Luis Chaparro - Inside the World's Deadliest Cartel | SRS #023

hey everybody my next guest luis  chaparro gives us some of the most. up-to-date yet alarming information  coming right out of the sinaloa cartel. he talks about the next drug that's being  developed that's already introduced into. the united states it's going to overtake fentanyl  it's more deadly and more addictive than fentanyl. this is a really important one to listen to you  guys don't mind it's getting very hard to reach.

my audience please hit the like button leave  us a comment and hit the subscription button. and hit the notification bell turn that to all so  you guys get notified every time we do a release. we're really starting to crank out these  shows and everybody that's been here. i want to thank you all for the support it means  the world to me and my family i love you all. enjoy the show one last thing there is a  behind-the-scenes interview on my patreon that.

covers how the chinese are helping the mexican  drug cartels manufacture this stuff it's a ton. of good information on there it's patreon  exclusive and one last thing north carolina. you guys got a beautiful state my family  wants to say thank you too right buddy. time for a diaper change when people  ask me like why do you do what you do.

why why do you in bed with those guys why  do you go and talk to them what do you risk. your life going to them i'm not stupid  i mean i get i get scared as well i get. i mean i'm up it's not like i'm not i  don't get scared and i want to go with them. i get [ __ ] scared it's scary to be around  because you never know what's going to happen. you know yeah i mean i think most people think  that a heroin addict is a bomb on the street. heroin addicts are doctors lawyers yeah dentists  cops everybody that was a setup that was up i mean.

china is trying to achieve global domination and  they're going to achieve it as sophisticated as. smart as these cartels seem to be  they're inserting these chemists. a source told me that there is a new  thing a thousand times more powerful than.

fentanyl and it's hard to even  find it in the news i had to call. a doctor called a proper chemist to  learn about those stuff and it's called.

what's going on patreon. join me on vigilance elite patreon  for our live video teleconference. louise ryan how are you doing man good man great  to see you again it's good to have you back i mean. it seems like it was a long ago but it wasn't  even that i think it was only like six months. yeah six six nine months six or nine months it  felt it felt like a lot well you're gonna be.

the first person to officially be on the show two  times i i really appreciate that man that's that's. interesting and especially especially because of  these few months i've been doing a lot of stuff. yeah you've done so you've done so on  your recent trip to mexico you went. and you went to a fentanyl lab where they  turn is it paste it it's uh it's a pills.

these blue m30 peels but they turn the paste  into the pills they're right press depress the. the paste and basically get it ready for  export yes and you went to the sonola cartels. training camp tactical training camp because  you were there how long were you there just. for a night just for a night and then you partied  with one of the head honchos yes my birthday is. uh january 19th so i happened to be on my birth  on my 35th birthday in in culiacan sinaloa and.

i ended up hardly partying with uh with some  of the mario zambara people that was pretty. interesting yeah no i mean not as interesting as  i thought it was gonna be because they're still. regular people but it was interesting to to hang  out with these guys you know like especially on. my birthday yeah that was crazy well something  you did do to prove that you were down there. which i wasn't sure how i i kind of i was like  oh man yeah you put my vigilance elite swag.

on cartel and i was like man that's cool he's  like really down there doing it then i was like. yeah the cartel is wrapping my my brand right now  but yeah i appreciate it you know what i mean for. i appreciate it for what it is and man it was  just only you know i was i was trying to do like. a joke between us you know i never published that  because i don't know if you wanted to be you know.

you will feel that way like okay my brand is now  associated with those guys and it was something. just because i had the uh the hat on that day  that night when we went out um i took it to. the culiacan and and one of the guys was  asking me like man they're gonna know me. because of my hair one of the cool guys  in the phantom lab they he asked me for. sunglasses which i which i didn't have but  another man there had a like dark sunglasses. and then he asked me for the cap and i was like  you know what this might be interesting so yeah.

by all means yeah go ahead and i never didn't  even tell him what the brand was about or anything. i was just like having it you like it and it's  like man this is pretty good this is and he saw. like i don't know if they um i don't know the  tag and he was like this is a pretty good one. and i'm like you can keep it so another  a vigilance elite cap around that yeah. no no worries at first i was i was like oh this  party isn't going to go good but you know what.

like i appreciate i appreciate i appreciate it  and if people take it the wrong way that's on them. yeah man i mean it was only you know meant to  to make like a like it was it was completely. unplanned um he wanted to have a cap because of  his hair because he had colder hair um and and i. just like thought it was gonna be funny so that's  that's why i didn't post it anywhere i just like. send it out to you you know like hey man i'm gonna  put it up right now okay that's so cool yeah i'm.

gonna put it up right now and and uh and since  you gave all my swag away to uh cartel members. well i got you a little research oh man thank  you thanks a lot yeah um i was just telling you. i have the um i had a bunch of speakers all over  my laptop and some of the people now is getting to. well i was always very praised at the airport in  el paso i was like oh you're going to the show. and is that your friend i'm like i'm actually  going on the show there's like no way i followed.

that guy the the um i think it was a cbp officer  at the airport and he was like super stoked about. your show that's awesome that's pretty cool man  this gummy bears well if he's still there when you. get back tell him i said hello yeah definitely  i'm gonna hide this from my kid man keep them. for my for myself all the bags and thanks for  i promised this woman hey whatever you need to. do with it but get you out of a pinch use it this  will not end up in um cartel hands man no worries.

thanks thanks a lot man i really appreciate  it yeah but um before we kind of dive deep. into what you've been doing uh i'd like to so  patreon my are my top supporters and they they. basically support us and that's what enables us to  do the show and and everything that we're doing so. i promise them that i will ask a question and  then after this uh if you're okay with it i'd.

like to do a full q a they got a ton of questions  for you sure man but i thought this one was pretty. good this is from jonathan bush and basically what  he's asking is how many regular folks in sinaloa. are dependent on the cartel for jobs especially  the non-violent jobs and then he wants to know. if the cartels in any way are helping the locals  down there by building schools or anything of that. nature so it sounds like are they doing kind of  like what pablo escobar used to do back in the 80s.

yeah i mean it's hard to tell how many of them  are but i can tell you there are a lot of people. relying on cartel jobs as you might know mexico is  not doing great economically there's a lot of uh. like bad paid jobs you know underpaid and  and there's there's no a lot of jobs that's. that's why many many people was trying to  get into the us as well we saw an economic.

migration back in the 2000s and now  it's coming all over again because of. the lack of jobs in mexico but guess what  cartels are stepping in to fill that gap. of of jobs and they're paying not too  bad i mean they're paying way better than. than a factory or whatever regular job you can  get in mexico of course it has a lot of risks um. embedded with with it but uh but there's a lot  of people especially sinaloa and now michoacan.

those places men are are filled with non-violent  jobs which might mean um they have these guys. called operators and what they do is they listen  to uh radio frequencies from the police or from. uh mexican military and they reply all that they  record the whole um the whole um frequencies the. whole messages and they keep repeating that on  to cartel frequencies oh and that's in an office. you know with weather and everything good um and  they get paid well they they get like a thousand.

pesos a month which is i mean it's shitty  but not too bad for an uneducated mexican. a thousand pesos a month would be about 250  it's about 500 okay those dollars so i mean. a month it's not too bad for an uneducated  mexican in rural areas it's actually pretty. good um alconis these guys who are basically  lookouts um just stepping in heels and waiting.

there for months and reporting everything they see  around money launderers um the people who takes. out money from extortions or kidnappings you know  they get paid like 20 of the amount of the ransom. um usually women um you know usually uh old  women can go into a store you know like a. money express or that kind of stuff where they  can get out money and then break it to the cartel.

there's a lot of there's a lot of that stuff going  on even even people who has like small restaurants. and they have to take out food for a big army  out in the woods in michoacan or in sinaloa. they get paid well because i mean they get  compensated on top of their payment for. the service of food you know wow there's there's a  lot of people man that it's uh that relies on that. so the cartels are actually boosting the  economy yes they are a lot what would a if. if a baseline low-level cartel job non-violent  pays 500 a month what would a baseline civilian.

somebody making an honest living you know without  being associated with the cartels what would. what would that be a month like a baseline i  think a month it would be like 200 150 bucks. you know so i mean even double in their income yes  mexico you can consider wealthy if you're earning. uh 30 000 pesos which is um 1500 bucks a month  that's that's like though you know you you rank as.

wealthy so imagine that i mean you you can't make  a living out of 55 1500 bucks in the u.s you know. it's too low that's a lot of an income but that  means that you're kind of wealthy in mexico if. you earn that so so yeah there's i mean imagine  that i'm talking about like someone who studied. and has a university and works at a proper place  maybe in government or some stuff like that that. would be the top one exactly so wow there's  a lot of people obviously earning much more.

than that like business owners and you know um but  uh but that's like the average you know like the. average people who has a family and everything  it's it's around 1500 um 2 000 bucks a month. wow i think the top 1 percent in the u.s is  considered a hundred thousand dollars or more. hundred thousand i believe that they have changed  that's a huge gap but well it sounds like they. don't have any very many options when it comes  to the job market exactly and and the other thing.

that he asked is uh if they're helping out  people and i mean i wouldn't really call that. help because it's coming from the violent place  from about i mean the same harm that they're doing. that's it's on balance with the help there there  yeah so i would call it like what aid maybe um. and it's a strategy uh i mean it's not even  that they're building schools because every. every christmas for example that will take out  food on these nice um baskets of food with the.

message from el mencho from catholichalisco  generation or from mayo zambada or even. still even behind bars from permal chapel and  also these baskets filled with i don't know. meat and cans of food and some money you know  that is best for 3 000 bucks which is around. 150 bucks uh that would say like that will  go to the rural areas and deliver a bunch of.

those baskets and so like this is from from the  viejon you know this is from from the boss yeah. the pencil deposits around that area so he's one  of hearts and minds yes there's a very old tactic. very old tactic they're trying to earn social  bases you know and to take it away from government. that's basically what they do it what do the  locals think of that do they do they fall into it. yes yeah yeah you have to know that most mexicans  around rural areas like that um they're not as.

educated to know that that's a tactic that that's  it's it's a it's a plan they just think that. these people they're doing harm but they're not  harming us you know they feel like okay we know. they are at war with the government but they are  earning social bases because most of these people. think like you know what the military what is the  military doing for us nothing they just come here. kill us beat us rob us but these guys are  actually bringing in help they build the. school they're giving a basket since christmas  baskets in um i don't know in every holiday yeah.

protecting us taking care of us that's that's the  feeling that happened that's obviously dangerous. for for any country in the world you know because  that's that's how insurgencies are born basically. yeah well let's dive in where do you want to  start you want to start what did you do first. well what i did was i was trying to put up a  story about these blue peels these m30 blue pills.

popping up in the u.s that they used to be heroin  pills and now they are switching to fentanyl. many of the people many of the users they don't  even know that there's fentanyl now which is. like a thousand times more powerful than heroin  so there there's there's a lot of overdoses all. over the us uh because of these blue pills canada  too again in canada too yes you know in canada as. well so i wanted to learn like what who's making  these bills what's in it why how do they learn.

to switch from heroin to fentanyl so i called my  source in in guliyakan and asked him like if i can. embed with him and he told me one thing that now  things are different el chapo out and with the us. um raising the uh the amount of of the of the rent  of the money they want for the for the chapitos. um it's like five million for each of of the sons  of chapel and also for the brother of el chapo and.

for mario zambada so the us is stepping up  and at least in sending out a message that. they're going after them um so he told me like  this this time it's different this time you won't. see you know the lambos out in the street all the  flashy people you wouldn't see like there aren't. people just like driving the pickup trucks and the  in the labs because the last time i was there they. had like a huge lap in outdoors and wherever we  share that the last time now everything is inside.

and small apartments residential areas you know  they have a facade you know like the coop uh the. cook has to make it seems like he has a family  so his wife gets his wife gets home every night. they invite over neighbors so they know that  nothing's going on in that residential area but. behind doors they're cooking a bunch so are you  are you saying that they've moved everything from.

out in the woods or out in the bush to indoors  or this is the next step in the process no they. moved everything so it's complete they've already  restructured their entire fentanyl operation yeah. the entire like criminal operation everything now  the order is like you cannot go out with a lambo. you know with flashy cars everybody's gonna move  in nissan versus like family cars like that um. if you wanna carry weapons you're no longer  allowed unless you're doing an operation you're.

no longer no longer allowed to go out with a case  in the streets you're gonna have a handgun you. know like a nine millimeter or some stuff like  that um laboratories are going to be indoors. and smaller quantities but more laboratories  they've moved it under completely underground. they're on the ground yes well looking at  looking at this new operation it looks up. it looks a hell of a lot more sophisticated  than what you showed us last time. definitely man i mean it feels it feels  less uh sophisticated because of course.

when you have a footage from a lab outdoors which  is like a huge tab cooking out of a huge pot and. now you go to a house and they have like this  small pot and they're just like one cook there. and you will see it seems like nothing's really  happening here it's this is not even attractive. for for news you know because it looks like very  small but when they tell you like we have left. here and then another there and then another one  there and then another one there and you see like.

they have up over 200 [ __ ] laps around the city  they were like wow this is even a bigger operation. but just very fragmented and that that works  as well for them because if they get a laugh. they won't lose that much money you know  they'll just move to another location and. and they will only lose one lap out of a [ __ ]  200 so that works for them man these guys are good. yeah they move quick they move fast yes and um  and they show me uh a voice message they got from.

what they say was el viejon which is mario zambada  i can't corroborate it was el mayo but his people. was telling me that this was a message recently  from el mayo calling everyone because they said. like i don't want to see you with cameras i  don't want to see you posting stuff in social. media i'm paying you to be wires to cook and not  to be youtube stars so he prohibited all cameras.

around the place so like you know like videos and  clips so that was targeting me directly that was. affecting me directly when i this last time  i was there so they were like pretty nervous. pretty skeptical about taking me up there with a  with a camera so i what they wanted to do is like. we're gonna record everything on on my cell  phone and then and then share it to you and. i'm like nah but that's not gonna work for me  i need to i need to be able to record at least. on my own phone you know um and yeah they said  okay after negotiating a bit but yeah apparently.

if they don't want anybody if they don't want any  of this getting out why why would they allow you. how how does it work when you call your  contact does that run up the chain to is that. is that basically run through an approval process  yes different levels have to approve that you're. coming in exactly but not not all the way up  because otherwise i would i will never be able.

to to go inside on these operations these guys  trust me because i've been talking with them for. eight years now you know and they know i'm  not putting them at risk i'm never sharing. their information i'm never sharing their  names their whereabouts you know i just go. for what i for what i go and when they say  something like you know what leave this out or. can you change my voice or can you hide my face  because i noticed you moved the cell phone and. then you caught a little bit of my face i will  just do it you know because i don't want to be.

in bad terms with that especially with  something that it's not going to be useful. you know what i mean i wouldn't be any of  any use to me to share who these guys are. you know everybody knows the military knows um  the other traffickers knows who these guys are. and they're still operating and that's for a  reason they have their own arrangements and. i'm not gonna get in the middle of that [ __ ]  you know i just wanna tell a story and say like. this is the reality when you're talking about  fentanyl this is what you're getting when you're. using m30 pills this is how they're made um i had  because i posted the video on on my channel like a.

small video and um and i had a guy said like man  i think i'm stopping using that stuff now that i. know exactly where this [ __ ] coming from because  it looks like all like super unhealthy of course. what uh i'm just curious before we dive into  production um are they aware that this footage. is going to be on this show not not specifically  on this show but they know that i was going to.

share that for for news you know did they see  your last show here they see they saw that yes. i mean many of them don't speak english they just  ask me what was that about and i told them that. this was a youtube channel i of course told them  that you had an extensive background in military. and that that was pretty cool and they were like  uh and my guy was like is he do you think he's. tracking you when you come here and i'm like no  man like i i don't think so and he's like okay.

okay and obviously they asked questions they  asked me like what are you doing what is this for. uh like the uh a german uh that i met  recently and we went to culiacan and. um they had her investigated you know  because i told them like they're germans. that they came back at me and said like well  they're germans but they live in the u.s man. they're not germans they're from the us and  i'm like oh [ __ ] how do you know that and.

it's like we investigated them who were they and  yeah they're up from the out of washington dc. and i'm like wow seems like you have a good team  recently you know so yes i mean they know that i. that i obviously if i if i go there and i have my  phone out that's for sharing you know okay and and. yeah because a lot of stuff they asked me to leave  out a lot of stuff and and sometimes they push. the line you know sometimes i do push the line and  say like hey man i need to record this and they're. like no no and i'm like man trust me on this  one i'm not going to share location or anything.

like on my way there they're like no way you can  film your way there and i'll yeah but i need some. roadshows you know to edit on my story and they're  like you can do that somewhere else but not here. interesting okay so sometimes i have to you know  do roadshots not there but on any other highway. yeah so yeah interesting well let's let's get into  production yeah so first the first place i went.

into was a as i was telling you a residential  house we went in um by night like 10 10 p.m um. and they had everything set up but that that first  in that first laboratory it was not a laboratory. properly that was first like a packaging station  they have everything sealed back to you vacuum. they had some detergent to wash the bags they  won't smell have a bunch of different stuff.

and they cook explained me that all everything  that he was packing there was going to go to the. border of mexicali or tijuana to get smuggling to  san diego calexico and then way up into the u.s. so i asked many questions down there like why did  you started doing this job and he was like well. i'm i'm an engineer and i don't get that much of  a money from from being an engineer and then a.

friend of mine who was in into this he told me  that i was going to get him if i wanted to get. involved in cooking pills that was not dangerous  that i'm not going to be on the front lines or. or involving any violent environment um did you  say cocaine pills yeah no fentanyl pills oh okay. i might have said cocaine bills right do they have  cocaine pills no i don't think so i didn't think. so i don't know no fentanyl the m30s so he was  like and how much are they going to pay and they.

pay him around 500 grand a month which is not  bad 500 thousand dollars a month no i'm sorry. no 5 000 5 000 1 000 bucks a month yeah yeah and  i mean it's not bad you know in mexico that's uh. that's like the ten ten thousand  uh a hundred thousand pesos a month. is doing well man i mean that's a lot of  money for for a mexican on his level and um so.

they brought in a chinese chemist same story as  the other lab i went the last the last time they. told me again about these chinese chemists  coming over but apparently the other chemist. who came over was teaching them to lays fentanyl  with with heroin the quantities and how to take. care of fentanyl and all that stuff but right now  they teach him how to do peels how to press pills.

how to test them for quality um all that stuff  so and i was like how did that happen and it's. like well we had a translator between us um  this chemist was here for about three months. just showing me the process he was like you  don't get to ask questions you just get to. see and stay put so i learned and took notes for  three months and after three months he was like. okay now it's your turn to cook i'm not gonna  say anything i'm not gonna answer questions.

you're going to do a batch and we're going to  send it over to the u.s and if it works and if. the people get we get good feedback then  you're set and the chinese chemist is out. and he started cooking and apparently they sent  off his package to the us he made it well they. got feedback that pills were good and and  he was like okay now you're cook now man. are they is this a whole nother team of  chinese chemists no it's a whole other team yes.

a whole different group yes then the one than the  ones uh than the one i told you last time right. yeah the outdoors thing yeah that was completely  different team are the sorry what is the pill. m35 m30 m30 are those straight fentanyl  straight pencil yes so they went from. lacing heroin to fentanyl to now it's straight  fentanyl fentanyl yes and this is all basically. derived from china yes exactly yeah  yeah yeah they've got a great long game.

yeah man i mean it's it's interesting because they  don't they don't see they they don't really see. the long run they don't see the whole situation  there because i was like why china why chinese and. i'm like i don't know i'm just following orders my  boss got a hook of a man in china and i'm like how. how does it get a hold of a chemist in china  all the way from sinaloa you know and it's like. apparently a militant mexican military member  told him that that this military member was.

posted in manzanillo which is the main port of  imports from china where the big um containers. come from china it's manzanillo um colima which  is like a [ __ ] war right now and no wonder why. um so this military was set up in that port uh  and he somehow met this chinese organization. bringing in precursors that was a setup that was  a i mean that's a setup china is trying to achieve.

global domination and they're going to achieve it  and yeah and succeeding i mean because you got to. think there's chemists all over the world all over  the world it can't be that hard to find somebody. that knows how to make fentanyl i mean i don't  imagine it'll be easy but you don't have to go. all the way across the world to find a chemist  they're they're inserting these chemists or or in.

into into mexico knowing that it's killing  the population of the united states and canada. yeah because those are the guys like in  charge of telling kooks the quantities. and if the quantities are killing people in the  us that means the [ __ ] quantities of the drug. are being controlled by china you know yeah they  come here and they say like okay you put these. much amount of fentanyl and then you put this much  amount of acetone and this much amount of alcohol.

and this much amount of something to make  the paste the cameraman what was that. and then you add uh the color the blue vegetable  color to make the because different markets asks. for different colors you know like in chicago  apparently they don't like that blue they are. used to like sort of like a greenish peel so they  add like more uh yellowish and then blue and if.

they're cooking for uh los angeles market they  will say like okay they wanted like dark blue so. we're gonna have like more blue so they have the  whole so they so it's basic it's the exact same. it's the exact same substance just different  colors different colors because because if people. in the street see like they're used to a greenish  peel and they they see like a pink one they will. say like no this is i don't know what this is  and they start getting suspicious of the peel. and not selling enough so they have to know  exactly which market is used to which caller.

so well that makes sense so you mentioned there's  what 200 labs ish estimated 200 labs and where. were you one city culiacan which is not even  that big of a city you know so is each lab. in charge of like a different city no i think  each uh each lab it's for a whole organization. which is the myosampada organization okay um well  there's another one which is inaudible cartel as.

well which is the faction of those chapitos the  chapel sons and they're kind of like fighting. who's gonna get on top of the chain of the sinaloa  cartel um but now the u.s raising the uh the um. stockholm branson how do you call it it's a reward  for los chapitos and and for el mayo zambada. that kind of like make them stick together  again they were like starting a fight and now. that action was like okay we'll fight later let's  stick together to survive this and you cook your.

own thing i'm gonna cook my own thing so they  started like cooking but we're talking about. each day every day his work is to produce  50 000 pills 50 000 each day 150 000 pills. a day one lap times 200 i don't i have no idea  what that is i have no idea either but that's. that's why the us is getting these huge  busts and that might be only 10 of the whole.

you know pills coming over the border at least  that's what that what uh what a cbp officer told. me do you have a calculator on your phone  50 000 pills a day times 200 let me 50 000. times 200 that's 10 million times 365.

that's the number that even  calculated that's like 3 billion and. i don't know three billion six hundred  and fifty million fentanyl pills a year. from one small city yeah they're  cooking all over michoacan colima. juarez chihuahua they're cooking all over  them and i mean i could i could think that.

kulakan might be one of the biggest producing  cities that's only me thinking because that's. where the organization is based there's  only 352 million in the us yeah people. but addicts they they don't use just one pill  a day you know they use two three pills a day. and i mean like i'm i'm guessing there's  a lot of more pills stashed for years.

houses to keep flowing you know wow we're talking  about a certain problem that's huge man that's. huge that's that's huge [ __ ] contamination to  our whole country yeah i mean i think most people. think that a heroin addict is a bum on the street  heroin addicts are doctors lawyers yeah dentists. cops everybody everybody's hooked on this [ __  ] yeah you know it's it's you probably bump into.

50 of them a day you know they're they're working  my point is they're working professionals this is. killing everybody killing everybody man and it's  and it's i started yesterday before no the uh. on monday i talked to an organization that helps  addicts in tijuana and what they do is basically. they um they deliver um they deliver needles clean  needles to add it because they say like we're not.

gonna stop this so we're just gonna share some  clean needles so people stop getting um infected. by a lot of stuff you know and by doing that they  also did a research and they gathered old nils. from addicts and during seven months and from  all the needles they gathered in tijuana 70 to. 80 percent had traces of fentanyl we're talking  about and they don't even know they think they're. shooting heroin and we're talking about the drug  that stays in mexico that don't even make it.

across the border and they had to sell it because  most of the drugs that the mexican government. and sees all back in the street they sell it  back to two cartels um so imagine how many. heroin let alone fentanyl pills is is  getting into the us laced with fentanyl. wow i've been reading a lot about cocaine laced  with fentanyl weed laced with fentanyl i have.

found i haven't found no real evidence that  that is happening when i talk to labs cartels uh. organizations helping addicts addicts themselves  law enforcement i only get response uh positive. response from law enforcement in the u.s that they  found cocaine laced with fentanyl which doesn't. really make sense to me to be honest and doesn't  make sense to anyone but to law enforcement in. the u.s so i guess it's a way that we're trying to  scare people out of several drugs see if they can.

they escalate the consumption of of drugs that's  my thought that's my take but uh but what what i. have seen personally and learned from a lot  of contacts is heroin laced with fentanyl and. and in only one city in mexico seven to eighty  percent of the heroin was laced with fentanyl. so that's that's a huge problem man and just  today a source told me that there is a new thing. a thousand times more powerful than fentanyl  and it's hard to even find it in the news i.

had to call a doctor and i had to call a proper  chemist to learn about those stuff and it's called. uh i can't even remember the name but it's called  like nitezone or nitisona or something like that. i'll share that with you so we can keep an eye  on that because apparently that's a new wave. so so there's someone from heroin to  fentanyl to this and it's just stuff now that. it's just starting you know i mean it's horrible  that this is happening but i mean you have two.

different organizations both getting a win here  you have china who wants to weaken the united. states population which is happening at a record  pace and then you have them utilizing the cartels. and the cartels get the money yeah exactly so it's  two goals being achieved at one time definitely. man cartels are making tons of money i'm telling  you one of these appeals is um the production.

cost is uh 50 us cents and that's it that's it  and they're selling it for around four to five. dollars each bill wow so the margin of each peel  it's huge imagine three three billion pills a year. costing each peel five bucks that's a lot  of money so our needles become an obsolete. needles not necessarily because there's  a lot of people still using heroin and.

shooting up heroin with fentanyl even  if they don't know or they do know. because there are some addicts that they know  it's laced with fentanyl and they like it better. because it's stronger so they have to use less  um and and have like a longer uh hot or high. so but there's a lot of people that they don't  know and they keep shooting it and as if it was. regular heroin and they pass out and they [ __  ] die i mean this year alone i think the u.s had.

what over a hundred thousand of deadly overdoses a  lot more than that i'm unfamiliar with the numbers. but it's telling something about those other  numbers and imagine that i mean scaling the. whole whole [ __ ] population but at the same  time is getting a whole country addict addicted. to a substance they control yeah so if they  imagine what's gonna happen if they caught supply. a [ __ ] revolution is gonna pop up in the u.s  man there's a lot of people already hooked up on.

this stuff yeah so yeah it's it's crazy and it's  uh and it's dangerous and it's very profitable. for mexican criminal organizations uh which  i'm not calling them drug cartels anymore i. decided not to call them trucker tesla they  are like doing everything else but drugs. drugs is just one part of their funding  you know to keep funding themselves. would you say that's the top funding their main  source of revenue no i think i think their top.

funding uh will be uh getting around politics  setting up politicians and getting money from. corruption basically that's that's their main uh  funding right now how are they making money from. that because there's there's there there was a  time like maybe 10 years ago when there were still. drug organizations that they would get money from  a politician to l let them alone and let them work.

and you know like transit drugs through their city  or stuff like that so they pay the politicians. they used to pay politicians they used to you know  like bribe politicians basically so like okay i'm. gonna so that was uh that was not an income that  was an outcome you know that was like okay i'm. losing money to pay politicians still allow me to  keep making money now it's the other way around. now they have control the whole [ __ ] country and  now they're they're saying like we had elections. um i think last year or two years ago and we  had over 150 candidates killed during elections.

a hundred and [ __ ] 50 politicians killed in a  single election period wow that was only because. cartels wanted to set up their own people and  that was a show of force like if you're not. stepping out i'm gonna i'm gonna leave you out of  the equation by killing you and setting up my own. people so now they're setting up their own people  their own majors their own governors their own.

triple police so they don't have to pay them  anymore so they're like okay you don't like it. i'm gonna [ __ ] kill you now what i'm gonna do is  i'm gonna set you up as a governor of this state. and we're gonna do business both of us you're  gonna give me all contracts for construction. for road work for building um government buildings  all the contracts of imports exports all of the. government contracts are going to give them to me  i'm going to handle that and that's making them.

[ __ ] tons of money because they're getting all  government contracts wow who's going to fight that. i wonder if the united states is going to follow  suit with that and i just did an interview about. all these all these politicians that are being  paid off by china yeah i wonder if that's what. comes next i don't know man i don't know but  it's it's uh it's a it's getting out of hand. it's i mean we're we're on their hands right  now do you think it's reversible i don't think. it's reversible to be honest i will i would love  to say yes but there's no [ __ ] how how would.

you make these backwards you know how how do you  de-escalate the power of these people and not only. violent power the corruption power the power they  have in politics they have the power they have in. into economies you know mexican economy has a lot  to do with cartels um the mexican president keeps. keeps praising the um the money coming from  um remittances from the u.s it's like okay we. have hard-working men in the u.s sending  out remittances to mexico and guess what.

guess where does that reminiscence end up in  the hands of human smugglers because that's not. remittances that's money to pay so people can get  their family out of the country and into the us. they have to pay smugglers which is again  cartel so it is in coincidence that the higher. number of remittance remittances this year has to  do with the higher number of immigration flux you.

know in coin trying to get into the u.s they  they moved exactly the same it's like okay we. have more people coming trying to come to the us  and we have more remittances and when you cross. those two numbers they only make sense wow that's  that's insane man that's every every single every. single thing it's related to cartel to to criminal  organization which is there are no longer fertile. this is so sophisticated yeah they're becoming  very very very very sophisticated it's fascinating.

when people ask me like why do you do what you do  why why do you embed with those guys why do you go. and talk to them what do you risk your life going  to them i'm not i'm not stupid i mean i get i get. scared as well i get i mean i'm up it's not like  I'm not i don't get scared and i want to go with. them and help you know i get [ __ ] scared it's  it's scary to be around them because you never. know what's gonna happen you know but um but  but it's fascinating to me to talk to those guys.

how they how they switch strategy how  they think how they understand a world. that i'm trying to understand you know because  i come from a good family from from a good. neighborhood i come from from good places and  i'm like okay this is how the economy works you. know yeah according to what i read according to  what i interpret the world but those guys have a. different completely different interpretation of  everything of the world they see of the economics.

very basic you know at some level very very  basic but at the same time very sophisticated. man i i got it like the only. i don't know how this ends  i think how it ends just. off the top of my head is. i think one cartel would have to dominate the  entire country and when that happens maybe maybe.

there will be maybe it will become more peaceful i  don't know you know because there won't be so many. so much fighting in between the different cartels  and and it's one unit running the entire operation. yeah i don't see any other way i don't see it  reversing it's not reversing i mean this is not. a drug cartel operations now this is we're  talking about a hybrid insurgency criminal.

movement it's a it's a hybrid  between mafia as we know mafia in. in italy or europe like that kind of mafia and  insurgency the people from carl jalisco growing. they went from cartel as as you're reading  the manual of an insurgency movement. they went from small organization to earning  social bases to getting funding to trying to. destabilize government they're trying to  digitimize that's that's the quirk board.

digitimized government illegitimized illegitimized  government trying to step in and now teaching. um official tactics to their people you know  um back then was like just get a [ __ ] ak and. let's start shooting now they have uniforms  military uniforms with cartilage on here. cjng they're driving armor uh vehicles they have  training camps they they they they're following.

the [ __ ] insurgency manual wow that's that's so  so it's no longer truck or tails that's insurgency. and the tactics that mexico is doing against  them it's counterinsurgency all the way trying. to split them you know trying to get him inside  fights so they fragment into smaller cartels and. then they can go in and break them out um trying  to earn the trust of social bases as well trying.

to infiltrate rumors like recently it's happening  with the cartage they recently had rumors about. and mentor being that the leader of carter  jalisco the most powerful uh criminal boss alive. in mexico right now um saying that he was dead  and he was all over the news elementary is that. i was like who sayso who said i mentioned that  and i started watching because i mean these war. is also being fought over in social media  it's not only in the streets so i follow a.

bunch of accounts in twitter and instagram  facebook that is propaganda for the carter. do you have any of those do you know any of those  off the top of your head yeah i mean the names are. kind of like difficult because they have like you  know pedro zeros yeah a lot of a lot of numbers. but i'll share some some with you and you can  have a look at it and and they are propaganda 100. propaganda yeah um and they were the ones pushing  the version that i mentioned that and i'm like.

so you're telling everybody your boss is that  that how does that work doesn't really make. sense you will be the one saying no it's he's not  that he's alive and the castle is alive so i felt. that was a strategy and of course that was a  strategy to destabilize um government to make. them think that a target was dead but he wasn't  that was uh yeah that was misinformation campaign.

put up by carter jalisco online these guys are  smart they're learning from somewhere wow they're. learning from somewhere now they hide i ieds you  know like [ __ ] landmines all over michoacan the. mexican government had to send a troop to to find  landmines and they found in a single territory. single uh ranch over 200. like a cachet of them  or they were already planted they already planted.

they killed a farmer walking with the sun around  his farm and one of the bombs went off man so. i mean this is this cannot be longer called drug  cartels right drucker tells where caro quintero. you know what we see in narcos mexico the last  season of narcos mexico that was drug cartel. those guys were just trying to make money  out of you know shipping trucks into the us. these guys are after the control of the  whole country they're experimenting with um.

cocaine coca plantations in southern mexico  to lead the colonials out of the equation. so they're like if we get together on coca  plantations then we own the whole [ __ ] business. wow they they they're huge man they're  huge and and it's getting out of hand. and i think the only way i see this sort of  reversible if if mexico actually declares. that this is a [ __ ] war you know that we have a  violence issue a violence hybrid problem or issue.

in mexico this has got it this is flooding  into the u.s and canada as well i mean i think. when people think of these organizations they  think they have borders there are no borders no. borders there are no borders not at all man  like i mean how many peels how many cocaine. how many heroin is going through no borders  area you know like the desert no none of it. none of it even even the the infrastructure of  the entire cartel i mean it has no borders i mean.

it's essentially a business powerhouse i mean  google has no borders toyota has no borders. there are no borders man and you know cartel  has no borders everybody in the world is getting. addicted to these pills and you know it's crazy  because if you follow my account on instagram. i'm posting everything in english because i  write in english i write for u.s publications. um and i post everything in english and i follow a  bunch of accounts from people from carter jalisco.

from mayo zambada you know from criminal  organizations and you will be amazed at how. many of those people speak perfect english i i  was like what they keep writing me in english. and sending me voice notes in english and i'm  like how do you how do you know english i mean. aren't you like from carter jalisco down in  michoacan and he's like no no no no man i'm. i'm in dallas i'm funding those guys i'm part of  the club but i'm i'm set up in dallas this is this. is my this is what i was born i have family  in mitra khan or other guy like no i'm i'm in.

some other place you know wow they speak  perfect english they're fun they're funding. the [ __ ] cartels from here they go back and  fight go back have an operation get back to the us. that's that's what they do and of course i'm not  i'm not calling names for obvious reasons because. these people is trusting me with that information  you know with stuff and some of them of course are. pushing an agenda because i get a lot of messages  of people pushing an agenda on their own groups.

but i also get a lot of people not pushing  any agenda and just straight up saying. there is no way to end this so i'm joining i'm  [ __ ] joined there's no [ __ ] way there's a. lot on the train or get run over i mean yeah  and the most common thought amongst them is. like if i can do it someone else is going to do  it so why not make a buck out of it that's that's. most common way of thinking i mean i don't know  i don't agree with it but i definitely understand. that that definitely yes definitely that's exactly  how i feel it's like i'm not i'm not gonna agree.

on that because if you stop doing it and everybody  will think like that you get defunded cartel's got. the funding yeah but um but i guess that's a  way of brainwashing themselves into working. with a [ __ ] violent organization yeah well  let's move into the training camp yeah that was. that was pretty interesting as well i mean it  was only a night how did you get invited there. uh the thing i asked i asked my contact i mean  usually what i do is before i travel there i.

ask him for what i'm looking to achieve while  there and he's like okay so that was not that. was not in the plan the the training camp  was not in the plan the training camp came. only after i bumped into another journalists in in  and apparently they've been scammed like someone. told them that they were gonna be able to go to  a training camp and do this and that and then. nothing happened um so they they we knew we met  each other and was like okay i'm a journalist too.

and i'm a producer and this and that and then we  went off uh i offered them like okay yeah i mean. yes for sure let's let's give it a try of course  i charge my regular fee as a producer for them. and i was like yeah i'm gonna charge i'll  charge you this if you have this amount of money. and um then let's go let's let's try and do it i'm  gonna call my contacts can't promise you anything. so i had a meeting in my in my hotel room with my  with my source he always um even if he trusts me.

he always uh scanned me with a thing to make sure  that i don't have cameras microphones all that. [ __ ] no um and and i had a i had a microphone  in me from the production but it was a lavalier it. was not hidden you know it was and so the this guy  was still like started scanning me and he's like. baby babe and then i'm like no no it's it's not  a hidden microphone that get me wrong it's from. the production because i'm being interviewed  and all that stuff so i was like all right. and i told him that these guys wanted in to a  training camp and it was like yeah let me call the.

chavallone the youngsters and see if they're  willing to to take us there are they taking. cameras and i'm like yeah it's like nah just cell  phones and i'm like undoable man these guys are. a full tv group so we need a big camera inside  and he's like okay let's let's give it a try. and we went there we went to to the training  camp which was basically just a ranch in the. outskirts of guliyakan with a bunch of people uh  wearing tactical um suits you know like military.

and a guy giving instructions the instructions  were basically how to properly grab an ak how. to shoot it because they switched something which  i don't know you might know they switch something. out of the aks to making what they call rafagos  which it's uh making making them i know fully. automatic fully automatic i guess yes because it's  a seer exactly yeah they they do that at an armory.

um so they're teaching them how to how  to use a different sort of or a fixed. ak-47 wow so he was just giving  instructions you know like. the count of three you you guys have to shoot  at the same target or different targets so we'll. count those threes and you will hear later  bunch of them they were like seven or eight. seven or eight seven or right kids like  20 20 something years old you know what. they were training for uh they were going to be  deployed into sakatecas i think it was like a tech.

dual angle i can't remember they're having a  huge fight okay in that territory so that we're. gonna be deployed there to go and fight against  another uh group which it was actually against. um and there were like the new trainees i guess um  so yeah we saw that we saw them shooting how long. is the training camp did you ask no i didn't ask  but they only allowed me to be there for two hours. okay and they had a bunch of other older  people driving armored vehicles around.

that area just like surveilling and doing all  that stuff just footage of this stuff i have. footage only all day of the shooting range okay  shooting um and it's not great footage because. it was way in the dark and we only had the  lights from the pickup trucks uh pointing at. them so i can actually film something so the thing  didn't go really well um in terms of what the tv.

production was expecting to see because they were  expecting to see a proper you know u.s military. training camp you know yeah they were asking if  we could do that by sunset because sunset light is. better for tv and where were there ropes that were  like you know the word like that so i mean yeah. hollywood yes they wanted to make everything look  like hollywood-like stuff you know and um so so so.

so i mean this is what you guys do for  real right okay let's just make it all fake. yeah it's like yeah exactly so man that  was that was something and so these um. these part of the tv group made a comment and  she said something like you're supposed to be. the most powerful organization in the world and  i'm not seeing that so my contact kind of was like. what are you talking about this is what it is and  then we left and then i was i was getting ready to.

go out dinner in my room and my contact called  me so like hey man are you with this with this. person and i'm like well that person is in in  the room but it's not here with me in my room. and it's like can you both guys come downstairs  and talk to me because i need i need to tell you. something and i'm like there's no way i just let  it go i know you're angry about what this person. said but just be cool man and he's like do you  think i need that money because i i shared some.

money some of my money with him just because  it was cool that was out of the plan and you. know i was like you know what [ __ ] it you can  have a grand you know just just go and have fun. with with your guys or paid some of your guys for  the for the time or whatever i was just trying to. be cool with him you know in good terms uh and and  he was like you do you think i need a [ __ ] grand. and they start like counting packs of hundreds you  know 10 20 30 count of 40 40 grand i have 40 grand.

40 grand with me right now so let that people that  person know that i don't need the [ __ ] money and. to come and pick it up please and if she wants  and if she wants to show to to see or power force. um just uh peek out the window and i i went out  the window of the balcony and there was like 10. pickup trucks full of armed people around in  the parking lot of their hotel and i'm talking.

it's it's a nice hotel it's not any like sketchy  motel whatever in in in a nice at the nicest area. called rios and i was like holy man you you really  need to de-escalate this just [ __ ] leave and. it's all good i mean we weren't meant to  disrespect you and it's like no i'm cool with you. man i'm cool with you but um you guys wanted to  see power well let them know that we're here and.

i'm like no you know what so uh so i called the  uh the production and said like this is happening. and they were like all scared and we're  like well what should i cut the embassy. the embassy what's the embassy gonna do put them  on hold maybe hold on uh well like should we call. the embassy yeah yeah yeah and i was like you know  what yeah we'll send somebody uh right over to. extract me from this you know whether we're gonna  sound like a chopper all the way from germany.

so so i was like um i'm gonna go downstairs and  try to talk to my guy and let's see what happens. and then this this this guy was like and what  should we do so we caught someone or she's like. just stay here and wait don't do anything [ __  ] stupid anymore you know just stay here i went. downstairs and of course i was scared because  that was the first time my contact was coming. hard you know she's usually very [ __ ] friendly  he's usually very service you know like he it's.

weird because it seems i mean he's a [ __ ] he's  one of the [ __ ] middle range bosses in kuliakan. but he's always very um like very uh accommodating  very accommodating yes he's like was it good did. it work was the shot good um is it useful for  you you know he's he's cool like that and he's. but now he's i that that was his dark side you  know it was being violent and aggressive and.

menacing and being a [ __ ] bully basically and i  went downstairs and he's like get in the car and. i went into his car and and i was like man just  just be cool about this i mean they meant not. disrespect you have to understand that never been  in mexico before especially covering this kind of. stuff um but he was he was he was hurt you know  he was like his ego was [ __ ] hurt so he was like. yeah but but those people are not my  [ __ ] boss who they think they are.

you know i can get them [ __ ] disappeared in  a [ __ ] second i don't take orders from them. but i was kind enough to to to let  them go into a training [ __ ] camp. so what are you talking about they don't  believe we're a [ __ ] huge organization. they think i'm [ __ ] they think i'm lying wow  and i was like no man no no not at all not at all. it went on for for a while for a good hour  um and yeah after afterwards it was like. you know what man [ __ ] them just let them know  that they're not longer welcome in sinaloa ever um.

anymore wow and i'm like all right are we cool and  he's like yeah we're cool man we're good i mean. it's not with you i know you understand this [ __  ] but not those guys do you think that contact's. going to accommodate you again in the future or uh  i hope so man i'm trying to go with i'm trying to. go uh on another stuff to mexicani with him with  the same organization and i reached out to him um. and he stopped answering for like three weeks  but he just recently came back to me okay and.

so with a different phone number and he was like  hey man sorry i was out doing some [ __ ] um so. i thought it was accurate me too so i was like  oh [ __ ] i lost a good contact there yeah but. enough apparently we're we're in good terms and  i'm trying to go into mexicali for another another. story wow but back to the training camp what  so it was all when you were there it was all. shooting oh shooting did you see the targets were  they accurate the the [ __ ] targets were like um.

dirt little you know uh mountains oh they weren't  they didn't have targets no look at targets i. guess i guess they don't i mean there are only  a few of them that that know how to properly. shoot like targets and have like tactics and  stuff like that their commanders what they call. commandantes um those are the guys no that had  like a have like a lot of knowledge on how to. dissemble and assemble guns and all that stuff but  um the rest of the guys uh sadly they're just uh.

what we call carne de canyon you know they're like  people who's gonna basically send off to die in. the front lines so it's it's it's so the training  seemed very basic it was here's a gun this is. how you manipulate it exactly and that's that's  and they will give them the yeah they will give. them the old aks the [ __ ] oldest and you know  more worn a case you've ever seen in your life. like [ __ ] falling apart and you know and i  was like dude i've seen you got some pretty good.

uh minis what they call the minis um  some good different kinds of weapons. why do you have these old aks and it's like these  are kids are going to die man i mean and if we get. captured by the other group they're gonna get our  guns we're not gonna i'm not gonna send these kids. out with some nice guns those [ __ ] guns are for  me and my people the people who's taking care of. wow that were like yeah so there's definitely  different levels of training yes and that was.

the the lowest the lowest yes it was basically for  kids that were going to be sent out to to die in. zacatecas do you know how many how many kids are  running through this training camp a week is it. yeah i guess it's a day worth of training and no  i think what they do is they train people by like. on the go like it depends if they gather enough  kids to to train they will have to go on training.

but if there's like a week or several days that  they don't recruit anyone they they will just. they won't have a training so they're not as as  organized like us you know like every tuesday we. have a training or whatever it's just like  uh he will get a call and say like hey man. i i got another 10 or 15 kids um he's telling me  they're they're trying to get more more kids more. people because they need more firepower because  carter jalisco apparently it's grown huge and.

they need to put up a fight with with with them so  i wonder why they're not if they have the ability. to train them to a higher standard i wonder why  they're not doing that because that would be i. mean when you say well i'm not going to give them  good guns because they're just going to die but. if you gave them better guns and a higher level  of training then they would be more effective. yeah that will be more effective but i don't  think they get they they grasp that they're. not at that they're not there yet yeah they think  about numbers i think about like you know we need.

more people even if they're not properly trained  um and some of the guys i spoke with were kind of. mad and disappointed that a lot of their guns  get uh stuck or or break during fight they're. like they're sending us with this [ __ ] and  my gun always like gets um stocked or jammed. jammed exactly and i'm like wow you should call  management so you can get better guns because.

but there's they're saying not to die and  the ones who the ones who are loyal to. to the cartel the ones who kill more people  the ones who um survive most fights those are. the ones uh promoted to commandants okay and  we're talking about so basically if you come. back alive you're probably getting promoted yeah  what is this what does this uh war zone look like.

uh how does the whole yeah what is if we were  to go i mean is it is it specific areas is it. yes they're trying to what i know is they're  trying to do like some tactics like ambush um. when i spoke to the people and we'll jump into  that maybe later with the people that was the. mayor zambada one of their their top sicarios  they're 24 year old kids and what they do is.

they get into that there's a group of the enemies  of carter calisto they usually don't go off their. government they just when it's government they  just react you know if the government starts. coming over then and shooting or trying  to capture or trying to burn their harvest. they will react but they usually don't go even  if they know where they are set up they won't go. after government they don't provoke if they don't  provoke that's that's one of the like the rules.

i've seen they follow and every single criminal  organization they usually follow those rules. but they when they know where the anime  cartel is let's say carter calisco. they they gather some intel and they say like you  know what they are in the outskirts of durango in. the sierra durango in the woods this is sort  of like their location we last saw the camp so. they can't be far from that area because we know  they're sleeping by by night i mean by day and. then moving by night so these tonight they shall  be around i don't know these range you know and.

so they sent a bunch of soldiers to surround  that mountain you know so that means they. they stay two or three weeks walking because they  walk and when when i'm telling you what they walk. maybe from one city to another through the sierra  through the woods walking sometimes you're seeing. atvs because they have like some houses of  people who in in and again in an insurgency.

group you have the aids you know that are not  properly organization they're not properly. they belong to the organization but they are aids  meaning an old man or a family that has a couple. of atb's and they ate these guys to let them  use the atvs or their house to stay there for. a couple of days um so they have aids in several  towns you know so sometimes they'll travel through.

atvs or by horses and sometimes they'll just keep  walking until they are positioned and say like. okay this is sort of like the place we needed to  be because these guys should be around this area. and on the footage i've seen from one of these  soldiers gopros when they're around there when. they feel that they're around there they will just  wait and and try to see if they are actually there. when they see they're there most of the times  they first watch them because they position over.

the top hills but in some other times these other  cartel notices them first so so then a shootout. breaks and when it depends on a group that makes  it like if there are are outnumbered it will. just try to get away or they end up being all  killed and then they they gather some more guns. ammo money um i saw a [ __ ] gruesome  footage about uh carter khalid member.

uh getting like an um initial ritual like if  you want to belong to these forces and stuff. and he was eating i think it was a heart or a  lung i couldn't really tell because i i didn't. watch the whole [ __ ] clip but of of of a man  they killed of a man of a soldier they captured. and apparently that was a ritual they had to  to eat the organs of a recently deceased person.

yeah that's that's [ __ ] brutal to watch that  was like what the [ __ ] are they doing and yeah. he was like biting out of it out of the [ __ ] i  don't know if that's the heart of darth along um. most likely the heart the heart right will  make sense have you seen this other word. other yeah really what like is it like a wire  tactic then it's a thing that's been in around. a long time you know that's yeah that's  what i thought because i think they're using.

that and that might point out to where they're  getting trained for from or intel from you know. it's uh it demoralizes the enemy you know  yeah yeah that's what i'm trying to do because. another group when they captured i don't know  if i don't know if you actually watch uh vice. documentaries i mean they can they can be tricky  in some other parts of the world but when it comes. to latin america they're very [ __ ] accurate  and they're good so they did some some of my.

colleagues in vice world news they did this  embedding with the carte jalisco in michoacan. and they interviewed a comandante called m2 and  he was a high up commander for carter jalisco. a few weeks after that they killed  el medoz and they burned him alive. and so i guess that's what they  were doing like trying to demolarize.

the enemy by capturing first the commander second  unknown and public commander who gave an interview. to international news and third by burning him  so wow we're singing and sending out a message. so yeah that's that's basically how it looks  and and um there is this uh documentary called. cicada warfare if you uh look that in youtube  it's [ __ ] amazing and it's good access to to. how an operation of cicadas look like okay i know  i'll have to watch that no yeah it's pretty good.

pretty good very recent and um do you think  these cartels are going to keep one upping. yeah you know they ate the hard where does it  end was the next guy going to eat the brain. uh has that been happening do you think it's  happening and it's it's stuff that i don't know if. it's if it's too gruesome to even talk about that  [ __ ] but the most recent thing i i saw was they.

killed the woman i don't know if she was part of  the cartel whatever but apparently she was she was. pregnant she was like seven months old pregnant  they killed her got the baby out and killed the. kill the oh man i mean that's that's that's  that's just make my [ __ ] skin crawl it's. it's another [ __ ] level man it's another [  __ ] level and that's happening in a country. right next to this one yeah you know  and a country that is my country.

it's i can't [ __ ] understand that [ __ ] man  it's that was that was painful to watch that was. painful i didn't watch the whole [ __ ] book  yeah i didn't even i did i didn't even watch. a second out of it because i read the description  on what days they sent me and asked him like can. you stop sending me gruesome [ __ ] i'm not  really into that uh but thanks for letting me. know this is happening um and people however i  have a bunch of groups from telegram and signal.

from different organizations and stuff and  people keeps asking for those videos man. people just getting [ __ ] sick and yeah but i do  people are like that i don't know why they want. to see when guys come on here and they talk about  people they've killed or or and and and more you. get these weirdos that are like yeah they like  it can i see can you post that yeah yeah yeah. exactly right yeah yeah what they're like anyone  has the video of the pregnant woman i'm like.

why in the [ __ ] world do you want to watch that  man that that's gonna get into your brain yeah i. don't know but yeah i mean it's it's escalating  uh it's escalating the intel and the tactical. cartels are or criminal organizations are getting  and now there is a [ __ ] ridiculous um raise. between the mexican military and cartels it's  like a cold war in between the same country. you know because the cartel jalisco shows up with  ieds and then the mexican cartel shows up with i.

don't know big huge [ __ ] war tankets and then  the carter calisko shows up with these armored. vehicles level eight and then now the mexican  military shows up with a rocket launcher called. the uh camera the name but it's a it's an old  rocket launcher from the 50s you know this. yeah you know it's sophisticated and  smart as these cartels seem to be.

that it's all ego in the end right but that is  just pure ego if they really wanted to become. effective and scare the [ __ ] out of their enemy  they would utilize torture techniques because. if i killed you right now took your heart out  of your chest and ate it you wouldn't know the. difference or would you give a [ __ ] but if  i did things to you while you're still alive.

and left you alive and then the enemy came  and found you and they they saw that you've. experienced all of that pain and you're  still experiencing that pain yeah that's. that's a different level yeah are they doing that  i don't i don't think they're doing that i know. that they do that uh to people they want to get  info from but not really like a shower of force. i don't think they're still still using that that  that [ __ ] yeah not that i know at least um not.

that i've seen uh what i what i have seen is they  capture family members and that's how they break. sometimes enemies um this last sunday there was  a huge massacre in mitra khan during a funeral. in broad daylight there was a guy from cartel  jalisco carthage was breaking up from the inside. and that's that's a counter encounter insurgency  tactic put up by the mexican government. it's trying to break cartel  jalisco into small pieces you know.

and it's working it's working it's fragmenting  so now the cartage is a huge [ __ ] war inside. which we haven't seen before but that happened  to sinaloa cartel the most powerful became. several small factions and now the most powerful  is carter jalisco and it's becoming several small. small factions so they a guy from colima from  the carter jalisco nova generacion had a beef. with another jalisco nova galaxy member from  michoacan from way back because this guy.

killed his brother and then this guy got repentant  killed his brother and they now they both became. bosses on their own turf so the mother of the guy  from colima died recently from all 82 years old. and she had a funeral the family put out together  a funeral in michoacan so apparently this guy. called the higher bobs in the cartel jalisco and  said like hey man i need to go to my mom's funeral. i'm going in with just a few men but i need  your permission to go in without this other.

[ __ ] gang to me carter jalisco said yes  okay come over he did five minutes in the. funeral 20 [ __ ] pickup truck showed up with  this other guy they did a they had a standoff. they gather all the people putting a line all  the people in the funeral and they had a list. of names of of these guys people said like  okay so they took family members some of. them and they took his soldiers and then  someone shot a fire from inside the funeral.

and whole [ __ ] hell broke loose after killing 17  people they still had the time to clean everything. like they cleaned with with uh sweeps with water  they cleaned the whole [ __ ] bloodshed they even. tried to repair bullet holes from the of of the  wall and they took the bodies of the disease out. and that's only because there is an order  by the mexican government right now to lower. homicide rates and the government said we need  to lower the [ __ ] homicide rates no matter what.

no matter what translated into criminal  organizations on okay we're not going to. kill people we're going to disappear them so  now the number of people disappeared in mexico. is spiking up while numbers of homicides  are waving down wow and that was that was. impressive because there was like videos and clips  of these guys cleaning the blood piling the bodies. making us if nothing happened that the whole thing  lasted for five hours no authorities to be seen.

they have professional cleansers  cleaners yeah they brought like a. machine you can see like a like a like a car  wash machine you know splitting the streets. totally reliable update they have  now one damn let's take a quick break. hey guys let me tell you about this subscription  service that i've been working real hard on.

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all right so we're back from the break and uh  after that discussion about torture and what. they're doing i don't i don't know if i want to  go to lunch afterwards but maybe not but let's. move into something a little lighter so you you  partied yes i happened to to spend my birthday. in in culiacan and i was sitting at a restaurant  and i know um a couple of friends uh er elenfermo.

because he's a rapper in kuliakan but he's  the only [ __ ] rapper doing this thing he's. mixing regional mexican music you  know like banda or corrido with rap. and he's doing great man and he's and he's growing  and he's going up and if you guys want to listen. to him it's called alien vermont the sick  one because he's [ __ ] sick for real uh so. he called me he knew that i was going to be in  culiacan around that that time and he um hit me.

up while i was having dinner at a fancy restaurant  in interest and he was like hey man what are you. doing i'm like having a drink and having dinner  and it's like we're having a small catherine. and um my other friend eduardo the guy who was  one of the co-authors of cicada warfare's book. that i wanted to to bring down to you and i'm  gonna send you um i'm with with eduardo you wanna. come over and i'm like for sure it's actually my  birthday and i'm like oh man so yeah let's have.

a [ __ ] proper party for you and i'm like all  right they were very sketchy about where i was. going they were like a good just real quick  so you're going to party with a cartel boss. who's also a rapper no no that's not the rapper  like i i didn't know that i was going to meet. these two [ __ ] cartel bosses there so one of  them's a cartel boss and the other guy wrote the. entire tactics program for the cartel no this  this i so the guy who called me is a rap singer.

and the and he was with eduardo which is a  producer who wrote cicada warfare which was the. photo photo album uh of asicario and betting um  in in up in a in a in a in a fight you know like. okay following a fight these two guys gave this  guy a gopro to go and film everything and then. put everything together into a book and into  a documentary [ __ ] genius man they were like.

but i didn't know that they weren't going to be a  departing that the the party was going to happen. actually on that guy's house on on the head of  cicadas foreign who is the one with the gopro. and i didn't know that so i was just gonna meet  these two guys and and have a couple of beers. but they were like very sketchy about what i  was going it's like i started driving in this. on this location once you're close just give me a  call and i direct you and i took it like everyone.

is like that sort of like that in culia canyon you  have to be careful and i went to this really nice. residential area in in and they asked me to stop  on the other side of the sidewalk walk over got. into an elevator a beautiful apartment with [ __  ] you know uh mercedes vans and you know nice cars. and i went in and i see a table full of [  __ ] drugs arms and radio communications.

and i was like what the [ __ ] is happening  here and then the documentary and in the photo. album you can't see the faces of the cicadas  for obvious reasons so i i turn my head and i. see these two kids 20 20 year old kids early 20s  just sitting there you know making some lines and. just listening to narco corridos drinking and  then this guy introduces me like hey this is. our friend luis chaparro he's a journalist um and  em and this is el compa i can't say his name um.

and i'm like hey man crazy menu are you a company  in the documentary and they're like yeah that's me. i'm like holy [ __ ] [ __ ] and then there  was another guy who's like oh he's my. second-in-command another kid and i shook  hands with both of them kept drinking all. through the night i i went in with a with a six  pack of decaturs you know if i if i knew i was.

well maybe we'll show up with a proper bottle  of something you know whiskey or some tequila. or some [ __ ] like that but just arrived with a  [ __ ] sick so they got this and um it amazes me. how this guy's soul is completely gone from their  body you know they're we're all talking we're all. having fun we're all like sharing experiences i'm  of course very curious about the book and about. the documentary how was that made and i was like  well how was it and how many times did you film.

and these guys were completely out you know just  like smoking snoring smoking drinking snorting. all through the night you will we'll see a glimpse  of happiness whenever uh corridor about himself. will come up in youtube you know like esta me  gusta es est and but all through the night it. was just they were just absent you know they  weren't there they were like they're staring. at nowhere they're trying to escape their own  head yeah yeah really really quiet guys um and.

that was that was the whole night i didn't spend  a whole time there but like let's say from 8 p.m. to maybe 12 1 in the morning and i was drunk by  the time i left i was like feeling tipsy and and. i was like do you think i'm gonna get in problem  with the police if they got me driving drunk. and they're like if you have any issue just  call this guy he'll fix everything for you.

thank you i hope i don't have to  call you um so yeah we shook hands. um we hug each other when when that this guy  because we usually say hi like like every other. mexican even if you've never met him you say  hi with a hug you know you so i was like see. you man thank you very much for having me in  your place and that when he was like close to. me it was like just be very discreet you know you  know that right and i'm like no yeah i know and. i was like i know you know just i just wanted  to make sure just be discreet about this place.

and i'm like [ __ ] yeah yeah for sure my life by  all means and i left but those guys were or are. the uh right hand of elmer zambada and in a group  of fletchers it's called the group the sikai. it's like the elite cicada group for mayu  zambada um that was [ __ ] i mean i wasn't. expecting that you know it's incredible  how you find yourself in these situations. over and over you know i almost feel bad for  those guys like on one hand you know it's.

well you're in the cartel you're a piece of  [ __ ] you know and and but on the other hand. they don't have any options that's what that's  i think that's what people in the united states. don't understand i mean you know people in  the united states think you have a tough. when the government sends you a free check a  free place to live you get free food you get. free education everything's free free free free  and because you're not wealthy or because you.

you're getting only free stuff and you they [  __ ] and they complain but they have options. yeah i mean they have the option of keeping  their [ __ ] lives and yeah and being. these guys there's no check coming from the  government there's no free place to live. there's no free food there's no free education  there's no free medical there's no free anything. and that's what it it's unfathomable for most  americans who've never been outside of the us.

understand that and what these guys you know they  have they have no other option yeah but to join. the cartoon and to do that and imagine how will be  i i will i would like to maybe make an exercise of. like the people watching this channel and thing  ask them to think about them being in a country. that doesn't give you anything for free that it's  impoverished by the most part but that also lives.

next to a rich country you know to a first world  country yeah so it's like you are you live in a. small village house right next to this mansion  where the kids have everything and you leave uh. looking through your window to that house and want  it to be that you want to be that you want to have. the cars you want to have the checks you want to  have the freeways you want to have what they have.

in this first world house many of us people like  me who have the opportunity to be dual citizens we. can go back and forth back and forth all the time  when i when i like to live in juarez or in mexico. i lived three years in mexico city but then i  went back to el paso then i have the benefit of. both you know i have the the benefit of both  my my friends also a friend of mine has just. uh made this trucking company in the us  because he said dual suite citizenship.

and he writes me every often and and says  dude i owe my [ __ ] life to my parents that. brought me into the us because i'm a mexican  and here i can thrive and i can work hard. and i can drive my own [ __ ] truck and have a  trucking company and i'm so [ __ ] happy about. this that i'm not being forced to live  in mexico because i have no other option. my other friend has a furniture company and he  says exactly the same like i owe my [ __ ] life to.

my parents that brought me here because otherwise  i will be stuck in mexico and there is no. [ __ ] way you can do uh uh successful um you know  furniture company in mexico without having to do. or to be extorted or to be kept if you're being  kidnapped or even to thrive no and but these kids. they live in poverty they live in the outskirts  of kulik and these guys are not even from the city. these guys are from the ranches around  the city but still they are exposed.

to to the life the u.s portrays outside you know  so they want that they're [ __ ] jealous of that. they want the mercedes-benz yeah they want  the house because you can tell the house is. it's almost like an american house you know  very [ __ ] american house it's a like the the. faucets are all american the fridge very [ __  ] american tv it's amazing you know how i mean. we were talking last night about  that i just did a trip down to mexico.

at calderon and we went into a migrant camp and  you know and i'm very i've been all over the world. i've seen the poorest countries in the  world and and i was i was still very. extremely tough on immigration or my viewpoints  were and i still am somewhat you know but. but when you go down there and you go into that  migrant camp it shifts it shifts your perspective. because you're in it you're in there and you're  seeing what's going on and when i was telling.

you about you know i we pulled two hondurans  out that made the trip up to tijuana to that. migrant camp and i'm talking to this guy and he  is i asked him what he's doing and he said um. i asked him how it came up as i asked him would  you rather stay here under a tarp on a parking lot. or go back home because he had been there for  i believe three years if i remember correctly.

and he said i would rather stay here no matter  what he's like i have a business here i said well. what's your business and he pulled out a little  portable battery charger and he said i go around. and i charge people's phones for a dollar dollar  man a dollar which is probably doing really good. until you know especially compared to where  he came obviously he would rather stay there. and sleep on a parking lot under a tarp than  to do that and then when you think about.

americans you know that we can't even get  anybody to work right now and i would trade. so many americans for that guy sitting right  there because you know he's going to come in. into this country and he's going to contribute  to society and work his ass off to get what he.

you know you know where i'm going  this country has the great blessing of. helping thrive hard-working people all you have  to do in this country is work all you have to do. is get [ __ ] worried and you thrive  and have your heart on it and that's it. but that's not enough in my country you  know that's not enough in my country. you can't work your ass off in my country you can  put all your heart into whatever you want to do.

you might and that's not going to be enough and  no matter what you're going to have never going. to [ __ ] thrive never man it takes more than that  it takes luck it takes corruption it takes doing. things the wrong way because the taxes we [ __  ] pay for everything it's crazy that the amount. of money that government takes out of you the uh  vulnerability you are to your own government or to. criminal organizations or to the mix of both you  know you can be well off working having you're. pretty alive and then you get kidnapped and get  into you get um i don't know extorted or then you.

get a bunch of military outside your home saying  that you did something and you never and you spent. 20 [ __ ] years in jail just because they thought  you were something else talking about journalism. in mexico i wrote for 10 or 12 years before  actually starting writing in english to us outlets. in my career thrived somehow to some level in  mexico i got to the top magazines in mexico did.

the top stories um being interviewed in tv all the  time but uh who was having my back no one man like. no one the government won't have your back once  she had started hit the fan against journalists. um and i was getting paid shitty which i was fine  because i still live with my parents you know one. of the best neighborhoods in syracuse you know  i [ __ ] dreamed residential with a five-story.

house with a basement and a huge [ __ ] garage and  they were paying for my two cars and i was living. fine so i didn't really need the money to to  keep leaving out of journalism all i had to do. was to thrive because that's what i wanted to do  but then when i married had my son actually got. out my my parents house i was like oh [ __ ] i  need to work for myself and this is not enough.

i mean the the best wage that i got the best  like when i was reached it was um 30 grand 150. 1500 grand a month you can [ __ ] live with  that even in juarez you know it's it's not i. was living by myself okay fine it's it's enough  to to rent an apartment never to own a house. to pay for my gasoline and this and that but then  i had to do something you know i had to and i had.

to switch lanes or to or or decide to close my  career forever and then go to to do something. else because i was not gonna be able to support  my family with that [ __ ] wage you know yeah um. and i decided to make the crossover and start  writing for english for english spoken uh or. written magazines and outlets and start producing  more for us companies like netflix and amazon and. hbo and doing documentaries for showtime and  that kind of stuff and my [ __ ] career started.

thriving a lot started thriving like crazy when  when i did the crossover and i learned that all. it takes in this country to to thrive was to [  __ ] work to get to work to get your [ __ ] ass. to work and do it properly and you'll be fine you  know you'll do fine and and i was like wow just. just switching languages just switching a border  which is basically a line an imaginary line.

everything changes everything switches off but but  a lot of the people in mexico honduras guatemala. salvador they don't have that possibility they do  not have that opportunity you know they want to. that's what they are trying to get here you know  they're trying to get here to work most of them. and i know i've met some of them that are not you  know hard working people they're [ __ ] thieves. um they're [ __ ] bad thieves basically i've  met a bunch of [ __ ] thieves that they just.

been deported like three or four  times and they're trying again. and they're saying the us is my  country and i love that country but. once they step foot in in the u.s and  start drinking and robbing people and. doing shitty stuff yeah that's definitely those  are the people a tricky i mean it's a tricky. subject to. it's it's gonna it's it's tricky to solve  because you can't take everybody yeah you know.

you just can't but the i mean but the system's  broken you know it is broken there is no whenever. you're setting up walls in the middle of the  desert but leaving your parts of entry vulnerable. to fentanyl pills that's got to be something  wrong yeah you know well what do you got coming up. well i'm uh i'm i'm trying to travel to  michoacan i'm looking up for traveling.

to michoacan to learn about the drones  operations the weaponized thrones are using. it's a hard time right now because there's a rumor  around all organizations in michoacan that there's. gonna be a journalist who's gonna be an infiltrate  not by the us government of the mexican government. but by the other cartel they think that both  cartels fighting each other they feel that. there was gonna be a journalist who is from  the other cartel and just want to try and. you know uh get some info or some intel and then  sell it to the other cartel some [ __ ] like that.

that was the last time i i heard over  from michoacan so i'm on standby see. if the rumor goes away or something like  that and then i'm able to go and embed with. with one of these organizations uh i'm very [ __  ] interested into that yeah into that that part of. the world it'd be interesting to learn about their  intelligence gathering yeah definitely you know. how they do it yeah how they i mean because i'm  sure they're running all kinds of intelligence and.

espionage you know on each other especially  online and especially online they're using. a lot of technology man they they have their  hands on technology on like these drones i mean. i've seen footage not taken by regular commercial  drones but actually these drones just tell you. attitude and that can be like super way [ __ ]  up and like a huge zoom um and of course it's. i they've shared that information with me because  it's propaganda and i've never shut it out because.

i'm gonna be helping who the [ __ ] knows who but  um but what they wanted to say is like look here. is a convoy of mexican military selling weapons  to a cartel i don't know if they're selling. or they're giving away weapons supporting this  cartel and yeah in the footage you definitely see. national guard or military pickup trucks unloading  a bunch of what it looks like boxes with arms a.

couple of pickup trucks with our man civilians  loading all that into their trucks and taking off. and um you could say it was like an arms  trafficking operation but uh and it will be. interesting to put it out you know to me as a  journalist like this is happening but because of. the source that came up to me with that i was like  i can't confirm anything you know coming from this. source because they want to push on an agenda so i  guess that's their whole apparatus of information.

gathering stuff i know they they see my videos i  know they watch what i post i know they they're. following me because they want to learn about  other organizations and all that stuff um. i guess i guess it's something that uh that i have  to be careful with you know yeah what am i sharing. and what am i withholding they're killing more and  more journalists down there from what i understand. in the whole 2020 they killed seven journalists  uh during the whole year which was a lot uh and.

in the first two months of this year there's  been seven so we're over the first two months. two months there's been seven journalists killed  two from tijuana another from oaxaca uh michoacan. if you remember the other place but uh but it's  been seven already the whole number for 2020. i'm from 2021 so that's that's a lot  they're killing a lot of journalists. and i believe it's part of these tactics to to  illegitimize the government because people is.

not going after criminals the regular people is  not saying [ __ ] carter jalisco [ __ ] cartilage. they're [ __ ] us up they're saying [ __ ]  government they're doing nothing to protect us. to protect our journalists yeah and i don't think  that's by coincidence i think that's by design. to to heed uh to hit journalists to hit doctors  to hit uh nice people and you know well people.

so i think that's by design it's interesting  that they they want journalism because they use. it as a pr platform which helps them with their  recruitment but on the same hand they're killing. journalists so it seems kind of counterproductive  yeah yeah but luke look at the journals they're. killing they're not killing journalists um uh on  national tv or international journalists you know.

they're killing journalists that are tying  names to certain murders and exactly and. correct especially local journalists okay  local journals that they know they are not. protected by any international law or or whatever  that means any international outlet backup or but. they're not going to get hit for that because it's  way too different what's gonna happen if they kill. me or they kill the i don't know new  york times correspondent in mexico city.

the [ __ ] international community is gonna step  up to find those [ __ ] and the whole attention is. gonna go for that criminal group but if they kill  a local journalist who's gonna yeah no who's gonna. he's gonna go after them yeah the people is going  to get mad at the government for not protecting. these journalists and that's what they want and  that's why they're hating these local journalists. and that's that's crazy but um but yeah i mean i'm  i'm working on that trying to stay safe trying to.

to keep uh putting up stories um trying to  find interesting stories but also trying to. find truth behind talking points in in  u.s media yeah it's it's been it's been. doing an awful job to be honest it's a joke  it's i can't i can't believe people even. i can't believe people even watch it i mean every  i guess not everybody knows but i think it's the.

i think it's the older generation yeah that still  believes that the traditional news networks are. telling the truth and and it's sad to see because  you know it's ruining the country it is man it is. and if you talk to and this this is important to  to tell it's not us journalists it's not producers.

behind the camera it's not media workers  it's the xx most of the executives they hold. the their decision makers but they don't  come from the news they come from business. they come from economics they come from all over  uh backgrounds but journalism so they don't care. they don't give a [ __ ] about journalism  what they give a [ __ ] about is about numbers. or about who's going to fund their channel  talking politicians talking other businessmen.

they they think they know what the audience want  to hear but it's not what the audience wanna hear. it's basically what's gonna make the audience  fight yeah they want the outrage they want a. [ __ ] outrage and we're we're playing that game  and people are falling right into it though yeah. and most of us media workers don't agree  with that man but that sometimes that's a. job yeah sometimes you get a win sometimes  you pitch a story that it's a well story. and well-angled story and telling the truth and  sometimes you get the win sometimes you're like.

this is a good [ __ ] story this is what i'm  talking about when it doesn't have to do with. the us especially when it's something which is  good for me because i cover the foreign desks. so when i'm talking about colombia i'm  talking about mexico i'm talking about that. they usually leave me alone they're usually  like all right yeah let's run that story. why not but if it's us related they will get  you know peaky and tricky they will get like no. that's not the proper angle let's let's go on this  side because the audience will feel that this is.

this and that and and they start manipulating  the whole [ __ ] thing and then the peace out. it's completely different from the [ __ ] pitch  well that's where i come in exactly and that's. where you come in and that's that's what i [ __ ]  love about your show i think there's more useful. information in in your channel than in any [ __ ]  tv station and and coming from a [ __ ] journalist. i do news and i and i produce for tv but this  is the real thing thank you this is this is.

where you find truth and this is that's that's  [ __ ] cool man that's what i'm trying to do. it's just amazing just tell it like it is and  that's great and that's because you're not tied. to anything to anything not yourself yeah that's  it man well we're talking about doing some stuff. together down the line maybe let's do that man  yes i mean i will i would love to because i was. telling you this yesterday i was telling you your  experience in fighting and you know going to other.

places could be very enlightening to know what  the [ __ ] is happening on the ground in mexico. and i would love um to have you going and  embedding to places like sinaloa chiapas. with the jerichitos and all those guerrillas  there's a new cartel in chiapas called the.

are indigenous basically made imagines. from the maya uh ancestry and they form their  own [ __ ] indigenous cartel to fight the mara. salvatrucha that is coming all over chiapas and  to fight the old or what is left from the setas. so that's that's an interesting place to go that's  an interesting thing to watch um maybe going to. to the chiapas border with guatemala and  you will find the hotels like right at the.

[ __ ] hotels a lot of romanians russians  a lot of people from those other countries. staying there doing i don't know what they the  last time i was there there was a huge group of. i think they were russian or something like that  staying at the hotel no one could tell me what. they're doing with the doing there i asked the  taxi driver i asked the front desk girl i asked.

the police no no everybody was like super sketched  out they were like because i thought they were. um there were greek i was like why is there like  greek people and everybody knew like no they're a. greek they're russian i'm like why are the persons  here oh no i don't know man i can't tell you but. they were you know all over the hotel smoking  cigarettes 24 hours outside making phone calls. drinking jumping into taxis going off getting  back making noise all through the night.

interesting so yeah i mean i will i would  love to um i love to to have you to have you. south of the border and go to juarez and go to  different different places i think that will be. that will be something that your audience will  will enjoy and and i personally will enjoy to. to bring you with me in one of these  um reporting that would be what do.

you think i think it's going to take a lot of  research and uh i never i never drop a location. before i go it's always after i'm already out  um so you know for obvious reasons yeah and. uh but i am down i do like your idea i  really like your idea of interviewing the. hitman yes i think um i think yeah i would like  to do that if i get enough support on patreon. yes you know please and we'll make it happen but  yeah let's push for that man because that will be.

that will be [ __ ] interesting to watch to uh  to watch you talking to to one of these hitmen. and so you i think what you can do is like you  can judge how much knowledge these people have. in the use of arms because us journalists can  know a lot of other things you know but maybe. not such a specific stuff and i guess now mexico  is all about specifics especially this time you. know you need to know what kind of training they  have how they're using their guns like this armor.

uh that i went into culiacan where they were  switching this thing that you know the name. of and i can't remember the name of the piece  they're switching it to make them full automatic. that's here i think that's what that's only  because it's i guess it's cheaper to buy not. say my semi-automatic guns and then just switch  them because that's the reason behind that but um. but that would be that would be interesting  to to watch so so yeah i mean it's going to.

take a lot of planning a lot of negotiating  as well because because of your background. of course um i'm not going to be able to to  lie to these people and to hide that part. of your background and so i'm gonna  have to negotiate a lot with them and. and test their trust as well you know yeah test  like how how trustworthy i am with them and oh. and then let's see it might not even happen you  might you might end up in them saying like no.

[ __ ] no man no no way i wouldn't blame him but  me either but um but it might end up happening and. and that would be that would be interesting  to to see to watch especially because uh i. don't think you're gonna be able to be um  carrying anything over there so that's gonna. be [ __ ] tense too yeah see that's gonna be [  __ ] tense it wouldn't be the first time but uh.

well i wanna wrap this up and uh i just wanna  thank you for coming man you always have like. the intelligence that you're bringing back  after these trips is just phenomenal you. can't get this stuff anywhere and um and so i  just want to thank you for coming back and and. and giving me and the audience your time and  and telling us what you found down there so. one more time where's the best place for people to  find you um i think in my instagram especially in. my instagram i post my link in bio and i have my  youtube channel have a sub stack account where i.

put a lot of detailed information that i all  the info that don't doesn't really make it. into a story into a news story because it's too  detailed i post it on my on my soft stack account. and um and that's where i share names locations  gatherings uh maps you know that kind of intel. for for someone um and thank you man thank you  it's always a [ __ ] pleasure man it's it's. really cool to be here and and my whole intention  in coming over is just to tell truth and to share.

truth because i see what you're doing on your  channel with other guests and i see they are. raw they're wrong information it's they're  sharing their the truth one last question. if you had three people doesn't have to be  three who would you recommend who would you. want to see on this channel definitely victor  avila we're we're talking about him he he got.

screwed by both u.s and mexico government okay  um he will it will be cool to to watch here. i think um a colleague of mine ian grillo he's  uh he's a uk journalist living in mexico and. covering arms trafficking specifically for  maybe 20 years he's very knowledgeable and. he's [ __ ] cool he's he's great and i guess  he's gonna love the show and maybe one of the uh.

one of the criminal assets living in the  u.s that will be that will be interesting. you interviewing directly one of those guys who  lives in the us i mean it's long shot yeah but uh. but that will be that would be well make the  connection we'll make it happen but we'll try to. all right luis thanks again man and  hey best of luck be safe down there. and uh i'm sure we'll see you again all  right man thank you very much cheers.