Josh Duhamel - Survival Skills, Off-Grid Living, AI Robots, Billionaires Building Bunkers | SRS #310

[music]. Joshua Hamill, welcome to the show, man. >> Thank you for having me, Sean. This is. uh it's a real pleasure to be out here. and see what you built. This is pretty. impressive, I got to say. >> Yeah. >> Like that beats a hell of a lot coming. from you. So, appreciate it. >> I got I got to level up, man. This is uh. I thought I had a cool place, but this. is this is by far and way better than. that that gun range. I'm definitely going to steal that idea. [laughter].

Maybe if we have some extra time, we can. go out there and. >> break it in. >> So, but uh let me give you an. introduction here real quick. >> Josh Duml, an acclaimed actor, director, and producer known for your roles in. Transformers, Safe Haven, Las Vegas, and. Netflix Ransom Canyon. You got your. start on All My Children, earning a. daytime Emmy early in your career. You're a North Dakota native who stayed. closely tied to your roots, spending.

more time there as you've stepped away. from the Hollywood lifestyle. You've. stepped into business as the founder of. Gatlin, focused on men's health and. performance. And I saw women's health, too. >> Men's and women's. Yeah. >> Most importantly, you're a Christian, a. father, and a husband. >> Welcome to the show. >> So, uh, couple things to crank out here. before we get going. One, everybody gets. a gift. >> Who wants to eat gummy bears?

>> Oh, nice. >> Probably don't go well with longevity. and men's health. But [laughter]. >> is is are these like are these like. funny gummy bears? >> No, man. It's just. >> regular gummy bears. Okay, good. >> Made in Michigan. >> Nice to know. Thank you for that. I got. you something, too. You want me to give. it to you now? >> Sure. I think you're going to like this. So, might as well just start with the gifts, right? So, this is a knife [gasps]. made by my friend Cody Adolfson. Little WH Little Wolf Iron Works out of. [clears throat].

Bismar, North Dakota. >> [ __ ]. >> Yeah. It's got this Damascus steel North. Dakota white tailed deer antler there. for the handle. If you look on the back, it's got a little. reading from the Bible. >> Iron sharpens iron and one man sharpens. another. Proverbs. Thank you. >> Yes, sir. Pretty cool, right? >> That's awesome. >> He's super talented, this guy. >> Anyway, I know you like knives. I. thought I'd get you one. >> Thank you. >> I got myself one, too, by the way. [laughter]. >> It's just an excuse to get myself a.

knife. Really? >> This is awesome. Thank you. >> Yeah, you're welcome. >> Appreciate it. [clears throat]. >> And then one other thing, we got a. Patreon account. It's a subscription. account. They're the reason I get to sit. with you here today. So, they get the. opportunity to ask every single guest a. question. Okay. >> Josh, you've lived in two different. Americas, Hollywood and North Dakota. >> Yep. >> What is one lie in each world believes. about what it takes to make a man. strong? And what did real life teach you.

instead? >> Oh my gosh. What is one lie that each of. those two worlds, Hollywood and and. North Dakota? >> Yeah. >> Let me start with North Dakota. I think. that uh one of the things that I think. my wife and I just talked about this. yesterday. cuz we have a little baby girl on the. way and she wrote she wrote in her book. to her she said stand tall. >> Don't be afraid to you know stand tall. and and and be exactly who you are. And. I think that one thing that. >> I had to overcome by coming from North.

Dakota because it's a very humble state. The people there very sort of salt to. the earth. Nobody wants to stand out. It's just kind of like a uh very uh. bluecollar. but common sensical place that you know. for me leaving there and trying to go. off to Hollywood and do things it was a. scary thing for me because I didn't feel. like I deserved it. And I think that's. one of the lies that I learned from. North Dakota was that you you do belong. You do belong.

uh wherever you dream to go. And I think. that's one of the things that I learned. from that. One of the things that held. me back for a long time really. >> Wow. >> Um, as far as one of the lies that I. learned from Hollywood, I would say that. you don't necessarily. have to play the game by the rules.

as long as you. show up, do your job, and are uh dependable and reliable to. the people who are making whatever. project you're a part of, you can believe what you want. You don't. have to believe what they tell you to. believe. >> Right on, man. >> Good stuff. Good stuff. So, I read that. uh you are kind of putting your acting. career, Hollywood career on the back. burner to concentrate on family, get.

back to your roots and slow down. >> I wouldn't say I'm putting it on the. back burner. I'm I'm doing, you know, I'm actually working more now than I. ever have in my life, which is great. >> Right on. [clears throat]. >> Honestly, it's like I'm very grateful. for that because this is a hard business. to get into and to stay relevant in. And. you know, I've been doing it enough for. 26 years. So, I would say that, you know, because I am. busier now than ever, it's also made me.

realize that I don't want to work this. much. I'd rather be home with my wife. and my kids and out on my, you know, compound. >> Yeah. >> Doing that stuff. So, I'm just trying to. be smarter, I think. I think I'm trying. not to take as many jobs. uh just trying. to you know work a little bit smarter. and and really working on this this. company Gatlin is something that I'm as. excited about as anything. I would. rather honestly be working on that than. anything else. >> really. >> I mean I I think this is an interesting.

conversation cuz I think about this all. the time. You know, we were kind of just. talking outside. I got uh two toddlers. now. Time is going. >> six and four. >> Four and two. >> Four and two. >> Four and two. >> Little. And uh time is just going by so. damn fast, you know, and and you look at. old photos and you're like, "Holy [ __ ]. man.". >> Yeah. >> It moves quick. >> Yeah. >> And you realize you're aging just as. fast. Oh, yeah. >> But you don't see that. >> That's the truth. I got a 12-year-old.

and to see how quickly he went from 2 to. 12. is like, you know, it just it just goes. by like that. And so, you know, you. know, the the idea that I get to do it. again with my little two-year-old and. then this little girl that's on the way, I think you make it makes you really. appreciate it that much more. So, you've. got a four and a 2-year-old. You'll see, dude, it just it flies by, you know? So, one thing I think I've learned, especially from Axel, my 12-year-old, is. that I got to stay as present and uh.

and there with them as much as I can. because you don't get those days back. >> Yeah. [sighs]. So, I mean, how are you going to do it? Because I think about, like I said, I. think about this. all the time. Ever since my son was. about two, cuz I I had uh, you know, the. first two years, I'm like, ah, they only. want mom. >> That's. >> it's just diapers and boobs and milk, you know? >> So, there's not much.

>> for dad. So, I I was I was I always. thought I will bury my head in my work. >> Mm. until I realize that I'm needed or. wanted. >> and uh or start showing interest, maybe. that's what I should say instead. And. around 2 years old is when that started. happening. >> Oh, yeah. >> And so I've been ever since two, I've. been kind of trying to. structure my business so that I can step. away.

>> and but continue but you know, spend a. lot more time at home. >> But it's hard. It's hard to remain. present at home with all this [ __ ] going. on. >> because you're probably similar to me or. I'm similar to you in some ways that. we're I mean I was born to like put my. head down and work. It's all I've ever. known is just to like grind my way to. whatever I'm trying to get to. Um. but. do you do you mostly live here? Do you. travel a lot?

>> I travel I mean I travel a decent amount. but I don't it's in and out. it's quick. trips to DC or if I'm interviewing. somebody overseas or something like. that. But I. >> I am uh also have decided to work. smarter. So I turn a lot of [ __ ] down. cuz it's just not worth my time to be. away from. >> Consider that a blessing though. The. fact that you get to stay You're mostly. here. >> Yeah. >> See, for me it's like nothing shoots in. LA anymore. So I have to go, you know, then going to BC, British Columbia to. work.

for a month and then I go to Malaysia. for 6 weeks and then I come back and. then I go to Winnipeg for another thing. So it's like that to me is what I need. to like I need to like do much less of. that because these kids I even if even. if they come and visit, >> it's still I'm on I'm on set all day and. I come home at night and I try to get. them up in the morning and put in bed at. night, but it's not enough. >> You know, they need me more than that. And so to be traveling so much is really. what kills me, you know, because I I'm. gone for a week and I come back and I. can see my two-year-old is like.

grown up, you know, just in that week, >> you know, and, you know, I'm missing a. lot of that stuff and I don't want to do. that. >> So, I just got to be smarter about how I. do it. Still got to make a living. still. got to, you know, maintain [sighs]. a lifestyle that is, uh, become pretty. expensive, [laughter]. but, you know, I don't need to do that. I don't need to work as much as I have. been, which is what I'm really focusing. on, too. Just being smarter about it. >> Yeah. You read something else that said, um, I think you did you live out of your.

car for a while? >> No. No, my dad did. >> Your dad did. my dad did for a short. while after uh after they got divorced. He hates when I tell this story, but. it's amazing because my dad is one of my. favorite people in the world. He's just. incredible dude. Um and had a really. rough time coming out of, you know, the. divorce. You know, we're like, why does dad have. all this clothes like on a rack in the. back of his car? We found out that he.

was like living in there for a couple of. months. So, yeah, but I never had to do. that. Thank God. We did bounce around a. lot as a kid, you know. We we uh after. the divor It was a rough several. rough couple of years really after they. got I think it was in 84 they got. divorced. I think that's right. And uh. you know we'd bounced from house. friend's house to friend's house and it. was just it was for us we didn't really. know much different but there was a. point I said why do we keep moving. around? What are we doing? And then we.

ended up getting this little box of a. house in Northeast Mina, North Dakota. Uh, and that was kind of when we started. to settle in. But it was a it was a. rough couple of rough couple of years. there. So, where I'm kind of going with this is. I mean obviously your financial. situation has drastically changed since. those days and um. I'm kind of, you know, I've built a. pretty decent business here and I didn't.

come from money. am not used to any of. this and and you know and like leaving. the SEAL teams, leaving contracting for. the CIA, you know, I was broke and. [clears throat] I built a really uh. awesome business here and now I'm not. broke. But. looking back, times were a hell of a lot. simpler back then. >> Yeah. So, what I want to ask you is did. did the money did the the new financial.

situation, I mean, did that make your. life more simple? Did Such a good. question, Sean. Uh, did it make it more. simple? No, I don't think it makes it. more simple. What I do think it does, it. buys you uh a little freedom. It buys. you the ability to They say money. doesn't bring happiness, but it sure. does bring freedom to do some things. that you want to. uh you know, you get. to kind of shape the world around you a. little bit more. You're not really at. the mercy of anything if you're if you. if you can if you're lucky enough to. afford it, but I don't think it.

necessarily makes you any happier. Um, you know, for me, it probably makes things a little bit. more complex, >> you know, because with money and power. and all these things, you you know, there's like Spider-Man, you know, comes. great responsibility. And you can. probably feel that just by what you've. grown. A lot of people are dependent on. you now to. >> answer whatever questions they have. throughout the day or how do what's the. next move and you know all sort of falls.

on you. But I I you know I pose this. question to you is how do you how do you. uh impart what you learned and you've. been through it dude. You've gone, you. know, all the way through the SEAL teams. and the contracting and all the things. that you built here because of something. inside of you that had this drive to go. build it, achieve it. How do you impart. that on your kids? Cuz that's one thing. that I, you know, you can't you can't. manufacture, you know, hardship, you.

know. >> Yeah. I don't know, man. I think about. this all the time. And um. my son and my daughter are wildly. different. I mean, it's kind of. interesting, you know, the second one. comes out and you're like, I've been. through this [ __ ] before. This will be. [ __ ] [laughter] easy. >> Then they've come and it's like, >> this isn't the same person at all. >> But um [clears throat]. >> but my daughter is. stubborn. She is going to be a [ __ ].

badass. Uh you she just will not stop. She's the younger one. >> Always the younger one. >> She's like me. My son is like very. loving, caring, >> always watching out for his sister. >> I don't know what his drive is yet. But. um anyways where I'm go I think about. like man I the same thing like I have. all this these things that I've learned. you know throughout life and how do I.

inject that into my kids you know this. major life lessons. >> I don't know man I think one thing I do. is uh. I'll create not create scenarios but I. always make them figure it out. So, this. kind of started um about a year ago, and. my wife is a little more pampering than. a lot more pampering than I am.

>> So, if he can't figure something out, he'll ask me, you know, to help him. And. I I will help him, but I will say, "No, you need to figure another way out of. this. There's always another way.". >> Yeah. >> So, what he was he was trying to climb. up this hill out of our creek. Yeah, >> he loves playing in the creek and. couldn't get up the damn hill. >> and he's like, "Help me, Dad." He wants. me to push him up and I'm like, "I'm not. going to push you up." I'm like, "You. have to find another way." No matter. what problem you're going to face in. life, >> there's always. >> an angle that you can take to accomplish.

what you want. >> Exactly. >> And so, you need to start looking. around, you know, and I'll point like, "Hey, look, the hill isn't as steep over. there. Maybe you should walk over. there,". >> you know, and and so that was the first. time it kind of clicked in my head. And. so that's with my son. That's what I do. now is I I force him to find other. avenues to get what's. >> great. >> What about you? >> That's great. Well, that's great. That's. great that you have this place to do. that. That's one of the reasons I love. my place out in the woods so much is. they got to figure things out. You know,

like I had to figure I didn't know how. to do anything [clears throat] when I. got out there. You know, I didn't know. how to fix anything. I would I'd never. owned a boat before. You know, all the. things that go into owning land. I mean, you're just constantly working. So, I'm at the point now, my son is 12 and. I'm still that stuff doesn't stop. Now, it's like, "Okay, dude, you're going to. be looking after this place someday. You. need to start watching how you want to. go. you want me to pull you on the on. the tube, go get it hooked up and ready. to go. And then when you're done, you. got to properly roll it up and put, you.

know, little things like that to start. instilling some uh ownership and some. responsibility and accountability for. it, I think, is I do the same thing. I. probably could have done a better job of. it with my 12-year-old. He's like your. your older one. Super sweet kid, very. thoughtful, very compassionate kid. uh. but doesn't have that. little 2-year-old. is a little badass. [laughter]. That one I got to watch out for. Um very.

strong willed, very much very much very. physical, much more physical than than. Axi, but they're just different kids. Both amazing, but just different. Uh, so. you know that's a you know just to be. able to start imparting whatever. whatever I know, whatever I've learned. onto them and just start giving them. responsibility to let them start. figuring [ __ ] out on their own because. you can't I'm not going to always be. here, you know? >> Yeah. Yeah.

There's a point where you realize you're. doing the same things you used to do, but your body just responds differently. Same workouts, same effort, same. discipline, but recovery takes longer. Energy isn't as steady, and you don't. bounce back the way you used to. And. once you notice that, you start asking. questions. Is it stress? Is it sleep? Is. it age? Is it hormones? That's when guys. start looking into testosterone. And. that space gets confusing fast. That's.

why I started taking Marsmen. What stood. out to me is that Marsmen is designed to. support healthy tea levels, energy, stamina, and recovery without forcing. hormones into your body. It's built. around helping your body use more of. what it's already producing. And since. taking it, I've noticed steadier energy, better recovery, and more drive. throughout the day. It's not like a. caffeine spike that just feels more. consistent. It's made in the USA, third-party tested, and has a 90-day.

money back guarantee. And that matters. because if you're going to put something. into your daily routine, you want to. know it's clean, tested, and backed by a. company that stands behind it. For a. limited time, our listeners get 50% off. for life, plus free shipping and three. free gifts at men go to Mars.com. That's. men go to Mars.com for 50% off for life. and three free gifts when you check out. After you purchase, they'll ask you.

where you heard about them. Please. support our show and tell them our show. sent you. At some point, every guy has had the. wallet that's way past its prime. It's. thick, beat up, over stuffed, full of. old receipts, cards you don't use, and. random stuff that should have been. thrown away years ago. and somehow your. dad probably has one exactly like that. That's why Ridge makes a perfect. Father's Day gift. I've been using Ridge. and what I like is how slim and clean it.

is. It holds up to 12 cards plus cash, but doesn't feel like you're carrying a. brick in your back pocket. And they're. made with premium materials like. aluminum, titanium, and carbon fiber, so. it actually feels durable. They've also. got over 50 colors and styles, including. new colorways like hot rod, lonewolf, and Thunderbird. And every Ridge wallet. has RFID blocking technology, a lifetime. warranty, and over a 100,000 five-star.

reviews. So whether you're upgrading. your own wallet or getting your dad. something he'll actually use every day, Ridge is an easy call. For a limited. time, Ridge is running their huge. Father's Day sale where you can get up. to 40% off their best gear. Just head to. ridge.com/srs. and don't miss out on one of their. biggest discounts all year. That's. ridge.com/srs. for up to 40% off. After you purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about. them. Please support our show and tell.

them we sent you. What is one. [snorts] what is a piece of advice you. have as being a for being a father. for your kids? Um, my advice for being a father is I think. it's just. try to the the number one thing that my.

that I learned from my dad is something. he didn't even know he was teaching me. is that he just the way he treated. people, the. the respect that he had for people. didn't matter what, you know, where they. were at socioeconomically, you of the. I'll never forget this story. He used to. a used car dealership and it was right. on Broadway in Miner, North Dakota. Next. door to that was this old guy named Art. And Art wasn't wasn't very well well off. at all. He owned a little shack on this.

road. Now it's all been demolished and. they built nicer, bigger buildings. there. But he this guy was one of the. last holdouts. He didn't want to sell. this little place. And I remember going. over to his house next door to my dad's. used car shop and I said, "He's poor, isn't he, Dad?" He goes, "He's not poor. He's rich because he's happy." What did. he say? He's rich. He's rich because uh. something about that he that he's happy. that he lives he lives a happy life, you. know. So, it wasn't it he wasn't, you.

know, placing this guy's value or what I. thought was value on what, you know, whether or not he made money. This is me. as a little kid not knowing [ __ ]. um teach me that these guys it doesn't. matter how much money you have as long. as you're living a you know a full and. happy life and this guy did and I think. that you know for me it's like it and I. guess my point in telling you this is. that I know my kids are watching me very. closely and how I treat people how I. handle my own business so the only.

advice I could give cuz I'm not I'm the. last person to tell people how to raise. a kid I'm still figuring it out myself. but they're watching you closely and the. example you set is what is the way. they'll go forward. Damn, that's weird. You at you I was just going to bring. that up and I lost it and uh so I asked. this question. You I was going to say. when we were talking about the knowledge. transfer to your kids at least really I. mean I think the best you just said it. I think the best thing you can do is. just be the example that you want your. kids to turn into.

>> Yeah. >> You know, and it sounds like your old. man did that to you. you're back in the. Midwest and [clears throat]. >> I I mean I just they are always watching. and and. >> you know I had a incident the other day. that I'm not proud of and we were at the. airport and um was taking we were going. on a little vacation and [laughter]. >> yeah we were we were at the check-in. counter and we got the bags and there. was some mishap it that wasn't our fault.

and I was like you are going to you are. going to make us miss our vacation. and in a very heated way. And then my. son looked at me and said the exact same. thing to the woman behind the counter. I. did a face like [ __ ] [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> I I was like, "That wasn't that wasn't. good.". >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, give. yourself a little grace, but it's true. Um I have a story some of that. Last. year I was taking my son to school and. we take the shortcut cuz we you know we.

live in. he goes to school about 40 minutes we. have to drive in the heavy traffic to. get there and it's just it's always just. a slog. So I take this shortcut where. you got to kind of jump in and there's. just line you know it's at a standstill. basically. So I was trying to get in and. this lady wouldn't let me in and I was. like and she just like literally cut me. off. I was like what the [ __ ] I'm like. what are you doing? >> [laughter]. >> And all of a sudden I hear, "Dad, I was. like, oh [ __ ] I forgot my kid was in.

the back seat." He couldn't believe it. I, you know, I, the poor kid is. mortified. I'm like, "Yeah, there's a. good example of, you know, your kids are. watching. Do I want him to behave like. that?" No. So, you know, I guess it. keeps me in check, too. >> Yep. Yep. So, how did you did you grow. up in the woods? >> So, I grew up outside of town in Minet, North Dakota, in this little area called. Robinwood. um. about 5 miles out of town. Uh and and.

yeah, we were out in the country and I'd. spent all day, especially in the summer, just out in the woods catching frogs, catching turtles, salamanders, fishing, riding our bikes wherever we could go. And uh that was kind of And then my. parents got divorced. We had had to move. into town. And that's when you know. uh that was that was sort of like the. next phase of my life. But my early days. from time I was probably a [gasps]. a baby all the way up through [sighs] uh.

fourth grade I was out in the country. So I think the part of the reason why I. have this place now is me sort of. reliving that you know that little Huck. Fin story that I lived as a kid. You. know I just love being out there. really. brings me back to being a kid and and. for me to now, you know, see my kids. experience this and watch them sort of. uh get to do the same things I did. growing up was part of the reason I did. it. >> Honestly, >> really?

>> Is that why you asked? >> I asked because I was just curious if. you move if you moved back there for. familiarity, you know, and and you. wanted your family to experience what. you had or if you were strictly there. for the zombie apocalypse. No, it was it. in [laughter] the in in the beginning it. was [sighs and gasps]. this I guess I bought this place 16 17. years ago and in the beginning it was uh. it was just because I just wanted to get. away. I just wanted something really. remote, really private. I was, you know,

not trying to escape Hollywood. I just. wanted something different that I could. get away to if I needed to. And then it. became something as as the world got a. little bit scarier. I was like, you know. what? This really glad I bought this. And in fact, I'm going to buy the. property next door, too. So then I had. 55 acres out there and I was like these. two little cabins and I really started. thinking more about like, okay, how. could I live out here so that if [ __ ]. hits the fan, I can just live out here.

without, you know, completely unplugged. So then I started taking steps to do. that, which was, you know, solar, which I never use. Uh, we ended up. bringing electricity in, but everything. runs off of propane, you know, and, you. know, if we could fish, I could hunt, I. could I could literally we got three. wells out there, so I got plenty of. water and enough food if I need it. And. then, you know, all the other stuff you. need, >> dude, I love prepping, so I want to hang. out on this topic as long as possible.

>> I could talk about it all day. >> All right, let's [laughter] Where did. Okay, where where did you start? So, you. start You got a small hunk cabin out in. the middle of the woods, right? So, so I. bought So, okay. So, I bought 12 acres, half a parcel, nothing on it from this old guy named uh. um Cody uh Craig Cody, Kot T. And uh then he passed away shortly after. that. And and he had a little hunting.

shack in the woods on the on the parcel. the half parcel next to where I where I. just bought. no electricity, no water, uh outhouse, you know, they had these. little copper wires running through. there. He would learn turn on these. these little lanterns, these little oil. lanterns. That's how we lived out there. Um, so I then I had a little structure for. the first time. So I had 26 acres and a. little cabin that I never said cuz it. was just so rat infested or mouse. infested. I was like, it's too much. I'd. leave there with a sore throat every. time I spend the night. I was like, I'm.

going to clean this place up before I. decide to like really start late staying. out here. Um, so we'd go out, we'd camp. a couple days and then we just start. fixing it up. And then the other. property next door that went up for. sale, another 26 acres with uh another. little cabin that had uh electricity but. no water. So we dug another well. So I. had a well and I brought electricity up. to the top one. Then I have this little. one on the water with uh electricity but. no built a well there. So now I have. these two little cabins, but they're. both little. Now they're we've we've.

redone them now and they're nice little. guest cabins, but um I still didn't have. and so during co we spent all of our. time out there. I mean we and and we had. to wash dishes in the lake, shower in. the lake. It was like it was like you. were legitimately rough like. homesteading for the first 10 years. >> But I loved it. >> That's awesome. >> Because I was constantly it was pickaxes. and [clears throat] it was shovels and. it was clearing little spaces. I. remember I found this little area down. by the water that was all sand, but it.

had all these dead logs and all the kind. of overgrown. I know. And I just knew. that if I could clear this off, we'd. have like this beautiful little beach. And sure enough, that became Axel Beach. My oldest son, I named it after him. And. that's where the kids just run wild now. It's all cleared up and it's beautiful. now. But it was, you know, a lot of just. And then I got a I got a tractor and I. got a skid steer and then it got to go, you know, we we started moving cuz then. you could pop stumps and rocks and clear. things much quicker.

But for the first 10 years, it was it. was it was literally like homesteading. And I loved it because I'd leave I'd. leave LA, I'd go out there and I'd spend. two weeks and just work. uh on whatever my little project was. And over the years now it's become like. a really cool little spot that we just, you know, my family loves it. My my. parents, my sisters, my wife's family, they all come out. We just like make the. most memories out there. It's amazing.

>> That's awesome, man. What uh I mean what. are you worried about when it comes what. got you into the prepping? What was the. what was the last straw? I think it's I. think it's uh you know my my I've always. had this I don't know recurring not. nightmare it's more of like a daymare. about uh. I read this book by Wesley RS uh called. Patriots. the uh a guide to surviving the coming.

collapse and it was based on the 2008 uh. um market crash and. things almost got sideways in Los. Angeles and all over the country. If you. remember the banks and everything was. were freezing and it was like a whole. thing. But then the government bailed. them out and they it sort of eased. everybody's stress. This book plays it. out as if it just kept going and there. are these certain cells around the. country that had a plan that if this if.

if if things went sideways, we get on. our walkies and we all sort of send a. message and we all go to our spot. And. it was in Idaho. And it was like this. camp where they would have, it was like. a little mini militia almost where they, you know, everybody had a had a certain. skill sets. Some were medical, some were. uh weaponry, some were construction, some were farming, um, communications, they all had they all contributed. And. if you didn't contribute, you were out. Um, so it was like this little mini sort.

of militia of people that came with a. certain set of skills that that helped. sort of fend off anybody that came. So. that was kind of the beginning of it for. me. I was like, I'm going to I need to. build something that if things do go. sideways, I got to have a plan to get to. Los Angeles and I got to have a plan to. get from Los Angeles to here and once. I'm here, we'll be able to figure it out. because I'll have what I need. So that. was kind of the beginning of it. And now. it's. >> What's your plan to get out of LA? I got a motorcycle now. I got kids. So, I don't know what I would do. I still.

got a I got I got a I got I got. [laughter] a I got a little dirt bike, but now I got a wife and I got three. kids. So, it's a the plan is shifting. It's it's it's in development still. But, uh you know, I had a whole thing. where, okay, if I have to, I'll get a. boat in the marina. I'll take that up. the coast and I'll have a truck in a. parking garage and all that. I go crazy. with this stuff. Damn, dude. >> Cuz you know, when when things lock down. in Los Angeles and anything will set. that off. I mean, you those freeways lock up and there's.

no getting out. >> So, I need a way like to get out of. there like through the hills, down to. the water, up and then then get out. >> Um, see, if I was a little bit tougher, Sean, I I could have been a Navy Seal, but I just don't I'm just not made of. the same stuff you are. [laughter]. The same mindset, just not the same. toughness. But, uh, that was kind of I. mean, I go I really go deep with it. I. really think about, okay, how how do we. do that? How do we get out of here? You. know, and that was that was the biggest. and it still is one of the biggest. things. If we're there and we get stuck,

how do we get out? >> Have you looked at dual citizenship? >> What do you mean? Like. >> are you that far down the rabbit hole. yet? >> You mean like Canada? >> Canada [clears throat]. lot of I mean the top five places I. think are Ireland. If you have Irish. roots, you can get it immediately. >> Uh Portugal, but you got to learn. Portuguese. >> Uh Italy was on there. Canada was on there. What else was on. there? Paraguay was on there.

>> Really? >> Yeah. Which was always I've always said. if I got to get the hell out of dodge, I'm going to Paraguay. >> Why? >> It's too far south for the cartels to be. running drugs up. There's no ocean, >> which means nobody wants to vacation. there. There's nothing there but farming. and [ __ ] cows. >> Really? >> Yep. And nobody knows about it. >> Yeah. So. >> that was always my spot. So when I when. I. >> So have you taken any measures to do. that or not? >> Not yet. I'm like in process. >> But do you think you'd have to leave the. country to do to do this? [snorts].

>> What are your fears? >> Just a piece of mind. I'm not I'm not. like an I'm not going to abandon the. [ __ ] country anyways and I'm going to. fight for it. But if you know but other. people have to fight for it, too. And if. nobody's fighting for it, >> then uh one guy fighting for it isn't. going to do a damn thing. >> I think there are plenty of people that. would fight for it, though. >> You think so? >> Oh god. Yeah. >> I don't know, man. Sometimes I think. it's all talk. >> I don't know. >> Which is why I'm looking at dual.

citizenship. [laughter]. >> I haven't gone that far down the rabbit. hole, but you know, I So, what So, what. are your fears about? I mean, >> I know we're we sound like crazy, you. know, >> tinfoil hatwearing. >> What do I, >> but I mean. >> I mean, >> I think AI robots could be a real thing. You think AI robots could be. >> I think I mean this AI thing is moving. so quickly that I don't know if we can. ever we got to get our we got to wrap. our arms around this thing or it's gonna. >> Well, it's interesting that all the. people building AI are also building.

bunkers like Mark Zuckerberg that put a. huge [ __ ] bunker in Hawaii. >> They know a lot more about it than we. >> I know that it's like. >> So speaking of AI, are you familiar with. Claude? >> Yes. >> Okay. [clears throat] So before you came. on, we had Claude, Anthropics AI, scrape. the entire internet on you and come up. with the most viral question that would. land with the audience. >> Okay, >> here's the context. [clears throat]. >> You spent a decade in Transformers,

films where the entire premise is robots. coming to kill humans. Then last month, you told Fox News, "You're now 72% ready. for the apocalypse at your off-grid. cabin." And you said in quotes, "I'm. less afraid of zombies and more afraid. of AI robots now. I don't know if we're. ever going to fully be able to to. protect ourselves from what's coming.". Meanwhile, you spent 15 years quietly. building a 26 acre compound 40 miles. from the nearest store. So, here's the.

question. >> Okay. >> Take us inside the compound. If somebody. if [clears throat] someone watching. right now wanted to start building their. own version of what you've got, what's. the gear, gadgets, survival kit, and. guns you'd let them buy? You'd tell them. to buy first? Well, first thing you need is water. Electricity and water. You need a pump. to pull the water out of the well. So, you need some sort of electricity, whether it's solar or something, you. know, whether it's gas powered or.

whatever. You need something to pull. You need water. That was the first thing I did. Um, I have guns. Hopefully I never need them for anything. other than hunting. >> What kind of guns? What would you. recommend somebody to get? >> I got uh some. nines. I've got uh shotguns. I've got. rifles. Things that are all legal and. registered. And you know, anybody.

watching, please uh know that. uh [laughter]. it's all on the up and up. But I do have. but that's one thing, you know, protection, learn how to fish, learn how. to hunt, uh. and have shelter. I mean, for me, I. built the shelters that I needed, but. it's not going to, you know, it's not. like it's [clears throat] a fortified, you know, >> military type anything. I'm going to I'm. actually really looking at I have this. old uh container this old shipping.

container that we bought during CO that. right now just oper just acts as a shed. for all my supplies where there's. plumbing or extra wood or just tools. things that that sort of overflow that. go in there. Eventually I want to bury. that put a put a you know and under. under a concrete a thick concrete sort. of you know a shed above that. So, you. walk inside the shed, you go down in. this thing. Then you have this whole um. this whole bunker that I don't I mean,

listen, man. If if they're coming, they're coming. I'm not sure if. anything's going to stop it. >> I just hope that we wrap our arms around. this thing and and have some sort of. guard rails so that they don't just. >> because the way it's it's moving at a. pace so fast right now that we can't. even grasp it. >> I know. >> I mean, I I was at this this event in. Can last year called Can Line. It's a. big branded uh branded marketing. convention. All the biggest brands go. and they talk the latest and greatest. Um and all they talked about was this AI.

and how. a year from the day it was, which is. probably 6 months ago now. A year from. that day, it's going to be 60 times more. powerful than it was one year earlier. [snorts]. >> 60 times. >> So you can imagine you take that 60. times and then it just keeps growing. exponentially. And I don't I mean I. can't wrap my head around that. I don't. know if anybody can. So, I just I just. hope that we, you know, smart minds sort of come together and. say, "Okay, hold on. Let's just slow. this thing down a little bit." If we. even can at this point, I don't know.

>> I don't think it's likely. I did I got. you one other gift, though. So, before. we get too far from the guns, >> I got a buddy at Sig Sour. >> Oh, god. >> And uh I told him you were coming on. He's a huge Transformers fan. This is. clearance safe, by the way. But, uh, so. that's the Sig Sau 365. macro [clears throat]. with a Sigour suppressor and Sig's new. optic line. Holds 17 rounds plus one in.

the pipe. >> Wait, you're giving me this? >> Yeah. You'll probably have to take that. uh to the cabin, though. I don't think. that's going to fly in LA. >> Oh my god, this is the coolest gift. ever. Thank you. >> Yeah, we'll break it in here after this. if we've got time. >> That is amazing, dude. Thank you so. much. What is it? A nine. >> a Yeah, it's a 9 mm. >> Wow. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Truly. Thank you so much. >> My pleasure, man. >> How do I get this back to Los Angeles? >> Uh, we'll talk offline about it.

>> Okay. [laughter]. >> How do I get this back to Fargo? >> Yeah, >> I'll register [clears throat] it in. Fargo. >> Um, yeah. So, >> that's amazing. Thanks. >> You're welcome. You're welcome. It'll. look good out there in the cabin. >> Yeah. But, uh, I would love to go. through this [ __ ] with you. One thing, you mind if I critique you a little bit? >> Yeah. >> All right. One thing. So, you're. learning, right? You're learning how to. do all this. >> Yep. >> You need books, >> not [ __ ]. >> downloaded programs, not [ __ ] on.

computers. You need textbooks. >> on how to survive. Okay. There's a. really good series. >> This isn't a plug, but whatever. It's. called Back to the Basics. Okay. And um. they have like a whole series hardback. and it teaches you everything from. [ __ ] gardening to how to build a. cabin to how to how to filter water, how. to wash your clothes, how to make soap. >> Wow. >> How to do all of it. >> So that way, you know, you don't have to. learn it all right now when the [ __ ]. hits the fan. >> because you never know. I mean, what if.

everything goes down, everything's dark, we don't have, you know, our phones or. computers to just, >> you know, look everything up. >> Yeah. So that's the reason just just to. have books. >> Yeah. You know, and then and then it. also it's just like a piece of it's not. a piece I mean you're going to use it. >> but. >> you don't have to stress about knowing. it all today because you have textbooks. >> back to the basics. >> It teaches you. >> okay. >> teach you how to raise chickens, how to. do everything. >> Wow, that's cool. >> Yeah, it's a great series. So that would.

be something I would invest in. >> Okay. >> You know, [clears throat] and cuz then. you can learn as you go. Seeds. >> Okay. Okay. >> You have seeds? >> I do. I just bought a bunch of seeds. I. just bought a ton of seeds. >> Good. >> Um cuz I'm we're building a food plot. That's one of our projects this year. We're doing a big pumpkin patch. >> The deer are probably going to eat most. of the pumpkins. But we're hoping in the. fall we can take the kids up and just do. a big pumpkin patch thing. >> And then I'm building I cleaned up the. whole perimeter of this. We live on this. peninsula and I'm cleaning up all the.

wood, all the old logs and stuff. And. I'm going to plant a million wild. flowers. It's not that those seeds are. going to do us any good, but you talking. about like what? Corn and what else? >> Anything. Corn, green beans, just lots. of vegetables, lots of fruit. >> Yep. >> You know, but uh and I just I just store. them in a bin and every time I go to. Tractor Supply or wherever, I'm just. >> buy a couple, throw them in there. >> And where where do you you plant them. all? >> No, I just stockpile. >> Oh, you stockpile it. Okay. And is there.

an expiration on those or no? >> I don't believe so. Most gear looks good until you actually. start using it. Then you find out pretty. quickly what holds up and what doesn't. That's why I keep coming back. to ROA. These aren't just lifestyle. sunglasses pretending to be performance. gear. I've worn mine training, on the. range, traveling, and outdoors for long. days. And they stay locked in place the.

entire time. They're incredibly. lightweight. The optics are razor sharp. with zero glare. And you honestly forget. you're even wearing them. But they still. look clean enough to wear anywhere. Not. overly tactical, just modern functional. design that works everyday. ROA was born. in Austin, Texas, and everything about. them reflects that performance first. mindset. And if you need prescription.

lenses, they offer both sunglasses and. eyeglasses options built to the same. standard. And whether you're outfitting. a law enforcement unit, a military team, or looking for corporate gifts that. don't suck, ROA offers wholesale. partnerships to make it happen. ROA. isn't just eyewear. It's confidence you. can wear every single day. They're the. real deal. Ready to upgrade your. eyewear? Check them out for yourself at. roka.com and use code SRS for 20% off.

sitewide at checkout. That's roka.com. and use code SRS. I'm excited to introduce to you the. newest member of my family. We call him. Stanley. We got Stanley this past. Christmas and pretty quickly my focus. became making sure he was safe while. still giving him the freedom to actually. be a dog. I went looking for the top. rated GPS fence, the number one, and.

that's how I found Spoton. Stanley wears. their Nova collar. With Spoton, I set up. a GPS fence for Stanley right on my. phone. No physical fence, no leash. I. just walk my property line or draw it on. the map and that's the boundary the. collar recognizes. I can create multiple. fences, save them, and adjust them. whenever I need to. So whether we're at. home or traveling, Stanley always knows.

where his boundaries are. Another thing. that stood out to me is these collars. are designed right here in the USA and. assembled in New Hampshire by a team. that's been working with high precision. GPS technology for years. And you can. tell a lot of attention went into making. this thing reliable. The Nova Collar. uses a dualband GPS system connected to. more than 150 satellites along with an. antenna that's over five times larger. than typical GPS fence collars that. keeps the boundary accurate even around.

trees, terrain, and changing conditions. Spot-on's True Location technology has. been independently tested and delivers. 99.3%. containment, which matters when you're. trusting something with your dog safety. It's incredibly durable, and on top of. that, I can check his location in real. time, send voice commands directly to. the collar, and track his activity. through the day. I use Spoton so Stanley.

gets the freedom to run and explore and. I get the peace of mind knowing he's. safe. Let your dog roam with Spot-On. Go. to spot-onfence.com/srs. and use code SRS for $50 off the Nova. Collar. That's spot-on.com/srs. and use code SRS for $50 off. >> Okay. Books seed. books, seeds, the.

water stuff. Do you have to have Well, you live on a that's on a lake, so. >> yeah, >> not too worried about that. >> No, we've got I mean, we've got three. wells up there which are really really. good water. Um, so that I think is good. enough. >> Nice. >> The lake itself is all springfed, so. it's a really It's one of the clearer. lakes in Minnesota, which is awesome. I. mean, I'm not going to drink it, but if. I had to boil it, I guess we could, right? Do you do you have a Do you know. what a a Berkeley water filter is? >> No. >> So, it's a gravity filter. So, you just.

And it's like putting a bucket on top of. a bucket. >> and it takes out like 99.9% of. >> Okay. >> everything. Super huge. >> Do you have that here? >> Uh I don't have it here, but I have one. at I have a couple at the house. >> Okay. [clears throat]. >> And um Yeah. So you could take literally. just about any water, dump it in there, and when it when it's done doing its. thing, it's. >> really. the summer. And where do you buy that? >> Oh, you could probably you can get them.

on Amazon. All over the place. >> Brookley water filter. Okay. >> Yeah. Another thing for you in LA. >> Uh I think. >> I'll I'll text you. Another thing for. your LA home when you're in LA is if. worried about water, you can get a. dehumidifier. and a solar inverter, which you can get. on Amazon for like 500 bucks. >> Okay. >> And you just plug in the de the. dehumidifier and it will just pull water.

right out of the air. >> Really? >> And it's filtered obviously. So, >> and how much water does that make? enough to. >> Yeah. >> Have you ever seen one? >> I don't think so. >> Yeah. You just run the dehumidifier. It. just pulls the humidity out of the air. and then there's a little tank inside. the dehumidifier. I mean, you can these. are like I don't know 100 bucks maybe at. Home Depot. >> And uh yeah, you just hook it up to your. solar inverter if you don't have power. and it's it's going to it's going to. pull water.

>> fast. >> Okay. >> So, >> and that's called the what again? >> That's a dehumidifier. >> Just a dehumidifier. No, there's no it's. not called anything else. Okay. All. right. >> A lot of people put them in their. basements. >> Okay. >> But. >> good to know. >> Yeah. What do you do for communications? What do you have for that? >> Are you planning on communicating? >> Yes. Well, I bought the I bought I got I. saw them on Instagram. Uh and they work. They're amazing. They're um they're. they're walkies. >> The satellite push to talk. >> Yes.

>> They do work. >> They work great. >> I was looking at just we just started. using them. I just got them working this. last time I was out there. >> Nice. They seem to work great and. apparently you can they work they. triangulate with different satellites. and you can use them across the country. Is that even real? >> I've never tried that but I know that. they work really well on our property. >> Right on, man. >> How about you? What do you have? Do you. use any kind of. >> I'm not uh set up with comms yet. >> Yeah. >> So, >> I'll send you what I have. They seem. pretty good. >> What about ammo?

>> Um I could use more. [laughter]. We call we couldn't we all but uh. [clears throat]. I have I have a fair amount but you know. >> Yeah. >> I think it's good to you know have. enough. [sighs]. >> What kind of guns do you have? >> Uh I got a 223. >> Nice. >> I got a. uh 21s Glock 21 SF. Glock 17. Uh,

what else? Shotguns mostly for hunting. Shotgun. bird bird guns. Uh, rifles, you know, for deer hunting. I got a crossbow out. there. >> You got a 22? >> I do have a 22. >> Nice. >> Yeah, >> that's the best one, man. >> She can take thousands of rounds with. you in a moment's notice because they're. so light. >> Yep. >> But, >> uh, what else do I got?

I got this. What is this? This is a Sig. Sour. >> It's a Sig 365. >> 365. I just got this one just recently. [laughter]. >> Right on. Right on. Is [clears throat]. your Is uh is the fam into the prepping? >> Uh she thinks I'm a little bit crazy, but she also appreciates it, you know, >> because at first and this, you know, bless her heart, my wife is amazing cuz. she grew up living that lake life. Her. family is very close to where mine is. So, she gets it. She loves being out. there and we've made it comfortable now.

for the longest time and she was with me. during COVID and the whole thing. So it. was like rough like. believe it or not girls don't like. having to go in an outhouse in the. middle of winter in Minnesota walk. outside in their snow boots to go to the. bathroom. It doesn't go over well. It's. not it's not like a you're not going to. attract a lot of women with a an. outhouse behind your thing. But she must. really love me. Uh but now it's much. more comfortable. you know, we built we. built everything's got a bathroom, we. got plumbing. It's like and and it's.

beautiful. And we got this beautiful. beach that we built. Um, so it's it's. it's it's not super posh, but it's. comfortable. You know, I don't ever want. it to feel too. >> luxurious. Luxurious. I like that it. still feels a little bit rugged. And we. still got to, you know, work to make and. we're 40 minutes from anything, so we. got to come prepared. >> Yeah. >> Um, and so that part of it I love. I. mean, every time I'm out there, it. becomes similar to what you're talking. about with the books, back to the. basics. It's like really just I forget.

about all the stuff that I'm when I'm in. Los Angeles, it's all about work, achieve, you know, create. But out. there, it's about survival. It's about. making sure that my family and everybody. who's coming to visit us has enough. water, enough food, enough heat. Um, that's really where my head goes. And. it's it's a really uh liberating. thing to not worry about the things that. you do, you know, in the real world and. just sort of focus on what is actually. important. >> I feel like your mind rejuvenates. >> Yeah. >> When you do stuff like that, get out of.

the out of the loop. >> How do you How do you stay present with. your kids in LA when you're when you're. in the mix, when you're working? >> Um, you know, I just show up is for. everything. if if I if I'm in town, I'm. there. I take him to school. I take him. to soccer practice and basketball. Go to. all the games. Uh help them with their. homework if they need it. Um. you know, teach them, you know, how to. shoot a jump shot. He's all into. basketball right now. So, he always.

wants to play me and learn and so I'm. always out there, you know, just. whatever I can, you know, because I. because I've learned. seeing him like we talked about as a. 2-year-old and now a 12year-old, like. these moments matter. And if I'm gone. for months at a time, I need to make. sure that I am with them and they know. that I'm with them 100% when I'm here. So they don't ever feel that. My biggest. fear is looking back going, you know, I, you know, I screwed my kids up because I. wasn't around enough. You know, it's one.

of my biggest fears. I do not want to do. that. I want to make sure that they know. that I am uh doing everything I can to, you know, be there for them as a dad. Does your. wife keep you on the level? >> Oh, yeah, she does. >> Oh, yeah. >> A deal. >> Maybe too much so. [laughter]. >> No, she's great. She truly is the best. thing that ever happened to me. She's. like. um she's a North Dakota girl, you know, very levelheaded, great mom,

loves my 12-year-old, who isn't even her. kid. Um, >> how'd you meet her? >> She organizes the place. She keeps. everything sort of running at the house. I met her in Los Angeles, believe it or. not. Uh she was living there. We'd. communicated through, you know, Instagram, believe it or not. And a. friend of ours like actually got us in. contact, actual contact cuz he knew her. and he knew that she was from North. Dakota. She knew that he knew that I was. from there. And he said, "You guys. should meet." And so, you know, we we.

talked back and forth. Never any, you. know, real. thoughts of a relationship because she's. younger than me. I didn't want to be. that guy. Well, it turns out I am that. guy. >> [laughter]. >> Uh cuz I met her. I brought her to my. house. I invited her over for this. barbecue and I was like, "Damn, this. she's beautiful. She's such a beautiful. girl." Um. and then we started dating after that. And you know, from there I kind of knew. that this is the kind of girl that I. want to be with. Um because I [clears throat] dated quite.

a bit after the divorce and I was like, "Oh, this is I don't. back out in the wild is not a good. thing. [laughter]. I lo I I I I I'd forgotten how to, you. know, you know, survive, you know, in the wild, you know. It's. like it's like it's like a monkey that. crows up in the zoo. You throw him out. in the woods or out in the jungle. to feed himself. [laughter]. >> Dad, >> how long have you been married?

>> Six years. >> Okay. So, yeah, four years. Is she an end of the worlder? >> End of the worlder. >> Yeah, she she she does she she think the. the apocalypse is not around the corner? >> Not really. You know, she does. She lets me, you know, she likes the fact that we're. I'm handling it, but she's not that. concerned about it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. How about yours? Your wife, is she. >> I would say it comes in waves. I mean,

uh pretty tuned in with what's going on. in the world just because of this. So. when I come home and uh after a rough. interview and come home and tell her all. about what I've learned for the day, then she's like, >> I'm glad we have three years of food. prepped in the basement, you know. But. um [clears throat]. >> but uh. >> to do that, too. >> Yeah, we've we've uh I mean, ever since. co, man, it's been I've always been. concerned, you know, just from my. previous life, but um.

>> it's just how I think. I always think. that the bottom's going to fall out at a. moment's notice. >> Yeah. >> And [clears throat] so I'm a big. contingency guy, but um. but uh yeah, she she's in on it. It goes. in waves, but sometimes she thinks I'm. crazy and then something will happen and. she'll be like, >> I think [ __ ]. >> Well, that's the thing is you it's kind. of our job is to, you know, have a plan. >> Protectors, you know. [clears throat]. >> So what did I mean? I want to go into a.

little more detail. It can't just be AI. robots. What do you think's going to. happen? What are your biggest concerns right. now? just feels as if the.

there's an instability. There's an there's a lack of respect for. law and order. and people are really divided and I. could see some sort of event where this. side I don't want to call it a civil war. but I mean that it it feels more and. more like you know I don't feel like. we're coming together. I feel like we're. getting further and further apart. So it. could turn into something like that. I'm. hoping to God it doesn't. hoping the.

cooler heads prevail and we we figure. out a way to find some common ground. because right now it just feels too. divided and people are too okay with. hating the other end. >> Yeah. >> You know, and there's a real hate. problem in this country. >> Yeah. >> And and it's like and I'm seeing. I'm seeing people uh behave in ways they. never would have behaved. And I see it I. mean I'm not going to give any examples. but well-known people. I'm like what the. hell happened to you, dude?

so blinded by your hate that you're just. behaving in a way that's just like not. you. And I see that all over. I have a I. have a Cyber Truck. Uh, and I bought this thing well before. any of this stuff was happen well before. any of the backlash against Elon was. happening. And driving down the street in Los. Angeles, I can't tell you how many. people like, "Fuck you. [ __ ] you. Are. you serious?". >> Like, that is just not okay behavior. Like, when is it okay to just do that? Like that's just blind hate, you know,

for something that has nothing to do I. mean I can't drive whatever car I want. to, you know, I can, you know, but but. to have like that kind of behavior to me. scares me because people are irrational. right now and I just want to make sure. that uh you know. I do what I can to keep the peace. >> Damn. >> And to protect my family if I need to. >> Wow. because it gets it's getting it. gets getting too like too okay with like. behaving in ways that weren't okay even. 10 years ago. It feels like it's.

becoming more and more of that. >> Do you see that in North Dakota? >> No. >> Not anywhere. >> Not even close. Um. >> Damn. We don't I don't see that around. here. >> No. >> Wow. >> Yeah. It's just completely irrational. behavior and it's because there's such. hatred uh for the other side that uh. people are just losing their minds a. little bit. >> I used to see it. >> Yeah. >> Here the farther we get from co the ease.

the the the it's easing up. But. I will say like with with everything. that's been going on, I did. [clears throat]. the vibe that I'm getting is that maybe. we are finding some common ground with. [ __ ] like the Epstein files and a lot of. the stuff that's going on in the world. It seems like a lot of people are like, >> "Yeah, >> this isn't going how we thought it was. going to go." And um I think I think. there is a growing base of the country.

that is just [ __ ] hating our. government, our politicians. >> Yeah. >> And. I think that's a good thing because it's. at least it's something to. >> Well, hopefully it'll it'll it'll you. know. create some accountability. >> Yeah. you know, because. without getting too much into it because. I don't like to I'm never going to. preach to people about how to believe or. what they should believe or shame them.

for what they do believe. But, you know, there's definitely got to be some. accountability because there's been some. heinous. uh. behavior that shouldn't just shouldn't. be okay. And like I said, I think it's. just like things that weren't okay even. 5 years ago are now seem to be somehow. brushed under the rug. It's like no. that's not okay. >> Yeah. >> You know, I just want to make sure that. we, you know, people are are. maintaining some clarity around like. what is like okay behavior and what's.

not. >> You think this could all be biblical? >> Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I haven't thought about it. like that. >> You haven't? >> No. >> You're a Christian, right? >> I am, but I guess I haven't made that. connection. What do you mean? Well, I mean, a lot of the things in the. Bible that say that that. a lot of things are happening that the. Bible says would happen. >> Oh gosh. >> Right [ __ ] now. [laughter].

>> And uh that's a whole another. conversation, but that's uh that's. that's kind of where I'm I've landed. >> Oh boy. >> Summer cooking is here. steaks, burgers, breakfast before a long day, or those. nights when one person stops by and. suddenly you're cooking for everybody. And everyone talks about the grill. But. your pans are still doing a lot of the. work. If they stick, burn, heat. unevenly, or make clean up a pain.

They're making cooking harder than it. needs to be. That's why I use Hexclad. You get the performance of stainless. steel, the convenience of non-stick in. one pan, a proper sear, great heat. control, and easy clean up. So you don't. have to choose between cooking well and. cleaning easy. Hexclad gives you both. And they're metal utensil safe, dishwasher safe, oven safe up to 900°, and backed by a lifetime warranty. So.

whether you're hosting all summer long. or just want to make everyday cooking. feel easier, this is the upgrade your. kitchen deserves. From May 22nd through. June 8th, shop Hexclad Summer Sale and. unlock free gifts worth up to $229. And if you're hearing this after the. sale ends, don't worry. We've still got. you. For a limited time, our listeners. can get 10% off using our exclusive. link. Just head to hexclad.com/srs.

to shop. After you purchase, please. support our show and let them know we. sent you.

I don't know like what do you mean like. expand on that? >> Well, I mean you want me to expand on. this? Well, I mean right now there are. three religions all going at it. Yeah. >> In the world right now and. that's supposed to happen. Um.

[clears throat]. there are public figures in the world. that mirror very closely to. predictions. I I don't know if they but. predict things that say that that that. that's going to happen in the world. >> And um it's it's. a lot of political [ __ ] that has gone on. in the country. says that's going to. happen. Um, like gender ideology [ __ ]. like this.

>> But, uh, it's and it seems to be. speeding up. >> Huh. >> Getting faster. Yeah. I don't see I don't see any uh. backing off from either side as far as. what. this is what this is why I I tend to not. get overly involved in this stuff. because what I've one thing that I've. learned from all this is that I'm not. changing anybody's mind. >> Mhm. >> People are people are dug in. >> Yep.

>> All you can do is just sort of, you. know, behave in a way that you think is. right. Um loving. uh not filled with hate. Part of the. reason I went back to the church, honestly, I needed something to rise. above this the noise because I found. myself starting to feel some of this. same hatred. >> against the people that I disagree with. And I was like, what am I doing? It was. I was losing sleep over it. I was I was. uh you know really really angry.

and uh started you know what am I doing? and I need to I need to get back and. reconnect. spiritually. And um so I found. I started dropped my son off. He goes to. a Catholic church Catholic school. I. would just drop him off and go sit in. church for 15 minutes just pray or just. meditate. Um find my location somewhere. I'll find a church whether it's Catholic. or Presbyterian or Lutheran. I don't. care. As long as God lives there, I'll.

go. Um, and I found that that's really sort of. helped me sort of make sense of some of. it and hopefully uh find some clarity in. it all because I just needed something. because I didn't want to be that woman. in the street flipping me off, you know, this with this hatred in her eyes. I. just like I'm not going to be that. person. I need to like figure out a way. to, you know, find God again. >> When did you start looking at that? I. mean, I've never really I mean, there I.

I go through phases where I'll be really. connected spiritually in in times that. I'm not. And uh I find that when I am. connected spiritually, I'm a much better. friend, father, husband, brother, uh just a better person all around. When. I'm connected spiritually, when I'm not, you know, I can get a little squirly, you know, I can I can start to lose. track of what's important, you know, and. this business can really take you down. some dark roads. >> Um And so I needed to stay.

And I think that's what the Catholic. religion did for me. It was really, you. know, even though I don't agree with a. lot of this stuff, I still find that it. really taught me right from wrong. Gave. me that backbone to be like, okay, this. is it. Whenever I'd whenever I'd, you. know, go wayward one way or the other, it always kind of brought me back. You. know, church, friends, family, you know, it's been, thank God I have a good group of. friends, really good family, and uh was. raised Catholic, was raised Christian.

Um, now I'm not as I don't the dogma of. it all doesn't mean as much to me. I. don't care so much about like what. religion says I have to do to what as. long as it feels like it's uh you know. about. >> Mhm. >> love, peace, harmony, things that uh keep my head clear of all. the noise. >> I grew up Catholic too. >> Yeah. Are you still Catholic? >> Yes, I think so. >> Yeah, me too. I but like you, I started.

kind of going around and I I wanted I. mean I fell out of it. I I I was raised. Catholic and then kind of fell out of it. in the SEAL teams and recently maybe the. last two three years kind of uh refound. Christ, you know, and um and so I. started going to all these. non-denominational churches. >> Yeah, me too. >> And uh I really like them. >> Yeah. And. and you know, I think I think I'll. probably get blasted for saying this,

but I think one thing that the Catholic. religion lacks on is uh the teachings of. Jesus. Cuz I don't growing up, I don't. know [ __ ] about the teachings of Jesus. or really who he was. And I realized. that when I was going to these. non-denominational churches, I was like, >> "These southern boys and girls over here. are like quoting scripture like. >> bam, bam, bam. I can't do any of that. >> Yeah, me neither. >> And so I really I started paying a lot. of attention because I wanted to learn. more about Christ and the life of Jesus.

and what it all means. >> instead of just the you know the typical. Catholic mass. [clears throat]. >> Yeah. And uh and then. I started reading a lot about spiritual. warfare and uh diabolic influence and. stuff like that and that. I don't think anybody in Christianity. matches the Catholic Church when it. comes to spiritual warfare. What it all. means, how it works. and um so. >> what do you mean by that?

>> Spiritual warfare. >> Yeah. And and how the no nobody can. match the Catholic religion. What does. that mean? Is that a good thing or a bad. thing? >> I I don't think it's a good thing or a. bad thing. I think that. >> like why is the Catholic religion better. at spiritual warfare than the rest of. them? >> Um I mean. >> what is spiritual war welfare? >> What is spiritual warfare? Spiritual. man, how do you describe I mean. basically spiritual warfare is you know. the good and evil and the battle for.

your soul or your mind. >> Okay, now I got you. For the world. I. would agree with that then because. that's what's kept me from really going. off the deep end. Really like taking. that dark road down whatever path it was. going to take. Spiritual warfare brought me back to, you know, whether you agree with the. Catholic, you know, dogma and all the. stuff around it. It does give you that. sense of right and wrong. >> It talks about I had this guy, Father. Riper, on and uh he's he's like the the. exorcist in North America.

>> Okay. and um he wrote this book called. Diabolic Influence, which I've been. picking up and and digging into since. I've interviewed him. And it talks about. everything from I mean I don't know if. you believe in possession and exorcisms. and all that kind of stuff but um it he. kind of talks about how. evil, demons, demonic influence kind of seeps into. your life and how it gets in.

>> and a lot of the ways it gets in is by. um. uh like really just really bad uh [ __ ]. that you're doing. >> Yeah. >> And um. >> so it's it's if you get into it, it's. pretty fascinating. >> I'm going to read that book. >> I'll send you the episode. >> Oh, I'll go if I can find that episode. >> You can't even buy the book. >> Oh, really? >> That's the thing. Yeah. >> Really? there. He's got a couple, but he.

wrote it for uh he wrote it for. basically he wrote it for the Vatican as. a guide, you know, to how this is how. it's happening. >> And it's Yeah, it's. it's it's it's fascinating, >> dude. >> Okay. >> The table. >> You have a copy of that? >> I got a copy. Well, I would be very interested in that. because yes, I do believe in that. I do. believe that there are, you know, dark. forces at play.

>> We do. >> And if you're not spiritually connected, you're really susceptible. And uh, you know, it's easy to become. susceptible. >> Oh, yeah. >> You know, if you're not vigilant about, you know, staying spiritually connected. >> Yeah. So, what got you into the longevity. stuff? Well, I was uh I was taking testosterone. replacement therapy for a few years.

before I ever started any of this and I. was keeping it a secret. I was doing. some of the peptides, but you know, never told anybody about it, but I was. seeing how much it was actually helping. me. And. uh my friend Fabian Calvo brought me. this idea to be part of this company. I. was like, "No, no, no. I can't tell. people what I'm, you know, that's my. dark little secret.". Uh, but then I started thinking about. that and I was like, of course I should. do this. This is something I I could. easily shine a light on that makes it. okay because it's helped me so much. I.

mean, it's truly testosterone. replacement has been huge for me. It's. brought my levels back. I was low, so, you know, I'm able to keep muscle on, able to, you know, do things that I. could do in my 30s that I'm now 53 and. can do. Um, and then we got into the. peptides, started learning more and more. about them and how much uh how much they. can actually help. And I think that that. was that was the reason why is because. it gave me a chance to sort of share. some of the stuff that I'd learned uh. even though I was keeping it quiet for.

so many years. >> What kind of peptides? >> I do uh I do uh tep um I'm sorry um. Tessa Morlin. I do the Wolverine stack, which is H uh HG uh H H H H H H H H H H. H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H. K KGCU, TV TB500 and uh KPV, which is. great for joints and skin and hair. recovery, uh cell regeneration. Um what else do I do? I do NAD and. Matsi. >> What does that do? >> Uh NAD is is like uh uh NAD and Matsi to.

help with the mitochondria. I'm not. going to probably I'm probably going to. butcher this a little bit. I'm learning. But it's really good about energy, skin, staying younglook, uh the mitochondria and and the energy. and stuff like that is is what it's uh. supposed to be. Do you do any of this. stuff? >> Yeah, I do TRT. I don't do peptides, but I'm getting. ready to. >> Yeah. >> And uh Yeah. And then the NAD stuff.

>> Yeah. It works, man. It really does. work, you know. And then there's the. HRT. We just started doing it for women. too, which is, you know, we we we we. started as just a a men's company. and then I had so many females in my. life saying, "Dude, you got to like we. need help, too." And I then I started. doing research on that. And there's the. HRT, which can literally. prolong the youth of women. It can it. can it can uh stem the the the the the.

effects of parameopause and menopause. and bring your levels of progesterone. and and estrogen back up to what they. were so women don't have to go through. the same things that they always have, you know, with with menopause. So all. this stuff is like. >> Wait, are you saying it like skips. menopause? >> Well, no. It just it just delays the. effects of it and and reduces like the. hot flashes and the. uh the I don't I'm not I I have never. gone through it cuz I'm not a female. But for what I've but what from what.

I've heard like if you can if you can. regulate your hormones that's part of. the reason why this menopause is such a. [ __ ] for women is because their their. their hormones have have fallen off. Like in men it's testosterone. women. it's as estrogen, progesterone and. testosterone as well. So you can really. sort of regulate that stuff with this. hormone therapy. And we have doc we have. a whole and what makes this company so. great is that we have a whole team of. doctors. So it's like a concierge.

service. So the FDA doesn't let you just. go out and click click click and have. the stuff [clears throat] sent to you. They want you to be guided by a. professional medical expert. uh somebody. with the you know the ability to. actually walk you through this and. create a plan. And so we have a whole. team of doctors. Um so we're I feel like. we're doing it the right way. We're. really able to help so many people. Um. and this stuff works. I mean it truly. works and so it's a really fun. It's. been really really fun actually for me.

learning more and more about it because. I have a real natural curiosity for. wellness and longevity and trying to. stay as as healthy as I can for as long. as I can. Not just for my work, but for. my kids. You know, I'm 53 years old and. I have a baby on the way. I need to be. as strong as I can for her as long as I. can. >> Congratulations on that. >> You going to have any more? [sighs]. >> Probably not. >> No. >> Yeah. >> How old are you? >> 43. >> Oh, you're still a young man.

>> I would love to, but I don't know if. it's going to happen. >> You got two beautiful ones. That's all. that matters. Yeah. >> So, [clears throat] yeah, that's uh. that's that's, you know, that's the main. reason is just because I wanted to be. able to build something and help. And for myself personally, selfishly, I. was trying to, you know, learn as much. as I could to, you know, stay in the. game for as long as I could. You know, I'm not going out without a fight, man. I'm going to stay as young and strong. and brittle for as long as I can.

>> Right on. Are you guys going to you guys. have any uh you venturing into anything. new? Are you going to stick with the. peptides NAD and DR? >> Well, I mean there yes right now there I. mean there's just so much there there's. stuff that coming up on the on the. horizon that's just like unbelievable. some of these things that are not. approved yet but they're about to be. Um, so for now, yes, hormone therapy for. men and women, testosterone for men, HRT. for women with whether it's estrogen,

progesterone, testosterone, and then all. these amazing peptides. Eventually, it. may be stem cells, >> nice, >> which is another thing that's going to. become incredibly beneficial. I mean, the science behind that is incredible, too. I mean, uh, I'm just like beginning. to learn about like how amazing that. stuff can be if done and and, you know, administered properly. >> Mhm. >> And, you know, thankfully with Dr. Lawrence and his team, we have just the.

best people in the world to help. >> Right on. Have you have you looked at. I'm just curious. Have you looked at. this uh plasma exchange stuff? >> I've heard a little bit about it. >> You know what I'm talking about. >> You talking about when they they spin. the blood in the PRP? >> No. Now they it's almost like blood. filtration. Have you seen any uh I don't. know how much time you spend on social. media. Have you seen it? But right now. like this trend there's all these people. they hold up these bags. >> I saw Rogan did that, didn't he? Didn't. Rogan have a big one or was it?

>> Yeah, that's plasma exchange. So. apparently it's like filtering all the. spiked proteins and all the [ __ ] out of. your blood. Really? um like maybe heavy. metals and stuff and the darker the bags. are the the more toxins that it's pulled. out. >> I would hate to see what mine looks. like. >> I know. Me too. [laughter] Me too. But. uh. >> might be like a greenish hue. >> We've never seen that color before. That's [ __ ] red. But uh yeah, I don't. know. That's something I've been looking. into uh to do. So, especially with all.

the exposure of all the [ __ ] up places. I've been throughout the world. Parasites is another one I want to look. into. >> Yeah, >> I've heard a lot about this stuff. I'm. just again I I don't I'm no expert in. any of this stuff. I'm just curious as. anybody else, but I do have a natural. sort of curiosity to learn more. And. parasites are one of them that my mother. was my mother's always kind of been on. the forefront of this stuff. She was. eating egg whites in the early ' 80s. We. were so embarrassed like, "Mom, [laughter]. you're asking me to take your egg yolk.".

like she's this girl she's been always. sort of and she just tell telling me. about parasites and how you need to get. checked for them and how you can get. them sort of expelled from your body. I. don't know. Is it a is it a fad? I don't. know. Feels like it could be real. >> Yeah. >> All the stuff we eat. >> Oh, I'm sure it's real. >> Yeah, >> I'm sure it's real. But Well, where do. people find the company? >> Who's it for? >> What's that? >> Is it for everyone or. >> It's for everybody. I mean, it's it's I.

mean, it we're finding in our data that. people are doing it younger and younger. as a preemptive uh sort of uh way to to. stay to to prevent, you know, some of. these effects of aging that happen. So, people in their 30s are starting to use. this stuff. But, you know, we're meant. for people my age, 40s, 50s, even 60s or. 70s. There's these are things that can. be really beneficial. um gatlin.com. will we'll set you up with uh one of our.

doctors who will put you through uh you. know a few of the steps that it takes to. get involved. This is you know this is a. big deal for people to get into and uh. it can be scary for people. So we want. them to be as comfortable as possible. Make sure they get their levels checked. Make sure you know where you're at. Just. in general you should know that anyway. I think just get your levels checked. you'll find that you're probably not uh. optimizing. as well as you could be. There's a lot. of peptides you could be using. Your.

hormones can be leveled up to where they. should be. Um so it's a it's a pretty. easy process. It's tele medicine, but. it's like tele medicine 2.0 because we. make it real simple. Everything's. delivered discreetly to your house, but. uh you'll also have somebody there to. help you. So you don't have some dude. from the gym who compounds out of the. backseat of his car. You know, stay away. stay away stay away from the research. and development stuff from China. I'm. telling you, >> all of our stuff is 100% compound in the.

USA, >> compounded in the USA with, you know, through our own 503barmacies and API. wholesalers and we just we know where. the stuff is coming from and it's all. like the best quality. >> Right on. And gatlin.com. >> Gatlin.com. Yeah. G- AL. Right on. Right. on. >> I got a hat for you, too, by the way. >> Oh, dude. Thank you. [laughter]. >> Nice. Thank you. >> Yes, sir. [sighs and gasps]. >> Well, I think we're wrapping up the.

interview, but I I just want to say that. uh man, you're like really grounded. person. Seems like. >> So are you, Sean, but I already knew. that about you. [laughter]. >> How so? >> I just, you know, people who know you. watching the show, >> how do you stay grounded? How do I stay grounded? >> Yeah, >> honestly, I've got a really, really. awesome group of friends. There's like. 20 of us that every day we're on a. thread. And if and if you didn't know we were.

best friends, you might think we're. worst enemies cuz there is no there is. no uh pulling any punches. These guys. are ruthless but also super loving. They. don't let me get, you know, any higher. than I need to be. Good. They love me. and they, you know, they got my back, but they're not, they don't treat me any. differently. And I think that's been a. big part of it. Great family, amazing. wife. Um, you know, North Dakota's been good. >> Good for you, man. You got some good. people around you, you know. It's good.

to hear. Well, thanks for coming. My. >> man, thank you so much for having me. [music]. >> [music]. >> No matter where you're watching the. Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get. anything out of this at all, anything, please like, comment, and subscribe. And. most importantly, share this everywhere.

you possibly can. And if you're feeling. extra generous, head to Apple Podcast. and Spotify and leave us a.