Michael Herrera - US Marine Encounters UFO Black Ops Human Trafficking Operation | SRS #66 (Part 1)
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Michael Herrera. Sean. Welcome to the. show, man. Thank you for having me here, brother. It's an honor. It's an honor. the honor is mine, dude. I like. Seriously, there's so many people that. are pivotal in this. environment, I should say, that you've. placed in this chair. that have made other people. uncomfortable with what they've talked. about. Um a lot of people who understand. not all is what it appears. So, hopefully I get to add to that and. share with the rest of the world at.
least in the sense of what you're doing. because. like I told you, I'm not talking to. media about this. Well, I appreciate it, brother. Well, you're all about the. truth these days just as much as I am. and and it's ridiculous how much is. being concealed for a narrative and. frankly I'm disgusted with it. I am, too. You know, we try to do. a number of things here and the things. that I really I try to do is document. history. from our military heroes cuz nobody else. is doing it. Bring truth, uncover.
corruption, and bring hope. We bring a lot of hope, you know, a lot of guys that are. struggling and women, you know what I. mean, that are struggling and. overcoming. all that drama. That's That's what we. try to do here, but. and with you, we're bringing truth. Yes, we are. So, And out of that, I want to bring hope, too, you know. It's not just with what I'm dealing with. amongst the other people here that, you. know, have amazing stories, too. As much as it. sounds outlandish and don't get me. wrong,
I think, you know, I can agree to that. at least with the outside perspective. You know, because my before my event, I. was actually very skeptical on it. I'm. like, "Oh, that doesn't exist. ETs don't. exist. Aliens don't exist. It's only out. of movies and stuff." And it scared the. [ __ ] out of me when I was a kid, you. know, some of those movies. But then this event um. changed my life in that degree because. it confirmed a lot that day. All of it. Oh, yeah, confirmed um. multiple facets, not just with, you. know, the technology aspect of it, but. just the level of corruption and how.
deep this thing goes, you know, and. needless to say, it's something that it. was a catalyst for other things to at. least kind of change my life to start. not looking into it with directly, but. just can try to go deeper. What actually makes things happen. Yeah. You know. So, Well, let me give you a quick. introduction here real quick. Yeah, go for it. So, Michael Herrera, you were in Indonesia in 2009. You had a. UAP/UFO. encounter. Uh you're You were a US Marine Second.
Battalion Three Fifth Marines, yes, and. you were at Operation Ketana, correct? Yes, and Ketana was in the Philippines. and that's we didn't participate. anything that. We actually got routed to. go to Indonesia in that take. We had. only ship. Okay. a lot of people are getting confused. with that. Um the rest of the Seventh. Fleet stayed there and we were the only. element to actually go. to Indonesia, far western side of. Sumatra. We'll get into all that. Yep. Before we do, everybody that comes on the show gets a.
gift. Uh-oh. Yep. Yep. Any Any guesses? Uh as long as it's not. an explosive device, I think we'll be. fine. listen. Make sure it's not ticking. Ooh. Well, it's not ticking. Let's see what. we got here. It's our uh. Ooh. Vigilance Elite gummy bears. I got some stickers, man. Nobody else. has these stickers, by the way, too. Nobody else does. But uh Wow. I don't know. Fortunately or. unfortunately for you, I'm not sure. which. Those are legal in all 50 states,
so you don't have to worry about getting. them through the airport security or. anything. But you live in Colorado, so. Hey, they got a little bit more relaxed. laws about it. Sean, thank you for the. gift, brother. You're welcome, man. Appreciate it. But um so we connected through Dr. Greer. Correct. at his conference in DC. He. brought in a handful of whistleblowers. You were one of them. Yes. Greer came on the show. He wanted a. military audience. And uh I believe to. get whistleblowers after the new law got. passed where there was protection for.
people to come out. And it's funny you say that because um. 2017, Dr. Greer actually came to. Colorado. Um he was hosting an event in. Boulder, kind of doing some disclosure, kind of talking about some of the. technology with the ATs, you know, um. UAPs, and just reverse engineer stuff, just kind of go like the the whole grand. scheme of things. It was like a several. hour presentation. And I had my ex there at the time, and. uh I kind of hinted to her that I needed. to talk about some things with him. So, he was doing a book signing. So, I go.
over to his table, I snag a book, and. I'm like, "Hey, can you sign this?" And. I was like, "By the way, there's some. things I need to talk to you about." And. he kind of looked at me weird, and I. said, "It's very serious." So, he handed. me his card, and he says, "Don't ever. relay this information out to anybody.". And me knowing with what I knew at the. time, you know, which obviously there. was some stuff that were in the works. until they recently passed here last. year, uh 2 days either before or after. Christmas when they put this law, which. I think it's the only good thing the. administration's done so far, to be. realistically speaking. I don't care if.
that makes people uncomfortable or not, but it's helped me out among other. people. It might be the only good thing. he's ever done. Um. fast forward to your show. You had him on the first time. And my fiance and me were watching it, and that's when he started relaying. information and started talking about. the law that was being passed. And that's when I decided to reach out. to him, and he knew exactly who I was, which was great. It was like. having talked into a friend for a while, then all of a sudden a call came out of. the blue, and it's just like everything. just resumes back to normal. So, um I.
expressed to him, told him my story, my encounter with this and and what. happened. So, then we arranged. everything to go at least to go talk. with the Senate Intelligence Committee, Congress, Senate, Pentagon, all that fun. stuff. And uh it was a journey. It was. definitely something that opened my eyes. to a lot more, because here I'm thinking. my event was something that was more. specific. But come to find out, I'm just a cog in. the wheel with this whole big thing, because there's other facets that I'm. also confirming these guys' stories, too, to a degree. Mhm. The corruption,
um secret organizations that have some. pull in this, and obviously some of the. nasty stuff that they're doing. And um there's other people down the. road who are going to corroborate with. what I'm talking about, too. I don't. know who they are. Maybe some of the. Marines that I uh I encountered this. with, too. Um so, I'm hoping that that's what's at. least if the message gets put out there. from the show, I'm hoping that that's. what it does. They can get people to. actually do something about it, and not. be afraid of it like I was. It was 14. years. You know. Yep.
A lot of a lot of weight to carry, try. to sweep it under, but the more you try. to do that, whatever you resist. persists. That's always a golden rule. That's a good point. That's a damn good. point. So, just a quick um synopsis. here. You responded to a 7.6 magnitude. earthquake and a tsunami hit in Western. Indonesia. Only your crew was routed to that. location to provide support. Indonesia. has a large terrorist population. Marine. crew was armed and tasked to provide. security along with medical equipment.
and food supplies. But it was just your. unit. Yes. Uh which there was five of you, correct? Yes, there was. And so, um they end up. choosing Marines out of my unit, at. least in the company, to go out. So, it's not like every single Marine in the. the company was able to do this. They. just hand-picked people to go on these. sticks of six Marines. So, originally it. was supposed to be more of like a. deterrence, but also uh overwatch. protection, so that way these helos can. drop the supplies, the logistics groups. that were part of it can then render aid. or whatever it is to the local. population there. Was it volunteer or.
were you hand-selected? Hand-selected. Okay. Or voluntold, I. should say. Okay, voluntold. Good way to put it. Yep. And uh I'm just curious, you know, what. what are you hoping to accomplish by. coming out? I want other people who have witnessed. similar things or are part of certain. things that are very controversial, but. end up being true, to come out and. understand that. what's going on is not acceptable. And. it This is just a facet of corruption.
It may not be the political corruption. that's coming out now that people are. witnessing with their own eyes. People. call them conspiracy theories. What I'm hoping to achieve is to get. other people on board to understand that. the government supports what we're doing. because they were in the dark about. this, too. And now they're coming out and they're. actually putting the hammer down. Uh. recent bills have been passing as far as. legislation through the Senate. Intelligence Committee saying that these. corporations have to give the goods here. in 6 months, or else there's going to be. some. um consequences they're going to face.
either. through the judicial system, which. obviously the government's got a lot of. weight with that. The other aspect of it, too, is that. they're going to ban these companies. from doing contracting work for the. government, which means they're going to. lose billions of dollars. They're going. to go broke. So, I'm hoping that they actually comply. with this measure because one, this. technology is going to help benefit. humanity as a whole. Not in a. militaristic sense because that's just. foolish. It's more to help out humanity because. now everybody's going to be on the same. level technology wise. I think the common ground here and the.
narrative with that is you're hearing. people come out at least in the. mainstream media is trying to talk about. ETs being able. My event had nothing to. do with ETs. And there's some misconstrued concepts. that are going about. The technology may. have came from ETs at at one point and. that's what we witnessed, but we. witnessed much more of a sinister plot. with this that they're using it. Um for. people who don't know, 2009 during this. operation. that's where we're responding. Obviously. with the humanitarian nature of this. because 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit,
that's mainly what the expertise is at. least as far as Marines go. It's not. really combat operations as much for the. most part even though Indonesia among. other parts in that world are large. networks for terrorists and insurgents. Mhm. So, um having that expertise of. going in and try to help people, I think. it's also good to us because it teaches. you the balance of instead being a war. fighter, you actually get to help people. instead of. you know, launching bullets at people. You're still helping people in a. different cause. You still get to be. heroes for people, which is great.
So, uh totally incidental um as far as. our encounter when we went on to the. slope because we had our LZ, it was a. hasty LZ. And they're dropping supplies. They. have, you know, a bunch of stuff and. there's other helos too. There's kind of. forming a perimeter around the city to. drop Marines here. You could provide. overwatch. Now, the only thing that's. unsettling with this is the fact that. they never gave us any comms. You know. as well as I do how risky that is. You. didn't have any comms? have any comms. And right. So, the Marine that was with was with. me, it was a higher rank than me, was. very pissed off about it.
Because he was a fusion Marine, you. know, so he went through a lot of [ __ ]. Yeah. And one of those things he I. remember him kept telling me he's like, "If I if everything ends up. going to [ __ ] um. and you look at me and if I'm fine, it. means that you're going to be fine.". And I remember him telling me telling us. all that in the stick, you know, and he. was a he's a good marine. He's a very. outstanding guy. Uh learned a lot from. him during my time in. And uh I thought about that concept, but. then he started picking things apart, too. He wasn't very comfortable with.
that, but the luckily the thing was is. that we were still relatively, you know, close enough to the LZ cuz when the bird. was supposed to land because obviously. they were coming in dropping the. supplies and they'd bank off. The last one that would come down would. land, that's when we'd basically run to. the helo 300 m. You're in good shape and. you have a average combat load, you. know, 120 rounds so to speak with an. M16A4 and a camel back. Not really much, you know, so you can. make that trip relatively quick. But. they also have security on those birds, too. With the flight crew, with the gunners.
on the sides they had 50s on them. So if there is some opposition, they're. going to meet with those on top of us. engaging them. So. we were positioned near the slope, you. know, it wasn't like a steep grade or. anything, but it was enough to obscure. what was going on on the other side that. we had no idea what was going on. So we got, you know, naturally you want. to take the high ground so you have. observation of everything. And this is when we came across this. operation. And it was something that stuck out like. a sore thumb because here you have um. terrain that is a jungle terrain, very.
green vegetation, things like that. And then you have something that's. sticking out right in the middle of an. opening, and it looks very odd. It's something that's, you know, I'll. remember till the rest of my life. Till. the day that I leave this earth, I'm. going to remember seeing that. It's just. imprinted up here. I had a camera with me. It was a. Panasonic cheap camera, you know, it had. kind of like um you know, ancient compared to what you got set up. in the studio, you know, but it was. enough at least cuz it was part of stuff. that I would I've never did a. humanitarian assistance before. So I was.
taking videos of them dropping stuff. off, things like that until we trekked. up to this point. I was taking some. pictures cuz it's a place you would. never really ever go to. At least the. real part of Indonesia. It's not like. Bali or Surabaya where it's like a. touristy stuff. Yeah. You know, this is where it's actual. culture people. You're you're actually. seeing reality here. So it's stuff that. I kind of wanted to document and just. say, you know, I was a part of this. I. can look back and say, you know, I I. remember that. But then turning a. looking north past that slope and seeing.
that down and I took some video and some. pictures of that. And um. I had, you know, I stuck it in my dump. pouch, you know, I was a saw gunner. naturally, you know, so I had an M249. That was my favorite weapon. I liked. having a belt-fed machine gun. As much. as a pain in the ass, um I liked having that compared to an. M16 or M4. So because we're in a humanitarian, all. they did was give us a M16A4s. You know, they had it um RCOs at that time. They. weren't the ACOGs. They had the mills on. the sides for windage and stuff like. that. Yeah.
Um as well as the PEC-15s, you know, so. if we're doing any kind of uh night. range or night operation, we'd have. those with our PVS-14s. So it's just a very basic loadout that. we were we were doing, you know, um. nothing really crazy. And when we saw this happen, saw this. and I want to say unidentified because. right now it's identified. Everybody. knows what they are now. They're either. man-made or they're not. And if they're. not, the government is coming out and. telling people admitting it not. directly, but they're still admitting it. to a degree that they it exists. Because.
why would they spend time with this. legislation coming out? That's that's a. good point. Why would they do that? If it's if it. doesn't exist, why were they going. through these measures to basically hold. a gun up to these guys' heads and say, you better relinquish this technology or. else? They're not just doing it. knowing and seeing this unfold, even. being in this position of having to. brief the Senate Intelligence among uh. the special intelligence service, too, which oversees the letter agencies, cuz. they have no idea what's going on, either. But, the fact that all of us coming. together and making this loud amount of. noise to get something done about it is.
just astounding. And now, they're. finally, for the first time in history, they're going through with this and. actually trying to do something about it. for their own understanding, but also. know the corruption that's. comes from this. Yeah. It's multiple different facets. I mean, you get you guys already, all five of. you, right? Already testified in front. of Congress. So, we testified to people. of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which were there some Congress people. there as Okay. as some senators. the Intelligence Committee by the Senate. And you know, yeah. And you know as well. as I do, in any kind of setting like. that, whether you're in a SCIF, it's all.
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because this craft took up majority of. that. So, let me let's just back up for. a minute. Let's let's describe the. setting because at first you said there. were helos going doing racetrack around. Is this the same opening that you. described earlier that you were watching. helos drop supplies. No. Okay. So, um where this was. happening was southwest at least where. the helo insertion points were with the. LZ's that they were setting up. And they. were flying very low in consideration in. consideration, right? So, and the the reason why I know this. is because I asked the pilots after this. because I was in the officer's mess and.
I knew their call signs and approached. them and then asked them very. respectfully if they noticed anything. strange. None of them said anything. Okay. So, I was trying to see if they. could get a view of a top side because. this is just something that's. crazy, right? Yeah. So, um. also their call signs all stuck out too, you know, because pilots like to do. crazy stuff with their call signs. So, it was very easy to track them down. But. having this happen on the north part of. the slope and it goes down and. obviously, you know, the way it was. transitioning colors which was kind of. the way that it appealed because it was.
transitioning for a light matte black or. no, sorry, a light matte gray to a dark. matte black and just kind of range in. between, right? Let's let's let's let's rewind a little. bit before we get into the description. Okay. How far So, what was the activity with. all the other helicopters? Were they. active at the time that you saw the. Honestly, I. when we started going down there, no. Okay. And I don't know because obviously. we were occupied with this. How far do. you think it was? So, from us from the. LZ where we were at was 300 m of.
roughly, okay? Plus the slope that was. concealing plus vegetation. Down the slope it was like 3 400 m. maybe. So, we got close. We trekked down. quite a bit. Okay. About 150 m outside 150 200, right? Halfway. And the reason So, maybe about a click. away. Possibly. Yeah. Yeah, at the fire. The craft itself might have been a click. up. Okay. Yeah. And as I said, um the reason why I know. how big this thing was because Did you. see it as you crested the. Yes. the hill? Yes, I did. And that's.
So, that's where I took videos and. pictures of this thing. That's how I was able to see it because, you know, I was taking pictures of the. chaos going behind and everything. You. seen the rubble of burning buildings, flooding and all that kind of stuff. And then you turn around and I'm like. So, you. you you crest this hill. Yep. You look. down into into the valley. Yep. And there's a clearing. There's a clearing. with a UAP. Yes. just sitting there. Sitting there rotating clockwise, yep. And that's in transition this color. spectrum I was telling you, too.
And that's why it's kind of it's. something that stuck out. It's not a. building, you know, it's not something. that you're used to seeing. Maybe. topside it could have looked like a. building or something that, you know, I. don't know. I'm not I don't have that. perspective. I wasn't a pilot or. anything, but. I can tell you from our point of view. it's something that just it looked very. unnatural and abnormal. And that's what. got our curiosity to go investigate. this. Now, normally because we we would. have had comms, you're damn right we. would have called it in. Report something suspicious. Maybe get. some eyes on a helo, get a hold of their. call signs and try to do them.
fly around and they never did. But. obviously we didn't have comms to do it, but they were more occupied with what. was going on behind us. So, when we trekked down and got around 150. to 200 m from it, you know, and this is. an opening. By the way, um there's no. tactical advantage. being in this situation. because you don't have cover. It's. jungle. You have concealment, but this. kind of concealment with vegetation is. not bulletproof. Mhm. So, when we trekked up close and we were.
at tac comms, so obviously you have. points here, right? Each marine so you. have visuals of the sides, somebody has. point and somebody has the rear. And all of a sudden we're involved by. this military force of I still to this. day don't know who they are. And that's. did you get? To the craft? To the craft. Roughly 200 m, 150-200. Did you get to. the bottom of the hill? Yes. So you. could see so you saw the top of it. and then you could see underneath of it. And underneath of it had this platform. that was on the ground that was separate.
from this craft hovering. And it was it was very weird to see and. I was like, okay, I don't know if that's. kind of like a cement. pad or something. I don't know if it was. like a helipad or anything like that at. first, but then started seeing how the. material would kind of look very similar. to what the craft was is like well, that's separate. So you have something. that's on the ground stationary and then. you have something that's up top and. it's just rotating in a clockwise. position. So right when we got close to it, um at. least, you know, 150-200 m out, then all. of a sudden we were engaged at least not. in a hostile manner at least, you know,
not gunfire or firefight or anything. like that. But the way that these guys. moved was so fluid, it was so still, it. was very very very smooth. And it kind of indicated to me, um after. thinking about it for several years, is. that these guys have done it for a a. while. because of how smooth this operation. was. So when we were in a tactical. column going towards the center of this. thing, they actually came from the flanks, but. it was more of a diagonal like a corner. of the room, so to speak, right? For. them in a tactical advantage, they have. interlocking fields of fire on every.
single person. And they had a team of. eight, right? And the gear that they had. was black OTV vests, they had black. camouflage utilities, they had. So what what you're saying is there was. there would have been no Mexi they were. professionals. There would have been no. Mexican standoff where if they fired, they're shooting into their other squad. They had they had perfect angles to. where both sides could engage you. did. Team of four, team of four, so it. was like a fire team element at that. Without worrying about a blue on blue. Yeah, Exactly. Okay. So, um you know, with that being said.
because as they as they approached us, you hear the. safeties flip off. Now, your attention to detail when. you're seeing this kind of stuff, your. sensors are very heightened, so you can. pick up I know you've been a combat. veteran and you know you know all about. that. Your heightened sense of awareness. is going through. uh astronomical changes. Hyper-vigilant. Yes. So, you can hear stuff a lot clearer. And that's when you kind of picked up. the hum that the subjects was doing. along with these guys flipping their. safeties off. Especially M4s, you know, it's very distinct sound. Anybody in.
this room who's held M4s and has shot. them, M16s, things like that, it's very. distinct sound to flipping it off. So, um we kind of knew when they started. yelling at us, you know, they were like, you know, "You're not supposed to. [ __ ] be here. What the [ __ ] are you. guys doing here? Who the [ __ ] are you. with?" you know, so they knew they were. using the kind of lingo that we we were. using too, especially in the military. So, it made me think that at some point. these guys actually were uniform. military at one point. Any accents? Uh not accents, it's just. like American dialects, how you and I. are talking.
Uh very you know, they at one point they. said they were going to smoke us, they. could throw us out of a helicopter, they. could it's very easy to get lost in the. jungle out here, you know, they kept. saying stuff like that. So, after they. enveloped us. they all pretty much got in line, they. told us to put our weapons, so we all. got in line as well and we had our hands. up, we had our weapon slung. And um they're having two guys watch. while there's a guy basically taking our. magazines out of our vests. And they're throwing them on the deck. and they're kicking them away so you we. don't have time to react. They also at. the same time, the first thing they did.
was obviously take our weapon and clear. it. But they took the magazine out and. they actually held it in a way to where. they could pull the charging handle and. collect the round and have it not hit. the deck. So, they the way that these. guys operate was very smooth. It's very. calculated, very precise. You could tell. they've done this a lot of the rehearsed. a lot, you know, especially combat. operations, you're doing terrain model. rehearsals, you're doing rehearsals. whether you're clearing rooms, trying to. figure all that kind of stuff out. These. guys kind of did the same thing, I'm. assuming because of how smooth it was. And because you know as well as I do, you get you know, you have new guys that.
join a unit and they're not that fresh. You know, they're very choppy because. they have a basic understanding. You. either have to stack up and do room. clearing. Um. and the guys that have done it and been. through combat deployments and all that, they're very kind of methodical, very. smooth cuz they know what to expect. These new guys, it's not the same thing. You could tell these guys were seasoned. So, as they did that, they actually um. each Marine had two guys on them, plus. one that was taking the stuff off of. them. They actually knew where our military.
IDs were because in Marine Corps order, you have to have them in your left. breast pocket. So, there were 15 of these guys, three. on each Marine. No, no. So, they had other guys right. here and they had three that were just. going through each Marine. While other. people were holding each Marine at. gunpoint. And they're not like um. they're not like super close to us. range-wise with uh you know, because if. you get a muzzle close, I mean, it's. easy to grab it and you know, kind of. fend off, especially with a rifle. But, these guys were at a standoff distance. that even if you try to move, they could. they could they could smoke you. One. search team of three guys.
Yes. And then the rest of the squad was. aimed in on us. Yes. Hold Okay. Yeah. So, and again, you. know, they're not anywhere where they. could actually There was people behind. us because obviously, if they had to. engage, they're going to hit one of. their own guys probably. So, it's more. like they were kind of the moving the. same way through all of us, all six of. us. Okay. Taking our stuff. Taking uh. pictures of our military IDs, you know. So, they had like these devices that. kind of look like a very thin It looked. like a smartphone modern day right now. cuz in 2009, it wasn't the case.
I think the most high-tech thing they. had at that time were maybe. Blackberries, but they're bulky at that. point with the ball and then they had. their flip phone Razrs and things like. that. But, these looked like something. you'd see today. And they were taking pictures of. military IDs and they had something some. other device that was like a remind me. think of a bat system. I don't know if. you're familiar with that. Describe it. It's like a biometrics. tracking system. So, what it does is. when you come across with an insurgent, you can take pictures of their face, their retinas, fingerprints. Yeah. Something like that, but they were.
trying to have a They were trying to. scan our IDs with this thing, and it. wasn't working. So, they're kind of. getting frustrated with it. So, as this is going on, did they. collect biometrics from you? No. Okay. No. Which I mean they took pictures of us, but that might be enough and then they. took our IDs, you know, because some. people I talked to that are in the. special operations community with that, they said, "Yeah, we have the ability to. scan IDs and it tells us everything. about you.". Military IDs, driver's license, things. like that. So, it's very high-speed. stuff. I mean, and considering this was. in 2009 compared to now,
I mean, of course, they had this thing. that they were using to load up stuff. It's very advanced physics, you know, something hovering off the ground not. making any sound but an audible hum, like a a guitar amp or something that's. like a transformer. So, it wasn't like. it didn't sound like a jet. No. It didn't sound like a helicopter. There was no engine noise. Nope. Just a hum. Just an audible hum. Very It's very creepy to see because. it's not normal. Was it like a bassy. hum? Yeah. Yep, like a guitar Like if you.
were to unplug it I mean, it wasn't the. same pitch, but it was like the same. same kind of sound, same kind of noise. it emitted. And um. so, as they're searching us, we're. watching this thing happen. That's when. we started seeing trucks come from our. left and go onto this platform. And they. were up-armored 350s. I know exactly. what 350s are. They're kind of beefier trucks. They. were matte black. When they were coming. at us and they go left. And I was glancing between what was. going on in front of us with these guys. and then all of a sudden glancing over. to what was going on behind them.
And that's when I started seeing the key. details of this thing, like it had like. a scale pattern on it kind of like an. octagonal cuz this craft itself was like. an octagonal shape where you could see. points. Had a pyramid structure on top. that was black and you could see the. shadowing of it as it rotated. But it. was rotating very slow. And then every it had like these vents. on every single corner on the middle. part of these plat on this the panels. anyway, there was like a vantablack. It. was like a dark black that would like. absorb light. Very weird. Very. What what do you mean by that? A dark.
black that would absorb light? So you have you ever familiar with the. BMW they painted vantablack? It was like. a very super dark black. It's not like a. reflective material at all. black? No, but very very very even. darker than matte black. Okay. Like you. can shine a light at it and it won't. even illuminate. Like the Batmobile. Kind of. Something like that. But even. it was like very dark. Something I can. describe was like that vantablack. Okay. And. um. So as. So you when you mean absorb light. you're saying.
if I shine a laser on it you probably. you might not even see the laser or it. would be very dull. Correct. Okay. Something like that. So we're watching these vehicles, right? These trucks. Now the thing I was saying. on the front of them because you know. how. Humvees the military has they have the. IR lights on the front near the. headlights that you can drive at night. time with your knots. So they had the. same thing cuz they had the same kind of. slits that had the IR lights. But they had a weapon cases in the back. of each truck bed. And you know that you. can store like a couple hundred weapons, maybe a hundred weapons, maybe a platoon.
a company size element. And it was the same Pelican cases that. we would use to store stuff when they. were transporting, you know, so very big. cases on two of them in each truck bed. And then they had a shipping container. of. thing. I mean it looked like a shipping. container but smaller and half the size. And the thing that was different about. this is I had a cylinder on the front of. it that was towards the truck. It was. like parallel to the ground. Just a. cylinder right on the top of this thing. And for years I thought, okay, you know, like.
this has got to be auction supplier or. like a vacuum sealing thing that you. would, you know, cuz obviously I'm. thinking it's drugs. I was like, okay, so this is a very. advanced way to do that." Just years of. thinking of this. And. come to find out when I gave my speech. in DC on that Saturday for the. Disclosure Project with Dr. Greer, he's got a lot of people come out of the. woodwork, by the way. And this. gentleman, I'm not going to give any. detail. I know a little bit about him, but he works in some of these projects. that are very.
some. very controversial facilities. He's. aware of what was going on. After I gave. my presentation of this, he confirmed. He says, "No, he's like, I. don't want to leave Michael hanging out. there, but I was not expecting to come. and talk to you about this." And he went. explaining what the operations do, why. they do it, and what they were using them for. And. he says, "There's not drugs that they're. putting in these shipping containers. He. says it's humans.". Human trafficking. Yes. His own words. And he you know, of. course. And he also wants to come forward, at.
least with him and 30 other people that. were involved with that part of the. work. Um but it was very disheartening to. actually get that information relayed to. me, cuz here I'm thinking for years it's. drugs and it's a much sinister thing. But it makes sense because they use. natural disasters where people are going. to be missing anyway. Yep. It the Scoop. up people. I mean, I just uh I've been covering. human trafficking this year. Right. And. that's you know, a lot of the human. trafficking comes from third world. countries.
in distress. You're in a third world. area. Yep. In distress, right after a. right after an earthquake would be. I mean, it's prime Yeah. prime time to. to. do human trafficking operation. How big. were the containers? Uh I would say probably 8 ft and 10 ft. 8 ft tall, 10 ft within. So like maybe half a Conex box? Yeah, about that. Okay. And they were kind of like on a. the trailer that was underneath. was kind of like a regular Humvee. trailer that you would see it kind of.
pull stuff. Something like that. How were they being lifted into the. craft? So, they were driving onto this platform. that was angled to where they hit. And it just raised up and they were just. driving on this ramp. Oh, the truck would go up? Yeah, but the whole thing was a ramp. Okay. Like a circular ramp. And I mean, obviously I can't see what's. on the Excuse me, the other side of it. But I'm assuming because it's a circular. pattern that it's going to be the same. on the other side. Cuz they would drive. onto this platform and at that point I. saw all the doors open.
Four guys would come out. And then I'd. go back to what we're facing here with. these guys searching our stuff, asking. us questions, taking our IDs, trying to. intimidate the crap out of us. And um so, I can see the guys come out. of the truck. And that was making me think too, like. at a tactical advantage, we didn't have. that. There's only six of us. Basically trained infantry Marines. And there's these guys here that are, you know, doing this operation and very. skilled, very. methodical, very calculated, very.
precise. And if there's eight of them, and then. all of a sudden every single truck has. four of these guys, I know that it's not. just these guys are running a perimeter. There could have been 40 or, you know, 30 or 40 people. Yeah. Could have been platoon-sized element. And the fact that we have no concealment. barely have any concealment because if. we were to run and bank off the sides. here to go to our flanks, they could just engage us. There's. nothing to hide behind. Yeah. Vegetation ain't going to stop bullets, you know, but so, there's a lot of uh.
questions I have too because it's, you. know, obviously if we would have engaged. them, then the whole rest of the force behind. us would know about it because they'd. have heard the commotion. Yep. How many containers do you estimate were. put into the craft? Four cuz I saw four trucks. Four containers? Yep. And there could have been more, but at. that point where we saw we could have, you know, cuz. we stumbled onto this thing. We ruined. their their operation, so so speak, cuz. we weren't allowed to see that. Well, let's talk about the craft. Okay. How big was it? 300 ft is what I'm.
estimating, about a football field. And. the reason why I say this is because we. flew on a CH-53 Super Stallions. I'm. sure you're familiar with those your. time as a SEAL. They're roughly 100 ft. All right, so. from nose to tail, if you lined up three. of them, it'd fit three of them under. this craft because I can see, you know, especially the operation behind us, you. kind of see them off in the distance, so. you try to gauge, you know, as a Marine, you always trying to judge distance, you. know what I mean? Because if you're. having to engage, but lo and behold, we end up having a surprise right here. happen with these guys, but that's how I.
know it was around 300 ft. Okay. That's a That's a And it was circular. Circular. It's like an octagon because. it had like corners on it. That was like. an octagon shape, but still circular. Could you see Was it one smooth piece of. metal? No. Was it panels? Panels. Yep. How were they. How Just describe more. Were there. windows? Were there openings? windows, nothing I could see like that. Um they. just had that vantablack vent looking. things on each corner. That's all I saw.
with that. And it had like a octagonal. scale pattern that went through it. It. honestly reminded me kind of like a. design for an F-22. Raptor. You know, I like the top of it. kind of looks like that. That's what it. kind of reminded me of with the cuz it. would transition those colors. So, I suspect, you know, I've had people. I've talked to about this that say, "Well, you know, Lockheed Martin has. reverse-engineered stuff that's. circular. Raytheon, they have triangular. craft.". And so, it might have been Lockheed. because Lockheed also made the F-22. Interesting. Similar design concept, now that I think.
about it, right? Because at this time, you're not really thinking about it. You're like, I got the I'm more concerned with these. guys and who the hell they are. So, after we witnessed the last truck. going on there, and we're still dealing with that, I got. searched already, of course, and I'm. just paying attention to what's going. on. I'm making sure my guys are good, too. And all all a sudden, the trucks, we. never saw them again. They were not on. that platform. There was like boxes and. stuff that were on that platform. And uh. so I'm assuming they either drove off on. the other side or disappeared where or. where they went, I don't know.
But all of a sudden, we notice that this. platform raises off the ground by. itself. It doesn't make any noise, by. the way. It doesn't disturb anything. It. just Before it started. gaining elevation, yeah. How high off. the ground was this? The actual craft? Yes. I would say probably 20 ft. Okay. Yeah. Good distance. And the platform rose up, but I'd say. like the platform was up uh several. feet, right? Probably maybe 5 6 ft. Cuz. it was look you know, from the distance. probably.
by the. half an inch. I mean, I'm just envisioning. I'm envisioning a The way you're. describing this, I'm envisioning an an. octagon Yep. rotating clockwise. with a drop ramp similar to. maybe something you would see on the. back of a C-130, C-17, but circular. But. circular and separate. There's no. cables, there's no. Okay. Was the ramp attached to the. craft? No. So there was just an opening?
There was just an opening like the. bottom part of the craft. That's what. I'm assuming because that's what I saw. it lift up and go into. It was like the bottom part. It was like. the the floor. itself was like the platform and they. were just rolled up, right? But at the. same time the the top part leveled a. little bit and went down to meet with. this. And as that happened. you start to see it rise up past the. tree line. It's not like a super fast. and just rapid. It's just like kind of. slow. As that's going on, the rotation. has not changed. The audible hum has not.
changed. But it sound like somebody hit the gas. and you hear a different. Yeah, it's nothing like that. No. Just constant. Okay. Each point on that octagonal shape. started to illuminate colors. Like it. was just one color per point. It was. red, it was green, it was yellow, and it. was blue. Those were the only colors I saw and it. was a rotating, right? Soon as it got to. the top of the tree line, like cleared. the trees, this thing shot off to the left. And to. the left was the ocean, by the way.
This is going west. How far to the left was the ocean? Um. probably a good mile and a half, maybe. That's it? Yeah, it wasn't right on the. coastline. Okay. Probably, I would say maybe. could be a mile and a half to 3 miles, I'd estimate cuz I'm I mean, this is. just estimation, I don't really know. Cuz it took us a little bit when we. landed into the near Puding City. Cuz we. landed at the airstrip and then we took. like a several minute flight going from. southwest to like northeast part,
roughly. So, I'd say probably a couple miles to. to kind of estimate. And. like I said, it didn't change pitches of. noise or anything. And it just completely shot off. I mean, it's just like a blur that went left. Didn't make a sonic boom. like you'd see a fighter jet when you. see the pressure of the you know, the way that that happens. It didn't disturb any of the trees like. what rotor wash would do on a helo or a. jet flying the map of the earth and. leaving exhaust and blowing the you.
know, you kind of see Top Gun movies. with a No concussion. Nothing. There were even coconuts that you could. visibly see on these trees. None of them were disturbed. No [ __ ]. Yeah. And me, I like I like aircraft. You. know, that was my thing. You know, I. wanted to be a pilot, but that didn't. happen. I wanted to fly the Harrier. And I know about aircraft. I know. everything that we've got. I know. everything about them, you know, from a. little kid that's all I wanted to do, you know, but obviously then. being infantry was the next best thing. So,
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Jump master's got his arm up, getting. ready to hit me in the back. And then, we see shuffling, and I'm only one of 12. guys that I jump with every time. He. filed a classified a classified. complaint under oath, and the. Intelligence Community Inspector General. said that he found the complaint urgent. and credible. A guy from the back. shuffles his way to the front and is one. of the escorts. He is unmistakable. I get a knock at the door. It's that. same guy who cut me out of the door.
Hands me a note, said, thinking of you. He's like, "Hey, sorry about your loss, buddy.". I think it gives weight to a lot of the. people that have come forward and talked. about having direct first-hand. experience. To me, it just felt like somebody. looking you dead in the eye and said, "I. can touch you anytime I want.". Well, when was the assassination. attempt? So, we go inside. Meet another escort in there.
Uh take us to this freight elevator. One. of the guys looks at my dad. and says, saying to both of us, you know, "Keep your head down. Your eyes on the. heels of the man in front of you, or. you'll be shot.". What could somebody threaten you with. to make you turn your back on your own. child? So, as that took off, we're also on an. order to face that slope that we came.
down. And I mean, like I said, it's not. very high up. I mean, it's high enough. to obscure everything to kind of go down. in the valley. And um. so, as we turn around, like, [ __ ]. They're going to do it. I think they were just going to, you. know, [ __ ] rip us right there. Yeah. And. they were going to kill you. Yeah. Does that mean it's like. When you When Before we get to that, Yep. when you saw this thing take off, I. mean, do you have any estimation of. speed? Have you seen anything.
anything you've seen before? Was it a a. normal speed? How. No, it was it was faster. It was the. fastest thing I've ever seen. It was I would say probably 4, 5,000. mph. I mean, it was instantaneous. It. was just like it left a blur. Okay. You. know, like a jet screaming by going as. fast as it possibly could, you can still. make the shape of it and still lock your. eyes onto it as it's going. There's no way in hell you could lock. your eyes onto this thing as it's. moving. That's how fast it was. Okay. And eyesight, you know, you something. moving, your eyes are naturally going to.
pick up that motion. And this didn't do that. I mean, it was. just like it just left a very fast blur. And like I said, I've never seen. anything like that, the way that it. moved, the way that it didn't make any. sound, completely, you know, didn't. change pitch of the hum or anything like. that. Did it go at an upward angle? Was it a. straight line? looked like a straight line from what I. could see, you know what I mean? It just like it wasn't like it went up. in the sky or anything. It was just like. then over the trees and it was gone. Okay. So yeah, I mean, you know, knowing aircraft and things like that,
it just wasn't something normal. Something completely faster, something. doesn't make any sound. I mean, radar signature, I have no idea, you know, but there's theories that. maybe the design of it could. not reflect radar signals. I mean, I. don't know how that go. I'm not, you. know, I don't work in that project or. anything like that, but it's just. something that's very odd to see, very, very alarming. Did the lights stay on as. it as it took off? Yep. Okay. But you. couldn't even see the blurs of lights. even. It was just this black blur that. just left. Damn. Yeah.
I mean, it was creepy. It was it was. [ __ ] creepy to see. Yeah. And, you know, of course, we're like. dumbfounded because you never seen. anything like this. And this is like. some Hollywood [ __ ] you know. Make the ships from Independence Day. look like a joke, you know, how fast this thing was. So, um. it was it was a very, very, very weird. to see that. And like I said, as we were. ordered to turn towards the slope that. we came down, and that's why I thought it was it. I. thought they were going to smoke us, you.
know, and they kept saying that, you. know, we're just we can kill you right. now, you know, they're as as this is. going on, they're talking [ __ ] they're. looking at us, they're taking pictures, they're doing, you know, everything that. they're trying to do clear us. So, as we turn this, and all of a. sudden, I see a sling pass over my. head. And oh, [ __ ] they're going to. strangle me.". And it wasn't the case. They actually. tightened it so well that when they. placed it and you know, it's cross body. and obviously the. butt stock of the rifle is up on the.
right shoulder and the muzzle's kind of. more towards your left. And they tightened the sling so well. that if you try to get it off, it's. going to struggle, right? And they started putting the magazines. in and they put all six of them in a. vest, but they put in a way that wasn't. tactical. They put them like right side. up where you can see the brass, right? Cuz brass to the grass is usually what. we always train our Marines to do. So, you just take it out, pop it in, boom, right? And um. they did in the case it'd be tactical it. wouldn't be a tactical advantage to do. that. So, by the time you get your. weapon off, try to put a magazine in and.
charge it, you're already going to get smoked. Yeah. So, Were you you were standing up when they. did this? Yes. Yep. And when I saw that sling come over, I. mean, I was like, [ __ ] I thought they. were going to strangle me. Were they. talking to you as they were doing this? Yes. That's when I was saying they're. going to, you know, smoke us, they're. going to kill us, they could shoot us, you know, leave us here to die, stuff. like that. Why do you think they were do I mean, it. sounds like they were taunting almost. They they were. And I think you know, my. personal opinion is I think they wanted. I think they really wanted to kill us.
But if they made any I mean, cuz they. didn't have a suppressors, you know, they had an M4A4s, they had like the. high speed set up, they had actual. ACOGs. They had the honeycombs on them, they. had the um PEC 16s, which is step up. from what we had. They had. steel magazines. They Their weapons are. like they were brand new. Did they have. nods? No. They had ball caps, though. Ball caps? Yep. They had no insignias, nothing that. would signify what their rank was, um. nothing that would signify what branch. if they were. There's nothing to.
identify and you know, law enforcement. agencies are typically try to be uniform. with all blacks so you can't really. identify who they are specifically. And. it's like how these guys were doing the. same thing. Cuz I know in AOs, at least. where you have friendlies, you want to. identify who's what because that's how. you're going to coordinate between. everybody of you know who's friendly. who's not. So, if you're having to do. anything like air strikes, close air. support, casivacs, you know what to say. and what they look like. Paint the. picture for. what you're getting into to provide to. the people that intel. And these guys. were just uniform black.
Ball caps and it's just. you know, it's very obvious that these. guys didn't want to be identified, but. they had American dialects, they had. American lingo similar to what Marines. would use or at least military. So, that's why my suspicion is I think that. these guys at one point were uniform. military and maybe they got swept in. this program, whatever it is. Mhm. Could you see their faces? I did. They. had three of the guys had facial hair, like kind of stubble. Some of them kind of not really long. beards, but like an operator look, you.
know what I mean? Yeah. Rest of the guys. didn't. Uh some of them had kind of. blonde hair, at least you can see from. right here. Some of them had like black hair and. then um. just regular white complexion. Some of. them had blue eyes, some of them had. brown eyes and they had one guy that I. saw had He was the one that was mainly. focused in on us as we were getting. searched. And you can see he had kind of like. grayish blue eyes. So, I don't you know, I don't know what. military force I mean obviously it's not. conventional. Yeah.
Because you know, the question if they ever come out. and they decide to if they decide to. ever do this. and say I was there, it was these guys, I would have a questions the question. would be why did you let us go or what. were you guys thinking? Or why were you guys doing this for the. matter? Cuz this isn't something that you know, me consciously. there's a lot of things especially. finding out that this happens to with. human trafficking. Morally, I could. never do that. Yeah.
That's a touchy subject for me. They. might not know. Yeah. And then that's. just it, too. I mean, they could have I. mean, maybe the guys in the trucks were. more of the darker side of things that. were doing the hands-on and these guys. were security. So, mean, there's so many. theories with this. You know, I've had. I've seen some flak on on Reddit about. this. And you got all these armchair. quarterbacks like, "Oh, I wouldn't have. surrendered my weapon." Oh, yeah? So, you get pulled over by a cop, and he's got his gun his gun drawn and. because you know, there's some people. that that's their interaction with. police because they're known to be.
violent people. The cop is not going to take any. chances. They're going to pull out their. sidearm, and they're going to approach. the vehicle like this, tell you to get. the [ __ ] out. Right? Are you going to chance anything this. guy shooting you if he's holding you at. gunpoint? No. No, you got kids. You got You got a. wife. You know, you got a bunch of stuff. to live for. I know these Marines had. the same thing. But it's always these people who are. going to talk this [ __ ] who were not. there. Cuz I know for a fact that I'm here I'm. here today talking to you about this. I was here, you know, talking to the. Pentagon and talking all these other.
people about this to testify to them, tell them what happened. And I'm glad that, you know, I'd rather. get the flak than to have to sit there. and actually. whatever story they were going to spun. up. to say that, you know, maybe. one Marine got PTSD or something, decided to kill his own squad, and then. kill himself. Mhm. I mean, whatever they. would have spun it to be. If these guys. have this kind of technology and these. resources, they can do anything. Yeah. They're above the law, clearly. So, as they gave us our stuff back and we're.
going up the slope, they're still. talking [ __ ] They're still saying, you. know, we could kill you. Don't [ __ ]. look back or we're going to smoke you. So, as soon as we went over the top, and. all of a sudden we didn't, you know, they weren't pursuing us, and we [ __ ]. hightailed it. We ran down this [ __ ]. slope trying not to trip over [ __ ] go. to the LZ, and there there were still. helicopter flying, you know, they were. flying relatively low with this. the uh shipments that they were had that. were attached, and then they were. landing, dropping the stuff off, and. then they were taking off, right? And. they were just coming and going back and.
forth. There was a gunner sergeant there that. was not in my unit. I think he was attached to the ship. Might have been kind of like their their. logistical support unit or whatever it. is for because I know each ship has a. logistical support for Marines, right? That are on the ship, either act as. security or whatever it is. There was a. gunnery sergeant there and he was like. [ __ ] pissed. because we showed back up and we weren't. supposed to. And then we had our. weapons, you know, so where were we. conditioned for? You know, we tried to. play dumb, so obviously we kind of like. set up a perimeter and then we adjusted. ourselves. Some of my guys, you know,
they'd help us get our stuff on slung. and then we'd load it back up and, you. know, act like everything was normal, but I can tell everybody's faces were. like, "What the fuck?". Very, very concerning stuff. And here's. the thing though, if stuff is still going on to this day, which I'm sure it is, because if. they're, you know, come to find out, and I know you probably know this, human. trafficking is the biggest revenue. generator for these guys, Mhm. for these. organizations. Second's drugs, third's. weapons. So, if they're hitting all three, then. obviously they're not going to want to. give up their operations being known for.
that because it's illegal. It's not. going to sit very well in the public. eye. There a lot of people have children. I. don't have I personally don't have kids, but I know you as a dad would not. [ __ ] stand for that kind of [ __ ]. Because then you have the thought in. your head that it's going to be my kids. are going to end up like this. That potentially could. It's not a very. comfortable thing people realize. And. having them known to see this happen, it sucks. And this is kind of more why I'm. pressing towards to getting the the. resolution done with this. Um to make the government aware of it.
because if that's going on, it's got to be stopped. That's some evil. That's some evil nature right there. And. I can't believe that there are actually. people participating in this. And if. they know about it, [ __ ] shame on. them. Yeah, you know, it's it's it's. very interesting. Did There are two. subjects that um I really wanted to dive. into this year. I'm fascinated with the. UFO UAP um. genre. Right. And I want to expose as.
much as possible. Um. the stuff about human trafficking and. everything that goes into it. We've. already started that and to see these. two. arenas start to. intertwine is I mean, it's. very alarming. It tells you how much. money is being spent. And it tells you that there's companies. here that the government doesn't know. about they're participating in this. Yeah. And it's not even, you know, something happens in the United States. It may, you know, it definitely does.
But to see the operation because think. about it. It's a It's perfect cover. Because let's say if you're hiking. somewhere out here. and you see that unfold. and you try to call the police. You try. to call, you know, federal, state, local. agencies. or even the military for that matter. Try to report this. Are they going to. take you serious? No. They wouldn't. I mean, it's it's it's becoming. more and more common as time goes on, but yeah, it's. you know, what you know, what sucks. about this is we're in this we're in. this time period where.
everybody knows. not I guess not everybody, but it seemed. everybody that I know knows that the. media is. false. It's fake. They. they don't report everything. They lie. No, they don't. and and. and. but at the same time. a lot of people won't put any validation. or trust in anything that hasn't been. covered by the mainstream media. So, we're in like this.
time period where there's there's. there's a transition happening. There is. and it's thanks to people like you. And. I'm glad that there's people with me. doing this, too, that, you know, it's easy for for people to sit there. and try to judge what they would have. done in these situations. And the bottom. line is is we have gotten a point in our. life and I don't mean us specifically, but I mean the rest of the world. where they get so disturbed with things, but they don't do anything about it. They want other people to do it.
I'm unhappy with the situation with. [ __ ] change it or help change it. That's what we're trying to do. We're. trying to get the word out there. We're. trying to get the government at least. the right parts of the government to do. something about this. And you know, among other things that. you see with corruption, you know, for example, you can talk about the. media. Like I was a security at least for my. private security firm for the America's. Frontline Doctors in Washington, D.C. They came to talk to President Trump. about. COVID not being as serious as what the. media is trying to say it is. They said. that vaccinations are not something.
required to beat this. They were talking. about natural immunity. They were. talking about all the things that we. already knew. Well, people are getting silenced for. it. And I'm seeing these doctors, especially Dr. Simone Gold, you know, so. they try to wrap her up because she was. part of the January 6th thing. But she's. actually a really nice lady. But she's explained to us how everything. worked because they took us out to. dinner, you know, to try to thank us and. it was very cool to network with these. people. And then all of a sudden you go after. the event and you start seeing the news. articles pop up about these people.
And it's completely defamation. It's. completely stuff that's not even. related. You know, and and. it's one of those things that it's it's. it sucks to see because their lives were. ultimately ruined for speaking out about. the truth. But here's the thing, there comes great. risk to stuff. Comes, you know, my life. doesn't get lavish because of what I'm. doing today and what I've been doing. It. becomes hell. I've had. numerous encounters with [ __ ]. helicopters hovering over my house.
They were hovering over my dad's house. They get so low where they rattle the. walls. Scare the [ __ ] out of the animals. that we've got. You know, his dogs were. going [ __ ] crazy at that point. And. he was concerned because he he was home. and he was like, "I've never heard. anything like that.". So, you know, having I've taken videos. of this too, but seeing Blackhawks, seeing regular black helicopters that. don't even have insignias on them, nothing. And they're just sitting there. But the thing about it that is at least. noticeable about this and it's just kind. of a there's a hysterical factor to. this.
How much money they're [ __ ] spending. on this to happen to try to either. intimidate me. or anybody else for that matter. There's. some elected officials and even some. government officials I know they're. having the same thing happen to them. because they've told me about it. personally. They're on Crypto Source so. we talk about so they instructed me that. anytime that something like this happens. that I could record it, take pictures. because they'll see the timestamps of. everything taken and let them know the. time and they'll investigate it. Cuz. they can have access to the FAA systems. and among other systems that I can. actually relay where these people are. going. They can listen into their comms,
you know, because they have to guide. through the FA air traffic. You know, where they're going. I live by. the airport in Denver. And the airspace there is restricted. because they have airplanes that are. flying, you know, every directions to. try to, you know, passenger airliners or. whatnot. So it's not a normal flight. path for helicopters. That's what stuck. out to me. Um they were doing it at my place of. business where they'd fly over, they'd. stop and then, you know, they would bank. off. In my dad's house they get low, you. know, enough. Um. it's just, you know, it doesn't become. glamorous by speaking about this.
And you have people maybe that you've. met through. uh when you testified in front of uh the. intelligence committee that that are. helping you. Yeah. They're telling you, "Hey, record this [ __ ] timestamp it, let us know any information you can. possibly get, report it.". said they'll look into it because they. know, I mean, and several of them are. having to deal with this personally. Is. this happening to. any of the other whistleblowers that you. know? I know it happens to Dr. Greer all. the time. Okay. Um I other whistleblowers I'm not sure.
Okay. It's not something that I'm you. know, maybe they do notice me or because. they're hyper vigilant with what's going. on because I mean, with what we're doing. is putting us in the spotlight but it's. also putting the [ __ ] crosshairs on. onto us. And the only thing I'm thankful is. coming public with this information at. at if something does happen. and I'm not going to rule that out. But if anything does happen and it kind. of proves what we're talking about to be. true. And the reason being is because they. would not be going through these. measures to try to intimidate for no. reason. Yep. We're keeping people up at.
night because of what we're talking. about and that needs to happen. Yeah. So, you know, and I've I even told these. government officials in that meeting. meetings that I'm like first and. foremost you guys need to understand. something. I am in a right state of mind to do. this. I don't feel like harming myself. I don't feel like, you know, because. everybody makes the joke that Epstein. didn't kill himself. No way in shape or form related to that, right? And um so same goes here. Like I. don't I have no means to harm myself. So. if anything happens. it's not from me.
Well, thanks for thanks for saying that. Well, yeah, I mean that needs to be on. record and people need to understand. that because if something does, it's not. because. I, you know, I turned a gun on myself or. anything like this. Specifically, I'm. going to talk about something um. El Toro El Toro um Marine Corps Air. Station El Toro. I'm sure you're. familiar with that. It was down in. California. Um there was a uh colonel there that was. They didn't even know that this was. going on on this base. They were but. they were flying flights in that had. drugs on them.
And they were unloading it on his base. and he found out about it so he went to. question them. Two days later they find him dead. Really? Yep. Is this on record anywhere you know? Yes, it is. You can Google this. information. Put Marine Colonel Marine. Corps Colonel uh suicide El Toro. Okay. Okay? You can pull this up. Anybody of. these viewers can do that, too. Um the family thought it was very. alarming because the circumstances. So. they did a second uh opinion for an. autopsy. and they said that there was extreme. blunt force trauma to his head which.
killed him. But then they had the. gunshot wounds so there was a shotgun. that were supposed to stage to look like. a suicide. And um. so I'm glad that the family actually got. the second opinion to say no it was. blunt force trauma to the back of the. head that killed him and they tried to. make it look like a suicide. And this is. a colonel and this thing that sucks. about this. is the Marine Corps itself actually. tried to use this as a tool to say you. know what suicide awareness is such a. big thing and it happens with every rank. and they were using this guy for this. purpose but then all of a sudden you. start delving into this information and.
seeing that you know the reports that he. was making about these illegal flights. coming in and they were unloading drugs. I mean it clearly. these guys it doesn't matter what rank. you are doesn't matter what position in. the government you have it doesn't. matter what you do for a living. If. you're going against what they're. exposing what they're doing. they're going to get you. So if something does happen I'm just. putting it out there that it's not for. my own doing. I don't [ __ ] piss anybody at maybe. you know maybe in the business world to. a degree but it's not enough for them to. sit there and and do something like that.
and I'm glad that I have a private. security firm where I've got some guys. who look out for my best interests and. they know what I'm doing. So they've got my back realistically. speaking. And you know and that's the thing too is. any other whistleblowers who are you. know like cuz I urge other people to. come out. If they're needing protection on the way. I'll help with that. I'll. orchestrate but two the other thing is. two coming out in the fashion that we. did. was the best because now the right. people in the government know. So it's. almost like. having a pitbull that's wanting to rip. you to [ __ ] shreds but you have this.
fence that's between you and this. pitbull. Mhm. And I feel like the government's going. to be that fence and along with the the. spotlight that this put me in. Yeah. Cuz. it's unsettling to sit there and see. these helicopters man it's just it's. it's hysterical you sit there and wave. at them but it's like keep wasting your. [ __ ] money. Let's talk about the. debrief that happened afterwards. Yes. What happened when you got back to your. command? So. when we got back on the ship we ended up. returning our weapons to the armory went. to our birthing put our gear away went. back to the flight deck there was this.
admiral there. I've never seen him. before I don't know who he is. But it was just very out of place. He. gave a debrief saying hey this was good. that you guys are doing for these people. which I agree with. But, I have no idea. who he was, but it was you know, I've. been on six ships, did several. humanitarian operations, and not once. have I ever seen an admiral on any of. them. You know, and this was minor compared to. the one in 2011 we did with uh Fukushima. and that natural disaster. Never seen an. admiral with that. Right? So, um it's just very out of place. So, we went to after we concluded this. operation, we end up docking in Subic.
Bay for some liberty. It was just like 4. days. So, the people that we encountered during. that event didn't even bother to take my. camera or anything. It was in my dump. pouch, but it was small enough, so I. don't know why they wouldn't have. searched it, but they missed it, right? So, here I am the whole time thinking. like, [ __ ] A, I've got something. I'm. not [ __ ] crazy, and neither of us are. crazy. Like, we've got something. actually backs up if we're to tell. anybody about this, and we can show them. pictures of it off of a camera, and not. something like a computer screen where. they can doctor it.
Well, uh I spoke too soon because when. we end up going out that that first day, we came back to report back to the ship, and I saw my camera on my rack. And the memory card was out of it, and. it was a big memory card. And the battery was out of it, and I. just see the camera sitting there. I'm. like, what the [ __ ]. So, I checked my locker. It was secure. because that's where I had it, and I had. some stuff on top of the camera in. there, you know, in my locker that were. on top of the camera. And I had another. battery in there, so I took that. battery, and I put it in there, and then. it wouldn't even turn the [ __ ] on.
And I had some people reach out to me. that said, you know, if you had that. camera still to this day that they could. do some data retrieval, and maybe able. to pick that up. I'm like, but I don't. have that camera. Um you know, it would I tossed it. because of the fact that it wouldn't. even turn on, it wouldn't do anything. I'm like, [ __ ] it's just a paperweight. And then and of course, 2009, you're not. thinking of anything with uh forensics, you know, where they could do something. There was people actually willing to do. that, which is great. So, somewhere out there somebody's got this. footage. Somebody's got that that tape. because there's some reason why they. took it. And fun fact is that the other.
five Marines that were with me, they had. their phones taken. Did you look at the pictures before Did. you Did you have a chance to look at the. pic? pictures and videos of it cuz I saw the. record thing and I actually can snap the. photos and you can see like it blink. That's how I would describe it. So, I. knew for a fact But you didn't go back. and review them. Okay. No. No. Why not? Um when I didn't see it, when. anybody see Okay. Just for that reason, you know, it was just something to keep. you know, if anybody doesn't know about. it, then. if I start telling people, then.
obviously there's things that may. happen. Mhm. And of course it did happen. regardless. Cuz as soon as we're out in town, all. these people, you know, I don't know who. it was who did this by the way, but they. didn't even cut my lock. They popped it. off somehow because they re you know, my. lock was still intact. So, these guys are obviously know how to. do it and I don't know who it was, but. all of a sudden the other Marines had. their stuff taken too. And anybody in. the platoon. they didn't have any of their stuff. touched. It was only us that were there. Did they take anything else? No. No.
So, after we get done with that, we end. up going back to Okinawa, right? And I'm you know, this is a regular. normal day. It's probably fast forward a. month after we end up getting back. All of a sudden the duty Marine. knocks on my door and says, "You need to. report up to the CP." I'm like, "Roger. that." So, I get my cover, run. downstairs, run over and there's nobody. there. I'm like, "What This is [ __ ] weird.". And all of a sudden like I go inside and. there's like this big opening of this. office and then they have like these. little offices that have these little.
doors they can walk into. So, all of a sudden I'm greeted by. somebody in. Air Force dress blues and he didn't have. a cover on, but he had the salt and. pepper hair, white complexion, older. gentleman. He didn't have a name tag on his. uniform, which come to find out Air. Force regulation states that you have to. have a name tag on your. uniforms. You know, Marine Corps we don't do that. unless it's our camouflage or if you're. drill instructor or some kind of. instructor or some sort of billet that. requires you to do that. So, um calls me over and I go over and. give him the proper greeting of the day. and then he tells me go ahead and sit.
down over here in this office. So, I sit down. And he just he doesn't even bother to. sit down. He just says. Just you though, wasn't the other five. Marines No, they end up having the same. thing happen, but this guy did it. separately. It's all individual. Yes. Okay. It wasn't all together. So, um. he told us again. with what you guys saw, you are not. allowed to report this, you're not. allowed to talk about it to your family, not to your chain of command. I don't. care if a general won't even ask you. You can go to prison for this, you could. be executed. If you want to chance that, by all.
means, but you need to sign this. So, I take the paper and I look at it. and it's a non-disclosure agreement. The. only two things I can recall to this day. is that it said uh TSSC-I. and it said Indonesia. Hm. Those are the only things I could. recall. But, I skimmed through it and I. [ __ ] signed it because here I am. thinking that okay, we're just going to. forget about this whole [ __ ] ordeal. And yet, this is getting thrown in our. face and here's somebody threatening our. [ __ ] lives here with, you know, prisonment, death, things like that if. we're to talk about this. Did you ask. him any questions? I I tried to ask him.
who he was and he didn't say anything. There's some speculation going on about. this because people who know about this, um whether it's other whistleblowers and. other people have come forward. previously, have said that um. these guys have the ability to. impersonate or even play off as their um. military officials or anybody for that. matter in the government to try to. extract information to see what you. know. So, I'm not you know, because it's it's. odd that he didn't have a name tag. He. had the the only thing I could tell is. that he had a stack of ribbons, you.
know, Air Force gives ribbons and medals. for just about anything, but. he had silver jump wings and the only. thing I could recall. So, other people. I've talked to in the military community. are still active, um just trying to get. information. And now they know because. I've came out. They were saying that it had that if it. was an Air Force officer, it has to do. with someone Air Force intelligence. Cuz a lot of them had jump wings and. that's kind of thing that they like to. do. He says cuz he didn't have any pilot. wings or nothing that would signify he. was a pilot. It was just those silver. jump wings. Yeah. Just with the. parachute and they had the wreath that.
come up like this. That's the only thing. and obviously he had the silver oak. leaves on his collar on his. shoulders. But um so after doing dealing with that, it's like okay. Signed it. I'm like. great, you know, just [ __ ] leave it. behind. The rest of my career. don't tell anybody about it. You know, didn't tell my family. I told my dad. before I end up going getting out of. active duty and going reserves. Um I. said, you know, there's some something I. got to tell him. And he even told me this, you know, when. I started coming out publicly about it.
and after I had gotten through the right. part of the government to go ahead and. proceed with this. And now he understands what I was trying. to tell him because I said I have just. have to wait for the right time to do. this because I I don't know. I'm kind of. freaked out, you know, something. And um. at that point 2017, that's when I met. Dr. Greer and then fast forward to. recently in April. um making this happen with the. government and telling them and. testifying. and um briefing them what's going on, you know. So the flak that I'm seeing. with this is, you know, there was a guy.
apparently was a Marine that came out. with Dr. Greer that was like more than. 10 years ago. I think his name was. Joshua or something like that. And he was a stinger operator, so he was. like an anti-air gunner if you want to. call it that. I don't know the MOS. But apparently. he was in South America and he witnessed. a crash retrieval. And um. so he stated the same thing. This paramilitary organization. kind of looked very similar. Obviously. this was in the '90s, so they didn't. look that dissimilar to what I saw.
But he talked to paramilitary. organization. He talked about the noise that this. craft made that he saw that was shot. down and had a hole in it. So it was a. guitar amp because that's the only way. to describe it. If it's reverse. engineered. it's going to mimic the same kind of. technology that these actual crafts. have, right? This paramilitary organization, well, yes, that's how they operate. They're. not going to be identified in any kind. of way. It's going to be a generic black. uniforms and gear. So, of course. And you know, everybody's. like, oh, you know, at least the Reddit. that I'm seeing and they said, oh, the.
Air Force lieutenant colonel. Okay, that's another thing and may it probably. wasn't the same guy, but the same method. There's only one word that comes to. that. It's called corroboration. Yeah. And it's not the first time that. this guy is saying it. It's not the. first time that other people have said. this, but the thing is people only pay. attention them when stuff's thrown in. their face such as what I'm doing. And what these other people are doing. There's going to be people who are going. to come out after me who are going to. talk about um the same thing. I know I'm not the only one.
And maybe get one of my Marines, you. know, that were there um. to actually come forward and maybe, you. know, ideally it'd be all of them, but I. know how this goes. And one guy. responded when I had uh these government. officials and Dr. Greer trying to bring. one of them forward and he said. absolutely not. He sent a text message. saying, it's not worth the not worth the. risk to my family, my life, my career. cuz he's still in the military. He's a. commissioned officer now. And uh he was very repetitive about that. and he says, don't ever ask me to do. this [ __ ] again and you need to get the. [ __ ] out of whatever you're in.
But it's the response him when I asked. him to do this and that's where he. responded to. What else could it be? Yeah. So, in a sense that kind of corroborates. it, but it corroborates the seriousness. of how they're in fear of their life. Yeah. The other guy, I didn't hear from. anything. And they even taking my social. media down because after I started. coming forward, I just don't want people. blowing up my [ __ ] inboxes trying to. ask me details or questions or try to. get interviews. You know, I'm not about that. I'm not, you know, the fact that our lives are. kind of coming to hell to a degree. because of being pursued with these.
helicopters and things like that. There's other ramifications that may. happen that I'm not aware of, but you. know what? There's a risk to things and. that's how this is going to happen. If. that's what's chosen, then I just got to. figure out how to mitigate that as well. Well, let's talk about we had spoken. offline a little earlier about all the. media that's reached out. I know you had. an article in the Daily Mail. Daily Mail and then obviously the other. facets are related Daily Mail published. this. Well, they misconstrued a lot of that. and then they end up going in from David. Grusch to bashing Dr. Greer about it. So, it was something that they trying to. use like to get people's attention and.
they go into this [ __ ] narrative. You know, I've had uh NewsNation, I've. had CNN, I've had MSNBC that reached out. um through LinkedIn, through other. emails, you know, because of there's my. email gets blasted all over the place. these days and I've got four emails. So, I'm I get the [ __ ] shitty one I hand. out to people cuz I don't want to get. spammed through my business emails. because that's money that's sitting on. the table if need be. And um. I declined every single one of them. Because I know that they're going to. push this false narrative then false. narratives that they're they're evil ETs.
and this is what David Grusch is pushing. now. Saying that you know, they're malevolent. and they seen people ETs die or you. heard ETs kill people and things like. that. Well, first and foremost, if there. is a species of extraterrestrial that's. out there. and they happen to be [ __ ]. malevolent, it's not wise to shoot their. [ __ ] down or kill any of them because. guess what? These they're highly. advanced. If they can make this kind of. stuff, imagine what they can do if they. weaponize it. You know, so it's it's something that. you know, this needs to stop because all. it's doing is this pepper. it's just.
portraying fear out to people. Yeah. They did this with COVID. You see the. response of that. People are still. living this way living like COVID exists. to this day which it probably does, but. it's not nearly. as damaging as what people are saying. as bad as was hyped up to No, it wasn't. and you still have people [ __ ] afraid. of their lives. And this is the thing. that is sad to see that. So, this whole now that people are. thinking about this going on, now. they're all of a sudden worst case is. going to happen. It's just this whole. fear being uh.
portrayed in the media to try to scare. the [ __ ] out of people either get. ratings or try to get people tuned in. their networks is just ridiculous. It's. more you know, it's more of a personal. game for them because they they get. money off of views. So. Now that you've set the record straight, do you think you'll go on any of these. media outlets? No. No? I'm not looking to get [ __ ] famous. from this, dude. Yeah. I just want to get this information out. This ain't going to get I you know, I've. had tried people try to approach me a. book deals and [ __ ] like that. I'm like, get the [ __ ] out of here. This has nothing to do with trying to.
get money. This is trying to make sure. that and this isn't I'm not trying to. convince the public here. And then I'm. getting that on record, too. This isn't. trying to convince the [ __ ] public. that this is real. I'm trying to. convince the government and thankfully. they are convinced enough to actually do. something about it. That's my main. objective with this. Because of when. they come out and they start talking. about the bills that they're talking. about legislation because of people like. me standing up along with other. whistleblowers coming out and talking. about the same kind of corroboration. that there's man-made stuff going on, that there's nefarious activities going. on behind the scenes that nobody knows.
about, and they're making money. illegally, and they're murdering or. killing people doing it. I'm glad you're doing it. I'm I'm glad, too, man. And it scares the [ __ ] out of. me. I wake up every day unsure like what. the [ __ ] going to happen, but that's. why you got to take it day by day. And. at the end of the day, there's people. looking out for me, which is great, in. the government and spiritually as well. Good. You know, and and that's where I'm. going to thrive with this because guess. what? If they can silence me, but they can't. silence the [ __ ] truth. And they've. been trying to silence the truth for far. too long. And it needs to it needs to stop. And.
there's anybody whistleblowers, too, this is the thing I'm going to urge. Anybody who has any information with. this, whether it witness some more. things with this, whether you know, you're on the opposite spectrum. If. you're anybody who's working in these. programs, I know there's people who are. listening to your show about this, by. the way, who are probably on that side. of the coin. [ __ ] man up and come the [ __ ] out. Yeah. You got to stop the [ __ ] And. anybody who knows about this, well, guess what? If you know the truth and. you're not revealing it, then you're. complicit to it, too. So, um I'm urging get a hold of me. I.
mean, I'm I'll throw my email if you can. put that link in and most of all get a. hold of Dr. Greer. I'll put that link in. there. Okay. But yeah, Dr. Greer, I mean, he's. a he's been a good resource and people. need to understand just like you need to. understand with this. He is basically a sounding board for all. of us who have come in forward and all. he's doing is relaying information that. he knows from people. He's got a strict. vetting process with this. I know people. going to test that out as. whistleblowers. The fact is he's not just going to take. anybody's word because yeah, somebody. said something. Right. to him. I just interviewed him, as you.
know, and I asked him how did he. decipher who. the bullshitters are from the real ones. and uh, we went into that cuz I I think. that's extremely important. is. And it's not he's just he's just not. taking anybody's word for it. Yeah. I I. mean, he asked me repeatedly, you know, in law enforcement especially, you know, the tactics they use is they ask the. similar questions and especially the. meeting I had with the Pentagon and and. all these other agencies, it's like they ask the same thing. because they do they do interrogations. on a daily basis. Mhm. But the fact is.
my story is not going to [ __ ] change. The way that I'm doing details is not. going to change. My simple task with. this is just to tell people what. happened. Good. That's it. I'm not trying to gain profit. I don't. want to be [ __ ] famous. The only. thing I If I'm going to be famous for. this, the only thing I want to be famous for. is oh, that's the guy that [ __ ] stood. up and wasn't afraid to do it and he got. the truth out there. Good for you. If I can [ __ ] live with that, perfect. by all means. Well, Michael, I know it takes a lot of courage to do. what you're doing, man, and I just I.
commend you for it and it's an honor to. have you in here. Well, Sean, thank you, man. And what. you're doing. on your networks, your podcasts, your. YouTube, I mean, you have a big big. audience. and I hope, you know, I got I got people. trying to poke holes, go for it. I don't. give a [ __ ] what they think. They. weren't [ __ ] there with me. They. weren't there with my Marines. They want. to talk [ __ ] go for it. I got one last. question. Yeah. If you could say anything to the other. five Marines that were on the ground. with you that day,
cuz they might be watching, what would. you say to them? Don't [ __ ] leave me hanging, guys. And don't leave me hanging. You know, we're family. We're [ __ ] brothers. We. went through this [ __ ]. You know, and I get that you're you're. you got family. I get that you got kids. I got, you know, moving on. But [ __ ] man. I mean, you see what I'm. trying to do with this. And I'm just. trying to get the truth. You know, I I I. hope that they do. And if I can't get. them to come out and at least understand. that, you know, yeah, there may be some. aspects that are uncomfortable,
you know, with what I'm having to deal. with, but it's just the reality of. things. It's not pretty. But if you got the [ __ ] balls to do. it, you know, I don't have kids, you. know, me, I still got a lot to lose at. the end of the day. And I know they do, too. But the fact is, I'm just sick and tired. of people bitching about things and not. doing anything about it. Me, too. And. it's all a bunch of talk in this [ __ ]. world. It's all a bunch of talk. It's all I see on social media. That's. why I'm glad I'm off of that. You know. what I mean? That's why I'm glad I'm off, because. guess what? I don't get to see that. anymore. I get to focus on what I'm. trying to do. And And for me, having.
people reach out to me that have open. minds and are like, you know what? I. actually heard about something like this. happening in Vietnam. Or they're like, I. heard about this happening in 2004. And. then there's people who are coming out. that are participating in these. operations unknowingly, because they. think the constitutionality of it's. legal. And it's not. And that's why this is. happening, because these people think. that at the end of the day they're doing. something that's oversight. And they. don't know that degree. It's very. compartmentalized, as you know, being a. CIA. You know, they only know what they're. told. And they don't want to know what. they're briefed on and what they're. allowed to have access to. It depends on.
what they're doing. That's how they keep. it secret. Yes, they do. And not everybody's going. to know that. You know, so I I hope that anybody who's. in those industries understands that, you know, if there's anything that seems. off, you know, don't approach it how the guy. that was at the Pentagon that talked. about US forces being uh involved in. Ukraine. I'm sure you heard about that, cuz you saw FBI HRT raid his house and. took him into custody. And he's probably. going to sit in prison for the rest of. his life because of revealing classified. information on these platforms. Yeah.
I'm not doing that. And these guys that. are doing are with me that are doing. this, they're not doing it either. And the thing is is because he did it. that way means it's illegal because it's. classified material to a degree. It may. be illegal, but. he screwed that up. Now, the way that we. approached it was because we contacted. the government and said, "Hey, this is what I know. This is what I was. to. And they were of course, because I. approached it in the right way, they're. going to reward you with the protection, with the law that they passed to make. sure that you are well protected.
regardless of what happens in a legal. fashion. So, these other whistleblowers need to. understand that. So, they can come forward, they're going to have the same. protections. That's why I can paint them. a picture and tell them what to expect. I can point them in the direction of who. they need to talk to. You know, and and just they the humanity. needs to understand that this false. narrative that's going to be portrayed. in the media such as alien invasions and. stuff like that. It's been planned since. the '50s. There's documentation talking. about this as far as SAIC or Science.
Applications International Corporation. talks about the stagecraft. You know, honestly, if you're somebody who's such. a high and high developed species or. something like that, it's like walking. by ants. Yeah. Are you going to [ __ ]. with them? No, you're just like there's. [ __ ] ants. You just walk by. I feel. like the same thing that they do with. us. Yeah. Why are they going to [ __ ] try to. [ __ ] with us? But the same thing, we all. of a sudden start shooting them down and. then reverse engineering their stuff and. then trying to weaponize it and then. we're using it against each other. for nefarious activities. Trying to use.
[ __ ] you know, these advanced projects to do very. illegal, very dangerous stuff. It's just. it blows my mind how much this goes. down. Yeah. You know, I I just my goal. is just to hopefully get this [ __ ]. changed. Well, I hope it does. Me too, buddy. We'll be praying for you. Thank. you. Cheers. Thank. Hey everybody, I'm Shawn Ryan. Click.
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