp now the only people that get stuck. there now are people that don't have. money for the bus and they'll keep them. there it's 60 bucks now for the bus from. Las Blancas up to inside Costa Rica so. these are just basically holding camps. holding just long enough to get on the. bus and so in reality for a lot of. people we still we still call them camps. but in reality to be accurate on the.

words we should really start calling. them bus stations SL camps it's camp for. some people or overnight place for. depending on what time of the day you. come and what time but in reality the. buses are running 247 you can get out. the same day and you probably will once. you get out it it's just so much faster. now it used to take you could you know. if you got to Colombia let's say you fly. to bot like there's people that fly from. Istanbul to Bogota every day and then. from bogot it's a bus ride up to Nook. you get on the boat you go over next.

thing you know you're at one of these. camps like Bahu chiko or Las Blancas it. used I mean it could take you a month. easily to get to United States easily. take you a month now we tracked one guy. from Colombia to uh Brooklyn it took him. about uh 10 days and he had a driver's. license he was Chinese right interesting. yeah he had he literally went there and. had a driver's license because a lot of. the Chinese are coming into their own. ecosystem like a lot of the people are. coming in like Planet of the Apes pel. Mel they've got no organization not the.

Chinese man Chinese have a ecosystem. within the ecosystem they come in in. their own pipelines many of the Chinese. are coming up they're growing marijuana. in Maine you can see lots of articles. about it now they're growing marijuana. in Oklahoma and Oregon and California. all over the place they're us growing. huge amounts of marijuana they're. growing they're they're they're. smuggling fentol so hold on I I I know. about this so are you saying that the. Chinese are sending their people down to. South America they're going through the.

Darian Gap up Central America and that's. how they're infiltrating into the US. huge numbers do they really need to do. that or I mean is can they just fly. right into the US a lot fly and others. go through Canada so M some are actually. going to Mexico and taking a boat and. going to Canada so do you know what what. differentiates like if you're. a Chinese National coming to. the us to do harm how do you know. whether you're going to come go direct.

to the US go to South America and up. through the Daran Gap or or South in. from Canada uh I don't know how they. make their determinations uh but they do. somehow some do if if they can fly. straight to Mexico they'll do that. they've told us that many times you know. the people that can't fly straight to. Mexico they have to find another way to. get in some people come in on student. visas I mean they would rather not go. through the daring Gap you know uh but. other people almost all the Chinese can. get through keto but there're a lot of.

them have brand new passports how you. getting brand new Chinese passports you. can see that if you look online you'll. see the Chinese Consulate in Mandarin. what was about a year and a half ago or. so they were saying Chinese uh Nationals. can come and get new passports if. they've lost their passports through. irregular means right so I mean. literally their support the Chinese. government is openly supporting them to. get new P because you know if you go to. the Mexican side and some places there. are burn barrels on the Mexican side. Chinese are throwing their documents in.

right you a lot of the other people just. throw them on the ground the Chinese. they have opsc man they have document. security and everything they they pay. attention to details they you know they. have U they have their own networks. right so the Chinese what are they doing. many are coming for this reason or that. reason I don't know what all they're. coming for but they're they're clearly. mostly military age males right see when. you say military age male that makes. me think that you believe they're coming. here to invade in a fight is that what.

you're saying I think it's pretty. obvious and I think if you come down. with your background I'm not going to. need to say a word I'm just going to. need to take the horse to water and be. quiet and let you watch do you think. that's how tell me what you think do you. think that's what their plan is they. going to it's going to be they don't. hide it they hide it they don't hide it. at all there's a book uh unrestricted. Warfare which you've probably read uh. you know they some of them actually say. it most of them will not but okay okay. here here's one example a guy named this. is about a year this was last year 2023.

so there's this one place that I wait. where they often come out in the dry. season and they emerge at night time and. as you know the best time to get people. to talk is at night time when they're. alone right so there's this one place. I'll wait for them to come walking out. of the Jungle and they come out and uh. and it's on the way to S it's on the way. to the China Camp so they're all walking. by and I'll say niow that sort of thing. well that night masako gaha actually. approach one as did a couple of other. people I was with and they're making. video and this one guy got quite angry.

right and he's like and some of this is. on video and audio right and he's you. know like turn that off turn that off. and one of the guys I was with. unfortunately said you're a spy he just. like blured he a young guy anyway so but. the next thing you know we're sitting at. this table with this guy for an hour and. a half right his name is Luan J he's. itching he's scratching he just came. through um Canam mrio and Canam mrio is. what is the Village deep in the jungle. on the on the that's where most of the. Chinese come through most of the Chinese.

don't go through bio chikito they go. through the different easier route at. Canan mrio and so it's called Canan. Village it's on the mrio river right and. so in Canan mrio there are these bugs. that the embra called moroy I hate those. things I've never seen them anywhere. else in the world they Eat You Alive man. we should Napalm that Village I used to. joke with the embra Indians we're going. to come back and Napalm this why do you. live here these these bugs they make you. they're terrible but he came out of the. Jungle and he's itching and he's.

scratching and he's like he was in that. emotional state right and he actually. had a poncho on and so anyway we get him. at the table get him calmed down he was. very angry and as you know if you can. get him calm down from that emotional. state he just kept rambling for an hour. and a half and he goes uh well he goes. uh uh I uh I went to the Bahamas I. bought a boat for a from a Scotsman for. $5,000 in NASA right and as you know. there's a giant Chinese Embassy in. Bahamas it's a huge Embassy right.

they're clearly using Bahamas we got. people from China coming up on the. Florida shores at Jupiter Beach and. Miami and everywhere else every single. day right and he said he bought a boat. he ran out of fuel he was with his. father and uh and he said he was a drift. his English was very good he I'm. guessing he went to luang which you may. have heard of that that's where they do. their spy school right I'm guessing he. was Ms. Ministry of State security you know they. CIA I'm just guessing I don't know but.

he was very good in English his body. language was good he was like Hey man he. was used you know he was using. vernacular and uh but he didn't he was. he was a little off he wasn't perfect. yet but uh but he was heading to Florida. so he said he was a drift at Sea and um. he said the US Coast Guard picked him up. right and they deport he somehow got. deported back to the Bahamas now I was. able to confirm the Coast Guard. definitely picked him up that was a fact. right so he was. uh somehow deported back to the Bahamas. they were deporting him to China.

connected in Cuba this is what he told. us and he then uh uh changed his flight. and went to keto Ecuador because Chinese. can get through keto then he took the. China route and we intercepted him as he. came out of the Jungle and he look quit. he went on for a long time so and we got. more information about him I got his. phone number we were able to track back. a lot of stuff including what appears to. be a military ID that we got later not. through him through other methods and he.

appears to to actually have been uh an. officer in something and the bottom line. is I'm guessing MSS and that's what some. others guess but I don't know. interesting so let's go back to the the. fighting age males I want to take we're. really in the Weeds on all this stuff. right now I want to lift it up to about. a 30,000 ft view what are they doing. what's the plan uh I think for instance. okay let's rewind a little bit to the. plan keep in mind I have written three.

books on Chinese information where I'm. kind of dialed in on this I've been to. Tibet where they were kind of moved in. and just took it some of it was kinetic. but mostly it was demographic right I. was in Hong Kong for seven months until. they kicked me out during that last. spasm from 2019 to 20 right and so how. did they take Tibet mostly demographic. Warfare they ha Chinese moving in. supplanting the the Tibetans who moved. off to Northern India I've been up to. Northern India talking with them a lot. of Tibetans are in Hong Kong or they're.

in Oregon and California right they're. all over the place with their prayer. Flags but they're gone Tibet is gone. essentially right how did they take Hong. Kong they took Hong Kong again they were. just bringing in like 100 to 150 Han. Chinese per day they were taking over. key positions like professors uh. preachers actually literal preachers uh. uh and politicians of course uh all. policemen you know all the peas you know. and doing the and just slowly taking. over the cockpit and so they mostly did.

it demographically they set conditions. as you know with your background you. know all about setting conditions this. isn't about Sparks and all that this is. about setting conditions and Chinese are. very patient about setting conditions so. they slowly just bring in the. demographic waves just enough not enough. that everybody Rises up and goes crazy. but you fill the bathtub right and so. that's what they did in Tibet that's. what they did in Hong Kong that's what.

they're doing I was just down in. Honduras and I was in a place called. Raton I was talking with a very. interesting guy there and I asked him do. you know anybody in the Honduran. government that's been that's in Ron's. island in Honduras right and I said do. you know anybody who has been invited. somebody from the top levels of the. Honduran government military whatever. who's been invited to China and he said. actually yeah a friend of mine so who. happened to be the top General in the. Honduran military in fact he was like. their chairman of the Joint Chiefs so I.

said oh is he here can we invite him. right he goes no he lives on the. mainland near tusi galpa I said well can. we can you call him up and ask him to. dinner tomorrow night so we flew him in. the next night we had dinner with him. for three or four hours right and he. talked about how he was invited to China. because his grandfather came into. hondurus a Chinese in like 1923 right. and so the what these are called what. they call overseas Chinese right so I'm. going somewhere very important with this. they'll find these overseas Chinese I.

had Mako ganaha sitting beside me that. Japanese journalist who's always Johnny. on the spot and she was uh and you know. we talked about this quite a lot they. always invite you over they'll have a. parade for you they'll show you the. graves of your family and that sort of. thing he's like oh they invited me over. they had a parade for me they showed me. the graves of my. family that's what they do right and. they everywhere I go that's what they do. and they get you one he said he's been. to China I think seven times at this.

point so they those are what they call. overseas Chinese now there's a different. type of recruitment that they there's. numerous different types another type is. uh more archaeological and. anthropological for instance we knew. that there was an archaeological dig. going on in Honduras so that's the why. why we flew to Honduras because the. Chinese are doing an archaeological dig. there and they're trying to persuade the. Mayan Indians that they're actually they. came over on the land bridge and they're. actually Chinese and all these bad white. people came and took your land the.

Spanish wherever the Germans whoever. took your land right but we're all. brothers and sisters we're cousins. whatever but we're all family and we're. going to take this stuff back so. interestingly that that hondur and. general we were talking about this in. detail he goes their plan is not to. attack you and take over the world their. plan is to become the world they're. going to become this demographically. they're going to just slowly that's what. I saw in Tibet that's what I see in. parts of Thailand the place where they. want to build the K ismos Canal Chinese.

are moving down there right I'm seeing. this everywhere I go I'm watching it in. Panama I'm watching it's happening in. Honduras it's happening in Guatemala I. was up in Guatemala looking at the same. thing right and of course the. Guatemalans don't have quite the. relationship with CC with the they don't. have that relationship yet Guatemala. still has a tight relationship with. Taiwan right as does bise in fact we. were makako ganaha had an interview with. the um the Taiwanese Ambassador in. believe a few months ago and I was there. and we were talking about these sorts of.

things and you can see China is slowly. taken all the ponds all the little. squares off the board so that Taiwan has. no diplomatic cover anywhere whether. it's Haiti or or Biz or Guatemala. they've already taken you know Panama. from them and almost everybody else why. is this even important as soon as. there's only as soon as there's no. countries at all that recognize Taiwan. that's it you're closed down you you. can't even travel you know as a. sovereign country anymore you're not.

going to you know CU right now they have. the international cover because you are. recognized by some people right uh but. yeah this is coming it's coming hard for. Taiwan interesting I didn't uh I did not. piece that one together yeah so they're. they're slowly you know bise and. Guatemala are important for various. reasons those are the two countries that. border Mexico on the south right and you. know another thing by the way a lot of. these people that are coming through the. daring Gap they say you know they're. from Nepal and places like that and. India I spent a year in India I spent a.

year in Nepal I spent a year in and. around CH why are all these Chinese. coming through that are like I'm fleeing. persecution and yet they still have such. diplomatic cover from the United States. why is a country that we allow people in. because they claim that their country is. persecuting them or even Prosecuting. them and yet we still treat you know. China like they're our best buddies you. know in trade and whatnot right I can. answer that yeah we know the answer it's. called Elite capture you you know who. Peter schwitzer is what's that you guys.

got to meet do you know Peter schwitzer. I don't know him personally it's totally. Elite capture like that hter in general. I'm talking about right so there's that. there's the there's the elite capture in. that way you know the the there well. there's Elite capture for people that. are not Chinese of descent at all and. then there's the overseas Chinese you. can see films now in the united I read a. book about 3 years ago I guess about. building the trans. the Transcontinental Railway in the. United States and the book was written. by a Gordon Chong and I I I I I messaged.

to Gordon Chang I was with Gordon Shang. the the fox commentator I was with him. in in uh Hong Kong and whatnot and uh. and and and and and uh and so I said oh. this is a great book Gordon I I was uh. surpris I didn't know you wrote this he. goes oh that's the other Gordon Chang so. I was like okay that's interesting cuz. the book was all about basically how the. Chinese were so important in building. the Transcontinental Railway now I'm. going somewhere with this you can find. if you go on YouTube you can find a. video where this this this Chinese.

forest ranger at Yellow Stone is saying. well the Chinese built the road here. they're basically setting the conditions. in the Chinese Minds that America's ours. all the people that came through on the. bearing Straits they're saying that's. ours all the Navajo all the you know all. the everybody all the Indians whether. it's imra kuna Apache it doesn't matter. they're saying they are old descendants. of Chinese and This Is Our Land from the. top of Alaska all the way down to the.

tip of South America all the Americans. are Chinese and you see them moving in. everywhere becoming these places right. slowly supplanting the local people. brainwashing El we were just in El. Salvador in San Salvador right I always. go to libraries I always go to museums. I've been to museums all over the world. Malaysia Indonesia long list I'm looking. for Clues on the information always. watch your your enemies information game. right you know I mean it's it's pretty.

public now I mean you saw what they just. thrw a. huge ceremonial parade in California. when jiing ping came you saw that I'm. sure yeah I was publishing way in. advance that they're going to make San. Francisco their capital in the United. States I published this many times I. said on and that's why I go to San. Francisco sometimes I know that's where. they're going to do it on top of that. correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty. sure I just read an article the other. day that California just elected its.

first noncitizen government official who. happens to be. Chinese yeah you you seen that no but. you see these Chinese police stations. all over the world like we've been to. one in Dublin and London and they're in. the United States they're everywhere. right yeah what what do they say if once. once it hits 40% of the population that. it turns they make their own laws make. their own rules it'll be less than 40. with those guys CU yeah I mean because.

they're already they already the Chinese. Communist Party demands Allegiance with. anybody from with Chinese genes right. you know again let me go back to. something I was going to say and then. I'll go into this I I could literally go. on I could teach a university course on. this I've written three books on it. right I mean the we were just up in in. uh in s Salvador the capital of El. Salvador right it's a safe place I. recommend people go there on vac vaction. uh but one thing that's quite. interesting though is all these people. from these places they say are War torn.

or impoverished they're they're passing. by Starbucks there's we were in s. Salvador there was a Starbucks on one. side of the street and on the other side. of the street I'm like so all these. impoverished people are going through. all these countries that Americans move. to right Americans moved to Panama and. Costa Rica and a lot of them actually. moved to Honduras believe it or not and. and now people are moving to El Salvador. but all they're all pass through all. these places right but um but uh anyway. I I let me tell you about the the.

library I was going to mention I always. go to uh libraries museums. archaeological digs because this is. where you can pick up the trail head on. information War right and so. um in El Salvador in San Salvador. there's there's a new library it's not. quite finished but you can get into it. it's seven floors right and so we waited. in line for about 45 minutes there's a. Chinese Communist Party flag wait CCP. flag waving right out front I mean it's. right at the top right next to the El. Salvador flag right and uh we went in.

there and it's 7even floors and I kept. asking where's the section on like. physics and engineering and time. management MBA stuff you know what I. mean history and you know finally we get. to about the sixth floor yeah sixth. floor but mostly it's just video games. and that sort of thing and so you have. to get what's called a key to knowledge. that's the library card so if you want. to check out a if you want to play play. the video games like they have all these. video games like Batman and Game of. Thrones and all this child stuff right.

and but if you want to play the video. games you have to read a book for 30. minutes and then they'll you know credit. your key to knowledge and and then you. can go play the video games for an hour. you know as you can imagine whatever. book they put in your hand and they say. you you have to take some little test on. the book and you know there it's Library. Warfare I call that Library Warfare. there's a museum Warfare archaeological. Warfare I just call it these things. because there's no name for it and I see. it all over the world they'll come in. and they'll say like the archaeologists.

that are now in Honduras and they'll say. Hey you know well look this look at. these these pots and potteries these are. this is what was made you know when I. was in Tibet you know this is what was. made what back in China so what are the. what is is the archaeological Warfare oh. they try to persuade you that you're. here's how it works uh they'll come in. and they'll you know dig some stuff up. and say wellow this is actually you know. from so and so back in this is from this. era in China and actually you are part. of us and they you know have these.

genetic test and and then and then they. start bringing them in like you're. actually our cousins you helped build. the Great Wall of China you did all. these great things and da d da and then. these and and then you came across you. fought your way down you know and and. survived like you know basically good. Chinese and then these Spanish people. and conquistadors and whatnot came and. took it away from you right this is our. land we were the first ones here right. that's how they that's how they roll and. what was the other one you had the.

library archaeological and what was the. other one there was three museum museum. and statues as well so what they'll do. is let's say with statues because this. works the same way as the archaeological. like statues they'll put up a statue. somewhere like say a comfort women. statue in Glendale California now the. Koreans are running that but I've been. there quite a lot any that's a and but. they but they'll come and they'll. they'll put up a statue they'll get a. lot of press around the statue right. there'll be a website for it they'll. raise money for it they'll start. bringing journalists there like if you.

go to jedu Island down in South Korea. there's a big island off of South Korea. called jedu Island they got these big. museums there I've looked at them they. bring in entire plane loads of. journalists come in get them all Saed up. drunk you know and take them and show. them the museums and and i' I've watched. them do that you know it's it's just. amazing they literally will invite a. bunch of you know all all inclusive you. know come on down from Soul or come in. from Japan come from Los Angeles come. and see you know come and visit you know. uh Korea and so now they've got all the.

journalists and they take them to the. museums and the next thing you know. their articles come out and and you know. how this goes it's it's the it's the. Mocking Bird thing right or I call it um. you know C CA crows right and all the. journalists are like ca ca one goes C CA. you know basically everybody's. you know they're like flies that eat. each other's vomit right as one sergeant. major in Iraq said these journalists are. like flies they all eat each other's. vomit you know there's a lot of Truth to. that so let's go let's go let's move to. Maine now you were starting to talk.

about how Maine is being taken over by. Chinese marijuana Farmers what is going. on there yeah well you can look it up. and there's a lot of Articles coming out. now and uh they've uh I mean us. authorities I think have reported uh. nationally they may have captured. 700,000 lbs of marijuana last year from. from uh I could be wrong with that I. should be careful but they've captured a. lot of uh marijuana from Chinese last. year right what do you mean c it's legal.

up there yeah but there's I don't know. the let me be careful I'm going to I'm. going to run quiet on this but the. bottom line is there's a lot of problems. with the Chinese right and so and and. and and uh and it's it's increasing like. they're they're growing marijuana. everywhere right now it's a cash crop of. course so you can you can run your you. can run your war on this look at the. Opium in Afghanistan right I wrote a. series of dispatches I think it was two. or three in 2006 in Afghanistan called. the perfect evil right and it was all.

and if you read my 2006 dispatches from. Afghanistan I left Iraq I went to. Afghanistan and I would go back and. forth between those two Wars but as soon. as I steep foot in Afghanistan in 2006. back when everybody thought we won the. war you know it was clear that we hadn't. won the war and I and I start and and. and I published those articles called. the perfect evil where they're using. that the the the Opium money to to run. the war right it's an old formula right. actually when you talk to the Afghan. Farmers I spent two years in Afghanistan.

I spent a year alone and I spent a year. with us British and Lithuanian and other. forces right so the year that I was. alone I never got shot at by the way. when I was alone everybody would say. you're crazy and I'm like guess what the. only time I get shot at is when I'm with. you I have never been shot at alone not. even once you know and so who's crazy I. mean I'm with you and the the vehicles. are on fire upside down you know and so. but I'm I'm I'm alone out with these. people and I'm going to their farms and.

uh and and they're just farmers and you. you talk with them and they're like we. would rather be growing grapes we would. rather be growing pomegranates why. aren't you growing pomegranates I'd. always ask them the same questions there. are specific reasons for it back during. the Russian war they destroyed many of. the Carz systems the cares systems are. the underwater underground um Water. Systems they're Aqueduct sort of not. aqueducts but they're underground. they're very diff ult to build it's very. sophisticated right so if you're flying. over Afghan on the ground it's easier.

when you're flying over you see those. little ant hills right they look like. ant hills they're like you know the the. single whole ant hill that has like a. crater those you'll see them they're. lined those are along under and they'll. come from from like a draw in a mountain. right or a valley because that's where. the water collects they will build those. they can be 50 Mi long right and when. the holes are closer and closer together. that means the underground river is more. and more shallow right so those caress. systems though they can go miles right.

and that's why you see a lot of these. Villages way out in the middle of the. desert and there's no River around. because they got a Carz system which. could have taken literally a century to. build right uh and so so they'll have. you know they'll get the first Village. and then over time this it just gets. longer and longer right so the Soviets. came in you can use these caress systems. to store weapons or to you know travel. four miles and go shoot somebody and. then go back into your hole so I found. this Soviet manual uh and it was showing.

how to you know destroy czes they're. easy to detect I mean they're really. obvious right and actually some of the. Afghans use them as air conditions they. have the house built right on top of it. the thing air conditions their house. their houses are more air they're more. comfortable than a house in Florida. right I mean you can't make up this. stuff they know how to live out there. but the so the Soviets came in and they. were blowing up these things and they. were they were cuz if you blow up that. corre system you're you're actually uh. destroying you know a lot of their. pomegranates and that sort of thing and.

often they would also cut down their. pomegranates they would cut down their. their Vineyards and whatnot and so then. they started growing opium they started. growing opium because it uses I think. onethird of the water if I'm accurate. the DEA guys would be able to fact check. me on that I think it's about oneir. they're much more hearty it's also a. cash crop right now if you're growing. grapes they make more money on grapes. which they turn into raisins usually. their grapes in Afghanistan are unbel un. believably good but they they but you. know with th with with let's say if you. grow tomatoes you have to pick the.

Tomato sell the Tomato right and it's. worth that much right but if you make if. you grow opium which is harder they. don't like to do it and they don't make. as much money actually the farmers don't. make as much money but now you've. already cut down their pomegranate trees. you've cut down their Vineyards you've. messed up their Carz systems right and. so they start growing opium and so uh. and also with the Opium the the value. density this much opium that's worth a. lot of money this much Tomatoes is or. grapes is you know not worth as much and.

so so they but uh but it's worth as it's. worth more to them locally but as you. know on the value chain as you sell that. opium up the chain it ends up on the. Streets of London a lot of people make a. lot more money on it it can fund the war. blah blah blah blah blah right so that's. why they do the Opium that's why I wrote. that series of dispatches called the. perfect evil because even as you know. the more these drugs like fentol that. you flood on the streets the more people. want it it creates its own demand it's a.

perfect evil and then you use that to. fund the war you literally destroy the. people while you're funding the war and. that's why I keep mentioning the people. that are pushing marijuana and whatnot. out there they're literally doing the. job for the Chinese right they're. literally like helping them fund the war. against us there are literally people. thousand thousands of Americans are. dying every month from from fanol. poisoning and and the Chinese are doing. that Jason Jones is a good guy to talk. with about this uh Jason Jones is quite.

uh dialed in on this actually I don't. know if you know Jason oh we've covered. this this portion extensively on this. show several times where we talk about. how China's bringing in chemists to. teach the cartels how to make the. world's deadliest fent andol they're. sending in the supplies they're doing I. mean they they've built the. infrastructure they will lit you know. this better than any body I don't need. to tell you but some of those other guys. don't quite get it right and uh and we.

got the weaponized migration which will. kill us in and of itself regardless of. all the other stuff that will kill the. United States that's a kill shot right. we've got the chemical warfare go we got. the economic side which is quite serious. right we've got you they can cut off our. electricity I think I mean we've all. talked about that a lot we're obviously. quite vulnerable on a lot of different. fronts not to mention these smart cities. uh that you know the the fascist state. which we clearly have now uh is growing. and again go back to Netherlands they're.

clearly using the weaponized migration. you see Soros by the way before he was. Mr open borders was Mr all drugs should. be legalized it's not a coincidence. right yeah this is literally weakening. our base so that we can be attacked. right also the drugs and whatnot make. you much more vulnerable to information. to brainwashing right like for instance. you look at 1984 Soma right you read the.

book rape of the Mind from 1956 from a a. Dutch uh psychologist named juice Merlo. right he talks about that you if you see. what happened during the pandemic. lockdowns couldn't go to church couldn't. go to weddings couldn't go to funerals. couldn't get with your families but you. can go get all the alcohol you want you. can smoke dope all you want because that. makes you more vulnerable to the message. right if you're going to train animals. if you're going to train people you want. to separate them from their their power. base yeah let's um Michael let's take a.

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the break and now I want to dive into. some of the stuff you've been talking. about a famine coming and setting the. stage so I know this goes back to your. time in the Netherlands how does that. tie in right or actually yeah that's why. I went to Netherlands uh now in in 2020. that was the first time I started. warning about potential famine because I. could see conditions were starting to be. set for that right and it's all about.

conditions you noticed this in 2020 oh. yeah I I was publishing it like almost. daily back then to get ready for it uh. get ready for famine because it's. clearly conditions are it's a long flash. to bang uh and so I've been studying it. quite a lot I read a couple dozen books. on it now and on famine I read more than. 60 on uh on pandemic but I'd read about. 40 before the pandemic because pandemic. famine and War they go together they're.

triangle so you see patterns you see and. if you get a big war you always get. famine and you always get pandemic if. you get a big p i mean a big one if you. get a big pandemic a very serious one. you'll always get famine and War right. they just go together like the triangle. of death so I was talking about this in. this interview and uh a reader she. called up she was kind and she's like. you you talk about this as if you made. it up and I said I did she said no it's. in the Bible the four horsemen right I. was like yeah you're right I I literally. have plagiarized the Bible like if.

you're going to plagiarize I guess go. big but I mean but they knew it 2,000. years ago so all these patterns. nothing's changed I've started to look. at the Bible as like a survival manual. you know you and me both I mean. seriously it's like it was it's all. there nothing's new Under the Sun right. I mean it's a lot of the stuff that's. happening today yep is talked about in. the Bible it's just back down it's it's. there you know it's like you know they. the only thing they didn't have was. iPhones or something but they saw the.

human patterns they knew the human. behaviors the the pursuit of of money is. the root of all evil how's that you know. I mean the huge amount what we see the. problems now is people just going for. the dollar right I mean it's all there. right and so yeah so I saw the as you. know it's about conditions you know when. you people you know amateur hours often. people people are asking me what will. the spark be that does such and such and. I don't mean Amateur hour in a. diminutive way but I'm just saying you.

know one thing I learned when I was in. the military is uh I was fortunate. enough to be in the same sort of unit. that you were and we were around very. serious officers and ncos and they were. a lot of them were serious history Buffs. right and what would they often say it's. all about conditions set conditions for. success or you're setting conditions for. failure and and you and it's not about. Sparks it's about it's a spark that. caused the War it's not or a spark that. you could have a 747 filled with fuel.

crash into the dairying Gap today and. there's not going to be a forest fire. it's going to burn a big hole and it's. going to burn until the fuel's gone and. it'll be out there's no conditions for a. giant forest fire in the Darian Gap. it'll just be gone and so but if you. know but some little kid with a bottle. rocket in California you end up with a. town burning down from you know a. cigarette right it's a about conditions. it's the same with the famines that are. coming now let's rewind in. history as you know today we have a lot.

more technology than we had in the past. I mean that's to State the obvious and. one of those is nitrogenous fertilizers. now as the populations on Earth grew uh. people started using for instance. fertilizer they used used to use guano. bird guano in fact we had a uh forgotten. the name of the ACT but there was a a. sort of a guano Island act I've. forgotten the name of it but if somebody. found an island that was you know mostly. guano anywhere in the world the US. military would come with full force and.

guard that Island because we would use. that there was I mean there was wars. fought over guano right because that was. the original nitrogenous fertilizer. right so now as populations grew and we. cut off Germany from uh from from guano. and whatnot and by the way guano is. believed to be what caused what led to. at least the Potato Famine in Ireland. that started in roughly 1845 people. argue about that but and ended in maybe. n years they argue about when it started. and ended but it it may have been some.

sort of uh disease that was in the B. guano but this is unclear but that's a. separate story but the bottom line is. the Germans as you know are quite. serious about science and they have been. for a long time and they had serious. chemists and one was named Fritz hobber. and Fritz hobber in 1903 wrote a book on. uh he thought that you could take. hydrogen off of the Natural Gas this is. very important and you could combine it. with the nitrogen that we're breathing. and make ammonia right and with that.

ammonia you could make explosives right. and you could make fertilizers and so. both right so but it was very difficult. to do it so he theorized it in that book. on th thermodynamics and then in 1903. and then in 1908 he actually made a. little bit right and but it was. difficult see he was a good guy at. little stuff but not so that's when Carl. Bosch came along Carl Bosch is another. German chemist and he was able to take. that really smart idea and make it. industrial that's why it's now called. the hobber BOS.

process H Fritz hobber came up with the. idea Carl Bosch took it corporate and. they started at ludick hoffen Germany at. BASF plant right the BASF plant BASF is. the this is really important so I hope. everybody's paying attention because. this is all going to come together the. BASF plant at on the Rin River dumps out. at Rotterdam and uh interestingly so.

that they started making the nitrogenous. fertilizers there in 1914 right same. year the Panama Canal opened right. coincidentally and so the population on. Earth started to explode partly because. of increased trade the ships were bigger. the ships were faster the trains were. bigger train Refrigeration all kinds of. things but a huge one was nitrogenous. fertilizers right so other companies. started to make nitrogenous fertilizers. a huge component of these nitrogenous. fertilizers though is natural gas.

because you need that hydrogen right you. can make it other ways but in reality. it's natural gas right and so uh now I. one of the reasons I've been so accurate. on the wars and that's what I'm actually. known for is being accurate way ahead of. time is because when I was a kid I was. pretty much addicted to physics right I. always thought I would grow up to become. a physicist and somehow I grew up to be. in the daring Gap but you so it's kind. of a it's only in America can you do. these like wild go around Pluto and loop.

back and land on Mars you know and so. and so um but that that you know trained. my way of thinking right reading people. like Richard Fineman and whatnot and all. these physicists and and and you know. not teaching you what to think but how. to you know uh to develop ways of. thinking that you can try to arrive at. truth right that's why I love physics so. much actually I started loving chemistry. and I was like n that's just chemistry. physics is where I can find the truth. right and so and that's why I spent so.

much time on that and um but one of the. things I've learned from Reading those. guys so many years especially when I was. younger was if you have a theory I call. it the Paradigm and it's inaccurate then. you either have to tweak it or throw it. out right never get emotionally stuck on. your ideas right there it's just an idea. man that's great advice just for every. everybody today yeah I mean I learned it. from those old physicists they would be. like you know so and so got stuck on his. idea and basically became a worthless.

scientist you know what I mean because. he became emotional about his idea it's. like you have to be and Einstein never. got that way to my knowledge I read a. lot of his work and he he never got. stuck on his ideas he was always like. you know I'm probably wrong I might be. wrong about gravitational lensing or. whatever he turned out he was completely. right about gravitational lensing and. these sorts of things right and uh so. anyway um so I I just learned how to and. so I would write I when I was a teenager. I would write down what's what's the. percentage chance that I think you know.

I don't know that bird's going to take. off the next five minutes based on the. time of day and all this stuff and I'm. just like I don't know 70 you know you. know and I would just start training. myself to to you know over time I'd done. that a lot to the point where I was. starting to get a little bit better at. actually guessing things so I thought. that the the Daran Gap might open up and. now it is right I thought that they. might tear down the wall and on the. border and I started publishing this. immediately when Biden was installed now. they haven't torn it down but what they.

have done is just leave it open. basically it doesn't exist anymore right. and all of this was accurate based on. the Paradigm now the Paradigm I also. thought they will something will happen. to nordstream so I went to BASF twice. right and on the second time we're doing. a tour of BASF and I asked the guy what. happens if nordstream gets interrupted. now keep in mind I had bought an iPad. that was on a website that did nothing. but watch the Flows at nordstream and so.

you could see minute by minute it would. update the flows right cuz I expected if. my Paradigm was right that that natural. gas would be interrupted because I think. they're trying to put us in famine right. and so we're in the plant at BASF in. Ludwick Hoff in Germany I said to the. man that was giving us a tour what. happens if nordstream gets interrupted. he said BASF is dead well it's not dead. because shortly after that months later. it was bubbling to the surface of the. sea right and how did I get that right. why was I publishing in advance.

something may happen to nordstream and. then it happened everybody's like how'd. you get that right do you have something. to do with it nope I just that's what I. think was going to happen this this is. that article out there no I would just. put it like on Twitter and that sort of. thing so we can find it on Twitter oh. yeah you can find it on interviews that. I did why was I even at BASF you know. what I mean twice you know because there. that's where be that's where the hab BOS. pres okay so now last March I was in uh. Netherlands again they had elections and.

then I went to groaning in gas Fields. that's the biggest gas field in Europe. is in Netherlands and I was publishing. last March April and so I think they're. going to close gring and. gasfield and people are like you're. crazy they're not going to close that. they closed it it's now closed why did I. get it right not by going through every. little fact and trying to figure out if. he's right she's right skip past all. that nonsense you'll get confused it's. confusing what does the Paradigm predict.

that they're trying to put us into. famine if you're if I'm trying to put us. into famine I'm going to start turning. off all those natural gas switches I'm. going to reduce the nitrogenous. fertilizers now going into famine. there's many things that can cause. famine that can lead to famine there's. different types of famine uh for. instance uh you don't really. interestingly I found in a 1911. encyclopedia britanica people can find. this it's a 1910 1911 I think is is that. addition I found it in a in a friend's. home in in h Texas and I went right to F.

for famine I wanted to see what they. were saying about it this is before Hab. BOS process was on we're talking 1911. remember 1914 is when that actually. started and this article is very well. written but it goes and it talks about. well the big famines are probably over. probably won't be any more big ones now. because we have faster ships bigger ship. ships these sorts of things bigger. trains faster trains um but uh but what. they were wrong about was how evil man.

can be because the biggest famines have. been man-made like by Stalin and the. hore like by Mau by so many of these. famines the 1845 to 1854 famine in. Ireland was not all about the fungus and. the black potatoes right A lot of it was. caused by the English cutting them off. often times when you get into famine. you're all these other conditions happen. and then your enemy exploits the you. know cuts off your ports so with the.

famine that's coming what do you advise. people do to get ready for it well one. thing's for sure it's not going to be. easy uh and especially if you live in a. major city uh you know one one Dutch man. that survived the uh hunger winter that. was the hunger winter of 1944 45 he said. you know it doesn't matter if you have a. rifle because they're going to come at. you with you know 10 20 men with rifles. right you're not going to defend your.

food with a rifle you know it's just not. going to happen uh you're going to have. to well you're going to have to be. prepared in some ways one of the things. you'll find in famines is people hide. food uh actually the um the the the KGB. seems to have been a derivative of. actually Stalin looking for people. hiding food believe it or not in in. Ukraine believe and in the hore it's. interesting because people found so many. clever ways to hide food you know they. would have a a garden that really.

doesn't produce much but underneath it. that's how they cover up the bearing you. know the digging and that sort of thing. but um uh and actually uh the bottom. line is is everybody is going to have to. have a different solution I mean if you. live in Manhattan I think you're crazy I. mean because you know straight up I mean. what are you going to do in man Manan. when everybody's. hungry I mean people go to cannibalism. within two weeks easy uh not everybody.

some people starve to death and never do. it but others go straight to it. instantly and uh and uh and a lot of. these people coming in by the way. through the Daran Gap I mean these are. people that come from places where they. do they still do by the way cannibalism. does still exist on Planet Earth I. assure you you I don't have to assure. you you know that but but a lot of these. people coming in are not quite the same. as the people your neighbor uh and uh. and and and and and the moment they get. hungry they're coming into your house. right or the moment almost anybody gets. hungry they're going to be coming into.

your house yeah once desperation it's. everybody's going to have to have their. own solution uh but it's going to have. to be Community Based you know you I. mean one of the things um one uh retired. military man told me uh down in Texas he. started to arrange his community around. his church he went to church and he. started taking an invent of everybody's. skills like you know what do what do you. you know how to do roof you know how to. do plumbing you know how to do electric. what whatever right so that way.

everybody knows who knows how to do what. and P starting pulling pulling them. together as a community working with. radios figuring out how to keep. communication with each other and that. sort of thing all the all the stuff that. would take to make a small community. right and uh one one older woman she's a. widow she she's like I don't have any. skills I just raised my children and my. grandchildren and my great-grandchildren. he's like yeah you've got well if you. raised that many generations of kids you. got a lot of skills and and uh and she. he's like no just tell me what what how.

did you raise them she's like well I can. food and he's like that's it all right. you're you're in charge of canning. operations you know so what I want you. to do is tell me what you need tell me. everything you need and and then I'll. get it I'll make it appear and you start. teaching the young people how to can so. set up a community that's right and just. like everybody has something if their. heart's in the right place have a job. right and and but it then it takes the. leaders obviously to pull them together. and get everybody you know working in. their right ways and that sort of thing.

and but you're you're not going to make. it through without a community right. yeah and and you're going to have to be. able to defend yourself obviously but we. have a predatory government one another. thing that I've noticed in famines and. this is important is um the governments. always go after the farmers they and. every every famine I've read about they. always they always blame the farmers too. they always say oh it's the farmers you. know it's the Amish people's fault for. something you know what I mean it's. whoever's fault they're the ones gouging. you for prices or whatever right and.

then they come and then they take over. those facilities and nobody can knows. how to farm like the farm that's one of. the things I want to say one finish what. I was thinking uh about the Dutch a lot. of those farmers who have been farming. or fishing that land or water for so. many years they know exactly when to. plant like you know well when the last. snow melts in that little crease over. there that's when we plant you know it's. a very local knowledge and that's one of. the ways they get such uh high. production from the land first of all.

it's partly scientific you know. increased you know uh scientific methods. but they know their patch of turf very. well you know when the Crickets come out. it's time to do X you know what I mean. it's very but if you take them away from. that land they're not going to be as. good a farmer if you put them in Kansas. they're still going to be a good farmer. I'm sure but you know what I'm saying I. do they got to fight their own. terrain so for the people that are. listening that we've just scared the.

hell out of with the famine best thing. is for them to build community build. community definitely and you need enough. you need a way to defend yourself and. and again I mean if you live in a city I. don't know what advice to give you other. than get out yeah I. mean would that cause the the cities to. empty out I look what's h look look. who's moving into New York people that. don't speak English they don't even know. how to flush a toilet I assure you you.

know I spend most of my life in these. other countries and some fish don't mix. well in the same aquarium there's. cultures that just don't go well. together right y bottom line you know. you put a you know some sort of fish. with the Goldfish bye-bye goldfish yeah. you know and and that's what's going to. happen well get out of the city but um I. hate to say it but I mean that's what I. would do yeah well Michael I just I. really appreciate everything you're. doing you just gave a ton of knowledge.

especially when it comes to the Daran. Gap what the CCP is up to and the. oncoming thing and uh I just want to say. thank you for coming here and getting. the info out means thank you for being. so patient it was as you know kind of. challenging to get our schedules to meet. up but I've been trying hard and we did. it well worth it well worth it but um. and I hope to get down there with you. soon down there verying Gap all right. brother be.

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